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'Ignorance is no excuse' - Broad

Andrew Miller at Cardiff

September 6, 2010

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Stuart Broad believes that the same professionalism that helped England to victory in the World Twenty20 in the Caribbean back in May has enabled them to keep their focus amid a torrid week for world cricket, but says that international cricketers have only themselves to blame if they allow themselves to be drawn into corrupt practices.

With the eyes of the world focussed on Sophia Gardens for all the wrong reasons, following a week of newspaper allegations surrounding the Pakistan team and the recent Lord's Test, England overcame a "slight hiccup", in the words of their captain Paul Collingwood, to chase down a modest target of 127 with 17 balls to spare in the first Twenty20 in Cardiff. It was the team's first outing in the format since overcoming Australia on a memorable afternoon in Barbados four months ago, and while the circumstances of this contest were far from ideal, the end result was pleasing nonetheless.

"We've been very focused on what we have to do on the pitch," said Broad. "You can get distracted by everything going on. But at the end of the day, that doesn't help you bowl the ball and hit it out of the park. Speaking personally, I've kept myself pretty well away from it. I've tried not to read too much or get myself too involved in it, because I want to focus on these two Twenty20 games here.

"After the Twenty20 World Cup, last night was a good statement that we want to take this team forward," he added. "It would be easy for us to sit back and say 'we've won a Twenty20 World Cup, and that's brilliant'. But last night saw a determination, everyone hurling themselves around in the field, to win and carry this streak on. We showed a lot of character to come back from five down (for 62), with the game looking a little bit iffy."

Broad, whose career-best 169 in last week's fourth Test was quickly overshadowed by the spot-fixing furore that erupted at the close of that third day's play, insisted - with good personal justification - that he had no sympathy for the situation in which the Pakistan squad now found itself.

"I'm sure for the Pakistan team, there's everyone following them around and there's a lot of hype around them at the minute, and that would be difficult to deal with. But at the end of the day, that's not our problem," said Broad. "There are always distractions in international cricket because that's part of being an international sportsman. There are probably more than most this week, to be honest, but that's why as players you've got to be able to shut things out and focus on what you've got to do."

Nor did he believe that any of the team had any excuse for not being aware of the threats posed by illegal bookmakers - not even the teenager Mohammad Amir - seeing as Broad himself had had the dangers drummed into him from the age of 19, when he first became part of the England set-up.

"I don't know what other boards do, I can only speak as an England player," he said. "But the ECB are very regimented in the advice they give us, because that's the responsibility that they have to take to make sure every player is educated. I don't think any player could ever have an excuse - 'I didn't know', or 'We weren't educated'.

"We get hand-outs, handbooks. With the amount of books I've got from the ICC at home, full of information, there's certainly no excuse as players. As soon as you come into the England team, the ICC get hold of you; you're put through this video, which is very watchable, very clear - it takes you back to when you were five or six, that's how clear it is. It outlines everything you're not allowed to do, everything you are allowed to do."

Broad conceded that the newspaper revelations had left the teams somewhat distanced from one another off-the-field, but he added that there had not been a lot of interaction beforehand, because the nature of modern-day sport doesn't allow much down-time for socialising. "I think that's gone out of the game a little bit, because obviously you don't want to give away little secrets about what you are planning," he said. "It's only after a series that you tend to have a drink with them and chat."

Nevertheless, Broad did regret not having had the chance for a proper catch-up with his former Leicestershire colleague, Mohammad Asif, whose bowling had been one of Pakistan's few high spots on their tour of Australia at the beginning of the year. Given everything that has now transpired, the chance to pick his brains on Australian conditions has surely been and gone.

"It's a difficult position and hard to comment on," he said. "He's a lovely fellow, I got on really well with him and he's obviously a world-class bowler. He is very open and willing to help and was a good overseas player for the six weeks he was at Leicestershire. But obviously these allegations have come from the News of the World and it will be interesting to see how it curtails and when it curtails.

"He is a seriously talented bowler," added Broad. "I only played about three games with him, I think. But he talks very much about getting close to the stumps and bowling wicket-to-wicket, and he was fantastic to learn from. Throughout this series I was saying to him 'at the end of this series I would like to have a chat with you about Australia' because he got a six-for (6 for 41) in Sydney and how he bowled over there. But with him being left out of the squad now, it's probably not going to happen."

For the time being, England and Pakistan have six more contests to get through before the end of the tour, starting with Tuesday's second Twenty20, and while the spot-fixing storm shows no sign of abating, Broad predicted that both sides would seek to immerse themselves in the remaining matches.

"We've just got to go out there and try to win," he said. "In international sport you get distractions all the time, but at the end of the day that shouldn't affect how you deliver a ball or how you hit a ball. That's one of the nice things about being a sportsman is that once you cross that white line, it is a freedom, you are away from everything in life really. You are playing cricket and that's an escape from everything. That's as clear as you get really."

Andrew Miller is UK editor of Cricinfo.

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Posted by Pathiyal on (September 8, 2010, 7:00 GMT)

Opinions from the 'great saint' Staurt Broad of all the people. Its hilarious!!! He should be out long back due to his indecent bahavior on the field. And we all know how he is in the team and his 169 against a 'fake' opposition. And i wondered who is approaching Stuart Broad for opinions. If anyone from the opposition team, Paul Collingwood would have been by far a better choice. He knows his profession better than anyone else in the side. May be Paul will just brush aside saying he is not supposed to give any opinions on that. But not Stuart Broad, please.....Now, dear Cricinfo Moderators, please dont ignore this comment at least :)

Posted by TheGuruji on (September 7, 2010, 20:14 GMT)

@YorkshirePudding - Do the ICC manuals say that you can throw the ball at a batsman intentionally? If he went through those manuals / videos, I am sure he would have known that. Having known that, he still did it. That makes him unqualified to lecture about not doing things, prohibited in the ICC manuals. Again, I mentioned that the majority would not have a problem if those comments had come from Strauss or Collingwood. No need to drag in SRT here. Let's be balanced.

Posted by Guruprasad.S on (September 7, 2010, 19:59 GMT)

A lot of comments seem to digress from the contents of the article, and instead, focus on Broad-bashing, which appears to be the favourite time-pass of this season. Stuart Broad being the son of a match referee, he getting hit for 6 s's by Yuvraj, his hurling the ball at Haider and his petulance, are all irrelevant to this article. The point is, Broad's prior record does not make him ineligible to express his thoughts on this issue. What he says is indeed true. It is good to know that he is aware of his role and responsibility as a player. It is just that these statements do not carry much credibility coming from him, because of the perception he has created for himself by virtue (or is it vice) of his on-filed behaviour.

I hope the Pakistani players suspected of match/spot fixing are treated with a mix of sternness and consideration. Let the actions serve as an example for all the current and future cricketers, that cricket and cricket must be clean and seen to be clean.

Posted by bigwonder on (September 7, 2010, 19:42 GMT)

@YorkshirePudding, I am sure the pudding is great in your mum's basement in Yorkshire, but you are arguing against facts - which (let me tell you) is wrong for an ENGLISHMEN (get it?). I am all for punishing the match fixers (be it a bookie or an international cricketer) but your arguments shows your ignorance and a blind eye towards what little brat has been up to. I am sure (as others have suggested) that ICC literature probably has a special page for little spoiled brat. He must have a special ICC hand-outs and/or handbooks that says "If your father is an ICC match referee, then you can throw balls at the batsmen, appeal without looking at umpires, excessive appeal, etc.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 19:34 GMT)

how can anyone equate indiscipline with match fixing? Stuart Broad is not the best behaved cricketer in the world but he is completely justified in saying that being 19 is no excuse for not knowing Match Fixing laws. and for those bringing up the 36 run over. That happened in 2007 and Broad is still in cricket now, having sealed an Ashes series for England in between. So lets just move on

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (September 7, 2010, 17:05 GMT)

@TheGuruji, actually Stuart Broad is able to speak on these matters as hes an international cricketer, and as such is privvy to the literature that the ICC sends out, unlike you who are a sad individual who probably still lives in his mums basement. The fact is that Broad did nothing more that comment that it 'Ignorance' of the rules is not a justification for any match fixing. As far as im aware broad has only ever thrown a cricket ball at someone once, and he was reprimanded by the match referee. If half the posters actually read the article rather than the headline they might actually understand what Broad was saying, and if the article was published under the name Sachin R. Tendulkar, they would be saying how correct he was.

Posted by zkaleem on (September 7, 2010, 16:55 GMT)

Ignorance is no excuse! But ignorance of the laws and spirit of the game is an excuse. Hurling a ball at a static batsman to fracture his finger or hurling abuse is officially encouraged by ICC rules! Those who live in glass houses should not through stones. Even a professional like Gavaksar, an accepted great of the game holds the view that Broad gets away with a lot because of his dad's position. In my view it represents a conflict of interest. But ICC sleep's over potentially explosive situations until they blow up in their face. Darrel Hair, match fixing are examples. I feel the Broad father and son link is an accident waiting to happen unless ICC see sense. In a way it is unfair for Chris too because he might ultimately be the victim of a development in which he may not necessarilly be the villian. So it is best for him to keep his trap shut and let his game do the talking.

Posted by Lahori_Munde on (September 7, 2010, 16:54 GMT)

Yes Broad hurled a ball at Pakistani player but he was fined for that. Yes he shockingly escaped untouched few times. Yes Staurt Broad is no saint but he has a point though. Those Pakistani fans who're still in denial and coming down heavily on Broadl, c'mon now. Few of the Pakistani players are ruining this game for the entire world and they must be punished. Imrankhan said it very well that the roots of such crimes are in the Pakistani society. Corruption, lies, propaganda, lack of proper education and always denial to accept the truth build their Player's Psyche. And as Khan said such Micro issue in every front of the life in Pakistan turns in to Macro issues like match fixing at the global level. The PCB is at fault here more then players. I would say the PCB should be punished heavily as well..

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 16:33 GMT)

Ha ha ha. Mr. Stuart Broad was probably "ignorant" about the spirit of the game, and that players are not allowed to assault other players on or off the field.

Posted by kushur on (September 7, 2010, 16:32 GMT)

Too many posters mentioned him beng it for six sixes and that is one of the most funny thing. Just becuase he was hit for six sixes, he has lost right to speak his mind,, ROFL.. (though I personally don"t like Broad at all and he shld have been the one of the last persons to make this comment looking at his track record). But still what those sixes got to do with all this matter. Funny indeed.

Posted by popcorn on (September 7, 2010, 15:39 GMT)

Ever heard of stuart Broad getting fined for bad behaviour? How will the umpires find him guilty? His father will have nothing of his dear boy. Stuart Broad is in the same league as Harbhajan Singh and Sreesanth for bad behaviour.

Posted by Something_Witty on (September 7, 2010, 15:31 GMT)

There is probably so much hatred towards Broad here because Broad is one of the most overhyped and unlikeable players in the world. I blame the English media for the ridiculous hype, and his parents (mainly his dad, from the examples he set when he played for England, demolishing his stumps and whatnot) for his brattish behaviour. I'll use Shane Watson as an example, many people hate on Watson because they say he's arrogant/rude etc. on the field. Yet, how many times per game does he hurl abuse at the umpires, or not bother appealing for LBW's, or throw cricket balls at people because he can't take wickets? Not many. He occasionally crosses the line (like with the Gayle incident), but when he does, he gets pulled up for it. Broad crosses the line many times every single game, yet for some reason nothing is ever said about it. That is why there are so many derogatory comments about Broad...

Posted by TheGuruji on (September 7, 2010, 15:26 GMT)

To all wondering why Master Broad is being attacked on other things unrelated to what he said: To comment on something, you must be qualified. Broad's previous indiscretions make him unqualified to comment on this issue. I am sure not many people would have had a problem if the same comments had come from a Strauss or a Collingwood, who are far less controversial. There in lies the crux of the matter.

Posted by bigwonder on (September 7, 2010, 15:07 GMT)

"SettingSun", you said it. There is definitely no proof except the fact that he is the son of an ICC "employee" and that there are numerous articles on Cricinfo (along with photos and evidence) of little brats mis-behaves on the field, several video clips that show him throwing a ball at the batsman, several senior cricket players criticizing him for this, ...... on and on. I could go on, but it will all fall against deaf ears or blinded fans and father. Oh well, at least I tried.

Posted by SettingSun on (September 7, 2010, 14:26 GMT)

Exactly what evidence do all these posters have that Chris Broad is helping his son get away with disciplinary matters? None. Exactly what does this have to do with spot fixing? Nothing. How many of the comments under this article actually anything to do with the subject at all? Not many. Still, Yuvraj hit him for six sixes in an over once, eh? Therefore Broad should shut up!!!11

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 14:15 GMT)

if england loses today i am going to be happiest man on this planet.

Posted by K.A.K on (September 7, 2010, 14:03 GMT)

Six sixes in an over. That must be a big deal!

Posted by Palinano on (September 7, 2010, 13:23 GMT)

How nice to read such sense being spoken by Stuart Broad. He loves his sport and like his team mates, fixing cricket matches is probably the most alien of concepts to him. Broad is fast becoming one of the most valuable cricketers in the world and currently would get into any team. Looking forward to Brisbane.

Posted by Morfi on (September 7, 2010, 12:32 GMT)

Even if the comments had come from Strauss or say, Collingwood they would have made sense. But they did not, because these guys have the moral integrity to keep shut and make "sensible" comments, if they do. They have relatively cleaner pasts than Broad. But what do they say about trees that bear fruit....they bow lower...but those without any fruit - try and pretend to be "upright" like Mr. Broad here. He shd probably go watch the videos again and look in the mirror before and after....

Posted by Morfi on (September 7, 2010, 12:28 GMT)

@ SettingSun - "We get hand-outs, handbooks. With the amount of books I've got from the ICC at home, full of information, there's certainly no excuse as players. As soon as you come into the England team, the ICC get hold of you; you're put through this video, which is very watchable, very clear - it takes you back to when you were five or six, that's how clear it is. It outlines everything you're not allowed to do, everything you are allowed to do."

--- and you think it is only about spot-fixing???? I guess these videos talk about other do's and dont's too. He might well be within his rights to comment, but he should look in the mirror before making any claims about being so "clean" himself vis-a-vis ICC codes of Conduct and regulations. He's been a naughty boy and has gotten away with it several times. Had an Aisan player hurled the ball earlier in the season with Broad's record of antics, he would certainly have been banned for a game - not docked half match fee!!!!

Posted by Bogie55 on (September 7, 2010, 12:08 GMT)

This comments section is very strange. Seldom can so many commentators have failed to comprehend, or perhaps even read, what it was Broad said (when asked for comment, by the way). This was very uncontroversial.

However, dealing with some arguments against what some commentators IMAGINED Broad said, I am amazed too by the failure of many to be able to distinguish between actions that toe the line of what is acceptable in the context of sporting competition and undermining the very foundations of sporting competition. When the former happens, a match referree can adjudicate. When the latter happens, there is no point in even playing the game in the first place.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 11:55 GMT)

I dnt knw y,Paki Fans are all going over the top,they reacted the same when Rahul Dravid expressed his views.Stuart has indiscpline cases against him,but nt match fixing,watever he did was in spur of the moment and to win.Pakistan crickters are being accused of thrwing matches,big diff,so he has the rite to say.If u dnt like den dnt read,and stop involving aussies and all.This defensive tactic will nt wrk all the time.

Posted by dscoll on (September 7, 2010, 11:48 GMT)

The pakistani fans who refuse to critise their team , even though they have been caught CHEATING are doing their team no favours. As long as they are left unpunished they will continue cheating. CHEATS SHOULD BE BANNED, regardless of which country they come from. To suggest Broad is protected by his father is pathetic.

Posted by sweetspot on (September 7, 2010, 10:43 GMT)

Okay, so someone forgot to DRUM into Broad that he should not let 6 sixers fly off his bowling in one over?

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 10:32 GMT)

My concerns are before we start talking about life bans, lets see if the Pakistan players are guilty. We cannot have this worrying trend of trial and sentenced by the press/media. In Britain you are innocent until proved guilty, well used to be. I wonder if the three now could ever have a fair trial, all members of any jury have been compromised by the News of the World, who are currently under the spotlight, again, for illegal acts. We need evidence, is there any?

Posted by M_H_K on (September 7, 2010, 10:30 GMT)

ECB fined KP for making some remarks on twitter. What about Broad remarks. Will ECB take notice of it ?

Posted by Something_Witty on (September 7, 2010, 10:13 GMT)

Maybe Daddy's boy Broad shouldn't be so quick to pass judgement given his ball-tampering past (which he unfortunately got away with). He might also want to concentrate on getting his bowling average below 35.... He's just stating the obvious, but there is no need, as it's been said many times already.

Posted by acnc on (September 7, 2010, 9:56 GMT)

As an Indian, I agree with many of the pakistani fans - Broad is hardly the poster boy for clean cricket. If it hadn't been for his 'Dear Daddy' taking care of him behind the scenes, he would have had a lot more problems in his cricket career.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 9:13 GMT)

If it is any article against Pakistan team or players "Cricinfo" really very happy to publish in headlines even though there is a rubbish statement, this is one of the article they published from the Son of protected match refree Mr. Broad, he has to think himself before he write something as an article what kind of quality he has, because he has done so many mistakes in the past and have forgiven because he is a English batsman and the Son of Match Referee, he never get any ban only they managed his mistake with money, come on England this is shame of cricket if a country is richest and their player do any mistake means they never get punished, but, if the country is poor and the player done a mistake (even not yet proved also), they should get ban for the life time, this is ridiculous and shame on ICC who are supporting only the richest countries.

Posted by Aasim_Waheed on (September 7, 2010, 8:47 GMT)

What ever has happened is very bad. Lets just try and fix this match fixing problem once for all. Asian countries need to support Pakistan especially India can play a big role. India please do this favour for the sake of Cricket. Thanks ...

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (September 7, 2010, 8:30 GMT)

@Kingkarthik, never a truer word spoken on this thread.....So broad makes a reasonable comment, and states that since he became a fringe england player hes had the rules and regulations about approaches made by 'agents' and other shady people drummed into him by the ECB, maybe it is something that the PCB need to do with thier players, so that the first action is to report such approaches to the ICC and team management, no matter who it is that does the approach.

Posted by Reggaecricket on (September 7, 2010, 8:29 GMT)

I am NO FAN of Broad. In fact, I think he deserves to be punished for his on filed antics. HOWEVER, how come he is flamed for merely saying that there is no place for corruption in Cricket? There is a big difference in being unsporting or arrogant like Broad and being corrupt. We fans are passionate about our Cricket and we watch the game with keen interest. Who feels good about being cheated by a member/s of our favorite team? I am of Sri Lankan origin and I'm presently reading about two SL players being under the ICC watch list. They are two of the best players but we want them BANNED for LIFE if they are found guilty. I wish the Pakistani fans will also want their team rid of cheats. Broad has expressed an opinion that should eb shared by all sports lovers.

Posted by Ennigmaa on (September 7, 2010, 8:21 GMT)

Andrew Miller, I feel sorry for you. You could mow my lawns if u don't have anything better to do.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 7:26 GMT)

i love how all the sub-continent posters are so defensive about the constant stream of match-fixing scandals originating from their part if the world. these same posters constantly bombard every other cricinfo topic venomously criticizing the aussies for being "too fiercely competitive". maybe if your cricketers had the same determination instead of the false bravado constantly on show but these little, fragile runts like sreesanth and harbahajan. you might enjoy a smidgen of the amount of success the aussies enjoy in the sport and not get constantly embarrassed on the world stage by them. so, in summary, you shouldn't slam the aussies for trivial issues, while it's people from your region, who are displaying the most most heinous behaviour. :)

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 5:25 GMT)

Ok, now this is really funny, corruption should be uprooted and every player found guilty should be banned for life. PERIOD. But Broad is the last man to talk about how cricket should be played. He is the spoilt brat in the team who have little followers. Did anyone say ball tampering in South Africa. ahem ahem. Just grab a ball and of you go for training Stuey, that would make you a better cricketer rather than want cheap publicity.

Posted by landl47 on (September 7, 2010, 5:21 GMT)

I see the Pakistan fans are out in force trying to make excuses for their players by blaming Broad. If you take the trouble to read the article, Broad made no comments at all about any of the Pakistani players except to say that Mohammad Asif is 'a lovely fellow'. He simply pointed out that the English players (and presumably the Pakistan players as well) get lots of material from the ICC telling them what to do in the event of their being approached by undesirable individuals. Otherwise Broad talks about how he and the other English players have kept out of it, as indeed they should. Pakistan fans should remember that Broad's father wasn't involved in his punishment, which was decided on by a SRI LANKAN match referee. Stop whining about it like a bunch of little kids.

Posted by Ammar_pak on (September 7, 2010, 5:14 GMT)

why is he commenting on all this? and whatever he said was non-sense . how can a person isolate himself and concentrate on the game when more than half of your team have match fixing charges on them and all the media has eyes on them? rubbish!

Posted by jtstriker9 on (September 7, 2010, 5:09 GMT)

Wow, what a response!! Obviously people don't like Broad for his impetulance!! I think everyone makes mistakes when they are young, so for him to say anything about Amir's behaviour is a bit stupid. But his comments for Asif were very respectful and he should be commended for that. Not many people are speaking out for any Pakistani platers at the moment, so a little praise where its due guys...

Everyone will feel for Amir if he is found to be guilty for the spot-fixing, I'm not sure Asif or Butt will get the same sympathy as they should have known better. That's if they are found guilty too....

Just remember it was the News of the World that made these claims. They write about more rubbish then any newspaper in the world, so lets not jump to any conclusions just yet!!

Posted by Blushi on (September 7, 2010, 3:53 GMT)


Posted by TheGuruji on (September 7, 2010, 3:38 GMT)

Classic case of the pot calling the kettle black! But for his father, Master Broad would have been banned thrice already. Karma is definitely going to catch up with him, and when it does, he will get no sympathy whatsoever.

Posted by kickaaasss on (September 7, 2010, 2:52 GMT)

Man i just watched Yuvi kicking ...s of Broad by hiting 6 sixes look at his face on that time i can not stop my laugh and not long time ago when he threw the ball at Zulqarnain,Good bowler means like Wasim and Mc Gra when you get aggressive get aggressive on your performance and on ball in your hand otherwise wait for some more entertainment.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 2:46 GMT)

A nice way to say STFU: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l4Hyv0Utrs

Posted by sabirshah on (September 7, 2010, 1:54 GMT)

Hahaha,,,Yeah he should remember U/V's 666666 in T20 WOrldCup though. I'm sad by the approach English players use to FACE a team. If they can't face the BALLS of real fast bowlers like Asif and Amir,,,put them under scandals and win!T20 and ODIs Pakistan would have been a far better team with Asif and Amir and that's what feared them the most so it was teh best way to GET RID of those two players. Shame on EDB playing cheaply here. I wish Pakistan wins with a great margin today. And shut English mouths a bit U P...I'm sure Amir and Asif will be back in action. Its not possible at the moment because ScotlandYard(British police) is favoring their Team and not speeding up the things. They'd do it after the ODI series is over. HEADLINES ON SEPT,17. PAKISTANI PLAYERS ALLOWED TO LEAVE ENGLAND AS NO CHARGES WERE MADE AGAINST THEM BUT THEY MIGHT BE CALLED BACK FOR FURTHER QUESTIONS. CASE DISMISSED , england wins the series with a relatively weeker attack of pakistan. everyone happy! shame

Posted by kingkarthik on (September 7, 2010, 1:32 GMT)

Typical response to the article by the average Pakistani fan. It does not matter if Stuart Broad has the moral high ground or not. What he is stating is undeniably the truth. The fact of the matter is that, Pakistani players have been exposed to be cheats. They have undertaken to foresake everything that is wonderful about the game for their own personal greed and pervertedness. It is high time for the average Pakistani fan to wake up and smell the mess created by their players. No amount of denials is going to make this go away. It seems at least Afridi has acknowledged the players were rotten and has offered his apology. Please try to purge your cricket system and try to learn from ECB/Australia cricket/New Zealand Cricket on how to run Boards, set guidelines for players and punishing offences. The average Pakistani fan concensus is either denial or everyone has done it, so why not us. 2 pretty flimsy arguement at best. Thank the Pakistani players/fans for ruining cricket.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 1:30 GMT)

Well Mr. Broad should remember the hipe he's got is only because of the recent series and no dought hes performing well in England let me see if he can deliver out side england, let the plz shutup until full report comes.

Posted by   on (September 7, 2010, 0:58 GMT)

ShahidMahmood Even with these players pakistan lost....do you want these cheats back in world cricket? How much ever they are talented players should be banned and make a lesson for future cricketers not to take the route. Hanse Cronje, Azhar, Prabhakar and Jadeja were good cricketers but they never played international cricket again..so should these guys...

Posted by ghost_of_len_hutton on (September 7, 2010, 0:45 GMT)

Perhaps a number of you could see this in perspective. Young Mr Broad may be petulant on the field, but one would have thought there is a clear distinction between allegations of ill discipline and allegations of taking bribes.

Posted by Texasacharya on (September 7, 2010, 0:27 GMT)

Good point...Appreciate this boy for the way he is learning the game. Who would have thought that he will receive from that onslaught from Yuvi? It's very important that these young kids talk about corruption in Cricket. It seems the Pakistan players are not been lectured on the corruption issues or may be it's that way they live.

Posted by __PK on (September 6, 2010, 23:53 GMT)

You'd think someone who's gotten off at the judiciary as many times as Broad would have learned the principle of "innocent until proven guilty".

Posted by Chris_P on (September 6, 2010, 23:34 GMT)

Whist totally agreeing with the comments Broad has done in the past, and there's NO excuse for them, the main point of the topic was the education process the ECB has given new players, the way it was pumped continually into them about this side of the game. Probably someone else from the English squad quoting this may have been more beneficial. I believe it's a little naive that there's no excuse for this. It appears with the number of programs the ECB does with new English players (and CA does with new Australian players, other countries I don't know) would suggest that ignorance is no excuse. However, if the PCB or other boards do not do similar programs, how can a player be measured as having the same intense program as English or Australian cricketers? Perhaps the ICC (There's a joke!) can make this compulsory for all boards to address this issue at the coalface rather than be reactive. It's up to the individual boards, the ACSU & ICC are next to useless for innovative programs.

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 22:37 GMT)

He must have looked into the mirror before giving such statements. What has happened from the Pakistani players is totally unacceptable, but he is not the one who could really be in a position to give statements on players not proven guilty, yet. Before anything he should have been punished, but ICC being totally inclined due to his father's influence.. WHAT A SHAME

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 22:35 GMT)

Broad it is better for you to be quiet you have been learning bad behaviour from Shuaib Akhtar, he is your ideal and you are similar to him

Posted by nomikshah on (September 6, 2010, 22:28 GMT)

It is wonderful to get holier than thou comments from conceited boards like ECB who play multimillion dollar tournaments sanctioned by righteous and unbiased ICC, and financed with resources which were declared illegal and subsequently frozen by the concerned governments.

So enough of this hypocrisy and hyperventilating

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 22:23 GMT)

maddy i love what you wrote ....I hope Mr Broad does what he speaks of

Posted by Snakehead007 on (September 6, 2010, 22:22 GMT)

Yuvraj Singh needs a talk with this kid...lol

Posted by Snakehead007 on (September 6, 2010, 22:18 GMT)

What ever pak did was wrong, But why is he commenting on this issue, Broad who was tampering with the ball along with anderson, Exactly what (Muttee) said, Why broad got away with that, isnt that called cheating?? Why these White players always get away with everything, and always got somethin against the asians..complainin about bowling actions, ( ajmal murali etc) ...remember the test match aus v india 2nd test jan 2008 , where india were cheated by bucknor and the aussiies, why wasnt there any investigation on that...could cleanly see india were cheated by the umpires...Just because they r white and r loaded with money does that mean they can get away with anything? Always making a big deal out of a small thing...spyin on other players with their hidden cameras so they can ruin their careers or humiliate them making up false storys....

Posted by imad_lala on (September 6, 2010, 22:06 GMT)

don;t make any comments on other player. you don;t remmember when yuvraj hit you for 666666 that is too much shame for you broad. if you remember those sixes then you will never make coments on other players.

Posted by samirhajarnis on (September 6, 2010, 22:03 GMT)

Pot calling the kettle black. I think it would help Mr. Broad no end if he kept his counsel to himself considering his own behaviour. He himself has a lot to answer for not the leastbeing his own ball tampering and how, in the eyes of ICC, could his misdemeanours fall into the "well, boys will be boys" category. SamirYeshwant Hajarnis, India.

Posted by PatrickJM on (September 6, 2010, 21:52 GMT)

For Broad to be commenting on other players' behaviour is at best foolish and at worst hypocritical. Someone should've told him to shut it and concentrate on sorting out his own numerous misdemeanours.

Posted by SettingSun on (September 6, 2010, 21:50 GMT)

Blah blah, hurled a ball at someone, blah blah, stood on the ball. What have these comments got to do with match and spot fixing exactly? Nothing. The topic is spot fixing and on that subject, Broad is pretty much spot on here. Saying that he has 'no right' to comment on Pakistan is ridiculous - everyone is allowed an opinion on ANYTHING.

Posted by ustad12 on (September 6, 2010, 21:47 GMT)

I generally agree with Stuart's comments. As a Pakistani, I believe that the behaviour of our cricketers reflects the general behaviour of the Pakistan society where corruption is an accepted norm. It is all very well to point fingers at others and nobody is suggesting that everyone else is perfect. As always, it is a matter of degree; and we as Pakistanis have failed. Having said this. there is no reason why we cannot improve ourselves and follow the principlines of honour, justice, unity, and discipline to make Pakistan a country we can be proud of. But we have to do this OURSELVES and Inshallah we will.

Posted by Phantom_XI on (September 6, 2010, 21:43 GMT)

I think it's a bit rich coming from Broad about morality, professionalism, right behaviour, and age, isn't it? Broad will get away with anything because he's got connections that other people do not have the liberty of having at their disposal. I'm completely against cheating in any sport, let alone cricket and PCB have neglected their responsibility of making sure that their players do not participate in any activities that may question the integrity of the sport, but Cricinfo letting this guy from lecturing other people of appropriate behaviour is simply laughable at best and patronising. Delibrately injuring other palyers by throwing bowls at them or needless schoolboy tantrums re inaccusable at any age also.

Posted by MrMMJ on (September 6, 2010, 21:37 GMT)

Rightly said.. Ignorance is no excuse. Words might be uttered by the wrong guys but they are golden words. Not only for cricketers but for all.......

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 21:21 GMT)

Whatever England plan it is happening since they dont want to loose this T20 and ODI series they have planned nicely with the help of their media and have removed the best bowlers from the squad, they want to maintain their winning records and have made the drama with the help of their so called "Match fixer" and reporter, they all doing with the help of money and the other Indian media supports, still the case under investigation, but, all the Indian media writes to ban those cricketers, if they proved guilty it is right but, still they are under investigation, day by day the media making new stories and try to spoil their images, and English media like to spend lot of money to prove that they are right, if they proved not guilty then the England and Indian media what they are going to do??????

Posted by shahidmahmood on (September 6, 2010, 21:12 GMT)

@Thomas Cherian You just want Pakistan to kick out the best players so that Eng win the T20s 2-0 and ODIs 5-0 and improve their ranking. Stop being a hypocrite and ban Broad for injuring Zulqarnan since he was jealous that a debutant will score a maiden 100 before he does.

Posted by indicricket on (September 6, 2010, 21:10 GMT)

Stuart Broad Esq. on a moral high horse! Isn't that funny? If you belong to certain part of the world and have your Dad as a match referee maybe you can get away with it.

Posted by Ellis on (September 6, 2010, 21:07 GMT)

Using Broad's logic, none of us should ever make a mistake because all the right and wrong things in life have been drummed into us from the day of our birth. There is a lot of sanctimonious, holier than thou prattle going on. I would not quite say that of Broad, but, he has been before the match referee, has paid the penalty and moved on. So it should be with the three Pakistani cricketers. Let the process unfold. Michael Atherton has brought a sense of balance into the matter, while Michael Vaughan is being hypocritical. I simply do not see him taking the same position if Amir was an England player.It troubles me that casual contacts by Asian players are viewed with a degree of suspicion, while those by Australian and English players are viewed as being above board. Balance is required. Otherwise, every incident in a major International cricket match will be viewed as a fix. Perhaps Andrew Miller can show some balance in his articles too!

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 21:04 GMT)

Yes whatever he has made a mistake he always forgiven because he is a England batsman specially son of Match refree, so, whatever he does it was acceptable and the board never ban him from playing cricket (only they manages with the money in the form of fine), if other team mate do anything it is unforgiven, this guy doenst have any rights to speak out opposite team mate, he has do correct his mistakes and play good cricket

Posted by mrhash11 on (September 6, 2010, 21:03 GMT)

Ignorance of corruptions is definitely no excuse but Broad should mind his bees wax on things he is ignorant about. Maybe he should spend a month in a village in pakistan and play with youngster who can hardly speak english let alone read books given by ICC. Not justifying Aamer's case here but its ironical coming from someone who has been brought up in some posh school in UK and whose dad works for ICC Seriously, I would like to see this daddy's boy throw a ball at Shoaib Akhtar when he is batting.

Posted by eoinsmith001 on (September 6, 2010, 20:47 GMT)

For goodness' sake, will the lot of you grow up and stop whining. Broad threw a ball at a fellow professional in a fit of pique and petulance. It was a stupid thing to do, I'm sure he knows it, I'm sure he knows he might do it again regardless, and I'm sure too that he'd have been punished more severely if he was anyone else from anywhere else. On the other hand, several members of the Pakistan team, including the captain and senior paceman are suspected to have colluded with underworld figures to rig events during a game for the benefit of illegal bookmakers, while also pocketing also their thirty pieces of silver. Which has led to suspicions of institutionalised, widespread corruption, from the president of the country, to the board, and back into the past, casting doubt over all of the remarkable games Pakistan have been involved in.

He's entitled to comment. As a professional, whose livelihood these allegations affect, he's within his rights.

Posted by cricfan93 on (September 6, 2010, 20:41 GMT)

I agree that it does sound a bit too wierd hearing all this from a guy famous for hurling a ball at a debutant and stepping on a ball. But i also agree with him about not being ignorant and that at the end of the day a sportsman is responsible for his own acts. Hope Broady doesn't mess up in the future.......he's a good player....too bad his aggressiveness gets in the way most of the times.

Posted by Jim1207 on (September 6, 2010, 20:39 GMT)

As soon as I saw the headline, I thought it was Chris Broad speaking but inside my heart I knew it should be Junior Broad. And, this has been told by a player who has got excused for umpteen times in the name of ignorance. I think MCC needs to catch Stu and pass on to him the book about the spirit of the game and needs to be tied down in a chair and made to watch how some of the gentlemen in cricket have acted in different situations, as ignorance would not be an excuse anymore for him.

Posted by NakibAhmed on (September 6, 2010, 20:38 GMT)

yeah,and the books the icc gave you mentioned nothing about hurling a ball intentionally at a batsman!...good god,Stuey,shut up!

Posted by sajjodaalman on (September 6, 2010, 20:32 GMT)

haha by cricinfo allowing this article here, it is making a mockery of cricket. this is the guy who has many attitude and discipline probs but has been let off many times because 1) he is english and 2) his father is icc referee. he should not be criticizing any other teams or players

and btw age is a factor. because as a 18 yr old aamir is looking to the senior players for advice and if they misguide him thats their fault and not so much his.

Posted by WI-NZ-SA-ENG on (September 6, 2010, 20:17 GMT)

I think it makes sense that broad is saying all of this and i think he has the right to since considering the fact the he made a brilliant 169 in that test match, but it got completely over looked and no mention. I don't even think broad was considered a all rounder, i can could see the frustration in broad since he should have been all on the headlines and news with his match saving 169 but instead it was filled with match fixing allegations involving the Pakistanis easily overlooking his 169 and some probably thinking that the Pakistanis let him get that much which I can see why Broad might be upset or why he would comment on the Pakistanis since they all his time of glory.

Posted by oman20101982 on (September 6, 2010, 20:11 GMT)

"Is there a rule in that book that asks you to "hurl the ball at the opposition and injure them Mr.Broad? " Or do you have any guidelines for getting out of a mess with help from your father ? "

HaHaHa .. Nice mate , really got laugh out of me .. Right though ..

Posted by Coastaltown on (September 6, 2010, 19:56 GMT)

Fair do's, he apologised for that at the time, that action was pig-ignorant and idiotic, but it in no way pertains to the matter at hand. I think this is a pretty even-handed and mature response to a difficult situation. He takes pains to point out how much he personally likes Asif, for example. Or is Broad not allowed an opinion because of some shoddy behaviour? because should that be the case I suspect the vast majority of international cricketers will have to keep their mouths shut in perpetuity.

Posted by shivasub on (September 6, 2010, 19:50 GMT)

Completely smacks of elitism and a sense of pseudo higher moral ground. What a load of rubbish.

Posted by aliver621 on (September 6, 2010, 19:49 GMT)

But I guess you can be ignorant about ball tampering Mr. Broad?

What an idiot.

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 19:39 GMT)

I agree with Broad...PCB failed the team and brought world cricket to disrepute...I think Pakistani Board should clean up its act before being allowed to play another game...as for the Ms however talented they should be banned for life with Butt so that future cricketers never attempt it again

Posted by Rastus on (September 6, 2010, 19:26 GMT)

I don't think this arrogant pratt has any room to comment on other people's actions. There should be no room in cricket for someone who picks up the ball and hurls it at the opposition because the spoiled baby can't get them out or shouts abuse at his own team members because they slightly fumble the ball in the outfield. I hope the baby Broad has a dip in form and is dumped out of the England team so I no longer have to put up with his arrogant antics on the TV.

Posted by Morfi on (September 6, 2010, 19:26 GMT)

So, Mr. Clean, I mean Mr. Broad, did those ICC handbooks and hand-outs and videos etc also tell you not to stamp on a ball and rub it during a match? Or wait, that is not cheating of course, you are not changing the ball's condition, are you??; and did they tell you not to celebrate a wicket without appealing?? and that you should not throw a ball at a batsman to hurt him or at least if you do , you should apologise??? but wait, aren't you THE MR. BROAD (Jr. that is??) -

Seriously, all this talk of the Pak High Comm (Wajd Shamsu or whatver his name) and others to come off their moral high horse, it should be directed at the likes of Mr. Broad..... but sadly, it won't - not untill Daddy Broad is in office.....

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 19:25 GMT)

Broad, Broad, Broad you must be bored... As If you are such an Innocent and harmless person, throwing balls unnecessarily and deliberately at poor Zul Haider. And what about sticking his arm out during his run up against South Africa a year or two ago? An excessive appealing? I think you should rather keep quiet and play the game than trying to be a twenty-three year old big shot.

Posted by shahidmahmood on (September 6, 2010, 19:11 GMT)

And keep on bragging about your century when you were 107/6. And well about making a comeback, Pakistan lose matches that they nearly won and won matches that they nearly loss. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD ! ! ! And don't misuse the fact that your ignorant dad gets you out of trouble.

Posted by   on (September 6, 2010, 19:10 GMT)

I think the books did not mention anything about hurling the ball on the batsman..!!!

Posted by Haqim on (September 6, 2010, 19:07 GMT)

There is no excuse for falling for a bookie.

Though, players should restrain from making comments about others in this way until the final result is visible.

More so when the player making comments is also guilty of deliberately hurting his opponent which caused him to miss the remaining tour and possibly one opportunity he got to establish himself in his team.

A word of apologize wouldn't have been a misfit after that incident.

Posted by K.A.K on (September 6, 2010, 19:06 GMT)

The boy is not a saint himself from a sportmanship perspective and is now sour as it may seem that his century was handed over to him in a platter by a bunch of jerks. And may be there is an opportunity for someone to translate these bookelts in punjabi for the Pakistani players to understand it.

Posted by the_blue_android on (September 6, 2010, 19:04 GMT)

This coming from a guy who stood on the ball. Genius.

Posted by GallusCC on (September 6, 2010, 19:03 GMT)

@maddy20 What has being a twit got to do with commenting on spot-fixing? Anybody has a right to comment, unless they themselves were implicated in something similar. I definitely am not asking anyone to like Broad, but he has EVERY right to comment. Especially, if asked, and clearly, as this article shows, someone did.

Posted by 9ST9 on (September 6, 2010, 19:03 GMT)

Any other player and I wouldn't have posted this comment. But these certainly are funny words from young mr.broad, being the unruly person that he is. I think he ought know that "Heat of the moment" is no excuse for unruly behavior as well. Sure fixing is wrong - but broad himself is not exactly a "sport" is he??

Posted by Muttee on (September 6, 2010, 18:53 GMT)

is it the same guy saying all this who was tempering the ball along with james anderson and was saved only becuase he belonged to English team and not Pakistan. Should be the last person to take the moral high ground

Posted by Umamahesh_Srigiriraju on (September 6, 2010, 18:45 GMT)

Oh my God! Look who is preaching! It's a real shame that the hand-outs and booklets aren't telling him not to throw the ball at the opposition batsmen or hurl abuses and whatnot.

Posted by mcaiyzs2 on (September 6, 2010, 18:12 GMT)

"We get hand-outs, handbooks. With the amount of books I've got from the ICC at home, full of information, there's certainly no excuse as players"

Its a shame none of these booklets contained anything about not chucking a cricket ball at another professional player

Posted by maddy20 on (September 6, 2010, 18:12 GMT)

Is there a rule in that book that asks you to "hurl the ball at the opposition and injure them Mr.Broad? " Or do you have any guidelines for getting out of a mess with help from your father ? I am not saying that Pakis are saints but Broad has no right to comment about them!

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