West Indies news May 27, 2012

I am fully committed - Jerome Taylor

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Jerome Taylor, the West Indies fast bowler who has been overlooked on fitness grounds for the tour of England, has hit back at allegations by the WICB chief executive Ernest Hiliare that he has failed to commit to rehabilitation programmes put in place in the past two years to quicken his return to the Test side.

Hilaire questioned Taylor's commitment as a professional cricketer during a visit to the first Test at Lord's, saying he was very "difficult" to deal with during the various rehabilitation progammes in the last two years.

But Taylor has told ESPNcricinfo that on his home island of Jamaica nobody had ever seen fit to question his commitment and that he was "disgruntled" at the West Indies board's policy of making demands on him that applied to no other players and that these demands had stalled his comeback to international cricket.

Hilaire was critical of Taylor's indifference towards the WICB medical programmes on Sky TV. "I know, for example, Jerome was on contract, he was injured, he was put on a programme," he said. "It was exceedingly difficult to get him to commit to the programme and to apply himself, to even get him to go to Kingston to get his medical check-ups and to do what had to be done.

"He was in that programme supervised by Jimmy Adams. And there were a lot of difficulties with Jerome. He came back, got injured again, and he was put on another programme. And he was asked to play an entire series of the first-class season to demonstrate that he was fit.

"He took a break, went to Jamaica to a funeral came back and got injured. He was put on a programme. Next thing we heard he was in the IPL. Since then he has not played for Jamaica nor has he played in the IPL this year. There is only so much you can do. You have a player, you are providing for him to be on the medical programme, you are providing for him to be in that rehabilitation programme and he doesn't commit himself to it as a professional."

Taylor, who has had differences with the board over communication about his injury, dismissed Hiliaire's remarks. "I have no idea what Mr Hilaire is actually saying," he said. "Basically I do not know where he is getting his information from. As far as commitment is concerned towards cricket I don't think my efforts can ever be questioned. If you ask anybody in Jamaica, where I have played my cricket, they will tell you I am somebody who has always shown commitment towards cricket and my development."

He also said he has completely recovered from the back injury, having travelled to the USA where a combination of strength training, acupuncture and deep tissue massage were part of his recovery process.

"Everything is feeling all right. I am just going through the paces, taking my time not to rush back to anything but also making sure no stone is left uncovered," he said. According to Taylor, the WICB has not been in touch for the past 18 months except for speaking recently with the Jamaica Cricket Association president: "Nobody from the WICB has been in contact with me recently. The only person I have been in touch with was the JCA president."

Taylor last played for West Indies in the home ODI series against South Africa in mid-2010 but a chronic spine injury resurfaced to sideline him once again. He did go on to play the IPL in 2011 season for Pune Warrirors but back spasms ended his chances of a quick comeback to the international fold.

An attacking fast bowler, Taylor's best spell came ironically against England in the first week of February in 2009 when he cut through the England batting order in the second innings in Jamaica with extreme pace and swing to roll out the visitors for 51, setting up a famous innings victory. West Indies have managed to secure just two Test victories since that success.

A year ago, the WICB excluded Taylor from their limited-overs squads against India and announced that the selectors wanted him to prove his fitness during the first-class competition and then fulfill an entire season of four-day cricket to be eligible for a return to Test cricket.

"The selection committee is of the view that Jerome Taylor is required to play a full season of regional cricket in order to prove his fitness to compete adequately at the international level before being considered for selection," the release said.

Michael Holding, the former West Indies fast bowler, argues that this stipulation was unfair to a youngster like Taylor. "I don't care if Jerome Taylor wasn't committed to the rehab program or if he even had a broken leg and couldn't play," he said. "I am dealing with the principle of dealing with a young man in his twenties and putting stipulations in place which will basically rule him out for at least 18 months and possibly more."

Holding also accused Hilaire of feigning ignorance about Taylor playing the IPL as it was mandatory for any player to get an No Objection Certificate (NOC) from the home board. "He had to get that from the WICB. Is there some other phantom WICB that gave him the NOC?" he said.

According to Taylor he is "currently" not injured and is working in his native St Elizabeth in Jamaica, training at the St Elizabeth Technical School with the senior coach there. "I am not injured. I am working hard on my fitness along with the coach and we are making sure everything is sorted in due time," he said.

Taylor said making a comeback will not be difficult, but that he failed to understand why only he has been asked to pass stringent, long-term fitness standards before being reconsidered for selection.

"I have never seen any other player who has to play a full season, which to me I think is unfair," he said. "That is the only thing that has me disgruntled somewhat because if you are going to have to some criteria for returning to cricket, then let it be the criteria for all and not only for me. To me it is unclear why I have to play a full season. It makes no sense."

Taylor sent a letter (see sidebar) on June 30 last year to Tony Howard, the WICB cricket manager, "seeking some clarification as to my eligibility for selection to the West Indies cricket team." Though he got a call from a WICB official, who said the board would like Taylor to meet the national selectors, Taylor's response was why no on would reply to him in writing.

Taylor, 27, has not ruled out taking the new ball for West Indies again. But for that to happen both him and WICB have to sit down and talk. He added he was certain what exactly he needed to do to get back in favour with the WICB.

"What is happening now is not in my control," he said. "Since I have to play a full season for the comeback and if that is the criteria I have no grouse about it and I wouldn't want to get into a quarrel or argument with anyone. The only thing I can do is to make sure I do what I have to do, make sure that I get myself in a position where I am ready when they are ready to pick me."

At the same time Taylor, whose contract was bought out by Pune Warriors for the fifth IPL season, does not just want to sit idle."I am not going to sit around and wait, just carry on with life serenely. I want to play some cricket. Cricket is happening around the world."

If West Indies are not interested, perhaps the life of a Twenty20 itinerant awaits.

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Mayfield on May 30, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Headline: WI WERE LOSING BEFORE GIBSON TOOK THE POSITION. What would you do if you took the reins of an organization and your two top employees refused to sign on the dotted line? What would you do if the org. was in a failing mode for years? How would you turn it around? How would you change the losing mindset and culture of the org? Would you keep the same staff or would you have to make drastic changes? Many on this board, who are voicing their biases, and not thier rational thinking, would respond to these challenges in the same manner as I or anyone else who understands what it takes to turn around a failing org. The captain and vc(gayle + bravo) refused to sign CCs. What a message to send to the younger players. By all accounts, the senior players, were not showing the professionalism that was required. Another good message to send to the youn players. So you want to blame the decline on Gibson. Some of you should be given the job and let's see what you would do to change it.

  • Rally_Windies on May 29, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Prashanth12

    I'm sure the team you just selected would have be leading England 2-0 ....

    You could also include Doenarine and Rampaul in your squad of 13...

    when conditions do not favour spin, drop Narine and Barath ...

    Make Chanderpaul open with Gayle (chanders averages 60 opening) and play doenarine and Samuels at 5&6 , with Sammy, Taylor, Rampaul and Roach ...

    both Taylor and Sammy have Test 100's and can bat.. and if the over rate is to slow, both Samuels and Doenarine can operate, resting the quicks for short quick burst while still taking wickets... (Shillingfrod can dry up runs when he is bowling well, but is not a wicket taking option. and when he is bowling badly, he leaks runs and still can't get wickets, for the life of me I can't figure out, why with Doenarine and Samuels in the middle order why the WICB went with Shilly over Miller, I thought the left arm spinner would have been the better option)

  • essky on May 29, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    @Mayfield agreed except for bashing the board, this board needs revamping, no doubt about it. In fact WI cricket needs revamping, in the meantime we need to make best use of what we have and we are not doing that at the moment. Too many egos in the mix, both sides, but ppl want to see good players playing good cricket, not the West Indies B, because all we are doing at the moment is proving that commitment and discipline can only take us so far, talent is needed, and all the Top teams now are calling for 2nd tier test cricket. Who doubts that they would be all too eager to put West Indies there as punishment for embarrassing them for so many years.

  • essky on May 29, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Ok, the point is made, anyone who isn't willing to shape up , even the seniors, will have to ship out. Now the time is right, actually after Australia was the best time, but now is still not too late. if the Coach, Board whoever continues this show of power, WI will suffer, the players and the people who love the game. If we wait to long to bring back the experienced, stronger players, then it will reach the point of desperation, and they will come back with too much power, where they call the shots because the team needs them, and we end up in the same old boat. I'm sure all WI players, in fact the whole world knows, discipline and commitment to maintain ones place. but you can't be wrong and strong, or you won't stay strong for too long. Bring them back and we might even win with Sammy as captain, with his poor tactical acumen.

  • Prashanth12 on May 29, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    My playingXI for west indies is Gayle,Bharath,Sarwan,Darren Bravo,Chanderpaul,Samuels,Ramdin,Sammy,Taylor,Roach,Narine 12thman Dawyne Bravo

  • Mayfield on May 29, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    Keep blaming the board, Gison, Sammy and anyone else that you want to blame. Folks are acting like if with the players thay are calling for the WI were world beaters. Far from such. If this was the case, no one could put forth an argument. But we all know better. If these players would have put forth the effort Sammy put forth with his talent(which is no where close to Gayle, Sarwan, Bravo and Taylor), WI would not be in the predicament that they are in and have been in for god knows how long. Nothing is always one sided, both sides share the blame. STOP BASHING THE BOARD

  • PassingThrough on May 28, 2012, 22:14 GMT

    @SirViv1973

    I agree with you in your entire comment...

  • SirViv1973 on May 28, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    @kerron Moore Dwayne Smith his already made his test debut & made an outstanding run a ball hundred, the problem was what came after, he played 9 more tests and didn't reach 50 once! and as for all the players you mentioned none of them are being kept out the side by Sammy. Sammy's current role in the team is as a the 3rd seamer & none of the guys you mentioned could feel that role. Its easy to criticize this guy but together with the coach they have made WI a more competive outfit & managed to instill some pride. To me the bigger problem is WI just don't have a keeper who can bat. if they had someone who could bat at 6 and aver in the mid 30's then Sammy could bat at 7 & that we free up a space for a genuine extra seamer. However I would say at present Sammy could actually bat at 6 himself apart from SC & MS he has scored more runs in this series than any other WI batsmen & if he keeps working on his batting & gets his aver up over 30 then perhaps this could his role in the team.

  • SirViv1973 on May 28, 2012, 20:18 GMT

    Having watched plenty of the current series there are some seriously positive signs for WI cricket. The team has been far more competitive than what Ind were last summer for instance if Ind were in WI position on the first day of 136 -6 they would have been rolled for less than 200 & lost by an inns. Gibson and Sammy have installed some pride & fighting spirit but the truth is they are 3 to 4 good players short of being a good side who can win test matches against the better teams. They are certainly short of a bowler Taylor at his best could fill that void, If Gayle and Sarwan could also be added to the batting then perhaps plucky performances could finally be turned in to test match wins. These seniors players need to be offered the chance to buy in to what OG & have started. If they do prove to be too difficult to work with this time round then the board will need to move on without them & this will remain at best a competitive outfit short of top quality players

  • PassingThrough on May 28, 2012, 19:35 GMT

    @blackie,

    Just want to put your comment on Jerome Taylor into greater perspective, believe me I am not a Taylor fan but he was one of the Windies more incisive quicker bowlers until I think a bit of indiscipline was his down fall. But you match his stats against the Captain Sammy who has taken 69 wickets in 47 innings at 32, what therefore makes him a shoe in as the Windies third seamer, please explain. He takes a wicket every 16 overs, so he will get wickets but after a long bowl, it has been proven that our more incisive bowlers are those who have control as well as pace roach, rampaul and edwards in fact history has indicated that this has always been so. I tend to agree with Holding, the Windies need better man management..

  • Mayfield on May 30, 2012, 15:19 GMT

    Headline: WI WERE LOSING BEFORE GIBSON TOOK THE POSITION. What would you do if you took the reins of an organization and your two top employees refused to sign on the dotted line? What would you do if the org. was in a failing mode for years? How would you turn it around? How would you change the losing mindset and culture of the org? Would you keep the same staff or would you have to make drastic changes? Many on this board, who are voicing their biases, and not thier rational thinking, would respond to these challenges in the same manner as I or anyone else who understands what it takes to turn around a failing org. The captain and vc(gayle + bravo) refused to sign CCs. What a message to send to the younger players. By all accounts, the senior players, were not showing the professionalism that was required. Another good message to send to the youn players. So you want to blame the decline on Gibson. Some of you should be given the job and let's see what you would do to change it.

  • Rally_Windies on May 29, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Prashanth12

    I'm sure the team you just selected would have be leading England 2-0 ....

    You could also include Doenarine and Rampaul in your squad of 13...

    when conditions do not favour spin, drop Narine and Barath ...

    Make Chanderpaul open with Gayle (chanders averages 60 opening) and play doenarine and Samuels at 5&6 , with Sammy, Taylor, Rampaul and Roach ...

    both Taylor and Sammy have Test 100's and can bat.. and if the over rate is to slow, both Samuels and Doenarine can operate, resting the quicks for short quick burst while still taking wickets... (Shillingfrod can dry up runs when he is bowling well, but is not a wicket taking option. and when he is bowling badly, he leaks runs and still can't get wickets, for the life of me I can't figure out, why with Doenarine and Samuels in the middle order why the WICB went with Shilly over Miller, I thought the left arm spinner would have been the better option)

  • essky on May 29, 2012, 16:15 GMT

    @Mayfield agreed except for bashing the board, this board needs revamping, no doubt about it. In fact WI cricket needs revamping, in the meantime we need to make best use of what we have and we are not doing that at the moment. Too many egos in the mix, both sides, but ppl want to see good players playing good cricket, not the West Indies B, because all we are doing at the moment is proving that commitment and discipline can only take us so far, talent is needed, and all the Top teams now are calling for 2nd tier test cricket. Who doubts that they would be all too eager to put West Indies there as punishment for embarrassing them for so many years.

  • essky on May 29, 2012, 16:05 GMT

    Ok, the point is made, anyone who isn't willing to shape up , even the seniors, will have to ship out. Now the time is right, actually after Australia was the best time, but now is still not too late. if the Coach, Board whoever continues this show of power, WI will suffer, the players and the people who love the game. If we wait to long to bring back the experienced, stronger players, then it will reach the point of desperation, and they will come back with too much power, where they call the shots because the team needs them, and we end up in the same old boat. I'm sure all WI players, in fact the whole world knows, discipline and commitment to maintain ones place. but you can't be wrong and strong, or you won't stay strong for too long. Bring them back and we might even win with Sammy as captain, with his poor tactical acumen.

  • Prashanth12 on May 29, 2012, 9:09 GMT

    My playingXI for west indies is Gayle,Bharath,Sarwan,Darren Bravo,Chanderpaul,Samuels,Ramdin,Sammy,Taylor,Roach,Narine 12thman Dawyne Bravo

  • Mayfield on May 29, 2012, 0:23 GMT

    Keep blaming the board, Gison, Sammy and anyone else that you want to blame. Folks are acting like if with the players thay are calling for the WI were world beaters. Far from such. If this was the case, no one could put forth an argument. But we all know better. If these players would have put forth the effort Sammy put forth with his talent(which is no where close to Gayle, Sarwan, Bravo and Taylor), WI would not be in the predicament that they are in and have been in for god knows how long. Nothing is always one sided, both sides share the blame. STOP BASHING THE BOARD

  • PassingThrough on May 28, 2012, 22:14 GMT

    @SirViv1973

    I agree with you in your entire comment...

  • SirViv1973 on May 28, 2012, 21:56 GMT

    @kerron Moore Dwayne Smith his already made his test debut & made an outstanding run a ball hundred, the problem was what came after, he played 9 more tests and didn't reach 50 once! and as for all the players you mentioned none of them are being kept out the side by Sammy. Sammy's current role in the team is as a the 3rd seamer & none of the guys you mentioned could feel that role. Its easy to criticize this guy but together with the coach they have made WI a more competive outfit & managed to instill some pride. To me the bigger problem is WI just don't have a keeper who can bat. if they had someone who could bat at 6 and aver in the mid 30's then Sammy could bat at 7 & that we free up a space for a genuine extra seamer. However I would say at present Sammy could actually bat at 6 himself apart from SC & MS he has scored more runs in this series than any other WI batsmen & if he keeps working on his batting & gets his aver up over 30 then perhaps this could his role in the team.

  • SirViv1973 on May 28, 2012, 20:18 GMT

    Having watched plenty of the current series there are some seriously positive signs for WI cricket. The team has been far more competitive than what Ind were last summer for instance if Ind were in WI position on the first day of 136 -6 they would have been rolled for less than 200 & lost by an inns. Gibson and Sammy have installed some pride & fighting spirit but the truth is they are 3 to 4 good players short of being a good side who can win test matches against the better teams. They are certainly short of a bowler Taylor at his best could fill that void, If Gayle and Sarwan could also be added to the batting then perhaps plucky performances could finally be turned in to test match wins. These seniors players need to be offered the chance to buy in to what OG & have started. If they do prove to be too difficult to work with this time round then the board will need to move on without them & this will remain at best a competitive outfit short of top quality players

  • PassingThrough on May 28, 2012, 19:35 GMT

    @blackie,

    Just want to put your comment on Jerome Taylor into greater perspective, believe me I am not a Taylor fan but he was one of the Windies more incisive quicker bowlers until I think a bit of indiscipline was his down fall. But you match his stats against the Captain Sammy who has taken 69 wickets in 47 innings at 32, what therefore makes him a shoe in as the Windies third seamer, please explain. He takes a wicket every 16 overs, so he will get wickets but after a long bowl, it has been proven that our more incisive bowlers are those who have control as well as pace roach, rampaul and edwards in fact history has indicated that this has always been so. I tend to agree with Holding, the Windies need better man management..

  • JG2704 on May 28, 2012, 19:17 GMT

    @Kerron Moore on (May 28 2012, 17:36 PM GMT) Regardless of anything else - Sammy is more of a bowler than a batsman so you could do the bowling average and Sammy would probably come out on top.

  • JG2704 on May 28, 2012, 19:06 GMT

    @blackie - Keep posting. I very much enjoy your realist commemts

  • on May 28, 2012, 18:55 GMT

    @ BLACKIE; Man to my own heart. The key word is discipline. Nothing can be achieved without it. U can have all the talent in the world, if u r not discipline u will go nowhere. From what I have read, Taylor strikes me as a guy full of himself, very indiscipline, has made a few bucks in the IPL & thinks he can do what he likes & say what he likes. Taylor can't help WI. WI need a pair of openers & a #3 batter. There r many Taylors around. I respect Holding for his on field cricket views, but never as a cricket administrator. He should stick to what he is good at.

  • on May 28, 2012, 17:51 GMT

    The West Indies must have masses of great bowling resources if it can afford to treat someone of the calibre of Jerome Taylor in this way. Where are they all, though?

  • PassingThrough on May 28, 2012, 17:46 GMT

    @ blackie again,

    Sorry out this again, but I would say that you talked about indiscipline, player strikes etc, this has all been true, however the players currently holding up the side have been the expereienced players who were in one debacle or other Chanderpaul and Samuels, isnt this ironic and the consistent bowlers have been the experienced Roach, Rampaul and Edwards. darren Bravo has been the one emerging highlight, I would have to say that Windies need a team balanced of youth and expereince to do well rather than experimentation. Where the coach has got it wrong in my view is that he balled out the experienced players in public when he needed to take the high ground at a different level, who says that these players were not committted, this boggles my mind.....

  • SoLucien on May 28, 2012, 17:40 GMT

    Looking at this from a business perspective, how long do you think sponsors in the region are going to continue to sponsor the product that is West Cricket? The quality of our game and administration must be making it extremely difficult to even negotiate a reasonable sponsorship package. All those people from the small islands who think the heavy handed approach adopted by the likes of Hilare and company is making things or going to make better, its not and it wont. Adding Gayle, Sarwan et al to side will not result in us winning again but atleast use/manage the resources you have at your disposal, make your position definite and clear. If after that the rules are breached let the fans and supporters know so we can judge for ourselves.

  • PassingThrough on May 28, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    @blackie

    Can you send me the link or the evidence to support the fact that the Windies have been getting beaten regularly in 3 days in times past, this has been an assertion bandied about regulary by Dr. Hilaire but I have checked the stats and I cant seem to find it, the evidence has suggested that this has not happened only only very cold period in May 2009. If you cant produce the evidence I would suggest that you not put this out as a fact. The evidence as supplied by cricinfo has indicated that even in the Chis Gayle era the matches lost have gone to 5 days for the most part with a few 4 day matches, much like what is happening t present!

  • on May 28, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    Let us compare Sammy with all the other international test captains, starting with Andrew Strauss who has a batting average of 41.89, Mushfiqur Rahim (Bangladesh) Avg. 29.01, please note Rahim has less experience than Sammy, Michael Clark (Australia) Avg 48.77, MS Dhoni (India) Avg 37.32, Grame Smith (South Africa) Avg 49.64, Mahela Jayawardene (Sri Lanka) 51.17, Misbah-ul-Haq (Pakistan) Avg 45.27 and Ross Taylor (New Zealand) Avg 43.52. Let's not even compare ODI averages of the other captains!!! Other members of the team are much more talented and deserving of that position of CAPTAIN!! If they play Sammy in a T20 that's okay but ODIs and Test matches, it's horrible! They're better off giving Pollard and Dwayne Smith their test debut. Sammy is average at BEST. He is certainly NOT A TOP PERFORMER. Anyone saying otherwise is either completely oblivious to the facts or mesmerized by the spin of Ernest Hilaire and Sammy's Godfather or Godfathers.

  • on May 28, 2012, 17:35 GMT

    Sammy must have a Godfather on the WICB! Yes, he did well on his debut, what has he done since then to justify his concrete position on the WI team? He made a maiden hundred the other day but his test average is still 21.51 (including that hundred). Even the wicketkeeper, Ramdin has a slightly better average at 22.28 and a highest score of 166 against ENGLAND. Sammy is taking the space of Gayle, Kieron Pollard, Narsingh Deonarine, Asad Fudadin, Dwayne Smith, Ramnaresh Sarwan, Dwayne Bravo, Sunil Naraine, and other more talented players, some of whom deserve a test debut. All of the WI current inexperienced top order have a better average than Sammy with the exception of Kieran Powell and Kraigg Braithwaite.Darren Bravo has a way higher average than Sammy and he played 18 matches, his average is 45.61, all I can say is WOW! In the bowling department all the other bowlers have either more experience, more wickets or a higher strike rate than Sammy.

  • on May 28, 2012, 16:51 GMT

    please fire the WICB and coach Gibson now, for the sake of our cricket. these results r not nice at all. they must go now!!!!!!!!

  • TriniJay on May 28, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    The WICB have too many issuies with players at the moment. They should want the best for West Indies Cricket which is for the best XI to be playing at that time. At the moment we cannot name our best XI because they are holding us back. Taylor, along with Gayle, Sarwan, Bravo, Narine and others are all available for the tour of New Zealand so there is no excuse not to pick them.

    The board keep blaming the players but it seems to me it's the board making mistakes NOT the players!!!

  • rallyotto on May 28, 2012, 16:31 GMT

    they were asking the man to play a full season of domestic cricket after he had just competed in the domestic competition albeit not the entire season.....thus they were asking him to sit out more than a year of cricket to prove his fitness which is ludicrous!!!!

  • sharidas on May 28, 2012, 15:23 GMT

    I only wish that the WICB is run by someone genuinely interested in West Indies Cricket. It is about time that a Player from the past took WICB over. The only reason we find businessmen running Cricket Boards is to make money and nothing else.

  • blackie on May 28, 2012, 15:14 GMT

    Rally_Windies. Your purple patched Ramdin averages 22 in Tests with 9 scores over 50 runs in 79 innings. That means the team can depend on him for a good score once every 8 times he bats. When was this purple patch again??

  • blackie on May 28, 2012, 15:03 GMT

    Why don't we get real and stop being so emotional about West Indies cricket. Even though there are a lot of names being called, apart from Gayle, Narine and Sarwan (who isnt interested right now), no one else can really force his way into the team on merit and record. At present Bravo Jn, K Edwards, Chanders, Samuels, Sammy, Rampaul, Roach, Deonarine and Shillingford deserve their spots based on recent performances..

  • blackie on May 28, 2012, 14:47 GMT

    Jerome Taylor- 82 test wickets in 49 innings (less than 2 wickets per innings) at an average of 35.64. Remind me, why does he figure he should walk back into the team again??

  • mar2000 on May 28, 2012, 14:43 GMT

    Taylor and Edwards both set out to play IPL cricker in order to cash in on those big bucks. The length of Test Cricket while "slightly" injured will not permit them to last so many hours on the field of play .Being front line bowlers the West Indies will be looking forward to lively spells from the two of them ,which they could never deliver . Please do not blame Dr.Haliare amd Management for you ERRORS.

  • blackie on May 28, 2012, 14:38 GMT

    Explain to me how asking a player to play a full first class season which is about 7 or 8 game becomes unreasonable. Again I am going to ask if we can't remember that we had ALL these players we are craving for now playing for us and were getting THRASHED in 3 days REGULARLY. Along with that these same guys, spurred on by WIPA were regularly holding Windies cricket to ransom with their strikes etc. Ask anyone who has been close to Windies cricket over the last 10 years about the extreme indiscipline these same guys were guilty of. Over the last 10 years these guys have given Windies fans strikes, few wins, indiscipline, no commitment, etc. At least we can depend on the current crop to fight for West Indies cricket.

  • on May 28, 2012, 14:20 GMT

    @dickiebrewsters - a player needs time to develop his craft and become formidable of the international scene. Playing for a country is a Job and national pride, when i work and get sick i get sick leave bills paid. If a WI player gets injured who should ensure that the player gets well.... both parties.... WICB needs to develop a better man manager program both for cricket as well as fitness.

  • SoLucien on May 28, 2012, 13:51 GMT

    Here is a dumb suggestion, if the WICB is of the view that some players are not committed to the West Indies and prefer to chase IPL money why not make it conditional that 10% percent of the payments made to those players be paid over. After all the WICB is partially for the programs that would have allowed a player to rise through the ranks. In that way we have a pool of mercenaries and loyalists. Everybody makes money. The funds recieved from IPL palyers could be used to suppliment the income of those on contract and develope the game in the region. When IPL window closes they can be called on to represent the regional side only where glaring gaps of found. Its a last resort i have to confess. I just want the best for all concerned...

  • on May 28, 2012, 13:33 GMT

    No cricket admn has really shown the talent to manage talented players! To be fair the the admins this applies to most administrations in other disciplines - sports and others. What is perplexing is this state of affairs persists despite the strides made in the field of study and understanding of human behavior and modern corporate human relations.resources (HR) practices.

    WICB has been a basket case in this general scenario unable to deal with the Taylors, Gayles, Sarwans, Chanderpauls etc.

    These players also have to realise the symbiotic relationship they have with their boards and to depend on mercenary contracts with T20 tournaments will only last that much long and no more since these tournaments only attract talent already nurtured and so far have not created their own nurseries. Reminds me of the new fangled low cost airlines which preyed upon trained pilots from established full service traditional airlines.

  • bajeman on May 28, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    I don't think it is unreasonable for the WICB to ask Taylor to play a full season. Lets be reasonable, he has been injury prone,did not adhere to the rehabilitation programme, has not played any international or regional cricket since 2010, and has not even played IPL this year. How are the selectors supposed to gauge his form and fitness?In my opinion this is to the benefit of the player being properly prepared before being thrown back into demands of Test cricket.

  • govinski on May 28, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    The real W.I. selectors - hunte, hilaire and gibson should read today's article on Tim Paine, wicket keeper from Australia and see how many people are trying to ASSIST Paine to bring him back as quickly as possible. They are trying to keep players from Guyana, Jamaica and Trinidad & Tobago out of the W.I. team. And the reason is obvious. They appoint Edwards as vice captain to keep Ramdin out and will drop him very soon. gibson was England's bowling coach, and they were near the bottom, as soon as he leaves they go to the TOP. He is now our head coach, what do we expect to happen? Roach literally lives in his bosom in Barbados where gibson has 24/7 access to him, and he is still bowling a preponderance of COSTLY NO BALLS. That is bowling coach for you! Only in West Indies cricket, can poor performing officials keep their jobs, get bigger salaries and continue to fiddle whilst our cricket is "burning to ashes". This because they are accountable to no one. BLAME ICC.

    Govinski

  • on May 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT

    I can think of at least one other player! Probably not said to him in the same words, and probably worse since there was not an actual time-frame for his return. His name is Narsingh Deonarine!! But perhaps if Taylor made any effort to play for Jamaica, the current circumstances in the team would have worked in his favor for an earlier than directed comeback. After all Deonarine is back, even if still on probation. In all of it though, you might say that the WICB is consistently inconsistent. Because in contrast to Taylor, we had Dwayne Bravo sometime ago saying nobody even bother to ask him how he was doing when he was injured.

  • on May 28, 2012, 12:16 GMT

    To play "an entire season of first class cricket" in the domestic WICB tournament means what??? Play all of five or six games and so prove that one is fit enough to undertake the rigours of remaining fit for a full tour of international cricket??

    Surely Mr. Taylor, that does not seem like an unreasonable request from a potential employer in modern competetive sport. The WI season is not a long and demanding one like in other countries. Play a few games on the trot and you are back in the fray...what's the problem?

    Why is it that there is sometimes the impression that there was a bit of a clique of prima donnas in the WI team who felt that they were owed not just respect but a free pass to do as they pleased and then run to the Media when they were called upon to account?

  • danmcb on May 28, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    Windies have plenty of talent and would probably have a great team - if the old men at WICB would get out of their way.

  • maddy20 on May 28, 2012, 11:44 GMT

    His massacre of the English batsmen at Sabina park was one of the best bowling performances in recent times. It is sad that WICB treats its players like this. Really sad!

  • coconutvendor on May 28, 2012, 10:53 GMT

    The WICB is has to take the blame here. As Michael Holding says, even if Jerome Taylor was somewhat delinquent, their job is to manage their players. WI cannot afford to waste young talents like Taylor, especially after investing so much in him. Apart from one early injury, I recall that he was very fit, turning out far more consistently than Fidel Edwards. WI needs to develop a stable of fast bowlers - they are, by nature, injury-prone. For those who doubt his ability, this is a bowler who could move the ball both ways at faster than 90mph. He averages 26 in ODIs! He destroyed england in 2009! So what if he was yet to reach his best? Surely he was a s good as Anderson or Broad 4 years ago! He could still be the best in the world. He simply needs good management...what a crying shame that our tiny population can produce such talent (the hard part) but not the people to look after the talent (the easy part). WICB - you cause us so much disappointment!

  • on May 28, 2012, 10:24 GMT

    Well.. Idk what the WICB is upto here. They should know how to manage their players. They just can't throw their best players in the wilderness like that! WI have it in them to become world beaters if they field their best team. Look at the players who are missing out now. The likes of gayle, sarwan, dwayne bravo, dwayne smith, j.taylor, edwards,pollard,narine,russell are all quality players. Add to them sammy, shivnarine, samuels, darren bravo, kirk edwards, rampaul, roach,a.barath, ramdin & u hv a helluva good squad to pick from. Why? Why are you doing this WICB? Pls don't spoil the WI Cricket.

  • dickiebrewsters on May 28, 2012, 10:12 GMT

    I am sorry, but Taylor is not the answer. Yes, he had 1 remarkable performace & rightly should live off that for as long as he wants. But, he is injury prone & would not (usually) be able to come back strong in the 2nd innings & turn around a game, this is where West Indies struggle with the mental & physical demands of Test Cricket, time & again they are around equal at the halfway stage. History shows it is extremely unlikely you would get 2 back to back tests out of taylor or even 2 consecutive innings. The only way you could pick someone like Taylor would be as part of a 5 man attack rather than 4 as the current test lines ups prefer.

  • PACERONE on May 28, 2012, 9:54 GMT

    It seems like the WICB has a witch doctor mentality.There is only one player that gets injured and is allowed to play without any fuss and he is the one that seems never to be ready to play and that is Barath.He did not have to play a full season and is always showing signs that he is not fit.Sarwan,Bravo,Gayle and Taylor all had injuries that excluded them from the team and they were not fit to play for WICB,but fit to play for other teams.This St.Hilaire guy has got to go.He needs his head examined.The selection committee needs to be changed they have not picked a balanced side for a long time.

  • Baundele on May 28, 2012, 9:42 GMT

    This WICB is hilarious. If you get injured somehow and you are in their bad book, no matter if you are a proven performer or not, you are banished from national selection for 18 months or more.

  • Tigg on May 28, 2012, 9:01 GMT

    I don't see a problem with asking a player who gets repeatedly injured to play a full season of cricket to check their strength.

  • MrPontingToYou on May 28, 2012, 8:56 GMT

    Taylor is overrated, his first class stats appear good, but are misleading as they have been achieved generally against mediocre WI batsmen. When confronted by international class batsmen at test level his figures are put in perspective, but for one really outstanding perfomance against England on a VERY helpful Sabina (home) pitch.

  • on May 28, 2012, 6:42 GMT

    You can blame IPL, the player's commitments, WICB, WIPA, solar eclipse, Jesus - whatever you want. Here's the fact: at least six players: Gayle, Sarwan, Taylor, Russell, Narine, Dwayne Bravo - are better than the ones currently donning international colors for West Indies. I'm not even mentioning Pollard simply because he's more committed to freelancing as a T20 specialist than to play for West Indies. No person or entity with the pride and betterment of Caribbean cricket in their heart would let anything like this happen.

  • kobler on May 28, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    I can see the cause of most of the problem of WI cricket, WICB. I say 80 Percent WICB 15 % players 5 % IPL

  • yoongguns on May 28, 2012, 5:33 GMT

    Please WICB don't waste this talent..we all wan to see him back in WI team as he is live wire of the game..totally unfortunate for the WI cricket....

  • joebee on May 28, 2012, 5:27 GMT

    Where has Jerome Taylor been hiding !

    Indeed the WICB should be blamed for teh way in which the current Team in England is faring.

    The way Sunil Narine has bowled at the IPL should really set the WICB on fire. It's sad the the WICB is continually ignoring the likes of Chris Gayle, Dwane Bravo , Kieron Pollard and several promising West Indian Cricketers.

    It is high time that stalwarts like Sir Garfied Sobers, Rohan Kanhai, Conrad Hunte , Joe Solomon , Lance Gibbs, Vivian Richards and several other West Indian cricketers of the 1970's and 1980's got together and reform the WICB and reinvent the Windies winning ways.

    Actually the Windies are no 1 in the world if only the team is selected on pure merit ! They will excel in all 3 formats of the game

    Thanks for listen to us .

    Joe Britto

  • anver777 on May 28, 2012, 5:00 GMT

    What WI currently missing is a good attacking fast bowler to partner Roach, so why not WI selectors bring Jerome back !!!!!

  • Ansido on May 28, 2012, 4:48 GMT

    Who is the WICB, and do they care? Why are the best players not playing? Why was Gayle not flown in for this test? Why is Taylor's story different than Hilaire's? Mr. Gibson has done a fine job with the bowlers and discipline. Retain him, but hire a head coach - Mr. Gibson is content to play second fiddle - unacceptable. You play to win. Even KP opined, and rightly too, that the public pays to watch entertainers, [not trundlers.] This is robbery! Memo to Hilaire, we want to see the stars: not team. Cricket a team sport, yes, but it is the individual player in the individual moment. Your best team forward. Gayle and Narine - no argument. Pollard bats, fields and bowls with vigour: who labelled him a "one day player." Taylor -- hat trick against Australia - not playing? Russell? What is wrong WICB? the value of your stock (players/results) depends on demand. If this does not change, you will have 2 or 1 test instead of 3. Who/Where are the stockholders ?

  • on May 28, 2012, 4:42 GMT

    I believe it is time for the leaders of the West Indian islands to get involved and use their powers to bring pressure to bear on the WICBC to quit the messing around with W I cricket so that there can be the players who can play competitive cricket can play. Ernest Hiliareous needs to go, likewise Gibson and Sammy. This trio is disaster for WI cricket. As long as they are in the slot they are, WI cricket will be going no where.

  • on May 28, 2012, 4:04 GMT

    Asking Jerome Taylor to play a full season of regional cricket to prove his fitness was unreasonable.We have seen several players coming off serious inguries and returned to the senior team without such draconian requirement.Such unjustified demand on a player of Jerome's status or any player is incomprehensible.

  • KeepingitReal on May 28, 2012, 3:49 GMT

    Taylor never disputed the the specific accusation, which is his commitment to the rehablitation program to which he was assigned. No one questioned his commitment to cricket nor to his development. He was accused specifically of not abiding by the stipulated program.

  • KeepingitReal on May 28, 2012, 2:59 GMT

    @nafzak and kantipur, do you recall that the four players whose names you listed were in the WI team that was beaten in less than 3 days in the previous WI tour to England (2009)? At any rate, I don't see why WI should take the risk of including a bowler who has not played cricket for so long ahead of a long list of performers who are demonstrating their credentials. I would understand it if his bowling average was below 25, but this is a guy who averages 35.64 in tests! I don't even know why Hilaire bothered to discuss this issue.

  • Rally_Windies on May 28, 2012, 2:40 GMT

    saadirfan

    please pay closer attention to WI cricket...

    Giibson asked Chanderpaul to retire and dropped him from the team.. that already happened ....

    Sammy was not made captain by jest..... Gayle, Sarawan, Chanderpaul and Taylor were all dropped to make Sammy captain ... Dwayne Bravo was injured and Rhamdin dropped as well...

    Rhamdin was going through his 1st purple patch of his carreer,,, and had to do it at 1st class level.. Gayle& Sarwan were averaging 50+ for two years consecutively. Chanders was down a bit, but still averaging over 40.. Taylor was averaging 25 with the ball for the year, and over 20 with the bat in that same year...

    WI had seemed to turn a corner.. and Gibson decided to kick them back down ....

  • Rally_Windies on May 28, 2012, 2:33 GMT

    Sammy is finally ownning his place in the team...

    I have alway been a beleiver that people have been purposely drooped to create a leadership crisis to MAKE Sammy the captain ...

    Taylor had just turned the corner as a bowler... and had just scored a test 100 and got dropped for his solid perfomances..

    Taylor with his imporved batting, (much better than Sammy) would have easily been in contention for captaincy.... as would have been, chanderpaul, Gayle, Sawaran, and Rhamdin ...

    Rhamdin HAD much better performances than Baugh in every aspect of the game and in all forms of the game... when Rhamdin was in an EXTREME purple patch with the bat.... he got axed.... (weird most teams WANT to play people when the are having purple patches...the WICB drops you if you have a purple patch)

  • on May 28, 2012, 1:57 GMT

    It is sad that all the seniors players who have been discarded , have something to say about the negative ways they have been teated by the W.I.C.B,hence their non - selection. For any rational and well thinking person, its difficult not to see the problems lie with Hilare and with not so many players. Can all five senior players be wrong? Has Hilare ever played any form of competitive cricket? Its time for him to go! Its time for him to be relieved of his role . If nobody will do it, then its time for the cricket fans of the Caribbean to do something about it. Its time to show our outrage - enough is enough! Its time to boycott cricket matches in the Caribbean, beginning with the New Zealand tour this summer, if this is the same pool of players who are going to form the nucleus of the team.

  • on May 28, 2012, 1:24 GMT

    Can someone explain why he was not selected for Jamaica in recent times. Clearly if his problem is with the WICB and not Jamaica then he should be in the Jamaican team.

  • on May 28, 2012, 0:26 GMT

    Taylor was "disgruntled" because he thought the demands set out by the WICB were unfair & maybe he was singled out, for what reason I really cannot say, as a result he did not comply with the various rehab programmes. He said that he didn't know where Hilaire was getting his info., but Taylor never denied what Hilaire said. And make no mistake ,this IPL stuff has hurt WI cricket immeasurably. As for HOLDING'S comments, I choose to stay quiet since they wouldn't publish what I have to say.

  • on May 27, 2012, 23:43 GMT

    This one is interesting...

  • nafzak on May 27, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    Sad indeed. Gayle, Sarwan, Chanders, Taylor...surely, all these players cannot be wrong and Hilaire, Hunte and Gibson right. I feel bad for the seniors and West Indies cricket. We now for sure know that the problem was not the WIPA, but 100% arrogance by the WICB. Today, we see that as Chanders fall, the whole team falls with him. Bet when they lose tomorrow, Gibson will find reason to blame Chanders, never mind the man hardly eve fails.

  • rza89 on May 27, 2012, 23:30 GMT

    yeah ok, but did u play the ipl?

  • kantipur on May 27, 2012, 23:14 GMT

    Chris Gayle, Ramnaresh Sarwan and Jerome Taylor. Everybody is unhappy with WICB. It can't be coincidence. WICB must change the way it operates and try to play best possible eleven whenever possible.

  • on May 27, 2012, 23:08 GMT

    It seems as though the hierarchy of the WICB is on a power trip to the detriment of W.I. cricket. I tend to agree with Mr. Holding's comments that the WICB need to treat players as humans first rather than commodities. How can the WICB executive demand respect from cricketers when they treat those same men with utter disrespect and expect that they not speak up for themselves.

    Now the WICB has created a hole in the development of W.I. cricket by treating its premier players like crap! How is it that Taylor, Gayle, Sarwan, Chanderpaul have all been treated disdainfully at some point or another and the WICB represents that it is the players that are the problem?

    SHAME!!!

  • on May 27, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    I am wondering if the Board had the courtesy of responding to Jerome's letter... This Board is an embarrassment... Jerome you are a professional, the T20 world awaits you! Jamaican cricketing authorities wise up, its time for Jamaica to shine!

  • cracker2012 on May 27, 2012, 22:27 GMT

    Good to know that the WI are currently doing well in England. They are on track to loosing the series 3 nil. The sad part is that no one is doing anything about it - and by anything I mean get rid of these WICB members.

  • saadirfan on May 27, 2012, 22:15 GMT

    what is with the wicb why do they alienate every good player gayle sarwan i wont be surprised if somehow chanderpaul is dropped

  • on May 27, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    this is what happens when businessmen run cricket and not cricket minded people...!!

  • JG2704 on May 27, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    Probably 2 sides to this story. Has Taylor been performing consistently in West Indies domestically since he started playing again? Maybe he has just slipped down the pecking order? If others have come in and done the business then maybe he has to either perform better domestically or wait for injuries/loss of form from current players

  • nzcricket174 on May 27, 2012, 21:43 GMT

    In regards to that famous win in 09 against England, look at the main names involved - Gayle, Sarwan, Taylor. Neither of these three are around anymore and look what has happened. I remember when the West Indies came to New Zealand and out of nowhere Jerome Taylor bashed a hundred. It was amazing hitting which is why he became quite big.

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  • nzcricket174 on May 27, 2012, 21:43 GMT

    In regards to that famous win in 09 against England, look at the main names involved - Gayle, Sarwan, Taylor. Neither of these three are around anymore and look what has happened. I remember when the West Indies came to New Zealand and out of nowhere Jerome Taylor bashed a hundred. It was amazing hitting which is why he became quite big.

  • JG2704 on May 27, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    Probably 2 sides to this story. Has Taylor been performing consistently in West Indies domestically since he started playing again? Maybe he has just slipped down the pecking order? If others have come in and done the business then maybe he has to either perform better domestically or wait for injuries/loss of form from current players

  • on May 27, 2012, 21:55 GMT

    this is what happens when businessmen run cricket and not cricket minded people...!!

  • saadirfan on May 27, 2012, 22:15 GMT

    what is with the wicb why do they alienate every good player gayle sarwan i wont be surprised if somehow chanderpaul is dropped

  • cracker2012 on May 27, 2012, 22:27 GMT

    Good to know that the WI are currently doing well in England. They are on track to loosing the series 3 nil. The sad part is that no one is doing anything about it - and by anything I mean get rid of these WICB members.

  • on May 27, 2012, 23:05 GMT

    I am wondering if the Board had the courtesy of responding to Jerome's letter... This Board is an embarrassment... Jerome you are a professional, the T20 world awaits you! Jamaican cricketing authorities wise up, its time for Jamaica to shine!

  • on May 27, 2012, 23:08 GMT

    It seems as though the hierarchy of the WICB is on a power trip to the detriment of W.I. cricket. I tend to agree with Mr. Holding's comments that the WICB need to treat players as humans first rather than commodities. How can the WICB executive demand respect from cricketers when they treat those same men with utter disrespect and expect that they not speak up for themselves.

    Now the WICB has created a hole in the development of W.I. cricket by treating its premier players like crap! How is it that Taylor, Gayle, Sarwan, Chanderpaul have all been treated disdainfully at some point or another and the WICB represents that it is the players that are the problem?

    SHAME!!!

  • kantipur on May 27, 2012, 23:14 GMT

    Chris Gayle, Ramnaresh Sarwan and Jerome Taylor. Everybody is unhappy with WICB. It can't be coincidence. WICB must change the way it operates and try to play best possible eleven whenever possible.

  • rza89 on May 27, 2012, 23:30 GMT

    yeah ok, but did u play the ipl?

  • nafzak on May 27, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    Sad indeed. Gayle, Sarwan, Chanders, Taylor...surely, all these players cannot be wrong and Hilaire, Hunte and Gibson right. I feel bad for the seniors and West Indies cricket. We now for sure know that the problem was not the WIPA, but 100% arrogance by the WICB. Today, we see that as Chanders fall, the whole team falls with him. Bet when they lose tomorrow, Gibson will find reason to blame Chanders, never mind the man hardly eve fails.