England news April 16, 2013

Pietersen out of New Zealand series

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Kevin Pietersen has been ruled out of the Test series against New Zealand after it was decided he needed further time to recover from his knee injury.

Pietersen was forced to miss the final Test in New Zealand last month and was diagnosed with bruising on his right knee. He has since been wearing a brace to aid his recovery - which he has yet to come out of - and will not be risked for the two-Test series, which starts on May 16, with his next target being the Champions Trophy in June although the ECB have not confirmed a new timescale.

Pietersen, who is currently in Dubai, tweeted: "Injuries are a sportsman's worst nightmare! This one is hurting me the most.."

When he flew home from New Zealand his recovery time was estimated at around eight weeks which always left it unlikely that he would be fit for the start of the international season.

An ECB statement said: "England and Surrey batsman Kevin Pietersen has been ruled out of the upcoming Investec Test series against New Zealand as he continues his recovery from significant bone bruising to his right knee. Pietersen will have a repeat scan next week to determine when he is able to resume training."

Pietersen first picked up the problem before England's warm-up match in Queenstown ahead of the Test series, possibly when he slipped during a fielding drill, and although he played the Tests in Dunedin and Wellington he was not fully fit.

Although there is still a month before the New Zealand series starts at Lord's on May 16, the ECB have taken an early decision on Pietersen's fitness which will avoid conjecture and allow the selectors to assess the form of his likely replacements in the County Championship.

Jonny Bairstow came in for him in Auckland, as the only spare batsman on tour, and struggled having played one first-class innings in seven months. If the selectors maintain consistency, Bairstow should be the first in line to play at Lord's although the next few weeks of Championship action will allow others to stake their claim.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • 2.14istherunrate on April 16, 2013, 12:40 GMT

    Sad to hear of this. I think a knee problem can turn quite nasty if not fixed right, so it is probably a good thing to rest for longer.Obviously I do not think he is remotely past his best as a player, though his body may not be so strong as it might be.

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Please England , now is the time we could try Woakes in at number 7 with Prior moving up to 6. Our 4 man attack has looked less penetrative in the last year and we have no established number 6. Also we have been getting more injuries to bowlers in the last 18 months.

    Final point , no matter how deep we bat , if weather interups matches like it usually does in May we need to bowl teams out faster and surely a 5 man attack would stand a better chance of accomplishing this.

    Go for the jugular , be brave

  • AKS286 on April 22, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    This Ashes'13 loss for Clarke's Australia will be a blessing for Australia because after that CA must take strong decisions and Senior axer clarke's captaincy and also his favourite boys will thrown out of the team. So, England not only win but also initiate a revolution in Clarke's Aus. Please Clarke go with Cowan, M.Waste, lyon, warner, starc,

  • AKS286 on April 22, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (April 22, 2013, 9:35 GMT) Fella what i want is to Root as a opening partner of Cook. Because Root is young and a future asset of Eng's captain. root is a natural opener along with cook he will groom & develop; and the Root after 3 years will become Banyan tree under the guidance of cook. One or two big centuries boost him too. If he bats at number six it most probably or it means that England is in 400 for 5 or 120 for 5, so expectations and batting don't groom alot. In Odis root batting order is no.6 which is a batting order of a finishers and sure he is not a finisher. The team i mentioned against NZ after resting i include C.Wright as a pace bowler and check out his bowling stats against durham. fella technique & temperament speaks all.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on April 22, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    @AKS286: "why not Morgan over Compton?" - Because there's no way I'd have Morgan opening, and Compton has shown his worth as opener alongside Cook. O.K. so you didn't mean for Morgan to open, and you would have Root instead? I think young Root has good temperament for middle/lower order rather than open; Bell is Bell... do like him, but even I'd have my doubts as to whether he could repeat his shorter-format heroics and take to opening in tests as well as he did in ODI's. As to your argument about all-rounders, I do agree with you that England are reluctant to groom enough. I like Bresnan too, but just like Broad his batting has fallen away and I've given up expecting runs off either's bats. Most of the others you've listed have either already been trialled and disappointed, and/or wouldn't be suitable for tests. Woakes deserves a decent chance, and why not now instead of half-way through the Ashes as an afterthought after England have once again failed to take 20 wickets?

  • AKS286 on April 21, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    @ R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (April 21, 2013, 5:52 GMT) Morgan over Root fella why not Morgan over Compton. Bresnan is better than Woakes. and also Eng lost & don't take the optimum use of their all-rounders (Except great Freddie). Ealham, Craig White, R.Clarke, L.Wright,Bresnan etc. Fella what about Dravid, Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting, Atherton, Thorpe, Laxman, Inzamam, Md.Yousaf, Amla, Kallis, AB, Clarke, Hooper, Langer, Slater, Shivy, Kirstan, Hudson, Cook, Bell, etccccc.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on April 21, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    @AKS286: so by your logic ("the whole world is looking for technique & temperament, [es]pecially in test format...") - many great/popular players like Warne, Gilchrist, KP, Dhoni etc. should never have played? They're not/weren't exactly text-book orthodox technique... It's also interesting that you put the likes of Hughes in your Aus. team and still insist Woakes would struggle against them. Temperament is important though, hence I'd prefer Root over say, Morgan.

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    @JG2704 Not only for me fella but the whole world is looking for technique & temperament Specially in test format. Shivy is having temperament and foot work technique, and choosing one exception in the galaxy is not an example. If Oz will select their best team then Woakes will becomes Jokes. if clarke's boys are in the squad then go for Woakes. Eng- Cook, Root, Trott, KP, Bell, Taylor, MP, Swanny, Finn, Jimmy, Broad. Aus- Klinger, Hughes, Marsh, Clarke, Forrest/Ferguson, Watson, Haddin, MJ, Siddle, Bird, Boyce

  • JG2704 on April 19, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    @AKS - No disrespect but Suppiah played India in 2011 and was playing much better back then - he barely made the team last year and on that tour probably anyone who was in half decent form could score a ton vs that Indian attack. Bresnan nearly did As for temperament Nick showed enormous amounts of that for Somerset last year and when he was according to the press on borrowed time in NZ. Personally I think technique can be overrated and whatever works for you ...

    Look at someone like Bell who has a textbook array of shots but is often found wanting and someone like Shiv who stands in a manner that no coaching manual would coach but it's effective for him. If we go 5/1/5 I'd say battingwise Woakes is way ahead of all our all rounder candidates

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    and also remember Suppiah's century against Indians when they toured Eng. Somerset vs Indians.

  • 2.14istherunrate on April 16, 2013, 12:40 GMT

    Sad to hear of this. I think a knee problem can turn quite nasty if not fixed right, so it is probably a good thing to rest for longer.Obviously I do not think he is remotely past his best as a player, though his body may not be so strong as it might be.

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 11:07 GMT

    Please England , now is the time we could try Woakes in at number 7 with Prior moving up to 6. Our 4 man attack has looked less penetrative in the last year and we have no established number 6. Also we have been getting more injuries to bowlers in the last 18 months.

    Final point , no matter how deep we bat , if weather interups matches like it usually does in May we need to bowl teams out faster and surely a 5 man attack would stand a better chance of accomplishing this.

    Go for the jugular , be brave

  • AKS286 on April 22, 2013, 16:05 GMT

    This Ashes'13 loss for Clarke's Australia will be a blessing for Australia because after that CA must take strong decisions and Senior axer clarke's captaincy and also his favourite boys will thrown out of the team. So, England not only win but also initiate a revolution in Clarke's Aus. Please Clarke go with Cowan, M.Waste, lyon, warner, starc,

  • AKS286 on April 22, 2013, 11:23 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (April 22, 2013, 9:35 GMT) Fella what i want is to Root as a opening partner of Cook. Because Root is young and a future asset of Eng's captain. root is a natural opener along with cook he will groom & develop; and the Root after 3 years will become Banyan tree under the guidance of cook. One or two big centuries boost him too. If he bats at number six it most probably or it means that England is in 400 for 5 or 120 for 5, so expectations and batting don't groom alot. In Odis root batting order is no.6 which is a batting order of a finishers and sure he is not a finisher. The team i mentioned against NZ after resting i include C.Wright as a pace bowler and check out his bowling stats against durham. fella technique & temperament speaks all.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on April 22, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    @AKS286: "why not Morgan over Compton?" - Because there's no way I'd have Morgan opening, and Compton has shown his worth as opener alongside Cook. O.K. so you didn't mean for Morgan to open, and you would have Root instead? I think young Root has good temperament for middle/lower order rather than open; Bell is Bell... do like him, but even I'd have my doubts as to whether he could repeat his shorter-format heroics and take to opening in tests as well as he did in ODI's. As to your argument about all-rounders, I do agree with you that England are reluctant to groom enough. I like Bresnan too, but just like Broad his batting has fallen away and I've given up expecting runs off either's bats. Most of the others you've listed have either already been trialled and disappointed, and/or wouldn't be suitable for tests. Woakes deserves a decent chance, and why not now instead of half-way through the Ashes as an afterthought after England have once again failed to take 20 wickets?

  • AKS286 on April 21, 2013, 14:36 GMT

    @ R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (April 21, 2013, 5:52 GMT) Morgan over Root fella why not Morgan over Compton. Bresnan is better than Woakes. and also Eng lost & don't take the optimum use of their all-rounders (Except great Freddie). Ealham, Craig White, R.Clarke, L.Wright,Bresnan etc. Fella what about Dravid, Lara, Tendulkar, Ponting, Atherton, Thorpe, Laxman, Inzamam, Md.Yousaf, Amla, Kallis, AB, Clarke, Hooper, Langer, Slater, Shivy, Kirstan, Hudson, Cook, Bell, etccccc.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on April 21, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    @AKS286: so by your logic ("the whole world is looking for technique & temperament, [es]pecially in test format...") - many great/popular players like Warne, Gilchrist, KP, Dhoni etc. should never have played? They're not/weren't exactly text-book orthodox technique... It's also interesting that you put the likes of Hughes in your Aus. team and still insist Woakes would struggle against them. Temperament is important though, hence I'd prefer Root over say, Morgan.

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    @JG2704 Not only for me fella but the whole world is looking for technique & temperament Specially in test format. Shivy is having temperament and foot work technique, and choosing one exception in the galaxy is not an example. If Oz will select their best team then Woakes will becomes Jokes. if clarke's boys are in the squad then go for Woakes. Eng- Cook, Root, Trott, KP, Bell, Taylor, MP, Swanny, Finn, Jimmy, Broad. Aus- Klinger, Hughes, Marsh, Clarke, Forrest/Ferguson, Watson, Haddin, MJ, Siddle, Bird, Boyce

  • JG2704 on April 19, 2013, 13:38 GMT

    @AKS - No disrespect but Suppiah played India in 2011 and was playing much better back then - he barely made the team last year and on that tour probably anyone who was in half decent form could score a ton vs that Indian attack. Bresnan nearly did As for temperament Nick showed enormous amounts of that for Somerset last year and when he was according to the press on borrowed time in NZ. Personally I think technique can be overrated and whatever works for you ...

    Look at someone like Bell who has a textbook array of shots but is often found wanting and someone like Shiv who stands in a manner that no coaching manual would coach but it's effective for him. If we go 5/1/5 I'd say battingwise Woakes is way ahead of all our all rounder candidates

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    and also remember Suppiah's century against Indians when they toured Eng. Somerset vs Indians.

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    @JG2704 I put Suppiah instead of compton and against Ind in sub- continent, which one is the better choice in India.... no one knows because Indian tour file closed Buddy. First i look at the technique & temperament before the records. Because international level wants T & T not records.

  • JG2704 on April 19, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    @AKS - I'm going by what he's consistently producing in the CC - Better than most - if not all the number 6 candidates with the bat - and consistently taking wickets at a decent average etc.

    Surely his performances and stats make him worth a punt at number 7 with Prior playing at 6 , no?

    OK he may fail and be found wanting up a level but his overall stats would be better than all the all rounder candidates.

    Just wondering on what basis you are writing Woakes off as not being good enough or how you think Bres may be good enough but Woakes not?

    Please don't say because Bres has done it before for England because until Woakes is tried you can't compare the 2 on that level

    BTW Is it not you who has continually put Suppiah in the Eng side in the past year or so?

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    Cook, KP, Bell, Trott, Prior, Jimmy must need rest specially prior he played BBL too.

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    @Posted by JG2704 on (April 19, 2013, 8:39 GMT) I'm not ignoring Woakes. But he is not enough for Ashes. I've doubt in Compton also. Compton, Cook, Trott, KP, Bell, Root, Prior, Swann, Jimmy, Finn, Broad- This is the side which will take on Oz- I'm Right thats fine. Onion, Meaker are the back benchers where Woakes fit in this squad. and also the role of Woakes is what? as a third seamer or all rounder. As a 3rd seamer is a joke for Eng Woakes will be thrashed by Oz (if good team play if same squad which played in india then Woakes is fine) if not then by other teams. as an all rounder no place for him. and also we saw Woakes during Ind tour (limited over) not impressive at all.

  • JG2704 on April 19, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    @AKS286 on (April 19, 2013, 6:14 GMT) What's wrong with trying Woakes?

    Surely if we want to go for an all rounder Woakes stats stack up better than anyone for England since ITB. If he fails , he fails but it's like Compton - how can you ignore a player who in 2012 did it for his county with both bat and ball - esp when the number 6 (he'd prob play 7 with MP at 6) batsman is not nailed on. What more does he need to do?

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    IMO dernbach is the best option of 3rd seamer in test... yes. because he is muscular, fast, aggressive which are required in test. off course he will learn the line & length. He is the person who can extract bounce in sub- continent also.

  • AKS286 on April 19, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    The concentration & focus will be on ASHES. not on NZ win, loss, draw against NZ did't bother anything. Rest your busy players.take this series as a warm up of back benchers. Bresnan is fine don't overrate woakes.

  • The_bowlers_Holding on April 19, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    I agree with a number of posters on Woakes in a 5 man attack, he is a very capable batsman and the genuine long term all rounder prospect that would give balance to the side; he is also from the Midlands. New Zealand should not be underestimated as they seem settled now with fresh young talent, and I am sure they will not be the 'bottom ranked test team' by the time Galacticos tour there.

  • Lmaotsetung on April 18, 2013, 9:45 GMT

    In the next IPL every player goes back into the auction. Dec-Jan Ashes may well be KP's last hurrah in an England uniform. A $2 mil IPL contract + Big Bash + SA (whatever it's called) may prove just as lucrative as an England contract and it's less work.

  • JG2704 on April 18, 2013, 7:41 GMT

    @Shan156 - 100% with you as you know.

    I've always thought (with what we have) 5/1/5 was the best way to go. Even vs India in 2011 when we won 4-0 , I don't think 5/1/5 would have affected the margin in a negative way. I started commenting on here in between Ind and UAE and said as much then. In UAE although (bar test 1) our bowling was decent , I felt due to the lack of our batsmen performing we'd not have lost much by dropping one for a bowler to make our bowling even more potent.Vs WI our attack started to struggle as you put and even vs SA in tests 2/3 we had times of ascendancy where our bowlers couldn't quite get through guys like VP.JB did great at 6 in the 3rd test but for me that's more the exception than the rule itself. As we both know it will not happen under the current regime but with a one paced batting line up it seems we only have 1 gameplan for winning. Slowly bat the other team out of the game and hope the bowlers do the biz and the weather allows time.

  • Shan156 on April 17, 2013, 20:13 GMT

    @JG2704, this would be the best time for England to try a 5 man bowling attack but, sadly, I don't think it will happen:-( I posted elsewhere about the worrying lack of potency among our pacemen since last summer. Even in the WI series, our bowlers struggled a lot with Samuels, Sammy, and even Tino Best, having fun. Even though we won the series 2-0, I thought our bowlers were struggling at times. In May, Swann, if he plays, is not likely to have much of an impact. With Broad and Finn not being in the best of form (despite each picking 6 wickets in an innings in NZ), and only Anderson to be relied upon, I think it is high time that Eng. shelve their 4 bowler strategy and give a chance to the men warming the bench. Woakes would be good but I am think we should try Onions too. Granted he performed poorly in the NZ warmups but he will be a different bowler in early season England.

  • JG2704 on April 17, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (April 17, 2013, 13:51 GMT) I think we both accept KP's indifferent form but we get folk saying that missing him was the reason we lost against SA and drew against NZ. The truth is that he played in 2 of the 3 tests in both series.

    Anyway , one thing I think we all agree on (both fans,detractors and neutrals) is that KP is the only top order batsman who seems capable of pushing the game forward - esp in weather shortened games I'd say Woakes (not that they'll go for it) is the best compromise if they considered a 5/1/5 . If we're going by last years stats he's at least as capable as any of the other number 6 candidates although time will tell if he can maintain it this year.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on April 17, 2013, 13:51 GMT

    @JG2704: Be it Woakes, or heck even another frontline bowler in the likes of Onions, I totally agree with you that England have to try something different. Yeah the batting's potentially dented without KP, but I also said during the series in NZ about how frustrating KP can be and has failed at times of need just as much (perhaps seemingly more at times) than the other batsmen. Some players are immune to criticism here; others like Magic Monty get slated for his batting and fielding, despite bowling beautifully which is what he is picked for! Test cricket is about taking 20 wickets, and England haven't looked like they can do this of late. Batting-wise I like Cook, Compton, Trott, Bell, Prior and Root, and anything else is just a bonus. P.S. One replacement crystal ball needed here! Send quotes now.

  • AKS286 on April 17, 2013, 13:42 GMT

    @Posted by guptahitesh4u on (April 17, 2013, 7:00 GMT) Fella Eng beat Aus in Odis without KP. The team is not dependable on one man its a game of combined effort. @Posted by Vinod_Fab on (April 17, 2013, 6:01 GMT) what you have said about Amla, Clarke, Cook, Kallis is not true. first define us what is the meaning of "impact innings" I know that these players are Match winners, Match Scorers & Match Savours consistently than any other cricketer.

  • JG2704 on April 17, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    @Vinod_Fab on (April 17, 2013, 6:01 GMT) Listen my main points are that KP is one of those players that will look woeful and as soon as you doubt him he'll turn on a masterclass. Then you think he's in form he'll look poor the next inns. My post with all his scores since SL I think says it all. Yes if the KP that bludgeoned the SA bowlers about turned up for the 3rd test we'd likely have won in but who's to say the KP that scored 42 and 16 wouldn't have turned up? I'm sorry if my posts are not coming across as sensible to you but KP is by his very nature a player I'd never totally back or back against either

  • JG2704 on April 17, 2013, 9:48 GMT

    @cric_J on (April 17, 2013, 3:38 GMT) I agree that KP is the only top order batsman who can win matches because of his SR etc and yes he is going to be a big loss. This is one of many reasons why I feel (in likely weather interrupted tests in UK) we should go 5/1/5. My posts are not meant to come across as anti KP - just to say that he can be ordinary just like anyone else

  • AKS286 on April 17, 2013, 8:56 GMT

    injury for KP is bad but the good thing that he will take rest before ashes. swanny, bresnan are injured too. And also cook, trott, bell, jimmy, prior need rest before ashes. and this NZ tour is the good test of back benchers specially for pacers. my team (after rest)- Root, Compton, J.Taylor, E.Morgan, Carberry/Denly, Bairstow (WK), Wayne White, C.Wright, Broad (C), Onion, panesar.

  • JG2704 on April 17, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    @ Meety on (April 17, 2013, 6:59 GMT) Mate , I'm just going by what I see. The Indian series where he looked even worse than Bell in the 1st test and then majestic in the second is what I see. I'm surprised at the blog that shows different because the figures I quoted from the last year or so do show a deviation to my mind. Re the NZ series - we'll have to see. I think with a 6/1/4 formation and without KP we could be vulnerable but can NZ continue from where they left off in their home series

  • guptahitesh4u on April 17, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    England Can't win a series without firepower of KP!!

  • Meety on April 17, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    @JG2704 on (April 16, 2013, 16:46 GMT) - read an article on this site under a Blog called IT Figures (number crunching) - it came about that KP has about the lowest standard deviation of modern batsmen, meaning he is very consistant! Surprised me no end as I tended to think he was a genius one match & grade hack the next! == == == As far as the series is concerned, someone commented a while back (during the WIndies series), that England have necer lost a May Test series & tend to win by a long way at that time of the year. NZ COULD be the side to buck the trend as they CAN have May-like weather thru out their summer. IF, I had to part with my last buck, I would put it on England, but IF Bracewell is fit - I think England could have a lot of hairy moments! @ HatsforBats on (April 16, 2013, 12:05 GMT) - I think any Ozzy that watched the last test series between Oz & NZ would have a fair bit of respect for Bracewell (I know I do!)- hope he is 100% fit!

  • Vinod_Fab on April 17, 2013, 6:01 GMT

    @JG2704.. May be you didn't had crystal ball to see but SA wud have loved to see that...I don't know about others but at the time of 3rd test i was pretty sure that KP wud have won that test and even i was that much pretty sure that ENG wud bowl SA out twice.. Only Matty was playing at his best.. Now that is past.. ENG paid heavily for it.. I went through ur comments in many cricinfo article and found it to be really sensible but i am afraid for this one you are not that much sensible in it.. I do accept like he is lil inconsistent but with his batting technique he is ought to be like that..KP compensates each and every time by playing 1 or 2 series clinching innings and i am pretty amazed from his debut series like how this man delivers whenever der is huge and i mean huge pressure on him to perform..Players like Amla,Clarke,Cook,Kallis are consistent but even they don't have this skill of performing(impact innings) when chips are down. But i do really want KP to be consistent..

  • kiwicricketnut on April 17, 2013, 3:59 GMT

    England have already proven without pietersen they're a tough nut to crack, this wont worry England much, even though its good news for NZ, one less class act to dismiss they have quality cover. If NZ are smart and play four seamers we can win, Williamson is good enough to handle the spin bowlers role if needed, great swing bowlers in southee and boult, add wagner and gillespie to the mix and there is quality to scare Englands batters, infact i think our bowlers hold a mental advantage over there batsmen at the moment, wheather they can handle a duke ball remains to be seen. Our batters are nowhere near as good as englands so our bowlers are our only chance, four seamers is a far more attacking option.

  • on April 17, 2013, 3:52 GMT

    Kevin Pietersen is a genuine hitter of ball irrespective of the game being Test match,one Dayers or T-20 game.he had been instrumental for England for winning many matches in the past..now he is ruled out against NZ series also due to knee injury.

    The most affected team from his injury is,however, the Delhi DareDevils in the IPL FORMAT currently in progress in India.Out of the 5 matches they played so far,success is eluding them like a nightmare for want of Batsmen.Warner & Sehwag look waste until now.Pietersen could have been handy& useful for them.DDD is after all not such a bad team! SreedharanM.

  • cric_J on April 17, 2013, 3:38 GMT

    @JG2704 - I totally agree with you that KP is not the only skillful player in the England team and scores a poor 5 on 10 when it comes to consistency. Also I am not a big KP fan and am not one to overlook his failures in UAE etc.But I am sure you won't deny that England look a much tougher side to beat with KP than without him. People like Cook and Trott can SAVE test matches if the team is in trouble. But KP can actually WIN you such matches if he is on song. To say that he has been England's best batsman in the last 10 yrs would not be totally correct , but he has definitely been the most impactful one. The fact that 3 of the best test innings last year came from him (153,149 and 186 v/s SL, SA and Ind)and that England didn't lose any one of those matches says something about the man.In fact the only time Steyn looked in trouble throughout the series was when KP kept whackin the ball over his head in classic style. And being an Indian I know perfectly what a class act that 186 was.

  • 22many on April 16, 2013, 23:47 GMT

    Eion Morgan for me.....couldnt understand why he didnt stay on in NZ...

  • philknight on April 16, 2013, 23:38 GMT

    I would like to say it is a shame that there will be no KP, but as a NZ fan I am glad England have one less match winner. One name that England fans should keep an eye on is Mark Gillespie. He is a proven wicket taker and the battle for the third(or fourth?) seamer spot(s) will be interesting on this tour. Last year, Gillespie took a lot of wickets against the South Africans, but has struggled for fitness since then. I am reading Bracewell's name mentioned on here and I still remember his Hobart exploits fondly. However, his test form (and bad luck around glass) has been disappointing since then, apart from two significant wickets in our Sri Lankan win. Therefore, the two biggest questions for me are whether we play a spinner or all seam attack, and who to pick to support Boult and Southee.

  • RednWhiteArmy on April 16, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    NZ & australia will get whitewashed in England, end of discussion.

  • wgtnpom on April 16, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    Are the ECB having a laugh? "England and Surrey batsman" ha ha ha. Don't think Surrey should be relying on him this season...

  • axe_hay on April 16, 2013, 21:39 GMT

    Get James Taylor or Jimmy Hildreth to replace KP. They are the best available replacements for KP. Bairstow has not been upto the mark at the test level, struggling often. Taylor and Hildreth have been very consistent in the past few seasons. Though Taylor has been with England Lions, its strange that despite close to 10000 first class runs , Jimmy Hildreth has always been ignored by the selectors.He is one middle order bat England need in the squad at the moment.

  • Sandeepbachhal on April 16, 2013, 20:57 GMT

    Finger crossed for the ashes.. I wanna c u in this ashes..to lift the most beautifull trophy wud b great.

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 20:09 GMT

    @Vinod_Fab on (April 16, 2013, 19:03 GMT) PS actually KP was there for the 1st test vs SA which we lost by an inns and scored 42 and 16.

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    @Vinod_Fab on (April 16, 2013, 19:03 GMT) Sorry mate , I just didn't have the crystal ball to see what KP would have scored in the 3rd test if he had played. I was kind of going on what Johnny scored in that particular test and by KP's scoring patterns. EG since SL his scores have been 32,13,80,78 vs WI 42,16,149 , 12 vs SA , 2,17,186,54,3,73,6 vs India and 0,12 and 73 vs NZ which to me shows brilliance at times but little consistency. Sorry , yes he scored 70 odd in the 4th test 1st inns and then scored 6 in the second inns which I think emphasises what I'm saying about him stringing a run of good scores together .

  • Maxyboy_123 on April 16, 2013, 19:59 GMT

    Injury or not, I'm convinced KP will retire from international duty after the ashes down under. He will have 100 test caps by then and maybe those ashes serieses will be his legacy? It's not as if he has to hang around to set batting records. Alastair Cook is likely to end up setting records that probably won't be beaten in my lifetime. I hope I'm wrong!

  • on April 16, 2013, 19:32 GMT

    Excellent news, will give another chance to Bairstow.

  • Vinod_Fab on April 16, 2013, 19:03 GMT

    @JG2704..Hold on..!!.. I do accept like in UAE(test matches) he was woeful but KP did responded with back 2 back tons in ODI's against PAK and ENG did needed tht whitewash and de 4th ODI was single handedly won by KP wic eventually resulted in whitewash..Now the SA series- You have mentioned bairstow scores right??. Then y didn't he won 3rd test match for ENG.??.KP like he did in SL wud have won de test had he been picked for the final test..And in IND you were talking about that 186, did you ever noticed that 70 odd wic he made during 4th test.. ?? Wickets were falling like pack of cards and still out of 130 odd wic ENG made he scored 70 of them wic eventually helped root and prior to build de partnership.. Orelse it wud have been 2-2 then and there.. Now NZ Series-- Despite being injured he scored 70 odd in 2nd test match,may be not as good but was ok in context of that match.. 2011 WC-- ENG lost in QF(KP was not der) then lost #1 to SA(KP was not der),2012 T20 Loss(KP was not der)

  • 2.14istherunrate on April 16, 2013, 17:45 GMT

    One of the things which came out of Aukland was the fact that the batting with no KP and Bell going stodgey (in 1st inns-I have no objection to his 2nd inns.) had no forward momentum. Trott until Prior was actually the fastest scorer. The innings has to go forward. Obviously Bairstow had no match practise, but theoretically he was the most likely to hit the boundary often. For Lords I think England have to fit in a couple of strokemakers. Hopefully Bairstow will have had match practice by then, but I would also stick in another.

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    @Hira1 on (April 16, 2013, 17:02 GMT) I don't hate KP at all. When he's on song he's one of the most attractive batsmen in the worls to watch. My points are aimed at people who seem to intimate Eng are a one man team. Those who gloss over his failures and others successes and gloss over others successes and magnify their failures. Some were blaming Eng for KP missing IPL but the truth is he has played less cricket for Eng than any other regular batsman since his recall. Hope he recovers in time for the Ashes

  • Hira1 on April 16, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    Its very very sad that he wont be available for NZ series but I hope he is fit for the champions' trophy, cricket is so boring without him and @JG2704 KP is a kind of a player whom you either love or hate one cant simply ignore him therefore there are fans like me who whether he fails or succeed like to see him playing and same way there are others who no matter how well he does likes to criticize him

  • SirViv1973 on April 16, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    @Landl47, I would agree that the black caps strength is their seam attack & that their batting is a bit suspect. Arguably their 2 best batsman are Mcullum & Taylor both of whom have IPL contracts. I'm assuming that as capt BM will lead the side in both tests but does anyone know if he will play either of the warm up games? also is Taylor available for the first test or either of the warm up games? as this could have an effect on NZL chances.

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 16:46 GMT

    @ clarke501/ Selassie - To be fair , I can see SW's point. Since his return he played only one of the 4 shorter format series and did not play in the T20 WC previous to his recall. KP however defies logic. He is the one batsman who can one day look so inept at the crease and the next time he looks majestic

  • JG2704 on April 16, 2013, 16:44 GMT

    Please publish the below comment. I know everyone loves KP but not everything he touches is gold and he is not the only quality player Eng have

    @anuradha_d on (April 16, 2013, 9:44 GMT) Agreed that he is a big loss but it's amazing how people remember his innings vs SA (which put us in a great position in that test) and his inns vs SL which helped win that test and his inns vs India in the 2nd test which helped win that test but actually forget that he was woeful in UAE when we lost 3-0 , that Eng lost by a heavier margin in the 1st test in which he played than the 3rd test in which Johnny scored 95 and 54 - which is more than KKP would likely have contributed and vs SL didn't notice Swann and Jimmy doing the business at the other end.And in the 1st Indian test he looked hopeless. So yes he had a role to play in these decent performances but he also had a role to play in some not so good performances. Oh and his scores in the NZ series were 0,12,73

  • SirViv1973 on April 16, 2013, 16:32 GMT

    @ Mitty2, there is no prospect of Prior moving to 6 and another batsman batting at 7. As @JG2704 says this wouldn't be a bad time to experiment with Woakes at 7 but the current management like continuity so I would expect to see Root at 5, Bairstow at 6 & Prior stay at 7, however I would say Bairstow needs to get some runs at county level to be sure of selection. Even though he didn't make the performance squad Taylor could yet push him if he can get runs early season for Notts.

  • alwaysindia on April 16, 2013, 15:25 GMT

    @long leg maybe you might also say that world cup doesnt matter to eng. maybe thats why eng refuse to win a world cup.

  • Optic on April 16, 2013, 12:49 GMT

    @Mike Best Spot on mate, souwesterly sounds like he's talking about a completely different batsman to KP and tbh his rant is so wide of the mark it's unreal. The guys 32, he's in his prime and if we go by the likes of Kallis, Tendulkar etc he can play plenty of years more.

    If we take his current form on merit, say the last 12 months he averages 56 with 3 of the most destructive amazing innings you could ever want to see. It's only a few months ago he played that match winning inning in India to help us win our first series there in decades. LOL seriously go back to County cricket for a year or so. Just for the record he played 4 times for Surrey last year, in one match against Somerset he hit a run a ball 163 and the game before he hit a 190 ball 234, he averaged 95 in CC. It's amazing even when people try to talk sensibly about him, their own little agenda comes to the surface.

  • Motobu on April 16, 2013, 12:37 GMT

    Not really much of a story, slightly longer period of rehab than first expected is all. Can't see him not partaking in both forthcoming Ashes series, and his inclusion would certainly be on merit considering his contributions over the last 12 months.

  • landl47 on April 16, 2013, 12:13 GMT

    I suspect souwesterly of being an Australian having a giggle. Who else would want KP to miss the two Ashes series in order to get fit for 2015? Personally, I'm happy to see him not playing in the IPL and being given the time to recover fully before he's selected again, but I think he'll be useful in the Ashes series.

    New Zealand has a good seam attack and their batting, though somewhat suspect, can be devastating on its day. They'll be a good warm-up for Australia, which has exactly the same team qualities.

  • HatsforBats on April 16, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    @ JG2704, I like the way you think, getting Woakes in a 5-man attack is a good attacking move and gives him some exposure at the highest level. I'm generally not a fan of having the keeper at six but Prior is top class and with Woakes, Broad, Swann (if fit) to follow there's enough sting in the tail. It would also be good to see how Root performs with the added responsibility at 5. NZ have a good quality pace attack (& I'm a big fan of Bracewell) but I'm not sure their batting will be able to keep them in the game in an early England tour.

  • on April 16, 2013, 11:27 GMT

    Souwesterly - "Well past his prime as an attacking batsman" !!? What are you talking about!? Where have you been for a year? Ok an average few games in NZ when he had an injury but why on earth would you waste the destructive talent of KP on county cricket when he is our best batsman? That is not to downgrade county cricket but he is a player for the big stage, he delivers against the best and is England's batting match winner. Opposition bowlers would be very happy for him not to be there. His last 18 innings (ie last 12 months) he averages 56 with 3 of the most incredible, attacking, 'game changing' hundreds you will ever see. The cliche about time in county cricket, if followed, would lead us back to a team reminiscent of the early 1990's. Rant over!

  • Long-Leg on April 16, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    Sorry to hear this news. It doesn't sound particularly good for his medium term prospects either. Get fit soon Kevin and don't come back too early. The Champion's trophy is a silly tournament anyway. The Ashes are all that matters to English fans this summer.

  • Selassie-I on April 16, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Worrying with the knees, we've seen a few batsmen have problems later in their careers with the knees like Vaughn, who struggled to maintain fitness late in his career.

    @Posted by souwesterly on (April 16, 2013, 9:51 GMT) I'm afraid I completley disagree - over the last 12 months (well about 14) KP has played 3 of the best innings of his career - big 100s against SL, turning the tide fo the series and winning us the game, agains SA at Headingly, Incredible against the world's best bowling attack (I saw it in person) and against India in the 2nd test, again hel;ping to trun the tide of the series. He looks a much more complete batsman now than he ever has. Although at some point soon he will lose a bit of reaction speed or his eyes might go, maybe his hand eye coordiantion will come down to normal speed rather than superhuman so he'll have to improve his technique to have continued success.

  • shillingsworth on April 16, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    @souwesterly - Don't understand the reference to KP's 'lack of cricket over the last 12 months'. He missed just one test through injury during that period and, when he wasn't selected by England last summer, he turned out for Surrey. For someone supposedly 'past their prime as an attacking batsman', he's played a remarkable number of match changing innings over the last year or so.

  • on April 16, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    England still have the better attack, especially in English conditions. The New Zealand batsmen will fear Anderson, Finn, Broad combination and in the absence of Swann, maybe it would be better to have Treadwell rather than Panesar, as I thinbk Treadwell deserves a chance. Cannot see New Zealand beating England here!

  • souwesterly on April 16, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    KP is now almost 33 and is probably well past his prime as an attacking batsman - especially in view of the lack of cricket that he's played this past twelve months. If he's officially fit again in June, it'll take him until August to get 'up to speed' - if indeed he manages to do so without breaking down again. I also strongly feel that his 'game changing' presence must now be heavily down-valued and his existence in the team must now be taken on merit only; basically on current performance only. KP must go back to county basics for a year or so.....and if he's still turning heads after next summer, then consider lining him up for the Test team for 2015. The warmth of the West Indies will do his old knees good.

  • anuradha_d on April 16, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    in every major Eng win in recent times KP has had a role to play.....his amazing inning to draw the test vs. SA in Headingley and the stunning BIG hundred in Mumbai are the recent ones that come to mind.

    and without him they lost to SA and came within a whisket of losing to lowest ranked NZ.

    KP will be missed and NZ might fancy their chances of pulling out anotehr drawn series

  • jplterrors on April 16, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    Easy win 4 NZ if he plays or not, ECB are just getting the excuses ready for when NZ run riot

  • Mitty2 on April 16, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    If new zealand can stifle anderson's threat and handle the (presumably) tougher conditions, they'd be thinking they're quite a chance! An attack of bracewell, southee and boult looks very threatening and both bairstow and root haven't really performed at test level so it will be good to see (for me) if NZ can exploit England without KP, and it will be interesting to see how bairstow and root fight for that number six position for the ashes. But prior is a better bat than them both and cook and co will be inclined to put him at six and drop the remaining batsman to seven...

  • Mitty2 on April 16, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    If new zealand can stifle anderson's threat and handle the (presumably) tougher conditions, they'd be thinking they're quite a chance! An attack of bracewell, southee and boult looks very threatening and both bairstow and root haven't really performed at test level so it will be good to see (for me) if NZ can exploit England without KP, and it will be interesting to see how bairstow and root fight for that number six position for the ashes. But prior is a better bat than them both and cook and co will be inclined to put him at six and drop the remaining batsman to seven...

  • jplterrors on April 16, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    Easy win 4 NZ if he plays or not, ECB are just getting the excuses ready for when NZ run riot

  • anuradha_d on April 16, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    in every major Eng win in recent times KP has had a role to play.....his amazing inning to draw the test vs. SA in Headingley and the stunning BIG hundred in Mumbai are the recent ones that come to mind.

    and without him they lost to SA and came within a whisket of losing to lowest ranked NZ.

    KP will be missed and NZ might fancy their chances of pulling out anotehr drawn series

  • souwesterly on April 16, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    KP is now almost 33 and is probably well past his prime as an attacking batsman - especially in view of the lack of cricket that he's played this past twelve months. If he's officially fit again in June, it'll take him until August to get 'up to speed' - if indeed he manages to do so without breaking down again. I also strongly feel that his 'game changing' presence must now be heavily down-valued and his existence in the team must now be taken on merit only; basically on current performance only. KP must go back to county basics for a year or so.....and if he's still turning heads after next summer, then consider lining him up for the Test team for 2015. The warmth of the West Indies will do his old knees good.

  • on April 16, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    England still have the better attack, especially in English conditions. The New Zealand batsmen will fear Anderson, Finn, Broad combination and in the absence of Swann, maybe it would be better to have Treadwell rather than Panesar, as I thinbk Treadwell deserves a chance. Cannot see New Zealand beating England here!

  • shillingsworth on April 16, 2013, 10:30 GMT

    @souwesterly - Don't understand the reference to KP's 'lack of cricket over the last 12 months'. He missed just one test through injury during that period and, when he wasn't selected by England last summer, he turned out for Surrey. For someone supposedly 'past their prime as an attacking batsman', he's played a remarkable number of match changing innings over the last year or so.

  • Selassie-I on April 16, 2013, 10:39 GMT

    Worrying with the knees, we've seen a few batsmen have problems later in their careers with the knees like Vaughn, who struggled to maintain fitness late in his career.

    @Posted by souwesterly on (April 16, 2013, 9:51 GMT) I'm afraid I completley disagree - over the last 12 months (well about 14) KP has played 3 of the best innings of his career - big 100s against SL, turning the tide fo the series and winning us the game, agains SA at Headingly, Incredible against the world's best bowling attack (I saw it in person) and against India in the 2nd test, again hel;ping to trun the tide of the series. He looks a much more complete batsman now than he ever has. Although at some point soon he will lose a bit of reaction speed or his eyes might go, maybe his hand eye coordiantion will come down to normal speed rather than superhuman so he'll have to improve his technique to have continued success.

  • Long-Leg on April 16, 2013, 10:46 GMT

    Sorry to hear this news. It doesn't sound particularly good for his medium term prospects either. Get fit soon Kevin and don't come back too early. The Champion's trophy is a silly tournament anyway. The Ashes are all that matters to English fans this summer.

  • on April 16, 2013, 11:27 GMT

    Souwesterly - "Well past his prime as an attacking batsman" !!? What are you talking about!? Where have you been for a year? Ok an average few games in NZ when he had an injury but why on earth would you waste the destructive talent of KP on county cricket when he is our best batsman? That is not to downgrade county cricket but he is a player for the big stage, he delivers against the best and is England's batting match winner. Opposition bowlers would be very happy for him not to be there. His last 18 innings (ie last 12 months) he averages 56 with 3 of the most incredible, attacking, 'game changing' hundreds you will ever see. The cliche about time in county cricket, if followed, would lead us back to a team reminiscent of the early 1990's. Rant over!

  • HatsforBats on April 16, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    @ JG2704, I like the way you think, getting Woakes in a 5-man attack is a good attacking move and gives him some exposure at the highest level. I'm generally not a fan of having the keeper at six but Prior is top class and with Woakes, Broad, Swann (if fit) to follow there's enough sting in the tail. It would also be good to see how Root performs with the added responsibility at 5. NZ have a good quality pace attack (& I'm a big fan of Bracewell) but I'm not sure their batting will be able to keep them in the game in an early England tour.