England v New Zealand, 3rd NatWest ODI, Trent Bridge June 4, 2013

Broad and Finn show improvement

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England have been handed a much-needed boost after Stuart Broad and Steven Finn both took a full part in training at Trent Bridge on Tuesday ahead of the final one-day international against New Zealand.

Broad picked up a knee injury in the second Test against New Zealand and Finn had been suffering from shin soreness. The pair had been ruled out of the first two matches of the series and doubts were growing about their chances of making the Champions Trophy, but those worries now appear to be reducing although it remains uncertain whether both will be risked on Wednesday.

Ian Bell said it was a welcome sight to see them in the nets. "They've been two massive performers in one-day cricket for a while for us so to have them back fit - or certainly training today - is a big boost for everyone. It's good to have a full squad competing for places which is what you need going into a big tournament."

In their absence England's reserve bowlers have struggled, especially Jade Dernbach and Chris Woakes, to reinforce how vital Broad and Finn are to England's Champions Trophy hopes.

After the heavy defeat at the Ageas Bowl on Sunday, Cook had sounded worried about his strike bowlers. "They are both a concern but five or six days is still quite a long way away. They've missed two games and been out for a while, so we'll see."

Boyd Rankin, the Warwickshire and former Ireland quick, was drafted into the squad as cover and Bell was on the receiving end of him trying to make a claim for selection on Wednesday.

"Facing him in the nets is absolutely horrible," Bell said. "I didn't enjoy it too much today. It's great to see him charging in in an England shirt."

The fitness of two of their leading strike bowlers has not been the only issue for England over the last few days. The top order, with the exception of Jonathan Trott at the Ageas Bowl, have continued their recent trend of wasting starts.

"A lot of us have got starts and not gone on. That's frustrating," Bell said. "Generally, in the last couple of years, someone in the top four has gone on. Trotty did that for us the other day - which was great - but if another couple of us could do that it would get us into a good position to get good runs.

"We've a great record at home. It's the first series since 2009 we've lost, so it's a strange thing to happen. But tomorrow is a big day. If we can get it right it gives us good momentum going into that series."

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  • Martin on June 5, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    Andy Parry: yes, and stats wise Franklin was never good enough as a bowler or batsman: Bat av. 25, Bowl av 40. in odi. at 32 he's not past it; he just never got there in the first place. It would be nice to see a new Oram or Cairns, but failing that, perhaps Neesham or Cory Anderson would be a better bet?

  • Dummy4 on June 5, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    @ Beige_and_blue: Indeed which I why I have been a long-time fan of the NZ A tours. If we could have NZ cricket funded like we do with our rugby than we could send the A's on more tours and blood promising talent instead of sticking them into the main side and letting them sink or swim.

    Please tell me that we all agree that Franklin is past his use-by date. That position in the team should be filled by someone with the caliber of an Oram or Cairns.

    Yes Ronchi has a future and might well have the potential to be our Adam Gilchrist but I would have brought him into the team further down and have someone else open with Guppy.

  • Martin on June 5, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    Andy Parry: latham is not in the odi squad otherwise I would be all for his inclusion. NZ forever: short memory problems? Fulton's odi stats are not too bad and his two innings in Auckland are still fresh in my memory; besides, he had by far the best stats in NZ's last domestic season. Should we select someone who isn't as good? Just because we keep selecting under-performers doesn't mean we are overlooking unrelised cricketing wealth!

  • Dummy4 on June 5, 2013, 5:32 GMT

    @ Beige_and_blue: While I like your idea of giving other players game time, I am pretty sure Dan Vettori is yet again unavailable for tonight's game. Concerns over Ronchi after all the hype, it doesn't look like he is handling the international scene very well at all. Maybe time to try Latham.

  • Dummy4 on June 5, 2013, 4:25 GMT

    im thinking he was meaning adam hollioake? rather then ben (i hope)

  • Richard on June 4, 2013, 22:28 GMT

    Gagg some fair points but re: Sodhi I think back to an even younger & less experienced Vettori given a chance and being like a breathe of fresh air in the nz team. Milne/B.Small plus Cachopa/Raval certainly should be looked at in the longer format of the game. Henry/Kitchen/Neesham/Latham should be brought in after the CT to gain experience for the 2015 w/c. Franklin/Mills/Elliott/C.Martin should retire gracefully and be thanked for their services however Fulton/Ellis/Arnel/B.Martin shouldn't be allowed near any odi t20 or test ever again.

  • Martin on June 4, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    Hey, England fans; I'm not saying this because I don't want to see NZ facing a full strength Eng, but with the series lost it would seem a bad plan to risk two known performers with questionable fitness, days before a major tournament begins, playing for little more than pride. Instead it would seem an ideal opportunity to treat this game in much the same way as the 14-15 man per side practice games currently underway around the UK: try out some new combinations and blood some new players. For balance, I also hope NZ use this approach; for the last game of the series I would like to see Butler, Munro, and Vettori come in for Bracewell, Franklin, and Eliott; not for any reason other than match practice before CT starts. (Maybe Southee for Mills too; assuming all are fit.)

  • GeoffreysMother on June 4, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    There is a very interesting by play here. Whilst Ashley Giles would obviously want to play Broad and Finn in the Champions Trophy, I am sure Andy Flower would prefer to err on the side of caution and ensure they are good enough for the first three Ashes test (which should be enough ( especially as Clarke's back isn't going to last more than one). The advantage of Rankin is that of course he has already played international cricket and turned in some pretty creditable performances against the big boys. That is surely better than bringing in an untried or inexperienced bowler like Roland Jones. I think they will save Tremlett for the Ashes - and he will probably play later on in the series - just to see if Phil Hughes can play short pitched bowling.

  • Martin on June 4, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    @gsingh7 (June 4, 2013, 14:54 GMT) You really are a well informed genius aren't you? You say Broad was "listless" in the 2011 and 2013 ODI series in India. Well - that's an impressive achievement considering that Stuart Broad wasn't even on those tours. And as for your comment about Ben Hollioake - that is downright tactless considering that he has been dead for the past 11 years. I suggest you think again before suggesting that he should come out of retirement. Not funny, not funny in the least.

  • Martin on June 4, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    @gsingh stuart broad didn't play in either of those series. good to see your comments as factually accurate as usual tho ...

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