England v Pakistan, 2nd npower Test, Edgbaston, 1st day August 6, 2010

Pakistan perform like the Bangladesh of old

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Anyone who witnessed that execrable contest at the SSC last week will agree that Test cricket is at its best when bowlers are backed by conditions that act as bait, and batsmen are forced to battle like salmon on the end of a hook. What took place on the first day at Edgbaston, however, was more akin to lobbing a stick of dynamite into a reservoir. It took a measure of skill for England's bowlers to land their projectiles in the right area, but as soon as they'd done so, the struggle was as good as over.

Twice in five days Pakistan have set new record lows for Test innings against England, having themselves triggered the current trend for double-figure dismissals by detonating Australia's batting for 88 at Headingley. The thrill of that contest, however, came in the manner in which the Aussies battled back for the remainder of the match, clawing at every half-chance going to end up a tantalising three wickets adrift. Pakistan, however, have already squandered five chances of varying degrees of difficulty in 34.2 overs of England's first innings. The prospect of a fightback is as insubstantial as Zulqarnain Haider's current Test average.

Five Tests have been completed in England this summer - and only one of them has so far been taken to five days. Incredibly, given that teams with the reputation of Australia and Pakistan have been in town, it is the ever-lampooned Bangladeshis who have put up the fiercest fight, with Tamim Iqbal's outrageously gung-ho century at Lord's provoking his team-mates into the sort of resistance that this series is now crying out for. Ironically, Pakistan set their stalls for survival in this contest with Azhar Ali and Imran Farhat recording two of the slowest ducks of all time, but the team simply lacked the class to translate their resistance into progress.

Mohammad Yousuf may yet be the man to inject Pakistan with some much-needed knowhow - his career average against England is 70, just two runs shy of his team-mates' grand total in this first innings. But as Tamim went on to demonstrate in a one-man show in Bangladesh's second Test at Old Trafford, a personal tour de force is irrelevant if your colleagues don't have the technique or temperament to survive.

Pakistan have been here before of course. In Sharjah back in 2002-03, they played the first of their now-habitual neutral series against Australia, and crumbled to twin scores of 59 and 53 in an ignominious second Test at Sharjah. Then as now, the feebleness of their batting disguised the enduring excellence of their seemingly unending production-line of fast bowling, with the finest spell of Shoaib Akhtar's career going unrewarded in the first Test in Colombo. Now as then, we must hope they will come again, just as they did to everyone's astonishment at Headingley last month. But the facts of the present make hugely unpalatable reading all the same.

"We've been doing this all our lives and we have to clean up our own mess," said a crestfallen captain, Salman Butt, who fronted up with the same sense of duty that he has shown throughout his brief tenure as captain, but whose authority is being eroded by the day - with Yousuf's formidable presence cramping him on the one hand, and his own series tally of 16 runs in three innings undermining him on the other. His decision to bat first in grim grey conditions was not his finest, either, even if, as an opening batsman, it did demonstrate an admirable willingness to lead his team from the front.

"It's been like this since we've come here, we haven't had one day with sunshine," he added. "This pitch will not change. Given these conditions the ball will keep on swinging, so the idea was to put some runs on the board and let the other side get them. It was a positive move, but it didn't happen for us. But they still bowled brilliantly, back-to-back performances require great efforts and that's what they did."

For England, it was simply business as usual, not least for Stuart Broad, who played here a fortnight ago for Nottinghamshire and picked up career-best figures of 8 for 52, before extending that recent ground record to a remarkable 12 for 90. "It was slow and hard to drive on, so if you created pressure it meant they had to play shots at balls that weren't there," he said. "They had a 24-ball nought and a 32-ball nought, so that tells you it was quite hard to score on, but also a testament to how we bowled and the disciplines we stuck to."

England, in fairness, were excellent insofar as they needed to be. Half-trackers were non-existent as the three seamers stuck to their Trent Bridge gameplan of containment for containment's sake, and a sixth consecutive Test victory is surely now an inevitability. "We're putting huge amounts of pressure on the Pakistan batting line-up," said Broad. "We're bowling fantastically well, and we've had slightly cloudy conditions which have suited us. We've not given them a sniff."

But for the good of Test cricket, and even for England's own long-term benefit, a bit more resistance from Pakistan would not go amiss. While stalemates of the SSC variety are the greatest menace to the game, a fundamental lack of competitivity runs a close second. Bangladesh have been accused of cheapening Test cricket for years, but at least in the last few seasons they have learned the necessary application to take a game the full distance. Pakistan on the other hand, like West Indies, seem worryingly intent on unlearning those same disciplines, and given the mighty heritage of that pair in particular, it is a distinctly unnerving development.

If Edgbaston's half-built and half-full ground had similar foundations to the Pakistan team, then outright demolition would be the only viable option. Broad, however, scoffed at the notion that life was getting too cushy for him and his team. "As the opposition I don't have any sympathy," he said. "English fans are very supportive of their teams, so I hope people wouldn't lose interest because we are dominating.

"I'm sure an Australian public wouldn't lose interest when their team was winning comprehensively in the 1990s," he added. "But it's important that we continue to play exciting cricket. The Trent Bridge Test was a great Test to watch. If you batted well there were runs to be scored, but if you bowled in the final third you were in with a chance. The feedback I've got from friends and family is that it's been a good series to watch, and long may that continue."

It has certainly been compelling viewing so far, but the narrative could do with another twist sometime soon.

Andrew Miller is UK editor of Cricinfo.

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  • Faisal_Iqbal on August 9, 2010, 12:10 GMT

    I guess Mr. Miller was too eager to write this column. He did not not wait for Pakistan's second innings. Zulqarnain's innings has given Pakisntan their pride back. And for Miller: IN YOUR FACE!!!

  • plmx on August 8, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    Andrew, I always enjoy your writings. They are soooo good. :). But here you have done a dis-service to the Bangladesh of old! At least they were local club cricketer standard and not the standard of relegated village cricketers, which is what you are implying here. (please, all village cricketers, do not jump in all at once!). If you recall Bangladesh of old had many "shoot from the hip" variety batsmen in those days, what with the likes of Habitual Basher and dibbly dobbly Khaled Mahmud - Geoff Boycott's description, not mine……..I have not used your very own K Mahmud's Cricinfo profile as it would be gratuitous violence if repeated here in what is otherwise a family viewing site! Anyway, Pak players are too feeble to match Bangladesh of old at least in this regard. No 24 ball and 32 ball ducks in Bangladesh of old!

  • synergy on August 7, 2010, 19:43 GMT

    Agreed that Pakistan team is not performing well but this does not warrant the stupid comments taht many of us have been sending here. We must understand that playing Test cricket requires a high level of fitness level, strong mental approach and technical perfection. This can only be achieved if we play regular test matches both at home and away which in our case is not happening because of the reluctance of other teams to come to Pakistan due to security reasons. This added to the fact that our team is undergoing a re building fase is the root cause of them performing so badly. The bowling Alhamdollilah has come up and I am confidant the batting line up will also come up Insha Allah, the team needs our support and backing. It is at these times that we should stand with them and avoid discouraging them. Constructive analysis is OK and welcome but all the eubbish that is being written will get us no where so please guys, have some paitence and support the team.

  • dhoni_hater on August 7, 2010, 16:37 GMT

    please guess pakistan team with out their bowlers.. amir,asif,gul. the team gets worse than forever.. Pakistan get some bit of breath from their spear head under waqar coaching.. sack salman and bring yousuf,younis,hammed,misbah,razzaq,kamran.. kamran replacement got duck.. its fair to keep akmal he can score few boundaries.. Few boundaries better than duck..

  • dhoni_hater on August 7, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    @AhmadSaleem: You are showing australia won more matches against england.. that world knows champion australia beat england and england low scoring games.. Even pakistan beat australia target is 170 but they need 7 wickets.. poor batting.. how many centuries your batsmen score.. Look at tamim iqbal played in all condition and scored 837 runs this year.. look at your captain salman butt even not equal to bangladesh batsmen tamim and didnt know why you people comparing this pakistan team with bangladesh team.. its shame for bangladesh team..

  • smjr on August 7, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    At the current form Bangladesh will beat Pakistan. Remember Bangladesh is close to victory against Pakistan in a test but thanks to Inzamam and the No:11 batsman we survived. This happen quite a years ago. Sadly we have no batsman of Inzamam calibre in the team. Younus and Yousaf are dropped because Ejaz Butt and Yawar Saeed bow down by a group of players (Malik, Akmal, Salman, Misbah) in Dubai. They must be kick out from the team. Never before in Pakistan PCB is subject to player power because PCB management is only interested in getting heavy salaries. Patron of PCB and President of Pakistan is kindly requested to please remove this ill PCB management immediately because World Cup is very near. Make Lt. General (Rtd) Tauqir Zia or some one neutral figure such as Fakhr Ibrahim as PCB chief, Miandad or Haroon as Chief Coach, Intikhab as Permanent Manager and Aamir Suhail as Chief Selector and allow every one to work independently and without any influence.

  • on August 7, 2010, 16:08 GMT

    ICC should review the Status of Pakistan's test. Also Pakistanis should think of changing their PCB members as they have showed how to make a good cricketers to a worst cricketers in the world, now only pak is best in their bowling but they have to get their wickets either by LBW or bowled. pak is having a fielders who is no good than Zim's 1 std kids.and batsmen less capable than Afg's batsmen.their fielders are really putting down the best bowlers of the world that will put the bowlers confidence down which will force their bowlers to be the worst ones in the world under the best bowler of the world - WAQAR YOUNIS.

  • TheBestTeamWins on August 7, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    @Mr. Ahmadsaleem , I accept pakistan is good at home. But the pitches in pakistan are dead and are not very competetive. Also i accept the fact for srilanka too. They have very les number of games outside srilanka and they claim that they are a good team scoring 400 500 in dead pitcches. You are putting in statistics that wont help pakistan win this test. Plus bowling aloen is not required , if u claim that australia won those test matches only cos of bowling then you are not watching the match keenly. What the australian bowlers defending is a competetive score put on by batsmen. Yes pakistan batsmen need exposure but does their fielding needs too????

  • vikramreddytric on August 7, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    There is no words to say about current Pakistan Test Team. I think Bangladesh is far better than Pakistan.. Atleast even if they lose the match, they score min 150+ runs.. Look at the Pakistan Team.. Azhar Ali, Umar Amin who averages not more than 15 in Test Cricket.. Its so funny to watch when they bat.. I think Indian Domestic Players are far better than this Players.. Its very simple for the bowlers when these 2 players come to bat.. Just tight the Slip & Gully region.. They will be gone in 5-6 overs :-))))))))))). Wake Up Paki's

  • smjr on August 7, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    Every country has mindset and plan when playing test matches. Over the of years Pakistan team performed always untimely in test especially in batting when there is no pressure. Looking at Pakistan domestic cricket there is no competition and players are not accustomed to pressure situation. Technique and talent is important but it is determination, patience, concentration that required in test match. Also how quickly batsman adjust according to playing condition and pitch is also matter a lot.These abilities has been shown by players like Toufiq Umer, Asim Kamal, Fawad Alam. This is the job of Coaches and Managers which I am afraid not been done by Waqar & Ijaz. It is also not clear whether Mohsin Khan select this team or Ijaz Butt and Yawar saeed. I am sorry to say that the team is wrongly selected for this important tour and it seems that Lahore group of Ejaz Butt, Yawar seed, Shafqat Rana is in business very strongly and this is causing players of other cities to suffer.

  • Faisal_Iqbal on August 9, 2010, 12:10 GMT

    I guess Mr. Miller was too eager to write this column. He did not not wait for Pakistan's second innings. Zulqarnain's innings has given Pakisntan their pride back. And for Miller: IN YOUR FACE!!!

  • plmx on August 8, 2010, 8:38 GMT

    Andrew, I always enjoy your writings. They are soooo good. :). But here you have done a dis-service to the Bangladesh of old! At least they were local club cricketer standard and not the standard of relegated village cricketers, which is what you are implying here. (please, all village cricketers, do not jump in all at once!). If you recall Bangladesh of old had many "shoot from the hip" variety batsmen in those days, what with the likes of Habitual Basher and dibbly dobbly Khaled Mahmud - Geoff Boycott's description, not mine……..I have not used your very own K Mahmud's Cricinfo profile as it would be gratuitous violence if repeated here in what is otherwise a family viewing site! Anyway, Pak players are too feeble to match Bangladesh of old at least in this regard. No 24 ball and 32 ball ducks in Bangladesh of old!

  • synergy on August 7, 2010, 19:43 GMT

    Agreed that Pakistan team is not performing well but this does not warrant the stupid comments taht many of us have been sending here. We must understand that playing Test cricket requires a high level of fitness level, strong mental approach and technical perfection. This can only be achieved if we play regular test matches both at home and away which in our case is not happening because of the reluctance of other teams to come to Pakistan due to security reasons. This added to the fact that our team is undergoing a re building fase is the root cause of them performing so badly. The bowling Alhamdollilah has come up and I am confidant the batting line up will also come up Insha Allah, the team needs our support and backing. It is at these times that we should stand with them and avoid discouraging them. Constructive analysis is OK and welcome but all the eubbish that is being written will get us no where so please guys, have some paitence and support the team.

  • dhoni_hater on August 7, 2010, 16:37 GMT

    please guess pakistan team with out their bowlers.. amir,asif,gul. the team gets worse than forever.. Pakistan get some bit of breath from their spear head under waqar coaching.. sack salman and bring yousuf,younis,hammed,misbah,razzaq,kamran.. kamran replacement got duck.. its fair to keep akmal he can score few boundaries.. Few boundaries better than duck..

  • dhoni_hater on August 7, 2010, 16:31 GMT

    @AhmadSaleem: You are showing australia won more matches against england.. that world knows champion australia beat england and england low scoring games.. Even pakistan beat australia target is 170 but they need 7 wickets.. poor batting.. how many centuries your batsmen score.. Look at tamim iqbal played in all condition and scored 837 runs this year.. look at your captain salman butt even not equal to bangladesh batsmen tamim and didnt know why you people comparing this pakistan team with bangladesh team.. its shame for bangladesh team..

  • smjr on August 7, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    At the current form Bangladesh will beat Pakistan. Remember Bangladesh is close to victory against Pakistan in a test but thanks to Inzamam and the No:11 batsman we survived. This happen quite a years ago. Sadly we have no batsman of Inzamam calibre in the team. Younus and Yousaf are dropped because Ejaz Butt and Yawar Saeed bow down by a group of players (Malik, Akmal, Salman, Misbah) in Dubai. They must be kick out from the team. Never before in Pakistan PCB is subject to player power because PCB management is only interested in getting heavy salaries. Patron of PCB and President of Pakistan is kindly requested to please remove this ill PCB management immediately because World Cup is very near. Make Lt. General (Rtd) Tauqir Zia or some one neutral figure such as Fakhr Ibrahim as PCB chief, Miandad or Haroon as Chief Coach, Intikhab as Permanent Manager and Aamir Suhail as Chief Selector and allow every one to work independently and without any influence.

  • on August 7, 2010, 16:08 GMT

    ICC should review the Status of Pakistan's test. Also Pakistanis should think of changing their PCB members as they have showed how to make a good cricketers to a worst cricketers in the world, now only pak is best in their bowling but they have to get their wickets either by LBW or bowled. pak is having a fielders who is no good than Zim's 1 std kids.and batsmen less capable than Afg's batsmen.their fielders are really putting down the best bowlers of the world that will put the bowlers confidence down which will force their bowlers to be the worst ones in the world under the best bowler of the world - WAQAR YOUNIS.

  • TheBestTeamWins on August 7, 2010, 16:06 GMT

    @Mr. Ahmadsaleem , I accept pakistan is good at home. But the pitches in pakistan are dead and are not very competetive. Also i accept the fact for srilanka too. They have very les number of games outside srilanka and they claim that they are a good team scoring 400 500 in dead pitcches. You are putting in statistics that wont help pakistan win this test. Plus bowling aloen is not required , if u claim that australia won those test matches only cos of bowling then you are not watching the match keenly. What the australian bowlers defending is a competetive score put on by batsmen. Yes pakistan batsmen need exposure but does their fielding needs too????

  • vikramreddytric on August 7, 2010, 16:05 GMT

    There is no words to say about current Pakistan Test Team. I think Bangladesh is far better than Pakistan.. Atleast even if they lose the match, they score min 150+ runs.. Look at the Pakistan Team.. Azhar Ali, Umar Amin who averages not more than 15 in Test Cricket.. Its so funny to watch when they bat.. I think Indian Domestic Players are far better than this Players.. Its very simple for the bowlers when these 2 players come to bat.. Just tight the Slip & Gully region.. They will be gone in 5-6 overs :-))))))))))). Wake Up Paki's

  • smjr on August 7, 2010, 15:56 GMT

    Every country has mindset and plan when playing test matches. Over the of years Pakistan team performed always untimely in test especially in batting when there is no pressure. Looking at Pakistan domestic cricket there is no competition and players are not accustomed to pressure situation. Technique and talent is important but it is determination, patience, concentration that required in test match. Also how quickly batsman adjust according to playing condition and pitch is also matter a lot.These abilities has been shown by players like Toufiq Umer, Asim Kamal, Fawad Alam. This is the job of Coaches and Managers which I am afraid not been done by Waqar & Ijaz. It is also not clear whether Mohsin Khan select this team or Ijaz Butt and Yawar saeed. I am sorry to say that the team is wrongly selected for this important tour and it seems that Lahore group of Ejaz Butt, Yawar seed, Shafqat Rana is in business very strongly and this is causing players of other cities to suffer.

  • AbuMuawwiz on August 7, 2010, 15:50 GMT

    Dear Andrew staruss, pls pls declare innings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!itz enough for salman bhutt pakistan!!!!!!!!!!!! we dont want huge margin defeat...plz 150+ is enough

  • JS82 on August 7, 2010, 15:25 GMT

    I cant believe that the only 2 current Pakistani batsmen with 50+ avg in test are not event in the team. I do not know how PCB think tank works, but I find it very dumbfounded. Pakistan's bowling attack is awesome. I wish Bangladesh had Aamer and Asif to lead our pace attack. We would have won more matches. I have noticed all subcontinent teams besides SriLanka have a rather lackluster attitude towards fielding practices when you compare it to the likes of South Africa or Australia.

  • on August 7, 2010, 15:06 GMT

    This series is ofcourse 4-0 , some jooyus mments for karthik from chennai as his team won today and pakistan about to lose this match with an innings and some 200 runs. Its a sad story how in last 3 years pakistan has reached new depths. As a fan u support one team but as a cricket fan u appreciate all the good cricket played around.Pakistan at a moment is a batting team with their bowlers batting well than their batsmen do. England have not lost a series for quite some time and pakistan hasnt won anything for eons now. There is no comparison between the teams under any condition, england is a world better than pakistan. banglash has a better batting lineup i have to admit today and has a very very good allrounder in shakib ul hassan, they have been a test team for more than a decade now , so lets not say they are still minnows , they have played enough cricket to get some recognition.

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 14:19 GMT

    Look at the record of Pakistanis at home. They have also performed better then many teams outside home. Many other teams also struggle in alien conditions. They have not been playing at home for a while therefore they are looking very bad side. How many times have SriLanka, West Indies, Newzealand and England beaten Australia outside their territory? Lets not forget that England were bundled out at 51 by Jerome Taylor and co. Mr. Miller didnt write anything then

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 14:06 GMT

    3rd Test: Pakistan v England at Lahore - Nov 29-Dec 3, 2005

    Pakistan won by an innings and 100 runs

    England 288 and 248; Pakistan 636/8d

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 14:05 GMT

    1st Test: Pakistan v England at Multan - Nov 12-16, 2005

    Pakistan won by 22 runs

    Pakistan 274 and 341; England 418 and 175

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 14:00 GMT

    5th Test: Australia v England at Sydney - Jan 2-5, 2007

    Australia won by 10 wickets

    England 291 and 147; Australia 393 and 46/0

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    4th Test: Australia v England at Melbourne - Dec 26-28, 2006

    Australia won by an innings and 99 runs

    England 159 and 161; Australia 419

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 13:59 GMT

    3rd Test: Australia v England at Perth - Dec 14-18, 2006

    Australia won by 206 runs

    Australia 244 and 527/5d; England 215 and 350

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    2nd Test: Australia v England at Adelaide - Dec 1-5, 2006

    Australia won by 6 wickets

    England 551/6d and 129; Australia 513 and 168/4

  • AhmadSaleem on August 7, 2010, 13:58 GMT

    1st Test: Australia v England at Brisbane - Nov 23-27, 2006

    Australia won by 277 runs

    Australia 602/9d and 202/1d; England 157 and 370

  • Aussasinator on August 7, 2010, 13:36 GMT

    The Pak batting line up requires some time and grooming and exposure. If they keep another emerging quick bowler ready in the assembly line, then they can win on the strength of their bowling alone, like when they beat Australia in England.

    Coming to think of it, in England, even I would like to bowl to Australian batsmen for a living !

  • on August 7, 2010, 13:30 GMT

    Mr.Talha

    Think about it rationally Mumbai batsmen like Jaffer, Rohan and Abhishek Nair are very good bat compared to the current Pakistani team....as for Delhi they have Sehwag, gambir, dhawan ...very good batting line up

  • on August 7, 2010, 13:07 GMT

    I m a die hard Indian cricket fan but i want to mention one important thing here.....Dont forget this pakistani side is new and without much experience...they hv defeated Australia recently but crumbled thereafter...I think they need some time to settle so instead of criticizing this Side ..lets pray for them n hope they ll do better in the second inning n I reckon these will challenge england in the second innings

  • dmqi on August 7, 2010, 12:51 GMT

    OK, it is time to forecast the result. England will win by innings and 120 runs . Asif and Amir will give up soon, what's the point trying.

    Pakistan can hire Tamim and Sakib from Bangladesh. They can help Pak team scoring some runs and taking few wickets.

  • karthikfromchennai on August 7, 2010, 12:34 GMT

    Pakis dont even desrve a one off test....but 4 test match series....its really tooooo much for them,

  • karthikfromchennai on August 7, 2010, 12:31 GMT

    England has already taken 70+ runs lead in first innings. They could declare and win the match by an innings....Should be able to bowl out paki under 70. They have the proven attack. Go for the win Jamie and co...

  • karthikfromchennai on August 7, 2010, 12:18 GMT

    Pak could beat their own record in a week....this time for the lowest ever score Vs Eng.

  • karthikfromchennai on August 7, 2010, 12:17 GMT

    Why pak is playing so worse? where do they stand in Asia when it comes to Test cricket?

  • karthikfromchennai on August 7, 2010, 12:15 GMT

    Probably Pak should tour to Bangladesh and play first class matches against local clubs. This will do something to their bowling.

  • on August 7, 2010, 11:34 GMT

    all Pakistan really needs is a stell nerved captain at the top. y&y should be forgotten and a few really good batsmen should be picked up(even if they are 17 yr old)....if not now, within 2-3 yrs this team will beat the worldd

  • dhoni_hater on August 7, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    It is unfair to compare this pakistan team and its captaincy with bangladesh... Bangladesh is best team compare to this pakistan team.. Bangladesh have solid opener Tamim iqbal better than pakistan opener salman butt... One funny thing about present pakistan team is salman butt is worst for test cricket. He is the captain.. and how the team will improve?

  • on August 7, 2010, 10:40 GMT

    When Australia were bundled out for 88 in Leeds, nobody was making comparisons with Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. When we get out for a similar score, we don't deserve to be test nation!!!

    How sad and biased from most of the critics.

  • on August 7, 2010, 10:28 GMT

    wrong decision to drop kamran, he iis and forever be the greatest wicketkeeper batsman pakistan has ever produced...

  • mahi79 on August 7, 2010, 10:23 GMT

    One suggestion for Pakistan team Management.. As a Indian, I would love to see Indo-Pak series, but Pakistan continues failure in the batting will make not contest between these two teams. Let the team take a break from Intl. cricket. After that they must play India, since they rise their level of playing only aganist then and all the team members get united aganist us...

    So, better option for PCB to look into. Surely Salman Butt & co will score aganist India..

  • Shammi_Shafi on August 7, 2010, 10:23 GMT

    I think Pakistan cricket deserve this type of humilation as they never honor their great players and no proper infrastructure in grass-root level, no proper ground, not introducing latest techniques, tall talks (Salman Butt and Waqar as they are confident of these young talented team!!), corruption in player selection, interior feud and so many issues. My advice to PCB please stop fool about yourself and do not destroy cricket, do something for your country.

  • synergy on August 7, 2010, 10:06 GMT

    The tour management keeps backing the youngsters, I think Umer Amin & Azhar are good prospect and should be given a long run. Persisting with Malik in the XI is mind bogling his last 11 innings has yielded only 211 runs @10.09 per innings yet he integral part of the team while Yasir & Fawad are left out. Keeping Malik in the touring party will also have a negative effect on the team because he is an instigator he should be immediately replaced by Younis. I an also concerned about Imran in consistancy & lack of techneque to handle swing. He has now been given a very long run since the New eland tour playing in all 10 teast matcjes / 19 innings and only managing 1 century and 3 scoires over 50, His tally of runs in these matches are 564 @ 28.68 per innings which does not justify his inclusion in the playing I. I personally feel that we should change the whole batting line up which shoule be Salman. Yasir, Azhar, Yousuf, Fawad, U Amin, Zulqarnain, Gul, Amir, Asif & Ajmal.

  • onmirza on August 7, 2010, 10:02 GMT

    There is only one solution of Pakistan cricket. We desperately need Hitler for nonsense PCB and their relatives in the team.

  • sonjjay on August 7, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    Although the situation is too bleak but i guess we must be patient with Pakistan team. Being an Indian i know how they have produced great competitors over the years. Sadly they are on a decline but they need to be more correct at the grassroots and overhaul the domestic structure. They have a very sharp cricketing mind in Imran Khan who should head the PCB, I think he is the only one who can stem the rot in Pakistan cricket.

  • Qureshigm on August 7, 2010, 9:22 GMT

    Well I still believe that Pakistan has got talent. This same team beat Australia and it was due to good fielding all the match... Pakistan needs to learn the fielding... Maybe a fielding coach is needed. Only problem with Pakistan Batting is Experience. They are Inexperienced side and they will make mistakes with the bat but with fielding its painful... Pakistan could easily have made life miserable of England players and Fans had they taken those chances...

  • on August 7, 2010, 9:14 GMT

    Pls.. Pls.. could someone kindly tell Pakistan cricket board. to cancel all their test tours around the world.. the can substitute it with T20 & ODI, so that the viewers can enjoy atleast.. we are getting sick of this new standards of PAK by making new records with double digits..

  • shaantanu on August 7, 2010, 9:06 GMT

    Mr miller its sad that u have to bring in Bdesh to suggest how abysmally pakistani batsman have performed.i wud say give bangladesh a break.they performed much better in eng than this pakistan team.......neways being an indian one wud think i m jumping up n down with joy.not really.sad to see such spineless performance from an asian team.but i guess theres still time left in this series and also in this match for pakistan to show some resolve before ppl stop coming to the stadium and start showing more interest in some boring county match.

  • on August 7, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    Thank you very much Mr. Hirok to say truth. I believed Bangladesh would be a stronger team than westindes, New Zeland and Pakistan.

    AKBAR

  • swat1999 on August 7, 2010, 8:48 GMT

    I was surprised why they can't play swing balls, whats wrong, whats the panic? veery long time i never see they score 250 runs an innings.... forget about 350 runs. they only deserve to loose their supporters... thy loose all th way catching, fielding, batting, etc, etc...

  • kvirdi on August 7, 2010, 8:37 GMT

    I do agree with @usman_nile1994 that it's board who should be responsible as they have left the good player out and selected on with favour. It's not only Pak problem but same here in India. If you see Irfan Pathan is not playing any international cricket (atleast T20 and ODIs) even though he is the only medium pace all rounder and can produce better results than likes of Ishant and Munaf in T20s and ODIs. He is out of favour and that is bad for world cricket.

    Bring back Younis Khan, he is not only fantastic No-3 bat but a very good human being too. When chips are down they put these guys in to show case their talent. Also, PCB is responsible for Afridi retirement. You can't do this unjustice to fans ...

    Kamaljeet Singh, an Indian, a true cricket fan

  • on August 7, 2010, 7:39 GMT

    How strange to feel totally depressed when England bowl a team out for 70. But I was. its going to be another 2.5 day whitewash. People have to pay 60 quid for watch this rubbish at the ground; there will be virtually no enjoyment in watching England make a big score and Pakistan dropping catches left-right and centre. We should cancel the rest of the series and the player can get some county practice in and those out of form can attempt to find some again!

  • Mafujar on August 7, 2010, 7:38 GMT

    We the cricket lovers are in deep regret by the performance by Pakistan's current team. It hard to believe that the team is Pakistan, it's not even the shadow of the Great Inzy led Pak team. All they are waste in the current team. If Amer, Asif and Gul are in Indian team India will be truly unbeatable. Sorry for you genius guys. Umar Akmal was my favorite when he came in but not i feel that it was an accident although he is truly talented. For me to put the Pak team to it's place the following must be done immediately. 1) Recall Yunus Khan, Asim Kamal, Faisal Iqbal (it's good yusuf is already recalled) 2) Make Inzi the batting coach. 3) Pak board must stop their comedy. 4) The young guns need to learn how to spend time in wicket and make runs in difficult condition. They can get the example of Steve Waugh.

    Any way good luck for the 3rd test.

  • on August 7, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    You don't get anywhere in sport (or life) without good self-discipline..the prima donnas of the Pakistan set up are all on a big ego trip, and yet it is self defeating since who respects you when you are a loser?

    I hope that Pakistan have a nice sunny couple of days to bat on and get 400, because who wants to watch such a one sided series and England need some good practice before the Aussies..

  • colc on August 7, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    Mr Wog; Broad wasn't on the last Ashes tour. Pakistan have always veered between brilliance and incompetence, mostly, it seems due to chaotic organisation. I think that Bob Woolmer's untimely death was the start of their current demise, as he seemed to have the strength of character to weld them into an effective unit. England now seem to have the happy knack of always finding some way of getting out of trouble, as the Aussies used to do. Very few "stand out" players, but a cohesive and happy team, ably lead by Strauss, with Andy Flower and his back up staff doing a brilliant job.

  • MaazMany on August 7, 2010, 7:11 GMT

    Not only Pak Cricketers but also the Pak supporters' heads came down by shame due to such shameless performance twice a week. Such rediculus low score records never been made by any team in the world except this team in the leadership of a shameless captain "Butt". It doesn't digest, how he made captain, who doesn't even deserve his place in the team? I'm going to send such a harsh commented mail to PCB to wake them up from deep sleep, coz PAK test cricket is under serious threat now. If they didn't wake-up now, it'll be so late, coz ICC will re-consider the PAK Test status & shall be put on hold on may cancel their Test status. Reading Chris Broad's comments really ashaming for PAK cricketers and supporters as well, as he said that, winning the match is fantastic but it's not good for Test cricket, as if Test cricket in danger.I suggest to fire Salmn Butt not only from captaincy but from the team & 2 Ys, Misbah, Yasir Hameed, Asim Kamal, Abdul Razzaq should be replaced immediately.

  • on August 7, 2010, 6:59 GMT

    bring yasir hameed and yousuf in the next test...

  • cyberstudent on August 7, 2010, 6:46 GMT

    i completely agree with usman_nile1994, Pakistan cricket team selection procedure is full of favoritism, there are many domestic players who are better than most of the players playing in this test matches,

    just check this

    http://stats.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/records/batting/most_runs_career.html?id=5524;type=tournament

  • banglamade on August 7, 2010, 6:23 GMT

    @Hirok & Shahilll- Love u guys...thats the truth...our batsmen had 2 centuries 5-6 half centuries against england in england...paki batsmen r worse than amir & gul(in batting performance mind u)

  • on August 7, 2010, 6:03 GMT

    Younas Khan is the need of the team

  • Hirok on August 7, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    bangladesh is better than pakistan

  • usman_nile1994 on August 7, 2010, 5:05 GMT

    All those who are criticizing Pak's team performances criticize Pakistan Cricket Board. All Cricket Board select the best players available in the country (even Bang Zim WI). But Pak Board's selection is not based on merit but on heavy favouritism. You can see Shoaib Malik who is such a low class cricketer. Out of 50 innings he performs only in 1. Imran Farhat is also the example even his 67 against Aus in 2nd test was because of Watson's drop catch. Farhat's father-in-law has relations with PCB. The Akmal brothers Malik are the main antagonists. They spread fighting in team. The young players they have selected are good but there were better youngsters than Azhar and Amin. If there was a honest board then the team would have been 1 S.Butt/Yasir Hameed 2. Taufeeq Umar 3. Younis Khan 4. Mohammad Yousuf 5. Asim Kamal 6. Umar Akmal/Yasir Hameed (if any of Butt or Akmal play bad replace them with Hameed) 7. Sarfraz Ahmed 8. Saeed Ajmal 9 M.Aamer 10. U.Gul 11. Asif

  • on August 7, 2010, 4:45 GMT

    It is sham for Pakistan Cricket team and board. They are making records, yes these are records, but shameful records. but, S.Butt is insisting on new player. go to hell with your new players, you are insisting on new players because you need captaincy, and that's why you are insisting for a long term captaincy with new players. As S.Butt, U.Akmal, Umar Amin, Azhar Ali, and above all Shoaib Malik is not performing for along time, almost four test matches, than they should kill them selves and suicide in a drop of water!!!!!! Younis Khan don't worry, The ones who dig trenches for others will find themselves in it.

    YOUNIS KHAN, YOU ARE OUR HERO and YOU WILL BE BACK SOON!!!!!!!!!!

  • SHAHILLL on August 7, 2010, 4:44 GMT

    To be Honest , Pakistani batsmen should learn from Bangladesh's Batsmen who at least made more than 250 while they had tour in england earlier. Pakistan should stop to play test. If ICC has consider standard of cricket then Pakistan should play against Zimbabwe for qualifying in test arena. I really want to make Salute Shahid Afridi why he drop down his bat for test....If current pakistani's batsmen has a bit shame then they must be out from test cricket. They are not at all deserved for test cricket. MUST REMOVED FACTOR : Shoaib Malik (He can play with only Sania Mirza) Imran Farhat : Better find the good job and settle down , why you are wasting your time and spoiling cricket. Umar Akmal : Temporary Success becomes as you are genius but Now, Look at down . It's not Easy Had ever seen record of Genius Such as Sachin, Inzi, Lara, & Ponting. Kamran Akmal : 1st get some of Baby Hen and practice which make it easier to collect ball behind the wicket.UMAR AMIN : Please go back domestic

  • nrravid on August 7, 2010, 4:23 GMT

    It is easy to criticize. Main problem is PCB's administration. It is high time cricket lovers in Pakistan organize a long march (similar to what Nawaz Sheriff did for reinstatement of chief justice) for sacking Ijaz Butt. He is the source of all problem. There is no dearth of talent in Pakistan. What they require is a proper guide to take the youngsters to the next level. Guys like Umar Akmal should take inspiration from greats in his own country and current bunch across the world like Sachin, Ponting, Dravid, etc., A statment from Md. Yousuff statng "Let us forget the past and work together to restore the pride" would do a long way in arresting the slide. I think these are important steps that will help the team to get back to their old days. ALL THE BEST. - Ravichandran, Chennai, India.

  • Shafaaqat on August 7, 2010, 4:09 GMT

    Poor batting performance no doubt but one must bear in mind that the team is in rebuilding process and there are issues with selection too, Shoaib Malik who has badly let down the team and reputation over all is still there. I won'tmind trying youngsters but there is no point in sticking with Farhat and Malik, they must be thrown out, all garbage. Its a bit unfair to compare with Bangladesh as we are the team who defeated Australia under same conditions. Had the fielding been better, England would have been in disarray too both in this and previous game. As far as Ranji teams are concerned, we all know how Indians play in such conditions. They are good for Ranji and IPL :)

  • The_Wog on August 7, 2010, 2:37 GMT

    Where does Broad get off talking about his team in the same breath at the legendary AUS sides? The greatest ratio of arrogance / merit in the history of the game. Wasn't he there while losing 5-0 away from home not that long ago?

  • Al-Entity on August 7, 2010, 2:31 GMT

    I have often wondered why England never give 4 or 5 test series to Sri Lanka while giving plenty of 4 or 5 test series to Pakistan and West Indies. Watching the batting performance of Pakistan in this match now I can see WHY! lol

  • lucyferr on August 7, 2010, 1:52 GMT

    "Five Tests have been completed in England this summer - and only one of them has so far been taken to five days"... I hope nobody's complaining - Test matches that finish fast, especially with batting collapses, are so much better than five-day run-fest draws. Of course, the TV companies will complain, but they could fill in the remaining five days with good stuff they wouldn't otherwise show, like beach volleyball or women's cricket.

  • on August 7, 2010, 0:49 GMT

    My only concern is that . how these young guns will learn how to play in these conditions. No one has the clue waqar & Aqib are bowlers and Ijaz we all know how correct was his own technique. Test teams are not made with 20 yr boys they need to mix some experience two Y's should be there . I know we will still lose as we were doing with them in past but at least with them around these young boys will learn something. i am 100% sure that their confidence is now shatter for life they will never recover and will be gone in few months. Great way to start someone's career

  • rohanbala on August 7, 2010, 0:47 GMT

    Not very long ago, after their win against Australia, the performance of this Pakistan team was hailed as "the Beginning of a New Era". This should actually be the beginning of a new era for double digit total scores and single digit contributions by the team led by Salman Butt. Unless players like Salim Malik (hailed as an allrounder) are sacked, this team will vie with Bangladesh to reach the bottom.

  • on August 7, 2010, 0:08 GMT

    I would have loved to see guys like Imran Farhat and Salman Butt come out and sahow some character.. Nahh I don't think they are worthy enough players...Misbah-ul-haq should be in the team with Mohd. Yousuf and Younis Khan..

  • on August 6, 2010, 23:59 GMT

    i am just laughun on the comments made by salman butt that ameer and asif are the best

    I THNIK KENYA WUD PUT UP A GOOD PERFOMANCE COMPARED TO PAKSTAN

  • Cric.Analysis on August 6, 2010, 23:36 GMT

    Well, well, well.... Mr. Miller, have you forgotten the 5-0 humiliation down under not long ago. If you have, then here's the link for you.... http://www.cricinfo.com/ci/engine/series/249190.html That was a disgrace to test cricket.... Poor Aussie fans were sleeping in the grounds as a lousy team was being hammered by an average Australian team (most of the Aussie greats were past their prime during that series). Did you write about how English team was cheapening the test cricket back then?

  • on August 6, 2010, 23:32 GMT

    Mr.Cherian , that sounds more emotional than rational :)

  • on August 6, 2010, 23:30 GMT

    pakistan cricket is doomed... thats all i can say :(

  • on August 6, 2010, 23:26 GMT

    they performed really poor. their were lots of technical deficiency.

  • on August 6, 2010, 23:17 GMT

    In my view, Team selection was ludicrous. To drop kamran akmal was a brave decision considering half of the team would've faked an injury but to keep Shoaib malik, the chief architect of dirty politics that goes inside the dressing room, was a scandal and shows how Pak cricket is suffering by the hands of an immoral regime that is equally supported by a dummy captain whose job is to keep the team together and prevent any feud between the players instead of leading the team and nurturing talent. The current batting line up has no talent & technique to be successful at the test match level. I wish someone like Imran Khan is born again and reintroduce the patriotism, passion, talent and brains that once were part of our cricketing culture but I guess I wont live long enough to see the former glory. particularly due to the rise of T20 cricket we have to wait considerably long before someone like Javed Miandad, Inzi , Imran Khan and Yusuf rise through the ranks.

  • on August 6, 2010, 23:07 GMT

    I've a proposal that may just resolve the issue and bring some form of normality back into Pakistani ranks within few months. The central contracts should only be offered to those who average atleast 40 in Test cricket - not the career avg but based on the last 10 tests matches played, 35 in ODI's and 20 in T20's again based on the last 20 matches played. For current Pak cricketers' money = motivation and perhaps a thought of losing some of the revenue may force them to improve their technique and performance on and off the pitch. An alternative would be to bring back Inzi, Saeed Anwar, Aamir Sohail, Younis Khan and Rashid Latif, I'm confident that these legends can still do a far better job than the current useless T20 sunday league palyers who were selected only because of their ties with the current regime in charge of Pak cricket.

  • on August 6, 2010, 22:45 GMT

    I agree with you Thomas. Even if it breaks me to admit that.

  • on August 6, 2010, 22:30 GMT

    if i'm not wrong bangladesh got past 300 in 3 innings out of 4, scoring 200+ in the last! they even got around 400 twice. May be this pakistan have better abilities but, i'm sorry, it doesnt look like so at this very moment!

  • on August 6, 2010, 22:23 GMT

    i am thinking our local friends team can bat better then the Pak team currently...its so embarassing....why they cant find batsman in the whole country...they need younis , yousaf and someone like asim kamal for sure...if they make 250 in each innings the bowling line is good enough to make a match out of it....

  • sharprider on August 6, 2010, 22:23 GMT

    Very good insight given by the scribe about the situation as it stands today. It is, however, not the end of the world. There could be some light at the end of the tunnel provided Pakistan's management takes firm stems to eliminate the root cause of all this mess that the team finds itself in. The primary focus should be on Captaincy! Salman should be put on notice that this 'will definitely' be his last one as captain unless he comes up with an extraordinary performance both as the captain and the opening batsman. Also, particular emphasis must be laid on team selection with no other consideration except form and fitness. Special attention should be given to catching practice, specially in the slip cordon. NO AMOUNT OF HARD WORK WOULD BE ENOUGH in this regard because this is imperative for the present series as well as for the forthcoming matches this year, and above all, for the next year's World Cup.

  • Hassan.Farooqi on August 6, 2010, 22:20 GMT

    This is how the team looks without Pathan batsmen. Without Yasir Hameed, Younis Khan, and Shahid Afridi, the team is a joke.

  • rohangetzu on August 6, 2010, 22:12 GMT

    Personally I feel very sad and sorry for the pakistan teams..They are really not upto the international level skills,,I feel sorry for the S.butt decission...wat a dumb captain to go for batting first..he was over confidence,,DOn need to bring yusuf back..include younis and kick kamran akmal out of the team..seriously cant u find a eligible wicket keeper batsmen in your big country..don need of swash buckling keeper they jus need a technically sound batsmen..umar akmal will do the attacking..Seriously yaar jus clean up the whole bunch ofuseless selectors..You have to fight england very hard..I know you pakistan can do that..Come on bring it up guyzzz..Jus rock it..!! All the best..!!

    Cheers , Jus Rohan :-)

  • on August 6, 2010, 21:46 GMT

    If Pakistan played a test match against Bangladesh right now Bangladesh would beat them by an innings within 3 days. Fact.

  • on August 6, 2010, 21:41 GMT

    england will get bowled out for 195 tommorow

  • on August 6, 2010, 21:38 GMT

    I agree that this is the weakest batting line up. Yes, Pakistan lost in Dubai but it was just rare, we did not have a weak batting line up then but this team deserves to play 2nd tier teams. So much for Salman Butt's selfish comments. Test is a game of true players which is why we need guys like Asim, Faisal, Younis, and Yousaf.

  • on August 6, 2010, 21:36 GMT

    bangladeshi have played better than pakistanis their last serise in england. pakistany should learn from bangladesh .

  • muannis on August 6, 2010, 21:31 GMT

    Thanks God! Andrew Miller also knew it. It would be mountainous task for Pakistan to beat Bangladesh either in Pakistan(remembering the last hard fought series in 2003) or in Bangladesh. Bangladesh probably have the best chance to win another test series after West Indies if a series between these two could be arranged.

  • JonRiz on August 6, 2010, 21:29 GMT

    Cum on guyz..why don't u understand. Pak is the most entertaining team in the world. I mean which other team can give you such thrills, drama, comedy...all in one game..unlike other teams which are plain stable and thus very, very boring. I've seen spectators dozing off during other test matches, but when its Pakistan, you are always on the edge of your seat. Can you really get bored and doze-off when all the ten batsmen get out before lunch?

  • JustAGame on August 6, 2010, 21:20 GMT

    Many think that sacking kamran was a good move but not me. Rotating players too much never helps a team. What these new guys need is confidence, if someone out there can tell them that no matter what you guys gonna play for at-least 10 tests and if you play good you can play more would benefit pak cricket more in long run.

  • inzisaloos on August 6, 2010, 21:14 GMT

    The infuriating thing about Pakistan's continuing debacle with the bat is that it was always on the cards from the moment this Test squad was announced. This is not a case of being wise after the event. It was always likely that the batting squad selected for this tour would struggle without the 2 Y's. Indeed, it is baffling how any pundit could support their omission. New players have to be blooded alongside proven quality and experience. They certainly should not be dominating the make up of a Test side which does not include a single batsman averaging 40 or more. No other country in world cricket would be so foolhardy as to throw so many youngsters into the lions den of series against Australia and England and expect them to hold their own. I fear that the Board in half-admitting to their mistake by introducing Yousuf with Pakistan 2 down with 2 to play will not help rescue this series. As for the integrity and foresight of this Board, that has long been beyond rescue.

  • on August 6, 2010, 20:55 GMT

    Andrew miller shouldn't hurt Bangladesh by saying those things..Bangladesh was really new in test at that time.. From today i will not visit cricinfo

  • on August 6, 2010, 20:51 GMT

    Surprisingly true the most unlikely team Bangladesh show real fight and showed England that they are no push over.. took the Lord test to 5th day..their batting line is far better that pakistan at the moment

  • braindead_rocker on August 6, 2010, 20:45 GMT

    Good to see Kamran finally punished for his horrible keeping. Pakistan will bounce back. They need to fight to save this match. Best of luck from your Indian friend.

  • bumsonseats on August 6, 2010, 20:43 GMT

    at notts last week the overhead conditions were the cause of the batting collapses. the wicket was very dry. here today the blame for the wicket must go to the grounds man it was damp, given the overhead conditions it as bound to happen . why was the wicket damp words of the sky wickets pundits botham and warne. in Nottingham the wicket had been under cover for well over a week as it was seen covered in the 20/20 1/4 final televised that was played. so Birmingham had their share of rain, but surely it could have started dry. i like seeing england win but i want a contest. but for the dropped catches england could have been in a spot of trouble. david

  • SnowSnake on August 6, 2010, 20:28 GMT

    I think Pakistan's performance is a symptom of what is to come for test cricket in the future. Most test cricket players are from the era before T20 became popular. As traditional test cricket players retire, test cricket will start to see performance similar to Pak. If players keep on playing in 3 different cricket formats, they will loose their test playing capability because 2 out 3 formats do not encourage batting technique required for 3rd format.

  • avmd on August 6, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    I think Pakistan's test status should be put on hold until there is clear signs of improvement. Why only Zimbabwe was treated like this . I'm sure Zimbabwe would have played better againts Englans than Pak did. Condition inside Pakistan (unfortunately) are not better and the team is even worst than Zimb at the moment. Rashid Latif is right, let Afghanistan play Paksiatn. A 7 match "test" series between the two will be better contested.

  • Ellis on August 6, 2010, 20:20 GMT

    Slow down, Miller, slow down! " Capitulation", Execrable", "Menace", etc., are going way over the top. Were you using that language when England lost to the Aussies five zip? Like all sports, national cricketing skills go in cycles. Pakistan is going through that cycle now but they are far from a useless team. Compare the ages of the two teams and you will see where the experience lies. Pakistan cricket will survive and prosper.

    What, pray tell, do you have to say about the pitch on which the current Sri Lanka/India Test is being played on? All countries have had pitches at various times that were overly slanted towards batting or bowling. Stuff happens. Quit the holier than thou posturing if you want to be taken as a serious commentator on Cricket.

  • on August 6, 2010, 19:50 GMT

    Pakistani batting line up is worse than Bangladesh and West indies. I think an Indian ranji team like Delhi or Mumbai would do better than this

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  • on August 6, 2010, 19:50 GMT

    Pakistani batting line up is worse than Bangladesh and West indies. I think an Indian ranji team like Delhi or Mumbai would do better than this

  • Ellis on August 6, 2010, 20:20 GMT

    Slow down, Miller, slow down! " Capitulation", Execrable", "Menace", etc., are going way over the top. Were you using that language when England lost to the Aussies five zip? Like all sports, national cricketing skills go in cycles. Pakistan is going through that cycle now but they are far from a useless team. Compare the ages of the two teams and you will see where the experience lies. Pakistan cricket will survive and prosper.

    What, pray tell, do you have to say about the pitch on which the current Sri Lanka/India Test is being played on? All countries have had pitches at various times that were overly slanted towards batting or bowling. Stuff happens. Quit the holier than thou posturing if you want to be taken as a serious commentator on Cricket.

  • avmd on August 6, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    I think Pakistan's test status should be put on hold until there is clear signs of improvement. Why only Zimbabwe was treated like this . I'm sure Zimbabwe would have played better againts Englans than Pak did. Condition inside Pakistan (unfortunately) are not better and the team is even worst than Zimb at the moment. Rashid Latif is right, let Afghanistan play Paksiatn. A 7 match "test" series between the two will be better contested.

  • SnowSnake on August 6, 2010, 20:28 GMT

    I think Pakistan's performance is a symptom of what is to come for test cricket in the future. Most test cricket players are from the era before T20 became popular. As traditional test cricket players retire, test cricket will start to see performance similar to Pak. If players keep on playing in 3 different cricket formats, they will loose their test playing capability because 2 out 3 formats do not encourage batting technique required for 3rd format.

  • bumsonseats on August 6, 2010, 20:43 GMT

    at notts last week the overhead conditions were the cause of the batting collapses. the wicket was very dry. here today the blame for the wicket must go to the grounds man it was damp, given the overhead conditions it as bound to happen . why was the wicket damp words of the sky wickets pundits botham and warne. in Nottingham the wicket had been under cover for well over a week as it was seen covered in the 20/20 1/4 final televised that was played. so Birmingham had their share of rain, but surely it could have started dry. i like seeing england win but i want a contest. but for the dropped catches england could have been in a spot of trouble. david

  • braindead_rocker on August 6, 2010, 20:45 GMT

    Good to see Kamran finally punished for his horrible keeping. Pakistan will bounce back. They need to fight to save this match. Best of luck from your Indian friend.

  • on August 6, 2010, 20:51 GMT

    Surprisingly true the most unlikely team Bangladesh show real fight and showed England that they are no push over.. took the Lord test to 5th day..their batting line is far better that pakistan at the moment

  • on August 6, 2010, 20:55 GMT

    Andrew miller shouldn't hurt Bangladesh by saying those things..Bangladesh was really new in test at that time.. From today i will not visit cricinfo

  • inzisaloos on August 6, 2010, 21:14 GMT

    The infuriating thing about Pakistan's continuing debacle with the bat is that it was always on the cards from the moment this Test squad was announced. This is not a case of being wise after the event. It was always likely that the batting squad selected for this tour would struggle without the 2 Y's. Indeed, it is baffling how any pundit could support their omission. New players have to be blooded alongside proven quality and experience. They certainly should not be dominating the make up of a Test side which does not include a single batsman averaging 40 or more. No other country in world cricket would be so foolhardy as to throw so many youngsters into the lions den of series against Australia and England and expect them to hold their own. I fear that the Board in half-admitting to their mistake by introducing Yousuf with Pakistan 2 down with 2 to play will not help rescue this series. As for the integrity and foresight of this Board, that has long been beyond rescue.

  • JustAGame on August 6, 2010, 21:20 GMT

    Many think that sacking kamran was a good move but not me. Rotating players too much never helps a team. What these new guys need is confidence, if someone out there can tell them that no matter what you guys gonna play for at-least 10 tests and if you play good you can play more would benefit pak cricket more in long run.