England's Pietersen dilemma August 13, 2012

Pietersen clings to Twenty20 hope

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The next significant date in the current dispute between Kevin Pietersen and the ECB is looming on Saturday with the deadline for England to name their World Twenty20 squad.

Confidential negotiations are still ongoing and Pietersen's representatives have not given up on him being considered for the squad if the situation is resolved.

Pietersen was dropped for the third Test against South Africa after failing to provide assurances that the text messages he sent to South African players were not derogatory towards team-mates, including Andrew Strauss, as has been alleged.

The ECB delayed naming the squad for the third Test by five hours to allow Pietersen time to clarify what was in the text messages but no reply was forthcoming. Pietersen, who on Saturday evening released a YouTube video stating his commitment to all cricket for England, responded by saying he was "gutted" to be dropped and wanted to continue his international career.

As with the Test squad the Twenty20 party was selected during a meeting at Edgbaston last week before Pietersen released his video announcing his commitment to all international cricket. Having previously retired from limited-overs cricket in June, Pietersen's name was not in the provisional 30-man list although that in itself does not preclude selection for the tournament.

However, given the tension surrounding both parties, led by Pietersen's refusal to confirm the content of text messages, it would appear a long shot for there to be a chance of resolution before the squad deadline. And, having made such a play of team spirit and unity with the decision to drop Pietersen, the selectors and Andy Flower will not be about to make any swift about turns.

When interviewed on Sunday Hugh Morris, the managing director of England cricket, strongly hinted that the next stage in trying to reach a conclusion will come when the next round of contracts are issued in September, rather than for any imminent squads.

"The selectors will be considering contracts in the coming weeks and those recommendations will go to the board and it is up to them to have a look at this issue," he said.

There is potential for Pietersen to return to action this week for Surrey if he made himself available for the County Championship match against Middlesex. Richard Gould, the Surrey chief executive, said they would be "happy" to have Pietersen if he felt ready to play but as of Monday afternoon had not heard anything.

South Africa, meanwhile, have continued to distance themselves from the ongoing situation and have repeated their statement that the ECB have not made any approach to them to reveal the content of the messages and that the comments were "banter".

"There have been untruthful allegations in the media implicating members of our squad in the current issue between Kevin Pietersen and the ECB," team manager, Dr Mohammed Moosajee, said. "We stand by the same stance we have taken since we heard the news about these allegations.

"Yes, text messages were sent but like we said before it was banter among team-mates, which is perfectly acceptable. The ECB has not made a formal approach to myself or any member of the team to see the text messages, as currently reported in the media.

"Allegations that Dale Steyn and AB de Villiers were the recipients of the texts are unfounded. Until such time that the allegations are met with the correct facts and evidence, we shall not comment.

"The internal issue between Kevin Pietersen and the English cricket board has been publicised for weeks, even before we arrived in the UK and we don't want to get ourselves involved in an issue that has nothing to do with us."

Gary Kirsten, the South Africa coach, said the team's preparations for Lord's were no different. "We will focus on the work we do. We respect the opposition and will not take any Test match for granted. We will look at what the other team has and what areas we can exploit. We don't look too closely at individuals. It's no different to any other Test match."

The ECB, meanwhile, will want to find out why Pietersen went ahead with his YouTube video despite being advised otherwise and is unlikely to be impressed with his specific reference to having spoken to Delhi Daredevils, his IPL franchise, ahead of his announcement while seemingly not keeping his major employers in the loop and his presumption that he would play in "Straussy's 100th Test".

During the interview Pietersen also said he had had an hour-long clear-the-air conversation with a team-mate and the Daily Mail named Matt Prior as the player who attempted to be a go-between between Pietersen and Flower. At the moment, however, it is picking up the phone to the ECB that is Pietersen's only option.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 14, 2012, 20:36 GMT

    @Hira1 on (August 14 2012, 01:07 AM GMT) As I have put before to David Hill , I have no knowledge of how these things work but I still don't see how Flower (unless he was the person who tried to stitch KP up by tweeting/texting himself - which would seem highly unlikely?) is involved. And who is Bailsthebadger anyway? Besides KP was given the whole of Sunday morning to clarify the content of the texts. If he had nothing to hide why did he not do so?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 14, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @Jose Puliampatta on (August 14 2012, 08:50 AM GMT) Not sure either way whether he will change. Depending on what someone's done , I'm for giving folk a second chance.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 14, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @Lmaotsetung on (August 14 2012, 04:40 AM GMT) I half agree , but I feel most Eng fans do want KP playing for England but the difference is that we are not clouded by our views of him as a player to judge ECBs decision , especially without knowing exactly what has been said etc.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | August 14, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    The best thing for SA is to forget about the ranking and play their natural game. Let Steyn fire in all the cylinders, Kallis, Smith, Amla and ABDV dig-in deep and the rest will fall in place. As an Aussie , worried about a prospect though - the last time SA won a test-series in Eng, they won it in Aus as well .

  • POSTED BY thebrotherswaugh on | August 14, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    @Hammond - yeah, we do, but your feckless bunch of asphyiating under-achievers need some decent bowlers. I remember that post you wrote a few weeks back, Finn to be #1 bowler within 3-years. Lovely dream mate, several young AUS bowlers with far more ability & talent than him - and yes, they WILL be on the pitch come the next Ashes, and they'll be ripping through the ENG top-order like a scythe through wheat. For all the hype about Anderson, he's been ordinary of late, and his career record isn't stellar. 72tests, 270 wickets @ 30.41 each; compare to MJ from AUS (yeah, that bloke you've often put it too), 47 tests, 190 wickets @ 31.29 each - except for the no. of tests played, remarkably similar stats. Yet we never hear anyone having a go at the "golden boy". Don't worry, Saffers will dominate him at Lords, and in IND he'll be lucky average < 50/wicket!! As for Swann, as RandyOZ has been trying to educate you Pom fans - he should stick to writing books, because he's a crap bowler.

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | August 14, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    @Ross_Co on (August 14 2012, 11:47 AM GMT) - I'm referring to England of course.. the country which KP CHOSE to make his home, rather than living here as a mere accident of birth. What is absolutely wrong is all the Asian/African/West Indian immigrants who come to the UK to make their living and benefit from the advantages that our multi-cultural country offers, yet continue to wave the flags of their birth land. We rightly welcome them here but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to support this country in any sporting events. If I choose to live elsewhere (as I may indeed do before long, as I despise the Manchester weather!) then you can be assured that I would support the country where I choose to make my home in any sporting match they may have against England. KP chose to be English so deserves our respect for that.

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | August 14, 2012, 12:16 GMT

    @Si Baker - I'm not being argumentative here but I'd genuinely love to know how you know so much about the recipients and content of KP's texts. All I've found so far is that KP definitely sent some texts to one or more SA players, which was reported to be AB and Steyn, though this seemed to be denied by the SA manager. No content of the texts has ever been disclosed as far as I'm aware, though it was said to include "derogatory comments" about Strauss and, I believe Flower/ECB. Do you know something the rest of us don't and if so, please share!! For my part, I don't see the fuss. It's one thing to say something publicly on Twitter that may undermine the team management/morale, but surely a private text to whoever is exactly that - a PRIVATE text! If KP felt aggrieved by something Strauss may have done/said, then KP has a right to express that "in confidence" to a friend. We all moan to friends about our boss!! Much as I despise the man, Piers Morgan has for once got this right!

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | August 14, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    @FreddyForPrimeMinister -"a hugely talented batsman who ultimately let down himself and his country" - err, which country are you talking about exactly?

  • POSTED BY TheScot on | August 14, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    @Si Baker: I think you are refering to Piers Morgan (a journalist/media personality) who has come out in Kevin's defend, rather than Eoin Morgan, the cricketer?

  • POSTED BY warnerbasher on | August 14, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    And Pakistan front foot Lunge or have you forgotten 0 -3 in the UAE.But I do agree that SA and England are the 2 best teams in the world. The efforts of Australia A on tour at the moment hardly fill me with confidence for the future. I think the Aussie bowling is getting closer to England's bowling but our batting is nowhere near the batting of England with or without KP. While they may be dour give me Trott and Cook over Warner and Watson any day as test batsmen.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 14, 2012, 20:36 GMT

    @Hira1 on (August 14 2012, 01:07 AM GMT) As I have put before to David Hill , I have no knowledge of how these things work but I still don't see how Flower (unless he was the person who tried to stitch KP up by tweeting/texting himself - which would seem highly unlikely?) is involved. And who is Bailsthebadger anyway? Besides KP was given the whole of Sunday morning to clarify the content of the texts. If he had nothing to hide why did he not do so?

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 14, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @Jose Puliampatta on (August 14 2012, 08:50 AM GMT) Not sure either way whether he will change. Depending on what someone's done , I'm for giving folk a second chance.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 14, 2012, 16:55 GMT

    @Lmaotsetung on (August 14 2012, 04:40 AM GMT) I half agree , but I feel most Eng fans do want KP playing for England but the difference is that we are not clouded by our views of him as a player to judge ECBs decision , especially without knowing exactly what has been said etc.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | August 14, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    The best thing for SA is to forget about the ranking and play their natural game. Let Steyn fire in all the cylinders, Kallis, Smith, Amla and ABDV dig-in deep and the rest will fall in place. As an Aussie , worried about a prospect though - the last time SA won a test-series in Eng, they won it in Aus as well .

  • POSTED BY thebrotherswaugh on | August 14, 2012, 14:33 GMT

    @Hammond - yeah, we do, but your feckless bunch of asphyiating under-achievers need some decent bowlers. I remember that post you wrote a few weeks back, Finn to be #1 bowler within 3-years. Lovely dream mate, several young AUS bowlers with far more ability & talent than him - and yes, they WILL be on the pitch come the next Ashes, and they'll be ripping through the ENG top-order like a scythe through wheat. For all the hype about Anderson, he's been ordinary of late, and his career record isn't stellar. 72tests, 270 wickets @ 30.41 each; compare to MJ from AUS (yeah, that bloke you've often put it too), 47 tests, 190 wickets @ 31.29 each - except for the no. of tests played, remarkably similar stats. Yet we never hear anyone having a go at the "golden boy". Don't worry, Saffers will dominate him at Lords, and in IND he'll be lucky average < 50/wicket!! As for Swann, as RandyOZ has been trying to educate you Pom fans - he should stick to writing books, because he's a crap bowler.

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | August 14, 2012, 13:47 GMT

    @Ross_Co on (August 14 2012, 11:47 AM GMT) - I'm referring to England of course.. the country which KP CHOSE to make his home, rather than living here as a mere accident of birth. What is absolutely wrong is all the Asian/African/West Indian immigrants who come to the UK to make their living and benefit from the advantages that our multi-cultural country offers, yet continue to wave the flags of their birth land. We rightly welcome them here but I don't think it's unreasonable to expect them to support this country in any sporting events. If I choose to live elsewhere (as I may indeed do before long, as I despise the Manchester weather!) then you can be assured that I would support the country where I choose to make my home in any sporting match they may have against England. KP chose to be English so deserves our respect for that.

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | August 14, 2012, 12:16 GMT

    @Si Baker - I'm not being argumentative here but I'd genuinely love to know how you know so much about the recipients and content of KP's texts. All I've found so far is that KP definitely sent some texts to one or more SA players, which was reported to be AB and Steyn, though this seemed to be denied by the SA manager. No content of the texts has ever been disclosed as far as I'm aware, though it was said to include "derogatory comments" about Strauss and, I believe Flower/ECB. Do you know something the rest of us don't and if so, please share!! For my part, I don't see the fuss. It's one thing to say something publicly on Twitter that may undermine the team management/morale, but surely a private text to whoever is exactly that - a PRIVATE text! If KP felt aggrieved by something Strauss may have done/said, then KP has a right to express that "in confidence" to a friend. We all moan to friends about our boss!! Much as I despise the man, Piers Morgan has for once got this right!

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | August 14, 2012, 11:47 GMT

    @FreddyForPrimeMinister -"a hugely talented batsman who ultimately let down himself and his country" - err, which country are you talking about exactly?

  • POSTED BY TheScot on | August 14, 2012, 11:11 GMT

    @Si Baker: I think you are refering to Piers Morgan (a journalist/media personality) who has come out in Kevin's defend, rather than Eoin Morgan, the cricketer?

  • POSTED BY warnerbasher on | August 14, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    And Pakistan front foot Lunge or have you forgotten 0 -3 in the UAE.But I do agree that SA and England are the 2 best teams in the world. The efforts of Australia A on tour at the moment hardly fill me with confidence for the future. I think the Aussie bowling is getting closer to England's bowling but our batting is nowhere near the batting of England with or without KP. While they may be dour give me Trott and Cook over Warner and Watson any day as test batsmen.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 10:46 GMT

    And hats off to Eoin Morgan for having the guts & the integrity to highlight the ECB's hypocrisy: an act that will probably cost *him* his Test career as well, as it will no doubt have gone down like a lead balloon with both the ECB cabal & his erstwhile team-mates. During his Sky TV interview on Sunday, Hugh Morris bleated on about "Trust and unity of purpose". Where was the trust displayed towards KP when someone in a senior position at the ECB leaked the details of KP's ongoing contract negotiations? Why is it deemed OK for KP's team-mates to publicly ridicule him by proxy via Richard Bailey's kindergarten Twitter posts, but unforgivable when KP lashes out by dissing Strauss (& *only* Strauss, incidentally: neither Andy Flower nor any of KP's other team-mates were mentioned in those texts) in a couple of ostensibly private text messages sent to AB de Villiers & Dale Steyn via Morne Morkel; & which were judged to be nothing more than "banter" by the South African management?

  • POSTED BY cerratic on | August 14, 2012, 10:41 GMT

    Pietersen is acting like a Diva AGAIN. He comes up with a controversy every few months which throws everybody into a frenzy. Dump him and give new talent a chance.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | August 14, 2012, 10:38 GMT

    @dariuscorny- I'm in good company here then!

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 10:31 GMT

    Fan1969

    I can promise you that KP is now learning and will continue to learn in the next weeks that he needs international cricket far more than it needs him. This is the way it is and the way it should be for all players. If he does go and get lost in India for a few months playing IPL joke cricket for the retired and yet to be anythings (with a few good players thrown in) he will soon coming back begging for his place.

  • POSTED BY dariuscorny on | August 14, 2012, 10:20 GMT

    @ Hammond and you are one of them....

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 10:17 GMT

    KP is bit like David Beckham. Flashy, stylish, rich and people love to watch them. Both are unsettled in their respective countries and receive red carpet treatments in USA and India. As a result jealousy of team mates and organisational issues comes into equation. Stuart Pearce dropped Beckham and think Andy Flowers dropped Pietersen. I remember a dialogue from a recent Indian film that Every one talk about love but most of times solution is found in war.

  • POSTED BY rahulcricket007 on | August 14, 2012, 10:14 GMT

    IF ECB DROPS KP THEN THEY SHOULD ALSO DROP SWANN FROM THE TEAM . REMEMBER HE WRITE A BOOK IN WHICH HE OPENLY CRITICIZE KP FOR POOR CAPTAINCY DURING INDIA 'S TOUR & PETER MOOORES DEBACLE .

  • POSTED BY Fan1969 on | August 14, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    I think T20 is taking over the world of cricket and TEST cricket is in serious danger. Around the year some T20 tournament going on is a distinct possibility. Money is great and players will be tempted. But....T20 can never distinguish a Keiron Pollard from Sachin Tendulkar or Jacques Kallis. ECB and England team management have failed ALL cricket fans in its inability to handle sports stars like KP. KP is immature and needs to be managed. India has many "stars" and BCCI seems to manage well. WICA also failed ALL OF US by keeping Gayle out for so long.

    ECB and the management (incl. Strauss and Flower) have managed KP poorly. ECB has done all fans a great disservice by allowing a situation to develop where KP may have to leave English cricket on the eve of the most important TEST in 2012.

    As a fan I think ECB should own up to the massive and continuous goof ups. Resign.

    All fans deserved to see the best players play the best TEST and not compromise. Long live TEST cricket!!

  • POSTED BY FreddyForPrimeMinister on | August 14, 2012, 9:40 GMT

    @Selassie-I... absolutely right, mate. Money can bring you lots of benefits in life but I can't believe KP doesn't have enough now, especially with his on-going ECB contract for maybe the next 5 years (until he retires properly). If he leaves now however, he will forever be remembered as a hugely talented batsman who ultimately let down himself and his country. However, if he does whatever it takes (which may include swallowing pride and making genuine, unfettered apologies to those affected) then he still has the opportunity to become a true legend of the game. Ask Mo Farah or Jessica Ennis right now, which is more important to them - the money that they earn or the success of competing at the very highest level possible along with the admiration of every sports fan in the world and the undiluted adoration of the whole country. Think hard, Kev... think very hard...

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 9:33 GMT

    Having now looked at every single one of those 'KPGenius' Twitter posts, I declare myself far more sympathetic towards KP than I was previously. Aside from the fact that they're about as subtle & witty as a pile of steaming ordure, there's a deep undercurrent of genuine spite running through them. The fact that Richard Bailey, the author of the posts, is said to be a close personal friend of both Stuart Broad & Graeme Swann, speaks volumes about the level of respect displayed towards KP by his team-mates. Why didn't Bailey's pals simply ask him to stop posting such inane & offensive rubbish? Why didn't Strauss, for that matter? They should be ashamed of themselves. Anyone who's ever been at the receiving end of being ganged up on by workmates/team-mates (it's happened to me just once, & it was a deeply unpleasant experience) will know that it generates a defensive & resentful state of mind on the part of the victim; & one that is highly likely to lead to a desire to strike back.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    No one seems to have pointed out that it is only KP who has an issue with his contract. IPL or no IPL all the other players have accepted the terms and want to get on with playing for England. Each year these contracts are renewed or cancelled, therefore every 12 months the players have a choice of what to do.

  • POSTED BY sharidas on | August 14, 2012, 9:19 GMT

    Not having Kevin Pietersen in the team is not a disaster. Every Player can be replaced, and just because KP made a huge contribution in the 2nd Test does not mean that he will do it again. In the first test he scored 42 and 16. I am sure, his replacement will do a good job. A hundred from him and then see what happens!!!!

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | August 14, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    Once again, really love how everyone criticised England for having too many South African born players in the side, and hey presto, they dump one and put in an English born player and suddenly the ECB are villains and everyone is clamouring for KP to remain in the side. There are lots of really moronic cricket followers around.

  • POSTED BY Ghal on | August 14, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    You have got to laugh. English cricket is just reaping what it sowed when it took him in. Better to be a home-grown team at no.3 or 4 in the world than to be no.1 beholden to cricketing mercenaries. Simple question for the selection panel "Is the team without KP more likely to win than a team with KP?". If yes, then bye bye KP. If no, then do you really want to win that badly? Sometimes there is more glory in defeat than in victory.

  • POSTED BY Selassie-I on | August 14, 2012, 8:59 GMT

    At first I didn't but now I think in the long run the ECB might be doing the right thing here, it doesn't seem as if any other (England) player is in his corner here. Yes, he's important, but not as important as Jimmy, cook, trott, broad, bell, prior, strauss, finn and everyone else in the team. He doesn't have time to switch his allegiance again in his career, really it's up to him, does he leave international cricket and play as a T20 mercenary, leaving this as his legacy or if he wants to go on and play back to back ashes, the WC and be a star for England and be remembered as a top international performer, he only has one chance to write his legacy and it seems as if his decision must be made now.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 14, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    @Cricket_vs_Football on (August 14 2012, 07:53 AM GMT), in case you haven't noticed, a great many England fans are behind the ECB, assuming that KP is indeed rocking the boat. It's all KP's IPL fans who are wailing about his being mistreated. All England fans care about winning matches but keeping a rotten apple around is not the best way to win and if caving to the demands of a prima donna are the only way to win then I'll live without winning. I'm not saying that KP is those things because I don't have all the facts but if he is then I'd rather the integrity of the team be made first priority.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_vs_Football on | August 14, 2012, 8:57 GMT

    English is a selfish team, they only think about themselves. Not about Country? Not about wiinnning matches? otherwise they wud have given chance to KP.

  • POSTED BY PrasPunter on | August 14, 2012, 8:52 GMT

    @disco_bob, thats right - just an year and normal order is about to be restored. I doubt if Eng can ever achieve what we have - 4 WCs ( including 3 in a row ), test series wins against all nations overseas, 16 test victories in a row ( twice ) and so on and so forth. The jealousy that Front-foot-lunge talks about is precisely applicable to Eng.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 8:50 GMT

    @JG2704. Wow can this guy, KP, promise that such shenanigans will never happen again? Everyone knows that it will happen again...again...and...again! In his sub-conscious mind, he also must be knowing that. A leopard never sheds its spots! Such leopards need to be sent back to the jungles.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    lot of drama between ECB & KP kevin pietersen want to retirement odis and twenty20s. now he talking about i m available for all cricket format. What's Going On Here? KP big drama between South Africa test series. South Africa have big bowling & batting attack England can't face SA..

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | August 14, 2012, 8:38 GMT

    KP must remain quite for the time being and let ECB, straus and Flower taste their own medicine...............England is surely going to loose the last test, T20 world cup, series in India and Ashes and then flower and straus will be out and Pietersen in with full glory...............Its just patience that is require from KP which is surely missing in him!

  • POSTED BY Munkeymomo on | August 14, 2012, 8:04 GMT

    @RandyOz: We'll miss him for sure, but now that Kev's got some free time to go and play in Australia he can teach your youngsters a thing or two. That Lyon bloke could really do with KPs help...

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 7:57 GMT

    @Andrew McGlashen: "The next significant date in the current dispute"... Sounds like a Multi- Stage Run-Away Rocket. And the control room desperately trying to bring it back to the right orbit... at least before the next stage fires... ... or jettison it in the Pacific Ocean! ... depending on your stand on the issue ... and on "the man" on the one side and "the men" on the other.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_vs_Football on | August 14, 2012, 7:53 GMT

    English is a selfish team, they only think about themselves. Not about Country? Not about wiinnning matches? otherwise they wud have given chance to KP.

  • POSTED BY Ross_Co on | August 14, 2012, 7:46 GMT

    How can he make the 'England' T20 squad if he is playing for South Africa in the 3rd Test?

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 14, 2012, 7:43 GMT

    @Lmaotsetung on (August 14 2012, 04:40 AM GMT), I'm not sure that it's fair to say that most England fans don't care if KP stays or goes. I for one would like KP to play but if circumstances dictate that he doesn't I say so be it. I have to agree with you that a large number of those supporting KP are fans from the subcontinent and don't know or care much about English cricket and what might be best for it. If KP is a disruptive influence then the team as a whole may be better off without him. It's hard to see how it could just be business as usual after all this.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 14, 2012, 7:38 GMT

    @RandyOZ on (August 14 2012, 04:43 AM GMT), I guess they could just select Kerrigan. He seemed to roll through Aus A without breaking a sweat and I seem to recall one witless commenter suggesting that they could be the fourth best Test team.

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 14, 2012, 7:35 GMT

    @Hira1 on (August 14 2012, 06:41 AM GMT), KP's team mates didn't call him a distraction. they said that this whole affair that he is at the centre of is a distraction. If KP hadn't started the whole thing then they never would have said that, so to say that that has to be sorted out first is just stupid. If KP is going to apologise publicly then that tells me that he did send derogatory text messages as accused. If that is the case then, public apology or not, it's unlikely that there won't be some resentment in the dressing room if he does rejoin the team.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 7:25 GMT

    @front-foot-lunge England did not come third in the Olympics - Great Britain did. And, just like the English cricket team, with a lot of help from immigrants.

  • POSTED BY Cricket_vs_Football on | August 14, 2012, 7:12 GMT

    KP KP KPPP..... somewhere u r rite! but somewhere u r wrong too

  • POSTED BY Plz_Dont_Get_Whitewashed on | August 14, 2012, 7:11 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lounge - Blah blah blah blah .... Banter! ... @Everybody else - KP KP KP KP KP KP KP KP !! :)

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | August 14, 2012, 6:41 GMT

    @ jmcilhinney latest news is ECB persuaded KP to apologize publicly...they have no proof what is send via SMS, SA has officially said what they received is just "banter", now how does ECB knows about those text contents, ECB is not bothered about who reveals close door conversation to media, the twitter account that made KP soo worried and frustrated, the man behind twitter account friendship with Broad, Swann etc, KPs colleagues criticizing him openly in media calling him distraction and all.................these issues needs to be sorted out first, I am sure once KP gets the confidence he will be served better in the coming days he will apologize in the greater interest of the game

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 6:35 GMT

    KP will become like gayle if ECB ignores him. KP will show his anger towards IPL & CL and after some months ECB will apologise him and make him into the squad, this is unnecessary. ECB should do something to KP rather than realising later.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | August 14, 2012, 6:22 GMT

    Having triumphed at the Olympics in coming THIRD in the world, and showed the other members of the cricketing world just who have the superior sportsmen and women, England have realised over the last year that being the best brings out a lot of jealousy in others, those who you have previously vanquished. And it's been a joy to behold for those that understand the rage that sometimes materializes among the beaten. England have had a tough few months, but sleep soundly in the knowledge that the rest of the world bar South Africa are so far behind them not even the supporters of those other teams can begin to claim otherwise.

  • POSTED BY Pachaiappan on | August 14, 2012, 5:53 GMT

    KP - Welcome to IPL world....

  • POSTED BY pie314 on | August 14, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    @Hammond - Love how you refer to him as a saffa when he does something stupid but not when he's actually playing for England. A bit two-faced there. @Front-Foot-Lunge - This is a cricket forum mate, not a forum for the Olympics. As for Pietersen, its always sad to see such a talented cricketer to do down this path and the ECB and English "media" have done him no favours by scrutinising every action he takes. I sincerely hopes he cleans up his act so the world can see the wonderful cricket he produces.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 5:48 GMT

    KP..KP..KP....can you people talk about someone more important. This guy is too full of himself! He is gone, so what! Move on! Pay more attention to the U19 world cup that is happening now. After all, they are the future stars!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 5:18 GMT

    If he really sent text messages, how did they come to know about it? Did the South African who received, revealed that? KP is betrayed by friends then.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 5:15 GMT

    KP is one of the reason i watch Test Cricket. This is really disgusting what is happening to cricket. Dropping KP from the squad has surely made this tour less interesting. I guess everyone would support the fact that 2nd test was very interesting n fun to watch due to his aggressive century he made even though it was a draw. Not a good decision ECB!

  • POSTED BY RandyOZ on | August 14, 2012, 4:43 GMT

    Everyone, including the English, know how bare the cupboard is when it comes to batting, there is just nothing coming through, so to lose KP is a big blow. However, more concerning is the bowling, how are they going to take 20 wickets without their number 1 spinner, KP?!

  • POSTED BY Lmaotsetung on | August 14, 2012, 4:40 GMT

    Funny how most England fans could care less if KP is gone and accept ECB decision while most KP fans are from the subcontinent who do not even follow English cricket save for the Indian series last year and have no clue what the issues are. The ECB don't make rash decision...everything is carefully calculated and if you guys think losing KP will be such a blow, think again. When was the last time KP carried Eng to victory? Sri Lanka this year for sure but can't think of any test matches in the last 2-3 years. Even the SL inning he played selfishly. When Bell was gone the right thing to do was to stick with Samit and rebuild but noooo...it was too hot out there. Only way to play was the KP way...he refused to do the hard work. Last test, brilliant inning but WAIT...when Eng needed him to go on and put SA under pressure the next day what happens? He lose his wicket without adding to his overnight score. Bell deserve to move up in the lineup. Maybe time to use 5 bowlers.

  • POSTED BY thebrotherswaugh on | August 14, 2012, 4:12 GMT

    @ChobeMonster - I hope they do as well. KP can sit back, pocket a truckload of cash from the IPL, and have a chuckle while ENG continue the inevitable slide down the rankings into utter mediocrity. @RednWhiteArmy - yep, back to reality, and that squad you named is going to be absolutely hammered by the Saffers. My prediction - ENG will not score above 325 in the 1st innings, SA will score at least 525 (minimum), and ENG will invoke the mercy clause in the 2nd dig. SA #1, AUS #2, and ENG down to #3 (but just for a little while, as IND will go through them like a dodgey curry, it'll be whitewash, they'll be #5 by next year). Both Taylor & Bairstow will struggle, hopefully one of 'em will get a pair. Swann to bowl with his normal lack of imagination and penetration, he'll be lucky to take 2 wickets - and yes, this trend will continue in IND, but all is not lost, at least he'll always have another book on the way, eh RandyOZ. Somebody needs to tell 'em how it really is, keep it up!!

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 14, 2012, 3:42 GMT

    I'm not sure where those who are saying he didn't do it are getting their information from. Obviously the ECB was informed that SOMETHING happened, or they would never have asked about it. If KP did nothing wrong, all he had to do was to say "I did nothing wrong" and that would have been the end of the matter. It's not in the ECB's interest to drop one of their premier batsmen for no reason. Logic, people, it's just logic.

  • POSTED BY Smahajan on | August 14, 2012, 3:21 GMT

    what a waste of a Talent!!!!

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 14, 2012, 2:56 GMT

    @Hira1 on (August 14 2012, 01:07 AM GMT), as far as I can see, noone is putting pressure on KP to confess to something that he didn't do. They are putting pressure on him to confirm or deny that he did it. Presumably if he had denied it then that would have been the end of it and he would have been included for this Test. The fact that he didn't deny it suggests to me that he did do it and was not willing to outright lie about it in case he got caught. That may not be the case but I can't see any other reason that he wouldn't have just said that he didn't do it if in fact he didn't do it.

  • POSTED BY mkazmi on | August 14, 2012, 2:50 GMT

    Never saw KP as a team player, glad he didn't prove me wrong. Have great respect for his batting skills though. As much as I would like to see him in world t20 and the indian tour later, I doubt ECB would want to set that kind of precedent. I think he will fizzle out of IPL in a couple of years too. At the end of the day KP has his loyalties to money only, not his native s. Africa or adopted England. Money talks after all.

  • POSTED BY EverybodylovesSachin on | August 14, 2012, 2:13 GMT

    Cricinfo..Do you have another headline stroy then KP...Enough Please bring something else..

  • POSTED BY jmcilhinney on | August 14, 2012, 1:58 GMT

    The root issues seem fairly clear. KP wanted to retire from ODIs only but wasn't allowed to so he retired from T20s too. He has now decided that he is happy to play both so, on the basis of the original issue, I see no specific impediment to his returning to the limited-overs teams. The new issue is the fact that KP is believed to have sent derogatory text messages to the opposition about his team mates. People who say that this is no big deal are fools. People who say that the ECB has no right to object are also fools because you can bet that his central contract addresses that specifically. If he didn't send such messages then ostensibly all he had to do was say so. The fact that he didn't say so suggests that he did send them. If so, bringing him back into any team and still keeping a happy dressing room could prove difficult. It would be a shame but if KP's international career ends over this then so be it. If England suffer in the short term as a result then so be it.

  • POSTED BY kensohatter on | August 14, 2012, 1:47 GMT

    Its probably clear from my previous comments that im no fan of KP and his general attitude but I do think he should be included in the 20/20 squad. Whilst he is a muppet he still has international experience which the youngsters in the squad can learn from. If he can show he is a team player in the 20/20s then maybe he can earn his way back into the test side (once he has also mended all the broken fences). Not selecting him will only push him to go play IPL.

  • POSTED BY m0se on | August 14, 2012, 1:29 GMT

    KP move to Dubai and become a T20 mercenary. Play IPL, BBL etc and make more bank that anyone else playing 3-4 months out of the year. Flower/Strauss will eventually go and KP will be begged back to the England fold. Perhaps ironically, KP sees all his SA peers get an IPL window and make crazy money while he's stuck somewhere playing some meaningless test match and he second guesses his decision to leave SA. KP is a legend for England, he would be the one to break half of England records if he would be keep the chance to keep playing for England. If he'd stayed in SA, he would have had more years to play and a more understanding board regarding the realities of modern T20.

  • POSTED BY dicky_boy on | August 14, 2012, 1:13 GMT

    @frontfootlounge, well as they say success leads to hatred from others Let me elaborate, winning 2 5050 world cups in ENGLANDand in India ,winning t20 WAC in SA , test no 1 for 2 years, won series in eng - NOW eng Founders of the game but won no world cups or series in India in 28 years lol, ask any Indian , I rather want my team to excel in cricket than in some small sports like cycling which no one cares 2 hoots about, or other small microscopic sports for that matter

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | August 14, 2012, 1:07 GMT

    @JG2704"So the KP parody account culprit @Bailsthebadger has confessed,' tweeted Morgan. 'And he's VERY good friends with Broad, Swann etc. Over to you Mr Flower.' ...what you have to say on this, they are circumstances created by Flower and other members of the English team that made Pietersen behave in a certain way and still ECB is putting every pressure on KP to confess a sin which he has not commited

  • POSTED BY Testcricfan on | August 14, 2012, 0:59 GMT

    KP has given more to the English team than any other player in the past 7 yrs and has always been the batsman to perform against tough opposition. The way things were handled in early 2009 and last year was not ideal - a player of his stature and contributions deserves more respect in the setup and organization. The problem seems to be the feeling that he was never accepted and himself never was comfortable in his skin as an Englishman. The Mercenary Jibes from the Media, Opposition Fans would not have helped. It creates an mindset where one is always defensive, insecure and looking around for validation and approval. This is being misinterpreted as Egotism, selfishness and vanity. If he is selfish, I have never seen it come out in a match situation. He always plays per the team needs unlike some other great batsmen...The situation is a result of bad Management and breakdown of communication. Hope for the sake of English Fans everything works out for the best.

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | August 14, 2012, 0:58 GMT

    They think its all over.....lets hope it is now.

    Back to the cricket 1 Strauss 2 Cook 3 Trott 4 Bell 5 Taylor 6 Prior 7 Bresnan 8 Broad 9 Swann 10 Anderson 11 Finn

    England must take 20 wickets, so Swann comes in and KP is obviously out.

  • POSTED BY disco_bob on | August 14, 2012, 0:58 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge "... England have realised over the last year that being the best brings out a lot of jealousy in others..." You make a valid point, there's a lot to be envious of. What England will have achieved in barely over a year (after Lords), took the Australians 10 years to accomplish. Namely the loss of the Number 1 crown.

  • POSTED BY on | August 14, 2012, 0:53 GMT

    I still Kevin's got a chance!!! I routing for you!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 23:11 GMT

    KP was under the impression that England cannot do without him . He will call the SHOTS when ever he wanted . KP, your time has ruan out . Those guys who think like him must understand that they are only EMPLOYEES who have an EMPLOYER .

  • POSTED BY dsig3 on | August 13, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    Englands door is closing very, very fast. Without KP they are a team of good role players. They just dont have alot of talent. Good team, but they will be found out very soon.

  • POSTED BY wifan16 on | August 13, 2012, 22:22 GMT

    get rid of him!!!...he thinks he is the best thing to ever happen to cricket...( KP that is)

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 13, 2012, 21:41 GMT

    @David Hill on (August 13 2012, 15:58 PM GMT) Interesting post there bud. Twitter and Facebook are alien worlds to me but I've always thought he was listening to the wrong people. I now just hope that he's starting to listen to the right people and I hope that if KP does make the right moves that ECB,the management and the players can give him a second chance.

  • POSTED BY fr600 on | August 13, 2012, 21:26 GMT

    KP will be included, no worries.

  • POSTED BY warnerbasher on | August 13, 2012, 21:26 GMT

    As an observer from the antipodes it seems to me that the impact of Kevin Pietersen on the English cricket team is overstated. I would suggest that the reason England became number 1 was built on the back of a world class bowling attack, a very dependable and sturdy top 3 and the best number 7 in world cricket who adds thrust to England's lower order. Pietersens batting and his attitude in my view has lost England some tests especially in Pakistan on the recent tour there. Great player on his day but in my view those days are to infrequent and never come when England are in real trouble in a match.

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | August 13, 2012, 21:04 GMT

    Having triumphed at the Olympics and showed the other members of the cricketing world just who have the superior sportsmen and women, England have realised over the last year that being the best brings out a lot of jealousy in others, those who you have previously vanquished. And it's been a joy to behold for those that understand the rage that sometimes materializes among the beaten. England have had a tough few months, but sleep soundly in the knowledge that the rest of the world bar South Africa are so far behind them not even the supporters of those other teams can begin to claim otherwise.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 13, 2012, 21:01 GMT

    @Alexk400 on (August 13 2012, 19:57 PM GMT) Firstly well done on the South Africa A comments . Very constructive and original. You obviously know a whole lot more about exactly what has happened here but as far as I have worked out , KP said he wanted to play T20s only for England which was England said no to , so KP retired from both T20 and ODIs which England accept. Flower / Eng then start planning for T20/OD future without KP , win a few games and KP then announces he wants to return. Eng had already made plans for T20wc without KP but KP was still chosen for the 1st 2 tests. If it was an ego thing would Flower not have dropped him right away rather than have him in the 1st 2 tests? Obviously something serious has gone on behind closed doors for KP to be dropped after playing such a gem of an inns last test but we don't know what.

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 13, 2012, 21:01 GMT

    @Hira1 - First of all KP retired from ODIs/T20s of his own free will. He said at the time that he would not have retired from T20s if the ODIs didn't come as a package and something about "Giving the team time to build with younger players etc" . I'm not sure if Flower even makes the ODI/T20 rule but regardless (whether we agree with it or not) it was always there and for any player who played T20s and not just KP. Also - and I might be totally wrong on this - I thought KP still had time to run on his contract when he retired so I wonder why he didn't just play out the last few months of his contract which would (I think) have taken him through the T20 WC and then retire afterwards. I think KP has been badly advised throughout but could you tell me exactly what hurdles Flower has put down specifically for KP? BTW I also hope he plays in WC

  • POSTED BY JG2704 on | August 13, 2012, 21:01 GMT

    As an England fan , I really really hope this is sorted out in time although the chances look slim to zero. From this article the problem is the content of the texts which was not resolved because KP did not clarify the content. Now it seems to me that ECB are not letting the matter go and that KP must have said some very untoward stuff in these texts otherwise surely KP would have said exactly what was in the texts. So surely what KP needs to do - and ASAP - is man up , face to face (as Bob Martin says) no reps etc and admit his mistakes , apologise unreservedly and reassure ECB that it will never happen again and hope ECB will be forgiving. I'm not saying ECB are not at fault for anything but they certainly don't look like budging so surely this is the only way.

  • POSTED BY elimomin on | August 13, 2012, 20:59 GMT

    england without KP doesnt have a strong middle order . they will struggle against the bowling attack of SA . Only KP was the player who could adjust to the conditions and play against the bowling attack of SA with courage and consistency .

  • POSTED BY ashes61 on | August 13, 2012, 20:26 GMT

    How can any ENG follower even remotely consider supporting Pietersen? We are where we are today because of a TEAM built on a strong, deep bowling attack, an intensely strong TEAM ethic, and a side which has proved again & again that it is more than the sum of its parts. This ethos was created & nurtured by two admirable leaders - Flower & Strauss. We are INCREDIBLY lucky to have Flower - a formidable coach & leader &, in my opinion, a great man.Any youngster could look up at him for genuinely heroic qualities. Strauss is not the best of strategists yet (though by no means as poor as some claim) but is a VERY effective captain through his leadership qualities, as his team has frequently emphasised. Unselfish, always the team first. Contrast all this with the selfish, childish mercenary who has caused ructions everywhere he has played. He is NOT the best player in the team - he's not even the best bat! Even if he were, so what? A v. occasional exciting innings (no more)is irrelevant.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | August 13, 2012, 20:22 GMT

    It's over Kevin the way Hales and Bell both stepped up they're not going to bring you back bro you blew it man and it's sad as a long time fan of you and your batting,

  • POSTED BY aarfeen on | August 13, 2012, 20:00 GMT

    k.p if englad don't want u.... say bye bye to eng ....& play fro aus ...they really need batsman.....

  • POSTED BY Alexk400 on | August 13, 2012, 19:57 GMT

    England team is south africa A team basically. For me England should play pieterson next TEST. But it becomes fight between two egos. Fowler and KP. But Fowler has the right to choose his team. KP played kinda brinkmenship and lost. His youtube video attest to it. He is making mess out of everything. He thought he can only play TEST and Play IPL. Knowing ECB they will block him playing IPL. So his popularity because of playing England not playing for IPL. Money is one thing , i still think he has to play TEST for england first. he can't switch to SA , first he will be old to be eligible again. So basically he has one choice , call ECB chief and say sorry and get into TEST team.

  • POSTED BY JustCrik on | August 13, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    Kevin...You are a superb player....few old,fat,average and attention seeking people can't understand what it takes to become a performer like you...!!! They need to understand that Roses comes with thorn....and you need to handle them with care to enjoy the beauty and joy it brings!!!

  • POSTED BY DeathKnell on | August 13, 2012, 19:43 GMT

    @m_rbhat thanks for the link.. looked into this earlier.. but I think the story runs much longer than 4 months......

  • POSTED BY Cpt.Meanster on | August 13, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    I think KP's days as an England cricketer are OVER. Sure, he may apologize and all that but it's too late for a comeback. I hope I am wrong because I love KP !! He's special and unique in his ability to thrash any bowling attack. In fact, he was the ONLY match winner in the England set up. Sure, England have many decent players but if anyone witnessed that hundred at Leeds last week, then you would know that ONLY KP could do that. He's like a Sehwag/Jayasuriya/Gayle for England. Only takes a short time for the man to change the game. While England would deny any harm done to them by dropping him, I am sure deep inside they would regret it. Now it's up to the shaky middle order of England to salvage some pride. But it will be difficult against this SA bowling attack.

  • POSTED BY Perfect.Stranger on | August 13, 2012, 19:36 GMT

    It seems England is at the receiving end this time. Normally their board and media creates such distractions in the camps of touring sides. Somehow they got entangled in their own mess this time. It feels good though. Go Africans

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 19:33 GMT

    Without KP, this series has lost it's charm.. I'm not that interested in the outcome now, because it's quite obvious, there is no one who can challenge SA in mediocre English team..

    I thought that kind of problems happen only in boards like West Indies and Pakistan, but it seems nobody has a patent over stupidity..

  • POSTED BY yorkshirematt on | August 13, 2012, 19:11 GMT

    No chance KP. His days of representing our country are over.

  • POSTED BY BillCook on | August 13, 2012, 19:08 GMT

    I'm astonished by the amount of positive posts for KP on this & other threads. Yes, the ECB has handled it badly - but nothing like as badly as KP (&, presumably his 'advisors' - unless, of course, he doesn't really listen to them either) It is desperately sad for cricket that someone as talented as Pietersen may be at the end of his international career. We need people like KP (& Gayle), who can empty bars, help fill grounds. But not at any cost. KP's brinkmanship & constant changing of position (not to mention plain daft actions) surely would have caused any administration to lose patience & snap. Huge money (and the resulting 'celebrity' status - like the Man Utd position with Beckham etc)) is the real problem here. Everyone loses here, KP, England & cricket lovers (Test or 20/20)

  • POSTED BY i_witnessed_2011 on | August 13, 2012, 19:02 GMT

    @cricky_lover :Hope this will help you : http://www.espncricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/577002.html

  • POSTED BY S-Matrix on | August 13, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    And this is not even the first time KP is causing a rift - remember the Moores stint? At that time, he was fired from captaincy and England went on to win the Ashes en route to the number one status. KP later stated that they won the Ashes because he quit (although the spontaneity of most of his statements is a reason for scepticism). Thus, KP need not be indulged despite his batting brilliance.

  • POSTED BY Kitschiguy on | August 13, 2012, 18:21 GMT

    I'm not to worried about losing KP. As England were ascending the test rankings he was getting out to left arm spinners.

    I like the bloke but for reasons neatly outlined by Landl47 I'll be quite glad to see the back of him, as I was Flintoff who was another walking ego who disrupted the dressing room.

  • POSTED BY mailvips on | August 13, 2012, 18:18 GMT

    I am sure both KP and ECB are to blame but ultimately its ECB's failure. I thought ECB was one of the most professional cricketing organization! They are sure trying to make BCCI look way better!! As Shane Warne commented, its the ECB and England team management's task to make all players feel important and keep on contributing. The sad part is that we will not see KP in whites again and thats a big loss to test cricket - somebody sue ECB for that.

  • POSTED BY Lmaotsetung on | August 13, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    Not much is known about the text messages but one can infer that the article by a certain SA writer on KP the other day is what sparked the controversy.

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    kp... leave england and try to play for south africa or just get contract from ipl bb and other premier leage for 3 to 5 years...dont play for england again... as always ecb put in shamefull situation. and i can understand as u r from south africa.. u r not getting enough respect or credit like other players english born.. and we all knw tht england will suffer without u....

  • POSTED BY Lmaotsetung on | August 13, 2012, 18:05 GMT

    Congrats Ms Moonda on assisting in the termination of KP's international career. Lovely article the other day!

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    KP is the only player in the England team who has the flair and charisma and that is reflected by the no. of fans... If he's not there in the team, i dnt think a lot of people are gonna follow their cricket in world t20 or any other series, even if they remain no.1 in all the three formats. Infact if he wasnt there in last match, England would have lost their no.1 ranking by now.Since his debut, english cricket has achieved milestones that were not possible few years ago. Lets see what they can do without him...

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | August 13, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    Whether or not you agree with the ECB. having made their decision one assumes, unless there is some movement from Pietersen, the door will remain firmly closed. No matter what anyone else thinks or how unfair some of you perceive the ECB's stance to be, they hold all the trump cards. It's a case of he who pays the piper calles the tune. Having announced his retirement before the T20 squad was selected, he obviously was not included in the 30 strong initial selection which has to be whittled down to the final squad by the 18th. Now Pietersen has had yet another change of heart and declared his availabilty, should the selectors include him, then someone from that intial 30 is going to miss out.. How good is that for engendering team spirit.. The diva says No.. then says Yes and the selectors are expected to jump.. I don't think so... or should I say, I hope they don't. The big hurdle comes when the new contracts are offered in September and that depends on what happens meantime.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 13, 2012, 17:50 GMT

    chris hieron thats right when the 30 were preselected KP was not considered because he said he would not play odis t20. but hes changed his mind so often im not sure. i believe he can only be selected when the 15 are named and one of that 15 gets injured and then i think its like for like. we will wait and see over the weekend when that kicks off.

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 17:45 GMT

    Pietersen should kiss the english good bye and go back to SA. He'll earn less maybe (or not as its more likely that he'll play the entire IPL season). Its better to rein in hell than to serve in heaven.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 13, 2012, 17:44 GMT

    bobmartin that would have been the sensible thing to me. but KP and sense dont go to gether. as for the bit about moving to another country that was meant to be a joke it take it.

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 13, 2012, 17:39 GMT

    mayur_vadukul it was the saffers who spoke about it 1st. then the ecb picked up on it. it was such a daft thing for him to do, so i can understand them letting the cat out of the bag, what else could they do, but drop him if he had apologized he might just have got away with it, by playing dumb he had no chance . ahmed hussain do you not understand them bringing in a replacement after the text fiasco as for pace the 2 windies bowlers can both click 90+ so the bowling will not get any quicker.

  • POSTED BY perl57 on | August 13, 2012, 17:38 GMT

    A perfect setting would be KP is accepted by SA and he plays in T20 to win it for them. Destroying England in the first round. More or less, England will be chewed out by lower level teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe. Would like to see how Andy Moron flower feels to be defeated by your own country. I guess Andy Flower is given too much importance and ECB for sure does not know how to take care of its spoilt brats. Spoilt Brats needs discipline and they crave it. Does ECB think Rocky Ponting was any good? He was worst of the lot who had boozing problem. He was given captaincy and was also blessed with Oz media, ACB, backing of ICC, umpires and with Warne and McGrath. He became a great captain. I guess it is time, ECB kick Andew Strauss, Andy Flower and make some passionate, dynamic person a captain. Problem is none of their playing 11 are so dynamic considering KP is outside it.

  • POSTED BY R_U_4_REAL_NICK on | August 13, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    If he (KP) has nothing to hide, just come out and tell them about the texts. "Banter amongst teammates"... Freudian slip as ChobeMonster says below? I mean what's so horrible that he has to hide? "Yer Steyn bowl nah!" "How's the knee Smith?" "Pietersen without the 'i' just aint the same thing!" "If a Swann ate some Onions, would that make it's Bell(y) ache as much as watching my team-mates batting?" It's like being back on the primary school playground sometimes with this lot.

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | August 13, 2012, 17:34 GMT

    If ECB has proof of these text messages then reveal it too all concerns or else get KP in the team and apologize publicly for their conduct...

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | August 13, 2012, 17:30 GMT

    i suppose it all depends if he can keep his daft mouth shut till then. but as his past dictates when he should keep it shut it opens and when, well you get the gist. would i take him yes i suppose i would. but will wait and see.

  • POSTED BY phoenixsteve on | August 13, 2012, 17:25 GMT

    Whilst I agree with Landl47 I do think that the ECB need to take some of the blame. Surely private conversations between team mates and friends are just that? The ECB is wanting to control what players say in private? It wil be so sad to see KP end his international career would suggest that if the showing at Lords is unaccepatble then maybe Flower, Strauss and Hugh Morris should step aside. Somebody who can actually 'manage' precious talent is needed and I suspect that Flower has reached his limitations - much as Duncan Fletcher before him. Stevie Wonder would probably do a better job if he didn't listen to the gossip! This collection of highly paid sports professionals are beginning to look like a bunch of paranoid teenagers worried about what is being said in private! Sledging is allowed on the field of play in a very public arena; but utter something inappropriate (we still don't know what or if) IN PRIVATE and look what happens......

  • POSTED BY mrklinkerpants on | August 13, 2012, 17:22 GMT

    All those who support KP seem to make the mistake of likening someone who is 'exciting to watch' with someone who is a 'great player'. On his day, he can dismantle any bowling attack in the world and provide great entertainment for the paying public. Unfortunately, he can just as easily play a shot that wouldn't look out of place on the village green, dumping his teammates into trouble, just as he did a couple of deliveries before the new-ball was due in the first innings of the first test, a dismissal that had a huge impact on the subsequent course of the game. England have made the advances that they have in the last few years on the back of hard-work and a good team ethic. You can't have the latter with an ego like KP on-board. The ECB showed some guts to take a tough but correct decision - now perhaps English fans can look forward to an end of the KP Soap Opera of a summer and see 11 players all pulling in the same direction to battle for victory at Lords.

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 16:54 GMT

    KP is a brilliant batsman who in the recent past has played two test innings (2nd test v Sri Lanka, Colombo & 2nd test v South Africa) that were of the highest class. The only batsman in living memory who could have played innings such as those is the incomparable Vivian Richards. The fundamental difference between the two are that KP is primarily interested in himself whereas King Viv had the interests of his team at heart. KP = great batsman & poor role model for the human race Vivian Richards = great batsman & great ambassador for the human condition.

    By not confirming that he did not send derogatory texts, Kevin Pietersen has by default confirmed that he did! Disliking a team mate is one thing - however egging on an opponent to dismiss a teamate is unforgivable. In order to be in a position to make a return, KP has to eat "humble pie" and apologise to his team mates. He also has to recognise that he does not have an absolute right to play for England (however good he is).

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 16:49 GMT

    KP should go play for Surrey, make another 100 and watch the his replacement get peppered by Steyn and Morkel. I really hope he plays in the World T20 but it is looking unlikely.

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | August 13, 2012, 16:28 GMT

    Pietersen proves every time he opens his mouth that, although he's a great natural cricketer, intelligence is not one of his strengths. His advisors need to tell him to shut up, lose his Smartphone and at least pretend to be a team player. Having his mouth running while his brain's not in gear is at the heart of all his problems.

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | August 13, 2012, 16:03 GMT

    "Plenty of issues created by KP for Flower?"...truth is flower created too many issues for KP, all rules are only meant for KP, I really wish as a spectator for KP to get selected for T20 world cup but if flower created another hurdle for KP it would be his (Flower) last tournament as well

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 15:58 GMT

    Its seems as though people like Piers Morgan, via twitter, have been boosting KP's ego to stand fast and firm in the build up to what happened on Sunday. KP, has followed the wrong advice, totally!. His 11th hour youtube video shows regret at being stubborn and trying to fight a system in which there can only be one looser-in fact two;KP and the fans- and he comes across as a desperate individual seeking desperately to skirt his way through a mess he has previously used extreme brinkmanship to try and win the day. He is now being punished, for how long, may depend on him, he should play for Surrey in the next few days, and forget about glorified twitter and media, keep a low profile, show humility and hope that this time he will be welcomed back as a new committed TEAM MAN, dont read your ill advising mates tweets on twitter, listen to your heart and pursue greatness as a test cricketer. The ECB have shown him where it hurts most, now they hold his future in their hands, literally

  • POSTED BY santhoo24 on | August 13, 2012, 15:54 GMT

    It's turning out to be an ugly affair, a la WICB/CG affaira, as so many have noted before. Only time will tell how the saga ended, and how the current ECB admin and KP will be remembered. Few years down the lane, we would see about this on cricinfo (hopefully).

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 15:53 GMT

    KP is a spoil brat! The English media is to be blamed for his attitude because he is well over-rated...

  • POSTED BY pvwadekar on | August 13, 2012, 15:43 GMT

    There is always something or the other happening in summer in UK. Sometimes there are major issues such as it ball tampering and forfeiting of matches (Inzaman), spot fixing(Salman Butt and Co), KP's theatrics and its repercussions.

    Sometimes minor issues such as Hot spot and shoe laces, vaseline, donkey comment, sweets on the pitch etc during india's tour. English summer cricket is always exciting not for the quality of cricket but for other such factors.

    Reminds me of a Tamasha or Nautanki .. Wonder what we will expect next year for Ashes 2013 ??

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | August 13, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    A lot of people on here called it sadly I think we've seen the end of KP for England it's all gone way to far not much chance ECB will have him in T20 world cup if any.

  • POSTED BY ChobeMonster on | August 13, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    The text messages were "Banter among team mates", says the SA team manager. Was that a freudian slip? Does it mean that KP is a team mate of the SA squad? I think we should be told.

    KP needs to grow up (how many times has that been w ritten about him?). If we lose the test series, so be it. The ECB and England team management need to show that one man - no matter how talented - is not above the game. I hope they stick to their guns.

  • POSTED BY DeathKnell on | August 13, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    can someone explain (in a nutshell) the chronological events & the content of the SMS etc. because all I could get are hints, allegations etc etc.. but it seems that Pietersen is unduly cornered..it is an individual's choice to chose his work and at the same time it is the employers choice to chose his employee.. why make big fuss expecting apology, waiting for response etc.. should be within four walls.....sad to see that this is getting out of hands....

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    I was under the impression KP hadn't been selected in the original World Cup T20 squad, so if that was the case, why will there be a dillema? He can't be dropped from a squad he wasn't in?

  • POSTED BY MKV_Assessment on | August 13, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    ECB runs the ship and KP is scapegoat for the moment... as no action so far to find out who leaked the information within the members of the ECB?? that person is the problem at the first place otherwise all could have been the matter within the closed doors.... Did ECB take any actions??? the person who suffered is KP... he was wrong but the person who began the circus is still relaxed and ECB made KP the Villon....

  • POSTED BY klempie on | August 13, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    Google "Moosajee: KP texts just 'banter'". I'm loving every minute of this. :)

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | August 13, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    The only way out of this impasse it seems to me.. is for Pietersen to meet the powers that be face to face... no agents.. no representatives.. just him and the men who make the decisions.. the same ones who will recommend whether or not he gets a new contract. And that had better happen pretty damn fast... because time is running out not only for a new contract but also for him to get selected for the T20 squad. Without such a meeting we may well have seem the last of KP representing England or indeed, given the time qualifications, any other country.

  • POSTED BY MKV_Assessment on | August 13, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    So many articles about KP's dumping and what is right and and wrong for KP.... can ECB dump the people who have leaked the information for the starters? Thats the roots of the problem at the first place.. that came out first and everything followed. otherwise all could have been the matter between the closed doors! but ECB runs the ship so KP became scapegoat!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    South Africa must be very happy on their team chances now but seriously England, selecting Bairstow for this important match, a guy who greatly struggled against West Indies common.

  • POSTED BY Hammond on | August 13, 2012, 15:05 GMT

    Drop the saffer and get on with developing English cricket. In a few years he can qualify to play somewhere else. Australia needs batsmen..

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  • POSTED BY Hammond on | August 13, 2012, 15:05 GMT

    Drop the saffer and get on with developing English cricket. In a few years he can qualify to play somewhere else. Australia needs batsmen..

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 15:06 GMT

    South Africa must be very happy on their team chances now but seriously England, selecting Bairstow for this important match, a guy who greatly struggled against West Indies common.

  • POSTED BY MKV_Assessment on | August 13, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    So many articles about KP's dumping and what is right and and wrong for KP.... can ECB dump the people who have leaked the information for the starters? Thats the roots of the problem at the first place.. that came out first and everything followed. otherwise all could have been the matter between the closed doors! but ECB runs the ship so KP became scapegoat!!!!!

  • POSTED BY bobmartin on | August 13, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    The only way out of this impasse it seems to me.. is for Pietersen to meet the powers that be face to face... no agents.. no representatives.. just him and the men who make the decisions.. the same ones who will recommend whether or not he gets a new contract. And that had better happen pretty damn fast... because time is running out not only for a new contract but also for him to get selected for the T20 squad. Without such a meeting we may well have seem the last of KP representing England or indeed, given the time qualifications, any other country.

  • POSTED BY klempie on | August 13, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    Google "Moosajee: KP texts just 'banter'". I'm loving every minute of this. :)

  • POSTED BY MKV_Assessment on | August 13, 2012, 15:18 GMT

    ECB runs the ship and KP is scapegoat for the moment... as no action so far to find out who leaked the information within the members of the ECB?? that person is the problem at the first place otherwise all could have been the matter within the closed doors.... Did ECB take any actions??? the person who suffered is KP... he was wrong but the person who began the circus is still relaxed and ECB made KP the Villon....

  • POSTED BY on | August 13, 2012, 15:30 GMT

    I was under the impression KP hadn't been selected in the original World Cup T20 squad, so if that was the case, why will there be a dillema? He can't be dropped from a squad he wasn't in?

  • POSTED BY DeathKnell on | August 13, 2012, 15:33 GMT

    can someone explain (in a nutshell) the chronological events & the content of the SMS etc. because all I could get are hints, allegations etc etc.. but it seems that Pietersen is unduly cornered..it is an individual's choice to chose his work and at the same time it is the employers choice to chose his employee.. why make big fuss expecting apology, waiting for response etc.. should be within four walls.....sad to see that this is getting out of hands....

  • POSTED BY ChobeMonster on | August 13, 2012, 15:35 GMT

    The text messages were "Banter among team mates", says the SA team manager. Was that a freudian slip? Does it mean that KP is a team mate of the SA squad? I think we should be told.

    KP needs to grow up (how many times has that been w ritten about him?). If we lose the test series, so be it. The ECB and England team management need to show that one man - no matter how talented - is not above the game. I hope they stick to their guns.

  • POSTED BY BRUTALANALYST on | August 13, 2012, 15:39 GMT

    A lot of people on here called it sadly I think we've seen the end of KP for England it's all gone way to far not much chance ECB will have him in T20 world cup if any.