Pakistan v SA, Champions Trophy, Group B, Edgbaston June 9, 2013

Desperate teams face off in crucial match

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Match Facts

Monday, June 10, 2013, Edgbaston
Start time 1.00pm (12 GMT)

Big Picture

The Champions Trophy will only be five days old on Monday but already it's crunch time. Defeat at Edgbaston will leave either South Africa or Pakistan on the brink of exit. Neither team is ready for that reality yet, so expect a tooth-and-nail affair between two desperate units.

The numbers are in South Africa's favour. They beat Pakistan 3-2 in a series in March and, even though they lost the warm-up match last Monday, they are in better shape after their opening match against India. South Africa ensured their net run-rate remained high when they ran India close and they showed they could bat deep.

Pakistan did the opposite. They were woeful against a West Indies attack that challenged with pace and spin, and only Nasir Jamshed and Misbah-ul-Haq showed any fight. However, even though they only scored 170, their bowlers kept them in the game until the last 10 overs, showing they could defend as long as there was a reasonable total.

The battle lines have been drawn between South Africa's batting and Pakistan's bowling and has been evened out by South Africa's pace pack being depleted. Although neutrals would want to see Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel in action, without them the contest should level. That promises a match of spit and sizzle, rather than just steam.

Form guide

(Most recent first)

South Africa: LWWLW
Pakistan: LWTWL

In the Spotlight

Colin Ingram has yet to look like he belongs in big-match situations and will have to make the most of what could be his last opportunity to nail down a spot. Ingram will face a stern challenge against an attack which has been spoken about as the most difficult to face in this tournament, because of their variation.

He is confident against spin but will have to survive the early onslaught first and Junaid Khan will cause the most problems. The left-armer troubled South Africa in their warm-up match at the Oval last week and, with a middle order that is packed with left-handers, he can be expected to make an impact again.

Team news

Dale Steyn's fitness is South Africa's most pressing concern ahead of this match and it looks unlikely he will play, although they are holding out faint hope. They also have other selection issues to consider.

Chris Morris is certain to make his ODI debut in place of Morne Morkel, and South Africa may toy with the idea of including a second spinner in Aaron Phangiso. Colin Ingram should get another chance at the top of the order and South Africa may look to lengthen their batting line-up by pushing Robin Peterson up in a pinch-hitter role.

South Africa: (probable) 1 Colin Ingram, 2 Hashim Amla, 3 Faf du Plessis, 4 AB de Villiers (capt & wk), 5 JP Duminy, 6 David Miller, 7 Ryan McLaren 8 Robin Peterson 9 Chris Morris, 10 Rory Kleinveldt/Aaron Phangiso, 11 Lonwabo Tsotsobe/Dale Steyn

Pakistan's bowlers almost defended 170 on Friday so they will not want to make any changes to that department. Even though the top-order batting let them down at the Oval, they don't have too many options to bolster that. Umar Amin is the only spare batsmen but it's unlikely he will replace anyone in the current line-up.

Pakistan: (probable) 1 Imran Farhat, 2 Nasir Jamshed, 3 Mohammad Hafeez, 4 Asad Shafiq, 5 Misbah-ul-Haq (capt), 6 Shoaib Malik, 7 Kamran Akmal, 8 Wahab Riaz, 9 Saeed Ajmal 10 Junaid Khan, 11 Mohammed Irfan

Pitch and conditions

Ian Bell, who top-scored in the match between England and Australia that was played at this ground on Saturday, said the pitch became harder to bat on as the match progressed. Scoring slowed towards the end of the England innings and the Australian batsmen found it difficult to get going.

He said it was a very different surface compared to the usual one-day wicket at the ground because it was so much drier. That will become more noticeable as the tournament goes on and spinners can look forward to assistance in the later stages. Overhead conditions will also be good for the quicks with a mostly cloudy, mild day with a high of 15 degrees forecast and no rain expected.

Stats and Trivia

  • Pakistan have never won a bilateral ODI series against South Africa. Nor have they won a match against South Africa at either a World Cup or Champions Trophy.

  • With 24 fifties and no hundred, Misbah-ul-Haq is second on the list of ODI batsmen with most innings without a hundred. Leading that list is New Zealand's Andrew Jones, who scored 25 half-centuries without scoring a century

Quotes

"We hope he gets to that big 100 in terms of birthdays and can still make a difference in our country in the next few years."
Apart from everything else, the health of Nelson Mandela is on AB de Villiers' mind as well. The former president was admitted to hospital on Sunday morning.

"They believe that they can do it. I believe they can do it. It's just a matter of applying yourself. They should not be worried" Misbah-ul-Haq has some motivating words for his team

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • Greatest_Game on June 10, 2013, 3:14 GMT

    @ Choco Pops wrote "Comon Pakistan,,,Repeat the History ,, You did same thing in 1992 , and now its time to Repeat."

    I'm not sure if Choco Pops realises but in the 1992 WC, SA beat Pakistan. That was the match with the famous Jonty Rhodes run-out of Inzamam-ul-Haq - still probably the run-out best remembered by cricket fans. Inzy set off for a leg bye & Imran frantically sent him back, but it was too late, & Rhodes out sprinted him then took off with the dive through the air that flattened the wickets and created an instant legend.

    I'm sure SA won't mind a repeat of that history! That run-out completely changed the game, & derailed Pakistan's seemingly inevitable win which dissolved into a 20 run loss. Yeah man - repeat the history! Just don't repeat the rain rules!

  • on June 9, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    Its hard to Predict a winner, However watching Eng-Aus match closely have allowed me to extract few things which goes in Favor of Pakistan. Fast Bowling: England Seam Bowlers pitched it full and rewarded with wickets as there is not much bounce and the bowl sometimes skits through and sometime get stuck, making it hard for ausis to score runs. On the Other hand Ausi bowlers bang it short or in good length area which allowed Eng batsmen to score runs though slowly but without taking risk & throwing wickets. Sping Bowling: England use their spinners well, both Tred well and J Root got some spin and drift again pitching it closer to batsman and using the slowness of the Wicket. I feel Junaid Khan will be the real threat as he pitches the bowl full while Irfan & Riaz will go for Runs However Ajmal & hafeez will slow down the run flow. South Africa will be going with 2 part time spiner & 4 pacers who hits the deck hard and usually bang it short which will allow the run flow for Pakistan.

  • kc69 on June 9, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    Well..SA was one of the finest cricketing teams, but now since they've lost their finest bowlers but still have the batting firepower to pull off a victory. SA vs. Pak will be more like India vs. Pakistan where the fight is between Pakistan's bowling and SA batting. it's already known about Pak batting lineup and SA bowling both of which now look equally weak. Win is more crucial for Pakistan so that the next match (India,Pak encounter) becomes a tough contest rather than dead rubber (in case Pak lose against SA).

  • on June 10, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    In pressure cooker game, will South Africa survive the early onslaught of Pakistan bowlers ????

  • on June 10, 2013, 11:40 GMT

    If Colin INgram plays: I give up on SA!

  • SherjilIslam on June 10, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    I think it's the battle of Equals.Any team can win,& it's really hard to predict the outcome of this game.SA being the ultimate "Chokers" of world cricket and Pakistan being the official "Unpredictables". I am expecting another thriller of a match like SL-NZ one. And to all those people voting that winner of CT-13 will come from group B, i think you people are too optimistic about your teams and nothing else.Mark my words, winner will definitely come from Group 'A'

  • deep6321 on June 10, 2013, 11:30 GMT

    As the match is about to start in about 35-38 minutes..I would like to pick one side as my favourite. I think if pakistan drop Farhat and include amin ,their batting becomes pretty decent against the not so good african bowling.I think pakistan will manage a good score (if bat first) and will be able to defend it.So my favourite PAK (if bat first).

    If SA bat first , they will definitely put a good score on the board.and given the pakistan lineup i dont think they will be able to get there. So I think SA will be the winner. Best of luck to both teams

  • gsingh7 on June 10, 2013, 11:26 GMT

    i want green top for this game to see how sa bowlers and pak batsmen can cope up with it. who ever wins between pak batsmen and sa bowlers will win this tie. want pak to win otherwise india -pak match will be dead rubber as pak will be eliminated by then.

  • keptalittlelow on June 10, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    Dale Steyn in or out, with their current batting strength(weakness more appropriately), Pakistan have very little chance of beating SA. Their is no talent, no class in this batting line up, you need match winners in a bunch, there is none here as far as batting is concerned.

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    As the slowness of the pitch and sometimes ball stick will will make it difficult for SA batsman and it will suit to pakistani style of cricket..... hope to enjoy another nail bitter....

  • Greatest_Game on June 10, 2013, 3:14 GMT

    @ Choco Pops wrote "Comon Pakistan,,,Repeat the History ,, You did same thing in 1992 , and now its time to Repeat."

    I'm not sure if Choco Pops realises but in the 1992 WC, SA beat Pakistan. That was the match with the famous Jonty Rhodes run-out of Inzamam-ul-Haq - still probably the run-out best remembered by cricket fans. Inzy set off for a leg bye & Imran frantically sent him back, but it was too late, & Rhodes out sprinted him then took off with the dive through the air that flattened the wickets and created an instant legend.

    I'm sure SA won't mind a repeat of that history! That run-out completely changed the game, & derailed Pakistan's seemingly inevitable win which dissolved into a 20 run loss. Yeah man - repeat the history! Just don't repeat the rain rules!

  • on June 9, 2013, 21:14 GMT

    Its hard to Predict a winner, However watching Eng-Aus match closely have allowed me to extract few things which goes in Favor of Pakistan. Fast Bowling: England Seam Bowlers pitched it full and rewarded with wickets as there is not much bounce and the bowl sometimes skits through and sometime get stuck, making it hard for ausis to score runs. On the Other hand Ausi bowlers bang it short or in good length area which allowed Eng batsmen to score runs though slowly but without taking risk & throwing wickets. Sping Bowling: England use their spinners well, both Tred well and J Root got some spin and drift again pitching it closer to batsman and using the slowness of the Wicket. I feel Junaid Khan will be the real threat as he pitches the bowl full while Irfan & Riaz will go for Runs However Ajmal & hafeez will slow down the run flow. South Africa will be going with 2 part time spiner & 4 pacers who hits the deck hard and usually bang it short which will allow the run flow for Pakistan.

  • kc69 on June 9, 2013, 14:22 GMT

    Well..SA was one of the finest cricketing teams, but now since they've lost their finest bowlers but still have the batting firepower to pull off a victory. SA vs. Pak will be more like India vs. Pakistan where the fight is between Pakistan's bowling and SA batting. it's already known about Pak batting lineup and SA bowling both of which now look equally weak. Win is more crucial for Pakistan so that the next match (India,Pak encounter) becomes a tough contest rather than dead rubber (in case Pak lose against SA).

  • on June 10, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    In pressure cooker game, will South Africa survive the early onslaught of Pakistan bowlers ????

  • on June 10, 2013, 11:40 GMT

    If Colin INgram plays: I give up on SA!

  • SherjilIslam on June 10, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    I think it's the battle of Equals.Any team can win,& it's really hard to predict the outcome of this game.SA being the ultimate "Chokers" of world cricket and Pakistan being the official "Unpredictables". I am expecting another thriller of a match like SL-NZ one. And to all those people voting that winner of CT-13 will come from group B, i think you people are too optimistic about your teams and nothing else.Mark my words, winner will definitely come from Group 'A'

  • deep6321 on June 10, 2013, 11:30 GMT

    As the match is about to start in about 35-38 minutes..I would like to pick one side as my favourite. I think if pakistan drop Farhat and include amin ,their batting becomes pretty decent against the not so good african bowling.I think pakistan will manage a good score (if bat first) and will be able to defend it.So my favourite PAK (if bat first).

    If SA bat first , they will definitely put a good score on the board.and given the pakistan lineup i dont think they will be able to get there. So I think SA will be the winner. Best of luck to both teams

  • gsingh7 on June 10, 2013, 11:26 GMT

    i want green top for this game to see how sa bowlers and pak batsmen can cope up with it. who ever wins between pak batsmen and sa bowlers will win this tie. want pak to win otherwise india -pak match will be dead rubber as pak will be eliminated by then.

  • keptalittlelow on June 10, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    Dale Steyn in or out, with their current batting strength(weakness more appropriately), Pakistan have very little chance of beating SA. Their is no talent, no class in this batting line up, you need match winners in a bunch, there is none here as far as batting is concerned.

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:53 GMT

    As the slowness of the pitch and sometimes ball stick will will make it difficult for SA batsman and it will suit to pakistani style of cricket..... hope to enjoy another nail bitter....

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    Pak should replace imran farhat with umer amin. kamran and hafeez should open...Pak need a strong batting line,it already had two dominant openers so dont need imran any more..the bowling is perfect.Pak is able to defend any total with good fielding. All the best to Pakistan team...

  • Syed_imran_abbas on June 10, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    Pakistan is missing Umar Akmal and Haris Sohail in middle order. Malik, farhat and likes of umar amin are useless. even asad shafeeq seems only good in test matches. with no styen in side, hafeez might play a good role. good luck boys.

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:28 GMT

    It will be do or die situation for both the teams but my fair idea is South Africans doesn't do better in these type of situations. Other than any thing else is this Imran farhat Should not be the part of the team and Umar Amin should be given a chance to proof himself

  • A_B_R on June 10, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    I think Misbah should opt for the following players in the playing side for this match 1. hafeez 2. nasir jamshed 3. asad shafiq 4. misbah 5. shoaib malik 6. kamran akmal 7. ehsan adil 8. junaid khan 9. irfan 10. saeed ajmal 11. umar amin. This will provide a combination of new and experienced players. I think Misbah should make Hafeez open with Nasir because these two have good opening record, and also right hand and left hand combination to make SA bowling stumble.

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:24 GMT

    SA will win and Pakistan will smile......is this really cricket or a gamble

  • manojbisht09 on June 10, 2013, 10:23 GMT

    best of luck South Africa may be it was your better time to win the match.............

  • Ali_86xz on June 10, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    Pakistan - Imran Farhat has proved useless as an opener, they should send Kamran of Hafeez as an opener and replace Farhat with Umar Amin. If chasing line-up: 1) Kamran 2) Jamshed 3) Hafeez 4) Shafiq 5) Mishab 6) Amin 7) Malik 8) Riaz 9) Ajmal 10) Junaid 11) Irfan. If batting first, Hafeez should open, Akmal at 7. South Africa - SA need Steyn badly, incase he doesn't play they should use Aaron Phangiso, remove Kleinveldt, Keep Peterson at 7 to keep the bottom order strong. If batting first line-up: 1) Amla 2) Ingram 3) Duminy 4) de Villiers 5) du Plessis 6) Miller 7) Peterson 8) McLaren 9) Morris 10) Steyn/Phangiso 11)Tsotsobe. Toss - Team winning the toss should elect to bat first. All the best for both teams.

  • rock.rockyin on June 10, 2013, 10:20 GMT

    Eagerly waiting for the match...... Although Test championship is great to have but scrapping Champions Trophy is not fair at all.. We as fans have to send a message to ICC.. How can we do that? An appeal I mean... ICC shud organize more Tri - quad series...where although I am neutral supporter for today's match I am eagerly waiting for this match..... thats the kind of interest this tournament has generated.

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:13 GMT

    Its an interesting match. on books no doubt SA is a better team but Pakistan on their day can beat any team.

  • Pavinasen on June 10, 2013, 10:11 GMT

    Going by my gut feeling , I think Pakistan will beat South Africa,who are very low on confidence.Pakistan's bowling is far superior than SA'S.In the first match once India scored a respectable total & with plenty of wickets in hand ,they went after the bowling and had nothing to loose even when they got out since they were scoring at an average of about 10 runs an over towards the end,despite loosing wickets regulary,this was not a come back by the SA bowlers ,they were gifted wickets given the circumstances and I hope this does not give SA a false sense of achievement on the abilities of their bowlers.I am so nervous for SA ,even if they loose there will be some consolation for me that I do not see them hammered in semis or even the finals.if AB has any plans against the Pakistan players he rather execute them to the book or else he ends up loosing the game.A suggestion to AB,please go about doing your job quietly instead of publicly says that you have plans for ever player.

  • Pathiyal on June 10, 2013, 10:06 GMT

    if they can make a respectable score (if batting first) then pakistan has a fair chance as their bowlers can really do something at Edg. For SA, the absence of Steyn & Morkel is hurting! they should have included vernon philander at least. Pakistan wont get a better chance than this to beat SA. having not sure whom to support, half of my support goes to both, cos both are good :-)

  • on June 10, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    I hope the greens win today, the one with the tallest fast bowler.

  • GermanPlayer on June 10, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    The result of this match can definitely not be predicted.South Africa is a side that is known to crumble in games that matter. Pakistan though is a team that can play superb or crumble without any reason. Hence, we can only wait and see how the game goes rather than making predictions.

  • on June 10, 2013, 9:48 GMT

    it will be though contest if pakistan batting clicks.if pakistan is going to win this match that could be only because of bowler. africa got excellent batting lineup so they might be at edge.

  • on June 10, 2013, 9:45 GMT

    This is important that how the Pakistani Batsmen handle the bowling attack, they not only won the match to survive in this tournament even they need to maintain the NRR as well, Hafeez, Jamshed, Malik and Akmal they all have the capability to take this challenge just a sensible start will be the key, the bowlers are doing well but they must need to work out on Amla and Deviliers also because the situation for S. A. is also same they also need to win this match to survive.

  • letsgoproteas on June 10, 2013, 9:37 GMT

    PROTEAS!

    Come on boys, work your magic.

  • on June 10, 2013, 9:23 GMT

    The batting line ups Pakistan have been able to put up in the last couple of years is just plain pathetic. You simply cannot have your best batsman, in this case, Misbah, playing at 5 or lower. He needs to come up the batting order. So does Malik. Imran Farhat needs to be out of the team. And they need a keeper who can collect the ball. Fielding has been a weak point for almost all subcontinent teams forever. This tournament has thrown light on some excellent fielders from the subcontinent. The best bowling line up of the tournament belongs to Pakistan, even if Steyn and Morkel were there. Almost all the bases of left arm fast bowling are covered and along with Saeed Ajmal they most definitely form a fairly scary attack. I would just want to inculcate a discipline into this team which Pakistan has lacked since the time Imran Khan left. They need to start following the games of their legends such as Zaheer Abbas, Mushtaq Mohammad and Javed Miandad.

  • reality_check27 on June 10, 2013, 9:19 GMT

    i always enjoy watching pakistan bowl it is difficult to say who will win. But i think ajmal will be the highlight and exactly how south africa will tackle ajmal. insha allah it will be a good match and a close contest best of luk to both the teams

  • Haleos on June 10, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    @ TypeRiter - apologies for forgetting Amla. His record is exceptional. Highly Underrated player for sure.

  • mansoor777 on June 10, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    pakistan should play 9 players only out of 11 . (malik and farhat no use if included )

  • Chmap on June 10, 2013, 8:28 GMT

    pak is going to won today match pak pace attack is no pace attcak as compare to others team

  • on June 10, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    This is a very crucial game for both sides do or die situation for both sides misbah pick the right side for this important encounter umar Amin give chance to acceralate at big stage instead of imran farhat so stay cool and be smart inshallah our team win this contest

  • on June 10, 2013, 8:09 GMT

    This is so far Pakistan's worst batting lineup, Hafeez Kamran, and Malik were supposed to play very nice to prove their game and to lift Paks batting. Bowling is always Pakistan's strength no issues with that but still three left arm fast kind of eachother's replica

  • on June 10, 2013, 8:06 GMT

    Pakistan's batting is struggling big time. Weather will be a big factor for the outcome of the games. But they are missing a 'X FACTOR' player down at number 6 or 7. Imran Farhat shouldn't be playing at all in ODI's for Pakistan. They need some one to partner with Dashing Nasir Jamshed at the top and look to have a BIG HITTER ALL ROUNDER like HAMAD AZAM OR ABDUR RAZZAQ at number 6 or 7. It will allow Misbah to have a extra medium pace bowling option as the english conditions will surely suite the style of bowling of ABDUR RAZZAQ. More so, ABDUR RAZZAQ has vast experience playing for counties so that can be pivotal for PAKISTAN. The selectors shouldnt see the issues too far ahead. ABDUR RAZZAQ is the best replacement they have which SHAHID AFRIDI left in the lower middle order of the fragile batting line up of Current Pakistan Team. I urge Pakistani Selectors look in to this matter seriously.

  • on June 10, 2013, 8:01 GMT

    A difficult match to predict. Pakistan generally do better batting second, but expect a lot of movement and swing.

  • TypeRiter on June 10, 2013, 7:59 GMT

    @ Haleos - I'm half asleep lol! I even watched that bleeding game (Ind v S.A).

    Agreed. A.B is the key. Amla too - much is made of him being a "slow" player but his ODI record is outstanding to say the least.

  • JG2704 on June 10, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    I'd fancy SA to win this if Steyn is fit and they select Phangiso ahead of one of their other pacers. Having said that , you never know which Pakistan will turn up. Their strength is their bowling but they could bowl SA out for less than 200 and come unstuck chasing but by the same token they could defend a sub 200 score

  • on June 10, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    U will see pakistan will win this match and make space for next matches.. you will see

  • Pak_Guru on June 10, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    Pakistan i think should win this one. They should try Umar Amin in place of Malik or Farhat. But knowing them they will play the same team as in 1st match. Surely they will win today....

  • Mussab_XI on June 10, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    Drop Farhat and Malik else i know the result. I dont know what good do selectors see in Farhat ? Fielding,Batting everything is Zero. I mean seriously Pakistan should play with 9 bowlers,Misbah and a keeper that too other than Akmal,otherwise make any bowler a keeper!

  • Haleos on June 10, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    @ TypeRiter - India alreayd beat SA. Did you just join? lol. Good luck to both teams. Pakistans bowling is extraordinary. They pull over their weight more often than any other team. SA batting deep is overrated. It was India's bowling weakness which made it look like all 11 can bat. Against quality boqling they will fold. AB is the key wicket. If he stays for over 15 overs game over for pakistan.

  • koushik2412 on June 10, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    hope to see steyn gun blowing hot today. Be aware SA. Pak is having a super bowling line-up.

  • Haleos on June 10, 2013, 7:39 GMT

    @ PPL11 - No my friend. Best chance for them is to bat first. The attack is capable of defending even a modest target. The batsman are capable of loosing a match even if they have to get below modest score. 20 would be asking a bit too many from them. 150 is what they would be more confortable with. 100 would be best.

  • on June 10, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    I beleive SA is a very strong opposition but not unbeatable. Pak needs to replace Asad Shadiq with Umer Amin and junaid khan with with other bowling options. I beleive abdul rahman can play a vital rile in the bowling attack

  • on June 10, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    Pakistan is a like black horse. When they play well they can beat any team. They have proved that in the past. Another problem with SA is- they loose crucial matches and they have done it in the past when the teams performance was even better than the current team.

    Hope Pak team comeback with surprising strategy and make it this time.

  • on June 10, 2013, 7:23 GMT

    @johnq1 ... for gods sake.. Philander is not a good bowler.. he can only bowl in the perfect bowling conditions of South Africa.. bring him to faislabad and we will see bring him to india and then we will see his strike rate. i dont rate him as a good bowler unless i see him performing well in india or in places where the pitches are not so supportive to the fast bowlers...

  • on June 10, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    Pak Should drop Imran Farhat, add Umer Amin to strengthen Middle order

  • TypeRiter on June 10, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    Leaving work early for this...

    As posted in the Misbah article; this will go one of two ways:

    1) We will beat S.A and then lose to India when it most matters 2) We will lose to S.A and beat India when it's inconsequential (i.e eliminated)

    I don't think I have it in me to place my faith in victories over both teams to secure qualification - that's the joys of being a Pakistani supporter! I wouldn't have it any other way though. Inshallah, we can do this.

    Also... as much as I love the Steyn-remover, if he didn't play today - I wouldn't be complaining! Get him fit for India though!

  • CezK on June 10, 2013, 7:00 GMT

    Regardless of who wins.. the trophy belongs to this group (Ind or Pak or SAF).. Best of Luck 2 both ..

    - Indian

  • PPL11 on June 10, 2013, 6:54 GMT

    Best chance for Pakistan to win this contest is to bowl first and restrict SA below, 240 else batting is a big setback for them..

  • on June 10, 2013, 6:49 GMT

    Pakistan have never defeated SA in a world cup? really? perhaps cricinfo needs to look at its stats.

  • johnq1 on June 10, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    WHere is Philander. He is a good bowler..

  • on June 10, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    This game is very important for both teams.as we all know.i hope that we get to see both teams to have their best players on the field.luck favours the brave.pakistan team has the talent and the determination to win.today could be their day.

  • missionbegins2011 on June 10, 2013, 6:29 GMT

    SA does not really need Steyn's services to win this one against a struggling PAK batting. Morris and Tsotsobe should be enough. Also SA has a clear edge with their own batting, especially Amla is due to fire...

  • on June 10, 2013, 6:20 GMT

    the 1992 game was indeed a proof of how pathetic the rain rule was. 20 runs deducted with 14 less overs. Anyhow, Proteas made it with the rain rule in to teh semis and they lost it the same way. Things balance out.

  • on June 10, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    Pakistan has beaten South Africa in T20 though.

  • AkDoN on June 10, 2013, 6:07 GMT

    Being an Indian I will be supporting PAK here...they have the best Fast attack in world ..should choose to BAT first though as RSA will find it tough chasing against Wahab and Ajmal class....Also We dont want PAK to get eliminate at this stage....

  • Resultpredictor on June 10, 2013, 5:23 GMT

    Pakistan will be the first team to get eliminated today. Maclaren, Tsotsobe and Kliendveldt are enough to skittle out Pakistan line up. Without Steyn and Morkel SA are favourites to win this match and SA will only win. There is not even a 1% chance for Pakistan to win this match. Bye bye Pakistan, play the match against India and go home.

  • on June 10, 2013, 5:19 GMT

    Now what a situation it is, since supporters of both Pak and SA are regarding their team as the one losing today..... Both are not clear regaring their supported team's ability to make it through today....As a Pakistani fan, i myself am hoping that the disciplined Pakistani side turns up today, which is hopeless, seeing the poor selection of its squad for this tournament....I mean, Imran Farhat, really!!!! He should have been kicked out of the team after his century against SA in the previous series.....Pathetic performance as he could not even time the ball after staying for such a long time on the crease.....And have they been taking Umar Amin for Sight seeing for the last dozen series?......

  • vigneshvinu on June 10, 2013, 4:40 GMT

    Do or die match is always going to be interesting if steyn plays then again it is quite difficult for hafeez,nasir to play against him. the best thing. as far as SA must change their batting line up. they should open the innings with a specialist opener not with ingram.they tru with duplessis or else with avira peterson.

    1. amla 2.dupless 3. ingram 4. devillers 5. duminy 6. peterson 7. miller 8. maclarean 9. steyn/morris 10. tsotobe 11. klevinledt

  • dmqi on June 10, 2013, 4:35 GMT

    I am an experimental scientist and I believe on new experiment when old data is in doubt. Like many others said, I would include Umar Amin as that will give extra bowling power in case you need that. Also it will make no difference in batting in place of Shoeb Malik or Imran Farhat . If Misbah loose the match with the same combination as the last match, he will loose all his gains so far overnight. Better be careful, captain.

  • on June 10, 2013, 4:28 GMT

    Asif Kidwai! I am afraid Pakistan will not be able to drop any of the players you just mintioned. Pakistan has 4 specialist bowlers in their line-up and 2 all rounders (Hafeez and Shoaib). Every team should have atleast 6 options so that if one bowler is having a bad day, then he can be replaced by a part timer (Shoaib). They can not afford to drop either of Hafeez or Shoaib because the only other option is to include Asad Ali (a specialist bowler).

  • cric1984 on June 10, 2013, 4:23 GMT

    pak will win today and umer ahuold play instead of imran while dale is big diffrence between two if he will fit for play then it will create problems for pak.

  • SSAR on June 10, 2013, 4:12 GMT

    @ Adithya - Well if you do not understand what he is saying then whats the point of your comment. As far as batting line up is concern, its not whats on the paper, its how your batsman perform on the day of the match. Every one can make predictions just like you did. As you seem to be a fan of SA or just supporting for the fact that they going to play against Pakistan. Just to let you know - Never judge a book by its cover.!!!!

  • on June 10, 2013, 4:08 GMT

    @ Adithya Bourne comments that its the weakest batting line and its PK no SL, did you watch yesterday match?! If no, please do but if you did and still yanking about SL then .....!! You know what I mean ;)

  • on June 10, 2013, 3:20 GMT

    Ok Mr. Misbah, just for once leave your buddy system in the side and pick Umar Amin who is far better than Malik, Imran Farhat, or Hafeez.

  • on June 10, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    Toss is very crucial ..the only way Pakistan win this match is by batting first..they have worst record while chasing any sort of total.

  • rsnCricketCrazy on June 10, 2013, 3:03 GMT

    SA now the time has come to show your full potential.Be cool you will win. Include behardien/phangiso instead of klienvedlt. All the best guys.

  • on June 10, 2013, 2:52 GMT

    Misbah Please stop playing the 11 you feel comfortable with. It's not a domestic team.

    Pls play Umar Amin instead of Farhat. Look at Dhoni he kept confidence in Jadega and now he is performing for India!

    Please groom Umar Amin.. he is good batsman and also a handy medium pace kind of bowler.. Kick Farhat out................

  • Yasir26352 on June 10, 2013, 2:50 GMT

    Good luck pak teams but i think in this 15 players,best teams. 1.Nasir 2.kamran 3.hafeez 4.asad 5.umir amin 6.misbah 7.malik 8.wahib 9.irfan 10.ajmal 11.junaid there no place imran in this team. And with this team INSHA ALLAH pak will win.

  • on June 10, 2013, 1:59 GMT

    "They believe that they can do it. I believe they can do it. It's just a matter of applying yourself. They should not be worried" Misbah-ul-Haq has some motivating words for his team....

    is he motivating his own team or is he motivating SA by saying they shudn't be worried?....anyway i'm supporting SA,their batting can take on pak bowlers but their bowling seems to be a worry considering that they r now without stryn and morkel....but the good news for them is that thay r going to bowl against possibly the weakest batting line-up(not SL it's PAK) in the tournament...GUD LUCK SA....cricinfo pls publish

  • REALMADRIDFAN on June 10, 2013, 1:50 GMT

    how dearly pakistan miss the service of younis,yusuf and razzaq. with no quality batsmen among their ranks how can they expect to win against the top nations that too not in uae. i dont think they will make the semis this year although they have the strongest bowling attack in the tournament

  • on June 10, 2013, 1:33 GMT

    pak will win today INSHALLAH

  • Cover_drive_55 on June 10, 2013, 1:21 GMT

    Whoever bats first is likely to win the match. If SA bat first they will reach atleast 225+, which will be enough to defend. If Pak bat first, they will be able to defend even a score of 180. Though SA has good batting line up they are likely to choke while chasing in a crunch match like this.

  • landl47 on June 10, 2013, 1:03 GMT

    Given that SA are missing Morkel, Kallis, probably Steyn and for some reason known only to the SA selectors Philander, it's a chance for the side with the weakest batting line-up in the tournament to go through. Pakistan has one of the strongest bowling line-ups, so if they can hold SA (without Smith and Kallis) to a reasonable score they have a chance.

    I don't see Pakistan troubling India, so if they beat SA and India beats WI, then a win for SA over WI would give Pak, SA and WI one win each and it would come down to NRR.

    The loser of this game is really in trouble, so I expect a very hard-fought contest.

  • on June 9, 2013, 23:59 GMT

    Please please kick out Shoaib Malik and Imran Farhat after this series. First one has been playing since 99 and his overall average is 33 in ODI batting - are 14 years not enough to conclude that he is just an average batsman? I mean ok he is a good fielder and he can bowl if needed but when was the last time he took 2-3 wickets in a match or was given a proper bowling opportunity?

    One the other hand, Imran Farhat's inclusion just does not make any sense at all. I mean he makes few runs in the domestic circuit and they bring him on. His overall average is also around 33 and he has been playing since almost ten year now.

    Instead of Malik, bring in Sohaib Maqsoon (Domestic average 51 and S-rate 97) OR Haris Sohail OR Ali Waqas and in place of Farhat, bring in either Ahmed Shahzad or Have Kamran Akmal open and bring in another middle order Batsman.

  • riz309 on June 9, 2013, 23:36 GMT

    No way Pakistan will win this, the blame goes direct to the selectors if they wanted to drop Afridi and Younus they should have done it on the tour of SA earlier this year but when you play a tournament you need all rounders and hard hitting batsmen at the end specially when you have a messed up batting lineup Younus,Afridi,Razaq all had county experience Pakistan will be eliminated tomorrow and it's high time to get rid off selectors and the management

  • The_bowlers_Holding on June 9, 2013, 23:16 GMT

    parikshit_Ops on (June 9, 2013, 19:45 GMT) I would agree if Pak score 2,400 they will probably win, YaSir KhAn - you predict 'green tops' to win highly likely as they both play in green.

  • PAKisTANeee786 on June 9, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    Okay, so here's how TEAM PAKISTAN can make it to the Semis!! A little Optimistic, but here it is---> Assuming that Pakistan beats South Africa tomorrow, which is a must, than we must have these scenarios through which Pakistan can get to the next round. 1) Pak wins over SA, and WI wins over India-> Than Pak vs Ind will be the decider as SA will be eliminated and WI will be through. 2) Pak wins over SA, India wins over WI-> Than both Pakistan and West Indies will play their last matches with these circumstances...a win for either team and a loss to other would mean the winner goes through, or a similar result in both teams winning or loosing will force a net run rate showdown to see who goes through. 3) If India wins all their matches, with Pak still beating SA, and than WI loosing to SA in their last match will force a triple tie-breaker btw SA, WI, AND PAK with one win each, so the team with the better NRR will go through with India. As a Pakistani, scenario 1 seems to be the best:)

  • cric4world on June 9, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    m a pakistani but i admit it will b a miracle if pakistan wins any match in this tournament. most teams (except india and west indies) dont look in a good shape anyway but pakistani selectors made sure they dont give the team a chance to win.no big hitter ? u have been facing problems in batting and u send only one extra batsman and despite having world class bowlers already u send 3 extra bowlers?such a major tournament and impact players like umar akmal, razzaq and afridi r sitting at home.i know they dont perform in every match but a knock every now n then is always a help.u cant expect this batting line up to score 7.5 or higher in last 10 overs of a game. so basically u r there to bowl only n hoping none of the teams will score more then 200-210 against u and likes of imran, asad shafiq and misbah will crawl towards target. hats off to ur thinking selectors. its a 2nd grade test match team not a 1st grade odi tournament winning combination. no sir

  • on June 9, 2013, 22:21 GMT

    No matter who will win tomorrow, but its gonna be a great match of the champions trophy because of Pakistan great bowling attack and South Africa great batting performance.

    Pakistan can win this game, if it wins the toss.

  • xylo on June 9, 2013, 22:09 GMT

    ABdV will do well to not play two spinners against Pakistan. Also, I believe Ajmal will be the not-so-secret weapon for Pakistan.

  • on June 9, 2013, 21:36 GMT

    SouthAfrica to me,looks to be much better side than Pak. Man to man in the batting department saf has a very strong line up, whereas Pak has not such a strong batting to make a good total which would be defended. Pak only strong point is their quality bowling,with some amount of turn they have one of the top class spinner in Saeed Ajmal. If SAF bats first and fails to make a score of less than 200 only then Pak can make a match of it, which does not look like,given the Saf line up. If Pak bats first in all probability Saf would have better chance of winning,because Pak would have the daunting task of posting a good score against a formidable pace attack of Saf in English condition. To conclude,if your a betting man,back Saf if Pak bats first, you would be rewarded your returns much before the first inning concludes because chances of Pak crumbling in much higher.

  • PakWinners on June 9, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    If any team loses, they won't qualify. That is hard pressure for both team batsmans, especially top-order batsman because if they don't do something and make runs then they should think they lost the game. But both teams top-order batsman are strong and they can make couple of runs for their team. South Africa need to depend on a fast bowler like Dale Steyn, but he may not be there tomorrow on the field. Pakistan need to depend on someone like Muhammad Irfan, and Junaid Khan. If Pakistan, hopefully don't get out and they play like they did in the warm-up match where the opening batsmans, both made half-century, then I think the middle-order batsman can handle the rest like Misbah-ul-Haq, the captain. If South Africa's opening batsman don't get out by the bowling of Muhammad Irfan and Junaid Khan in the first 10 overs, then the favorites go to South Africa, but if they do get out then they are in trouble, and then Pakistan has the most favorites to win, and qualify for the next match!:)

  • pakcricketfan2013 on June 9, 2013, 20:49 GMT

    I am a huge fan of Pakistan cricket but unfortunately to accept that there are more chances for South Africa in this match than Pakistan. Pakistan batting is the the worst in their history. In order to win a match, you need to put a reasonable total on the score board which they are not able to do so. No matter whatever the bowlers do, the low total no pressure will give a better chances for S.A to get it easily. In case of PK batting second, they are always worst in that scenario. Why Imran Farhat, Asad Shafiq, Shoaib Malik and catch dropping machine - Kamran Akmal in this team, what are they doing? worst performance of M. Hafiz and childish play by Nasir Jamshed is making a miserable batting side. We will see how it goes, I will pray for my PK team and you never know as everyday is a new day but PK guys need to improve their batting if they want to win a match and a tournament.

  • on June 9, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    its a day night match, so whoever team bat first will have the advantage , if pk bat first and score 240 to 250, it will be a winning score as pak bowling is far better than south africa, and if south africa score 230, 240 runs, their fielding and fast bowling will make it. as far as pak batting is concerned, they should leave shoab malik aside and step in umer ameen who have already batted well against south Africa in the warm up match. if they drop junaid and get asad ali in, it will again be a beneficial bc asad ali has torn apart protease betting already and they have the pressure of asd ali on them. pak should bat first if they win the toss and they should have believe that they can do it again. come on misbah u can do it.

  • t20cric on June 9, 2013, 20:43 GMT

    By the way to all people who say in the comments that the green shirts are going to win, if you haven't noticed both SA and Pakistan where green so it doesn't matter which team wins the green shirts will win this match for sure.

  • t20cric on June 9, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    Pakistan has higher chance of winning this then many may think. Pakistan's loss against WI was because of a typical fault in there mindset. They were being considered the favourites of this trophy as well as beating a big team like SA in the warm-up match. Like any compliment does this got to their heads and they went into the WI match thinking that all they had to do is show up to win. Now that they have gotten a rude awakening from losing that match you can probably expect them to try harder throughout the rest of this trophy.

  • on June 9, 2013, 20:31 GMT

    Its hard to Predict a winner, However watching ENG-Aus match closely have allowed me to extract few things which goes in Favor of Pakistan.

    Fast Bowling: England Seam Bowlers pitched it full and rewarded with wickets as there is not much bounce and the bowl sometimes skits through and sometime get stuck, making it hard for ausis to score runs. On the Other hand Ausi bowlers bang it short or in good length area which allowed English batsmans to score runs though slowly but without taking risk and throwing wickets.

    Sping Bowling: England use their spinners well, both Tred well and J Root got some spin and drift again pitching it closer to batsman and using the slowness of the Wicket.

    I feel Junaid Khan will be the real threat as hi pitches the bowl full while Wahab and Riaz will go for Runs but Ajmal and hafeez will slow down the run flow. South Africa will be going with 4 seamers who hits the deck hard, and 2 part time spinners which wont be hard to negotiate.

  • on June 9, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    I think pakistan will give them a tough time because pakistan have best bowling attack but on the other hand south africa have some great batsman like de villiers and hashim amla they both can do any thing on the crease. But who ever will win this game maybe they will lift the trophy. and best of luck to both the teams.

  • hamza1982 on June 9, 2013, 20:14 GMT

    How can Malik still play this match? He hasnt scored an ODI 50 since september 2009!!!Why pick Umar Amin in the squad, if you wont play him when Malik is clearly useless?!If you think Umar Amin is no good, why wasnt Harris or U Akmal or Azhar picked instead of Umar Amin and Farhat? Personally I would have had Azhar, Harris and U Akmal in instead of Farhat, Amin and Malik in the original squad. What a joke....

  • on June 9, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    now no chance for a mistake its do or die now

  • wrenx on June 9, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    A big tournament match with no Gul, Afridi, Younis, Kallis, Steyn, Smith, Morkel... Really shows how the world keeps turning.

  • Dark.Matter on June 9, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    Just to correct someone commenting about india always won against pk in ICC tournees, Check the history, India have never beaten Pk in Champions trophy. Pk are 2-0 up.

  • on June 9, 2013, 19:48 GMT

    Well interesting scenario for Pakistan, if they lose they are out of the tournament even if they beat India in the last game. If South Africa lose, they will stay in the hunt provided they win the last game. Pakistan can make it to the semi-finals even if they win this game and lose the last one. Pretty strange!

  • parikshit_Ops on June 9, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    Well, my fellow Indians are saying that If Pakistan bats well it will win, contrary to Pak Indians fans are less biased toward other country and inaccurately judge Pakistan to be more stronger than what they are. As far as me, I know that if you remove pressure, Pakistan's record against SA in one day cricket is the worst among 3 asian teams . Many times in the past they have lost matches one after another against SA, but still I believe If and thats a BIG IF PAk scores 230-2400+( on not so batting friendly pitch) they will probably win but if SA bats first and Scores even 210 Pakistan Batsmen' tendency to fall a like a pack of cards in pressure will cost them match. 65(SA)-35(PAK) tomorrow

  • on June 9, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    Well, do or die situation for both sides, the one who win will survive and other will knocked out. Steyn and Morkle unlikely to play todays match and this will go in favor of green shirts..!!

  • on June 9, 2013, 18:58 GMT

    common pak u can do it ..... on saf is strong team .... but pak innshallah made some runs to make this match intresting

  • i-s-r-a-r on June 9, 2013, 18:51 GMT

    Whoever wins this game will win the tournament....just a feeling I have.

  • maddy20 on June 9, 2013, 18:47 GMT

    Pakistan are Mercurial side. If they make 200+, then SA will be in all sorts of trouble, especially if its overcast!

  • on June 9, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    @darsh127: no mate I think you are not correct. It will get clear in 2 days.

    @liteonon: mate its opposite according to the person who started it. Rest are just replying . It doesn't matter at all. Each day is new day

  • on June 9, 2013, 18:27 GMT

    Important game for both teams.

    The thing mssing from hereis that bell's words are from day game. This will be day night game. That changes it totally and tomorrow is not that warm.

  • washingtonindian on June 9, 2013, 18:26 GMT

    I think pak will give a good fight to SA, It seems that it will be a close affair, In Cricket you never know, Well my prediction is that Pak will not win any game, However once again in cricket you never know.

  • on June 9, 2013, 18:24 GMT

    Comon Pakistan,,,Repeat the History ,, You did same thing in 1992 , and now its time to Repeat..Misbah is 39 as Imran Khan was, Bating line was Worst as we have now, bowling was awesome as we have now.. so We can make it Happen.. Go Pak .. InshALLAH you will win this match,

  • imranmujtaba on June 9, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    Pak analysis: Good bowling - (poor captaincy+ poor batting + poor fielding + no big hitter) = 20% chance Pak to win. SA Analysis: Good bowling + Good Batting + Good Feilding + Agressive capataincy + few big hitters - possibly not very good spinners batsman = 90% chance SA to win. So on Paper - SA is far better but Pak bowlers can always produce something special which gives hope to all Pak Fan.

  • KNRZ on June 9, 2013, 18:17 GMT

    PAKISTAN IS WELL SHORT OF SOLID BATSMEN FARHAT IS NOT DEPENDABLE AS HAFEEZ and shoaib Mallik is not utilized as a bowler. I think Umar Amin will be good option to be included as fresh young blood. Pakistan selectors should have thought reserve batsmen instead of bowlers as they have done great blunder in my view. Umar Akmal was a good option but he was not selected. He was well in touch. So what happened the selectors to do such a blunder.

  • AvidCricFan on June 9, 2013, 18:15 GMT

    The Pak team can capitulate under little pressure. If SA manages to post 250 plus score, Pak will lose the match. Their batting is brittle. However, scoring 250 plus against Pak bowling will be difficult. SA would need two of their main batsmen to fire and one two providing additional support with 30-40 runs cameo. Chris Morris will be good addition to the SA team. I am perplexed as to why Philander is not in ODI equation. He can tear apart any batting lineup on his day. He is the next best option after Steyn.

  • NP_NY on June 9, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    Agree with @jackthelad. This is not a smacktalk corner for India and Pak fans. This is about SA vs Pak. Hope to see a good match. Good luck to both teams. Given Steyn and Morkel are out, this will be about Pak bowling strength versus SA batting strength.

  • t20cric on June 9, 2013, 18:11 GMT

    The match will probably be decided when SA bat if SA can make it past 10 overs with only 1 wicket lost then they might win but if they lose 2 or more wickets in the first 10 overs then good batting by any SA batsman will not be able to save them (if Pak score 230+ runs). If you look closely at the SA-Pak series SA always lost if they lost more 2 or more wickets in the first 10 overs and always won when they didnt. But that was in SA's home conditions, they werent being dragged down by injuries and played with a relatively full strength team and they werent in a big international tournament where they could choke.In the champion's trophy they are in that condition and to top it off they are in England where they ussually dont do so well. I think Pak should be able to beat SA pretty easily.

  • darsh127 on June 9, 2013, 18:11 GMT

    If India were to win the next day, they would want SA to win so that their third game against PAK would not affect their chance in the playoffs. If west indies win the next day, they would want PAK to win so that their third game would not affect their chances in the playoffs. Am I correct?

  • on June 9, 2013, 18:08 GMT

    I thinks it's does not matter if PAKISTAN has never lost to India . They should to give their best in up knock out match with South Africa . Otherwise both's team has not any place to stay in tournament .

  • on June 9, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    all the best wishes for pakistan...i hope hafeez will play a match winning role vs SA and india...and pakistan will win the both match and will go into semis...they should have selected umar akmal ahead of asad shafiq...but still they got good setof players and fast bowlers are doing good and spin options are big pluse for pakistan against SA.... misbah need to do a few changes in his tactics he needs to be a bit more mature in capitans way....if he had not taken hafeez off from bowling against WI and bring junaid khan back on bowling a bit earlier than when he did i think pakistan wud have won the match.......but now its against SA ..so i hope pakistan will win tomorrow... all the best for team Pakistan ...

  • t20cric on June 9, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    I think Pakistan have a good chance of winning this one. No Steyn and no Morkel means they have a weak bowling line up. Also SA are playing under quiet a lot of pressure as SA fans will want SA to win the trophy this could cause them to choke. Pakistan have to bowl very good, better then against WI. If u look at the warm-up match between these teams then all of SA batsmen in the squad were out and they only had bowlers left and brought Peterson in at 10. They wont be able to do that in this match. Pakistan have showed there good bowling as well when they almost defended 170. Pakistan should aim for about 240 and with their bowlers they will easily defend that. If the surface offers something for spinners then Ajmal and Hafeez will take a lot of quick wickets. In terms of bowling Pak are miles ahead of SA and if Pak batting clicks as well (atleast 3 batsmen make a 50+ score would be ideal) then Pak will thrash SA.

  • on June 9, 2013, 17:57 GMT

    South Africa has been known to choke in crunch situations like 1999 world cup semi final vs Australia. So Pakistan has a great chance to win this game. If they do so then surely Pakistan vs India, as always, will be a tense and worthwhile view. Best wishes for Pakistan.

  • Captain_Tuk_Tuk on June 9, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    Well its a tough game hard to predict but I predict Pakistan might lose this one and one against India as South Africa will do their homework and they will come with plan A,B,C and D so its tough for Pakistan. On the other hand if we manage to win it we'll surely beat India as well as bring CT home ;)

  • on June 9, 2013, 17:51 GMT

    From pakistan point of view pakistan should win this game against a which team whos best bowler is not fit and not playing this match I think this is a chance for pakistan

  • on June 9, 2013, 17:49 GMT

    If SA come into this game with the same overconfident attitude with which they played against India, they would definitely get beaten again, because Pak is a dangerous side. Morris should play instead of Tsosobe tomorrow, should be a close one. Hope Pak wins and qualifies to the next round, tournament is not interesting without Oak in the knouck outs :)

  • jackthelad on June 9, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    What is all this rot about India? Who cares? The game is Pakistan - South Africa, or hadn't some of you noticed? By the way, nice to see some cricketers keep perspective and have wider interests than just bat, ball and payday; I second AB's wishes for Nelson Mandela, a more important man than every cricketer in the world combined. Good health, Madiba.

  • ammarhassan on June 9, 2013, 17:21 GMT

    To me .. toss will decide the game .. if Pak bats first chances will be good in sha Allah..

  • liteonon on June 9, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    What's going on here? if pak have never lost to india in champions trophy, so what? can we deeclare pak win without playing? good idea!

  • romirom on June 9, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    Pakistan bating lineup is not good enough for the world tournament game. They can click in few games but doesn't have consistency. amazing to see that selectors have select only one reserve batsmen in the team and that was umar amin. they need to replace the player like farhat, shafiq(he is a test batsman), kamran, malik immediately if, they wan any success in future.

  • ShanO111 on June 9, 2013, 17:08 GMT

    @Abhijit Velhal: India never managed to defeat Pakistan in ICC Champions Trophy, there are two such occasions in the tournament history, first in CT04 and the second time in CT09, both times Pakistan was victorious. Your statement is correct regarding the World Cups, but in CHAMPIONS TROPHY previously called MINI WORLD CUP, it is the other way around mate........;)

  • on June 9, 2013, 17:08 GMT

    Both teams will give there best in this match. Pakistan have shown in the past that they play really in must win matches. Pakistan bowling have to click again. Pakistan's batsmen might feel better if styen is not playing. Pitch will also play assist spin so this goes in Pakistan advantage. Malik should be replaced with Umer Amin. Misbah,Nasir and Hafeez have to bat well. It is going to be a really good match. Whole Pakistan nation were cheering for South africa in the first match but this time it wont be the same. Pakistan will get a good support from the fans. Fingers crossed!

  • mainul079080 on June 9, 2013, 17:06 GMT

    My prediction about group B-Pakistan will beat South Africa,India(May be India Vs Pak match will be washed away and both teams will get a point each).India will beat West Indies.South Africa will beat West Indies.So India and Pakistan will make into semifinals.I think i shall then hide myself from the bookies...as my prediction may become true.....

  • bul98 on June 9, 2013, 17:00 GMT

    @abhijit, get your stats right .. PAK is 2-0 against India in ICC Champions trophy..

  • mzm149 on June 9, 2013, 17:00 GMT

    @Abhijit Velhal: India has never defeated Pakistan in champion's trophy. Pakistan has never defeated India in world cups.

  • on June 9, 2013, 16:58 GMT

    wishing SOUTH AFRICA all the best

  • heartbreakerz on June 9, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    @Abhijit Velhal...but in ICC Champions Trophy Pak has never lost to Ind, both times Pak won comfortably

  • coolmrtz on June 9, 2013, 16:53 GMT

    @aitzaz hussain i don think it is 50 50 contest . looking at SA they are much stronger in the batting and fielding department if steyn is fit definitely 100% win for SA

  • vigneshvinu on June 9, 2013, 16:51 GMT

    Abhijit you are wrong india have beaten pak only on 50 over and T20 World cups,but pak have beaten india in all CT. check the status. thank god no more CT in coming years.

  • rahulthewall3000 on June 9, 2013, 16:48 GMT

    @Abhijit: India have always lost to Pakistan in ICC Champions Trophy though.

  • Desihungama on June 9, 2013, 16:45 GMT

    @Danish Majeed - That's not true. Pak has dented it's net run to extent even if they get to 4 points which is highly unlikely they can still miss out. Remember we lost to WI with 60 balls spared.

  • AQ13 on June 9, 2013, 16:44 GMT

    @Abhijit Velhal Pakistan have beaten india twice in Champions Trophy

  • AshrafGul_FU on June 9, 2013, 16:42 GMT

    Lucky Pakistan and other teams in that group as Steyn and Morkel are not part of SA playing XI.

  • coolmrtz on June 9, 2013, 16:41 GMT

    in tomorrow's match SA would comfortabely defeat PAK because they have bowling allrounders in mclaren , peterson , morris who can swing the ball to a long way and they r far better thn the pakistani top order

  • on June 9, 2013, 16:40 GMT

    Abhijit Velhal , Seriously? Know your facts, India has never beaten Pakistan in the Champions Trophy!

  • on June 9, 2013, 16:39 GMT

    @ Abhijit Velhal you dont have proper knowledge. Pak have never lost to India in Champ Torphy matches.

  • on June 9, 2013, 16:33 GMT

    a nail biting match..... if Pak wins then Pak Ind match will be more crucial... tomorrow's match will be 50 50.... if Pak batting click, Pak r favorite then....

  • Lach-Ferragh on June 9, 2013, 16:32 GMT

    @Abhijit Velhal: " remember India have always beaten Pak in ICC tournaments." That's not true, Pakistan have beaten India twice in the ICC tournament. They've never beaten them in the World Cup 50-overs and 20-overs.

  • on June 9, 2013, 16:13 GMT

    Pak win against SA, India beat WI and SA then beat WI - will still give chance for Pak to reach final even if they lose to India.. these are the results I am looking for.. will give two India Pak matches in one tournament.. remember India have always beaten Pak in ICC tournaments..

  • on June 9, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    Fingers Crossed Seriously. It could be anyone's game. Southafrica collapsed against pakistani in warm up game but this time they would play more carefully. I wish Pakistan to win. If they bat first and make 250+ in shaa ALLAh the game would be ours.

  • kc69 on June 9, 2013, 15:53 GMT

    One small fact is that Pakistan and England are the only teams playing this tournament which haven't won this ICC Champions Trophy ever. Since this will be the last tournament and tomorrow's match will be a crucial one for Pakistan especially.

  • PAKISTANiLive on June 9, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    If batting clicks, there's no one who can stop Pakistan from bringing CHAMP TROPHY back home!!!!

  • Jda123 on June 9, 2013, 14:59 GMT

    I see Steyn being in this match up, without him also I see Pakistan still losing, SA batsman will get the better of the bowler and win by 50-100 runs.

    And you people who say recall.... you do know it is too late....

  • WeeBee on June 9, 2013, 14:51 GMT

    It will be contest worth watching. South Africa has edge with their history against Pakistan But Pakistan is also looking in good form. I believe its a competition between Pakistan Bowling and South African Batting! And if Pakistan had scored 250 or More then it will be a Pakistan's Game.

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:49 GMT

    South Africa were very poor against India in Cardiff. Their fielding was appalling, they were slow to react, they laboured when chasing the ball and failed to cut off several boundaries. Their bowling was ineffective, even with Morkel (who consistently bowled too short) they never looked like getting a wicket and their batting was turgid against spin - eleven overs without a boundary. I would say Pakistan are favourites.

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    This Match is seriously between Pakistan Bowling and South African Batting,Pakistan should bat first to give them some fair chance and if south Africa bat and score 250 odd runs,then likely and probably it time to pack up for Pakistan..:/ Plus for Pak 1) Weak pace attack of South Africa 2) Quality Bowling Plus for South Africa 1) Weak batting line up of Pakistan 2) A long batting lineup unlike Pakistan

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    Honestly saying....but this Pakistan batting line up does not give any hint of that aggression which it had even a few years ago....wonder what will happen if Steyn recovers in time!!!the pitch at the Oval was difficult to bat on but once a batsman settled they could get runs and Misbah was the best example for that....anyway hope Pakistan turns around again....they've got perhaps the best pace department in this tourny....good luck!!!

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    where is kyle abbott, philander, de lange..Viljoen..a long list of bowlers / bowling allrounders cover players should be there ....

  • Saqib_Sheraz on June 9, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Bring Umar Amin in and kick Shoib Malik out.... only solution Good Luck Team Pakistan

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    South Africa will be a clear winner, as Pakistan batting is not upto the International standard, they cannot play fast bowling and some times they cannot play even spin

  • mzm149 on June 9, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    Without Steyn and Morkel, South African team is a toothless tiger. No matter who bats first, Pakistan will have to bowl their heart out just like they did in last game. I guess Pakistan team is favourite for this game. Wishing South Africa to choke once again ;)

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    Pakistan is unpredictable team no doubt about it . AsadShafiq umaramin and imranfarhat not in good form.shoebmalik ok but not impressive .Pakistan should recall shahid afridi umar akmal and razzak. Afridi always good in big tournament .in world cup 2011 Afridi got highest wicket and Afridi played very well in Asia cup final and t20 world cup semi final and final. Afridi scored 88 runs against Africa .

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    There is no doubt what Pakistani bowlers can do but the question is What can batsmen do? If Pak batting first and post around 260 its a good and defend-able score. Junaid, Saeed and Irfan are the main key. Hope to be a good match between two good sides. Im looking for a big match PAK vs. INDIA!!

  • Dark.Matter on June 9, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    Styne was the major destroyer of the Pk batting line on his home turf, and with the elimination of Styne factor, Pk are having a real chance of winning the battle of in-consistent vs choker. But as we all know that Pk are highly inconsistent, and SA are big event chokers, anything can happen. Even Mclaren can take a good chunk of wickets, or highly professional bating line up can choke.

  • Amitkr291190 on June 9, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    Sad to see my fav SteynGun , sitting out. . . Had he & Morkel Played, Pak top-order must b in doldrums. . . . Expects My other Fav ABDV to help them, cross the line against the giant-killers.

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    pak vs saf will decide 2nd semi final team of this group.

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    SA have an excellent batting line but without Steyn & Morkel their bowling is not good enough to contain Pakistan, if Pak batsmen bat first & put a score of 250-270, they r going to win comfortably

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    SA have an excellent batting line but without Steyn & Morkel their bowling is not good enough to contain Pakistan, if Pak batsmen bat first & put a score of 250-270, they r going to win comfortably

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    pak vs saf will decide 2nd semi final team of this group.

  • Amitkr291190 on June 9, 2013, 14:20 GMT

    Sad to see my fav SteynGun , sitting out. . . Had he & Morkel Played, Pak top-order must b in doldrums. . . . Expects My other Fav ABDV to help them, cross the line against the giant-killers.

  • Dark.Matter on June 9, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    Styne was the major destroyer of the Pk batting line on his home turf, and with the elimination of Styne factor, Pk are having a real chance of winning the battle of in-consistent vs choker. But as we all know that Pk are highly inconsistent, and SA are big event chokers, anything can happen. Even Mclaren can take a good chunk of wickets, or highly professional bating line up can choke.

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:27 GMT

    There is no doubt what Pakistani bowlers can do but the question is What can batsmen do? If Pak batting first and post around 260 its a good and defend-able score. Junaid, Saeed and Irfan are the main key. Hope to be a good match between two good sides. Im looking for a big match PAK vs. INDIA!!

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    Pakistan is unpredictable team no doubt about it . AsadShafiq umaramin and imranfarhat not in good form.shoebmalik ok but not impressive .Pakistan should recall shahid afridi umar akmal and razzak. Afridi always good in big tournament .in world cup 2011 Afridi got highest wicket and Afridi played very well in Asia cup final and t20 world cup semi final and final. Afridi scored 88 runs against Africa .

  • mzm149 on June 9, 2013, 14:28 GMT

    Without Steyn and Morkel, South African team is a toothless tiger. No matter who bats first, Pakistan will have to bowl their heart out just like they did in last game. I guess Pakistan team is favourite for this game. Wishing South Africa to choke once again ;)

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:34 GMT

    South Africa will be a clear winner, as Pakistan batting is not upto the International standard, they cannot play fast bowling and some times they cannot play even spin

  • Saqib_Sheraz on June 9, 2013, 14:35 GMT

    Bring Umar Amin in and kick Shoib Malik out.... only solution Good Luck Team Pakistan

  • on June 9, 2013, 14:39 GMT

    where is kyle abbott, philander, de lange..Viljoen..a long list of bowlers / bowling allrounders cover players should be there ....