Champions Trophy 2013 May 28, 2013

New ODI rules a challenge - Dhoni

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India captain MS Dhoni has said one of the challenges facing the side in England during the Champions Trophy will be adjusting to the new ODI rules. He said the team had enough time to acclimatise, with two warm-up games scheduled before the opening match against South Africa on June 6.

Since the new rules were implemented in January, India have played ODIs at home but this will be their first experience of them in foreign conditions, where the seamers will have a bigger role. Captains have said the rules haven't been fair on the bowlers, especially the spinners, with not more than four fielders allowed outside the 30-yard circle at any stage of the innings. Bowlers can bowl two bouncers an over and the Powerplays will have to be completed by the 40th over.

"There are a few challenges like the new ODI rules and we will be playing outside the subcontinent for the first time under the new rules," Dhoni said in Mumbai ahead of the team's departure for England. "We will have to adjust to the new rule of five fielders being inside (the circle), the length they need to bowl, how quickly they adapt to the wicket, which areas to bowl.

"The good thing is we have two practice matches leading up to the tournament. We also have enough time before the first game, so there is enough time to adjust."

In the past, India have fared poorly in tournaments staged immediately after the IPL. The team failed to make the semi-finals in the 2009 and 2010 World T20 tournaments, but Dhoni said the players' form during the IPL was encouraging.

"With the kind of fitness level that is going around right now, each and every member is looking fit," Dhoni said. "All of them have played good cricket in the IPL or before the IPL. So most of them are in very good touch. As far as the fitness is concerned we have not received any official reports about any player being unfit, so that is a good sign."

Though the seamers are expected to play a major role, the squad has three spinners in R Ashwin, Amit Mishra and Ravindra Jadeja. India's coach Duncan Fletcher felt the spinners will have an important role to play at certain venues.

"As MS mentioned earlier it is generally going to be seamer-friendly, you never know, like Cardiff for example, it is known there to be a turning wicket, very slow and not very different to what you might get in India," Fletcher said. "You've got to be prepared to play two spinners. If one is injured, there is a back-up. We have a balanced side."

India will be without their regular opening pair of Virender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir, both dropped on form. Dhoni was confident that the new pair of Shikhar Dhawan and M Vijay would carry forward their form from the Test series against Australia.

"Our two openers had done well at the Test level recently," Dhoni said. "I know it is a different challenge in the ODIs, you have to accelerate but at the same time it is important that we have a good start from which we can capitalise on, and as Duncan rightly said this is an opportunity for the youngsters. Shikhar and Vijay have been very consistent."

Dhoni was reminded of India's last ODI series in England, in 2011, where the side lost the five-match series 3-0 after losing all four Tests. Dhoni said the team had fared better than the results suggested.

"Rain was a big factor, we lost all the tosses. It didn't even reach the stage where it could have decided by Duckworth/Lewis," Dhoni said. "The spinners had to literally deal with the wet ball and it was not possible for them to use their skills. The performance of the ODI squad was good, if you don't see just the results."

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  • on May 29, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    Vijay has been given a chance on the basis of his good performance in the Australia Test Series which is no major yardstick on how a player will perform in overseas conditions, especially England. Gambhir or Rahane should have been there because they are more experoenced in English Conditions. I can only think of one reason that Gambhir and Rahane were not chosen because the selectors want to send them for SA A tour otherwise there is no reason why these guys should not be chosen along with Pujara. Yuvraj has had fitness and form issues. Zak's experience would have been handy. Praveen Kumar should not be forgotten as well. He and B.Kumar would have wreaked havoc together in English conditions which are swing friendly. My team from the 15 chosen: Dhawan, Karthik/Vijay, Kohli, Rohit, Dhoni, Raina, Jadeja, Ashwin Pathan, Bhuvi, Umesh/Ishant based on the performance in practice matches. Best of luck to the selected XI and hope they bring the cup home.

  • on May 29, 2013, 7:04 GMT

    forget about sehwag.ghambhir,zahir and yuvi.this is a young side led by a true and fearless captain.we have not yet won this trophy though we went to final for two times in the past.dhoni has presented us t20 and icc worldcup.india has also achieved rank 1 in the test under the leadership of ms.lets hope for the best for this year champions trophy also.

  • on May 28, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    All I can say to M S Dhoni right now is all the best. Team looks promising but a full squad without bowling experience is always risk in England. Zaheer Khan should have been in the squad but it looks like he is not looking fit again for that reason he might have been dropped. Well Sehwag and Gambhir were awful with bat but anyone should have been picked and seen if they have failed in this tournament they should be dropped in the next series. Shikar Dhawan and Vijay's performance in tests is different and in India. With that performance one cannot judge them. This is ICC Champions Trophy and not an ordinary series to do experiments. Anyhow Dhoni is always had luck with young team. Hope they do some wonders this time. Let us see.

  • vrn59 on May 28, 2013, 21:40 GMT

    Although a successful IPL season cannot be the only yardstick by which a player is judged, I feel that Harbhajan Singh is close to a comeback. He is taking wickets regularly again, which we haven't seen him do in the last 2-3 years or so. He has now stated that he is planning a stint in county cricket, which will be helpful. I feel that Harbhajan would be a positive presence in the team, considering his vast experience and his competitive attitude. I would back him to return to the Indian team in at least one format of the game by the first quarter of 2014. Ashwin has been performing well, but not spectacularly; Ojha is a good bowler, but the selectors need to have more faith in him; Chawla is awful; Mishra is in good form now, but is not a viable long-term option in my opinion.

  • Harmony111 on June 1, 2013, 22:39 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik: What exactly are you talking about? Your line of thinking seems to change every now and then. First it was about India and SL's last 10-12 years performance in England and then you started saying that what happened in the times of the older ex-players may not necessarily happen when the new players come in and now you are saying that you were not talking about new players but about NEWER players, the ones who are yet to play for SL, who you hope will help SL turn the dice vs India !!!!

    Wow wow wow what a fabulous set of temporal arguments where you jump from the far-past to the near-past to the present to the future at your whim.

    The current lot of your NEWER players hasn't exactly done what you hoped for. May be you should wait for these NEWER players to retire in the next 5-6 years and then hope that those new players will do what you wish for.

  • Tal_Botvinnik on June 1, 2013, 16:54 GMT

    I am talking about SL new players, with Kapugedara,Kandamby,Samaraweera,..etc out.

  • Harmony111 on June 1, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    Hey Meety, nice to see you man after a long time. How are you? Hope you have recovered from what I handed to you in the article ---"Board games show cricket's true powerplay"---. Anyone can go there and see how you were ran away from that place.

    You were saying a few things before the Aus series, now that they were whipped 0-4 by India you have resorted to taking indirect potshots cos you know well you don't stand a chance in direct debates. All of it can be seen......ciao.

  • Harmony111 on June 1, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik: I talk of Natwest Trophy or CB Series etc cos you and your fellow brothers have been talking about what happened 8-10 yrs back. I did say that 2010 is more sig than 2002 but you did not read that due to your bias.

    SL trashed India in 1990s and 2000s? Are you even aware of history? Except for a 3-3.5 year window from 1996 to 2000, SL have ALWAYS been India's fav pray. It seems that SL fans count SL's dominance from one off win over India in 2003 to another one off win over India in 2009.

    Good that you finally talked of the new players in both the teams. India, with the new players thrashed SL in SL 1-4, defeated SL 1-2 in CB Series in 2012, & defeated SL in the Asia Cup. When Gang etc had retired then too India defeated SL in the CB Series 2008, defeated SL in the WC Final & defeated SL in SL in the 2010 Asia Cup.

    In short, in the last 5 years, India has owned SL and have beaten them god know how many times, WITH THE NEW PLAYERS.

    Ditto for Future too.

  • Tal_Botvinnik on June 1, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    @ Harmony111 You said Historical evidence is a weak indicator of team's performance in a tournament than the recent record. Then why all the Natwest finals, 2008 CB series and etc.

    Also its not that India will have a upper hand on SL alone, in the future we can see the opposite happening with SL winning vs Ind. Remember there is will be no Sehwag,Gambhir,Zaheer,Harbajan,Sachin when you play against us again, Just like in the 2000's and 1990' where your team were constantly trashed by Jaya,Vass,Murli,De SIlva and co.

    So all the Indian fans should think before they say India will win comfortably.

  • tony_joe on May 31, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @GRVJPR I hope you watched the last test series with England ..where India was handed a clean 4-0... It does not matter if Kumble or Agarkar got a hundred sometime but most of the wickets went to Anderson, Broad , Bresnan and even Finn too...Tremlett got injured midway. If you say ball does not swing in England...you either don't follow cricket or you feign of ignorance.

  • on May 29, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    Vijay has been given a chance on the basis of his good performance in the Australia Test Series which is no major yardstick on how a player will perform in overseas conditions, especially England. Gambhir or Rahane should have been there because they are more experoenced in English Conditions. I can only think of one reason that Gambhir and Rahane were not chosen because the selectors want to send them for SA A tour otherwise there is no reason why these guys should not be chosen along with Pujara. Yuvraj has had fitness and form issues. Zak's experience would have been handy. Praveen Kumar should not be forgotten as well. He and B.Kumar would have wreaked havoc together in English conditions which are swing friendly. My team from the 15 chosen: Dhawan, Karthik/Vijay, Kohli, Rohit, Dhoni, Raina, Jadeja, Ashwin Pathan, Bhuvi, Umesh/Ishant based on the performance in practice matches. Best of luck to the selected XI and hope they bring the cup home.

  • on May 29, 2013, 7:04 GMT

    forget about sehwag.ghambhir,zahir and yuvi.this is a young side led by a true and fearless captain.we have not yet won this trophy though we went to final for two times in the past.dhoni has presented us t20 and icc worldcup.india has also achieved rank 1 in the test under the leadership of ms.lets hope for the best for this year champions trophy also.

  • on May 28, 2013, 21:41 GMT

    All I can say to M S Dhoni right now is all the best. Team looks promising but a full squad without bowling experience is always risk in England. Zaheer Khan should have been in the squad but it looks like he is not looking fit again for that reason he might have been dropped. Well Sehwag and Gambhir were awful with bat but anyone should have been picked and seen if they have failed in this tournament they should be dropped in the next series. Shikar Dhawan and Vijay's performance in tests is different and in India. With that performance one cannot judge them. This is ICC Champions Trophy and not an ordinary series to do experiments. Anyhow Dhoni is always had luck with young team. Hope they do some wonders this time. Let us see.

  • vrn59 on May 28, 2013, 21:40 GMT

    Although a successful IPL season cannot be the only yardstick by which a player is judged, I feel that Harbhajan Singh is close to a comeback. He is taking wickets regularly again, which we haven't seen him do in the last 2-3 years or so. He has now stated that he is planning a stint in county cricket, which will be helpful. I feel that Harbhajan would be a positive presence in the team, considering his vast experience and his competitive attitude. I would back him to return to the Indian team in at least one format of the game by the first quarter of 2014. Ashwin has been performing well, but not spectacularly; Ojha is a good bowler, but the selectors need to have more faith in him; Chawla is awful; Mishra is in good form now, but is not a viable long-term option in my opinion.

  • Harmony111 on June 1, 2013, 22:39 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik: What exactly are you talking about? Your line of thinking seems to change every now and then. First it was about India and SL's last 10-12 years performance in England and then you started saying that what happened in the times of the older ex-players may not necessarily happen when the new players come in and now you are saying that you were not talking about new players but about NEWER players, the ones who are yet to play for SL, who you hope will help SL turn the dice vs India !!!!

    Wow wow wow what a fabulous set of temporal arguments where you jump from the far-past to the near-past to the present to the future at your whim.

    The current lot of your NEWER players hasn't exactly done what you hoped for. May be you should wait for these NEWER players to retire in the next 5-6 years and then hope that those new players will do what you wish for.

  • Tal_Botvinnik on June 1, 2013, 16:54 GMT

    I am talking about SL new players, with Kapugedara,Kandamby,Samaraweera,..etc out.

  • Harmony111 on June 1, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    Hey Meety, nice to see you man after a long time. How are you? Hope you have recovered from what I handed to you in the article ---"Board games show cricket's true powerplay"---. Anyone can go there and see how you were ran away from that place.

    You were saying a few things before the Aus series, now that they were whipped 0-4 by India you have resorted to taking indirect potshots cos you know well you don't stand a chance in direct debates. All of it can be seen......ciao.

  • Harmony111 on June 1, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik: I talk of Natwest Trophy or CB Series etc cos you and your fellow brothers have been talking about what happened 8-10 yrs back. I did say that 2010 is more sig than 2002 but you did not read that due to your bias.

    SL trashed India in 1990s and 2000s? Are you even aware of history? Except for a 3-3.5 year window from 1996 to 2000, SL have ALWAYS been India's fav pray. It seems that SL fans count SL's dominance from one off win over India in 2003 to another one off win over India in 2009.

    Good that you finally talked of the new players in both the teams. India, with the new players thrashed SL in SL 1-4, defeated SL 1-2 in CB Series in 2012, & defeated SL in the Asia Cup. When Gang etc had retired then too India defeated SL in the CB Series 2008, defeated SL in the WC Final & defeated SL in SL in the 2010 Asia Cup.

    In short, in the last 5 years, India has owned SL and have beaten them god know how many times, WITH THE NEW PLAYERS.

    Ditto for Future too.

  • Tal_Botvinnik on June 1, 2013, 2:55 GMT

    @ Harmony111 You said Historical evidence is a weak indicator of team's performance in a tournament than the recent record. Then why all the Natwest finals, 2008 CB series and etc.

    Also its not that India will have a upper hand on SL alone, in the future we can see the opposite happening with SL winning vs Ind. Remember there is will be no Sehwag,Gambhir,Zaheer,Harbajan,Sachin when you play against us again, Just like in the 2000's and 1990' where your team were constantly trashed by Jaya,Vass,Murli,De SIlva and co.

    So all the Indian fans should think before they say India will win comfortably.

  • tony_joe on May 31, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @GRVJPR I hope you watched the last test series with England ..where India was handed a clean 4-0... It does not matter if Kumble or Agarkar got a hundred sometime but most of the wickets went to Anderson, Broad , Bresnan and even Finn too...Tremlett got injured midway. If you say ball does not swing in England...you either don't follow cricket or you feign of ignorance.

  • Meety on May 31, 2013, 0:08 GMT

    I think Dhoni will have his work cut out for him. The bating looks surprisingly shallow for an Indian team. I actually think a pace trio of Sharma, Yadav & Bhuvi will be India's strength. == == == Seems like disHarmony is off his rocker again!

  • Harmony111 on May 30, 2013, 19:02 GMT

    Hey guys did you notice one thing? In all the comments made by baseball-sucks, Isuru and others, what are they trying to prove? What is their aim? Their aim is to somehow show that SL are better than India. This is not happening for the first time. This happened in the CB Series time too when SL fans said they had the better of India in Aus even though SL had lost 1-2 to India there. This happened after the WC too when they said that India won the WC only at home even though SL themselves failed to win WC Final in India and themselves failed in WT20 even at home.

    Talking about tests and others things, these fans routinely say that Indian batsmen are FTBs & Indian wickets are flat tracks when in fact the world knows that SL make even flatter wickets (& they still lose at home).

    Clearly, some SL fans have a complex vs India. They see India as the benchmark and aspire to be like us. They have so far said nothing except that SL have done BETTER THAN INDIA in Eng.

    That's all they want.

  • Harmony111 on May 30, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: Oh so SL players do not take IPL seriously? Is this why Malinga chose to retire from Tests to play in IPL :-D

    As for others, may be they take the WC or WT20 or CT seriously. Tell me how many times have these SL players taken these various tournaments seriously enough to win it? ZERO. 1996 doesn't count here cos they were diff players just in case you were about to say that.

    I solidly refuted you at 12:19 and you are now making excuses that your reply was not published. You *RAN AWAY* from here at that time as you had done on a prev article.

  • Harmony111 on May 30, 2013, 18:41 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: On one hand you say that averages do matter a lot and point out the averages of several Ind and SL players and then when Andrews said that Taylor had a higher avg than MJ and so must be a better batsman then you started saying you are not even going there. Mind you Andrews too was talking on facts just like you were and when your own line of thinking was used to push you back you couldn't even come up with a proper reply, just like you often do when you run away mid way from debates with me. You ran away from the article ---Aggressive Mumbai end title drought--- after I soundly refuted you there and even here you had no reply to my 12:19 comment and I had to poke you about it.

    I am still waiting for your reply reg that 12:19 comment, where is it?

  • Harmony111 on May 30, 2013, 18:11 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: While I wait for my other comments to get published, here are a few problems with your logic. You seem to think that cos CT is being played in England no other match played elsewhere matters. This is just your whim. Wiser people would say that historical record is a weaker indicator of a team's performance in a tournament than the recent record. 10 yrs back there was no Angelo, no Perera and no Chandimal. More imp, 10 years back SL had Murali and SJ and also Atapattu. It was because of these guys that SL managed to win matches - ODIs as well as Tests. Trying to extrapolate their contributions to present players is foolish.

    In 2002 SL couldn't even reach the Natwest Finals while India won it. In 1999, SL crashed out in the 1st round of WC in Eng itself while India reached Super 6 even after the loss of Sachin initially. Btw, rem Taunton?

    Recently, SL lost at home to Ind 1-4, lost in Asia Cup 0-3 and cudn't even chase 138 at home. Isn't 2012 more sig than '04 or '06?

  • Harmony111 on May 30, 2013, 18:05 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: You just get it do you? If your team can't chase an avg score of 138 in 20 over playing at home then how can you expect that your team will win CT that is being played in England? It's not as if SL have won much in England. If a student can't understand basic arithmetic how can he claim he will do well at calculus? SL should first learn how to win at home and within Asia. At the moment, SL are the weakest team in Asia, even Afghanistan might win if they play SL such is SL's plight. Talking about India, we won the Natwest Trophy in 2002, a tournament where SL couldn't even reach the Finals.

    @Baseball-sucks: Your whole theory is misplaced from the start since you are trying to talk about performances in bilateral matches whereas CT is a multi-team tournament. India have reached the finals of CT twice winning them once wheres SL have made to the finals just once THAT TOO AT HOME. SL have been the whipping boy otherwise for eg Asia Cup where you lost 0-3 OUCH.

  • on May 30, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    My 11 would be Karthik, Dhawan, Kohli, Sharma, Dhoni ,Jadeja, Bhuvi,Irfan, Umesh, Mishra,Vinay this team has good balance fast bowling somewhat will always b an issue and for pitches in Cardiff bring in Ashwin in Irfan's place

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 15:19 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana :Are you telling me that the batting averages of sachin and mahela in overseas conditions are similar? lol, no way, back it up if you can

  • Tal_Botvinnik on May 30, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    @28041991 Yeah looking at the present i can say you people have a miserable overseas and england record. SL has a better England record.

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 13:01 GMT

    @Narbavi-No no you misunderstand me.You and Indians say Mahela and Sanga are a flat track bullies.But presentagely Mahela's and Sachin's presentages are very simillar.So you can't say Mahela is a flat track bully.If Mahela is a flat track bully Sachin also a flat track bully.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik: are you even comparing matthews with dhoni? i mentioned about those 5 odi's but you are talking about the overall careers, Dhoni is someone who can bat well anywhere, go and check his stats as a no.3 or a no.4 batsman, he averages above 50 there too, he has made 8 hundreds compared to 0 by matthews, and matthews averages just 33 compared to dhoni's 51

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 12:54 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: like you answered about the questions that i posed to you regarding srilanka's records compared with india's records? and yes in the recent past your odi team has done well there,

  • realfan on May 30, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik : first it was comparisons of young brigade, later it was about sachin and other, now its murali and other, ofcourse we dint have murali, but we were not dependent on single man, INDIA ias a team , not some single persn carrying along ..... even without the likes of murali and vass we won more matches than you..... and remember you have not produced another murali or vas yet, and who knows after sanga is gone , you wont have another sang..... but we have KOHLI, ASHWIN, RAINA, PUJARA, DHONI to replace the legends of our country..... past is past mate , get to the present , and if you do that you can see that srilankan cricket has no future....

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 12:48 GMT

    @Tal_Botvinnik: we have looked hapless in our overseas tours? apart from the previous tour, look at our 2007 and 2008 tours, we won the series in england in 2007, we won the perth test in 2008, we drew in australia 1-1 in 2004, we drew in england 1-1 in 2002, whereas lanka has never won a series in england and never won a test in australian, you think making finals of cb series is a huge achievement, we won the same cb series in 2008 when you were also part of it, guess now we know who has been having hapless overseas tours

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 30, 2013, 12:38 GMT

    @ Narbavi ; Alright, Mathews is a middle order batsman n Kohli is a top order batsman. Well, Then how about top order batsman Chandimal's average 54.66. He has also scored a unbeaten 100, a match winning knock compare to Kohli's beaten , match losing knock ,and a 50 too. lol So.... do you have anything to add ???? lol

    Just go thru the averages of all the batsmen man, you will see that while SL batsmen are averaging around 50, Indians average around 38-39 . LOL

    And Why don't you answer my question about the recent team performances in England ??? SL 8 outta 12 n India 3 outta 12.. lol Good luck !!!!

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 12:35 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : It's evident that you only read what you want to read. When I mentioned about Kulasekara's astounding ODI bowling average of 197, you gave no reply about that one. It's your own stats and facts that go against you so please come up with some logical comments.

  • itismenithin on May 30, 2013, 12:33 GMT

    India missed a trick in not having another fast bowling all rounder in the squad(not many options though). In England lower middle order plays a big role in batting and it becomes very important to bat deep. India in 83 wc and Pakistan in 99 had good bunch of all rounders who played a huge role in team's success.

  • Tal_Botvinnik on May 30, 2013, 12:30 GMT

    @Narbavi (May 30, 2013, 11:44 GMT) : LOL thats why MS DHoni has a AVg of 50.

  • Tal_Botvinnik on May 30, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    @28041991: Murali has taken 800 test and 500 ODI wickets at an astonishing average. Your indian players could only dream that. Besides your bowlers only take wickets in home dust bowl and outside SC they looks so miserable. CRIC please publish.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 30, 2013, 12:26 GMT

    @andrew27994 ; lol , Yeah, the average doesn't fluctuate much when the variables increase with a constant (or nearly constant) coefficient of proportionality.But how can you predict the outcomes of over 250 matches Taylor yet play (or he will never play ) ? Theoretically Its possible. But This is a sport where real people play under real environmental conditions and there are many influencing factors involve in it too like physical conditions. So Do you now understand how silly of you to even bring something like that up - Mahela vs Taylor ???? LOL

    Don't try so hard buddy ?? I asked you very simple questions. But you conveniently ignore to answer. At least tell which team has done well in the recent past in English conditions ? You can earn my respect by answering correctly . lol G'day !!!

  • Tal_Botvinnik on May 30, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    @Indian fans: If your board can arrange once in a 3 year test series with Australia,SA,Eng in AUS,SA and ENG, we can definitely win and show you. You see we get chances only once in 10 years because all the other periods are crammed with series vs you. Besides think of all the waste of money when india tours these countries so frequently and yet look so hapless.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana :First you compared sachin with mahela and sanath, after losing that argument you are comparing him with don bradman all off a sudden, we are talking about players from the same generation, did bradman play in the generation of sanath, sachin and mahela? how are you even comparing cricket in the 1930's and 40's with that of what it is now? i never said sachin is the best ever, i said sachin is among the top 3 batsmen of all time whereas sanath and mahela are not even among the top50 great batsmen of all time, from srilanka only sanga can be considered in that list of top 50 great batsmen off all time

  • realfan on May 30, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana infact i dont remember srilanka drwing a test match in AUS let alone winning.....get your stats right mate... you have lost to AUS many times in your own backyard.... 17-1 should be enough proof for you....

  • realfan on May 30, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: correction SACHIN got 28 centuries outside SC not 23.... and also what matters is average ( a measure of consistency ) sachin have 50+ average in both SC and away in tests and 40+ average in odi's in both SC and away , which srilankan players cant even think off...

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 12:02 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: No one's commenting blindly here, its a fact that srilanka has never won a test match in australia, go and check for yourselves, infact in their entire history srilanka has beaten australia just once in test cricket, head to head is 17-1, somewhat similar to what zimbabwe has against australia in test cricket!!

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 12:02 GMT

    @Narbavi-Sir Donald Bradman scored only 29 centuries.Its not a half of Sachin has made.So Sachin is better than Sir DB?

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 11:59 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: lol, way better than india? are you sure? is that why you are yet to win a test in indian soil whereas we have won 10 test matches here in india against you? is that why we have won two odi world cups and one t20 world cup whereas you won only one odi world cup? is it why we have been no,1 in test cricket in the past but you have never ever been there? is it why you haven't been able to win even a single test in aus and infact not even a single test series vs aus even in your own home?

  • Sheela on May 30, 2013, 11:58 GMT

    Previous World Cups in England had similar rules, except power play. So the new rules are really not totally new. Indian players have to adjust to the swing, pace and bounce in England. Going by past records Indians have failed miserably. One wishes present team does better.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: LOL, kohli is a no.3 batsman, Matthews is a finisher, and he remained unbeaten on a lot of occasions in that series, he scored only one fifty, but kohli scored a 50 and a 100 in that series, great comparison, lol, the guy remains not out on 16, not out on 1, and has got a higher average and he compares him with a guy who is a no.3 batsman and has made a fifty and a 100 in those 5 matches!!

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 11:41 GMT

    @28041991-You said we never won a test match against Aus in Aus.Really?Don't comment blindly.Check the stats carefully.We have won test matches in AUS,SA,IND.And do you remember 2006 year we whitewashed[5-0] England in England[ODI].You have never whitewashed out side the SC.PEACE..

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 11:40 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: How many test 100's has sanath made outside SC? how many test hundreds has Mahela made outside SC? add them both, you still won't get even half the amount of 100's sachin has made outside SC, just take a look at mahela's test average outside SC, it is not even 35, same with Sanath, i don't know on what basis you are comparing them, atleast in sanath's case in odi's we can agree he has had a good impact because he is also an all rounder!!

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 30, 2013, 11:38 GMT

    @champ1388 ; One thing I notice from the comments made by Indian fans here that they have completely lost the plot. Dude, This isn't a bilateral series between Sri lanka n India. This is a global tournament. All I talked about was, how these two countries have performed in these English conditions. Why don't you stay on the topic. You will be playing against SA,PAK,WI in these English conditions. All my analysis based on how well the batsmen from India n Sri Lanka have coped with the pace, swing, seam n bounce.

    According to the stats from the recent past, Sri Lanka have done way better than India, individual n team wise. So accept it. Then deal with with it. If you have something to add, reply me with something substantial. not these mumbo-jumbo about test victories, IPL performances or other stuff.

    I'd love to see some sensible comments from Indian fans who actually know something about Cricket. G'luck !!!

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 11:37 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: like i said you never won a series in england, and regarding sachin, everyone knows he is among the top 3 great batsmen ever in the history, don't compare a slogger like sanath with him, and even mahela can't be compared, what if mahela is no.4 batsman? i am asking you how many 100's has mahela scored outside SC? not even half the amount of 100's sachin has made, don't compare guys who don't even have an average of 35 in odi's with sachin!!

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : Didn't you even read my other comments ? I said that in statistics many values have to be taken into consideration to form an average that is considered acceptable. Considering just 5 matches doesn't give us anything concrete. As far as the comparison between Mahela and Taylor is concerned, you must realise that the average doesn't fluctuate much when the number of values taken increases. I wish you understood statistics a little better before you comment about it.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: i think being under our shadows have taken a huge toll on you, my question is simple, if you think you are better than us then why did you get thrashed 4-1 at your own backyard against us?

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana : LOL ! Its percentage buddy. But you forgot to mention that Sachin has a better batting average than either Sanath or Mahela in both Tests and ODIs so it doesn't matter what the percentage of 100s outside the SC is.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 30, 2013, 11:21 GMT

    @andrew27994 ; Dude, Kohli n Mathews have played 5 matches each in England. Kohi averages 38.80 to Mathews' 54.66 . That means Mathews has performed better n been more consistent than Kohli in English conditions. What part of that don't you understand ?? Are you that absent-minded ? Seriously. That's not rocket science dude.

    And about team performances , India 3 outta 12 to Sri Lanka's 8 outta 12. So which team has done well in English conditions ??? How many times do I have to repeat it ??

    And your silly argument about Taylor n Mahela, do you know the difference of the no. of matches they've played is over 250 ?? I'm comparing 2 batsmen who have played same no. of matches (in particular conditions), and you are comparing 2 batsmen who have difference of over 250 matches. So Pls pls pls tell me who is making sense here ?? You own logic goes against you here . Doesn't it.

    Good luck !!!

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 11:20 GMT

    andrew27994-You can't compare Mahela with B Taylor.Because Zim plays with Ban,Ireland,Netherland,Scotland,Kenya.......I think you can understand what i mean.

  • on May 30, 2013, 11:19 GMT

    Best of Luck MS DHONI. This is young team and I am desperately waiting to see this Champions in Champions Trophy ....Hope all will perform much better in this Tournament ....!!!

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 11:11 GMT

    @Narbavi-No matter one test or two test or three test.Its represent a series.Can't expect from Mahela to score 100 centuries.Because he is a num 4 batsman and Sachin is an opener at ODIS.Mahela have scored 45 centuries and 11 came from out of the SC.its 24./. as a presentage.Sachin have scored 100 centuries and 23 came from out of the SC.23./. as a presentage.ha ha who is the leader?And lets looka at Sanath's presentage.He scored 42 centuries and 17 came from out of the SC.As a presentage 40./.

  • realfan on May 30, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    @Jimi01: thats the quality of your team, you only think of being in final is great achievement, but my boy its not... ofcourse we have not been in many finals but we have one almost all the final matches that we have been in.... how many titles have you won really???? how may test matches how you won away from your home falt tracks of premadas...

  • champ1388 on May 30, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    @baseball sucks...I will wait for your comment here, after the tournament is over. How has your team fared and how bad India have done. Dont forget India have always dominated Sri Lanka, whether subcontinent or outside, we have beaten you comprehensively everywhere. If it was a Pakistani, Australian or an SA supporter it was understood. You have the worst dust bowls and flat traks than any other countries and all your players including Mahela and Sanga are flat track bullies and you question Indian player"s technique, laughable . Have you forgotten the thrashing of 2011 world cup mate?!

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 30, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    @ Narbavi ; I agree with you. yes, Sri Lanka is a very good team. lol And Its way better than India. That's why we've knocked you outta not one but 3 WC's and 3 Asia cups. lol But those are not relevant for this up coming tournament in English conditions.

    Speaking of the recent success in England, Sri Lanka have won 8 outta 12 matches where India managed to win only 3, THREE. So pls pls pls tell me who has done well in England recently ???? lol

    And keep in mind that this is an ODI tournament (not test or t20) which is gonna be held in English conditions.

  • realfan on May 30, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana : ofcourse we have not won a test series in AUS and SA, but when was the last time you won a single TEST match IN AUS, SA, and in INDIA for that fact??? when was the last time you won a ODI against india...atleast we have managed to draw the series in AUS and SA and won series in ENG...

    come stats... take a look a your great mahela he palyed 34 matches away from asia and averaged mere 33 with total of 5 centuries away from ASIA.. all 28 centuries have come in FLAT PREMADHASA of yours... that show the quality of batting in mahela... he is ultimate flat track bully, in fact srilankans are not even home tigers when they play against india....PEACE....

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    @Jimi01 : You didn't get my point. Since the retirement of Murali, SL's track record hasn't been brilliant. They were a dangerous side when they had the likes of Atapattu, Vaas , Jayasuriya and Murali. Since then they have had a bad track record even at home so it's not wise to be overconfident that they will get to the semis. You can at least say that they have a reasonable chance of getting into the semis.

    I'm not guaranteeing that India will get into semis because I don't underestimate other sides and prefer not to be overconfident.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 10:37 GMT

    @andrew27994: Thing is they are a good team, but never better than india, that's where the problem lies when they mock india's overseas record when their own overseas record is much poorer

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: look, in 1998 you didn't win that series in england, you won a test match that's it, you haven't won even a single test series in england!! Even though we haven't won a test series in SA, we have drawn a series but you guys never even drew a series in SA, you talk about sachin scoring only 23 outside SC, how many have mahela and sanga together have scored outside SC?

  • Jimi01 on May 30, 2013, 10:08 GMT

    @andrew27994.

    "How can they expect to enter semi finals when they cant win at home"

    For the record, not only Sri Lanka's been in semi finals but countless Finals.

    Im guessing youre talking about not being able to win against Bangladesh? If you watched the match you shouldve known the pitches were like glass, even Sachin in his current form can score a 100.

    How many finals has your country been in?

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 9:51 GMT

    @Narbavi-Refresh your knowledge.We had won the series against England in England at 1998 and we had drawn the test series when we met at 2006 in England.And your team also have never won a series at Australia.And your guys have never won a series at SA as well.And your Sachin have scored 100 centuries.Only 23 centuries have scored out of the SC.All other 77 centuries were scored at flat pitches.PEACE.

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    @Narbavi : I'll tell you why. It's because SL is not a team. They depend only on a few individuals to perform when they go overseas. How can they expect to enter the semi-finals when they can't even win a series at home.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana : It means your batsmen score big in your home flat tracks, only sanga has a decent overseas average, but then again, the averages of sachin, dravid etc are much higher than sanga in overseas conditions, Sanga and mahela have scored heavily in your flat pitches back home, that's why they are above 50, if not tell me why they haven't been able to win a test in australia or india over the years? or even a test series in england?

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 9:07 GMT

    @Narbavi-Yes i like to talk about bigger formats.That man Harmony111 boasts we couldn't chase 140 at wct20 2012 final.That's why i talked about t20.

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : You mentioned about batting averages of the India and Sri Lanka batsmen but you so conveniently forgot the bowling averages because you must've noticed that Kulasekara has an astounding bowling average of 197. LOL !!

    But a sensible person knows not to judge a player for just 5 matches. Kulasekara's overall bowling average is much better than this. So your previous comments are utterly without logic.

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    @Narbavi : Good point you made. Look at that match where Kusal Perera scored his 336 in the first class match and see his S.R. Also see the scorecard and R.R in that match. It proves that SL also prepare flat wickets.

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 8:10 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana : Yes those averages actually mean something because these players have played a lot of matches. So the higher the average of the player, the more consistent he is. So in this case, yes, Sanga is the more consistent from the 4 you mentioned.

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 8:01 GMT

    @Andrew27994-Test Averages:Sanga-57,Sachin-54,Lara-53,Kallis-56.What is the meaning of that averages?

  • Sultan2007 on May 30, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    India HAS won the ICC trophy. They were joint Champions in SriLanka in 2002. They went unbeaten to the finals under Sourav Ganguly

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: Talk about the bigger format here, why t20? talk about one day cricket, why did your team lose 4-1 to us in your own home?

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: i never mentioned about Pujara to you in the first place, so why even bother? and what tracks do you have at home? green tracks? the world's batting records are all made in those flat pitches in your country and you talk about flat pitches in india

  • andrew27994 on May 30, 2013, 7:17 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : You are counter-questioning me instead of answering to the point. I said averages mean something when there are lot of observations involved. Do you not know anything in statistics ? How can you come to a conclusion with just 5 matches ? I gave you statistics with a lot of observations,i.e, Taylor's and Mahela's overall batting averages where a lot of matches were played. So according to that Taylor must be a better batsman than Mahela in ODIs. And I never said that averages do not matter. It does when you have a lot of observations taken into consideration.

    And mind you, majority of our Indian batsmen average a lot higher compared to Mahela so your point about not having any Indian batsmen is irrelevant.

  • on May 30, 2013, 7:07 GMT

    A warm up game against Sri lanka wont be of much use for both the teams, instead Nzl or Eng might have been a better option. I think India can defeat WI & Pak & they have a fair chance to enter SF. I dont think in ODI there is any problem in batting for India, Dhoni , Raina all are big hitters but i m little concerned about bowling- the combo of BBS, Pathan & Vinay can contain batsmen but they dont have the class to bowl any team out. We have seen jadeja bowling well in Indian condition but whether he will be able to bowl a 10 over spell ? Lot of ifs & buts for Indian team , all the best team India u have to really raise ur standards to lift the cup...

  • sony_sr on May 30, 2013, 6:59 GMT

    pujara was excluded to be part of the a-team tour to south africa. selectors want him to have some batting practice ahead of the test series.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 30, 2013, 6:55 GMT

    @Narbavi ; Pujara can prove himself with his domestic records to Indian selection panel, but not to us. LOL So you can't bring those flat track domestic records here n say Pujara is a good a ODI batsman. lol As far as we concern, Pujara is a nobody in the ODI format. Ciao

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    @Romenevans: Surely you are brand new to cricket to comment on msd like that, he was the man of the series when he played the one day series last time in england

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    @Albert_cambell: Jadeja did it in first class cricket, pujara did it in limited overs cricket, what's your point now? how else can a cricketer prove himself and force his way in? he is a very good test cricketer and proved his credentials as a good limited overs player by scoring runs domestically, what else he needs to do to warrant a odi spot?

  • Jinasoma on May 30, 2013, 6:27 GMT

    Harmony111-Atleast we came to final at 2012 t20 WC.But what your team did?Atleast your team couldn't make semis.No difference our conditions and your conditions.It's familiar conditions for yours as well.But you won against Afganistan barely.Remember?And you lost badly against Aus.Dhoni said rain helps to Aus that's why we lost badly.Dhoni has excuse at everytime.And what have your team done for last 3 WC t20s.According to Indians Sri Lankans aren't t20 material.But we are the num1 t20 team in the world.

  • somethingdifferent on May 30, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    I wish best of luck to MSD. I feel that with the inexperienced openers he will once again have to take up a lot of responsibility as a batsman along with VK. I am surprised at denish Kartick's selection as 2 keepers are not needed for such a short tournament and if he is selected as the 3rd opener then the yardstick for his selection (IPL) is not right. I am also doubtful about the performance of Raina and Rohit sharma as both are very talented but inconsistent. Pace bowling has been the India's week link in recent times so instead of strengthening the pace department, selecting 3 spinners for english conditions is not understandable. If they were thinking about cardiff , India has only 1 match there and that to against SA. Unwise selection.

  • Albert_cambell on May 30, 2013, 5:21 GMT

    @Narbavi. Averaging 50 on Indias flat wickets does not make Pujara a good ODI batsman. Even Jadeja scored 2 triple centuries in the Domestic tournament. I guess even Ashish Nehra would average 50 if he opens the batting in a domestic tournament in India.

  • Narbavi on May 30, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    @ Adithya Bourne : Your views on pujara is wrong, he is a very good batsman for the 50 over format too, just take a look at his domestic record for 50 overs cricket, averages above 50 with a good strike rate, he will also be useful in these conditions, should have been our opener instead of vijay

  • KAMAL44 on May 30, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    Dhoni your team will out of the tournament in first round because your team had poor performance outside INDIA.

  • Romenevans on May 30, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni it won't be like Chennai's flat track where you can clear your front foot and slog it over mid wicket and bowlers won't be bowling full-tosses like Indian kids does in IPL. The moment it will start swinging, we'll see him dance.

  • on May 30, 2013, 2:40 GMT

    IND batsmen will do well in england...i guess the last time when they played odi series in eng,ind batsmen consistently scored big runs...don't forget dhoni won the man of the series and batsmen like virat,raina,rahane scored huge amaount of runs there...india's main problem will be bowling especially death bowling...bhuvaneshwar kumar will take care of new ball but we don't have good death bowlers....so we need to rely on b.kumar's swing and we also need our spinners to choke the runs...

    @Nampally,why u r obsessed with pujara,he maybe a good test batsman but he doesn't deserve a place in the limited overs side as he is poor fielder and also poor in running between the wickets....and he can't accelerate when needed....

  • realfan on May 30, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    first of all i would like to tell all the best to team india.... enough of home wins now, please try to win the trophy. i know its difficult, bu this should be a good experience for the new guys ( Dhwan, bhuvi) , please dont let the hopes of indian fans down.....

    and all indian hating fans of asia.... stop day dreaming none of the asian country has the ability to win to go to the play off, let alone winning...if there is slightest chance of winning the trophy , then its india...considering the form of their players, and none of srilankan players are in form except parera( source IPL ) and pakisthan ( less talk , better it is ) BD ( nah , not in picture ).... all you whining can be kept to your after matches comments .... thats all i will say, its not a reply for any message.... but you can reply , i will give answers...

  • aa61761 on May 30, 2013, 1:12 GMT

    South Africa, Pakistan/west Indies, Australia and England will play the semi final. Irrespective of who reaches semi final, I am pretty sure that England and South Africa will play the final. Only England and South Africa are complete teams, they have solid batting and bowling. England has edge in spin. All others are incomplete teams.

  • on May 29, 2013, 23:05 GMT

    2 Bouncers in an over WOW

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 21:27 GMT

    @andrew27994 ; Really, now you can't find an Indian player to compare with n bring a Zim player . Mahela vs Taylor. Nice going. LOL I'm not even gonna go there. A waste of time. You don't seem to understand what I'm saying here. According to you averages mean nothing. So according to you Sir Bradman's avg 99.99 means nothing and Gayle is a better batsman than Sachin since Sachin has never scored a triple hundred n Gayle has. LOL Very very childish pal. I will not waste my time on you anymore. First, go n learn something about Cricket first. then come n comment. Adios !!!

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 21:27 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : You keep reminding us how great Perera performed in the IPL. But at the same time, when the other SL players were criticised for their poor performances, you came up with a load of excuses and stated that IPL is not a yardstick to measure good players. Your comments make absolutely no sense. From what I can make out from your comments is that only SL players are world class and other teams are minnows. That proves your comments are biased with no logic.

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : Stats don't reveal the number of catches a player has dropped. Only the number of catches taken is registered. You must not be watching the matches on TV but just reading the scorecard and looking at stats.

    When I compared stats of Brendan Taylor and Mahela Jayawardene, you refused to comment on that matter. And mind you, Taylor's highest score of 145* was made against SA in SA. So its a certainty that on the basis of your judgement, Taylor must be a better batsman than Mahela. What a joke !

    Oh and the real difference between your comments and mine is that mine are based on true facts and events but yours are manipulated to favour SL players only because of your personal bias and prejudices.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 20:13 GMT

    @andrew27994 ; This is the difference between your comments n mine. While You are just thrash talking n mud-slinging, I bring my arguments backed up by stats n facts. lol Again, focus on the subject. This is a tournament played in England. What you did in India, SL or Pakistan irrelevant coz in England you are gonna face totally different conditions. You are not counter attacking any of my comments, but just talking rubbish. C'mon.. I'm now begging to think that you are not a worthy opponent to have an argument with. Btw calling Sanga a horrible keeper might ruin your reputation. lol G'luck !!

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    @ Harmony111 ; First, The Champians Trophy is an ODI tournament in case u didn't know. Do u know how silly u sound when u compare T20 n ODI ? Do u really think our players take these domestic T20 competitions seriously ? Its a paid vacation for our players. Ur whole argument goes to dustbin right there. lol Btw 2 of my comments(replies for u) didn't get posted. Its not my fault. Why would I run away when u all do is, talk about some stuff which are completely irreverent to the topic we r talking about. All u talk about is, T20s , 83 WC win and some other stuff. Pls focus on the task at hand. "the recent performance in English conditions". Go n read my previous comments. There u will see pretty clearly how poor your Indians have performed- averages of each batsman n winning percentage in England. SL are way ahead of your poor team. And yeah, Mathews revolutionized the art of fielding by jumping in the air n throwing the ball back to another fielder to complete the catch. lol

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 20:02 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : FYI, Brendan Taylor from Zimbabwe has a higher batting average and a better high score than Jayawardene. So what does that mean ? Does it make him a better batsman than Mahela ? You are the one making baseless comments.

  • maddy20 on May 29, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    @ Tal_Botvinnik 8 Consecutivewhitewashes? Care to name the tournaments? Last I checked Eng 2011 and Aus 2011 are the only consecutive whitewashes. And by the by did you know that SL did not win a single test in India, Aus and won 1 each in England and SA till date in their illustrious 35 years of test cricket? Those who live in glass houses should not hurl stones at others!

  • on May 29, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    Oh I can see Dhoni started to seek excuses even before the start of the series. I would love to see how many runs will scored by Raina, Vijay, Dhawan, Rohith. I can bet on one thing neither of those batsman mentioned above will not gonna score a single half century in this tournament. Only batsmen that can handle bouncers in indian team is Kholi. Pak and SL can handle bouncers better than India. So I expect first round exit for India. SA and Pak would go through. Where as in other group it will be little hard to predict. Eng would be favorites but Aus and NZ can handle bouncers better than SL. But SL performed well against Aus in recent times. So it would be anyones game. So I think it will be SA, Pak, and Eng and other spot can be SL or Aus.

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 19:29 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : Are you kidding me ? Mathews revolutionized the art of fielding ? Have you even seen how many easy catches he has dropped in recent times. He is probably the worst among the SL fielders currently. And Sanga is a horrible wicket-keeper. I remember him dropping some easy catches against Pakistan last year.

    Oh and this same team which got whitewashed in England thrashed you guys 4-1 in your own backyard. We may be flat-track bullies but SL is usually the victim of our bullying. LOL.

    The only teams SL have beaten of recent are minnows like Bangladesh and a very weak Australia team. But I guarantee you that Australia is going to thrash SL in their upcoming match.

  • on May 29, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    best of luck india xi because without shewag gambir zaheer and yuvi u will playing champions trophy all of youngstar good decison sector.

  • Harmony111 on May 29, 2013, 19:12 GMT

    @Baseball-sucks:

    You are so caught up in your own dream world that you have no idea about the real world. MJ and Sanga were huge failures in the IPL. Angelo too did nothing of note and was largely responsible for Pune's horror run. Dilshan was not good enough for even a domestic Indian team RCB. So there vanish 4 of your so called top players.

    Then you start your hyperbole about how Angelo revolutionized fielding in the world. Let the poor all-rounder first learn to bat and ball, we all saw how this so called all rounder played in the IPL and how this future leader of SL played one of the silliest shots in WT20 Final in the history of Cricket. You think these people will win you CT?

    All these players were still there when India toured SL in 2012 and in the last CB Series. What happened there? India cleaned SL 4-1 in SL and 2-1 in Aus with 1 tie match due to umpire's goof-up else India would have been in the finals.

    Btw, you *AGAIN* ran away after my 12:19 GMT comment. Tch Tch Tch.

  • Hunny_Chugh on May 29, 2013, 19:01 GMT

    Go Dhoni Go, We have a full faith on yoi\u

  • Harmony111 on May 29, 2013, 18:38 GMT

    @ Isuru-Horana: Ha Ha Ha. Just what I had said for ppl like. In the same time period India have reached 2 WC Finals and have won both of them. 2/2 is India's record and 0/4 is Sri Lanka's record. What's more, India won 1 WC away and 1 WC at home in this same time period while your team couldn't even chase <140 runs in a T20 match AT HOME. Nothing can be more humiliating that this for those who say that India do well at home only, you guys don't do well ANYWHERE.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    @andrew27994 ; Averages don't mean anything ??? lol For example : Kohli has played 5 matches n averages 38.80 . Mathews has played the same no. of matches (5) n averages 54.66. So what are you talking about "a few matches were taken into consideration. " ??? LOL As I remember your same vibrant side got whitewashed in England last time (and lost to Pakistan too 2:1). LOL Well, we all saw how Kohli dropped Miller (ball hit right on the face) in the IPL. You have worst fielders compare to Dilshan (one of the best in the world), Mathews ( revolutionized the art of fielding ), Thisara Perera (have you seen his fielding in the IPL) , Mahela (the best slip catcher in the world ), Sanga (one of the best Wkeepers), Kusal Perera n etc. G'luck anyway !!!

  • Johnny_129 on May 29, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    It's weird, when the WI had dominating fast bowlers, the laws were changed to limit bouncers. Now, that WI's fast bowling stocks have declined (while Eng and Aus are strong in this department currently) suddenly the bouncers are being increased. And to make it a double-wammy, spinners are being disadvantaged now that India is the main threat to Eng & Aus. Seems like a conspiracy to me!! Why change the rules back and forth?

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 18:03 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks : These averages you stated don't mean anything because only a few matches were taken into consideration. Furthermore India have a much younger and vibrant side as compared to the SL team which always play the same faces. Our fielding unit is much better than Sri Lanka's. Ask Australia and Pakistan team.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    @ Narbavi : lol, You are just making some strange statements here. But you need facts, stats to back 'em up. Just look at the averages of batsmen n winning percentages in my previous comments. Even a child would understand how poor Indians have performed in English conditions, n how well SL batsmen have performed in these conditions. lol India will be crushed by PAK, SA n WI. G'luck ! lol

  • Tal_Botvinnik on May 29, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    @Narbavi: 8 consecutive oversea's whitewashes and 2-1 hammering by the englishmen. it says it all doesn't it? To add to the misery a ODI hammering by the pakistanis. Oh and By the way didn't you read that article about which Subcontinent team has the best overseas ODI record?

  • kapilesh23 on May 29, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    It is good that no one here is talking about the man who is responsible for almost all the ODI success of India for last 2-3 years 'Kohli'. All the attention right now is to the openers, with everyone going after Vijay and Dhawan. But I don't care I would wait for a wicket to fall and Kohli to come in and bat,

  • Tal_Botvinnik on May 29, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    Indian fans here gotta realize they will be facing SA,PAK and WI in swinging and seaming conditions. Dale Steyn,Junaid Khan,U Gul, K Roach,Rampaul,Morkel etc will be licking their lips. On the other hand Indian bowlers like Mishra, Kumar, Sharma, Ashwin will be cannon fodder for hungry AB,Amla, Gayle and Jamshed, etc (HA HA remember him?).

    @siddhartha87 Sehwag,Gambhir,Yuuvraaj,Zaheer,Harbajan all are dropped. all of em contributed to the 2011 WC win. Now the chances of you qualifying for the semis are dropped as well.

  • SevereCritic on May 29, 2013, 17:03 GMT

    This is a very young Indian side. Should be interesting to see how they do in their first major ODI tournament overseas in 20 yrs without SRT.

  • starincricket on May 29, 2013, 16:57 GMT

    Sachin,Dravid,Ganguly and other greats also did not have experience in English conditions when they elected to play in England for the first time..

    Let them play the warm up matches , that is the first experience for them..

    All the best Team India..!!

  • Jinasoma on May 29, 2013, 16:54 GMT

    @Harmony111-Yes we have achieved 4 world cup finals for last five years.That shows how consistent we are at these world tournements.

  • Narbavi on May 29, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: You bring in only the last 5 games that both teams have played in england, on an overall perspective your team has always been at its worst in challenging conditions, it won't change now, time will tell!!

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 16:24 GMT

    @andrew27994 ; We've got 4 batsmen with outstanding records (averages around 50, FIFTY) in English pitches. So Dilshan's average is the least of our concerns. LOL But you've got an awful lot to worry about. All your batsmen have awful records in England. You have won only 3 matches outta the most recent 12 matches played in England compare to SL's record - 8 wins outta 12. Dhawan, Murali Vijay, B. Kumar , Ishant Sharma n Rohit Sharma have never played in English conditions. Specially B.Kumar n Ishant Sharma, 2 of main bowlers have never set foot on a English pitch. lol So..It doesn't look very pretty bud. :)

  • LovedFansofIndianCricket on May 29, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    Mr Dhoni. Pls choose any player for opening slot except Vijay. He is not in good form(See IPL), not a good player in Overseas and English Condition. Ishant or Vinay is good than Vijay as Opener(lol)

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 15:47 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: You forgot your main batsman Dilshan who averages just 9.12 and Jeevan Mendis averages just 25.

  • on May 29, 2013, 15:45 GMT

    Opening partnership will hold the key, in Eng u need ur top 3 batsmento bat longer (30-35 overs), n here i think pujara will be missed. In warm up games i would like to have a look at kartikh as well - My team for 1st warm up game will be - dhawan-vijay, kartik, kohli, dhoni, raina, jadeja, ashwin, pathan, bhubaneswar, ishant/vinay

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 15:27 GMT

    Here are the averages of Indian n Sri Lankan batsmen in England.

    India : Dhoni - 41.10 / Raina - 39.60 / Kohli - 38.80 / D.Karthik - 13.00 /

    Sri Lanka : Mathews - 54.66 / Chandimal : 54.66 (same as Mathews) / Sanga - 48.25 / Mahela - 43.80 .

    So It clearly shows who has done better on pacy English pitches. Indian batsmen don't stand a chance up there in England

  • Nampally on May 29, 2013, 14:37 GMT

    New Rules will be least of Dhoni's Challenges. In absence of ZAK &Yuvraj, India has lost their trump card in bowling & experience that won them the World ODI, 2 years back. By omitting Pujara from the squad, the heart of Indian batting is missing. Pujara was one guy who could stand at one end irrespective of wkts. falling or batting prospering at the other end. Now the Indian batting is very vulnerable on bouncy green England pitches demanding correct footwork & sound defence. India has to forget their batting & bowling exploits on their home pitches & adapt themselves to different types of pitches very fast or else it will be a short tour. Amongst the bowlers B.Kumar has the ability to shine. Ishant needs to focus on his line & length + direction if he wants to use his pace. So has Yadev. Ashwin & Jadeja will succeed only on spin friendly wkts. if they get any. In batting they have an uphill task. They got to avoid Gambhir type of poking at the balls outside the off stump. Good Luck!

  • Fogu on May 29, 2013, 14:24 GMT

    In my opinion, Eng, Aus, SA and Pak have the best chance of making the semi-final due to their bowling attacks and the English conditions. WI may surprise people if their top order clicks. IND may score a lot of runs but their bowling may not be strong in this conditions to contain other teams. SL and NZ are unpredictable. Looking forward to good competition.

  • on May 29, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    Yuvi has always underperformed in the IPL. But he is a big match player. Jadeja is good but nowhere near Yuvi in terms of skill and match winning ability.

  • shouvicic on May 29, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Thats really a shocker to me that max 4 fielders will be allowed outside the inner circle in any stage of the game. In the last few years the ODI rules have already been amended in batsmen s favor and i think that was more than enough. Thinking of a larger picture when the youngsters sees these rules, it's never going to encourage them to become a spinner or a fast bowler(India have always lagged proper bowlers on a constant basis). It is a hell amount of biasing towards the batsmen. The ODI playing nations should strictly oppose this. The intention might be to make every innings an high scoring ones and more entertaining to retain the count of viewers but end of the day, ICC is really trying to spoil the real essence of the GAME.

  • Naresh28 on May 29, 2013, 13:48 GMT

    India will struggle on the BOWLING front. Gone are the comforts of sub-continent aiding spin. Since Zaks downhill slide we dont have anyone who can take this role on. Zaks was a thinking bowler!!!!!

  • Nitin2208 on May 29, 2013, 13:26 GMT

    India have a history of doing well with young sides in the big tournaments (Champions trophy 2000,2002 & T-20 WC 2007). All I can say as a diehard indian cricket fan is lets pray history repeats itself.

  • Nitin2208 on May 29, 2013, 13:17 GMT

    India's success largely depends on how they perform in small battles in the matches e.g. Fiery spells of fast bowlers,breaking partnerships at crucial junctures. Believe me India needs only couple of thier batsman to find supreme form in the warm up matches & then taking it in the actual tournament.If they manage to do that then they are tough side to beat. To sumup India's batting needs to click if it does then we are sure of success !!

  • MrCricketFan1981 on May 29, 2013, 13:01 GMT

    Everyone says Sehwag & Gambhir should be picked, and Dhawan & Vijay performance in India doesn't mean they can play in England. But Sehwag & Gambhir have not scored in India itself, how can they score in England. The best team has been picked and thats it. We should only admire past reputations of good players, not have them in our team for past scores.

  • on May 29, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    @ Subhankar Maulik ; How could you forget Yuvi when you are talking about world t20 and icc worldcup triumphs. Man of the series on both the occasions. Just a mere thing ;)

  • siddhartha87 on May 29, 2013, 12:45 GMT

    @Srilankan fans : Murali and Jayasurya is retired now. That means your chance of winning a global tournament is retired now.

  • Sir.Ivor on May 29, 2013, 12:38 GMT

    I have a feeling that this team will do well in the Champion's trophy even if they do not win it. June in England is quite cold and rainy. Apart from England and to some extent New Zealand, I don't think any other team be vulnerable will be comfortable playing in those conditions. Even English batting may be vulnerable in those conditions because they do not have any Boycott in their team now. So if the weather stays good on certain days we could see some good cricket. The forecast for June is on the above mentioned lines. The PCB must be commended for sending their team early to Ireland. They will probably well conditioned before the tournament actually starts.But the winner could be a surprise. Ifeel that Cardiff and Manchester could be good for the spinners. Amit Mishra will be a potent weapon in his present form. He is a good enough bat as well as he showed when he was in England in 2011. The players more used to cold will obviously do well.

  • MAK123 on May 29, 2013, 12:34 GMT

    The betting line-up...oops...the batting line-up of both Pakistan and India looks frail and dilusional. Put up a score of over 220 and the super stars on both sides would fall like house of cards

  • Taha_Farrukh on May 29, 2013, 12:30 GMT

    My prediction 1st semi Pakistan Vs Srilanka 2nd Semi Australia Vs England final Pakistan Vs England......... u will see Inshallah

  • Harmony111 on May 29, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: Lame it is but from your side not mine. You said many stupid things against MSD on this article --- Aggressive Mumbai end title drought---

    I exposed you there and then you ran away from there and now you are telling me that I am making lame comments?

    Let's see what you claim here. Nothing new actually. You have had these same Malinga, MJ, Sanga, Chandimal, Angelo for yrs and what have they won for SL? ZILCH. But as usual, you still talk about these players as if they are inter-galactic champions. This same set couldn't win WC for SL in 2011 in familiar conditions and these same players failed to chase a <140 total in the WT20 Final AT HOME. Expecting them to do anything special in England is laughable but I admire your dreamy eyes.

    Reg my original comment, I did not say that Ind will win CT cos they had won WC in 1983. In fact I had NOTHING about Ind's chances. I had merely mentioned facts.

  • on May 29, 2013, 12:07 GMT

    first semifinal west-indies Vs england second semifinal srilanka Vs australia final england Vs srilanka but champions tropy ?............. lets wait nd see...........

  • SherjilIslam on May 29, 2013, 11:57 GMT

    I still believe that Yuvraj should be there in the team.....his game reaches several notches high whenever he plays for India.Don't judge him by his IPL performance, he never performed exceptionally in the IPL. Zaheer could have proved handy, but i don't have any complains because his fitness can't be trusted and he himself is not sure of his fitness.C Pujara is one more guy i strongly believe should be there in this team, the reason being very simple.We have enough pinch hitters in the team and at least require a guy who shall stabilize the inning against shaky starts and also he has got a good technique against quality swing and fast bowling. Don't understand what M Vijay is doing in this team.

  • dirtydozen on May 29, 2013, 11:45 GMT

    I think india should have selected a player like kaif. he averages 58.33 in odi's held in england. and he is a good fielder. Does anybody remember his knock of 87 against england in the natwest finals. Also indian selectors should consider him for the sa tour to be held in december

  • on May 29, 2013, 11:20 GMT

    I think india could win games if M.S and Raina performs.And also they Hv to improve their bowling line up.Otherwise it,s quite difficult for them.The match b/w Pak & Ind is interesting that how both teams react.Totally mind games.Both sides hv cool captains.

  • Nitin2208 on May 29, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    I think indian selectors hav missed a trick by not including Yuvraj Singh in the squad he has always done well in England & his inclusion would have strenthend rather inexperienced middle order, not to mention his allround abilities.Main stay of indian batting has to be Kohli & Dhoni if these two players fail then I think we would again see repeat of 2009 English summer for India. Looking forward to see one man bowling in England i.e Bhuvneshwar Kumar. Can imagine his sharp inswingers rattling the stupms & LBW appeals against SAF,WI & Pak. Cant wait this tournamnet to start... Pls dont disappoint us MSD & Co. Wish you all the luck in the world !!

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    @Harmony111 ; That's pretty lame of you to bring up something which happened, i donno , like 30 yrs ago. lol How in the god's green earth can you say that India will have a shot at winning the CT coz they've won the WC in England in 80's ?? LOL Dude, just look at the recent records of India in England. India have managed to win only 3 matches outta last 12 ODI's played in England. LOL

    On the other hand , Sri Lanka have won 8 matches outta last 12 ODI's played in England. LOL So, You might wanna rethink before making silly statements coz your credibility is on the line here.

    Sri Lanka have a very good bowling attack which comprises Malinga (the best limited overs bowler in the world), Kula n Eranga. And our batsmen such as Mahela, Sanga, Chandimal, Mathews have excelled in English conditions. And we've got a BRAND NEW machinery in the shed , Kusal Perera. So sorry India, you won't stand a chance here in the big boy's league.

  • Harshmeswanirafanadal on May 29, 2013, 10:55 GMT

    All the best India! Looking forward to seeing some worth watching cricket after ipl circus. Our batting looks vulnerable without gambhir yuvi and sehwag but we still have some in form players! Dunno why vijay and karthik r there but. Bowling better than usual indian bowling but still not up to the mark. I feel we make it to semis before loosing. We will lose to SA in group stage but beat pak nd wi. Hoping for a great tournament. With this and Roland Garros of course my eyes will be glued to tv. Come on India! Make me eat my words and win the tournament

  • Harmony111 on May 29, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    Guys there is a fundamental difference between how the word "GOOD" is interpreted by the RoW and by the SL fans. Much of the RoW would interpret GOOD putting up impressive performances AND winning once in a while. It is clear that SL fans like Isuru-Horana and others think that the clause after AND above is not necessary.

    For Indian fans in particular reaching even Finals is not enough most of the time and losing them is seen as huge failure. This is why poor Sachin is called as selfish and panauti by some Ind fans when in fact he was often responsible for pulling India to the Finals and being human was liable to fail sometime or the other.

    But for SL fans, reaching a final or losing a series is not bad. I still remember that a few SL fans had said that SL put up a good fight vs India last time when we thrashed them IN THEIR HOME 4-1.

    For Ind losing a match by 1 run or 1 wicket is still a loss but for SL fans, losing a match by 50 runs is GOOD, earlier they used to lose by 150 :-p

  • QingdaoXI on May 29, 2013, 10:51 GMT

    SA vs ENG first semi final and India vs Australia second semi final, Final India vs England and Team India Champions of Champions Trophy 2013. My prediction India will not loss a single match. Come India Dikha do.............

  • Jinasoma on May 29, 2013, 10:38 GMT

    @Narbavi-2008?5 years ago....We have played well our last 3or4 series at out of the SC.You can't deny that.Last Aus series,CB series,Natwest series,2010 AUS siries,2012 SA series.But you record isn't good.

  • Sheikasif on May 29, 2013, 10:29 GMT

    India is lucky to have MS Dhoni as Captain. As a Bangla tigers fan, I would love to have someone as Dhoni as captain of tigers. Those talking bad about Dhoni is only doing becoz of jelaousy. Definately, India, England and South Africa have equal chances of making the final. West Indies are my dark horses. Others except for pakistan have an outside slim chance. Pakistan has no chance.....

  • Harmony111 on May 29, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana: Good enough outside the subcontinent? What exactly have SL won outside the SC and in toto? In case you ask me back what India have won outside SC then let me preempt it by mentioning that inter alia India have won a WC in the same place where this CT is going to be held.

  • on May 29, 2013, 10:13 GMT

    Youhave to prove dhoni once again,Best of luck team india.

  • on May 29, 2013, 10:07 GMT

    I hope the selectors revisit the selection of M Vijay. He has not come good even in the IPL - the likes of a young Sanju Samson made Vijay look so frail! Please play Rahane. Atleast he's a lot more steady!

  • LALITHKURUWITA on May 29, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    @latecut_04

    I do agree with you Ind ans SL will play in the Final. (For the last place)

  • Ayush_Chauhan on May 29, 2013, 10:00 GMT

    This is by far the youngest Indian team to go on a tour (if I think the last time was when we sent a team to Zimbawe for a tr-series). I would like to think that this is a good team, but we will see about that. I am not overtly optimistic, but I think we can get the job done with a bit of luck.

  • LALITHKURUWITA on May 29, 2013, 9:59 GMT

    @naagesh_maisha, Pak will win against Ind. Pas has always played against India in UK.

  • Ven61 on May 29, 2013, 9:40 GMT

    Batting may flourish, but the weakness lies in our bowling and captaincy. The silver lining is that it will not be as testing as test cricket.

  • GerrardLK on May 29, 2013, 9:35 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni is trying to cover up facing swinging conditions to new rules. Indian batsmen should first learn to bat straight & defend a good ball. But they're just trying to play flamboyant cricket. And what about their bowlers?? Ishant, Yadav, Dinda, Nehra etc. The oppostion wont even mind chasing 500 with this street level bowling attack.

  • siddhartha87 on May 29, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    Indian batting line up looks pretty lame to be honest. Like the last ODI series in England all the hard work will have to be done Raina and Dhoni.The opening pair looks pretty ordinary. Let's face it, Vijay is pretty ordinary player on seaming pitches. Jadeja will be another huge flop in the English pitches. Bhuvaneshwar Kumar looks good.The seaming condition should help him.There is no chancce of India winning this tournament unless the trio of Kohli,raina and Dhoni pull out some sort of magic.

  • Kashi0127 on May 29, 2013, 9:12 GMT

    @GRVJPR Patriotism is good and to be appreciated - being realistic is wise. Gayle performance though most entertaining is still not much to write about. Shorter boundaries, bowlers deliberately dishing out long hops most cricketers would succeed. Reality is true cricket will NOT have these (IPL) grounds. True cricket match will NOT force bowlers to bowl at mediocre levels (as was done by IPL administrators). That is the reason I compared IPL to film stars cricket or the early 1980's benefit matches. I am not saying India does not have talent, but having played IPL the players would have forgotten to play the real game. At best Champion Trophy can be used by India team to get back to reality and re educate themselves and be prepared for next set of real cricket whenever that may be.

  • Xain.Yousfani on May 29, 2013, 9:06 GMT

    In English conditions, i would have loved to see both the Kumars Parveen and Bhuwnesh opening the bowling for India.. They both do fair damage with the new bowl when conditions suit seamers. However, with this indian team i feel if kohli or dhoni are left out for some reasons, India will be in all sorts of trouble.

    Never the less good Luck team India :-)

  • FAB_ALI on May 29, 2013, 9:02 GMT

    Best possible India XI- Dhawan, Vijay, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Irfan, Ashwin, Vinay, Bhuvi, Yadav. because I think Jadeja, Irfan and Ashwin are good enough to hang around with Dhoni, Raina or Kohli and it also gives you enough room for bowling changes when you have four pacers and two spinners.

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 9:01 GMT

    @GRVJPR-Goodness me!!!how in the world can you say that India is the most consistant team in ODIs currently.Agreed we are world champions and deservedly so because it was held in Asia where lack of variety in bowling can be overcome by having batsmen who can roll their arms.This is also an answer to the critics who say India won ONLY because the tournament was in India.Lets face it teams like Oz and SA really do not play well when the ball does not come on the bat nicely and when conditions DO NOT favor fast bowling.Talking about CT this is going to be held in England and you need quality seamers/atleast bitsn pieces seamers(like Ganguly)to be effective.AUs,Eng,SA,NZ and to an extent PAk and WI have them and that definitely gives them an edge.Talking about batting you need batsmen who have SOME defensive technique because bowlers command a bit of respect under these conditions.Do Shikhar,Vijay etc have this..we will find out in the coming weeks.Raina has already been found out as NOT h

  • Narbavi on May 29, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    @Isuru-Horana : Good enough out of the subcontinent? LOL, is that why they are yet to win a test in australia and a series in england? you will boast about how your team finished runners up in 2012 cb series, then how about india winning it in 2008?

  • naagesh_maisha on May 29, 2013, 8:46 GMT

    m looking forward for the biggest clash on the tournament (Ind Vs Pak) its the one game which m waiting for, & want my country to win againts pak

  • Ali_86xz on May 29, 2013, 8:46 GMT

    Vijay has had a really poor IPL this season. He shoud have been replaced by Rahane. And what about Umesh Yadav, why was he selected over Praveen, Sandeep, Mohit, etc. Delhi lost many of their games due to him. India should have looked like this: 1) Dhawan 2) Rahane 3) Kohli 4) Raina 5) Rohit 6) Dhoni (Capt+Wk) 7) Jadeja 8) Ashwin 9) Bhuvneshwar 10) Ishant 11) Praveen/Mohit/Sandeep - But not Yadav for sure. he above is a pure winning side. Vijay would either play too slow or get out quickly, Dhawan and Rahane can build he innings at a steady run-rate.

  • GRVJPR on May 29, 2013, 8:42 GMT

    @tony_joe Green Top, Catches in Slip ----------- Keep Dreaming, It doesn't happen. Indian batsmen and even bowlers like Ajit Agarkar and kuble have centuries in england. All media hype about pitches. Flat Flat pitches in england.

  • Naked_Cricket on May 29, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    As far i can as i can see, Rohit an Raina will definitely fail as usually in bouncy wickets ( last Australian tour is the example ). Adding Jadeja is real waste. SA's and PAK's will definitely kill the ball with Jadeja and Ashwin. Bhaji is goo team payer than Ashwin. Those two players seem come to the Team with help of Dhoni. This new rule seems to be targeted sub continent players,its not a problem only to Dhoni.

  • brusselslion on May 29, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    @Harmony111 & @ToTellUTheTruth: Are you guys seriously inferring that you wouldn't change places with an IPL cricketer/ EPL footballer given half a chance? (If only I was 25 years younger and had the footballing/ cricketing talent!). Sure the likes of Dhoni, Rooney, etc have their every move closely scrutinised, but look at the compensation: I'm pretty sure that the superstars from a previous era e.g. Gavaskar, Shearer are fairly happy with their lot.

    As for the more run-of-the-mill players, well, I'll take $0.5 - $1m per year for a couple of seasons, thanks very much. I reckon that might give me a few options in later life.

  • BDforever on May 29, 2013, 8:32 GMT

    Pakistan beat India few months ago even when they played on Indian friendly flat track conditions in India. How can someone expect to see India beating Pakistan in England? Results are obvious. India will get another knockout as how they were kicked out from Asia cup last year by Tigers.

  • deep6321 on May 29, 2013, 8:29 GMT

    As I have already posted that India has no chance to win this champions trophy. But what they can take good out of this champions trophy is that after this trophy ,selectors will be sure that Vijay ,Vinay are of no use.So India will be safe in ODI cricket for the years to come.

  • GRVJPR on May 29, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    @ Kashi0127 No one is going Gaga over IPL performances, OK. There is a reason why India is ranked number 1 ODI team by ICC and current world chapions. Between , even to score in IPL, you need talent. Mind you that people are going gaga over chris gail, Sunil Narine etc on the same IPL performances. So, please apply same yardstics across the teams. India will definitely make it to finals, they are the most consistent side in ODI cricket in last 3 years.

  • GRVJPR on May 29, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    No 1 ODI Team will win champions trophy and not any other mediocre team. The No 1 ODI team currently is INDIA and any other team will need huge stroke of luck and bad luck to India to win the trophy. India is the only team that deserve to win this title. Sri lanka, Pakistan etc may win one or two games with their bowlers with funny ( not so clean) bowling actions.

  • mughal29173 on May 29, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    tough time coming after IPL. T20 in subcontinent is a different ball game. No seam no swing. Test for India, Pak and SL

  • brusselslion on May 29, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    Reading some of these comments, I'm beginning to think that India's 2011 tour of England either didn't take place or that, there are alternative realities where England were steamrolled in both the Test and ODI series.

    Anyway, so far as this up-and-coming money making exercise is concerned, I'm afraid that India don't have a chance. Nothing to do with playing ability, simply that @gsingh7 has tipped India to win the tournament: We all know that can only mean one thing - Group stage exit, I'm afraid!

  • tony_joe on May 29, 2013, 8:01 GMT

    The green top with moisture would induce lots of edges. So, the requirement is two-folded ,(i) good length and line pace-bowling on the corridor of uncertainity and quick reflexes in the slip cordon (ii) very careful shot selection and negating the effect of swing by playing late and feet movement. So, Shikar and Vijay has tough challenge of seeing the swing off with scoreboard ticking, this is the chance of their life in ODI , on the other hand Ishant has another chance i resurrect his sliding career by leading the pack and Bhuvneshwar has his golden chance to prove his swing capabilities which Umesh would be expected to be hostile with movement. All in all , a great chance for India to redeem their image in England after the last drubbing they got there.

  • deep6321 on May 29, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    For GOD sake do not give vijay and vinay any chance to play.I wonder what impressed selectors about him that they selected him ahead of gambir and rahane. I dont even understand that karthik is given preferrence over gambhir and rahane. Same is the case with Viany. They could have gone with parveen kumar instead. Dhoni can expect Kohli and Bhuvneshwar to be consistent,but rest are just hopeless. I dont think india have any chance with this squad.

  • Kashi0127 on May 29, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    All the folks who were gaga over IPL performances will now get to see real test of character and talent. IPL tamasha was made up to entertain people and quality of bowling was deliberately kept mediocre even if we saw big names. Playing IPL is like playing in older times benefit matches or the film stars cricket matches. I predict India to get a royal drubbing in the Champions Trophy.

  • Un_Citoyen_Indien on May 29, 2013, 7:56 GMT

    @ Aaqib Ali Aamer: Well said mate. May an Asian team win the Champion's Trophy this year. Good luck to Pakistan and to Sri Lanka as well.

  • mrgupta on May 29, 2013, 7:53 GMT

    I feel sad in saying this but India is not a candidate for winning the Champions trophy. We probably have the weakest bowling in the tournament and also unproved, unsettled opening combination. Even if batsmen score in excess of 300 i don't see our bowlers defending that. Umesh is good but not world class, neither is Ishant. Ashwin is good in India but i feel he is not that good outside. Overall a lot depends on Dhoni's power hitting and hope for a miracle.

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    I am noting this only now why in the world don't we have Rahane in the tour party.All openers are untested and we should havebacked this supremely talented ypungster who was impressive in the last ODI series against England IN England.He seemed to deal the short ball which was and will be the nemesis of most Indian batsmen.read;Vijay,Raina,Kartik etc...ridiculous to leave him out for Murali Vijay who is un-tested both in ODis and in England.

  • MAK123 on May 29, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    Both India and Pakistan will bite the dust. For them and their fans, the only thing to look foward to should be the match between the two teams.

  • on May 29, 2013, 7:49 GMT

    1.dhawan 2.karthick( as opened batting in 2007 in england) 3.kholi 4.rohit 5.raina 6.dhoni 7.jadeja 8.irfan 9.bhuvanesh 10.aswin(surely he will perform and will be replaced by mishra) 11.yadav if one more bowler needed jadeja will be replaced by ishant

  • andrew27994 on May 29, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    I don't understand why people just blindly criticise Dhoni all the time. He just said that the change in rules will be a challenge for the team. He's not making excuses for the team. I'm sure all the teams would find it a challenge after all. During the Indo-Pak series in India earlier this year, both captains found difficulty adjusting to the new rules initially. When Dhoni is asked such questions about the Champions Trophy you can't expect him to say nothing about it, right ? He said the whole team is fit and ready and that's what really matters.

  • Lets_talk_straight on May 29, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    Without Yuvraj, India hardly wins any major tournament. No matter how much pathetic he was in IPL, but on big stages, he is the best ODI cricketer India has ever had. So, i am not counting much on India without Yuvi.

  • Anwaruzz on May 29, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    How about adding the following rules in all forms of cricket ??

    a) Cancellation of LEG BYE. A batsman being beaten by a delivery and it hits a part of his body, his team should not rewarded with any run scored thereof.

    b) The third umpire together with match referee should look into the replays of all the contentious decisions of match just concluded. If they find a batsman has been given out wrongfully then they should record as, a) GIVEN OUT instead of Caught or Bowled or Run out or Stumped etc., b) Batsman average should not suffer for such dismissal, c) The Bowler or the Fielder should not be credited with the dismissal.

    This will leave a clearer record of actual happening if someone reads the very old scorecard. Many a career has been lost for wrong umpire decision

  • Sandeep.M.J.D on May 29, 2013, 7:20 GMT

    Mr Dhoni, if you have said "The performance of the ODI squad was good, if you don't see just the results.", can you kindly suggest why on this earth people need to follow cricket if they can't expect just the results? Not even a bookie orfixer will accept this theory to do their business as you are very well aware of.

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 29, 2013, 6:51 GMT

    @satanswish ; You are the only one outta this bunch who noticed that. I made a comment about it, but didn't get posted. Dhoni has already started to make usual excuses even before the show begins. lol. New rule, rain, wet ball, losing the toss, wet out field.. blah blah..Why can't he admit that India got whitewashed fair n square ?? Don't worry, we will get to listen to a plenty of excuses after India get kicked outta the tournament.

  • Jinasoma on May 29, 2013, 6:47 GMT

    @Jadejafan-SL cricketers aren't ipl heroes.But they are good enough at out of the sub continent.

  • on May 29, 2013, 6:46 GMT

    I believe the show Indian batsmen presented infront of young Pakistani seemers was not so encouraging for them and they have to forget the memories very soon because English conditions will test the caliber of all the Asian batsmen and India unfortunately has a very mediocre bowling attack with ASHWIN the real champion who can also be maneuvered on these kind of pitches.

    India if bat first will have to think about in excess of 280 every time and ..while bowling first they will have to try to restrict others under 300...

    Simple Policy for Dhoni is...POWER PACK batting...forget about bowling...keep mandate within sharp feilding and agressive batting to win the games...This will be vice versa for team Pakistan and for Srilanka, team combo matters the most

    MAY AN ASIAN TEAM LIFT THE CHAMPIONS TROPHY to end up this tournament on ASIAN GLORY

  • SadhaP on May 29, 2013, 6:40 GMT

    Except the opening pair (which is not tested yet) everything seems to be well placed for India My options for the playing XI: 1. Murali 2. Dhawan 3. Virat 4. Rohit 5. Raina 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja 8. Irfan 9. Ashiwn/Misra 10. Ishant 11. Bhuwaneshwar Kumar

    Batting Strategy: Opening pair to stay in P1, Virat and Rohit to take till 30th, Raina and Dhoni to score in P3, Jadeja and Irfan to complete in the Last 5 overs (Along with one set batsman)

    Bowling Strategy:

    Kumar and Ishant in P1. Pathan and spinner 3rd and 4th bowler P3: Shared by Fast bowlers 5th Bowler option: Jadeja & Raina/ Rohit

  • on May 29, 2013, 6:35 GMT

    Just joking... Team composition.. CSK players will fill 5(five) slots first, because they are most loyal to Dhoni n Srini... then balance six will be from different sources and they have to be loyal first.. otherwise you guess!!!!!

    It's a good team but do we have right bowlers?? Will have to wait and see....

  • on May 29, 2013, 6:33 GMT

    Murali Vijay is not a very good ODI player in my opinion. He is sluggish from the start.

    My XI would be 1. Dhawan 2. Rohit Sharma 3. Kohli 4. Karthik 5. Raina 6. Dhoni 7.Jadeja 8. Irfan Pathan/Vinay Kumar 9. Ashwin 10. yadav 11. Ishant

  • rashivkd on May 29, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    If India going with Jadeja at 7, it will be very difficult to bowl 20 overs from spinners in England conditions, especially with new rules. And there are no more bowlers who can bowl 2-4 overs to make up. So my option is, Karthik have to open and keep the wicket so Dhoni can roll his arms 3-4 overs if required.

    My eleven is 1. D Karthik (W), 2. Dhawan/Vijay, 3. Kohli, 4. Rohit, 5.Raina 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin 9. Bhuvi 10. Ishant 11. Umesh yadav.

  • GRVJPR on May 29, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    Excellent team selection. Everyone deserve their place in team. People are going gaga over conditions in england, but I can tell you they are some of the most flat wickets. Even Ajit Agarkar and Anil kumble have scored centuries there. Amit Mishra scored a highest score of 86 in england. Last time parthiv and rahane hammered english attack (although India lost). Pitches don't spin, they swing only when there is a bit of cloud. Overall overrated wickets and some of the most flat and boring ones. Even dale steyn struggled whole day in last test series to pick up a single wickets. As always people will say bad things about young indian team but youngster will prove everyone wrong as always and all these people will be hiding somewhere.

  • on May 29, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    Indian bowlers nowhere near to Australians. It is almost impossible them to win the title even India might not able to reach semis by facing SA(Steyn, Morkel, Totsobe), PK(Junaid Khan, Saeed Ajmal) and WI(Rampaul, Narine). Australia will win because they have best fast bowlers suitable for conditions (Starc, MCcay, Johnson, Faulkner).

  • FAB_ALI on May 29, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    @vrn59...Harbhajan might come back in the Indian team but his performances will be the same as has been over the past 2-3 years. Same goes for other young MI players, they are just good at the IPL not at International Level. Look at Rohit Sharma & Dinesh Karthik, how this guys play in the IPL and when they are given a chance in the Indian team, they are a big failure. You will also get to see that in the Champions trophy, whenever they are given a chance to play. Rayudu also looks promising but selectors know whats his real worth and thus not selected him in the Indian team till date.

  • mohanjeeves on May 29, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    Surprised to see Rohits name not being considered for the openers slot. He did a pretty good job at the top in the ODI's against England. Shikar and Rohit will make an ideal opening combination with both being in prime form coming out of the IPL.Dhoni will do well to test the combination in the practise matches leading upto the champions trophy.

  • FAB_ALI on May 29, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    If you look at that England series, India had continuously scored over 250 runs but the second innings was always affected by rain and England got the benefit of playing 30-40 overs with ten wickets in hand and 6-7 runs per over to chase. They were able to play a 20-20 kind of game and thus, India could not defend their totals. Knowing the conditions, Cook put India in to bat all the time and got benefit from the rain. India's batting will fire, there's no doubt about it but its the bowlers who will need to step up if India has to reach the finals.

  • praneethtz on May 29, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    it is a gud side bt i felt gauti shld have been in the side so that his experience in that conditions is helpfull.. and the new rules especially 2 new balls and not more than 4 ourside will have huge impact on the game..

  • latecut_04 on May 29, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    Indian fans must take a realistic assessment (for a change)and understand India would do well to reach the semifinals.One reason for cricketers becoming 'stars' overnight and many other things later on is the hype and unrealistic expectation by the fans which to an extent is fueled by the media(main culprits are the sponsors.)Eng,NZ,Aus and SA should complete the final 4 and probably Aus or Eng will lift the trophy.(gauging by pre tournament strength on paper).In our favor we are in the easier group.if we manage to beat WI and Pak we can qualify for semis.GroupA is really group of death where virtually all teams are favorites.We are a heavily batting dependant side and June conditions in Eng do not favor batting much and call for batting depth,attacking,swinging and variable bowling and razor sharp fielding which we just do not possess right now.Hopefully we find the nucleus for 2015 WC to be held down under.Peace.

  • on May 29, 2013, 5:45 GMT

    i am surprised to see M vijay in team very bad domestic performance and Poor IPL season as well. U should be favourite of Dhoni is the only criteria for him to be selected. He might play one good inning in full series and get place for next series.

  • on May 29, 2013, 5:41 GMT

    Its not a best side. Dhoni is in Good form, Kholi is in good form rest i would say they have to make them promising in the England conditions and do their best. We want a good cricket from you all not like falling bridge. All the best indian team.

  • on May 29, 2013, 5:28 GMT

    all the best.. i'm very excited to see Men in Blue after a long way ..... Sure MSD wil win.. we have gr8 players.... lets begin the tropy tour...

  • Raj.cool.Himanshu on May 29, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    I think dhoni have to open with murali vijay and shikhar dhawan. there is another batsman who can open he is dinesh karthik but murali and dhawan are regular opener in all formats whereas dinesh plays at no.3 in ipl 20-20. so, he can play at no 4 because kohli plays fan tastic at no 3. So i think indian team will look like this -

    1. murali 2. dhawan 3. kohli 4. dinesh karthik 5. raina 6. dhoni 7. jadeja / mishra 8. irfan pathan 9. ashwin 10. umesh yadav 11. ishant sharma

  • on May 29, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    This is about rules ....well I personally feel ICC is determined to make it Batsman Game, while hitting the ball out of the park is interesting, and eye candy a true contest is required to breed anyone to become a bowler, right now if you say you are a bowler, its almost a shame, how long do you think this policy is sustainable, bowlers are already weakened because of injury issues more and also with the tighter wides in the limited overs game, why dont we say, we will remove the bowlers, and use bowling machines instead?

  • on May 29, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    Posted by Vamsi Mohan Kavuri VM on (May 28, 2013, 21:41 GMT) - Featured comment All I can say to M S Dhoni right now is all the best. Team looks promising but a full squad without bowling experience is always risk in England. Zaheer Khan should have been in the squad but it looks like he is not looking fit again for that reason he might have been dropped. Well Sehwag and Gambhir were awful with bat but anyone should have been picked and seen if they have failed in this tournament they should be dropped in the next series. Shikar Dhawan and Vijay's performance in tests is different and in India. With that performance one cannot judge them. This is ICC Champions Trophy and not an ordinary series to do experiments. Anyhow Dhoni is always had luck with young team. Hope they do some wonders this time. Let us see.

  • hotcric01 on May 29, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    Both openers are inexperienced.At least they should have picked Gambhir.He is a fine ODI batsman.India have lost Zaheer's experiences also.Irfan should lead the bowling attack.Dhoni is a fine ODI batsman anywhere in the world.Others should support him.But for now,SA and WI are favorites in this group.Eng and Aus/SL are favorite in other group.

  • satanswish on May 29, 2013, 5:05 GMT

    Well....excuses for upcoming defeats have already begun...way to go MSD.

  • Humdingers on May 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    hahahaha "The performance of the ODI squad was good, if you don't see just the result"... how does this bloke get away with saying tripe like this every time?

  • on May 29, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    On current form I will take Amit Mishra as neither Ashwin nor Jadeja have inspired that level of confidence which Mishra has shown, still when it comes to finding the right balance, i would say playing Jadeja as the lone spinner and playing Ashwin, while playing Two spinners is prudent, That would help Dhoni play 3 genuine fast bowlers in Ishant, Umesh and Bhuvi. Also I think Karthik is much more suited to open than Vijay in the seam friendly conditions. Plus he will be a busy customer between the wickets which can help the team maintain a good run rate early on. So my ideal XI would be... 1. Karthik 2. Dhawan 3. Kohli 4. Rohit 5. Dhoni 6. Raina 7. Jadeja 8. Ashwin/Irfan/Vinay Kumar 9. Bhuvaneshwar 10. Ishant 11 Umesh

  • on May 29, 2013, 4:44 GMT

    it is not good side for ICC champion trophy , because it big tournament it is not ordinary series ,well ZAHEER KHAN, Sehwag and Gambhir are the player who can do some thing for india any time they are experience player, i believe on this young player can't perform on England pitches it is so fast pitches and has swing as well , hope for best performance of team India ,

    ESMAT KHAN, FROM AFGHANISTAN

  • on May 29, 2013, 4:00 GMT

    Adjusting to new rules are not of great deal but WIN depends upon the type of game that team members play.................so Dhoni must not worry much coz Indian team is too strong

  • RyanHarrisGreatCricketer on May 29, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    out of selected contingent dis is the best possible playing XI assuming normal english conditions(ie neither too much seaming or too spinner friendly)

    Rohit Sharma , Shikhar Dhawan , Virat Kohli , MS Dhoni , Dinesh Karthik , Suresh Raina , Irfan Pathan , R Ashwin , Amit Mishra , Bhuvi Kumar , Umesh Yadav

    and all doubters Irfan is most certainly good enough @ no 7 given that he has a test century and the way he played against quick bowlers in cb series in australia in 2012.

    if conditions are highly seamer friendly , ishant sharma should replace R Ashwin , Mishra should continue to play because i like the opyion of a legspinner in odis.

    and in dusty pitches irfan should make way for jadeja umesh yadav should not be dropped because he gets fast reverse swing on such pitches and he has the x-factor.

  • satishchandar on May 29, 2013, 3:36 GMT

    Would go a step ahead and open with Rohit instead of Vijay.. Rohit, Dhawan, Virat, Dinesh, MSD, Raina, Jadeja, Irfan and three out of Ashwin/Bhuvi/Umesh/Vinay.. Vinay showed decent form in IPL in end overs and he can swing the ball too.. He would certainly be playing 11.. I am missing Yuvi here as the spinner.. Had Yuvi played, we might have well gone with 4 seamers and Ashwin which would have been better for these conditions..

  • TheBigBoodha on May 29, 2013, 3:16 GMT

    I'll be surprised if India do any good. Their pace attack is lame, their spinners ordinary as soon as you get them off a hometown dustbowl, and their batsmen can't handle pace or seam. Dhoni won't score any runs. He can't pressure the curators to produce the tracks he needs outside India, and they won't get hometown umpiring favours. Dhoni's batting record is so poor outside India because his technique is completely useless where there is pace or movement off the seam. He lunges forward then whips his wrists through at the last second - great when the ball dies on impact with the surface and never bounces over hip high - useless everywhere else.

  • Narbavi on May 29, 2013, 3:12 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: lol, Australia are the favourites for this tournament and you don't give them a chance to even make it to the semis? and as if srilanka has a great overseas record, its much poorer compared to india

  • Dhutugemunu on May 29, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    It doesn't matter the current rankings. From Group A, #2 Eng will have a chance to move forward, since it's their own condition (especially early summer). For the second spot from that group their will be a tough fight between #3 Aus and #5 SL (52:48). Unless #8 NZ do some extraordinary stuff, they have no chance. Group B #4 SA are clear favorites (in seaming conditions). #1 Ind might be the other contender for the 2nd spot marginally ahead of #6 Pak (55:45). #7 WI could be the dark horse.

  • BDforever on May 29, 2013, 2:33 GMT

    India's strength is home flat tracks. They are going to badly miss them this time. Unless there would be some coincidences India have no chance to get in to semis. Group A semifinalists - Pakistan & South Africa ,Group B semi finalists - Australia & Sri Lanka. Final - Pakistan vs SL, Champions - Pakistan. Pakistan Zindabad...............

  • on May 29, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    there is little chance India are going to do anything worthwhile. Dhawan, Rohit, Kohli, Raina, Dinesh,MS, Irfan, Ashwin, BK, Umesh & Ishant. or maybe vijay will open with rohit replacing Dinesh at 5. Really...does that look like its going to win?

  • wrenx on May 29, 2013, 1:56 GMT

    India had a horror last visit to England, but those who saw the ODI games will remember that Dhoni and Co played very well in the limited overs matches. More often than not, it was the rain breaks and Duckworth-Lewis that conspired to give England easy targets. This time, I'm sure India will got a winning streak, an wouldn't be surprised if they made it to the final

  • on May 29, 2013, 1:53 GMT

    You are kidding me Fletcher, if u say Vijay is consistent and has been in form. I would give a chance to Karthik first up as an opener alongside Dhawan. My team would be Dhawan,Karthik,Kohli,Rohit,Raina,Dhoni,Jadeja,Irfan Pathan,Ashwin,Bhuvaneshwar Kumar and Umesh Yadav. I do not see Vijay adapting to swinging conditions for sure and I still do not feel he actually deserves a place in the side ahead of Rahane.

  • Kashi0127 on May 29, 2013, 1:18 GMT

    As the article says India have lost anything played after IPL. That is but to be expected. Players these days play for just money , not country

  • Shan_Oz on May 29, 2013, 1:15 GMT

    The squad will struggle, with the likes of Raina, Vijay and Jadeja unable to play short and/or fast bowling the batting will be brutually exposed. Jadeja has to be the most overrated player in cricket history..million dollar FLOP LOL

  • on May 29, 2013, 1:10 GMT

    @Ramesh Clearly you don't understand Pakistan in the slightest We are consistent at only 2 things Good bowling, and inconsistency Oh and back in WC 2011 "Pakistan was supposed to beat NZ and lose to Aus and SL, the opposite happened"-Greg Chappel

  • DMJR on May 29, 2013, 1:06 GMT

    SL ENG RSA WI will make the seamis

    dont wory indian fans you cant

  • Lmaotsetung on May 29, 2013, 0:05 GMT

    I see MSD is already lining up his excuses before the tournament even starts.

  • mikaelnorm on May 29, 2013, 0:04 GMT

    Can't understand why Pujara isn't in the squad. This guy is one of the best Test players around at the minute. Give him an ODI or two.

  • couchpundit on May 28, 2013, 23:47 GMT

    @arunsmail4u - Only problem with Dhoniis captaincy is he is laid back and wait for stuff to happen in away Tests, ofcourse he can only do that much with kind of bowling strength india has...he would have done better if Praveen Kumar(perinially unfit guy on the first day of a seiries showed some spunk and fitness, and if sreesanth was in better shape and mindset).

    Hopefully bhuvaneshwar is used properly rather than using Ashwin who is next only to Kumble in Fielding skill. Raina will be bowled short pitch deliveries....only good thing is there wont be Sachin and out of touch sehwag and ever wanting to fight gauti

  • somethingdifferent on May 28, 2013, 23:47 GMT

    I think on present form SA is sure to qualify for the SF. WI despite being the T20 champs are the weakest link of the group. So in reality it all boils down to the group match between India and Pakistan. Who so ever plays better on that day will qualify for the SF. Although history of such tournaments favors India but on paper Pakistan looks to have slight advantage due to the new Indian opening pair and Pakistan superior bowling. But it is too early to predict anything. Best wishes to all contestants, specially Pakistan.

  • Nampally on May 28, 2013, 23:41 GMT

    India's real problem is 5 bowlers bowling to their field with controlled length & direction. If they do, adapting to the new rules will become a Non-issue. The problem that India face will be more in the batting. Dhawan & Vijay need to give a good start followed by consistent middle order batting. The most reliable & consistent Indian batsman is Pujara - unfortunately omitted from the squad. This leaves a very unreliable & unproven batting under English conditions. Kohli, Raina, Rohit Sharma & Kartick are yet to show their consistency. So Dhoni's biggest problem is really batting. As for the bowling, Yadev, B.Kumar & Ishant or Pathen will carry the brunt of the bowling with may be solo spinner in Ashwin. Jadeja will compete for an all rounder spot with Pathan. India would have been much better off with 2 Sharma's - Mohit & Sandeep in the squad. Both are v. accurate - much needed Vs. England. Hopefully the wicket will be less green in mid June to make batting easier. Good Luck Guys.

  • on May 28, 2013, 23:33 GMT

    it is great chance for india to win the trophy.all the best indian team

  • on May 28, 2013, 23:28 GMT

    @Jadejafan : What about the rest of the teams mate? aren't they good enough too? England, Aus, SA?

  • IPLSTARS on May 28, 2013, 23:02 GMT

    India will as favorites to reach the final of the champions trophy hugely because of the presence of young players and captain cool dhoni!!! India's fielding is going to be the major advantage going into the series and its the first time i see a good fielding unit so far in the history of Indian cricket.

    My Playing XI would be: Dhawan, Vijay, Raina, Kohli, Rohit, Dhoni, Jadeja, Irfan, Bhuvi, Ishant, Yadav

    I predict India Vs Pakistan Final... Go India Go !!!

  • noitsnothim_itsme on May 28, 2013, 22:54 GMT

    @Mohammed Asif - Two off spinners for England is going to be a waste and only one will be used at any time. What I see is Bajji is a bit of blown fuse, whilst Ashwin is leadership material with his onfield behaviour and the ability to talk well in public. Sometime these thing pushes one on top of another!

  • Jimi01 on May 28, 2013, 22:43 GMT

    I dont know why Indian fans are getting hopeful for ever trophy/tournament, when they end up getting knocked out straight after. I predict India will get pummelled by SA & PAK. As India cannot play outside India and on grass tracks. @Jadejafan, not sure why youre saying about Sri Lanka, Sri Lankas population is 19million while India's is 1.3 Billion, and India still cannot play professional cricket.

    ENG, SA, SL, NZ will succeed.

    Thank you Cricinfo, time and time again for publishing my comments. Much Appreciated.

  • on May 28, 2013, 22:26 GMT

    @ramesh Paki team is always un predictable and as compared to India Pakistan is a much better side in english conditionz bcz India has a good batting line up but pakistani batting line up is not that bad as compared to Indian batting line up as the Indian bowling Is, compared to the bowling attack as we made it clear ealrier in january in front of ur crowd,at ur place and the pitches made by U.

  • gsingh7 on May 28, 2013, 22:20 GMT

    india will win this tournament. top form all of them indian players and new found pace attack of bhuvi and yadav will deliver on big stage. any target between 0 and 450 is chaseable by strong indian lineup, dhoni will add another feather to his overloaded cap. by the way , who is number 1 in odi's and world champions??

  • ro.s on May 28, 2013, 22:10 GMT

    My eleven - Dhawan, Rohit/Vijay, Kohli, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Pathan, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Ishant, Yadav

  • on May 28, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    i agree with you Arunsmail4u

  • Harmony111 on May 28, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    @ToTellUTheTruth: Yes. It means they have it even tougher than us. We can always change our org if we don't like the environment or have a problem with the boss. We can always go for higher studies and get back with an better degree, we can be sure that at most we would be fired for being incompetent or in the times of recession for being surplus, no one would fire us for being 'too' old. But these guys have no such flexibilities. They have around 12-15 yrs at most and when most of them retire at the age of 35-37 which is really a very young age from our PoV then they find they have no other major skills. Many of them are college dropouts. Sachin himself never studied beyond 12th (I think).

    Yeah they earn millions and millions while most of us would be lucky to earn a million USD in our entire career but then we are not under scrutiny of unknown and always know who the stakeholders are and how to answer them. Anyone remembers Star News' "Match Ke Mujarim"?

  • on May 28, 2013, 20:59 GMT

    @Baseball-Sucks: hi my friend how do you give a chance to Pak to reach semifinal?do followed irland vs pak matches?they are not even blow par performance then irland dn talking about india?

  • on May 28, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    What i feel is Bhajji will be the ideal spinner then Ashwin. If Dhoni need Ashwin then drop Jadeja and vijay and include bhajji as we all know Ashwin is a capable batsman. Team : Dhawan,Karthik,Virat,Rohit,Dhoni,Raina,Irfan Pathan,Bhajji,Bhuwaneshwar Kumar,Ishanth,Amit Mishra/Umesh.

  • ToTellUTheTruth on May 28, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    @ Harmony111...the only difference is, in your day to day job, you get to work till your retirement (58+). But with these guys, their earning life is over after 15+ (and that too for prodigies). So, they will work Friday/Saturday/Sunday and then go to Singapore on Monday to do the 6 hour spiel. None of these guys can confidently say they have a future post cricket. Hence the urgency and the schedule. So, they better make their retirements by the time they turn 30. Such short professional life and only the young can do that.

  • srini41 on May 28, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    The best team will be Dhawan,M.Vijay,Kartik,Kohli,Dhoni,Raina,Jadeja,Irfan,Ashwin,Bhuvi,Yadav(Ishant/ Misra/Rohit and Vinay- replacement players on need basis.)

  • on May 28, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    This Champions Trophy is going to be interesting. The only question regarding the Indian Team i feel is what wrong thing has Yuvraj Singh done that he is not going to England... He is the match winner and he has proved that time and again.. On the basis of IPL you can't leave the match winner like Yuvi out... History says that Yuvi has never set the stage on fire when it comes to IPL look at the cricinfo for 2009 T20 Championship only Yuvi was contributing even though he failed in IPL that year too,,,,,

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 28, 2013, 20:22 GMT

    Semifinalists will be : G1 - SL n ENG G2 - SA n PAK . So India don't stand a chance here. India's recent tours to England have been miserable. Given their vulnerability for short balls, only thing can be expected is the early exit from the tournament. G'luck !

  • on May 28, 2013, 20:19 GMT

    I hope they open with Karthik and Dhawan or Rohit and Dhawan. Not only they are the form players, Vijay's temperament in the shorter formats is questionable. He doesn't seem to have a midway between going berserk and dropping off the anchor. He was at his fluent best before the IPL started, as Sanjay Manjarekar once pointed out, with a fairly decent start to his career in the limited opportunities he then got. Now when he has somewhat got his touch back, He should've been limited to the longer formats for sometime, if India wants a long term opener in him. A disappointing IPL instils little confidence. Rest of the squad picks itself with Kohli, Raina, Rohit/Karthik, Dhoni, Jadeja/Irfan, Ashwin, Bhuvi, Yadav, Ishant to follow. Interesting to see if Mishra gets a chance given his form.

  • kc69 on May 28, 2013, 20:12 GMT

    Indian has a very good squad(barring Yuvi's absence) for this tournament,but unfortunately i know M S Dhoni will defintely play these players in playing 11 for sure-S Raina,R Ashwin,R Jadeja,M Vijay and Rohit Sharma.For those who are suggesting team combinations without above mentioned players there is no possibility.

  • arunsmail4u on May 28, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    The only point Dhoni haters had is that he is just leading a side Dada has formed. With all due respect Dada is a great captain and his findings in the form of yuvi, zaheer etc were great.. But to lead a team to victory is always gonna be tough. The kind of success Dhoni has now is just amazing, cant deny that. And most importantly he leads from the front too.. Neverthless this is completely a Dhoni team. Lets see what this team does in England. If they can do well, it will close all those mouths for sure. All the best Dhoni. I am big fan of yours. I am sure your name would come in the book of legends.. A true match winner, a true finisher.. Captain Cool!

  • Jadejafan on May 28, 2013, 19:35 GMT

    India will win. Teams like Sri Lanka are just not good enough. I just realised that the Indian Cricket team in this tournament is one of the youngest so its good to see. Who is world number 1 in one-day Cricket? :)

  • mohitaggarwal5 on May 28, 2013, 19:26 GMT

    India is surely isn't the favourites this time around. Moreover there is a lot of negative energy around the team post what all has happened. So, its tough for india. But India have to reunite again to improve the history of bad record of post IPL performance and Champions Trophy performance. The thing that can work in India's favour is the focus is not on them as they are not favourites. I think Rahane should have been given chance ahead of vijay, otherwise the selection is good. The playing eleven according to me should be: S. Dhawan, D. Karthik, Kohli, MS Dhoni, R. Sharma, Raina, I Pathan, R Ashwin, B Kumar, V Kumar and U Yadav. The batting order should be the same as well. This is the most balanced team. The possible change can be vijay and karthik if either of them fails. India has to bank on negotiating the new ball, playing traditional type of cricket. If the openers play for 10-15 ovs without giving their wickets away the middle order will make merry. Best of luck TEAM INDIA.

  • Harmony111 on May 28, 2013, 19:24 GMT

    Howsoever one may play the "Being Professional" card, one ought to feel a bit sorry for Indian players here. They have just finished a high octane, energy sapping tournament in Indian Summer where they spend more time in hotel elevators and airports' lounges than in the ground and within days of it they now have to travel half a world away to Cold England to play a highly prized (but poorly marketed) tournament.

    This is the equivalent of asking one of us to first work for Friday/Saturday and Sunday in Bengaluru and then to fly to Singapore on Monday to make pitch for a Rs 50 Crore project failing where the mgt would castigate us publicly. How many of us would be able to handle that sort of tension/fatigue and potential humiliation? How many of us would agree to it on being told that we are professionals and are anyways being paid for all the travel and hotel stay and that we just have to make a 30 min pitch?

    How does MSD manage it? My god !!!

  • on May 28, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    good luck to ms dhoni and his men for champions trophy...hope u return to india as champions ka champion......

  • Baseball-Sucks on May 28, 2013, 19:07 GMT

    Semifinalists will be : G1 - SL n ENG G2 - SA n PAK . So India don't stand a chance here. India's recent tours to England have been miserable. Given their vulnerability for short balls, only thing can be expected is the early exit from the tournament. G'luck !

  • ProdigyA on May 28, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    At the toss of the IPL final against MI, Dhoni said that IPL was a long tournament with a lot of travel which is very taxing. Now he says that all players are fresh and fit. Historically, we know India have not done well immedietly after IPL then why schedule matches without any break at all. Not too optimistic but hope you do well MS. We should take note that almost all major players from all countries were part of IPL too, so if they can perform with motivation then we should too. Good Luck to Team India.

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    Too much advantages for batsmen. When I was a kid and often struggled to hit the ball, the elder players encouraged my batting by letting the bowl reach the boundary intentionally. ICC is transforming the Batsmen into kids. Why don't they restrict the batsmen to hit a boundary during a certain period of the innings? ICC should at least try to reduce the huge discrimination between a bowler and a batsman.

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:50 GMT

    interesting factor is only 4 men outside 30 yards circle. this asks for speed and young out fields. no room for errors and nicks/edges becoming more a batting oriented sport. one dimensional.

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:46 GMT

    keep coming back to the game i love in-spite of all the controversies, go go go team india, keep fighting

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    My team 1.Shikhar dhawan 2. Dinesh karthk 3.Kohli 4. Rohit 5.Raina 6. Dhoni 7. Jadeja 8.Ashwin 9.mishra/ishant/yadav/vinay kumar 10.Irfan pathan 11. Bhuvneshwar kumar. India should shuffle only with players like rohit/yadav/vinay & Mishra rest should play all the games to keep the balance

  • DishaSaxena on May 28, 2013, 18:40 GMT

    Dhawan, Rohit, Kohali, Raina, Dhoni, Jadeja, Irfan, Mishra, Ishant, Bhuvi, Yadav

  • andrew27994 on May 28, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    India arguably have one of the most balanced sides in this tournament if not the most balanced. Inspite of Vijay's failures I still think he might come good in this tournament. Perhaps a good tournament like this might bring the best of him. We have a decent pace attack of Pathan, B.Kumar and Yadav. Only person in the team who I'm really worried about is Ashwin. I find it very annoying when he tries to experiment different bowling actions. If he wants to experiment, then let him try it in the nets and in the warm-up matches and unless he is effective enough with that ball he shouldn't bowl it. Our middle order batsmen have done well in England last time in 2011 so hopefully they will continue their success.

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    This inform IPL squad looks more trouble but one can't drop these inform players. Opening combination gonna be duff for India in CT, as Vijay was picked ahead of Rahena with scoring some big runs in Test Serious against ozz but you can't blame selectors as they given full Eng ODI serious chance to Rahena & GG but they failed, and Yuvi wasn't look like playing ODI's. This squad has potential players but looking at their chances like Rohit who performs well in all domestic tournament but he fails to perform in international level followed by DK who also went through duff timing during his international career. Vijay was picked but didn't score much runs in IPL and Dhawan who doesn't have much international experience may not be perfect Opening pair. MSD has really to think out of pox to get runs and win the tournament. With New ODI rules in place and with Weak seam bowling attack this serious gonna be duff tournament in MSD's career. Raina, Virat and Dhoni has to perform well!!

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:33 GMT

    Its looking tough for India this time around , its always been tough for them outside subcontienent , and the way they have been thrashed by Pak & Eng recently plus the IPL controversy , it looks like India will have a tough time

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:23 GMT

    Dhawan, Karthik, Kohli, Rohit, MSD, Raina, Jadeja/Ashwin, Irfan, Bhuvi, Umesh/Mishra, Ishant.

  • tanstell87 on May 28, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    hopefully Rahane will get selected over Vijay for the tri series in West Indies...also players like Jadeja should play only tests that too in India, otherwise he is useless with bat and ball in ODIs & T20s.

  • msdhoni123 on May 28, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    Rohit Dhawan would be a amazing combination as dhawan can play the role of Sehwag and attack while Rohit can anchor the innings like Gambhir did. But I got a good feeling if Vijay gets a chance hes going to prove everybody wrong like he did in Australian Series. As for bowling Kumar Yadav Ishant Pathan and Mishra/ashwin. But kumar and pathan will be lethan with the new ball. And if Yadav and Ishant can constantly keep hitting the 140's mark we got a good chance to win this cup. Team should be Vijay/ Rohit, Dhawan,Kohli, Rohit(if vijay is opening), Raina Dhoni Pathan Kumar Ashwin/Mishra Ishant Yadav. This team will be imposing a major threat to other teams but only if they can live up to there hype. But being an Indian Fan Im expecting a disappointment.

  • tanstell87 on May 28, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    Indian team should be - 1.Dhawan 2.Karthik 3.Kohli 4.Rohit 5.Raina 6.Dhoni 7.Irfan 8.Mishra 9.Bhuvneshwar 10.Vinay 11.Yadav

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    best of luck dhoni..we are with you....

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    The new look side has some positives, and it is minus the weight of big names. Exciting times in Indian Cricket. I hope Shikhar Dhawan does justice to his talent up top, and Rohit FINALLY proves his worth to selectors for their immense faith in him. More than anything else - we have moved on from the promise that Sehwag and Gambhir were in the past 2 years. Thank you!

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    Being positive is a good sign.Our players are not even god in home conditions against England. The tour will help only to weedout unwanted players.

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    india sqaud is good but not enough to win champion trophy and there is no zaheer and yousaf phatan

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    I m really sorry to say that but results ain't gonna come good for India. Murli vijay?????? Really......!!!! Y ? He ain't played gud in IPL (Indian pitch)... I don't know whether he gonna get double figure or not in single match.....

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    Best wishes to the dhoni's men!!

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    for heavens sake pls dont open with vijay donno y he is in the team instead of rahane.. just let rohit open with dhawan ..hopefully he can prove his worth after chances upon chances if not then just ban this fella from playing for india .. rohit dhawan kohli raina dhoni jadeja/karthik irfan ashwin bhuvi umesh ishanth except for kohli dhoni bhuvi i hav no hopes from any other player from this particular squad hope they prove me wrong

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Best of luck MS All the Best in Champions Trophy 2013

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Best of luck MS All the Best in Champions Trophy 2013

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:48 GMT

    for heavens sake pls dont open with vijay donno y he is in the team instead of rahane.. just let rohit open with dhawan ..hopefully he can prove his worth after chances upon chances if not then just ban this fella from playing for india .. rohit dhawan kohli raina dhoni jadeja/karthik irfan ashwin bhuvi umesh ishanth except for kohli dhoni bhuvi i hav no hopes from any other player from this particular squad hope they prove me wrong

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    Best wishes to the dhoni's men!!

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    I m really sorry to say that but results ain't gonna come good for India. Murli vijay?????? Really......!!!! Y ? He ain't played gud in IPL (Indian pitch)... I don't know whether he gonna get double figure or not in single match.....

  • on May 28, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    india sqaud is good but not enough to win champion trophy and there is no zaheer and yousaf phatan

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:06 GMT

    Being positive is a good sign.Our players are not even god in home conditions against England. The tour will help only to weedout unwanted players.

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    The new look side has some positives, and it is minus the weight of big names. Exciting times in Indian Cricket. I hope Shikhar Dhawan does justice to his talent up top, and Rohit FINALLY proves his worth to selectors for their immense faith in him. More than anything else - we have moved on from the promise that Sehwag and Gambhir were in the past 2 years. Thank you!

  • on May 28, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    best of luck dhoni..we are with you....

  • tanstell87 on May 28, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    Indian team should be - 1.Dhawan 2.Karthik 3.Kohli 4.Rohit 5.Raina 6.Dhoni 7.Irfan 8.Mishra 9.Bhuvneshwar 10.Vinay 11.Yadav

  • msdhoni123 on May 28, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    Rohit Dhawan would be a amazing combination as dhawan can play the role of Sehwag and attack while Rohit can anchor the innings like Gambhir did. But I got a good feeling if Vijay gets a chance hes going to prove everybody wrong like he did in Australian Series. As for bowling Kumar Yadav Ishant Pathan and Mishra/ashwin. But kumar and pathan will be lethan with the new ball. And if Yadav and Ishant can constantly keep hitting the 140's mark we got a good chance to win this cup. Team should be Vijay/ Rohit, Dhawan,Kohli, Rohit(if vijay is opening), Raina Dhoni Pathan Kumar Ashwin/Mishra Ishant Yadav. This team will be imposing a major threat to other teams but only if they can live up to there hype. But being an Indian Fan Im expecting a disappointment.