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Pietersen was being 'honest' - Tremlett

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March 25, 2014

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'Pietersen only voiced his opinion' - Tremlett

Kevin Pietersen looks concerned as Chris Tremlett feels his sore back, Abu Dhabi, January, 24, 2012
Chris Tremlett has come out in support of Kevin Pietersen © Getty Images

Kevin Pietersen was just being "honest" during the heated team meeting in Melbourne, which appeared to play a significant part in his being sacked after the tour of Australia, according to team-mate Chris Tremlett.

After losing the Ashes in Perth, the England players held a meeting among themselves, without the presence of team management, to try and map out a way forward. It has since emerged that Pietersen was among the most forthright at the meeting and the comments made their way back to Andy Flower.

Few confirmed facts are known about the reasons behind Pietersen's sacking due to confidentially clauses on both sides which will expire in October. It is believed that there was not one single incident that led Paul Downton, the managing director of England cricket, into the decision to end Pietersen's international career, but instead a number of smaller issues that built up to make the ECB decide that England's future was better off without him.

Tremlett, who remains a team-mate of Pietersen's at Surrey, said it was a "shame" that the batsman would no longer appear in England colours and hoped he would prove the decision wrong.

"I don't think he did anything wrong apart from voice his opinion," Tremlett said. "We had some honest chats and Kevin is a pretty honest character.

"When times are tough and you're in a squad like that, sometimes people find it hard to express themselves but Kevin isn't one of those people. He's not afraid to say what's going on or to tell it how it is.

"I don't know whether that is why Kevin has been shot down but it is a shame that he isn't able to play for England anymore… hopefully he goes out, scores lots of runs and proves England wrong."

Pietersen will be playing for a Surrey side now coached by his mentor Graham Ford, who believes the county's young batsmen will benefit hugely from playing alongside him.

"When they do get an opportunity to bat with him it will be a masterclass and a great chance to learn," he said.

"He's a good enough player to prove a point in any format. He'll certainly entertain and it will be great for the fans to come down and have a look at him and see just how good he is.

"Unfortunately he's got to move on from international cricket. The news was surprising. I don't really know what went on, but I have known Kevin for a long time and I've always found him to be a very positive individual and I'm sure he's going to be extremely positive in our dressing room.''

Pietersen's sacking was just one of the fall-outs of a horrific Australia tour for England which also brought the end of Flower's time as head coach, included Graeme Swann's mid-series retirement, saw Jonathan Trott return home after the first Test and had Steven Finn's form disappear to such an extent that he could not be selected.

Tremlett, who played the opening Test in Brisbane before carrying drinks for the rest of the series, was just glad when it all ended.

"The mood changed after the third Test," Tremlett said. "Communication wasn't as good as it should have been. It can be tough when you are losing like that and people are panicking; the team was changing all the time.

"Jonathan Trott and Graeme Swann went home before the tour end, so it was the most disjointed tour I've been on. It was a bit of a disaster and I was quite thankful to leave at the end of it."

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Posted by EdGreen on (March 27, 2014, 9:18 GMT)

Chris would have been in those meetings - it shouldn't matter who hates who - you step over the boundary and you're in game mode. The ECB has effectively promoted the guy in charge of possibly the worst england winter season ever (given the quality of players available) - and sacked one of the best players.

It goes beyond 'questions being asked' it should be in the realm of completely rebuilding the culture and staff at the top of the ECB.

Posted by MarkTaffin on (March 27, 2014, 8:39 GMT)

@StJohn on (March 26, 2014, 18:38 GMT)

Quite agree. And I do wonder if the ECB have taken into account the reaction from "supporters" they're going to get when England next take to the field because of this.

With the cackhandedness of their behaviour, I doubt it.

Posted by Jaffa79 on (March 27, 2014, 1:31 GMT)

It is all well and good people stating the facts from the sidelines but do we really know what happened in that dressing room? No! I would say that the fact that Prior, who has the broker in getting KP back into the set up after text gate last time, was so roundly set upon by Kevin and childishly mocked on social media, display KP's lack of class. I know he has given and taken it but the guy has a serious amount of previous! Almost every place he has played, he has clashed with people and been accused of being a bigtime charlie. I suspect that England have had his best years judging by his recent performances and his knee is probably best suited to the hit and giggle stuff these days. Sad it was so acrimonious but actually kudos to England for axing both KP AND Flower. It is all about the team and England, barring the odd result (e,g, last winter!) have been successful in all formats for the last 10 years through a great team ethic rather than individual flair. Onwards and upwards!

Posted by StJohn on (March 26, 2014, 18:38 GMT)

KPgate continues...

KP may have his flaws, but a professional organisation, whether it's a school, a company or a sports team, simply has to find a way to manage and use its talent. KPgate says more about a woeful failure of management and leadership, with a very strong hint of scapegoatism, than it does about KP himself. Truly dismal stuff from Cook, Flower, Downton, the ECB et al, which, sadly, rather turns me off supporting England.

Posted by   on (March 26, 2014, 12:47 GMT)

kp is the best betsman for england cricket team for ever and the way they played for england and performed is brillant shame to england cricket and allester cook that they lost the best palyer but i still believe that kp wiil coming back for england

Posted by AnthonyNo1 on (March 26, 2014, 8:20 GMT)

Cook is not a good captain and KP should be brought back. This looks like he was sacked for giving an honest opinion which just can't be right.

Posted by   on (March 26, 2014, 6:33 GMT)

If there are players who leaked the supposedly players-only meeting, surely that makes some of them suspect? Leaking a meeting when there is the implication of trust?

Posted by m0se on (March 26, 2014, 0:04 GMT)

Thank god for T20 cricket and IPL that we will still see Pietersen after England. Hopefully in the IPL and Champions League for the next couple of years. Without the rigors of international cricket, I'm sure Pietersen will fade just like Hayden and Symonds did after a few years but at least this year, he will be focused. Will definitely miss Pietersen in ODIs and tests. Hopefully after the iron grip of Andy Flower has eased on English cricket, Pietersen can make a comeback. After the successful World T20 cup for England, his two banishment from English cricket has been right in front of the T20 tournaments. It would be amazing if Pietersen has a dream IPL this year and makes a comeback for England next year and then after being the highest test run getter for England and playing the 2016 World T20 for England, he retires.

Posted by Maroubra_Flyer on (March 25, 2014, 23:55 GMT)

Falling out in teams is actually not that unusual. Rod Marsh & Dennis Lillee gave Kim Hughes a torrid time when he was captain. Warne fell out with Waugh & was no fan of Gilchrist. There was resentment at the chances Taylor had. Border was sending Mc Dermott home from the Ashes & if you think Pietersen is trouble try Greg Matthews (at least Pietersen can play). As regard to my earlier comment I regret the last sentence, but not the sentiment. England became smug & comfortable & thought they just had to turn up in Aus to win. e.g. Botham 5-0 & XYLO 6 mths is NOT spectacular. No Pietersen was hung out to dry to deflect from some poor performances. What happens in house should stay in house, yes Pietersen had form in this area (Strauss), but move on. It actually makes you wonder if individual comments are so stifled in the team, I'm not surprised Pietersen took to texting - venting his frustrations re: Strauss. I think Vaughan gave him an outlet & he needs one Flower didn't - too insecure

Posted by Insightful2013 on (March 25, 2014, 22:04 GMT)

crockit, anyone who wears their heart on their sleeve is easy to manage. KP appears to be an irrepressible chap. This means someone who is less like likely to plot or connive and more likely to be outspoken. You simply take him seriously, since there is little chance of an underlying motive, as you should do to any individual. In England we have specific ways of behaving, especially in higher classes, where cricket managers occupy and the likes of the ECB. Improper expression is frowned upon and passive aggressively dealt with. I grew up in an area of Berkshire where everyone behaved like Audrey Forbes-Hamilton and believe me that's no picnic. They believed they ran the world and I found out later some of them did, literally! Massive estates, Factories and other business interests, in America, Burma, Malaysia and others. They live in a different time and behave accordingly. Completely out of touch. KP would play on Sunday, share a pint, but never be invited to dinner. Sorry.

Posted by TheKeeper on (March 25, 2014, 22:01 GMT)

Let's just wait and see how things turn out by the end of this summer. After the upcoming home tours England management might regret a lot more than just the sacking.

Posted by thephill on (March 25, 2014, 21:55 GMT)

so i guess we know the release date of KP's tell all book then, October 2014!

Posted by SamWintson92 on (March 25, 2014, 21:21 GMT)

Great to see the support of Chris Tremlett for Kevin Pietersen. Trott, Panesar, Collingwood all said positive about KP. Cook definitely has to be stripped off from his captaincy. & KEVIN PIETERSEN SHOULD BE BROUGHT BACK.

Posted by stumpedlloyd on (March 25, 2014, 21:14 GMT)

Well, Chris Tremlett just kissed his English-playing days good-bye. There is no way this is not going to upset the delicate sensibilities of Messrs. Cook and Flower and, together with the ECB, they will react in the only way they know: Get rid of anyone who does not march in lock-step with them. Thanks for the memories, Chris.

Posted by MarkTaffin on (March 25, 2014, 18:38 GMT)

Were these comments made during a Surrey promo video? Yes? Is Tremlett more likely to play with Pietersen than for England, (regardless of the fact that he deserves another go as much as some who'll get one?). Yes. Is it likely that every word from Tremlett on the KP situation and the tour from hell and the implied criticism of Cook and Flower is true? Yes.

Posted by Guhah on (March 25, 2014, 18:35 GMT)

There will no player like KP for england ever. The whole problem with ECB setup is you can't break the rules or question the rules even if the rules are not working. Andy's attitude is clear - "The boss is always right".

They will miss KP in coming Lankan and Indian Series.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (March 25, 2014, 18:21 GMT)

I find this disclosure from Chris Tremlett most interesting. First, CT has no reputation for rocking the boat. I'm sure that he makes a model tourist - supportive of other members of the team and able to deal with his own disappointment when not selected - instance: Perth last winter. So when the big quiet man speaks up, his comments demand our attention and, I'd suggest, need to be taken at face value. There's no sub-plot; he's calling it as he saw it. Of course, the gagging clause that has been put on KP is lifted in October and it is likely that, in the absence of a single incident (like textgate), we will learn much more, but CT is not being disingenuous when he feels that he cannot point to anything in particular that brought the ECB to the point where they called time on KP's sensational career. It may come down to little more than KP being scapegoated - the final irony of a tour when the management failed to accept their responsibility or take any criticism from within.

Posted by   on (March 25, 2014, 18:13 GMT)

You're probably right, manoftheseries. When players dare criticise a cricketing minnow with a huge ego,that's usually what happens. I kind of liked Downton when he was playing, but he's obviously not the person I mistook him for.

Posted by hhillbumper on (March 25, 2014, 18:02 GMT)

KP has been bounced out of very team he has ever played for.He should not have been bought back in after Text gate when they bent over for him.This set a dangerous precedent and he finally knocked himself out of the team. So bye KP. Enjoy yourself in IPL it is as facile and shallow as you so enjoy it until you fall out with them.

Posted by   on (March 25, 2014, 17:43 GMT)

Yes we know he was being honest !!!.But hes gone. However unfortunate that might be and however great a player he was it is true and England need to move on. Even I am being honest - he wasnt going to be around for too long even if there was no controversy .I think England should focus on their rebuilding now .They have some good players .They need proper coaches and saker giles and co are not good .The biggest loss to Eng cricket IMO is not KP but Steven Finn. Hope that guy works himself out of the problem and there was a certain jamie overton and reece topley in U19 WC 2012 .Where did that duo dissapear .Nothing will help England more than good fast bowlers and certainly when Anderson is nearing the end of his career .As for Tremlett the guy is just not what england need .Simon Kerrigan should be given a go for England again and not the so called spinners like Borthwick .

Posted by CodandChips on (March 25, 2014, 17:34 GMT)

Tremlett is only saying this because he knows his England career is over and that Pietersen will be a team-mate of him at Surrey.

@JG2704 "Swann's opinion is the most interesting to me" agree with you there

Posted by steve48 on (March 25, 2014, 17:31 GMT)

The sceptics can read a pro Surrey line to this, especially from a player unlikely to play for England again, but the last part of his comments is the most telling; the wheels came off with the ashes gone, Swann gone, Trott gone, Prior a mess and Finn unelectable. Panic and poor communication are damning words against the management and senior players. KP, with his frankness, dodgy knee and poor shot selection in those 3 live tests, becomes a natural scapegoat to soothe the egos of those who have failed to steer the faltering ship. Panic and muddled thinking can be the only possible reasons for selecting Scott Borthwick for the final test as our spinner! And I haven't even started on no backup keeper, and the twin towers of Rankin and Tremlett himself...

Posted by manoftheseries on (March 25, 2014, 17:07 GMT)

Next on the firing line - Chris Tremlet.

Posted by   on (March 25, 2014, 17:02 GMT)

I have no doubt that KP will proof ECB to sack him was a wrong decision , Does they have his replacement?? answer is NO , he can play at any format

Posted by crockit on (March 25, 2014, 16:12 GMT)

I do not know Pieterson but Insightful cannot assume he is manageable given 10 years of issues as Narkovian points out. ECB specifically have flexed around him 3 times - over Moores, then textgate and now Flower - I think his reaction after a brilliant century in the textgate series against SA said a lot - he said something to the effect of 'its hard being Kevin Pieterson' and spoke about himself as if a separate entity to the team rather than part of it. He is not coming back after all of this, no way, especially not when already 33. It was not like Gower or Botham who had their antics but basically were team men to the hilt.

Posted by manoftheseries on (March 25, 2014, 16:11 GMT)

Next in the line of fire. Christ Tremlet. Be prepared.

Posted by woody3 on (March 25, 2014, 15:51 GMT)

In six months when all the details come out I am starting to think that will be the end of Cooks captaincy.

Posted by xylo on (March 25, 2014, 15:44 GMT)

Wait, is Tremlett saying that the English coach isn't good? The likes of Andy Flower and Ashley Giles are not good? This, in spite of the spectacular performances by the team in recent times?? Color me shocked!

Posted by Insightful2013 on (March 25, 2014, 15:03 GMT)

KP's psych profile would dictate that is exactly as Tremlett describes he would react. He would tolerate or suppress stifling management and ongoing losses only briefly. This is exactly what a Flower type management would be like. Insecure people like Flower are never flexible and live by rules. KP would have been a doddle to manage for anyone who understood Psychology or personalities. I absolutely believe this version of events based on personalities involved. Maroubra_Flyer, bang on mate! Narkovian, most managers are a stodgy bunch. You have to produce and this means having a plan and adherence to it. KP works instinctively as most geniuses do. Flower's rigidity would have got up his nose, often! Flower brought discipline which could only have worked briefly. Emotional blokes like Broad, Anderson, KP etc must have felt stifled. KP was an easy target and used as a scapegoat to distract from what was an ECB personnel problem! Point fingers, muddy the waters and everyone's confused!

Posted by Rahulbose on (March 25, 2014, 14:47 GMT)

KP is an overrated player who bought into the media hype and let his ego grow too big. It is interesting though that did the same with multiple teams from SA to Eng county to international cricket. I guess some people never learn.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge-Needs-A-Hug on (March 25, 2014, 14:31 GMT)

Sounds like a pretty honest assessment from Tremlett, there's no ECB spin here. KP was their best player and I can assure you even as an Aussie it was great to watch him bat. Test cricket doesn't need pink balls or coloured clothes it just needs players like KP playing to make it interesting. An absolutely terrible decision from the ECB. Flower should have been dropped from the English setup, not KP.

Posted by NoSlimTalk on (March 25, 2014, 13:25 GMT)

Comments from a man whose test career may be over about a man "who remains a team-mate of Pietersen's at Surrey". Pinch of salt required?

Having said that, I've seen comments from the Surrey dynasties (Stewart and Butcher) that they are impressed with KP's input. Just hope he can get on with Mr G Smith from Newlands.

Posted by Narkovian on (March 25, 2014, 12:36 GMT)

Boy. Maroubra_Flyer, you seem to have some serious chip on shoulder issues !! Come on folks. Anyone who believes Pietersen was sacked just as a result of one meeting, has failed to understand the 10 year drip feed of him falling out with just about any team and administration he has been involved with. Good luck Surrey for this season. If he is still playing regular cricket for Surrey by the end of July, I'll be amazed. I do mean regular cricket.. not just the odd game here and there when he feels he has nothing better to do !

Posted by JG2704 on (March 25, 2014, 12:02 GMT)

Part of me hopes they definitely don't resolve things.

It would seem particularly poor planning if his suspensions/being outed so he misses last 2 shorter format world cups

Posted by JG2704 on (March 25, 2014, 11:58 GMT)

Interesting that this is the 1st comment from a player within that dressing room in full support of KP. I can genuinely believe that KP may be the only person to have the balls go against the grain. I'm not sure Tremlett has much of an England future so maybe just as it's best for certain players (who have clear Eng futures) to back the decision Tremlett who is more likely to play more often with KP than with other Eng players is better off in support of KP. Swann's opinion is the most interesting to me as he will never play for Eng again nor will he play with KP again so his opinion would not have reprocussions. It's a shame that neither party will elaborate further on things. KP not responding with any counter questioning makes me wonder if there were some just reasoning to him being outed but Eng not saying anything makes me wonder if they don't have any just reason. I wonder if both parties have wronged and therefore both decided to keep quiet?

Posted by   on (March 25, 2014, 11:43 GMT)

KP is always a wonderful player to watch out playing, hopefully ECB resolve all matters with him and he is come back soon, he is such an entertainer on the cricket field.

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