England v India, 4th ODI, Edgbaston

Rahane hundred caps crushing win

The Report by Alan Gardner

September 2, 2014

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India 212 for 1 (Rahane 106, Dhawan 97*) beat England 206 (Moeen 67, Shami 3-28, Bhuvneshwar 2-14) by nine wickets
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

Highlights: Rahane century caps thumping nine-wicket win for India

As India marched to one of their most comprehensive victories against England, a third no-contest in as many matches giving them the series, about the only similarity between the teams was the blue of their shirts. India, the reigning world champions in this format, will need little introduction as one of the favourites for the 2015 World Cup in six months' time. England are struggling to find an XI to compete at home, let along challenge in Australia and New Zealand.

MS Dhoni has captained with an easy panache since the return to limited-overs cricket and he again marshalled an impressive display after inserting England on a fresh morning in Birmingham. This was Dhoni's 91st victory as India ODI captain, breaking the record of Mohammad Azharuddin. Only one batsman had him momentarily ruffled, as Moeen Ali produced the first England half-century of the series, but it was a bit like a fart competing with thunder, to borrow Graham Gooch's phrase.

Having been set a modest target, India's batsmen set about exposing it as indecent. Ajinkya Rahane made his maiden ODI hundred during a stand of 183 with Shikhar Dhawan, a record opening partnership for India in England. Dhawan's unbeaten 97 was his first fifty of the tour, a flurry of blows helping to end the contest with almost 20 overs remaining.

Although the pitch flattened out, England's attack was made to look horribly blunt. India's openers tip-toed through the first four overs, scoring the same number of runs, before Rahane struck four sumptuous fours off James Anderson; Dhawan rattled three more from Chris Woakes' first over, taking them to 57 from ten. It was a clear case of the fours being with India.

And the sixes, too, both openers reaching their half-centuries by clearing the ropes. They hit four apiece, the most dismissive a front-foot pull from Rahane off Steven Finn. The sight of England's fastest bowler being treated so disdainfully by India's most diminutive batsman was one of a number of instructive passages. The video analysis will make painful viewing for Alastair Cook and Peter Moores.

If England were to take anything from their display, it would have been Moeen's batting. Moeen was brought in for his fifth ODI to fill the allrounder slot, with England keen for a more thorough examination of his credentials as a limited-overs spinner ahead of the World Cup. He proceeded to bat with greater dash and security than any of his team-mates during an innings of 67 off 50 balls.

After Joe Root departed attempting a reverse sweep that might have made Mike Gatting wince to leave England five down, Moeen struck the ball with a languid intensity, hitting three sixes - the only sixes of the innings. Such was his dominance, albeit brief in the context of the match, that Moeen clouted 43 out of a 50-run stand with Jos Buttler, nominally England's power hitter. His efforts lifted England to the bare respectability of 200 but the target scarcely gave much opportunity for his bowling to impress.

It was debatable whether India had found a new way to win or England a new way to lose. This time, the glissando of wickets came at the top and bottom of the innings, as England ended the Powerplay on 25 for 3 and then lost 4 for 12 in the final five overs. In between, India's spinners largely remained a lurking threat, although the way R Ashwin, Ravindra Jadeja and Suresh Raina threw a blanket over the middle overs was proof that England had not suddenly discovered their pipe and slippers when it came to playing slow bowling.

Root has struggled to transfer his puckish energy into one-day cricket this summer but he at least did a job in repelling India's early broadside during an 80-run stand with Eoin Morgan. The pair managed to see off ten overs of spin before Morgan, having narrowly flicked wide of leg slip, picked out Suresh Raina in that position for a simple catch to give Jadeja his 32nd wicket against England - a tally he would increase to 33 in 17 ODIs.

England's approach tends to revolve around the proverbial best-laid plans but things went awry even before the toss, as they were forced to bring in Gary Ballance for Ian Bell, who was hit on the toe in the nets. Bell was later revealed to have a "small fracture" and will be assessed before the final ODI, at Headingley on Friday. That enforced change was the third from the XI at Trent Bridge, with Moeen and Harry Gurney also coming in for Ben Stokes and James Tredwell.

India, meanwhile, included the debutant Dhawal Kulkarni, who kissed the ball before his first delivery in international cricket, only to see it treated rather more roughly by Alex Hales spanking a half-volley for four. That was about as encouraging as it got, as England stumbled, bleary-eyed in the Birmingham sunshine.

India's fielders were certainly in the wide awake club, Raina and Rahane setting a fine example as Cook managed just a single from his first 15 balls, repeatedly thwarted trying to hit through the off side. After opening partnerships of 54 and 82, England this time lost Cook and Hales in the fifth over, as Bhuvneshwar Kumar located the moisture in the pitch that his captain had spied at the toss. In the previous two matches, this had been the one area where India had allowed England some respite.

The breakthrough did not require any outstanding India out-cricket, however, as Bhuvneshwar snaked his first ball to Hales past the inside edge and on to the stumps. It was a femme fatale of a delivery, curving back in seductively and leaving Hales dumbstruck as he looked for his favoured cover drive. Bhuvneshwar had already bowled 12 deliveries at Cook without conceding a run and he gilded his figures further by picking up the England captain, Raina intercepting a thick-edged chop at gully to end another laboured stay at the crease.

After Dhoni's travails in the Tests, both as captain and wicketkeeper, the extent of his comfort in limited-overs cricket was displayed by an instinctive, near run-out of Root, deflecting the ball with one glove down on to stumps behind him. Such was the hold he currently exerts over England, he could get away without asking Bhuvneshwar (8-3-14-2) to bowl a second spell. The batsmen then ran amok in approved style. It was fitting that such an assured display confirmed him as India's most successful ODI captain.

Alan Gardner is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. @alanroderick

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Posted by Balancer on (September 4, 2014, 8:22 GMT)

I think it is about time India renounced their test playing status and focused on one dayers and T20s. These games are less straining for the cricketers and attracts better crowds and are enjoyable to watch. Cricketers get to make LOT's of money too .... which perhaps explains their good form in this format of game. As of today, I think there are only three proper TEST playing nations in the world, Australia, South Africa and England. New Zealand might come close but I doubt they can win away series

Posted by   on (September 4, 2014, 8:13 GMT)

Strangely not even one word of praise for Mohammed Shami who was maximum wickets taker and took three wickets with good economy rate.

Posted by Naresh28 on (September 4, 2014, 6:22 GMT)

This last win has brought back smile to Indian fans. After the test series we were highly critical of our team. Slow starters seem to be norm with our team. For me the most significant change has been - RED to WHITE ball. Raina and Shastri have also lifted spirits. Rohit, Dhawan and Kohli are showing signs of return to form. They are good players and a sight to watch when in full flow. Rahane (Dravids favorite of the new bunch) has been the best - he has played at various positions successfully and also in the two formats. Of the bench players Sanju Samson and Rayudu wait. Bowling still lags behind and needs careful attention before the ODI wc.

Posted by android_user on (September 3, 2014, 21:42 GMT)

the headline should read as 20 overs to spare not 30.

Posted by Nampally on (September 3, 2014, 20:58 GMT)

@ Sir_ Ivor: Welcome back! It is nice to read some words of wisdom in broader sense than read mostly "Mini Items" such as Red ball vs. White ball or the Aussie pace bowling strength. I agree 100% with you about Shastri's most dominant role in turning this Indian team into "Self Believers". You rarely see Dhoni talking to players one to one as an advisor or encourager. In fact once I saw Dhoni's tongue lashing at Pujara(shown on TV) when he brought drinks as a 12th Man! Shastri's approach is different. He grills those who are undisciplined & boosts those who are down to believe in themselves by providing them the mental strength. He corrects their defects by working with them either in batting, bowling or fielding. Dhoni does not have the personality to do this. Ravi took a team with 1-3 Test record & turned it topsy turvy with 3-0 ODI record. Indian Batting, Bowling & Fielding is like "Wold Beaters". If Shastri is with the team in Oz land he will find a way to WIN , he alone knows How!

Posted by JG2704 on (September 3, 2014, 20:33 GMT)

@gomahajan on (September 3, 2014, 11:46 GMT) The 3 most regular posters from Eng on this thread - are myself , CodandChips and RU4RealNick. Personally - and I'm sure C&C/RU would be in agreement - I'm not reading too much into the test win vs India. India are known for being terrible travellers when it comes to test cricket especially in long series and it's up to you if you decline to accept your test team is pathetic but away results in recent years don't bode well for your arguments. I'd still say we are as far as ever from SA and now Australia in tests. Re ODIs/SFs - we are woeful right now and it is painful to watch. I want England to do as well as they possibly can in any format and it is really frustrating. I'm sure the 2 fans I mention will echo my views.

Posted by JG2704 on (September 3, 2014, 20:33 GMT)

@Yevghenny on (September 3, 2014, 8:55 GMT) But KP wasn't playing in the KP way for some time before he was outed. I can't recall a switch hit etc for some time.

@_-Will-_ on (September 3, 2014, 8:44 GMT) I don't think it's just an investment thing. In England's case , I find it bizarre how they go about things. They seem obsessively trying to make certain test players into ODI players and yet they end up resting test players from ODIs etc , so why not try the opposite and try and construct a team where you don't have to worry about resting players? But I'm with you in that there is no reason why a team shouldn't try to excel in all formats

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 3, 2014, 15:35 GMT)

Not sure whether the world understands the economics of the cricket. BCCI earns more money that all other cricket boards combined. So whatever wins India has will get more footage in absolute number and economic terms. I am afraid that we have come to a situation that India keeps the cricket flowing. So if they don't want to participate in tests, it has a high chance of being extinct. IT'S A FACT. Period

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 15:32 GMT)

I saw both Rahul Dravid and Sachin tendulkar together in Rahane's innings. Enjoyed it.

Posted by IndianSRTfan on (September 3, 2014, 15:26 GMT)

A comprehensive victory for India. It was good to see India excelling in all three disciplines of the game.

There are a couple of reasons why this was a particularly pleasing win. One, the way fast bowlers set up the game by taking early wickets was beautiful. Two, after a long time, the opening partnership was a big one and despite a modest target, which they could have chased in a leisurely way, it was explosive like Sehwag-Tendulkar era. In this new era of ODIs, opening partnership have to be both significant and fast paced. They simply can't afford to sacrifice one for the other.

In previous matches, both these areas were a matter of concern and it was good to see that India, despite big wins in previous ODIs, rectified their mistakes. This is a sign of a team willing to improve and hungry to win.

For the last match India should test the bench strength. Umesh, Sanju, and Karn need to play. The batting composition looks settled for the WC, but the bowling lineup needs options.

Posted by jjradha on (September 3, 2014, 13:16 GMT)

It took 14 innings for sheikar to come back to form. Will other players get the same freedom like Rohith and Sheikar.

Posted by ShanNachimuthu on (September 3, 2014, 13:16 GMT)

Remarkable performance by the Indian team. The team performance helping individuals like Dhawan and Virat to get back into form, which is good sign for Indian preparation to WC. What a lovely innings by Rahane!!! Technical perfection with attacking instinct, which is very rare combination for a batsman. In tests, India deployed its limited over resources and paid the price for it. Now the England deploys its test team for ODIs and paying back to India. This one day series become one sided series. BCCI made a right move in appointing Sastri to oversee the ODI team. It is really helping the team management to evaluate their strategy and approach. Sastri inclusion brought lot of positive energy into the team. He should be continued with same designation till world cup. Again, not to be over excited. Forget the past performance.Every player should not relax himself based on his past performance.Team India, One game at a time is the mantra for continued success.

Posted by ramli on (September 3, 2014, 12:38 GMT)

By the way ... nobody prepares green tops anymore for ODIs anywhere ... so, beware of India in WC2015

Posted by ramli on (September 3, 2014, 12:35 GMT)

@tanstell87 ... what if India loses in tests in aus, it has happened before ... on the contrary, India will make it to the final of tri-series and also into last-four in WC2015 ...

Posted by gomahajan on (September 3, 2014, 11:46 GMT)

It is funny seeing England fans hiding their team's drubbing in ODI's and soothing themselves by recalling India's "disinterested" display in test matches. Friends, it wasn't a glorious cricket display by England, but a highly disoriented display of cricket by India. I simply decline to accept that Indian test team is pathetic, I think it is a clear cut case of not being interested in the fading longer format at all, simply because our boys get a lot more to do and display in one day. And I don't blame them for that as there is very less test cricket being played in this part of the world. I bet if there is higher interest in public for longer format and players are rewarded more for performing in test cricket, you guys will be seeing the same level of beating there too.

Posted by tanstell87 on (September 3, 2014, 11:10 GMT)

@ First_Drop - we fans from the nineties & years earlier want a strong Indian test outfit...but the new generation of fans are not interested in tests...until 2005/6, lot of fans turned up for test matches in all test centres...now you only get sizable crowd for test cricket in Mumbai, Madras & Kolkata...also with Sachin, Dravid , VVS, Ganguly, Sehwag gone from test team, people are no more interested...although there are many fans like me who want India to compete at test level and if Virat Kohli is selected as captain for Australia tests, India might even win 1 match against Aussies who excel only on bouncy & fast tracks....but it wont happen & India will lose all 4 tests, wont make tri-series final & probably wont make second round of World Cup...

Posted by Sir_Ivor on (September 3, 2014, 10:56 GMT)

Jamie Moneghan, there is no doubt that if Mitchell Johnson and Ryan Harris are fit enough with Staarc Pattinson and Cummins to choose from, Australia has a formidable team at the moment. And Lyon is no ordinary spin bowler. He is good no matter what the Australians think about him. In my earlier post in response to this piece I had written why India played so badly after a fairly promising start.They lost 1-3 for some very clear reasons. Right now they have Shastri to guide them whereas, in the Tests they looked rather rudderless. And Shastri will be there when this team tours later this year. That means this team will have a very shrewd former captain who has done well in Australia at the helm. Incidentally Glenn Magrath is going to be preparing the Indian fast bowlers also.And they have some good spin bowlers also.The team that you see so good now may just be able to compete better that expected Down Under.Cricket is a strange game. Luck matters also. So let us just wait and watch.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 10:54 GMT)

Rahane's clearly the best candidate for the opening slot, especially in seaming and bouncing conditions. He's a good backfoot player with excellent balance, with the ability to play with the vertical bat in seaming/swinging conditions, and with the horizontal bat when there's bounce. He seems to be the closest we have to Tendulkar in terms of technique for overseas conditions, especially Australian conditions. Just needs to play the ball a little late once the pitch slows down a little to avoid caught and bowled.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 10:43 GMT)

@Jamie Moneghan there is no doubt India has problems in test cricket but if the degree of smugness and complacency you display is representative of most Australians then that can only be good for India. It is true that India faces a number of fundamental problems. But because of the very deep-seated nature of these problems they are not going to be resolved before the Australian tour anyway. In the meantime good one-day performances on English pitches will only boost the confidence of the team. The BCCI has signalled by summary changes in backroom personnel of the touring side that it is not prepared to sit idly by and watch performances like the one we saw during the test series. The BCCI has its detractors (me among them - and rightly so) but don't underestimate the blow to their bloated egos of the results of the test series - there will be repurcussions. The presence of Glenn McGrath at the MRF Pace Academy is one sign that things are being taken with serious intent - watch out!

Posted by rock.rockyin on (September 3, 2014, 9:56 GMT)

@Jamie Moneghan

we clearly wont forget what happened in test series.. most knowledgeble cricket fans of India are not clearly happy even after these ODI performances.. I know India will defnitely struggle in tests.. and hoping it will be a 5-0 whitewash.. but what is great here.. we whitewashed you in India 4-0..

Each team is now strong in their home conditions.. LOLLLL

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 9:56 GMT)

Just one inning that too in no pressure situation doesn't make Rahane better than Rohit .though I agree that he is technically better than Rohit. I would like Rahane to perform the similar way when India needs 300+ runs. And I think Dhawan is not technically that good to play at the TOP in overseas conditions. Anyways I am not worried about the first six batsman..My concern is the 7th spot. Jadeja is good only when its spinning track. On green bouncy track he is useless, both in batting and bowling department. I would like to have Yuvi in this squad.I hope he will play some extra ordinary cricket in the domestic tournament.


I agree man..Bopara is really a very good all-rounder....I was shocked when he was not picked by any of the IPL team last season...So did I shock when he was not picked for this series... I think Morgan and Bopara are the player to watch out for England in the WC-2015

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 9:55 GMT)

@Jamie Moneghan who said india is not interested in tests....india is going through rebuilding phase...it takes time for a team with whole bunch of new players to get used to the purest form of cricket...we have still 3 months and i am sure india is going to disappoint you by giving some healthy competition... and its not only india...u remember 2009,11,13 ashes series where u were pinned down completely by england like 3-0,3-1 and most of the times margin was in terms of innings....

Posted by baghels.a on (September 3, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

Contd : one can't blame the ECB or host Broadcaster Skysports because every time a touring team comes to England they never fail to arrange a full 5 match ODI series along with the tests and do so even with Ashes on, just like nobody can accuse BCCI of neglecting tests as they never interfere with the Ranji season and only host IPL in summer months unlike other countries who mix there 4 day competitions with T-20 leagues.BCCI is also scheduling this whole host of 5 match ,4 and 3 match test series.Most of us Indian fans including me rate World Cup as the pinnacle but if others don't not my problem, i like my IPL but others might not..... Having said that India as a cricket crazy nation has to do well in Tests especially overseas and recent spineless 3-1 loss in tests should not be tolerated and no excuses made.For the moment i am delighted with India winning this ODI series and congratulations to Indian team.

Posted by shaykumar on (September 3, 2014, 9:47 GMT)

Fantastic match for an indian supporter. The ease in which Rahane was reaching the boundary was almost dravidesque... Loved the patience shown by Dhawan to build on this congrats man! But in recent times my favourite player of the indian team has changed a lot, I remember in the early 2000s it was Dravid, then Sehwag then tendulkar then yuvi then kohli then rohit but there is one thing common, all of them have always been batsmen. TODAY I am proud to say my favourite player in the Indian team is Bhuveneshwar Kumar! What an amazing player! Thank you !!!

Posted by baghels.a on (September 3, 2014, 9:33 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster : as an Indian fan i appreciate your support for the Indian team but you are way off the mark here, it is not our headache and it shouldn't bother us one bit whether England prefer Ashes over WC or not....you got to cut England some slack because England unlike India is a Football loving country with Cricket arguably lagging behind Rugby in 3rd place, doing well in tests particular Ashes is very important for cricket to remain relevant in England.I don't follow TMS but i looked up there internet forum and found Graeme Swann and Michael Vaughn used very strong language to describe the English performance in ODI'S and called for radical changes in both selection and outlook of English team towards ODI's and most of English fans in the comments section tended to agree with them just like they do here on Cricinfo, so that's that. to be contd...

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 9:25 GMT)

While I should stop criticizing England first for their heavy defeats in ODI like some of us here doing , I would like to give full credit to a quality Indian ODI team for their comprehensive yet clinical performance. As we all know Cricket is a game where mental toughness and adjusting to the situation matters the most. A loss and win can happen in a matter of delivery bowled itself. I would think Indians should focus on the Tests, frame strategies fully and try to stick to it as much as possible and last but not the least should develop the art of rigour of batting for longer period of time, tactics of taking 20 wickets and come with all guns blazing in fielding department- "If they reduce the number of dropped catches, their winning chances in TEST matches will certainly improve"

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 3, 2014, 9:18 GMT)

As a Aussie the fact India beating England in the ODI is perfect for us as your shambolic performance in the tests will be swept under the carpet so when you arrive in OZ later in the year Australia will finish what England started in the tests and sweep India aside as your team clearly is not interested in test cricket, but that suits us fine.

Posted by pitch_curator on (September 3, 2014, 9:17 GMT)

@ KiwiCricketFan - Bilateral series are different from multi-national tournaments like world cups. Especially the knock out games of WC are a completely different ball game. SAF and NZ are case in point. SAF have never won a single knock out game in WC in their history. NZ have never reached the final despite reaching the semis many times. Also, the pitches for WC are supervised by the ICC and the host cannot manipulate them to their advantage as it is done in a bilateral series. IMO if India play NZ in the world cup, no matter where (AUS or NZ), India will most likely win - and win easily. In pressure games, NZ batting simply crumbles and I have seen it over many many years. They rely on every one contributing but my observation is that in high pressure games, you need one-two players to stand up and contribute massively for the team to win. Others are only there for support. This Indian team has a lot of experience in playing high pressure games and they have the match winners reqd

Posted by android_user on (September 3, 2014, 9:15 GMT)

Too many alrounder in team ...stokes .woaks ..moen ali....you ned a specailist either bowling or betting...if your 6 batsmen can't make a runs so its worst looking from 7 and 8...allrounder is ok if you have players like kallis or watson ...allrounder have to good in one area either bowling or batting...but england allrounder can't make a run and can't take wicket...but england thinks diffrently...

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 3, 2014, 9:02 GMT)

No captain can win over 91 matches by sheer luck. He got a good team to command early in his career. After WC 2011, he played a vital role in one day format to cement the team as contender to any. Dhoni records speaks for himself and India is really lucky to find out this gem.

Posted by Yevghenny on (September 3, 2014, 8:55 GMT)

Oh and as hard as it will be for some to admit, but removing Pietersen from this side has removed a massive fear factor for other nations - Pietersen played his own way regardless, the rule based "all for the team" must suffocate natural instincts, talent and experience. But then again, he was always slated for that, getting out to reckless shots - it's the way to play this format for goodness sake, and England cut their nose off to spite their face

Posted by _-Will-_ on (September 3, 2014, 8:44 GMT)

JG2704 on (September 3, 2014, 7:32 GMT) re. your response to Capt.Meanster, well said and thank you.

As for which format is "better", "purer" etc, I only wonder this: Why not aim for excellence in all formats?

I can accept that some boards might not be flush with cash, but certainly the "big three" must have enough in their coffers to invest in all formats? Even if fans are split on which format they prefer, surely competitive national sides in all formats would yield tangible benefits to the game, from both fan/spectator satisfaction and financial perspectives? I assume these two elements are linked (increased satisfaction = increased patronage & spending?)

Cricket is constantly evolving. National cricket boards have an immutable responsibility to ensure their sides - in every format - are kept abreast of changes and given every chance to adapt. Some are faring better than others but India and England really have no excuse. Maybe if those at the very top were held accountable....

Posted by Yevghenny on (September 3, 2014, 8:43 GMT)

The biggest problem England have is that the people in charge of overseeing results, performances and tactics are probably the ones pushing this dismal approach to one day cricket. It seems players can only play with freedom when the result is well and truly gone and they are told to just go out there and play rather than stick to this terrible plan of "slow and steady wins the race". Cook is in complete and utter denial about his place in the side, the tactics being employed, and England's chances of winning the world cup. He says "when I play well I bat to 40 overs", well when do you play well Alastair?

Posted by Rexton87 on (September 3, 2014, 8:31 GMT)

" It was a femme fatale of a delivery, curving back in seductively and leaving Hales dumbstruck as he looked for his favoured cover drive" brilliant and picturesque writing, enjoyed this Alan.

Posted by First_Drop on (September 3, 2014, 8:29 GMT)

@tanstell87; As an Aussie cricket fan, I can tell you that the large majorityof Aussie fans would prefer tro win the Ashes than the WC (though we will obviously try to do both).

From what I've read, it seems that most countries would prefer to do well in test matches, apart from India (or at least their fans) who seem to think that ODI is more important than tests, which I find quite strange.

Posted by 2nd_Slip on (September 3, 2014, 8:28 GMT)

Rahane>>>>>Kholi, Kholi is overrated. Rahane is the one and only solid batsman for tests and ODIs in the whole Indian team!!.....SA Fan

Posted by nadnakinam on (September 3, 2014, 8:19 GMT)

Suresh Raina, the difference between Test defeats & ODI wins.

Posted by tanstell87 on (September 3, 2014, 8:05 GMT)

To English fans - i don't get your mindset guys...preferring Ashes over World Cup...you guys should learn from Australia who look to win every series whether it is tests or ODIs

Posted by MichaelBurton on (September 3, 2014, 8:02 GMT)

In my honest opinion, 3-1 victory in tests is way better than even 5-0 win in shorter format games. Anyway, the final results will be 4-1.

Posted by tanstell87 on (September 3, 2014, 7:59 GMT)

we are just as bad in tests just as England are in ODI's....well this win by Team India over a mediocre hopeless English side doesn't count for anything...India were blown away in ODI's in South Africa & New Zealand...just as Sunny Gavaskar said that if India wins in ODI's, the test defeat will be swept under the carpet...this has been happening since long...time has come for India to select separate team for test cricket...but it wont happen and India will be thrashed by Australia in December -January later this year...

well done to Ajinkya Rahane...this is what Rahane can do at the top of the order....let the ever-inconsistent Rohit Sharma bat at 4(Rayudu is better)...

India should play Karn Sharma & Umesh Yadav in next game...Sanju Samson will get his chances after 2015 World Cup...the next wicket-keeper batsmen after Dhoni...

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 7:51 GMT)

@electric_loco_WAP4 were you running out of memory during last year champions trophy....everyone knows what shikhar did in that series against quality pace attack like SA nd if still u hav any doubt jst wait for few months u will get ur answer...

Posted by cricketclassics1 on (September 3, 2014, 7:47 GMT)

fantastic performance men in blue, I personally think India should play two completely different teams for test and odi formats

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 7:45 GMT)

3-1 test win>>>5-0 ODI win

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 7:39 GMT)

Great victory in the end. It would be good to focus more on tests which is the true form cricket rather than shorter format games.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 7:38 GMT)

Great victory in the end. It would be good to focus more on tests which is the true form cricket rather than shorter format games.

Posted by vkumar_086. on (September 3, 2014, 7:37 GMT)

We Indians love to get all out cheaply. We cant bat on expressways like Sharjah getting all out for 54 in 2000. We got all out for 42 in 1974 in Lords because we are the greatest in batting.

We got all out for 66 in Durban in 1996. We got all out for 81 in West Indies in 1997 too. Yes we are perfect in batting.

Posted by FerozeMK on (September 3, 2014, 7:36 GMT)

I feel raina is a better replacement in odi's for dhoni than kohli, there is no doubt that kohli is a class player he plays well in challenging situations, but his batting abilities has got disrupted when he is leading a team as seen in the IPL.

Posted by Abaa on (September 3, 2014, 7:34 GMT)

Graeme Swann was right eh ... Why did the English selectors get rid of KP? The only terrifying batsman that the English one day team ever had in the past couple of decades! What a loss. Keep getting humiliated

Posted by JG2704 on (September 3, 2014, 7:32 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster - I genuinely can't see how you (or anyone else) can speak for your entire country re "As an Indian fan" . We've had as many Indian fans saying that the SF performances do not make up for the test performances and that should be the case. In England the Ashes/tests seem to be a priority and in India SFs seem to be.

The reality is that India need to address their issues in test matches (and we still have issues) and England need to address their issues in SFs. As an Eng fan it annoys me how we seem unwilling to even select a suitable 11 for ODIs never mind the tripe we're delivering even if we won the test series vs India. In my book it's not ok to just fold like this and if players/staff have this attitude they need to be outed Not sure why Swann would imply he doesn't care about SFs after criticising the selections etc. I'd say it would be worth having 2 totally separate sides so that test players are not (cannot be) affecting SFs adversely

Posted by wapuser on (September 3, 2014, 7:20 GMT)

Well played boys...keep this performance continued till the #worldcup2015. Congratualation to mr.#coolDhoni for new record as the most successful captain of #INDIA to win most number of ODI's for his country....#JAIHIND.

Posted by vsprabhu01 on (September 3, 2014, 7:17 GMT)

Don't get over-joyed friends, it is just 3 ODI wins after series of drubbing in SA and NZ. It was England who played pretty badly against mediocre bowling attack similar to India who played pretty badly against English attack in tests. I still don't think this team will do well in Aus and NZ. We have still not tried our two of the fastest bowlers, a very consistent wrist spinner, a fast bowling all-rounder who is not in the squad or its potential No.4 batsmen wicketkeeper who can play fast bowling well in their own den. And i do believe above things will give you more chances for winning in Aus and Nz. Sooner we give them chances will be better for Team India, otherwise if India persisit without a wrist spinner, fast bowler ( more 140kmph), fast bowling allrounder then the World cup semifinal line up will be Aus, SA, Pakistan and NZ.

Posted by bdshah on (September 3, 2014, 7:15 GMT)

Rahane Dhawan Kohli Rohit Raina Dhoni Jadeja Ashwin Bhuvi Umesh Shami Shewag Rayudu RishiDhawan Kulkarni

Posted by True_Ind_Fan on (September 3, 2014, 7:14 GMT)

well played India. As Dhoni said, they are only improving. Key factors I noticed: 1. Rahane feels the importance of his innings as well as Power play. 2.Dhavan is being good at stump to stump bowling. Thats what England tried all day today and he was kept on hitting them on to onside. 3. Fast bowlers are doing good. Especially Shami. Team management should really focus on him a bit more. He will be really helpful in WC. 4.fielding is getting better. Still need to compete with SA in fielding department. 5. In outside sub continents first 7-10 overs are really crucial even with white ball. And Dhavan , Rohit and Rahane did really well.

For WC I would prefer Rohit to open. Rahane is good in middle as Dhoni said. He can play fast and spin both really well and he doesn't need lot time to get his timing rite as compare to Rohit.

For WC: Rohit, Dhavan/Raydu, Kohli, Rahani, Raina, Dhoni , Jadeja, Ashwin, Kumar,Shami, Binni/Mohit/Umesh. I am really not a big fan of Mohit.

Posted by humdrum on (September 3, 2014, 7:12 GMT)

England look the same shambles that Ind looked in the last 3 test matches and one should thank insipid leadership from Dhoni for that.The same weakness is visible in Cook"s captaincy.Since Eng continue to be in a state of denial,expect more such drubbings leading up to and even in the world cup,where,we shall have a couple of players burrowing their way back home and announcing their retirements. Cook's wisdom borders on the genius and one eagerly waits for his 'upskill" formula which will change forever,the way cricket is played in England.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 7:12 GMT)

Jayawardene is the real Legend of the world. Look at his tests averages outside subcontinent: 27.10 in SA, 27.8 in NZ, 31.42 in Australia and 35 in England. And in highly testing, difficult & nearly impossible to bat pitches of SL specially COLOMBO this legend averages 60. Even R Ashwin's test batting average in Australia is better as that of Mahela.

Posted by missionbegins2011 on (September 3, 2014, 6:59 GMT)

Dear SL fans, a glimpse of history below just for you


Tests 6 - 14

ODI's 54 - 78

T20's 3 - 3

#hardcore facts IND is far far far ahead

Posted by many07 on (September 3, 2014, 6:58 GMT)

@electric_loco_WAP4. want to remind you that it was a tricky pitch earlier as mentioned by you. All of sudden how it become flattest pitch of the Eng summer. Any ways Thanks for entertainment again.

Posted by PomarJagadish on (September 3, 2014, 6:42 GMT)

@IndianCoolGuy well said dude...Agree with ....

Rahane Dhawan Kohli Rohit Raina Dhoni Jadeja Ashwin Bhuvi Shami Umesh

Robin Uthappa Ambati Rayudu Sanju Samson Mohit Sharma

This 11+4 would be perfect 11 n backup for each position....But i guess ROBIN UTHAPPA will not make it to 15.......As we are playing in Australia we need an additional Bowler/Fast Bowling Allrounder for sure...So selectors might juggle b/w Rohit/Rahane/Dhawan for opening if any issues with form n fitness and bring raydudu/samson in Middle order.

N Rishi Dhawan is better n reliable than Stuart Binny n will be good addition if u exclude Uthappa, but not sure selectors looking upto him as of now..

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (September 3, 2014, 6:40 GMT)

@ electric_loco_WAP4 Mahela (colombo track bully) Jayawardene is the real Legend of the world. So what if he has scored half his runs in colombo. He is the real deal. LOL.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (September 3, 2014, 6:37 GMT)

@ Gaurav Manchanda Thank you Gaurav. If I was a SL fan I would be very quiet and do some soul searching. We Indian fans didn't brag after getting thrashed in Test matches. We openly admit that we were terrible and Dhoni should not captain Test matches on the other hand Sl didn't win a single test series outside SL from 2000 to 2014 and still they think they are better than IND in Test matches overseas. Living is denial. LOL. Sanga on his 1st tour to ENG in 2002 scored a mere 105 runs in 6 innings at an average of 17. But they are quick to point out how other players are flat track bullies. LOL. Mahela oh... the great Mahela has scored half his 100s and half his runs on one ground and they call him Legend. LOL. This is unreal.

Posted by binkuvarghese88 on (September 3, 2014, 6:34 GMT)

We are one of the best ODI team in the circuit. 3- 0 , screwed English happiness !! Desperately want one more. And looking forward for samson @ leeds

Posted by j4884 on (September 3, 2014, 6:32 GMT)

Great win by India. Good for Dhawan to come back into form and awesome innings by Rahane. But some baffling selection by Dhoni not to select Umesh Yadav and instead select Dhawal. I think Dhoni has some personal issues with Umesh Yadav. I see no other reason for not selecting Umesh. Aaron and Umesh are a must for the world cup and should be in the scheme of things for India.

Posted by AIRkris on (September 3, 2014, 6:23 GMT)

england look like they are going to repeat their fellow countrymen's world cup performance in WC15l. give in-form batsmen to open and license to smash. if cook is to keep his spot, he should start smashing. open the attack with fast bowlers (any fast one like johnson?). fortune favors the bold, so it's time to be bold and the best defence (or plan) is attack. things might just turn around in the next few months.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (September 3, 2014, 6:17 GMT)

Shikar 'no feet' Dhawan was back to his best on what was flattest pitch of the Eng summer and batted like on his fave. home tracks. No wonder it was the only time he looked like getting some runs . He will get some more back in Ind vs WI. Then normal service resumes 1st vs Mitch and co. and then vs Mitch,Steyn,Malinga and others in the WC.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 6:10 GMT)

This series win reminds me of India thrashing SL in bilateral series in 2008(3-2), 2009(3-1), 2010 (4-1), 2012(4-1); all series were dominated by India with convincing victories.

Posted by vkumar_086 on (September 3, 2014, 6:06 GMT)

@Yousufahmed1....i disagree with your comparison mahela=jadeja, i feel jadeja is better player in ODI because he bowls and fields well....

you did not add one more factor to become legend...winning the matches in senanayake and murali style

Posted by KiwiCricketFan on (September 3, 2014, 6:05 GMT)

A great performance by India but it ws against a mediocre team. NZ are ranked 7th although they should be 4th or 5th and beat India 4-0. This was because not much spin in NZ and their pace attack is average. Wouldn't get to excited as an indian fan as i predict it wil be Aus, NZ, Sri lanka and pak/SA in semis for WC

Posted by android_user on (September 3, 2014, 6:01 GMT)

first Sri Lanka should stop virat kohli to get hundreds against them then they dream about win against India

Posted by IndianCoolGuy on (September 3, 2014, 5:49 GMT)

Even after watching Rahana's 100, Dhoni said, " Rohit is a very talented batsmen and we cannot take/change decision on opening slot yet " this statement upsets a lot. Rohit is basically a middle order batsmen and have played good knocks at opening but never a fluent player at opening slot. He wastes large amount of balls initially and that is putting pressure on Dhawan. Rahane's batting style is perfect for opening slot. He times the ball very well and have all the shots.

Rohit sharma is very talented and every one knows. But biggest problem is he do not have the temperament. He looses his concentration very easily. He is suitable to come after 35th over and can be very dangerous. Yuvi's position is suitable for him if Yuvi is availble in the squad.

Robin Utappa has also changed his batting style a lot. Rather than hitting the ball hard, he has focused on timing the ball in gaps and has succeeded. He is also a good opening slot contender if Dhawan fails.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (September 3, 2014, 5:38 GMT)

@ vkumar_086 Definition of a Legend in Sri Lanka :- If you can go out for a toss, ask your bowlers to bowl no ball so the opposition batsman can not get to his hundred, Cry for light when about to get humiliated, Change your views about mankading everyday, and stand on the field for 50 overs, then you are a legend of the game.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 5:27 GMT)

The fact of the matter remains India won the series on a foreign land. The NZ series was a tough one and most of the games could have gone either ways. Overall India performed exceptionally well in the series and the ire of Sri Lankan fans is understandable since they know India would be a tough team to beat come this World Cup. I think India, SL and Australia have a fair chance of Winning the Next World Cup.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 3, 2014, 5:23 GMT)

It's a genuine win how bad English team was. India is one of the formidable team and contender to WC15. No fan with common sense will deny that.

Though SL fans at best, try to drag this down, they still hold bad odi record against India. Mathews accepted this just before Carlos series In w.indies. They lose in humiliating manner - thanks to Dhoni. Better they grow.

Posted by many07 on (September 3, 2014, 5:22 GMT)

@ vkumar_086 very funny....thanks for entertaining.....symptoms are clearly visible that how badly the sentiments are hurt because of this India series win over england.....please do keep entertaining...Thanks

Posted by cric_surgeon on (September 3, 2014, 5:17 GMT)

I have a request here. Please do not compare teams. Each has some special qualities. Please always remember crocodile is powerful in water where elephant cannot win a fight. People say a lot of things about Indian team going to England, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand and merrily predict white washes all out and started talking about first round exit in the world cup already. I really pity them for not looking straight and thinking wisely. How many world cups Australia and South Africa or England and New Zealand have won so for when the world cup matches are played in India in particular and Asia in general? We are good in our own waters as they are. When things go well we are all in praise, but one mishap hell breaks lose. Is this really fair?

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 5:10 GMT)

How is it possible that a team that claims to be super talented and wins 3 test matches suddenly starts loosing one days with such huge margins? Looks like the reason they won the test matches not because of their effort but the enormous assistance they were given by the pitch and the ball that is designed to swing ridiculously. Same story as 2011 but then they used that kind of a ball from first test but this time they did it from 3rd test onwards after the Lords test humiliation. Kudos to the Indian team for playing such a fantastic cricket. Beating a team in their home is something commendable. They have all the possibility of finished it 4-0 and I hope we get to see some other form of a record during that.

Posted by Sal0891 on (September 3, 2014, 5:05 GMT)

Fans from other teams are buzzing about WC15 that India can't do well bla bla etc. They are the worst in test that every one knows about it. Even the team will accept that. But in ODI they are completely different than the team which was under Ganguly and Dravid or in WC11. This is the team is on learning process and understanding the conditions very well than in the past. Last SA and NZ tour is the first time for almost everyone except those 2 or 3. They were on rebuilding process during that time. Now they got the right direction some where bits and pieces to work and they got a good chance to understand the conditions in AUS series which is very helpful for them in the bigger event. This Aus tour is so crucial for them and for every other team to know how Ind is going to be in WC. So, Stop those pre-judgmental activities and enjoy the moment.

Posted by JUST2GOOD on (September 3, 2014, 5:05 GMT)

Alistair cook is pathetic as a captain and player in ODIs. How on earth does England select him is a wonder. It was pathetic to see him play two overs as maidens at the start of the innings. I told previously also that even stroke makers like Hales, Morgan and Butler are playing like Cook. Look at their strike rates in this series. And he admits that world cup chances are bad but will not give up his place or captaincy. Vow what selfishness. It was a rotten performance and it is such matches which actually are killing one day cricket. No fighting spirit and no strength. except for Ali none of the top order or even the all rounders showed any urgency in batting and were playing like it was a test match.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 5:04 GMT)

Same thing happened in the last World Cup in Colombo that time it was Dilshan and Tharanga. Years back Jayasuriya and Tharanga almost finished a game chasing 300+, I can't understand Is this same Anderson we saw in Test matches against India? India need a white ball and color dress for Tests and England need a red cherry and white dress for ODIs. Change of format makes such a difference but to Cricket.. I don't believe!

Posted by pandian_ikku on (September 3, 2014, 4:54 GMT)

This only shows how weak England in ODI. There is no reason for Indian fans to be proud about. When you beat Bangladesh you don't much care about that do you. England ODI team is worst than Bangladesh.

Posted by vkumar_086. on (September 3, 2014, 4:52 GMT)

@Yousufahmed1, the hatred of we Indian fans towards Sri Lanka is a well known fact. Sri Lanka won all formats in England handsomely which we Indians failed. Dhoni is a great finisher cos he can help India get finished off inside 3 days as shown in the tests. If DRS was used, we Indians wont ever win. We Indians will do anything to avoid defeat.

Posted by shashi_dhoni on (September 3, 2014, 4:47 GMT)

ENGLAND LIONS team is better than the current England team. India have won and shown the world that they are made for shorter formats. This english team will loose to Afghanistan team in ODIs .

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 4:44 GMT)

winning against England does not make India a certainty for winning the 2015 cup in Australia because England as an ODI team are on downhill. India will have its true test come winter time, and if they can come up with flying colors, then possibility of 2015 world cup triumph. My prediction is for Sri Lanka to win the 2015 cup so they will be T20 champions, ODI champions and Asia Cup holders all at the same time.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (September 3, 2014, 4:37 GMT)

@ vkumar_086. Sl fans care for sure. You people can go to any limit. You pick aliases and then say who cares. LOL. While Sl team barely won, IND won without breaking into sweat. LOL. Poor SL fans. I bet you also don't care that your legend Mahela is averaging same as our no. 8 batsman. But who cares. HAHA.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (September 3, 2014, 4:33 GMT)

@ Albert_cambell Tendulkar has retired, Clearly u were in some cave for last 1 and half year. I don't even know what to say next. Your hatred towards IND is a sight. Thanks for going out of your way to find fault. HAHAHA. FYI Faf will not help your SL or PAK team to win anything. LOL.

Posted by android_user on (September 3, 2014, 4:21 GMT)

in next match dhoni must test new players, ohterwise if dhoni keeps his same eleven this would be a most stupid thing in indian cricket. if he keeps his eleven he is very selfish for his winning records. may b sanju samson can hit big hundred or karan sharma 4 for something will be easier to pick world cup squad. Mr Dhoni try to understand public thoughts.

Posted by KeepitHonest on (September 3, 2014, 4:15 GMT)

Dear Dhoni, Please try out new players like Samson and Karn Sharma for the final ODI - dead rubber; trophy already in the bag.

Posted by android_user on (September 3, 2014, 4:11 GMT)

England got a quality line up as we saw them in the test matches and England have carried most of the test players to the ODIs. it is surprising how format change has shifted the whole momentum from one team to other. Its hard to say what England can do from here on bcoz there isnt any doubt with the quality of the players but England has not been able to impress in both batting and bowling. In batting England is missing a player to play a big knock so that others can play around him. No one has been able to score a hundred. This has been the major difference in the 2 teams. India managed to get 100s or big scores from their players which England failed. There r questions abt taking wickets also. England havent been able to break a partnership once it starts flourishing. They r missing that break through provider. In all there r ao many things missing!

Posted by subratachakrabarty on (September 3, 2014, 4:08 GMT)

That was a huge relief for Team India, and particularly, for three people - MS Dhoni, Duncan Fletcher and newly appointed cricket director Ravi Shastri. Indians did show some character on field. Good to see Dhawan getting some runs at last. But I am really impressed by the temperament of Rahane. He showed that a lot is yet to come. But like I said in my earlier comments, Indians have the tendency to get carried away. I am not sure if Indians can complete a whitewash, which might be the best case scenario and a good way to avenge test loss. So far so good for Indians. Let's win all of it and take home some pride.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 4:08 GMT)

@ vkumar_086 .. I am sure you are a Srilankan in disguise

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (September 3, 2014, 4:07 GMT)

@Albert_cambell. Neighbours still not able to win single a test in India or Australia. Then, forget about a series win!

Posted by kc69 on (September 3, 2014, 3:53 GMT)

Thank god the test series was of 5 matches or else Indian fans would have been jumping with joy just like Sri Lankans for a narrow 1-0 in 2 match series.Tough times will come this december for team India.

Posted by Chanred on (September 3, 2014, 3:45 GMT)

England R Doomed. 1st - Rain. 2nd - Raina. 3Rd - Rayudu. 4th - Rahane. 5th - Ravi Ashwin/Jadeja ??????

Posted by pitch_curator on (September 3, 2014, 3:45 GMT)

@ AvidCricFan - Kulkarni was the best bowler in recent Aus A - Ind A - SAF A - AusAca quadrangular held in Australia. He finished as the highest wicket taker for India A I think. Although I am also for Umesh Yadav, since he would be more effective on Australian pitches if he gets it right, the chance given to Kulkarni is deserved. I hope Bhuvi gets a rest in the final game and Umesh gets a look in. Similarly I hope Sanju gets a chance. Everyone is singing the praises of Raina but I still remember the way he was harried in NZ with short pitched bowling. The same dose will be repeated in Australia (if not in the first game in Adelaide then in the second game by SAF in MCG) and with the new rule of 2 bouncers allowed per over, India better have a back up middle order batsman ready and this is where Sanju comes in. Would have been better if India had tried Kedar Jadhav as he has done extremely well in the recent A series.

Posted by Siva_Bala75 on (September 3, 2014, 3:33 GMT)

IPL may be damaging India's test cricket but surely it is helping India in the shorter formats.

Posted by   on (September 3, 2014, 3:25 GMT)

Talented Rohit Sharma's slow beginning was always putting Shikhar in a pressure situation. This didn't happen now with Rahane. So, Dhawan played freely and its evident today.

Posted by Albert_cambell on (September 3, 2014, 3:24 GMT)

Today Faf showed us a perfect example for a selfless knock. When he was on his 90s he hits a six to bring the RR down. Truly a selfless cricketer who thinks about the teams win. I can imagine what would players like Tendulkar do under these circumstances. He would probably take 10 singles to get to his 100( may be play in a few dot balls as well). Any team would love to have players like Faf, Misbah, Maxwell, Mathews in their team as they are selfless cricketers.

Posted by vkumar_086. on (September 3, 2014, 3:10 GMT)

We Indians win once in a blue moon and talk as if we are winning 100 out of 100 times. We Indian fans cant accept reality that we are one of the worse teams in Asia as shown by the Asia Cup. Sri Lanka and Pakistan have a far better ODI record in Australia than us.

Posted by android_user on (September 3, 2014, 3:09 GMT)

I see this Indian victory against England as Bangladesh winning against Zimbabwe. Both India and England will not make it to the second round. I can also see the Indian fans jumping too early without a bowl being bowled in the Australian tour. lets see how team India fares when the odi tri series will happen in Australia. Rahane is a find at the top, dhawan is a gamble. we need an aggressor with a no fear attitude like sehwag partnering rahane not a sleeping looking rohit or a doubtful dhawan.

Posted by vkumar_086. on (September 3, 2014, 3:09 GMT)

Who cares about this win. We Indians are an overrated team at all times. Sri Lanka, the best team in Asia toured England during the cold spring playing in temperatures which were single digit or in the low teens unlike we lucky Indians who played in 20 plus temperatures as we cannot win at all without luck. Sri Lanka are a great team and that was why they won 5-0 in 2006.

Sri Lanka won the tests and T20s too in England, which we Indians wont acknowledge.

Posted by uksar on (September 3, 2014, 3:07 GMT)

I think two innings, one from Cook in the 3rd Test and the other from Raina in the 2nd ODI, are series defining.

Posted by sweetspot on (September 3, 2014, 3:02 GMT)

When India were a bit interested in Test cricket, they won. Seems like England are never interested in ODIs. It is their attitude of 'proper' vs 'improper' that is making sure they will never win a 'proper' world cup.

Posted by Siva_Bala75 on (September 3, 2014, 2:14 GMT)

Rahane as the opener is great news for India. Rahane's batting style where he 'holds the shape' will work out very well for the first 15-20 overs. Rohit is better off at middle order.

Posted by TRAM on (September 3, 2014, 1:53 GMT)

The main difference between India test team and ODI team is Raina. His fielding, team spirit and selfless batting would multiply team mates' energy several times. He could have easily stayed not out and boosted his personal average in last match but he wanted to score fast and got out.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (September 3, 2014, 1:41 GMT)

If you folks listen to the BBC TMS podcast, you will understand why England will never be a formidable limited overs side. An outrageous comment by Graeme Swann where he says that he's "okay with England losing every game of the World Cup" so that England can win the Ashes that summer is simply the reason why England will continue to lose in limited overs cricket. Their attitude is atrocious. You may win a countless number of Ashes tests against 'one' team, but it takes true strength of character to win the 'World' Cup which involves cricket's greatest prize, involving all the major nations including Associates. As an Indian fan I will say this, our country rather lose 5-0 in a test series because winning the World Cup be it in 50 over cricket or T20 cricket is most important to us. We are definitely building a formidable unit to defend our crown in Aus-NZ 2015.

Posted by Sexysteven on (September 3, 2014, 1:35 GMT)

Yea India got it right with rahane at the top dhawan so found some form once kohli get some runs Indias batting is good in odis the bowling I would like to see Aaron n yadav to bowlers with some pace to be in the team to compliment kumar ashwin and jadeja then I think that would be Indias strongest team

Posted by AvidCricFan on (September 3, 2014, 1:26 GMT)

Since India is winning hands down, no one would question the team selection. I simply don't understand Dhaval Kulkarni selection ahead of Umesh Yadav unless Shastri is pushing Mumbai player in the eleven or Dhoni's dislike of Umesh. Yadav is any day a better bowler than Kulkarni.

Posted by JustIPL on (September 3, 2014, 1:06 GMT)

No doubt india are one of the best sides in ODIs but there will be tougher challenges than Moeen as aus/sa/sl have much better batting lineups. Dhoni was lucky to day to win the toss and use pace of the pitch. England surprised everyone by eliminating tredwell who had troubled indian batsmen in both the games and with moeen would have been very effective.

Posted by Albert_cambell on (September 3, 2014, 0:59 GMT)

A rare away Series win for India. What a week this has been for all the cricket lovers. Its full of upsets and historical wins. 1st we saw our neighbours beating Aus after 31 years. Now we are watching India winning a series in Eng. I personally rate this series win higher than our neighbours win over Aus. Mainly because India rarely wins a series in overseas. Back in the 90s I remember India were even struggling to win a test in Zimbabwe took 52 years to register a test win Pakistan.

Posted by cricchanel.com on (September 3, 2014, 0:50 GMT)

According to Current ICC ODI ranking the No. 1 India proved it by winning the 4th ODI by 9 wickets against England by chasing and easy target towards a 4th ODI win and the OSI series win. India won the last two ODI against England after a wonderful comeback to ODI cricket from Test cricket. This is real a world class performance and world no. 1 level performance. India won 4th ODI 2014 by 9 wickets with a wonderful batting performance of Rahane and Dhawan. India had alarmed England well before the start of the series that it will be a totally different format and we should not be considered as we are in Tests. Some new players were added to the camp with fresh minds and positive behaviors. Rahane made his maiden 100 and what a valuable and memorable 100 this is for him, which is part of the win against England after 24 years.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 23:50 GMT)

Dhoni has many mentors. As he spotted a a bit of moisture below the surface at the toss and decided to bowl, the experienced Sanjay Manjrekar had no doubt that it is a 'bat first wicket'. Do we need such pandits?

Posted by JoshFromJamRock on (September 2, 2014, 23:32 GMT)

Well, being a WI fan, it would be totally unacceptable to lose to this England side.

They can't even get the two most basic rules of picking an XI right.

1) Pick 7 batsmen (i.e. players can and will score hundreds whenever the opportunity arises). Of these 7 guys, 2 (a part-time spinner & a part-time seamer) will be assigned 5th bowler duties (keeping it tight with a wicket here and there) another will be the designated keeper. In these days of ODI cricket, a team needs no more than 2 solid batsmen who can play the role of anchor if needed - the other 5 should be naturally aggressive.

2) Pick 4 bowlers (i.e. players who are dependable for 2-3 wickets a game and will take a 4 or 5-for on their day). To be safe, one of these 4 should be a quality spinner as most pitches these days offer great help to spinners.

Based on this above the England XI should be:

1)Hales 2)Ali 3)Root 4)Ballance 5)Morgan 6)Bopara 7)Buttler 8)Broad 9)Jordan 10)Anderson 11)Tredwell

Its that easy!!!

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (September 2, 2014, 23:31 GMT)

Would'nt read much in these ODI results from an Ind pov.Damage is been already done in 'real' game where they showed they're no match to Eng who were ruthless in 3-1 W.In WC,on tougher,pacy pitches v far superior Aus,SA,SL both Eng,Ind dont have a chance.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 23:25 GMT)

B serious guys it's not 30 overs spare it is almost 20 overs how could u do this blender ?????

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (September 2, 2014, 23:17 GMT)

An Indian here.Whatever scoreline suggests Ind have been flattered,made to look better than they are.Eng were definitely feeling hangover of historic 3-1 W in tests,couldnt bring themselves up for it in lesser format.Not much seperates these 2 ODI teams.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 23:15 GMT)

Excellent play by Indians.

Posted by Amarjitmadan on (September 2, 2014, 23:12 GMT)

Complete and outstanding performance by team India,bowling,fielding and batting. Bhuvi started building the pressure not allowing them any runs while Kulkarni was being fairly generous, for me he should have been warming the benches and Yadav playing. Hales was castles on a beauty by Bhuvi who further frustrated Cook with Raina coming up with a good catch. English batsmen were ill at ease before Morgan and Root doing the repair and build up and added valuable runs and both left soon after each other. Moen Ali played a fabulous innings but once he left it was going to be a matter of few overs. But for Moen's innings they would have been lucky to go past 150. Rahane shut his critics with a super innings and ably supported by Dhawan. Rahane's century was of a very high calibre consisted excellent drives,hook shots and sixes. Cook seemed to be lost in be wilderness and hardly knew where his thinking cap was!

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 22:57 GMT)

everybody here seems intent on keeping kohli in the team fr the final match. IF rohit Sharma is fit I would drop kohli rest dhoni and jadeja, let rahane open and put rohit in the middle order. get in sanju samson and karn sharma and it would be interesting to see how ashwin/bhuvi captain the team as I believe they r might be gud captains. Also i wouldnt select raina as captain as we have seen him captain already though the results r gud I would like to see who could captain the side whn dhoni retires and the only way to know is to try other options. The reason fr dropping kohli is tht he loves a challenge sometimes the best players need to sit out of a game and work on their flaws and sometime just fr the heck of it as it would motivate them to do better. maybe thts wht kohli needs at this point a game where he is nt an automatic pick.

Posted by sri_arpit on (September 2, 2014, 22:52 GMT)

Haha - loved that "clear case of fours being with India"

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (September 2, 2014, 22:08 GMT)

Only watched the highlights tonight... Clinical stuff from India - exciting team to watch, and simply outdid us [England] in every department. Yes England are tinkering around with their teams/strategies, but no excuses - that was simply abysmal from them today. For a country that seems to worship orthodoxy and textbook cricket, it was so embarrassing to watch England's batsmen not use their feet against the spinners and hit more balls down the ground like the Indian openers did so well. I think most of the team got out to cross-batted hoicks. The bowlers had nothing to back them up - both score-wise and conditions; they were simply made to look very, very ordinary out there. Very well played and congratulations on the series win India. I simply can't believe the massive gulf between formats opening up for England now; this is a home series for crying out loud! Worrying signs ahead of the World Cup down under. Cricketing websites are simply full of shattered English hopes. Rightly so.

Posted by Sudhir65 on (September 2, 2014, 21:25 GMT)

Same teams but different formats and the results have flipped. India were horrible in Tests against same team but England have returned the favor in ODIs. How is this possible?

Posted by D.S.A on (September 2, 2014, 21:21 GMT)

England's best XI for odi's, based on potential: 1. Varun Chopra (captain), 2. Michael Carberry, 3. James Vince, 4. Ravinder Singh Bopara, 5. Eoin Morgan, 6. Jos Buttler, 7. Samit Patel, 8. Chris Jordan, 9. Steven Finn, 10. James Tredwell, 11. Graham Onions. In order of preference for replacements in certain positions: Hales as a reserve opener, Ali / Taylor / Ballance as number 3's, Taylor / Ali as number 5's, Ali as a reserve number 7, Woakes / Stokes as number 8's, Panesar as a reserve specialist spinner, not sure about legitimate reserve fast bowlers in odi's for england. There is potential, but the selectors will not tap into it without offsetting it with a mistake, e.g. a Hales-like figure in, to pacify the general public, and Bopara out, to maintain the number of 'solid' batsmen in the team.

Posted by wapuser on (September 2, 2014, 21:21 GMT)

Let's be real about this, Swann is right, England have less chance of winning the World Cup than the football team did in Brazil. But that's not to be too negative about the team, keep blooding the talent, give Bopara a shot and let's get some consistency going.

Posted by Nampally on (September 2, 2014, 21:19 GMT)

What a crushing defeat for England by 9 wkts. & with 20 overs to spare!! It was total dominance by India in ODI 4. Shastri's Mantra is working like Magic. He should be permanently appointed as the Team Director for every overseas Tour. Indian team without discipline looks like "Minnows" as they showed in Test Series against the very same England side. It is amazing that the same side Minus Broad could do nothing right in any department of the game to even to put up a decent fight. Even the Indian openers have been brought back on track to record their highest opening stand of 183 in a long time. Everybody is assigned a job & if they fail Shastri has dealt with them appropriately like the chat he had with Dhawan after his ODI dismissal. What a shame Shastri was not the Team Director during the Test series. India played as a Team in all their ODI's & showed that they can Win if they play with Guts & determination instead of "spineless batting"! Congrats India on a superb Series WIN.

Posted by JG2704 on (September 2, 2014, 21:16 GMT)

@ electric_loco_WAP4 on (September 2, 2014, 13:08 GMT) Not harsh at all. He looks nervous and ill at ease at the crease. He got a bad decision but he's not looked decisive all series

@Cricfever_PM on (September 2, 2014, 18:08 GMT) IMO we need to get rid of pretty much all/if not ALL the test players from the ODI side. Hardly any of them play much SF cricket and it shows

Posted by JG2704 on (September 2, 2014, 21:16 GMT)

Well that was as bad as it gets. All you can say is that Moeen Ali and the Indian openers looked like they were playing on a different pitch from the rest of the England batsmen. However I'd say this is no time for England to panic. They should just calmly say that pretty much every test player is not required and change the whole management set up. Give it to a combo of Swann/Collingwood.

Posted by JG2704 on (September 2, 2014, 21:15 GMT)

Got to love those who are still championing KP esp having him as captain. I guess based on how he inspired his Indian franchise to their 2014 success

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 21:13 GMT)

My squad of 1.Hales 2.Lumb/Bell 3.Taylor/Root 4.Morgan (C) 5.Buttler 6.Bopara 7.Jordan 8.Broad 9.Tredwell (reserve Briggs) 10.Gurney 11.Anderson/Finn that I thought would be our best bet of winning the world cup now, is still pretty much the way I'd go.

As I predicted it would be very susceptible to change, and I guess I'd consider the following changes:

1.Ali for Briggs (if he continues to impress)

2. Luke Fletcher for Finn or Jordan

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 21:12 GMT)

I had said that England should have used this series to try something new. Only then can you know if the current method and personnel are the best. But England went with their side and their method and have been destroyed.

Opening combinations are vital. In West Indies when England won, we had a successful opening combination of 2 players who could bat through at 6 an over. Not only that, but both players could up the tempo. And both players actually scored runs.

Look at county cricket. Look at international cricket. Look at India today. Players successful at batting through have the ability/willingness to up the tempo. Even Trott did when playing well. And he scored runs consistently.

Obviously Broad should come back but the bowling still looks light. However it isn't much different to the bowlers I suggested. I guess there's no quick fix. Perhaps Fletcher or Topley from county cricket could come in? Tbh I really don't know.

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 21:11 GMT)

I remake the point that you need batsmen that bat through (successfully) and have the willingness and ability to up the tempo when required. Michael Lumb scored a debut hundred.

James Taylor? Averaging 80 in List A games for most of last season. Another good list A season this year. Will he ever play? Give him a chance to settle in the side and I'm sure he'll do well.

Hales should play with more freedom but also be given time to settle.

I'm slightly surprised by Gurney's performance but again believe he should be given more time. But I guess if I want Taylor, Hales, Gurney to be given more time to settle I should say the same about Ali, who clearly played well today and in the Windies, and Ballance, who for me has just struggled in ODIs.

Finn and Jordan have struggled, and I admit I named them in my squad. I guess they're just too hit and miss.

I said before this series and still maintain that Bopara is our best white-ball allrounder. Infinitely better than Stokes/Woakes.

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 21:10 GMT)

First was working so didn't see the game/hear commentators so apologies for mistakes.

Before the series I predicted England would lose. After all it's England (and also struggling England) in ODIs against India. However I could never have predicted it would be so catastrophic.

Before the series I called for many changes. Obviously I wanted more intent with the batting. But I also made the point of needing batsmen who score runs. As I said before, when was the last time Cook or Bell lasted 30 overs or scored a hundred in an ODI?

I also made a point of needing better bowling. The bowling today was a clear weakpoint. However most of these bowlers were those who I'd have in my side, bar Woakes, who seems to have improved this series, though I'm still not convinced in white-ball cricket, and Ali, who was our best player today. I'm glad England gave other players chances today as I'm critical of them never doing so.


Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 21:08 GMT)

@Cricfever_PM I agree that the attitude towards ODIs needs to change. They do need to be given more importance. Same with T20Is. When this happens white-ball cricket in England will improve.

But while that isn't happening, England could still improve in the short-term by selecting better players. Arguably this selection shows that England prefer tests to ODIs, since for instance there is no logical reason to select Stokes in this ODI side. Arguably the selections of certain players like Hales, Stokes and Ballance appear to have more view towards next year's ashes than the upcoming world cup. Why else select Stokes, other than to prepare him for tests? Why else would Hales play in this way? What do you think @JG2704?

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 21:00 GMT)

At first, I thought it's going to be a good "Bowling" contest after Bhuvi striked, but when it was England's turn to bowl, Rahane and Dhawan made boring by thrashing England. There was no fight. (Just like India in Test Matches) anyway, I agree with many people here. If Rohit ever gets a chance again, he should forget about opening. He should just leave it to Rahane who plays at a really healthy S/R unlike Rohit. That also takes off pressure from Dhawan and he can play his natural game. And Dhoni should use the Bench. Give a rest to a few players. Poor Bhuvi has been there for a long time. He should rest or play depending what he wants to do. Umesh and Sanju need a chance really badly. And hopefully, the form continues and we can bring the trophy and our pride back home.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 20:52 GMT)

People who are saying 1 test loss = 5 ODIs win needed. That's some rubbish logic you got there. Plus, not all the Test Matches have results. Lots of them get draw or washed out. If that's true then does it mean that 1 ODI loss = 2 T20 matches win needed?? Both are completely different formats. Please use some common sense people.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 20:47 GMT)

Even if India manages to whitewash this ODI series, this won't make up for their test losses. But few of the positives they can take from this series is Rahane's emergence and Bhuvi's form. BCCI's quick amendments to the team management should be appreciated. Ravi Shasthri is to be praised for this success. He has had a chat with both Shikhar and Raina, which has influenced their game. I rate India should continue with Rahane-Dhawan opening combination. Rohit is too slow in the beginning. Thing is Rohit might still do well but he will put extra pressure on Shikhar. Also if both of them get out quite quickly then it puts pressure on the rest of the team. Rohit can be slotted in at 4. In fact, I don't think no other batsman in the squad can be a better no.4 than Rohit. 5 will have to be either Rayudu/Raina. Whoever plays better should take this place. 3rd seamer is still a concern. India will have to find one quickly before the world cup

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 20:41 GMT)

I am still skeptical about Indian middle order.As Yuvi is out of the squad, middle order looks quite inexperienced. I feel Yuvi should be in the Team also Manoj Tiwari too...!!!!

Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (September 2, 2014, 20:31 GMT)

We cannot compare this ODI victory with test series. I respect both the formats equally. This ODI series victory cannot be an answer to test loss. In Tests India's performance was awful, pathetc. They played last 3 matches as if they were least interested and forced to play 5 match test series.

Posted by Chris_P on (September 2, 2014, 20:22 GMT)

@Big_Poppa_94 I can do the maths. That's 8 excluding the Asia Cup which is run by the Asian Cricket Council, not ICC. Plus Australia don't compete in it. So that leaves Australia with 4 WC's (all away & 2 undefeated), 3 U/19. & 2 ICC Champions trophy leaving a total of 9, one more by your view. Not that it means squat comparing U19's with the WC but your point is????

Posted by Presynaras on (September 2, 2014, 20:22 GMT)

So many Eng fans r claiming that they focus on only tests hence their team is better in Tests than Ind. Well let us do a simple analysis. Take the period between 2013-2014. How many Test matches have Ind lost at home? 0. How many Test matches have Eng lost at home? 2. How many Test matches have Ind won away in the said period? 1. How many Test matches have Eng won abroad? 0. So on what basis do Eng fans claim Eng is a better test team than India? The recent Ind's loss to Eng cannot be used as a definite reason to tell Eng is a better team, unless we see how this Eng team fare in Indian conditions. One can point the 2011-12 Eng's home and away win against India and yes that Eng team was better than Ind. But this is a different set and this current lot cannot be judged until Eng play in Ind next year. For a team claiming to focus on Tests a lot, Eng have indeed been miserable in the past year. For a team said to be not too keen on Tests, Ind have done better than Eng.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 20:19 GMT)

well what is thia fuss all about..dear india go and prepare to save your self from injury from MJ bouncers as WC would be following soon..I knew england hwnce knew result after last 3 england ashes wins they lost odis 6-1,6-1,2-1..so it ia open offer from england rhat "LET US THRASH U IN TEST..U WILL GET YPUR SHARE IN UPCOMING ODIS"...so what msd and his team has donw new??

Posted by Keithpandey on (September 2, 2014, 19:59 GMT)

Conclusions of this series..... 1. Rahane the new "weatherman" of team India n the true pupil of "Rahul Dravid". 2. If Rohit wanna be in team he'd bat at 4 or leave the game. 3. For final odi make Sanju in for 4th no n Yadev in place of useless "Dhawal".. 4.If Uthappa wanna be in team he'd stop doing his PR campaign with media or be consistant as far as you can. The only place for you is in opener in t20.

5.Irfan Pathan's ability,capability,skillset n experience is humongous as compared to third rate cricketers like "Binny,Rishi Dhawan,Vinay Kumar n many more..

6. Last but not the least (a)split captaincy in tests n limited over cricket, (b) split wicket keeping in tests n limited over teams..

7. Play Naman ojha as wk for Aussie test series n Pragyan ojha n Amit Mishra are our frontline spinners.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 19:56 GMT)

was the summary part of this article writtEN by some die hard indian fan who alwas have a bit of spice to add up in every india win story??? cause in summary it is mentioned that india won with almost 30 overs to spare...LOLZ

Posted by wake_up_india on (September 2, 2014, 19:53 GMT)

India need to play tests as if they were ODIs. The present Indian batsmen don't know how to play defensive cricket, just as the English batsmen don'tknow how to play attacking cricket.

Posted by bobbi_143 on (September 2, 2014, 19:24 GMT)

There's no denying the fact that India were out played in all departments in the recently concluded test series. However, I still feel things could have been better for India had Mr RJ taken Cook's catch in slips in the third test. Who knows that wicket could have triggered a mini collapse. Cook should step down to do himself and England a favor. I think as long as Cook captain's this side, England players, no matter which format of the game they are playing, they will not be able to get any sort of confidence from their captain and they will lose self belief as well. Things might get even worse for England. Same is the case with Dhoni. He should give up as a test captain and he's fine as a One day and T20 captain. He can play as a WK in tests but no more as a captain please. He looks out of sorts in tests and just waits for the days, matches and series to go by, rather than making things happen.

Posted by bobbi_143 on (September 2, 2014, 19:15 GMT)

India are definitely a far better one day team than England. Though, I love to see India winning this series 4-0, I would also want Sanju Samson,Umesh Yadav & Karn Sharma get to play the final one day game. Everyone talks about the English batting failures and its a fact that they failed collectively as a unit.I am surprised to see no one is talking about Test series hero James Anderson's failure as a bowler in one day series. His figures read 57/0 from 10 overs, 29/0 from 7 overs and 38/0 from 6 overs so far. How is rated as a great bowler if he cannot pick a single wicket in three matches. I reckon he looks silly when the ball does not swing. English conditions are foreign conditions for Indians and Indian conditions are foreign conditions for English. So how does he become gr88 if he cannot pick wickets in his own known conditions when the format changes. Same question goes for the English batsmen..

Posted by iamgroot on (September 2, 2014, 19:04 GMT)

Congratulations Indian team for victory & Dhoni for being the MOST successfull ODI captain with 91 victories in 161 matches. That is wonderful achievement surpassing some big names. What a performance! Rahane started cautiously so did Dhawan who took his time to settle down. Glad that he didn't throw his wicket away. Then Rahane started with 4 beautiful fours in Anderson's over. Eng bowling was poor and their batting was even worse. They were clueless, outclassed, outplayed, crushed and annihilated Eng team . In particular Rahane who was very severe on Anderson. Dancing down the pitch and hitting Anderson for a massive Six It was ruthless performance from Rahane who brushed aside anderson like a club bowler. Dhawan exploded after his 40 and matched Rahane with 4 huge sixes. White ball/Red ball theory is rubbish. Kumar and Shami were swinging the ball nicely. It was lack of skill from Eng who couldn;t bowl like Ind bowlers did. target of 206 was achieved with 20 overs to spare!Howzatt!

Posted by CherryWood_Champion on (September 2, 2014, 19:00 GMT)

Not sure why Bopara is being sidelined. He would provide the required stability in the middle for England.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 18:58 GMT)

May be I am biased but I always thought that opening with Rohit put extra pressure on Shikhar. Two games is too small a sample but Shikhar and Ajinkya went well together. Could we please not play Rohit in the opening slot. I know he scored a half century in game 2 but really I don't see his brilliance outside India. I also would like to see a leg spinner in the team especially on the pitches that have bounce but less turn (Australian pitches). May be the spot of Kulkarni should be rotated between a leggy and a pacer depending on the pitch. Pacer for that position could be Umesh or Varun. We do have some decent leggies to choose from.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 18:56 GMT)

One test defeat = 5 odis wins, we are still trailed by quite a few!

Posted by sk12 on (September 2, 2014, 18:52 GMT)

And that is why you should insist on playing ODIs before tests on away tours...

Posted by bablankalhan55_youtube on (September 2, 2014, 18:49 GMT)

England desperately need Kevin Petersien,Trott back in ODI squad..here is my 11 for the World Cup

Petersien,Hales,Trott,Morgan(C),Bopara,Moin Ali,Buttler,Broad,Tredwell,Anderson,Finn

Well done India...hope dhoni gives chances to Binny,Samson,Umesh and Karn Sharma in last odi..

Posted by IPSY on (September 2, 2014, 18:49 GMT)

See correction: It's my view that England's test team was not in any way whatsoever, better than that of India. But in the test series, the Indian batsmen focused too much on batting theory, rather than their natural ability to blast any bowling attack in the world, and played right into the hands of England. Hence, while they performed below their true abilities in the first two tests, they still won one match; but they then allowed those guys who're now batting experts with just their mouths to interfere with their natural psyche when they were at the crease, thus allowing the humiliating, but flattering result of a 3 to 1 result in favour of England in the test series. But they appear to have corrected that pedantic plan for the ODIs; because I see the young talents who were show casing themselves last year in places like South Africa, New Zealand, etc being allowed to express themselves with their bats, the way we West Indians know to play best, when we have that kind of talent.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 18:47 GMT)

Oops, that was embarassing. In stead of improving on the previous results it's only getting worse for England. I'm really glas I didn't go to see these so called matches.

Posted by wapuser on (September 2, 2014, 18:42 GMT)

I am not happy though feeling like test loss have swallowed this odi victory #TESTcricketisultimate.. .

Posted by vkumar_086 on (September 2, 2014, 18:34 GMT)

"India, the reigning world champions in this format, will need little introduction as one of the favourites for the 2015 World Cup in six months' time"....this sentence only sums up the story of today....yes India along with Australia and SA are strong contenders for WC 2015...apart from these TWO teams, OTHER TEAMS nowhere near to India in ODI...the last team toured England was huffed and puffed to win the series and bundled out inside 70 runs...but India has not even sweating to win the series with one match to go, truly it is ALL ROUND PERFORMANCE....in next match Dhoni should take rest and make either Kohli/Raina as captain and give chance to Umesh Yadav by resting Bhuvi

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 18:22 GMT)

I am really pleased at a much improved performance in the ODIs but I still feel there are a certain areas which need immediate attention. The WC is in Australia and I am still not convinced about Sirs role in Australian pitches. Will he be effective there? His batting is also not dependable on fast wickets. I would like to play a leggie in the big Australian grounds. Mishra or Karn Sharma should be in the squad. Also we need Uthappa. He will be a match winner. My WC squad : Dhawan Rahane Kohli Rohit Raina Dhoni Ashwin Karn Sharma Bhuvi Shami Umesh

Extras : Uthappa, Sir Ravindra Jadeja , Varun Aaron and Mohit Sharma...

Posted by milepost on (September 2, 2014, 18:13 GMT)

The English ODI setup has their test problems. Everybody knows their ODI philosophy is crap, that Cook should not be captain and they are on the go slow. Moores carries on about their plans being sound and the players just needing to perform. Truth is as Swann says they are no where near able to adapt to the modern game despite the counties producing some layers that look like they could make England serious contenders for a good show at the World Cup. ODI cricket doesn't need Trott, Bell, Cook type players, it needs finch, Warner, Watson, Kohli, macullum, maxwell etc. Get with the times England.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 18:12 GMT)

Team India again reminded the fans that they are the world champions in ODI cricket.Congratulations ,Indian cricket team.

Posted by IPSY on (September 2, 2014, 18:11 GMT)

It is my view that England's test team was not in any way whatsoever, better than that of the Indians. However, in the test series, the Indian batsmen focused too much on batting theory, rather than their natural ability to blast any bowling attack in the world, and played right into the hands of the English men. Hence, while they performed below their true abilities in the first two tests, they still won one match; but they then allowed those guys who are now batting experts with their mouths to interfere with their natural psyche when they were at the crease, thus allowing the humiliating, but flattering result of a 3 to 0 result in favour of England in the test series. But they appear to have corrected that pedantic plan for the ODIs; because I see the young talents who were show casing themselves last year in places like South Africa, New Zealand, etc being allowed to express themselves with their bats, the way we West Indians know to play best, when we have that kind of talent.

Posted by desiboy454 on (September 2, 2014, 18:10 GMT)

Great job boys! We are def top 4 for the WC15, but lets not have this domination overshadow our test loss, we need to work on the test team!! but ODI team great job! Rahane is a naturally opener rather than at #4, he bats fast through out! Dhawan also, great to see him get some runs. Rohit: so happy he is out of the team, he is a lazy, unmotivated player, who doesn't bring freshness to the team. So let be him out, use rayadu at 4. Dhawal Kulkari ahead of Umesh was stupid.. Kulkarni is not a international level bowler. My WC xi: 1. Rahane 2. Dhawan 3. Virat 4. Rayadu 5. Raina 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Bhuvi 10. Shami 11. Umesh.. Umeshs pace and bounce in Aus will be helpful. Karn Sharma/samson wont have enough experience to get into WC. This team has enough games, and the least experience people are Rahane and Rayadu, and I think they will do just fine. xi for last odi 1. Dhawan 2. Rahane 3. Virat 4. Rayadu 5. Raina 6. MSD 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Bhuvi 10 Shami 11. Umesh! Lets go!!

Posted by Cricfever_PM on (September 2, 2014, 18:08 GMT)

@CodandChips: What ever the squad come England would never be strong in ODIs until they give the same importance as they give it to Test cricket. They need to develop the player for both test and ODIs and it's time to recall Trott to ODI squad. Cook was fine player but ECb have ruined his limited over chances as He was not even selected to ODIs till 2011(other then that initial matches in 2007), if he was been given chance 4 or 5 years ago he would have been fine player by now. This is the same for all the players and form also matters.

Posted by gsingh7 on (September 2, 2014, 18:01 GMT)

i have been very pleased by indian side to win 3 odis on trott. now they need to win last odi to ensure they remain number 1 side in world till world cups where they will defend their odi crown. 4-0 will be sweet revenge to 3-1 test loss. well done ajinkya and dhawan. now keep winning and making indians proud all over the world.

Posted by ladycricfan on (September 2, 2014, 17:55 GMT)

Well done india for the series. It has been a totally onesided contest.

Nice to see Dhawan back to form. Thanks to the master class of Rahane from the other end it eased pressure on Dhawan. Bhuvi was fantastic. Shami was also contributing well. India's preparation for the World Cup is going in the right direction.

England doesn't seem to know their best XI yet. Needs more experiment in the coming months to find the right combination. Ali's fearless stroke play looked refreshing.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 17:53 GMT)

english fans cannot hide behind by winning in test cricket in their own backyard they are just putting curtains on their team's lacklustre performance in the ODI,and they should be prepared to get a thrashing from Aussies as the dont hv the gentle indian medium pacers they hv real fast snorters who will get in their faces with real pace and u might also see the retirement of so called best swing bowler in the world who has taken 70% of wickets in english conditions.

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 17:45 GMT)

My squad of 1.Hales 2.Lumb/Bell 3.Taylor/Root 4.Morgan (C) 5.Buttler 6.Bopara 7.Jordan 8.Broad 9.Tredwell (reserve Briggs) 10.Gurney 11.Anderson/Finn that I thought would be our best bet of winning the world cup now, is still pretty much the way I'd go. As I predicted it would be very susceptible to change, and I guess I'd consider the following changes:

1.Ali for Briggs (if he continues to impress)

2. Luke Fletcher for Finn or Jordan

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (September 2, 2014, 17:45 GMT)

@Jamie Moneghan: Come back when you have all the ICC trophies. We have the most trophies out of any Test playing nation.

2 World Cups 3 U-19 World Cups. 1 T20 World Cup 2 ICC Champions Trophies 5 Asia Cups

I'm sure you can do the math.

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 17:39 GMT)

I had said that England should have used this series to try something new. Only then can you know if the current method and personnel are the best. But England went with their side and their method and have been destroyed.

Opening combinations are vital. In West Indies when England won, we had a successful opening combination of 2 players who could bat through at 6 an over. Not only that, but both players could up the tempo. And both players actually scored runs.

Look at county cricket. Look at international cricket. Look at India today. Players successful at batting through have the ability/willingness to up the tempo. Even Trott did when playing well. And he scored runs consistently.

Obviously Broad should come back but the bowling still looks light. However it isn't much different to the bowlers I suggested. I guess there's no quick fix. Perhaps Fletcher or Topley from county cricket could come in? Tbh I really don't know.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 17:39 GMT)

Time to give chances to Samson, Karn & Umesh. For the next ODI play Samson in place of Dhoni, replace Bhuvi & Ashwin with Umesh & Karn Sharma.

Posted by wapuser on (September 2, 2014, 17:39 GMT)

It is very ridiculous to know that indian fans have not patience when dhawan was playing better we admired him but when he was out of form we began to abuse him and gave suggestions not to play dhawan. He does not deserve in team because he is not an international player. He has a lot of technique faults but today he has scored 97 runs u began to praise him. Even kohli who is the best player in the word in the current era when he failed to cope with england conditions u began to crticise him. U forgot his success in last 2 years. But kolhi is the best player in the world he will bounce back. Rohit is also good player but u alwsys criticise him.

Posted by cricpanther on (September 2, 2014, 17:37 GMT)

For India last odi: Go with 1. Rahane, 2. Raina (captian), 3. Samsun 4. Karn Sharma 5. rayadu. 6. mohit, 7. umesh 8. binny 9. vijay. 10. kulkarni 11. Sami

For Englad last odi : 1. Morgan (captain) 2. Hales, 3. Moeen, 4. Joe Root, 5. ben stoke, 6. wokes, 7. ballance 8. gurney 9. buttler 10. jordan 11. finn 12. tredwell

Posted by MrSri on (September 2, 2014, 17:36 GMT)

Please rest Bhuvi , Jadega , Rahane and give chance to Umesh Yadav , Sanju and Sanju ... Check if they can be on the run for WC or not. Please forget clean sweep and check the bench strength . If one or two goes out of form before WC then we need the bench experience ... Please Shastri if you really good then I should try the strength of the bench ....

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 17:35 GMT)

When Swann said England had not 'A cat in hells' chance of winning the World Cup he was understating the case. India's openers Rahane (SR 106) and Dhawan (SR119) compare with Cook, (at present around SR 55) and only Ali looked like a limited overs player. It is ironic that Tredwell was dropped after scoring 30 (SR 166 ) and hitting England's only six to date. He also bowled very economically so it was obvious that tactician Cook would drop him. Ali watch out, your performance would indicate you have scant chance of playing in the next game. Someone please tell the clueless ineffectual Cook that he should stand down, but that might mean that Moores & the ECB would have to concede that there was something wonky in the present set-up. As it is all the key protagonists will find some encouragement in a merciless, crushing defeat, and nothing will change. I remember when Buttler was a bit of an attacking player, sadly no more, we can't have that!

Posted by SinSpider on (September 2, 2014, 17:35 GMT)

Now that the WC is a few months away, every team needs to settle on their best 15-18 players. India, Aus and SA are looking good. WI, SL and Pak are working on it and may take one more series. England and NZ have a loooong way to go. Looking at this series, it is hard to guess 8 definite players who will play in WC. Anderson, Broad - sure Cook, Root, Hales, Bell, Morgan - Sure Ali - ? Butler - ? Woakes? Tredwell? Stokes ? Gurney?

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 17:33 GMT)

I remake the point that you need batsmen that bat through (successfully) and have the willingness and ability to up the tempo when required. Michael Lumb scored a debut hundred.

James Taylor? Averaging 80 in List A games for most of last season. Another good list A season this year. Will he ever play? Give him a chance to settle in the side and I'm sure he'll do well.

Hales should play with more freedom but also be given time to settle.

I'm slightly surprised by Gurney's performance but again believe he should be given more time. But I guess if I want Taylor, Hales, Gurney to be given more time to settle I should say the same about Ali, who clearly played well today and in the Windies, and Ballance, who for me has just struggled in ODIs.

Finn and Jordan have struggled, and I admit I named them in my squad. I guess they're just too hit and miss.

I said before this series and still maintain that Bopara is our best white-ball allrounder. Infinitely better than Stokes/Woakes.

Posted by annys on (September 2, 2014, 17:32 GMT)

Rahane take a bow, that photo says it all.

Posted by wapuser on (September 2, 2014, 17:30 GMT)

This one inning does not show that Rahane is an outstanding player. The score was very low so there is no any pressure to score at higher run rate. If he plays this inning in chasing of 300 odd runs then u can say that Rahane did it very handsomely. I still prefer Rohit in opening slot because one inning can not deserve rahane in opening slot because rahane was completely failed whenever he was given to chance as an opener.

Posted by Presynaras on (September 2, 2014, 17:28 GMT)

For the last ODI, it would be good if India tested the bench. Guys like Rahane, Dhoni, Ashwin, Bhuvi, are sure shots to make it to the WC team. So they need to be rested. Dhawan, Raina, Rayudu, Jadeja (as a batsman) have only recently found form, so they need to be given a chance to bat under pressure. My team for the last ODI will be Vijay, Dhawan, Kohli (C), Sanju Samson (wkt), Rayudu, Raina, Jadeja, Karn, Umesh, Shami, Kulkarni. It would be great to try out Vijay, Samson and Karn now.

Posted by CodandChips on (September 2, 2014, 17:23 GMT)

First was working so didn't see the game/hear commentators so apologies for mistakes.

Before the series I predicted England would lose. After all it's England (and also struggling England) in ODIs against India. However I could never have predicted it would be so catastrophic.

Before the series I called for many changes. Obviously I wanted more intent with the batting. But I also made the point of needing batsmen who score runs. As I said before, when was the last time Cook or Bell lasted 30 overs or scored a hundred in an ODI?

I also made a point of needing better bowling. The bowling today was a clear weakpoint. However most of these bowlers were those who I'd have in my side, bar Woakes, who seems to have improved this series, though I'm still not convinced in white-ball cricket, and Ali, who was our best player today.

I'm glad England gave other players chances today as I'm critical of them never doing so.


Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 17:19 GMT)

Most of the english fans has rubbish logic. if they can't win in this format they will say that is not a proper cricket format. This is why they will never win a 50 over Wc becoz they don't know how to play in this format. and then these english fans think they had the best knowledge abt Cricket. even sri lanka has more wc then england.

Posted by Mr_Anonymous on (September 2, 2014, 17:17 GMT)

Time to test out the bench strength in the last ODI: Give Bhuvi a break and give Umesh Yadav a chance. Probably also give Dhoni a break and try Sanju Samson (Kohli can captain). Rest Ashwin and get Karn Sharma in. Also maybe worthwhile trying Binny in place of Dhawal Kulkarni and Murali Vijay (has he joined the squad yet?) in place of Rahane (to test out potential reserve openers in case they are needed).

Posted by warneneverchuck on (September 2, 2014, 17:17 GMT)

India was never favorite to win 1983 wc, champions trophy decade ago, t20 WC in SA, 2011 WC after match with eng and recently held champions trophy in eng..but still they manage to win all big tournaments..same gonna happen next year in Australia

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 17:07 GMT)

hated test but loving ODIs, eagerly waiting to see India whitewash England and give dominant performance in lone t20... Come on Ms & co

Posted by Rajesh.Kumar on (September 2, 2014, 17:05 GMT)

Now a days, Duncan Fletcher is seen nowhere near the Indian team, and only coach present there is Ravi Shastri. As Dhoni rightly acknowledged it the other day, Shastri has brought positive thoughts and fresh ideas to team India, and now they are back on their winning ways. It would have been interesting, had Shastri been the coach during the tests. Because DF has a contract till the end of WC15, and BCCI normally does not terminate the coach's contracts prematurely, it is best to send Shastri in every tour which India undertakes henceforth. I know that by coaching Ravi is letting go of a very lucrative broadcasting contract. So BCCI should compensate him for that, but they should surely send him with team India to Australia, both for the test tour, and also for WC15. I personally feel that Australia test tour should be shifted to immediately after WC15, not just before it. Instead the two teams should play a number of ODIs just before WC15.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 17:05 GMT)

What's important for this India is to atleast show some fight in the Test series in Australia,.. The mindset should not be affected going into the WC... So the real Test for India is the tour of Australia this december

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:59 GMT)

@paramjit that's not stupid question.INDIA pretended they are playing t20 in tests thanks to ipl so they were all out in 20 overs .Next time they should pretend playing one.day

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 16:58 GMT)

Everyone reminding us of the Test defeats need to move on. Yes we lost but thats gone. This is odi cricket now, and India are smashing the english without getting out of 1st gear. So give them some credit and stop bleating on about the Test series. Anyway at least India won one Test, will England win one odi this series?...Jai hind...

Posted by vick2025 on (September 2, 2014, 16:58 GMT)

I think ENG will be at a better place in the shorter format of the game (ODIs, T20) if KP gets another chance. Eng should get KP back into the game and probably make him the captain for the ODIs and T20 because of his past experience in these formats and from IPL. Just like how Dhoni should NOT captain Test series for the Indian team, Cook should NOT captain ODI/T20 series for Eng team. But for India's, unfortunately the only time the a new captain maybe chosen will be after the WC15.

Posted by sweetspot on (September 2, 2014, 16:57 GMT)

Cook said in the post match presentation that they should work very hard. This is where the problem is. There is no doubt England will work hard, but the team lacks imagination. Their work ethic revolves around discipline, attrition and toughness. Winning in the limited overs format takes fitness, imagination and a bit of audacity, other than skills. It is simply not in England's nature at the moment to try anything remotely risky or fun in order to break out of a conservative shell.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:56 GMT)

@Paramjit Gill your question isn't a totally stupid one...................The thing is there is excessive swing at least with new ball in tests.......So if u try to slog it like Indians do in ODI if the ball is swinging away & u slog it straight the thin a few thick edges will fly over slips & edge wil go towards slips always & none will be middled.

If u slog outswinger towards leg u will get top edge that will go up in the air or will pose as easy catch for slips like what happened to Rehane & Vijay in 1st & 2nd test.

Yes If u slog outswinger on the offside along the swing it will go for fours and sixes through cover & gully region like what Sehwag has done in his prime form..

But once the ball gets 20 overs old in tests u can play it like ODI and certainly spinners can be slog swept effectively in tests

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:56 GMT)

Bcci is responsible for INDIA poor performance in test cricket, England selectors are responsible for there pathetic performance in one day.

Posted by ren1 on (September 2, 2014, 16:55 GMT)

RAVI SHASTRI PLS MAKE DHONI & JAEJA NEED REST. India need Get Ready for WC 2015. For next match 1. Rahane 2. Dhawan 3.Sanju (keeper) 4. Kohli 5. Rayadu 6. Raina(captain) 7. Ashwin 8. Karn Sharma 9. Bhuvi 10. Shami 11. Yadav. Pls Give Chance to Sanju Yadav and K. Sharma We already win Series so no Harm

Posted by aravind077 on (September 2, 2014, 16:55 GMT)

well done India . MS dhoni is GOD in ODI's but in test matches he is not good

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 16:55 GMT)

@Big_Boppa_94. Ok then well come back when you have won 4 world cups.

Posted by abstractCricFan on (September 2, 2014, 16:53 GMT)

Not sure if India can be considered favorites for the WC after one series against a side that's been woeful in limited overs cricket throughout the last 16 months ...Not sure if England can be considered to be even competing at the WC after this thrashing at home ... Historically, every time England has won the ashes they've still managed to be thrashed in the ODI series following that ( 2005 (lost the Natwest) , 2009 (6-1), 2010-11(6-1), 2013 (2-1))..Surely one can't be ignoring that ..this has been going on forever

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (September 2, 2014, 16:52 GMT)

@David Allen: ODI isn't proper cricket? lol the whole point of cricket is to score runs and bowl out/limit your opposition. The whole point of any sport is to achieve a result. To win. Most Test matches end up as draws or most game time is washed out. Lol that's hardly going to attract crowds and expand the sport globally is it?

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (September 2, 2014, 16:49 GMT)

@Jamie Moneghan: Shame Test cricket is completely irrelevant and doesn't lead to winning World Cups. Cricket will only become a global sport when Test cricket is cast aside. ODIs and T20s are the future of the sport.

Posted by thaikkathameed on (September 2, 2014, 16:47 GMT)

In ODIs everything is okay with MS Dhoni, but please do not let him captain the test team again. His over defensive and unimaginative captaincy is really hurting and harming Team India.

Posted by vick2025 on (September 2, 2014, 16:46 GMT)

Dhwan surprises me every time...well Done man..you and Rahane did Indians proud....I wish you guys played the Test matches like ODIs...but this ODI series WIN is also big...especially we showing England how this format of the game is played....after watching today's game...Eng chances of being competitive for the WC will only happen if they bring new players otherwise it will be another blunder from them...I really hope the other players from the Indian team get a chance to play in the next game like Yadav, Sampson and so on...excellent win guys..but don't forget...there is still a lot of work left to get better in Test games!!

Posted by RaghuProdhutoori on (September 2, 2014, 16:45 GMT)

Well played India again and there is no stopping for them in ODI's...loved the way Rahane batted today which eased the pressure on Dhawan and allowed him to settle in....Rahane deserves more innings of this kind..Congrats to MS for winning more ODI's than any other captain for India....Raina was exceptional again in his bowling and fielding...But India has to sort out the third seamer role as soon as possible or else whenever Bhuvi/Shami fails all of a sudden India bowling will look mediocre again..India need to give Aaron/Umesh a chance...Still I didn't understand as India were timid of Anderson and co in test series but now they are humiliating the same bowling unit....how this happened all of a sudden is this the Ravi Shastri's injection of optimism in TEAM INDIA..

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:45 GMT)

I am very pleased to see that India is doing very well and I hope it will be continue. although india has won the series and one game is left formally , hope that will be won by India.And it will be a crucial win for indian side after long time in onday history.why not just three match in one row with good margin and good batting average.now India is still exist no. one in ranking for onday international. Best of luck for my lovely team.

Posted by thaikkathameed on (September 2, 2014, 16:39 GMT)

In ODIs everything is okay with MS Dhoni, but please do not let him captain the test team again. His over defensive and unimaginative captaincy is really hurting and harming Team India.

Posted by Sal0891 on (September 2, 2014, 16:37 GMT)

The last two matches shows how Rohit is not perfect for the opening slot. If Rahane is really happy to open the innings then why we have to stick with Rohit on top? What Rahane did is the most inspiring that he backed his fellow mate and took the pressure within when his partner is not in good form which was never happened with Rohit for the past 15 matches??. He made the right spirit throughout and excelled the innings. But Rohit had enough chance in the place yet he has to prove his best in that place especially on overseas conditions. If critics still want Rohit to play he can go to No.4 slot which is also a big challenge for him. Whenever we see Rohit, he is always low in confidence, poor SR, not utilizing the chance whenever he got a start and vulnerable play and low SR at initial part which doubles the pressure towards his partners. Better stick with this pair for couple of series and take decision. I think this pair do wonders than what we did with the last pair.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:37 GMT)

I have a stupid question - lets see if I will get a stupid answer. When India played test matches against England, why could not the Indian batsmen just pretend that they were batting in an ODI and not in a Test?

Posted by thaikkathameed on (September 2, 2014, 16:35 GMT)

In ODIs everything is okay with MS Dhoni, but please do not let him captain the test team again. His over defensive and unimaginative captaincy is really hurting and harming Team India.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:35 GMT)

Congratulations to India for taking the series, but we still look forward to whitewash England. My team for last match is Dhawan, Rahane, Samson, Rayudu, Raina, Kohli, Ashwin, Jadeja, K sharma, B Kumar, shami. Dhoni should go rest next match and let samson to play. Hopefully we will see bench players to play the next match. Raina and Rayudu should be deployed in the test too. We need some alignment for the test team.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:34 GMT)

Bell,root,Anderson ,cook are test, players full stop

Posted by Regwec on (September 2, 2014, 16:30 GMT)

Firstly, congrats to the indian openers- a most assured performance.

Secondly, Indian fans who hail the demise of English cricket have remarkably short memories.

Thirdly, this can't go on. Cook can't maintain his authority as test captain if he is simultaneously a laughing stock as ODI captain. He should try to win back some dignity in the next match, then bow out with some dignity.

I cannot see the harm in calling up Vince, Taylor and Roy right now. Give them a pressure-free knock with the T20 still to come. Could it be any worse?

Posted by its.rachit on (September 2, 2014, 16:29 GMT)

odi defeat with 20 overs to go with a target of over 200 ... this in defeat terms shud be equal to India's defeat in 4th or 5th test ...

Posted by md111 on (September 2, 2014, 16:28 GMT)

Did England want the test series more - Yes Did India want the ODI/T20 series more - Yes Have India picked their best side - Yes Have England picked their best side - Most definitely not and it is a big worry as they embark on their build up to the world cup. That side could be embarrased by a minor nation. Changes need to be done now and should have been done after the Australia ODIs

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:27 GMT)

A problem now with this dead series is that India have nothing to win and England nothing to lose so will the last match be simply a glorified audition for new England hopefuls against an Indian 2nd XI. One day cricket is a fundamentally different game to test cricket. For all it's attractions it has little to do with proper cricket and the skills that thrive in the one day arena often do not comfortably cross the invisible boundary. Test and four day cricket is all about getting batsmen out whereas one day cricket is about limiting the scoring and the skills reflect that. Bowling is about accuracy and pace variation and although class quick bowlers can make early breakthroughs they are more often than not a liability and just go further. 85 mph on truly flat pitches with the white ball just isn't anywhere quick enough to worry world class batters. England have some astounding one day performers in the counties so we need to play them and not stick with Moores favourite non performers.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 16:27 GMT)

@Rajesh_Imdia_1990. You summed it up perfectly as India were annihilated , demolished, pummelled, humiliated, thrashed in the Test series hey? You were pretty quiet then.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:26 GMT)

What happened to Morgan, he is good batsmen but getting out. Bopara should be back...take this team England and give fight to INDIA 1)Hales 2) Vince 3)Taylor 4)bopara 5)Patel 6) wesseles 7) Ali 8) Rashid 9)bresnan 10) tredwell 11) rankin

Posted by Rahulbose on (September 2, 2014, 16:24 GMT)

The T20 Indian generation probably have already forgotten the recent exposure of lack of quality and shortcoming of Test squad. It would be best if BCCI declare India will stop playing test matches until further notice and will concentrate on ODIs and T20s from now on.

Posted by Big_Poppa_94 on (September 2, 2014, 16:24 GMT)

@Percy_Fender: While that is notable, another reason is that India aren't really that interested in Test cricket. It is clearly evident. India have always been poor overseas, with some competitiveness during their "legends" era (drawn series in Aus 2003/04, win series in NZ '09, drawn series in SA 2010/11). Also, this current India team is relatively young in terms of caps. This was the first Test series (especially a 5 match one) in England for a lot of players. I think they'll be better next time around. They've proven they can play in tough conditions as proven at Lord's. Moreover, the problem with India Test Cricket is that the introduction of IPL has eradicated any patient mindset that is required in Tests. IPL has however greatly improved India in ODIs. Ultimately, for India to be a force in Test cricket they need to groom fast bowlers like Aaron and Yadav; as well as nurture batsman like Kohli, Pujara and Rahane by sending them to play English county cricket.

Posted by SandhyaMohan on (September 2, 2014, 16:23 GMT)

Every body is so harsh against Cook, What can he do if Bell, root, Morgan , Cool doesn't score runs and Anderson not able to give the wickets with the new ball. It is the same situation Dhoni was in test series where kohli, pujara, Rohit were not able to score runs.....

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:23 GMT)

Indians supporters saying that the ODI series win was Perfect revenge for the 'pathetic' test series loss is very funny. The 3 test losses were of epic proportions which can only be compared if they bowl out England for less than 100 or something. Nevertheless, india has played well in ODIs. As a england supporter, watching england in ODI is Depressing. I hope Cook makes way for younger players, morgan should be able to take up captaincy for WC as there is still 2-3 series and 5 months time. To be competitive in ODIs, engand really have to change their whole mentality the way they approach the game. The Powerplay at the Top, allRounder debacle. The openers should be able to giving flying starts OR, if have slow starts then at least bat through the 30-35 overs to let the likes of morgan and buttler to play their natural game. I hope india wins the next game handsomely, only then the board will have to hard think about the issue of team selection & captaincy. Need radical change. Period!

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:22 GMT)

I can't believe this.exactly the same way India performed in the test matches. now England are being humiliated by hands of India.expected a bit more fight from a strong and balanced team like England.it was just like a piece of cake for india.

Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (September 2, 2014, 16:17 GMT)

Congrats to India. I am happy that India won the series with one more game left. But I still cannot forget India's test failure. Mr. Cook said they played bad cricket after tests and he doesn't know why. IMO ( and I am not pessimnistic and not taking credit away from ENG players) ENG played same cricket right from first test match but India was the one which just gave up the last 3 test matches (especailly batting and fielding). ENG's expectations in ODIs went high only because of India's failure in last 3 test matches. ENG players performed well in tests but not so good to win the series. I still think India hasn't reached top level yet. This young Indian team is prone to inconsistent performance.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:15 GMT)

Whatever problems India's test team had it seems to be long forgotten, despite the ODI side being made up of largely the same bunch of players. Looking good for the WC with form like this.

Posted by Temuzin on (September 2, 2014, 16:14 GMT)

MS and his team are champs. They were winning tests too till ICC demoralized them with anderson fiasco. Now they are back. Go MSD go.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:13 GMT)

england will need 2 make vast changes if they want to have any chance in d upcoming world cup..first of all cook should b dropped from odi's n bring talented players like Roy,taylor,bopara..or else they will face d same situation as india n pakistan faced in 2007 wc..

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:09 GMT)

its good india is winning but winning five one-day matches is equal to winning one test match in that india has to win 10 onedays against england in a row to level the tour :P

Posted by sweet2hrme on (September 2, 2014, 16:04 GMT)

Seriously! All these English Players should take a retirement from ODI's except 2 or 3 Players.Their Leader Mr. Cook himself not a ODI Player. See their team Performance 227 last ODI, Today 206 All Out...Last five Ovrs 13/4 RR: 2.6 ...something..HANG ON..Last ODI Remaining ..They can show even worst performance. What a same !! they even cant fight in their own home country. So what we can expect in WORLD CUP.They dnt Know How to Play SPIN OR FAST especially when it comes to ODI. Mr.Michael Vaughan is RIGHT!!!! They Cant win WORLD CUP BY THIS TEAM. YESSSSSSSSS !!!!!BIG CHANGE IS NEEDED FROM TOP TO BOTTOM ....!!

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:01 GMT)

Well done India, Win the series. Now Dhoni take rest in the next game and give a chance to Sanju Samson. And hope Virat kohli will lead india.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 16:00 GMT)

Ind didn't win any match last time around but has not lost any this time around.

WHY ?????

The main difference b/w ODI team that toured Eng last time and this time is the absence of Dravid. Similarly as Ind removed Dravid from ODI Ind won VB 2008 series in Aus then won & won & finally won WC.

Hence it is evident Dravid's slow SR was the primary reason of Indian poor performance in ODI. His slow SR put extra pressure on his partners causing them to slog & would get out in the process. Finally Dravid would do consolidation job at very slow SR taking away all the momentum from Indian inns.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 16:00 GMT)

Loll...The decline of English cricket started the day kevin peterson retired and undoubtfully he stands out to be the best player England has had in 2 decades..got to blame yourself ECB for such a huge loss!

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 15:58 GMT)

Loll...The decline of English cricket started the day kevin peterson retired and undoubtfully he stands out to be the best player England has had in 2 decades..got to blame yourself ECB for such a huge loss!

Posted by Percy_Fender on (September 2, 2014, 15:56 GMT)

This game will show more than anything else that Anderson Broad and Co can perform well only when the weather is typically English. If one goes back to the Tests at Lord's, India lost the toss and were asked to bat. Despite the greenest wicket ever seen at this iconic ground. India battled it out with Pujara holding the pace bowlers at bay for 3 hours.Though he scored only 28, the value of this innings is seldom talked about. As the conditions improved Rahane hit that brilliant counterattacking 100 helped by Bhuvi.In the 3rd Test, Dhoni won the toss on an absolute green top in overcast conditions and in what was shocking opted to bat. India were rolled over for 152 with Anderson and Broad being unplayable.In better conditions England made a big score and batted India out. At Old Trafford England won the toss and on a similar wet green top India were bowled out for 148.Jimmy and Broad were unplayable again. The point is that India lost 1-3 because of defensive play and captaincy

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:53 GMT)

i would like to see sanju sampson, karan sharma and umesh yadav playing the last odi, and the west indies one day series, dhoni can take rest in next match

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:53 GMT)

as long as cook play in odi cricket eng can't win any of the game,none of the english batsman qualify for odi cricket exept moen ali.england can't get off flying start in their 1st 10overs.ENG playing odi format same as test match

Posted by kartcric on (September 2, 2014, 15:49 GMT)

Electric_loco.Before commenting on India,first look at india-Srilanka head to head in tests and odis.See.how humiliating srilanka's record is!

Posted by Haleos on (September 2, 2014, 15:49 GMT)

@Yousufahmed1 - Well said. Mahela is a great test player but in ODI he is below par.

Posted by ZainE111 on (September 2, 2014, 15:48 GMT)

England need to wake up and realise that we are in 2014. ODI cricket has changed. You must either keep up with everyone else or face ever worsening humiliations like this.

Posted by Karthik78 on (September 2, 2014, 15:46 GMT)

Perfect revenge for test lossess.

Posted by luv_indo.cric on (September 2, 2014, 15:44 GMT)

time to give confirmation letter to rahane as the post of Opening Batsmen.not only rahane played with class but also he reduced pressure off dhawan. dhawan not gonna do it when it was rohit a selfish player i have seen.dhawan was out of the form so there need to be a opener who can rotate strike put up score board and taking pressure away from dhawan. finally got a consolation to the opening struggle. dhoni proved he is the boss by keep his faith in dhawan for the last time. proud again.roared again.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:42 GMT)

Chak de India...... England no where near.......

Posted by desiboy454 on (September 2, 2014, 15:37 GMT)

Anyone else besides me not missing Rohit Sharma? Rahane seems perfect at the top! Dhawan looked like his old self! Ahh this ODI team! wish test team had this much spark!! Lets go INDIA!!

Posted by Here_For_Good_Cricket on (September 2, 2014, 15:31 GMT)

An Excellent Innings from Rahane . I always felt he had class .. Now Dhoni you have found one good opener please dont ask Rohit Sharma to open again . Rohit , if he plays, should be playing as number 5 or Number 6 . The other opener slot should be filled by either dhawan/Vijay/Sanju ( try him) .

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:30 GMT)

This is almost as embarrassing as India were in the Test series.

Posted by 122notoutWestByfleet1996 on (September 2, 2014, 15:25 GMT)

I am actually glad England are getting hammered in this series. Swann was right, the tactics and selection policy is just completely wrong, stuck in the past, and I think a real shock to the system is needed for the selectors and management to realise this.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:15 GMT)

England is unBallanced and Ali lost his KO punch.

Posted by Temuzin on (September 2, 2014, 15:14 GMT)

@Karan Ranka : he is trying to prove that unless you are a bowler of Steyn's caliber, you are no better than an economic bowler in ODIs. Pace doesn't matter in ODIs because batsmen are good at using pace of the bowler. Umesh has been tried before in ODIs and has proven to be a burden.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:14 GMT)

India moving to comprehensive victory....Congos india...Some of english fans said We dont like short format,we are good in longer format.We indians agree that we are not good at longer format...But love all formats of cricket ...even we are not doing well....In shorter format we are doing well past two years compared to earlier.....

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (September 2, 2014, 15:13 GMT)


Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 15:11 GMT)

it is high time for England to give second thought to Alistair cook's captaincy,there are other able contenders,England is badly missing Stuart Broad in this ongoing odi series against India,other problem is non-availbilty of front line spinner and that will haunt their chances in world cup in Australia where wickets are true in nature.in my view England should hand over ODI captaincy to Broad and should find at least one genuine spinner apart from Moein Ali,all rounders are ok,batting is a bit of problem but that can also be sought out because many young talented boys r knocking the door,just get rid of Cook AND Bell.

Posted by SLslider on (September 2, 2014, 15:09 GMT)

What a Talent Rahane is !!! He is brilliant. We SL fans talk so much about Parera and Chandimal, Thirrimanne. Our youngsters don't even have 10% of the talent Rahane has. A SL fan.

Posted by Rajesh.Kumar on (September 2, 2014, 15:07 GMT)

It is a true display of character by our players to have been defeated so heavily in the tests, and then go on to play like champions (which they are) in ODIs. Things weren't that good in 2011 when they lost every test, every completed ODI, and also the T20 match. Great turn around by team India, and a good morale booster for the upcoming world cup. BCCI should arrange more ODIs for them, rather than tests. In my opinion, India should play test matches after WC15 is finished.

Posted by espncricinfomobile on (September 2, 2014, 15:06 GMT)

Seriously though how rubbish are England at ODI cricket as still trying to play the game like its 1990 or something. Zimbabwe would wipe the floor with England as even they have shown they have fight and a will to win. Oh well I'm glad England is in Australia's group anyway.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 14:59 GMT)

England missing broad

Posted by Rajesh.Kumar on (September 2, 2014, 14:58 GMT)

It was hilarious to read that 209 is a par score on this pitch. As I type this, both the openers have scored fifties and India are 127-0!!! So much for the par score. This one has become such a mismatch, then I am actually watching Aus-SA match, which is more of a match! Indian openers today showed how to play swinging ball in ODIs. They just concentrated on surviving initial 4-5 overs when India scored just 5 runs. And then they let loose when the ball stopped swinging. Given that all the nations have to participate in the ICC WC15 in a few months time, England's preparations seem to be in complete disarray. But they must not lose heart. I remember that just before 2003 WC played in SA, India traveled to NZ and lost in the tests 2-0 and in the ODIs 5-2. Even in the WC, their start wasn't that good, but they kept improving and reached the finals of WC03. Similarly, For England the way forward is identify a core group of players and try them out in whatever ODIs they play next.

Posted by RD_CricFan on (September 2, 2014, 14:56 GMT)

Excellent inning by Rahane. He eases the pressure of Dhawan and helped him to set his tuning

Posted by bumbles11 on (September 2, 2014, 14:55 GMT)

To be honest I was hoping India would smash England in this series.....even though they were embarrassingly bad in the Tests series. England need radical changes in batting and bowling if they are to have any chance of winning the CWC. Cook, Bell, Ballance and Root are Test players (although in Bell's case he needs to score runs...same for Cook as he only got 1 big score in the Test series). Roy, Taylor, Bopara, Wright should be playing and keep the rest. Anderson's ODI record isn't good, would retire him to keep him playing longer in Tests. Cook needs tap on shoulder, tahnks but NO thanks in limited overs cricket.

Posted by Yousufahmed1 on (September 2, 2014, 14:35 GMT)

@ electric_loco_WAP4 "209 could be par score on this tricky pitch" IND right now 99 for none. But being a SL fan who thinks Mahela is a Legend when he averages close to our No. 8 Jadeja, Knowledge of cricket is clearly not your strong point. LOL. Just couple of months back SL huffed and puffed to a series win and IND is doing without breaking into sweat. No wonder SL is miles behind IND and have lost 15 of the last 20 matches played between each other. LOL. Mahela = Jadeja(Except Jadeja can field for 50 overs and bowl 10 overs). LOL.

Posted by p3000g on (September 2, 2014, 14:30 GMT)

Shami getting wickets consisitently in the ODIs.. Wonder why he was not played in the last two tests instead of the wicketless wonder Pankaj Singh

Posted by looloogun on (September 2, 2014, 14:18 GMT)

people congratulating dhoni for reaching azhars record captaincy ..and true dhoni is going to end up just like azhar it seems so in the news just coming out ...

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 14:06 GMT)

Easy win for India, I predict.

Posted by Realistic_cri_fan on (September 2, 2014, 13:48 GMT)

Why was Stokes not in the team??He is in great form and if he is in the score might reach 300.I have a vision that Root will get a 5fer and India will lose by 100 runs...he..he..

Posted by Robin292 on (September 2, 2014, 13:26 GMT)

Electric Logo: STOP POSTING !! lol Understand the game..trundler Kumar as you call him, shows how to swing a ball. Ps. where is the Indian U 19 team? This really is not a contest.

Posted by 122notoutWestByfleet1996 on (September 2, 2014, 13:25 GMT)

@juice..... totally agree on Trego, why he has not been an ever present in England one day teams over the past few years I have no idea.

Posted by wapuser on (September 2, 2014, 13:14 GMT)

As my predictions, India is winning one day series.

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (September 2, 2014, 13:08 GMT)

@JG2704-You're not picking on Buttler,are you?Harsh,must say.Until sawn off by ump. he just about performed his brief.Which was to play able support to Moen,playing as he was to put a 50 p'ship.Cant expect to be aggresive how Eng 'top' order went,can you?

Posted by pom_don on (September 2, 2014, 13:07 GMT)

And Cook will still keep his place in the team as captain & Moores will still keep his job along with the rest of the 'hangers on'

Posted by Charlie101 on (September 2, 2014, 12:57 GMT)

What a disaster , we are going to have to bowl extremely well to have a glimmer of a chance

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (September 2, 2014, 12:50 GMT)

Have not until now caught up with much of the game.But I heard Eng were really near down and out early esp. v new ball until Moeen played good rescue act.Eng have just now ended @ 209.Given help trundler Bhuvi got,could be par score on this tricky pitch.

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (September 2, 2014, 12:43 GMT)

Terrible,toothless performance by a top ranked team like england....

Posted by IMCG67 on (September 2, 2014, 12:42 GMT)

Another way below par score by England - there will no doubt be much tinkering before the World Cup but whilst Alistair Cook is opening the batting line up will always lack any edge and it's not as if he is a mastermind captain in ODIs to justify selection ! Regardless of the outcome of the series (4-0 is likely) the selectors will still persist in the current direction which will sadly get them nowhere ! If any evidence is required - the top 4 of SA, Australia and even India are light years ahead of England and the winner will come from there ! Hales excepted more fire is needed - give Roy, Vince a go if experience is needed I would go with Bell not Cook but wouldn't necessarily choose either !

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 12:38 GMT)

todays pitch was not much spinner friendly. now what was the cause of england downfall. any excuse??

Posted by philipg33 on (September 2, 2014, 12:37 GMT)

Time for Cook to stepdown Probably moores too If the ECB really wanted to win this worldcup Pietersen would be captain Why have they dropped tredwell? And why is Anderson playing? Why is cook playing

Its so frustrating that england have gone back to the 90s

Posted by bobmartin on (September 2, 2014, 12:32 GMT)

Except for Ali.. and Buttler... who was triggered in an all too often outrageous howler....another pathetic display by the England batters.. All this talk from Cooke and managemnt about the World Cup is just tripe... With this lot there's about as much chance of winning that as making ice cream in a furnace..

Posted by bobbo2 on (September 2, 2014, 12:31 GMT)

England are to One a Day cricket what India is to Test cricket. Hopeless.

Posted by Sinha_le on (September 2, 2014, 12:29 GMT)

England deserves a walloping.. With a selfish captain who thinks about him only and not about the greater interest of the English cricket.. Selfish Cook who wants to keep his captaincy at any cost.. His selfishness and yes man to the new incapable coach makes it worse

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (September 2, 2014, 12:21 GMT)

well said JG. Roy Hales Trego Patel Morgan Root Buttler Ali Broad Tredwell Finn/Anderson/Jordan If we're going down we might as well lose to a blaze of big shots and bowl slower so the opposition have to actually hit us aggressively to the ropes.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 12:19 GMT)

In olden days players seldom go to nets on match days.Neither they used to play football or basketball for fitness.Ask Gavaskar if he believed in net practice or too much of physio?

Posted by JG2704 on (September 2, 2014, 12:12 GMT)

What has happened to Buttler?

He was put above Ali in the batting order which I thought would free him up a bit but he's as bad as the rest of them as far as intent goes. He no longer looks busy at the crease and looks very timid - more scared of losing his wicket than looking to assert himself. It also makes it easier for a bowler to bowl to and a captain to set a field for. You take away Buttler's intent and he becomes less than half the player

Posted by vsprabhu01 on (September 2, 2014, 12:05 GMT)

I don't like this strategy of bowling spinners in power play, unless you have variations and consistency of Sunil Naraine or Saeed Ajmal. Even in Aus, we need fast bowlers to bowl in power play and our team management not even figured out who will bowl for them and to do that u need to put them in match situation. But really pathetic that only one over was given to pace bowler. Also Suresh raina can bowl 2-3 overs in a match and in Aus against more dangerous batsmen, we need fast bowlers with enough exposure of bowling yorkers in powerplays. Also i don't see any of the current fast bowlers bowling yorkers except Aaron who is not in the squad.

Posted by JG2704 on (September 2, 2014, 10:30 GMT)

Brilliant move to get rid of Tredwell - the one bowler who has consistently kept a lid on the opposition's scoring rate. What's wrong with the idea of going with just 3 pacemen and 2 spinners?

England deserve the thrashing they're likely to get

Posted by JG2704 on (September 2, 2014, 10:27 GMT)

@Aaqib Javed on (September 2, 2014, 9:27 GMT) He certainly proved his value

Posted by ajay50usa on (September 2, 2014, 10:23 GMT)

England lost 3 wickets already. So, don't complain too much guys!

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 10:22 GMT)

bhuvi was consistent ,,, agree. . I wonder why no chance for umesh. .

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 10:22 GMT)

First you keep aaron out of test and give opportunity to a 30 yr old medium pacer and than in ODI you dont pick Umesh yadav instead give chance to dhaval kulkarni another medium pacer. What are they trying to prove ?

These two are geniune fast bowlers and are itching to play each and every match. First time in the history of indian cricket they have an oppurtunity to play to genuine fast bowlers and that also in conditions like england and kulkarnis, sharmas and singhs can get all the chances of playing in subcontinent but these pitches are made for yadav and aaron. Both should have played in this series the team management could have tried a genuine fast bowling attack keeping in mind the world cup in Aus.

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 10:10 GMT)

Why not Sanju or Umesh? Why Kularni who gave away most of the runs already in 2 overs -.-

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 10:10 GMT)

what's with MSD's logic of using military medium pacers even when he has a genuine fast-bowler at his disposal. He looked like a much improved bowler recently!!!

Posted by Bobby9q on (September 2, 2014, 10:08 GMT)

Wow!! what a spell by bhuvi, he ripped through England top order. Definitely India will beat England 4-0. Come on India.

Posted by android_user on (September 2, 2014, 9:52 GMT)

so they have strongly decided to not to play umesh yadhav at any cost... wow talk about giving opportunities

Posted by vsprabhu01 on (September 2, 2014, 9:34 GMT)

Umesh Yadav - Why he is not in the eleven??? Is Indian Team management very keen to not to get him in the eleven at any cost??? You are looking for out and out fast bowler and yet one of your quick(Aaron) is not in the squad and another one (Umesh) was not given chance even as replacement .... Ridiculous ...

Posted by wapuser on (September 2, 2014, 9:30 GMT)

Sanju samson, where he is?? He is one of tje promising youngstar of indian cricket.. y cant dhoni gve him a chance instead of dhawan...

Posted by   on (September 2, 2014, 9:27 GMT)

Blessing in disguise for England, Ballance will get his chance to prove his value.

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