England v SA, 2nd Investec Test, Headingley, 5th day

Pietersen threatens England exit

George Dobell at Headingley

August 6, 2012

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Kevin Pietersen made 12 from eight balls, England v South Africa, 2nd Investec Test, Headingley, 5th day, August 6, 2012
Kevin Pietersen: "I can't give any assurances that the next Test won't be my last. I'd like to carry on but there are obstacles that need to be worked out" © AFP
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Kevin Pietersen could have played his last game for England after conceding that there were deep, perhaps irrepairable, divisions with the ECB and some other members of the England dressing room.

Pietersen, who has been unsettled for some time by the demands of the England schedule, refused to confirm that the final Test of the series against South Africa at Lord's would not be his last and expressed his anger that private conversations between him and officials at the ECB had been leaked to the media.

His comments are sure to be poorly received by those at Lord's and by his England colleagues. With a vital Test looming it is far from impossible that Pietersen could be disciplined or even dropped in an attempt to retain a semblance of team spirit within the England camp.

"I can't give any assurances that the next Test won't be my last," Pietersen said. "I'd like to carry on but there are obstacles that need to be worked out. There are other points I'm trying to sort out in the dressing room.

"It would be a huge shame. I love playing Test cricket for England, but we'll see. For me, the saddest part about all this is that the spectators just love watching me play and I love playing for England."

Pietersen confirmed that some of his issues concerned a desire to play more IPL cricket, a wish to spend more time with his family and his enthusiasm to be included in England's World T20 squad. But he also insisted that there were "a lot of other issues that are more important that are being sorted".

"It's absolutely 100% not about money," he said. "This is not a money issue. The politics is what I have to deal with personally. It's tough being me playing for England.

"There's always speculation. There's speculation every single day. You guys speculate about my life all day every day. I'm going to make some decisions that will make me very happy."

Pietersen's current cause for concern is the leaking of information he regarded as private. Admitting that it revived memories of his sacking as England captain at the end of 2008, when Pietersen believes that his private concerns about the then England coach, Peter Moores, were also leaked to the media, he seemed to suggest that public opinion was being manipulated against him.

"It was blamed on me that before this Test series I was grabbing the headlines," he said. "Did I leak anything to the media about the meetings I was having with the ECB? I never spoke to the media for one single second and it was me grabbing the headlines and journalists talking about me grabbing the headlines. I never spoke a single word to a single journalist about anything that happened behind closed doors that I thought were closed doors. So you guys are always going to speculate and make me out to be the bad guy. No problem."

The catalyst for the latest controversy in a career that has seen more than most - including his dismissal as England captain and his departures from Nottinghamshire and Hampshire - is the prospect of a new round of annual central contracts in September. Pietersen, who effectively retired from international limited-overs cricket in May after expressing a reluctance to make himself available for all ODIs, has also requested that he is allowed to miss the Test series in New Zealand in March in order to play a whole season of IPL.

While he insisted that, in a perfect world, he would like to continue to play for England in all forms of game, his desire to pick and choose his series is most unlikely to be tolerated by the ECB. The ECB, citing the importance of treating all players equally and the dangers of setting a precedent, demands that players are available for all matches if they are to be considered for any.

Andrew Strauss, the England captain, was reluctant to be drawn on Pietersen's words. He did, however, underline the fact that the needs of the team would remain more important than the needs of the individual and that it was vital England were not distracted ahead of a Test that will confirm which is the No. 1 ranked Test side.

"One thing I will say, and it is important to stress this, is that the Team unity that we have had over the last three years has been outstanding," Strauss said. "It is something we all pride ourselves on, always have done and will continue to do so going forward.

"I hope the Kevin issue isn't going to be a distraction. The truth is we want as few distractions as possible in making sure we win this third Test match. I'm not here to talk about Kevin Pietersen. It is not something I want to talk about at this stage."

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Posted by JG2704 on (August 9, 2012, 21:40 GMT)

I could see one solution. ECB could start scheduling series so they don't clash with IPL. I don't think they'll do it as it's only KP who wants to play IPL at the expense of England but it's a thought for the future.I'd love to see KP remain an England player but this is the only solution I see which would not put other players noses out of joint

Posted by JG2704 on (August 9, 2012, 21:34 GMT)

@zenboomerang on (August 09 2012, 09:00 AM GMT) Mate , do you see KP being an England player after this series in any format? I'm actually thinking that KP won't quit England because I think that ECB just won't offer him a new test contract.

Posted by AKS286 on (August 9, 2012, 16:59 GMT)

go KP go now you don't have career in ENG. you retire from ODI & T20 and you don't care about test cricket & IPL is the future of cricket as you said earlier.your desire & passion towards IPL go with your passion. migrate to INDIA and say rubbish about ENG as you said earlier about SA when you migrate to eng. ODI- sehwag, gambhir, kohli, KP, raina, yuvi, MS dhoni, pathan, ashwin, yadav, zaheer. Test- sehwag, gambhir, KP, tendulkar, laxman, kohli/raina, dhoni, irfan, ojha, zaheer, yadav.

Posted by torsha on (August 9, 2012, 16:54 GMT)

I kinda agree with KP. IPL as he said is one of many points but I think schedule is what he is concerned about.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 9, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

@S.Jagernath : Certainly KP is one of greatest to have played for England.. If the guys like Atherton or Hussain are consider themselves as greats and comment rubbish, then why not KP.. I would say as a match winner, KP is on par with any one who played for England.. Better than Freddie himself.. Yes KP is lucky to play for England but so is England to get KP playing for them.. @Patchmaster : KP does want to earn mroe money for the period he misses to spend with the family :-) Who said Legends don't go for money.. They go saying as rebel - Like Kapil or a Tony Greig..

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

I am looking forward to KP Version 3. Playing for NZ, with the black cap and the Fern tattoo. My only worry is, how he will deal with Buchanan. If John Buchanan's personality can drive out a perfect gentleman like John Write, he (JB) deserves a player like KP to deal with. Eagerly waiting to see that drama unfurling. The fact that no one from NZ attacked me for trying to peddle KP to them, shows how good they are. I love them for their gentle-manliness -- except can't fathom why they (may be only a few administration) went for a guy like Buchanan. Those who love Buchanan can also love KP

Posted by Charlie101 on (August 9, 2012, 11:00 GMT)

It looks like KP will miss the world T20 finals this year's tournament and the next , whatever happens to his English test future . I am sure this is what his latest outburst is about - all sport stars want and need to play in the world cups. The problem is that he has picked the wrong time and place for the fight - he needed a number of senior players to also want time to play in the IPL and also make a fuss . I guess the current English players are happy with their central contract payment and know they can always play the IPL later in life.

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 10:41 GMT)

What a shame no cricket for KP and England. Who loses more. I dare say England. And why? Because he wants to complete an IPL season. And who wouldn't. I most likely be raining in England anyway and the top NZ players will not be taking part as they will be at the IPL. GET REAL

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 10:39 GMT)

@"Zorrofortomorro Mask" ; Mask, rip of your mask; are you an agent of this guy? Indian team have enough Prima Donnas already, who pick and choose series to suit their royal convenience. We don't want any more, particularly imports, like England do to tier chagrin. We don't want any "zorro for tomorro". And the "mask" to cover that "zorro"

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

What a shame. No KP because he wants to coplete the whole if the IPL. And who can blame him. Other want also to play. All the NZ star players will miss the start of the series. And it will more than likely RAIN

Posted by peeeeet on (August 9, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

I find it funny - his issues that need to be addressed that are listed in this article are three things that all can't happen together. He says he wants time with his family, yet wants to go away and play IPL and world T20. He says he wants to play IPL, but that means he could miss T20 matches for England during that time. And then not only these issues, but "a lot of other issues". Seems like he's just a sook and I'm glad the ECB haven't budged and hope they continue like that.

Posted by zenboomerang on (August 9, 2012, 9:00 GMT)

@George Dobell... Where has Pietersen threatened to quite the team?... All he has said is that he has issues, which is something he has been saying for years... Though the way the media have handled this, I see few options in the immediate future & his loss will also be a loss to all media companies... Bit like shooting yourself in the foot...

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

Peiterson is not that big to keep him in the team under any cost. Englisg players like Peter May, Colin Cowdrey all were gentlemen.

Posted by Charlie101 on (August 9, 2012, 8:32 GMT)

Whilst it is not about money according to KP , if he does walk away from the ECB set up he will lose his central contract which is approx £1,000,000 with sponsership deals etc . It is really the IPL which is paying the big bucks so there will be a considerable short fall in money as the Big bash etc will not pay like his ECB contract . Gayle has come back to the fold because he understands that his IPL value depends on not only his IPL peformance but his prestige and being seen Internationally playing for WI - KP is a clever guy and he also reealises this. I am sure an agreement will be reached because KP has as much to lose as England.

Posted by PrasPunter on (August 9, 2012, 6:47 GMT)

As long as the game wasn't commercialised the way it is now, it has been fine - we had the best of the lot playing out for the real honors ( test cricket ) - enter india with its bollywood stars and a handful of corporates - the game has taken a turn for worse - ipl ( doesnt deserve a capitalized mention ) for sure is gonna destroy the game - hope this extincts quickly - unfortunately it wouldnt happen though.

Posted by Patchmaster on (August 9, 2012, 6:25 GMT)

Why does he keep using the excuse of more time with his family - then next minute he's playing IPL in between seasons, his manager is talking to the Bangladesh version of the IPL, he's jetting of for a weekend in SA inbetween matches etc. If it was me and I wanted to have more time with my family, I would quit T20, just play Test Cricket and go down in history as a legend, rather than a whinger. He is a legend, but legends don't money grab and hold people to ransom.

Posted by S.Jagernath on (August 9, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

Kevin Pietersen is lucky enough to get to play international cricket for England,considering he is South African.Now he has decided he wants the entire cricket world to suit him.That will not happen & the ECB will drop him if this continues.Pietersen needs to realise that he isn't England's greatest batsmen nor even their best right now.The ECB must not let a player dictate to them!

Posted by AyeSayer on (August 9, 2012, 4:23 GMT)

Seems like a team united against KP.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 9, 2012, 3:43 GMT)

All i doubt is, can't England play a single series against NZ who are not upto the standards of England as of now without KP? Just rest him for one series.. IF others follow the trend, just give a warning and scrap KP's allowance.. As simple as that.. If England are ready to grant KP and rest from WI series, they should have stopped it and given him rest in NZ series..

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 9, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

@SaracensBob : Criticizing for big six for 100 is just a joke.. Those kinds of risk shots are the ones which fetched him almost 4000 of 7000 runs.. Those kinds of hard stroke play only made games more electric with his presence.. KP - Apart from one game against Australia in WC 2007 where the team let him down and he safely preferred to go towrds century have always played his natural game and his natural game had won much games than any other batter in that team..

Posted by SaracensBob on (August 9, 2012, 2:12 GMT)

Oh dear! KP! What are England to do with the gift that you have been? A fantastic, mercurial talent - 7000-plus test runs; that blistering, game-changing knock against RSA a couple of days back. Taking the fight to the Aussies at Lords in 2005 and then seeing it through at the Oval. But then all the times yuu've let us down with your 'show-boating'', when we needed the "daddy hundred" and you got yourself out going for the big six to get to your ton. Guess you just find it hard to do 'team' ! Daft thing is that with a little more nous, self-control and team-spirit you would now have 8000-plus test runs and several more centuries under your belt. You could have been a true great. As it is, it's been great having you with us but if you finish now you will always be a 'could of been'. Hutton, Compton and Hammond stand way above you.

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 0:37 GMT)

IPL IPL Baby!!! Awesome... KP is absolutely right...ECB frustrated him by pulling him out of IPL....INDIAN CITIZENSHIP !!!

Posted by   on (August 9, 2012, 0:29 GMT)

Peterson clearly loves IPL, the crowds really love watching him play, he was really frustrated ECB they pulled him out of IPL 2012....Maybe we should give him Indian citizenship so he can play for India games. That would be awesome!!

Posted by Britosouthafribabwean on (August 8, 2012, 23:45 GMT)

@ashes 61 - Pietersen is indespensible to the England team not only because he is the best player but also because of the many supporters incl south africans that watch and support england games to see their man. Now he may be an arse at times but so what, work it out. If its not him it will be someone else. The thing is the english cricket team and the ecb are just so.......english. Get out of your poncy castles and doubtless finesse and get a bit neanderthal you will understand him like him and what's more you you wont end up outside the top 5 . Win Win

Posted by gdalvi on (August 8, 2012, 23:11 GMT)

@ RodStark - an excellent idea - really. A more formal and quantitative approach to what India and even SL is doing with its top players. Also similar to what many western countries have in terms of eligibility for retirement/pensions etc - pay your dues and then you have more flexibility. Also similar to what everyone over here expects once they worked for certain time at a company. Just that no one wants to let cricketers enjoy similar benefits since it is an "honor to play for country" or "they are paid a lot" or "team unity" and other hog-washes. Cricket may be a played in teams - but in really is much more of individualistic than other team sports like football - where individual performances actually matter a whole lot more. So special treatment for "game changing" stars is warranted

Posted by Optimistix on (August 8, 2012, 21:47 GMT)

Bobmartin - I'm not "defending" KP, and the plain truth clearly must also be that Strauss gets out under 50 more often than KP, which is why you don't mention him. Trott probably has the best numbers in the English team, but does that make him a "superman"? No, there are no supermen in the English team, KP included.

However, KP is a "game changer" of the sort that few batsmen are, and certainly none of the others in the current English team are anywhere close in that respect. Cook and Trott are better at batting time, etc., - but if Eng lose KP, they shall certainly lose a very special player.

Posted by ashes61 on (August 8, 2012, 21:13 GMT)

Talented? Of course! Attractive & exciting? Certainly (sometimes). Box office? Yep. But unique? By no means. Indispensable? Not by a long chalk. Would ENG miss him? Possibly - some times. Would that matter? Of course not. Would the others play better? Almost certainly. Negotiate, our Indian friends tell us - do a deal with him. Negotiate? NEGOTIATE??? Have you not seen what has happened when other prima donnas start dictating? It is a very slippery slope. It surprises me that our Indian friends seem to have forgotten Kipling's famous lines: "Once you have paid him the Dane-geld, you never get rid of the Dane." Yes, a good, attractive (occasionally great) batsman - but give me a Collingwood, a Prior, a Gilchrist, a Hussey, a Boucher, a Rhodes or a Dravid any day of the week. Team first, me last. Lance the boil now, ECB. Cut him loose to enjoy his Big Bash/IPL circus & the cash that goes with it. KZN, RSA, Notts, Hants & the ECB can't all be wrong! Cricket is a TEAM game!

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

@Meety on (August 08 2012, 09:41 AM GMT) Yes , I said that might be the solution and also if he misses that NZ series and someone else comes in and does well then that person keeps his place. I know folk will say they're still giving KP preferential treatment but I'd say that the contracts are pretty good and ECB could offer everyone either a contract or a pay as you play deal and be quite confident most if not all would take the latter. If KP doesn't buy that solution then there's no more that can be done. Having said that I can't see England doing that

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

@Scott Robbins on (August 08 2012, 16:36 PM GMT) Interesting post there. Not sure if KP still has a chip re captaincy/Moores. I don't know what it was all about and I'm sure you'd get different takes from either side. However , it seems that ECB thought it was unworkable and by relieving both men of their posts weren't showing any favouritism either way. I think the Knight fine doesn't sit well with him - as it wouldn't with me. I'm sure (as you intimate) England's contracts weren't so financially rewarding he'd be on his way right now. IPL is great for him as he gets paid heavily and the Indian fans seem to go crazy for anyone who can regularly hit a long ball

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

@Lovedegame on (August 08 2012, 16:37 PM GMT) Most of us don't want him thrown out but find it hard to see a solution. If you read many of our comms properly you should be able to understand why we feel this way. It's about honour and commitment.

Posted by mkazmi on (August 8, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

A South African playing for England - not surprising his loyalties are with money rich IPL, not the England team. Dont know why most people did not see this coming.

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 8, 2012, 19:12 GMT)

This is the future. ENG can't digest the fact that IPL has gone to another level. They r the inventor of the game but India is the power house of the cricket

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

I don't think England deserves KP. The only reason why they are still only 1-0 down against the Proteas is because of KP. Good luck Eng w/o KP. RandyOz and rest of the Aussies are absolutely enjoying themselves. Dropping KP works in Aussie favor of reclaiming the Ashes. Reality will set in pretty quick when Strauss, Trott and Bell tries to play again in the subcontinent. Last time Ian Bell scored an away Century was 3rd Jan 2011 in Sydney. Since then his highest away score is 52. http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/player/9062.html?class=1;home_or_away=2;home_or_away=3;orderby=start;orderbyad=reverse;template=results;type=allround;view=innings

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (August 8, 2012, 18:29 GMT)

As with so many of his pronouncements, Beefy has hit the nail on the head when he says:Get it sorted out NOW. Perhaps he should go for a night out with Beefy and Lamby!!

Posted by ooper_cut on (August 8, 2012, 18:25 GMT)

The problem with England and ECB is that they want every English player to be the typical 'Mouth Shut' player. KP is an import, they have to live with that or get rid of that, getting rid of him seems the way to go. Let the bells ring and the cooks cook their own straws and become Broad very soon.

Posted by girdoc1 on (August 8, 2012, 18:23 GMT)

Shame, England is losing KP. Wish the ECB reconciles with him and again a great team will be formed. Anyway you are are a great player KP and you are always welcome in IPL.

Posted by MarkfromEdinburgh on (August 8, 2012, 18:17 GMT)

No player is EVER greater than the England team, however good. The importance of a good team spirit is paramount. If Peitersen is a threat to this team spirit, I'm sure Flower will be strong enough to leave him out immediately.

Posted by RodStark on (August 8, 2012, 17:40 GMT)

Here's an idea that might resolve the situation.

Lots of people seem to feel that it would be kind of ok to make a special deal for KP, but then you'd have to do it for everyone else too. Why not instead have a contract set up that basically says that once you've "paid your dues", you get a lot more flexibility in setting your own schedule. This could be judged buy the simple criterion of how many days you've played for England (score 5 for a test amd 1 each for an ODI or T20--I know this is not exact, but you get the idea). Looking at the current team, 600 might be a good cut-off point. By my calculations, this would only give KP (603) and Strauss (626) this status, though Anderson (538) and Bell (516) are approaching it. Those who are concerned about Broad (373) and Swann (327) would have nothing to worry about for now.

A bizarre idea, but there's some logic to it, I think.

Posted by jb633 on (August 8, 2012, 17:30 GMT)

@vertical- ah right I apologise I see your point though. I agree about the revenue situation at the present moment. My point is though is how are we going to sustain crowds if the sport is not being propped up by a govt and devalued by the IPL. The situation with KP is very difficult. I will not hide the fact that I really dislike the bloke. IMO he found his calling in the IPL. He had a horror tour of the UAE and found the IPL an easy means of making quick money. Test match cricket is a far more difficult nut to crack and when things go wrong KP sometimes doesn't want to know. However, the ECB needs KP as he is a crowd puller. Just like with Gayle in the WI, people will pay their money to come and watch him. He can appeal to the younger audiences and brings a certain level of attraction to the game. Without him in the side the batting line up is mundane but not attractive. I worry about our future game if we lose stars to the IPL, and our crowd levels.

Posted by Lovedegame on (August 8, 2012, 16:37 GMT)

all the English fans out there i cant believe how blind sighted you, do you actualyl want KP thrown out???? You really think just cause you reached the no ! spot you can do without anybody, i suggest you weigh your champs and he is one of the best if you let him go you will suffer. I am an Indian fan and i would be more then pleased if you let him go, not only will he not be in the tests coming to India where we already have a chance of repaying your 4-0 drubbing that you gave us but ill get to watch him in the fulll IPL. WoWW double bonanza. So yes please drop him i cant wait for you guys to come here is just wish we had 5 ODI as well so then we could have been even

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 16:36 GMT)

KP is going on a very simular route to what Chris Gayle did back in 2010. The difference is that the contractual-deal in the Windies is nowhere near what England's would be in comparision, but being at odds with the Board has a all too familiar ring to it. Unless i'm mistaken KP wants the best of both worlds and unless the ECB complies with his schedule-demands, he will turn his back on International Cricket. Can't help thinking that this goes back to when he was Captain and the debacle with Peter Moores, was always a bitter pill to swallow when the Captaincy was taken away from him. Now all these other issues have come to the surface, has only strained his relationship with the ECB even more. Unless a mutual agreement can be made, he will be a player-for-hire in the Big Money tournaments around the world. A big loss for England, but life goes on.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 16:36 GMT)

I expect the ECB to make the 'pick and choose' issue central to make KP the fall guy. They are trying to present a Hobson's choice without going to the root cause which has a solution that they are aware of but do not want to try out. The root cause is overload of work. True KP cannot complain about it because of his desire to play in IPL. But that does not negate the fact that there is too much cricket. But KP is right. It is not about money - at least for him. The huge fan base that he has in India is something that he is bound to enjoy. The British media paints him as a bloated ego. As if other players in the team or anywhere else are hermits. Another red herring to duck the issue. Solution? Decide on a schedule of fixtures as many as you want. But let players each one of them be allowed to play a reasonable number. Some prestigious series (like Ashes) cannot be opted out but from the rest they need to play only some minimum. Like tennis. With some changes for a team game.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (August 8, 2012, 15:41 GMT)

You can totally see from the poll on Cricinfo's homepage, and all the comments on these articles, that the world is COMPLETELY divided about KP. We'll soon need to Ask Steven: has any other player attracted so much attention in such a short space of time?

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 15:33 GMT)

As a follower and lover of English cricket for decades, I am delighted to read posts from a few Englishmen pleading for giving chances to and developing English players, into good international players.

Posted by SuperKing.Cobra on (August 8, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

Brilliant for IPL!!! I missed KP in few matches in IPL. I hope we have good contest between Gayle and KP in next season. KP has earned his respect on field. I hope he enjoys the IPL, earn bit of money and have a happy retirement. I don't want to see great players like KP spending his retirement in commentory boxes like other players do.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

raj_24 - It's interesting, how people start on Sachin Tendulkar while commenting on absolutely any article.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 14:59 GMT)

Yes cricket is a team sport, but the team is made up of individuals, all with their own foibles and difficulties. So Kevin Pietersen is high maintenance? Just add him to a list that goes back as far as W.G. Grace. What England have to decide is whether theirs is a better side without him in it. Here's a clue - it isn't. Those who have suggested on here that he be paid Test by Test or even 20-20 by 20-20 have it right. And then, when he stops producing, drop him. That way you can be assured he will be doing his best every time he plays. And when he plays at his best he is the best sight in cricket

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

It's the players who make the game and enlighten fans, not the administrators. If ECB is going to make the schedule unbelievably hectic, just because they're jealous of IPL, it's not KP's fault. Don't we have flex schedule at work? Aren't we allowed in work negotiations, when we work and when we don't? KP might be outspoken, and a bit of egoist, but then he plays fantastic cricket as well. Cricketers are professionals with limited earning years. If you, and I could get a job that pays 10 times we make now, and still carry on most of our commitments, would we not do it? Be honest. I think KP is a leader that dares to stand alone. Rest is a heard of sheep, that in stead of backing their team-mate are siding with the support staff. ECB is an absolute non-sense and a shame to game of cricket.

Posted by mahjut on (August 8, 2012, 14:08 GMT)

in the end: ECB are #1 in world rankings while KP is lingering at #10 - i am pretty sure we can guess who wins this battle, and it looks a decisive battle in the war!!!

Posted by zuber21886 on (August 8, 2012, 14:07 GMT)

he should just quit england, play counties and IPL's for 5 years and join SA national team.

Posted by raj_24 on (August 8, 2012, 13:59 GMT)

@Red and white army

Who has not whitewashed Aus recently?

AUS Whitewashed India 4-0 in Tests Aus won 1-0 in SL 1-1 in SA won 2-0 in WI

Odi's Aus beat Eng 6-1 in 2011 in aus and 6-1 in eng in 2009, i think u have convenient memory. check ur facts before posting

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 13:55 GMT)

No one is bigger than the game.KP can not pick and choose when and where he plays.Its all about money despite what he says.With KP its all me me me. I should immagine the rest of the team are fed up with him as well.We are going to have to lean to do without him-we have a lot of good young players waiting in the wings.

Posted by noplay on (August 8, 2012, 13:51 GMT)

It is now pointless telling PROFESSIONAL sportsmen with multiple skills that they are obligated to their country and they must close their eyes to developments in the sport. You may tell it to Andrew Strauss whose game is predictable and whose options are limited but KP's input can come from anywhere or everywhere. England must thank him that they still have a chance to hold on to the number one position. It is instrucitive that because of KP Strauss can focus on winning the next game, so he does not want KP to distract him lol

Posted by jpeacock158 on (August 8, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

KP is an amazing player, who can trun a game on his head but if he wants to try and decide which tours he wants to play in over others, then it just shows his poor loyalty to England. He will also continue to disrupt the team's morale by acting like this. I agree there should be a window for the IPL, (its not going to go away) but there are plenty of players waiting in the wings who would sacrifice the possibility of playing IPL for the chance to play for England. There's no point in trying to lead a man who doesn't wish to be led. Carberry or Ravi would be probably replaceme him, or the selectors may look to the future and consider players like Joe Root, Ben Stokes or Rory Hamilton-Brown although that would open up inexperience in the batting order if Taylor is to stay at 6.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

i hope this is not the end for KP's intl. career. although v l see him in IPL , i would love to see him play tests. KP is a different animal in tests. if not England, i wouldn't mind him playing for RSA, theoretically he could play for RSA, rite?

Posted by madras_boy on (August 8, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

Looks like a South African middle order place is at stake now !!! Not sure how long he has to wait before playing for another country as per ICC rules...

Posted by raj_24 on (August 8, 2012, 12:27 GMT)

Sachin has held Bcci to ransom , picking n choosing his games , prefers ipl over india duties(twice now in 2 yrs)

In fact he is one to start this trend, which now KP also wants.

KP has always been a selfish player , true he is very exciting and all of cricket lovers including me enjoyed him hitting steyn over the bowlers head for 4 and 6.

But end of the day it is team that matters and not one's ego.

In fact Sachin is not really wanted by his indian team mates in odi cricket, without him india has won and with him india lost many times in last 12 months. It is high time Sachin is thrown out of team both in tests and odis So should KP if he does not value his england cap and contract.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

kp is d man who took england to such a position in world cricket...but now ecb is playing a bad game with this great cricketer...so sorry of that.......

Posted by mahjut on (August 8, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

@meety, i have no bigger opinion on KP than Sarwan or Dipenaar ... but i love chatting to other punters about their opinions and this is clearly this is an opinion topic - not necessarily about KP exactly but about how one apple influences others in a basket - and of course the timeless debate about what makes us happy in our job....the paypacket, the peer appraisal, personal achievement, freedom? people care ... but don't interpret too deeply that that care is directed at KP exactly

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (August 8, 2012, 11:20 GMT)

458 comments on an article regarding England 20 comments on the aussy camping trip article, haha

Kev your a great player, but if your causing problems for the team then get out! You left the ODI side and they responded by whitewashing the aussys, but then again who hasnt whitewashed the aussys recently?

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

People like me watching play... This one sentence represented the transformation of game from a nation based sports to an entertainment business.... I feel the ECB is trying to protect some sort of grace in the game by making nation a priority....Otherwise soon a cricket match will be an equivalent of bollywood movie...

Posted by SladeR on (August 8, 2012, 11:07 GMT)

Goodbye Mr. Pietersen, let me help you pick up all your toys, gosh you seem to throw them an awful lot.

Posted by bobmartin on (August 8, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

@ hst84... What nonsense you do write... There is no way Pietersen would ever captain England again. After the fiasco when he last did it and given the current circumstances.. who could trust him. Certainly not the management nor the team.. Anyway, Cook is heir apparent to that job..

Posted by hst84 on (August 8, 2012, 10:18 GMT)

Strauss doesn't want to talk about Pieterson as he's a contender for the captaincy of the English team and Strauss get to feel the itch that he shouldn't be in the side..a player producing 7000+ runs in about 75 test matches, its definitely not an easy task and he being treated like that is a shame to the ECB and the management !

Posted by dabhand on (August 8, 2012, 10:14 GMT)

It's time he went before he destroys his own legacy and the English test team.

It always appears to be everyone else who is at fault - at least according to KP - it's a job, if you don't like the one you are in, put in your resignation, if it's accepted, get another somewhere else - that's the way it works.

Petulance, threats, tears and all the rest don't count - he hasn't been missed in the 1 dayers, the test team will be a better unit without him, finding a KP specific solution would be opening the biggest can of worms.

KP should bear in mind the vast majority of those who go to watch cricket are ordinary people who earn nothing like in a year what he does in a day - spitting his dummy out because he can't go off and earn even more millions is not an endearing attitude.

Posted by Ayush_Chauhan on (August 8, 2012, 9:58 GMT)

First off,I have watched cricket for about 15 years now, and KP is a treat to watch. I understand both ECB's and KP's stance on this. But I think ECB can be a little too rigid, especially when it comes to KP. He shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose his series, but he should be allowed to pick and choose his format. At a very layman's level, I would even think ECB don't like KP cause he is likes IPL, but if England do go on to loose KP, they are the poorer for it, make no doubt about it.

Posted by SamonandTrout on (August 8, 2012, 9:53 GMT)

I am a saffa fan, and have often aimed invective at KP from the comfort and safety of my lounge as he thrashed my sa around the park...no patriotism, arrogance etc...but it make me laugh to see ppl crit him for going for the money, I wonder how many ppl that have commented would turn down $2 mill a pop for a few weeks work? Stop being such hypocrites. the problem here is the ICC not making a window for the IPL and for having a nonsensical tours program that is, lest we forget, designed for them to coin it.

Posted by Meety on (August 8, 2012, 9:41 GMT)

447 comments & counting, ah KP love him or hate him, EVERYBODY has an opinion on him. @JG2704 - I said on another article (somewhere?), that ECB should continue to select him & allow him his wish to miss the NZ tour, but not offer him any contract. A simple pay for play like other NON-contracted players. This would then mean that he either plays for love (& a tidy match payment) or NOT & chases the coin elsewhere.

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (August 8, 2012, 9:28 GMT)

Not surprising this situation. Obviously KP does not have the national pride in him as he knows he is not strictly "English". Whenever he talks it always starts with "I want X and I want Y and Z etc.". Think of Rahul Dravid or Ricky Ponting here for 1 second and you get the context. At the same time, the ECB has been too rigid and the reason is fairly straightforward: hatred towards the IPL. As much as I despise IPL, I would rather have ECB keep the calendar free during that period than have to deal with this. Anyway, time for ECB to start interviewing fresh Saffers now.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

I believe that England have a brilliant side even excluding KP. Hence, the best option would be to go let him play his goddamn IPL. England can do so much better without him. They have a lot of potential young players e.g Jonny Bairstow, James Taylor etc. Letting KP go would be the wisest solution.

Posted by biggyd on (August 8, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

england without kp = one big fat oval : ) cmon gary, make him an offer!

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 8, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

@Vinay Kolhatkar on (August 08 2012, 07:23 AM GMT) "KP should play for WI and Chris Gayle can play for England." Ha Ha Ha.... You definitely lighted the mood in this intense discussion. :D :D

Posted by applethief on (August 8, 2012, 9:06 GMT)

KP probably just reading the writing on the wall - England are on a massive slide as a test side, and he doesn't want to bear the blame for their collective failure, and obviously he foresees further trouble in the India tour. Simple-minded commentators will read England's slide down the table as being due to KP's departure, and be clamouring for his return for the Ashes, while he has skipped the tough tours to make some cheap T20 cash.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 8, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

@Jack_Tka : Yes buddy.. An window for IPL would be the best thing.. Even if the boards don't want to give window, they can pay the players a bit more as they lose chance to make money.. In all, the IPL doesn't allow players who don't have approval from home boards.. It would be better for individual boards to look for perfect options to minimise such early retirements..

Posted by adeng on (August 8, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

Can cricket players defect? ;D

Posted by adeng on (August 8, 2012, 8:13 GMT)

I'm afraid I've always found KP very arrogant. I've also found Graeme Smith quite arrogant, with the main difference that Graeme's loyalty to SA cricket could never be questioned. Perhaps KP has it more difficult by leaving SA to play for England, therefore one cannot help but wonder how English he really is. Look at his twitter page - him playing cricket with Table mountain in the background, lion cubs... I actually feel a bit sorry for him, but it is a team sport and I find his comments very disruptive. I also wonder whether he regrets leaving SA - different hemisphere allows IPL participation more readily and Gary Kirsten is known to look after his players.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 8:08 GMT)

KP believes that he should receive special consideration over his team mates. If he was arguing on behalf of all England players as part of a collective complaint to the ECB, and had constructive suggestions that could be applied across the board, benefitting all players in the England set up, his cause would be far more noble. Alas, typical of the man, KP is KP's only concern. The IPL might make KP richer, but only the international stage can ensure a lasting legacy in the sport and a proven place in the future lists of the greatest players. For a man who already earns so much from the game, it speaks volumes that he is prepared to trade the opportunity of lasting greatness for a few seasons in the IPL. He is undermining the very foundations upon which all of his present and future success depends for a dubious short term gain that he can live without. Sad, but time to let him go. Perhaps he should play for India, if they would have him.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

My proposal is for the ECB to offer KP a pay as you play contract. I know that this could still have huge drawbacks but if KP was offered a contract where he gets paid a sum of money each time he plays then he will still earn each time he plays for England but he is then not tied to play for Eng so is free to play his IPL/Big bashes or maybe even rest his body as and when he likes.For England - they could then pick or not pick him as they choose - they'd have no obligations to pick him so if a player came in and did well then they would stick with him so while KP would have the freedom , he would also have the risk that he could be displaced.The thing that so many on here fail to grasp is that if KP has time off clauses in his contract then if similar opportunities arose for others (eg Swann or Broad) and they wanted the same time off it would become unworkable and if they weren't given time off it would be perceived as favouritism towards KP which then means an unhappy dressing room

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

I will point out to many that while KP IS no doubt a huge player for us - esp in the shorter forms - Eng have gone unbeaten in T20/0DIs since KP initially rocked the boat (which I think is about 8 or 9 games) inc a series against number 1 side Australia. I'm not pretending that we played a decent version of Australia but we beat WI with all their IPL stars back and I'm not pretending WI are a great yardstick but there were a multitude of comments pre series saying WI would give us a thrashing with Gayle and co back and KP out for us. I'm not naive enough to say that there will not be times when we will miss KP incredibly but Eng have succeeded without him at times and by the same token we have also failed when we have had him in our side

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

@satish619chandar - PS re "Money is his priority - so is for you and me" Not all the time with me , but the thing is that he is actually saying it's not about the money. My personal respect for him would go up tenfold if he had just been honest from the start. And as I have said numerous times I feel that if KP bowed to this demand then KP would take liberties - which is perceived by many that he already is.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

@satish619chandar - Hello , I'm not sure he dumped SA as such. He said he chose England because he felt his opportunities were to be limited in the SA set up. And yes we were more than happy to have him and we still are re KP the player. As I have said before , ok ECB gives him time off from NZ series but what if eg Broad , Swann,Finn were to be selected for IPL and they wanted the same series off ? - you can see where I'm going here - ECB would not give all these players time off and it would cause resentment if KP was allowed to earn the bucks in IPL and they weren't.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

@Shan156 on (August 07 2012, 20:11 PM GMT) Going back to the football analogy which some have mentioned about - and I'm not a Man U fan - but can you imagine Ferguson putting up with this from one of his players. When AF has perceived his players to be overstepping the line , out they go and many have questioned him but they've not done so bad over the years

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

@vertical on (August 07 2012, 16:48 PM GMT) I wouldn't worry about it. JB was just responding to an Oz fan. That's the problem is that you respond to one persons post and it all becomes a bit jingoistic

Posted by JG2704 on (August 8, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

@gdalvi on (August 07 2012, 15:07 PM GMT) He can remain a test only player and not play any of the other 2 formats , he doesn't have to play all 3 formats. He can either reconsider his ODI/T20 contract , sign an extension on his current test contract (which would mean him not playing the full IPL) or free himself from all England ties. Whether it is right or wrong to have T20 and ODIs lumped in together is another argument but I think if you gave KP an inch he'd take a mile. As I said before I'm not against him playing as a freelancer for England on a game by game basis where KP plays for Eng on a game by game basis and at the same time risks his place if another player comes in and does well when he is playing one of those monetarily vulgar T20 bashes.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

KP is a star batsman a true match-winner.However no player no matter how big he is can be greater than the team.If he wants to retire because he wants to be entirely available for IPL or he is unhappy with the ECB policies than it's sad because international cricket gave him the fame,reputation and the star status he enjoys currently.If he complains about hectic schedule than he should avoid playing IPL altogether.IPL cannot be over & above national duty.Please don't make the mistake of retiring from international cricket just because of IPL.Remember his value in IPL will only be if he plays well at the international level and not the other way round.If there are policy issues or politics they can be sorted out KP.

Posted by gurussm on (August 8, 2012, 7:36 GMT)

it looks as if england are going to blame kp if they loose the test match

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 7:23 GMT)

KP should play for WI and Chris Gayle can play for England.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 7:04 GMT)

He is really really a dangerous player...

Posted by TheShoot on (August 8, 2012, 6:52 GMT)

"Its tough being ME in this dressingroom...."...seriously! I am a South African and I stand amazed. We will have come, win a series in England, become the no 1 side in the world etc (hopefully)...and all thats going on is the Kevin Peterson show....Who is wrong or right between KP and the ECB ? It should not be relevant now should it.....Andrew Straus is trying to win a test series and that is what should be under the spotlight.....how do you think they feel about their team mate..... Kev however is saying ....how many times do I have to tell you people, I AM NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT !.....but by the way, it might be my last test for England.....and its not me that feed the press....ay "its tough being ME" ... I remeber once Open champion Justin Leonard shot a career best 63 in a PGA event and afterwards in the press conference all he was asked time after time was questions about Tiger Woods. KP's teamates currently looked like Leonard's face looked that day.....it's a team sport K

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 8, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

@satish619chandar on (August 08 2012, 05:33 AM GMT) I agree with this comment of yours that the board should NOT be rude to the players. Thats what I've been saying this all along(read PRACTICALITY). And also I mentioned in my previous comments that I support KP in this. Some adjustability needs to be there in BOARD's decision making. Lastly, whether anybody makes Official Window for IPL or not, but un-officially it needs to be there. Only A happy employee is efficient employee(here: cricketers).

Posted by jezzastyles on (August 8, 2012, 6:35 GMT)

@Gagg: your comment is utterly ridiculous - I'm not a solicitor, but I'm pretty sure that redrafting of said cricket laws would constitute a violation of English law, as well as international law, and land the ECB/ICC (or any other cricket board) in a bucket of trouble. Remember why SA weren't allowed to play for all those years when they had the BEST talent in the world sitting on the sidelines. We live in an international community, and while rivalry on a cricketfield is healthy, let's not get carried away. It is just a game, even if it is the best game in the world.

Posted by ninjalord on (August 8, 2012, 6:34 GMT)

KP acts like a spolled brat. He never stops complaining. Everytime he doesnt get what he wants he threatens to quit. How many times now? Its about time management took a tougher stance to him and showed him he cant stamp his feet and get what he wants everytime. His ego is just too much to stomach at times.

Posted by nzcricket174 on (August 8, 2012, 6:32 GMT)

Fair enough KP won't wanna play NZ when we aren't bringing our "full strength" team.

Posted by AndrewFromOz on (August 8, 2012, 6:29 GMT)

It was never about playing for England. It was about playing international cricket. England was the stepping-stone, not the goal. Cricket mercenaries can shout their slogans and paint on their tattoos. But they are still mercenaries.

Posted by jezzastyles on (August 8, 2012, 6:22 GMT)

@Massive_Allan_Border_Fan: I totally agree, please sack KP before the next Ashes series. @kensohatter: most workplaces around the world, this one really cracks me up?? COMPLETELY irrelevant, most workplaces around the world are filled to the brim with US worker drones, who only wish we had the talent and ability to perform on the big stage, let alone dominate it in the manner of a KP. @Hammond: people forget, Bradman clashed with the ACB over pay issues regularly, even threatened to return to F/T journalism work if something wasn't done, and he eventually got his way. You can't muzzle a character like KP, he'll always back himself and sometimes get out foolishly, but he is the ONLY Pommy batsmen who can dominate any opposition attack on his day. Just let KP be KP. As for any ENG supporter who wants him out, pity he played in the 2nd test, because without his contribution, ENG struggle and in all likelihood lose the match, barring a miracle.

Posted by MeijiMura on (August 8, 2012, 6:21 GMT)

With all this talk of KP having played his last Test Match because of his falling out with the ECB, what is stopping South Africa from picking him to line up for them against England in the 3rd Test Match at Lords?

Posted by Tian31 on (August 8, 2012, 6:07 GMT)

It will be sad if this issue between him and the ECB is not going to be resolved. England are going to India later in the year for a test series. He is the only one of their specialist test batsmen that has played a lot in India against their spinners on their pitches with his stints in the IPL. If he is not in that team for the series they are going to be murdered by India who might even play as much as 3 spinners after seeing how they were flawed by Pakistan's spinners. Let's hope some sort of compromise can be reached before then because as stated many times in the past, he is their best batsmen.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

It's pity if the controversy between Kevin and ECB is not sorted out quickly, cricket lovers will miss a great player in the current era.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

And there you have it, I knew it all along when T20 was introduced, I said this is going to be nothing but trouble, look at what that money making format has done to the game, IPL should be scrapped it has ruined the purity of test cricket, IPL is nothing but a money making scam and I'm not talking about the players, they are earning peanuts compared to the organisers. And now you ahve players not wish to play for there country, Disgusting

Posted by bobmartin on (August 8, 2012, 5:48 GMT)

Stop all this fawning just because KP happens to be better at his job that a lot of others... That DOES NOT make him special. I'll bet there are thousands of you who are far better at their job than KP would be,,,,but he won't call you special. Moreover he gets paid and treated better than most people simply for doing his job. One of my friends is a consultant surgeon who's job is saving people's lives for far less money than KP gets for whacking a cricket ball around the park. Does he think he is special.. No.. but I'll bet those whose lives he's saved do. Grow up folks.. KP is a pampered spoiled sportsman who thinks the world revolves around him...Well it doesn't... and the England team will survive without him and probably better off in the long run..

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 8, 2012, 5:40 GMT)

@JG2704 : The story is a bit complicated now. KP does want to make his talent fetch him more chances to play(in turn money) when he dumped SA and came to England.. England were more than happy then to have him.. Now he wanted a two month break - at the max, one month of playing time.. But the whole of England is not liking that.. He is not a servant but a hired master.. England only hired him.. Money is his priority - so is for you and me.. If he skips Ashes and plays IPL, you can ask him any question and no one will be his side.. NZ series should not be a big issue at all.. For the board, they should have understood the toughness of the series and decided it.. If they need to hold a player for a game, they need to be clear about it to the player..

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 8, 2012, 5:33 GMT)

@Jack_Tka : Yes mate. IPL will be in mind of players for sure. But it is the responsibility of board to look after the players and maintain them in their control rather than being so rude.. Even the Aussies played in WI and then came back to IPL but the WI players were in IPL.. The boards need to be good to the players too.. And make them comfortable.. @chathuradil : If you see the last test series between India and SL, Malinga was not fully fit in the only test he played and not at his usual best.. He was no more match fit for tests and wouldn't have lasted the full game..

Posted by shantiratnamaj on (August 8, 2012, 5:30 GMT)

KP wanted to play the SA test series anyway and he wanted to play T20 World Cup also so my question is why did he retire? either he could have retired from ODI after the end of T20 WC or just continued as it is and played all formats as he wants to do now. I still think he has the option to retire from Test cricket and return to ODI criket so that he can play T20 and ODI always for ENG and have more time for himself too, but the problem is ENG play more TEST cricket than ODI cricket - so you can't have the best of all world: u want more time for yourself and you want to play T20 then you retire from TEST.

Posted by vxttemp on (August 8, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

If we move on when we find a better job then KP also has every right to take a decision. I don't understand why people make sport a patriotic thing. It is just a sport. Definitely to me that is not a war. So why all this fuss. There are so many cricketers who are poor. Is any board worried about them? I don't think so. Boards always think about their finances which is okay but that should apply for KP even if his intention is to earn more money. Is there any board which gives finance dept the last preference?

Posted by vxttemp on (August 8, 2012, 5:16 GMT)

How many times Botham visited India? Never. I don't know how many complained about that. KP deserves some respect. To me he is the best England's batsman for so long. I can't understand why ECB is against in this case. It sounds pure egoistic from ECB point of view also. Anyway they arrange meaningless tours during IPL(they are meaningless only because which other country is avoiding their players and Is every team sending their best to play England during IPL time)

Posted by buddhikapm on (August 8, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

Again its the IPL the major cause..Lots of issues to come..how many players retired only to play in IPL..Its so sad whts happening to International cricket..Its money..the money they cant tell directly so that lots of other stories..IPL and all other PL's are disasters... Protect the quality and charachter of International Cricket

Posted by veerakannadiga on (August 8, 2012, 4:59 GMT)

ECB vs KP.. end result = cricket's loss. Kindergarten kids show more maturity.Disgusting. ECB should be given a crash course in Man Management. Too proud (both sides) to get down from their high horses. Pathetic to say the least. As it is Test cricket is fighting for survival. KP is one of the very few players people pay to watch. Hope they arrive at an amicable solution & cricket emerges the winner.

Posted by   on (August 8, 2012, 4:17 GMT)

a few questions as a neutral observer-(i am from India). Couldnt KP have waited till the en of 3rd test especially since hes everyone's darling right now in UKafter that innings in second test.make no mistake if not for him SA would ahve won the test and would now be the No;1 side aseveryone agrees. Also are these 'issues' with colleagues carried forward at least a bit from his days as captain.after all those who are his 'team mates' now were his 'deputies/boys' then.core hs not changed much ifthat is the case shouldnt both the parties be questioned. Also how did CA manage poster boys like Brett Lee/Gilly.those lessons need to be passed on to many boards(WICB aswell)i raise this since many feel ECB doesnt know how to handle flamboyant players and that has always been the case(quote Botham's case).Many here would tell me BCCI needs guidance to handle Sachin,Sehwag tc BUT they dont care and they wont ask.Players also think they are divine.hope point is clear.

Posted by basophil on (August 8, 2012, 4:17 GMT)

all ecb is doing is protecting their orthodox egalitarian image when they should actually be thinking of the long-term effects of KP's withdrawal from tests. without kp, i doubt england will have a single chance in their indian tour later this year. and of course there is no way they are defending T20 world cup without the man who won it for them in the first place! and if this was his last test, england are bound to be fried by the Proteas (with the exception of prior, pietersen was the only one to make a 50+ score in the last test)

Posted by KiwiRocker- on (August 8, 2012, 4:15 GMT)

KP is not the first player or will be the last player to have such issues with his board. Real problem lies with incomptent ICC rathern than ECB. If there is a board that is hard working, honest and fair then it has to be ECB. ICC on other hand has been useless to deal the issue of IPL. Original idea ICL was immediately banned that ruined many promising careers of players from several countries excluding India offcourse, but ICC immediately supported IPL. Now IPL is a worthless tournament which is more like a circus version of cricket but it has started to ruin the cricket and created deep divisions between players and their boards. ICC needs to immediately ban IPL as it is not doing any favours to anyone except some bloated business men. India's own cricket team has become a butt of jokes with 15-0 in Australia and England so really IPL is a no win for anyone. KP should resolve issuesand offcourse it is all about the money or else he should move on! Surely,he will play worthless IPL!

Posted by nandhi on (August 8, 2012, 3:50 GMT)

Come on what is this fuss all about?No country's schedule is more hectic than Indian cricket team, and not for once our players have grumbled about it. England start lose matches,they are saying schedule is crazy.Srilanka lost at home,and they say they are a tired team....But how is that every one writes the Indian team off when they lose a series anywhere and burden them with pressure of expectation.Still the players have the resilience to perform tour after tour and consider the crazy expectations as a privilege and responsibility than as a pressure...Salute the Indian willingness to Stretch...Boo Booo the English vulnerability.....

Posted by subbass on (August 8, 2012, 1:57 GMT)

ECB are a bit of a joke. Remember how they allowed Straussy to have a break the last time we toured Bangladesh and Cook skippered the side ?

Because I do. Way to go ECB, let the best batsman leave the team, let one of the key players in us becoming one of the best sides in the world in all formats leavde the side. There is hardly a wealth of batting talent in County cricket, sure we have a great set of bowlers who could all get a game and do well, but this is not the case with the batting. And it is most definitely not if we want to play 6 batters.

I guess the one positive for me is I am a fan of 5 bowlers, so maybe by default this will happen and the likes of Onions and Panesar may finally get a game !

Posted by Pontiac on (August 8, 2012, 1:18 GMT)

The question of the NZ test would be different if NZ were fielding a full strength side. But I thought they were not?

One way to get around this is to just agree that he can control when he's available for selection but won't get a central contract, but then to say that if he gets selected sufficiently often he gets benefits equivalent to an ex post facto contract. That way everyone's face is saved in some way.

Posted by balajik1968 on (August 8, 2012, 1:12 GMT)

I don't know where things are going, but I thought the NZ schedule was crazy. New Zealand in March will be cold and windy, after a long tour of India. A year or so ago Flower was grouching about the playing schedule, and now England is going on a pretty crazy schedule. As for KP, well the English cricket management never knew how to handle flamboyant players. Botham also had problems during his playing days. I have seen a lot of posters coming down on KP like a ton of bricks, but we need to see if ECB could be a part of the problem. Ever since the Peter Moores KP fracas, I get the feeling that the management has been trying to get rid of him. For all his performances, he has not got the respect he deserves, and it is possibly eating into him and hence he is making all the mistakes. As for cherry picking tours many English and Aussie players skipped tours to the subcontinent, but they got away with it.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (August 8, 2012, 1:04 GMT)

I am sure a lot of people here calling Kevin as 'selfish', 'greedy', 'arrogant' etc etc. need to take a good, long, hard look at themselves in the mirror each morning before going to work. Aren't you people GREEDY too when you wake up each morning with only ONE intention - to make money from your jobs and careers ? So if KP wants to make more money as well as enjoy his career by playing in the IPL, he's called greedy, arrogant, selfish etc. What a bunch of hypocrites are you people ???? So if a man wants to earn more he's greedy ? Well too bad then that makes us all equally greedy. I guess you people going to your jobs and making more money is called 'being patriotic and helping your countries' ?!! ahahahah give me a break.

Posted by Robster1 on (August 8, 2012, 0:43 GMT)

Kevin - if you're unhappy again, isn't it just time to return home to Natal. KWZ will pay you a decent amount of $ for you rejoining them for their 20/20's.

Posted by Rahulbose on (August 8, 2012, 0:31 GMT)

Well Eng and KP deserve each other. Eng likes to build teams with poached players, well you can expect much loyalty when you stack your national team with folks like KP. As for KP, he is very talented but wants special treatment which he won't get from the orthodox poms.

Posted by Kirk-at-Lords on (August 8, 2012, 0:13 GMT)

Perhaps there is a clause in the ECB central contracts regarding alternative dispute resolution (ADR)? This is an ideal opportunity for a team of mediators to assist the parties in sorting out the issues and finding their way to "YES". There is still an opportunity for a triple-win here: KP, ECB, and the supporters.

Posted by cricket-india on (August 8, 2012, 0:05 GMT)

the message from mgmt is clear...u can be incompetent like strauss; u get rewarded with rest while kp, broad and co slug it out in meaningless masala ODIs and T20s. But god help u if you're capable; ur reward is a thankless workload designed to milk u dry and wear u down to ur last sinew with an unsustainable cricket calendar. sachin, vvs, ponting,dravid, waugh...these guys are considered all-time greats, yet were never capable of playing all 3 formats (granted T20 didn't exist in waugh's time, but still). kp is never counted among them, yet it's considered english cricket's birthright that he be available 24/7. guess the easist way out for kp is to play T20s and play so bad the mgmt is forced to live without him for T20s, the way they already do with the likes of strauss. i am no blind kp fan...from his side he needs to realise his attempts at prima donnaism aren't earning him any friends; even his well-intentioned and honest acts elicit suspicion and derision.

Posted by RodStark on (August 7, 2012, 23:57 GMT)

KP's biggest issue seems to be that he wants to play the full IPL rather then the NZ tests next year. Why not? NZ are apparently not bringing their best team. Why? Because their stars will be playing in the IPL. If England really have to schedule tests against weak opponents during the IPL, why not let the few of our players who are talented enough to actually be drafted by IPL teams go ahead and make the best of their opportunity, and use the "tests" as a chance to try out some younger players? Devaluing test cricket? Yes, but our early-season opponents are already doing so.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 23:48 GMT)

I have seen that Shan156 has said that England won much tests in last year including 4-0 against India.But dear mate, What about the surety that England will lose by 4-0 in this year?England is very much weak in Indian condition.So,they need their great batsman to win against India like KP.If KP is out of team then keep preparation to lose.And,you compare respect with worship.So i think,you worship all your older,not respect.If it is not then try to know real meaning of RESPECT or WORSHIP,my friend.

Posted by anuradea on (August 7, 2012, 23:28 GMT)

Looks like another Gayle vs. WICB issue minus the comments. While the famous saying "No player is bigger than the game" is true in most cases, there are a few instances we have to look at the circumstance that leads to these key players issues that creates dis harmony within teams. We can not treat the great players the same way we treat the regular players as they need to be managed caerfully. In most cases these days, the countries need these great players more than the players needing the countries simply because unlike in the past they earn less money by playing for their countries than playing in other money spinnig leagues whoi are willing to pay big bucks to get their services. Look at professionals in USA, they play for USA purely for the love of the country and NOT for the money (they make plenty with the franchises). It is time for cricket and all the boards also to take a good look at the current system or the paying public will lose out watching many many great cricketers.

Posted by cricket-india on (August 7, 2012, 22:32 GMT)

mgmt's fault - strauss need not play T20 but kp has to?? malinga left tests for T20s and is treated like royalty by his board, kp does the oppsoite and becomes a villian?? kp's fault - exhausted but not to the point that he can't skip T20 leagues? and skipping tests for IPL is a no-no!! way out - let kp play tests alone, as he requests; he's up there with the very best england have ever had. but no ipl in place of tests; you skip tests only if you're out of form or fitness, and you spend the time off to try recover your place by playing county cricket.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (August 7, 2012, 21:27 GMT)

I understand some of the English fans here saying team is greater than KP. I do agree with that sentiment to a certain extent. KP is easily the best X factor England have in their batting line up. If the chips are down, then I wouldn't want any other batsman than KP to rescue me from that dire situation. So yeah KP has EARNED his stripes and is entitled to a bit of attention from the ECB. After all his demands are not that troublesome. He's only asking to play an extra 2 weeks of IPL. Plus, he also understands the meaningless nature of international cricket nowadays. Therefore he wishes to choose only those matches he feels are really worth it. The recent ODI series against Australia was outrageous . A series that resembled a fat cash cow is what it was. KP is right here. The ECB is wrong and they need to buckle up and sort it out with Kevin. Otherwise we could have a Chris Gayle situation here. There is no doubt KP loves to play for England.

Posted by kallis57 on (August 7, 2012, 21:23 GMT)

KP is our best batsman. He plays innings no other English player can play. He scores quickly when he is in and takes pressure off any player he bats with. How would James Taylor have felt if he had come in with Trott Strauss or Cook blocking out maiden after maiden at the other end? KP allowed Taylor to play himself in and flourish. KP has done this numerous times. When KP scores runs England play better. He has bad runs like any other player, but when he scores runs they change the course of games. From his Ashes clinching ton at the Oval through his 4 test double hundreds all of which led to victories to his remarkable batting to salvage some pride from our tour to Sri Lanka he wins games pleases crowds and puts bums on seats - give the man a break.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 21:10 GMT)

@Nikul Patel

'Is that you Kevin?' It really is beneath you commenting on your own story!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 21:10 GMT)

@Nikul Patel

'Is that you Kevin?' It really is beneath you commenting on your own story!

Posted by cricjaffa on (August 7, 2012, 21:04 GMT)

Pietersen should now try and play for his country of birth "South Africa". Which is by far much beter team than England......

Posted by MattyP1979 on (August 7, 2012, 21:00 GMT)

Eng are percieved as over-rated due to the lack of so called 'stars' in our squad. But it is our unity, hard work and management that have lifted us from our apparent lack of ability. We are still no.1, come next week we might not be but we are a damn good side (better than the sum of our parts). KP although one of our better players could be upsetting this situation and our true strength. If it is not sorted out I would rather he leave than brinig the team down around him.

Posted by aakailasam on (August 7, 2012, 20:49 GMT)

I would have to say that probably for the first time ever, I sympathized for Kevin Peterson. Just watch this 7 minute badgering from the media:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/content/current/video_audio/576046.html

As an Indian supporter I find him brash and arrogant. But clearly this is ridiculous.. Leave the guy alone...

Posted by Hardy1 on (August 7, 2012, 20:44 GMT)

Such a little primadonna...'it's tough being me', seriously...the guy's a great player but reeks of arrogance.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 20:41 GMT)

@mgzak, Interesting that you tell KP to join WI, where you feel he would be respected. Guess, you don't know a player named Chris Gayle!

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 20:23 GMT)

@ Optimistix.. I guessed someone would jump into defending KP.. OK.. the plain truth is that Cook and Bell both get out for less than 50 in a smaller percentage of their innings than KP.. at 66% and 63% respectively...

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 20:16 GMT)

Let's state some facts: KP is a really good player, as much as it pains me to say it. KP and ECB have to negotiate how best to continue while determining what will be in both's best interest. If no compromise can be reached: have a happy IPL KP, good fortune to some other up and coming England cricketer who will now have a chance. No one is irreplaceable.

Personal remarks: I think it is highly unprofessional of him to make these remarks in the middle of a test series and especially after he played such a magnificent innings and crucial role in England's innings. It smacks of arrogance as if he thinks he is irreplaceable and that England won't drop him for the next test because he is just too good and valuable. My advice, ECB, drop him for the third test. No one is above the game.

Posted by vertical on (August 7, 2012, 20:11 GMT)

@jb633 You made the comment that Athletics is more popular sport in England and will become the summer sport replacing cricket which is incorrect.I am trying to argue is that more participation in a particular sport does not make it a more popular sport.If that was the criteria swimming would be the most popular sport in Australia rather than AFL and Volleyball would rate as the most popular in many countries including US.Yes cricket is waning in England and many others including windies,but still a cricket match in Windies or England generates more revenues and brings in more spectators to the ground and tele than any athletics event(other than the Olympics).

Posted by Shan156 on (August 7, 2012, 20:11 GMT)

I see Indian fans are asking England to adopt the hero worship that they do in their country. It may be normal in India for a 'star' to do whatever he wants but in England the team is bigger than an individual and the sport is bigger than anything else. One guy claims that India have more trophies than do England. oh yeah, what about test wins buddy? Even considering only the last 5 years, England have more test wins than India who really are test match draw specialists. Another guy is referring to the corporate mentality and asking why not use the same approach. The difference is, you may quit one corporation and join another. The pride of playing for your country is bigger than that of working for a corporation. Cricket is a team sport and all XI are needed to win games. KP can score all the runs but it requires another guy to give him support and the bowlers to take 20 wickets for England to win. If KP values IPL more than playing for England, he should be dropped.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 19:54 GMT)

KP,don't need to play for England where no respect is shown for a great cricketer.Look in India that The great cricketers are respected how much.Some guys can say Indian players are poor in form because of enough respect.But,I can say,India have much more trophies than England.

Posted by mgzak on (August 7, 2012, 19:52 GMT)

Pietersen is good for cricket. The problem with administrators is they just don't know how to handle super stars. It's a bit like Lara and the WICB. Cricket needs Pietersen and if England don't want him, I will beg him to come live in the WI....the fans here will adore him. I for one, will once again be watching WI play cricket.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 19:46 GMT)

Snooty Poms! I'd rather give a player like KP some preferential treatment. Heck, what's wrong with that? Even in corporate world, certain employees whom you want to retain are given various additional incentives. If KP is lost out to international cricket, it would be one of the biggest shames. Even bigger than losing out the precocious talent called Mohd Aamer, who was lost out due to foolishness.

Posted by duncanmoo on (August 7, 2012, 19:41 GMT)

Too good for South Africa, Too good for England, Oh poor lad why does nobody understand how he suffers! *sulk*

Posted by Optimistix on (August 7, 2012, 19:40 GMT)

Bobmartin - You point out that KP gets out for under 50 in 68% of his inns, without providing the figures for other players. Crossing 50 in 32% of one's innings is actually pretty good, even if not a great way of assessing the performance of an impact player like KP or Sehwag, both of whom can change a game very quickly, and have also managed to maintain high test averages without sacrificing their aggressive styles.

Posted by hitesh288 on (August 7, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

First of all he is under contract to work for an employer, if employer says you need to do this, you do it. He had option not to sign up. This isnt his country of birth, he adopted this country so he can get to play professional cricket. ECB and BCCI are two different boards and have different policies so comparisons to ST is ridiculous also KP is not ST not even by any standard and in format. Also with Sachin's age and fitness issues, BCCI want him to rest as much as he can. Also why did he not say anything after 1st test? was it because he didnt really do anything? Here he scored century so he thought, hey I can make some noise.. It is not for money has to be the biggest joke... he singled out IPL, didnt say SLPL or BPL or any other leagues.. Best thing for ECB to do is drop him get someone else in..... He be coming back crying

Posted by The_bowlers_Holding on (August 7, 2012, 19:27 GMT)

S4CHIN_IS_GOD - The name says it all. In England it is about the collective team, KP is a special talent but this is a team event , cricket fans in England are different I think than in India. It is probably because that sort of idol worship is more associated with football over here, we have a variety of sports teams so the demi-god status KP has seen in the IPL and longs for will never happen in ole England.

Posted by durbanite on (August 7, 2012, 19:11 GMT)

Let him play what makes him happy

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 18:59 GMT)

I thought that I'd dig a little deeper into KP's statistics since a lot of people on here seem to think he's some sort of irreplaceable asset to the England team.. It came as no surprise to me to find the following..KP has a century rate of 13.9% of his innings... Cook's figures are 13.8%... Strauss's 12%... and Bell 12%....Those are the plain facts... and just to add a little bit more fuel to the fire.. in 68% of his innings KP has been dismissed for less than 50.. Not quite the superman many folk believe him to be. Perhaps it proves the old story... that if you tell enough people enough times how good you are.. sooner or later they will start to believe you...

Posted by SwingReverse on (August 7, 2012, 18:56 GMT)

KP is a very talented batsman but he is equal in rights to other players. If he wants to play Tests only then why not play the NZ series next March? If IPL is the goal then retire and continue with IPL. The money he would get will be enough to keep him going for a couple of seasons in T20 leagues around the globe.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 18:55 GMT)

What a difference between BCCI (Indian Board) and ECB . BCCI goes to the other extreme by treating the Indian cricketers as superstars and allowing them to take breaks and then come back to the Indian team any time without even insisting that they play domestic matches and prove their form. Tendulkar, Sehwag, Zaheer etc. And now Yuvraj, back from cancer, assumes that the Indian team has a place for him.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 18:50 GMT)

KP doesn't arrange this press meet and he Just answered the questions raised by media. To all the guys who said KP is opening his mouth in wrong time, he doesnt even open his mouth. Better you guys watch the video and they comment on KP. I think when people see two letter KP they ll start commenting on his ego, SA born blah blah blah.

To all people who said KP is inconsistent, an article on cricinfo dated april 14, 2012 states that KP is THE CONSISTENT of all modern cricketers scored just below 7000 runs.

Better you guys read this before commenting here. http://blogs.espncricinfo.com/sadisthour/archives/2012/08/dont_rob_us_all_of_kp.php

Posted by MunafAhmed811 on (August 7, 2012, 18:47 GMT)

ECB is like WICB. Treat their gems like trash. Without KP the only sole victory England has in world cricket tournaments (T20 Worldcup 2009) would not exist. Heck even Ashes 2005 would have gone Aussies way. Whats wrong if he wants a casual leave from one series to play IPL...Normal employees around world take 1 month off to what they want ...even CEO's of companies take a break and deliver leactures at management institutes to make a bit extra on the side. KP is asking somethnig similar and no harm in that

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 7, 2012, 18:46 GMT)

This is the future. ENG can't digest the fact that IPL has gone to another level. They r the inventor of the game but India is the power house of the cricket

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 18:33 GMT)

Posted by KTiwari on (August 07 2012, 16:40 PM GMT). "India allows Sachin to play ODI and Test and not T20s" Then bigger fools the BCCI.. for allowing a player to cherry pick when and where he will play. Who's in charge, the BCCI or are they so besotted with Tendulkar that they bow and scrape to his every whim (the DRS fiasco immediately springs to mind ) I don't think India is in any position to criticise the ECB.. Get on and sort your own problems out, we are quite capable of sorting out ours on our won thank you

Posted by warneneverchuck on (August 7, 2012, 18:23 GMT)

Without KP ENG can't win single match in India . Anyways he can get name and fame both while playing IPL as he has more fans in India than ENG

Posted by Rezaul on (August 7, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Its going to be a shame for the die hard cricket fans to loose KP as a cricketer. I can NOT imagine KP is not batting anymore in Test cricket and is not playing a game changing innings like Colombo and Headingley. One more point, can anybody explain why his personal conversation gets leaked to the Media? Is there an agenda or hidden intention wortking behind the scene? As a fan, we dont want to see all these politics. All we want is cricket at its best and cricket being the talking point not these outside matters.

Posted by funkyandy on (August 7, 2012, 18:16 GMT)

He'll definitely need the big money now - he'll have to get that England tattoo removed!!

Posted by jb633 on (August 7, 2012, 18:14 GMT)

@Vertical, I can't see the point you are arguing. Having coached a bit of cricket in clubs and schools as a summer job this year, let me tell you that people are really worried about the state of the game in England. Personally I think the weather in this country will eventually kill the game off. Our govt is putting more resourses into athletics clubs than cricket clubs. The simple reason for this is because they want to be seen as being pro active in their battle against childhood obesity. Unfortunatley the loser has been cricket. Younger generations are having their summer attentions diverted by athletics clubs, because it is promoted in schools. Cricket is slowly dying in our country. Since the dimished reputation of test cricket I think a lot of people have fallen out of love with the game. The audiences that T2O was aimed at have unsuprisingly moved on to the next craze and even audiences for that have plummeted.

Posted by AKS286 on (August 7, 2012, 18:02 GMT)

everyone is blaming IPL. IPL is the domestic t20 competition of india ok if any player is giving priority IPL over his country then whose fault is this? Oz players always choose their motherland. a person who blame his motherland and migrate to some-other country is a person of no country. for KP i think he must migrate to INDIA, so he can play for india & most imp. IPL.

Posted by screamingeagle on (August 7, 2012, 17:45 GMT)

Well...so much for team unity and all that stuff. Pietersen is quite clear. He wants to play IPL and other such stuff. ECB does not want him to, only coz they do not want IPL to figure in their agenda. Well, IPL is not going away, so tough luck. However...Pietersen might be going away. :P Shame about the England team. Too bad it wont last.

Posted by hhillbumper on (August 7, 2012, 17:32 GMT)

KP is a talent.But if you just let individuals run a team then you end up with a mess like the Indian team has become.The ECB is right and if KP does not want to play then good luck and choose someone else like Buttler,Hildreth,Hales or any other young english player.Bye KP I enjoyed your batting but as part of ateam you suck

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 17:29 GMT)

I think this is the best for English Cricket and KP. As a KP fan, I would just like to remind ECB and it's sponsors (who are silently playing a huge role behind the scenes) players like KP, Symonds and Gayle are very hard to find.

Posted by viddyspotter on (August 7, 2012, 17:29 GMT)

Coming from an Englishman, KP is just afraid of India, because he had a rift there with Peter Moores in 2008 that started his bad relationship with the ECB. He wants to retire now and will be pleading for a return after that series. Same against West Indies- didn't want to face them in ODIs because he was afraid of denting his reputation, but given the chance to play anyone else he would. The ECB is well within its rights to adopt a stance on Pietersen that limits his selfish behaviour and inability to let go of the past.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 17:29 GMT)

Good batsman, good riddance. Sport does not need people like Pietersen...his behaviour is antithetical to it.

Posted by no.1_multicultural_team on (August 7, 2012, 17:16 GMT)

To some extent I feel that the real issue is the power struggle between ECB and the IPL. as he wants to play for IPL, and ECB wants to remain in denial of IPL. Let me tell you,those who say IPL is all slogging no talent,dont know cricket.Just like the Flat Track myth,this is another myth. IPL requires a different set of skill, as do subcontinent tracks.Eng players except him are no good at improvisation in batting ,playing the spin,and variation in bowling.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (August 7, 2012, 17:14 GMT)

England reap what you sow, you import talent from abroad and you kid yourself if they are really think they are playing for their country. Pietersen plays for money and fame. Its a dilehma for england, drop him and you have nothing left.

Posted by rohan024 on (August 7, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

IPL is certainly destroying international cricket, no doubt about it. You give the reign of a game in the hand of corporate world, and you should expect that they will monetize it no end without worrying about the outside effects. That's exactly what's happening to cricket now. No doubt, money is the biggest reason why KP wants to play IPL. Having said that, its no secret that the legend KP hasn't been treated properly by English cricket. ECB and Englishmen in England team should realize that no matter how hard they try to ignore it, KP is a legend of the game and much higher in stature than any cricketer England has produced in the recent past. Probably, this fact is something that bothers Strauss and played like Swann, who in the past was unhappy about Flintoff's popularity.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 17:09 GMT)

He wants to spend more time with his family and was upset to miss his son's birthday this year playing a county match in preparation for the first test v West Indies. Yet if he was still at the IPL he would have missed it.

Posted by indiarox4ever on (August 7, 2012, 17:03 GMT)

Why only ECB----the whole cricketing world ----yes even Sri lankans, Pakistanis etc are pretending that IPL does not matter. Hypocrites all. At least KP is clear what he is after and why not. He is a professional. Just like the footballers do it in English Premier league the cricketers can have their say in cricket. ECB and the these bunch of hypocrites have to think again. And by the way this English team was never great. They were only blinded by their performances at home which is practically what every team does. For English team even this phenomenon was new

Posted by Sakthiivel on (August 7, 2012, 16:55 GMT)

Thanks for the people curse IPL. btw KP say some about the close door issue, which should be highlighted. But poor English fans dont have guts to accept the mistake of ECB.

Posted by vertical on (August 7, 2012, 16:48 GMT)

@jb633 My point still stands.Sure I know cricket has been on the decline in england since the 90s(probably hit a plateau in 2000s). While in school and college it was difficult for most to get into the football and cricket teams,so there was more participation in athletics(half the school in cross-country).I enjoyed playing badminton and squash but still would prefer watching a cricket or football game.Most sports in Olympics have minimal to zero entertainment/spectator value,I would rather watch paint dry than synchronized swimming or discus throw.Ask the kids how many have watched the IAAF world championships,the answer won't be flattering.

Posted by HK_Sachin on (August 7, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

Hey Kevin P,

If you were to take a "break" for a while, we as your fans would completely completely understand.

This is obnoxious, the game, intensity and team compositions have radically changed from what/how ECB seems to envisage its interactions internally within the team, or rest of the world.

Sorry you or others who are tired, have to ensure this "types of inconsistencies" or poor management.

Cheers .

Posted by KTiwari on (August 7, 2012, 16:40 GMT)

I think it is becoz he wanted to play only T20 and Test but some of the egoist leaders at ECB does not want this. ECB themselevs have separate team & Captain for ODI and T20 then why not allow a player to retire from ODI and still play T20. Kevin really wanted to play T20 World Cup but ECB will not let him. India allows Sachin to play ODI and Test and not T20s.

Posted by ArsalanMujahidGhouri on (August 7, 2012, 16:37 GMT)

Why not they (ECB) disclose what KP is doing behind the close doors, and show the real face of the hero, who trying to exert pressure on authorities. Dont try to take sympathy of public..

Posted by Nutcutlet on (August 7, 2012, 16:22 GMT)

So, if we take KP's prediction that the 3rd Test v SA will be his last representative game for England, & we know that he is mad-keen to play in the IPL ('It's absolutely 100% not about the money!' Ha! Who does he is think he he is fooling?), Then there remains one gaping blackhole about KP that's left: where, apart from the IPL (and similar slogfests), will he play his cricket? All of this leads me to believe that this is not the concluding chapter of his story, because there is no ending: KP is a soap opera. He craves fame (fan adulation is dear to heart -'Spectators just love watching me play') & sooner rather than later he'd want the adulation back again. He has to play on to satisfy the showman in his make-up. Then the question arises who would want to play with him? The sorry track-record is hardly an inducement to yet another employer. With the brilliant batsman comes a complex character: abrasive, rebellious, self-centred, sometimes affable, sometimes paranoid. Any takers?

Posted by stormy16 on (August 7, 2012, 16:20 GMT)

I'm afraid KP cannot be allowed to pick and chose series as that's could get out of control if others also did the same and is a slap in the face of the opponent. This is a 'i'm bigger than the game' attitude which simply wont fly. There is also a lesson for the ECB - are they going to continue to pretend the IPL is not important ETC ETC? I am afraid that wont fly with the players either. Why must a player not have the opportunity to play in the IPL just because you play for Eng. A compromise is needed to ensure a Chris Gayle like facre doesnt become an eventuality.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 16:18 GMT)

You are the man KP..Look after yourself brother..Time is money and you need money in this time. Free your mind..express your talent..be the one in IPL, BB.. We are behind you.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

KP wants to drop his employer (ECB) to have a full a go at a part-time job (IPL) - conflict of interest? Say I am a plumber employed with a big firm. I ask my boss for leave of absence to do spare time jobs. That's not on, unless I work for family. Cricket is his fun-game but also his employment and he should take that seriously. So he must decide what he wants, test cricket, ODI, T20, IPL and/or BBL.

Posted by abhay8157 on (August 7, 2012, 16:15 GMT)

Why would he give that interview in the middle of a test series... And all he said was I wont say anything till end of the series...

Then why waste everyone's time and cause the Mental agony before the third test...

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 16:06 GMT)

Posted by njr1330 on (August 07 2012, 15:16 PM GMT) "The ECB say you can't just play one type of one-day cricket - why not? They say you can't pick and choose which matches you play - why not? They say you can't choose which tours to avoid - why not?" Simples... He who pays the piper calls the tune... that's why

Posted by Chalky2 on (August 7, 2012, 16:05 GMT)

Bottom line is......You either want to play for your country or you don't, no ifs and buts, and therein lies the problem with Pietersen.

Pietersen isn't an Englishman, but took the opportunity that came his way because it was more lucrative for him. He wants IPL for the same reason...money!

Let him go, and lets have Joss Buttler in his place. I for one am fed up with listening to him trying to convince everyone how he loves playing for England yet when it comes to the crunch he doesn't give a damn...the word Mercenary springs to mind!

Posted by jb633 on (August 7, 2012, 16:02 GMT)

@bharth. yes yes yes I completley agree with you. The premier league has lost its soul and it is a disgrace. The effect it has had upon the national side is there for all to see. I cannot understand why we do not have any quotas of English players we have to fill. At least the IPL has that. The IPL is the eqivalent of the premier league. Souless breeding greed, but very entertaining. Also the detrimental effects on the relative national sides are parallel. India used to be twice the side they are now.

Posted by jb633 on (August 7, 2012, 15:53 GMT)

@yorkshirematt- I could not agree more. We are spent as a force without KP. The only reason we didnt lose heavily in this game was because of KP. Got a horrible feeling of deja vu coming along in this series. Bowlers looking slow and batsman sitting ducks. Please lets not go back to the 90's again.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 15:51 GMT)

why tests - he should not quit tests. his carer should be about tests and IPL

Posted by kh1902 on (August 7, 2012, 15:50 GMT)

Some people on this forum have made bizarre comparisons between Pietersen and Tendulkar. Not every cricket issue has to have Tendulkar dragged into it. It's really boring - he's not the only player in the game. I just wish Pietersen had kept his mouth shut until after the series.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

Drop him from the England side - as easy as that. Too many conflicts of interests. The world is bigger than KP...let him go...

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 15:40 GMT)

exactly kevin pieterson wants more money . ipl is more important than kevin pieterson should leave . that will be in the interest of the game

Posted by jb633 on (August 7, 2012, 15:39 GMT)

@vertical, yeah I agree just wanted to wind RandyOz up. But lets be honest Aussie sport is on the decline fact. There own government are launching an enquiry into the reasons behind their deterioration. There outdoor lifestyle is being questioned since their obesity rates have reached record heights. It's very rich for an Aussie to be slating England right now. And seriously if you don't live here how do you know about cricket declining in popularity. In primary schools ups and down the country kwik cricket is being replaced with track and field. I know because I am a coach who has been asked to teach rounders, atheltics instead of cricket. Cricket is slowly dying in England and losing our star names to the IPL will speed up the process. Already govt grants have been halved to help youth cricket. Why is this?? Because athletics is taking over as the summer sport. That is a fact.

Posted by kh1902 on (August 7, 2012, 15:36 GMT)

As with most issues, both parties are to blame to varying degrees. The ECB should have let him play in the world T20 and Pietersen shouldn't be mouthing off at inconvenient times.

As for the IPL, I'm surprised at the dramatic comments that it's ruining the game. I think one-day cricket had an equally detrimental impact on Indian cricket, since it gave the BCCI an avenue to earn alot of money while not investing in the infrastructure required to produce a good test team.

As for countries like Australia and England I can't see how it's ruining their cricket - the Australians chose to play only a 2 test series against SA and hold their Big Bash tournament at a time which was detrimental to their test team. England rest bowlers of the calibre of Broad and Andersen from a test match and the ECB bickers with Pietersen. How can a 6 week tournament in India be responsible for these issues?

Posted by Muhtasim13 on (August 7, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

With South Africa's injury woes, I wonder whether they would take KP back in their side

Posted by Emijhb on (August 7, 2012, 15:27 GMT)

No doubt KP is a great player but his ego is always his downfall. He stumbles from controversy to controversy but always has a list of other people who are to blame. He wants to be chased but never is. Not by South Africa, not by the various counties he has gone through. I imagine all those teams at some point have missed his batting in the middle order but equally I am sure none have missed the drama he takes with him wherever he goes. A few years ago England could not imagine a team without KP, today they can without a great deal of difficulty and so they won't chase him either. And as usual that will not compute with his endlessly high opinion of himself.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

I'm actually going back on my comment re the NZ series. When I posted that comment , I was thinking that England were going to be hosting NZ in March (2 months earlier than usual) but it seems that England are touring NZ in March and I gather the May series at home is clashing with IPL.I did predict that England and KP would go their seperate ways after this series and unfortunately it seems to be true.

Posted by Richmac on (August 7, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

We may miss your talent in SA but not your bull

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 15:22 GMT)

The trouble is that KP and the ECB just don't get along. There is blame on both sides - KP is reckless in his comments to the press and puts the ECB in a corner leaving them no choice but to oppose him, whilst the ECB handles KP badly and provokes these outbursts.

I now fully expect the Lords test to be KP's last, because both sides are too stubborn and proud to compromise, even though it is actually in their interests to do so. England need KP, but KP needs England too - I assure you he will soon get bored of 20/20 all the time, especially since he is still 32 and got plenty of years to go.

I can't help but feel that this whole thing, including his one day "retirement" could have been handled quitely behind closed doors. KP doesn't want to play the Aussie ODI's? Fine, say he is being rested, that way he could play the World 20/20, then a final decision could be made. He wants to play more IPL? Well perhaps he could be rested for the first test series next summer!

Awful mess.

Posted by MrPontingToYou on (August 7, 2012, 15:17 GMT)

"For me, the saddest part about all this is that the spectators just love watching me play"...... arrogant??.. perhaps. true??.. absolutely. make no mistake kp is the most etertaining of all the english batsmen.

Posted by njr1330 on (August 7, 2012, 15:16 GMT)

The ECB say you can't just play one type of one-day cricket - why not? They say you can't pick and choose which matches you play - why not? They say you can't choose which tours to avoid - why not? It's only the ECB that cares about all this...the spectators don't give a dam. We just want to be entertained...and preferably not at a cost of £50-60 per day. KP is a right royal pain in the bum...but people will pay hard-earned money to watch him. They won't pay to watch some county no-mark taking 40 balls to get off nought. Where was our precious team spirit when Amla was 300 not out?! KP is a necessary, and very entertaining, evil !!

Posted by scritty on (August 7, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

EPL does not take prescidence over international games. IPL is a DOMESTIC competition where 2/3rds of the players are from one nation. For international game to bow down to one countries domestic league - a league where outside of the international stars the quality of cricket is really rather poor - is not good for the game. Course Pietersen, McCullam and Gayle score quick hundreds, look at the dross that's bowling at them most of the time! Half of them would struggle to make a village league side never mind county second eleven over in the UK. Further, it's the beginning of the end of the game. Pietersen should go to the IPL for his own sake. He's 32 going on 33 so I doubt if he has more than 3 years left in the tank anyway. So many brilliant young batsmen queueing up that he wont be missed for long.

Posted by gdalvi on (August 7, 2012, 15:07 GMT)

I believe Baundele has the right comments - this is really a power struggle between management trying to enslave the players and players fighting for what is right. Creating artificial rules (T20 players must play ODI) that make no sense and violate the player's right to choose and then making grandiose statements like "no one is bigger than game" is just condescending even imperialist. Do British olympics managment also mandate that sprint runner must also be available for marathon?

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (August 7, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

Well - that is the end of KP. ECB will not take any ultimatum from anyone. KP never achieve the greatness he said he wanted. There were some Inning of genius - Oval 2005, Lords 2011, Adelaide 2006 + 2010, Mohali 2009, Colombo 2012. Great memory especially Oval 2005 to win Ashes. Thank you Keven Pietersen and goodbye.

Posted by Rezaul on (August 7, 2012, 14:54 GMT)

KP should get due respect. He is such a quality player who can single handedly win any game from any position. I doubt whether England can produce another player like KP. I agree that England is a formidable side but without KP they will be just short always. Just look at second Test against SA. If it was not for KP's counter attacking century it could be a different test for England to try and save formula. There are so many other examples can be cited. Honestly and finally, England needs KP.

Posted by Kaikobad.zico on (August 7, 2012, 14:49 GMT)

It will be a disaster for me if I don't see him again in international cricket :(

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 14:41 GMT)

bcci should speak to KP and ask him to represent indian in all three forms, he is worth his weight in gold.

Posted by D_Jardine on (August 7, 2012, 14:40 GMT)

Too many of you are missing the matter of immediate interest, which is not the postruring about whether Pietersen will play after Lords. As only one perceptive poster below has noticed, the immediate issue for Lords concerns the nature of the the "points I'm trying to sort out in the dressing room" - see Pietersen's words quoted in the article above. I'm willing to bet that Bopara's "personal reasons" for pulling out of the last test are one such point.

Posted by Anwar-Lara on (August 7, 2012, 14:38 GMT)

Why is there such hype about KP, i completely agree that he is one the best cricketer around , but.. it does not mean that he should start taking decisions like that.. the world has seen a lot better players than KP entering and exiting the game... wont make a difference..

Posted by bumsonseats on (August 7, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

great cricketer but iv never liked him. cricket is a team game that individuals have to play as a team. he should have been a golfer were he could decide which events he plays during a 12 month season. if some of his team mates have had enough of his big girls tantrums, then its time he did retired. will he leave the uk and move back to saffaland you bet he wont. his english wife will make sure of that. what will he do now. well i suppose in 2 weeks time he will want to play all the formats as he said he wanted too, a month ago. will england miss him of course they will. but they will get over it.

Posted by gerrardl on (August 7, 2012, 14:30 GMT)

All those suggesting KP go back and play for SA... I sincerely hope you are joking! That would never happen.

This is the world's most dominant player, money on the ECB to fold and give him what he wants, or most of it at least. Kicking him to the curb will be the silliest thing they can do.

KP - dominant at the crease and dominant in the boardroom ;)

Posted by Clyde on (August 7, 2012, 14:27 GMT)

Pietersen would not be Pietersen in any other form of the game. His daring is that only in a Test context. He will continue in Tests, not missing a beat.

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 14:25 GMT)

The KP problem is an internal one.. I'm sure the ECB will be eternally grateful for all the advice on the matter it is receiving from our international friends. The plain fact is that KP is free to swan off in a hizzy fit and play all the T20 cricket he wants when his current contract expires. If/when he is offered another one. all he has to do is refuse to sign it He's a free agent, he can do what he wants once he's out of contract.....Where's the problem.. Why all this song and dance. Bye-bye KP.. thanks a bunch and good riddance.

Posted by sirvivfan on (August 7, 2012, 14:19 GMT)

Richardson Mzaidume-you are spot on about KP staying in his homeland and fight for a spot in the team. I keep hearing about this racial quota's but all the selections have been justified as far as I am concerned! KP culturally is not set up to play for Emgland, at personal level he struggles with it?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

Certain commentators are missing the point. England and West Indies are unique in that their cricket / test season overlaps with the IPL so the ECB needs its cricketers to commit to the test schedule: you've already seen what it has done to the underpaid West Indian test team. Anyway, is IPL really anything other than a horrible (albeit entertaining) bastardization of the game. Would high level test players play in IPL if it weren't for the money? Of course not, it's all to do with the $$$ and not the kudos. I don't see Kallis and Warner and Gilchrist etc etc playing in Bangladesh or Sri Lanka or England.

Posted by martinohero on (August 7, 2012, 14:06 GMT)

@bharath - comparing the EPL and IPL is ridiculous.

Firstly, the EPL does not interfere with international football. They don't play on international days to allow players to play for their country!

As much as I love to watch the IPL, I do think they need to shorten it so that it does not interfere with the International Cricket Schedule.

Posted by cskfangg on (August 7, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

There won't be any internationals during the season of UEFA or any football league..Unlike cricket, there is no hectic international schedule in any sports so they can earn money from other leagues.. Poor cricketers play too much internationals and when they trying to manage both, their own people treat them as traitors..It's high time for the cricket boards to cut down their internationals and stop this debate.. Unless the corresponding Board reschedule their FTP, these stories like KP's & Gayle's will continue…

Posted by Anil_m on (August 7, 2012, 13:46 GMT)

KP can switch back to his native South Africa to play tests.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

He would rather play IPL than test cricket for England. Money before national pride.

Posted by yorkshirematt on (August 7, 2012, 13:38 GMT)

Well Pietersengate was always going to explode eventually and it's been threatening to all summer. It hurts to say it but there will never be an "english" KP, no englishmean would dare play some of the shots he plays because they grow up on seaming, swinging wickets where orthodox strokes are key. And it's no coincidence that England have been on the up generally since he came into the side. Say what you like about him as a person but I really can't see England going far without him. They're a solid unit and are usually too good for most teams in home conditions, but without KP they'll always be just that. SA will certainly win the series and go to no.1 now, whether KP plays at Lords' or not. The damage has already been done.

Posted by bharath74 on (August 7, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

U hate IPL but u love EPL, Dont u think it is ruining world football?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 13:34 GMT)

If ECB does not go with this, they are for sure going to be down in couple of years... Whats wrong with KP???? He is the only player in english side who can turn a game.... His games, records stands for it...

Don't worry KP.... If ECB does not... IPL is always there for you.

Posted by Anwaruzz on (August 7, 2012, 13:32 GMT)

Sorry Peterson. You have to be a Gayle force to do what he did to WI. England is far too formidable to cater to individual interest. Faster you qre out better for the team and for you. IPL rules and destroys !!!

Posted by 68704 on (August 7, 2012, 13:31 GMT)

I think for once Pietersen is right. I am not saying he is perfect far from it but the ECB andI most boards tend to be autocratic,The ECB is taking out its angst on BCCI and the IPL on Petersen. He will rock the boat and be high maintenance but the ECB has already sacked him from the captaincy and from the one day teams and even the T20, what more do they want? If they want to brush IPL under the carpet and pretend that it does not exist , then it is their problem. Players make more in IPL than in their life time and why should they be denied it. I do realize that test is more important than club but players have missed series before for personal reasons. Most international cricketers used to skip tours to the sub-conitnent. Why double standards now? I am with you KP become a free lance cricketer if the board continues to be dumb and England can kiss their no 1 status goodbye and forget about getting it back in the near future. you deserve it England Ramanujam sridhar

Posted by Anwar-Lara on (August 7, 2012, 13:29 GMT)

Why is there such hype about KP, i completely agree that he is one the best cricketer around , but.. it does not mean that he should start taking decisions like that.. the world has seen a lot better players than KP entering and exiting the game... wont make a difference..

Posted by mahjut on (August 7, 2012, 13:27 GMT)

i like KP in the IPL but i doubt i will notice if he doesn't play test cricket ... honestly, he really isn't that important a test player - if he opened the innings like shewag, or was a gritty fighter when against the wall, like Chanders, in the middle order i would miss him more but as it is England have Bell and Prior who can pretty much cover in his absence and in fact have the ability to fight when demended. I guess it boils down to what one likes: and i would rather have a Chanders than a KP (unless opening - then Tresco, hayden, Shewag...make good viewing - especially when partnered by a cook or kirsten).

Posted by ZsZs on (August 7, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

I would hate to see him leave England Cricket.

Posted by mark2011 on (August 7, 2012, 13:20 GMT)

whatever happns as a sri lankan crik lovers we would like to see him play criket..even in last one ofF test match played in SL what an inning he played.. i dont know why playrs get into issues with something like IPL which is a circus.. if we gonna loos this guy.. it is sad for world crikts.. not only Eng.. already few big shots retired.. so shoud we loos too many due to personal rifts??? lets hope things wil be sorted out positively.. dear KP if u decide to leave playing Eng.. pls come to Sri Lanka.. u would be good asset...anyway wiish u good luck.

Posted by ProdigyA on (August 7, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

Enough of this off-field drama. I thot only Pak had this previledge but now seems like its caught England too. This is what happens when you face reality, England was never a champion cricket team, just a few wins and they start to feel invincible. So grow up and be men - if you want to play, play else get the hell out. There are always replacables.

Posted by LeftBrain on (August 7, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

What cant England make a decision about him. Players power cant help team unity a single. Look at Pakistan, West Indies or India for example.

Posted by vertical on (August 7, 2012, 13:17 GMT)

@jb6333 I'm neither aus or eng but that was over the top calling Australia garbage nation at sport just because of one odd failure at Olympics.And GB has done well in Olympics because they have targeted one particular sport that is cycling just like they won 8 golds in Beijing in Cyling."Athletics becoming a summer sport"--you must be kidding me,there is always hype about Olympics in the host country and then it all fades away.Athletics is not a spectator sport more like minute events,no one's gonna watch them(the only reason people are interested now .is because it's the Olympics-world event).How many watch the world aquatics championship each year?How many watch the gymnastic championship?Most of the time it's not even televised!!

Posted by no.1_multicultural_team on (August 7, 2012, 13:04 GMT)

Why someone working in a country needs to wave its flag and show patriotism for that country? When a professional is hired,its a two way contract,he gives his skill and you pay him for his skills. What is wrong in playing for money for a professional?Its his job.He is not playng for fun.Eng needs him more than he needs Eng.If he goes plays for IPL so whats wrong in that.Seems Eng wants to buy patritiotism,forgetting you can never buy respect and patriotism.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

It would have been even funny if he was negotiating with ECB whenever he was going in for luch or tea which scoring his superb 149. LOL!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

Kevin will be one of the best cricketers the world has seen. ECB should try to listen to him keeping the ego's a side. End of the day England will be the looser if kevin stops playing. He is one of the players who was liked by entire world.

Posted by Hammond7249 on (August 7, 2012, 12:57 GMT)

When you have Olympic athletes, some of whom get very little funding, getting gold medals or even being grateful for getting a bronze, it makes Kevin Pietersen look even more selfish and pathetic. Indulging in one man's ego and letting him get away with temper tantrums can only be detrimental to the rest of the team. Besides, Alistair Cook is going to be a true England great, not Pietersen.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 12:53 GMT)

I think one of the problems is that Eng don't have the batting reserves that we have in the bowling department. KP will be a huge miss and I'd say 95%+ English fans would want KP to remain an Eng player across all 3 formats. Having said that KP has not been the saviour of English cricket that so many our implying. Where was KP when we needed him to perform in the UAE series and when we wanted him to hold himself together in the 1st test ? Yes , all our batsmen underperformed in UAE as did most (considering conditions) in the 1st test but Trott averages more than KP , and Cook and Bell are not much behind him in terms of averages

Posted by Wexfordwonder on (August 7, 2012, 12:53 GMT)

Imagine an England without KP. Subtract 149 runs and 3 wickets. I reckon SA would be heading for a whitewash

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@Sandeep Albert Mathias on (August 07 2012, 10:36 AM GMT) Yes , I totally agree with this. When our 1st influx of foreign footballers came through it was probably helpful as our English players were learning from them , but there came a point where because there were so many it was stifling opportunities for our home grown players.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@Supa_SAFFA on (August 07 2012, 09:25 AM GMT) Are you seriously saying the other Peterson and Rudolph are better than KP?

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

@Harmony111 The thing is KP signed for both ODIs and T20s together so he knew what the score is. Personally , I can see it from both points of view - a bit more now that I realise that the NZ series is NOT at a usual time for the 1st English summer test series. England also bunch ODIs/T20s together and not tests , so he could play tests and not the other 2 no problem. If it was about having time off to rest etc them I'm all for it but it seems that when he does get time off like all the other Eng players who are qualified to play all 3 forms , he chooses to play IPL. I'm not begrudging him playing IPL (and any other T20 bash) or even choosing IPL over England but why say you want time off for rest etc and the time you get for rest you go and play more cricket then that time is not for rest is it?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 12:49 GMT)

I hate IPL, it is ruining cricket world over but if I were a player myself I would also need that great money which comes by playing in IPL with limited ability (all within 40 overs, you do need to stretch yourself much physically) & if that money is more than my entire year's income playing test cricket. In a player's perspective it is not wrong to earn more money, after all an average player is only playing for 15 years. The more they earn the better lives they can lead in future.

This is like a son wanting to marry a girl of his choice & the strict father saying you cannot. How moronic of ECB. They should handle players like BCCI which handles Sachin, Viru & Dhoni with freedom.

Posted by Venkat_Super_11 on (August 7, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

@RandyOz, couldn't agree more with you. They are indeed a laughing stock and you can never make them shut their mouths. Remember, the Oval match? After first day of England batting, all headlines and SKY sports commentary all were boasting of how great England were and SA's bowling was toothless. And what happened from next morning was history. Take out the immigrated players out of England squad and they will be down the table in Associates teams. They talk about Broad as if he was the wonderful bowler in the world. Don't they honestly know that he is no way near Dale Steyn or Morkel, let alone Tahir. Very funny they are, aren't they?

Posted by Min2_cric on (August 7, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

maybe KP had planned dat he would retire from odi team and when the team will lose frm WI, he would be called back by ECB and will be given the priority to choose his series..but due to bell (he played well in odis) his plan backfired...

Posted by AbrarAhmed on (August 7, 2012, 12:36 GMT)

@Hammond. If you're referring to Usman Kwajja, I woudl hardly classify him as an "import"

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 12:34 GMT)

Gary Kirsten made India No.1 in Tests & also made India World cup winners. He then politely went away to his native South Africa with all Indians respect. He is coaching South Africa to No.1 now. KP also made England No.1 with his superb batting. Maybe he too will go back to South Africa. What if KP plays next test against England as a South African? It would be funny. England would be vanquished if he does that & what better way to take revenge than joining opposite ranks?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

Australia and Andrew Symonds had to go their seperate ways and now England and KP have are heading down a similar path. It's like divorcing a super model with a bad attitude - you dont want to let go of something that hot, but in the end you just have no choice.

Posted by Beertjie on (August 7, 2012, 12:31 GMT)

KP only has at best 5 good years left, but his departure now will be good timing for all opponents, especially the Aussies as it will help equalize the current batting disparity between the teams. After England lose the Ashes next year without KP, I wonder what the odds are on them drafting him back for the return series? How many of these "principled" commentators will find reasons to justify such an "about-face" then?

Posted by cricTorque on (August 7, 2012, 12:29 GMT)

I think it is the IPL which gives the power like never before and not those hands in gloves institutions like FICA. In olden days, he would just been thrown out.

Posted by o-bomb on (August 7, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

"For me, the saddest part about all this is that the spectators just love watching me play..." I'm amazed they make batting helmets big enough to fit his head in.

Posted by jokerbala on (August 7, 2012, 12:26 GMT)

To all KP fans out here- Well, don't kid yourselves. He is nowhere near the dominating batsman he was at the beginning of his career ,this notwithstanding his fabulous century a few days back.When I saw him play in his first ODI series with Australia- 2005 was it? ,I was left with my mouth wide open wondering how the Saffers had not selected him in their team. Now I know why. I think Morgan (again an import, lol )would be his best replacement - he too is aggressive and very talented though not quiet as much.

Posted by pratit on (August 7, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

Same old problem. Everyone wants to play in the IPL and for that they want to forgo national duty. One solution was to carve out a separate window for the IPL. But a tournament stretching 2 months is just too long to be accommodated.

Posted by andysarmy on (August 7, 2012, 12:21 GMT)

Like the excellent leaders they are, Strauss and Flower want to keep brilliant men around them, regardless of personal affection. But Pietersen's individualism is so out of sync with the values that have made this team the best in the world that I wonder how they can keep him in the team. For much as England fans love watching Pietersen bat; in the long term, we prefer watching England win. I wish them the best of luck.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 12:12 GMT)

Get a life you all... IPL may have its distractors but no other T20 league in the can compete with IPL whether its Big Bash or a joke in terms of T20 championship played in England... How many cricketers shortened there careers coz of IPL... this are professionals with the best agents in the business and they know what IPL is all about!! Its intense competition mixed with glamour!! All other boards are jealous coz they cant create a product like IPL! KP has taken a smart decision to play in the IPL!! Whats wrong to choose which series he wants to play!! Wherever this man plays he's bound to create interest!! Its time ECB understands this and treats his best batsman with some respect!

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (August 7, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

The little grey men always have and always will try to stifle excellence and brilliance and opress those with talent. We have a great team which some segemnts of the population wish to do badly- so they can have a group to moan about. KP is by and large the victim of journalistic doublespeak. If he talks of media leaks then in the wake of the NOW scandals is anybody to say this is not the case. These days anybody who is a little better than the rest needs their own vermin catcher to deal with the media lowlifes.

Posted by IndiaNumeroUno on (August 7, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

IPL is here to stay and sooner all the international boards recognize this the better for them and their players... otherwise the only thing going down will their own team!

Posted by Nerav on (August 7, 2012, 11:56 GMT)

Dont know why everyone is having a go at KP. He clearly plays cricket for money, not for his country, thats why he came to England. So now he wants to make sure he and his family are well looked after once he retires....do u blame him? Playing the IPL he earns more than what he would playing cricket for England all year round. No to mention he gets to spend time with his family. If ECB and other boards do not realise this more players will joins suit.

Posted by Dashgar on (August 7, 2012, 11:52 GMT)

@jb633, not sure where you get your ideas. Garbage at national sport? Are you using a low gold medal count as your only evidence. Everyone knows that host nations over perform at Olympics. United Kingdom will be back down to 6th and 7th in the Olympics in 8 years when the hype wears off. And I'm tired of the insecure English calling Khawaja an import. If we imported him then what team did he play for in Pakistan? Lahore under 3s?

Posted by liz1558 on (August 7, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

KP had very little to do with England's rise to the top of the rankings in Tests. The key batsmen were Cook, Trott, Bell, and Prior. and the ICC player rankings reflected this until the last 6 months. It will be harder in 20/20 to fill his boots, but (in spite of his last innings) in Tests he's a busted flush; he should've been the best in the world consistently for the last 7 years but he's only been the best occasionally.

Posted by S4CHIN_IS_GOD on (August 7, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

@ Gerrardl - Do you work? Do you get paid for your job? Would you refuse a promotion or more money for the work you do? I wouldn't. Let me make it clear while Test is brilliant in England and Aus, the reality is IPL or T20 rise getting more popular than Test in the world. Its a Fact. I love test, but these player can earn a lifetime living playing these tournaments. These tournaments got sponsors more than England team can manage. ECB being stuborrn not to let Pietersen play. Let look at Gayle. At the end WICB realise that Gayle makes a difference to the team and everyman should be allowed to earn living using their talent.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

Yeah, the IPL has destroyed the true essence of cricket as a gentleman's sport. However, stating that its viewership is down is just misstating the facts.

Just as EPL, German Bundesliga and La Liga are important to maintain the viewership of Football as a sport, IPL has been an important catalyst in restoring some amount of viewership to cricket.

However, the most obvious thing is that the English top order would be found wanting without the presence of KP. His ability to change the game at any situation rivals the influence of Adam Gilchrist at his respective position.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 11:40 GMT)

Contrast KP's behaviour over the last week or so with that of Graeme Smith, whose wife recently gave birth to their first child, Cadence. Without fanfare of any kind, Smith dashed back to South Africa to be present at the birth of Cadence, then dashed back again (that's a round trip of over 22,000 miles), no doubt exhausted & fearfully short of sleep, in order to do what he regarded as his duty for his team-mates & South Africa. Did he complain, even once; & even after he must've been in considerable pain after injuring his knee while fielding on the third afternoon? No. Instead he played two typically obdurate & unselfish knocks, &, appreciating that both teams also have a duty to entertain, set a challenging declaration that kept interest in the game alive until the final few overs. Smith did what he regarded as his duty - to his family, his team-mates, his country & all of us who appreciate the value of cricket as a spectator sport - quietly, self-effacingly & with immense dignity.

Posted by Just_love_it on (August 7, 2012, 11:39 GMT)

Honestly ECB/England don't deserve a classic player like Kevin ! Such a shame that he is going through all this despite one of the best ever played for England.

Posted by D_Jardine on (August 7, 2012, 11:38 GMT)

Pietersen is quoted in the article above as saying -"there are other points I'm trying to sort out in the dressing room". So that indicates to me that he's not the adored teammate that some (prob including him) think he should be - however much they admire his remarkable batting. And I am wondering if Ravi Bopara's "personal reasons" for pulling out of the team for Headingly have something to do with his relationshipe with Pietersen. Bopara certainly wrote some pretty trenchant words about Pietersen in twitter exchanges with him while on the winter tour to Sri Lanka.

Posted by Chesty-la-roux on (August 7, 2012, 11:36 GMT)

Pietersen might switch back and play for South Africa in the Lords test.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 11:31 GMT)

Excellent as the sooner the South African stops playing for England the better! nothing but trouble and very selfish.

Posted by creekeetman on (August 7, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

@ jb633, if not much else, i agree with you that the ipl is ruiniung cricket. especially as none of the cricket boards seem capable or willing of working together.

Posted by JB77 on (August 7, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

@ Naresh28 - please don't use Hayden in the same sentence as Pietersen. Hayden's love of representing his country was apparent everytime he walked out to bat and everytime he spoke of playing the game. He was in it for his nation and not for money and fame. He's nothing like Pietersen. At all.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 11:16 GMT)

Pietersen and his ego both need to be sent packing. Nobody is bigger than the game. This muppet has consistently thought he was the greatest thing since sliced bread and he needs to be taken down a notch or two.

The ECB didn't learn their lesson when he was captain, hopefully they will now.

Cricket needs personalities, not egos. And anybody who puts earning money over playing for his country, should never play for his country again.

Posted by bharath74 on (August 7, 2012, 11:13 GMT)

As ENGLISH u guys are proud of EPL but u hate IPL. KP has had enough of english politics as they never speak their mind.

Posted by milesy100 on (August 7, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

Back in the past, players used to pick and choose their tours...I remember Gower, Gooch, Botham etc opting out of overseas tours at their own whim. Why does it have to be all or nothing now?

Posted by DannoTheManno on (August 7, 2012, 11:09 GMT)

Thats the problem with guns for hire.. they will go wherever the price is better

Posted by BellCurve on (August 7, 2012, 11:03 GMT)

Clearly KP is "special". He needs to be saved from himself. Does he not have an agent? He should not be allowed anywhere near the media. And under no circumstance should he be allowed to tweet. Best to lock him and put him in a straight jacket and only let him out to play.

Posted by sonicattack on (August 7, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

Dubious - well, I'm afraid that is true, no matter what you might wish to believe! I suspect that even those fans who dislike Pietersen will always want to watch him as he is such a fine player. England periodically gets itself into a bit of a mess with some players (as do other countries) - think Boycott, all those involved in dubious tours to Apartheid SA, and others like the patriotic Fred Trueman who refused to tour India!

Posted by gerrardl on (August 7, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

IPL is a flash in the pan... already viewership is down across the world. Ask any cricket lover what they remember, it'll always be a memorable test match century like the one Amla played at the Oval or KP played at Headingley... that's what remains, ask them what they remember about the IPL and it's the fake cheerleaders, countless TV ads and faked passion in all overseas players. It's a circus. Test cricket will stand the test of time. The IPL will go down, and so will the careers of many excellent players who make it their priority. They too will not be remembered. As an England fan, with be gutted to see our BEST player lost.

Posted by applethief on (August 7, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

He clearly doesn't have much respect for his audience - does he really think they're so stupid? "I never spoke to the media for one single second" - he's done nothing but!

Posted by Vilander on (August 7, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

Come to India without KP and get destroyed England..yes looking forward to it.

Posted by hyped on (August 7, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

i think kp's contract must have clause that he can miss only a selected no. of matches not as a whole but format wise.. that would really defuse the situation

Posted by jb633 on (August 7, 2012, 10:55 GMT)

@RandyOz, to be fair Australia is just a garbage nation at sport. Their cricket side is on par with maybe NZ, their rugby side is pretty average, football= poor, athletics= poor. England may be struggling in this series but excluding football we are in a great place. Just look at our performances in the olympics, quite simply sensational. I think if T20 cricket and the IPL continues to rob international cricket of its stars cricket will have little future in this country. I think the popularity of the olympics will have such a huge effect that athletics may become the summer sport and not cricket. I feel cricket as a game is in a really bad place and unless the ICC do something to accomadate the IPL then it will just go as a sport. The IPL is genuinley ruining cricket.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 10:53 GMT)

KP has caused problems everywhere he's played. He seems unable to grasp the fact that the game is bigger than what he is. Occasionally he plays a great innings but constantly he's causing problems. In the long term England will be better off without him.

Posted by shillingsworth on (August 7, 2012, 10:52 GMT)

@Stark62 - The ECB does accept the IPL, they have increased pay to centrally contracted players and allowed them them to participate in the IPL. England were staging May tests when the IPL came along and the agreement with the BCCI was that commitments to these would take precedence. As the English summer is short at the best of times, they cannot reschedule.

Posted by Hammond on (August 7, 2012, 10:51 GMT)

@RandyOz- very funny from a bloke that champions a Pakistani playing for Australia. The term hypocrite readily springs to mind.

Posted by baz72notout on (August 7, 2012, 10:49 GMT)

@creekeetman and all the naysayers: how can anybody say for sure that the loss of KP will not encourage some bright young hopeful on the county curcuit to become a match-changer? The sort of negative thinking that creeketman hopes we will all take on board ignores the fact that England have produced some dynamic cricketers who have knocked the stuffing out of the aussies, Botham and Flintoff to name two. England's faith in themselves is currently visible to all in the Olympics, so why should producing our own KP be impossible? Maybe he's hoping that KP will "do a Tony Greig" and join his lot in time for the Ashes?

Posted by Herbet on (August 7, 2012, 10:47 GMT)

God, stop being such a tart Kevin. He's taking being a prima donna to new levels. This would be bad enough at any time, but 2 thirds of the way through an important series that we are making a mess of, and just before a test we have to win, is inexcusable really. It appears he has reached a point where, like Flintoff a few years ago, his personality issues are creating debts that his talent cant pay off, and for somebody as talented as Pietersen, that is saying something. Harmony would be increased in the England team if he left, but talent would most certainly be reduced.

Posted by creekeetman on (August 7, 2012, 10:45 GMT)

@ randyoz, stop importing???... how do you expect the pom poms to win then.. lol

Posted by smudgemax on (August 7, 2012, 10:42 GMT)

Some of the comments on here are crazy. Is England a better team with KP? Of course they are, but would England be a bad side without him? Of course not. England's bowling attack may have been blunted so far this series, but some people on here have very short memories. It had been this bowling attack more than anything else that has delivered victories in recent series and not so much KP. I would love for the ECB to be flexible and accommodate him more but if he wants to pick and choose series that is going to cause understandable friction with the management and the team. He and the ECB need to make some compromises. In my humble opinion he should be in the 20/20 world cup squad and be able to play 20/20 cricket and not one day cricket but he must concede that he can't pick and choose his test series and put the IPL first before England.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (August 7, 2012, 10:40 GMT)

@JERARD. WELL OUT OF SA TEAM KALLIS , DE VILLIRS , STEYN , MORKEL , DUMINY,MERCHANT DE LANGE (SELECTED FOR ENG TOUR BUT INJURED & GET BACK HOME) PLAYED IN THIS YEARS IPL . SMITH ALSO HAS PLAYED FIRST 4 IPL EDITIONS . HE MISSED THIS YEAR IPL BECAUSE OF INJURY .

Posted by allblue on (August 7, 2012, 10:40 GMT)

People need to acknowledge the wider role of the ECB. In the 90s English cricket was in a parlous state. The national side was useless, the set-up was a shambles, and very few children were playing. Since then they have rebuilt the foundations of the game in this country and secured its future. Some comments here about "pointless Test matches" in May but it is the TV contract and income from the national side that funds central contracts and all the ECB's work down through the Lions, the Counties and their academies, age-group and women's cricket right down to coaching kids at local club level. They're not perfect, but deserve credit for reviving English cricket. KP's fortune has been made as an England player, but if he feels he wants to move on so be it. We'll miss him out in the middle for sure, but there are wider issues at stake, and like most England fans it seems, I'm with the ECB here. The health of the game, by which I mean the whole game down to school level, is paramount.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 10:36 GMT)

To all the English patriots who want KP to play for tests for England rather than IPL, what about your own EPL, which is taking your team 'backwards', according to Beckenbauer?

Posted by SuperSharky on (August 7, 2012, 10:35 GMT)

I prefer The West Indies way of handling such a situation. If their top players wants to go and play IPL, they don't stop their Test series, but rather use the opportunity to build on their depth in talent. The West Indies have breed a lot of international-experience talented players that can fill another players role. They just keep it "irie" and then everybody feels "irie". When the whole squad is back in town, they all understands that they will be picked on merit. It's brilliant and work positively both ways.

Posted by Smahuta on (August 7, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

KP is now wishing he stayed in SA and played for his own country. 4 year wait to switch back? lol. Pity is, he is not good enough to get into SA's top 5 anyway. He might get a look in at 6 or 7 though. This is what happens when you have turncoats in your team, you never know when they are going to turn on you as well. Usually its about politics or money or a mixture of both. To be fair to him, I dont see why he shoudnt be able to pick what formats he will and wont play in. Seems like a policy set in stone without thought put into it, which is backfiring and will continue to do so.

Posted by mysay on (August 7, 2012, 10:29 GMT)

What is Kev talking about. Leaking private converations, C'mon after freely feeding the media about the row with Fletcher & Moores. If he want's to quit for IPL, go ahead, but be a man about it and say it, rather than trying to give excuses for wanting to do it, which is also 100% for the money. Just one good series and the Kav crap starts to fly.

Posted by Syed_imran_abbas on (August 7, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

IPL has really changed the priorities of players. many of them are preferring money over national sides. look at malinga as he doesnt wana play test matches anymore. but i think most of them would end up like chris gayle realising that playing for national side is greater pride than money. but i can understand kind of unwelcoming behaviour kp has been facing with. He reminds me of shoaib akhter who always wanted board to pemper him. but obviously but both are exceptional talent as well.

Posted by ian_ghose on (August 7, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

Aaah KP Pietersen - the Zlatan Ibrahmovic of cricket. Similar physical staure and similar bouts of self-aggrandizing ego. Both have been labelled 'mercenaries' more than once in their lives and have been accused of 'selfish' play. Yet both remain absolutely box-office in their respective sports and treates to watch when in full cry. Add to the mix, a notoriously, suffocatingly, and sadly instituonally xenophobic British media and we had a time-bomb on our hands. After ousting the likes of Fabio Capello, perpetually tormenting Mario Balotelli and demonizing Luis Suarez (as opposed to John Terry), it was only a matter of time, when the media turned its attention back to baiting the 'Saffer' in the mix. Its true that KP doesn't endear themselves to many, but the British media really doesn't leave a stone underturned to undermine a 'foreigner' on English shores, no matter whose side he plays for.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

I just read this article and the number of time Pieterson says "me" and "I" is telling. That's all I saw "me' and "I". This guy is something else.

Posted by StevieS on (August 7, 2012, 10:17 GMT)

It would be good for the integrity of the game if he never played for England again, the rules need rewritten so people actually have play for their country or don't play at all.

Posted by Dubious on (August 7, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

"For me, the saddest part about all this is that the spectators just love watching me play."

... Yuck.

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 7, 2012, 10:11 GMT)

@ satish619chandar: I would add one more thing: On paper IPL has nothing to do for whats happening between KP and ECB (likewise GAYLE and WICB). But in the backyard of their mind IT IS. Remember Lasith Malinga stopped playing Tests for SL.

Posted by creekeetman on (August 7, 2012, 10:10 GMT)

lol @ those who suggest that morgan or even bopara should replace kp... seriously lol... going to enjoy the demise of the pom poms.

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 7, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

@satish619chandar : I am not blaming the BCCI & IPL for everything. Like I said in my comment: ECB Should be PRACTICAL in decision making. IPL gives more money than any board gives its players for national duties. Any cricketer who has got talent and is in demand will be lured into this, isn't it(PRACTICALLY). But theoretically, we talk about national duties and all. Lets accept one fact: CRICKETING life (or for any sports), the player retires around 35-40.

Posted by warnerbasher on (August 7, 2012, 10:04 GMT)

In a way the removal of this this self absorbed man would be a benefit to the English cricket team although not necessarily the crowds that watch England play. His great performances are becoming more infrequent and generally happen when the sting has been taken away from the opposition bowlers by the performances of Cook, Trott and to a lesser extent Strauss. Never seems to score many coming in at 2 for 20 but 2 for 200 is a different story.

Posted by Haleos on (August 7, 2012, 9:59 GMT)

@ Clan_McLachlan - India needs talented bowlers. We have enough batting talent who can not break into the team.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 9:55 GMT)

Dear Editor, my name is KP and I love media attention and being in the spotlight. If I am not in the news then i'm very unhappy. I am an attention seeker that loves all the attention given to me.Regards KP.LOL

Posted by Riderstorm on (August 7, 2012, 9:52 GMT)

Remembering all that happened with KP, ECB and England Dressing room. It is obvious that there is huge communication gap between KP and the rest of them. I guess its time all the parties involved sit together and chart the way forward. If KP and ECB feel that they can't go on like this, it's better KP moves on and finds his interests elsewhere.

Posted by Stark62 on (August 7, 2012, 9:49 GMT)

Well, every other nation has to reschedule to accommodate the ipl, plus there is a high chance, that the Kiwis might not be playing their full strength squad during next years tour due to clash against ipl.

I think it's time, Eng accepts the ipl and let the players participate or increase the money, so they won't have to think about ipl or any other money league.

Posted by India_boy on (August 7, 2012, 9:46 GMT)

lol...ECB...are you kidding us. Why did you send KP to open the innings in the 2nd inns. against SA? because you know and realise that he is the only player who could win you this match.Rest could only draw this for you. Even after this realization, you fail to understand his importance in your team? Also, when your bowlers fail like they have since the last India tour, KP is the only one who will win you matches, otherwise you will end up playing high scoring draws, your bowlers fail to take 20 wkts already! KP is to Eng what Gayle is to WI and Murali is to SL - KP fan!

Posted by Noball_Specialist on (August 7, 2012, 9:43 GMT)

Peterson is becoming a Shoaib Malik. For the ongoing prosperity and team spirit, he must be dropped.

Posted by Rajeev129 on (August 7, 2012, 9:39 GMT)

I am great fan of him. I would love to see him play in any format. But i will be really happy if he quits England. This stupid board does't know the importance of KP. They are the no.1 team in tests, because their back bone is KP. Thank god the greatest batsman of all time is playing for Indian Team. For any player test cricket is important, Sachin is taking sufficient break from National team but he never skipped a major series in any format including IPL, thats what KP is asking here. Had Sachin also be born in England or migrated to England he would have retired long back.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 9:35 GMT)

Another Gayle-like drama!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

Instead of remaining in the country and fighting for national spot like everybody else you chose to abandon your country and in the process rubbishing it as to get favour with new compatriots. As they say, "grass is not always greener on the other side". I am thankful that KP chose England because he has proved to be an attention seeking prima donna.

Posted by Supa_SAFFA on (August 7, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

The loss of KP would be catastrophic for England. No further debate there. I have to ask, though, what it really meant for SA to lose KP. The answer is: Not much!! SA is a no1 contender with or without KP. And which batsman would KP have kept out of the current SA side today, had he chosen to remain a countryman? Not captain courageous Smith, not top-scorer Petersen nor legendary all-rounder Kallis at the top of the order! Not triple centurion Amla, nor wicketkeeper and superstar batsman in all forms of the game, De Villiers. Not versatile Rudolph who can bat at 6 as easily as he could open the innings when needed. Perhaps Duminy as the part-time spinner and glue of the lower order would be under most threat were KP still a South African. Perhaps the cynics could could unfairly claim that Duminy's spot would be safe due to the racial quota system. But the following should by now be clear to all Englishmen: It's not a racial quota system that kept KP from playing for South Africa today!

Posted by RandyOZ on (August 7, 2012, 9:19 GMT)

First Greig leaving now KP. Look we all know the talent is ultra thin in England, possibly non-existent, but to keep importing players is just leaving a huge stain on the game. England should demote themselves to associate level because they are the laughin stock of world cricket.

Posted by RandyOZ on (August 7, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

This is what happens when you import players. Eventually their true alliegences come out. The talent is ultra thing in England, we all know that, but please guys stop importing, you are leaving an awful stain on world cricket.

Posted by liaqathussain on (August 7, 2012, 9:16 GMT)

kp says its not abt money then why is he so admen t to ipl and bbl. etc

it nothing but the money,,

thats the truth with out england KP was nothing and will end up nothing,

Posted by keptalittlelow on (August 7, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

England could well have lost the second test at Headingley if it was not for KP's brilliant 149, the trouble is he has never gelled with the ECB culture.

Posted by jb633 on (August 7, 2012, 9:10 GMT)

Well this definitvley signals the end to England's time in the sun. Throughout 2012 we have been shocking and although I hate to agree with the likes of Rahul-cricket and Randy Oz I can no longer ignore the realities of our situation. Start with Strauss. He is surely done, he just cannot play spin to save his life. It is like waiting for a car crash watching him play any spinner. Cook, still a class act. Trott, starting to fade in the second half of his career.. 4. KP ( The best ex England player, he no longer wants or needs England) 5. Bell ( Has yips against the doosra). 6. Taylor ( looks a good prospect but not seen enough to make any comment)> Prior ( class). 8. Bresnan ( not quick enough at this level, will get mauled in India). 9. Broad ( lack of pace is massivley worrying, yes he picked up 5 yesterday but still has gone long periods without looking menancing 10. Swann ( has been found out by right handers, only looks threatning against teams with a load of lefties) 11. Jimmy cls

Posted by Harmony111 on (August 7, 2012, 9:10 GMT)

A QUESTION TO ALL ENG FANS & OTHER FANS: KP wants to focus on Tests and wants to reduce his work load by not playing ODIs. All the time it is said that Tests are the real Cricket but are slowly dying. When this guy wants to continue in Tests why is he being asked to play in ODIs compulsorily too? If the fans see the Tests, ODIs and T20s are 3 different streams altogether then why bunch them together as far as availability goes? Gayle, Sangakkara arrived for their Tests straight from T20s and were criticized for not respecting Test Cricket but when KP wants to have enough time to prepare for Tests he is being criticized too ---- and in fact is on the verge of retirement. What do you fans want from your player? Are they circus animal who will do as you want? Do you want to break and shatter your players' bodies, temperament, aims and their very faith in the establishment?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

I am quite astonished, really. Am I really supposed to believe that the ECB are so naive as to take on mercenaries and believe their oaths of eternal allegiance? Of course these oaths are only good until someone pays more.

The ECB knew (or should have known) that much. Obviuously KP helped England more than once, but the way he played showed more than once that it was always about himself and not about the team.

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (August 7, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

I really don't know why ECB and the english media is treating him so badly? He is your best batsman and if he wants to prioritize his schedule whats wrong?

If he goes after lord's tests it would entirely be England's loss and KP's....

And fella's lets not get Sachin here......he's something else all together....in a league of his own....

Posted by siddhartha87 on (August 7, 2012, 9:04 GMT)

KP should play for South Africa if he doesn't wants to play in England.Amla,kallis KP and AB in middle order

Posted by fineprint on (August 7, 2012, 9:02 GMT)

194 comments by now, and we want media to leave KP alone ?? another interesting thing - majority are 'hate' comments

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 9:01 GMT)

It would be really sad for England and the Cricketing World if the Brilliant careers like KP's ends in this manner. The ECB needs to realize that they have to stop bossing around if they want England to be a successful side.

Posted by palla.avinash on (August 7, 2012, 8:59 GMT)

My brain says well ECB drop him for 3rd test and ask England to pick some one and win the test match and prove kp is no bigger than team, while my heart says south africa officially declared no 1 test team any way.ECB should try to rebuild team without kp but in india series with without i can be sure ashwin,mishra and ojha will run through england line up.

Posted by liz1558 on (August 7, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

KP has been chasing glory ever since he left South Africa, so the bright lights and big pay (be serious Kev) of the IPL would be irresistible to him. As he has moved from one arena to another, there has been a trail of personal slights along the way, where he (in his own mind) has always been in the right and everyone else, standing unjustly in his way, in the wrong. English international cricket has given him the adulation he craves, and now it's all dried up. Time to move on; the IPL is calling and how can he resist? Billions of eyes all on him, as India now takes him to its heart. The down side is burnt bridges. He has burned his bridges with South Africa, and now he is burning bridges with England. Unless he backs down, there's no way back into international cricket from here. In fact his first class career is probably over in England.

Posted by Baundele on (August 7, 2012, 8:56 GMT)

ECB's rule of making ODIs mandatory for T20 selection is pure rubbish. KP just does not want to buy that rule. Speaking one's mind about what he thinks is right is not an ego problem. Imposing rubbish rules and then persisting with them neglecting the reality is the real ego thing. As is evident from Bopara's case, the best performer in the ODI series suddenly had to drop from the test team after a single match where everyone failed. The management is the main problem.

Posted by AnandCNair on (August 7, 2012, 8:54 GMT)

Give him his space & let him get his talk done with ECB. I am very sure (as you all are), the real things which he will talk about to ECB won't come out & instead they will sell it to some newspaper & make money out of it. He is very write & correct in asking, of how did this behind the door talk came out in public when it was supposed to be completely private & under wraps. No one is looking at it this way, he came to England to play cricket, was drafted into the English team & he did make a good name for him, but that's simply by playing cricket & doing what he belived he is good at. He is still there & doing it right, what happened to guys like Flintoff where is he now? Hailed as son of England & all that, but went in to oblivion. We must notice a difference in him & Strauss, Strauss is a typical follower & Kev is not, he questioned a lot of things during his captaincy & he was outsted, but the same will not happen to Strauss since he has not been winining since India's tour.

Posted by chathuradil on (August 7, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

@satish619chandar: u got it wrong pal. Malinga played tests until 2010 and declared his retirement from the test format not only due to injuries or inconsistency of his fitness. but also, at the time being he was a part of IPL and has started to chase the money behind it. Its true that SLC has not been treating well enough to players. But as a true sportsman he should have given no1. spot to the country. He has over 100 wkts in 30 matches and could have gone pass 200+ easily, if he played test up to now. dear friend, dont you think Gayle had the same issue. he is also chasing IPL blindly. Happy that the CG's problem has been solved now and windies back on track :). All this stories started with the IPL. Everyone knows that. Ask from your self too. You'll have the same answer. I hope KP will see the truth. Still time is there. I really dont wanna see great test players and test cricket die like this.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:49 GMT)

hope sri lanka cricket learns a thing or two from the ECB !!

Posted by Hesperis on (August 7, 2012, 8:47 GMT)

It is indeed difficult. All individuals have the right to earn as much as they feel their talent is worth and clearly the riches of the IPL will ensure financial security for KP and his family for life. Conversely his current employer (ECB) has the right to dictate where he works. I can't really go to my boss and say "Tell you what, I'm going to work for Jones Brothers down the road for a month because they will pay me a lot....give me a month off but I'll be back soon". I would have to make a choice and basically so does KP. English cricket will go on without him. The sad thing is that in years to come will be really look back at am innings played for the Stripey Pyjama Tigers in the IPL with the same degree of pride and satisfaction as a century in a Test Match. Anyhow he (and his employer) need to bring this saga to an end...and quickly. It is turning into a soap opera.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 8:45 GMT)

From Eng's point of view. I think the main point Eng fans feel here is that KP said he wants rest time and then it seems all he wants to do is prioritise IPL over England. Had he been more honest I feel he'd have got more respect from our fans. I'm actually wondering if Eng could have him as a freelance player. I heard Vaughan talking about the drawbacks for this idea but there are ways in which it could benefit both parties. If England say to KP , yes you can have the NZ series off but if another player comes in and does well we will stick with him. I wonder if the fact that he would not be guaranteed a place in the more prestigious Ashes series might make him think a little about the risk of taking time out

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 8:45 GMT)

From a KP stance. Well I don't know what was leaked etc but can understand his grievances here. Also I still wonder if he has an issue with being fined for the Nick Knight remark which I can certainly understand. The other point I have to say here is why have England scheduled this NZ series so early in the season? We usually play our 1st test series in May so it does seem that the ECB were at best short sighted. On this one I can now start to empathise with KPs plight. I was originally presumed that the NZ test series was to be in May as usual so this does certainly make me see it in a slightly different light

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

@satish619chandar on (August 07 2012, 05:14 AM GMT) I think that while that doesn't sit too badly with me the problems are 1 - What if next year IPL take up interest in more English players? Just say for example they want Swann/Finn/Broad - and I know others will respond with their "Why would we want them?" remarks - then surely they would also want time off and can England afford to let numerous players play IPL. Re resting him for IPL period - the problem would be in use of the word "resting" . If he is playing IPL that is not resting so kind of defeats the object.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 7, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

@jmcilhinney on (August 07 2012, 04:48 AM GMT) I agree with you. The timing is again really not good at all. It does seem that he's waited until after a top inns so he feels his words have more affect. Had he started talking after the 1st test where he got out cheaply it would have been different.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

Wow what a shame , I can understand if Indian folks here have problems with KP but some Brit chaps don't appreciate him either. He is a gifted player..... Bell cook trott and Strauss all r good but KP is different animal altogether. He makes cricket a fun to watch game. With all those less agreesive players England needs someone like KP if they want to convert more draws to victories

Posted by ChobeMonster on (August 7, 2012, 8:41 GMT)

He's a divisive person - always has been - which is why SA didn't want him and he has never really settled at a county. Great player though he is, it will be in the long term interests of England for him to move on to other things so that we can build a team that is more committed - and hopefully more English. His behaviour must be impacting the dressing room badly.

Posted by mikeindex on (August 7, 2012, 8:41 GMT)

Having listened to the original interview it strikes me that this piece exaggerates wildly. Jonesy mate, great satire as always - especially nice use of 'invaluable'

Posted by wnwn on (August 7, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

Although Kevin Pietersen is a great player i think everyone is fed up of always seeing him in the headlines so it's time to let him go and play IPL, BBL, BPL etc and replace him with Morgan/Bopara or try Compton. At least their won't be a new Kevin Pietersen saga every week.

Posted by letsgoproteas on (August 7, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

I would hate to have this guy in our team, but he is the only star in that england setup. Lets be honest here, he is the only one in that team who makes things happen and can literally turn a game around. None of those other players have any x-factor.

Be a major loss for them if he moves on to better things.

Posted by ultimatewarrior on (August 7, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

kp is john mcenroe or shane warne of England extremely talented but at the same time quite controversial...definitely someone in ECB is doing wrong by media leaks and helping to end his career....cricket's loss and nobody will gain from this entire episode...

Posted by gerrardl on (August 7, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

How sad. I'm both for and against KP on this one. There are way too many meaningless international series that take place these days, the recent Australian 5 match ODI series a classic example. It's all about the money for the ECB, not the conditioning of its players. Good on KP for saying something about it! However, it's sad that he is doing the same thing! Seriously? Wanting to play in the IPL and then saying it's not about the money?! C'mon Kevin! This cheapened format of the game, which has seen interest fall all over the world, except India, where overseas players fake passion for their franchises in an attempt to justify the masses of cash they earn, surely this is not worth giving up your test career. The ECB is the best paying board in the game, with KP one of the highest earners. So sorry it's come to this. From both sides!

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (August 7, 2012, 8:36 GMT)

I guess he thinks he's England's best spinner, and wants Swann's place in the team. That's the only reason Swann didn't play in the last game.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

Kevin's Issue is gonna be like Chris Gayle and WICB...ECB will only realise the importance of Kevin Petersen when they will go down to No. 5 or No.6 Test rankings. Forget about the ODIS n T20s...Hope this issue will be resolved asap...

Posted by tinysteelorchestra on (August 7, 2012, 8:26 GMT)

This is such a tricky subject. On one hand of course no player should be bigger than the team, and in principal one could argue that players shouldn't be allowed to pick and choose when they play or not.

However, the international schedule is ridiculous these days and in some respects I am surprised that more players are not burning out. It would certainly be a shame to lose KP - I think certainly England would have less to frighten opposition teams, not to mention the brilliant entertainment he gives when on song.

Hopefully this can be sorted out without us losing surely the most exciting batsman to play for England since Botham.

Posted by sirvivfan on (August 7, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

Ever since KP was removed from captaincy, ECB and KP were on a collision course. ECB is run by dinosaurs, very colonial, that's why certain type of South Africans fit into this set up, apart from KP. KP is different.Trotts of this world are better suited to play. KP is misunderstood but the establishment hates successful players who challenge them and the system. To be honest I am surprised he has lasted this long in the team. I cannot see how KP can stay in the team when he suspects some of them not supporting him. His performance at Hedingley was a direct consequence of making a statement to the ECB....this his make up. The innings was daring as well as carefree, which comes from wanting to prove a point!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

kp s the best england criketer, atleast in the modern era... it wud b a grt loss fr eng team if kp s nt der fr him... i wonder if kp cant play in eng, whether he will get a chance to play fr south africa, his birth place..... i wud love to c kp in intrnatnl cricket than in ipl, even though i am frm india....

Posted by jmcilhinney on (August 7, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

OK, I just watched the video of KP's news conference and I take back my comment about him trying to use his performance here as leverage. He kept saying that he didn't want to talk about it until after Lords and the journalists kept at him with apparently no interest in talking to him about the great game he'd just played. I think he should have just walked out and left them to themselves.

Posted by MartinC on (August 7, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

This is pretty simple to me. I can totally understand whey Pietersen wants to play the full IPL - circa $2M is a lot of money for anyone and he is closer to the end of his career than the start. He is cashing in and good luck to him.

Meanwhile he is the ONLY England player commanding the kind of money in IPL that would make him want to break or amend his central contract. Allowing special rules for Pietersen would also create a very dangerous precedent and break further dressing room relations.

Bottom line both Pietersen and the ECB are right in their positions and the inevitable is that Pietersen as probably played either his last or next to last Test for England. We will survive without him - be a worse team in the short term but I will argue possibly better in the long term.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:21 GMT)

I dont think IPL or any form of cricket is to be blamed for that. We do not know what is the situation in the English dressing room. His complain is with ECB and the English colleagues. He has not utterred a word against IPL.

If KP goes, it would be a bad miss for Test Cricket. He is one batsman who I feel, if he continues for 15-20 years, has the ability to make huge batting records in the current crop of players.

Posted by EdGreen on (August 7, 2012, 8:21 GMT)

KP is an entertainer - and has proved a winner, by all accounts the guy's a popular member of the Surrey dressing room (where quite a few odd characters have found a new home and a new lease of life over the years).

He's a guy who puts bums on seats - and sky dishes on rooves, and in recent years he's learnt to pretty much keep his mouth out of the media.

Great captains and managers handle these characters - that's how the Windies and Aussies dominated - that's how the great Yorkshire and Surrey sides dominated - there were members of the 1960 Yorkshire side who barely spoke to one another from year to year off the pitch - but my 'eck did they play for themselves, their team-mates and the white rose on their jumper.

Posted by NkosiEcosse on (August 7, 2012, 8:19 GMT)

@ John Welsford:

Of course KP is brash, he comes from the colonies, I lived in his country of birth for near 30 years and some of the brashness adhered to me. It is not ill manners but the fact that they see things the way they see them with no PC bullshit. A spade is a spade not a shovel. England is very fortunate to have KP as if it was not for the SA quota system implemented by their ANC government he would have easily have been playing for them. The ECB is full of old fuzzy duddys that do not seem to have realised that the game of cricket they remember has evolved and the IPL is a major attraction for top class players who can make a lot of money, more than the ECB would give them. Or maybe they don't want to relinquish control of cricket like the they have the "Empire". Well the news is it is already too late, the empire is gone and the control of cricket is now in India

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

I also want to say that Cook and Trott are ten times the batsman that KP is. If it came down to a choice of who you'd want batting for your life...well it wouldn't be KP. He is not a great batsman. People should start realizing this.

Posted by Naresh28 on (August 7, 2012, 8:18 GMT)

Just like Oz unearthed Hayden, England have Pieterson. A great batsman - some of these cricketers need to do what is best for their families. Pieterson could walk into a SA team any day. Making him feel unwelcome is no good.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:15 GMT)

When KP first started playing for England and was hailed as the next "great thing" I made several predictions and comments about him. I stated that he was a selfish attentiong seeking player and only ever made runs when his place in the team was in doubt. I also stated that he was overrated. Good to see my predictions coming true yet again. Last month he made headlines because he wanted to be in the limelight and now here he has done it again. Anyone get the feeling that KP doesn't like it when other cricket stories are top stories and he then needs to implement some kind of one upmanship in order to grab the headlines back? yep well you are not alone. I really hope they do drop him because in reality he is a medicre batsman at best and one who only does well when it suits him.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (August 7, 2012, 8:10 GMT)

The cracks I have been talking about in "team England" are now starting to get a bit deeper and a bit wider. As an England fan, this is concerning, but hardly surprising. If I have been saying it for months. It's no surprise that its happening now, against quality opposition. These things get exposed when we thigns get a tiny bit tough. It seems the media and a lot of fans got ahead of themselves about England's performance. it seemed that every post or article had to make reference to "#1 in the world" and " Englands amazing strength in depth". Well we'll lose this series, and due to rain yesterday it wont be 3-0. We'll lose the #1 ranking and will have performed worse in that position than India did (and didn't we crow this time last year!). And with Pieterson gone, our batting will be as fragile as pint glass. Our bowlers gave already gone that way, with broad and Brsenan aneamic and with Swann dropped. Indeed, Bad times ahead for England fans like me.

Posted by timtom on (August 7, 2012, 8:09 GMT)

KP has been the best player for England since his debut for his attractive stroke and years later will be regarded as legend for ENGLAND miles ahead of COOK, STRAUSS, TROTT etc who all play like tradional english players - BORING. He brings that spunk that english team lacks. Interestingly onlY KP with all his flair can make such requests (or demand) with ECB to consider. None of his team mates can even think of it as that would be the end of their international career effectively next day since in spite of good records they have no case to present...KP is special and shud be given special treatment...

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 8:09 GMT)

Quite why Pietersen is so intent on playing "circus cricket" I don't know. He might make a few bucks but ending his Test career will be something he'll regret for the rest of his life.

Time for Eoin Morgan to step up to the plate.

Posted by Somerset-Richard on (August 7, 2012, 8:03 GMT)

Prodigiously talented cricketer who has, lets face it, played some monumental innings for England just when we needed them, but I suspect he's not a great bloke. The situation is quite simple really; Pietersen loves money (which is fine) and sees a small window of opportunity to earn lots of it (which is also fine). Cricket is, however, a team game. So we are where we are: let Pietersen and England cut their ties with each other, before the final test match v SA. As English cricket fans let's politely thank him for all the runs that he's scored for us but let's tell him that if he goes, that there's no coming back. Lets hope that he also politely thanks England for giving him an enormous stage to play on since 2005. Wonder if he'll turn up playing against England wearing a Springbok tattoo in a couple of years when he doesn't command quite as much money at the IPL?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 7:59 GMT)

KP you're a legend, no other cricketer in this day and age has grabbed so much media attention over retirement, it just goes to show how much presence you have off the field too. You spark an aura where you're, be it off or on the field and that is one thing which we will miss if you retire form any form of cricket. Whatever you do, I wish you all the best with your future.

Posted by jonesy2 on (August 7, 2012, 7:59 GMT)

the funniest thing, the absolute funniest thing about this is that he is an invaluble player not worth a penny and thinks he is a star

Posted by Poodie on (August 7, 2012, 7:57 GMT)

He can blame the media all he likes but KP causes trouble everywhere he goes, and he loves the media attention. It's only his incredible talent that has kept him around this long. It's Englands decision to work out if his abilites outweigh his disruptive influence. There is no hiding from the fact that he is a self-centered jackass. It's just a pity that england would be so much weaker without him.

Posted by jonesy2 on (August 7, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

if the ECB dont boot him out of cricket then they are a bigger joke than he is

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 7:49 GMT)

I am a pakistan team fan but i am also one of the biggest KP fans and i think KP had enough of this england drama. If KP leaves, not only england will loose its biggest star but cricket will also loose one of the most Dashing cricketers of modern era!!!!

Posted by Narkovian on (August 7, 2012, 7:48 GMT)

This has been brewing for years. Remember the debacle when KP was Captain ! Who was it who blabbed to the media then ? You simply cannot have one man, however talented, dictating to ECB when he wants to play and when he doesn't. Looks like the dressing room would be happier if he wasn't there.. and that's what counts. Bye Bye KP. Sooner you go the better. Enjoy the 20 over "thrash about" in India. I'm sure you'll enjoy the money.. probably enough to buy a nice Estate in South Africa ?

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 7:48 GMT)

I dont know about you guys, but I'm sick to the back teeth of English cricket news being dominated by stories by or about KP. He is but one member of a selected, well paid, cossetted team of people whose job just happens to be playing cricket. If he thinks he is so important that he can dictate to the people who pay his not inconsiderable wages when and where to play, then he's deluding himself.. Tell him to put his hand into a bucket of water, then take it out again, Does the water not flow back into the space his hand once occupied ? No man is indispenable. Having said that... of course all this KP furore was yesterday's news... He'll probably have changed his mind again by today.. and he'll no doubt change it again the day after, etc etc etc...Just so long as he keeps PIETERSEN in the news

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 7:47 GMT)

ECB: Just let your players play in the IPL and make some money.

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (August 7, 2012, 7:45 GMT)

England need Pietersen for the upcoming T20 World Cup, the 2015 ODI World Cup and Test cricket up the end of the double Ashes series in early 2014. Around that he should be allowed to play a full IPL season if he wishes. All this talk about setting a precedent and players opting out of tours .... if he doesnt want to play in some then there will be queue of players who do. The only rule should be that if you make yourself unavailable and someone else comes in and performs then dont expect your place back as a matter of right. Right thats the scheduling fixed .... the fact that Pietersen's personality rubs the rest of the squad (and world) up the wrong way. Sorry, i have no answer for that.

Posted by Porky_PigTheToon on (August 7, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

@ Those who say there should be a separate window for IPL. I somewhat agree with them. But this can never happen as other nations who have started their personal leagues like BPL, SLPL, (even Pakistan's league in making) & Big Bash, they will all demand for separate windows. This situation has become a kind of dead-lock which is unlikely to be solved. So what should be done ? I give credit to BCCI for being STRICT in this regard, It never allows its current players to play for other nation's leagues (Regular players of Indian team play only for India and IPL or in other words where BCCI want them to play). Only solution to this problem is Every Board should be strict in decision making. If KP wants to go, let him. One who can't be loyal to his nation, should be kicked out. And btw, KP is NOT even an English, so whatever he doing is for his personal benefit. This is what happens when you import players.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

Well "POLITICS" does "DESTROYS" not only to a good Cricketer but in any Sports Sportsperson. Self also had experienced and toking straight that self have played good cricket for Clubs, and last was one of the Dubai based Company when offered to work and play, but the harrowing experience I had, still feeling the heat, why? coz A family Pudding guy comes in the team and all of a sudden captains the side without knowing ABC about the game. I am sure what talented Kevin Pietersen must be going through in the Claustrophobic dressing room or the media or crooked selectors inspite giving best for England in all formats. He may be arrogant, but giving his best on field not applauded, shows the cowardness from the opposition point of view which is not a good sign for England Cricket. May ALMIGHTY SAVES KP is my wish.

Posted by CustomKid on (August 7, 2012, 7:38 GMT)

Do the media simply target one person and tee off regardless of truth? I don't know but I would have thought there are bigger fish to fry in the tabloid crazed UK, starting with EPL and it's goings on.

KP plays his best when he's challenged, not by his opponents but those who make rules which apply to all players that he wants to break.

I can't help feel that if he simply kept his mouth closed and treated the media with respect, hard to do I know but if you don't give them what they want ie attitude, brashness, ego, etc etc they're simply not going to be interested. A cameraman rocks up, smile for him and pose. A journalist hits you up, give him some info, do the totally opposite to what they're looking for and you'll soon be left a lone.

The problem is KP can't. He needs to feed the beast which is his ego, it's his fuel supply. As long as he needs that fuel supply to perform he'll always be a target. I'd change in a heart beat if it meant a 12-15 yr intnat cricket career.

Posted by Jerard on (August 7, 2012, 7:33 GMT)

Yes the problem is IPL, that said how many South Africans play in the IPL? And how many of those South Africans are in the current test squad touring England in an aim to become the number one test side? The point I am trying to make is that playing for your country should be an honour and one that you shouldn't pass up. Surely you can't pick and choose when you want to play, and what tours you want to go on?

Posted by Pablo123 on (August 7, 2012, 7:30 GMT)

What a tool. He could have formed a legendary status, now he is just going to go down in history as a swashbuckling trouble maker. A Fool.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 7:27 GMT)

Yep time for him to go for good I think - we'll forget him soon enough, but he'll miss the international spotlight for sure. Just another IPL circus basher.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 7, 2012, 7:27 GMT)

@chathuradil : Gayle Malinga? Gayle was not allowed to play.. One thing.. Can't a team play for one series without a Gayle or a KP? Give chance to other players.. You still got 10 more players.. Allow the player to do what he wants.. This is not a army.. Cricket is a business mate.. ECB makes money using KP.. But won't allow KP to earn on his own? Malinga is entirely out of this.. He was never test match fit and retired at prompt time to maintain his body.. Hadn't he retired from tests, he might have retired from all formats of game by now..

Posted by Clan_McLachlan on (August 7, 2012, 7:26 GMT)

Poor old KP. Perhaps he should try moving countries again? India and Australia could use a talented middle order batsman. He could relocate to Sydney or Mumbai, spend a year or two getting citizenship (and playing as much IPL as he wants) and still have a couple good years of Test cricket left in him.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 7, 2012, 7:24 GMT)

@The_boundary_lurker: Niot manipulating the public opinion.. The public opinion was created by the "leaks" from the ECB and not by its own.. If media want to create KP as the villan of English cricket, it is fine.. KP can live a life without even turning out to England mate.. He is talented and his talent will be rewarded anywhere in the world.. ECB is no more his boss but a employee.. Had he born in England and played there, he might have been different.. ECB just hired him to play and to dictate terms on him, they should not.. Fortunately, Trott and Prior were blocked from playing T20 by ECB and hence, they might work there for some more time..

Posted by Haleos on (August 7, 2012, 7:22 GMT)

@ Jack_Tka - The problem may not increase for ECB. Barring the 2 players you mentioned none of the others are desired in IPL. Even though England in No 1 in T20 the individual players are not that great playing in the sub sontinent. England team itself will loose its top ranking come this september.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 7, 2012, 7:20 GMT)

@Jack_Tka : It all comes down to this.. Blame BCCI and IPL for everything.. Ridiculous mate.. It is deal between the player and his board and IPL as no interference in it..

Posted by venkatesh018 on (August 7, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

I clearly agree with folks who say the team comes before the individual and no player, however huge is above the game. But, the only permanent solution for this problem, now with KP and with other players in the future, is for ECB to stop scheduling domestic county matches and utterly irrelevant and meaningless Test series in May and give a chance for all its players to play in the IPL if they choose to. Not doing this will create irreparable harm not only to English domestic cricket but to Test cricket, because England is the last beacon of Test cricket and if it crumbles, then the whole foundation of Test cricket will go.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 7:02 GMT)

Whatever Kevin Pietersen is now is because of his country England. He left South Africa and England gave him the opportunity to become a great cricketer, he should have prioritized playing for England over all other cricket and if he needs rest then he should sacrifice league cricket and some money rather than going in and out of England side.

Posted by Haleos on (August 7, 2012, 6:58 GMT)

I saw the video and there was nothing astonishing about what KP said. Why blow it out of proportion?. Not a big fan of people who retire/unretire but cut KP some slack. Media is hyping the issue too much. Sadly thats what journalism is all about today.

Posted by Sakthiivel on (August 7, 2012, 6:55 GMT)

Its shame that ECB cant handle such issue. See BCCI, how they handle Sachin, Viru and Dhoni. Learn from the experts. We love watching pietersen.

Posted by javed.agrawala on (August 7, 2012, 6:52 GMT)

This is the great divide! Unfortunately most respondents from India and Pakistan are prepared to accomodate KP and Sachin and others who are very good in their art. But at what cost?

We lose on discipline and make these talented cricketers god-like and that is terrible. Pakistan has/had its own enfant terribles... Shoaib Akhtar, Shahid Afridi and the likes. The discipline issue becomes pervasive and then it affects the workings of others too including the great Wasim Akram, Salim Malik, the gang of 4 --waqar, saeed anwar , inzi and mushie etc etc. India too with azhar, jadeja and now the not so talented too. The lesser said of Salman, Asif and Amir, the better. One privilege leads to another... not for all and not all the way for others but nevertheless. These guys are immensely talented, but....

Winning is not everything and I do admire Strauss on this. What a lovely to get out of difficult demands by statating " .... nobody is interested in my tweets... I am too boring". Lovely!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

IPL the destroyer of the Gentlemens Game Called Cricket. If the Indians invent something it is for the worst. Play county cricket and experience the game. ICC save Cricket with out being timid to BCCI.

Posted by Theredbaron on (August 7, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

Bury your heads in the sand ECB, KP is your best player by far and all you want to do is change him into a "Yes Sir" man. KP is the most marketable player you have and people want to watch him. Ask anyone who they would rather watch Strauss of KP and its a no brainer!! If it was not for KP, as Graeme Smith said, England would have probably lost the second test. He has the XFactor. Otherwise KP just ignore the ECB regime and go make tons of money anywhere else, I would.

Posted by Dashgar on (August 7, 2012, 6:50 GMT)

Interesting to see how different countries deal with this problem. England and West Indies have gone the hard line approach which just seems to be destructive to the team. India have allowed their players to rest as they please, but that has meant replacements are constantly sought who never get to be true first team players. For guys like Rohit Sharma it has pretty much ruined their careers. I think Australia has it worked out best. Let each player know their role and allow time to rest across the board. Don't expect players to give their lives but also have expectations they will make national duty the highest priority.

Posted by vertical on (August 7, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

This guy has an ego larger than Rex.This whole problem is created for him wanting to play in the ipl.Why not create 2 month window when every t20 league is scheduled ipl.slpl,bbl etc.And maybe the leagues can share revenues with other boards for the participation of their players?Yes the issue can be that ipl would attract the most players.The other solution to reduce the number of leagues have one subcontinent league and one overseas league(eng,sa,aus,wi) where they rotate each each year the league is played in?That would make them more interesting and more global!!

Posted by SuperSharky on (August 7, 2012, 6:44 GMT)

KP is most of the times in trouble and he just have that magnetism that draws trouble. He loves himself so much that he rather should have concentrated on individual sports at school, like tennis or chess. He is good, but he is hardly a team player. He doesn't have respect for higher authorities and the team always has to come second after his own desires. Every time he do something good or get chosen as Man Of The Match, then he wants to threaten the ECB and cricket fans that he wants to exit. He want the others to play along with his rules. The rules is tough for every cricketer. We as the public, that gives our support and love to KP, only give him ammunition for these threats. England's cricket will continue for many more years. I doubt if KP's talent can last that long. Maybe it's time to say: "Thanks for the fish and so long". We need to breed a positive England team full of team-players. I guess KP will go Chris Gayle's route. He'll miss international cricket too much.

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 7, 2012, 6:35 GMT)

I would like to add to my previous comment. There might not be any dearth of talent in English side, but sooner or later the talent will be poached upon by the monster called IPL. So I would reiterate: practicality in decision making by ECB. And I am in support of KP. I like his on field attitude and the way he approaches the game. A talent which cannot be ignored just for cricketing reasons.

Posted by fineprint on (August 7, 2012, 6:34 GMT)

'treating all players as equal' . . . . hmmm .... when the players are selected, it is based on their PERFORMANCE, at that very moment itself the statement made is - 'you are different from those who have not been selected, you are better than them', thus all the players are NOT equal, thus till the time a player has made his way to the national team the principle followed is 'all players are not equal' obviously because all do not perform equally but as soon as they have started to share the dressing room how come suddenly the principle changes to 'all players should be treated equal' ?? where power and money are involved things are seldom what they are purported to be.

Posted by jackthelad on (August 7, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

'I love playing Test cricket for England .... It's absolutely 100% not about money.' Perhaps Pietersen should remember that not all of us have sound-bite fuelled bubble memories:- 'I love playing for England. England gives me the opportunities to sign with Delhi.' (KP, 17 Feb, 2012); it was in this same interview that he scotched rumours that he would retire from ODI cricket (which he did on May 31, 2012). Now, it seems, his difficulties are the result of ECB intransigence and media manipulation. You could respect this man much more if he'd just put his hands up and admit that he is at heart a cricketing mercenary, the sole member of a team of 1, and accept the understandable flak his self-interest gets him. Great batsman on his day, no doubt about that, but I wouldn't like to have to manage or play alongside him

Posted by deepakdr on (August 7, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

It is a shame that ECB is treating Kevin just as BCCI did to Mohinder Amarnath. The talent of Kevin is beyond any one else in England team and if ECB dares touch him ,the loser is too obvious.The avenues for cricketers to earn are increasing and Kevin of all the people will be gladly taken up.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

First ECB should stop picking players from other countries...Its like begging for players...ECB never listen to players... their squad selection is always the playing 11 not the best 11. The players also put their family/personal things first than playing for their nations that the reason IPL picked only Kevin & few domestic players....England team is always like a wind it blows like a cyclone and disappear in a time...I feel Kevin was not properly used by ECB & by the skipper.@ present Kevin is the only ICON player for England without him they are underdogs..

Posted by deadite11 on (August 7, 2012, 6:30 GMT)

KP is a self player, who plays for his pride and not for the team, and now he was backed up by IPL franchisees so he dont bother about his exit. Now he will enjoy to play in IPL. ECB should take action and they should ban him on playing for other domestic teams other than county.

Posted by chathuradil on (August 7, 2012, 6:16 GMT)

hey guys, don't try to equal KP to Ganguly or Afridi. They cant even near him. Reason behind this KP's situation is the IPL. It aims to destroy test cricketers and test cricket which Indians wanted at the moment. Gayle, Malinga are good example for this. hope to see u in internationals matches for 5 years atleast

Posted by Jack_Tka on (August 7, 2012, 6:15 GMT)

The reason for all this is IPL for sure, whether somebody accepts it in speech or not. Also its high time that ECB starts to understand the importance of IPL for individual players. Talented players make millions in that tournament and its difficult to ignore. This problem if not sorted now, will multiply in future. Right now, only KP and Morgan are playing for IPL. If in future other players are inducted into IPL then the problem will increase. Better to acknowledge the Powerhouse named : IPL and adjust to it. Thats my advice to ECB. Thye problem only looks as individual problem but it exceeds otehr limits as well(I mean IPL). THE BOARD SHOULD BE PRACTICAL IN DECISION MAKING.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 6:06 GMT)

KP is one of the modern era batsman who is loved by every generation, No matter if you are 12 or 20 or 60 - 80 but every body who watched him ON the field loves him.

It's a shame that he has to deal with all this every other day, it hampers his concentration and above all his performance which is not good for ECB.

Please spare him from politics, sportsperson are not entitled for such crap. They play game coz they enjoy it and some people spoil it. KP cricket fans are with you, so keep on fighting and you will overcome every obstacle.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 6:00 GMT)

Dont understand why professional players cannot choose which matches they play? If a player wants to earn more money over a month than play meaningless Test cricket then he should be so allowed. After all KP isnt exactly asking to miss the Ashes or a test series against one of the top sides in cricket. Remember 2 years back ECB sending a 2nd tier team to Bangladesh and they could have done the same with NZ. ECB is being unfair here and will miss KP more than they miss Flintoff. Flintoff was anyways on the wane when he went away while KP's best 2-3 years might still lie ahead. Without KP they dont have an aggressive player who can turn a match. They will always be short of the X-Factor without KP.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:59 GMT)

I have not been a fan of KP over the years as to me he has often come across as somewhat ill mannered and brash... not my kind of player... but it does somehow seem unfair the way he constantly gets hammered in the media. It seems there's an agenda out there. He's not exactly Princess Diana, but it seems to me that the media, his enemies in the ECB and his legion of critics seem pretty much determined to kill him off. Don't people understand that its precisely his somewhat untempered attitude that make him such a dangerous cricket player? His best qualities on the field are sometimes also his worst off the field. I find no fault in the fact that he has expressed his feelings about the playing schedule to the ECB and to the media about his betrayal of coinfidence... Maybe the media should play fair and question why KP's feelings about the playing schedule were leaked. Where is that dirty little Iago...?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:56 GMT)

There is no I in team but at least the I in Pietersen now makes sense.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:45 GMT)

KP is one of the modern era batsman who is loved by every generation, No matter if you are 12 or 20 or 60 - 80 but every body who watched him ON the field loves him.

It's a shame that he has to deal with all this every other day, it hampers his concentration and above all his performance which is not good for ECB.

Please spare him from politics, sportsperson are not entitled for such crap. They play game coz they enjoy it and some people spoil it - A top example is Jason Gillespie, for me the best bowler of 90s and 2000s but politics spoiled some golden years from his career. KP cricket fans are with you, so keep on fighting and you will overcome every obstacle.

Posted by xntrik on (August 7, 2012, 5:39 GMT)

If England have half the maturity India does in handling Sachin and others like Viru... oh well. Part of being a team is also to accept folks for what they are and who they are. This is about England, not about a dressing room of 15 odd blokes, no matter how important KP thinks he is or the rest think they are. If he is available, chose him if he is among the best at his position. If he is not, no issues, chose the best to represent England. I have a lot of respect for Flower, but this is not Zimbabwe, this is England. We are not talking about a bloke that batted at #5 for ZIM (nothing against them), we are talking about KP. All I will say is this, no NBA or NFL team would in anything if they go with the philosophy of the current England team. All the best for the Third test.

Posted by Manush on (August 7, 2012, 5:38 GMT)

What a shame!!. Such a lovely cricketer in modern days being singled out by the English media and by some selectors and want to spoil his career. Not a single player worth his name in England squad can match his talent and brilliance !! The way he treated Steyn and Morkel 2 days back reminded me of his treatment given to MGrath and Warne . Hope better sense will prevail in the so called dressing room and wish good luck to Kevin. Even Botham compares him to his friend Vivian for his skill and arrogance when he gets going. The only draw back with Kevin, he is emotional and impulsive which he must control.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

It has always been abundantly clear that none of the England team or group has ever liked Kevin Pietersen. Apart from being a talented cricketer he does not have a much going for him as a person. He is thoroughly dislikeable.

Please Kevin, just go, and stop all of the postulating and politics! You thought you were bigger than the ECB and you were not. GAME OVER.

PS Despite the 'tough sticker' to the contrary, there is not one ounce of England in him. He simply sees himself as an employee of the UK for the mutual benefit of both parties (mainly his own).

Posted by Muhtasim13 on (August 7, 2012, 5:34 GMT)

@no_second_chance_for_batsman, Sachin is a burden for India. Even if the Indian selectors want to drop him due to poor form, they can't because of Sachin's status in the media & the country. the ECB is trying to treat every player equally, which is the right way to go in this situation

Posted by MattyP1979 on (August 7, 2012, 5:33 GMT)

Agree with most Eng fans here. If he goes he goes, a loss but interesting players waiting in the wings. It would be nice if they could find their feet a bit longer in the lions format. Eng strength has been their unity rather than having 'stars' in a side. If KP wants to play pick him, if in doubt throw his butt out. Remember after SA it is down hill for a while (yes that includes Ind at home, cant wait for THIS team to beat you again).

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:33 GMT)

England without Pietersen!!!!!Good to hear...so the November series is in India's pocket already

Posted by dwblurb on (August 7, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

Inevitable. He has fallen our with every team or organisation he has been involved with, and it has always, of course, been the fault of the other side. Narcissists generally don't fit in well in a team environment, and Pietersen, unfortunately for him, is not as indispensable as he thinks he is.

Posted by bobmartin on (August 7, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

The central contract conditions are what KP has signed up to. Surely he and his agent knew what they were doing, when he signed. I'm sure if I had a contract of employment, my boss would not be at all happy if I decided to do another job on the side at the expense of what he was paying me to do. The solution is simple KP..if you don't like the contrat that's offered, always assuming of course..you get offered one. then don't sign it. On the other hand, if you do sign it, stop whining like a spoiled brat and get with what you are being handsomely paid to do

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:16 GMT)

kp is man of money.....although he is a talented player...he quit country of his birth for money now what is surprising if he quits england for money offered by ipl?

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 7, 2012, 5:14 GMT)

On readin g the whole article, pity for KP.. Even if he had asked for whole IPL window, let us see what goes wrong? He is ready to play for 10 months fully.. In case they are going to play some big games like against Australia or SA, i think he will reconsider his decision to play IPL.. And, we all know how much importance ODI games will get if not for the dumb ranking system.. if not for ranking system, i doubt anyone could have paid attention to the Aus-Eng ODIs or the Ind-SL ODIs.. If ECB was ready to give KP a rest for the WI ODI series, why not rest him during IPL? No one will be loser apart from fans if KP retires from tests too.. Even fans can see him in T20 leagues which is cropping up in every corner of cricketing world..

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 7, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

I know exactly whats going on Here. ECB do not like IPL so they will schedule test during IPL times. if the same test match against australia , do you think KP play ashes or IPL. Ashes 100%. It is basically ECB do not want their premier players play in IPL. So they are creating problems of KP to make a choice England or IPL. Period. I think it is mainly coming from coach more than ECB i think. Coach thinks no one above his rule. KP will get his money. Also ECB can create more problems for KP even if he don't play for england. So basically ECB is dictating like DICTATOR in ugly way just like BCCI does. i feel pity for KP not for ECB , because ECB is jealous of IPL. That said i hate BCCI , it is killing cricket in INDIA. if there is no BCCI , india can find 100 fast bowlers and find 5 all star teams out of 1.3 billion. BCCI does selection policies are based on favouritism among its members.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 7, 2012, 5:06 GMT)

@no_second_chance_for_batsman : The thing is, ECB hired KP and they don't want him to dictate terms.. Since ECB doesn't have plans of massive league, they need to show hard face in order to maintain their players playing for them.. Sachin is of different league mate..

Posted by binojpeter on (August 7, 2012, 5:03 GMT)

I mean, it will be great if Boards make an IPL window when they schedule matches. But it is strictly at the discretion of Boards. ECB has decided right from the first edition of IPL not to provide IPL window. So if KP has agreed to play tests, he will have to play it if it coincides with IPL. There is no way he can get around that. I don't think ECB is going to give him any leeway regarding this. I believe that ECB is perfectly justified in doing so.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 5:02 GMT)

KP is one of the top players and everyone enjoy his batting. I guess he might be trying to make a mark at the IPL by playing a whole season. It would be a great competition between the likes of KP, CG, VS and the rest. To be fair England needs to think of Cricket and KP focus on the family because at the end, we do everything for the sake of our families. I love watching him smashing the ball but more than anything I appreciate him making a decision to spend time with family. Take a bow guys... He has played cricket for ages and have spent months and months out of England, and I guess its high time that he gives quality time at home. Any kid would love to have his/her dad at home! So KP go ahead and give quality time at home because no one can fit into the shoes as a dad but you!!

Posted by jmcilhinney on (August 7, 2012, 4:48 GMT)

KP will be KP but could he really not just keep his mouth shut until this series was over at least? It feels a bit like he's trying to use his performance in this Test, which was magnificent, as leverage against the ECB in other matters. Maybe that's not it but that's how it looks. Also, while I'm not specifically against KP in this whole affair, it is hard to take him seriously regarding wanting more time off when he's looking at signing in the BBL. If he's doing that then surely that means that he's given up on playing limited-overs cricket for England and, if that's the case, why should there be any threat to his playing Test cricket? If the dispute is over then what's he disputing? It's also hard to take his saying how much he loves playing Test cricket for England when he's saying that he wants to prioritise playing IPL over playing Test cricket. I reckon the ECB stand firm. He gets the same deal as everyone else or he walks away. If England suffer as a result then so be it.

Posted by Sarangarajan on (August 7, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

It is a pity that Kevin is forced to this position he is in by the media and the ECB. One can see the interview and easily conclude that he is controlling his emotions.The headline after the interview by the media questions whether he has played his last test for England.Media makes good headlines and sells sweetly.What ever he said was not "any shocking verbal outburst".He only put up his position that he shall reveal after the Lords test. The back room politics of all the Cricket boards is the same all over the world.Be it ECB ,PCB ,or the West Indies.These administrators do not tolerate any player not toeing their lines. The media just grabs what all these wise men dole out to the media as tit bits to blow out of proportion .Kevin is not fortunate as Sachin in India is.Poor chap- the media, the ECB are after him.No one can take away the immense pleasure and excitement Kevin provided to the spectators and TV viewers worldwide who watch his brilliant 100 in the recent test.

Posted by shohag23 on (August 7, 2012, 4:39 GMT)

I think KP is doing more than he should or he could do.Sachin played 22 years and still he wants to be a part of India team because he loves what he does.Sincerity and love for the game of cricket and country made him today's Sachin.He could have earned more money playing county cricket all his life.But he made himself available for both his country and family.But KP wants to play only IPL or BB because of money.He started doing this Just because he was called up from this years IPL to play against WI.Come on KP grow up.You are not Sachin or Shane Warne.If India can win without Sachin and Australia without Shane.Then why wouldn't England without you.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 4:37 GMT)

Unfortunately he is a star not just a cricketer. In SA we love him and I have an Indian wife and they adore him in Bangalore. KP vs Steyn was the highlight of the test and box office cricket. England use him where you can - maybe not part of long term team building plans but you have Bell who is very admired over here. Or send him back :)

Posted by jathoma on (August 7, 2012, 4:30 GMT)

Its high time that ECB changed to accomodate the wishes of individual players as this will be the norm from now on.ECB has no right to stop anyone from peddling their wares in various shores as the life span of cricketers is very limited.I would pay any amount of money to watch KP in action than any of his fellow team members!

Posted by luks on (August 7, 2012, 4:30 GMT)

@ashish, Pietersen has said this before: playing in the IPL is very useful for English and Australian cricketers because they get the experience of playing aggressively on Indian wickets. Very few players from outside the subcontinent can play aggressively against spin and especially, in Indian conditions. I think many smart players like Gayle, Kallis, Pietersen, Warner have improved their game all-round by being in IPL. Yes, the money is an attraction, but I think even if the money was lesser, it is great from the point of the international cricketer to get a chance to play in the subcontinent, with the stakes being lower than when on national duty. So that they can experiment and improve their game.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 4:18 GMT)

Have sympathy for KP if internal conversations have been leaked. That's not nice. But you can't dictate terms in a team - even if you are a genius. The England team hierarchy have the rules for a reason, and I trust their judgement as to what is best for the England team long term. KP has every right to ask for time off - but he's not going to get much sympathy if that time is only to go and play in the IPL. If KP retires, I'll miss watching him because he's a fantastic player - but he's not bigger than the team. No one is. The problem isn't going to go away until the ICC does the sensible thing and declares an IPL window. Have the IPL in May, and make the English test summer June to August. West Indies can play home tests Feb to April as they used to - or even June onwards as they do now. Then everyone gets to go and play their hit and giggle, make their millions and be happy.

Posted by The_boundary_lurker on (August 7, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

"I didn't talk to the media." Well, he's doing it now, and attempting to manipulate public opinion to support his stance, effectively saying if he doesn't get what he wants, he's taking his bat and going home. On you go then mate.

KP's a phenomenally talented player (and he's just demonstrated his value for England) and if he was just after more time with his family and less cricketing commitments I'd be behind him 100%. But what he really wants is time off to play IPL and make a bucket of cash. If he wants to do that, good luck to him, and many of us might make the same decision in his situation, but to ask for special consideration for this is stunningly arrogant.

KP's destabilising the team with his posturing, and if he can't sort it out, it's time for him to go. You love playing for England Kevin? Then choose England over money. If not, fine but please, spare us the wounded and faux-patriotic hyperbole.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

I have a solution for KP, take indian citizenship. play test cricket for India....and play IPL, pick and chose your series (play the WC T20), let BCCI handle ECB, win win win...

Posted by SICHO on (August 7, 2012, 4:11 GMT)

Ahhh...... KP, what a drama queen. One minute he's cool as a cucumber the next he's a different man. Good for him because he knows there is no life after him for the #4 position. Jokes aside, this totally unacceptable. No player is above the system, even our great Jacques Kallis can't do that, he is not that special. Choosing matches? Not playing Test cricket for IPL? This man is a nightmare. I thought people already knew the famous line,"where there's KP, there's controversy".

Posted by jasif on (August 7, 2012, 4:10 GMT)

again....IPL is the big issue....coz of this IPL national teams are losing players and world is deprived of watching great players in national colors....plz for the sake of cricket and patriotism ban IPL

Posted by rohan024 on (August 7, 2012, 4:10 GMT)

without KP, england ll be like england of old..win few matches here and there, but more often than not, ll loose test series globally..the fact is KP is a legend, one of the best cricket world has seen in the last decade...even if he retires now, he ll still be a legend..

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 4:04 GMT)

The title to both the video and the article are extremely misleading. KP hasn't attacked anyone; in fact, he's kept things quiet until the last test is taken care of. He's also right in saying that he will always be portrayed as the "the bad guy" who is capturing headlines on his own whims; he's standing up for what he wants his career to look like and is doing his best to keep it confidential, but that doesn't seem to be okay in anyone's books for some reason.

Posted by venky91 on (August 7, 2012, 3:57 GMT)

England wants new players from Ireland like Moragan,Boyd-Rankin. But they don't understand the value of KP. What a dominant cricketer.

Posted by Riderstorm on (August 7, 2012, 3:55 GMT)

It isn't the question of who is right or wrong anymore. The whole drama surrounding KP is just annoying. Cricket board always tend to be on the winning side because of the fact that they have nothing to lose. On the other hand, KP has everything to lose (England representation and Name in history books). The one who would lose the most is the english fans and KP fans all over the world who love the excitement KP brings to test cricket.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 3:54 GMT)

well said Abdul Rehman Tariq

Posted by Paulk on (August 7, 2012, 3:31 GMT)

He is a great batsman and you certainly can't accuse him of being a team man like you could of say Mike Hussey.

Posted by Rally_Windies on (August 7, 2012, 3:31 GMT)

furthermore, the ECB is subject to English law .. unlike the PCB, who answers to the President and therefor has immunity and the WICB which falls under the jurisdiction of no country (even though it is incorporated in St. Lucia) . The WICB is basically a law unto itself ......

But the ECb does not share those privileges and should be held accountable for breach of civil law .

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 3:28 GMT)

To all English cricket fans who wants KP to be removed:

Please give back the Ashes 2005 title, World T20 champions title and world no.1 in tests (anyhow u cant maintain last two tittles without KP) before u guys talk about removing him from the team.

Removing KP from England team is not gonna do him anything except he cant become a GREAT in Test. however he gonna play all leagues in the world like Gayle did and make you guys greed of him. I bet this will happen if he is dropped from the team.

Posted by satish619chandar on (August 7, 2012, 3:16 GMT)

What the fuss.. If there is rift, just sort it or go away.. The U-turns or the threatens make no sense at all.. KP is a good bat but England can survive even without him.. Same way, KP can always live a life with T20 leagues and can enjoy the money he earnt with the family.. Go away KP.. Both parties can be happy..

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (August 7, 2012, 3:15 GMT)

Eng moved on without Flintoff and they'll do the same without KP. Bell needs to bat higher than #5 at this stage of his career and and this is a perfect opportunity for him and any of taylor/bopara/bairstow/Morgan/(insert Eng Lions batsmen here) can fill out the #5 and #6 spot or maybe play 5 bowlers and move Prior up to #6.

Posted by r.nadun on (August 7, 2012, 3:11 GMT)

If KP's carrier finshed from last match mean ENG No.1 status will end for sure. KP is main reason still ENG having their No.1 status. If he not score 100 in this match the result will be 2-0 for now .And thanks for KP still they could have it. But i belive no player is above the game. If you Sachin and play for India you can choose you're own games. Otherwise you could not select which serries you want to play.If KP not play for ENG mean still they didn't have any ICC throphy and thanks KP's heroic afford in WI now they could have at least one throphy.Don't forget KP is the only impact player England got in their batting department. one session of KP's could change entire game and entire Serries .

Posted by InnocentGuy on (August 7, 2012, 3:06 GMT)

I just watched the press conference. And by no means can it be termed "shocking verbal outburst". If anything, he was just calmly lamenting. Who knows what is really going on behind the scenes? I think it is unfair that the media just speculates so much and misguides the public. The distraction is not caused by KP, but by the media, who say that KP is a distraction and lead everyone to believe it.

Posted by ashish514 on (August 7, 2012, 3:04 GMT)

I was on KP's side till now. But wanting to miss tests to play IPL? How can that be about anything else than money. I believed he should be allowed to play T20s for England but this is just too much. Just because he is a great player individually doesn't mean he can have his way with anything. That when ECB has strict rules regarding this in their contract. He could have his way in India, but not there. If BCCI had such rules and Sachin had wanted to make that exception for himself, it would be wrong. But currently there are no such rules and his picking and playing matches is in no way harming the team due to availability of Gambhir, who can play both as an opener and on down. Currently no one else in the team will want to pick and choose their matches, they will want to play every one of them to secure their place.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 3:02 GMT)

No player is bigger than the system. KP is great but he is not great enough to be treated specially. Replacements are waiting for a chance, and guys like Alex Hales and Johnny Bairstow, if given the chance, can emulate KP or maybe go better. England is not number 1 because of KP, KP is number 1 because of England.

Posted by no_second_chance_for_batsman on (August 7, 2012, 2:54 GMT)

If SACHIN can do the way he does, why not PIETERSEN ? I don't see how u can FORCE a "top player" or dictate TERMS to a top player ? ECB can go on working the old way & PIETERSEN will go on his way... The question to be answered is "who will be the looser ? England or Pietersen. IMO, hats off to Pietersen for sticking to his view on life & ECB should be flexible to accommodate top players. Well not everyone in the playing 11 is a top player right ?

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 2:53 GMT)

doesnt matter what the "actuall englishmen" says but kp iz the best

Posted by Y2SJ on (August 7, 2012, 2:48 GMT)

Hope he returns to SA and plays test for SA.

Posted by derpherp on (August 7, 2012, 2:32 GMT)

no dont leave!!!! i wanna watch you play in the next ashes!!!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 2:31 GMT)

I me myself mine..diva queen

Posted by Shan156 on (August 7, 2012, 2:26 GMT)

I like KP as a batsman but what he is doing here is pathetic to say the least. No one player is bigger than the team. KP demands special treatment and, sorry, that cannot be provided. Yes, England will be weak without him and may lose games but that is fine. We did win the test series against Australia in 2009 without KP playing a part but it is true that without him, England are certainly a weaker side. But, that's fine. Fans want England to win but, more importantly, we want to see England play as a team. Team unity is more important and I hope the ECB passes this strong message to KP. He should not be allowed to think that the England team and management would do anything to keep him in the side.

I strongly suspect that KP might be dropped for the next test and we will never see him play for England again. Sad, though, it may be, it is the right thing to do.

Posted by Parth_Pala on (August 7, 2012, 2:24 GMT)

This issue all it does is show the state of Englands mentality. It didn't take much from people calling KP a hero to calling him 'that south african'. England needs a bit of humble pie. If it wasn't for K.P England would be bottom feeding with West Indies and New Zealand. Show some respect. The media and the English fan are ridiculous

Posted by I-Mac on (August 7, 2012, 2:23 GMT)

Get rid of him! Let him go back to SA and he can slot in at no.5 with AB keeping the gloves and battinbg at 6. Its about time one of the England 'imports' went the other way.

Posted by simon_w on (August 7, 2012, 2:12 GMT)

Yeah, I've had enough of this now. KP could be the difference that means England can maintain a stake in the battle which is going on over the #1 spot (I don't think anyone's going to hold on to it for too long for a while), but even that's not worth it, imo. It's not mentioned here, but I just heard an interview with the BBC where he says "it's tough being me"!! Whilst no-one would deny his outrageous talent as a player, I've virtually no respect left for him as a man.

Posted by Hammond on (August 7, 2012, 2:11 GMT)

No-one, not even Bradman, was bigger than the game. If KP wants to start dictating to the Board what he wants to do then that sets a dangerous precedent moving forward. And if KP really isn't "making decisions about money" then he should offer to play the IPL for free, so all the fans can enjoy his batting. I really believe that Kevin loves playing for his new country, and he does show pride in the achievements of this side. Maybe he thinks he can leave the test team at number one, he doesn't play odi's anymore, and isn't being considered for the 20/20 side. I really do hope that this next test is his last, he goes out with a bigger bang than even Headingly, England retain number one, and he goes on to earn big money playing clown cricket and spends more time with his family. England on the other hand, can start rebuilding in preparation for flogging a dead horse (sorry playing against Australia in the ashes) next year..

Posted by EverybodylovesSachin on (August 7, 2012, 2:07 GMT)

Backyard bully bullies in backyard..

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 2:06 GMT)

Hi, Remember Criss Gayle same thing will happen here, players like Gayle, K.p, Veeru, are match winners and crowd pullers, these are the ones who keep cricket lovers watch test cricket without these players no one will come to watch test cricket on cricket stadiums , Board should provide all the support to these kind of players, otherwise god saves the test cricket.

Posted by bobagorof on (August 7, 2012, 2:05 GMT)

I'm no fan of Twenty20, but it's a shame that Pietersen could not wait until after the Twenty20 World Cup to retire (I realise he has issues with playing ODIs that 'forced' his hand). It's only a couple of months away. As for the developments that could see him disciplined and not playing Test matches again... it just seems like poor timing. I understand that he feels slighted by what he sees as a leak (though in a country linked with phone tapping scandals, who can say), but surely this sort of stuff can be dealt with during contract negotiations in September, or at least after the current series has concluded? But, KP may be the first of many players to take a stand against the current schedule, which may have larger impacts. Time will tell.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 2:05 GMT)

His attitude towards ebb is consistent

Posted by DWO1 on (August 7, 2012, 1:51 GMT)

He's one of the games biggest attention cry babies to say the least. One minute he's not willing to play "Limited Overs" cricket and the next he's hoping to get picked. After having left South Africa to be adopted by England, how could you possibly expect to "have your cake and eat it too". Make up your mind about what you really want and stop operating like a spoil child, then move on ...

Posted by Jimmers on (August 7, 2012, 1:43 GMT)

I'm sure KP is attempting to blackmail the ECB into giving in to his demands, but for once I think they should probably budge a bit. We all know what a berk he can be at times, but he needs the big game, and the big game really needs him. And it's not like other players are likely to make similar demands.. firstly he's one of very few England players the IPL bother with, and even if they did it's hard to imagine any of them making a big fuss like this because they'd be too embarrassed. His performances this year in all conditions, in all forms and at all levels of the game have shown why some compromise needs to to be arrived at, he's just too big a fish to let go.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 1:42 GMT)

I am interested in this for a comparative analysis with a problem the WICB had with a key player about a year or so ago. It would be interesting to see how this plays out!

Posted by kensohatter on (August 7, 2012, 1:25 GMT)

Australia had a similiar problem with Warne. He didnt fit in with the family values of S. Waugh, Langer, Gilchrist and Hayden but due to his absolute genius on a cricket pitch the team got along in a professional way. Gilchrist has stated in the past that they may not be best of friends but they respected each others professional ability and so for the good of the team put their difference aside. I personally think KP does not fall into the same category as warne and is dispensable and for the sake of team harmony should be sacked. He is a divisive character and Englands test status is based on the champion team rather than australias dominant team of champions. Grow up KP most workplaces around the world are filled with people who dislike their bosses but carry on. All you are doing is giving the board every opportunity to punt you the next time you go through a batting slump. Speaking of slumps the last time you went through one was it not management who stuck by you?

Posted by GHemrajani on (August 7, 2012, 1:22 GMT)

Shame on ECB. The best talent who singlehandedly gets them only chance of beating a top team is being treated so poorly. ECB needs to change. Period. In the only World title that England ever won (World T20), KP was player of the series. I want to see how England's top 3 Cook, Bell and Trott win them the World Cup. Egoistic ECB cant show any wins. Pathetic. Feel very sorry for KP. Our support is with you KP.

Posted by Sinhaya on (August 7, 2012, 1:20 GMT)

Oh KP I will badly miss you!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 1:15 GMT)

Will he qualify to represent SA as soon as he quits the English side. Would be a terrific addition to the SAside at number 4 or 5

Posted by ruester on (August 7, 2012, 1:03 GMT)

If K.P has played his last match for England, ECB bow your heads in shame! K.P is our premier batter who is a total match winner. He has raised some difficult questions for the ECB, they have to adapt with the times, they HAVE to consider player schedules, they HAVE to consider that IPL is a competition that players want to be a part of. KP won the T20 world cup for us, whats wrong with our players using IPL as a preparation for this? England players are well paid but are restricted by our constant test match schedule and pointless ODI competitions. No wonder that KP wants some changes for the better. ECB are scared that players like Swann, Broad, Anderson will also want time off and miss matches, rather than the ECB resting players when they don't want resting. E.g Jimmy earlier this season. Why can't the ECB contract have a clause that the players can miss an agreed number of matches during the contracts duration, this can be the same for ALL players.

Posted by venkateswarlu84 on (August 7, 2012, 1:02 GMT)

Throw him out and keep going England. If not KP someone else will play. What else is more important than playing for country? IPL? If it is not about money why you want to be available for IPL whole season? You will have more free time than expected if you Quit all other things and play only international cricket. Still if u want rest then u can ask to the board.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:58 GMT)

ECB can't ignore IPL any longer.

Posted by NaniIndCri on (August 7, 2012, 0:58 GMT)

I just now saw the interview and there is nothing extraordinary about it as suggested by Cricinfo except their sensational journalism. He has some issues with board and told so. Obviously he is feeling humiliated after what ECB has done to him with the leaks and he is entitled to express his frustration after his years of dedication.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

kevin pietersen is a great player and he should be in the side and tigg for your information k.p has the highest average among current england players

Posted by PYC1959 on (August 7, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

Get rid of him, he's a distraction. Of course it's all about the money, he wants to play the whole IPL season so what else would it be about? How would the others feel with him dropping in and out of the team when he wants to? No wonder he needs to sort things out in the dressing room, he has only himself to blame.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:50 GMT)

Watching his interview with the media - I loathe to say it being a Hampshire man. I do feel for KP, there is definitely something wrong.

BUT he, KP, should stop his twitter account -to reduce any possible misunderstandings - dead!

The leak is abhorrent - let's see what gives in 2 weeks or so.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:44 GMT)

I didn't mind when Pietersen retired from ODIs and 20/20s, as these forms of the game are quite meaningless. In fact, I thought it was a good thing, as he could concentrate on Tests, the only form of cricket that matters.

This new random twist by KP, however, is ridiculous: pretty much blackmailing the ECB.

The ECB should call his bluff. If KP says "I'm retiring" they should say "Well good bye then, don't let the door catch you on your way out".

It's a similar case to Chris Gayle and the WICB. I feel the same way there - the WICB should have said good riddance to Chris Gayle - if he wants to take the IPL gravy train instead of playing for his country, don't negotiate with the idiot.

One difference between the two scenarios is that England currently has depth of talent, West Indies do not. England can afford to leave Pietersen out, West Indies obviously felt they couldn't afford to leave Gayle out (though I would have anyway, as a matter of principle).

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:44 GMT)

KP is the Sachin of England.. Give him wat he wants and he will give u wins :)

Posted by binoyb on (August 7, 2012, 0:39 GMT)

If KP leaves - there'll be more like him - no one is bigger than the game

Posted by Jonathan_E on (August 7, 2012, 0:39 GMT)

I'd suggest the following solution:

(1) There should be less than 11 Central Contracts. The idea should be that at least one batting and one bowling position should be "up for grabs by whoever is available, good enough, and in good form". Maybe, 4 batsmen, 3 bowlers and 1 keeper should be on Central Contract, maximum.

(2) Based on his current attitude and wishes, Pietersen should NOT be given a central contract. That would leave, let's say, Strauss, Cook, Trott and Bell as four centrally contracted batsmen who will play no matter what unless unfit, and Pietersen can compete with others for the 5th batting spot (or 6th, if six batsmen are played).

Obviously if he makes himself unavailable for a given match or series, then one or two others would have to be selected: and equally obviously, if they play well, they would be regarded as "in possession". If they play badly, they get dropped, and replaced with whoever is doing well at the moment. Which may be Pietersen, or may not.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:39 GMT)

I'm an aussie, and I have huge respect for KP. I also agree that the situation he envisages would be great for the individual. But imagine if every member of the team had similar treatment. If 4 or 5 players felt like spending more time with their families, the team would be stuffed. (Reminds me of park cricket, where the captain rings around each week to see who feels like playing on the weekend.) If you want to be in an elite team, you have to play by pretty strict rules.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:38 GMT)

KP is irreplaceable! He is the only flamboyant English batsman in this test side. They can't do without him. The pick and choose aspect like many others followers is something I am not happy with either. You can say he is not the most dependable batsman but that is just how he plays his cricket. England have had him on the side for years despite knowing all this and are still the no.1 ranked test side. Make it work ECB!

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (August 7, 2012, 0:38 GMT)

That's okay KP. You can come here. You'd make any internatioanl team, easily.

Posted by Massive_Allan_Border_Fan on (August 7, 2012, 0:30 GMT)

I'm an Australian fan. And I want KP out of the English team. For purely self-interested reasons. I saw his innings in Adelaide 2010.

England: this is the biggest favour I'll ever do you. Are you listening?

Posted by shiv_cric on (August 7, 2012, 0:26 GMT)

KP has always come by as arrogant chap. He seems to be overestimating his worth. Not sure if anybody great would blow his own trumpet - "...is that the spectators just love watching me play...". Not sure if he is hearing voices in his dreams. With the current crop of talent in England, i wouldn't suppose anybody is going to miss him. No doubt he has been a standout player, but attitude is a sure catalyst for downfall and he is going to be a victim of it. If he is a bad influence on the team, he is best left out as an example for the rest. Humbleness is the virtue of a great player and he clearly lacks this attribute. Would be great to see England put him behind and concentrate on building a team focussed on the group rather than an individual.

Posted by phoenixsteve on (August 7, 2012, 0:26 GMT)

Although I have never been a great fan of KP I appreciate & sympathise with him on this availabilty issue. Top players have always 'cherry picked' the series to miss. It used to be any sub-continent tour but things there have improved - as far as tour conditions go. Players with young families should excused from the occasional tour comittment? A happy cricketer is going to be a more successful cricketer - after all the ECB doesn't OWN these players - they are merely contracted. All players run the risk of not being selected if they become unavailabe for prior games - even KP! It's become more of an issue following his latest showing & display of amazing talent! I suspect the selectors/management are applying standards of dedication accepted in their day? Today there is so much more cricket - the authorities need to show some flexibilty/understanding. After all it was these same standards (as being applied by management) that saw England languish in mediocrity in years past?

Posted by ArsalanMujahidGhouri on (August 7, 2012, 0:24 GMT)

Why not any other is in spotlight? What special is in him? Answer is: he want to remain and discuss in media, his antics and gestures shows it. n yah, team isnt bigger then individual ! go and feel the heat of so called competitive cricket of IPL.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:16 GMT)

Also, point to note - BCCI is in fact treating Tendulkar differently. He is being allowed to pick series as he likes. Not comparing the two, but there are cases where it has happened.

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 7, 2012, 0:15 GMT)

It is england loss if ECB do not allow pieterson play and no one else. i won't blame KP if he choose IPL (money) over playing England useless ODI. That said i also do not like players allow pick and choose , that said sachin does. I think it is better in that way new players can be tried. It is better for any team to have rotation when you play weak teams. No need for pieterson to play against NZ. Pieterson should be allowed to play top 4 teams. Rules are for masses , rich do not abide by any rules. for me extreme talent should not be allowed to go through all this stupid rules. I feel England coach wants to run the team like he is a dictator. I am with KP ...he should be allowed to make money...

Posted by Nampally on (August 7, 2012, 0:14 GMT)

It is sad to read about the KP Saga. He is the best England batsman by miles. He can play any bowling & score runs at a high S/R. From the politics of the matter, it has shades of Chris Gayle & West indies cricket Board dispute. Hopefully this is not the end of a great Batsman!.

Posted by Badgerofdoom on (August 7, 2012, 0:12 GMT)

Where is the "astonishing attack on the ECB and other members of the England dressing room" I think it would help if the media did not feel it necessary to exaggerate what is being said to generate better headlines.

Posted by Alexk400 on (August 7, 2012, 0:11 GMT)

For me its is not KP issue at all. It is IPL issue. Some players who gets more money in IPL will prefer to play IPL but also wants to play England. I do not blame Pieterson if he wants to play IPL. Whole world everyone wants to play IPL. Its money for sure..how can refuse a player making income?. I think its not england problem , it is international problem. There are other countries do not want to give 2 month gap for IPL because it sets precedent for each country making their own league and wants the gap.. no country can make an IPL except china. There is not many people come and watch cricket except in India. I believe all cricketing nation should allowed to get some % if there are players from that country. In that way each country gets some money. And it makes other cricketers happy. ECB do not like IPL so they will cut Pieterson...it is an issue only KP can sort out. Asking players to choose England or IPL , he will choose IPL if he can get 1 mil for 45 days play.

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:04 GMT)

It is beyond ridiculous how badly ECB has handled the KP issue - there are a few people that need to be handled differently from others and considering he is an elite batsman, the respect should be given. Instead, the cricket world may lose one of its biggest stars - what a crying shame!

Posted by   on (August 7, 2012, 0:02 GMT)

To be honest, the fact he's made out to be the bad guy often enough by the media is enough to make me sick! Who was the one person that brought in the biggest work ethic of recent time? KP. Who was the one person that was first to be absolutely brutal and honest after the 2006/7 humiliation down under? KP. Who was the player of the 2010 T20 World Cup and, might I add, came back to help England win that trophy? KP. So who always appears to be treated like a sack of crap and make the sacrificial lamb by the ECB when it comes to all forms of Cricket? Also, who has had the most T20 experience in the sub-continent, and England have left out of their World Cup defence in Sri Lanka? Yep, it makes a sorry tale for the so-called bad guy doesn't it? What irks me to no end is that the ECB cannot justify their own reasons. Cook doesn't play T20s but can play in ODIs. Likewise Strauss only plays Tests. So what if they're Captains? They're still players! Whose no bigger than the team? Logic where?

Posted by AlfAlpha on (August 7, 2012, 0:01 GMT)

After resigning from one dayers just before the Twenty20 world cup and now posturing about Test cricket just before a crunch match at Lords I don't really think he should be in an England shirt. Maybe he can play for the Daredevils again and qualify for India.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:59 GMT)

There are a lot of such excellent, but "picky" & "choosy" cricketers around the world. I have a few more names to offer: Gayle, Afridi, Pollard, and a great man form a great country. If I mention the last guy's name, this site will crash with protest posts! They all can form a "Prima Donna World XI" , tour around the world,and beat every other team into a pulp. But. then cricket will be like the WWW wrestling! Which true cricket lover wants that?

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:56 GMT)

would take ten seconds to forget him

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:52 GMT)

Hypocrat! "It is absolutely 100% not about money", he says. Also says "...love to play for England". Then why this hankering to play most of the IPL? A country is more important than an individual. Cricket is more important than a narcissistic prima donna. "SPECTATORS LOVE WATCHING ME PLAY CRICKET" That spoken sentence says it all. ... "so I want to encash it fully" that is the unspoken sentence. Drop him for good. Perhaps he can erase the three lines tattoo and replace it with a fern. I love NZ cricket and their, by and large, very nice cricketers. Hope, they don't bite this shark of a bait!

Posted by Shongololo on (August 6, 2012, 23:51 GMT)

Jeff Mills, the answer is obvious.

KP is an "Englishman' when performing, that 'bloody South African' when the going gets tough. He will never be truly accepted by the English powers that be. Freddie, on the other hand, is English, that's why he, an inferior talent to KP, got what he wanted.

Posted by Harmony111 on (August 6, 2012, 23:51 GMT)

I am somewhat shocked to see some comments here. It is clear that whether KP regards Englans as his home or not, some Eng fans have not accepted KP as their own player even after he played 88 tests. While the current Eng line up is good but they don't have one batsman who can be called as GREAT. KP is the only one who approaches that level when he is on song like he did in the 1st innings. Players like Cook and Trott will never be great players while Strauss' days are almost gone now. Bell is the other one but while he can be magical on his day, he has his own issues too. I just don't understand why KP is being faulted here. KP think his work load is too much and this is a very subjective opinion, none of us should comment on that. It is ECB that is being rigid and not KP. Why tie T20s with ODIs anyways? On one hand it is lamented that ODIs and T20s are overtaking the sheen of Tests yet when a player wants to quit them and play only Tests, he is dealt like this? Makes me sad. :-(

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:49 GMT)

KP is a Great Player...England would never have won a t20 world cup or Ashes or so many other test matches if KP was not part of it. You can say as much as you want about no player is bigger than a team but if KP leaves, England will not be the same ever again....No other player in England is half as classy or aggressive or match winner as KP is....

Posted by Chris_Howard on (August 6, 2012, 23:49 GMT)

KP is still my fave player in the world to watch. Hope England don't screw things up.

Posted by Ross_Co on (August 6, 2012, 23:47 GMT)

Does this mean he will go back to saffa and play for his..you know....actual country?

Posted by Oldpunk on (August 6, 2012, 23:45 GMT)

I hope the ECB/Flower stands firm. He should be dropped from the 3rd test team. Let him go and play T20. What would a dedicated professional cricketer choose - playing international test cricket for "your country" or domestic T20 cricket in India. I wonder if he has been watching the Olympics? Does he get it?

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:41 GMT)

He should just go. I'm sure England would be able to get over him.sick of all the 'I' factor in his speech.evidently he doesnt care about the team.let him be replaced by someone who does.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (August 6, 2012, 23:40 GMT)

Impressed to see that only anti-KP posts are getting on here. Hardly gives a real idea of who wants what. Objectivity requires balance.

Posted by Sam097 on (August 6, 2012, 23:38 GMT)

Its now time for the Indian Cricket team to learn from this. No player is bigger than the game but the 39 year old Sachin has been picking and choosing for the last few years. He needs to retire gracefully and not be selfish anymore. This also shows the cultural difference between India and England and the importance of team unity.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:35 GMT)

Test cricket is boring. I don't blame him ... more T20s and ODIs please.

Posted by Mistress76uk on (August 6, 2012, 23:34 GMT)

I'm sorry, but if you are picked to play for England, then England should be where your allegiance lies. You cannot cherry pick what you will or will not play because you make more money in the IPL. If you don't play for England, then you really should not bother being in the team.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:32 GMT)

Just look at the arrogance of the man. He only wanted to play for England to get on with international cricket. He never had England's interest as a priority. He thinks a lot of himself. He is just a slogger and not even a stylish batsman you would love to watch. Anyone can come on and slog, turn out lucky. Look at his stats. He is bad for the team, bad for England's image. He was not considered good enough to play for his own mother country. Good riddens I say. There are plenty of talent in England who will work and play as a team member. Who does he think he is to make all the selfish demands. A self centred, self orientated selfish person will be no lost to our team. We have done very well without him.

Posted by Windies2Dheart on (August 6, 2012, 23:31 GMT)

I beg to differ with a lot of opinions. Although KP is a special talent, i get the feeling that he thinks that he's bigger than english cricket. KP simply wants to play tests when he feels like merely to keep his international appeal going. His heart has really been won by the IPl. Pay attention to his comments and u realise that his primary concern is making the KP name bigger. The sooner ECB gets rid of him the less damage he'll do to the unity among their current squad.

Posted by drice on (August 6, 2012, 23:30 GMT)

For all the talk, fact is KP is the best player in the team.He failed in UAE and England batsmen were brutalized. The two strong performances(don't consider West Indies series a strong performance) were both almost exclusively on his back. englands other batsmen can beat up on weak/disinterested bowling attacks but against any quality bowling attacks he is critical. The only thing resembling a great batsman in England's batting line up.

Posted by Hardy1 on (August 6, 2012, 23:28 GMT)

There really does need to be a time slot for the IPL now. While it may be the country who pay the wages throughout the year & manage the players for the vast majority, it's unrealistic to expect them to not want to play in a league that gives them the opportunity to become millionaires & in the end it'll just end up damaging the countries themselves.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:22 GMT)

It is good for KP. He is a Gayle for England and IPL. Through IPL, he can at least make good money for his old days.

Posted by jezzastyles on (August 6, 2012, 23:21 GMT)

Yep, it's not about the money, I guess he just wants to play IPL for the "challenge". What utter crap - it's always about the money, sure, there are other factors involved, but does KP honestly believe the average punter doesn't think money is one of the key issues. Having said that, MONEY always talks, so I have no problem with a character such as KP, possessing such extraordinary talent, expecting a bigger slice of the pie. It's also very sad that "private" conversations with ECB representatives have been leaked, and I have no doubt it was instigated by more politically savvy ECB members - as KP stated in the article, part of the manipulation of his image, so the smear campaign had begun. After his breathtaking display of batting genius at Headingly, I hope the 3rd test won't herald the end of his career, but who knows. KP is renowned for his ego, it seems there are plenty of similar individuals who are ECB members. Best of luck to KP.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:21 GMT)

Not sure who to blame ECB or KP. ECB has a point- no player is bigger than the game itself especially if one present their point forcefully and arrogantly. ECB will need to decide as to who they want in the team. Someone brilliant like KP (though inconsistent) or some one less brilliant but a true team player.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:19 GMT)

While KP's frustration is somewat understandable, it is also true that preferential treatment cannot be meted out to more established players...primarily bcoz it may set a dangerous precedent..however, I see an interesting parallel between KP and tendulkar in this regard..effectively, he is picking the ODIs he plays in without any other indian player (junior or senior) protesting or requesting the same luxury...it is also true that KP, whilst undoubtedly a very fine player, can never have the iconic status as Sachin that sets him apart...bottomline..I think KP shud continue playing tests at the international level and play limited overs cricket as a freelancer in lucrative leagues around the world..All the best KP..hope all turns out fine

Posted by Sam097 on (August 6, 2012, 23:17 GMT)

Indian Cricket team needs to learn from this. 39 year old Sachin Tendulkar has been picking and choosing for the last few years. KP being a dominant player like he is can't do the same. This shows cultural differences between England and India. Player is never bigger than the game and I think Sachin should call it a day now.

Posted by Number_5 on (August 6, 2012, 23:15 GMT)

KP is one of those players you love watching play. Its always great to see him perform and that's coming from and Aussie. That said, this article sounds like it was all me, me, me. If he doesn't want to play for his country BUT wants to go play IPL then he shouldn't be considered for an Eng cap. If you want some hit and giggle, wait till you retire like Warne, Gilchrist and Hayden and then go play. The reality is no one outside India gives a toss about the IPL and it should be country before the individual every time. What do you stand for KP?

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:15 GMT)

KP is the only star in an otherwise drab England team. He deserves special treatment of the type Tendulkar gets in India. He is South African and as such he owes no loyalty to England or the ECB. Having gone down the Road of inducting South Africans and Irishmen into the England team the ECB can have no cause for complaint when guys like Pietersen speak their mind.England will be a poorer team without KP, a slide to mid table mediocrity is inevitable.

Posted by Tigg on (August 6, 2012, 23:13 GMT)

KP should go. No player is bigger than the team. He wants special treatment. He won't get it. ECB and Flower should cut him loose now and get over it like they have in ODIs.

As good a player as he is England haven't been carried on his back as many would have us believe (since '09 Cook has scored more runs, and Cook, Trott and Bell all have higher averages). Play 5 bowlers next game, bring in a Hildreth or Compton for future series. This also gives Bell the opportunity to bat at 4 instead of wasting him at 5.

Posted by Meety on (August 6, 2012, 23:12 GMT)

Interesting piece, KP's words if true, really do present him in a much different light. However, the picking & choosing aspect of his "wishlist" is not something I'd be happy about if I were the ECB. If Kp is on a central contract, he needs to be available for all tests (since he is retired from other formats), & it is up to the ECN to manage his workload, which strictly speaking for a batsmen playing ONE format is less of a concern than for a bowler.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 23:10 GMT)

"For me, the saddest part about all this is that the spectators just love watching me play..."

At least he's humble... As much as I can see his point, as a South African I can't help but see KP as the problem, he said much the same about the CSA (admittedly they are worthless and some of his points were valid). However KP seems to be the type of person who has very little stomach for the hard road, if it's not going his way, he's not happy and he will never bite the bullet...

Posted by SagirParkar on (August 6, 2012, 23:04 GMT)

and here we go once again.. the saga continues... first South Africa, then Nottingham, then Hampshire and looks like England and eventually Surrey will follow suit and exclude KP from their squads.. the guy is terrific to watch when on song.. if only he maintained a degree of consistency and didnt give administrators such a headache.. sadly his ego is too huge to be accommodated in any dressing room..

Posted by crindo77 on (August 6, 2012, 23:03 GMT)

Some players are good, some are teamplayers, some are excellent, and then there are the champions. Like KP. He can win you matches singlehandedly, like Sachin, Warne, Akram. And as was so bluntly stated by KP today, people love to watch him. True. If Flower and co insist its one for all, this may well go down messier than Gayle vs WICB. And we all know how that ended. It aint a fair world, the rules ARE different for different people as we all know; so after all this acquired wisdom , its sad to see dirty linen being threatened to be brought out. True, there no 'I' in team; there is more than one in 'winning', though.

Posted by bWayne66 on (August 6, 2012, 22:57 GMT)

Good riddance! Pietersen's play is too inconsistent to bother with his drama.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:54 GMT)

He's like the Ganguly of England!

Posted by ExplicitPlatinum on (August 6, 2012, 22:50 GMT)

As a Pak fan, Pietersen is really England's Shahid Afridi. Both have the same burning passion for the game and are both charismatic. I'm sure Pietersen will come back after this spat, he can't resist.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:48 GMT)

KP is a special talent to perform with all this undue pressure that he creates for himelf.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:46 GMT)

Go KP. Go...You da man............

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:44 GMT)

oh its so sad that he is hurt

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:40 GMT)

The K. P. issue shows a monumental failure in the ECB management system. Whilst no one person is bigger than the game, clearly the game has changed and as such the demands on the players. Why can't professional cricket be like other sports and recognise this? I see that "resting" players has crept in ......but it has to be more realistic than this!!!! We can't waste talent like this!!! We want to be the best. That means being the best in every aspect of the game including management!!!! I could rant on ...but I think if you are still reading this you have gathered my tenure!!!!

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:35 GMT)

The Cricketing World is going through some serious changes now which is great to see :)

Posted by Baundele on (August 6, 2012, 22:32 GMT)

When the system has problems, someone needs to be courageous enough to speak out. I admire guys like KP and Gayle.

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:25 GMT)

kevin is the man ECB is just against him for no apparent reason

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:18 GMT)

Just work out how many matches and series they won because of Pietersen. Who is the leak? Got to love this.

Come and play in Qld Kevin we will treat you the way a great player should be played. After winning the Ashes for them in 2005 this man should be given all he wants!! You did it for Freddie, why not KP?

Posted by   on (August 6, 2012, 22:11 GMT)

Where is the 'astonishing attack on England teammates'? I see ECB mentioned by KP but nothing else.

England need to play five bowlers at Lords, so maybe leaving out KP is the right thing. Then again he often players his best when he perceives the world is against him. Tough call ahead

Posted by KingOwl on (August 6, 2012, 22:07 GMT)

I meant, KP deserves an apology...

Posted by KingOwl on (August 6, 2012, 22:06 GMT)

KP wants special treatment and that is unfair, and it would be a huge surprise if he got it, because that would mean that the ECB really has no self respect. But his complaints about news about him being leaked is very understandable and KP is quite entitled to be very upset. I think on that, KP owes and apology.

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