Pakistan v West Indies, Champions Trophy, Group B, The Oval June 7, 2013

Misbah questions Ramdin spirit

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Pakistan captain Misbah-Ul-Haq took a harsh view of Denesh Ramdin's actions during the last ball of the ninth over at The Oval, labelling the wicketkeeper's ruse "not in the spirit of the game".

Misbah bottom-edged a Kemar Roach delivery to Ramdin, who initially seemed to have snaffled the chance, but lost control of the ball falling forward, and it slipped out of his gloves onto the turf. But instead of making his mistake obvious to the umpire or his team-mates, Ramdin simply picked up the ball and threw it in the direction of the square leg umpire, before joining his team-mates in the celebratory huddle.

Misbah turned to the dressing room, but square leg umpire Nigel Llong alerted the third umpire, and the replay revealed the chance had been dropped. The batsman, who had not scored at the time, went on to make 96 not out.

"What can I say about that?" Misbah said when asked about the catch after the match. "I think he should have told them what happened, but I don't know what he was thinking at that time. I would not be very happy if my wicketkeeper did that.

"If we don't know anything, then it's fine, but if you know clearly that it's not a catch, you should not claim that because it's not in the spirit of the game."

West Indies captain Dwayne Bravo vouched for and defended his wicketkeeper, whom he says, does not feel he acted dishonestly. According to MCC's Law 32, a batsman can only be caught if the fielder obtains complete control over the ball and his movement.

"Denesh honestly thought he had control of the ball," Bravo said. "By rights the umpire had another look and the replay showed he did not. So we don't play the game like that. History shows we've never had anything negative against us unlike other teams.

"Unfortunately, he did not catch it. He's a very honest player, and as I said, history shows if you check the records that we don't have any stigma or negatives around us as a team. We have been true in our cricket careers and history has shown that we play the game in true spirit of the way it should be played. I don't think we did something like this deliberately."

Roach said he had also thought it was a clean catch, but was philosophical about the lost chance, which would have given him his fourth wicket of the morning, and left the opposition 17 for 4.

"I thought he caught it. I really thought he caught it," Roach said. "But the square umpire thought differently. That's an issue for them to deal with, and we'll see what plays out from here. You make mistakes. No one goes to drop a catch, but it happens, so you just have to accept it and move on and be professional about it."

Andrew Fidel Fernando is ESPNcricinfo's Sri Lanka correspondent. He tweets here

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  • on June 11, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    This is an embrassing to the WI team and Caribbean people.Unacceptable!However,in the sprit of the game,the batsman should have walked given out by the umpire.Then what?The hasrsh punishment given.What constitute the sprit of the game and to what extent the code of ethics determine the sprit of the game.Michael Holding interpretation should be noted and especially "where this is heading"

  • on June 9, 2013, 21:48 GMT

    Ramdin did the wrong thing and is against the spirit of the cricket. Shameful. Don't know how bravo is defending him. I Thank Nigel Long for checking it otherwise Misbah would of been out for a duck rather than 96*

  • on June 9, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    I dont know many guys are supporting Ramdin. Don't just look at the dropped catch just go back to youtube watch the video and look only face of ramdin. He clearly know he has dropped it. His face was changed and his body movement became so weird. Trust me without seeing 2nd camera view I shouted he dropped it just look at his face.

  • on June 9, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    Well to be fair Bravo's statement itself is against the spirit of Cricket .... To present an excuse that an international Wicket keeper representing west indies for a no. of years had no knowledge of the rules and law is a lam e excuse itself .. Mr. Bravo you have belittled your self by presenting this excuse and recalling past history is not a evidence .. Ramdin has committed the act mischiefly and you should accept it and say sorry for it ....

  • delboy on June 8, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    @Ghulam Jaffer Bhutto batsmen, bowled caught etc, are entitled to stand their ground and await the umpires decision. If you know the rules the umpire must also adjudge the delivery is not a no ball before giving the batsman out.

  • on June 8, 2013, 22:23 GMT

    Pakistan wicket keeper Rashid Latif was suspended for five matches in 2004 for taking a false catch. I was expecting a similar penalty for Ramdin.

  • Harmony111 on June 8, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    I haven't seen the actual video but it seems that Ramdin did take the ball in his gloves (for a very short time) and then it popped out. The law is not clear about the duration of holding the ball for the catch to be deemed to be complete. Therefore, as per the law Ramdin was perfectly within his right to claim the catch. Whether the catch was complete or not is for the umpire to decide and no one should have a problem if they decided that Ramdin did not have full control over it. However, to say that Ramdin did not even have a right to claim it and was going against the spirit is ridiculous.

    In the CB Series, David Hussey was involved in a Obstructing The Field incident where HIS OWN PERCEPTION of Self-Preservation was given more weightage than the actual obstruction. In that Sydney 08 Test, Clarke's OWN PERCEPTION of having taken a catch got priority.

    Against this convention, Ramdin doesn't even have the right to claim a catch? What about Ponting's grassed catch appeal in Syd 08?

  • Harmony111 on June 8, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    I haven't seen the actual video but it seems that Ramdin did take the ball in his gloves (for a very short time) and then it popped out. The law is not clear about the duration of holding the ball for the catch to be deemed to be complete. Therefore, as per the law Ramdin was perfectly within his right to claim the catch. Whether the catch was complete or not is for the umpire to decide and no one should have a problem if they decided that Ramdin did not have full control over it. However, to say that Ramdin did not even have a right to claim it and was going against the spirit is ridiculous.

    In the CB Series, David Hussey was involved in a Obstructing The Field incident where HIS OWN PERCEPTION of Self-Preservation was given more weightage than the actual obstruction. In that Sydney 08 Test, Clarke's OWN PERCEPTION of having taken a catch got priority.

    Against this convention, Ramdin doesn't even have the right to claim a catch? What about Ponting's grassed catch appeal in Syd 08?

  • on June 8, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    I dont know if this is going to be published. But pakistan themselves had appealed so many times and have got controversial decisions in their favor. The spirit of game thing is so BS. Sometimes the keeper might not be sure whether he had taken a catch or if there was an edge. He wouldnt risk not appealing and costing his team an opportunity to take a wicket. An umpire can always refer to the third umpire if he has a doubt about the appeal.These kind of controversial appeals happened even in the late 90's. So move on with it... Also dont think it was sane on the part of bravo to be pointing other teams. Focus on the game.

  • on June 8, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    The truth is always offensive to some BUT IS NEVER A SIN. I support Bravo's comments 100%, and the fact is West Indies' record for fairness stands heads and shoulders above all other teams. The great Brian Lara has been wronged many times by umpires, perhaps more than any other player, and on each occasion he walked, even though he knew that the decision by the umpire was wrong. Because there is the perception that the Windies is no longer sitting at the top of world cricket, it is open season to take shots at the team.

  • on June 11, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    This is an embrassing to the WI team and Caribbean people.Unacceptable!However,in the sprit of the game,the batsman should have walked given out by the umpire.Then what?The hasrsh punishment given.What constitute the sprit of the game and to what extent the code of ethics determine the sprit of the game.Michael Holding interpretation should be noted and especially "where this is heading"

  • on June 9, 2013, 21:48 GMT

    Ramdin did the wrong thing and is against the spirit of the cricket. Shameful. Don't know how bravo is defending him. I Thank Nigel Long for checking it otherwise Misbah would of been out for a duck rather than 96*

  • on June 9, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    I dont know many guys are supporting Ramdin. Don't just look at the dropped catch just go back to youtube watch the video and look only face of ramdin. He clearly know he has dropped it. His face was changed and his body movement became so weird. Trust me without seeing 2nd camera view I shouted he dropped it just look at his face.

  • on June 9, 2013, 9:09 GMT

    Well to be fair Bravo's statement itself is against the spirit of Cricket .... To present an excuse that an international Wicket keeper representing west indies for a no. of years had no knowledge of the rules and law is a lam e excuse itself .. Mr. Bravo you have belittled your self by presenting this excuse and recalling past history is not a evidence .. Ramdin has committed the act mischiefly and you should accept it and say sorry for it ....

  • delboy on June 8, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    @Ghulam Jaffer Bhutto batsmen, bowled caught etc, are entitled to stand their ground and await the umpires decision. If you know the rules the umpire must also adjudge the delivery is not a no ball before giving the batsman out.

  • on June 8, 2013, 22:23 GMT

    Pakistan wicket keeper Rashid Latif was suspended for five matches in 2004 for taking a false catch. I was expecting a similar penalty for Ramdin.

  • Harmony111 on June 8, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    I haven't seen the actual video but it seems that Ramdin did take the ball in his gloves (for a very short time) and then it popped out. The law is not clear about the duration of holding the ball for the catch to be deemed to be complete. Therefore, as per the law Ramdin was perfectly within his right to claim the catch. Whether the catch was complete or not is for the umpire to decide and no one should have a problem if they decided that Ramdin did not have full control over it. However, to say that Ramdin did not even have a right to claim it and was going against the spirit is ridiculous.

    In the CB Series, David Hussey was involved in a Obstructing The Field incident where HIS OWN PERCEPTION of Self-Preservation was given more weightage than the actual obstruction. In that Sydney 08 Test, Clarke's OWN PERCEPTION of having taken a catch got priority.

    Against this convention, Ramdin doesn't even have the right to claim a catch? What about Ponting's grassed catch appeal in Syd 08?

  • Harmony111 on June 8, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    I haven't seen the actual video but it seems that Ramdin did take the ball in his gloves (for a very short time) and then it popped out. The law is not clear about the duration of holding the ball for the catch to be deemed to be complete. Therefore, as per the law Ramdin was perfectly within his right to claim the catch. Whether the catch was complete or not is for the umpire to decide and no one should have a problem if they decided that Ramdin did not have full control over it. However, to say that Ramdin did not even have a right to claim it and was going against the spirit is ridiculous.

    In the CB Series, David Hussey was involved in a Obstructing The Field incident where HIS OWN PERCEPTION of Self-Preservation was given more weightage than the actual obstruction. In that Sydney 08 Test, Clarke's OWN PERCEPTION of having taken a catch got priority.

    Against this convention, Ramdin doesn't even have the right to claim a catch? What about Ponting's grassed catch appeal in Syd 08?

  • on June 8, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    I dont know if this is going to be published. But pakistan themselves had appealed so many times and have got controversial decisions in their favor. The spirit of game thing is so BS. Sometimes the keeper might not be sure whether he had taken a catch or if there was an edge. He wouldnt risk not appealing and costing his team an opportunity to take a wicket. An umpire can always refer to the third umpire if he has a doubt about the appeal.These kind of controversial appeals happened even in the late 90's. So move on with it... Also dont think it was sane on the part of bravo to be pointing other teams. Focus on the game.

  • on June 8, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    The truth is always offensive to some BUT IS NEVER A SIN. I support Bravo's comments 100%, and the fact is West Indies' record for fairness stands heads and shoulders above all other teams. The great Brian Lara has been wronged many times by umpires, perhaps more than any other player, and on each occasion he walked, even though he knew that the decision by the umpire was wrong. Because there is the perception that the Windies is no longer sitting at the top of world cricket, it is open season to take shots at the team.

  • david44 on June 8, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    Nothing to take away from their victory but that History talk is some BS remember well in the early 80's the Windies could not handle the great Abdul Qadir and quite frankly there were some plumb LBW's which were not given it was like playing cricket where only clean bowled was seen as a fall of wicket for the umpires

  • on June 8, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    Is Misbah going to instruct all his batsmen to walk if they edge it? Is he going to step in and stop his bowlers from over-appealing? It's easy to pick on WI but if this had happened against Aus or Eng not one peep would have been said.

  • on June 8, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    the game is over w.i. won, the icc should stop playing head games with the boys from the carribbean. not walking when the ball nicks the bat,appealing for a catch when the ball did not nicks the bat , will the icc enforce all of these or does the icc has an agenda, did MISBAH ever display an extraordinary act of sportmanship,for example ,recalling a batsman when he is not out,not appealing for caught behind whaen the ball is not played. a good example was yesterday when he appealed for caugh behind and akmal shaked his head indicating the ball was not played. let's go w.i.,do not be distracted.

  • NP_NY on June 8, 2013, 13:39 GMT

    I don't understand what the big deal is. This incident did not have any kind of impact on the game. Anyone who as kept wickets knows that sometimes (although very rarely) when you catch the ball in the edge of the glove you don't really know whether you had full control or not. This is no different from batsmen edging the ball and not walking. And that is exactly what the umpires are there for.

  • waheed_kkj on June 8, 2013, 13:03 GMT

    Why Mr. Bravo has to mention the history, why can't he look at it as an specific incident.. What he is trying to say that WI only produces angles i mean they can't make mistakes ??

    And the other teams with so called stigma around them due to someone's individual act in the past are bound to be wrong for the rest of their lives ??

  • SNIFFLEATHER on June 8, 2013, 10:57 GMT

    Funny to hear these comments about "spirit of the game". How many of these guys ALWAYS walk when they edge...? How many of these guys appeal for LBW decisions even when they know full well that it is not out...? And how many of these guys change their gloves etc when the clock is ticking and their team are nine down trying to save the game...? Pathetic. To publicly come out and call a player like that is wrong - let the authorities deal with the situation, if indeed there is one.

  • on June 8, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    I saw replays of the incident and my initial thoughts was that DR did initially catch the ball. The questionable part was whether he had control of the ball long enough for it to constitute a catch ala Hershelle Gibbs in the WC match against Australia in 99. Obviously he didn't. The ball seemed to have popped out after him initially catching it in the haste of celebration. His WI team mates were already all over the place celebrating and I'm not sure if the batsman was already off. I can understand why he didnt'come clean(doesn't make it right) but the umpires did the right thing. I think it was a mistake; the batsman wasn't given out and I don't think that the issue should be blown out of proportion because no team is without sin.

  • FM97 on June 8, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    "I would not be very happy if my wicketkeeper did that." Well Misbah,your wicketkeeper can't even take catches like those !

  • Un_Citoyen_Indien on June 8, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    Bravo said "unlike other teams". That doesn't necessarily mean he's referring to Pakistan. The Aussies as well as the Saffers have had controversies in the past. In fact every team has had issues at some time or the other.

    I think some Pakistani fans are just being overly sensitive here. What's done is done. Time to move on and be careful next time. That's for you Ramdin......

  • RanjithShettyJordan on June 8, 2013, 8:37 GMT

    Anyway Pakistan lost the match. Good luck next time. Very good bowling, but batting is a disaster. What malik is doing in the side as most experienced player.

  • on June 8, 2013, 7:37 GMT

    he clearly knew what he is doing. picked the ball from ground and replays shows it all. no matter what bravo says or any other fans bringing history in .

    But in the end right decision was made so i think it is ok. thats what umpires are getting paid to do and Nigel Long did his job. it could have gone worse has he been gone out of field.

  • on June 8, 2013, 7:11 GMT

    us_indian: mate all teams appeal on lbw's even balls touching the pads oput side off. your team also appeal on these. check last game and check number of appeals. there is no team who doesnt appeal when ball hits the pad. this is different than those.

  • on June 8, 2013, 7:07 GMT

    Very bad comment from Bravo. As a captain you should refrain from unnecessary points. It's time for him to lear fast if he want to continue leading the WI. When you do not what to say better keep quiet rather than make fool of yourself. Learn my friend, learn. Get Clive Lloyd to help you.

  • on June 8, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    @kaushiq: and he was banned for some matches for doing so.

  • on June 8, 2013, 7:04 GMT

    @pacerone: mate all teams appeal whenever it hits the pads even edges and sometimes get decicions. its not only pakistan. talking about players who cheated, they are serving their sanctions. marlon is playing again after 2 years? isnt he? misbah is not saying anything strange here, he was sked question he said ramdin should have told. there is a diffrence between not knowing ball hit the ground 1st or touches ground AND picking from ground and hiding in gloves and celebrating.

  • on June 8, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    To Westindies Players: You should have shown some Sportsman spirit in yesterday's game.. * Ramdin claimed a catch which he dropped .. (Shame on you) * Pollard and Sarwan stood at the crease even after ticking the ball and waited for Umpire's decision ... and some people say that they(W.I) are true sportsmen people.. (Now this is a Joke)

  • on June 8, 2013, 6:58 GMT

    how could that be a honest mistake of not knowing that you have caught it or not? when you clearly pick it up from ground, hide it in hand and then celebrate? some people trying to justify it with that he may have hold it in hands for longer? it went in and went out straight out.

    Some people comenting here and criticizing misbah & bringing past expaples like that pak also claim that, or lbw, mate all teams appeal, and all teams appeal on whenever it hits pads, also some 1 mentioned kamran that he also claimed, can you show us the exples? wicketkeepers do claim when it just touches ground before going into the gloves and not only kamran all have some point have caught that. but that was not like picking ball from ground and celebrating with team mates. Ramdin's face was telling the whole story in that replay.

    It wasnt that shocking when it comes from a player who after just scoring 1 100 and bringing a sheet out to taunt one og cricket's great.

  • Jumanji1962 on June 8, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    Ramdin is not a Pakistani cricketer so there is no worry he will go unpunish, integrity will not be questioned. I remember Rashid Latif was penalized although it was a touch & go situation.

  • Pathiyal on June 8, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    may be ramdin want to cash in on the frequent mistakes in umpiring decisions now a days. against the spirit of the game for sure! very disappointed that misbah's team couldnt win despite that good knock by him and awesome bowling performances headed by wahab riaz. ajmal was also very impressive as usual. apart from misbah-nasir partnership, the others didnt apply themselves. the game was in their hand before nasir threw it away...having said that he can take a load of positives from this knock.

  • on June 8, 2013, 5:48 GMT

    Looks like bravo is banking on history to cover up the dishonesty of his wicket keeper- Anyways since we dont see this often from WI- i'll give it a pass.

  • riverlime on June 8, 2013, 5:20 GMT

    Ramdin was wrong to claim the catch, plain and simple. He has now allowed critics to smear the brush of dishonesty against all future errors, whether they are intentional or not. West Indians don't play like that, which is why their international reputation is so high amongst other countries. WI has always been everyone's second favourite team after their own, and that is because they play the game hard and FAIR; pretty much like how you would imagine you yourself would do if your name rhymed with Hayle or Gravo. It would be a shame if people started associating Ramdin's behaviour as a sign of WI attitudes. Rather, let his actions be an unrepeatable error in judgement.

  • adkum on June 8, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Finally WI selectors bit the bullet and dropped dear Sammy. While Sammy is good in the shorter version of the game he did not command a place in the team and I am glad the selectors showed courage and dropped him. He is neither a top batsman nor top bowler. He bowls economically but that is not enough to earn a place in the team. I hope he learnt a thing or two from IPL where captains either batted or bowled their teams to success something he has scarcely done as captain of the WI. His statistics in both tests and ODI are way below par. Players with his stats are left out in the cold but his friends in high places ignored his stats and persisted with him on the team justifying it by saying he was the best of the rest. Let's see how this team performs without him at the helm or in the team. Good luck guys. I have nothing against Sammy. I just want him to earn his place in the team like any other player should.

  • dmqi on June 8, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    It is not not what the past history is. True, WI team has great records in spirit, but have you forgotten what Gavaskar told about WI players in his book? And a clear drop catch should not be defended by the involved player and specially by the captain. Both should accept the mistake, intentional or unintentional.

  • Farhan166 on June 8, 2013, 3:57 GMT

    I did not watch the match but just reading the comments of Bravo in this report. I think his comments are inappropriate and unnecessary. Instead of commenting on this specific incident he is trying to bring the whole history of Pakistan cricket into this. When it comes to history no country can claim to have an impeccable history in terms of behaviour of certain members of the team representing it in different time periods. I do not want to dig deep into it and just want to leave it there.

    On a different note why a wicket keeper is blamed when he claims fior a controversial catch but there is no issue when a batsman stand his ground after clearly edging a catch. What happens to the spirit of the game there?

  • on June 8, 2013, 3:22 GMT

    Misbah is correct in his statement. i think Bravo is trying for a defense an indefensible act of his keeper. Cricket is no longer a gentlemen's game and I dont understand with all modern gadgets available for scrutiny under microscope why these players are indulging such unscrupulous acts.

  • BnH1985Fan on June 8, 2013, 3:16 GMT

    As the saying from the good book goes: Let he who is without sin cast the first stone .. please, Misbah .. let's not go "there"; let's not challenge the "spirit" in which the game is played.

  • wakaPAK on June 8, 2013, 3:12 GMT

    Mr. Bravo! well played press conference other than the fact that you should not play outside the press conference. You are a captain now and act like one. And yes, we have a horrible history but at least our captain did not condone those acts...

  • on June 8, 2013, 2:27 GMT

    when the bloggers attack the west indian players they are posted but my blog against misbah position mysteriously went up in smoke. good job people.

  • on June 8, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    and Steve waugh caught Lara in 1995.LOL

  • CrICkeeet on June 8, 2013, 2:05 GMT

    Mayb Dinesh Ramdin Learned wicket keeping 4m Gr8 (!) Rashid Latif :)

  • on June 8, 2013, 1:57 GMT

    Well my dear Pakistan fans... if my memory is gud enough, I remember Kamran Akmal claiming these type of catches for 'N' number of times....

  • US_Indian on June 8, 2013, 1:55 GMT

    First thing it could be a honest mistake unintentional and even if we presume that it was deliberate and not in the interest of the game then Pakistan got the taste of its own medicine- who can forget those LBW's not so long ago when even a boundary line fielder claims and put so much pressure on umpires that they eventually got which they didn't even deserve and thank god now it is not played in Pakistan and sharjah and most of the matches have neutral umpires otherwise check with England fastbowler Trueman whether my comment is it True Man?

  • YogifromNY on June 8, 2013, 1:40 GMT

    Salman Ali Rai - agree whole heartedly with you. It's disgraceful when obviously dishonest acts are sought to be explained away by these cricketers who should know better, esp. in today's era of super-close camera-work. I am a US-based cricket lover, and even though I am an Indian team supporter, I watched today's game with keen enjoyment of the cut and thrust of the action. Ramdin's action was simply "not cricket" and he (and his captain) would have earned fans' forgiveness if they had simply said it happened in the heat of the moment and it was not on.

  • on June 8, 2013, 0:57 GMT

    I wonder if he still write notes on paper, maybe Viv should write one and show him....

  • on June 8, 2013, 0:39 GMT

    What a bunch of lame excuses by Bravo and Ramdin... Ramdin got caught grass-handed and it would be just better to tell the truth and apologize rather than compromise one's integrity further and point fingers of anonymous others.

  • on June 8, 2013, 0:04 GMT

    Whatever explanation the WI team might have to offer, it really was utterly shocking to see the whole incident on the replay. WI has a neat history when it comes to such instances so they can certainly claim innocence on this but to every other eye, Ramdin's act was malicious. Yes we are supporters of the game and not present on the field but please don't insult us by claiming straight innocence. That was against the spirit of the game. I guess any such act might not be liable for a punishment (correct me if I am wrong) but we spectators expect better conduct from the men on field.

  • BRUTALANALYST on June 7, 2013, 23:57 GMT

    This is sadly part of the "win at all costs" Aussie attitude of that 90's that seems to have rubbed of on most sides today. It's the same with batsman there is probably only one batsman in international game that walks ironically he also happens to be the no1 ranked . . . Hashim Amla.

  • on June 7, 2013, 23:08 GMT

    Well played Misbah, better luck next time, Ramdin can be forgiven now as the right decision was made in the end, maybe if he repeats the same mistake again we can question his spirit.

  • on June 7, 2013, 22:48 GMT

    What a shame and a wordt excuse they came up with. There goes our gentlemen's game.

  • Munkeymomo on June 7, 2013, 22:47 GMT

    Silly boy. It was not a catch. I know you have to support your teammates but Roaches comms are weird, perhaps out of context, but it sounds like he still thinks it was clean. Anyway, I'm sure Ramdin regrets the claim. Bravo is right, you do not associate the windies with poor sportsmanship, Samuels aside.

  • Chirs-Cry on June 7, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    "Denesh honestly thought he had control of the ball," Bravo said. Give me a break. He clearly dropped the ball on the ground. Had enough time to realize that ball was on the ground and pick it up, again, and claim the catch. Are you serious Bravo claiming that he had control of the ball ?

  • RavinALaugh on June 7, 2013, 22:40 GMT

    Never a catch but people make mistakes. What his reasoning behind it was I do not know but we've all done stupid things we regret. I'll bet he looks back on it and feels daft. This is why we have TV replays though.

  • golgo_85 on June 7, 2013, 22:40 GMT

    "History" will show how Jimmy Adams stood his ground after clearly edging the ball to the keeper off Wasim Akram's bowling, then Walsh later doing the same against a bat-pad appeal. How dare we say anything negative though! Anyway, thanks to another pathetic batting display as expected, it's potentially and very much likely 'bye bye' Pakistan. WI, IND, ENG, NZ - semi spots.

  • keptalittlelow on June 7, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    This is not a matter to dwell over.

  • on June 7, 2013, 22:16 GMT

    I think the WI captain defending the keeper was sadder than the keeper wrongdoing itself.

  • on June 7, 2013, 22:09 GMT

    well said BRAVO I know they play of words and who you refer too..we all behind u

  • kaushiq on June 7, 2013, 22:08 GMT

    probably ramdin tried to do something he learned from Rashid Latifs acts against bangladesh

  • getsetgopk on June 7, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    Mr. Bravo, forget stigmas and other teams. This was just a simple case of claiming a catch when it wasn't and it is called cheating. No need to look for stigmas elsewhere or talk in that manner when your own keeper got caught red handed. We'll take your word for it that he is a 'very' honest person but you should also know and before you take the field that there some 20 cameras around which sees everything. Just ask your players not to do that again and keep the lecture to yourself.

  • Sheikasif on June 7, 2013, 21:22 GMT

    I have no doubt that pak would have done the same. Its sour grapes by Misbah. He needs to accept loss and move on rather than shifting focus from his teams pathetic display to some non-incident.Every team is there to win and I have never seen pak correct a wrong decison by an umpire so stop barking as a saint misbah.

  • on June 7, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    Mr.Bravo dont taunt like a kid and claim you guys are honest in cricket as we all know what is IPL about and what all the Windies players are doing there so make sure you are claiming what you are actually.

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  • on June 7, 2013, 21:10 GMT

    Mr.Bravo dont taunt like a kid and claim you guys are honest in cricket as we all know what is IPL about and what all the Windies players are doing there so make sure you are claiming what you are actually.

  • Sheikasif on June 7, 2013, 21:22 GMT

    I have no doubt that pak would have done the same. Its sour grapes by Misbah. He needs to accept loss and move on rather than shifting focus from his teams pathetic display to some non-incident.Every team is there to win and I have never seen pak correct a wrong decison by an umpire so stop barking as a saint misbah.

  • getsetgopk on June 7, 2013, 22:04 GMT

    Mr. Bravo, forget stigmas and other teams. This was just a simple case of claiming a catch when it wasn't and it is called cheating. No need to look for stigmas elsewhere or talk in that manner when your own keeper got caught red handed. We'll take your word for it that he is a 'very' honest person but you should also know and before you take the field that there some 20 cameras around which sees everything. Just ask your players not to do that again and keep the lecture to yourself.

  • kaushiq on June 7, 2013, 22:08 GMT

    probably ramdin tried to do something he learned from Rashid Latifs acts against bangladesh

  • on June 7, 2013, 22:09 GMT

    well said BRAVO I know they play of words and who you refer too..we all behind u

  • on June 7, 2013, 22:16 GMT

    I think the WI captain defending the keeper was sadder than the keeper wrongdoing itself.

  • keptalittlelow on June 7, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    This is not a matter to dwell over.

  • golgo_85 on June 7, 2013, 22:40 GMT

    "History" will show how Jimmy Adams stood his ground after clearly edging the ball to the keeper off Wasim Akram's bowling, then Walsh later doing the same against a bat-pad appeal. How dare we say anything negative though! Anyway, thanks to another pathetic batting display as expected, it's potentially and very much likely 'bye bye' Pakistan. WI, IND, ENG, NZ - semi spots.

  • RavinALaugh on June 7, 2013, 22:40 GMT

    Never a catch but people make mistakes. What his reasoning behind it was I do not know but we've all done stupid things we regret. I'll bet he looks back on it and feels daft. This is why we have TV replays though.

  • Chirs-Cry on June 7, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    "Denesh honestly thought he had control of the ball," Bravo said. Give me a break. He clearly dropped the ball on the ground. Had enough time to realize that ball was on the ground and pick it up, again, and claim the catch. Are you serious Bravo claiming that he had control of the ball ?