England news July 10, 2011

Broad and Bresnan fight for Test spot

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Stuart Broad faces a vital week for the short-term prospects of his England place after being dropped for the deciding one-day international at Old Trafford on Saturday. His county, Nottinghamshire, have a Championship match against Somerset starting on Monday and Broad will need wickets to avoid being overtaken by Tim Bresnan.

It had been considered that Broad was so highly rated as part of the player-management structure within the England set-up that he would survive the axe, especially after finally opening his wicket tally with two scalps on his home ground at Trent Bridge. However, when England wanted to alter the balance of their team and include Samit Patel as a second spin option, it was Broad who made way with Jade Dernbach retaining his place.

Broad had been carrying a heel problem since the end of the Sri Lanka Test series and also hurt his ankle in training before the Twenty20 in Bristol, where he made his captaincy debut, but Alastair Cook didn't hide why the decision had been made.

"We wanted to play two spinners," he said. "We picked Jade ahead of Broady, and that's why we changed it. It doesn't mean that Broady won't come back in. It's obviously a tough pill for him to swallow, but his record in one-day cricket is outstanding. Just because he hasn't taken the wickets he would have liked doesn't mean he won't be back."

It was a view echoed by Andy Flower, the England team director, who added that the extra rest will benefit Broad and suggested that he was still very much in the planning to face India. "A nice by-product of him missing this game is that he will have a four-day break from bowling between the fourth one-day international that he played and the four-day game that he will play for Nottinghamshire," Flower said.

"After that he can have another four-day break to rest those niggles and then get into training for the Test match at Lord's. Broad's been a superb performer for us, a great competitor - and I foresee him doing great things for us in the future, both in this upcoming Test series and the one-day series."

The decision showed that Cook, in consultation with Flower, wasn't afraid to make tough selection decisions even if it involved dumping a fellow international captain. However, it is England's three-captain policy which continues to throw up intriguing situations, as it is now Andrew Strauss who will have a major say on Broad's place in the Test team.

While Broad is bowling at Trent Bridge - a good venue for a seamer to try to regain form and confidence - other contenders for his place will be looking to stake their claims. At the head of the list are Bresnan and Steven Finn, the former who made a successful return from injury during the one-day series with eight wickets at 29 including 3 for 49 at Old Trafford while Finn was in the one-day squad without playing. Chris Woakes, the Warwickshire allrounder, also couldn't get a game but he's some way off Test selection at present.

"We wanted to try out a couple of new fast bowlers," Flower said. "Jade Dernbach has got his chance in this series, but we also had Steven and Chris in the squad. I think they've both got a future. There is a lot of competition for fast-bowling places. We'll see how they develop over the next couple of months. Whether they get a go in the Tests or not, I'm not sure, but I think they've both got futures in the limited-overs game."

Yorkshire have a Championship match against Worcestershire which will allow Bresnan some extended spells of bowling after his one-day return, but Finn doesn't have a four-day game available with Middlesex not in Championship action. It was the situation that forced Strauss to ask Somerset if he could appear for them against India later in the week.

Finn was the next in line when a replacement was needed against Sri Lanka, at Lord's, but at that time Bresnan, who was outstanding at Melbourne and Sydney during the Ashes, was still on the sidelines. Finn was inconsistent at his home ground but still finished the match with four wickets.

Away from Bresnan and Finn, the other option could be Graham Onions if England wants a wicket-to-wicket bowler. Again, though, the scheduling isn't helpful for Onions - who missed the whole of last season with a severe back injury - as Durham aren't in four-day action before the first Test.

Andrew McGlashan is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • on July 13, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    what is broad doing as abowler he is not getting any swing nor ne movement off d deck he should b dropped .breshnan is far more better.I dont know y these english rate themselves so highly.k they might have done well in recent past but just considering that thay cant claim that they can beat india .i ve heard that tremltt has done well vs srilanka but if u look at that team xcept for mahela and kumar not many r experienced and our batting line up is d best in d world with gautiand viru opening ,sachin at no3,rahul@4,vvs at 5 dhoni i at six and either raina or yuvi at7folowed by bowlers .and when it comes 2 bowling with Zak,sreeshant will b k as he swings d ball at pace and ishant with and bounce is not too bad either.This series might end up in draw or Indian win not england .

  • anver777 on July 13, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Considering the current form i think Bresnan is confident & is a better choice than Broad in tests......Broad need to play county matches & boost his confidence before the IND series !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • stationmaster on July 13, 2011, 3:21 GMT

    Can anyone tell my why Shazad isn't in the running any more ? He had a great attitude and bowled really well, I know he was injured but what's his status now ? I think he deserves a comeback.

  • Meety on July 13, 2011, 1:13 GMT

    @Saif Khan - which Ozzy side are you comparing? Oz did morph quite a bit but by 2005 I can tell you that the openers are about even - although Hayden & Langar did well EVERYWHERE, whereas as Gambhir as impressive as he is - has a limited resume outside of India (could easily rectify this). Ponting at the very least is the equivalent of Dravid in batting terms - most people without bagging Dravid would agree that Ponting has been or is better than Dravid. Tendulkar v Clarke - um yes India, Martyn v Laxman I'd take Martyn (I admire/dread Laxman)! Symonds v who? - I'd take Symonds - & Gilly is definately superior to Dhoni in many different ways including stats-wise! Gilly was vice captain around 2005 as well. So I totally disagree that India have a better line up then what Oz had in 2005, India have the best batting line up in the CURRENT world order! I expect India will do much better then what the Sri Lankans did & I a expect Sharma to step up, but I think England 2-1 in a great series!

  • 5wombats on July 12, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    @HatsforBats; I DO compliment Aussies and have done many times on here... The fiercest opponents. The beautiful thing (of the many beautiful things) about that 2005 Ashes, was that Australia were good, really ****ing good, and England were good enough to beat them. This current 2011 England team is better. Turning to quantum @CandidIndian; no, cockiness isn't involved - just an eye for the facts. @Saif Khan; "Gilchrist was better than Dhoni is now". Somewhat! IMO Adam Gilchrist was one of the greatest players of all time. See @Hatsfor Bats - proof.

  • on July 12, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    All the English supporters are underestimating indian bowlers. They did well in SA barring first test. Zak is very good with both new and old ball. Ishant is coming off after a good series against WI. Praveen & sree will be handful in these swinging conditions. With all due respect to the english side they are performing very well in the last 2 years. But have they won any match coming from behind? the answer is no. On the other hand India have won test matches even after conceding more than 400 runs against Aus & Sl. Eng did drew some close matches against aus & sa, but they never won. They did win ashes but all the time they had first use of the wickets and they had huge totals to attack Aus. So what if it becomes other way around in this series? It will be interesting to see swann against Indian batsman. He will get wickets but it wont be enough to clinch a win. If India survives Lord's test, then they can win 2-1 otherwise it will be 1-1. Can't wait for the series to begin

  • CandidIndian on July 12, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    5wombats-We(Indian fans) have great respect for England and their recent achievements , but since you are being cocky,you should know that Poms have not beaten India in tests let alone series since 2005, that is 6 years.Last two series have gone in favor of India.If English team is thinking the same way as you are,that is completely writing us off with no respect whatsoever then our team is in advantage here.

  • HatsforBats on July 12, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    @Meety: Bresnan might be more effective relative to his test career so far, but I've certainly never seen anyone bowl a heavier ball than Flintoff. His physicality was his biggest asset and, sadly, probably the cause of his premature retirement. @Saif Khan: Do you honestly think Dravid is a better no.3 than Ponting? Not sure how many people would agree with that. As for Dhoni, come on, Gilchrist was and will always be considered a better wicketkeeper/batsmen.

  • on July 12, 2011, 11:32 GMT

    @Vacant_slips; I agree that India's team is not as good as the 2005 Aussies (how many in history have been?) but their batting is way better. Comparing the batting order; The openers are about equal in terms of skill, Virender Sehwag is probably better than Hayden or Langer while Gambhir is getting up there. Nos 3 and 4 go to India without doubt and with Laxman at 5, this position goes to india as well. Gilchrist was better than Dhoni is now, but remember that he is the captain as well. Anyway my point is that that Aussie side probably had the best allround bowling attack in history (the 1980s WI didnt have a spin bowler), so thats why they were better...

  • on July 12, 2011, 8:08 GMT

    @ Pradeep Kumar and the rest of the England haters:

    Why can you not give England credit where credit is due? They are the T20 champions, they beat Australia in consecutive ashes tournaments and they have some of the best batsmen and bowlers in the world. To even be in the position they are now with the number 1 spot open for grabs is a massive achievement. If you had looked at England 2006 to 2008 you see a completely different side to today's version. They understood why they were failing and they fixed it. They stopped hitting the gym so much and started hitting the pitch more. They started attacking the stumps and leaving the ball; hitting bat deliveries and bowling good players. Whether you think so or not, England have a very good chance of beating India in England. India on the other hand are a fantastic team, but it is high time that people realised that they are not invincible. I think the series will be close but in my opinion England will prevail 2-0.

  • on July 13, 2011, 19:11 GMT

    what is broad doing as abowler he is not getting any swing nor ne movement off d deck he should b dropped .breshnan is far more better.I dont know y these english rate themselves so highly.k they might have done well in recent past but just considering that thay cant claim that they can beat india .i ve heard that tremltt has done well vs srilanka but if u look at that team xcept for mahela and kumar not many r experienced and our batting line up is d best in d world with gautiand viru opening ,sachin at no3,rahul@4,vvs at 5 dhoni i at six and either raina or yuvi at7folowed by bowlers .and when it comes 2 bowling with Zak,sreeshant will b k as he swings d ball at pace and ishant with and bounce is not too bad either.This series might end up in draw or Indian win not england .

  • anver777 on July 13, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Considering the current form i think Bresnan is confident & is a better choice than Broad in tests......Broad need to play county matches & boost his confidence before the IND series !!!!!!!!!!!!

  • stationmaster on July 13, 2011, 3:21 GMT

    Can anyone tell my why Shazad isn't in the running any more ? He had a great attitude and bowled really well, I know he was injured but what's his status now ? I think he deserves a comeback.

  • Meety on July 13, 2011, 1:13 GMT

    @Saif Khan - which Ozzy side are you comparing? Oz did morph quite a bit but by 2005 I can tell you that the openers are about even - although Hayden & Langar did well EVERYWHERE, whereas as Gambhir as impressive as he is - has a limited resume outside of India (could easily rectify this). Ponting at the very least is the equivalent of Dravid in batting terms - most people without bagging Dravid would agree that Ponting has been or is better than Dravid. Tendulkar v Clarke - um yes India, Martyn v Laxman I'd take Martyn (I admire/dread Laxman)! Symonds v who? - I'd take Symonds - & Gilly is definately superior to Dhoni in many different ways including stats-wise! Gilly was vice captain around 2005 as well. So I totally disagree that India have a better line up then what Oz had in 2005, India have the best batting line up in the CURRENT world order! I expect India will do much better then what the Sri Lankans did & I a expect Sharma to step up, but I think England 2-1 in a great series!

  • 5wombats on July 12, 2011, 21:01 GMT

    @HatsforBats; I DO compliment Aussies and have done many times on here... The fiercest opponents. The beautiful thing (of the many beautiful things) about that 2005 Ashes, was that Australia were good, really ****ing good, and England were good enough to beat them. This current 2011 England team is better. Turning to quantum @CandidIndian; no, cockiness isn't involved - just an eye for the facts. @Saif Khan; "Gilchrist was better than Dhoni is now". Somewhat! IMO Adam Gilchrist was one of the greatest players of all time. See @Hatsfor Bats - proof.

  • on July 12, 2011, 16:52 GMT

    All the English supporters are underestimating indian bowlers. They did well in SA barring first test. Zak is very good with both new and old ball. Ishant is coming off after a good series against WI. Praveen & sree will be handful in these swinging conditions. With all due respect to the english side they are performing very well in the last 2 years. But have they won any match coming from behind? the answer is no. On the other hand India have won test matches even after conceding more than 400 runs against Aus & Sl. Eng did drew some close matches against aus & sa, but they never won. They did win ashes but all the time they had first use of the wickets and they had huge totals to attack Aus. So what if it becomes other way around in this series? It will be interesting to see swann against Indian batsman. He will get wickets but it wont be enough to clinch a win. If India survives Lord's test, then they can win 2-1 otherwise it will be 1-1. Can't wait for the series to begin

  • CandidIndian on July 12, 2011, 15:02 GMT

    5wombats-We(Indian fans) have great respect for England and their recent achievements , but since you are being cocky,you should know that Poms have not beaten India in tests let alone series since 2005, that is 6 years.Last two series have gone in favor of India.If English team is thinking the same way as you are,that is completely writing us off with no respect whatsoever then our team is in advantage here.

  • HatsforBats on July 12, 2011, 12:17 GMT

    @Meety: Bresnan might be more effective relative to his test career so far, but I've certainly never seen anyone bowl a heavier ball than Flintoff. His physicality was his biggest asset and, sadly, probably the cause of his premature retirement. @Saif Khan: Do you honestly think Dravid is a better no.3 than Ponting? Not sure how many people would agree with that. As for Dhoni, come on, Gilchrist was and will always be considered a better wicketkeeper/batsmen.

  • on July 12, 2011, 11:32 GMT

    @Vacant_slips; I agree that India's team is not as good as the 2005 Aussies (how many in history have been?) but their batting is way better. Comparing the batting order; The openers are about equal in terms of skill, Virender Sehwag is probably better than Hayden or Langer while Gambhir is getting up there. Nos 3 and 4 go to India without doubt and with Laxman at 5, this position goes to india as well. Gilchrist was better than Dhoni is now, but remember that he is the captain as well. Anyway my point is that that Aussie side probably had the best allround bowling attack in history (the 1980s WI didnt have a spin bowler), so thats why they were better...

  • on July 12, 2011, 8:08 GMT

    @ Pradeep Kumar and the rest of the England haters:

    Why can you not give England credit where credit is due? They are the T20 champions, they beat Australia in consecutive ashes tournaments and they have some of the best batsmen and bowlers in the world. To even be in the position they are now with the number 1 spot open for grabs is a massive achievement. If you had looked at England 2006 to 2008 you see a completely different side to today's version. They understood why they were failing and they fixed it. They stopped hitting the gym so much and started hitting the pitch more. They started attacking the stumps and leaving the ball; hitting bat deliveries and bowling good players. Whether you think so or not, England have a very good chance of beating India in England. India on the other hand are a fantastic team, but it is high time that people realised that they are not invincible. I think the series will be close but in my opinion England will prevail 2-0.

  • on July 12, 2011, 6:49 GMT

    To be very honest,i found this guy Stuart Broad as a very Over rated Cricketer,To me Steven Finn or to say Ajmal shahzad are much better options....

  • on July 12, 2011, 4:26 GMT

    i think series won by india 3-0 because of dravid/sehwag/ishant/sachin.

  • Amit_4_Sachin on July 12, 2011, 1:29 GMT

    English fans are terribly overconfident. SA with the likes of Steyn & Morkel in bowling and Amla & Kallis in batting, couldn't beat India in their own den. England can't match them in either. India has an invincible batting line up & extremely competent pace bowling unit. The only weakness is Bhajji, but I can't see Swann doing better against us.

    Regarding Broad, he's England's luckiest cricketer ever if not world's.

  • Meety on July 12, 2011, 1:15 GMT

    @HatsforBats/wombats - I think you'll find that stats wise Bresnan is superior to Flintoff (although Bresnan's sample base is much smaller)! Flintoff always looked more dangerous with bat or ball in hand, but Bresnan seemed to be more effective. -- -- -- Do not under estimate the Indians. I thought the Saffas would towel them up in Sth Africa & unofficially claim the #1 spot in tests. The Indians somehow came away with a drawn series & could argue they were better placed to win the final test. The Indians somehow managed to win the last series in England too! Ishant Sharma could loom as India's biggest asset (bigger then the aging Dravid/Laxman & SRT). I expect the Poms to win, but it will depend a lot on conditions & whether Sehwag gets away from the Poms. Knock Sehwag off cheaply & I don't think India will bat themselves into a winning position, they'll rely on a Pommy collapse. I think Singh will get belted & I think Dravid is past it but India CAN win this series.

  • Meety on July 12, 2011, 0:37 GMT

    @Rocket180 - you misunderstand me. I wouldn't pick Bresnan over Finn for batting. I would pick Bresnan because I am not sold on Finn even though statistically he is very good. I can't get past his almost uncoordinated run up that lacks any semblance of fluency. That makes me think that he is only a short breath away from coming undone. Bresnan does not quite match Finn statistically but I think he is more robust & much more likely to get under the skin of the Indians, (Broad can niggle but I think he is not in the same class of bowling as Bresnan). @ BigGeorgeMehemood - I like Bresnan - but that's a stretch! LOL!!!!! @ A_Vacant_Slip - its what I said at the start at the start of the series & in the end I wasn't actually proven wrong. Bresnan & Tremlett were truely under the radar & England finished the Ashes with a far superior bowling line up then the one they started with. I was wishing Broad hadn't got injured! By all means select Finn & Broad! LOL!

  • HatsforBats on July 11, 2011, 23:06 GMT

    @5wombats: don't look now, I think you just gave the aussies a compliment! Have to disagree with you (of course) on a couple of points. I'd take Tresco/Vaughn over Cook/Trott, the numbers might not back me up but I'd be awake. I'd also put Jones streets ahead of Anderson; I still consider how his career went an absolute tragedy, he could have been so good. Also Bresnan doesn't really compare to Freddie, I like him, but he just doesn't bowl with the physical threat that Freddie did. But you're absolutely right about Swann, he's miles better than Singh. England have had such talented bowlers over the last decade (the best in the world), it's a shame they've rarely come together at the same time.

  • 5wombats on July 11, 2011, 20:56 GMT

    Hey @vacantslip! where have you been! you and @Ashes61 are right. Thinking about it Eng batting and bowling is stronger than 2005, esp in spin department; The King of Spain is no match for King Swann! Cook& Trott definitely better than Vaughan/Trescothick and Bresnan comparable to Freddie with ball if not quite with bat. Anderson about the same as Simon Jones (the worshipful...) and Tremlett better than Harmison. As for the current india - in no way can they be compared to the 2005 (or 2006/7 for that matter) Aussies. The current crop of indian bowlers can't be mentioned in the same breath as Lee, Warne, McGrath and the Aus batsmen were completely formidable - Hayden, Langer, Ponting, Martyn, Gilchrist, Clarke... phew! England 2005 were bowling that lot out for fun - I'm not sure what makes our indian friends think Englands 2011 bowlers, who are better all round than in 2005, won't be doing the same thing to the indians. England to win 2-0 and only weather saving india from worse.

  • cricketissikk on July 11, 2011, 20:04 GMT

    i think tha bresnan is a better bowler in all formats and a better limited overs batter than broad is a better test bat. i would still go for bresnan because he is a good bowler and decent bat my XI strauss cook trott pietersen bell morgan prior bresnan swann anderson tremlett

  • A_Vacant_Slip on July 11, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    @Meety; in The Ashes Australias problems were more than just Tremlett and Bresnan as you well know. Of Australias many and manifest problems - inability to bowl England out or stop them scoring at will was one of the biggest. Finn/Broad/Tremlett/Bresnan did not come into that equation, so stop kidding yourself. Aus never had the fire power to win The Ashes and poor batting from the likes of Ponting, Clarke, etc just compounded the problems. Unlike Australia, England simply drop players who aren't performing or who don't suit the requirements of the pitch or conditions. This is why Broad will almost certainly be dropped for the first test V india. KP, in spite of his "threat factor" also has to perform - or he'll be the next one to go. This current England team are better than the 2005 vintage and currently india are nowhere near as good as the 2005 Aussies with Warne, McGrath, Langer, Lee, etc - so it's pretty obvious that England are going to beat the indians. I'm going 2-0 England.

  • on July 11, 2011, 17:39 GMT

    first of all i will tell u tat worlds best team is india no one is better than us england will have no chance to win us.... after all they lose the match against the bangladesh and ireland this itself shows their weaker candidates....

  • intcamd on July 11, 2011, 17:21 GMT

    OK, let the main course beging, after the teaser series both countries played. From the comments here, it seems that fans of both countries are feeling quite confident, that augurs well for a keen series. The conventional wisdom is that Engalnd have the upper edge in bowling and India in batting but who knows, this could be turned on its head. India when playing abroad, have done better on true bowling pitches, as the helpful conditions assist their seamers who otherwise may be ineffective on pitches lacking bite. Ishant doing well in WI helps India's confidence. Dravid has historically done well in Engalnd, and while his form dipped in recent years, he played somewhat OK in WI. We need to see how Gambhir shapes up in ENG. I bet that Dhoni will flop with the bat, hehe, but then again, he rarely contributes with the bat anyway. Sachin and VVS will be the usual, and hopefully Sehwag does better here than SA, as ENG has no one to match Steyn.

  • the_blue_android on July 11, 2011, 17:09 GMT

    One series, it's Jimmy Anderson who's the biggest threat, next series, it's Broad, next series, it's Tremlett or Bresnan. Like in the past, it was Harmison, Flintoff yada yada yada. How does the english media manage to create a new "threat" for every series?

  • on July 11, 2011, 16:47 GMT

    i don't even know why stuart broad is in the team at all, at best he is a fringe player. He definitely was promising during the 09 ashes but all he is stuck with now is potential. He is incredibly lucky to be in the squad still

  • on July 11, 2011, 16:25 GMT

    Arguably,England has better bowling and captaincy,but India has an almost invincible kind of middle order and that evens it up. Indian bowlers too cant be written off,personally I feel Zak is the best bowler among both the teams.India might find problems with third seamer.At the moment,Swann is way ahead of Harbhajan.If Bhajji picks his game up,then both the bowling units match each other.The difference between the two sides then would be captaincy. Dhoni has already proved in WI that he is satisfied with just one victory and doesn't want to win too many games,which is not the case with other captains.Looking ahead for a wonderful series.I hope test cricket wins.

  • gmoturu on July 11, 2011, 16:08 GMT

    whatever guys. this is going to be so good. i don't care who wins, though i'm slightly inclined towards INDIA. hope rain doesn't ruin this wonderful test series. thank god for this series. i always love to watch cricket played in england. it just feels so cool & awesome.

  • ashes61 on July 11, 2011, 16:03 GMT

    Having just talked up England, what about India? Firstly, climate & pitches. They will be at no disadvantage at all compared with SL, who had a comparatively inexperienced side badly affected by injury & had rotten luck with cold, wet weather (especially after that April heatwave). India have huge experience, the confidence from success in recent years, and plenty of players with county experience in our conditions. So practically no "home" advantage to England as far as playing conditions are concerned. India have the strongest batting lineup these Engl bowlers will have faced, but however good Tendulkar, Sehwag, Laxmann & Dravid are, all four are past their best - definitely. They will get a great reception from Eng fans wherever they appear (especially Sachin of course - we thought it was his last tour here LAST time!) but it is not realistic to expect them all to have a good series. The other bats must therefore come good - & may well do so. A VERY good series is in prospect!

  • ashes61 on July 11, 2011, 15:23 GMT

    England has its best team for many years (probably just pipping 2003-05) and at the moment it almost picks itself, with the luxury of being able to make odd adjustments here and there as required without weakening the side. Very fortunate in having an excellent selection panel (yes, I know how you feel in Oz - sorry about that, but we did have to wait a good few years!) who follow sensible policies. We undoubtedly have the best coach/manager in the world and are VERY lucky in that respect, given that he's not English. A captain who is very sound & grounded & respected by the team - I think his recent run of low Test scores will be only a brief hiccup. Our bowling position is simply a luxury - we could give away a reliable Test-class bowler to virtually all the other Test countries and still field a couple of world-class ones. Perm any four from 7 or 8! Bresnan is certainly in front of Broad. KP holds his place for the present but a 3-year decline has to be reversed quickly.

  • CricSamraat on July 11, 2011, 15:16 GMT

    Based on his current performace, it is hard to make a believable case for inclusion of Broad in any of the three formats. No skipper worth his salt, can include him in his team - be him either Cook or Strauss or Broad himself.

  • JackJak on July 11, 2011, 15:13 GMT

    If broad can bowl those bouncers effectively and mix it up with good line and length..a surprise yorker at good pace then he could be very effective against india who cant play the short ball well at all..except for dravid and tendulkar ...bowl it into the ribcage of sehwag and he gets out..as long as Broad and co bowl with a plan to take wickets then would be a good bowling line up which can finish India off easy

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 11, 2011, 15:11 GMT

    to be honest, tremlett is not that good. agree, he had good series against weak SL batting, but indian batting will test him, mind you. bowling upfront to someone like Sehwag will be hell lot of difficult, if he gets going, eng will be in big trouble including swann. still i must say, both teams are evenly matched, india being ahead in batting and poms slightly in bowling. but again, having bowler friendly conditions can be danger move as india have shown in the past 3-4 years that it can actually help them turn around the match on its head with Zak, Sreesanth and now Ishant. all in all, hoping for close tight games, may the best team win. all the best India, Go conquer eng again.

  • Rocket_180 on July 11, 2011, 15:10 GMT

    @pankaj playing in India on flat turning wickets where teams make 500+ your right England would struggle because its a batsman game, but this series is in England with pitchs that have pace & bounce which favs the bowlers and as Englands bowling unit is beter than India's then we will be a strong side in England, also the batting averages of your batsman in this country is very simlair to Englands so the batting line ups are very simlair in English conditions, but are much stronger bowling unit will win this series in convincing style

    I Just hope that the ECB produce proper test match pitches with pace & bounce (like Rose Bowl) so that England get to use there home advantage just like all over worlds sides do, and dont buckle to the pressure of money and produce flat placid pitchs were both sides make 600 and its a boring game

  • JackJak on July 11, 2011, 15:08 GMT

    Right now it looks like England has a bit of similarity to its attack and they cant have so many of the similar ones playing together. Anderson if there is a bit of swing yes he should be there and if he is in good rhythm, but flat pitches why waste him..Bresnan is more a worker so should be there in most conditions..But Broad is far more gifted that Bresnan but he just keeps bouncing and bouncing that it has become a regular ball for him ..So no longer a surprise. Dernbach showed that he can be a good bowler with the yorkers ..thats a good sign so maybe even he is a good option in the tests if he can be consistent. Tremlett is lovely to watch.. big man ..lovely to watch like Anderson..But he should be able to bowl a bit quicker..and a few more yorkers and those dangerous bouncers from with good pace would make him a more complete bowler. Why is Bopara not playing in the one days..thats a puzzle. Kevin Pietersen has never been a great batsman..more a media creation

  • wnwn on July 11, 2011, 14:54 GMT

    With Tremlett in the team there is no need for Broad to be testing the middle of the pitch all the time. His job should be to pitch the ball up 95 percent of the time in an attempt to get late seam movement at high speed and that is when he's at his best.

  • Bollo on July 11, 2011, 14:48 GMT

    Yeah, as an Aussie, not convinced with Finn. Lots of wickets in Aus, but seemed to release pressure and get a few cheap ones. Bresnan was a revelation. I`d have him in for sure over either Finn or Broad.

  • Truemans_Ghost on July 11, 2011, 14:40 GMT

    It makes a nice change for England to have more decent bowlers than test places after decades of wincing whenever we saw the team sheet. I'd love us to have the gumption to play 5 bowlers, but it isn't going to happen. Prior averages 40ish in tests so play him at 6. I reckon dropping broad will do him good. Hopefully he'll come back a better bowler. Despite being a Yorkshire fan, I always had doubts about whether Bressie was good enough, but i think he has surprised a lot of people, Worked really hard to make himself a good cricketer and deserves his place. We could do with KP working a bit harder at being a proper extra bowler though. The rest of the side picks itself. @Pankaj - sush man if all you have to say is a rant

  • Herbet on July 11, 2011, 13:32 GMT

    You can't afford waywardness or buffet bowling that will undo pressure against India's batting, so on that basis any out of form bowler can't be picked, including Broad. So that rules him out. It may also rule out Finn, because although he does take wickets he leaks a good few runs too. It's a tricky balancing act. Plus, do we want his fledging reputation and confidence undone due to one slightly slack spell against Sehwag? Bresnan is tight with the runs, a bit more mature and a technically sound batsman but can he take the wickets? I think he might, and his ability with reverse swing make's him more versatile. I hope we have at least one match on a bouncy pitch under cloudy skies, I'd love to see how India handle Tremlett and Anderson in those conditions. If they can, and they win the series then fair play to them, they deserve to be number 1.

  • Pankaj_INDIA on July 11, 2011, 13:24 GMT

    @Rocket180: u r funny mate, u should try for TV acting. for ur information, eng will find it hard to even draw a match in india, but india will win matches in ur home. and if u give us bouncy pitches, like SA in Durban, Aus in perth and WI in jamaica gave, u r in for a really big trouble. mark my words, u will eat ur words. (post this comment cricinfo, dont be bias towards england)

  • HatsforBats on July 11, 2011, 13:19 GMT

    I'd have to go Bresnan over Broad or Finn, he seems to have a bit of Merv Hughes about him and I reckon he'd compliment Tremlett & Anderson well. Broad has his good spells (and us Aussies have copped a couple), but he's not the sharpest tool in the shed, and frankly, averaging 36 after 37 tests means its time for a spell in 1st class. @ jdhogg: have to disagree, not many keepers (Prior included), are reliable enough to go in at no.6, and going in with 5 bowlers invariably means that one of them does next to nothing.

  • Rocket_180 on July 11, 2011, 10:54 GMT

    @ meety you wouldnt pick Bopara over Morgan cause he can bowl abit, so why should you pick Bresnan over Finn cause he can bat abit, only having 4 bowlers we have got to make sure there are best strike bowlers about as you not going to beat India unless you take 20 wickets

    India vs WI Win,Draw,Draw (1-0) India vs SA Lost,Win,Draw (1-1) India vs NZ Draw,Draw,Win (1-0) India vs Aus Win,Win (2-0) India vs SL Lost,Draw,Win (1-1)

    so in 14 test India won 6 drawn 6 lost 2 not a great record really

    Eng vs SL Win,Draw,Draw (1-0) Eng vs Aus Draw,Win,Lost,Win,Win (3-1) Eng vs Pak Win,Lose,Win,Win (3-1) Eng vs Ban Win,Win (2-0)

    so in 14 tests England won 9 draw 3 lost 2

    This just show England are the best side in world cricket in the last 12 months and will turn India over relatively easy, 3-1 i feel, might even be 4-0, but England have got to produce pitches that have pace & bounce, home pitches in home conditions, just like you get around the rest of the world

  • DaddyDickFingers on July 11, 2011, 9:56 GMT

    Broad should be sent back to county cricket as his bowling radar is broken.. He explores the middle of the pitch far too and tries to be an aggressor when really he is not taking the wickets to chat that much... He needs to find his rhythm again and get back on line and length, when he does that he is a good bowler. Just ask the Aussies from the Oval 2009.. He tore them to shreds with good line and length.. Since then Broad has lost the plot bowling wise, trying too many things... I also think Pietersen should be sent back to county cricket again, and have to earn his place back. The guy does not have the hunger, he is too complacent of his England place. It worked for Bell so Pietersen should be no exception to this, just because he can be box office on his day... Summary Bresnan for Broad & Pietersen should be on his last rights before being sent back to the county game

  • Bearded_Lefty on July 11, 2011, 9:41 GMT

    Rocket180

    Spot on. If a team plays 4 bowlers they cannot afford any passengers. Those four must be the very best four available. At the moment that does not include Broad as Finn and Bresnan are ahead of him. Onions, if fit, is probably slightly ahead too. I personally think Broad should be sent off to Nottinghamshire to bat at 7 and be their best seam bowler, it could do him the world of good.

    Also agree that concocting a 3 or 4 day game would help the players get some overs, or a quick loan. Essex would be willing to take them for a game i'm sure

  • jdhogg on July 11, 2011, 7:36 GMT

    If I'm honest I think England field 1 too many batsmen and that's why they are always worrying about balance. Prior is a really good test batsman and Bresnan is pretty decent with the bat. Broad will come good. Team should be Strauss, Cook, Trott, Pieterson, Bell, Prior, Bresnan, Broad, Swann, Anderson and Tremlett. 12th man Morgan/Finn. May seem hard on Morgan but they are top heavy which is why more often then not taking wickets is the problem, not having too little runs. Finn's wickets are similar to what Broad used to get, people smashing him around and holing out. I can't seem him being as effective as Broad againts India.

  • bumsonseats on July 11, 2011, 7:32 GMT

    broad was not selected from a pool of players selected as a 1 day squad selected to play against SL, he was not dropped. as to the tests starting against India we can selected any pace bowlers 3 from 6/7. if broad is selected then so be it selectors are paid to pick the team. dpk

  • Winsome on July 11, 2011, 6:46 GMT

    Considering how long Broad has been playing test cricket for, his stats are pretty ordinary. Bresnan has been bowling very well since the Aus summer. I would think that even if Broad starts the series, he will have to take wickets in the first match or he will be out.

  • BigGeorgeMehemood on July 11, 2011, 5:10 GMT

    Bresnan is Malcolm Marshall'; dat boy can bowl a ball!

  • landl47 on July 11, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Anderson and Tremlett will definitely be in the side (barring injury) so if England go with a 4-man attack, there's only one place up for grabs. Bresnan is bowling pretty well and is a more consistent bat than Broad. Broad needs to get his role sorted out; he has the advantage of being the quickest of the England bowlers, but bowling short rarely gets top-class batsmen out, as Broad found against Sri Lanka. If he can take a spell back in County cricket and work on bowling a full length and getting wickets, he'll be back very soon. After all, Anderson and Tremlett both had spells out of the England side and Swann had to wait until he was 29 to get a chance. Finn doesn't bat well and is really too much like Tremlett lite to be worth a place at the moment, though he's a fine young prospect. I haven't seen Onions do anything Bresnan can't do and Onions doesn't bat nearly as well. It's great that there is real competition for places- not many countries can say that.

  • Meety on July 11, 2011, 2:04 GMT

    @A_Vacant_Slip - from an Ozzy point of view, I always maintained that your lot wouldn't of won the Ashes with Finn & Broad. I never expected Tremlett (particularly) & Bresnan to be that much better then them! Bresnan (from a smaller sample base), is a better batsmen then Broad too! Personally think its a no-brainer, pace attack should be Anderson, Tremlett & Bresnan. Although from 12 tests Finn's stats are very good, IMO think he'll go backwards.

  • Meety on July 10, 2011, 23:54 GMT

    @Rocket180 - statistically (bowling wise) - Broad is inferior to Bresnan & Finn by a long way, he doesn't even average 3 wickets a test & a S/R of 69 over a fair base is almost part timer level. Personally I think Bresnan is the man as I can't shake a belief that Finn will ultimately come undone (worst run up I've seen in ages) - although he is stats wise far & away the best bowler England have had in decades. Bresnan's other advantage over Finn is he is a better batsmen, (& fieldsman), & would better fill the allrounder role that Broad occupies.

  • nair_ottappalam on July 10, 2011, 23:50 GMT

    Bresnan will be a better choice ahead of Broad. England made the right choice by dropping Braod inthe final ODI against Sri Lanka. I hope England will work positvely to continue their winning run.

  • allblue on July 10, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    The question that never had to be answered is: but for his injury, would Bresnan have kept his place in the side for the Sri Lanka series? He came in and did so well for the last two Tests in Australia I don't think he would have been dropped, meaning that Broad would have started the season with Notts. I think that Anderson, Tremlett, Bresnan looks to be a better balanced attack, perhaps Broad would be better off spending a bit of time back at his county to get his mojo back with both bat and ball.

  • A_Vacant_Slip on July 10, 2011, 22:04 GMT

    This is hard for me to say - but we did better in The Ashes after Broad & Finn were gone and Tremlett & Bresnan came in. Wash my mouth out with soap, but I think England should keep with Bresnan. Tremlett is nailed on and he will TERRIFY the Indians. Scares me just to think about Tremlett....Phew!.. & Bresnan was brilliant @Melbourne - Aus couldn't score a run, whereas Broad and Finn are always likely to leak a few runs and release pressure. Really tricky this - but IMO Bresnan is the better pick at the moment.

  • subbass on July 10, 2011, 21:29 GMT

    I think Broad will come good for the India series, don't forget he has had to come back from injury a lot lately, and the side strain that sent him home early from the Ashes, was a particularly bad one, and, he has at times bowled well with no luck whatsoever. So you do have to bare that in mind, plus factor in that he is just the 3rd best bowler not the 1st or the 2nd, so perhaps people expect too much from him.

    Broad is a quality performer on his day, sure he needs to do it more consistently but he can be a match winner with the ball and sometimes even with the bat.

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    We have England players that dont have 4 day matches that they can play in before the 1st test, so surely it would of made sense for a England side full of test players that havent a county game or future stars to play a 4 day game against a England lions side to get England back in the test match groove again, rather than having Strauss playing for Somerset and Finn not playing for example

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    Broads name shouldnt even be included for the squad for the 1st test against India, there is no way that he is England 3rd best seam bowler, its about time England start to show faith in there younger players, Finn who regualry takes wickets should be in and should stay in for the whole series as he is a wicket taker and a great talent for the future and deserve the chance to devlop in the team as he a massive threat in the test arena

    Englands bowling unit for whole series against India should be Swann, Anderson, Tremlett & Finn

    Bresnan should be 4th choice, with Onions 5th with Broad 6th

    England already have 7 batsman, withthis in mind they should be picking there 4 bowlers with runs in mind, if they can bat its a bonus, but with only 4 bowlers you ahve got pick your best strike bowlers and Andeson, Tremlett & Finn are regualr wicket takers

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  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 19:16 GMT

    Broads name shouldnt even be included for the squad for the 1st test against India, there is no way that he is England 3rd best seam bowler, its about time England start to show faith in there younger players, Finn who regualry takes wickets should be in and should stay in for the whole series as he is a wicket taker and a great talent for the future and deserve the chance to devlop in the team as he a massive threat in the test arena

    Englands bowling unit for whole series against India should be Swann, Anderson, Tremlett & Finn

    Bresnan should be 4th choice, with Onions 5th with Broad 6th

    England already have 7 batsman, withthis in mind they should be picking there 4 bowlers with runs in mind, if they can bat its a bonus, but with only 4 bowlers you ahve got pick your best strike bowlers and Andeson, Tremlett & Finn are regualr wicket takers

  • Rocket_180 on July 10, 2011, 19:20 GMT

    We have England players that dont have 4 day matches that they can play in before the 1st test, so surely it would of made sense for a England side full of test players that havent a county game or future stars to play a 4 day game against a England lions side to get England back in the test match groove again, rather than having Strauss playing for Somerset and Finn not playing for example

  • subbass on July 10, 2011, 21:29 GMT

    I think Broad will come good for the India series, don't forget he has had to come back from injury a lot lately, and the side strain that sent him home early from the Ashes, was a particularly bad one, and, he has at times bowled well with no luck whatsoever. So you do have to bare that in mind, plus factor in that he is just the 3rd best bowler not the 1st or the 2nd, so perhaps people expect too much from him.

    Broad is a quality performer on his day, sure he needs to do it more consistently but he can be a match winner with the ball and sometimes even with the bat.

  • A_Vacant_Slip on July 10, 2011, 22:04 GMT

    This is hard for me to say - but we did better in The Ashes after Broad & Finn were gone and Tremlett & Bresnan came in. Wash my mouth out with soap, but I think England should keep with Bresnan. Tremlett is nailed on and he will TERRIFY the Indians. Scares me just to think about Tremlett....Phew!.. & Bresnan was brilliant @Melbourne - Aus couldn't score a run, whereas Broad and Finn are always likely to leak a few runs and release pressure. Really tricky this - but IMO Bresnan is the better pick at the moment.

  • allblue on July 10, 2011, 22:08 GMT

    The question that never had to be answered is: but for his injury, would Bresnan have kept his place in the side for the Sri Lanka series? He came in and did so well for the last two Tests in Australia I don't think he would have been dropped, meaning that Broad would have started the season with Notts. I think that Anderson, Tremlett, Bresnan looks to be a better balanced attack, perhaps Broad would be better off spending a bit of time back at his county to get his mojo back with both bat and ball.

  • nair_ottappalam on July 10, 2011, 23:50 GMT

    Bresnan will be a better choice ahead of Broad. England made the right choice by dropping Braod inthe final ODI against Sri Lanka. I hope England will work positvely to continue their winning run.

  • Meety on July 10, 2011, 23:54 GMT

    @Rocket180 - statistically (bowling wise) - Broad is inferior to Bresnan & Finn by a long way, he doesn't even average 3 wickets a test & a S/R of 69 over a fair base is almost part timer level. Personally I think Bresnan is the man as I can't shake a belief that Finn will ultimately come undone (worst run up I've seen in ages) - although he is stats wise far & away the best bowler England have had in decades. Bresnan's other advantage over Finn is he is a better batsmen, (& fieldsman), & would better fill the allrounder role that Broad occupies.

  • Meety on July 11, 2011, 2:04 GMT

    @A_Vacant_Slip - from an Ozzy point of view, I always maintained that your lot wouldn't of won the Ashes with Finn & Broad. I never expected Tremlett (particularly) & Bresnan to be that much better then them! Bresnan (from a smaller sample base), is a better batsmen then Broad too! Personally think its a no-brainer, pace attack should be Anderson, Tremlett & Bresnan. Although from 12 tests Finn's stats are very good, IMO think he'll go backwards.

  • landl47 on July 11, 2011, 4:34 GMT

    Anderson and Tremlett will definitely be in the side (barring injury) so if England go with a 4-man attack, there's only one place up for grabs. Bresnan is bowling pretty well and is a more consistent bat than Broad. Broad needs to get his role sorted out; he has the advantage of being the quickest of the England bowlers, but bowling short rarely gets top-class batsmen out, as Broad found against Sri Lanka. If he can take a spell back in County cricket and work on bowling a full length and getting wickets, he'll be back very soon. After all, Anderson and Tremlett both had spells out of the England side and Swann had to wait until he was 29 to get a chance. Finn doesn't bat well and is really too much like Tremlett lite to be worth a place at the moment, though he's a fine young prospect. I haven't seen Onions do anything Bresnan can't do and Onions doesn't bat nearly as well. It's great that there is real competition for places- not many countries can say that.

  • BigGeorgeMehemood on July 11, 2011, 5:10 GMT

    Bresnan is Malcolm Marshall'; dat boy can bowl a ball!