England news January 14, 2013

Trott warns against trying to 'recreate history' in Australia

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England batsman Jonathan Trott has said the team shouldn't try to recreate history when they visit Australia next winter.

"It will be important to hopefully retain the Ashes over here, but then go to Australia and not try to emulate what happened," Trott said, speaking to Alison Mitchell on ESPNcricinfo.

"Try to do it again based on what we did last time, I think that would be quite dangerous. I don't think there's one recipe for everything. We need to go there and see how it goes, and who knows, try to win even more than before, not try to recreate history but just do it in its own way and set standards for ourselves."

England have a big year ahead, with two Ashes series within six months of each other, five Tests against New Zealand (three away and two home) and a Champions Trophy at home. They are currently No. 2 in the ICC Test rankings, just five points below South Africa.

Trott, who scored a hundred and a half-century in England's historic Test series win in India, has been rested from the ongoing one-day series. He backed Ashley Giles, his former Warwickshire coach, to do well in his role as England's limited-overs coach, and said he was the "best man for the job".

"He's done his years with Warwickshire and learnt about being a coach," Trott said of Giles. "I think it can be quite tricky coming straight from being a player to being a coach. He knows the lines between being a mate and being a coach, and what's expected of you and what's expected of himself. So I think the English team of the future, in one-day cricket, is looking pretty good. There's a lot of one-day cricket, another Champions Trophy - something we want to really do well in."

Trott credited Giles with helping him regain his focus while at Warwickshire and getting him ready for Test cricket. "He had a lot of experience to draw on from what happened in his career - media, pressure, and getting the most out of his talent. He probably saw me as a guy not doing things quite right and could probably do better. He sat me down and said, 'I think you're going about your business in the wrong fashion, maybe tinker with a few things here and there.'"

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  • POSTED BY landl47 on | January 14, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    Series between Australia and England are always tough. I think England is a touch stronger at the moment; England has more experienced players in all areas. However, Aus has a bunch of good young quick bowlers and bowlers win matches. Form and fitness going into the tests will be vital, too.

    It's far too early to call for either side.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 16, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    @davidpk on (January 15 2013, 15:41 PM GMT) - I would much rather Swann taking wickets than Anderson, Finn or Broad & for pride purposes KP or Trott! BTW - apart from the odd chuckle, I have ZERO association with good old Randy. But for some strange reason I rate his posts higher than Front Foot Lunge or Hhillbumper or Milhouse the 16yr old!

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | January 15, 2013, 15:41 GMT

    meety like your observation that if swans bowling the batters have done their job and a good score would be the result. us guys make cricket a very simple game you still in the uk with randy

  • POSTED BY whensdrinks on | January 15, 2013, 2:26 GMT

    Cant wait to see Australia play the Commonwealth Invitational IX - sorry, England. But I can't see the Aussies winning either the home or abroad series, their batting is as weak as I have seen for 30 years. We would have to go back to the mid 1980's to find as poor a line up as our current top 6.

    There aren't that many outstanding players in the Sheffield shield either. It doesn't seem that long ago when we had class players like Hodge, Love, Katich, D Hussey, Jaques, Rogers etc that couldn't get a test because they weren't good enough. All would walk into the team now if they had been born 5 to 10 years later.

    It all goes in cycles, you can't be top for ever and nearly 2 decades as either the best or second best team is amazing in hindsight.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 15, 2013, 1:37 GMT

    @Shaggy076 on (January 14 2013, 11:15 AM GMT) - well said. It should be a lot closer than what some Pommy fans are thinking. England have to start favourites, although their form is patchy (to say the least), in 2012. I think that Husseys retirement means that England have a clear advantage in their batting line up, although there is still several slots, not bedded down. They have a big advantage in spin-bowling, & I have noticed some talk (Lord Dexter) stating that England should prepare spin wickets for Panesar & Swann to play on. That would suggest to me, that some knowledgable Pommy chaps are VERY wary of our pace stocks. I think the key for Oz to win the series is to post decent 1st innings totals, do that & we will be competitive throughout a match & series. If Swann is taking wickets against us, then our batsmen have pretty much done their job & seen off the pace attack & we should get a good total.

  • POSTED BY VB_Andy on | January 15, 2013, 1:19 GMT

    We (Australia) are looking down the barrell of a hammering in England, I have no doubt. Our batting lineup is far from settled and the top order is flakky. Clarke will be continually expected to score huge totals and mount a rescue, probably being exposed to the new ball. England will target Clarke and try to take him down cheaply. Personally, he looks in excellent nick, and mentally tougher than at any other time so it could well raise his stature as a leader. Usman and one or two others should have been settling into this side well before now.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 14, 2013, 23:04 GMT

    SamuelH - In the first innings in Perth he got a ripper that most batsman would get out too. I think Steyn is the only player capable of bowling that ball. He palyed the pace well in the second innings. He has played 15 tests against Anderson, out 6 times averaging over 50 in those games so I wouldnt say Anderson has been all over him. He had a poor series in Australia last time where Anderson did the most damage. His career record states that he is a better player now than the player that averages 50 against England but we will see.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | January 14, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    @Shaggy - Anderson ate him alive in the last Ashes swinging the Kookaburra away from him and the minute the ball finally started swinging for South Africa in Perth he promptly stopped scoring. It is a weakness in his game England can look to exploit.

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | January 14, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    @158no, Eng have certainly struggled to fill the 6 berth since PC retired. Hopefully Root will end up being the answer but only time will tell. As for Aus you would think they will have a similar problem now Hussey has retired, you could argue they struggle to fill the 1,2,3 & 4 spots as well! although maybe im being a bit hard on Warner who has actually done surprisingly well so far.

  • POSTED BY skilebow on | January 14, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    I think Australia can cause England problems but England have the better players and over 5 tests will win comfortably

  • POSTED BY landl47 on | January 14, 2013, 5:37 GMT

    Series between Australia and England are always tough. I think England is a touch stronger at the moment; England has more experienced players in all areas. However, Aus has a bunch of good young quick bowlers and bowlers win matches. Form and fitness going into the tests will be vital, too.

    It's far too early to call for either side.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 16, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    @davidpk on (January 15 2013, 15:41 PM GMT) - I would much rather Swann taking wickets than Anderson, Finn or Broad & for pride purposes KP or Trott! BTW - apart from the odd chuckle, I have ZERO association with good old Randy. But for some strange reason I rate his posts higher than Front Foot Lunge or Hhillbumper or Milhouse the 16yr old!

  • POSTED BY bumsonseats on | January 15, 2013, 15:41 GMT

    meety like your observation that if swans bowling the batters have done their job and a good score would be the result. us guys make cricket a very simple game you still in the uk with randy

  • POSTED BY whensdrinks on | January 15, 2013, 2:26 GMT

    Cant wait to see Australia play the Commonwealth Invitational IX - sorry, England. But I can't see the Aussies winning either the home or abroad series, their batting is as weak as I have seen for 30 years. We would have to go back to the mid 1980's to find as poor a line up as our current top 6.

    There aren't that many outstanding players in the Sheffield shield either. It doesn't seem that long ago when we had class players like Hodge, Love, Katich, D Hussey, Jaques, Rogers etc that couldn't get a test because they weren't good enough. All would walk into the team now if they had been born 5 to 10 years later.

    It all goes in cycles, you can't be top for ever and nearly 2 decades as either the best or second best team is amazing in hindsight.

  • POSTED BY Meety on | January 15, 2013, 1:37 GMT

    @Shaggy076 on (January 14 2013, 11:15 AM GMT) - well said. It should be a lot closer than what some Pommy fans are thinking. England have to start favourites, although their form is patchy (to say the least), in 2012. I think that Husseys retirement means that England have a clear advantage in their batting line up, although there is still several slots, not bedded down. They have a big advantage in spin-bowling, & I have noticed some talk (Lord Dexter) stating that England should prepare spin wickets for Panesar & Swann to play on. That would suggest to me, that some knowledgable Pommy chaps are VERY wary of our pace stocks. I think the key for Oz to win the series is to post decent 1st innings totals, do that & we will be competitive throughout a match & series. If Swann is taking wickets against us, then our batsmen have pretty much done their job & seen off the pace attack & we should get a good total.

  • POSTED BY VB_Andy on | January 15, 2013, 1:19 GMT

    We (Australia) are looking down the barrell of a hammering in England, I have no doubt. Our batting lineup is far from settled and the top order is flakky. Clarke will be continually expected to score huge totals and mount a rescue, probably being exposed to the new ball. England will target Clarke and try to take him down cheaply. Personally, he looks in excellent nick, and mentally tougher than at any other time so it could well raise his stature as a leader. Usman and one or two others should have been settling into this side well before now.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 14, 2013, 23:04 GMT

    SamuelH - In the first innings in Perth he got a ripper that most batsman would get out too. I think Steyn is the only player capable of bowling that ball. He palyed the pace well in the second innings. He has played 15 tests against Anderson, out 6 times averaging over 50 in those games so I wouldnt say Anderson has been all over him. He had a poor series in Australia last time where Anderson did the most damage. His career record states that he is a better player now than the player that averages 50 against England but we will see.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | January 14, 2013, 20:03 GMT

    @Shaggy - Anderson ate him alive in the last Ashes swinging the Kookaburra away from him and the minute the ball finally started swinging for South Africa in Perth he promptly stopped scoring. It is a weakness in his game England can look to exploit.

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | January 14, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    @158no, Eng have certainly struggled to fill the 6 berth since PC retired. Hopefully Root will end up being the answer but only time will tell. As for Aus you would think they will have a similar problem now Hussey has retired, you could argue they struggle to fill the 1,2,3 & 4 spots as well! although maybe im being a bit hard on Warner who has actually done surprisingly well so far.

  • POSTED BY skilebow on | January 14, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    I think Australia can cause England problems but England have the better players and over 5 tests will win comfortably

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | January 14, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    @Wefinishthis, Bird has played 2 tests & done quite well against a struggling & somewhat depleted SRL batting line up. At this stage how can you honestly see him being the difference between the 2 bowling attacks? The truth is with so many options he may not even make the squad let alone the team. He almost certainly will go to Ind & if he plays there on unresponsive surfaces and struggles he might well find that he slips down the pecking order and if injures start to clear up he could find himself out of the frame for the ashes trip. If fit you would imagine Siddle & Pattinson would be almost certain starters then Bird is just one of 5 or 6 others who could fill the 3rd seamer role.

  • POSTED BY SirViv1973 on | January 14, 2013, 19:17 GMT

    As an Eng fan I can say with confidence we have the better batters & spin options but our seamers are worrying me a little. Anderson is a class act & for me the best seamer available to either side, but there are question marks over the rest of our pace battey. SF(if fit) is the other certain starter but he's had a lot of injures recently & although I rate him highly he has been a bit expensive at times in his test career so far.SB would still be fav for the 3rd slot but again is getting injured too much & seems to have lost a yard since he came back early from the UAE last yr, the 6 mths prior to that he was up there with the best in the world. After a great start TB has lost his way a bit & has looked pretty ineffective recently. GO has much to prove has record is decent but for me the jury is still out on him. CT is also returning from serious injury & it remains to be seen if he can get back to the being the bowler he was 2 or 3 yrs ago. SM doesn't look ready 4 an ashes series yet

  • POSTED BY thebatsmansHoldingthebowlersWilley on | January 14, 2013, 16:26 GMT

    The rookie Aussie batsmen will really struggle against the swing and seam in English conditions. Anderson will be all over Cowan and Warner like a rash. Cowan is simply not test class. Hughes and Warner can be dangerous if they hang around long enough. Even Clarke, who is obviously a quality batsman, has struggled against the swinging ball. I'm looking forward to seeing how the new generation of Aussie quicks perform but I think the English batting line-up is far too strong. It'll end up 3-0 or 4-0 in England. If they take a severe beating in England the young Aussies will struggle to raise their game for the return leg down under. The Aussies quicks might do well at Perth with the extra bounce but i'd back England to perform better there this time round.

  • POSTED BY Shan156 on | January 14, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    @Vishnu27, it is all fine to produce pitches aiding pacemen against SL and India but not against England but we have the better pace attack. Definitely, the more fit attack. Anderson would be licking his lips having to bowl at that lot of so-called batsmen. And the less said about your so-called spinner, the better. But, before your lot gets caned by us, there is India waiting for you. Many of the Aussie fans discounted England's win in India saying India was a mediocre side. Let's see who is the mediocre side in couple of months.

  • POSTED BY class9ryan on | January 14, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    England side with d experience and ability of Cook, Pietersen, Trott and Bell may look the favorites for retaining d ashes but u never know with d Aussie pace attack . Looking forward 2 d artistry of Anderson and the magic of Finn in the Ashes

  • POSTED BY RedRoseMan on | January 14, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    To get a pragmatic view of the likely outcome of the forthcoming Ashes series in England you could do a lot worse than look at the betting odds. The best odds that I can find on an England win are 3/5 (Aus 10/3). In the best batsman stakes Cook tops the pile with KP second and Clarke third. In the best bowler stakes no Australian features in the top three (Anderson, Swann, Finn).

    Seem to be some great betting value opportunities for those calling an Australian win who clearly know better than the bookmakers!

  • POSTED BY Front-Foot-Lunge on | January 14, 2013, 13:43 GMT

    No doubt this will be a testing Ashes, isn't every one. No doubt England are the better team, as has been for five long years now. No doubt posters like jonesy and Randy will be absent from this particular discussion because however you try to spin it, the English are the superior team with superior players. Sporting contests always start on a level playing field. In English cricket, with overcast conditions and seaming wickets (not so much in the last decade mind), the state of a match on days 1&2 can often be different on the days 4 & 5. Just line these two teams up on paper though, as some posters cannot bring themselves to do: Cook - Undisputed Best Test Opener in the World. Swann, biggest turner of the ball, Anderson - whether it's a flat deck or green top he's the long proved master. Prior - Best wicket keeper batsmen. The list goes on. The Aussies know they start behind.

  • POSTED BY Harlequin. on | January 14, 2013, 13:32 GMT

    Its all gonna be about the injuries in the bowling chaps (and chapettes), especially for the Aussie series. One or two injuries to the likes of Jimmy, Finn, Pattinson, Siddle could be disastrous. Though barring this, England hold the advantage at home I think, the Aussie top 5 may all be able to contribute 50's (except MC) but the England top 5 are the ones more likely to score big tons. In Australia, the Aussie bats are more likely to be able to turn these 50's into 100's, so I think that series will be closer. My predictions: in Eng, 3-1. In Aus 2-2

  • POSTED BY Chris_P on | January 14, 2013, 12:42 GMT

    @Ian Jones . I don't mind you taing the mickey out of us but 9 out of our top 10 tennis players born overseas? Try 4 & all of them came to Australia before they were 5, meaning they learnt their tennis in Australia. 1 out of 10?!!! Makes intersting reading if nothing else. BTW, Both Khawaja & Symonds also arrived here before they were 5, ergo learnt under the Aussie system. not overseas. BTW, One tennis player in the top 200 hardly makes it a ringing endoresemnt for your tennis structure.

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 14, 2013, 12:41 GMT

    SamuelH: isn't that exactly what a certain Glenn McGrath did? How come he had so much success against you lot?

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 14, 2013, 12:37 GMT

    Mitch1066: did you just make that up? Perhaps, around 200 years ago!

  • POSTED BY Vishnu27 on | January 14, 2013, 12:32 GMT

    To all the cock-a-hoop England supporters posting here: do you think you'll get another flattened, water drenched, post-flood-of-a-lifetime 'Gabba this time around? A flat "Gabba pitch like that I doubt will ever be seen again. Have you seen how the MCG pitch just played in the SL test? Broken hands & battered SL bodies, SL batsmen constantly ducking & diving & a very abbreviated test match. You know what Perth will be like & history very clearly says you lot do not like the rapid rising ball. I think you can definitely expect similar experiences next summer at the "Gabba & the "G, & of course the WACA will hold all its familiar "charms". With our revived bowling attack it might not quite be the rout you're all counting on. That is unless you lot have suddenly mastered the short ball. In England, England are definitely out & out favourites. Though I'm certain we'll we will show improvement & surprise a few. Bird is a must over there & will go well.

  • POSTED BY StaalBurgher on | January 14, 2013, 12:28 GMT

    @Jayzuz - Agreed. Either team can win.

  • POSTED BY cloudmess on | January 14, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    It's lovely how we beat Australia down under for the first time in 25 years, and immediately we're having a re-contest not 4, but for 3 years later. If Australia lose again, they'll probably bar us from leaving the country until they finally win.

  • POSTED BY on | January 14, 2013, 12:06 GMT

    SCC - so your forgetting all the foreign born players to have played for Australia? Including Khawaja, Symonds, etc? What about all your Tennis Stars? Only Hewitt of the top 10 "Aussie" players actually born in Oz!!

  • POSTED BY Jayzuz on | January 14, 2013, 12:05 GMT

    I wonder if some of these English fans who have already declared victory have actually bothered to note that Australia's win/loss record in tests has been significantly better than England's since the last Ashes series. Did you bother to note that Australia performed far, far better against SA recently? Or hasn't that quite registered yet? Predicting a victory on the profound logic that "the ball swings in England so Australian batsmen won't score runs" is pretty dodgy thinking to build one's dreams upon. Warner won't make 20 all series, is the common call. Are you so certain about that? What if the summer is extra dry (just as it was the wettest summer in a century when England toured Australia last time - the 1st test ENG vs SA was dry as a bone, and look what happened there). That kind of luck does tend to run in cycles. In the end gloating of expected victory is all just p..s and wind. Bring on the games: that's all that matters.

  • POSTED BY on | January 14, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    4-1 England in England then 3-1 England in Australia. Australia will be lucky not to get whitewashed.

  • POSTED BY SCC08 on | January 14, 2013, 11:54 GMT

    Jackiethepen.. Um, think you wrong. "They broke into the county scene". If they decided and then chose to go to Eng as you so put it then why are there scouts in SA? Why are contracts being given in the past to SA players stating that they would have to qualify for Eng? Fact: English cricket wouldn't be where it is today without the Saffa players. No Ashes and T20 WC. Least Aus plays with Aus players. Try winning the Ashes with English players.... Never!

  • POSTED BY Rabbito on | January 14, 2013, 11:40 GMT

    Actually @Claydo78, i agree with you, i was just looking for a reaction, from some self confident english fans!!!...(not saying thats you) but i do honestly rate him massively, as i think anyone should seeing his second innings performance againts SA, and although its only one game, i think it still counts for something. But i agree that he needs to spend the majority of the next year or 18 months playing shield, and maybe the occasional test. and his injurys are frustrating, but i still rekon he will be one freak of a bowler by the time he's 22+....

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 14, 2013, 11:15 GMT

    I think this series will be a lot closer than the English fans think although rightly England will start favourites. The last tour of England, the Aussies dominated the stats with bat and ball but unfortunately just couldnt get the victory in Cardiff which would have drawn the series. Since this series the English have lost Flintoff, Harmison and Strauss. THe Aaussies have lost M Hussey and Clarke. The last Australian tour was still drawn after 3 games and the English dominated the last two games, besides Paul Collingwood and Swann every English player seemed to have career best series, whilst for Australia really only Hussey, Harris and Watson could claim to having decent series. Since this series both teams form have not been duplicated the Australians have steadily improved and the English have declined somewhat. Cant wait for both series as I reckon the Aussies are going to give it a good shake.

  • POSTED BY Selassie-I on | January 14, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Ahhh... so the Ashes banter begins, excellent!

    @ Rabbito - I don't see how he can have nightmares about bowlers that he's probably never even heard of. If anyone is having Nightmares it will be Siddle, MJ and Hilfenhouse about spending days in the field bowling to Cookie and Trott.

    The one thing to Aus' benefit is that they have such a large group of seamers that have been tested over the last year that we're going to have trouble to know who to prepare for in training. Please let it be Mitch Johnson!

    I have to admit their bowlign is looking okay, but Aus just can't compete in the batting, after Huss' departure, there is only Clarke that would actually get in the England team, or any other test nation's team.

  • POSTED BY 158notout on | January 14, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    meursault - we tried that tactic last time, played two spinners at Cardiff. What happened? hung on for a draw by the skin of our teeth.

  • POSTED BY jackiethepen on | January 14, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    I think it is time to drop remarks about Prior as if South Africa had any right to his services. It is just ignorant. Prior came to England as a boy. Bell and Prior have been friends since childhood. They played together as 12-year-olds for England youth team and have been always in the system nurtured by English coaching. Strauss and Hussain also came to England as boys and were brought up here. Trott and KP came to England as young men and made a conscious decision to break into County cricket. They would have been eligible to play for South Africa and it says a great deal for South African cricket that so many fine players are being produced. But both owe their international careers to their development in English County cricket. England is their adopted country.

  • POSTED BY 158notout on | January 14, 2013, 10:40 GMT

    The weakness that both England and Australia have is filling the number 6 spot, with neither side having someone standing up and grabbing the spot - assuming that Watson is not able to stay fit for a 5-test series. If Australia go in with Wade at 6 then they will get hammered. otherwise i can't see the series hinging on it but obviously the team with the more settled line-up will be better placed.

  • POSTED BY Shaggy076 on | January 14, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    SamuelH - Clarke averages over 50 against England in test cricket in England. Not sure he has too may problems with the swinging ball.

  • POSTED BY 158notout on | January 14, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    As an England fan i find these comments from Trott a little be concerning. Whilst I would not want to read any chest-thumping proclamations of whitewashes or suchlike I still read some sort of uncertainty between the lines here. I agree with Rabbito that it seems he has visions of the new Aussie pace battery in his dreams. If they can stay fit then they are the Ausdsie strength, alongside Clarkes captaincy. It's the spin cupboard and top order batting I would be concerned about if I was an Aussie fan. It is obvious that it is not the same Phil Hughes coming over this summer but with him and likely Khawaja trying to cement places in the middle order it could be a problem. I am not sure Warner will have a good tour of England either

    My honest opinion is that England will win the home series 2-1 (perhaps coming back from 1-0 down) but I think the series down under will be far closer and if England draw that series I will be happy with that.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | January 14, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    @Wefinishthis - you'd think Bird would bowl well in England, but you have to remember he's pretty much the English county scene's bread and butter bowler; the brisk seamer with a touch of seam & swing. English batsmen grow up facinga multitude of bowlers like him, so you'd think they'd be better placed to counter him than Sri Lanka, for example.

  • POSTED BY SDHM on | January 14, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    @loudmouth - depends on conditions really. Clarke has always struggled against the swinging ball, so if the Duke starts hooping for Jimmy Anderson, I don't expect him to contribute much. He has batted well in England before though - he got two 100s in 2009 - although the England attack has improved since then. A little bit has been made of Hughes & Khawaja playing over here last year, but in truth neither set the world alight in the Championship, averaging mid-30s. That little bit of experience may help though. Just think England have a bit more going for them - they had a poor 2012 but pulled through in India, and there are less questions to answer about the make-up of the team; opening and no.6 still have to be nailed down but there are plenty of options, and the 3rd seamer's slot is probably up for grabs now too. Just don't think Oz have the batting to win in England, but the series Down Under will be really tight.

  • POSTED BY RednWhiteArmy on | January 14, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    The aussies only really need one thing to beat England, a miracle.

  • POSTED BY Marktc on | January 14, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    I think Oz will be better than England. Good one DickCam...

  • POSTED BY NAP73 on | January 14, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    Prior is a big difference. He keeps nailing runs when a bolwing unit thinks they are getting close to a tail. Pity Saf could not keep him, otherwise they would be so far in front of the Poms that they would never be seen.

  • POSTED BY meursault on | January 14, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    Australia need to find a new leggie that can strike fear into the English bowlers and undermine any attempt to prepare spinning wickets and use the clear English advantage in spin, otherwise they're gone over in England. If it's a cloudy summer, the inexperienced Aussie batters and will get done by swing, if it's a sunny summer (does that ever happen), the English will be able to prepare turners which only their bowlers will be able to take full advantage of.

  • POSTED BY GeoffreysMother on | January 14, 2013, 8:56 GMT

    At the moment Australia are down to one class batsman, Clarke, and he seems to need three or four cannon fodder batmen in front of him to take the shine off the new ball. With 23 'new Glenn Mc Grath's', according to Channel 9, pace bowling may be O.K. but the spin bowling is at best 'honest'.

    Interesting that the rise of 20/20 in India and Australia seems to be parallelled by a decline in spinners ability to work a batsman out rather than contain them and batsmen's ability to play long innings (with the honourable exception it seems of Pujara).

    Expect Cowan to tough it out and Warner and Hughes to 'impose themselves' on the bowlers for ten minutes before knicking to slip. Kahwaja found it hard enough at Derbyshire but may have learnt enough there to survive.

    Still Lyon, reputedly, sings a good song in the Dressing Room, and that may turn the series!

  • POSTED BY Mitch1066 on | January 14, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    Will you guys get off fact sum of the players were born overseas yet played years in England or came thru England system . All our bowlers are English the ones who smashed u. . Plus reality is you Aussies are just mostly English born there lol it funny when u belittle your family places or origin lol

  • POSTED BY loudmouth on | January 14, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    As an Australian supporter it kills me to have to say it will most likely be 3 - 1 to England @ home and 2 - 1 to England in Oz. Jackson Bird looks very promising and Clarke will have a run fest but I have serious doubts over Hughes / Watson / Cowan and Warner scoring big on pitches that swing. I predict a big Australian win in the 2015 Ashes in England when the current crop of players mature.

  • POSTED BY Winsome on | January 14, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    Aus batting in English conditions will be an accident just waiting to happen. Clarke can't do it all. I can't see Aus winning in England by any stretch of the imagination and in Aus, they'll need an awful lot to go their way in terms of keeping a decent attack on the park. I think Trott is wrong though. In terms of batting and bowling they did little wrong in Aus last time, why not try for the same level of play?

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | January 14, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    @Rabbito LOL Oh yes I bet he's really scared, we saw what they had to offer as far as pace and intimidation when they came over for the one day series and tbh talk about hype.

    @Icyman The funny thing is by the time it does comes around chances are you may well have been rolled over by the Indians and any confidence you may think you've got will be well and truly gone.

  • POSTED BY DickCam on | January 14, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    Poms will need to import a few more Saffas to beat Oz at home next year.

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | January 14, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    Reading an article by Geoff Lawson I think it was and he was saying that Oz would be nuts to take the likes of Harris, Pattinson and Cummins to England and he backed it up with numbers about how much they've been injured and how few first class games they've played the past couple of year, even as an England fan it was quite an eye opener but on the other hand I say bring them over it's an accident waiting to happen. Fact is they've got an absolute rank batting line up, especially in English conditions and a bowling line up that seems to have at least one bowler break down each test, I mean there could be a chance that Oz will line up with the same attack that played in the last Ashes, that will be fun to watch.

  • POSTED BY Claydo78 on | January 14, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    Rabbito, why do you rate cummins so much? I can understand pattinson because he has the wickets to prove he is a good bowler but cummins has played 1test in the better part of a year and a half ago and done nothing but get injuried since! Cummins shouldnt be any where near the international team in any format; if this bloke is so good let him prove it by taking wickets for new south wales! Im guess is that all that would do is prove just how ordinary a bowler he is, australia has better bowlers then cummins

  • POSTED BY Wefinishthis on | January 14, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    I think Bird will be key. If he keeps his consistency going, he will dominate and Australia will win, that's still a big IF though. Combined with Pattinson, Harris, Cummins and an in-form Siddle, I think the English will finally get a viable opposition again providing the selectors don't have a brain explosion and bring back 'haus, Johnson and Beer.

  • POSTED BY Icyman on | January 14, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    I think the Poms are on a high after having won a Test series +1 ODI in India. By the time the Ashes come, they will be done and dusted with.

  • POSTED BY Rabbito on | January 14, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    by the looks of it, i think hes already experienceing nightmare visions of pat cummins and james pattinson steaming in at him!!....still...don't blame him...

  • POSTED BY tdobbo on | January 14, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    Heath, mate you must surely be delusional if you think the Aussie rabbles will beat England. They will get an absolute hiding in England and more of the same in the next series.

  • POSTED BY heathrf1974 on | January 14, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    I think England will retain the Ashes in a few months time. But hopefully we could regain it when the English play the Aussies in Australia.

  • POSTED BY heathrf1974 on | January 14, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    I think England will retain the Ashes in a few months time. But hopefully we could regain it when the English play the Aussies in Australia.

  • POSTED BY tdobbo on | January 14, 2013, 5:52 GMT

    Heath, mate you must surely be delusional if you think the Aussie rabbles will beat England. They will get an absolute hiding in England and more of the same in the next series.

  • POSTED BY Rabbito on | January 14, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    by the looks of it, i think hes already experienceing nightmare visions of pat cummins and james pattinson steaming in at him!!....still...don't blame him...

  • POSTED BY Icyman on | January 14, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    I think the Poms are on a high after having won a Test series +1 ODI in India. By the time the Ashes come, they will be done and dusted with.

  • POSTED BY Wefinishthis on | January 14, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    I think Bird will be key. If he keeps his consistency going, he will dominate and Australia will win, that's still a big IF though. Combined with Pattinson, Harris, Cummins and an in-form Siddle, I think the English will finally get a viable opposition again providing the selectors don't have a brain explosion and bring back 'haus, Johnson and Beer.

  • POSTED BY Claydo78 on | January 14, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    Rabbito, why do you rate cummins so much? I can understand pattinson because he has the wickets to prove he is a good bowler but cummins has played 1test in the better part of a year and a half ago and done nothing but get injuried since! Cummins shouldnt be any where near the international team in any format; if this bloke is so good let him prove it by taking wickets for new south wales! Im guess is that all that would do is prove just how ordinary a bowler he is, australia has better bowlers then cummins

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | January 14, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    Reading an article by Geoff Lawson I think it was and he was saying that Oz would be nuts to take the likes of Harris, Pattinson and Cummins to England and he backed it up with numbers about how much they've been injured and how few first class games they've played the past couple of year, even as an England fan it was quite an eye opener but on the other hand I say bring them over it's an accident waiting to happen. Fact is they've got an absolute rank batting line up, especially in English conditions and a bowling line up that seems to have at least one bowler break down each test, I mean there could be a chance that Oz will line up with the same attack that played in the last Ashes, that will be fun to watch.

  • POSTED BY DickCam on | January 14, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    Poms will need to import a few more Saffas to beat Oz at home next year.

  • POSTED BY Trickstar on | January 14, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    @Rabbito LOL Oh yes I bet he's really scared, we saw what they had to offer as far as pace and intimidation when they came over for the one day series and tbh talk about hype.

    @Icyman The funny thing is by the time it does comes around chances are you may well have been rolled over by the Indians and any confidence you may think you've got will be well and truly gone.

  • POSTED BY Winsome on | January 14, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    Aus batting in English conditions will be an accident just waiting to happen. Clarke can't do it all. I can't see Aus winning in England by any stretch of the imagination and in Aus, they'll need an awful lot to go their way in terms of keeping a decent attack on the park. I think Trott is wrong though. In terms of batting and bowling they did little wrong in Aus last time, why not try for the same level of play?