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'Friend' Swann's comments not helpful - Cook

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August 28, 2014

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'Swann's comments unhelpful' - Cook

England captain Alastair Cook has said Graeme Swann's criticism of England's chances at the 2015 World Cup were "not helpful" and emphatically stated that he intended to lead the side into the World Cup in Australia and New Zealand next year.

Earlier this week, Swann had condemned the decision to persist with Cook as England's one-day captain and had said that the team had a "cat in hell's chance" of winning the World Cup if they persisted with an old-fashioned selection approach. Swann had also said that Cook should "not bother playing one-day cricket anymore" and instead allow younger batsmen a chance.

"His remarks were not that helpful - especially from a so-called friend - but he's entitled to his opinion," Cook said after England's 133-run loss [D/L method] to India in the second ODI in Cardiff. "But it's not ideal for me, especially after getting through the summer I've had. I have not spoken to him about it. The phone is always open the other way. It's a little bit disappointing.

"He's a good friend and has been a supporter and it's not helpful at this time because I am going to go and captain in this World Cup. We're going to build up to that and we've got a good chance although obviously if we play like that we aren't going to win many games of cricket."

One of Swann's criticisms was that England's selection policy had been conservative, and reflected "a ten-year-old game". He suggested that the one-day team should be built around youngsters like Alex Hales, James Vince, Jason Roy, Jos Buttler and Eoin Morgan who were more proficient in the format.

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Posted by JG2704 on (September 1, 2014, 13:16 GMT)

@5wombats on (August 31, 2014, 18:21 GMT) I think you may be reading too much into it. However there may be some truth. I get the feeling that England like yes men in their ranks and I wonder if even the outspoken Swann never spoke his mind re Eng's probs as a player. Either that or they took no notice

Posted by 5wombats on (August 31, 2014, 18:21 GMT)

Looks like there was a bit of bad blood in Australia..... That's putting it mildly. There has to be a reason why Swanny walked out of an Ashes tour half way through. Seems like these comments from Swann are the beginnings to some payback. And this is just the tip of the iceberg. Just wait until the gag comes off of Pietersen.... One day we will find out what was going on behind the scenes of that desperate 2013/14 Ashes and one day we will find out the truth about how we handed it to them on on plate because of infighting..... oh yes.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2014, 14:59 GMT)

cook forgot that swann won him the ashes just a year ago

Posted by here2rock on (August 29, 2014, 13:17 GMT)

Cook is right, one lose does not make him a bad captain.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2014, 12:34 GMT)

Swann is right, go for the horses for courses approach and for gods sake dont pick bowlers who can bat, pick bowlers who will win you a game of cricket with the ball, a number 10 that bats might get 10-15 runs but give away double that and not take early wickets, i'd want 4 front line wicket taking threats of bowlers in the side then some allrounder batsmens like ali and root cover spin for the 5th/6th option, James Anderson, Broad, Adil Rashid, Harry Gurney, Steven Finn as possible options for the bowling slots, we need some batting momentum early doors and if we plan to keep ian bell we should have the possibility of bell batting with cook, the batting order should be a little more flexible, if hales is gone get in buttler/morgan earlier or bopara

Posted by whiplash9876 on (August 29, 2014, 10:49 GMT)

When England win, it is all roses, but the moment they have a bad game or two the retired elite and the media can sure kick them into the ground. When it comes to a South African supporter or the powers that be, we never kill one day and love the next. If England is to build a respectable team, harsh words are to be said behind closed doors. Everybody knows that England will be a great test and one day team in two seasons, but nobody seems to have the patience for it to develop.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2014, 9:50 GMT)

@hajltibonhoga u didn't understand my point mate. I meant to say that it's not only t20 that i was talking about and that includes odis too mate. i accept india hasn't done well in the concluded test series but u should also know that indian team is going through a transition phase mate. no offence that Jason Roy is very talented batsmen without any doubt but unless and until u don't prove urself at the international level then wt point are you gonna prove about urself. I also said that he should be included in the current English squad for the remaining odis against india. u got me absolutely wrong mate.

Posted by From_the_Land_of_the_Simmer_Dim on (August 29, 2014, 8:13 GMT)

@Dramit Singh: You say of Jason Roy, "i have seen him bat in a few matches of natwest t20 blast and i must say this guy is really a power house of hitting the cricket ball", and you ask the question, "how much is he good at the international level." This total focus on T20 is what is wrong with Indian cricket in my opinion, and is one of he fundamental reasons for the failure in tests and overseas. Indian cricketers are good at T20, therefore they are good at cricket is a puerile argument. The skills that come from playing T20 migrating into the longer forms of the game is fantastic for the development and health of the game overall, but to use T20 performance as a cricketer's worth is ridiculous.

Posted by JG2704 on (August 29, 2014, 8:05 GMT)

I didn't agree with all the changes Swann was suggesting but certainly alot of them.

Cook seems unable to take even the most constructive of criticisms on the chin.

Swann has no agenda and while England might never win a WC or be the force India/SL/Aus are , there is certainly room for improvement.

Swann was constructive with his criticisms and even gave examples of the stats obsessed staff's methods failing. Think is that Swann is just seeing what every other England fan is seeing and the stats which matter - ie re the players playing in blue or red or whatever the colour is next week - are the ones that are being ignored. Cook says Swann's words/suggestions are unhelpful - How does he know they are unhelpful if he has not tried acting on them?

Posted by sachin_ten_fan on (August 29, 2014, 7:54 GMT)

Cook should remain as a captain. You don't play international cricket with bits and pieces cricketers or players with little experience. If cook can't take the team further in the world cup probably no one else can. He was the captain when they lost the champions trophy final last year. Its easy to understand why Swann who was part of this team just a few months ago is making such comments. Its the media pressure, one has to make sensational comments to be heard at the beginning of one's career. Its similar to making a century or taking a 5-wicket hall on debut. He will regret his comments and not much should be read into them. Anyhow, judjung by the way Indians played from the 3rd test onwards after a spectacular win at Lords (helped by mindless English batting post-lunch on day 5), England should now look forward to the remaining one-dayers. I am afraid to say that there is a high chance that the Indians will once again capitulate. I hope not for the sake of the game.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2014, 7:34 GMT)

mates i am a true and strict indian cricket fan but i do follow world cricket too. I agree totally with some of the English cricket fans. I have seen the likes of Jason Roy, gurney in the natwest t20 blast matches and they do deserve a place in the English odi and t20 side. see mates unless and until you don't give these guys a chance to play at international level how will u know that if they are fit enough to play in international arena. also no matter i will definitely play Gary balance in the team. actually i was absolutely shocked to see he didn't make into the playing eleven. come on England selectors u got to give these players a chance to prove themselves.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2014, 7:16 GMT)

i am hearing a lot about this kid Jason Roy. i have seen him bat in a few matches of natwest t20 blast and i must say this guy is really a power house of hitting the cricket ball. the question arises that how much is he good at the international level that has to be seen. I am a strict indian cricket fan mates but i also do follow world cricket.

Posted by VillageBlacksmith on (August 29, 2014, 6:56 GMT)

Happy to stand behind you as test capt Cooky but not as Odi Capt. Or even as an Odi player. Leaving wide half volleys from Trundlers is painful to watch in both formats (Cooks SR was 30 at one point at Cardiff) but it's criminal in Odis and with bell also slow there is always too much left for the hitters to do... And we lose. A point the commentators have been making for years. And something the paying public have witnessed for years. Repeating the same thing over and over again whilst expecting a different result is??? Hmm. Swann is right im afraid. A total overhaul of personnel and strategy is required to get past the group stages.

Posted by Reggaecricket on (August 29, 2014, 5:17 GMT)

Swann has been one of England's faithful servants over the years. His comments were meant to drive some sense into England's think tank ahead of the WC. Instead of getting all defensive about it, Cook and co., should make vibrant changes to their ODI culture. Cook himself is a mere liability in the IDI side. They should do something drastic like making a bold Captaincy move, introducing young and new one day talents etc. The present line up is boring and does not make up a true blue ODI side

Posted by anver777 on (August 29, 2014, 4:54 GMT)

ENG need to change their game plan & strategies in ODI's before the all important WC 2015, otherwise like Swann said there is very slim hopes for ENG !!!! My Eng XI for next WC is.............. 1.Alex 2.KP 3.Bell/Ballance 4.Root 5.Bopara 6.Morgan 7.Butler 8.M.Ali/Tredwell 9.Stokes/Woakes 10.Broad 11.Anderson

Posted by SirBobJones on (August 29, 2014, 3:34 GMT)

I'm behind Cook all the way on this one. Why would a recent ex-teammate and apparent friend come out and say that in public? Unless they've had a private feud that caused some sort of retaliation, it was a bit of a low act by Swanny and certainly won't help Cook's, or England's, confidence in any way in the lead-up to the WC. There would have been far better and more respectful ways of getting that point across. And as for Cook's response, well I for one would have said something far less restrained than "it isn't helpful" or "he's entitled to his opinion".

Posted by A.Sarkar17 on (August 29, 2014, 3:27 GMT)

Despite being there since the inception of ODIs England has never made it to the top mainly because of muddled planning. Their approach has often been too conservative and asking Cook to captain in ODIs is part of that thinking. Also there is this belief that the batting line up has to be lengthened by players trying to fulfil both roles but cannot be said to be all rounders in the real sense except for the odd good performance. Selecting Stokes, Woakes and Jordan in the same 11 is part of that strategy. players like Ealham, Irani, Holloake brothers, Doug Brown, Maddy, Solanki, Betty, Kabir Ali, Yardy and Dernbach are a few other examples. Though some power players have now arrived, Cook as captain is unlikely to put them to good use. Morgan or Broad is a better choice as captain for the WC if not bringing back KP.

Posted by   on (August 29, 2014, 2:11 GMT)

Maybe Cook should stop taking offence and actually consider that what everyone is saying is true. If there is one thing Dhoni, Cook and their respective boards all share its an incredible denial. For the sake of their fans i hope they wake up to it.

Posted by vik-expert on (August 29, 2014, 1:22 GMT)

I don't see a point why cook has been criticized so much in last 1 year. And every time Shane Warne did commentary on sky sports he mumbled about Clark's captaincy. Clark only won test series in Australia & South Africa which is a no big deal. When you look at he lost 4-0 to India then lost to England in England. Cook is just a young captain give him time and confidence he will win more games for England. Cook only played 89 ODI have 5 Centuries, Ave 38, SR 78. Clark 236 ODI, Ave 44, SR 79 which is smiler to cook. Give him 2 more year and his record will be better then Clark.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 23:10 GMT)

@ Victor Southern : Not taking it personally at all mate but India has scored the maximum number of 300+ scores in ODIs ie 79. So a "even India" on a good day phrase is a bit overrated. Now you can shot back saying that these runs were made on flat tracks an all but going by the stats , it looks a bit different. On the contrary, I would say that in todays Slam bam cricket 300 on the board is the minimum requirement teams have been achieving it quite often.

Posted by yorkshire-86 on (August 28, 2014, 23:07 GMT)

Our ODI team is stuck in a bygone era. Firstly we have players like Cook/Bell that stroke a nice 40 runs off half the allocated overs, before perishing the first time they try to 'accelerate'. Then we have our players who can hit forced to go hard right from the off rather than play themselves in as the Cook/Bells of the team have eaten all the overs. But worst of all is this obsession with the 'two new balls'. Can someone please tell the England selectors and captain that every opener in every format of the game, whether a stout batsmen like Boycott or an out and out pinch hitter like Kaliutharana, is used to facing hard new balls every single time they have gone out to bat?

Posted by JG2704 on (August 28, 2014, 22:44 GMT)

CTD - At least with Derbach , if it came off it would have meant more rest for either/both Jimmy/Broad from SFs

For me I'm thinking Jimmy is starting to look a bit jaded so I'd be tempted to bring Finn in for him

Posted by JG2704 on (August 28, 2014, 22:41 GMT)

2 big criticisms I will aim at Cook and co re selection is (and they're kind of related) is

1 - If they have a selection/tactic idea they will keep going relentlessly with it until it works - to the degree of obsession IMO. This when everyone on the outside sees that it is failing miserably and costing us more results than it is ever likly to gain us victories if the selection/tactics come off

2 - We seem obsessed now with getting our ODI side as near to the test side as possible - regardless of the suitability of the player. And then what happens when a test player comes off in SF? He gets rested meaning we have to put another player in anyway.

There are crossover players who can do all formats well. Guys like Kohli , ABDV , Johnson etc. Fair enough you want them in your side whatever the format.

Posted by kumarcoolbuddy on (August 28, 2014, 22:13 GMT)

May be Swann is right. That is what happened with 2nd ODI. If India gives up on ODIs series also like in tests ENG is not going to win this ODI series. In tests India was dominating till 2dn match. India just gave all the other 3 test matches. Cook should ask himself if he did anything special to win test macthes.

Posted by jb633 on (August 28, 2014, 21:52 GMT)

Cook, please don't make comments like this and just answer your critics with runs. I know he was asked the question but surely he could have just said he is entitled to his opinion and close the matter. First Warne and now Swann, the reason they hurt are because they are bang on correct. Swann was incredibly insightful with what he said and lets hope it causes a change in outlook.

Posted by Whispering_Holding on (August 28, 2014, 20:09 GMT)

Swann is emerging as a very good commentator (listening to him during the CPL). He's intelligent, witty and interesting to listen to; refreshingly modern in his approach to other English commentators who are too 'diet coke' and overly analytical in their comments. Thus, he is spot on in his comments on Cook: he's a Test batsman who is struggling for his best form, to fail at the WC would set him back immensely. Further, the 'new' game requires fast thinking, non conservative players- simply not enough time to over think or brood as Cook does.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 19:57 GMT)

Swan is right, and cook cannot take any criticism, we saw that with KP, Compton etc being dumped for voicing an opinion.

Cook's batting in the ODI format lacks the impetus of a Hales, Buttler, KP, Morgan innings, and its just a matter of time that his test batting wanes as he has been thoroughly worked out by mediocre sides, imagine when he plays Australia and South Africa, they must be champing at the bit to have a go at him

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 19:42 GMT)

Perhaps Swann realises that, facing a run rate of over 6 per over you cannot score at under 4 runs an over for the first 16 overs. By then the pressure on the incoming batsmen is so great that they cannot play themselves in at all. look at Australia, South Africa, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, even India on a good day - they expect to score 300+. That means the openers must keep up with the clock and not leave 7 to 9 to try to score at 10 an over. It also means that your bowlers cannot bowl continual wides and no balls. It is not clear what help David Saker is to the pace bowlers.

Posted by RoBoBobster on (August 28, 2014, 19:37 GMT)

Part of the problem is Cook's lack of practice and the changes in the format. If a top level tennis player, who had played cricket to a decent level till he was 15quit tennis for a a career in test cricket aged 24, they would perhaps have a natural talent, good hand eye coordination, top physical form, good temperament, but simply couldn't match players who grew up playing cricket. When is the last time Cook played a decent season of county cricket? he may be able to adjust, but like anyone he would need to adapt his game. ODIs have changed so much recently his ODI experience counts for little. Just like Trott has done well for Warwickshire this year he can adapt, but he's trying to run before he can walk, and needs to prove his worth at county level, where he can develop against weaker attacks. The higher scores in this years RLODC show what is needed, as whilst the bowling may be weaker this balances with tough English conditions. He may become a good player but he needs to develop

Posted by SevereCritic on (August 28, 2014, 19:36 GMT)

Very poor captaincy by Cook at Cardiff. Overbowled Jordan when clearly the kid was struggling with his line and length. Should have had Root cover some of Jordan's overs in the middle. Root was doing fine - sedately economical without threatening much. Using Anderson for a longer spell was a good positive decision -- go for the kill early on with 2 early wickets already. Lack of a definite second strike bowler also hurt. Cook seems to be a fairly inflexible captain. He comes with a plan (or plans) and sticks to them no matter what. One of your bowlers can always have a bad day -- but using him repeatedly in spite of that is a clear mistake.

Posted by wapuser on (August 28, 2014, 18:48 GMT)

Cook is one of the best Test batsmen England ever had. But nothing more than that. Forget captaincy. He should not be included in limited overs cricket. He is most defensive captain and looks like he is chalked up every time the opposition get on top of the game. Morgan (C), Root (VC), Bopara, Ali, Buttler, Hales, Ballance, Lumb for batting unit. And you cant do without Broa - The wicket taker.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (August 28, 2014, 18:31 GMT)

Sometimes one of my friends points out something that s/he believes is "not helpful" to my MO. I know that person is a true friend & has been for years. There is a foundation to the friendship that allows such criticism -- welcomes it, indeed, -- because I know it comes from a good place. So, how friends (not friendly.. different thing) were/are Swann & Cook? If Cook felt secure enough, he'd not have brushed aside the comment from his (erstwhile?) friend. Of course, Swann has a good point. England needs to shake off the shackles of playing LO cricket of 2004 in 2014. Things have moved on - quite a long way. A lot of WW1 generals were still fighting the colonial wars of C19 in 1914. It didn't work and was an extremely costly exercise. but they learnt, in the end... pls publish.

Posted by linjfan on (August 28, 2014, 18:22 GMT)

I am sure that Cook is a nice guy but he comes over as a schoolboy out of his depth and in denial. A few days ago he bowled a hideous over (grinning) and got a wicket - his jubilation was embarrassing. In the last ODI he took a catch with fingers up and repeated the gesture with a silly grin on his face. Youngsters like Root seem to adore him, as youngsters might with Cook's past impressive record (almost history now as he has been found out), but this guy is not a good leader of any England team (except maybe the Under-19s) and should not be in the ODI teaml. He has not solved his batting issues, but has had some luck and looks increasingly scratchy - shadow of what he was. All criticism seems to hurt him and he says so (oh, Swanny, I thought you were my mate!), even though most of it is justified. Reminds me of a very green young officer in WW1 and the boys follow him over the top because he's keen and talks a good show, just to be gunned down. Man up, Cook!

Posted by THINK_BEYOND on (August 28, 2014, 18:20 GMT)

One aspect is common for both the teams. They are always wrong in team selection. England plays their test team in ODIs and India plays their ODI team in tests :).

Posted by blogossip on (August 28, 2014, 18:08 GMT)

Mr Cooke needs to be reminded that its normal for sportsmen to be criticised by commentators- whether they are friends or not. first he had issues with Warne's remarks and now he's cross with Swann. for arguments sake even if Swann is wrong, it doesnt mean he cant echo his views. Cooke has to learn to adapt with criticism and instead focus more on his cricket rather than views of commnetators- something which Steve Waugh echoed.

Posted by Yorker06 on (August 28, 2014, 17:49 GMT)

I don't know why Cook has to comment on anything from Swann or anyone. He does not need to take it personally. One loss and suddenly they come out swinging. I have a big problem with these former players, especially those who were NEVER really top class, suddenly commenting on all the right and wrong about the current teams and players. That applies to former players from all countries. Swann was never really a great player to begin with. Agree, England will NEVER win an ODI World Cup. By the time most of the England players make it to the ODI side, I think they're just past their prime.

Posted by Speng on (August 28, 2014, 17:46 GMT)

Honestly, I heard what Swann said and I think he's right. England have been hapless at ODIs for longer than Cook's been captain and from before their recent test difficulties. Their batting lineup suffers from an improper distribution of batting styles - Cook and Bell probably too slow at the top and all the inventive, smashing, hustling players further down. Also lets be honest, who really thinks Cook is the best choice for ODI captain? We really know it ought to be Morgan regardless of whether Cook's in the team or not.

Also, England take their Test cricket very seriously and so no matter how good they are at Tests the captain for limited overs should be different even if he plays both forms.

The "so called friend" line was poor. It's Swann's job to provide opinions whether it makes you feel good or not. Swanny doesn't seem like the type to hold back so i reckon he was saying the same thing when he played for England. Cooks comes off like a power hungry dictator in this exchange.

Posted by 200ondebut on (August 28, 2014, 17:38 GMT)

One thing for certain is that Swanns comments had England best interests at heart. Having watched England over the years you can see they play to a rigid plan and without flair. How many times have we watched the top order plod along and expect the lower order to bail them out. The likes of Morgan and Buttler cant turn it on every game - others need to step up to the mark. The fact that we dont have a world class ODI bowling attack is even more reason we need to score more runs.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 17:32 GMT)

Swann is completely right. England always have a severe run rate problem. The players they are going with are good enough but for test cricket only. One day is totally a different format and probably England lacks some solid hitters in their squad. I'm sorry but Cook, Bell, Root, Trott are not ODI players. Personally, I get the same feeling that the chance of winning the World Cup for England is certainly ZERO. They need to boost up their batting lineup. Players like Morgan, Bopara, Hales and even Moeen Ali can show some aggression. No harsh feelings for Cook but the selection panel needs to come out of their conservative style.

Posted by PACERONE on (August 28, 2014, 17:31 GMT)

This Cook guy is so thin skinned.He better not get hit with a ball.Australia know his weaknesses and he will not make runs against them unless Australia change their team and management.he seems to know a lot about the future.He is going to captain against NZ.He could fail and not be dropped.How did he become so powerful?

Posted by KingOwl on (August 28, 2014, 17:08 GMT)

One loss and knives are out again! Cook is better off resigning. Unless he wins every single series, people will always be gunning for him now.

Posted by getgopi on (August 28, 2014, 16:27 GMT)

Alastair is right. Swann's comments were not helpful. They were enlightening and, as always, entertaining.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (August 28, 2014, 15:17 GMT)

@Alex Spurge, true, but hes been bombarded with criticism since the middle of last summer, about being too negative (vs NZ headlingly, Oval), then over the winter. Eventually you just hear the negatives rather than the positives, and I really believe that this is the position that Cook is in at the moment.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 14:50 GMT)

cook and bell should be dropped with immediate effect... also their coach should be fired... england can not think about winning the wc at all... I would be surprised if ENG could score a 300+ score in a one day match before the WC. why Bell has left the ball yday? he is still in test mode and one day match is only 50 overs and u should always look for runs... but Bell left the ball... this is the very reason that swan said that england team plays old fashioned cricket... sorry dear cook... u have accept that matter...

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 14:39 GMT)

Why is it everytime criticism is leveled at Cook, he replies by saying it's "not helpful", or a personal attack against himself. A great leader is able to take criticism. Cook once again looked rather clueless in the field. Against good captains like Clarke, formerly Graeme Smith ect, he will be found wanting. His only saving grace is Dhoni is a worse captain! England's selection policy at present is to have players who tow the line to the dictators Downton, Moores and Cook; yes men if you would. Players with personality and opinions, such as KP, Bopara, Swann (did he retire?) are forced out of the team and as such we are left with mediocre cricketers like Jordan, Woakes, Ali (who the Indians players for "spin" when there was none) and Tredwell. Aside from the obvious, to include aggressive players like KP and Bopara, failing that James Vince, Jason Roy, Danny Briggs, James Taylor do exist... or perhaps they're not the "yes men" the ECB love?

Posted by Fan_of_test_cricket on (August 28, 2014, 14:23 GMT)

There are 3 points which come to mind- 1) Alastair Cook is undoubtedly a great Test batsman, not withstanding his current lean form. But in ODIs he seems a part-time player, just as Stuart Binny in Tests seems a part-time player.England could do with a better opening pair in ODIs. 2) Ravi Bopara has greater claim to an ODI spot than Cook. He can, in fact, replace Cook as an opening batsman. 3) Regardless of their squad and captain, England never look like a side capable of winning the World Cup, because they never play ODIs seriously. Nasser Hussain's ODI side was the last side which looked capable of winning an ODI series.

For the sake of cricket, I hope India learns a bit from England in Tests and England learns a bit from India in ODIs. However, I don't think India has much chance in the World Cup either. Australia, SA and NZ look better ODI sides.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 14:11 GMT)

England has a very conservative approach to cricket as a game - this is reflected more in their ODI & T-20 performances. The Captain must be more adventurous, willing to take risks with bowling changes, select daring & hard hitting batsmen. Today England has bowlers who can possibly contain run in Test cricket - but ODIs & T-20s are unconventional forms of cricket - particularly where batting is concerned. A good thinking spinner or a medium pacer with variety in delivery, will prove o be more successful. ECB is having their own T-20 & ODIs now - they must induct successful captain & players from this format into their National Team - irrespective of whether they have played Test Cricket or not. Unconventional game require unconventional decisions to succeed.

Posted by Ala-Wageda-Goa on (August 28, 2014, 13:54 GMT)

Cook is definitely blocking off an arrival of aggressive opener for England, in the ODI format that they need badly as in many other teams. He just managed to re-establish his place in test team thanks to poor Indian performance, that is typical of outside subcontinent. He is trying to gain the same at ODI but at what cost?

Posted by ruester on (August 28, 2014, 13:49 GMT)

I'm intrigued that supporters of Cook always talk about his strike rate etc. Truth is I can't remember Cook ever scoring a blistering hundred to get England off to a flyer. India won the World Cup with stroke makers through out the side on subcontinent conditions. we went with same old steady eddy batsman like Cook and Bell and failed yet again. remember we have played the same way for years and have not won the World Cup. my memory may be going but didn't England get hammered in the last ODI. Series we played in. Australia.... Oh yes... That was part of the worst England tour in its history. I would much rather change tactics and play our big hitters and lose than go with the same dependable style and lose yet again. All you need to know about Cook and the England selectors is that. Hales made his debut yesterday, probably two years later than he should and another devastating batsman who has opened for England is deemed not selectable and is being wasted playing T20 once a week.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 13:39 GMT)

Can't agree with Swann that England's game is 10 years out of date. 20 would be more accurate. Cook is the wrong captain (he's an adequate, if conservative, test captain), and shouldn't be in the ODI side. Having Bell and Root at 3 and 4 simply compounds the problem (you can have one consolidator in the top 4, but not 3). Sadly, the selectors don't appear to have a clue about modern ODI cricket (or perhaps any influence on team selection) or these obvious problems would be remedied. Another issue in Cardiff was the lack of any variety in the quick bowling. Gurney and/or Finn should have played (probably both, with Anderson given a rest). This allowed Raina and Dhoni to settle in, and eventually hit out.

How does Cook KNOW he is going to captain England at the World Cup. Is he unsackable? Does he know Giles Clarke's dirty secrets? (Not all of them, surely, that's too much for one man!)

Posted by pom_don on (August 28, 2014, 13:36 GMT)

They may not be helpful comments but they are 100% right, Cook has been a great asset to the England test side & no doubt will remain so you don't score the amount of runs he has without being good, but natural captain he is not in any format & in ODI he shouldn't even be close to the team............again for the record neither should Moores be anywhere near the England team either! The truth hurts but it is better out in the open.

Posted by mantrathegreat on (August 28, 2014, 13:20 GMT)

Replace Chris Jordan with Ravi Bopara who is a much better batsman and a handy bowler.No need for Ben Stokes who is not playing particularly well and either Moeen Ali or Samit Patel would be much more useful as they are both better batsman than Stokes. Preferably Patel because his left-arm-orthodox would complement Tredwell's offspin.

Posted by Sexysteven on (August 28, 2014, 12:47 GMT)

Cook does deserve aplace in the tests and odis as a batsmen only he certainly doesn't deserve to be captain cos he ain't agood captain the way he reacts to criticism is childish cos most of it is justified we ain't getting personal we are calling it the way we see he's afine batsmen but acrap captain that's the way I see it if England don't do well at the World Cup and then lose in the ashes which I think will happen and they would off gone backwards and this year has been wasted where they could of made progress this year if they made a rave call and found amore positive captain in order to go ford but as usual England have put all there eggs in the Cook basket lets hope it don't go wrong for them cos it will be along way back if it does fall apart

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 12:46 GMT)

truth is always bitter Mr cook. . swann is absolutely right because this tym world will b won either Aussies or proteas

Posted by Amatheist on (August 28, 2014, 12:37 GMT)

Ok, They are doubts about Cook's captaincy and India have ensured his place will not be affected atleast in the Test arena by handing over wins to England. England did not win because of Cook's extraordinary captaincy! Cook has to stop reacting comments in the media, his approach very much seems that he is trying to secure his place as the captain by reacting to the media, rather than on the cricket field. Swann is spot on, Cook is not one day captain neither a batsman. Cook is highly insecure, no doubt about that.

Posted by dragoman on (August 28, 2014, 12:12 GMT)

Tough for Cook to get criticism from a friend. But tougher that Swann is entirely right.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 12:07 GMT)

And while we're at it, why is the media reporting (and everybody saying) that Swann 'criticised' Cook?! He didn't: he repeatedly said that Cook AND Bell (who seems to have been dropped by the wayside) are fantastic batsman, but he (Swann) doesn't believe they should be 'bothering' with ODIs anymore, because he thinks their test games would improve as a result. He stated, again repeatedly, that he doesn't think they should be sacked and that he wants to see them both do well.

Media bandwagons...

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 12:03 GMT)

Hang on. First, describing a comment as 'not helpful' is not the same as criticising the person who made it. Second, Cook was asked the question by a journalist - what do you want him to say? 'Yeh I totally agree I shouldn't be in the team'?

He shouldn't be, for the record, but when he's specifically asked about what people are saying about him you can't very well criticise him for answering.

Posted by ArthursAshes on (August 28, 2014, 11:53 GMT)

It would appear that Swann wants a team of "hitters", not just for the future but also the world cup. This he sees as the modern way, that the accumulator types like Cook, Bell and Root don't have a future in ODI's.

Maybe, but India, one of the world cup favorites, won yesterday by having a couple of accumulators in their side. R Sharma has a career scoring rate of 78.25 and Rahane 73.60, Cook is 77.98, Bell 76.03. The difference is that India have a number of consistent hitters around them scoring at around 90, England don't. Accumulators and hitters both failed for England yesterday. Hales did nicely on debut, but even he was scoring at 63.49. India bowled well in helpful conditions. Give them credit.

Cook is going to be the World Cup captain so people had better get used to it. He may well "retire" once its over, in which case I suspect Taylor will be one of the favorites to be the next captain.

Posted by Harlequin. on (August 28, 2014, 11:31 GMT)

What kind of world does Cook live in if he thinks England have a chance of winning the WC?!

I am well in the camp that states Cook shouldn't be test captain (even after the series win), because he's too unresponsive and unimaginative. And if he's too unresponsive and unimaginative for test cricket, then that is magnified when you get to limited overs.

If not for a chance at success, then at least for entertainments sake, stick in the big guns. I would rather see Hales, Taylor, Roy, Morgan and Buttler shot out for 150 in 25 overs than the current lot.

And seriously, give Jimmy a rest, he doesn't need to play.

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 11:31 GMT)

well i think swaan said what he felt was right. why does cook has to say such things to the media. I want to ask cook that does he deserve a place in the England odi side. well i don't think so. Mr cook first just go and work on your batting in odis. u defeated india in the test series and saved ur captaincy some how. had jadeja not dropped that catch of yours in the first innings of Southampton test the result of the test series could have been entirely different. u are damn lucky guy Mr aliaster cook.

Posted by serious-am-i on (August 28, 2014, 10:59 GMT)

Cook has serious issues, he seems to be criticizing anyone who criticizes him, first it was Warne, now its Swann. Cook needs to make his bat do the talking & use his brain in making clever changes but nah... he seems to be more focused on what some "ex-player" says about him. Cook doesn't deserve to be a captain nor be in the ODI squad, matches are played on bouncy Aus & NZ wickets not swinging English wickets, period.

Posted by MarkTaffin on (August 28, 2014, 10:16 GMT)

@ YorkshirePudding. Can't agree. All Cook has had is people expressing their personal opinion. If Cook was a better captain, had had better results in Oz and early season, he would have received mostly praise. Since the Ageas, however, he has had good media reviews, lots of praise for his character, regardless of not batting to up to scratch. A criticism from Swann and he's back to throwing a minor tantrum. He needs to ignore it and get on with trying to win, and prove the crits wrong.

Posted by Chris1881 on (August 28, 2014, 9:59 GMT)

Whatever Cook's merits as an ODI captain, Swann has made a brilliant start to his career as a pundit. A headline story on Cricinfo & a bite from the England captain.

Posted by notimeforcricket on (August 28, 2014, 9:21 GMT)

We tried one day specialists before and often they just can't do it agains the top nations. A big diffference between smashing the Derbyshire attack around and coming up against Steyn, Johnson etc. That said, having watched finals day of the T20 in England, you could argue that Lancashire would have won if Anderson not played. I would not advocate replacing the entire test side. you need some continuity and experience. In the long term Cook is a test player and, if we let him focus on tests we may get anohter 7 or 8 years out of him. If he plays ODIs as well (he is not even that good at them), he will burn out much sooner. Keep Bell and Root (Balance in reserve) out of the test batsmen. Bopara must play - although it may be that they have left him out knowing what he can do. Jordan and Stokes are too risky to play together(1 or the other) and Moeen should play also. Variety in a 6 man bowling attack is important (hence Bopara/Moeen). i heard Bell is quite an imaginative captain.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (August 28, 2014, 9:14 GMT)

@MarkTaffin, to be honest its been a sustained attack from all quarters for most of the summer, and I'd really like to see how many people could tough out the sort of opinions hes been criticised over, its mainly been in the last 8 months, but even in Aus he could do no right, and last summer when England were winning games he was being pilloried by the media, for not being 'aggressive' enough with declarations, so that if England had lost he would have been torn to shreds.

PS: I missed JJ Roy from the list of batting options.

Posted by PPL11 on (August 28, 2014, 9:00 GMT)

Well in an ODI World Cup anything can happen, so lets hope England do well, few things i can point out from this Team is

1) England Need Cook and Bell to play the world cup as you cant have all big hitters in your team you need guys who can bat for 20 - 25 overs

2) England don't really need too much of all rounders i think once broad is in they will have Jimmy, Broad to share the new ball and wakes & trade well to ball in middle overs which will be very effective

So it sums up england do have a chance in the world cup, they have to play more positive ODI cricket !!

Posted by MarkTaffin on (August 28, 2014, 8:38 GMT)

Second time Cook's had a bit of a breakdown after criticism from an ex-player after having a go at Warnie for voicing an opinion earlier this summer. Makes one wonder if Cook really is tough enough for the flack he'll get when the real hard work starts - this winter's World Cup and next year's Tests.

Posted by sarangsrk on (August 28, 2014, 8:31 GMT)

I agree with Swann's comments completely and this is not just about Cook but England as a team. They are a new bunch of guys coming together now for the WC in 6 months. Teams like Aus, SA, Ind, NZ have nucleus of their ODI team playing for last 2 years or so. Those guys know who needs to what in situations like India were in yesterday when Raina played a superb knock. My point of view is that Eng ODI team is just like Indian test team. They have started for a key campaign very late with very fresh bunch.

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (August 28, 2014, 8:21 GMT)

Swanny is effectively correct, however I can understand Cooks stance, especially after the press went after him at the start of the summer, hes basically become entrenched in a position.

I suspect if Swann had had a quiet word with other former team mates like Strauss, Nass, and Vaughan, he may have accepted that he isnt suited to the ODI format, of big hitting and he could spend his time preparing for Next year at Essex for the CC run in, and getting tactics sorted for the Ashes.

The squad for the ODI's is about 4 players light, these are Vince, Taylor, Bairstow, and Ballance. IF the England selectors and ECB are really interested in winning a WC these four need to be included in a squad that have will have about 20 games in various conditions before the WC.

Posted by riaz.m on (August 28, 2014, 8:12 GMT)

Cooke is the perfect "wise old" head leader to guide the likes of Hales, Roy and Vince. However it's about time he had support from the likes of Morgan and Bell to up their game. Cooke's numbers (average near 40 at a strike rate of nearly 80) are no worse than those of Bell .

Posted by   on (August 28, 2014, 8:04 GMT)

'There's none so blind as those that won't see'. Watching Cook scratching around, in the last ODI was embarrassing for an England supporter, and sadly that goes for Bell too. I would not be surprised if Dhoni had a plan to keep Cook on strike and try not to take his wicket. 19 runs with a strike rate of 57 says it all. Swann is clearly right.

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