Sri Lanka in England 2014 June 17, 2014

Panesar 'very difficult' to select - Moores

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As well as England's attack performed to push them within a wicket of victory on the final day at Lord's, they were screaming out for a specialist spinner, especially while they waited for the ball to reverse swing.

Moeen Ali did little wrong on his debut, picking up a notable maiden Test wicket in Kumar Sangakkara, and was not overawed by the situation. But nor did he cause the Sri Lankans many concerns, apart from one delivery on the final day which nearly took Sangakkara's edge to gully.

The ideal plan in the post-Graeme Swann era would have been to return to Monty Panesar, who played second fiddle to Swann but still has 167 Test wickets at 34.71. However, such are his problems, some form-related yet mostly off the field, that it appears he is further from consideration than he has ever been.

Peter Moores, the England coach, made it clear he was not in their immediate thoughts. "Monty is the most experienced Test match bowler but through other issues he has made it very difficult to look at him at the moment as an option," Moores said. "The key is to ... put himself up for selection like anyone else. Monty has to get himself in that place."

Panesar was given a second chance by the previous selection regime when he was named in the Ashes squad to tour Australia despite a season which had seen him fined for urinating on a bouncer outside a nightclub. That incident prompted a move from Sussex to Essex, where he then signed a permanent two-year contract, but this season he was dropped for timekeeping issues.

His figures in first-class cricket this summer are 26 wickets at 26.00. That puts him second among England-qualified spinners, behind Kent's Adam Riley, who has 33 wickets at 27.24. In the Sunday Times, Andrew Strauss touted Riley as an option for the India series while Kerry O'Keeffe, the former Australia spinner turned renowned commentator, has been impressed by brief glimpses over the internet.

Moores, too, has noted Riley's progress - which has kept James Tredwell out of Kent's Championship team - but has not forgotten Simon Kerrigan, who until six weeks ago was under Moores' charge at Lancashire.

"Kerrigan statistically has been the most prolific in first-class cricket," he said. "If you take that as one of the gauges it puts him in the frame. Obviously Riley has come on the scene.

"We are going to have to identify our next spinner, there's no doubt about that. All sides need the option of a frontline spinner. [One, or a couple] are going to have to play for us to be able to cover all options ... otherwise it is going to be a weakness in our ranks that people will be able to try to exploit."

Moeen's bowling has developed significantly over the last two seasons with Worcestershire, during which time he has averaged 32.56 in the Championship compared to 40.43 overall in his first-class career, but he was only given 12 overs on the final day while Joe Root was used shortly before the second new ball was taken.

It remains to be seen how much of role Moeen will play in the second Test at Headingley, but Moores said he could still be the option when India arrive.

"I think he has the chance at the moment," he said. "He is getting better quite quickly. He is going to have to adjust to take wickets as a Test match bowler."

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Kruns on June 19, 2014, 15:57 GMT

    @accountancyman :- I Never meant financially India is a super power.... England with the current team may be the fav to win against india in there own backyard but the if they consider previous records and consider them to be easy going then i feel it would be a big mistake ..... With the line India currently has and ofcourse they are flaws but as soon as the same is solved in near future India will be a super power with the game thats what i meant...... Also Mark my words for India to do well overseas with the current set of individuals ..... The side which had beaten india last time around was a different england side but currently they are not at all top of the game ...

  • accountancyman on June 19, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    AdhishS - its because Tredwell form with red ball is non-existent. Quite a good limited overs spinner but not really an option for test match cricket. Better to go with somebody with form - even if we dont really recognise the name. If they do well then we will recognise the name.

  • accountancyman on June 19, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    Kruns - India is superpower of cricket. Iassume you mean financially seeing as they didnt win an overseas test match for almost 4 years. I dont mean a series, I mean any single game. And last here were destroyed 4-0 by and England team playing at 50%.

    England are for sure in a rebuilding phase and with no frontline spinner will struggle to dominate test matches - but they still have to be backed to beat Indian losers

  • AdhishS on June 19, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    Why doesnt England consider Tredwell in test matches? He is a very decent off spinner in the classical mould... flighting and dipping the ball. And he has done very well in the limited overs matches for England even against sub-continent batsmen who are considered to be better players of spin bowling...

  • Harlequin. on June 19, 2014, 10:39 GMT

    When I read the headline I thought it was going to be about cricketing reasons; something like 'he isn't a good enough bowler to make up for the fact he doesn't bat and can't field'. Now it turns out it is because of him as a person I am quite disappointed because it seems like all his issues stemmed from being left out of the England squad after the India tour. Perfectly understandable, to be one of the main reasons for winning the first tour in a country for decades and then being left out of the next one must make a player wonder what he has to do to get selected. @Kruns and AdhishS - you are correct, The Ashes is the topmost priority.

  • Dafffid on June 19, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    Irrespective of who is and is not worthy of selection, this public embarrassment of players is appalling and typical of England's behaviour over recent years. Who can forget putting Monty in the XI then Cook throwing the ball to Root - could they try any harder to destroy a player's confidence? And their handling of Finn and Harmison was equally shambolic. I pity the contenders for the spinner's position, particularly as England seem committed to playing one or two all-rounders as front-line bowlers - they'll have no stability, no continuity and have their confidence torn to ribbons in no time.

  • Kruns on June 19, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    @AdhishS Agree with you......

    @SirViv1973 :- Current England team is good for nothing and after dropping KP they have become worst.... Yes there were some performances in Lords by Root and Balance but there is a long way to go and trust me any subcontinent team can win against this current england setup.... India is a superpower of Cricket although even they are going through a rebuilding process but cant even compare a single player of england against Indians. If you give worlds best eleven team to cook i guess he will make a mess of it but sure cant win it....

  • riaz.m on June 19, 2014, 10:10 GMT

    Just what exactly is Monty's crime? Has no person, let alone a cricketer, been ever late for a meeting or failed to turn up at all? I doubt it very much. Monty is being made a scapegoat and its probably eating into his confidence both on and off the pitch. Its the performance on the pitch that matters . If that warrants selection so be it.

  • AdhishS on June 19, 2014, 10:06 GMT

    @SirViv1973 : I agree with most part of your post except for the last part "a series win against ind would be welcome but is not essential at this stage of the rebuilding process"... I mean I sometimes wonder if winning the Ashes is the only topmost priority for England and Australia at all times???

  • bobmartin on June 19, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    Managing difficult players is something the ECB seem reluctant to do... or are maybe incapable of doing. It's easier to just not select them that it is to make the time and effort to educate them. Have the ECB not learned any lessons from what they have just been through with Pietersen.

  • Kruns on June 19, 2014, 15:57 GMT

    @accountancyman :- I Never meant financially India is a super power.... England with the current team may be the fav to win against india in there own backyard but the if they consider previous records and consider them to be easy going then i feel it would be a big mistake ..... With the line India currently has and ofcourse they are flaws but as soon as the same is solved in near future India will be a super power with the game thats what i meant...... Also Mark my words for India to do well overseas with the current set of individuals ..... The side which had beaten india last time around was a different england side but currently they are not at all top of the game ...

  • accountancyman on June 19, 2014, 12:42 GMT

    AdhishS - its because Tredwell form with red ball is non-existent. Quite a good limited overs spinner but not really an option for test match cricket. Better to go with somebody with form - even if we dont really recognise the name. If they do well then we will recognise the name.

  • accountancyman on June 19, 2014, 12:40 GMT

    Kruns - India is superpower of cricket. Iassume you mean financially seeing as they didnt win an overseas test match for almost 4 years. I dont mean a series, I mean any single game. And last here were destroyed 4-0 by and England team playing at 50%.

    England are for sure in a rebuilding phase and with no frontline spinner will struggle to dominate test matches - but they still have to be backed to beat Indian losers

  • AdhishS on June 19, 2014, 10:51 GMT

    Why doesnt England consider Tredwell in test matches? He is a very decent off spinner in the classical mould... flighting and dipping the ball. And he has done very well in the limited overs matches for England even against sub-continent batsmen who are considered to be better players of spin bowling...

  • Harlequin. on June 19, 2014, 10:39 GMT

    When I read the headline I thought it was going to be about cricketing reasons; something like 'he isn't a good enough bowler to make up for the fact he doesn't bat and can't field'. Now it turns out it is because of him as a person I am quite disappointed because it seems like all his issues stemmed from being left out of the England squad after the India tour. Perfectly understandable, to be one of the main reasons for winning the first tour in a country for decades and then being left out of the next one must make a player wonder what he has to do to get selected. @Kruns and AdhishS - you are correct, The Ashes is the topmost priority.

  • Dafffid on June 19, 2014, 10:22 GMT

    Irrespective of who is and is not worthy of selection, this public embarrassment of players is appalling and typical of England's behaviour over recent years. Who can forget putting Monty in the XI then Cook throwing the ball to Root - could they try any harder to destroy a player's confidence? And their handling of Finn and Harmison was equally shambolic. I pity the contenders for the spinner's position, particularly as England seem committed to playing one or two all-rounders as front-line bowlers - they'll have no stability, no continuity and have their confidence torn to ribbons in no time.

  • Kruns on June 19, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    @AdhishS Agree with you......

    @SirViv1973 :- Current England team is good for nothing and after dropping KP they have become worst.... Yes there were some performances in Lords by Root and Balance but there is a long way to go and trust me any subcontinent team can win against this current england setup.... India is a superpower of Cricket although even they are going through a rebuilding process but cant even compare a single player of england against Indians. If you give worlds best eleven team to cook i guess he will make a mess of it but sure cant win it....

  • riaz.m on June 19, 2014, 10:10 GMT

    Just what exactly is Monty's crime? Has no person, let alone a cricketer, been ever late for a meeting or failed to turn up at all? I doubt it very much. Monty is being made a scapegoat and its probably eating into his confidence both on and off the pitch. Its the performance on the pitch that matters . If that warrants selection so be it.

  • AdhishS on June 19, 2014, 10:06 GMT

    @SirViv1973 : I agree with most part of your post except for the last part "a series win against ind would be welcome but is not essential at this stage of the rebuilding process"... I mean I sometimes wonder if winning the Ashes is the only topmost priority for England and Australia at all times???

  • bobmartin on June 19, 2014, 7:30 GMT

    Managing difficult players is something the ECB seem reluctant to do... or are maybe incapable of doing. It's easier to just not select them that it is to make the time and effort to educate them. Have the ECB not learned any lessons from what they have just been through with Pietersen.

  • on June 18, 2014, 18:45 GMT

    Moen Ali is little more than a useful county spinner who can take wickets on helpful surfaces. England have to identify a top candidate and pick him and keep him in the side.

  • rizwan1981 on June 18, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    Monty castled TENDULKAR who is a good player of spin bowling .

    Monty is a MATCH WINNER and should play - If Australia had been as strait-laced as England , Warne and Douggie Walters would NEVER have worn the baggy green . Take the recent example of WARNER who bashed the Steyn and Morkel in South Africa and won the series for the Aussies .

  • on June 18, 2014, 16:51 GMT

    Look at Sri Lanka's team - they have a spinner who looks entirely innocuous in Rangana Herath. He has a lot of wickets, is very experienced, and very effective.

    England have a similar spinner to Herath with Simon Kerrigan. Looks innocuous, but county success doesn't lie. He is a better spinner than Monty IMO, and it's time we got over Kerrigan's awful debut.

    He had an excellent Lion's tour, and it's time to turn to Kerrigan.

  • SirViv1973 on June 18, 2014, 16:05 GMT

    @Praspunter, Re Finn and the Eng attack, Finn has had alot of problems and although he's bowled well for Middlesex this year there is no sense in rushing him back too soon. He still has a big international future and if he keeps going in the right direction he could be a big player for Eng come the ashes next year. As for the rest of the attack, I don't think the seam bowling is all that bad at the moment. Jordan is showing some promise and needs to be persuerved with. Plunkett's figures wern't great at Lords but if there's some pace & a bit of bounce in the Leeds surface I think he will go well there and he is also bowling up at the 140 mark. We also need to look at the big picture, a series win against ind would be welcome but is not essential at this stage of the rebuilding process.

  • CricStaah on June 18, 2014, 14:55 GMT

    The phrase - form is temporary class in permenant comes to mind. this is a guy who has managed to bowl out the top batsmen in the world and produce some real performances when Eng have needed it.

    I think the ECB need to realise that it will be in everyones interest that Monty finds his form rather than this dismissive attitude with quotes like: "The key is to ... put himself up for selection like anyone else. Monty has to get himself in that place."

    Someone needs to really sit down with the lad and basically "MANAGE" him back into the team or atleast try to do so. Rather than leave him to his own devices and let his career further deteriorate.

    Some players need this sort of treatment in order to get the best out of them. KP is a classic example of where ECB failed.

    Monty is far better than any of the other useless bowlers we have seen in county an he has proved himself in all formats on the international stage - bring him back and give him a final shot!

  • PrasPunter on June 18, 2014, 13:24 GMT

    What are the odds of Eng beating india this time ? For starters, it appears india's batsmen are better than Eng. Not sure about their bowling line-up though. Eng has just Jimmy and Broad and a couple of fill-ins. They would do well by going back to Finn who bowls at 140+ to give them a good chance of beating the indians. Better play 4 pacers rather than placing their punt on unknowns.

  • SirViv1973 on June 18, 2014, 13:10 GMT

    Despite his well documented issues Monty remains Eng best option as a frontline spinner. I don't want to keep banging on about KP but the Eng mangement team gave up on trying to manage him and it seems as if they are doing the same with Monty. Of the other options I agree with @Landl47 in that they all need more experience at county level. It would be a huge ask for someone like Riley on the back of less than half a season of FC to come in to the test side and perform. Kerrigan is probably the most advanced of the younger group but it would still be a huge risk to bring him back so soon after the experience at the oval last year. Borthwick has some potential but the problem is that he only seems to be considered a part time bowler at Durham and he may well have to leave the county to further his aspirations. I do fear for us when we go to SRL later in the year. We don't have 1 spinner at the moment and we will need to some how find 2 by then if we are to compete.

  • cloudmess on June 18, 2014, 12:08 GMT

    Typical response from Moores, whose coaching style is more about dotting the i's and crossing the t's and not allowing anything to upset his mechanically ordered mind. Can you imagine Darren Lehmann allowing Australia's best available spinner just to languish in the wilderness? He'd approach the player, put an arm round him, and say "ok, what seems to be problem?" - and sort it out that way. Moores has no real empathy with his players, something which Flower - for all his qualities - lacked too. Why has it been beyond the England management to look out for and after their best players in the last year or so? Do they not understand what it means to manage? Is it just a coincidence that we seem to have lost so many - KP, Finn, Trott, Swann, Monty (with Prior so nearly another, and with both Cook and Anderson exhausted and out of form) all at once?

  • real_gone_gadd on June 18, 2014, 12:07 GMT

    No mention of Scott Borthwick, England's most recently selected specialist Test spinnner!

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on June 18, 2014, 10:49 GMT

    Wasn't long ago exact same issue was matter of great consternation among Aussie fans,1 which their Eng counters took good delight in and were not shy of pointing it out to Aus fans either.Shoe's on other foot now.Cricket and time-what great levellers!

  • on June 18, 2014, 10:18 GMT

    Only the coach gets a 2nd term in office not the players. Monty is the next best spinner available with experience. He can turn up late to a test match late and still contribute better than Cook who is just a matter of time before he will retire based on merits.

  • on June 18, 2014, 10:03 GMT

    As an Australian, I find this situation very bizarre even though we've gone through something similar recently. Yes, we had Warne for over a decade - but we also had McGill earmarked for the same period. And THEN we had Brad Hogg in line behind him, who is one of THE truly underrated players of world cricket. Three cricketers who a lot of countries would give their eye teeth to have in their team. We only had our spin-crisis after they were all retired at basically the same time.

    Meanwhile England has Swann for, what, four-five years? Even with injury concerns there's no clear successor? Now it's complete chaos - every week another name gets thrown in the ring. Kerrigan? Tredwell? Riley? Patel? Panesar? Borthwick? Ali? I can't even keep up with them all!

  • Madpashcrickers on June 18, 2014, 8:44 GMT

    Surely this is another indictment of Saker as England's head bowling coach - they took Swann on the Ashes tour knowing he had a shoulder problem and was unlikely to ever be able perform to his previous level again - he was duly taken apart by Watson and had to retire to everyone's apparent shock - but why the surprise? - they knew his shoulder was gone or if they didn't they should have known due to their apparently renowned data-driven regime. No succession planning was in place, Kerrigan was obviously psychologically underprepared on debut - if memory serves me correctly he had 1 hour's notice that he was playing. England's warm-up schedule in Australia was a joke so Monty didn't get a fair shout, should not Saker be taking responsibility for ensuring there were at least some reasonable contingency options for Swanny's retirement?

  • Paul_Somerset on June 18, 2014, 8:31 GMT

    Moeen Ali, Monty Panesar, Adam Riley, Danny Briggs ... Division 2 spinners one and all. Simon Kerrigan was selected on the basis of his Div. 2 wickets and proved hopelessly out of his depth.

    When on earth will England realize just how second-rate the cricket is in Division2? Surely Northants and Lancs are proving that right now, as they head straight back down from Div.1.

    If Samit Patel were playing in Division 2, he would be England's regular spinner now, but because he plays against Test-class batsmen in Div.1, he's deemed inadequate.

  • WillDuff on June 18, 2014, 8:23 GMT

    Panesar's chances won't have been helped by Hampshire's complete destruction of the Essex 'attack' yesterday.

  • on June 18, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    The best way of helping Monty recover would be to name him in the test team.

  • on June 18, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    Same old selection process. To begin with you face has to fit!!!! England management are too busy making sure they do not loose "supremacy" over other countries. They are most concerned about being the controllers of the game rather than exemplary in the game. We have problems with Captain Cook who is blaming everyone else but himself?, coming out with criticism of other teams?, claiming wickets when players were not out ?, selecting players not on performance and ability. Come on get our own house in order before we begin to dictate to the rest of the world.

  • landl47 on June 18, 2014, 5:25 GMT

    @Mark Long: Briggs is a handy bowler, but he too is very young, only just turned 23. I don't think a bowler with such limited experience is ready for test cricket.

    Incidentally, I see that Riley is only 22, as well, so I would make the same comment about him. England has some useful spinners coming up, but they aren't experienced enough to play tests. You saw what happened to young Kerrigan, who is also a good bowler but proved to be not experienced enough to handle the pressure of test cricket.

    Broad, Anderson and Finn were all rushed into the side at a very early age and all went through all kinds of problems (Finn is still going through them). Let the youngsters develop a bit in county cricket before exposing them to test match opposition. Jordan just got his first cap at age 25 and he looked much more at home than many of the young ones.

  • CricketingStargazer on June 18, 2014, 5:24 GMT

    @landl47 Spot on. Ravi Patel has replaced Ollie Rayner (anyone remember him?) as Middlesex spinner and is a far more attacking bowler. There are some intriguing hints that the selectors are watching his progress already. He's young and has not played many games as Middlesex can rarely afford the luxury of two spinners, with Rayner's ability to bat at 7 or 8 getting him the nod, but there is no question that, long-term, Middlesex will go with Ravi Patel.

  • on June 18, 2014, 4:51 GMT

    I find it rather odd that in talks about England's next spinner no one seems to mention Danny Briggs as a possibility. I would have though he must be up there. He is a very good bowler both attacking and defensively. I for one would love to see him get a chance. I don't think he would let England down at all. Far from it, I reckon he could easily become the next long term spinner

  • EdwinD on June 18, 2014, 4:49 GMT

    New England? I don't think so - same negative thinking, make sure the opposition have less than zero chance to win before declaring, and pick players if their face fits, as opposed to how good they are.

  • siddhartha87 on June 18, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    this is a good strategy to go with 4 seamers. They got their next 6 tests against India and Sri Lanka which are pretty weak against quality fast bowling.Bring in Onions in place of Plunkett who had a great county season. If the pitch is even more conducive to seam than bring Woakes or Stokes.

  • on June 18, 2014, 1:02 GMT

    If Moores is going to bank on Simon Kerrighan in the series against India, sorry, India is already up 3- 2 in the series. ECB should have chalked out a rehabilitation programme for Monty instead of asking to recover on his own. Monty's trouble stared form home. He cannot fix that in a hurry. But good counselling including by Moorres will bring him back. If he is the best spinner in England currently, England should get him back in the team, one way or another. Every other spinning option- Rilley, Kerrigham etc are all wate of time. Indians will wallop them ... Is Moores hearing...

  • landl47 on June 18, 2014, 1:01 GMT

    In the longer term, Ravi Patel of Middlesex has the look of a test match bowler about him. He has that quick arm which makes it very difficult to pick his variations and he maintains a very good line and length, as his performances in the shorter formats have shown. However, he is only 22 and in his first full season of county cricket and he isn't ready for tests.

    I haven't seen Riley, but his figures are pretty good for early Summer in England. He might be the best available at the moment. Moeen doesn't look a whole lot better than Root, so unless he's worth his place as a bat (and James Vince is putting up some incredible numbers in county cricket) then Root could be the occasional spinner that Moeen was in this test.

  • on June 17, 2014, 23:58 GMT

    England must be careful regarding to the way they pick their spinners. Picking an average spinner is a pretty risky affair consider how India took on Tahir and Sodhi. They would be better off to play another fast or medium pace bowler if they don't have a quality spinner.

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  • on June 17, 2014, 23:58 GMT

    England must be careful regarding to the way they pick their spinners. Picking an average spinner is a pretty risky affair consider how India took on Tahir and Sodhi. They would be better off to play another fast or medium pace bowler if they don't have a quality spinner.

  • landl47 on June 18, 2014, 1:01 GMT

    In the longer term, Ravi Patel of Middlesex has the look of a test match bowler about him. He has that quick arm which makes it very difficult to pick his variations and he maintains a very good line and length, as his performances in the shorter formats have shown. However, he is only 22 and in his first full season of county cricket and he isn't ready for tests.

    I haven't seen Riley, but his figures are pretty good for early Summer in England. He might be the best available at the moment. Moeen doesn't look a whole lot better than Root, so unless he's worth his place as a bat (and James Vince is putting up some incredible numbers in county cricket) then Root could be the occasional spinner that Moeen was in this test.

  • on June 18, 2014, 1:02 GMT

    If Moores is going to bank on Simon Kerrighan in the series against India, sorry, India is already up 3- 2 in the series. ECB should have chalked out a rehabilitation programme for Monty instead of asking to recover on his own. Monty's trouble stared form home. He cannot fix that in a hurry. But good counselling including by Moorres will bring him back. If he is the best spinner in England currently, England should get him back in the team, one way or another. Every other spinning option- Rilley, Kerrigham etc are all wate of time. Indians will wallop them ... Is Moores hearing...

  • siddhartha87 on June 18, 2014, 3:57 GMT

    this is a good strategy to go with 4 seamers. They got their next 6 tests against India and Sri Lanka which are pretty weak against quality fast bowling.Bring in Onions in place of Plunkett who had a great county season. If the pitch is even more conducive to seam than bring Woakes or Stokes.

  • EdwinD on June 18, 2014, 4:49 GMT

    New England? I don't think so - same negative thinking, make sure the opposition have less than zero chance to win before declaring, and pick players if their face fits, as opposed to how good they are.

  • on June 18, 2014, 4:51 GMT

    I find it rather odd that in talks about England's next spinner no one seems to mention Danny Briggs as a possibility. I would have though he must be up there. He is a very good bowler both attacking and defensively. I for one would love to see him get a chance. I don't think he would let England down at all. Far from it, I reckon he could easily become the next long term spinner

  • CricketingStargazer on June 18, 2014, 5:24 GMT

    @landl47 Spot on. Ravi Patel has replaced Ollie Rayner (anyone remember him?) as Middlesex spinner and is a far more attacking bowler. There are some intriguing hints that the selectors are watching his progress already. He's young and has not played many games as Middlesex can rarely afford the luxury of two spinners, with Rayner's ability to bat at 7 or 8 getting him the nod, but there is no question that, long-term, Middlesex will go with Ravi Patel.

  • landl47 on June 18, 2014, 5:25 GMT

    @Mark Long: Briggs is a handy bowler, but he too is very young, only just turned 23. I don't think a bowler with such limited experience is ready for test cricket.

    Incidentally, I see that Riley is only 22, as well, so I would make the same comment about him. England has some useful spinners coming up, but they aren't experienced enough to play tests. You saw what happened to young Kerrigan, who is also a good bowler but proved to be not experienced enough to handle the pressure of test cricket.

    Broad, Anderson and Finn were all rushed into the side at a very early age and all went through all kinds of problems (Finn is still going through them). Let the youngsters develop a bit in county cricket before exposing them to test match opposition. Jordan just got his first cap at age 25 and he looked much more at home than many of the young ones.

  • on June 18, 2014, 5:28 GMT

    Same old selection process. To begin with you face has to fit!!!! England management are too busy making sure they do not loose "supremacy" over other countries. They are most concerned about being the controllers of the game rather than exemplary in the game. We have problems with Captain Cook who is blaming everyone else but himself?, coming out with criticism of other teams?, claiming wickets when players were not out ?, selecting players not on performance and ability. Come on get our own house in order before we begin to dictate to the rest of the world.

  • on June 18, 2014, 7:06 GMT

    The best way of helping Monty recover would be to name him in the test team.