England v Pakistan, 4th ODI, Lord's September 19, 2010

Teams battle to retain focus

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Match facts

September 20, 2010, Lord's
Start time 1pm (12pm GMT)

Big picture

It is just three weeks since these two sides last met at Lord's in an encounter that will live in infamy whatever the result of investigations into allegations of spot-fixing in the fourth Test. A match that included a display of Mohammad Amir's teenage brilliance and an equally eye-catching fightback from Stuart Broad and Jonathan Trott ended in an atmosphere of tense and eerie quiet as England sealed a joyless innings and 225-run thrashing.

The tour continued despite Amir, Mohammad Asif and Salman Butt's suspension and even after an easy win for England in the first one-dayer fans on both sides turned out in large numbers at Headingley and The Oval. They were treated to what were, arguably, the two most enthralling contests this summer as England went 2-0 up before a career-best effort from Umar Gul brought the visitors back from the brink of a series defeat.

Now, Pakistan's visit has been thrown into yet more turmoil with the news that the ICC is investigating the third ODI after it received information from a newspaper before the game began alleging that bookies were aware of certain scoring patterns that occurred during the match. While the ICC have been quick to point out that it would be premature to suggest anything untoward occurred during Pakistan's 23-run win, the fans' show of faith now appears depressingly naive.

It had been hoped that Pakistan's visit could finish on the positive note of a hard-fought contest, but the focus may well be elsewhere after the most recent allegations and the frustration and sadness in the England camp was evident ahead of the fourth match. Morale in Pakistan's squad will also have been undermined and it will be a challenge to retain the momentum gleaned from Friday's win. An autumnal Lord's may well seem a bleak venue for what could have been an eagerly-anticipated clash.

Form guide (last five completed matches)

England LWWWL
Pakistan WLLWLL

Watch out for...

Ian Bell is poised to return to international duty with England after being recalled to the one-day squad for the final two matches. Bell was been in prolific form for Warwickshire since returning from his metatarsal injury and though he might have hoped for more pleasant circumstances in which to cement his England spot, with a challenging winter ahead he will be looking to make the most of every opportunity.

Shahid Afridi showed glimpses that he was beginning to return to his destructive best at The Oval and if he can find form with the bat and rhythm with the ball he is dynamic and charismatic enough to be a dangerous player regardless of any off-field distractions. Afridi has so far managed to remain distanced from the allegations swirling around his team, and will still be looking to lead from the front.

Team news

Ravi Bopara's return to England's middle order has only been partially successful, and either he or Luke Wright could sit out if Paul Collingwood has recovered from the virus that kept him out of the third match and Bell slots back into the line-up.

England (possible) 1 Andrew Strauss (capt), 2 Steve Davies (wk), 3 Jonathan Trott, 4 Ian Bell, 5 Paul Collingwood, 6 Eoin Morgan, 7 Michael Yardy, 8 Tim Bresnan, 9 Graeme Swann, 10 Stuart Broad, 11 James Anderson

An embattled Pakistan are likely to stick to the same starting XI, both because this unit was successful in the last match and to present a unified front as the storm surrounding the most recent round of allegations gathers force.

Pakistan (probable) 1 Kamran Akmal (wk), 2 Mohammad Hafeez, 3 Asad Shafiq, 4 Mohammad Yousuf, 5 Fawad Alam, 6 Umar Akmal, 7 Shahid Afridi, 8 Abdul Razzaq, 9 Umar Gul, 10 Saeed Ajmal, 11 Shoaib Akhtar

Pitch and conditions

Saturday's CB 40 Final, which was also a day/night affair, gave a good indication of what to expect at Lord's. In a match dominated by the ball but won by a batsman, Imran Tahir's returns were the most impressive. The seamers also found plenty in the pitch to keep them interested, however, and Bell's knock highlighted the value of having someone to bat through most of the innings. Although temperatures are likely to be on the low side once again, rain shouldn't be an issue.

Stats and Trivia

  • Bell's performance against Somerset extended his domestic limited-overs tally this season to 554 runs at 61.55, including six fifties and Saturday's fluent hundred. Bell has also been in decent nick in his limited Championship and he scored the only hundred of the match against Hampshire last week to secure Warwickshire's spot in Division One.

  • Umar Gul clearly enjoys bowling at The Oval, and has taken 20 wickets at an average of 11.00 across three formats there. He is less enamored with Lord's, where has 12 wickets in two Tests and three T20Is at 31.08.

  • Opinions are split over Fawad Alam's success as a one-day player. While he has an impressive average of 45.00 that has been inflated by finishing not out eight times 18 innings in ODIs, and in matches where he has been dismissed his average dips to 27.60. His career strike-rate of 75.00 doesn't suggest that he's set the world alight, but in the ten ODIs he has played in in which Pakistan have won he averages 110.00, and so it appears he relishes the role of stabiliser and finisher in the middle order.

Quotes

"They've been three very hard-fought cricket matches. There certainly seems to be passion on both sides, they've been high intensity affairs."
Despite the most recent round of allegations, England captain Andrew Strauss suggests he's been given the impression of three keenly-contested games

Liam Brickhill is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo in the UK

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  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | September 21, 2010, 15:27 GMT

    its very clear that in our neighbour country, not only the players are corrupted butt the management too....look at the statements given by their board chief...great comedy...no wonder why everyone want their backward country to be banned from playing cricket. the players already sold their country to bookies for money, drugs and to pay the escort veena malik. now the bookies own them.

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | September 21, 2010, 15:22 GMT

    @Agus2010, the comedy is not about none of the indian teams reaching the semi finals in CLT20...its about bowling a no ball (the first ball of 10th over) lol i hope you know the story...

  • POSTED BY cricfan-AS-CA on | September 20, 2010, 20:52 GMT

    Well done Paksitan, this was a great efforts from all the players. We have shown that our team is good and show their performance in the difficult circumstances. Watch out the news, I have feeling tomorrow some english newspaper will come and say the match was fixed as they did on the 3rd ODI. It seems that english people like to riducle pakistan at every step - this should STOP.

    Thanks

  • POSTED BY Agus2010 on | September 20, 2010, 20:26 GMT

    @trickstar What a shame man, Indian govt. invest lot of people money in CLT20, no Indian team can make even semi finals, the biggest joke is Mumbai Indians already out form the series and they have pull out RC by winning the last league match between them (MI won by 2 runs). this is what Indian teams helping Australian and South African domestic teams to go to semi final, what a comedy yeah lol

  • POSTED BY Agus2010 on | September 20, 2010, 20:08 GMT

    Come on Pakistan, even though you didn't get much support from the on field umpires, you have done the good job and show the world what you have capable of, now the supporting people from the loser team will shut up their mouth and the tabloid English media try to find another interesting story to write, I don't know ICC chief Lorgat is doing now, maybe he is waiting for another 3rd class news paper to bring some evidence against Umar Gul, Razzak, Fawad, Hafeez and Afridi to suspend them for the next game, whatever it is, well played Pakistan, all the best

  • POSTED BY Agus2010 on | September 20, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    Congratulations Pakistan team! Once again they have proved that they are the class team by beating the "home" team without the Umpires support (No English batsmen has given "lbw" by their supportive umpires, even though there was 2 decision went against them, they got all the wickets with their best bowling ability, without any doubt of the umpires), even though they have given lot of pressure from the local English media and by ICC, still they kept their nerve and have won the 4th ODI and show the world, they are the best, Well done Pakistan to life the series 3-2, All the best

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    England did not explain that strange collapse in the 3rd match. You just dont collapse in front of a second string pakistani attack.

  • POSTED BY Da-Silva1996 on | September 20, 2010, 13:37 GMT

    England should leave the investigations and allegations to the experts and get on with the game.They are being hammered by a second string Pakistani attack which now concludes how pathetic the English side is.They have no chance at the world cup if they are struggling to beat this demoralised and stripped Pakistan side.I have always believed that the English side like the Indian side is overrated and this proves it.Come on England, stop being whiners like India and sort out your hopeless side.

  • POSTED BY kalimantan on | September 20, 2010, 12:25 GMT

    Why are all pakistani commentors here alleging conspiracy? Can none see the wood for the trees?

    Telling that there was no strong Pakistan rebuttal of the fixing claims, compare that to the English response

  • POSTED BY rantingidiot on | September 20, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    Its all fixed... I have prior knowledge that Andrew Strauss will open the batting for England... ICC should carry out an investigation on how I have that knowlege!!! LOL!!!

    The game of cricket has turned into a JOKE!!! A big fat joke is what it is!!! ICC is willing to investigate anything anyone utters out of their mouth these days!!!

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | September 21, 2010, 15:27 GMT

    its very clear that in our neighbour country, not only the players are corrupted butt the management too....look at the statements given by their board chief...great comedy...no wonder why everyone want their backward country to be banned from playing cricket. the players already sold their country to bookies for money, drugs and to pay the escort veena malik. now the bookies own them.

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | September 21, 2010, 15:22 GMT

    @Agus2010, the comedy is not about none of the indian teams reaching the semi finals in CLT20...its about bowling a no ball (the first ball of 10th over) lol i hope you know the story...

  • POSTED BY cricfan-AS-CA on | September 20, 2010, 20:52 GMT

    Well done Paksitan, this was a great efforts from all the players. We have shown that our team is good and show their performance in the difficult circumstances. Watch out the news, I have feeling tomorrow some english newspaper will come and say the match was fixed as they did on the 3rd ODI. It seems that english people like to riducle pakistan at every step - this should STOP.

    Thanks

  • POSTED BY Agus2010 on | September 20, 2010, 20:26 GMT

    @trickstar What a shame man, Indian govt. invest lot of people money in CLT20, no Indian team can make even semi finals, the biggest joke is Mumbai Indians already out form the series and they have pull out RC by winning the last league match between them (MI won by 2 runs). this is what Indian teams helping Australian and South African domestic teams to go to semi final, what a comedy yeah lol

  • POSTED BY Agus2010 on | September 20, 2010, 20:08 GMT

    Come on Pakistan, even though you didn't get much support from the on field umpires, you have done the good job and show the world what you have capable of, now the supporting people from the loser team will shut up their mouth and the tabloid English media try to find another interesting story to write, I don't know ICC chief Lorgat is doing now, maybe he is waiting for another 3rd class news paper to bring some evidence against Umar Gul, Razzak, Fawad, Hafeez and Afridi to suspend them for the next game, whatever it is, well played Pakistan, all the best

  • POSTED BY Agus2010 on | September 20, 2010, 19:55 GMT

    Congratulations Pakistan team! Once again they have proved that they are the class team by beating the "home" team without the Umpires support (No English batsmen has given "lbw" by their supportive umpires, even though there was 2 decision went against them, they got all the wickets with their best bowling ability, without any doubt of the umpires), even though they have given lot of pressure from the local English media and by ICC, still they kept their nerve and have won the 4th ODI and show the world, they are the best, Well done Pakistan to life the series 3-2, All the best

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 15:23 GMT

    England did not explain that strange collapse in the 3rd match. You just dont collapse in front of a second string pakistani attack.

  • POSTED BY Da-Silva1996 on | September 20, 2010, 13:37 GMT

    England should leave the investigations and allegations to the experts and get on with the game.They are being hammered by a second string Pakistani attack which now concludes how pathetic the English side is.They have no chance at the world cup if they are struggling to beat this demoralised and stripped Pakistan side.I have always believed that the English side like the Indian side is overrated and this proves it.Come on England, stop being whiners like India and sort out your hopeless side.

  • POSTED BY kalimantan on | September 20, 2010, 12:25 GMT

    Why are all pakistani commentors here alleging conspiracy? Can none see the wood for the trees?

    Telling that there was no strong Pakistan rebuttal of the fixing claims, compare that to the English response

  • POSTED BY rantingidiot on | September 20, 2010, 11:58 GMT

    Its all fixed... I have prior knowledge that Andrew Strauss will open the batting for England... ICC should carry out an investigation on how I have that knowlege!!! LOL!!!

    The game of cricket has turned into a JOKE!!! A big fat joke is what it is!!! ICC is willing to investigate anything anyone utters out of their mouth these days!!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 11:47 GMT

    best of luck paksitan shut their mouths once and for all by winning the series show them that putting pressure on us wont win them the series

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 11:46 GMT

    I think news of the world, herald and sun news papers they know about future. Cricket is the game of uncertainty nobody can imagine wat is going on. how they said pakistani fix in38-40 overs of the match n nobody knows how wil come for batting in that situation.In my opinion :THEY FOUND THE ALLADIN'S LAMP" :p

  • POSTED BY Pakarsmtic on | September 20, 2010, 11:44 GMT

    So many quistiones to be answer 1-why always pakistan faces allegation (falls or true) when payed against england in england 2-everytime indian bookies and english media involved 3-how can pakistan won the fixed match it seems that english team is involved in this fixing 4-what is icc doing , just supporting english media without proof, well done lorgot and sharadpawar. Furthermore English commentrator except Naser Hussain are also biased specially Ian Botham that sould be stop.

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 11:37 GMT

    Inshalla Pakistan win all the match.If paksitan won the ICC Blamme on that the match is fix if paksitan loss then nobody say the match is fix in first of all icc watch the match clear then they now how is fix pakistan of England.Englan need 80 ball and 40 runs then y they through there wicket one by one.It means they are fix.ICC Blame on pakistan because ICC put the presure on pakisan.Please think on this and please stop blaming

  • POSTED BY poderdubdubdub on | September 20, 2010, 11:25 GMT

    All these allegations are against ONE country and one country alone whenever they visit these shores!! Their only crime, they beat English team, I quote the great Clive Lloyds what he said at the height of the 1992 ' ball tempering ' allegations saga against Pakistan, Clive Lloyds in a televised debate dismissed the allegations and about England he said "They can't take it". For me that sums it up.

  • POSTED BY ADB1 on | September 20, 2010, 11:09 GMT

    I don't know if the Sun's allegations are a groundless media beat-up or not, but for Ijaz Butt to respond to them (and the ICC's handling of the issue) with an attack upon the character of the English cricket team, without any evidence whatsoever, is an outrageous and unforgiveable slur upon English cricket, and England. I for one hope that England never play the travelling circus known as Pakistani cricket ever again. What a disgrace to the game.

  • POSTED BY AamirFiaz on | September 20, 2010, 11:02 GMT

    Very Sad, on ICC act against pakistan for match fixing on 3rd ODI. That is all senseless match was fixed in 39th and 40th over. That is not less than a joke. How it can be! Who knows who will be playing these overs. Are all the team members invovled in match fixing? plz suspend all pakistani team Its too enough. i think ICC itslef looking involoved in match fixing ! The way they are acting?

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 11:01 GMT

    I feel pity about people who have a big mouth but very lil brain and do not use the stats at all before making a sweeping remarks. Fawad is the only young cricker in the lot who has an avg of 45 in ODI and with a strike rate of 75 which is not bad at all. For comparison, Umar Akmal has an avg of 38 and strike rate of 85 in ODI who is arguably our best young talent. For heaven's sake, pls let the boys play for a while especially those who have made it through just based on merit. Fawad and Asad are two talented cricketers with clean past and bright future.

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 10:51 GMT

    Khurram Sheraz, you echoed my recent thought on the issue. For these games to be fixed, Pakistan must be such accurate and amazing batsmen and bowlers that no matter who they face as batsmen they can score exactly as ordered, and no matter what kind of pitch they bowl on they can take wickets at will or artificially inflate anyone's score. This to me isn't making sense. Mr.BU, I suggest you instead ask why Pakistan insisted with Imran Farhat for so long. Fawad Alam is a far better batsman than he is, I say give him a break. I'm not sure what the motives are for ICC and News of the Week, etc, but these fixing allegations are looking to hold less and less water as each story breaks and each day passes. Are they trying to create some sort of cult following for Pakistan via reverse psychology or something?

  • POSTED BY NadirKhan00 on | September 20, 2010, 10:42 GMT

    Mr. BU, if any players that is pride of Pakisan, than it is none other than Fawad Alam at the moment. He is consistent. don't go the way we plays, but the run he scores! mr. Sharad Powar would definitely try his best to keep Pakistan out of cricket now! And he is getting some what successful too!

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 10:31 GMT

    This is Pressure Fixing . England media & icc pressure rise pakistan team . every good performer player such as muhammad aamir ( man of the series-test) muhammad aasif , salman butt ( scoring runs) blamed & out to the team for relaxing england team. fawad alam score 64 runs in Oval, London , Pakistan won by 23 runs & second day blamed fawad for without sports visa playing for club? when pakistan won the oval match once again English media try to Pressure Fixing & blame ,In this match England bowlers bowl 7 wides balls & Pakistani bowlers bowl only 4 wides English players against Umer Gull like school Cricketers? why ICC not launching investigation against English players? i think really this is pressure fixing against Pakistan << Pressure Rise Pakistan Team & Won Match >>. this is strategy of English Media & icc for pakistan.

  • POSTED BY Mashood_Pakistan on | September 20, 2010, 10:30 GMT

    it is a drama. Not this much big as it is highlighted. The game must continue and it hurts the whole nation, locally and internationaly

  • POSTED BY Waqar_Hassan on | September 20, 2010, 10:23 GMT

    Usually the teacher always keep an eye on the most naughty student in the class for any wrong doings and in our case we have developed that kind of reputation thats why we are always under the scanner... Those who are pointing fingers on Broad must remember what our dear Boom Boom did few months ago... Bite the ball in the middle of a ground.... and said he was smelling the ball...can someone teach me how to smell the ball from teeth? or explain to me the reason why he need to smeel the ball?

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 10:13 GMT

    this is the continuation of our enemies' attempt to ISOLATE this country from the world scene in evey walk of life. but this great nation will rise again and again like in the USOPEN 2010?

  • POSTED BY SYEDAKIFSHOAIB on | September 20, 2010, 10:05 GMT

    Understanding themselves to be torchbearers of the game of cricket, the ICC should never have made Sun newspaper's groundless allegations public before carrying out internal investigations. without any proofs why would you want to disrupt an already clouded tour with a news like that? Why Lorgat why???

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    i think it is a mixed conspiracy of bcci and acb

  • POSTED BY Junaidddd on | September 20, 2010, 10:04 GMT

    how dare that icc to blame on all pakistani players & hurt the feelings of a country specially after we were already hurt in test match blames ? i think all cricket boards should wake up on icc's minds to finger any countries pride. they should have shown their trust after that all happened.

    but right thing happened that those three cricketers did not continue to play the series & sent back to pakistan , SO WHAT ELSE ICC WANTS NOW .........? to attack on all pakistani's pride cricketers?????????

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 10:03 GMT

    Hello there just take a minute and think:

    1. all these allegation's against oneside that is CLAPPING with s single HAND. 2. if every thing is true THAN PAKISTAN TEAM is full with TALENTED PLAYERS who can change the scenario of a match WHENEVER THEY WANT. (Amazingly) 3. ITs unbelievable when PAKISTAN wins it is fixed and When PAKISTAN LOSSES the match is fixed. 4. just on the basis of allegation's why should v think that PAKISTAN TEAM is the CULPRIT

    this propognada against PAKISTAN will never succeed.

  • POSTED BY Mr.BU on | September 20, 2010, 10:00 GMT

    Why are we persisting with Fawad Alam on the team??? We have a fully functioning women's team... why then??? there he could clear the boundary for once too.

  • POSTED BY Asif_Iqbal on | September 20, 2010, 9:59 GMT

    Pakistan is a true champion at the same time playing against Eng,Umpires,ICC and so called very clean,clear and honesr english and indian media...........ha ha ha

  • POSTED BY Snick_To_Backward_Point on | September 20, 2010, 9:57 GMT

    A number of presumably Pakistan supporters seem to offer defensive justifications for some of the Pakistani team members bringing the game into disrepute.

    Ranging from paranoid comments about hidden agendas, ICC conspiracies to even making accusations of England players cheating.

    For the most part, the one glaringly obvious ommission from a considered point of view is a willingness to even consider that the allegations might be true.

    Think about it and be open-minded about the situation.

    Cricket is founded upon the findamental premise of decency & fair play. Whether you like it or not, 3 Pakistani players stand accused with powerful evidence of match fixing. IN THAT CONTEXT a further allegation has been made about the latest ODI. The ICC is bound to act. They have no choice.

    Instead of acceptance & a willingness to take responsibility, seems to me the overwhelming response of Pakistani supporters is one of wounded pride and defensive posturing.

  • POSTED BY Asif_Iqbal on | September 20, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    Nobody asking how the booies and New of the world that Pakistan will bowl 1st on the 1st day of lords test , toss were also fixed ??????????????????????????????

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    I will only speak with respect to the last fixing allegation, the one about scoring patterns. Such a feat is impossible to achieve without involving the bowling side.

    Let me quote an example, the fix is score 3 runs of this over, what if the bowler bowls 5 wides, what if there are over-throws that go for 4? Does the ICC not have common-sense. How can they pin such an allegation onto Pakistan ONLY. This particular allegation has put serious question marks on the integrity of ICC as cricket's supreme authority. I dont have a shadow of a doubt that the people and the authorities are inherently biased towards Pakistan.

    I request all those with anti-pakistan sentiments to please explain this anomaly to me. I would really appreciate a LOGICAL answer to it.

  • POSTED BY Asif_Iqbal on | September 20, 2010, 9:53 GMT

    All the fixing darma just to de value the high profile Pak Eng series and incerease the value of so called Champins League in which former and current champion not participating. Last day MI and RCB played a fixed match but at the end RCB were dispointed just because even they lost but they do t confirm the MI chance for semi.

  • POSTED BY MaxG9 on | September 20, 2010, 9:50 GMT

    Will the patron of Pakistan Cricket please remove this mega, mega, super buffoon from further damaging Pakistani cricket (& by extension World cricket)?? Unfortunately for Cricket he lives up to his name! A more incompetent & utterly stupid person has yet to run a National Cricket Board & we have seen some real incompetents in our time. Max Gunasekera, Sri Lanka.

  • POSTED BY poderdubdubdub on | September 20, 2010, 9:49 GMT

    Pakistan won the third ODI at oval fair and squre, I dont think there was any fixing of any sort by any team. However what is beyond doubt is that English fans and English media could not DIGEST Pakistan hard earned victory. The English media has now done its job and has defocussed and demoralised Pakistan team once again so they can eastly win at lords, how sad!!

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 9:42 GMT

    Pak rocks.. Pak will win the worldcup 2011

  • POSTED BY pull2open on | September 20, 2010, 9:20 GMT

    @JonAbraham: As an umpire, I deplore any action outside the spirit of the game, but there's a world of difference between on-field gamesmanship of the type that Stuart Broad has undoubtedly been guilty of (and, to some extent at least, punished for) and attempts to increase personal wealth through betting scams. Broad's actions reflect badly on him personally, but betting scams bring the credibility of the entire game down.

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 9:09 GMT

    I THINK ICC'S REAL PICTURE HAD EXPOSED NOW. THEY ARE WOLVES WHICH ALWAYS ATTACK FROM BEHIND, THAT IS WHY THEY HAVE STARTED INVESTIGATION WITHOUT INFORMING PCB AND NOW MAKING FALSE STATEMENTS THAT THEY HAD TRIED THEIR BEST TO HAVE CONTACT WITH PCB CHIEF IJAZ BUTT. I WANT TO ASK ICC, WAS THERE NO OTHER PERSON IN THE HIGH UPS OF PCB TO WHOM THEY CAN CONTACT IF IJAZ WAS NOT ONLINE. ITS SUCH A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT BY THE MEDIA MANAGEMENT OF ICC, AND IT SHOWS THE TRUE REALITY THAT ITS THE CONSPIRACY AGAINST OUR TEAM AND OUR COUNTRY PARTICULAR. ONE MORE THING I WILL SUGGEST TO ICC, THAT THEY SHOULD BRING ENGLAND TEAM INTO THEIR ENQUIRY, IF THEY ARE DOING, AS FAR AS THIRD ODI WAS CONCERNED. THE REASON BEHIND IT WAS THAT AT ONE IN THAT MATCH ENGLAND WERE 201 FOR 5 WITH 12 OVER REMAINING AND 41 MORE RUNS NEEDED TO WIN AND AFTER THAT THEY WERE FELL LIKE A HOUSE OF CARDS FOR 218 IN 45.4 OVERS. I MEAN, ENGLAND TEAM MEMBERS ARE NOT COME FROM THE HEAVENS, THAT ICC HAD EXCLUDED THEM INVESTIGATION.

  • POSTED BY Gazatteer on | September 20, 2010, 8:57 GMT

    It's all a conspiracy...

    Indian bookies...Not many people watch Pak team especially in India, never mind betting on them.

    Indian cricket is watched all over the world and Indian players are superstars in India. It is easy for Indian bookies to fix matches/spot fix with Indian superstars then with any other players from other countries. It's common sense. The underworld of India is highly involved.

    So much poverty in India that they want become rich overnight so they bet that is why Cricket is so popular in India that is why bookie attract Indian players more than any other team.

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | September 20, 2010, 8:56 GMT

    Our neighbour match fixing country must be banned from playing cricket for at least 5 years and ICC should help the backward country to restore the game clean.

  • POSTED BY karthikfromchennai on | September 20, 2010, 8:53 GMT

    Match Fixing has hurt the game to a great extent and its very bad to see even a clean win is under investigation. India did a great thing by banning Azhar (who played 99 tests) for life and punishing Jadeja for 5 years, ( these were very tough decisions) but certainly helped to eradicate match fixing at least in the matches played by India. Also the hoesty and commitment of the players such Sachin, Saurav, Dravid, Kumble, Laxman, Srinath who represented team India in the late 90's and early 2000's. They are legends and played cricket with such passion and inspired the youngsters. So, the the role of senior players is very important in eradicating match fixing at any level. Probably the reason why our neighbours suffer today...there is no commitment and their focus is on money. Amir is a spoilt talent.

  • POSTED BY Gazatteer on | September 20, 2010, 8:50 GMT

    1. SL tour - Despite poor security none of the players died.

    2. Hare and the Tortoise incident- nothing was proved but Pak descredited by ECB/ICC/Media

    3. Everytime Pak tour ENG something happens.

  • POSTED BY monkeymayhem on | September 20, 2010, 8:33 GMT

    @ pk_cric_rox

    I'd love it if the first ball was a full toss now. Mainly coz I put a sneaky tenner on it... Seriously though it's a disgraceful outburst. I can't believe anyone is questioning the legitimacy of an England batting collapse. Any followers of the English game will tell you time and again that it happens too often, but not because the players take bribes, but because they get themselves out, or in this case because they come up against a world class ODI performer in Umar Gul. Lets all be honest and say that Pakistan just won the match. Let's ignore the Sun as it loses appeal after page 3 and let's just play the last 2 matches.

    Strangely though, I can't see anyone else offering PCB a home tour now. Ijaz Butt is a fool for coming out with this nonsense. I sympathise with all the players as he has completely ruined the validity of a series win for both teams.

  • POSTED BY kalimantan on | September 20, 2010, 8:15 GMT

    To Tayyeb, Yorkshire CC lost money on the Pak-Aus test match at Headlingley....

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 8:05 GMT

    Why does everyone put English crickets above cheating? Did every one forget Stuart broads antics?

  • POSTED BY D.aslam on | September 20, 2010, 7:42 GMT

    Infect the English media helping english team to win over pakistan by using there media. Its open secrete that every time we tour england they came up stories to let down pakistan team you know why...

    1- world cup 1992

    2-pakistan tour of england 92 -93

    3-mike gating and shakoor rana incident.

    they want to win with this tactics off the field.

  • POSTED BY bkraks21 on | September 20, 2010, 7:29 GMT

    @the guy who suggestes to sue ICC - clean up ur own mess first mate before saying others are inept and reactive. What your dear Mr Butt does is inept and I would HIGHLY reactive. Stabbing the country in the back who helped you to come back to professional Test cricket.

  • POSTED BY bkraks21 on | September 20, 2010, 7:28 GMT

    @the guy who suggestes to sue ICC - clean up ur own mess first mate before saying others are inept and reactive. What your dear Mr Butt does is inept and I would HIGHLY reactive. Stabbing the country in the back who helped you to come back to professional Test cricket.

  • POSTED BY bkraks21 on | September 20, 2010, 7:25 GMT

    Butt says the word going around in Bookie Circles. Does this mean he is involved with the bookies? PCB and Pak Cricket is a joke. No Integrity. Same as the politicians of Pakistan.

  • POSTED BY bkraks21 on | September 20, 2010, 7:25 GMT

    Butt says the word going around in Bookie Circles. Does this mean he is involved with the bookies? PCB and Pak Cricket is a joke. No Integrity. Same as the politicians of Pakistan.

  • POSTED BY Kula_Bowls_Inswing on | September 20, 2010, 7:22 GMT

    @funi.kriket. Your latest comment is an absolute disgrace. Cricket in England remains very popular, despite the coverage given to football. Test cricket in England, albeit not so much this year, attracts full houses, which it doesn't do in many other terst countries. I went to the 2nd ODI at Headingley, and although there was a large contingent of Pakistan supporters, the majority of the crowd were still cheering for England. It is ridiculous to suggest that the ECB is stirring up this controversy to attract more coverage of cricket. Cricket in England remains popular enough to retain some coverage without it being negative coverage. If anything, the spot-fixing scandal is putting people off cricket, especially after the 2nd and 3rd ODIs seemed to go some way to getting the focus back on cricket, before fresh allegations. People are saddened and angry about what has happened, it hasn't boosted cricket's popularity, or even attendances, as the T20s in Cardiff showed.

  • POSTED BY aceruser on | September 20, 2010, 6:59 GMT

    Now all Pakistani fans know what ICC is cooking and pulling. Hey "ICC" if you dont want to pay Pakistan is World Cup Cricket Matches Share, please have gutts stand up in a press conference and say it out, we dont want to pay Pakistan its share. But please do not adopt these low, shameful methods to sideline Pakistan. ICC has lost its credibility in the eyes of true cricket lovers. People who follow cricket closely know what ICC is trying to achieve, not to mention the influence on ICC executives. ICC might also want Pakistan not to play forth coming WC. Hey, cricket is already unpoplar in most part of the world, eliminating Pakistan wont favour cricket world, Cricket world as a whole would lose a passionate cricket playing nation. Let me re-call you few things here..... Imran Khan, Wasim Akram, Rawalpindi Express, Javed Miandad, Zaheer Abaas, Saeed Anwar, Waqar Younis, Fazal Mehmood, Asif Iqbal, Shoaib Akhtar, Afridi..........every body know what these people have done so far.

  • POSTED BY Aura123 on | September 20, 2010, 6:48 GMT

    I want Butt, Asif and Amir punished if found guilty and thank you England for giving us netural venue to play but i do not understand

    All the allegations have one thing in common that Bookies are Indians

    Does this not raise that question that some IPL / Champion league games are fix or spot fixing going on in these games

    Why ICC is so quick to tell the media about investigations before talking to PCB ?

    Why all the media are using their resources to investigate Pakistan team , I have not heard any media sending their agents to investigate IPL / Champion league or Indian cricket team or any other team. Are they all so clean ?

    Come on even a kid can understand now that their is something going on against Pak cricket

  • POSTED BY lucy82 on | September 20, 2010, 6:44 GMT

    How can Pakistan fans be so deluded to believe Butt's deflection tactics? shame on the lot of you.

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 6:08 GMT

    Contd....

    And last but not the least......Morgan's dismissal. Someone who was consistently finding the boundaries and gaps for over half an hour....suddenly decides to give a dolly straight down Wahab Riaz's throat......because he was getting to close when england were supposed to lose. Plus....he didn't take the powerplay when it could have won england the game....

    Of course....all this was not possible without Strauss' involvement...

    Let's get them Mr. Lorgat....here is a case which 'seems' to be correct!!!!

    Nice comments Mr Zahid!!! :-)

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 5:44 GMT

    All those who talk of England being hospitable to give Pakistan team a game / series to play, just one point despite, being a home series for Pakistan v Aus, ECB and local county grounds were making more money than the PCB. More than the bookies have alleged to pay the trio. Wake up to the fact that money rules the game. Thats why Kerry Packer, ICL and IPL thrieved.

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 5:20 GMT

    Butt is an example of foot in mouth senility! Having said that over numbers 38-46 were the ones where collapse for English line up took place with particular scoring trends (?predicted). In the history of ODIs one of the massive collapses! Could the Sun have not got the team colours wrong? Perhaps a case of colour blindness? Not very far fetched.

    Lets see... Atherton and sand issue, Gatting and Rana saga, Beefy and pot West Indian trip and on and on .. hollier than thou?

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 5:11 GMT

    Its appalling to see Butt say something like that to ECB or English players. They helped us when we were in tough situation after our own security failures brought hell at home on SL team. Why the heck would you go around burning bridges like that. It is PCB to be blamed for everything from SL team attack to spot fixing not ECB or ICC or anyone else. SL team came to help when teams were reluctant to play, what happened to them?? ECB and CA helped by playing Spirit of Cricket and other quality cricket and further offering there venues for more games if Pak needed it and what do our players do and our board does??? It is next to outlandish to say such a thing about English players. Every Pakistani very well knows that from the times of Akram or perhaps even before until now, Pak players take money to predetermine some details of a game on top of match fixing of the past. Stop blaming others for your own faults guys. If you want cricket to survive, take responsibility for your actions.

  • POSTED BY sternUSman on | September 20, 2010, 4:45 GMT

    To the ICC and all those laying allegations over the Pakistan cricket team, take my 2 cents: "Put up or Shut up!!!"

  • POSTED BY on | September 20, 2010, 4:41 GMT

    comeon pakistan win this and next game inshallah england will lost 4th and 5th odi. and icc plz investigate english team and also notice the atitude of english newspapers and haroon lorgat

  • POSTED BY pk_cric_rox on | September 20, 2010, 4:22 GMT

    the prestigious english newspaper 'the sun' has just informed ICC about a call made by a bookie about 4th ODI. he was recorded saying umar gul will stretch his arms n legs before starting his first over and this stretching is a signal to bookies that all of his 6 deliveries in first over will bounce only once before reaching batsman. ICC is now keeping an eye on the match n if all 6 balls bounce only once before reaching the batsman umar gul will b facing an inquiry. we gota give it to the sun. their intelligence is smarter then CIA. but why r they using it all on pakistan cricketers when they can make the world a better place by using their secret agents? i guess pakistan cricket is more important to them then world peace

  • POSTED BY U.A.1985 on | September 20, 2010, 3:32 GMT

    @Hindh88, trickstar & Ameshito

    It is no big deal to predict scoring patterns. People who are masters at the science of satistics, probabilities and mathematics can easily predict the scoring pattern of each and every game in cricket. This can be done by studying past games of cricket and then putting foward a predicion of future.

    How many people think that games in footbal world cup were fixed? Is it possible that a stupid octopus can predict games? Well no, neither the games were fixed nor the octopuss was a genius but the real story is that there were some real people behind this effort i.e. statisticians helped the octopuss choose the winning team based on history of past events in football.

    So thinking before speaking is a necessary and we all should practise that art...

  • POSTED BY Hindh on | September 20, 2010, 2:36 GMT

    All the credibility of pakistan seems to be lost ..if there was anymore left. Now ICC needs to take some hard actions or else Pak wud be refused to be played by any team. Guys here r blaming england ,ECB must be thinkin now what the hell have we done by inviting these guys.

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | September 20, 2010, 2:32 GMT

    I heard two bookies talking. it says, england will bat after winning the toss and that in the 13th over they will score exactly 5 runs. They are also supposed to lose the match. Come on Lorgat lets catch them

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 23:54 GMT

    UK media and India media are on a campaign to malign Pakistan beyond the realm of being truthful. ICC is like a child lost in the spot fixing scandal. If Pakistan team is not complicit in a "Spot Fixing" in the 3rd one day. I would urge to take ICC to court. The sum has to be large enough so that ICC finds it painful. ICC needs to find more competent people than Lorgat and Pawar. There are inept, reactive and uncouth in their approach. PCB should sue ICC for $10B otherwise these vultures will hound Pakistan on slightest pretext.

    Why hasn't ICC disclosed the content of Scotland Yard Inquiry? I wish to read the report. I want Butt, Asif and Amir punished if found guilty and they should leave Pakistan for good.

  • POSTED BY PatrickJM on | September 19, 2010, 23:24 GMT

    Looking at this from a neutral point of view, Ijaz Butt's comments are a masterpiece in political deflection. Butt is taking advantage of the assumptions that are prevalent in the media ie accuse Pakistan - there's something fishy going on; accuse England - how dare you criticise these England boys?! Does anybody seriously expect the PCB to act in any other way than to protect its cricketers?

  • POSTED BY funi.kriket on | September 19, 2010, 23:23 GMT

    @lucy82 , england isnt giving any home to pakistan cricket. they r only earning money through pakistan.look at any match and u can clearly see pakistani crowd outnumbering home crowd.its a fact that cricket isnt very popular in england anymore and everybody here wants to watch football only n staging such a series n decorating them with controversies is a good way to make the game popular in this country again and all the profit earned by local newspaper n media is just a bonus.every country wants to host sporting events becoz its just a good n profitable business n brings money into that country then how can u ever say england has done pakistan any favour by staging this series? is all the money going to pakistan cricket board or pakistan government? NO its all here so dont b so naive to think that MCC or ECB is doing pakistan any favour.wat a double policy, first earn all the money then name it 'spirit of cricket' to tell the ppl that u r doing pak a favour.

  • POSTED BY cricket_fan_1980 on | September 19, 2010, 22:54 GMT

    I dont think anybody in the Pakistan camp seriously thinks the English cricket team is involved in fixing. People need to get a perspective. If everybody follows what Ijaz Butt probably means or meant to say, it is that, why is the ICC waving hands and allegations at the Pakistan team and not at the English if they have unclear reports from a sleazy newspaper. I mean seriously, is anybody going to stand up here and vouch for a ridiculous newspaper that makes it bread and butter from making up lies about 100's of celebrities week in and week out. No one is blaming the English cricket team. What disgruntled Pakistan fans are saying is, why is the media and ICC lashing out at Pakistan and dishonouring its status as a full ICC member. There was no need to make sensational remarks and not back anything with proof.

  • POSTED BY Aura123 on | September 19, 2010, 22:52 GMT

    Shame on ICC ( Logart) working with BCCI ( Shardpawar) to destory pakistan cricket and unfortunatally english media is helping their cause

  • POSTED BY PakistanBadsha on | September 19, 2010, 22:02 GMT

    ICC has to investigate English team the way they lose 5 wickets for 17 runs... British Media is destroying the integrity of Cricket. Looks like English board is taking the revenge of Losing 1992 world cup . Please don't be biased

  • POSTED BY northumbriannomad on | September 19, 2010, 22:00 GMT

    @Itzafridi, I stopped watching Pakistan a couple of weeks ago, and I won't start again until I know they're playing a real game of cricket. For the record, my favourite cricketer when I was a child was Asif Iqbal. Imran Khan ran him a close second. I know exactly how much loved the game is in Pakistan, and I also know how important Pakistan is to international cricket. But at the moment, and until the PCB stops wriggling about and talking the kind of specious nonsense Ijaz Butt talked today, in other words until it starts taking this seriously and roots out the nest of crooks, I don't think we should be playing them.

  • POSTED BY TheSmudge on | September 19, 2010, 21:20 GMT

    Yes, you are all right. England must have thrown that match. The way Bresnan and Broad made Gul bowl those perfect in swingers was pure criminal brilliance

  • POSTED BY Zohaib.R.Q. on | September 19, 2010, 21:15 GMT

    well u got 13 players playing for england ( umpires included ) and still they loose- sure the match is fixed, but its the wrong team ICC are investigating.

  • POSTED BY PakistanBadsha on | September 19, 2010, 20:53 GMT

    I have only 5 words to say SHAME ON ICC AND Biased ENGLISH MEDIA

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 20:52 GMT

    I think ICC has plans to sideline Pakistan as it is evident from recent controversy. They started full investigation against Pakistan cricket in 3rd ODI without even bothering to inform PCB. PCB has the right to defend its stance and take corrective action accordingly.

  • POSTED BY cornertigers on | September 19, 2010, 20:51 GMT

    listen criclet lovers from pakistan, dont fool yourself and wait for the icc investigations crap, punishments been already written down i can guaranti you all three players will be banned as planned by logart. challenge for icc has arised now as SUN stupidly anounced spot fixing again but it dropped icc in a mess if its true as icc admitted they investigating then be honest and investigate this match, All fingers pointed at English players by looking at facts. Are you gona be a man enough to serve the justice mr logart?? doubt it....

  • POSTED BY habi2010 on | September 19, 2010, 20:50 GMT

    i just wrote an email to ICC chief 'haroon logart'....i know the details of Pakistani innings in 4th odi. they'll be three down by the 10 over, and 5 down till 30th, and one more interesting 'information' i have, one of the player will hit a six and then get out in next three overs! Hurry up ICC, stop Pakistan from playing international cricket.

  • POSTED BY cornertigers on | September 19, 2010, 20:36 GMT

    trickstar seems like you are from the same cult as ICC, ENGLISH MEDIA, LOGART and SHARDPAWAR who are working togather to destroy pakistan cricket, first attack on sri lankan team to take cricket away from pakistans home grounds then oposing pakistan to host any games in pakistan or even in UAE. now they want to destroy all top players future just pakistani team is developing into a strong unit. shame on you.

  • POSTED BY Pakipower786 on | September 19, 2010, 20:27 GMT

    Trickstar is right -England as tried to help Pakistan and this is how we have said thank you. The PCB with Ijaz Butt and those Pakistanio players who have played the game in a fradulent manner have let pakistan, thier supporters and the game of cricket down.

  • POSTED BY straitgame on | September 19, 2010, 20:19 GMT

    Jamal Anjum Admittedly PCB is headed by a weak leader. Pakistani team is corrupt.Okay. But ICC officials must remember that Pakistan is a full member.I, as a cricket fan, have the right to ask the ICC to explain its own conduct to the cricketing world. Pakistan lost...Pakistan fixed...Pakistan won...Pakistan fixed. ICC is quick to announce that they have started investigation 'into the scoring pattern of Pakistan' in a match Pakistan won.It appears as if they are impatient to prove something which is not there. Well, public needs to know and ICC is bound by its own rules to disclose the evidence it has against the players. Regardless of the conduct of the cricket teams, please remember ICC is also not immune from investigations for misconduct, flouting the rules and/or not coming forward with all the evidence they claim to have against any player or team. ICC too should be objective, positive responsible, honest and dedicated to the game of cricket.

  • POSTED BY AK47_pk on | September 19, 2010, 20:15 GMT

    ICC has lost all its credibility in the eyesov true cricket fans nd in the eyes ov those, understand cricket....these new allegations are somethin any senseable person will laugh upon....wat a bunch of jokers running ICC....feelin sorry for the game ov cricket...ICC NEEDS RADICAL CHANGES RIGHT NOW...pakistan cricket board should file a case against these 3rd class taboloids nd sue them for defamation...hats off to you pakistan team...we all love you :)

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 20:13 GMT

    Now Pakistan won the first match of the series and ECB the worst board has big problem in that. If the third match was fixed then why ICC is not investigating on british players. ICC knows how strong pak team is and logat and pawar wants india to win the world cup and they want pak to be out of the world cup. There is no way india or england will win the cup shame on icc and shame on ecb screw u all east and west pak is the best.

  • POSTED BY funi.kriket on | September 19, 2010, 19:59 GMT

    infact everybody wants pakistanis to admit that their cricketers r cheaters and they dont deserve any support.my question is would an english, indian or australian fan start pelting his player with eggs rite after he is accused or u will support him for the sake of ur country and game n wait for a decision from some authentic organisation? if pakistani players r involved they should b banned for life but how will we justify ourselves n our words, if those guys r innocent? or u dont care wat the truth is and blaming pakistani cricketers is the only thing that can make u feel good about ur own cricketers? so my point is let pakistanis support their players n their cricket until its proved that anybody was involved in any fixing. because thats wat u would do if ur player was accused of anything.wouldnt u????

  • POSTED BY klobania on | September 19, 2010, 19:52 GMT

    @trickstar u know why other teams like to play with india because they not only earning money frm them but also like to thrash them see the results of champions league everyone is performing apart of india man dont worry abt pak but just think of ur hard earned money being looted by foreign players n also thrashing u guyz

  • POSTED BY funi.kriket on | September 19, 2010, 19:51 GMT

    a day before 3rd odi me n my pakistani colleague spread a rumour in our office that this match is fixed and kamran akmal will lose his wicket cheaply. we knew he is out of form n after 2 good innings it is very very unlikely he will play a 3rd consecutive good innings. trust me,, nobody in my whole office even asked where i got this news from or how authentic it is n everybody started saying yeah pakistani cricketers r cheaters n they sold out the match.me n my colleague couldnt stop laughing at their reaction n how blindly they believed wat we said.next day kamran akmal couldnt score much runs n things at office got even funnier. my point is these days u dont need any proof at all to accuse pakistan. over the past decade international media has done such a good job that u can accuse pakistan of anything u want and they will all blindly believe it n nobody even bothers to think in any other direction that anything can b false or fake or there can b another factor involved.

  • POSTED BY lucy82 on | September 19, 2010, 19:45 GMT

    I know you don't think these accusations against Pakistan are true but to turn it back on the England team just reeks of desperation. England gave you a home for your matches and this is how you repay them.

  • POSTED BY Haqim on | September 19, 2010, 19:35 GMT

    I am speechless at this highly unprofessional behavior of ICC and PCB. ICC doesn't bother investigating tabloid stories and goes public without informing it's member board and thus embarrassing them in front of media.

    Unbelievably unprofessional.

    On the other hand, PCB makes mockery of itself by bringing allegation against another member board ECB just to counter attack ICC.

    I see a few patterns:

    Around four years ago, Pakistan team is on visit to England and WRONGLY accused of changing condition of match ball thus leading to forfeit of the test match which they were in a commanding position in and presumably going to win.

    This year at Lord's test, Pakistan pacer Mohammad Amir takes 7 wickets in a sensational manner. The same night, we see allegations of spot-fixing.

    Losing their pace attack and opener, they try to refocus and provide a real fight and ODIs. They manage to win 3rd ODI. Guess what happens??

    Yes. There are allegations of spot-fixing.

  • POSTED BY Testmatch-lover on | September 19, 2010, 19:33 GMT

    Now that the alleged bad apples are out of Pakistan team, why is the blame still being thrown at Pakistan. Just curious why is the English team not being investigated after theie collapase in the 3rd one dayer. The match was in England's pocket and they threw it away. The tabloid newspaper are not worth the paper they are printed on and the ICC has become a puppet in their hand. Everything looks like spot fixing to them.

  • POSTED BY inzisaloos on | September 19, 2010, 19:26 GMT

    First the inept ramblings of the Pakistani High Commissioner making himself look a fool by questioning the legitimacy of the NOTW video footage and now the puerile response of Ijaz Butt who insists after his own players have been found with their hands in the cookie jar that in fact it was England all along! As a Pakistani I am tired of all the conspiracy theorists who want to play the victim and point their fingers at a thousand perceived enemies. We need to be grown up about this and accept that there is a very real problem in Pakistan cricket as well as in Pakistani culture regarding "siwarish" and corruption. To all my Pakistani brothers and sisters I would plead that we stop deluding ourselves about phantom conspiracies and instead face up to some difficult home truths. Lying to ourselves is not going to make the problems go away.

  • POSTED BY Itzafridi on | September 19, 2010, 19:24 GMT

    @Ameshisuto ...You are the Most disgraced person i have ever seen in my life...Cricket without pakistan is nothing and if u have any problems STOP watching Cricket becoz u are disgracing TO this beautiful game "CRICKET"

  • POSTED BY Cricket_my_Heartbeat on | September 19, 2010, 19:16 GMT

    well well well, Mr Logart says that ICC was already informed that something going to happen during Pakistan batting, mean what batting pattern will be there. How Pakistan will bat, how many runs in what over, etc. Then Mr Logart could you please explain that how it can get possible to maintain that pattern if it exists? In fact, it is possible only when the bowler want the same thing to happen. ICC is here just to searching in Pakistan camp and not to others. So case is whether Pakistan wins or lose the game, they have fixed of it..... how funny.... someone fix to win the game. When it comes WADA, only Pakistani players were tested, but not the English players.... Isn't it one sided to bring morale down of Pak players.

  • POSTED BY Paki.Fan. on | September 19, 2010, 19:11 GMT

    Had it been ICC instead of FIFA incharge of the football world cup, Germany & Spain would have been banned and England would be the world champion, as Paul the Octopus's had already knew about the results and Sun had reported this to ICC

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 19:08 GMT

    I want to remind ICC that there are also other teams in cricket who are playing cricket, why they are investing only Pakistan's matches ?

  • POSTED BY amjadani on | September 19, 2010, 19:04 GMT

    ITS natural fact that" empty vessel make much noise" same English media doing against Pakistan cricket. the SUN newspaper is famous for "PAGE 3" a naked picture and paper mainly bought by labour class of UK only 20 pence,, paper always include bogus and hot news to sell more copies... IT seems Pakistan team is playing not only against England cricketers but also facing Rubbish English media, INCOMPETENT ICC... i fully credit to PAK team who playing in a situation where 11 Pakistan players have to lay against whole world.....

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 18:06 GMT

    I think with the latest claim of "investigating the 3rd ODI" the ICC has just shot itseld in the foot... If you had to pick on something BASELESS, you could done a better job then choosing "slow over rate", for which pakistan is infamous since the start of cricket...

    anyways, by this latest move by the puppet ICC, they have lost credibilty, if there was any to start with, regarding all the other recent allegations and suspension you have placed on Pakistan players... U JUST SCREWED URSELF LORGAT.....

    and "IF" this all drama is to by any way demoralise Pakistan just before the World Cup, you all just for a second realise that there is a reason the Pakistan team is labelled the "cornered tigers"..... the chances are, you continue with all these allegation, and the Pak team will actually win the world cup, with or without Amir, Asif or Salman...

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | September 19, 2010, 18:05 GMT

    @Syed Hasan Ali The only people who are 'totally unprofessional, not credible at all', are the Pakistani cricket team.They are going to be left with no where to turn,SA doesn't want to play them,they blown it as far as England helping them out or even playing against them in the future..And why should the ICC have told Pakistan what the scoring pattern was going to be before the did it,all they could do is wait to see if the allegation were correct,even though they tried to tell them but the game had already started.All Pakistan cricket has done this summer has stabbed England in the back,they've bent over backwards to help them,but yet they are ungrateful and are now trying to bring Engllish Cricket down to their levels.I never want to see them play again losers.

  • POSTED BY azakir on | September 19, 2010, 17:56 GMT

    Initially we thought that the spot-fixing allegations had some substance but nothing was proved. And now we have more allegations which are really shameful for the ICC to act upon! This is pure conspiracy against Pakistan cricket. Shame on ICC and english filthy media. We will now support Pakistan team even more.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 17:37 GMT

    Any cricketer can easily understand that no batting pattern can be guranteed unless the bowling unit along with the bowling captain is not involved!!

    ICC you are a crap!!!

  • POSTED BY kriketneutral on | September 19, 2010, 17:23 GMT

    It seems that finally PCB has found its spine to reBUTT the allegations which have been coming in thick and fast from the SUN and its subsidiaries, namely NOTW and ICC. It is indeed deplorable that ICC has the become the prosecutor and judge with the sole motive to malign Pakistan and its cricket establishment. They want Pakistan cricket to be out of circulation and they are prepared to become lapdogs of the media to serve this end. What has really disturbed and perturbed the English cricketers, ICC and the media is that they could not demoralise the Pak team (with all the innuendos , allegations ) and Pak cricketers ability to rise like phoenix. Judos to Afridi and his men and Shame on this unholy and evil alliance of ICC and the media.

  • POSTED BY Gulli_Danda on | September 19, 2010, 17:22 GMT

    Why does the ICC need to act in such an utterly pathetic and flimsy way?Anyone with an iota of morality, honesty,logic and love for the great game of cricket must be feeling disappointment and shock at the way ICC is trying to sideline Pakistan.You loose a match and there is fixing. You win a match and again there is fixing without any proofs simply because you belong to one part of the world. If there was something fishy , it had to be done by English cricketers. They collapsed from 201-5 to loose by 23 runs while chasing 242. Not to mention, they didn't even bother to take the power play with those well settled batsmen? All a conspiracy. Wake up! Its not hidden anymore you buffoons.

  • POSTED BY kalimantan on | September 19, 2010, 17:14 GMT

    Oh. My. God. Ijaz Butt has lost it big-time. Which team is going to want to play against Pakistan now?

  • POSTED BY drcardio1980 on | September 19, 2010, 17:07 GMT

    Role of ICC seems to be highly biased against Pakistan.PCB is also governed by very incompetent ppl.Pakistani cricket is being damaged by both of them.

  • POSTED BY cricket_fan_1980 on | September 19, 2010, 16:56 GMT

    Andy Strauss is saying the right thing and trying to stand above these allegations, that are now spiralling into ridiculous name-calling and far-fetched fantastical and elaborate ploys. He is right that the last few games have been genuine and every member of the playing Pakistan unit just wants some good cricket. I just cant see how a batting unit can orchestrate a pattern in their innings! it is crazy! Who in their right mind can believe it. With the struggles the Pakistan batting side has had, can you really expect them to mastermind a calculated collapse when they can hardly conjure up any runs at all! Myself and hundreds of cricket fans are absolutely fuming at how the ICC gives more credit to something as baseless and depraved as The Sun over an established member of its own ranks. Ofcourse I smell a rat!

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:54 GMT

    Even there was some suspicions, ICC shouldn't have declared it in public before even investigating it. ICC has some bunch of losers in the executive seats. They trust a sensational newspaper "Sun" and think over rate was slow as disclosed by "Sun". Is there anything more ridiculous than this? ICC react like a bunch of 15 years old people.

  • POSTED BY northumbriannomad on | September 19, 2010, 16:53 GMT

    Why are we even bothering to play Pakistan? The world of cricket bends over backwards to try and give them a game, and by way of thanks, they cheat and then, same as they've done every single time, they blame everybody else for being biased against them. Now Ijaz Butt has decided that the entire world is in a conspiracy against Pakistan. The whole season has been an utterly miserable experience and I can't wait for them to go home. Yay - three days and two stupid waste-of-time matches to go. We're always hearing how there's too much cricket being played. Here's the solution. Stop playing Pakistan. That streamlines the schedule quite nicely.

  • POSTED BY Akhsami on | September 19, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    Simple question folks. If I was the Nieghborhood Police force and I was informed BEFORE a crime that it was about to take place would I not do something about it? At least warn those who might be impacted. All the ICC had to tell the Pakistan team was that they were aware about scoring pattern betting they did'nt need to tell them what number of runs in what overs.

    Shame on you ICC. The less said about the Sun the better.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:40 GMT

    People talk about PCB and its Management. How about ICC dull management that they are launching an investigation on the behalf of a newspaper report and event without sharing any information with PCB. We all know who is the chairman of ICC at the moment.My message is if you wanna fight pakistan fight with them on ground but not they cheap way which you have adopted. Current Allegation clearly proves pakistani players are innocent. And the amount of fans turn to watch pakistan at oval and leeds also shows they fan know who is wrong and right.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    The pressure is being deliberately mounted onto the PCB and Pakistan Cricket team just 5months before the start of the world cup. These british tabloid newspapers are totally unprofessional, not credible at all, and to come into the public fore are rounding up baseless and false allegations to malign and defame Pakistani Cricket.

    That's right that our team has been on a losing streak for quite some time now, due to internal problems in the team and PCB itself. This is a perfect scenario for the Anti-Pakistan Forces to join hands and alienate Pakistan Cricket for good by unlawfully tainting the image our sportsmen and the entire set-up.

    To date no concrete evidence or sufficient proof has been found to convict our players.It's all a set-up. These people who're after Pakistan Cricket from left, right and center will not rest until we are labelled cheats.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:19 GMT

    I am very much convinced that 3rd ODI was fixed but ICC is investigating the wrong team. Eng were in match wining position, and all of a sudden their last 5 wickets folded. Morgan threw his wicket away, luke wright was batting well but made no effort to score the remaining runs and was content on remaining notout. allrounders which were scoring test 150+ all of sudden played like the worst no 11 . ICC must start investigating against 33-4 english players and suspend them immeadeatly.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    Why dont they investigate the surprise england collapse against such a weak Pakistani side?

    I mean 200 for 5 with the umpire clearly on your side and then all out for 217? doesnt make sense.

    Also why didnt england take the power play when they had set batsmen in and just 40 runs to win?

  • POSTED BY samab_bhai on | September 19, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    I hope these allegations have no truth. Coming back to playing cricket we need big score from Yusuf. He is due some runs but our opening pair needs to do well to give the other momentum.

    Cricket goes on and we will enjoy every second of it on the field. Good Luck guys...

  • POSTED BY AK47_pk on | September 19, 2010, 15:52 GMT

    FOR THOSE WANTS TO DESTROYE OUR CRICKET......cricket is in our blood nd soul nd nobody will be able to eradicate cricket from pakistan.....we WILL keep producing imran khan wasim akram waqar yunis shoaib akhtar amir nd asif....we will keep knockin you down for 70 runs in future...we will keep breaking ur toes with reverse swing nd heads with 100 mph bouncers....we will keep bringing shahid afridies again nd again to knock ur bowleres out ov boundries...WE ARE PAKISTANIES ND WE ARE BORN FIGHTERS...KEEP THIS UR MINDS.

  • POSTED BY AK47_pk on | September 19, 2010, 15:44 GMT

    now we beleive that its all a concipiracy against pakistan cricket nd amir asif nd butt are innocent.....some countries not cricket boards want to destroy everythin good for pakistan economy nd we all know how sports play a part in any country,s economy....some countries want pakistan to be suspended before world cup so pakistan will not be able to claim its share from the money earned from world cup....THIS IS ALL A PLOY AGAINST PAKISTAN CRICKET AND NOT ONLY CRICKET BOARD BUT GOVERNAMENT OF PAKISTAN NEEDS TO STAND UP AGAINST THESE EVIL PPL.

  • POSTED BY cricket_fan_1980 on | September 19, 2010, 15:33 GMT

    I am completely flabbergasted by the latest allegations made by an institution as depraved and slimy as the Sun, which again has brought a completely unwanted cloud to this tour. I am also extremely disappointed by the ICC to sensationalize whatever rubbish they hear from a sleazy newspaper desperate to make headlines without contacting the PCB. It is absolutely below the belt. They are treating the Pakistan cricket set up as outcasts and labelling them what they wish. This is absolutely uncalled for. If they're sucking up to the English and quickly releasing statements that no English player is involved, then why are they keeping statements about the Pakistani involvement in a cloud? And seriously, how exactly does a batting unit determine a batting pattern without the consent of the opposite bowling attack? Anyone who has played any cricket will know this is virtually impossible. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am so disappointed in the British media AND the ICC. Pathetic!

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  • POSTED BY cricket_fan_1980 on | September 19, 2010, 15:33 GMT

    I am completely flabbergasted by the latest allegations made by an institution as depraved and slimy as the Sun, which again has brought a completely unwanted cloud to this tour. I am also extremely disappointed by the ICC to sensationalize whatever rubbish they hear from a sleazy newspaper desperate to make headlines without contacting the PCB. It is absolutely below the belt. They are treating the Pakistan cricket set up as outcasts and labelling them what they wish. This is absolutely uncalled for. If they're sucking up to the English and quickly releasing statements that no English player is involved, then why are they keeping statements about the Pakistani involvement in a cloud? And seriously, how exactly does a batting unit determine a batting pattern without the consent of the opposite bowling attack? Anyone who has played any cricket will know this is virtually impossible. This is absolutely ridiculous. I am so disappointed in the British media AND the ICC. Pathetic!

  • POSTED BY AK47_pk on | September 19, 2010, 15:44 GMT

    now we beleive that its all a concipiracy against pakistan cricket nd amir asif nd butt are innocent.....some countries not cricket boards want to destroy everythin good for pakistan economy nd we all know how sports play a part in any country,s economy....some countries want pakistan to be suspended before world cup so pakistan will not be able to claim its share from the money earned from world cup....THIS IS ALL A PLOY AGAINST PAKISTAN CRICKET AND NOT ONLY CRICKET BOARD BUT GOVERNAMENT OF PAKISTAN NEEDS TO STAND UP AGAINST THESE EVIL PPL.

  • POSTED BY AK47_pk on | September 19, 2010, 15:52 GMT

    FOR THOSE WANTS TO DESTROYE OUR CRICKET......cricket is in our blood nd soul nd nobody will be able to eradicate cricket from pakistan.....we WILL keep producing imran khan wasim akram waqar yunis shoaib akhtar amir nd asif....we will keep knockin you down for 70 runs in future...we will keep breaking ur toes with reverse swing nd heads with 100 mph bouncers....we will keep bringing shahid afridies again nd again to knock ur bowleres out ov boundries...WE ARE PAKISTANIES ND WE ARE BORN FIGHTERS...KEEP THIS UR MINDS.

  • POSTED BY samab_bhai on | September 19, 2010, 16:10 GMT

    I hope these allegations have no truth. Coming back to playing cricket we need big score from Yusuf. He is due some runs but our opening pair needs to do well to give the other momentum.

    Cricket goes on and we will enjoy every second of it on the field. Good Luck guys...

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:17 GMT

    Why dont they investigate the surprise england collapse against such a weak Pakistani side?

    I mean 200 for 5 with the umpire clearly on your side and then all out for 217? doesnt make sense.

    Also why didnt england take the power play when they had set batsmen in and just 40 runs to win?

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:19 GMT

    I am very much convinced that 3rd ODI was fixed but ICC is investigating the wrong team. Eng were in match wining position, and all of a sudden their last 5 wickets folded. Morgan threw his wicket away, luke wright was batting well but made no effort to score the remaining runs and was content on remaining notout. allrounders which were scoring test 150+ all of sudden played like the worst no 11 . ICC must start investigating against 33-4 english players and suspend them immeadeatly.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:35 GMT

    The pressure is being deliberately mounted onto the PCB and Pakistan Cricket team just 5months before the start of the world cup. These british tabloid newspapers are totally unprofessional, not credible at all, and to come into the public fore are rounding up baseless and false allegations to malign and defame Pakistani Cricket.

    That's right that our team has been on a losing streak for quite some time now, due to internal problems in the team and PCB itself. This is a perfect scenario for the Anti-Pakistan Forces to join hands and alienate Pakistan Cricket for good by unlawfully tainting the image our sportsmen and the entire set-up.

    To date no concrete evidence or sufficient proof has been found to convict our players.It's all a set-up. These people who're after Pakistan Cricket from left, right and center will not rest until we are labelled cheats.

  • POSTED BY on | September 19, 2010, 16:40 GMT

    People talk about PCB and its Management. How about ICC dull management that they are launching an investigation on the behalf of a newspaper report and event without sharing any information with PCB. We all know who is the chairman of ICC at the moment.My message is if you wanna fight pakistan fight with them on ground but not they cheap way which you have adopted. Current Allegation clearly proves pakistani players are innocent. And the amount of fans turn to watch pakistan at oval and leeds also shows they fan know who is wrong and right.

  • POSTED BY Akhsami on | September 19, 2010, 16:46 GMT

    Simple question folks. If I was the Nieghborhood Police force and I was informed BEFORE a crime that it was about to take place would I not do something about it? At least warn those who might be impacted. All the ICC had to tell the Pakistan team was that they were aware about scoring pattern betting they did'nt need to tell them what number of runs in what overs.

    Shame on you ICC. The less said about the Sun the better.

  • POSTED BY northumbriannomad on | September 19, 2010, 16:53 GMT

    Why are we even bothering to play Pakistan? The world of cricket bends over backwards to try and give them a game, and by way of thanks, they cheat and then, same as they've done every single time, they blame everybody else for being biased against them. Now Ijaz Butt has decided that the entire world is in a conspiracy against Pakistan. The whole season has been an utterly miserable experience and I can't wait for them to go home. Yay - three days and two stupid waste-of-time matches to go. We're always hearing how there's too much cricket being played. Here's the solution. Stop playing Pakistan. That streamlines the schedule quite nicely.