England news June 4, 2014

England Test squad chance to reinvent

The announcement of who will be preparing for the Lord's Test should be the most fascinating in a long time with plenty of spaces to fill
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At the height of England's success under Andy Flower the announcement of Test squads became a pretty mundane affair. Except for the occasional retirement or injury there was rarely much conjecture over the names that would be revealed.

The situation now is much different. The squad that James Whitaker will name on Wednesday morning - the first time Whitaker has named a Test party since taking over from Geoff Miller as national selector - has just four certainties that would be included by anyone asked for a squad: Alastair Cook, Ian Bell, Stuart Broad and James Anderson.

Those four are the senior core of the England team now. The names that will go alongside them have been much-debated during the opening weeks of an intriguing domestic season. Arguably, not since Duncan Fletcher took over with England rock bottom of the Test rankings in 1999 has there been such room for reinvention.

So far, when it has come to the limited-overs formats, the selectors have hardly ripped up the script: the only new cap this season has been left-armer Harry Gurney. But the Test side could feature four new faces - not since 1993, against Australia at Trent Bridge, have England handed out four debuts in the same Tests - and is very likely to have three.

It is probably worth a reminder of the last Test XI which took the field, on January 3 in Sydney, which also included three debutants: Cook, Carberry, Bell, Pietersen, Ballance, Stokes, Bairstow, Broad, Borthwick, Anderson, Rankin.

Two are ruled out straightaway, for different reasons: Kevin Pietersen's ejection and Boyd Rankin's physical and mental problems which began during the Ashes, although it is heartening to see him back for Warwickshire. Scott Borthwick, too, is unlikely to be considered despite his recent double hundred.

Being the man in possession of the keeping gloves, Jonny Bairstow can feel rightly aggrieved if Matt Prior is unfit and he still loses his spot. There is a feeling that a calculated gamble will be taken on Prior if he does not report any reaction in his Achilles problem following his Championship outing against Nottinghamshire where he kept for 172 overs. It would be a significant risk, but it has been made clear how desperate the management are to have Prior back.

If his problems persist, or recur, then his alternative will give an insight into whether England are feeling pragmatic or brave. There has been growing support for James Foster, 34 years old, to fill the role. One of the outstanding glovemen in the county game he would not let anyone down - and is a better batsman than often given credit for - but to include Jos Buttler (notwithstanding his dozy Mankading) would show an embracing of youth, adventure and dynamism. It would also energise the public, so long as they accept the occasional fumble with the gloves as he has only kept in 21 of his 51 first-class matches.

Still with plenty of places to fill, Chris Jordan will be included and there should be space for one more fast bowler. Liam Plunkett, consistently quick and aggressive for Yorkshire this season, is in with a very good chance. Steven Finn is not yet ready for a return.

Spin bowling? This is tricky. Worthy specialists are in short supply, especially as Monty Panesar appears to have waylaid his watch. Moeen Ali has been tipped from before the season began and although he only has six wickets in the Championship the indications, particularly leaving him out of the one-day side to play red-ball cricket, are that he will take on the tweaking role in an all-round capacity. But for the record, the leading England-qualified spinner this season is Kent's Adam Riley (26 wickets) followed by Dean Cosker and Panesar (23 apiece).

One of the shining lights in England's previous Test side was Ben Stokes, who claimed a five-wicket haul in Sydney to go alongside his Perth century. Since then he has had a few problems, notably with a locker, and may pay the price for his delayed start to the season but he is clearly made for Test cricket. His inclusion, alongside Moeen, would also open the possibility of a keeper batting at No. 8.

The batting around Cook and Bell is likely to include the Yorkshire pair of Joe Root (who was dropped for Sydney) and Gary Ballance, who began the Championship season in prolific style, although was tentative outside off stump in the one-day series. Eoin Morgan could squeeze past Ballance if the selectors move aside from pure statistics. If the conditions and opposition are considered when Championship runs are scored, Samit Patel should also be very close to a recall. Hampshire's James Vince has kicked on this season, too.

Finally, having gone in reverse order, there is an opening partner for Cook to find. Michael Carberry's recall for the limited-overs squads showed he had not been discarded, Adam Lyth has hit rich form, but averaged 31 last season, and Daryl Mitchell is second to Lyth in run-scoring with an average of 108.85 albeit in Division Two. But Sam Robson has felt like the anointed one to try and form a long-term opening combination for the first time since Andrew Strauss retired.

But whoever is included, it really should be an announcement worth listening to.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Ragav999 on June 5, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    What a turnover of personnel caused by Mitchell Johnson! To think that the English fans were hoping for his selection at the beginning of the Ashes in Australia. The resurgence of Mitchell Johnson is one for the history books.

  • on June 5, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    What did Root do in Austrlia to find a place in the Team. He is ill groomed to play at any number. He should improve his batting abilities. Why ECB you play safe. I have seen from DeXter's time' we see mediocre players in England side excepting Ian Botham Robin Smith Marcus Trescothick etc. How long will you go on with Anderson Bell etc till they drop down. Find new players and bring back the glory days. I am always a staunch supporter of England.....

  • on June 5, 2014, 14:33 GMT

    ECB.Why cant you try some new players. Why Compton is left out. He is a much better player. He plays very patiently and he should hv been an auto choice for Aus. but you people goofed up. You pick some WK who can do batting. Johny Bairstow is not all upto the mark as a Batsman. Why KP cant be brought into the side. Look for some young fast bowlers/spinners and groom them. Also induct some new batsmen does not matter if you lose to Sri Lanka and others. Your focus should be to beat Aus after the thrashing in all 5 tests. Dont you want to redeem yourselves. Please publish this and not knock off from the comments column. Tks.

  • on June 5, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    England seem to have made some bold and necessary culling in Bairstow, Borthwick, Panesar and less convincingly the luckless Carberry. Pleased for Ali and hope he can marry application to undoubted flair. Agree with previous comments re Bairstows' innings against SA but one swallow doesn't make a summer.

    I guess Woakes will disappear again fairly quickly assuming Stokes stops punching things. Taylor seems out of all contention for now but I back him to quietly go about his business and feel he still has a future for England especially given the enormous pressure there will be on Root and Robson

    Butler should breathe a sigh of relief as should the England bowlers.

    Anyway what do I know. I just hope all those picked do justice to their skills and England can rebuild and play attractive, winning cricket.

    NB

    Has anyone noticed that we don't have a spinner? Small oversight I know but perhaps someone should let the selectors know?

  • yorkshire-86 on June 5, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    Nice to see them go back to proven failures like Ali, Woakes, Plunkett...

  • on June 5, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    A few more foreign players would not make any difference to the England set up would it?. We do not have home grown players to play for England. What is wrong with the ECB management. What is wrong with Compton, Hales and so many other excellent players who should be given a chance to represent their motherland.

  • CodandChips on June 5, 2014, 8:33 GMT

    No mention in the article on many mentions in these comments for Taylor or Kerrigan. A shame but I know neither will get picked.

    Also nobody has picked Carberry. I wouldn't but it wouldn't surprise me if he plays. Please don't pick any Hampshire players. Carberry is out of his depth. Vince isn't ready yet. Moreover both of them would be of much greater importance to Hampshire than they would be to England. If you're gonna pick any Hampshire players pick WHeater and Gatting, as they can't seem to get dropped.

    Hants T20 team: 1.Vince 2.Carberry 3.Adams 4.Shah 5.Maxwell 6.Smith 7.Coles 8.Wood 9.Bates 10.Abbott 11.Briggs

    @JG2704 who'd you pick for tests?

  • RednWhiteArmy on June 5, 2014, 8:28 GMT

    Side should be 1 Cook (c) 2 Compton/Robson 3 Bell 4 Ballance 5 Morgan 6 Moeen Ali 7 Stokes 8 Buttler (wk) 9 Broad 10 Anderson 11 4th seamer/2nd spinner

  • Patchmaster on June 5, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    Only the ENG management would be 'desperate' to have Prior back. Sure. he's been a class player, in the past, but lets face it, his body language and his actual scores in the last five test series and all the warm games and all the one dayers in AUS, do not warrant picking him - so why oh why are they desperate to have him back ? He's nearing the end of his career, so NOW is the chance to blood someone new in and give them a really good run. C'mon ENG management - show some guts and decent decision making - for once !

  • Patchmaster on June 5, 2014, 7:50 GMT

    Robson and Hales would be a better opening partnership........

  • Ragav999 on June 5, 2014, 15:06 GMT

    What a turnover of personnel caused by Mitchell Johnson! To think that the English fans were hoping for his selection at the beginning of the Ashes in Australia. The resurgence of Mitchell Johnson is one for the history books.

  • on June 5, 2014, 14:53 GMT

    What did Root do in Austrlia to find a place in the Team. He is ill groomed to play at any number. He should improve his batting abilities. Why ECB you play safe. I have seen from DeXter's time' we see mediocre players in England side excepting Ian Botham Robin Smith Marcus Trescothick etc. How long will you go on with Anderson Bell etc till they drop down. Find new players and bring back the glory days. I am always a staunch supporter of England.....

  • on June 5, 2014, 14:33 GMT

    ECB.Why cant you try some new players. Why Compton is left out. He is a much better player. He plays very patiently and he should hv been an auto choice for Aus. but you people goofed up. You pick some WK who can do batting. Johny Bairstow is not all upto the mark as a Batsman. Why KP cant be brought into the side. Look for some young fast bowlers/spinners and groom them. Also induct some new batsmen does not matter if you lose to Sri Lanka and others. Your focus should be to beat Aus after the thrashing in all 5 tests. Dont you want to redeem yourselves. Please publish this and not knock off from the comments column. Tks.

  • on June 5, 2014, 11:44 GMT

    England seem to have made some bold and necessary culling in Bairstow, Borthwick, Panesar and less convincingly the luckless Carberry. Pleased for Ali and hope he can marry application to undoubted flair. Agree with previous comments re Bairstows' innings against SA but one swallow doesn't make a summer.

    I guess Woakes will disappear again fairly quickly assuming Stokes stops punching things. Taylor seems out of all contention for now but I back him to quietly go about his business and feel he still has a future for England especially given the enormous pressure there will be on Root and Robson

    Butler should breathe a sigh of relief as should the England bowlers.

    Anyway what do I know. I just hope all those picked do justice to their skills and England can rebuild and play attractive, winning cricket.

    NB

    Has anyone noticed that we don't have a spinner? Small oversight I know but perhaps someone should let the selectors know?

  • yorkshire-86 on June 5, 2014, 9:14 GMT

    Nice to see them go back to proven failures like Ali, Woakes, Plunkett...

  • on June 5, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    A few more foreign players would not make any difference to the England set up would it?. We do not have home grown players to play for England. What is wrong with the ECB management. What is wrong with Compton, Hales and so many other excellent players who should be given a chance to represent their motherland.

  • CodandChips on June 5, 2014, 8:33 GMT

    No mention in the article on many mentions in these comments for Taylor or Kerrigan. A shame but I know neither will get picked.

    Also nobody has picked Carberry. I wouldn't but it wouldn't surprise me if he plays. Please don't pick any Hampshire players. Carberry is out of his depth. Vince isn't ready yet. Moreover both of them would be of much greater importance to Hampshire than they would be to England. If you're gonna pick any Hampshire players pick WHeater and Gatting, as they can't seem to get dropped.

    Hants T20 team: 1.Vince 2.Carberry 3.Adams 4.Shah 5.Maxwell 6.Smith 7.Coles 8.Wood 9.Bates 10.Abbott 11.Briggs

    @JG2704 who'd you pick for tests?

  • RednWhiteArmy on June 5, 2014, 8:28 GMT

    Side should be 1 Cook (c) 2 Compton/Robson 3 Bell 4 Ballance 5 Morgan 6 Moeen Ali 7 Stokes 8 Buttler (wk) 9 Broad 10 Anderson 11 4th seamer/2nd spinner

  • Patchmaster on June 5, 2014, 7:54 GMT

    Only the ENG management would be 'desperate' to have Prior back. Sure. he's been a class player, in the past, but lets face it, his body language and his actual scores in the last five test series and all the warm games and all the one dayers in AUS, do not warrant picking him - so why oh why are they desperate to have him back ? He's nearing the end of his career, so NOW is the chance to blood someone new in and give them a really good run. C'mon ENG management - show some guts and decent decision making - for once !

  • Patchmaster on June 5, 2014, 7:50 GMT

    Robson and Hales would be a better opening partnership........

  • on June 5, 2014, 7:40 GMT

    England should play compton as he is in very good form in first class cricket and should also play sam robson. They should field a main spinner rather than part timer. Chris woakes could be a better choice as he avg 39 with bat and 25 with ball. They should recall onions and jordan should be limited to ODI's. Moeen ali has a mediocore avg of 37 in First class cricket. He is not a very good no3 replacement for trott. This should be their squad 1.Cook 2.Sam robson 3.Compton 4.Ballance 5.Ian bell 6.Ben stokes 7.Craig kieswetter 8.Chris woakes 9.Stuat broad 10.Anderson 11.Simon kieregan and remaining 4 Are 12.Joe root 13.James taylor 14.Graham onions 15.Steven finn/Liam plunkett

  • brahms on June 5, 2014, 7:28 GMT

    James Colhoun says that Bairstow is psychologically unprepared for test cricket while Taylor held off the best pace attack in the world (South Africa's). Has he forgotten that when Bairstow was called up to replace the suspended KP he took that South African pace attack apart with two superb innings. His reward was to be dropped ! Give the guy a fair chance and stop messing him about.

  • on June 5, 2014, 7:20 GMT

    My team Cook, Compton , Root, Morgan , woakes , bell, prior, broad, tredwell , Anderson , Finn ..,

  • statmatt on June 5, 2014, 5:44 GMT

    My team is: Cook, Compton, Root, Bell, Ballance, Moeen Ali, Foster, Broad, W Gidman, Jordan, Anderson Gidman just gets in ahead of Stokes for me, as he in form and is a more reliable option to go with the pace of Jordan. Compton is just preferred to Robson as he deserves another chance with this fresh start. Foster also deserves another chance, and seems to be the best option currently, giving Buttler a chance to continue his development with Lancashire. This team also bats down to number 10.

  • on June 5, 2014, 5:43 GMT

    Jos Butler is intermittently explosive in the short form of the game and consistently below test standard with the gloves. I feel he would (for now) be quickly exposed at test level and should be kept in quarantine for a while longer. Test cricket requires mental resilience and technique. Weight of runs in county cricket count for nothing ( Hick Ramprakash) per se. When picked for England Vaughan was not illuminating the shires with weight of runs but he had something else. Bairstow seems psychologically unprepared for Test cricket, presumably still reeling from post tea tray stress disorder. Compton has the proven pedigree but represents a low risk investment in a market that requires boldness, likewise Carberry. Stokes is high risk and would seem to need very careful managing. If management and Cook have the steel then what a future he has. I would like to see Taylor return. He held off the best pace attack in the world two years ago against South Africa and so it would seem KPand scored a ton ( albeit scratchy), under significant pressure when guesting for Sussex against the Aussies last year. He has weight of runs behind him in all forms of the game, in multiple countries, and just keeps bouncing back. His start to the season has been less eye grabbing than others but steady nevertheless. Wicketkeeper Batsmen. Prior for now. Watch Ben Duckett of Northants for 2016 to fill the role permanently by which time any decision to anoint Butler might have looked too hasty. Ballance looks solid but no more than that, whereas Ali has a whiff of class, probably still best wafted in the short form. Lyth mentioned a lot. What about Lees? Jordan should be inked in now. Patel has been eye catching in county cricket but as a bowler lacks the class and as a Batsman is clearly no better a choice than any of the other names being mooted a la Robson, Lyth, Taylor et al.

  • CodandChips on June 5, 2014, 5:39 GMT

    Hence depending on conditions either: 1.Cook 2.Lyth 3.Bell 4.Root 5.Taylor (Ballance) 6.Borthwick (Ali) 7.Davies (Foster) 8.Broad 9.Jordan 10.Roland-Jones 11.Anderson

    Or: 1.Cook 2.Lyth 3.Bell 4.Root 5.Taylor (Ballance) 6.Stokes 7.Davies (Foster) 8.Broad 9.Roland-Jones 10.Anderson 11.Kerrigan Hence I'd pick a squad of the following players (not including any in brackets. They are just alternatives I wouldn't mind). That makes a squad of 13.

    I doubt England will go this way. But it's my way.

    Perhaps England will go: 1.Cook 2.Robson 3.Ballance 4.Bell 5.Root 6.Ali 7.Prior 8.Bresnan 9.Broad 10.Jordan 11.Anderson plus Stokes and Patel in the squad

    I know Bresnan isn't mentioned in the article but England keep picking him for some strange reason. And he was released from the ODI squad to play championship cricket for Yorkshire, rather than releasing the young and talented Chris Woakes. I hope they don't go Bresnan.

  • CodandChips on June 5, 2014, 5:33 GMT

    The spinner is interesting. I like Kerrigan, the leading English spinner in division 1. If he plays, pick a seam-bowling allrounder. Woakes' lack of cricket recently has made me switch to Stokes. I doubt England will go this route. I assume they'll pick a batsman who bowls spin. If they do I hope they don't select Stokes as well but 4 front-line seamers. Patel may top the batting this season but his bowling looks innocuous and he failed to convince me during his international career. I like Borthwick as although he bowls some dross he takes wickets. And he bats in the top order at Durham, which is no mean feat. I wouldn't be opposed to Ali though.

    Anderson and Broad gurenteed. Onions would surely be close if fit. Shazad, Plunkett, Wood, Barker must all be contenders. I'd hope not Bresnan. I'd go with Roland-Jones, who has had an excellent start to the season, and averages less than the 5 bowlers with more wickets than him this season. I also like Jordan.

    (continued)

  • CodandChips on June 5, 2014, 5:31 GMT

    Am looking forward to the tests. The debate for the squad has been going on a while.

    I would open with Cook and Lyth. Lyth deserves to be selected. Time county performances were recognised. Bell should take responsibility and bat 3. Root at 4. Then at 5 the choice between Taylor or Ballance. Ballance has had the better season, but with my bias Taylor gets selected, as I feel he deserves to be rewarded for consistent performances in county cricket, whereas Ballance hasn't completely convinced me yet.

    For the keeper my first choice choice would be Davies. However his giving up of the gloves persuades me to go with Foster. Let Buttler work on both his white-ball and red-ball games with Lancashire. I doubt England go this way. I assume Robson and Ballance will be in their top 5. Prior will play unless extremely injured I reckon. Don't know who England will pick if he's not ready.

    (continued)

  • xtrafalgarx on June 5, 2014, 4:56 GMT

    People have to remember Stokes has hardly played even a handful of tests. There will be a few ups and downs yet, but it he gets it right - he could be a real gun.

  • on June 5, 2014, 4:46 GMT

    continued...sorry Jordan in place of Finn

  • on June 5, 2014, 4:45 GMT

    my XI will be : Hales,Cook.Bell,Root,Patel,Stokes,Foster,Broad,Plunket,Anderson,Finn

  • on June 5, 2014, 4:01 GMT

    Alex hales should be a handed 'a go'. I agree he is very destructive but that cannot cut his chances of playing test cricket.We can have the example of Virender Sehwag,who is more successful in test than in t20s due to his aggression.Players like hales can take the game away from you in a session.GO HALES GO...!

  • venkatesh018 on June 5, 2014, 3:54 GMT

    My England XI in batting order will be: Cook, Robson, Bell, Moeen Ali, Root, Stokes, Butler, Tredwell, Broad, Anderson, Onions(if he is fit). The other two in the squad will be Plunkett and Gary Ballance.

  • on June 5, 2014, 3:24 GMT

    NICK COMPTON! Are the selectors determined not to hand him another go??

  • nick.madhav12 on June 5, 2014, 3:10 GMT

    My XI iz Robson,Cook,Root,Bell,Ballance,Tayler,Buttler,Borthwick,Broad,Finn,Anderson.

  • D-Ascendant on June 5, 2014, 2:21 GMT

    Bring back Nick Compton PLEASE.

  • on June 5, 2014, 2:06 GMT

    England will surely miss KP .....I hope to see a great batsmen back on ground and save england one more time...

  • on June 5, 2014, 1:41 GMT

    My squad will be : Cook , Lyth , Moeen , Bell, Root , Patel, Stokes, Bairstow , Broad , Anderson, Plunkett

  • on June 5, 2014, 1:35 GMT

    Come on England, be brave and pick players on form. Cook, Lyth, Bell, Vince, Taylor, Stokes, Patel/Ali, Buttler/Foster, Broad, Anderson, Jordan.

  • on June 5, 2014, 1:19 GMT

    If Ali, Stokes and Jordan fill the no. 6 7 and 8 slot, then u can go with a specialist wicket keeper at no.9 or 10 (if u still think the current Broad can bat)

  • on June 5, 2014, 0:39 GMT

    WaltonGentlman....well said...also with all the keeping carfuffle,it may be wise to see if Jack Russell is around!!!!never know,this hierachy is open to allsorts!!!!p.s is Bob Taylor still knocking about......

  • blackcapsfan3 on June 4, 2014, 23:06 GMT

    Borthwick should be in this squad, he just score 235 or so in his game, he could be the answer for the number 3 batting postion. plus he is a handy bowler.

  • on June 4, 2014, 22:36 GMT

    What about James Vince he has scored 701 runs at an average of around 77 and he also scores very quickly a strike rate of 79 he would add an aggressive batsmen to help England to have more time to bowl out Sri Lanka twice

  • darrenh on June 4, 2014, 22:25 GMT

    1. Cook, 2.Root, 3.Ali,4.Bell, 5.Ballance, 6.Patel, 7. Prior,8 Stokes 9.Plunkett/Bresnan, 10.Broad, 11 Anderson - if Prior is unfit, Bairstow or Foster. If the wicket is expected to take spin then Keedy for Patel. Butler and Jordan need 1 more county season to hone their skills. I am not sure how good Plunkett and Stokes are at getting the ball to reverse so I have included Bresnan.

  • yorkshire-86 on June 4, 2014, 22:13 GMT

    Cook Robson Ballance Root Bell Stokes Prior Broad Jordan Anderson Panesar. To win a test match you MUST pick your best spinner, and Ali is nowhere near that. He also looked out of his depth as a batsmen at the top level. Bairstow is unlucky but if Prior has a couple of failures he should be ditched and Bairstow brought back. Ballance at three in the ODI's could be an indication of what they are trying for the Tests - Root should be given the chance to hold one position down, and they seem to have settled at four, while Bell has been totally and utterly dire at any position above five and so must bat no higher. If England really want to throw the match away by using a 'batsman who can bowl a bit' as thier main spinner, then Cook Robson Ballance Root Bell Stokes Prior Broad Borthwick/Patel/Ali Jordan Anderson.

  • on June 4, 2014, 22:05 GMT

    My line up would be. 1.Cook 2.Robson 3.Root 4.Bell 5.Ballance 6.Ali 7. Stokes 8.Foster/Prior 9. Jordan 10.Broad 11.Anderson . worry in recent years has been their fragility in the batting and i believe this line up offers the best batting line up. I would put Bell at 4 as at 3 there will be a distinct inexperience in the middle order. Robson would open and Root at three. I believe Root needs clarity in his batting and at 3 England can get the most from him. Keeper wise, Foster would be in as experienced head, but only a stop-gap until Prior returns, Davis has given up the gloves at the moment and Butler is to be after Prior, but a summer or two more in first class to hone his keeping will make sure his keeping is not exposed and England discard him to early in Test cricket. Bowling wise, pace options are self explanatory though i would like to see Finn back at some point. Spinner wise I believe that Ali and Root have enough about them to do a decent job but we do rely on the pace

  • SirViv1973 on June 4, 2014, 21:54 GMT

    Cont. but he is quite fortunate as his first forays in to Int cricket have not been impressive. I would play Root at 6, I don't like him at the top & he did well at 6 when he first got in to the side. Without a frontline spinner Stokes gets in at 7 although his lack of of cricket recently is a slight concern. It looks doubtful that Prior will be fit & in his absence Buttler looks nailed on after his 100 at the w.e but his FC record is a major worry for me & IMO needs more FC cricket as a keeper & needs to score more runs. There have been growing calls for Foster & if he was 3 or 4 yrs younger I would be in favor but I do think we need an eye on the future, I would probably have given Bairstow another go. As for the bowlers, despite his recent injuries Broad remains an automatic pick with Anderson, which should leave Jordan vying with Plunkett for the other place. Despite Jordan's fine showing in the ODIs I would go with Plunkett for the extra pace he's seems to found this season.

  • on June 4, 2014, 21:49 GMT

    England has never been a good cricket side...there claim to fame is an ashes series win.....waste of time ....don't reinvent try discovering

  • SirViv1973 on June 4, 2014, 21:42 GMT

    Ideally I would like to see a dynamic partner for Cook, but none of the options being mentioned seem to offer this so I would go with Robson. He has been pretty consistent over the past year & deserves a chance. Your best batsman should bat 4 & that is where I would put Bell, his record at 3 is poor. I would like to see Taylor given a run in the side & bat at 3 but despite another prolific series with the Lions in SRL recently & a steady start to the FC season he dosen't seem to be in the running, in his absence I would go with Ali. If we are not going to go with a main spinner then Ali will have to fill in there. How Samit is being talked about again as an part time spin option is beyond me. He played 5 tests in Asia in 2012 he managed a top score of 33 & managed only 4 wickets at an ave in the mid 60's. His batting, bowling & fielding are nowhere near test standard. I would like to have seen Vince in at 5 but again he doesn't really seem to be in the mix so I would go with Ballance.

  • contrarian on June 4, 2014, 21:41 GMT

    Damn!! Why do they get to reinvent just before India's tour!!!

  • WiseOldHead on June 4, 2014, 21:21 GMT

    The keeper question is an interesting one. Massive fan of Buttler but he shouldn't be exposed at Test level just yet. Give him time to develop his keeping. Big fan of Prior as well but I'm against this policy of rushing players back when they're just about fit rather than giving them time to get really fit. I'd go for Foster. I'm reminded of the great Bob Taylor who made his Test debut at the age of 29 and then had to wait seven years for his next cap because of the presence of the even greater APE Knott. Taylor won 56 more caps between the age of 36 and 43 during which 'c.Taylor b.Willis/Botham' was up there with 'c.Marsh b.Lillee'. Foster at age 34 is plenty young enough and should be given a go.

  • on June 4, 2014, 19:29 GMT

    Alex hales??? You shouldnt discard a player who gets a t20 international hundred. Hales has the class, talent and the explosiveness to fill the role.

  • on June 4, 2014, 19:14 GMT

    where is James Taylor

  • stumpedlloyd on June 4, 2014, 19:08 GMT

    Matt Prior? Seriously? The guy was dropped from The Ashes side because he was not performing with the bat and had become rather atrocious behind the stumps. What exactly has he done since then to set the world alight? Wow, he kept wickets for 172 overs. The sooner he gets out of English cricket, the better.

  • on June 4, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    My team 1)Cook 2)Compton 3) Root 4) Bell 5) Balance 6) Stokes 7)Butler 8) Broad 9)Onions 10)Anderson11)Panesar

  • on June 4, 2014, 18:46 GMT

    I want to see moeen ali in the squad

  • on June 4, 2014, 18:32 GMT

    Why does James Taylor not get a mention? Never really got a proper go a couple of years ago, and his averages in both first class and list A cricket still hover around the 50 mark.

  • on June 4, 2014, 18:20 GMT

    BUTTLER should continue test also

  • Sigismund on June 4, 2014, 18:18 GMT

    Disappointed there is no talk of Bopara, the so-far-squandered-by-mismanagement batsman of his generation. He has oodles of experience in getting big hundreds, finishing games and adapting to situations - this latter demonstrated by his recent supreme performances down the order in ODIs. He's a properly classy top-order batsman, and his experience in the middle order would allow younger talent to be deployed and flourish around him. It would also give him the chance of redemption - it could finally be his time; and if he gives his best then he will be some player to have. He'd also help cover the slow bowling option with Moeen and Root. He's my number 4, with Bell at 3.

  • WaltonGentlman on June 4, 2014, 18:18 GMT

    Although considering that England have played the ODI series like we're still in the nineties i fully expect recalls for Hick, Ramprakash and Croft!

  • bobmartin on June 4, 2014, 17:48 GMT

    England being England... and me being a natural born cynic... I'm not expecting too many surprises... The one that would surprise me though... if he gets the nod, is Prior... How do you recall someone who was dropped for lack of form with gloves and bat, when he's done virtually nothing since... It just doesn't make any sense.. But there again England selectors rarely do make sense, so nothing new there. I told you I was a cynic.... And as well as being a cynic I'm also a pedant.. the announcement will on Thursday, not Wednesday as is stated in the article...

  • on June 4, 2014, 17:41 GMT

    You missed out Lees, Rashid, Brooks, Bresnan and Sidebottom!

    Seriously Prior has benefitted from being dropped. Not by regaining form but by others not having a real opportunity

    Hopefully Plunkett won't just be the orange bib wearer for the season like a few others have been recentky

  • WiseOldHead on June 4, 2014, 17:38 GMT

    The keeper question is an interesting one. Massive fan of Buttler but he shouldn't be exposed at Test level just yet. Give him time to develop his keeping. Big fan of Prior as well but I'm against this policy of rushing players back when they're just about fit rather than giving them time to get really fit. I'd go for Foster. I'm reminded of the great Bob Taylor who made his Test debut at the age of 29 and then had to wait seven years for his next cap because of the presence of the even greater APE Knott. Taylor won 56 more caps between the age of 36 and 43 during which 'c.Taylor b.Willis/Botham' was up there with 'c.Marsh b.Lillee'. Foster at age 34 is plenty young enough and should be given a go.

  • CodandChips on June 4, 2014, 17:30 GMT

    Hence depending on conditions either: 1.Cook 2.Lyth 3.Bell 4.Root 5.Taylor (Ballance) 6.Borthwick (Ali) 7.Davies (Foster) 8.Broad 9.Jordan 10.Roland-Jones 11.Anderson

    Or: 1.Cook 2.Lyth 3.Bell 4.Root 5.Taylor (Ballance) 6.Stokes 7.Davies (Foster) 8.Broad 9.Roland-Jones 10.Anderson 11.Kerrigan

    Hence I'd pick a squad of the following players (not including any in brackets. They are just alternatives I wouldn't mind). That makes a squad of 13.

    I doubt England will go this way. But it's my way.

  • Ragav999 on June 4, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    What a turnover of personnel caused by Mitchell Johnson! To think that the English fans were hoping for his selection at the beginning of the Ashes in Australia. The resurgence of Mitchell Johnson is one for the history books.

  • CodandChips on June 4, 2014, 17:25 GMT

    The spinner is interesting. I like Kerrigan, the leading English spinner in division 1. If he plays, pick a seam-bowling allrounder. Woakes' lack of cricket recently has made me switch to Stokes. I doubt England will go this route. I assume they'll pick a batsman who bowls spin. If they do I hope they don't select Stokes as well but 4 front-line seamers. Patel may top the batting this season but his bowling looks innocuous and he failed to convince me during his international career. I like Borthwick as although he bowls some dross he takes wickets. And he bats in the top order at Durham, which is no mean feat. I wouldn't be opposed to Ali though.

    Anderson and Broad gurenteed. Onions would surely be close if fit. Shazad, Plunkett, Wood, Barker must all be contenders. I'd hope not Bresnan. I'd go with Roland-Jones, who has had an excellent start to the season, and averages less than the 5 bowlers with more wickets than him this season. I also like Jordan.

    (continued)

  • axe_hay on June 4, 2014, 17:24 GMT

    Is James Taylor's international career over at 24 ? He should be a first choice no.4 in the team. Somerset's James Hildreth has been constantly ignored despite a 40+ average and years of consistent performance.Toby Roland-Jones has been in excellent form hence should be considered as a seam bowling option.Steven Davies is another option for the wicketkeeper's position , as Bairstow has failed with the opportunities given to him.Alex Hales can also be tried as he could become a Sehwag/Warner batting up the order.

    My Test XI would be - Cook,Robson/Hales,Root,Ballance,Taylor,Prior/Davies,Stokes,Anderson,Broad,Roland-Jones,Borthwick and Jordan as the 12th Man. If there is a squad for the future, this is it.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on June 4, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Yeah we've seen and heard all this before. The biggest change we're likely to see is the same old types of players turning up with different hair styles.

  • CodandChips on June 4, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Am looking forward to the tests. The debate for the squad has been going on a while.

    I would open with Cook and Lyth. Lyth deserves to be selected. Time county performances were recognised. Bell should take responsibility and bat 3. Root at 4. Then at 5 the choice between Taylor or Ballance. Ballance has had the better season, but with my bias Taylor gets selected, as I feel he deserves to be rewarded for consistent performances in county cricket, whereas Ballance hasn't completely convinced me yet.

    As a keeper my first choice choice would be Davies. However his giving up of the gloves persuades me to go with Foster. Let Buttler work on both his white-ball and red-ball games with Lancashire.

    I doubt England go this way. I assume Robson and Ballance will be in their top 5. Prior will play unless extremely injured I reckon. Don't know who England will pick if he's not ready.

    (continued)

  • SDHM on June 4, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Personally would go with: Cook, Robson, Ali, Bell, Ballance, Stokes, Buttler, Borthwick, Jordan, Broad, Anderson. Plunkett 12th man.

    Don't see what Root and Prior have done to earn recalls, so they're back off the the counties to work on their game, in Prior's case to refind form & confidence with both bat & gloves & in Root's to worj on his game & come back stronger - certainly not writing them off, they both hopefully have a big part to play going forward. Ballance deserves more than one Test, although Vince is very close to the side & hopefully Taylor can start converting his starts into big scores too. Ali & Borthwick handle the spin - one an offie, the other a leggie, both capable of turning it both ways, a nice balance - and supply backbone with the bat too. Stokes & Buttler provide the dash & dare, whilst Jordan looks an exciting cricketer too. A pipe dream, however - it'll be safe, boring, & one of Stokes or Ali will end up at 8, a tragic waste of their talent.

  • cricket-india on June 4, 2014, 17:06 GMT

    you'd think ben stokes was also a certainity along with cook, bell, broad and anderson...

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  • cricket-india on June 4, 2014, 17:06 GMT

    you'd think ben stokes was also a certainity along with cook, bell, broad and anderson...

  • SDHM on June 4, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Personally would go with: Cook, Robson, Ali, Bell, Ballance, Stokes, Buttler, Borthwick, Jordan, Broad, Anderson. Plunkett 12th man.

    Don't see what Root and Prior have done to earn recalls, so they're back off the the counties to work on their game, in Prior's case to refind form & confidence with both bat & gloves & in Root's to worj on his game & come back stronger - certainly not writing them off, they both hopefully have a big part to play going forward. Ballance deserves more than one Test, although Vince is very close to the side & hopefully Taylor can start converting his starts into big scores too. Ali & Borthwick handle the spin - one an offie, the other a leggie, both capable of turning it both ways, a nice balance - and supply backbone with the bat too. Stokes & Buttler provide the dash & dare, whilst Jordan looks an exciting cricketer too. A pipe dream, however - it'll be safe, boring, & one of Stokes or Ali will end up at 8, a tragic waste of their talent.

  • CodandChips on June 4, 2014, 17:17 GMT

    Am looking forward to the tests. The debate for the squad has been going on a while.

    I would open with Cook and Lyth. Lyth deserves to be selected. Time county performances were recognised. Bell should take responsibility and bat 3. Root at 4. Then at 5 the choice between Taylor or Ballance. Ballance has had the better season, but with my bias Taylor gets selected, as I feel he deserves to be rewarded for consistent performances in county cricket, whereas Ballance hasn't completely convinced me yet.

    As a keeper my first choice choice would be Davies. However his giving up of the gloves persuades me to go with Foster. Let Buttler work on both his white-ball and red-ball games with Lancashire.

    I doubt England go this way. I assume Robson and Ballance will be in their top 5. Prior will play unless extremely injured I reckon. Don't know who England will pick if he's not ready.

    (continued)

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on June 4, 2014, 17:22 GMT

    Yeah we've seen and heard all this before. The biggest change we're likely to see is the same old types of players turning up with different hair styles.

  • axe_hay on June 4, 2014, 17:24 GMT

    Is James Taylor's international career over at 24 ? He should be a first choice no.4 in the team. Somerset's James Hildreth has been constantly ignored despite a 40+ average and years of consistent performance.Toby Roland-Jones has been in excellent form hence should be considered as a seam bowling option.Steven Davies is another option for the wicketkeeper's position , as Bairstow has failed with the opportunities given to him.Alex Hales can also be tried as he could become a Sehwag/Warner batting up the order.

    My Test XI would be - Cook,Robson/Hales,Root,Ballance,Taylor,Prior/Davies,Stokes,Anderson,Broad,Roland-Jones,Borthwick and Jordan as the 12th Man. If there is a squad for the future, this is it.

  • CodandChips on June 4, 2014, 17:25 GMT

    The spinner is interesting. I like Kerrigan, the leading English spinner in division 1. If he plays, pick a seam-bowling allrounder. Woakes' lack of cricket recently has made me switch to Stokes. I doubt England will go this route. I assume they'll pick a batsman who bowls spin. If they do I hope they don't select Stokes as well but 4 front-line seamers. Patel may top the batting this season but his bowling looks innocuous and he failed to convince me during his international career. I like Borthwick as although he bowls some dross he takes wickets. And he bats in the top order at Durham, which is no mean feat. I wouldn't be opposed to Ali though.

    Anderson and Broad gurenteed. Onions would surely be close if fit. Shazad, Plunkett, Wood, Barker must all be contenders. I'd hope not Bresnan. I'd go with Roland-Jones, who has had an excellent start to the season, and averages less than the 5 bowlers with more wickets than him this season. I also like Jordan.

    (continued)

  • Ragav999 on June 4, 2014, 17:28 GMT

    What a turnover of personnel caused by Mitchell Johnson! To think that the English fans were hoping for his selection at the beginning of the Ashes in Australia. The resurgence of Mitchell Johnson is one for the history books.

  • CodandChips on June 4, 2014, 17:30 GMT

    Hence depending on conditions either: 1.Cook 2.Lyth 3.Bell 4.Root 5.Taylor (Ballance) 6.Borthwick (Ali) 7.Davies (Foster) 8.Broad 9.Jordan 10.Roland-Jones 11.Anderson

    Or: 1.Cook 2.Lyth 3.Bell 4.Root 5.Taylor (Ballance) 6.Stokes 7.Davies (Foster) 8.Broad 9.Roland-Jones 10.Anderson 11.Kerrigan

    Hence I'd pick a squad of the following players (not including any in brackets. They are just alternatives I wouldn't mind). That makes a squad of 13.

    I doubt England will go this way. But it's my way.

  • WiseOldHead on June 4, 2014, 17:38 GMT

    The keeper question is an interesting one. Massive fan of Buttler but he shouldn't be exposed at Test level just yet. Give him time to develop his keeping. Big fan of Prior as well but I'm against this policy of rushing players back when they're just about fit rather than giving them time to get really fit. I'd go for Foster. I'm reminded of the great Bob Taylor who made his Test debut at the age of 29 and then had to wait seven years for his next cap because of the presence of the even greater APE Knott. Taylor won 56 more caps between the age of 36 and 43 during which 'c.Taylor b.Willis/Botham' was up there with 'c.Marsh b.Lillee'. Foster at age 34 is plenty young enough and should be given a go.

  • on June 4, 2014, 17:41 GMT

    You missed out Lees, Rashid, Brooks, Bresnan and Sidebottom!

    Seriously Prior has benefitted from being dropped. Not by regaining form but by others not having a real opportunity

    Hopefully Plunkett won't just be the orange bib wearer for the season like a few others have been recentky