Domestic committee outlines English Premier League March 29, 2008

Lord's and The Oval may host IPL exhibition games

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Two of England's leading international grounds, Lord's and The Oval, are considering offers to stage exhibition games involving teams from the Indian Premier League, according to a report in The Birmingham Post.

Although the venues for the initial games have already been allocated in India, there seems an increasing likelihood that other international venues will be also be used, as a way to promote the tournament around the world as much as provide world-class facilities. As it stands, however, the London venues will only host exhibition matches.

Paul Sheldon, the Surrey chief executive, declined to comment to The Times, while a spokesman for the MCC also refused to make a statement.

Meanwhile, the Domestic Structure Review Group, chaired by Glamorgan chairman Paul Russell, will go before the ECB on April 9 and is due to suggest a radical response to the IPL. The committee proposes two new Twenty20 competitions, the first of which will run in early summer along similar lines to the old Benson & Hedges Cup which ran for 30 years from 1972. It will feature Minor Counties, the universities and Ireland and Scotland.

The second tournament, according to today's Daily Telegraph, will be called the English Premier League, taking place at the height of summer and consisting of 21 teams in three groups of seven - with county sides supplemented by international players from India, Australia and South Africa. The idea falls in line with the suggestions made by ECB's chairman, Giles Clarke, that England should mirror some of the IPL's makeup: namely, that Twenty20 sides field three overseas players and four players under the age of 23.

"We wanted to see something radical come out of this committee," an insider told the Daily Telegraph, "but instead it is as if they have put all the same balls into the hat, shaken them around a bit and taken them out again.

"The idea of restoring the old Benson & Hedges Cup under a different name is just crazy. What this needed is some vision, a different pair of eyes. The DSRG should have gone out and sought the input of the players, the press, television. What about city teams, for instance, rather than counties? If we don't take this thing by the scruff of the neck, we will find that the game has been pinched off us by other operators."

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  • POSTED BY anku6 on | March 31, 2008, 8:53 GMT

    It will be great to see the IPL matches live in UK. ECB can not match upto the IPL. The only EPL we will ever come across will be the football variety. So lets enjoy the IPL matches.

  • POSTED BY redneck on | March 31, 2008, 1:29 GMT

    Please stop with this domestic Twenty20 madness! All it is doing is destroying teams like West Indies, Pakistan and New Zealand. International cricket whether it be Test or ODIs, is the pinnacle of the sport. This must never be forgotten.

  • POSTED BY abystander on | March 30, 2008, 17:27 GMT

    For the IPL, the main issues would be the players. With the busy international schedule, we will have to see on how many international cricketers will actually play on a regular basis in the IPL. If the players choose IPL over their international assignments, then the local boards will not be happy. BCCI could end up in a difficult situation here.

    This is not the case with ICL. Their players have already been thrown out by the different cricket boards and they only have to concentrate on the ICL. Hence, the ICL games have the regular set of players. Also, the ICL games have improved and have been of a good standard in the current session.

    Since the ICL is termed "rebel" it can always come up with its own rules and innovative ideas to make the game more exciting as it does not have to follow the ICC rules.

  • POSTED BY rjdea on | March 30, 2008, 15:38 GMT

    I find it hilarious that fans of English football and English rugby find no problem in the fact they have the most money in the game and use it to leech players from other countries that have better football players and rugby players to make their own domestic league important.

    "But we have the most money. That's how the market works," they say.

    Now, one of the colonies has more money and far more people there that care about cricket than in England, and suddenly the prospect of English professional players plying their trade in another country is a bad thing.

    The County Championship needs to be preserved? For what, the 34 people in attendance? Can we just all accept the fact that very few people in England actually like cricket outside of the Ashes? We're all adults here, surely we can all realize that.

  • POSTED BY ashwin_547 on | March 30, 2008, 15:28 GMT

    England and Wales should have their own 2020 Tournament of this scale and it should feature the Welsh, Irish, Scottish, Dutch and maybe Danish national sides, and City Teams instead of county teams to fill that gap when football isn't around, this way we can ensure that Cricket stays around, because during the Winter Rugby and football are the stuff, and Cricket should have an other major tournament during that small empty gap in the English Sporting calendar, that way cricket can control the summer.

  • POSTED BY Arsalan.I.Khan on | March 30, 2008, 13:46 GMT

    i think its a good idea...will promote T20 cricket even more then it was earlier expected...but i think only exibition matches should be staged there...

  • POSTED BY FactFinder on | March 30, 2008, 12:46 GMT

    These not radical. Englans are in past gloryy and still want to hold some power by staging these matches. England is toothless after losing the monopoly, lost the veto poert etc. I warn BCCI NOT to fall in the trap of staging an IPL match and sharing the revenues. This is idea is typical English the way East India company and to India and beacake Union Jack. BCCI watch out.

  • POSTED BY I.F.Butt on | March 30, 2008, 10:47 GMT

    Well, I think it is great if the IPL matches are going to be played in other int. venues. I'm sure that there are a lot of people who can't wait for the IPL to start, at least i'm really looking forward to it. I mean who would not want to see the great players play in one team. It is something new and great entertainment for the cricket lovers. It will be fun and it could be beneficial for the cricket players there self.

  • POSTED BY Muqs on | March 30, 2008, 7:29 GMT

    wow I was just thinking about ENglish premier league cricket, and now ECB is ready to launch their version as well. It will be realy great to see competition between IPL and EPL T20. In footbal EPL, spanish la liga, Italian serie a compete with each ohter, its going to be great for cricket. This is the transition or revelutionary period, cricket is changing once and for all. Now I think the time has come when ICC need to re-schedule Future tour program, 7 month for international cricket, 4 month for lucrative leagues, one month of complete break. Wow ECB u r realy becoming cool, so far u guess(ECB) acted like nerd but ur realy funky.Now its time for ICC to become international coolest cricket council by supporting cool leagues. "COOL is cricket, cricket is cool" this is what should be the punchline ICC can use to globalize cricket allover the world. THREE cheers ot ECB n BCCI for launching premier leagues.

  • POSTED BY Ashwin_S on | March 30, 2008, 2:27 GMT

    I dont really see how different this is from the EPL where players from pretty much all over the world come to play for English clubs , the BCCI is not saying you play here and not represent your country - players from brazil dont represent their local clubs to get into the national team . Obviously there are different leauges in different countries but this basically is like a local Indian leauge for T20 , just like the Ranji Trophy or Deodhar trophy for 4 day and Limited overs cricket. Thing is though i dont hear the BCCI not saying the ECB shouldnt set up their own leauge - as a player you would obviously prefer the money for your body can only perform so long , its quite natural they sign up , some of the BCCI's methods and its treatment of the ICL players are obviously not great but this helps players as much as it helps the BCCI , as for the BCCI putting it back in the game - now thats a different story - we can only hope.

  • POSTED BY anku6 on | March 31, 2008, 8:53 GMT

    It will be great to see the IPL matches live in UK. ECB can not match upto the IPL. The only EPL we will ever come across will be the football variety. So lets enjoy the IPL matches.

  • POSTED BY redneck on | March 31, 2008, 1:29 GMT

    Please stop with this domestic Twenty20 madness! All it is doing is destroying teams like West Indies, Pakistan and New Zealand. International cricket whether it be Test or ODIs, is the pinnacle of the sport. This must never be forgotten.

  • POSTED BY abystander on | March 30, 2008, 17:27 GMT

    For the IPL, the main issues would be the players. With the busy international schedule, we will have to see on how many international cricketers will actually play on a regular basis in the IPL. If the players choose IPL over their international assignments, then the local boards will not be happy. BCCI could end up in a difficult situation here.

    This is not the case with ICL. Their players have already been thrown out by the different cricket boards and they only have to concentrate on the ICL. Hence, the ICL games have the regular set of players. Also, the ICL games have improved and have been of a good standard in the current session.

    Since the ICL is termed "rebel" it can always come up with its own rules and innovative ideas to make the game more exciting as it does not have to follow the ICC rules.

  • POSTED BY rjdea on | March 30, 2008, 15:38 GMT

    I find it hilarious that fans of English football and English rugby find no problem in the fact they have the most money in the game and use it to leech players from other countries that have better football players and rugby players to make their own domestic league important.

    "But we have the most money. That's how the market works," they say.

    Now, one of the colonies has more money and far more people there that care about cricket than in England, and suddenly the prospect of English professional players plying their trade in another country is a bad thing.

    The County Championship needs to be preserved? For what, the 34 people in attendance? Can we just all accept the fact that very few people in England actually like cricket outside of the Ashes? We're all adults here, surely we can all realize that.

  • POSTED BY ashwin_547 on | March 30, 2008, 15:28 GMT

    England and Wales should have their own 2020 Tournament of this scale and it should feature the Welsh, Irish, Scottish, Dutch and maybe Danish national sides, and City Teams instead of county teams to fill that gap when football isn't around, this way we can ensure that Cricket stays around, because during the Winter Rugby and football are the stuff, and Cricket should have an other major tournament during that small empty gap in the English Sporting calendar, that way cricket can control the summer.

  • POSTED BY Arsalan.I.Khan on | March 30, 2008, 13:46 GMT

    i think its a good idea...will promote T20 cricket even more then it was earlier expected...but i think only exibition matches should be staged there...

  • POSTED BY FactFinder on | March 30, 2008, 12:46 GMT

    These not radical. Englans are in past gloryy and still want to hold some power by staging these matches. England is toothless after losing the monopoly, lost the veto poert etc. I warn BCCI NOT to fall in the trap of staging an IPL match and sharing the revenues. This is idea is typical English the way East India company and to India and beacake Union Jack. BCCI watch out.

  • POSTED BY I.F.Butt on | March 30, 2008, 10:47 GMT

    Well, I think it is great if the IPL matches are going to be played in other int. venues. I'm sure that there are a lot of people who can't wait for the IPL to start, at least i'm really looking forward to it. I mean who would not want to see the great players play in one team. It is something new and great entertainment for the cricket lovers. It will be fun and it could be beneficial for the cricket players there self.

  • POSTED BY Muqs on | March 30, 2008, 7:29 GMT

    wow I was just thinking about ENglish premier league cricket, and now ECB is ready to launch their version as well. It will be realy great to see competition between IPL and EPL T20. In footbal EPL, spanish la liga, Italian serie a compete with each ohter, its going to be great for cricket. This is the transition or revelutionary period, cricket is changing once and for all. Now I think the time has come when ICC need to re-schedule Future tour program, 7 month for international cricket, 4 month for lucrative leagues, one month of complete break. Wow ECB u r realy becoming cool, so far u guess(ECB) acted like nerd but ur realy funky.Now its time for ICC to become international coolest cricket council by supporting cool leagues. "COOL is cricket, cricket is cool" this is what should be the punchline ICC can use to globalize cricket allover the world. THREE cheers ot ECB n BCCI for launching premier leagues.

  • POSTED BY Ashwin_S on | March 30, 2008, 2:27 GMT

    I dont really see how different this is from the EPL where players from pretty much all over the world come to play for English clubs , the BCCI is not saying you play here and not represent your country - players from brazil dont represent their local clubs to get into the national team . Obviously there are different leauges in different countries but this basically is like a local Indian leauge for T20 , just like the Ranji Trophy or Deodhar trophy for 4 day and Limited overs cricket. Thing is though i dont hear the BCCI not saying the ECB shouldnt set up their own leauge - as a player you would obviously prefer the money for your body can only perform so long , its quite natural they sign up , some of the BCCI's methods and its treatment of the ICL players are obviously not great but this helps players as much as it helps the BCCI , as for the BCCI putting it back in the game - now thats a different story - we can only hope.

  • POSTED BY michaelfernando on | March 29, 2008, 20:47 GMT

    You want radical? Then take out the boring parts of current games. Make the bat and ball equal. Take away the slog-fest, but make it intriguing as a Test match, but not whole bloody 5 days. So, what are the things you can adjust? Number of outs -- make it 6 so that top seven in the team get to display their batting while we cutting out the silliness of watching bowlers trying to bat. Two innings of, uh, 15, 20, 25, 30 overs for each team? How about 10 players per side? 8 ball overs but still expect about 15 overs per hour? As for broadcasts, don't put cameras in nose-bleed stands. It looks awful. How about covering a lot more of the game from Long On/ Long Off angles? How about showing a lot more of what is going on in the ground (wide angles) than showing head-to-chest shots of batsmen and bowlers for 45-seconds at a time? Get off the high-horse and learn the good things from American baseball (like fielding, for instance). The game __can__ be improved radically!

  • POSTED BY WesternLion on | March 29, 2008, 19:44 GMT

    Will people in England (or other international venues, for that matter) really care if the Chennai Champions take on the Delhi Destroyers or whatever? I mean, first forcing other international tournaments to reschedule just to fit the IPL calendar, now playing Indian league games in England...what next? Bombay Boys win the World Cup?

  • POSTED BY DineshIyer on | March 29, 2008, 19:25 GMT

    John_Firth, no one is trying to take players away from any league. The IPL is a twenty20 competition that offers a lot more money. Dont forget that Twenty20 is a British brainchild. The ECB (or is it still called the TCCB!!) could have launched a competition like this if they wanted to. If the English players dont want to participate in it, they need not! The thing is that many players want to do so and make some money and thats what irks the board. I hate the BCCI but saying that the IPL is trying to take players away from other leagues is plain wrong!!!

  • POSTED BY novernnick on | March 29, 2008, 19:09 GMT

    I do not agree with IPL matches being played in England, but do agree that we should be looking to offer an alternative. The "new" B&H cup sounds interesting, but I'm not sure the second league in the summer would work. Current structure & B&H would probably be about all that could be fitted in, although to do this the ECB must allocate more money to each county to allow them bigger squads to rotate to ensure no burn out through the extra games.

  • POSTED BY Philip_Gnana on | March 29, 2008, 18:24 GMT

    The ECB is governed by the ICCI and the ICCI governed by the BCCI. There is nothing that can be done by us anymore with the tail wagging the dog. The authoritarian regime that has crossed boundaries going to the extent of even barring cricketers from playing cricket in their own and other countries for signing up with the ICL, is totally out of order. The IPL is trying to appease the rest of the world by sounding of ideas in the form of offers. Here we have a situation where the players intend to play for the IPL whilst not appearing for their country in tests! This just stinks. The love of money is the root of all "evil" (IPL). Do I have to say more. Philip Gnana, New Malden, Surrey.

  • POSTED BY popcorn on | March 29, 2008, 14:13 GMT

    ICL is far more dignified than IPL.The latter is a VULGAR Display of money,and will eventually ruin cricket,if it is not nipped in the bud. I was very happy to read that ECB has said NO to IPL,stating that IPL is a DOMESTIC Competition.Several cricketers,the dashing Kevin Pietersen and Michael Clarke included,have kept their cricketing brains sane. Already,the Australia-West Indies Test series is in jeopardy because of IPL.Test Cricket and ODIs are in danger of collapsing,unless the impotent ICC stands tall against BCCI. I do hope ICL cricketers file a suit against ICC,BCCI,NZC,like the cricketers who joined Kerry Packer did for RESTRAINT OF TRADE. It is an irony that an Englishman mooted the idea of Twenty 20 in the first place.Curse him! Twenty20 is NOT cricket.Dancing girls and film stars do not adorn ANY OTHER Sport,except Twenty20.Cricket is degenerating. Thank God,spectators STILL want to see golf played over 72 holes and four days.Not just a three par night hole in one.

  • POSTED BY John_Firth on | March 29, 2008, 12:04 GMT

    Personally, I'm not so sure English grounds should be promoting a league that's actively trying to take players away from other country's leagues, including ours.

  • POSTED BY bonemendez on | March 29, 2008, 11:58 GMT

    ipl is scared of icl..it may not hav great players but still its awesome..bcci is stop its imperalist nature and mak sure vry1 gets a chance 2 play instead of just makin billions....

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  • POSTED BY bonemendez on | March 29, 2008, 11:58 GMT

    ipl is scared of icl..it may not hav great players but still its awesome..bcci is stop its imperalist nature and mak sure vry1 gets a chance 2 play instead of just makin billions....

  • POSTED BY John_Firth on | March 29, 2008, 12:04 GMT

    Personally, I'm not so sure English grounds should be promoting a league that's actively trying to take players away from other country's leagues, including ours.

  • POSTED BY popcorn on | March 29, 2008, 14:13 GMT

    ICL is far more dignified than IPL.The latter is a VULGAR Display of money,and will eventually ruin cricket,if it is not nipped in the bud. I was very happy to read that ECB has said NO to IPL,stating that IPL is a DOMESTIC Competition.Several cricketers,the dashing Kevin Pietersen and Michael Clarke included,have kept their cricketing brains sane. Already,the Australia-West Indies Test series is in jeopardy because of IPL.Test Cricket and ODIs are in danger of collapsing,unless the impotent ICC stands tall against BCCI. I do hope ICL cricketers file a suit against ICC,BCCI,NZC,like the cricketers who joined Kerry Packer did for RESTRAINT OF TRADE. It is an irony that an Englishman mooted the idea of Twenty 20 in the first place.Curse him! Twenty20 is NOT cricket.Dancing girls and film stars do not adorn ANY OTHER Sport,except Twenty20.Cricket is degenerating. Thank God,spectators STILL want to see golf played over 72 holes and four days.Not just a three par night hole in one.

  • POSTED BY Philip_Gnana on | March 29, 2008, 18:24 GMT

    The ECB is governed by the ICCI and the ICCI governed by the BCCI. There is nothing that can be done by us anymore with the tail wagging the dog. The authoritarian regime that has crossed boundaries going to the extent of even barring cricketers from playing cricket in their own and other countries for signing up with the ICL, is totally out of order. The IPL is trying to appease the rest of the world by sounding of ideas in the form of offers. Here we have a situation where the players intend to play for the IPL whilst not appearing for their country in tests! This just stinks. The love of money is the root of all "evil" (IPL). Do I have to say more. Philip Gnana, New Malden, Surrey.

  • POSTED BY novernnick on | March 29, 2008, 19:09 GMT

    I do not agree with IPL matches being played in England, but do agree that we should be looking to offer an alternative. The "new" B&H cup sounds interesting, but I'm not sure the second league in the summer would work. Current structure & B&H would probably be about all that could be fitted in, although to do this the ECB must allocate more money to each county to allow them bigger squads to rotate to ensure no burn out through the extra games.

  • POSTED BY DineshIyer on | March 29, 2008, 19:25 GMT

    John_Firth, no one is trying to take players away from any league. The IPL is a twenty20 competition that offers a lot more money. Dont forget that Twenty20 is a British brainchild. The ECB (or is it still called the TCCB!!) could have launched a competition like this if they wanted to. If the English players dont want to participate in it, they need not! The thing is that many players want to do so and make some money and thats what irks the board. I hate the BCCI but saying that the IPL is trying to take players away from other leagues is plain wrong!!!

  • POSTED BY WesternLion on | March 29, 2008, 19:44 GMT

    Will people in England (or other international venues, for that matter) really care if the Chennai Champions take on the Delhi Destroyers or whatever? I mean, first forcing other international tournaments to reschedule just to fit the IPL calendar, now playing Indian league games in England...what next? Bombay Boys win the World Cup?

  • POSTED BY michaelfernando on | March 29, 2008, 20:47 GMT

    You want radical? Then take out the boring parts of current games. Make the bat and ball equal. Take away the slog-fest, but make it intriguing as a Test match, but not whole bloody 5 days. So, what are the things you can adjust? Number of outs -- make it 6 so that top seven in the team get to display their batting while we cutting out the silliness of watching bowlers trying to bat. Two innings of, uh, 15, 20, 25, 30 overs for each team? How about 10 players per side? 8 ball overs but still expect about 15 overs per hour? As for broadcasts, don't put cameras in nose-bleed stands. It looks awful. How about covering a lot more of the game from Long On/ Long Off angles? How about showing a lot more of what is going on in the ground (wide angles) than showing head-to-chest shots of batsmen and bowlers for 45-seconds at a time? Get off the high-horse and learn the good things from American baseball (like fielding, for instance). The game __can__ be improved radically!

  • POSTED BY Ashwin_S on | March 30, 2008, 2:27 GMT

    I dont really see how different this is from the EPL where players from pretty much all over the world come to play for English clubs , the BCCI is not saying you play here and not represent your country - players from brazil dont represent their local clubs to get into the national team . Obviously there are different leauges in different countries but this basically is like a local Indian leauge for T20 , just like the Ranji Trophy or Deodhar trophy for 4 day and Limited overs cricket. Thing is though i dont hear the BCCI not saying the ECB shouldnt set up their own leauge - as a player you would obviously prefer the money for your body can only perform so long , its quite natural they sign up , some of the BCCI's methods and its treatment of the ICL players are obviously not great but this helps players as much as it helps the BCCI , as for the BCCI putting it back in the game - now thats a different story - we can only hope.

  • POSTED BY Muqs on | March 30, 2008, 7:29 GMT

    wow I was just thinking about ENglish premier league cricket, and now ECB is ready to launch their version as well. It will be realy great to see competition between IPL and EPL T20. In footbal EPL, spanish la liga, Italian serie a compete with each ohter, its going to be great for cricket. This is the transition or revelutionary period, cricket is changing once and for all. Now I think the time has come when ICC need to re-schedule Future tour program, 7 month for international cricket, 4 month for lucrative leagues, one month of complete break. Wow ECB u r realy becoming cool, so far u guess(ECB) acted like nerd but ur realy funky.Now its time for ICC to become international coolest cricket council by supporting cool leagues. "COOL is cricket, cricket is cool" this is what should be the punchline ICC can use to globalize cricket allover the world. THREE cheers ot ECB n BCCI for launching premier leagues.