England news July 5, 2014

Strauss 'mortified' at Pietersen slur

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Andrew Strauss, the former England captain, has made a shame-faced public apology to Kevin Pietersen after he was inadvertently caught on air describing him as a "c***" from the back of the TV commentary box at Lord's.

Strauss, part of the commentary team for the MCC's bicentenary celebration match against the Rest of the World, thought he was off air, but the feed was still being broadcast on some channels and viewers using the Fox Sports app in Australia caught the expletive.

It was not long before Strauss' faux pas was being gossiped around the world with former England captain Adam Hollioake one of the first to exclaim with surprise on Facebook.

"I apologise unreservedly, particularly to Kevin Pietersen," Strauss said, as his error became public knowledge. "I am mortified and profusely sorry."

His co-commentator, Michael Atherton, another former England captain, remarked: "I think that's covered it; let's move on." But there will be no moving on for a while as Pietersen's supporters will find just cause to rail against the double standards they perceive to be at the heart of English cricket.

Sky TV also felt obliged to apologise for Strauss' stray remark - although only for the bad language. It tweeted: "Earlier comments were made during a break of play which were heard overseas. We apologise for the language used."

Two years ago, Pietersen famously incurred the ECB's wrath by texting that Strauss was a "doos", an Afrikaans word that strictly speaking means "box" but which has similar connotations to Strauss' remark. Except some linguists might point out that "doos" can also be slang for idiot, whereas c*** pretty much leaves nothing to the imagination.

Pietersen's comment on Strauss came midway through a Test at Headingley against South Africa in 2012, and was made to a South African player who, whether by accident or design, allowed it to reach the public domain. The ECB saw it as evidence of an outright rebellion against an England captain; Strauss has written that he never entirely trusted Pietersen again after that point.

Strauss, twice an Ashes-winning captain, retired following South Africa's 2-0 win in that series. He reflected soon afterwards on the brouhaha in his autobiography, Driving Ambition. He wrote: 'For me, he had crossed the line. He seemed to be at best destabilising and at worst undermining our carefully cultivated team environment."

Both insults were, in essence, private communications that entered the public domain. The difference is that Pietersen and Strauss were team-mates in the first instance, charged with maintaining at least the pretence of unity.

Pietersen's comments effectively cost him his international career. He had to undergo a theatrical "process of reintegration" before he was allowed back into the England fraternity. Then he began to show impatience with the careworn captaincy of Alastair Cook, Strauss' successor, during a demoralising 5-0 whitewash in Australia and he was removed for good at the end of the series with the ECB stating it wanted to rebuild the "team ethic and philosophy".

Paul Downton, the MD of England cricket, has since called Pietersen "a man of too many agendas" and claimed he did not have a single supporter in the side - a claim furiously dismissed by Pietersen.

There were immediate calls from Pietersen supporters for Strauss to suffer the same fate. But Strauss has retired; such an outcome is impossible. 'Then sack him from his Sky contract,' will come the cry. Such a taste for revenge would make the response even more disproportionate, but modern life, with every dot and comma analysed on social media, is laced with a desire for blood.

Predictably, Piers Morgan, chat-show host, former tabloid editor and Pietersen confidant, was the first to do just that. Prior to Strauss' apology, he tweeted: "If Strauss story is true then he'll have to be fired, surely? Or is a commentator calling @KP24 a 'c**t' on air acceptable @SkyCricket?

"After all, Strauss himself axed KP from his England team for allegedly saying similar things about him that weren't even broadcast."

That Pietersen and Strauss, despite their shared South African roots, do not get on is not news. Everybody knew as much. That a stray insult was made when Strauss presumed he was off air would also not normally be news. But any suspicion of double standards in this tawdry, overblown soap opera is news and, as such, Strauss' remarks need to be made public.

When Pietersen, to his horror, was outed in 2012, he tried to influence public opinion by issuing a fulsome apology on YouTube, only to make the ECB even more angry because of his presumption.

Strauss will suffer his shame privately. There will be shame because he knows his public perception will have faltered as a result. There will be shame, too, because he made his slip during the MCC bicentenary match and because as a natural conservative, a proud believer in tradition, to have slipped up at Lord's will feel even worse.

He can no longer hold the moral high ground. Until today, it is a privileged position from where he has observed this whole, shoddy, tiresome business. He is now down in the gutter, wallowing around with the rest of us.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • Newbury_1 on July 11, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    Good on you Strauss......pretty apt description of KP

  • steve48 on July 8, 2014, 11:09 GMT

    Read a bit more on the context of the Strauss rant, I believe jealousy to be at the heart of it! What the other egos in the England camp should know is that for all his faults, KP was a MATCH WINNER. None of our 2005 side would have been OBE without that frankly unbelievable innings on the last day at the Oval. Don't believe me? Do you think Federer cares about winning 5 games in a row on Sunday, to take the final to a 5th set? No, cos he lost! FF was rightly man of series, everyone played their part, but only a KP could have put the series to bed. Similarly India away, SA at Headingly, and several other knocks. Men like him, Lara, are difficult to manage BECAUSE of this rare quality, one that others, even ( especially?) team mates envy...

  • jmcilhinney on July 8, 2014, 4:31 GMT

    @Vinod_Fab on (July 6, 2014, 15:48 GMT), you are a complete KP fanboy so you're never going to admit any responsibility on KP's part. You're assurances that KP It was reported that KP referred to Strauss as a "box" or the like in a text message to one or more members of the SA team. That probably doesn't carry quite the same weight as the term Strauss used but I believe it refers to the same part of the anatomy. No, I don't know for sure that that's what he said but you don't know that he didn't either. You don't know what KP thinks or has said about anyone behind their back or to their face. You're just assuming things about him because you want to. I'm not laying all the blame at KP's feet but I'm also not naive enough to believe that KP is blameless for all that's happened to him. If Strauss thinks that way of him then there are undoubtedly reasons and you can't claim to have enough information to judge KP innocent.

  • Beertjie on July 7, 2014, 22:18 GMT

    I commend your way of summing up the gist of the issue, Mr Hopps: "There will be shame because he knows his public perception will have faltered as a result. There will be shame, too, because he made his slip during the MCC bicentenary match and because as a natural conservative, a proud believer in tradition, to have slipped up at Lord's will feel even worse." It is not even a case of KP v Strauss; it's a case of an hypocrisy that is perceived to collude with that natural conservatism seamlessly undermining English cricket on and off the field. I concur entirely, @tinkertinker.

  • BradmanBestEver on July 7, 2014, 18:22 GMT

    The important point is WHY Strauss thinks that way.

  • JG2704 on July 7, 2014, 17:59 GMT

    @Sexysteven on (July 7, 2014, 3:51 GMT) So you know exactly what KP has said/done to Strauss over the years? Please enlighten us so we can have an opinion on the matter.

  • JG2704 on July 7, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    I think many people are missing the point in that it's not about KP. It's about Strauss using the C word while having a mic on him. It's not like he didn't know there were mics about the place or anything so he can't plead total ignorance here. KP could be the biggest (what Strauss called him) in the world but that does not make it right to use the C word anywhere near commentary box.

    STEVE48 - Uses the Ron analogy in football. For me this is actually worse as at least Ron was referring to a players attitude on the pitch and not a generalisation of him as a person.

  • KJ_SA on July 7, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    Well, I think they are both right..... :-)

  • on July 7, 2014, 10:59 GMT

    I gotta say, from an Aussie's point of view this is hilarious. Englands heirachy, former greats and current stars ripping each other apart from all angles, basically imploding. From that angle alone, Strauss should know better.

    It does show that whatever the likes of Nick Knight, who I'm guessing was in furious agreement and Strauss say about KP, it has to be taken with a healthy dose of salt.

    Whether or not Strauss thought he was on air, it is still pretty poor form to use that kind of language in the public domain, he has been caught out well and truly here, only Sky can judge on what his punishment should be.

  • steve48 on July 7, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    I accept AS believed he was off air, but this sort of 'banter' in a commentary box is unprofessional and shows nothing has been learned from Ron Atkinson et al, who ended up sacked for off air comments that get picked up! Was this really the place for back biting about a former team mate? Was he asked his opinion of KP by anyone in the 'box? What was the motivation? In the PR stakes, KP just keeps winning as others involved show their less than shiny colours, whatever the truth of the whole saga may be. Am fascinated to see how KP pitches his autobiography; does his so far very good PR machine see him through to clear victory, or does he succumb to tit- for- tat, and spoil it for himself? By his DT articles, don't think he will, apart from the self importance shown in 'why Gilo didn't get the coaching job'! As for AS apologising to him, really, why bother? Unless he can show joking context to it, perhaps re. the doos text, damage is done, isn't it?

  • Newbury_1 on July 11, 2014, 14:03 GMT

    Good on you Strauss......pretty apt description of KP

  • steve48 on July 8, 2014, 11:09 GMT

    Read a bit more on the context of the Strauss rant, I believe jealousy to be at the heart of it! What the other egos in the England camp should know is that for all his faults, KP was a MATCH WINNER. None of our 2005 side would have been OBE without that frankly unbelievable innings on the last day at the Oval. Don't believe me? Do you think Federer cares about winning 5 games in a row on Sunday, to take the final to a 5th set? No, cos he lost! FF was rightly man of series, everyone played their part, but only a KP could have put the series to bed. Similarly India away, SA at Headingly, and several other knocks. Men like him, Lara, are difficult to manage BECAUSE of this rare quality, one that others, even ( especially?) team mates envy...

  • jmcilhinney on July 8, 2014, 4:31 GMT

    @Vinod_Fab on (July 6, 2014, 15:48 GMT), you are a complete KP fanboy so you're never going to admit any responsibility on KP's part. You're assurances that KP It was reported that KP referred to Strauss as a "box" or the like in a text message to one or more members of the SA team. That probably doesn't carry quite the same weight as the term Strauss used but I believe it refers to the same part of the anatomy. No, I don't know for sure that that's what he said but you don't know that he didn't either. You don't know what KP thinks or has said about anyone behind their back or to their face. You're just assuming things about him because you want to. I'm not laying all the blame at KP's feet but I'm also not naive enough to believe that KP is blameless for all that's happened to him. If Strauss thinks that way of him then there are undoubtedly reasons and you can't claim to have enough information to judge KP innocent.

  • Beertjie on July 7, 2014, 22:18 GMT

    I commend your way of summing up the gist of the issue, Mr Hopps: "There will be shame because he knows his public perception will have faltered as a result. There will be shame, too, because he made his slip during the MCC bicentenary match and because as a natural conservative, a proud believer in tradition, to have slipped up at Lord's will feel even worse." It is not even a case of KP v Strauss; it's a case of an hypocrisy that is perceived to collude with that natural conservatism seamlessly undermining English cricket on and off the field. I concur entirely, @tinkertinker.

  • BradmanBestEver on July 7, 2014, 18:22 GMT

    The important point is WHY Strauss thinks that way.

  • JG2704 on July 7, 2014, 17:59 GMT

    @Sexysteven on (July 7, 2014, 3:51 GMT) So you know exactly what KP has said/done to Strauss over the years? Please enlighten us so we can have an opinion on the matter.

  • JG2704 on July 7, 2014, 17:58 GMT

    I think many people are missing the point in that it's not about KP. It's about Strauss using the C word while having a mic on him. It's not like he didn't know there were mics about the place or anything so he can't plead total ignorance here. KP could be the biggest (what Strauss called him) in the world but that does not make it right to use the C word anywhere near commentary box.

    STEVE48 - Uses the Ron analogy in football. For me this is actually worse as at least Ron was referring to a players attitude on the pitch and not a generalisation of him as a person.

  • KJ_SA on July 7, 2014, 14:42 GMT

    Well, I think they are both right..... :-)

  • on July 7, 2014, 10:59 GMT

    I gotta say, from an Aussie's point of view this is hilarious. Englands heirachy, former greats and current stars ripping each other apart from all angles, basically imploding. From that angle alone, Strauss should know better.

    It does show that whatever the likes of Nick Knight, who I'm guessing was in furious agreement and Strauss say about KP, it has to be taken with a healthy dose of salt.

    Whether or not Strauss thought he was on air, it is still pretty poor form to use that kind of language in the public domain, he has been caught out well and truly here, only Sky can judge on what his punishment should be.

  • steve48 on July 7, 2014, 9:25 GMT

    I accept AS believed he was off air, but this sort of 'banter' in a commentary box is unprofessional and shows nothing has been learned from Ron Atkinson et al, who ended up sacked for off air comments that get picked up! Was this really the place for back biting about a former team mate? Was he asked his opinion of KP by anyone in the 'box? What was the motivation? In the PR stakes, KP just keeps winning as others involved show their less than shiny colours, whatever the truth of the whole saga may be. Am fascinated to see how KP pitches his autobiography; does his so far very good PR machine see him through to clear victory, or does he succumb to tit- for- tat, and spoil it for himself? By his DT articles, don't think he will, apart from the self importance shown in 'why Gilo didn't get the coaching job'! As for AS apologising to him, really, why bother? Unless he can show joking context to it, perhaps re. the doos text, damage is done, isn't it?

  • JG2704 on July 7, 2014, 9:09 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding on (July 7, 2014, 8:07 GMT) Agree re Keys/Gray in that they had previous but from what I heard about Rod Marsh (football pundit) he was very harshly treated. I like Strauss as a person and it was naivety but unless he checked with a technician that the mic was definitely not active then the blame is surely at his door and no one elses.

  • Skolla on July 7, 2014, 8:42 GMT

    Could not have said it better myself!

    Pietersen is a right royal doos, thank goodness he left SA!

  • YorkshirePudding on July 7, 2014, 8:07 GMT

    @Jamie Moneghan, Has has been noted the Keyes and Grey incidents were more like last resorts. It should also be noted that as far as Strauss was concerned, he was speaking off line, as he'd asked if they were live and was told no. If anything the fault is that of the Sky technician who had not switched off the mikes from the other feed.

    @AlSmug, please tell how KP can justify reselection to the England squad, as hes played a ZERO FC games, his Test average for 3 years has been in the mid 40's.

  • JG2704 on July 7, 2014, 7:46 GMT

    @Sue Smith on (July 7, 2014, 0:18 GMT) Personally I am not offended at all but you have to remember that Strauss was there as a broadcaster representing SKY. If he is let off then it says to anyone who works for SKY that it's ok to call someone a C on air. Sure Strauss didn't realise the mic was on but anyone else could do the same and say they didn't know the mic was on. It's also not like Strauss was a player (who may have no idea about what mics pick up what) or that he said something during the heat of battle when tensions are high. Also for me if he said the f word when getting carried away with the game that would not be as bad.

    @Appu Dasa on (July 7, 2014, 6:32 GMT) Not actually sure if his roots are in England. I thought he moved here alone. But regardles , you're right he does have feelings. However I would say you're out of order saying it's a race thing. Trott is SA and I've never seen a bad word written about him from any fellow pro

  • on July 7, 2014, 7:29 GMT

    Think it comes down to the double standards by Strauss and the fact he was unprofessional by saying what he did live on air. Everybody already knew that Strauss thought that about KP and vice versa so the backchat not the issue , the main issue is if Sky will do anything about it as they couldn't push Keys and Grey out of the door quick enough , different scenario but a breach all the same.

  • on July 7, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    People may not like KP for his demeanor but yet he too is a human, and as far as Poms are concerned looks like they think he is a foreigner. But his ancestry is that his people to are from England. To think even such a person is being treated by English this war, no need to think how Asians and African would be looked upon.

  • jonesy2 on July 7, 2014, 5:17 GMT

    i like strauss a lot more now. frankly petersen should be happy he hasnt copped a lot more

  • Sexysteven on July 7, 2014, 3:51 GMT

    Just apologise for the swearing Strauss n sky shouldn't apologise to kp cos that's nothing compared to what kp has done to Strauss and England in the past we all know kp isn't the nicest person around his flamboyant shots summed kp up as a person avery good show pony the best thing for England is that kp will never play for them again he totally destroyed the dressing room ur better off having eleven less talented players who get on with each other in my view everyone is better off without kp that's for sure

  • on July 7, 2014, 0:18 GMT

    I am sick of hearing about comments made by different people - sporting and other high profile - being put in to the public domain by social media and then picked up by the general media. Putting aside the two people concerned, I'm sure there are plenty of the general public who make negative comments about another, be it a work colleague or a casual acquaintance. If anyone should be offended in this it is Kevin Pietersen and I am sure he is able to verbally defend himself against any comment made by Andrew Strauss. While I certainly don't condone his choice of insulting word I don't see any point to continue to repeat it via different media avenues. Does this really count as newsworthy? I would have thought the bicentennial match at Lord's was much more interesting but that is just my opinion.

  • AlSmug on July 6, 2014, 21:31 GMT

    Its a real shame for England that Pieterson gets so much flack for being himself, he may be this and that but ....he is the est batsmen in the country , in Australai we had a period where our Captain and selectors tried to pick on personalities it didnt work the team sufferd along came D Lehmann now we pick the best squads available, like we did back in our era of dominance. I would like to thank the England crciket selectors and current captain for picking on personality cheers for the ashes boys :)

  • on July 6, 2014, 21:18 GMT

    Personally among all of this in-fighting I think Pieterson has come out looking far better. Go KP!

  • CM1000 on July 6, 2014, 21:17 GMT

    Strauss would never get in any trouble for saying that about Pietersen, because anyone who might get him in trouble knows most of the details about what Pietersen has done for the last few years to destabilise the England dressing room, and so they agree with Strauss's sentiments.

  • shillingsworth on July 6, 2014, 21:05 GMT

    @BradmanBestEver - Baffled what a dispute between two ex players has to do with the performance of the current team or, even more bizarrely, the 'state of English cricket.' Selection looks just fine to me - Ballance, Robson and Ali all make 100s in only their 2nd test, Plunkett takes 9 wickets the match after his return. As for 'what is going on behind the scenes', you clearly have a very vivid imagination.

  • JG2704 on July 6, 2014, 20:59 GMT

    @R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (July 6, 2014, 13:39 GMT) Agree.Apart from when KP said he was glad to be out of the fold (which contradicted what he says now and said at the time he was outed) KP has handled himself really well in the media.

  • JG2704 on July 6, 2014, 20:54 GMT

    @ Vinod_Fab on (July 6, 2014, 15:47 GMT) Re T20s not being a criteria to judge him on - fair enough , but he isn't playing any loner form of cricket so it's all we have. That is KP's choice. I'm sure Surrey would love him to play CC cricket for them. I too will miss the KP that was battling with Steyn but IMO that version of KP is gone regardless of whether he were to play for England again or not. Re the Melbourne test - yes KP scored 71 at a SR of 44 - not 100+ at a SR of 60+ which he probably would have done at his fluent best. Regardless of textgate and how he gets on with his team mates for me the flamboyance has dimmed and with it the threat. He is also injury prone and maybe that came into the thinking. I don't like the way he has been outed and certainly don't like him being called a C by a fellow professional but I don't think he is anywhere near the player you still believe him to be and unless he plays some longer form cricket somewhere then we will never know

  • on July 6, 2014, 18:16 GMT

    we may not like kp some of us but we do miss him when he bats for england we want to watch. cant say that about the rest of english team

  • LeeHallam on July 6, 2014, 17:53 GMT

    Oh for goodness sake, we know that Strauss does not like Pietersen, and who can blame him. He should have been more careful in what he said near a microphone, that is a matter for Sky, but this is not a crisis or a scandal for English Cricket, both men are no longer part of English cricket. Strauss is a commentator, and Pietersen plays exhibition matches.

  • drdickdixon on July 6, 2014, 16:42 GMT

    Gaffes and the moral high ground aside, the main thing I take from this is what a character Pietersen must be for Strauss, from what I can tell a thoroughly reasonable man, to utter such a thing. But then again given Pietersen's case history (e.g falling out with the Notts dressing room) it probably shouldn't really be a surprise.

  • on July 6, 2014, 16:24 GMT

    How is this double standards. Strauss fought for KP to stay IN The team! It was STRAUSS who was forced out after text gate. Pietersen remained in the team despite showing that he had after 8 years, he could show not the slightest bit of allegiance, honour or integrity for his adopted country or team-mates.

    People are talking as if Strauss was the one who forced Pietersen out. After textgate is was STRAUSS who was forced out due to the untenable position he was in - Pietersen stayed and it was the likes of Cooke and Bell who fought for Pietersen's continued inclusion... until he fouled the nest yet again.

    That was England's mistake. Forcing the better man out in 2012.

  • BradmanBestEver on July 6, 2014, 16:13 GMT

    What a terrible state English cricket is in. One can only imagine what must be going on behind the scenes!

    Bad news for the team's performances in the coming years as these seemingly entrenched, bitter disputes fester and adversely affect important matters related to performance, such as selection for example.

  • Vinod_Fab on July 6, 2014, 15:48 GMT

    @jmcilhinney on (July 6, 2014, 11:47 GMT).. "Didn't KP call Strauss something similar in those text messages?" -- See even you are not quite sure what KP called as we don't have any proof regarding the KP incident..!!. I am sure KP is not this much cheap, he says at face what he thinks.. From Moores incident till now he used to say at the face.. Can anyone in the present era says that i won a series in IND single handedly..?? I guess none.. 2nd test(186) and 4th test(74 odd) still remains in heart for cricket fans all over the globe..!! #Bring back KP for WC 2015..!!

  • Vinod_Fab on July 6, 2014, 15:47 GMT

    @JG2704 on (July 6, 2014, 13:43 GMT).. Still the surity is not there,right? , Has the textgate(they say) came to the fore? "his stats in SFs have been by and large poor since his exile" -- sorry i don't count T20 cricket as the criteria for determining the form..!!. Give him 3 or 4 tests against any country he will prove you wrong..!!..Hope you remember the melbourne test in the disastrous downunder when he was dominating AUS singlehandedly amid the huge crowd that day..!! Sadly that was the brief moment when ENG looked like winning..!!.. Whole Ashes he was middling the ball nicely but didn't got the big scores which can happen to all at some point of the career..!! Whether KP or no KP fan, injustice has been done to the one who gives more than cent percent in gameday as well as in nets..!!.. Graeme smith tweeted on KP's b'day that it was fun standing in slips watching u and dale battling it out..!!. That much it means to all other players..!!..

  • Mintsweety on July 6, 2014, 15:31 GMT

    Yawn...let's move on people. Who cares who said what.

  • on July 6, 2014, 14:31 GMT

    Personally I find this word loathsome and it's use obnoxious in any circumstances. I don't care at all what these two gentlemen think of each other although I would prefer they keep their personal animosity to themselves. However I certainly believe Mr Strauss is right to give a grovelling apology for his most obscene language, but I don't believe he should be deprived of his livelihood.

  • JG2704 on July 6, 2014, 13:43 GMT

    @Vinod_Fab on (July 6, 2014, 11:43 GMT) Re those who say ill of his present form - surely they are only saying what they are seeing. I know you're a massive KP fan but his stats in SFs have been by and large poor since his exile. Re textgate - I'd say there was more to it than just a jovial remark otherwise KP would surelyhave protested his innocence straight away? We must remember that KP went missing when initially asked to explain the text.

  • R_U_4_REAL_NICK on July 6, 2014, 13:39 GMT

    Perhaps the biggest 'test' in all this will be the response of one Kevin Pietersen. Unsurprisingly, the likes of Piers Morgan have retaliated immediately. K.P. himself should be commended on not reacting immediately and, his response, if there even is one, will be a show of character. Will he let bygones be bygones, or demand retribution? Game on...

  • JG2704 on July 6, 2014, 13:29 GMT

    @TheBigBoodha on (July 6, 2014, 11:19 GMT) Bob2 is spot on IMO . Obviously Strauss didn't realise the mic was switched on but it wasn't hidden and he was representing SKY as a broadcaster and not just a bystander who is accidentally caught on a mic he didn't know was there. The other point Bob mentions is that it may be difficult to take Strauss's views as impartial re KP after this and it wasn't as though he was just caught saying something in the heat of the moment with tensions high and adrenalin running etc. For me - and I like Strauss as a person - he should be fired if SKY are showing any sort of consistency

  • jmcilhinney on July 6, 2014, 11:47 GMT

    I don't think anyone should be surprised about Strauss' feelings towards KP, least of all KP. Noone has any reason to apologise to anyone for holding any opinion about them, but I do think it's appropriate for Strauss to apologise for airing it publicly as he did, albeit inadvertently. I also have no issue with the word used. Obviously it's not appropriate for airing on television and Strauss definitely should have been more careful to ensure that didn't happen, but to use it among people you know and will not be offended by it is really no big deal. I use it regularly; my girlfriend even more so. If Strauss gets reprimanded or sacked then it will be for using inappropriate language on air specifically, not for using inappropriate language in the first place or for holding an opinion about KP. The issue is that Strauss used a very string epithet on air and who it was regarding is really of no consequence. Didn't KP call Strauss something similar in those text messages?

  • Vinod_Fab on July 6, 2014, 11:43 GMT

    Anyways his commentary doesn't falls with the standards of Tony Greig,Mark Taylor,Richie Benaud,Bill Lawry etc.He should be kicked out from the commentary stint or else any one can use that word and can apologise..!! Guys saying textgate incident and other stuffs saying he used profanity are cent percent wrong.Till now i didn't see any proof stating KP used profanity,indeed KP himself said it was a jovial remark rather than what media made it out to be..!! Anyways i wants KP not to comment on what straussy said,rather he can bolster his cricketing skills more and shut all the mouth's who said ill of his present form now. FYI -- From late 04 till now KP is always about the stage(Game day) rather than on form..!!.. Indeed KP a man who divides opinion upto the greater extent and still prevails..!!. Indeed if selected he will show what he is and we all know what he did after that reintegration..!!

  • geoffboyc on July 6, 2014, 11:34 GMT

    Pietersen will never again be the same player who won all those games for England and his time has now gone, rightly or wrongly; he's a complex egocentric whose approach jars with me too. But the real undercurrent of this episode, as David Hopps identifies, is the implied double standards it reveals. Imagine if KP had uttered the words about Strauss or Cook- perhaps he did behind the closed doors of the dressing room? At the ECB if you're in then you're in and the establishment closes ranks around you, if you're not then you're on your own and outside the fence. I'd be surprised to see Strauss sacked and I'm not sure what good it would do if he was. In the world of English cricket, if your face fits............

  • GRHinPorts on July 6, 2014, 11:33 GMT

    Since there is not a cats chance in hell of Pietersen ever playing for England again surely this is yesterday's news already? Who really cares if two former England players (for that is all Strauss and KP are) don't really like each other? They won't be the first and they wont be the last. Moreover this latest public airing of their spat wont in any way re-write the history of the past. Nothing to see here move on.

  • TheBigBoodha on July 6, 2014, 11:19 GMT

    Um, bob2. Do you think you might be being a little naive? If we followed you around with a hidden mic, we might discover that even you swear, no? I have never used the C word in my life and hate the word, but this was a foolish accident from Straus. All we have discovered is that he is human. As for KPs "integrity"? Well, I really like KP. He's great fun. But anybody with an an ounce of people skills can see his personality type, and also see through his media game.

  • delboy on July 6, 2014, 11:07 GMT

    Fortunately this is not that corporation where you have to pay a license fee for nothing. If sky wants to retain its subscribers and attract advertisers it has to take action. This is the benefit of live unsensored coverage. Strauss should man up and quit on air rather than apologise he would earn more respect that way afterall he openly expressed his opinion and possibly that of other members of the establishment about others who do not tick all the boxes..

  • lebigfella on July 6, 2014, 11:03 GMT

    Pietersen's time is up as an international cricketer and I am afraid Strauss's career as a Sky commentator could now be up... school boy error and while he's only echoing what most of us think it was very naive to say it anywhere near the ultra sensitive microphones. He must be so mad at himself!!!

  • george204 on July 6, 2014, 10:23 GMT

    The only people Strauss should have apologised to were the Australian viewers who heard the broadcast (I doubt too many of them were offended!) & Sky. Given what Pietersen did, it's hardly surprising that Strauss loathes him. Those people who say that Strauss is "as bad" as Pietersen are being ridiculous. Strauss is merely guilty of forgetting Rule#1 of broadcasting: treat every microphone as "live". What Pietersen did to Strauss is worse by a considerable order of magnitude!

  • JimLovel on July 6, 2014, 10:19 GMT

    Obviously people swear and use bad language in private that is up to them but to use it in a place of work and in front of women and children is inexcusable. Saying he didn't know the microphone was on is not an excuse, that sort of language should not be tolerated in the work place. Ron Atkinson used the same excuse after his offensive outburst but was immediately fired and the same punishment should be extended to Andrew Strauss.

  • bob2 on July 6, 2014, 9:35 GMT

    The most embarrassing thing about this whole fiasco is the apology. A futile attempt at saving his career as a Sky contributer which must surely now be untenable. Viewers will expect Sky to act and it wouldn't be realistic to continue in what should be an objective and impartial role with this on record?

    I don't think Strauss's views of KP will surprise anyone but I'm sure many will question the need for airing his views, even if intended to be in private on a day which was designed to showcase everything that's great about cricket.

    Although not a huge fan of KP, I have been impressed by his integrity since being stood down.

  • on July 6, 2014, 8:54 GMT

    People swear. News indeed.

  • on July 6, 2014, 8:50 GMT

    Strauss is mortified that Strauss made these comments and Strauss apologizes for Strauss. There that is taken care of. KP doesn't deserve a break. How does one individual get under the skin of the whole english cricket establishment so much but no one is willing to say anything on record???

  • on July 6, 2014, 8:43 GMT

    I am on the side of Strauss all day long. Pietersen has always thought that England are nothing without him. Yeah, he may have scored runs, and attempted to bowl a bit. but he is nothing if not inconsistent. He often gave his wicket away cheaply when England were down to the wire, so the ECB made the right decision in canning him IMO. Strauss was a good captain, and led his team well, which is what we desperately needed. He has the respect of all the countries that he played against as captain, and was always an honourable figure on the field. I am sick to the back teeth of hearing about Pietersen, who often spits his dummy out if things don't go his way, and has no class whatsoever, unlike Strauss. Bye bye KP. You won't be missed (not by me anyway)

  • JG2704 on July 6, 2014, 8:29 GMT

    @CodandChips on (July 6, 2014, 7:13 GMT)/ YorkshirePudding on (July 6, 2014, 6:41 GMT) - Re Keys/Gray - apparently they had previous which was taken into consideration but re the lineswoman comms Miss Massey never had a big problem with it as it was proven she was correct so she had the last laugh in that respect. Worse though was that Rod Marsh was apparently fired for his play on words using Toonarmy replacing Tsunami around the time that there was a major disaster. @YP - As I put previously , I think it's less acceptable here as on the pitch or even during the period of a contest emotions can run high.This was not a spontaneous reaction to something . Personally I couldn't care less what Strauss calls KP and vice versa but if Sky are consistent they'll sack him

  • Lord_mac on July 6, 2014, 8:20 GMT

    Misguided though Strauss' comment is - and he must face the consequences of his ill-judged error - how does it make Pietersen any more palatable on or off the field?

    @Don Graham - There is no justification whatsoever for recalling Pietersen on recent form. His best days are behind him. The same is true for Monty Panesar - who is not exactly pulling up trees for Essex, even when he managed to turn up on time.

    Nor do I support recalling IT Botham, Bobby Charlton, WG Grace, Lord Nelson, William the Conqueror, Boadicea, and many other great players from past eras.

  • jb633 on July 6, 2014, 8:13 GMT

    Poor showing from Strauss, in particular the use of that precise word never goes well and we don't want kids from any country using it.

  • on July 6, 2014, 8:05 GMT

    When does KP's book come out as really can't wait to read it ha ha .

  • CodandChips on July 6, 2014, 7:13 GMT

    @YorkshirePudding Re Keys and Gray yes they lost their jobs for sexist remarks. Yes it's much worse than what Strauss did. And I certainly don't think that Strauss inherently calling KP the word is bad (everyone has an opinion on others, especially those whose leadership was undermined by them). But Strauss saying it for the world to hear is foolish and has put Sky in a tricky position. Take the world cup in football at the moment (apologies if you don't like football). When a guy puts his hands up or sticks his leg out and his opponent goes down, he gives the referee the opportunity to give a fowl against him, despite not necessarily doing anything wrong. Same with Strauss here.

  • YorkshirePudding on July 6, 2014, 6:41 GMT

    @ Tlotoxl, you state that KP is the best english batsman available, please can you point out the stats from the current county season that back up your case. In T20 he has played 5 games, with 4 Innings, scored an eye watering 48 runs, with a High score of 24 at an average of 23. In the county championship, his record is even better with a sum of 0 innings. Please tell me how this makes him the 'best' english batsman.

    @Rupert, the Text gate affair was 2012 not 2010.

    @CodAndChips, did those other two lose the jobs for voicing sexist remarks, all Strauss did was utter a word that aptly expresses an opinion. Right/Wrong, meh I've heard stronger on the pitch.

  • Rastus on July 6, 2014, 6:40 GMT

    Surely Strauss must be fired after an outburst like that. The word itself is bad enough but to use it to describe a current cricketer is unforgivable. I always thought Andrew Strauss has more class.

  • Baundele on July 6, 2014, 6:38 GMT

    The difference between KP and Strauss etc. is KP speaks his mind, the others do not.

  • bobmartin on July 6, 2014, 6:32 GMT

    Unfortuntely another reason has now been found for the KP supporters to latch on to and continue their bleating about how hard done to he was... However much they whinge and no matter how much Pietersen himself says he wishes it, he will not be back. Common sense would tell anyone with half a brain that even had this furore never materialised, Pietersen in his current form is not worth a place in the England side.... Even in what was after all nothing more than an exhibition match yesterday, with a full house at Lords and millions watching on TV.. and a chance to show the world how great he is.. what did he do ? Nothing...

  • Rally_Windies on July 6, 2014, 6:17 GMT

    How can one be mortified that their true feelings are finally no longer a secrete !

    Struass is probably mortified that KP now knows that Struass was only pretending to be nice to KP's face .....

  • Rupert147 on July 6, 2014, 6:00 GMT

    I was at Lords yesterday and like other England fans, things are becoming very confusing. Most people think it was time to move on from KP but the selectors have showed no signs of doing so with the players they have picked this summer. Also KP shouldn't be abused on air during this historic match but Strauss shouldn't have been the man to leave in 2010 when the textgate took place. It's a shambles sadly and world is laughing at us.

  • Clyde on July 6, 2014, 5:42 GMT

    It is news that that is what Strauss had in him, but there is nothing wrong with expressing one's opinion or its being picked up on a mike, where nearly everything is, these days. Great remark by Hopps on these days of blood, but do we need to bleed because of technology? It is more important to keep talking normally. Free speech takes priority. Who has not had not similar epithets made about him? It is much more dangerous to harbour the sentiment than to express it, for both parties.

  • gdalvi on July 6, 2014, 5:37 GMT

    I still don't understand the original offense of texting. Its a game - not a war where people's lives are at stake. Being Saffer himself, I don't know why he should suddenly pretend his fellow countrymen are suddenly enemies, just because they are playing a game on opposite team? Its a GAME after all - for goodness sake. Are you saying the in football world cup going on - team members from say Manchester U should now pretend to be enemies? Even Indian and Pakistani cricketers were lot friendlier with other even when their countries were not. From all accounts it was just KP calling Strauss something bad (which Strauss has now responded in kind). I can't help but wonder if all this has more to do with dictatorial robotic regime that Flower cultivated that he wanted to make an example of KP where every deviation from his fiat had to be made example of. Please publish.

  • on July 6, 2014, 5:31 GMT

    Pietersen's test batting average is 47.28. Strauss' average was 40.91. Pietersen is no angel but he should be in the England team in the strength if his performances and ability.

    So, by the way, should Monty Panesar. No wonder England beat Sri Lanka when both their best batsmen and best spinner are left our for reasons other than form.

  • DaisonGarvasis on July 6, 2014, 5:13 GMT

    Strauss should be removed from Sky panel. If KP was made to pay for a word he used, the same should apply for Strauss. Unless there is obvious doube standards

  • DaisonGarvasis on July 6, 2014, 5:10 GMT

    Well, only media had kept Strauss and co on a "moral high grond". If you follow the twitter feeds of the English player during and after the KP saga you would know they are not on a moral high ground. Their usual way of operating is - make sarcastic comments about oppositions and opposition fans and when someone reply they would say it was only a joke and ask you to take it in the stride. If anyone else make a similar sarcastic comment they would say how dare you. Its like if you are with us anything goes and if you are not with us, anything and everything you say can be used against you. KP said something and paid for it. But Broad, Strauss and so can say anything and they are not gonna pay any price. ECB and double standards go together.

  • on July 6, 2014, 4:38 GMT

    i would have been far more surprise and shocked if strauss had described ian bell or jimmy anderson in such a way, but look, it's kevin pieterson, a man who lives his life through a series of faux pas, on the cricket field and off. and i'm sure that pietersen will just treat it as yet another private moment that became public and ignore it. what worries me, though, is the involvement of piers morgan, who has a lot of time on his hands these days to get involved in other people's business. having morgan on his side is probably the worst thing for pietersen if he wants to rehabilitate himself in the eyes of the people who fired him. making runs would help much more. i am a former pietersen fan, as are so many of us. he could make it right, and not involving the failed tabloid editor and talk show host in his life would help him do it

  • on July 6, 2014, 4:10 GMT

    The silence of Andy Flower who is the other contributor towards KP's demise from the England set-up,firstly in 2012 and then after the 2013-14 Ashes series is deafening. Especially given Flower's absolute loyalty to Strauss during his stint as captain and silence as Assistant Coach when Pietersen was captain of the Test & One-day side in India in late 2008 BEFORE Peter Moores' sacking from the coaching job first time around. One would have thought that Sky Sports management would have been well aware that their event coverage to Australia does not take in every ad-break that they have between overs. Strauss' silence on the KP dismissal has all but been ended by virtue of this piece of public sledging.

  • Big_Maxy_Walker on July 6, 2014, 3:31 GMT

    KP is looking better in the public eye as time goes by. with the English team being led by a sook of a captain and losing games, and so called gentleman of the modern English team acting like this

  • TAJY on July 6, 2014, 3:06 GMT

    Strauss should not get punished for airing his disdain for Pieterson. We all know they hate each other. His punishment should only be for foul language on air, and there have been many commentators, news anchors, and otherwise who have committed similar offenses and still have their jobs today. Termination would be harsh

  • Sir_Francis on July 6, 2014, 2:03 GMT

    Not a nice word to be heard in public but for someone like Strauss to utter it must mean he really, really doesn't like KP. And probably for a good reason. Still, old news. Not all that interesting.

  • sray23 on July 6, 2014, 1:36 GMT

    At the heart of this is the fact that English cricket (and sport) has absolutely no idea how to manage good players. "Destabilising and undermining our carefully crafted team environment?" Straussy, this isn't launching a space shuttle, it's playing cricket. If I was captain and had a Pietersen, he could undermine or destabilise as many environments as he wants, as long as he just got me the runs!

  • mrhamilton on July 6, 2014, 1:13 GMT

    Mr Hamilton of cornwall here. Strauss is a thoroughly decent and responsible young man while Pieterson epitomizes the vulgarities,the sordid excesses of narcissism that are so prevalent in the social media era. I would say Mr misener everything strauss said us true.well done for saying it too.in a few weeks it'll have blown over.Strauss is a brilliant play by play man on sky

  • on July 6, 2014, 0:36 GMT

    I always admired Straussy...now I really admire him :)

    By the way, there have been plenty of cricket commentators caught on air uttering an oath on British TV, the venerable Tony Lewis springs to mind. I wouldn't have want him sacked and I don't want the apologetic Strauss sacked either!

    Everyone moralising on here, get a life!

  • on July 6, 2014, 0:23 GMT

    Its okay ,he apologised immediately...

  • KiwiPom on July 6, 2014, 0:06 GMT

    The classic storm in a tea cup that people absolutely love to be outraged about.

  • londondoc on July 5, 2014, 23:23 GMT

    It seems the apology is not for the slur but for it being broadcast on air. Surely the 'moral high ground' claiming Strauss should have apologised for using such language against a fellow player- it being broadcast or not is secondary.

  • Greatest_Game on July 5, 2014, 23:07 GMT

    As a sound engineer, I hear amazing stories of this type, & have made a few errors of this type myself.

    The best story I have ever heard! A lavaliere mic is the small mic you see clipped onto the ties of TV studio presenters. For a political event, a lavaliere mic, connected to a wireless belt pack, was clipped to the tie of Al Gore. The mic WAS off in the auditorium - a "one two test" voice test confirmed that - but the feed to the press cameras was ON. (This was not a"live to air" show. TV cameras record to tape, tapes are sent to the broadcast facility, and the footage inserted into the news, etc.)

    Being wireless, Al could walk anywhere, so off he went for a quick , full spectrum bathroom break. And yeah - it was all crystal clear, every last detail. To their credit, the audio was deleted by all, & never broadcast.

    The ONLY mic that is TRULY off, is the mic that is physically unplugged, & not connected to ANYTHING! Otherwise, it is ALWAYS on. And someone is always listening …

  • on July 5, 2014, 22:55 GMT

    Apologise for the word being broadcast but not to Peterson. Thats the guy's oppinion of him and he's chatting with a bunch of fellas who probably agree with him.

  • pb10677 on July 5, 2014, 22:23 GMT

    well.....not sure what will happen next here (if anything) but let's not forget the Dean Jones incident back in 2006. As far as I'm aware, he has never worked on any TV or radio commentary since. So bearing that in mind - it could be that Strauss' punditry career ends up being quite short lived.

  • phermon on July 5, 2014, 21:45 GMT

    I never cease to be amazed how so many cricinfo posters have so much detailed inner knowledge about stuff that is never fully made public - or presume to that knowledge. Top level sportspeople are highly competitive creatures with large egos - some handle that well - others don't. What is amazing to me is that cricketers manage to put up with each other fo so long. In most game codes you get major time off, you swap teams at will etc.etc.. Pietersen, Swan, even Jimmy Anderson might be lovely people in short bursts - but 24/7 for 10 months of the year - give me a break! Naughty Straussy - said what he obviously feels - how refreshing. And I have no doubt Kevin feels the sme about Strauss. Just should find a more appropriate word to use - so demeaning to women!

  • whatawicket on July 5, 2014, 21:37 GMT

    It's nothing to do with the ECB as both are ex England cricketers. Strauss does not like KP it's as simple as that. A S only has his bosses at sky to bother about

  • on July 5, 2014, 21:27 GMT

    There is no room for double standards. We know what happened to Dean Jones. I am surprised to see a person like Andrew Strauss who makes out he is a gentleman of the first order and butter does not melt in his mouth. He should be sacked immediately from all forms of commentating. Let us see what standards are applied now. Disgraceful, disgusting. I do not like some of the things KP had apparently done? No one deserves to receive such remarks.

  • Masking_Tape on July 5, 2014, 21:24 GMT

    He's sorry that he was heard, not sorry that he's talking smack about a International start behind his back. What Strauss said was suppose to be private, same kind of private text massages that got KP.

  • aracer on July 5, 2014, 21:14 GMT

    I should think this is covered by "fair comment". ISTM the Pietersen supporters are confused by the different context of this and his text.

  • JG2704 on July 5, 2014, 21:04 GMT

    @Landl - I think what Strauss said was worse in many ways.

    Yes KP (whatever he said?) was bad because it involved the team but then KP said what he said around the time that England were in a very intense battle with SA to try and save their number 1 ranking. Strauss is not talking with a stressed head in/directly after the heat of battle.

  • Lakpj on July 5, 2014, 20:59 GMT

    Apologizing after this doesn't make any difference. He had told what he actually thinks. Funny thing is that Strauss who is a former England captain a middlesex player happens to say this to a former English player at the bicentenary exhibition match of the home of cricket. This got to be some kind of KARMA.

  • CodandChips on July 5, 2014, 20:58 GMT

    I have respect for Strauss. But it's hard to defend him here.

    Naive of him to get caught. I agree with those who say his apology is for getting caught. But to be honest if he'd not been caught he'd have no need to apologise. People privately mutter opinions all the time, no matter how offensive.

    The real issue is that he said it and it was aired. Really now he should lose his job. Just like Richard Keys and Andy Gray, though that had different circumstances.

    Disagree that Strauss has lost the morale high ground. I'm not condoning what he said, though Pietersen did undermine his leadership. Who knows what else he did? The real problem I have is that Strauss said it when he should have realised it would be broadcast.

  • JG2704 on July 5, 2014, 20:54 GMT

    For me it's unfortunate and extremely surprising but if Strauss isn't sacked then it IS double standards. And no I'm not talking double standards from the ECB but double standards from Sky.

    Sky sacked football pundits for lesser things and what makes it worse for me is that it wasn't said spontaneously in a heated argument or in the heat of a contest. I like Strauss as a person but to me he has to go but Sky - like alot of people these days - accept/tolerate certain behaviour from certain people which they won't from another

  • shillingsworth on July 5, 2014, 20:33 GMT

    Amazing how this dispute continues to generate so much hot air. Two ex international cricketers don't get on. So what? 'Moral high ground', 'hypocrisy', 'double standards' and the like seem particularly overblown phrases in the context of a petty disagreement between two private individuals.

  • Peakfan on July 5, 2014, 20:24 GMT

    Beyond stupid...I'm sorry, but if he's in front of a microphone and doesn't consider for a moment that it might be live, then he deserves what he gets...an untenable position, methinks...

  • on July 5, 2014, 20:04 GMT

    Surely lesson #1 before you're allowed on air is "treat every microphone as live"? This is not just Strauss revealing his nastiness, but also his stupidity. Further, @citizenkc has got it right: the apology was for getting caught. I've long been a fan of Strauss, but I see this as a hanging offence. I fear, though, that Sky might see this as audience bait and give him a bonus.

  • on July 5, 2014, 20:01 GMT

    I don't know why he's apologised to KP. For his language, in error, yes, but if it's what he thinks then that's that.

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:51 GMT

    Strauss was caught out in an unguarded moment and used an inappropriate word while on air, for that he should and did apologise, but I feel he should not have apologised to Pietersen., who comitted an unforgiveable act against Strauss when texting to members of the SA team while playing a series against them. Strauss has every reason to treat Pietersen with utter contempt.I just hope that Strauss does not suffer over this incident and that Pietersen does not gain from it.

  • Hoggy_Bear on July 5, 2014, 19:47 GMT

    Big difference between sending disparaging texts about your current team mate and captain to the opposition during a test match, and a retired player discussing someone in what he thought was a private conversation, IMO.

  • mtfb on July 5, 2014, 19:43 GMT

    " Can't see anything wrong with stating a fact. Strauss might just as well have said that water is wet. "

    Yup. Agree totally.

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:42 GMT

    Cannot tell here amit it's the worst derogatory word!

  • neil99 on July 5, 2014, 19:41 GMT

    Disgraceful. Even though I don't particularly like KP, this is wholly and totally unacceptable.

    Strauss should be sacked immediately.

  • llamedos on July 5, 2014, 19:34 GMT

    Strauss was usually right, and still is. If you moan about Pietersen's career being ended early, don't forget he's worked hard to ruin other people's - Moores, Strauss, and recently Prior. Facts seem to show what a nasty piece of work Pietersen is!

  • CHUMOFS on July 5, 2014, 19:34 GMT

    It is a pity that he did not have the gumption to say it to KP in his face - lacks a backbone?

  • asiacricket1234 on July 5, 2014, 19:32 GMT

    Well what he said is TRUE :P. Should be more careful next time lol

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:29 GMT

    The only problem here is the use of an expletive being broadcast on air. Strauss is no employed by Sky and part of that remit is to criticise current players, given that Strauss has played with some of the people he will criticise might be a bit uncomfortable but that's exactly what Sky is gunning for. In my opinion Pietersen had a good opportunity to prove the England selectors wrong after he was axed but he has failed. Based on current form he simply isn't good enough to play for England.

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:22 GMT

    Shame on Andrew Strauss. take off the tie.

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:22 GMT

    'I apologise unreservedly, particularly to Kevin Pietersen. I am mortified and profusely sorry,' said the former skipper.

    Strauss caught out! Lets see how Sky deals with this incident!

  • citizenkc on July 5, 2014, 19:20 GMT

    "because as a natural conservative he is a proud believer in tradition." And so what exactly has been exposed here? That conservatives use crude language just like anyone else except that they are more hypocritical about it? Thus Strauss on top of using crude language is a hypocrite as well? In my book, that is the graver sin.

    I am pretty sure that none of us would be surprised if we heard the language that "respectable" commentators used off air. So, like all apologies in such cases, Strauss is apologizing that his remark was heard by all, not because he made it. Therein lies the ultimate hypocrisy.

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:14 GMT

    What word did Strauss actually use

  • Cobra0077 on July 5, 2014, 19:11 GMT

    "I apologise unreservedly, particularly to Kevin Pietersen," Strauss said, as his error became public knowledge. "I am mortified and profusely sorry." SORRY STRAUSS THAT IS/WAS YOUR OPINION OF "KP" BUT NOW YOUR ARE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR BEHIND FROM GETTING SACKED FROM THE COMMENTATORS BOOTH. "KARMA" HAS GOTTEN YOU.

  • Westmorlandia on July 5, 2014, 19:09 GMT

    Good a player as Pietersen is, it's hard not to agree with Strauss's sentiments. If Strauss is forgiven, it will be because lots of people basically agree with him.

  • on July 5, 2014, 19:05 GMT

    Strauss is a hypocrite. What happened to his English sense of fair play ? O, I forgot, he was born in South Africa so he is not really English. Is he ?

  • Flat_Track_bullies on July 5, 2014, 18:50 GMT

    My opinion of Straussy has totally changed!

    Couldn't imagine him using those words. True, looks and demeanour can be deceptive!

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:49 GMT

    Can't see anything wrong with stating a fact. Strauss might just as well have said that water is wet.

  • landl47 on July 5, 2014, 18:47 GMT

    There's a world of difference between making derogatory comments about the captain of your side and a media personality making derogatory comments about a player (I'm sure Shane Warne would agree). Strauss' remark was inappropriate and offensive to many people and he should be ashamed of himself. However, it didn't hurt the side.

    Mind you, if he'd used the same description about Piers Morgan, I think practically everyone would agree with him.

  • Tlotoxl on July 5, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    The problem is that until KP retires from all cricket there will be a large number of England fans like myself who say that KP is almost certainly the best English batsman available and sacking him is staggeringly idiotic. He was after all the highest scorer in his last series, you cannot just sack a man of his talent because you are incapable of managing him.

    This is going to a festering sore that will weep for many years.

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:43 GMT

    I don't think we will ever move on from KP!

  • liaqathussain on July 5, 2014, 18:39 GMT

    Sad news , But it does make Kp's situation look a bit better. His always said there was a conspiracy against him and today strauss has gone and proved it,

  • rustyryan on July 5, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    He can be egoistic but KP has done wonders for England cricket and no matter what He doesn't deserve that word.. It's all too easy to forget when KP smashed Warne and co and helped England to regain the ashes after a decade.. Time to remember the great man's quote: Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind..

  • tinkertinker on July 5, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    This is england and strauss is the "right type" so he will be forgiven for this pretty quickly.

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:25 GMT

    Full marks to Strauss for honesty - just a pity he made the mistake of saying it on air.

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:24 GMT

    Andrew Strauss has lost the high moral ground he hid behind, his true colours have been shown now, and it will remain to see if double standards are acceptable now

  • Rahul_78 on July 5, 2014, 18:23 GMT

    KP should do a Ballotelli and next time sport a Shirt with "Why always me?" Message!

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:21 GMT

    Should he be using language like that where it could be picked up by sound recording equipment, no especially after the troubles Jeremy Clarkson has had recently.

    However I am not exactly surprised that Strauss doesn't think a lot of KP, he over shadowed his hundred test and really soured the final playing days of someone who had been a fantastic servant to English cricket. Out scoring any other England batsmen by a mile in the 2009 Ashes.

  • simon_w on July 5, 2014, 18:18 GMT

    and, er, if I'm not mistake, neither is employed by the ECB any more either... but, y'know, apart from, yeah, "double standards"...

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    what is C**t? can u please tell

  • Twinkie on July 5, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    Funny, KP is looking better and better as time goes by! Lots of apologies going his way lately.

  • simon_w on July 5, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    how has this got anything to do with "double standards"? I don't think KP and Strauss are playing in the same team any more, are they?

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  • simon_w on July 5, 2014, 18:14 GMT

    how has this got anything to do with "double standards"? I don't think KP and Strauss are playing in the same team any more, are they?

  • Twinkie on July 5, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    Funny, KP is looking better and better as time goes by! Lots of apologies going his way lately.

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:17 GMT

    what is C**t? can u please tell

  • simon_w on July 5, 2014, 18:18 GMT

    and, er, if I'm not mistake, neither is employed by the ECB any more either... but, y'know, apart from, yeah, "double standards"...

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:21 GMT

    Should he be using language like that where it could be picked up by sound recording equipment, no especially after the troubles Jeremy Clarkson has had recently.

    However I am not exactly surprised that Strauss doesn't think a lot of KP, he over shadowed his hundred test and really soured the final playing days of someone who had been a fantastic servant to English cricket. Out scoring any other England batsmen by a mile in the 2009 Ashes.

  • Rahul_78 on July 5, 2014, 18:23 GMT

    KP should do a Ballotelli and next time sport a Shirt with "Why always me?" Message!

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:24 GMT

    Andrew Strauss has lost the high moral ground he hid behind, his true colours have been shown now, and it will remain to see if double standards are acceptable now

  • on July 5, 2014, 18:25 GMT

    Full marks to Strauss for honesty - just a pity he made the mistake of saying it on air.

  • tinkertinker on July 5, 2014, 18:35 GMT

    This is england and strauss is the "right type" so he will be forgiven for this pretty quickly.

  • rustyryan on July 5, 2014, 18:38 GMT

    He can be egoistic but KP has done wonders for England cricket and no matter what He doesn't deserve that word.. It's all too easy to forget when KP smashed Warne and co and helped England to regain the ashes after a decade.. Time to remember the great man's quote: Eye for an eye makes the whole world blind..