England v Pakistan, 2nd T20I, Cardiff September 7, 2010

Pakistan flounder against united England

England wrapped up an easy 2-0 victory in the Twenty20 series that left Pakistan desperate for a positive result in the one-dayers to lift them out of the mire
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Pakistan's captain, Shahid Afridi, offered no excuses after his team capped a dreadful week by collapsing to their lowest total in Twenty20 history. In front of a paltry crowd of 5,821, one of the lowest gates ever seen for an England international, Pakistan were brushed aside for 89, en route to a six-wicket defeat with a full six overs to spare.

"We were very bad, very inexperienced and immature from my side and from all the batsmen," said Afridi. "I think we played very bad cricket. I didn't want to sound negative before the game - I wanted to be positive as the captain - but we didn't play well and we're still making mistakes. At this stage all we want is one victory, because that would be really good for the team to keep the morale high."

With three of their key players suspended by the ICC- their senior opening batsman Salman Butt and both of their front-line seamers in Mohammad Asif and Mohammad Amir - Pakistan played as if they were on a hiding to nothing. "We are not enjoying ourselves in the field," said Afridi. "We need to forget everything [that's going on]. I know it's difficult but we should be professional cricketers and focus on the cricket."

England's victory was their seventh in a row in this format - a feat that equalled the record jointly held by South Africa and Pakistan's World Twenty20-winning team from 2009, of which Afridi was an integral part. The contrast between then and now is stark. "England are united because they are winning continually," he conceded. "Victory brings unity to the team."

Regardless of the bleak circumstances of the contest - with the autumnal conditions, a concurrent England football international, and the off-field issues all conspiring to undermine the attendance - Collingwood was delighted to be able to follow up his team's achievement in winning the World Twenty20 with a clean sweep in their next outing.

"In this form of the game it can be tough to win consecutively," he said. "It just takes one performance from the opposition to take it away from you, and to have that World Cup, you can have added pressure on you as well. But the way we've played over the last two games, the boys are enjoying that added pressure. They tried to come hard at us today - you could sense that was their approach - but we kept taking wickets and really applying the pressure."

On the subject of the scheduling, however, Collingwood was unequivocal. "We've been saying that for ten years," he said when asked if the game was suffering from overkill, adding that a wet Tuesday in September was every bit as likely to have scuppered the gate receipts as Pakistan's ongoing problems.

Afridi, who has rejoined the squad since quitting Test cricket back in July, believed that a change of format - and the addition of two new players in Asad Shafiq and near seven-foot-tall fast-bowling sensation, Mohammad Irfan - would help his team emerge from the doldrums and get that all-important victory.

"It's not easy, it's very, very hard, but I'm not letting my team down like this, not in the one-dayers," he said. "At the moment our morale is very down, day by day, so it will be a big challenge to compete in the one-dayers. But we have some time, and me, my coach and the team, we will sit together and talk."

However, there was not, he insisted, any talk about wanting to quit the tour and get back to the sanctity of Pakistan. "I think we are all enjoying England because it is like a second home," he said. "A lot of players have families here. You'd have to ask them personally, but I am happy to be here."

Andrew Miller is UK editor of Cricinfo.

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  • raoakram on September 9, 2010, 15:46 GMT

    hello.i have an idea to make one days more interesting.......Retain the first 15 overs remain as powerplay as it before.and make another 3 power plays divided each into 3 overs.and its necessary to take one into 20 to 30 and one from 30 to 40 and 1 from 40 to 50 overs.so it may make one days more interesting.or have the first 10 overs as power plays and make then 4 power plays.and make them necessary for each 10 overs.each pwer play is for 3 overs.and give each team two power play...hope u like it...thankss

  • nair_ottappalam on September 9, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    "We were very bad, very inexperienced and immature from my side and from all the batsmen," said Afridi. When did you learn to speak the truth, dear Shahid? You spoke about the batting performance. Was the beemer -bowled by you-in the true spirits of the game? Do you think that England is an unbeatable team? I do agree that England have done well over the past year or so after winning the Ashes and the World Cup T20. The way in which the sub continent teams (Pakistan and Bangladesh) performed this year, I think England could very well be a strong contender for World Cup 2011. With players like Trott, Morgan, Swann & Broad coming good for them. Atleast one thing is sure, the way the Aussies dominated World cricket for more than a decade, no team is going to rule in the near future.

  • VEGHA on September 9, 2010, 11:01 GMT

    I am an Indian.I will support Shahid Afridi.When whole team is shocked due to sudden developments and it is quite difficult to lift the morale of the team from shock.He is not magician and by continuosuly talking to them he has to bring unity in the team first.What composition of team he had for world cup and now what is given.Most of the team memebrs are new and it will take some time even for the best captain.Pakistan Cricket Board also must support the team even if they have some losses.Only patience is the key and PCB also should not change captain due to some failures.

  • ForTeamIndia on September 9, 2010, 9:07 GMT

    Happpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppy Birthday Mohsin :)

  • on September 9, 2010, 8:57 GMT

    I love the comment from Afridi. Tell the same "we were very bad" to all other leaders of this country - political, religious, military,ISI leaders and others organizations to be fair....Do not get into bad politics.

  • on September 9, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    Exactly as I predicted. There was no chance Pakistan are ever going to recover from this losing drought. They simply just don't have the batsmen! All those players; Fawad Alam, Hasan, Razzaq and even Boom Boom are all "hitters" and hitters never make runs consistently. Alam and Hasan, two young prodigies that need to be worked on hard enough to score runs. Razzaq and Afridi just can't learn from their mistakes.. Anyhow, look on the bright side... The Pakistani's bowled well!!!

  • Tucknoloji on September 9, 2010, 4:30 GMT

    Well who have spoken out load against Pakistan's Team. Please remember that we are phasing out from worst. And in this worst scenario, you cannot criticise Shahid Afridi, who played two big mature innings in Srilanka this year..... two big hundreds were there and if team supported over there, they would get win over Srilanka in opening Game where he scored 100.... well coming to ward current situation, you cannot criticise single player, they tried their best but confidence has been shattered due to conspiracy, which has been raised in England recently, we have to give time.... they will performe.... and for the Pakistani People, we should realize that there is no point of thinking alway in negative fashion.... i give u example of Greatest Ever Sachin...for me he is the greatest one ever but he was not a good captan as well, during captancy, his performance tend to go down and look now.....so it is harsh for the Afridi, he is Bowling allrounder, who give some utility in Batting as wel

  • mohsin9975 on September 8, 2010, 22:51 GMT

    Dats d way 2 go dr athar. I m an indian doctor. Am loving the us open action. Am a big federer fan.Hope he wins 2day.Abt cricket, i was big fan when i started watching since 1997-98. Bt recently since the advent of ipl, have shifted to tennis which is much cleaner and less controversial. Afridi is one of the worst captain to lead pakistan in last 20 years.He shd learn to lead by example. What say ppl in pakistan

  • DrAtharAbbas on September 8, 2010, 21:13 GMT

    An Ardent cricket lover for decades, I am positively retiring as a cricket fan. Yesterday I did not watch the T20 between england and pakistan & instead watched the tennis matches, Aisam-Bopanna-Pescke. I am a long term fan of Aisam ul haq since his junior years. There is no selection committee there, no camps, no Ijaz Butt, no governments deciding the fate of the tours. . . . . No anxieties other than the performance on the court.

    Aisam can play where he wants and he can win. No politics, no nothing, that is a much better managed sport globally. I want to watch the game, not the politics

    Beware ICC, PCB and cricketers, There are a lot of cricket fans out there thinking like me.................... I truely want to say "Bye Bye cricket"

  • mohsin9975 on September 8, 2010, 20:59 GMT

    When afridi was appointed pak captain, i had the feeling that he is matured as a player to lead his side.His comeback innings in abu dhabi raised hopes.But after carefully following his captaincy after t20 wc 09 till date, it seems he's learnt nothing since his debut abt cricket but slogging.Ppl in pak call it aggrsn bt its nothing bt slogging. Abt his captaincy,he is the biggest hypocrite ever .Captains lead by example,motivate players to play sensibly ,sometimes even command sanity.How can he make umar ukmal mend ways if he himself gets out by playing reckless strokes.Captains cant be outspoken,in ur face or criticise his players individually in the media. U need to be patient and diplomatic as well as quick thinker which afridi can never be(his field positioning is ridiculous and lethargic)

  • raoakram on September 9, 2010, 15:46 GMT

    hello.i have an idea to make one days more interesting.......Retain the first 15 overs remain as powerplay as it before.and make another 3 power plays divided each into 3 overs.and its necessary to take one into 20 to 30 and one from 30 to 40 and 1 from 40 to 50 overs.so it may make one days more interesting.or have the first 10 overs as power plays and make then 4 power plays.and make them necessary for each 10 overs.each pwer play is for 3 overs.and give each team two power play...hope u like it...thankss

  • nair_ottappalam on September 9, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    "We were very bad, very inexperienced and immature from my side and from all the batsmen," said Afridi. When did you learn to speak the truth, dear Shahid? You spoke about the batting performance. Was the beemer -bowled by you-in the true spirits of the game? Do you think that England is an unbeatable team? I do agree that England have done well over the past year or so after winning the Ashes and the World Cup T20. The way in which the sub continent teams (Pakistan and Bangladesh) performed this year, I think England could very well be a strong contender for World Cup 2011. With players like Trott, Morgan, Swann & Broad coming good for them. Atleast one thing is sure, the way the Aussies dominated World cricket for more than a decade, no team is going to rule in the near future.

  • VEGHA on September 9, 2010, 11:01 GMT

    I am an Indian.I will support Shahid Afridi.When whole team is shocked due to sudden developments and it is quite difficult to lift the morale of the team from shock.He is not magician and by continuosuly talking to them he has to bring unity in the team first.What composition of team he had for world cup and now what is given.Most of the team memebrs are new and it will take some time even for the best captain.Pakistan Cricket Board also must support the team even if they have some losses.Only patience is the key and PCB also should not change captain due to some failures.

  • ForTeamIndia on September 9, 2010, 9:07 GMT

    Happpppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppy Birthday Mohsin :)

  • on September 9, 2010, 8:57 GMT

    I love the comment from Afridi. Tell the same "we were very bad" to all other leaders of this country - political, religious, military,ISI leaders and others organizations to be fair....Do not get into bad politics.

  • on September 9, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    Exactly as I predicted. There was no chance Pakistan are ever going to recover from this losing drought. They simply just don't have the batsmen! All those players; Fawad Alam, Hasan, Razzaq and even Boom Boom are all "hitters" and hitters never make runs consistently. Alam and Hasan, two young prodigies that need to be worked on hard enough to score runs. Razzaq and Afridi just can't learn from their mistakes.. Anyhow, look on the bright side... The Pakistani's bowled well!!!

  • Tucknoloji on September 9, 2010, 4:30 GMT

    Well who have spoken out load against Pakistan's Team. Please remember that we are phasing out from worst. And in this worst scenario, you cannot criticise Shahid Afridi, who played two big mature innings in Srilanka this year..... two big hundreds were there and if team supported over there, they would get win over Srilanka in opening Game where he scored 100.... well coming to ward current situation, you cannot criticise single player, they tried their best but confidence has been shattered due to conspiracy, which has been raised in England recently, we have to give time.... they will performe.... and for the Pakistani People, we should realize that there is no point of thinking alway in negative fashion.... i give u example of Greatest Ever Sachin...for me he is the greatest one ever but he was not a good captan as well, during captancy, his performance tend to go down and look now.....so it is harsh for the Afridi, he is Bowling allrounder, who give some utility in Batting as wel

  • mohsin9975 on September 8, 2010, 22:51 GMT

    Dats d way 2 go dr athar. I m an indian doctor. Am loving the us open action. Am a big federer fan.Hope he wins 2day.Abt cricket, i was big fan when i started watching since 1997-98. Bt recently since the advent of ipl, have shifted to tennis which is much cleaner and less controversial. Afridi is one of the worst captain to lead pakistan in last 20 years.He shd learn to lead by example. What say ppl in pakistan

  • DrAtharAbbas on September 8, 2010, 21:13 GMT

    An Ardent cricket lover for decades, I am positively retiring as a cricket fan. Yesterday I did not watch the T20 between england and pakistan & instead watched the tennis matches, Aisam-Bopanna-Pescke. I am a long term fan of Aisam ul haq since his junior years. There is no selection committee there, no camps, no Ijaz Butt, no governments deciding the fate of the tours. . . . . No anxieties other than the performance on the court.

    Aisam can play where he wants and he can win. No politics, no nothing, that is a much better managed sport globally. I want to watch the game, not the politics

    Beware ICC, PCB and cricketers, There are a lot of cricket fans out there thinking like me.................... I truely want to say "Bye Bye cricket"

  • mohsin9975 on September 8, 2010, 20:59 GMT

    When afridi was appointed pak captain, i had the feeling that he is matured as a player to lead his side.His comeback innings in abu dhabi raised hopes.But after carefully following his captaincy after t20 wc 09 till date, it seems he's learnt nothing since his debut abt cricket but slogging.Ppl in pak call it aggrsn bt its nothing bt slogging. Abt his captaincy,he is the biggest hypocrite ever .Captains lead by example,motivate players to play sensibly ,sometimes even command sanity.How can he make umar ukmal mend ways if he himself gets out by playing reckless strokes.Captains cant be outspoken,in ur face or criticise his players individually in the media. U need to be patient and diplomatic as well as quick thinker which afridi can never be(his field positioning is ridiculous and lethargic)

  • mohsin9975 on September 8, 2010, 20:57 GMT

    When afridi was appointed pak captain, i had the feeling that he is matured as a player to lead his side.His comeback innings in abu dhabi raised hopes.But after carefully following his captaincy after t20 wc 09 till date, it seems he's learnt nothing since his debut abt cricket but slogging.Ppl in pak call it aggrsn bt its nothing bt slogging. Abt his captaincy,he is the biggest hypocrite ever .Captains lead by example,motivate players to play sensibly ,sometimes even command sanity.How can he make umar ukmal mend ways if he himself gets out by playing reckless strokes.Captains cant be outspoken,in ur face or criticise his players individually in the media. U need to be patient and diplomatic as well as quick thinker which afridi can never be(some of his field positioning is ridiculous and lethargic)

  • on September 8, 2010, 20:57 GMT

    I don't think Afridi is eligible for captain ship he loved to be captain but his tamprament very harmfull for pak cricket he failed in T20 world cup and agininst australia test , against Eng T20 and he is playing dirty politic with his seniors fellow oneday expert alrounder Malik and Younus. sorry to say he is not resposibel captain either cricketer. kickout him with his dirity mafia who is backing him unconditionly Bring Yusuf as captain and Malik as vicecaptain And give them chance for atleast 3 years in this condition No doubt Pak will lose 5-0 again England regd

  • sirvivfan on September 8, 2010, 19:03 GMT

    I am afraid even before the match fixing / spot fixing scandal broke this side was struggling. Given what has happened, why are we supprised with the performance. You can imagine put England team or any other through what Pakistan team has gone through and play in a foreign land. They would also struggle and run for cover! Pakistan has to realise that it has no friends in this world. The world polictics are such that everbody is trying to get them. So the players and officials need to be aware of this and really get there house in order. If this is not an incentive to the players what is? See how Danish was treated, and now we hear there is no charges against him!!His name was first to be released by the press and not his Essex team mate! Wake up Pakistan and Pakistanis, unite and fight for justice by putting its own house in order and then taken on the world!!I wish i was young again!!! We need strong leadership, Saladin Ayubi.

  • on September 8, 2010, 17:38 GMT

    I m sorry to say this but I lost interest in pakistan games. With so much controversy around, every cricket enthusiast will lose interest in these games. I had a huge feeling that in Mohammad Ameer we have a new Wasim Akram, unfortunately this bloke has lost his head so early in his career.

    I wish to see some fight from pakistan in the one days..

  • ballaybaaz on September 8, 2010, 17:35 GMT

    well a real bad patch for Pakistan but who should we blame when its us thats doing it all?..Once agagin i will ask PCB to get Imran Nazir in the team for the one days as we are already loosing anyways but we can prepare and get the team ready for the world cup...Imran Nazir has the potential and we definitely don't need to open the innings under pressure like we always do and he will be the right choice . I will request PCB to please give him a chance and let him do what he does the best....

  • CrickFans007 on September 8, 2010, 17:26 GMT

    I am a big fan of cricket and boom boom Afridi too many people like him does not mater where they belong to. THis time pakistan team is under dark clouds and their moral is so low nothing is working for them. But one thing I would like to say is that after addition of 7 ft tall irfan in ODI series would be very interesting to watch many people want to see his bowling and addition of both Asad and irafan pakistan team may get some charm. Cricket fans I wana say one thing here If Pak team win the series in this bad and tens situation then no one can stop them for the World Cup trophy. Last Ijjaz Butt its time to for you to go back and please dont come again in PCB for any position. Kabadi is the best sports for you Ijazz Butt.

  • adiqad on September 8, 2010, 16:58 GMT

    Apart from all the other problems, the Pak thinktank is not planning things properly. I think that you do need someone to anchor your innings, even in T20. Yousaf should have been told not to try to prove that he can play big shots but play carefully. There is just one short ball allowed per over, but they managed to get out on that one ball. Hopefully they can bounce back in ODIs. All they need is some slef belief and respect opponenet bowlers without getting bogged down (A very good example of not respecting a quality bowler is the way U akmal got out to a vastly improved swann. They also need to use Razzaq in batting in a better way (surprising the opponent by sending him as pinch hitterwould not hurt). Afridi should try to play the overs from Spinners in middle and someone needs to build a partnership. Everyone should be told what's expected off him.

  • on September 8, 2010, 15:46 GMT

    Justice Qayum clearly suggested that WAQAR YOUNUS / EJAZ AHMED & MUSHTAQ AHMED should be away from cricket or related activiities but here interesting response : PCB selected WAQAR YOUNUS / EJAZ AHMED their coach. ECB selected MUSHTAQ AHMED their bowling asst. coach. Notorious Muhammad Yousuf & Kamran Akmal still in squad & destroying cricket. They aren't interested in cricket but in other activities. Mullaism destroyed our cricket from the day when Inzimam involved in other than cricket activities in ground even it is highlighted in media but ........................Bad names are back in squad again. ICC failed to protect cricket from fixing. IPL story of fix is burning but there's no headache to cricket high ups. ICC should be run by HONEST CRICKET PLAYERS only.

  • Sveet on September 8, 2010, 14:54 GMT

    Do you really blame the Pakistanis for backing their boys. If they didn't then who would? the Indian cricket Board?

    The media onslaught esp from India was damning to say the least. The Pakistani administration would have dealt with it properly had some of the opinions in tabloids and news channels here in India not antagonized the Pakis against their own course of action. To ask for a life ban on the entire team by some sections of media and nothing less from ICC for the Pakistani team was ridiculous.

    I still hope the guilty players if so found should be dealt with harshly. and the entire PCB needs to dissolve.

  • BapiDas on September 8, 2010, 14:35 GMT

    That Pakistan's cricket is in such a pitiful state is without a doubt the result of inept and incompetent administration by PCB They have failed miserably in taking care of the game and the players/ officials. Lack of discipline, camaraderie and unity in the team is evident. I feel sorry for the players but sorrier or the followers/fans who still hope that the team will come out of the crisis! I hope and pray that they are not let down.

  • Saim93 on September 8, 2010, 14:12 GMT

    It is because of these dreadful performances that there was such a bad crowd, at this rate i expect the whole nation to lose its interest in the sport in the next 5-10 years!

  • satanswish on September 8, 2010, 14:03 GMT

    I see no difference in this Pakistan team & weak Bangladesh team. Both teams should compete with each other to fight for last spot in the table.

  • on September 8, 2010, 13:50 GMT

    pakistan is not such a bad team to lose 5-0 to england, pakistan will bounce back strongly after their recent loses... england must not be complacent..... pakistan is a better odi team than england.... pakistan can win the odi series if they concentrate on the game rather than focussing on match fixing issues.... hope pakistan does well in upcoming matches.....

  • QAS123 on September 8, 2010, 13:33 GMT

    If Pakistan play a T20 with test players like Yousuf, Shahzeb and Fawad Alam then how much run one can expect? Anyway Pakistan is under pressure and i appeal to Pakistanis, help the team player to get rid of this situation. I will be happy if Pakistan even won a single match and if they don't doesn't matter. Keep helping them and cheering them doesn't matter what ever performance (or say true performance) they show in the match. Afridi is good leader as we can see a lot of encouragment and also support to youngies from him. Keep cheering them and we will see them comming back strongly if not in england with SA and NZ. They are our people our heroes, if we turn our backs on them, then who will cheer them as we see whole world is turning their backs on them. After all they are also human being, if under pressure they will die with out fight. I am happy still they can apply pressure like they did in both T20 and also they can fight. Its a clear good sign that they can return.

  • on September 8, 2010, 12:22 GMT

    Those who are calling for Malik's return are ridiculous. Granted he's a great player of spin, but the fact that at the same time he's a pathetic player of pace bowling shouldn't be missed. About time we get rid of Malik and other useles players and stick to trying out youngsters, which means we'll obviously lose at the moment but getting emotional and missing the long term achievement is something too childish that shouldn't be done. Go with this team in the ODIs ; 1> Shahzaib Hasan 2> Kamran Akmal (I want some other keeper, especially Zulqarnain being tried but I know it sadly isn't gonna happen) 3> Yousuf 4> Umar Akmal 5> Fawad Alam 6> Afridi 7> Razzaq 8> Umar Gul 9> Shoaib Akhtar 10> Saeed Ajmal 11> Mohammad Irfan.

  • on September 8, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    eng have grate chance to improve his ODI ranking bcoz there is nothng left from pak team every one is showing is matureness no buddy can ready to do somethng for his team even thy pray that this tour well finish soon eng can beat pak 5-0

  • poderdubdubdub on September 8, 2010, 9:52 GMT

    Its a Sad and Sorry state of affairs right now as far as Pakistan Cricket is concerned. Nasir Hussain was right in saying "They are mentally gone", and thats exactly what has happened. To be realistic it would be unnatural if the team morale was not battered by the events of last week, come on its their mates who are in the worst possible mess you can imagine. So I am afraid unless and untill the team hears anything positive about the 'off the field' problems dont expect any miracles on the field. In the current state of mind Pakistan will lose the ODI series 5-0, and that will give their confidence another flogging, feel sorry for Afridi.

  • on September 8, 2010, 9:49 GMT

    Pakistanis have started to act like aussies...whenever they lose miserably they start looking for excuses and blaming others..as they found BCCI's conspiracy as ICC banned 3 pak players...and Sharad Powar is ICC Chairman

  • reality_check on September 8, 2010, 9:41 GMT

    Pakistan is out for the count. I like Afridi's honesty but I am afraid honesty alone won't win any matches. Looks like the whole team is like a deer caught in the headlights, they are perhaps just waiting for another NOTW report to see who else walks on the plank. I predict same kind of results in 5 ODI. Look for all kind of sorry records being made by Pak team. They should just abandon the tour and go home, fire Ijaz Butt and rest of the PCB admin, regroup, get some fresh untainted players and plan and prepare for the next asignment. However; it will be tough for Pak team to recover from the recent match fixing fiasco. It's tough for any team to recover from such allegations levelled against half the team. I predict Pak cricket to just continue to decline from here onwards. This looks like to be the last nail in PCB's coffin. Way to go ICC, don't look but Pakistan is following in the footsteps of Windies or perhaps have overtaken them to be the fastest team in decline.

  • on September 8, 2010, 9:13 GMT

    It seems England team done a "Ground fixing" with Pakistan team during the second T20, Star Cricket channel got the Video footage yesterday and they have lively telecasted them yesterday, it has happened in the 1st ball of second over they fixed with Umar gul to bowl "No" ball followed by a "Six" (normally Umar never bowl second over in T20) last 2 balls hit "Fours" all from the keeper's bat (it was arranged by famous ENWS news paper and they have given some 10000 pound for Umar, they have recorded those Video footage as well and given to ICC), another "Ground fixing" also happend during the 11th over it was the last ball of the 11th over and England batsman Ravi bopara given "Out" for nothing, it seems the on field umpire also involved on that fixing, on field police has done the inquiry and further investigation going on, we will get the result after England one day 5-0 celebration ceremony. see U there

  • Mantan on September 8, 2010, 9:10 GMT

    Can someone please take care of these INDIAN BOOKIES who are the main financier behind 90% of match or spot fixing in the whole cricketing world. They were the one behind Hansie Cronje and they are the one behind this Mazher Majeed. Unless you kill the finance you cant control this whole thing. I think its time that India takes this thing seriously. Every one knows that the home of bookies is Bombay so why not they take any action.

  • shaantanu on September 8, 2010, 8:57 GMT

    arsul there seems to have lost his marbles...hahahah.i dont blame him though.any pakistani supporter wud given the state their team is in...i m no english supporter but to blame them n tht too for what......sacrificing pakistan to retain the ashes.man i cant stop laughing

  • shaantanu on September 8, 2010, 8:53 GMT

    someones here saying pakistan is comparable to newzealand.....thts pretty unfair on NZ.newzealand may not be a strong test team however they are pretty solid in odis......

  • cricket_fan_1980 on September 8, 2010, 8:47 GMT

    @ Vichan, oh please, your comment is glorifying sleazy British tabloid journalism. Did you know the British government has open lawsuits against the NOTW, two of their journalist were jailed for the Royal's phone hacking incident. The Labour party has criticised their very basic modus operandi. You really think any sane court of law wouldn't assume if they cheat and lie to make a story sell, they wouldn't do it again? Yes some parts of their evidence are true and they've unravelled a tiny part of a massive global problem. Yes, the boys involved from the Pakistan side need to be dealt with. But seriously, don't need to go around making high and might "Oh we Brits have saved you uncivilised Pakistani's" type of comments. Do you know how many spot-fixing scandals exist in county cricket and how Danish Kaneria succesfully defended himself for being made a scapegoat as the only person involved? Do you know how rife and rampant match fixing is in the IPL?

  • Badreshian on September 8, 2010, 8:47 GMT

    I think we as a team and as nation needs some time to think of what going on with our cricket and design way forward strategy. Amir, Asif and Salman could be history and they should be as the embarrased our country. Now kamran, hafeez should be out till dont know what time,,,, may be for ever,,,, Umar akmal need serious mentoring other wise if persistent with the current attitude should be sitting with his brother akmal at home. Razzaq could be replaced with young legs of Hammad Azam. Yes interested to be watching M Irfan bowling in England and his response to international level at highest level. Asad shafique well I dont know much about him. Shoaib is no more a reliable asset as he is getting weight and age. I personally think that Our player must be educated to behave at the international level; alot of work is to be required on this. Parents and friends could also be extremely important in this regard. Lastly but most important is that to change the chairman PCB and his associates.

  • KeithArtherton on September 8, 2010, 8:46 GMT

    Make education compulsary for PAK cricketers.Things might improve 10-15 years down the lne

  • on September 8, 2010, 8:45 GMT

    I really hate the way Pakistan team played in Second T20, they have played like born to get defeat, as a captain Afridi should have taken responsibility and should have lead the team by scoring some runs, he just came and played and got out cheaply, this is not the way to lead the team, a captain should be an example for the other players, I don't understand why Pakistan team don't find a good keeper who can keep as well as bat well, is there only one choice in the name of "Kamran?" he got out the same way he did in first T20, the batsmen should learn from the bowler, while batting Umar gul did stay behind the crease and waited for the short ball to come to him and hit, but all other quality batsmen choose poor shot selection and got out, come on boys, give us some cheers,

  • karthikfromchennai on September 8, 2010, 8:40 GMT

    the most corrupted players are from pakistan...selling country for money

  • jackiethepen on September 8, 2010, 8:40 GMT

    Pride is very important. The problem is not to be proud of the wrong things. Part of the modern age is to be proud of strutting around and posturing - plenty of praise for that in the English media and on Cricinfo. There is a lot of bullying in the English press. I'm not keen on fans who burn effigies either when their team loses. Maybe we have to get back to some decent values. Winning isn't the be-all and end-all and neither is money. Playing a game fairly is something to be proud of and so is performing at your best. Heroes used to be ones that didn't boast about themselves but got on with the game. Pakistan have talent in abundance but their training is at fault when it comes to fielding and batting in all conditions. But more importantly the uncorrupted ones have got to be proud they said no and stand up for the right values. They are certainly not helped by fans in denial who seem to permit any excuse for letting the side down.

  • karthikfromchennai on September 8, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    The worst team of the decade - Pakistan

  • Aqib86 on September 8, 2010, 8:15 GMT

    we desperately need an attacking but sensible middle order batsman............and they have left out Shoaib Malik..............

  • on September 8, 2010, 8:12 GMT

    I believe we lack mental strength, batting technique,fielding technique professionalism and commitment. There are only two batsmen who can bat (Baba e Yousaf and Umar Akmal)...Shahzeb Hasan, Hafeez, Fawad alam etc have no idea how to play spin plus lack technique required at international level. As for fielding lets not even talk about it cuz it's pathetic. If you don't believe me just watch razaq in this 2nd T20 and Shoaib Akhtar in 1st one. We had only one player who was actually comfortable against spin thats soaib malik and we've sent him back thats ridiculous..I'm not a big fan of his but still he's the only one who can actually play spin.

  • mcheckley on September 8, 2010, 8:08 GMT

    The Pakistani X1 is clearly incapable of playing meaningful, competitive cricket in the light of the issues currently raging - and who could expect otherwise? The players not involved in the spot-fixing accusations are worried about their colleagues who are, and no doubt the entire squad is worried about the floods in their homeland, to say nothing of the ongoing violence and political strife. How can they be even expected to address their minds to playing good cricket against such a background. It's ludicrous for them to try; they should go home, and resume competitive play only when the legal / political matters have been properly addressed.

  • guru008 on September 8, 2010, 8:03 GMT

    first of all i think all Pakistan players should be told not to utter a single word to the media. It seems they dont have any PR skills , language is bad and they make silly comments which return to haunt them. What does he mean they are enjoying in England - that has been thier problem - they enjoy more and less serious on Criket and their country 's honour . Even Afridi after 20 years in public laughs and make commnets on fellow crickter ( Yasser) - any other country cricketer would have just said - No comments.

  • addimqm on September 8, 2010, 7:39 GMT

    Afridi is correct but our main problem is fielding & bating bowler done a very good job in both t20 specially sohaib akhtar who bowl 96 mils per our so that a good sign in oneday's

  • vichan on September 8, 2010, 7:34 GMT

    @Arsul Mohammad: So you are saying that (1) England planned this whole match fixing business, (2) as a deliberate plan to demoralise Pakistan, so that (3) they can win a few matches before the Ashes, even though (4) all the teams, including England, are also match fixing. Do you know how ridiculous that looks...?! I don't understand why you feel the need to make wild accusations with absolutely zero evidence against England, who have done NO wrong in any of this. In fact, this whole unfortunate mess in Pakistani cricket, which British newspapers and British law has uncovered, may be the best thing to happen to Pakistani cricket in the last 20 years. Hopefully this will destroy match fixing involving Pakistan altogether...then you will surely have to thank England, instead of making ridiculous allegations against them.

  • on September 8, 2010, 7:14 GMT

    IMO the Akmals should GO HOME!

  • on September 8, 2010, 7:02 GMT

    SURELY IS A BAD TIME FOR PAKISTAN TEAM.. ENGLAND NOW EMERGE A GOOD SIDE .. IN PAST ENGLAND I S NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF CRAPS NOW THIS LABEL SUITS TO PAKISTAN. PAKISTAN IS NOW IN CATEGORY OF NEWZEALAN AND WINDIES..

  • sharprider on September 8, 2010, 6:51 GMT

    Surprising result, no, not at all especially in light of the shoddy performances by our "heroes' (of yesteryears), but, nevertheless a very disappointing handling of the situation. Firstly, the toss was not taken advantage of by Afridi (by opting to bat instead of bowling first and chasing a target which is the best way to achieve a positive outcome), followed by improper batting order where we needed him (Afridi) to open the innings followed by attacking batsmen like Umar, Kamran and Razzaq to stabilise the middle order with their strokeplay. A definite plan was neither seen to have been even conceived or thought of, forget about executing it with conviction, which, of course is the key characteristic that's lacking in the Pakistan team. Come to think of it, they did not last even 19 overs. So, they will need all the luck and prayers for the upcoming ODI series, which must be used to lay the ground work for a resurgence so that the fans can look forward to the next year's World Cup.

  • Percy_Fender on September 8, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    Pakistan's bowling has never been a problem. In fact they are as good as the Australians or South Africans are. The problems are their batting and fielding. I batting too the current lot will do well anywhere in the sub continent. It is just that they have been seen in poor light in both Australia and now in England. It is a pity that many of their good bowlers have got involved in spot fixing and drug use in the recent past.But that should not stop them. They have Irfan. He should be brought in immediately. With Umar Gul Irfan Riaz and Abdul Razzack they should be able to do well. The batting and fielding are something which they cannot find quick answers to. They should go back home after this series and work out things. I am sure things will be OK soon enough.

  • on September 8, 2010, 6:24 GMT

    this is the very high time to support our team, they are low in confidence not ability, hope they will come back. Ifran porbably will ad some more flavor in our bowling but the problem is batting, hope yousaf will play a vital role,

    Come on team Pakistan!!!!!

  • Tansah on September 8, 2010, 5:46 GMT

    You're correct Afridi, Pakistan did really bad. No other way to desrcribe it I'm afraid but at least you admit it. Apparently, 6' 11" Irfan is coming along so hopefully he can, firstly, give England a taste of their own short bawling medicene... and possibly glare down at a puny Stuart Broad... that'd be funny. Butt, Asif, and Aamir were an imprtant part of our team and it is a shame that they were greedy and they dishonoured Pakistan cricket. Oh, drop Akmal and Hafeez for Irfan and... erm... the other new guy. After all, new players get better if they actually play. And Yousuf is an old man... a Baba... so t20 is not for him... it's for young bloods. He will do better in the ODIs... insh'allah!

  • on September 8, 2010, 5:25 GMT

    I wish Pakistan comeback in cricket; these are the horrible days in history of Pakistan cricket. All we need to support them in this crisis. Good luck Pakistan team!!!

  • Hoggy_1989 on September 8, 2010, 4:26 GMT

    Seems to me that Pakistan are so low on confidence, form, ability and hunger to win that they should just abandon this nightmare tour and go back home. They obviously have some really really big problems on and off the field they need to address (sacking the PCB 'chairman' should be the 1st one), and bumbling their way through 5 more ODIs are not going to do anything other than give their confidence another flogging. England may as well send out their Under 19s team, rest the main players before the Ashes. They'll still win this series 5-0.

  • landl47 on September 8, 2010, 3:23 GMT

    This is just a very weak Pakistan batting line-up and until some young players with talent come through they will continue to struggle. Never mind Asif and Amir, if they'd had Wasim and Waqar today they'd still have lost. I'm sure I speak for every cricket fan when I say that it would be great to see Pakistan get out of the mess they are in currently, on and off the fiekl, and get back to being the exciting team we have seen over the last 40 years.

  • satanswish on September 8, 2010, 3:01 GMT

    As I predicted yesterday, Pakistan's pathetic batting & fielding form continued. ODI series results will be no different. Way to Go, England!!

  • 9ST9 on September 8, 2010, 2:18 GMT

    You were not "Bad" Afridi - you guys were terrible. I agree England are an in form team - but for a side that has generally been good in T20 cricket Pakistan's performance was pathetic. Whatever our nationality, as fans of Cricket we always want to see all teams in good form and a great contest. So hope things get sorted out soon

  • Raman.UV on September 8, 2010, 1:07 GMT

    pakistan needs to think about its batting line up once again... bowl is still good but batsmen failing consistently in all format of the game... especially akmal brothers.. u can't be in team cos of past performances..both of them are getting out off a bad shot selection and at this level u can't do that consistently. i don't know Wat umar akmal is trying to do ? either its one dayer or a test or this format he is always trying to attack the bowler which he is not able to do... y can't he concentrate on his batting and shot selection rather getting out to some unwanted stupid shots and leaving his team on a losing position...

  • on September 8, 2010, 0:57 GMT

    Pakistan need to get serious about their cricket. They look very unprofessional with their batting and fielding displays. 89 runs in a T20 International. One really has to wonder if they are being paid to underperform......

  • khashar on September 8, 2010, 0:28 GMT

    Shahid Afridi never has any leading skills what so ever..he has always cracked under pressure he didn't do well as captain in T20 world cup this year. Only high performance came in to Semi Final where Afridi cracked again under pressure. Its not about whats going on around the team recently. Its all about leading the team. Pakistan won world cup last year with same sorta team but it was Younis Khan's leadership and superb captaincy which led Pakistan to World Cup. Specially Semi Final & Final of last year's T20 world cup were two major examples of Younis Khan's Captaincy skills. PCB gotta admit now that they need Younis Khan back for ODI & Tests otherwise Pakistan has no chance of doing well in up coming world cup in 2011. Further more Ijaz butt should resign now he has failed to manage PCB in every aspect..lost the hosting of world cup, lahore attack changed too many captains keeping players out because of personal grudge (example Younis Khan)

  • on September 7, 2010, 23:38 GMT

    Second home..No doubt..Most of your team mates made their most ill gotten money here sure they won't mind being in England. Just let the British law catch up with those guys, England for sure wont feel like home then.

  • on September 7, 2010, 23:31 GMT

    Pakistan needs a therapist. :/. Their moral is down and clearly the team is depressed. Professional help is the only way to bring back their mood up.

  • Taz786 on September 7, 2010, 23:29 GMT

    I think it would be best for everyone that Pakistan go home now. I can see the ODI's been totally one sided in favour of England. Who wants to watch a no contest ?

  • on September 7, 2010, 23:03 GMT

    every thing happend as england plane for it,match fixing is no doubt about been part of all team,s, icc know very well what,s going on,but england use pakitan to sacrifiesthem on there incoming trip to aussies,they did through pakistan crickit in hail,sooner or later they will be going shame on there self,beleave or not, every thing they did to get ashies.

  • on September 7, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    I think the team is shattered, it needs an over-haul, new blood now which is not tainted anymore. We plead to Great Imran Khan to be at the helm of the administration, it should not take much effort from him and things would be back on track again, he can always get help from the other great Miandad, who can be his right hand man! It would be a charitable cause, or so it seems with each passing day,

  • vichan on September 7, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    With the way England seem to be playing in this format of the game, I wouldn't bet against them breaking the record for most consecutive wins. For Pakistan, who are the joint record holders...what a difference a year makes, I guess.

  • Lahori_Munde on September 7, 2010, 22:34 GMT

    Very unfortunate time for Pakistan and Pakistan fans. Obvious that this crisis was in making for years. I can't belive that many Pakistani fans are still in denial mode along with the PCB management and blaming others for their comprehensive failure. Imrankhan said it very well that the roots of such crimes are in the Pakistani society. Corruption, lies, propaganda, lack of proper education and always denial to accept the truth build their Player's Psyche. And as Khan said such Micro issue in every front of the life in Pakistan turns in to Macro issues like match fixing at the global level. The PCB is at fault here more then players. I would say the PCB should be punished heavily as well. They're ruining this game for the entire world.

  • archilion on September 7, 2010, 22:25 GMT

    Its just the wrong phase for Pakistan cricket. Everyone knows they are an unpredictably dangerous team and doesn't deserve to be at this poor state. All they need to do is get their mind in right direction, pull up all their strengths together and see themselves as a 'team' by supporting each other. Personally, I never liked Afridi because of his harsh attitude and faulty cricketing techniques, but I really wish he take the Pakistan to a place where they deserve to be. Otherwise, we are just loosing a competitive side for nothing.

  • bugnot on September 7, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    Very difficult situation for the entire Pakistani team.

  • cricket_fan_1980 on September 7, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    Come on Boys, put up a fight. I know its been hard, there is confusion in the air regarding the ethics of some team members, it must be hard to be viewed negatively, even if you're a completely honest team player, it certainly must have impacts on the morales of players in the Pakistan camp. I'm sure its terrible thinking that people are thinking negative of you and your cricketing establishment and then playing in generally difficult overcast conditions. Any side would suffer if three key players, essentially the star performers of the test series just finished, are down and out. Its not a good feeling to play under a cloud, BUT, come on Boys, take it as part of the pressure and move on. Don't let the negativities get you down. Fight, like the cornered tigers you were once revered as !!!

  • on September 7, 2010, 22:12 GMT

    Truly, he is aggressive and fair player. Instead of making lame excuses, he takes responsibility of the defeat. But can he let the moral of his team lift in ODIs? Pak Team has been unpredictable over the years and one victory can lift them high - its true. Second, Afridi is right - players should forget about the things going on and also forget they don't have their fast bowlers. Pakistan is renowned to be a pace bowling factory and if Irfan (an other pace factory product - more devastating) is included in team, he can make remarkable difference. The problem is their batting and fielding. In previous T20 match, they lost because of 10-20 short runs plus poor fielding.

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  • on September 7, 2010, 22:12 GMT

    Truly, he is aggressive and fair player. Instead of making lame excuses, he takes responsibility of the defeat. But can he let the moral of his team lift in ODIs? Pak Team has been unpredictable over the years and one victory can lift them high - its true. Second, Afridi is right - players should forget about the things going on and also forget they don't have their fast bowlers. Pakistan is renowned to be a pace bowling factory and if Irfan (an other pace factory product - more devastating) is included in team, he can make remarkable difference. The problem is their batting and fielding. In previous T20 match, they lost because of 10-20 short runs plus poor fielding.

  • cricket_fan_1980 on September 7, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    Come on Boys, put up a fight. I know its been hard, there is confusion in the air regarding the ethics of some team members, it must be hard to be viewed negatively, even if you're a completely honest team player, it certainly must have impacts on the morales of players in the Pakistan camp. I'm sure its terrible thinking that people are thinking negative of you and your cricketing establishment and then playing in generally difficult overcast conditions. Any side would suffer if three key players, essentially the star performers of the test series just finished, are down and out. Its not a good feeling to play under a cloud, BUT, come on Boys, take it as part of the pressure and move on. Don't let the negativities get you down. Fight, like the cornered tigers you were once revered as !!!

  • bugnot on September 7, 2010, 22:15 GMT

    Very difficult situation for the entire Pakistani team.

  • archilion on September 7, 2010, 22:25 GMT

    Its just the wrong phase for Pakistan cricket. Everyone knows they are an unpredictably dangerous team and doesn't deserve to be at this poor state. All they need to do is get their mind in right direction, pull up all their strengths together and see themselves as a 'team' by supporting each other. Personally, I never liked Afridi because of his harsh attitude and faulty cricketing techniques, but I really wish he take the Pakistan to a place where they deserve to be. Otherwise, we are just loosing a competitive side for nothing.

  • Lahori_Munde on September 7, 2010, 22:34 GMT

    Very unfortunate time for Pakistan and Pakistan fans. Obvious that this crisis was in making for years. I can't belive that many Pakistani fans are still in denial mode along with the PCB management and blaming others for their comprehensive failure. Imrankhan said it very well that the roots of such crimes are in the Pakistani society. Corruption, lies, propaganda, lack of proper education and always denial to accept the truth build their Player's Psyche. And as Khan said such Micro issue in every front of the life in Pakistan turns in to Macro issues like match fixing at the global level. The PCB is at fault here more then players. I would say the PCB should be punished heavily as well. They're ruining this game for the entire world.

  • vichan on September 7, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    With the way England seem to be playing in this format of the game, I wouldn't bet against them breaking the record for most consecutive wins. For Pakistan, who are the joint record holders...what a difference a year makes, I guess.

  • on September 7, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    I think the team is shattered, it needs an over-haul, new blood now which is not tainted anymore. We plead to Great Imran Khan to be at the helm of the administration, it should not take much effort from him and things would be back on track again, he can always get help from the other great Miandad, who can be his right hand man! It would be a charitable cause, or so it seems with each passing day,

  • on September 7, 2010, 23:03 GMT

    every thing happend as england plane for it,match fixing is no doubt about been part of all team,s, icc know very well what,s going on,but england use pakitan to sacrifiesthem on there incoming trip to aussies,they did through pakistan crickit in hail,sooner or later they will be going shame on there self,beleave or not, every thing they did to get ashies.

  • Taz786 on September 7, 2010, 23:29 GMT

    I think it would be best for everyone that Pakistan go home now. I can see the ODI's been totally one sided in favour of England. Who wants to watch a no contest ?

  • on September 7, 2010, 23:31 GMT

    Pakistan needs a therapist. :/. Their moral is down and clearly the team is depressed. Professional help is the only way to bring back their mood up.