England news June 7, 2010

Australia denied first look at Finn

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Australia are to be denied the chance to have a look at Steven Finn ahead of the Ashes this winter. He will have a break from cricket after playing a leading role with the ball in England's 2-0 series win over Bangladesh and is set to undertake a strengthening programme similar to that performed by Stuart Broad. As such, he will not take part in domestic cricket or any of the ODIs ahead of England's Test series against Pakistan.

"Steven Finn has had an impressive start to the summer and will now undertake a strengthening programme similar to that recently undertaken by Stuart Broad," said Geoff Miller, England's national selector. "This will also rule Steven out of the NatWest Series against Australia and Bangladesh before his preparation for the npower Test series against Pakistan."

However, England coach Andy Flower insisted the move had nothing to do with hiding Finn ahead of the winter's Ashes tour and preventing Australia make early notes about the tall quick bowler. "It does not have anything to do with Australia, or the Australian [ODI] series," he said.

"I would be very strong in the description that this is definitely not rest," he added. "He will not be resting; he will be doing a very intensive strengthening programme. He is a young man that needs to develop more physically, and there is a window of opportunity to do that. The reason he is being pulled out of Twenty20 is he needs this in the same way Stuart Broad did.

"It is the responsible thing to do for him personally and in the best interests, medium and long term, of the English cricket side."

Andrew Strauss and Graeme Swann are also going to be rested ahead of England's upcoming one-day internationals against Scotland, Australia and Bangladesh and will be unavailable for any Friends Provident domestic Twenty20 games before their international engagements.

Miller explained that while Twenty20 cricket gives the players the chance to switch from a Test to a limited-overs mindset, it is important to be mindful of regulating player workloads.

"The coming rounds of the Friend's Provident t20 matches are an ideal opportunity for several England players to switch their focus from Test cricket to limited-overs cricket as we look ahead to the forthcoming one-day International against Scotland and the NatWest Series against Australia and Bangladesh," he said.

"We must be mindful of the management of the players' workload and their desire to play in what is a hugely exciting Twenty20 competition. Graeme Swann is in need of a well earned break and as a result won't play any cricket during this period. We believe the best preparation for Andrew Strauss's build up to the NatWest series does not involve the Friend's Provident t20 fixtures and as such he won't be available for these matches during this period."

James Anderson, Stuart Broad, Paul Collingwood, and Kevin Pietersen will have a week's rest but will be available to play domestic Twenty20s from June 13. Alastair Cook will receive treatment for an ongoing back injury later this week before returning for Essex on the same date.

"I feel for the counties when we make these decisions on players and pull them out of county games," Flower said. "The directors of cricket and coaches and captains are under their own pressure with results.

"When you pull their best players out of competitive matches it is quite a hit for them. I realise it requires a lot of understanding from them, and we very much appreciate it."

Ian Bell, Eoin Morgan, Ajmal Shahzad, Ryan Sidebottom, Matt Prior and Jonathan Trott will be available for all county fixtures until June 15. England play Scotland in Edinburgh on June 19 before five ODIs against Australia, starting on June 22, and three against Bangladesh.

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  • on June 10, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    "Finn won't last long. The problem with Englan selectors is that they let new players come in, play a few tests and then their career finishes. where's Harmison, Hoggard, Giles, Panesar, Onions, Mahmood etc, etc, etc. None of these have been able to have a lenghty career to be able to get 400-500 wickets unlike Mcgrath and Warne from Australia, Wasim and Waqar from Pakistan Murli from Sri Lanka Or Walsh and Ambrose from the West Indies"

    What a stupid comment. Why compare them to the greatest bowlers of the modern era? Except for Mahmood, each of those players played much more than a "few" Tests. Harmison has been in and out due to poor England form, Hoggard lost a yard of pace, Giles retired due to injury, Panesar lost his bottle, Onions is currently injured so not in the squad, and Mahmood is far too expensive. Hardly illogical non-pickings. As long as Finn is good enough, he will play. Unless you think that once a player makes his debut, he should keep on playing until he's 40?

  • ruester on June 10, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    Stummped, what are you talking about? Harmison, Hoggard and Panesar where dropped due to not taking wickets. Giles retired because of injury, Onions injured and mahmood was hardly ever a regular England bowler. Great thinking on England management to protect a promising bowler and prepare him for hopefully a long carear in the national side. Hopefully 400 wickets!

  • asillypoint on June 10, 2010, 0:52 GMT

    @Rooboy. Deary, deary me, surely you must of heard of the institute of sport and the cricket academy. This is a strange country where a talented sportsman is paid (by the taxpayer) to do sport and yet, should someone wish to be a doctor they pay for the privilege to study. Yes, pouring money into sport (or nuclear weapons) does yield results. East Germany had a very similar sport ethos.

    Whilst I am not denying the enormous talents of McGrath, Gilly and many many more, I believe Warnie attended the Institute of Sport.

    As for your, somewhat offensive, "nice statement of the bleeding obvious!" I was simply making a reference to earlier comments that the series outcome would be 5-0. Could I suggest you read more carefully before making "bleeding" silly statements.

    As for natural talent, both academic and sporting, I'll plum for Charles Burgess Fry.

  • stumpped on June 9, 2010, 13:52 GMT

    Finn won't last long. The problem with Englan selectors is that they let new players come in, play a few tests and then their career finishes. where's Harmison, Hoggard, Giles, Panesar, Onions, Mahmood etc, etc, etc. None of these have been able to have a lenghty career to be able to get 400-500 wickets unlike Mcgrath and Warne from Australia, Wasim and Waqar from Pakistan Murli from Sri Lanka Or Walsh and Ambrose from the West Indies. So all I can say is Finn is only an outpatient for the team so enjoy the short stay and good luck because Pakistan and Australia won't take you as light as Bangladesh.

  • Rakesh107 on June 9, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    Is this really necessary? If this is really a way to shield Finn from some early bashing from the Aussies then so be it - but is a 'Strengthening Program' realyl required. Did the quicks of yesteryear need this? Couldn't see someone pulling a young Ambrose/Walsh or even Beefy for that matter from a series and telling them they needed to go to the gym? This is the problem with the ECB (or Big Mother)- Finn has had a good series against weak opposition and now they're grooming him for greatness. Surely the lad just needs to bowl and bowl and understand his game and 'Stregthen his body and mind' from, erm, playing cricket!? Like Broad, Finn will be over coached, over hyped and probably become a mediocre first or second change bowler. Poor lad... For what it's worth, no matter what Aus team plays in the Ashes this winter-Eng will lose the series. Other than 2/3 players, England's 'Test players' are mentally inept in the face of real pressure-which Aus will no doubt apply in great measure!

  • livinproof on June 9, 2010, 10:40 GMT

    SettingSun's argument that England have more cricketing depth than Australia is weak and requires immediate strengthening; just like the "new McGrath".

  • Oldmanmartin on June 9, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    May I remind those Aussie ockers that we have a four-Test series against Pakistan before the Ashes? Plenty of time for Finn to build experience and the England selectors to finalise their Ashes attack. We have plenty of capable seamers for the upcoming ODIs.

  • MrUnknownAussie on June 9, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    England has no chance to win a single test. They may drew a test or so which is very unlikely. There happy journey will be over in the Ashes. I can see another english disaster in the Ashes series. After all, getting 20 wickets in two innigs ....too much for them.

  • SettingSun on June 9, 2010, 7:52 GMT

    @jomesh - it was a strengthening programme, not an 'invulnerability to injuries' programme. I'd love to know how much county cricket and Lions cricket all these Aussies mocking our superior pace bowling stocks have seen recently to make such remarks. I should have pointed out we also have superior spin, keeping and batting back-ups as well, but I didn't want you to feel too dejected ahead of the ODIs and The Ashes, especially after the whole T20 World Cup and last Ashes thing. You really can have Pattinson back if you need him!

  • NAARUN on June 9, 2010, 6:56 GMT

    THIS IS TOO MUCH HYPE for this new kid (FINN) to the TEST format. i dont think he will hinder the aussies.. and 1 thing is sure.. for the loss in t20 final. aussies will make the england cry and run out oF australia.. i predict this tour of ENGLAND TO AUSTRALIA is GNG TO BE a winless series.. there will b indvidual performance from swann & peterson ..nothing more.. AUSTRALIA GENRALLY DONT LIKE LOSING IN A MATCH .. to add to that in their home they will demolish the opposition. ENGLAND keep your towels ready to wipe the tears.. ha ha ha.. aussies 5-0 .

  • on June 10, 2010, 8:42 GMT

    "Finn won't last long. The problem with Englan selectors is that they let new players come in, play a few tests and then their career finishes. where's Harmison, Hoggard, Giles, Panesar, Onions, Mahmood etc, etc, etc. None of these have been able to have a lenghty career to be able to get 400-500 wickets unlike Mcgrath and Warne from Australia, Wasim and Waqar from Pakistan Murli from Sri Lanka Or Walsh and Ambrose from the West Indies"

    What a stupid comment. Why compare them to the greatest bowlers of the modern era? Except for Mahmood, each of those players played much more than a "few" Tests. Harmison has been in and out due to poor England form, Hoggard lost a yard of pace, Giles retired due to injury, Panesar lost his bottle, Onions is currently injured so not in the squad, and Mahmood is far too expensive. Hardly illogical non-pickings. As long as Finn is good enough, he will play. Unless you think that once a player makes his debut, he should keep on playing until he's 40?

  • ruester on June 10, 2010, 5:52 GMT

    Stummped, what are you talking about? Harmison, Hoggard and Panesar where dropped due to not taking wickets. Giles retired because of injury, Onions injured and mahmood was hardly ever a regular England bowler. Great thinking on England management to protect a promising bowler and prepare him for hopefully a long carear in the national side. Hopefully 400 wickets!

  • asillypoint on June 10, 2010, 0:52 GMT

    @Rooboy. Deary, deary me, surely you must of heard of the institute of sport and the cricket academy. This is a strange country where a talented sportsman is paid (by the taxpayer) to do sport and yet, should someone wish to be a doctor they pay for the privilege to study. Yes, pouring money into sport (or nuclear weapons) does yield results. East Germany had a very similar sport ethos.

    Whilst I am not denying the enormous talents of McGrath, Gilly and many many more, I believe Warnie attended the Institute of Sport.

    As for your, somewhat offensive, "nice statement of the bleeding obvious!" I was simply making a reference to earlier comments that the series outcome would be 5-0. Could I suggest you read more carefully before making "bleeding" silly statements.

    As for natural talent, both academic and sporting, I'll plum for Charles Burgess Fry.

  • stumpped on June 9, 2010, 13:52 GMT

    Finn won't last long. The problem with Englan selectors is that they let new players come in, play a few tests and then their career finishes. where's Harmison, Hoggard, Giles, Panesar, Onions, Mahmood etc, etc, etc. None of these have been able to have a lenghty career to be able to get 400-500 wickets unlike Mcgrath and Warne from Australia, Wasim and Waqar from Pakistan Murli from Sri Lanka Or Walsh and Ambrose from the West Indies. So all I can say is Finn is only an outpatient for the team so enjoy the short stay and good luck because Pakistan and Australia won't take you as light as Bangladesh.

  • Rakesh107 on June 9, 2010, 12:28 GMT

    Is this really necessary? If this is really a way to shield Finn from some early bashing from the Aussies then so be it - but is a 'Strengthening Program' realyl required. Did the quicks of yesteryear need this? Couldn't see someone pulling a young Ambrose/Walsh or even Beefy for that matter from a series and telling them they needed to go to the gym? This is the problem with the ECB (or Big Mother)- Finn has had a good series against weak opposition and now they're grooming him for greatness. Surely the lad just needs to bowl and bowl and understand his game and 'Stregthen his body and mind' from, erm, playing cricket!? Like Broad, Finn will be over coached, over hyped and probably become a mediocre first or second change bowler. Poor lad... For what it's worth, no matter what Aus team plays in the Ashes this winter-Eng will lose the series. Other than 2/3 players, England's 'Test players' are mentally inept in the face of real pressure-which Aus will no doubt apply in great measure!

  • livinproof on June 9, 2010, 10:40 GMT

    SettingSun's argument that England have more cricketing depth than Australia is weak and requires immediate strengthening; just like the "new McGrath".

  • Oldmanmartin on June 9, 2010, 9:56 GMT

    May I remind those Aussie ockers that we have a four-Test series against Pakistan before the Ashes? Plenty of time for Finn to build experience and the England selectors to finalise their Ashes attack. We have plenty of capable seamers for the upcoming ODIs.

  • MrUnknownAussie on June 9, 2010, 8:39 GMT

    England has no chance to win a single test. They may drew a test or so which is very unlikely. There happy journey will be over in the Ashes. I can see another english disaster in the Ashes series. After all, getting 20 wickets in two innigs ....too much for them.

  • SettingSun on June 9, 2010, 7:52 GMT

    @jomesh - it was a strengthening programme, not an 'invulnerability to injuries' programme. I'd love to know how much county cricket and Lions cricket all these Aussies mocking our superior pace bowling stocks have seen recently to make such remarks. I should have pointed out we also have superior spin, keeping and batting back-ups as well, but I didn't want you to feel too dejected ahead of the ODIs and The Ashes, especially after the whole T20 World Cup and last Ashes thing. You really can have Pattinson back if you need him!

  • NAARUN on June 9, 2010, 6:56 GMT

    THIS IS TOO MUCH HYPE for this new kid (FINN) to the TEST format. i dont think he will hinder the aussies.. and 1 thing is sure.. for the loss in t20 final. aussies will make the england cry and run out oF australia.. i predict this tour of ENGLAND TO AUSTRALIA is GNG TO BE a winless series.. there will b indvidual performance from swann & peterson ..nothing more.. AUSTRALIA GENRALLY DONT LIKE LOSING IN A MATCH .. to add to that in their home they will demolish the opposition. ENGLAND keep your towels ready to wipe the tears.. ha ha ha.. aussies 5-0 .

  • jomesh on June 9, 2010, 3:55 GMT

    Finn set to undertake a strengthening programme similar to that performed by Stuart Broad!!! Isn't Broad now injured? So how good is that strengthening program?

  • Rooboy on June 9, 2010, 2:02 GMT

    Also, @Devastating_Finn, I don't think it was intended but your comments actually point to Australia's upside. You're correct, Johnson did bowl very poorly in the last Ashes, but Australia still pushed England at home all the way. If Mitch bowls poorly Aus are still competitive, but if he bowls anything like he did in the last Aus - South Africa series he can decimate the English line up. I agree with JPS11 - I'm still trying to get over SettingSun's comments about england's back up bowlers - funny, funny stuff!

  • Rooboy on June 9, 2010, 1:51 GMT

    @asillypoint - thanks for clarifying that Australia's dominance was due to cash. Never realised that Warnie's legspinners, Gilly's belligerent batting, McGrath's immaculate line and length etc had nothing to do with talent, it was all due to dollars. As for your comment 'a 5-0 outcome has a low probability' .. nice statement of the bleeding obvious!@spiritwithin - true, the number of Ashes series wins is fairly equal, but the actual number of head to head test wins is well in Australia's favour (even including the dead rubbers that Aus gift the poms), as are series results if we look at contemporary cricket. Lol @SettingSun - I'd take Mckay ahead of any of the names you mentioned, but lets assume Aus start the Ashes with the current incumbents - Bolly, Harris, and Mitch. Assuming full fitness, that leaves Siddle and Hilfy you have ignored as backups. Plunkett and Mahmood average nearly 40 in tests, if these are your 'sufficient replacements' in Aus conditions, you're in big trouble!!

  • on June 9, 2010, 1:45 GMT

    when was it that england last won an ashes series in australia?Err that was before i was born... England are as useless as Allan Mullali haha 5-0 to australia

  • DaTBird187 on June 8, 2010, 22:20 GMT

    Hahaha Setting Sun......Oooo Plunkett, Mahmood Oooo about as intimidating as as a bruised banana. Mahmood was an absolute gun last time they toured Australia.

  • SettingSun on June 8, 2010, 21:34 GMT

    @JPS11 - interesting retort, I'm sure you are privy to the thoughts of all the state selectors, but we both know that is complete drivel. You can have Pattinson back though, if you want - you'll need him a lot more than we do.

  • Devastating_Finn on June 8, 2010, 20:25 GMT

    @Beerjie ....First of all, pup is never going to have bowlers for breakfast, he can only nudge them around for runs. And you talk about Finny being slower? LoL .. he can bowl at 90-mph but he generally bowls 84ish because he's a more of line bowler than Lee or Akhtar. ATM, England probably have a more balanced side than Australia and it will be seen in the upcoming one-day series. You should be more worried about Aussie bowlers because Finn won't have off-days like Johnson who bowled pathetically in the last Ashes until Headingley. A repeat of the last Ashes by Johnson and Aussies will find it tough to regain the Ashes.

  • elsmallo on June 8, 2010, 20:06 GMT

    Um, has Broad become a better bowler since he undertook his strengthening programme? I dread to think what Bob Willis will think of this announcement. Can Finn not get stronger by playing cricket this summer, and develop his bowling muscles that way? Might he not develop physically by growing a little older? They're going to turn him into another injury-prone beefcake. Curtly Ambrose didn't need no strengthening programme.

  • vichan on June 8, 2010, 18:35 GMT

    Hilarious comments from the Aussies and the anti-England brigade from the Subcontinent. Predictions of 5-0 to Australia are, quite frankly, ridiculous - probably shows how little of the game these people seem to know. Predicting such a score when England hold the Ashes and humiliated them in the T20 World Cup is just pure, jingoistic nonsense. Australia will certainly be favourites at the start of this series - quite right given that they have lost one series against ALL the Test teams in the last 17 years. But 5-0? Give me a break.

  • AJ_Tiger86 on June 8, 2010, 18:27 GMT

    England will thrash Australia in the Ashes 5-0. Ha ha.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 8, 2010, 17:14 GMT

    @dwblurb, I suggest you look at the FTP plan, and you would see that the Australian ODI series in England is an Additional, not a pre-planned feature, this suggests it was arranged at short notice and to take advantage of the fact that Pakistan are in the UK...@ashankar, thanks for the information, probably do it between tests as i cant reember the last time a bowler was rotated out of the indian team except for injury....@capitalist_cricketer, you may get a chance both home and away next year providing he doesnt suffer any injures or is out of favour...@Settingsun, I wouldnt say plunkett and mahmood are int he same league as finn.

  • JPS11 on June 8, 2010, 14:40 GMT

    @SettingSun Shahzad, Plunkett, Mahmood, Woakes, Dernbach, Kirby, Fletcher would all struggle to make Australian State sides, great depth. Although you don't mind selecting a bloke to step in for England who can't get a game in Australian Domestic Cricket. Australia's dilemma, much like the last ashes, won't be bowling depth it will be choosing the right mix of bowlers to play out of plenty who are up to test standard.

  • mjcoxx on June 8, 2010, 14:26 GMT

    It seems a bit odd to take a fella out of cricket in the middle of the summer to do a strength program. Wouldn't the winter just gone have been a more appropriate time for it?

  • on June 8, 2010, 13:52 GMT

    No matter wat the KANGAROOS do, THE English guys gonna win the sries for the 2nd cosecutive year.....>>>>>!!!!!!

  • shou_cric on June 8, 2010, 13:36 GMT

    Finn is so new to international cricket and not exposing him to further cricket would hardly help him or his country.He might also need to boost up his health but that being the solo reason of not allowing him to play cricket may turn out costly.Suddenly making him appear in ASHES'10 may turn out fun to watch.Lets hope for

  • Beertjie on June 8, 2010, 13:19 GMT

    I predict that despite all the most up-to-date strengthening methods now available Finn will be another Alan Ward (remember him?). 40 yrs ago in Australia Illingworth trumpeted Ward and John Snow, but it was Snow who did the damage. Finn may be a bit stronger than Ward, but he's quite a bit slower, too. Can't see any threat from this England pace attack - not a patch on Steyn, Morkel, etc. Punter, Pup and Huss will have them for breakfast. It may not be 5-0, but it still won't be a contest.

  • JimDavis on June 8, 2010, 13:18 GMT

    SettingSun, jokes aside, all the English players you mentioned are behind um.... Sidebottom and Bresnan? Good thing Australia won't be playing England A then.

  • Vasi-Koosi on June 8, 2010, 13:14 GMT

    Steven Finn is just awesome and yes, he has the one problem of tripping himself every now and then!!! This is a fantastic move... There is nothing wrong in hiding your weapons before unleashing them out to the enemy. They will need someone like Finn to fire more than 100% to make sure they make a fight in the ashes down under. I would love to see Strauss be the first captain to win the ashes in both the continents... Strauss comes to be as a very clear, calm, composed, confident captain!!!

  • simon_w on June 8, 2010, 13:09 GMT

    Although I honestly believe England can and will win (well, retain) the Ashes in Australia, an Australian series win would not be a huge surprise. A 5-0 whitewash, on the other hand, most definitely would. Australia will have to play well, I think, and even if they do I can still see England coming through. Anything less than a very strong showing from the Aussies and they'll get beat, I reckon.

  • kempson94 on June 8, 2010, 12:41 GMT

    great comment @SettingSun. i don't think anyone can really what either ashes team will be. my choices are different now than yesterday. although i do like the shahzad, anderson, finn partnership, in principle they complement one another well; pace, bounce and swing.

  • Devastating_Finn on June 8, 2010, 12:33 GMT

    @Settingsun ... Finn is not rested (as you can read in the article). He'll go through a strengthening program, which in long run would definitely help him. And I would agree with you that we do have replacements and I would put Sidebottom & Onions ahead of the ones you just mentioned.

  • SettingSun on June 8, 2010, 11:51 GMT

    Loving all the Australian sarcasm here. To be fair, we don't have to rest Finn because we've got loads of seamers and quickies coming through if Finn is injured, so if he got injured I wouldn't be all that worried. Shahzad, Plunkett, Mahmood, Woakes, Dernbach, Kirby, Fletcher - just off the top of my head, would probably suffice as replacements. Obviously if the Aussies lose their top pacemen then they have plenty of names to call on too like....erm, hang on, it will come to me. Oh yeah, McKay and....damn. Never mind, you can always fall back on spin....oh.

  • Devastating_Finn on June 8, 2010, 11:30 GMT

    @spiritwithin Apart from just losing, Bangladesh also have the highest percentage of losing by an innings (a lot worse than Sri-Lanka in 80s and Zimbabwe). Bangladesh have been innings defeat 34 times out of 68.

  • Green_How on June 8, 2010, 11:27 GMT

    I love reading all the anti English stuff whenever a story like this gets put on cricinfo. Here are a few facts for you Aussies - England currently hold the ashes, oh and we also the T20 world cup holders too. I really cannot see a 5-0 whitewash that you are all arrogantly predicting. We shall see come Brisbane in November but my guess is quite a few of you will be surprised !

  • Trickstar on June 8, 2010, 11:00 GMT

    @popcorn How is this hype,announcing which player will be playing in which area of the game in the next few months.Finn's not playing any cricket including County so what has that got to do with the Aussies,if it was a case of hiding him from them he would still be playing County Cricket. You got to love Aussies thinking it's some kind of confusing mind games the selectors are playing all for the benefit of the Aussies,Oh bless.

  • Gupta.Ankur on June 8, 2010, 9:55 GMT

    oh comeon! spare me the hype please!

  • Oldmanmartin on June 8, 2010, 9:35 GMT

    With Anderson, Broad, Shahzad, Sidebottom and Bresnan (whose injury is presumably not long-term) available England have no pressing need to use Finn in these ODIs. He'll presumably play in the Pakistan Test series. Apart from conditioning, England need to sort out his follow-through - we can't have him hitting the deck (in the wrong sense) on rock-hard Aussie pitches.

    The rotation policy is off to a good start. There is every prospect that we will have a full hand of fit seamers for the Ashes tour - hopefully five from Anderson, Broad, Finn, Onions, Shahzad and Bresnan?

  • asillypoint on June 8, 2010, 9:31 GMT

    A few observations. Any nation which pours money into sport, like Australia, will get results. England proved the same point with the 03 rugby world cup and will no doubt put considerable funding into the London Olympics.

    Please get in touch anyone who is happy to have a serious wager on Australia winning 5-0. While such a result is possible, simply things like weather, poor umpiring and above/below par form suggests a 5-0 outcome has a low probability. I will happily accept a wager on it not being a 5-0 outcome.

    Finally, given all the comments about Finn suggests he might just have something. Certainly, Gilly thinks he's a bit special and will create problems for the Australians.

    Having two tall "bouncy" bowlers in Finn and Broad creates a bit of a predicament for Australia, as a slow tuner, without Warnie, could play into England's hands.

    Whatever the case, I still have my doubts it will be 5-0.

  • Capitalist_Cricketer on June 8, 2010, 8:55 GMT

    Im sure the aussies are quacking in thier boots..! i liked finns run up and lanky slim built ala mcgrath, sharma & mohd asif in the making. Yes he can get his streangth by not playing and just working out but nothing ever replaces experience.. He can get very strong but two overs of either afridi or ponting tonking him and his confidence will need to be built up too. But i actually like the present english coaching team, Think they are shaking things up unlike the past set up's. Would like to see him bowling in Test against - Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulker, Laxman, Dhoni, Yuvraj, Pathan.. hehe.. Good Luck Finn.

  • ashankar on June 8, 2010, 8:28 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding and @Ajays_PyrotechniXX i think BCCI does the same by sending them to NCA and the MRF pace foundation. probably they dont advertise??

  • Proteas_Supporter on June 8, 2010, 8:25 GMT

    this is ridiculous, keeping finn away from playing the odi's. dale steyn was hammered in the 2006 AUS tour but he showed what he is capable of in the 2008 AUS tour. keeping finn away doesn't mean that he is going to rattle the aussies. sorry for comparing finn with steyn.

  • cricket_ftw on June 8, 2010, 7:50 GMT

    Make the indian fast bowlers attend similar strengthening programmes and get them fit .. none looks fit in the current indian setup ... BCCI officials has to get the focus on improving the bowling bench strength instead of pulling each others legs ...

  • spiritwithin on June 8, 2010, 6:59 GMT

    @Shahriar Newaz..checkout the history of ashes bcoz both the teams has won almost the same no. of ashes till now..questioning england's test status and comparing it to bangladesh is so foolish on ur part..they won two ashes in this decade and played very well as a test nation but what ur bangladesh has done till now other than losing..

  • Prats6 on June 8, 2010, 6:42 GMT

    And may I add.. would this guy prevent a 5-0 this time again ? Oh maybe thats the plan !

  • Prats6 on June 8, 2010, 6:41 GMT

    Well.. as if this guy is the next Brett Lee, Shoiab Akhtar ..combined in one ! Sometimes its so laughable ! CA would be shaking in their boots by Finn's name ! ... ha ha ..

  • Josh_Schon81 on June 8, 2010, 6:08 GMT

    Haha! @Popcorn I love seeing your comments - always bagging out the pommies. Keep up the good work

  • on June 8, 2010, 5:48 GMT

    It could go the other way and Finn could be hit to all places beyond the white rope. England was playing against Bangladesh and if we're honest they didn't totally dominate them, Finn might need to play 2 or 3 ODI's before he's ready for an Ashes Test.

  • dwblurb on June 8, 2010, 4:32 GMT

    YorkshirePudding wrote: "we're only playing the aussies because they're here playing Pakistan"

    In fact, these ODIs were announced several years ago, well before the prospect of Australia playing Pakistan in England emerged. Of course they are there to make money for the ECB, but they would have happened irrespective of the Pakistan situation.

  • lara71 on June 7, 2010, 21:54 GMT

    Again Engalnd do not think. you need to give finn exposure in all formats. HE bowled well against BANGALESH a team that is still minows and provided no challenge to them. Please do nto compare him to mcgrath because he was a great. All i am saying is finn needs to play cricket.

  • landl47 on June 7, 2010, 19:10 GMT

    At last the England side is getting proactive management. Each player is having his particular needs assessed and a program developed to help him improve. This is the way to get everyone working at their optimum capability for the heavy workload modern international sides face. Since Strauss took over as captain and Flower as manager England have looked a much more professional and organized side. Of course the Aussies will be tough- who would want it any other way? But this England squad can play with anyone and the exciting new players coming through promise good things for years to come. Can't wait for the Ashes.

  • popcorn on June 7, 2010, 18:21 GMT

    This is typical hype by England. Who do you think we are - rookies? Chip and Chop policy of England in the making.

  • on June 7, 2010, 18:08 GMT

    The real test is now. Now we will see which country should be given a test status or not. 80% of the ashes were like this. You can say from the day one that Australia is going to win. Even this year in Australia, I bet you100% that,England will cry out so loud that we can here it from any part of the world.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 7, 2010, 18:06 GMT

    I agree with keeping Finn away from the Aussies in the Summer, the main reason being that the Aussies will want to dominate him in the ODI series, the other is that it would be nice to suprise the Aussies with a new player for once, im also sure Sakers will have him bowling with a Kookuburra ball during the time off...@CricketMaan, we're only playing the aussies because they're here playing Pakistan, and it will boost the coffers for the counties that are hosting the matches....@Ajays, thats the BCCI's problem, they dont look into the future, they could quite easily have done the same when playing bangladesh earlier in the year but chose not to.

  • A.Ak on June 7, 2010, 16:33 GMT

    It doesn't make any big difference whether it is ashes or any other series. The main thing is, ashes is going to be played in Australia, they know what to expect in their home. Performace against Bangladesh, in home conditions, in a overcast weather wont prove him as a great fast bowler. If Finn is good enough, he can do damage nonetheless.

  • Farukafaj on June 7, 2010, 16:09 GMT

    aus r going to win 5-0 again in the coming ashes..eng will be blown away to mitch &co.

  • AJAYs_PyrotechniXX on June 7, 2010, 15:35 GMT

    why dont Indian bowlers have their strengthening programme. Is it that we cant afford it because there is nothing that BCCI cant afford. Bowlers like Ishant Sharma could benefit from such Strength building programmes.

  • on June 7, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    Yes. Australia must be seriously worried . :P

  • CricketMaan on June 7, 2010, 13:24 GMT

    another 5 ODIS after 7 ODIs last year, looks like Ind-SL, Eng-Aus can never give up playing each other

  • skb.junior on June 7, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    Aussies are winning coming Ashes 5-0.

  • boris6491 on June 7, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    I concur with the resting plans for every player except Strauss. He needs to keep playing some limited overs cricket, whether it be OD or T20 if he expects to succeed in the upcoming summer. The plans by the ECB inherently seem to imply that Andrew Strauss is a better one day cricketer than Eoin Morgan. To most, this would appear preposterous considering the excellent contributions Morgan has been making over the past while in the England limited overs outfit. If they should be concerned about anybody, it should be about the cricketers who have served them well in ODIs. By playing, Strauss would also be showing some intent to improve his play in limited overs cricket and would get a useful warm-up ahead of the ODIs to come. Not impressed with this decision.

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  • boris6491 on June 7, 2010, 12:43 GMT

    I concur with the resting plans for every player except Strauss. He needs to keep playing some limited overs cricket, whether it be OD or T20 if he expects to succeed in the upcoming summer. The plans by the ECB inherently seem to imply that Andrew Strauss is a better one day cricketer than Eoin Morgan. To most, this would appear preposterous considering the excellent contributions Morgan has been making over the past while in the England limited overs outfit. If they should be concerned about anybody, it should be about the cricketers who have served them well in ODIs. By playing, Strauss would also be showing some intent to improve his play in limited overs cricket and would get a useful warm-up ahead of the ODIs to come. Not impressed with this decision.

  • skb.junior on June 7, 2010, 13:06 GMT

    Aussies are winning coming Ashes 5-0.

  • CricketMaan on June 7, 2010, 13:24 GMT

    another 5 ODIS after 7 ODIs last year, looks like Ind-SL, Eng-Aus can never give up playing each other

  • on June 7, 2010, 14:25 GMT

    Yes. Australia must be seriously worried . :P

  • AJAYs_PyrotechniXX on June 7, 2010, 15:35 GMT

    why dont Indian bowlers have their strengthening programme. Is it that we cant afford it because there is nothing that BCCI cant afford. Bowlers like Ishant Sharma could benefit from such Strength building programmes.

  • Farukafaj on June 7, 2010, 16:09 GMT

    aus r going to win 5-0 again in the coming ashes..eng will be blown away to mitch &co.

  • A.Ak on June 7, 2010, 16:33 GMT

    It doesn't make any big difference whether it is ashes or any other series. The main thing is, ashes is going to be played in Australia, they know what to expect in their home. Performace against Bangladesh, in home conditions, in a overcast weather wont prove him as a great fast bowler. If Finn is good enough, he can do damage nonetheless.

  • YorkshirePudding on June 7, 2010, 18:06 GMT

    I agree with keeping Finn away from the Aussies in the Summer, the main reason being that the Aussies will want to dominate him in the ODI series, the other is that it would be nice to suprise the Aussies with a new player for once, im also sure Sakers will have him bowling with a Kookuburra ball during the time off...@CricketMaan, we're only playing the aussies because they're here playing Pakistan, and it will boost the coffers for the counties that are hosting the matches....@Ajays, thats the BCCI's problem, they dont look into the future, they could quite easily have done the same when playing bangladesh earlier in the year but chose not to.

  • on June 7, 2010, 18:08 GMT

    The real test is now. Now we will see which country should be given a test status or not. 80% of the ashes were like this. You can say from the day one that Australia is going to win. Even this year in Australia, I bet you100% that,England will cry out so loud that we can here it from any part of the world.

  • popcorn on June 7, 2010, 18:21 GMT

    This is typical hype by England. Who do you think we are - rookies? Chip and Chop policy of England in the making.