England v Pakistan, 1st npower Test, Trent Bridge, 3rd day July 31, 2010

Waqar wary of workload for fast men

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For a brief moment this morning it felt like Pakistan seemed to have gained a foothold in this exciting Test. After Umar Gul's defiant burst with the bat, which relieved them of the burden of following on, Pakistan fought back admirably with their three fast men trampling the England batting order with authority. At 98 for 6, and the lead at 270, Pakistan held their heads high.

But as the full house at Trent Bridge welcomed the sun finally breaking through the clouds for the first time in two days about an hour after lunch, the visitors' body language steadily grew weary. With the pitch offering hardly any true bounce or movement and the ball losing its shine, Salman Butt duly rested his pace trio comprising the two Mohammads - Asif and Aamer - and Gul.

Subsequently Danish Kaneria, who was introduced for the first time in the day one over before tea, continued to operate from one end while the part-timers Shoaib Malik and Umar Amin bowled innocuous overs for Matt Prior to build to his century and wilt the Pakistan spirits with every additional run.

Just like Australia had escaped twice at Lord's after Pakistan's quicks had worked assiduously to demolish the specialist batsmen, Prior led England to recovery and then built further momentum in the company of the tail. What worked in the hosts' favour was there was nothing much for the fast bowler on a dry and slow pitch. Also keeping in mind a long summer ahead, Pakistan did not want to exhaust and risk injury to their match-winning pace trio.

"The [fast] bowlers were really tired," Waqar Younis, Pakistan coach, said after the day's play. "These [fast] bowlers have been bowling too many overs from the Australia series. We don't want anyone injured and those three our key bowlers."

If there was somebody he wasn't impressed with it was his main spinner Kaneria, who Waqar felt was a big letdown. The coach had a blunt appraisal of the legspinner in this match: "We struggled with Danish Kaneria. He was lacking confidence and he really struggled getting his rhythm going, which was tough for us."

Astonishingly, Kaneria failed to bowl any maidens and had only one wicket to his credit with his match figures reading: 33-0-171-1. Waqar pointed out that Kaneria's best opportunity to bounce back after an abysmal first-innings performance with the ball came early in the second session today.

With Stuart Broad hunting for runs this year and Jimmy Anderson on a king pair and Steven Finn playing only his third Test, Kaneria needed to dominate Prior, England's last specialist batsman. "At a stage when they were six down we just needed somebody to get up and take a wicket but that didn't happen," Waqar said.

For most of the afternoon Pakistan allowed things to happen and the early morning promise that Gul had injected into the team with his maiden half-century suddenly seemed distant. For the second time this summer Pakistan were chasing a 400-plus score for victory in the fourth innings - Australia had set them 440 at Lord's - and both times they knew it could've been a much easier, and achievable target.

Asked if he was disappointed at his top order failing to survive with about three quarters of an hour before the close of play, Waqar conceded that losing three wickets was too many. "In a way it is always disappointing when you lose wickets when you don't want to especially at the end of the day," Waqar said. "I wasn't expecting three wickets - maybe one, but they were right on target."

But the Pakistan coach said he couldn't blame the batsmen entirely, as they had endured a long and taxing day in the field. "It is always tough when you are in the field for 70 overs and then you have to go and bat and it is even tougher for the youngsters," Waqar said.

So, is it over for Pakistan in this Test? Waqar nearly admitted defeat. "It seems very, very hard form here on," he said nodding his head. That does not mean he is giving up on the series, because he reckons Pakistan have the ability to fight back just like they caught Ricky Ponting's men by surprise at Headingley.

"We won against Australia [so] we are a very fine side and I've got no doubt that they can make a comeback. It is a four-match Test series. I haven't given up on this Test yet, but it is not going to be very easy tomorrow."

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at Cricinfo

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  • on August 1, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    i really don't understand that y ABDUL RAZZAK is been kept out of the test matches he has been one of the best all rounder in all # formats, i agree we are missing 2 y in out team but PCB should not take chances just near world cup coming bring 2 Y back and give Abdul razzak a chance back in test then i see how any team can fool us.

  • khan864 on August 1, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    salman butt will not bring yousef and younis back bec he cant score runns like them he is bad fielder he have score only few hunderds they have scored lot people will not talk abt him it was all plane before to make salman captain 2007 he was voice captain bec of his prfomance they changed him he played 1 are 2 innings in t20 worldcup suddnly all media talk abt him ,but there who score it was akmal brothers they use afridi as tool he is gone who left now we pakistani people forget how big players are 2 y one player score in t20 are oneday we put him in test match to play test match need time i hope ASIF Zardari change his man .in pakistan people have only 1 thing to enjoy thats cricket ´but its full of politics wrong people is incharge

  • on August 1, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    because of one man Ijaz Bhatt pakistan cricket is consistently on sabotage and rite now if we dont remove him from the chairmanship he ll continue to do so i really dont understand with lots of conteroversies against him y he is still there GO GO IJAZ BHATT, THE BAFOON

  • S.N.Singh on August 1, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    WHAT WAQAR AND YOUNIS FAILED TO REALIZED IS THAT THE CONDITION IN ENGLAND SUIT "SEAMERS" ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING SECCIONS. THIS HAPPENED TO ALL THE TEAMS. WHAT THEY HAVE TO THINK OF IS THAT THEIR BATTING FAILLED MISERABLY. ANDERSON GOT 11 WICKETS IN THE MATCH WHICH IS UNUASUAL. SO THE CONDITION SUIT SEAMERS. WINNING THAT MATCH AGAINST AUSTRALIA WAS ALL DUE THE MORNING CONDITION BY BOWLING OUT AUSTRALIA FOR 82. THE SAME THING HAPPENNED PAKISTAN GOT BOWLLED OUT FOR 80 IN THE MORNING SESSION. TO SAY THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR BOWLERS TO GET INJURIED IS NONSENSE. THEY ARE GOOD BOWLERS, THEY SHOULD DO THE JOB. ALSO SHOULS BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TAIL OUT . S.N,SINGH USA.

  • rohit657655678776 on August 1, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    bringing younus and yousuf is not the sollution for pakistan, as they can serve pakistan for most 2 yrs, they should give their young players more chance , umar akmal and mohd.amir are the two of most talented new comers of this decade,but other players are looking less than ordinary,specialy the guy umar amin looks anything but talented, and how can a player like salman but with an average of 32 become captain of a world class team like pakistan? hopefully god will help our selectors to find some quality fast bowlers for india and some good batsmen fr pakistan.

  • Sadozai on August 1, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    yousaf and younis will b back other wise pakiistani side is lost by 4/0 and then they make the foolish appoligies.............

  • rahul_d1973 on August 1, 2010, 13:20 GMT

    @SamAsh07 Why was saeed ajmal needed here???? Didnt you have the ""world's best"" bowlers till a couple of days back??? What happened to them? Or was shahid afridi missing to chew the ball and to scrape the pitch with his spikes?

  • Sadozai on August 1, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    the pakistan selectors are very very very very vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv poor and they make the foolish the decision's........ejaz butt is joker i agree with the australians he is joker of the circus go to circus and do the job that is well suited you joker ejaz butt

  • sanjay_khan01 on August 1, 2010, 13:16 GMT

    Wake-up Pakistan Coaches and Selectors, the water is overthe head now and if we still don't fix the problem that would be a damn shame on us. Keep in mind there are 3 more test to go. Where are Younis and Yousef? Pakistani team needs them else we can sit and watch Pak Titanic . Our over all team morale is low due to rubbish batting side. Why we kept testing Umar Amin/ Azhar Ali while they could be replaced by two " Y ". Also, Fawad Alam is a better test cricketer than Umar Akmal. Umar Akmal is not a test cricketer but he performs much better in ODI and T20 matches. Also, Saeed Ajmal must be replaced by Danish Kaneria.

  • on August 1, 2010, 13:00 GMT

    I dont know what Akamal brothers,umar amin are doing at least in test match and Kaneria should be immediately replaced with saeed ajmal or Abdur rehman.

  • on August 1, 2010, 14:31 GMT

    i really don't understand that y ABDUL RAZZAK is been kept out of the test matches he has been one of the best all rounder in all # formats, i agree we are missing 2 y in out team but PCB should not take chances just near world cup coming bring 2 Y back and give Abdul razzak a chance back in test then i see how any team can fool us.

  • khan864 on August 1, 2010, 14:22 GMT

    salman butt will not bring yousef and younis back bec he cant score runns like them he is bad fielder he have score only few hunderds they have scored lot people will not talk abt him it was all plane before to make salman captain 2007 he was voice captain bec of his prfomance they changed him he played 1 are 2 innings in t20 worldcup suddnly all media talk abt him ,but there who score it was akmal brothers they use afridi as tool he is gone who left now we pakistani people forget how big players are 2 y one player score in t20 are oneday we put him in test match to play test match need time i hope ASIF Zardari change his man .in pakistan people have only 1 thing to enjoy thats cricket ´but its full of politics wrong people is incharge

  • on August 1, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    because of one man Ijaz Bhatt pakistan cricket is consistently on sabotage and rite now if we dont remove him from the chairmanship he ll continue to do so i really dont understand with lots of conteroversies against him y he is still there GO GO IJAZ BHATT, THE BAFOON

  • S.N.Singh on August 1, 2010, 13:43 GMT

    WHAT WAQAR AND YOUNIS FAILED TO REALIZED IS THAT THE CONDITION IN ENGLAND SUIT "SEAMERS" ESPECIALLY IN THE MORNING SECCIONS. THIS HAPPENED TO ALL THE TEAMS. WHAT THEY HAVE TO THINK OF IS THAT THEIR BATTING FAILLED MISERABLY. ANDERSON GOT 11 WICKETS IN THE MATCH WHICH IS UNUASUAL. SO THE CONDITION SUIT SEAMERS. WINNING THAT MATCH AGAINST AUSTRALIA WAS ALL DUE THE MORNING CONDITION BY BOWLING OUT AUSTRALIA FOR 82. THE SAME THING HAPPENNED PAKISTAN GOT BOWLLED OUT FOR 80 IN THE MORNING SESSION. TO SAY THAT THEY DO NOT WANT THEIR BOWLERS TO GET INJURIED IS NONSENSE. THEY ARE GOOD BOWLERS, THEY SHOULD DO THE JOB. ALSO SHOULS BE ABLE TO TAKE THE TAIL OUT . S.N,SINGH USA.

  • rohit657655678776 on August 1, 2010, 13:32 GMT

    bringing younus and yousuf is not the sollution for pakistan, as they can serve pakistan for most 2 yrs, they should give their young players more chance , umar akmal and mohd.amir are the two of most talented new comers of this decade,but other players are looking less than ordinary,specialy the guy umar amin looks anything but talented, and how can a player like salman but with an average of 32 become captain of a world class team like pakistan? hopefully god will help our selectors to find some quality fast bowlers for india and some good batsmen fr pakistan.

  • Sadozai on August 1, 2010, 13:21 GMT

    yousaf and younis will b back other wise pakiistani side is lost by 4/0 and then they make the foolish appoligies.............

  • rahul_d1973 on August 1, 2010, 13:20 GMT

    @SamAsh07 Why was saeed ajmal needed here???? Didnt you have the ""world's best"" bowlers till a couple of days back??? What happened to them? Or was shahid afridi missing to chew the ball and to scrape the pitch with his spikes?

  • Sadozai on August 1, 2010, 13:17 GMT

    the pakistan selectors are very very very very vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv poor and they make the foolish the decision's........ejaz butt is joker i agree with the australians he is joker of the circus go to circus and do the job that is well suited you joker ejaz butt

  • sanjay_khan01 on August 1, 2010, 13:16 GMT

    Wake-up Pakistan Coaches and Selectors, the water is overthe head now and if we still don't fix the problem that would be a damn shame on us. Keep in mind there are 3 more test to go. Where are Younis and Yousef? Pakistani team needs them else we can sit and watch Pak Titanic . Our over all team morale is low due to rubbish batting side. Why we kept testing Umar Amin/ Azhar Ali while they could be replaced by two " Y ". Also, Fawad Alam is a better test cricketer than Umar Akmal. Umar Akmal is not a test cricketer but he performs much better in ODI and T20 matches. Also, Saeed Ajmal must be replaced by Danish Kaneria.

  • on August 1, 2010, 13:00 GMT

    I dont know what Akamal brothers,umar amin are doing at least in test match and Kaneria should be immediately replaced with saeed ajmal or Abdur rehman.

  • RameshSubramaniam on August 1, 2010, 12:51 GMT

    Except Gul, Kaneria and Mailk to an extent, everyone wants to score behind the wicket which is the proof to their attitude, technique, confidence, etc. In the over beore Kamran Akmal's dismissal, Malik denied easy single which means he dont want to be in strike or he has no confidence to take strike or he just wants to be not out in the non striker's end so that he can escape the blame. Also two senior batsman comes at 7 and 8 and expose their younger talents to new ball. Seriously I dont understand the statistics.

  • Peace_Lover on August 1, 2010, 12:30 GMT

    I dont think Waqar Younas can do "ANYTHING" if he has been given a team like THAT .. Thanks to Mr Ijaz Butt we CANT really have Younas Khan in the team .. And we will continue to see Pakistan losing badly like this .. I dont know why they are not picking Yasir Hameed in the team .. He is far better than Umer Amin and Azhar Ali .. And "IF" you really wanna go with the youngsters then why not pick Asad Shafiq ! .. Hes stylish and very very talented player .. He was givenonly one chance in the last ODI in Asia Cup but that was "After" the team announced for England .. But just because he is a quiet person and without "PARCHI" he is not in the team .. But in the end i really think we need Younas and Yousaf in the team .. Younas as a test captain of course .. Dont think Salman Butt can be a good captain .. We won against Australia but that was due to GREAT bowling effort (performance like THAT happens once in a year or 2)

  • rahul_d1973 on August 1, 2010, 12:20 GMT

    What workload??? till couple of days back, werent these the force to reckon with?????

  • oman20101982 on August 1, 2010, 12:16 GMT

    Oh .. I just dont understand why Younis is Out , Why Yousaf is Out , If someone have any problem , or personal problem with the way they look or the way they talk to them , please Fear God and dont hurt pakistan cricket by keeping people who have 50 plus averages out of the team . We all want good young people but we dont want unjustice firtly and most importantly . if a 40 year old is playing with 50 plus average Pakistan needs him , not a youngster who scores , 1 , 2 or 8 runs every match and scores a fifty in ten matches . Pakistan needs good Batsman and bowlers in the field . And I heard of a seven foot , Muhammad Irfan , who was initially selected but thenm dropped , Please If you wanna add some youngster on the spot , add people like these , who have Natural Gifted build o\f a fast bowler and a batsman like Umar Akmal who really is very highly talened but no one should do unjustice . May Allah Guide us all .

  • on August 1, 2010, 12:09 GMT

    PAKISTAN HAS LOST THIS TEST MATCH AS WELL. I CONGRATULATE MR.BUTT CHAIRMAN P.C.B ON IT. CREDIT MUST BE GIVEN TO HIM FOR NOT ALLOWING YOUSAF & YOUNAS WHO ARE THE 2 BEST PLAYERS IN THE PAKISTAN NOT 2 PLAY IN THIS SERIES. JUST AFTER WININIG AGAINST AUSTRALINAS LOTS OF CRICKET PANDITS WERE SAYING THAT ITS A DAWN OF NEW ERA IN PAKISTAN CRICKET............ THEY COMPLETELY IGNORED THE FACT THAT THIS WIN WAS ENTIRELY BECAUSE OF BOWLING OUT AUSTRALIA ON 88 IN FIRST INNINGS. HAD RICKY PONTING NOT OPTED TO BAT FIRST OR HAD AUSTRALIA ONLY MADE 20 MORE RUNS IN 2ND INNINGS. I BET THE RESULT WOULD BE 180 DEGREE DIFFRENT. YOUSAF & YOUNAS ARE BATSMENS NOT BOWLERS. WHAT PAKISTANI BATSMANES HAVE DONE IN THAT MATCH ? WHAT IS THE CREDIBILITY OF UMER AMIN , UMER AKMAL, SHOAIB MALIK 2 PLAY TEST MATCHES ? ARE THEY SUITABLE ? OR SHOULD PAKISTANI TEAM NOW ONLY PLAY 20-20 MATCHES. THEY ARE BOWLED OUT WITHIN 29 OVERS IN THE 2ND INNINGS THIS OF MATCH & IRONAICALLY DANISH KANARIA WAS THE TOP SCORER.

  • Acton49 on August 1, 2010, 11:03 GMT

    What are people talking about. This is the way forward .... Who is kidding who. The batting is a joke.... they have no idea what is going on! 47 -6 in the first inning and 41- 7 in the second inning. Our tailenders are better than the top order. Why are we burying our head in the sands. We will never get another 4 match test series! Two match series are the max in this climate. The selectors should hold their head in shame. 1) Salman Butt - does not know where his off stumps is 2) Imran Farhat - does not know where his off stumps is as well 3) Azhar Ali - could be retained 4) Umar Amin - Found wanting need two season on A tour duty 5) Umar Akmal - the hype is over for him as the next Javed Miandad 6) Shoaib Malik - should be retained. 7) Kamran Akmal - Should the given the boot! He has been the culprit of Sydney Test and now Nottingham. he can'e keep and certainaly cannot bat. Then the tail-ender the real find for Pakistan capable of taking 20 wickets. Where are the Y's

  • XX-warrior-XX on August 1, 2010, 10:58 GMT

    Pakistan really need to bring Younis, and Mohammad Yussef back. these batsmen are like sheep waiting to be slaughtered.

    whats funny, is that they sent Amer in as night watchman to protect the batsmen, i would have sent any of the middle order in to protect Amer.. he has actually looked a better batsman than any one other than Malik.

  • Nrao786 on August 1, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    This game has been lost due to poor keeping, spin bowling and batting.

    In the 1st INNS we only had 2.5 bowlers, as Gul was too inconsistent to be counted as a threat! Akmal did everything possible to prevent any advantage with his poor keeping.....this was coupled by an out-of-form Kaneria to further dip after his missed stumping. Sure, he has been victim more times to Akmal's inconsistency than any other bowler yet the rate he was conceding runs and general poor length was not related to Akmal!

    If our bowlers pull up crock earlier than expected, it will not only be due to our batsman but also our lack of backup bowlers which again is the fault of the selection committee and the captain - particularly if they dont change things for the 2nd Test.

    Depending on the pitch and overhead conditions, i'd possibly look to play another seamer and ask malik/amin to back them up. If a spinner must play, i'd prefer Abdur Rehman over Ajmal, similarly potent in Tests' better fielder/bat..

  • mriaz on August 1, 2010, 9:55 GMT

    waqar should talk about Two Ys as he should know the importance of batting supporting bowling.Salaman started showing his captain pressure in his batting.I dont know what Umar Akmal is doing in test. he should be given enough time in oneday to establish then bring him into test. all PAK batsmen showing mockery of test cricket and bringing disrepute to cricket and Pak as nation.For god sake include Yousyf and Younis with 1-2 young players.I am aghast at the batting line up.expe players like Malik and Umar Akmal are batting lower down the order while new comers ate 1 and2 down. Senseless stuff ot trying to protect Malik and Akmal brothers.U talk about available resources so atleast use them properly.Trust me any of these will not gete a chance even in Ranji trphy in India with kind of batting technique and temperament.We will leave watching pak matches. pity for poor bowlers, they will go disaaray as there efforts have no value.pAk anyway will lose.Trust me we will see 3-0 defeat for PAK

  • mriaz on August 1, 2010, 9:44 GMT

    good to hear waqar's comments on bowlers but equally surprised not to hear anything on batting.i am sure with the king of imbalance in batting and bowling, pak bowlers will either get injured or lost the interest in bowling (which infcat could have seen 3rd days later half of the game) as there is no point in wasting your energies because watever u do your batsmen will nullify it.its very natural and i will not blame bowlers if soon they develop this attitude.Waqar has played so much of cricket and should know how newcomers are treated and adjusted in test side no matter how talented they are. Look at Aus, India, England, SA, SL everywhere they put 1 or 2 newcomers with experienced players and put them in dressing room to know the game and temperament.So many players we see around the world , tey come with the bang in one dayers and given enough time before they are taken to test side. Waqar is not doing anything to bring TWo Ys back with players like Azahr ali to give respect to pak.

  • ThKhan on August 1, 2010, 9:27 GMT

    There is just one simple thing no doubt about waqar's performance as a player but the one WHO didn acted as a good leader of team how come just HOW he can be a good coach NO WAY....just all politics games in pakistan cricket i feel sorry, i can bet million bugzzz to anyone that during waqar's career as coach, if pakistan win just just one tournament

  • khan864 on August 1, 2010, 9:01 GMT

    all my country people dont think abt pakistan teem bec they will naver change its much politics between teem not not players those people who wanted to be in tuch with cricket and live on that how come salman butt become captain how maney mtches have he won for pakistan his averege is 32 in test match he is very bed fielder ,2 how come shoaib malik fit in test teem,azhar ali and umar amin are good player ,but pakistan teem wants result from them they are new ,if they want send shoaib malik 1 dowen are umar malik they are hiding sending these new to face new ball all english bowler and ausis are tall they get help from wicket with there hight we have irfan in pakistan he have pace and bounce but no one wants try him .IJAZ BUTT will not go till all world cup money gose to ASIF ZARDARI swiss acount that we will get from icc think about it

  • xana.pezza on August 1, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    I have to say some thing to Mr Waqar and Pkistani team management that kindly show some maturity in allocating any portfolio, Mr Waqar you have been a great player of cricket in the recent past, assigning Salman Butt a captain is the biggest mistake as Salman is still in the process of establishing himself as a stable batsman in alll situations/conditions. I dont know what Kamran Akamal is doing at least in test match and Kaneria, his time is over pl make some quick changes and see the same team can do miracle. you have Abdur Razak, Saeed Ajmal, and another specialist wicket keeper too.niether country nor team is biggest, in fact the game is the biggest and the entire world knows what Pakistani team is in the cricket. in fact we are very frustrated and highly depressed as we know that Pak can rock even with this team they have now but its due to total unplanned proceeding and the result is explicit.

  • on August 1, 2010, 8:43 GMT

    This test is doomed for Pak team. Only miracle like rain can save Pak. It's better they should start thinking about the 2nd test onwards. I think Keneria, Umar Amin should be rested & give a chance to Ajmal & Razzak. We don't have an option of getting Younis or Yousuf back. So better rely on what you have in hand. I hope & pray for them today

  • SamAsh07 on August 1, 2010, 8:34 GMT

    If Saeed Ajmal was here, the target Pakistan had to chase, would be way different....

  • IMIM on August 1, 2010, 8:02 GMT

    Same ? I have been asking the PCB why dont you call for Ys.. You have strong attack in the world but you are lacking in Batting, I request to Butt please don't play with cricket board, They are senior players who have won so many matches for Pakistan, let them play the cricket,, let us be proud of our team ...

    There was one butt earlier now there is one more How will they manage.. ????

  • FTKhan on August 1, 2010, 7:33 GMT

    For current match whole credit goes to Aijaz Butt. Last test match Pakistan teams bowlers have won to save Aijaz Butt's and Yar Saeed's job. Here comes their arrogance again. Lots of saying against these 2 culprits from whole media and Pakistan cricket lovers. But no body can do something against these 2 politically powerful people. For God sake they are killing Pakistani cricket.They need to apologize to Yousaf and specially to Younas, but instead on influence of Yawar Butt's is seeking apoligize from them.

  • on August 1, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    I wont blame Kaneria entirely. For last three years, Kaneria has been the biggest victim of kamral Akmal. I cant even count how many important cacthes and stumpings Kamran has missed on the bowling of Kaneria. Kaneria's figures and confidence could have been much better had Kamran held on to those chances because quite often one wicket leads to many.

    A good wicket keeper is confidence booster for the bowler and Kaneria doesnt enjoy such luxury.

  • AhmadSaleem on August 1, 2010, 6:47 GMT

    Pakistan have won at least one test match in this difficult tour. What did they do in Australia and Srilanka in presence of Mohammad Yousuf? They did not win even a single test match. England`s top order has also struggled because its difficult to face new ball there. So we should own them even after a bad performance as Salman butt said in his post match interview after Leeds test. They are our future not Yousuf

  • imtiz on August 1, 2010, 6:21 GMT

    The picture of Butt, Kami and Keneria should have been titled as 3 idiots.

    I think pakistan should play with 10 bowlers and a proper wicket keeper and that way they would be more effective with both ball and bat (look how Amir and Gul bats).

  • sherishahmir on August 1, 2010, 6:06 GMT

    At this stage it is almost impossible to have a come back, the advantage given to Pak by Pak bowlers when lead was about 270 and only tail left for England were the moments to have something out of the match for Pak but all lost.

    In my opinion Pak bowling is quite upto the mark the only problem is our batting. Even had england been out with a target of 250 runs it would be a big questin mark for our batsman to chase. Its really unfair to put young bats (Umar Amin and Azhar Ali) in front of team like Aus & England in England conditions, Pak needs desperately experience bats Yousif, Younis, Misbah & Asim Kamal, under the guidance and presence the young players can flourish and play their natural game rather to put whole burden on their backs.

    Hopefully the PCB management should seriously think abt it and bring atleast Younis&Yousif immediately for next match, so there will be some interest for Pak fans to watch the rest of series.

  • Mahdi_E-Dra_Gujranwali on August 1, 2010, 6:04 GMT

    Salaam to my brothers

    I have two pertinent points to make

    1) Afridi is missing from the side therefore leaving the side without anyone who could paalish, maalish and if necessary,bite the ball to ensure that the tail is blown away using reberj swing 2 Kaneria isn't to be trusted because of you know what! and what's more, there are rumours that he has applied for a british passport! AHA! all the haters here can't digest the fact that Pakistan is the worlds best cricket team

  • ThKhan on August 1, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    Plz i would say for HEaVeNS sake dun even think about any miracle of chasing this big target its Team Pakistani, not like Australia or South Africa n remember its English soil, not Chennai, Karachi or Port of Spain

  • whyowhy on August 1, 2010, 4:32 GMT

    Aamer, Asif and Gul are the only three members of the pakistani team playing for their country, they are bowling magnificiently, batting better than any of the top order batsman and then their team loses on the 4th day (predicted by me earlier) something is wrong and with Butt batting like his surname in this test match it seems that he will also resign very soon, if not immediately after this test match. I predict that Waqar will also follow soon if not later. How can a team survive all these frustrations ?? My sympathies are with the young chaps thrown into the deep end with weights tied to their feet................

  • CricEshwar on August 1, 2010, 4:31 GMT

    Dream on Waqar.. world's best test team - Indian Batting+Pak Bowling. Nothing could come between them.

  • Himayun on August 1, 2010, 3:14 GMT

    The best pace attack in the world is cut down to size by English tail. Pakistanis despite losing so many matches still are legends in their own mind! None of them has a batting average of more than 30's and yet they behave like none of their predecessors. How many of them are in the top 20 or 50 in the world? They have to learn to shut up and let their game and record do the talking. Hashim Amla is a great example for them to follow. Pakistani batsmen did not fail; their tour averages would not be much different from their life or recent averages. None of them is a man of crisis or like Asif Iqbal, Mushtaq, Abbas, Miandad, Inzamam and the forbidden Yusuf and younus, the two best bats in the history of Pakistan. People who expect these boys to be man are living in fool's paradise. Even the commentators today proved the wrong position at which Kamran stands as keeper compared to the others. When would Salman Butt do the right thing & demand the two best bats join the team? HM, USA

  • Legal_Doosra on August 1, 2010, 2:21 GMT

    Well today Pakistan really needed Younis and Yousuf to calm the jittery nerves. Ijaz Butt has single handedly killed Pakistani cricket. I can't wait for him to retire and leave Pakistan cricket forever.

  • Zahidsaltin on August 1, 2010, 1:55 GMT

    ....continued... Cricket lovers of his counry are just as cleaver as any one thinks he is. We all know that now will use this win against Australia to justify their stupid acts for a long time to come. But again, did you win that match due to some batting display? no it was pethatic as always. I don't know why every one in power in Pakistan goes on to destroy every single organisation for his own pleasure. Why is Ijaz Butt keeping Younis Khan and Yousef out of the team? Why is Yasser Hamid not included when Umar Amin, Umar Akmal, Shoaib and every one else is unable to score? Why is Kamran not rested and sent to Rashid Latif for six months of intensive training? Why did you see a talent in only those players who have not more than 40 batting average in low class domestic cricket. Why didn,t you see any talent in people who score at more than 50 like Naved Yasin? Who the hell else will take two new commers to fill 3rd and 4th spot on a tour to England and Australia? Ijaz Butt and Yawer F

  • Zahidsaltin on August 1, 2010, 1:43 GMT

    Even our standards for calling some one a talent are lowered to the botom line. In other teams new players come in to equation, score a couple of 100s and even 200s and then commenators start aknowledging their talent. But for us if some one scores a couple of 20s and 30s we call him a super talent and a prospect for a long future. Kamran has caused us o lose some 10 matches just because of poor catching and missplacement of the keeper and slip fielders, but we go on to have him for his batting even if his average in last six matches is below 16 and he has never scored a 100 out side subcontinent. Our best spinner, Kaneria always takes 20 overs of full osses, short ones and wider ones on both sides before he with some hope finds his line. He never ever ran through a batting line and normally will take 5/250 on his luckiest day. There are only 3 players keeping this team going, Aamer, Asif and Gul. Rest is just a can of garbage. Batting is only good for 150 score per innings....cont..

  • on August 1, 2010, 1:31 GMT

    waqar is rightly supporting his team but it will be a very tough series for them .....

  • Classy.Nerd on August 1, 2010, 0:41 GMT

    I must say, Salman Butt should indeed be taught about the art of Injecting Aggression Into The Field At The Right Time.

    Besides, this article has indeed answered my question i was clueless since the last two tests against Australia, "Why is Danish Kaneria in the team anyways?" He's an awful fielder, lets not talk about his batting, besides he has illustrated a rookie act so far this summer.

  • on July 31, 2010, 23:08 GMT

    Kaneria has been disappointing for a while now so his performance in this match comes as no big surprise. The saddest part is that Pakistan has invested 60 precious test matches into developing him as their prime leg spinner. With an average of 34, flatter trajectory, lack of guile and dearth of patience, I'm afraid Pakistan has invested too much with very little reward expected even in the years to come.

  • John_Raj_Mohammad_Singh on July 31, 2010, 22:44 GMT

    Well, being an indian cricket fan, at least this test has some life in it and has been exciting to watch unlike the pathetic run-fest show SSC's pitch put on (stop with the excuses curator, you put up a DEAD pitch). I know it's a young side but c'mon Waqar, give them some credit and don't be down talking like that. I know you're trying to be realistic, but dude, you're the coach...what kinda message does it send to the youngins? Dont say it'll be very very hard, say it's achievable and you'll get there.

  • Gamer100 on July 31, 2010, 22:44 GMT

    Refreshing to see such candor and honesty from the Pakistan camp. Holding players accountable instead of offering excuses. As for Kaneria's disappointing performance, perhaps Ajmal deserves a chance. (Mushtaq Ahmed has Kaneria's totally figured out).

    Speaking of accountability, Kamran Akmal needs to re-evaluated. That 200 run partnership between Collingwood and Morgan was the eventual difference between the sides - and England took full advantage of Kamran's sloppy work.

  • raheem030766 on July 31, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    Wake up Waqar, Ijaz Butt, selectors & PCB - with this batting line up you will not win a single test. You need to get both Yunus Khan and Mohammed Yusuf in the team and possibly Fawad Alam. All the hardwork being done by the fast bowlers is being wasted and if I was them I would go on strike unless the batting line up is changed. Kaneria in my opinion is not being very well managed by the captain. Butt needs to back him because Kaneria can be a match winner. I also think pressure of captaincy is getting to Butt and his batting is suffering, perhaps it is time to change captain again. My XI would be: 1. Salman Butt; 2. Azhar Ali / Imran Farhat, 3. Yunus Khan (captain), 4. Mohammed Yusuf, 5. Umar Akmal, 6. Fawad Alam, 7. Kamran Akmal or another genuine w/k, 8. Mohammed Amir, 9. Umar Gul, 10. Mohammed Asif, 11. Kaneria / Ajmal. I think Umar Amin is talented but not yet ready to play test cricket.

  • on July 31, 2010, 22:32 GMT

    The [fast] bowlers were really tired ? Come on.. the old players played 5 test series. These are young players. And it is just the 3rd (2 against AUS) for pakistan after a long long time. We saw bowlers like malcom marshall bowling for full long session and he played one day too. Yes,you need rest,but in between test or after a series.Not within a series.

  • on July 31, 2010, 21:58 GMT

    I give this team batting.

  • Shahzadhussan on July 31, 2010, 21:40 GMT

    I think S. Butt should force these three fast men to sit out side or even send them back home and bring new talent likes of talent of batting so that team can be really balanced. Pakistan team with scary captain from senior players and an idiot chairman board, dos not deserve the presence of such beautiful bowling attack.

  • Partyman on July 31, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    I wonder what Peter Moores would have said had he been the Pakistani coach. Here is another thought - I guess all Pakistani batsmen need is a couple of test matches in Sri Lanka!! That would get their confidence up, wouldn't it? Also, I wonder how many runs could so the called classy Sri Lankan batsmen would make against this awesome Pakistani attack. Conveniently now, they wouldn't play the Pakistanis due to lop sided schedules!! What a farce!

  • on July 31, 2010, 21:22 GMT

    1947 partition lead one thing, bowlers left with pakistan and batsmen with India. India struggled with their bowlers in srilanka & pakistan with incompetent batsmen in England.

  • gottalovetheraindance on July 31, 2010, 21:15 GMT

    tomorrow is umar akmal's day 2 shine if he doesnt turn up in a big way along with farhat & kamran then Pakistan are going 2 lose inside 4 days

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  • gottalovetheraindance on July 31, 2010, 21:15 GMT

    tomorrow is umar akmal's day 2 shine if he doesnt turn up in a big way along with farhat & kamran then Pakistan are going 2 lose inside 4 days

  • on July 31, 2010, 21:22 GMT

    1947 partition lead one thing, bowlers left with pakistan and batsmen with India. India struggled with their bowlers in srilanka & pakistan with incompetent batsmen in England.

  • Partyman on July 31, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    I wonder what Peter Moores would have said had he been the Pakistani coach. Here is another thought - I guess all Pakistani batsmen need is a couple of test matches in Sri Lanka!! That would get their confidence up, wouldn't it? Also, I wonder how many runs could so the called classy Sri Lankan batsmen would make against this awesome Pakistani attack. Conveniently now, they wouldn't play the Pakistanis due to lop sided schedules!! What a farce!

  • Shahzadhussan on July 31, 2010, 21:40 GMT

    I think S. Butt should force these three fast men to sit out side or even send them back home and bring new talent likes of talent of batting so that team can be really balanced. Pakistan team with scary captain from senior players and an idiot chairman board, dos not deserve the presence of such beautiful bowling attack.

  • on July 31, 2010, 21:58 GMT

    I give this team batting.

  • on July 31, 2010, 22:32 GMT

    The [fast] bowlers were really tired ? Come on.. the old players played 5 test series. These are young players. And it is just the 3rd (2 against AUS) for pakistan after a long long time. We saw bowlers like malcom marshall bowling for full long session and he played one day too. Yes,you need rest,but in between test or after a series.Not within a series.

  • raheem030766 on July 31, 2010, 22:42 GMT

    Wake up Waqar, Ijaz Butt, selectors & PCB - with this batting line up you will not win a single test. You need to get both Yunus Khan and Mohammed Yusuf in the team and possibly Fawad Alam. All the hardwork being done by the fast bowlers is being wasted and if I was them I would go on strike unless the batting line up is changed. Kaneria in my opinion is not being very well managed by the captain. Butt needs to back him because Kaneria can be a match winner. I also think pressure of captaincy is getting to Butt and his batting is suffering, perhaps it is time to change captain again. My XI would be: 1. Salman Butt; 2. Azhar Ali / Imran Farhat, 3. Yunus Khan (captain), 4. Mohammed Yusuf, 5. Umar Akmal, 6. Fawad Alam, 7. Kamran Akmal or another genuine w/k, 8. Mohammed Amir, 9. Umar Gul, 10. Mohammed Asif, 11. Kaneria / Ajmal. I think Umar Amin is talented but not yet ready to play test cricket.

  • Gamer100 on July 31, 2010, 22:44 GMT

    Refreshing to see such candor and honesty from the Pakistan camp. Holding players accountable instead of offering excuses. As for Kaneria's disappointing performance, perhaps Ajmal deserves a chance. (Mushtaq Ahmed has Kaneria's totally figured out).

    Speaking of accountability, Kamran Akmal needs to re-evaluated. That 200 run partnership between Collingwood and Morgan was the eventual difference between the sides - and England took full advantage of Kamran's sloppy work.

  • John_Raj_Mohammad_Singh on July 31, 2010, 22:44 GMT

    Well, being an indian cricket fan, at least this test has some life in it and has been exciting to watch unlike the pathetic run-fest show SSC's pitch put on (stop with the excuses curator, you put up a DEAD pitch). I know it's a young side but c'mon Waqar, give them some credit and don't be down talking like that. I know you're trying to be realistic, but dude, you're the coach...what kinda message does it send to the youngins? Dont say it'll be very very hard, say it's achievable and you'll get there.

  • on July 31, 2010, 23:08 GMT

    Kaneria has been disappointing for a while now so his performance in this match comes as no big surprise. The saddest part is that Pakistan has invested 60 precious test matches into developing him as their prime leg spinner. With an average of 34, flatter trajectory, lack of guile and dearth of patience, I'm afraid Pakistan has invested too much with very little reward expected even in the years to come.