England's Pietersen dilemma

No problem having a beer with KP - Broad

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October 10, 2012

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Kevin Pietersen chats with Irfan Pathan and Andre Russell, Johannesburg, October 10, 2012
Kevin Pietersen will chat with his England team-mates as well as his IPL ones over the next few weeks © AFP
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Stuart Broad has insisted that Kevin Pietersen will be welcomed back to the England dressing room whenever the management decide the time is right for the batsman's return.

Pietersen is currently preparing for the Champions League T20 with Delhi Daredevils in South Africa. He is due to fly back to the UK for a round of meetings with senior England players as part of his 'reintegration' process that began when he signed a four-month contract last week.

Broad said he had not spoken to Pietersen since the Headingley Test against South Africa, where the situation escalated following his post-match press conference and a few days later Pietersen was omitted for the final Test at Lord's. If the next few weeks go smoothly, he is expected to return for the tour of India, after having been left out of the original squad.

"I'd have no problems playing with him or having a beer with him. It's not an issue," Broad told reporters in London. "Once the England management has decided when he's available to return, he'll be welcomed back into the changing room.

"We know he's a great cricketer, he's won a lot of trophies and has been a really good team-mate for England, certainly ever since I've been playing for them. We know that when KP's focused on playing for England and he's happy, he's a really dangerous player."

Broad was also caught up in the controversy, when it involved the parody Twitter account that Pietersen took offence to under the belief that some of the England players were involved. Broad is friends with the person who admitted being behind it, Richard Bailey, but issued a statement denying any involvement in the account.

"The team have no issues with KP coming back if the management decide he's ready to," Broad said. "It's in their hands at the moment. There are some meetings going on behind closed doors and we're waiting to see the outcome of those.

"But from the team's perspective his integration will be easy. Ultimately we're playing cricket and we want guys who will score runs and take catches to help England win. Whatever's happened has happened. We pride ourselves on being a strong dressing room and I'm sure that if he came back for India or New Zealand, or whenever it is, that things will be fine within the team."

Although Pietersen made himself available for all England cricket via a YouTube video the day before he was dropped - reversing his retirement from limited-overs cricket from earlier in the year - he followed the World Twenty20 from a TV studio rather than the dug-out as England were eliminated in the Super Eights stage.

One of the major problems for England during the tournament was not being given a solid start in the Powerplays. In their first three matches, against Afghanistan, India and West Indies, they lost at least one wicket in the first over, and for the final Super Eights match against Sri Lanka, they juggled the batting order by omitting Craig Kieswetter.

"It's hard to tell if the results would had been different had he been there," Broad said. "Obviously he's a fantastic Twenty20 cricketer who did wonders for us when we won the World Twenty20 in 2010.

"In June, when I found out he'd retired from the white-ball format, as captain I was hugely disappointed because I thought he'd be an integral part of our World Cup defence.

"It would be hard for me to say we didn't miss someone of his experience at the top of the order so I was disappointed when he did pull out. But the situation went towards the management side of things and it turned out he couldn't be there."

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Posted by Rogerunionjack on (October 13, 2012, 8:29 GMT)

JG2704 is right, this shouldn't be turned into an Eng vs India debate on this thread, so I'll refrain from any comments about the upcoming series. I just hope - but am not optimistic - that Broad & co. are able to integrate KP back into the fold. It's necessary to look forward, not back. We have two back to back Ashes series coming up later. As for the India series, may the best team win.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 12, 2012, 21:18 GMT)

As is so often the case with England threads which are discussing a different matter we end up having an India/England debate. For what it's worth - as an England fan and I hate to say this - I lean towards India. I feel that England have been awful in tests in the SC/SC conditions and also feel we will continue to make poor team selections which will make a hard task even more difficult. But if I was an Indian fan I wouldn't be cock a hoop either. Sure their home has been a fortress over the years , however are wins over WI and NZ a benchmark to prove than they are still invincible at home?

Posted by JG2704 on (October 12, 2012, 21:18 GMT)

@Cric_Hawk on (October 11 2012, 21:07 PM GMT) 1 - Fact is that KP and Bell ARE England players 2 - England fans could say that Eng would have won both matches if SL were without Jaya and Herath 3 - KP and Bell were averaging 11.16 and 8.5 in UAE where we lost 3-0 so while you can say/intimate it was a good job we had Bell and KP in the SL series having 2 batsmen who were averaging 20 between them in the UAE series was not so good. 2 more points 1 - Bell scored 18 so did not influence the final test at all . 2 - Which Irish players are England so dependent on in test cricket? We have ONE in the squad who some - inc myself - feel is an undeserved selection

Posted by Cric_Hawk on (October 12, 2012, 21:03 GMT)

@ Rogerunionjack I bet you, if India looses even 1 test match against Eng on home turf I will stop watching cricket...If you see Eng batsmen struggle against spin on a bit dry n mediocre spin, I believe without KP-Bell they cannot survive here... I'm confident of my team doing well but not over-confident like u guys thinking Eng making it 4-0 for India.Without KP your team struggled against SF and you are expecting to perform good in Ind Lol!!! While Eng hv good bowling unit, Ind hs strong batting line up... Its only matter of Ind batsmen not making any mistake, jus think if Dravid-VVS were playing you guys could hv cried all day...Ind play spin very well and Eng batsmen except KP play pathetic before spin...Swann is not Warne and hs been trashed evry time he hs come ovr here... Monty is anyways our guy...Without swing, evn Akhtar with 95 mph wz thrashed out of the park...Jus put web of spinners and Eng team will crumble. Recent records jus show that Eng team is nothing without KP...

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (October 12, 2012, 7:56 GMT)

To all my Indian friends - yes, your batting is strong, and yes you have home advantage. But unfortunately, your bowling WILL let you down. Please don't compare your recent ODI & T20 results with test cricket. We have Cook, Trott, Bell, Prior & co. who are more than capable. Even if your captain is so desperate that he has reportedly given instructions to prepare turners, we also have Swann, Monty and now KP. Plus our speedsters are a lot betetr. It isn't going to be a cake walk for India as you guys keep forecasting. We may not thrash you by an innings in every match, you guys will put up a fight, but at the end of it all it will once again be 4-0. All the best.

Posted by cricprasu on (October 12, 2012, 7:23 GMT)

@Cric_Hawk: well said bro..thats exactly correct...

Posted by phoenixsteve on (October 12, 2012, 2:57 GMT)

@Pacelikefire_Samrat .... You might be right and England don't have that great a talent comimg through? In test cricket though they are good and don't rely on hype. India are a poor team and will not have it their own way even on their own 'flat track bully' pitches. Tendulkar perversely is the Indian Achiles heel - he's past it and personal ambitions see him carrying on at the expense of his second rate team! India are going to be beaten unless they can invent a decent bowling attack and figure out how to clone Kohli six or seven times....... COME ON ENGLAND!!! R.I.P. India........

Posted by Cric_Hawk on (October 12, 2012, 1:40 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip Ok Lets check record of ur "GOOD' english players against Ind... Ian Bell - Test Bat Avg 41.61 & Cook - Test Bat Avg 46.05 Record of Ind players against Eng...Sachin - Test Bat Avg 56.34 & Gambhir - Test Bat Avg 46.30 Now, about ur Broad v Ind stats, probably he was the same guy who wz thrashed out of the park 6 times by yuvi...Lol, only Eng can retain him bcz thts wat they got... You cannot replace the whole team by Irish/SF players there has to b some identify of English team... Guess, for you guys its club team and not national team, just see who is performing good in other countries and make them play from your side...

Posted by Meety on (October 12, 2012, 1:27 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip on (October 11 2012, 21:34 PM GMT) - I would say Kohli is the form batsmen in world cricket, & I think he is almost good enough to carry India's batting line up against England. I think that SRT in India, will be effective, I think Dhoni as a Keeper & as a batsmen in India will cause England problems. I think Pujarra is also very good. I also think that IF fit Zaheer is a solid chance of being the leading wicket taker amongst pace bowlers on EITHER side. IMO - England will do a hell of better in India than India in England, but it should be an Indian series win, not a whitewash, but like in UAE where England had solid chances of winning deep into the match. @JG2704 on (October 11 2012, 11:27 AM GMT) - TBH, I couldn't be stuffed reading the article, just the comments, - I am SO over the whole KP saga! I do think the Collier remarks were inflammatory though!

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 21:45 GMT)

Stuey almost had me convinced there for a moment

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (October 11, 2012, 21:34 GMT)

@Cric_Hawk. rubbish. Check record of Cook, Bell, Anderson, Swann, Bresnan, and man of the series Stuart Broad v India, and then see if you still think England "hardly have any good English player...". It is India, not England who hardly have any good player. Tell me @cric_Hawk who exactly do India have that you would class as "good player"? Just because someone play for India - this does not make them world class. Considering this is an article merely regarding "a drink" some people are remarkably paranoid....

Posted by Cric_Hawk on (October 11, 2012, 21:07 GMT)

@A_Vacant_Slip Guess someone forgot what happened in Srilanka...Lol, with dry pitch and without KP-Bell, Eng batsmen were dancing on the wicket in front of mediocre spin...Hahaha... That pitch was nothing to wat MSD would offer once Eng come to India...The team which stands on the performance of Irish/SF players should not tom tom about themselves as they hardly have any good English players...

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (October 11, 2012, 12:09 GMT)

@Pacelikefire_Samrat on (October 11 2012, 07:42 AM GMT) You are right - England did win 8 insignificant match against opposition ranked higher than England. That was India BTW that England handsomely whitewashed. Your memory is short. If anyone here need to grow up surely it is you. Dude. When you get a clue - come back and we will talk.

Posted by WheresTheEmpire on (October 11, 2012, 12:04 GMT)

I can fully understand and sympathise with England supporters' annoyance with this ongoing saga, but for many others it is an utterly compelling real-life mixture of drama, irony and farce. I am hooked, as a lot of cricket fans seem to be. This is going to run and run and run. Possible future episodes may include: "The Reintegration aka Problem? What Problem?)", "He's Scored A Century. Yes, He Is the Messiah", "Falling Back Into Bad Habits" and will there be a happy ending or will it all end in "The Ultimate Destruction" and tears. Any other suggestions for future episodes?

Posted by cricprasu on (October 11, 2012, 11:44 GMT)

its better to have with yuvraj after your superb bowilng in t20 2007, luckily u didnt got smacked in that way by yuvraj. u know very well that without KP u cant even win a single match with ur team(t20) in india and now putting ice that u have so much respect on him..common broad( u r a captain of eng team) and not a politician...LOL

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2012, 11:27 GMT)

Plenty of hissyfits as expected.Apart from no comment what else was Broad supposed to say?If he says he wouldn't go anywhere near him he'd get accused of being unwelcoming/unfriendly and he says he'd have a beer with him and everyone says it's because England failed in the WC - ridiculous.As it is no one knows exactly who said what to who in the dressing room so how come there are so many guilty verdicts on players like Broad/Jimmy/Swann?How do we know that other players may - if opinions canvassed - have been the ones who did not want KP back? KP's texts would have contained derogatory content otherwise why did he not come forward earlier (at the time) to clear it all up) and why would he be apologising if there's nothing to apologise for.Is there anything to confirm that Broad wanted KP out to begin with? In fact if the bottom part of the article is to be believed it is the exact opposite and Broad always wanted him in the T20 side but he had no choice in the matter so why blame SB?

Posted by Lovedegame on (October 11, 2012, 11:26 GMT)

I wonder what Stu would have said had they defended the world Cup

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

@RogerUnionJack : I just love your optimism, hopeless yes.. but still laughably admirable. yes, we did badly in your country.. but remember we had injury issues from Day 1 which only worsened as the tour progressed.... We dare you to bring your best XI and see who beats the crap out of who..... And as for calling Sachin a Museum Batsmen... that Museum is called Hall of Fame... and I doubt if after the 70s too many English Batsmen got into that Museum.. Take out SA Players from England and our weakest State Side will beat you Six Ways of Sunday...

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2012, 11:09 GMT)

@Ragavan Natarajan on (October 10 2012, 17:44 PM GMT) If it was purely a form/ results business KP along with several other batsmen would have been banished to oblivion after their UAE tour. He is an England player who has more insight and reason to speak for the side than ANY poster on this site.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2012, 11:09 GMT)

@Pacelikefire_Samrat on (October 11 2012, 07:42 AM GMT) I'm sure PS will speak for himself but if you were a regular on here you would know that this guy has been in full support of KP returning.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 11, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

@Laly Gill on (October 10 2012, 17:25 PM GMT) No he's not - he's just being asked his opinion as an England player which is fair enough

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (October 11, 2012, 10:31 GMT)

@ Pacelikefire_Samrat on (October 11 2012, 07:42 AM GMT) We DID win against an opposition ranked just above Ireland, we thrashed them 4-0 in tests last year, a team with club bowlers and museum batsman. I believe the country starts with I and ends in A, and it's not Indonesia. An encore is coming up soon on your turf this time.

Posted by iamafreak on (October 11, 2012, 9:11 GMT)

Of course Broad will have beer with KP. After being thrashed in T20 WC what choice do you have.

Posted by Newlandsfaithful on (October 11, 2012, 8:56 GMT)

I'd have a beer with KP. I'd have a beer with Broad, or any of the English players. I'd have a beer with any of the Saffers on that tour.We could banter about stuff and off thefield, no problem - especially Andy Flower and Gary Kirsten. Wouldn't have a beer with wormtongue Collier though.

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 8:26 GMT)

Welcome to politics, Stu. Sometimes you have to lie.

Posted by thebeardedblunder on (October 11, 2012, 8:25 GMT)

Oh my God.....when is this soap opera going to end? I've had enough! Do you know what? If half the England dressing room had had their heads banged together and been given a jolly good clip around the ear months ago, we could of resumed normal service months ages ago and we wouldn't of had to hear about all this utter nonsense! This wouldn't of happened in my day I can tell you! Bring back Close, Trueman and Willey etc etc! Real men! Anyway, i'm off to watch some old black and white videos of yesteryear, before I blow a gasket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 7:51 GMT)

KP is one of my favourites. I don't understand why such a brilliant player of English team has been dropped. I can recollect on several occassions, he has saved matches for Eng. However, Welcome back KP!!. My warmest greetings to you KP!!. well done Stuart, you indeed did a good job to bring back KP into your team. Chris Dharmaratne

Posted by Pacelikefire_Samrat on (October 11, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

@phoenixsteve:You think england has so much talent coming through that they dont need KP?In case u missed it,ur skipper is ready to share a beer and welcome back K.P into the fold.That shows how talented ur side is.Please dont talk time and again abt Sachin still playing.Why dont we talk abt your own hapless side?Werent Stewart,Gooch,Gatting playing till they were almost 40?Thats the prob with u brits,u win an insignificant match against an opposition ranked the lowest and u think ur world beaters.Once the tour of India is finished,we are gonna hear the familiar whining about underprepared pitches etc.Grow up dude.

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 6:52 GMT)

Id love to have several beers with KP. I think hes awesome!

Posted by edgie on (October 11, 2012, 6:41 GMT)

Really Stuart, after all that KP has said about you, u want to have a beer with him?

Posted by Munkeymomo on (October 11, 2012, 6:28 GMT)

@Sachin: It will be interesting, Swann did brilliantly last time he played in India, causing all sorts of trouble for the Indian batsman. Doubt he will be as effective this time though. The next genuine (and English) batsmen are Compton and Root, they are both in the squad so we should see one play, time will tell if they can trouble India (Compton a better bet, he can play out spin and score off the quicks, which shouldn't be very effective).

Posted by bhrangi on (October 11, 2012, 5:30 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy : sachin_vvsfan mentioned in INDIA, ENG will struggle without KP. Do u remember recent 5-0 ODI whitewash that is what sachin_vvsfan mentioning.,., ENG never won test series in IND., may be before i was born hahaha., without KP then be sure abt ur whitewash in coming series.,.

Posted by Percy_Fender on (October 11, 2012, 4:36 GMT)

It is laughable to think that just sharing a beer with KP is going to change very much. Kevin is a great player internationally and has a very high demand level in all the T20 franchises he plays for. There are very few England players who make his kind of money. So the envy is bound to be there in the Broads and Swanns of this world. That apart, the fact that Kevin's South African connection has been raised often and that not too sensiblly will have caused the insecurity in him which I believe is the reason for his anger against the ECB and the rest of the team. Merely because he is a match-winner is the reason that Broad and others are on overdrive to get him back. Even if it means a barfight after the beers.

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 4:35 GMT)

Shameless Stuart Broad. Only now he feels the missing of KP from this average English side.

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 4:29 GMT)

Who on earth does Stuart think he is. Just like his old man. Just sheer arrogance. He needs to learn quickly to mind his own business and become aware of his limitations. KP is an awkward customer but he is a super batsman if that is the only attribute he has. Stuart was no way ready to captain England T20. Results speak for itself. He is immature and inexperienced.

Posted by mfmfaiq on (October 11, 2012, 4:29 GMT)

English Cricket Looks Serious Joke Now a Days... Will See What's Up Next... KP Surely Should Played in World T20!!! Pity England Hammered in this wc though

Posted by phoenixsteve on (October 11, 2012, 4:08 GMT)

@Sachin_VVSFan.... You're views are as outdated as the players your name represents! If you agree with any of RanyOz's views you'd better get ready for the men in white coats! England has so much talent coming through and that's why they have even contemplated giving India a cricket lesson without KP? We'll soon see of course and hopefully you'll be as eloquant after an Indian defeat? India might do well in the one day games (although they didn't do that well recently) but in test matches they're goind down! The big question you should be asking is WHY hasn't Tendulkar gone the way of VVS, Dravid, Gnaguly, etc.... India are ripe for thrashing and England are the side to do it! Remember .... you read it here first! Good luck to both teams; but really.... COME ON ENGLAND!!!

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 3:48 GMT)

For the good of cricket, KP should play for England. Broad is a silly guy though.

Posted by   on (October 11, 2012, 3:47 GMT)

This kind of article is a whole lot of nothing. Of course, Broad is going to say all the right things as he is captain of the T20 side. What international captain is going to go public and say that they don't want a contracted player in the side after the board has welcomed the player back? Lets hear what Swann has to say about having KP back. He isn't afraid to speak his mind.

Posted by Cric_Hawk on (October 11, 2012, 2:38 GMT)

@RednWhiteArmy ... Guess someone forgot what happened in Srilanka...Lol, with dry pitch and without KP-Bell, Eng batsmen were dancing on the wicket in front of mediocre spin...Hahaha... That pitch was nothing to wat MSD would offer once Eng come to India...The team which stands on the performance of Irish, SF players should not tom tom about themselves as they hardly have any genuine good English players...

Posted by Meety on (October 11, 2012, 1:52 GMT)

For a very BRIEF moment, I thought there would be a KP-free day, silly me!

Posted by phoenixsteve on (October 10, 2012, 23:51 GMT)

It's a huge relief for me and must be for KP too that this stupid squabble seems to have been overcome. KP is the one England player that the India fans want to see and let's hope he's at his destructive best? Personally I ma hopeful that England will have a successful tour in India and think that the Indians are rather weak and ready for scalping! As ever the key will be the batters scoring good runs as the bowlers seem quite consistent and dependable. COME ON ENGLAND!!!

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (October 10, 2012, 23:33 GMT)

@sachin vvs fan do you remember who actually whitewashed who? haha

Posted by PanGlupek on (October 10, 2012, 21:40 GMT)

Haha, players sometimes make thier best cases for being picked when they're not picked, eh?!

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (October 10, 2012, 21:03 GMT)

I almost see a real England team taking the field again. Without quite breathing a very large sigh of relief yet, this is a step towards it.

Posted by usernames on (October 10, 2012, 18:21 GMT)

Obviously you would; if there's a decent player in the whole team right now, that's KP.

Posted by whatawicket on (October 10, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

well if england did not bring up the subject and i take it broad was asked about it. i take it its cricinfo thats done the asking. GD is the one whos been doing all the commenting. though i see its cricinfo staff whoever that may be. rajiv if you are so fed up,why read it and post a reply

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (October 10, 2012, 18:15 GMT)

I mean no disrespect to England. But they certainly cant do better with out him in India. He was the reason Eng did not get whitewashed( in india) last time they visited. It will be interesting to see how the bells, cooks, bairstows and most importantly Swann fare in india. I have respect for Trott and KP(as batsman) but who is the next genuine(and English) batsman who can trouble us? Boy got to agree with RandyOz. Wafer thin talent and empty cup board LOL :P

Posted by   on (October 10, 2012, 17:44 GMT)

"Stuart Broad has insisted that Kevin Pietersen will be welcomed back to the England dressing room" - lol. Who's he to welcome whom?!

Should the recent result be anything different Broad wouldn't have acted so humble.

Posted by   on (October 10, 2012, 17:25 GMT)

lol broad is acting like he owns the team or somethin that kp is welcome in the changing rooms fact is that england cannot survive without kp at the moment their test rankings and odis ranking will fall way below

Posted by proteasfan99 on (October 10, 2012, 16:58 GMT)

Broad is a good player and I like him as a player but as a captain I think England have to look elsewhere...he seems like a player that could divide the dressing room himself and the fact that he is doing it at a young age is worring. He si nowhere in the league of Strauss, Cook, Vaughn, Hussain, Atherton and former English captains. He is better left a player than leader just like Pietersen showed by his own ascendence and fall as captain...

Posted by   on (October 10, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

I have to say this whole episode is a bit poor and the word "precious" does spring to mind. The Headingly Test finished in early August. That is nearly 8 weeks ago! KP said sorry after his emotional outburst, and the ECB have had a series of meetings. It has turned into a drama. Let's move on. It all looks a bit wet and sensitive from both parties. And now Collier is blaming South Africa? How stupid is that?!

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