Champions Trophy 2013 May 27, 2013

Australia 'focused on Champions Trophy'

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Michael Clarke will return home from England in September either gutted at an Ashes defeat or exultant at a triumph. But Clarke flew out of Sydney on Sunday night conscious that Australia's near four-month tour begins not with the main attraction but with a curtain-raiser that has as its reward another prize: the Champions Trophy. And while it is not in the same league as the Ashes in terms of prestige, Clarke believes a strong start to the trip is important to Australia's Test chances.

Australia's one-day and Test squad members will arrive in England from various ports of call - some have been at home, some at the IPL, some in county cricket and coach Mickey Arthur has been in South Africa. Some have been playing cricket, some have been training at home. Seven members of the Champions Trophy group will also take part in the Ashes, and Clarke hopes the tour begins on a high, especially when Australia meet England in a group match at Edgbaston on June 8.

"I'm looking forward to certainly getting stuck into some cricket," Clarke told reporters in Sydney on Sunday night. "It's been a good break for guys to train, get fit, get some batting and bowling under their belts, but I think everyone, the players, media, the public, are well and truly looking forward to seeing some cricket. Obviously the build-up and the talk is going to be about the Ashes, but for us as a team we're very focused on the Champions Trophy.

"Our record is outstanding in the Champions Trophy, we've won the last couple. This is the last time we'll have a Champions Trophy tournament so the motivation is going to be there. If we can have success in this one-day tournament and drag that confidence and momentum into the first Test I think that will be very handy."

Australia begin with two Champions Trophy warm-up matches against West Indies and India in Cardiff on Saturday and Tuesday next week, before they move on to the tournament proper and group clashes with England, New Zealand and Sri Lanka. Should they make it to the final, they will have only a few days before their first Ashes warm-up, a four-day fixture against Somerset beginning on June 26.

Another tour match against Worcestershire follows in the lead-up to the first Test and those two games will be important for Australia to assess their best XI and particularly their batting line-up, given the struggles of the batsmen in India and the presence of five potential openers in the Ashes party. Clarke said Australia would take their challenges as they came, first with the one-day tournament and then with the Ashes.

"We know we've got a lot of work to do to have success in both sections of this tour, in regards to the Champions Trophy and then the Ashes," he said. "We've got to play some amazing cricket, but I know all the players are up for the challenge.''

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • popcorn on June 2, 2013, 1:57 GMT

    This Australian Squad has a balance whichis capable of winnng The Champions Trophy AND The Ashes. Warner and Hughes are flashy,One Day and T20 players so they should be in the Champions Trophy side ONLY. I would have liked George Bailey in the Test Side because he is a senior pro, has good Test match Technique unlike Hughes and Warner. Khawaja is a Test Player, not a One Dayer.So if the Aussie Think Tank is shrewd they will drop Hughes and Warner from the Test side,take Usman Khawaja at no.3 in the Test Side,Cowan and Rogers to open,Watson at 4,Clarke at 5, Haddin at 6, Wade at 7.

  • on June 1, 2013, 2:43 GMT

    my team for icc champions trophy of australia must comprises of 1.warner.2. hughes 3.watson 4.clarke 5.baiely 6.wade7.clint mackay 8.faulkner9.mitchelljohnson 10.marsh 11.doherthy

  • ADARSH100 on May 31, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    Aussies is in the period of transition and is filled with new players. It maynot perform well this time bt it may perform well in WC 2015. Bowling lineup is the weakest compared to all the teams.

    my 11 would be 1) Warner 2) Watson 3) Clarke 4) Bailey 5) Wade 6) Maxwell 7) Johnson 8) Mithchell Marsh 9) Faulkner 10)Starc 11)Doherty.

  • Crazy.Frog on May 31, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    @AKS286 What makes you stunned on my comments. I gave answer to Meety & late_sense04 on their meaningless comment, about what meety said THE FACTS in your comments. I show him the fact.

  • Crazy.Frog on May 31, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @late_sense 04- First read the whole comment then wait for your late sense. what I was wrote "etc are selected on the basis of T20 and they have also the passport of test on the basis of T20 or ODI." W.Jaffer is not selected in the test team he has great record but raina, kohli, yuvi, were selected. S.Ramesh, Badrinath, SS Das, Kambli, Yuosuf Pathan are not selected in test team. why??? they are better players but on the basis of T20 & ODI raina, kohli, sehwag (He proved himself), yuvi,were selected.

  • AKS286 on May 30, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    OMG what happens here who is Crazy.Frog? I'm stunned with his/her comments. And Latecut_04 I'm not an Indian but I really like the comments of crazy.Frog specially about @Meety what he said to me about fact comments.

  • latecut_04 on May 30, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    Crazy.Frog on (May 30, 2013, 6:14 GMT) --We surely differ in our opinion/view point but thats itTheres nothing more to it..Hope this is clear.Regarding the long 'list'of players you have cited as selected bassed on T20:"MSD"-T20 was not even existant when he got ODI call against Pakistan in 2005."Warner"-Yes,he got test call based on T20 and the jury is still out regardng whether he should be long term Aus opener in tests."KP"-Really i dont need to answer and remind about Ashes2k5,do i?"Bresnan, Morgan, Bravo, Pollard, Sunil Naraine, Samuels, Sammy, Raina, Kohli"---Likes of Raina,Kohli got calls bsaed on U19/ domestic performance.Same applies to Bresnan,Morgan,Samules and the like.The point to be noted is those who have made it big in int'l cricket were selected on the basis of domestic record and those who were chosen based on T20(very few)have either flopped or are still suspects.

  • latecut_04 on May 30, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    @Crazy.Frog(May 30, 2013, 6:00 GMT) -I assume you are @Aks286.Thanks for your response and clarification but again i may have to disagree with a few of your observations.Punter axed by Clarke?well when he quit everyone thought it was the right decision(many thought it was long overdue..)He only made tons against visiting Indian pop gun attack in 2011 which extended his career and ultimately proved detrimental to Aus cricket Vs sides like SA.Regarding Katich yes even i was disappinted about his non inclusion especially considering the likes of Warner made his debut via that route.But blaming it entirely on Clarke may be a bit too much.MJ is not fit to be selected for away tours (tests)for many reasons.Haddin is back in the squad.when he played in 2k10-11 Ashes many wanted him to retire but his replacements proved 'just not good enough' w.r.t exp and temparament and IF Clarke didn't want him in the side I think Haddin would have been left out of the touring party...any thoughts

  • Crazy.Frog on May 30, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    @ latecut_04 now a days 20-20 is quite similar to 50-50. As you said "T20 performance does not really matter because in ODI a spinner is expected to bowl 10 full overs and take wickets" So Fella let me tell you Warner, Bollinger, Starc, Voges, Faulkner, Dan Christian, Moises, Maxwell, Wade, Bailey, Marsh brothers, Smith,Coulter Nile, AD Hales, Lumb, KP, dernbach, Tredwell, Bresnan, Morgan, Bravo, Pollard, Sunil Naraine, Samuels, Sammy, Raina, Kohli, MSD, Ashwin, Rohit, Jadeja, Thisara, Senanayke, Mendis, Miller, FaF, Mclaren, Albie, De cock, etc are selected on the basis of T20 and they have also the passport of test on the basis of T20 or ODI.

  • Crazy.Frog on May 30, 2013, 6:00 GMT

    @Meety now I will correct my non fact comment.- Aus won the previous Ashes & WC, SA lost to Aus & Aus whitewashed India. Katich, Punter,Hussey, Haddin, MJ are not axed by Clarke, Aus is No.1 team in ODI & Test and Beer was the worst spinner in BBL. @ latecut_04 on (May 30, 2013, 5:38 GMT) I'm not Indian fella.

  • popcorn on June 2, 2013, 1:57 GMT

    This Australian Squad has a balance whichis capable of winnng The Champions Trophy AND The Ashes. Warner and Hughes are flashy,One Day and T20 players so they should be in the Champions Trophy side ONLY. I would have liked George Bailey in the Test Side because he is a senior pro, has good Test match Technique unlike Hughes and Warner. Khawaja is a Test Player, not a One Dayer.So if the Aussie Think Tank is shrewd they will drop Hughes and Warner from the Test side,take Usman Khawaja at no.3 in the Test Side,Cowan and Rogers to open,Watson at 4,Clarke at 5, Haddin at 6, Wade at 7.

  • on June 1, 2013, 2:43 GMT

    my team for icc champions trophy of australia must comprises of 1.warner.2. hughes 3.watson 4.clarke 5.baiely 6.wade7.clint mackay 8.faulkner9.mitchelljohnson 10.marsh 11.doherthy

  • ADARSH100 on May 31, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    Aussies is in the period of transition and is filled with new players. It maynot perform well this time bt it may perform well in WC 2015. Bowling lineup is the weakest compared to all the teams.

    my 11 would be 1) Warner 2) Watson 3) Clarke 4) Bailey 5) Wade 6) Maxwell 7) Johnson 8) Mithchell Marsh 9) Faulkner 10)Starc 11)Doherty.

  • Crazy.Frog on May 31, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    @AKS286 What makes you stunned on my comments. I gave answer to Meety & late_sense04 on their meaningless comment, about what meety said THE FACTS in your comments. I show him the fact.

  • Crazy.Frog on May 31, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @late_sense 04- First read the whole comment then wait for your late sense. what I was wrote "etc are selected on the basis of T20 and they have also the passport of test on the basis of T20 or ODI." W.Jaffer is not selected in the test team he has great record but raina, kohli, yuvi, were selected. S.Ramesh, Badrinath, SS Das, Kambli, Yuosuf Pathan are not selected in test team. why??? they are better players but on the basis of T20 & ODI raina, kohli, sehwag (He proved himself), yuvi,were selected.

  • AKS286 on May 30, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    OMG what happens here who is Crazy.Frog? I'm stunned with his/her comments. And Latecut_04 I'm not an Indian but I really like the comments of crazy.Frog specially about @Meety what he said to me about fact comments.

  • latecut_04 on May 30, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    Crazy.Frog on (May 30, 2013, 6:14 GMT) --We surely differ in our opinion/view point but thats itTheres nothing more to it..Hope this is clear.Regarding the long 'list'of players you have cited as selected bassed on T20:"MSD"-T20 was not even existant when he got ODI call against Pakistan in 2005."Warner"-Yes,he got test call based on T20 and the jury is still out regardng whether he should be long term Aus opener in tests."KP"-Really i dont need to answer and remind about Ashes2k5,do i?"Bresnan, Morgan, Bravo, Pollard, Sunil Naraine, Samuels, Sammy, Raina, Kohli"---Likes of Raina,Kohli got calls bsaed on U19/ domestic performance.Same applies to Bresnan,Morgan,Samules and the like.The point to be noted is those who have made it big in int'l cricket were selected on the basis of domestic record and those who were chosen based on T20(very few)have either flopped or are still suspects.

  • latecut_04 on May 30, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    @Crazy.Frog(May 30, 2013, 6:00 GMT) -I assume you are @Aks286.Thanks for your response and clarification but again i may have to disagree with a few of your observations.Punter axed by Clarke?well when he quit everyone thought it was the right decision(many thought it was long overdue..)He only made tons against visiting Indian pop gun attack in 2011 which extended his career and ultimately proved detrimental to Aus cricket Vs sides like SA.Regarding Katich yes even i was disappinted about his non inclusion especially considering the likes of Warner made his debut via that route.But blaming it entirely on Clarke may be a bit too much.MJ is not fit to be selected for away tours (tests)for many reasons.Haddin is back in the squad.when he played in 2k10-11 Ashes many wanted him to retire but his replacements proved 'just not good enough' w.r.t exp and temparament and IF Clarke didn't want him in the side I think Haddin would have been left out of the touring party...any thoughts

  • Crazy.Frog on May 30, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    @ latecut_04 now a days 20-20 is quite similar to 50-50. As you said "T20 performance does not really matter because in ODI a spinner is expected to bowl 10 full overs and take wickets" So Fella let me tell you Warner, Bollinger, Starc, Voges, Faulkner, Dan Christian, Moises, Maxwell, Wade, Bailey, Marsh brothers, Smith,Coulter Nile, AD Hales, Lumb, KP, dernbach, Tredwell, Bresnan, Morgan, Bravo, Pollard, Sunil Naraine, Samuels, Sammy, Raina, Kohli, MSD, Ashwin, Rohit, Jadeja, Thisara, Senanayke, Mendis, Miller, FaF, Mclaren, Albie, De cock, etc are selected on the basis of T20 and they have also the passport of test on the basis of T20 or ODI.

  • Crazy.Frog on May 30, 2013, 6:00 GMT

    @Meety now I will correct my non fact comment.- Aus won the previous Ashes & WC, SA lost to Aus & Aus whitewashed India. Katich, Punter,Hussey, Haddin, MJ are not axed by Clarke, Aus is No.1 team in ODI & Test and Beer was the worst spinner in BBL. @ latecut_04 on (May 30, 2013, 5:38 GMT) I'm not Indian fella.

  • latecut_04 on May 30, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    @AKS286 (May 30, 2013, 5:15 GMT) -Should say your latest post makes some sense(albeit unknowingly) especially compared to the earlier ones.It is documented that Aus currently have an issue finding a quality spinner and in the words of an ex Aus cricketer, selectors are 'shaking the tree' hoping to find a single fruit.Yes his FC record is way below average compared to most other international spinners but he would probably play for Oz if at all a spinner is played in CT for reasons mentioned in my earlier post.Since it is Aus and they have had atleast 1 quality spinner (almost) always,the search is on and makes news.For SA or yester year Eng this would not have made news since they hardly had any/will find any.I picked Aus and Eng as favorites purely on cricket logic.NOW if Meety comes back with FC averages of Starc,Pattinson,MJ and copmare them with our own Vinay Kumar's/Ishant's(worst for ANY bowler to have played 50 tests) average in any form will you stand a chance..let us see...

  • AKS286 on May 30, 2013, 5:15 GMT

    @Latecut_04 Fella Bracken just played 5 test in his whole career he don't got chance to prove himself in Test. and Starc is the permanent member of Test side.FC record of Beer is better than Doherty and less ODI can't be compared. Doherty is first choice but your first choice is 46 wickets in 43 matches awesome !

  • latecut_04 on May 30, 2013, 4:39 GMT

    @Meety on (May 29, 2013, 23:27 GMT) Dhoni was known to back youngsters for an agile team(CB series 2008 being a sterling example)but his endless backing of the likes of Gambhir,Vijay,Jadeja etc over someone like Rahane(he is still not in the squad;deserves chance anyday)has eroded his credibility w.r.t selections to an extent.Talking about Pathan the problem is even if he bowls as 5th bowler he may concede too many runs which will nullify his contribution with the bat/passable fielding.(this is based on his current performance in Ind domestic circuit.)Also in Aus India did have problems regarding bowling..didn't we.Pkumar andBKumar would have been absolutely suited to Eng conditions.Pkumar is not being properly managed and cant see much of Dhoni's leadership there.Clearly he has backed Jadeja to the hilt and he may have yielded results in Asia but can he repeat this in Eng?Chances are very slim considering he is an ODI batsman who tweaks occassionally.Hope message is clear..contd..

  • Meety on May 29, 2013, 23:27 GMT

    @latecut_04 on (May 29, 2013, 8:18 GMT) - I think Pathan is getting picked now, as Dhoni is really worried about the 5th bowling option in ODIs. The problem Dhoni had in Oz a year or so ago, was with Gambhir, Ashwin, Pathan, Tendulkar, Sehwag & Zaheer - they had a sluggish fielding team. That will still be a problem with Pathan & Ashwin anywhere near the team. I didn't mention Ishan as IMO, whilst he is not a good fielder I think he tries harder than anyone in the Indian team (at least the bowlers anyway).

  • on May 29, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    Australia's record in Champions Trophies was quite poor until the 2006 edition. They played brilliantly in the last two editions and were victorious. It's quite obvious that this team isn't nearly as strong as the ones that played in 06 and 09. They have excellent players in Watson and Clarke and they'll have to lead from the front this time. Others like Warner, McKay, Bailey and Starc have done well in the past but haven't proved themselves over a considerable period of time. I would still consider this Australian side as one of the favorites; they play well as a team and their seamers are likely to benefit from the conditions in England. The batting is okay; quite a few of the batsmen aren't very consistent but you can live with that for ODIs.

  • SevereCritic on May 29, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    Never write off Aussies from a major ODI tournament. They almost always perform no matter how much down and under they might seem. This Aussie squad, strangely enough, is the closest an Aussie side has been in the last 20 years to be called an underdog. Yet, I wont be be surprised if they cruise their way into the finals.

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    @Nicely_Time.Man (May 29, 2013, 9:22 GMT) --Your pick is basically the entire participating contingent.Come on we have to taper our choices and 'predict' a lesser number of teams although all this pre tournament talk is a bit farcical!!Regarding NZ i think they will be a force to reckon with even if conditions are not cloudy.Southee,Martin,Bazz,Ross and Co should prove to be dark horses.Add the fact they always punch above their weight in shorter formats and you have a serious contender.Eng as one favorite is a no brainer.I will add SA,WI and Aus to the lot(keeping in mind conditions.).Asian teams do't have much of a chance like in 99 WC although i think 1 of them may reach semi finals beating WI.

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    @AKS286-Beg your pardon but your comments about OZ players are mostly erratic. 'Beer is the best performer in BBL'--T20 performance does not really matter because in ODI a spinner is expected to bowl 10 full overs and take wickets which require much more skill than limiting the scoring rate to less than6. 'Starc is having pathetic test record'-His record is excellent in ODIs and there is no reason why he cant be a Nathen Bracken(No:1ODI bowler for a long time BUT not many tests)AND Starc hasn't played enough test matches to be written off from the longer version .Has PACE which helpsANY1.'Oz fans told us that lyon is the best spinner in the history of cricket.'-Doherty is their first choice spinner in ODI and often he takes wickets when batsman attacks him.You thinkA.Voges deserved selection but fail to name the only 30+player who didn't play for wrong reasons and would have made MUCH difference to recent Oz results--Brad Hodge.Am not being picky just stating that facts dont back up.

  • Nicely_Time.Man on May 29, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    His comments not only about one team but as a cricket fan.AKS286 also said that NZ will do some serious job. yes if cloud, pitch will support Pace bowlers then NZ is having some great bowlers. Now my opinion- i was waiting for match between WI vs PAK to see Narine vs Ajmal. Spinners will really enjoy English pitches. SL will rely on batting strength but still to prove themselselves .Malinga & Herath are only key men with Kulasekara. my pick teams- SA, ENG, IND, AUS, NZ, SL, PAK, WI,

  • Nicely_Time.Man on May 29, 2013, 9:10 GMT

    Oh no not good for AKS286. I think his squad is best just bring Faulkner or Starc in place of Cutting. M.Beer really far better than Doherty, S'OK, Agar, Warne, Hogg, Lyon, Hauritz, O'Brien, Murli, Krezja, Botha, Boyce, Maxwell in BBL. Then how you ignore Beer in the ODI squad. It is in article that English pitches are different in CT'13. As concern about India with recent success, Rank 1 & WC winners definitely deserve to be favorites. When ENGLAND was no.1 in test they won all over the world even SA too. Australia always won everywhere and favorite of whole world when they have NO.1 status. Be flexible mate not good just to oppose a cricket fan. The whole World cricket fan meet here in cricinfo.

  • Meety on May 29, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    @AKS286 on (May 29, 2013, 8:46 GMT) - well done, not a single fact in anything you said.

  • AKS286 on May 29, 2013, 8:46 GMT

    My worst bag don't play but Their best are beaten by POMS, SAFFERS, Indians. Bangladesh is waiting for Oz tour. Beer is the best performer in BBL. Starc is having pathetic test record. Clarke axed seniors and he always give preference to his favorite man- THE whole World knows. Lyon is the worst ever spinner or gentle medium pace (whatever he is)- The whole World knows. When i was supporting A.Voges for test & ODI then Oz fans told me a 30+ man not required and he is not good enough. Oz fans told us that lyon is the best spinner in the history of cricket. Love to see How POMS will thrash Aus in CT'13 & ASHES. but not good to see as a cricket fan downfall of a Immortal Team ie Australia. Australia will win Ashes on paper cricket but will whitewash in Ground. A legend team now called "underdogs in ashes"- what else growth you want.

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    @Meety on (May 29, 2013, 6:19 GMT)Really an amazing feeling to discuss contemporary cricket live with someone from a far away continent!!thnx Cricinfo.Talking business,It is really not clear to anyone why Pathan got his ODI cap back.He bowls at 120Kph of late MINUS any swing.And the prediction about Indian bowlers was based on my experience after watching them series after series.In ODIs atleast 1 of them(usually 1.5 or 2)will have a ' bad day' EVERY match.Sharma may bowl too short/too full/too wide/concede many extras..Eventhough I agree with you that he has been mismanaged at the end of the day he hasn't really lived up to his potential.You may not have watched the IPL in which he diligently nullified Steyn's lethal work many times.Yes Yadav and Bhuvi are VERY promising BUT may lack support from other bowlers.I think Eng and Aus have ALLROUND balance to go all the way under the conditions.if Pathan,sharma and other boys prove me wrong i would be the happiest on 23rd!!Cheers...

  • nthuq on May 29, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    Just an interesting stat I'd like to put out there: If you look up the stats, and order ODI bowlers according to their averages, with the restriction of having taken 36 wickets, an interesting fact comes to fore. This fact is that Mitchell Starc currently possesses the greatest bowling average of all time in ODIs... And surprisingly, Clint McKay possesses an average similar to Glenn McGrath, although he's less economical and more of a strike weapon. In combination with Mitchell Johnson, my preferred 3rd seamer, and, sadly, Xavier Doherty as the spin option, I like our chances, at least bowling wise. Watson's seamers and a few of Clarke's darts and Warner's loopy full tosses would fill the 50 over quota ideally.

    Even batting wise, with Warner, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Bailey, Voges, Wade, I'd say we have one of the most settled line ups in ODIs.

  • Meety on May 29, 2013, 6:19 GMT

    @ latecut_04 on (May 29, 2013, 5:28 GMT) - I actually think that India will have a reasonable pace attack for the CT. I have a lot of time for Yadav (his ODI stats are not great YET, but I can't see why he couldn't be a bit like Ahktar or Lee - great ODI bowlers). Sharma is better in ODIs than Tests (feel he has been misused by the BCCI/management), & Bhuvi looked very good against Oz & England & should enjoy England's conditions - I think he is a right handed Zaheer (quality bowler). The recent return to Pathan is interesting & given India look light on in experienced top order batsmen - maybe Pathan could open the batting AND bowling - which means India could have 4 pacers & Jadeja? - Don't know, but my reply to aks286 is from about 2 years of seeing him spruik our worst players & bag our best. IMO - if the NSP read these pages, they should look at what aks286 says & then do the opposite. He believes Beer is the best spinner in Oz, he would hardly be in our top 10 spinners!

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    @Meetyon (May 28, 2013, 12:53 GMT)--that was a good post although a bit 'on your face' as far as AKS286 is concerned.I had sent a much more matter-of-fact assessment of Ind batting line up but did not see the light.And thanks for answering (albeit unknowingly)my ambiguity regarding Indian bowling line up.I had posted here earlier 'how are we going to send down 50 overs in England given the fact that part time tweakers wont work there'.have to say the line up you have stated is much better than i had feared.especially this Bhuvi could be a revealation under Eng conditions if summer is not yet shining.but the problem is almost all other sides have similar bowlers and Ind just dont have the balance(like in 99).and this is from India..hopefully we will communicate more throughout the summer..:)

  • Ozcricketwriter on May 29, 2013, 4:13 GMT

    At least this is a better lead up to the Ashes than in 2010/11, when Australia hosted an irrelevant ODI series and then an irrelevant T20 series with no first class matches before the Ashes. Even if Australia lose this Ashes series 5-0 at least they have had good preparation. England have had just as good preparation too, what with the test series against New Zealand and all. But at least that won't be an excuse this time around. As for Australia's chances in the Champion's Trophy, they aren't particularly high, but they do have a chance of making it to the semi finals and from there you never know. I think that they should keep their eye on the prize of the Ashes though, and use this as a warm up.

  • Meety on May 29, 2013, 0:16 GMT

    @AKS286 on (May 28, 2013, 12:53 GMT) - sorry to burst your bubble FELLA, but India no longer have the services of Yuvraj or Tendulkar in ODIs anymore. India still have 2 of the best batsmen in ODI cricket ever in Kholi & Dhoni, however the rest are on paper on par with Bangladesh! The likely Ozzy side averages 35 with a S/Rate of 81, compared to India's likely side averages 26 with a S/Rate of 75. So your comment "...Indians are favorite due to Avg & S.Rate and they have not 1 not 2 all top 6 are having this..." is false. NONE of Jadeja, Dhawan, Vijay, Karthik or Sharma have good ODI stats - NONE! Apart from Kholi & Dhoni, only Sharma has good ODI stats. In the bowling - India will have Ishant, Yadav & Bhuvi in most games with Jadeja & Ashwin/Mishra. India may use Pathan, but otherwise their bowling ave is 36 with a S/Rate of 42, versus Oz who ave 26 with a S/Rate of 33. Oz are stat-wise LIGHT YEARS ahead of India & are more suited to playing in Eng - don't even start on fielding!

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:01 GMT

    Australia would be interesting to watch this champions trophy. Their batsmen will be tested by the seamer friendly conditions and i think this is going to be their best chance to see who is their best opener in these conditions.

    I think the best thing for batsmen to do this champions trophy would be to rotate the strike at a decent rate. Also i would advise openers not to play away from their body at the start of his innings. I am sure the subcontinent teams will pitch shorter than required therefore i would back England, New Zealand or Australia to win. West Indies would be a strong team but i don't think they are so daunting to threaten favorites England.

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    This should be the Australian XI for the champs trophy,,,, they can win it: 1.Shane Watson 2.David Warner 3.Philip Hughes 4.Michael Clarke(c) 5.George Bailey 6.Adam Voges 7.Matthew Wade(w) 8.James Faulkner/Doherty 9.Mitchell Johnson 10.Clint McKay 11.Mitchell Starc

  • AKS286 on May 28, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    Cloud, Pitch favours Swanny & Williamson can we change our thought about pitches??

  • AKS286 on May 28, 2013, 16:38 GMT

    @ SirViv1973 on (May 28, 2013, 15:52 GMT) yes Fella Indians are having not good pace bowlers. Their medium bowlers swung well with the new ball but they bowl very poor with old ball. Pak no way man. As you said about swing my best is on Southee, Mills, Boult, Gillespie. Southee bowls beautifully in last overs. they have Bruce Martin who provide more balance. every team is having some weak spot (except WI,Pak- all department are poor). Australia is having best opening pair. Who will open with Amla is the question whether Ingram or Petersen. I really shocked when Alviro is selected for CT. Saffers are having better options than Alviro. Many times Eng pitches don't support pace bowler and in CT'13 the pitches are not will be same as they normally do. The pitches are changed.

  • SirViv1973 on May 28, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    @AK286, Perhaps you are right about Eng not being able to chase big scores but to be honest with you, unless our summer really starts to kick in then I doubt there will be too many big scores made. Conditions will mainly be like they were when Aus came here last year when there was lots of cloud cover & the ball seamed & swung around quite a lot. In these types of conditions it will be seam bowlers who win matches not batsman so IMO India, who lack qulaity seam bowlers will certainly not be among the favs & could really struggle with the conditions. I would expect Eng & Aus to make it through from Group A & I think WI will also make the semis from the other group, I kind of fancy Pak to join them but Gul will be a big loss for them and it depends if their other seamers can step up otherwise it will be the saffers.

  • AKS286 on May 28, 2013, 13:44 GMT

    @ KID JayZuz- Kallis & Philander not in CT. and They have Tsotsobe World's No.5 bowler in ODIs but this will not work for you because ICC ranking is false for you. Strac debut against India and wicketless with 5.77 economy. Cutting, Faulkner or time to remember Bollinger for CT ? ENGLISH pitches surprises many times don't always think that all pitches are good for pacers. I will close watch on NZ team. Surely this time they have something. Bowling, Batting, Fielding all are balanced for KIWIS.

  • AKS286 on May 28, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    @ The-love Fella don't compare test match performance with ODI. Clarke is a world class batsman but in Test not in ODI. Clarke can bat 3 days but can't bat with the Strike Rate of 90. and also good teams whitewash India in tests but very difficult in Odis. WI, Pak thrashed in Tests & ODI but in T20 they are leaders.remember SL tour to Aus. M.Johnson is the best bowler for Australia in all format but Clarke don't like him. when i was watching 3rd ODI Aus Vs SL 74 all out Clarke did't give him the ball and he continue with Starc (Clarke's man). MJ 3-0-11 for 3.

  • AKS286 on May 28, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    @ Meety on (May 27, 2013, 23:45 GMT) Fella Indians are favorite due to Avg & S.Rate and they have not 1 not 2 all top 6 are having this. England is a good side but they can't chase big totals. AUSTRALIA don't have good finishers and their middle order & tail can't finishes the game with a bang. Proteas are second favorite. But this time NZ will do something serious job.well Meety what about the Beer's performance in BBL? and Kid jayzuz Philander also not in CT.

  • Meety on May 28, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    @ latecut_04 on (May 28, 2013, 5:43 GMT) - strong chance that the CT & WC will be in the same cupboard - I'm backing Oz to do it! @Jayzuz on (May 28, 2013, 2:09 GMT) - actually Starc AND McKay have 2 of the best ODI S/Rates of all time. IF - there was no Ashes straight after, we could of included Harris, who is also a member of the rare sub30 S/Rate club. I think Warner has yet to deliver his potential @ ODIs, but as a member of a top 34 with Hughes, Watto & Clarke - it looks good. @Shridharan.S on (May 28, 2013, 10:09 GMT) - unfortunately the only real weakness in the Oz bowling line up is in the spin department & Doherty is the go to man. I agree with your side except Doherty will play (for variety sake) ahead of Faulkner.The only other SLIGHT difference I would have, is swapping Wade & Bailey around. Wade batts #4 for Victoria in List A, he has been shunted around the line up, but I think #5 for Oz would be his spot. I think Maxwell could have impact at the CT!

  • TeamRocker on May 28, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    Note on my previous comment: I meant Starc, not Stark. Too much GOT!

  • TeamRocker on May 28, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    I think the player's performances over the CT should be taken with a grain of salt as far as their relation with the Ashes go. The only real boosts the championship provides are confidence and experience of English conditions (Note: I hope that Watto can find some INTERNATIONAL form in the tournament).

    Australia should go with a side where all the players have specific roles and complement each other well. I would go with this team:

    Warner, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Bailey, Wade, Maxwell, Faulkner, Stark, McKay, Doherty

  • Shridharan.S on May 28, 2013, 10:09 GMT

    This should be the Australian XI for the first game vs England: 1.Shane Watson 2.David Warner 3.Philip Hughes 4.Michael Clarke(c) 5.George Bailey 6.Matthew Wade(w) 7.Glenn Maxwell 8.James Faulkner 9.Mitchell Johnson 10.Clint McKay 11.Mitchell Starc

  • The-love on May 28, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    @Nicely_Time.Man -> Clarke is the only man,who performed under pressure and played some captain's knocks in India....although he didn't get much support from others.... Why do you want to change "only good thing" that Aussie had in last tour....

  • latecut_04 on May 28, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    In many ways this CT can be seen as a prologue to the mother of all ODI championships-WC to be held within 24 months.Venue is outside Asia(agreed conditions aid swing rather than pace like down under BUT definitely slow bowlers and lack of pace off the pitch wont pause any problems),favourites are AUs,SA and Eng(should be because conditions suit Eng and Aus and SA have balanced sides),need genuine bowlers to limit scoring ,forget wicket taking(unlike in Asia where a batsman who can roll his arm can be expected to send down 10 overs and even take wickets),relatively larger grounds which makes running between the wickets and fielding even MORE important(not as large as Aus grounds but a bit bigger than most Asian venues)and many more like features.Just have a feeling the last CT and WC1015 will adorn the same cupboard.Any takers????

  • Jayzuz on May 28, 2013, 2:09 GMT

    @AKS286, I suggest you go and look up some of the stats for the SA bowlers in ODIs. Outside of Steyn and Morkel they don't have anyone outstanding. As you would expect, Philander doesn't rate, as he can only bowl on green tracks, as his 50 average in Australia clearly showed (averages 35 in flatter ODI strips). But even Steyn and Morkel averages are 5-10 runs a wicket higher than Starc's in most short formats, and that is a HUGE difference and why I said Starc is probably the best short format bowler in the world today. Warner and Watson are the best opening pair in ODIs. Clarke is the best middle order batter. Still you think they are in the same league as Bangladesh? As for IND, anybody who denies they are awful outside the sub-continent is living in dreamland. Its their own fault, after years of laying down outrageous dustbowls for visiting teams in IND. How can IND batsmen learn to play bowlers like Starc on normal strips, when slow, dull bouncers can be flicked off the hip in IND?

  • JF19 on May 28, 2013, 0:45 GMT

    The quicker Clarke wakes up to the fact that he is not bigger than the game of cricket the better Australian cricket will be. He is a bit like Imran Khan use to be in that he thinks he is better than everyone else.....and everyone around him had to tread on egg shells. I would hate to have to play under him...

  • Meety on May 27, 2013, 23:45 GMT

    @L Flynn - pretty sure S Marsh isn't in the squad. Oz's top 4 of Warner, Watson, Hughes & Clarke are, (at least stat-wise) the equivelent of any other top order. @AKS286 on (May 27, 2013, 7:09 GMT) - India in England are long shots in this tournament, they will do well to make the semis. No comment on their ranking, but post W/Cup they have been quite poor yet their ranking hasn't dropped - I finf that interesting!

  • AKS286 on May 27, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    @Jayzuz on (May 27, 2013, 9:41 GMT) ICC ranking is false, SA don't have bowling depth. now NO comment for a kid. and also SAME league means contenders but not good enough. Fella kallis is not in CT'13.

  • Nicely_Time.Man on May 27, 2013, 15:36 GMT

    @The-love on (May 27, 2013, 8:34 GMT) HaHa mate i laugh ok. but Watson, Bailey,Warner, Smith, Haddin are better options than me even Finch impresses in IPL. @AKS286 i will go with your squad but i will replace Cutting with Faulkner or Starc. BEER is the most effective bowler in BBL and he bowls in Powerplay. @ Jayzuz on (May 27, 2013, 9:41 GMT) I think you have a foolish comment that India's ODI ranking is falsh and others ranking is good? challenging ICC ranking by a kid called Jayzuz.

  • on May 27, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    Much like the Test matches I am far more excited about the bowling lineup than the batting. An attack starting with Johnson, Starc, McKay, and Doherty looks extremely strong. The batting has more question marks. Some batsmen like Finch and Maxwell have been found out for now. Players like S. Marsh and Watson are tearing it up in the IPL and should definitely be in. Add in the stalwarts like Hughes, Clarke, Warner and Wade and you have the best part of a side that is looking very competitive.

  • Dazako on May 27, 2013, 11:31 GMT

    I agree with most ppl here that champ trophy will be good to prepare for conditions but will be more interested in Aus A tour. I hope cricinfo has live comentary on that cos it will be followed by most true test fans.

  • ozziespirit on May 27, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    We need to get off to a good start in the CT, but there is no link between that and the Ashes, which is a completely different level of the game, and which, as everyone keeps saying, we start as underdogs. I'll take the silverware though :)

  • Jayzuz on May 27, 2013, 9:41 GMT

    Australia have a decent shot at winning. Starc has got to be close to the best short format bowler in the game. They have a good ODI squad there. Remember, they have only lost one ODI series in the last 2 1/2 years, which makes AKS286's standard comments all the more foolish (AUS and WI are equal, he says, even though AUS beat the WI 5-0 just a couple of months ago). It's hard to pick, as there are no standout teams. All have their weaknesses. Conditions won't suit India, especially if there is a bit of rain around, and their ODI ranking is false - just played so many home games of late. SA has a decent team, but players like Amla and Kallis are more steady than brilliant, and there is a lack of depth in the bowling, as we saw on the Australian tour. England will have a good team, but again, it depends who plays. Could go to anyone, really.

  • The-love on May 27, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    @Nicely_Time.Man -> Then i think they should appoint you as Aussie captain....

  • Nicely_Time.Man on May 27, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    Australia will lose CT as well as Ashes- no doubt. Clarke is not good for Australia.

  • Mayan820 on May 27, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    May this be the tournament where the Proteas first get to pay New Zealand back for all the times they have slipped on this slippery banana skin and then the cherry on the top . . . to absolutely annihilate their old foe Australia. I would like them to give the Ausies such a blood nose that the latter will have a permanent scar from it. If they can do both of the above, then they can even lose from there.

  • JF19 on May 27, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    I think Clarkey is in for a rude shock in England..... As an out and out Aussie fan, we are not going to taste success as we did in the past for quite some time... It will be awhile yet!!

  • AKS286 on May 27, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    Watson, Finch/Hughes, Warner, Paine, Smith, Clarke, Moises, Johnson, Mckay, Cutting, Beer. Really miss Jaques, Symonds.

  • AKS286 on May 27, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    India is the most powerful contender for CT'13. Two reasons for this 1st There batting average & 2nd the most important is Strike rate. There all top 6 batsmen are having best SR in the world and finishers too, They have some good gentle medium pace swing bowlers who always strike with new ball. Saffers is the next contender with talented youngsters. Hope NZ will impact in this CT'13 , Kiwis are now having good combined team and under Brendon's Captaincy they work as unit. NZ are having balanced team with good pace bowlers specially Southee and now Bruce proved himself as a strike spinner. Eng team is balanced but can't chase big totals.SL is the black horse. AUS, WI, Bang, Pak are in same league.

  • Meety on May 27, 2013, 6:44 GMT

    @ landl47 on (May 27, 2013, 5:07 GMT) - England can't be discounted. Of the top 5 sides in ODIs, IMO they have the best spinner in Swann. SA don't have anything, Doherty is passable, SLs spinners are better in Tests (same for India). The best ODI spinners are amongst the lower ranked nations. The key will be how well their pacers go, in ODIs, I think there is a bit of sameness about the attack. You would think the Eng top order (even minus KP), should get competitive totals, with runs not being easy to score off Swann, how well does the 3 seamers & part timers go will be the key. IF, there wasn't an Ashes following this comp, I would of selected Harris, as Oz would then have the best Strike bowlers - which you would think in England, be a massive advantage. Can't go past Sth Africas batting line up, + Steyn (even if he is nowhere near as great in ODIs).

  • Mitty2 on May 27, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    @hmmmmm.... All of us Australians don't even want to see those names in the ODI squads mate! You should have seen the aus - SL one day threads, the amount of foreboding there was on selection of bits and pieces allrounders being terrible (see India) was amazing!

    @landl47, I've seen you say it before. Agree entirely with you.

    @meety, you got there before me, provided that it's posted, I said id be following the A tour more than the champions trophy! But of course it's still more than just a bonus if we do well in it... Team confidence is team confidence.

  • Mitty2 on May 27, 2013, 6:20 GMT

    Well to be honest, although i'd like it to be so for the more significant format, our batting is one of the strongest line ups in one day cricket and considering how good the ODI pace attack is with McKay having an amazing strike rate and starc being one of the best limited over quicks in world cricket (pity he is a shadow of that in tests), on paper, we should have a very very good chance for the trophy. Don't know how much confidence it will instil into the low-on-confidence batters such as Watson, Hughes and Warner, or how much belief it will instil into the team, but it surely can't hinder with preparation. All the more better that we have test players playing in the A tour and two four day warm up games beforehand.

    If in the likely event that we lose the ashes (I'm still more confident than most), atleast we can't blame preparation.

    But of course, speaking volumes about the prioritizing of the ashes, I'll be much more interested in the A tour than the champions trophy.

  • Booniedoon on May 27, 2013, 5:29 GMT

    I didn't even know there was a one day series to be played over there. Fair enough. Let me know when it's done. I hope they don't pick the test team based on their one day success mind you, not quite the same game...

  • hmmmmm... on May 27, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    Success or not, I just hope they (the selectors) don't make the same mistake and select players on the basis or IPL or ODI 'form' ...I don't want to hear the names Maxwell, Smith, White, Hastings, Henriques or Doherty anywhere near the Test team again. We also need six actual batsmen (Wade and Haddin are not batters), 4 bowlers, all rounders should already be in the team on the basis of their inclusion as either of the former - not simply qualify as bits and pieces or on their "potential", and a proper keeper. Probably wishful thinking...

  • landl47 on May 27, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    I like Australia's chances in the Champions Trophy. They have a well-balanced side and the weaknesses of their line-up in test cricket aren't such a problem in the shorter formats. Their main competition should be South Africa, India and West Indies.

    England might do alright, but a lot will depend on Root, Morgan and Buttler in the middle order.

  • on May 27, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    Complex tour as it context but Pup can do anything....

  • Meety on May 27, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    On paper, we'd just about be be favourites for the Champ Trophy, maybe just behind Sth Africa & half a step in front of England & SL. == == == The Champ Trophy (IMO) won't have much physical effect on the Ashes (apart from injuries!), but there could be some confidence boosters for the Ashes members. Like most Ashes fans (regardless of Oz or Eng), I think a lot of us will be following the A-tour as closely as the Champ Trophy!!!!

  • shuvo_bba on May 27, 2013, 2:06 GMT

    Provided that Clarkey makes his back well into the both section of tournaments and the pace battery batters the English batters well upto the requirement, Australia are tipped to be marked as the favourites.

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  • shuvo_bba on May 27, 2013, 2:06 GMT

    Provided that Clarkey makes his back well into the both section of tournaments and the pace battery batters the English batters well upto the requirement, Australia are tipped to be marked as the favourites.

  • Meety on May 27, 2013, 3:30 GMT

    On paper, we'd just about be be favourites for the Champ Trophy, maybe just behind Sth Africa & half a step in front of England & SL. == == == The Champ Trophy (IMO) won't have much physical effect on the Ashes (apart from injuries!), but there could be some confidence boosters for the Ashes members. Like most Ashes fans (regardless of Oz or Eng), I think a lot of us will be following the A-tour as closely as the Champ Trophy!!!!

  • on May 27, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    Complex tour as it context but Pup can do anything....

  • landl47 on May 27, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    I like Australia's chances in the Champions Trophy. They have a well-balanced side and the weaknesses of their line-up in test cricket aren't such a problem in the shorter formats. Their main competition should be South Africa, India and West Indies.

    England might do alright, but a lot will depend on Root, Morgan and Buttler in the middle order.

  • hmmmmm... on May 27, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    Success or not, I just hope they (the selectors) don't make the same mistake and select players on the basis or IPL or ODI 'form' ...I don't want to hear the names Maxwell, Smith, White, Hastings, Henriques or Doherty anywhere near the Test team again. We also need six actual batsmen (Wade and Haddin are not batters), 4 bowlers, all rounders should already be in the team on the basis of their inclusion as either of the former - not simply qualify as bits and pieces or on their "potential", and a proper keeper. Probably wishful thinking...

  • Booniedoon on May 27, 2013, 5:29 GMT

    I didn't even know there was a one day series to be played over there. Fair enough. Let me know when it's done. I hope they don't pick the test team based on their one day success mind you, not quite the same game...

  • Mitty2 on May 27, 2013, 6:20 GMT

    Well to be honest, although i'd like it to be so for the more significant format, our batting is one of the strongest line ups in one day cricket and considering how good the ODI pace attack is with McKay having an amazing strike rate and starc being one of the best limited over quicks in world cricket (pity he is a shadow of that in tests), on paper, we should have a very very good chance for the trophy. Don't know how much confidence it will instil into the low-on-confidence batters such as Watson, Hughes and Warner, or how much belief it will instil into the team, but it surely can't hinder with preparation. All the more better that we have test players playing in the A tour and two four day warm up games beforehand.

    If in the likely event that we lose the ashes (I'm still more confident than most), atleast we can't blame preparation.

    But of course, speaking volumes about the prioritizing of the ashes, I'll be much more interested in the A tour than the champions trophy.

  • Mitty2 on May 27, 2013, 6:31 GMT

    @hmmmmm.... All of us Australians don't even want to see those names in the ODI squads mate! You should have seen the aus - SL one day threads, the amount of foreboding there was on selection of bits and pieces allrounders being terrible (see India) was amazing!

    @landl47, I've seen you say it before. Agree entirely with you.

    @meety, you got there before me, provided that it's posted, I said id be following the A tour more than the champions trophy! But of course it's still more than just a bonus if we do well in it... Team confidence is team confidence.

  • Meety on May 27, 2013, 6:44 GMT

    @ landl47 on (May 27, 2013, 5:07 GMT) - England can't be discounted. Of the top 5 sides in ODIs, IMO they have the best spinner in Swann. SA don't have anything, Doherty is passable, SLs spinners are better in Tests (same for India). The best ODI spinners are amongst the lower ranked nations. The key will be how well their pacers go, in ODIs, I think there is a bit of sameness about the attack. You would think the Eng top order (even minus KP), should get competitive totals, with runs not being easy to score off Swann, how well does the 3 seamers & part timers go will be the key. IF, there wasn't an Ashes following this comp, I would of selected Harris, as Oz would then have the best Strike bowlers - which you would think in England, be a massive advantage. Can't go past Sth Africas batting line up, + Steyn (even if he is nowhere near as great in ODIs).

  • AKS286 on May 27, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    India is the most powerful contender for CT'13. Two reasons for this 1st There batting average & 2nd the most important is Strike rate. There all top 6 batsmen are having best SR in the world and finishers too, They have some good gentle medium pace swing bowlers who always strike with new ball. Saffers is the next contender with talented youngsters. Hope NZ will impact in this CT'13 , Kiwis are now having good combined team and under Brendon's Captaincy they work as unit. NZ are having balanced team with good pace bowlers specially Southee and now Bruce proved himself as a strike spinner. Eng team is balanced but can't chase big totals.SL is the black horse. AUS, WI, Bang, Pak are in same league.