Pakistan v South Africa, Champions Trophy, Edgbaston June 10, 2013

Amla, bowlers leave Pakistan on brink

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South Africa 234 for 9 (Amla 81) beat Pakistan 167 (Misbah 55, McLaren 4-19) by 67 runs
Scorecard and ball-by-ball details

A taxi driver in Birmingham has bought a ticket to watch Pakistan every time they played in the city for the last 30 years, except this time. He simply did not have the confidence in their batting to bother. It turns out he was right.

South Africa lived to fight another day in the Champions Trophy as their bowlers, woeful against India but wolfish against an fragile line-up, defended a barely-par total. In the absence of Dale Steyn and Morne Morkel, Lonwabo Tsotsobe led the pack with maturity while debutant Chris Morris added energy and Ryan McLaren backed them up at the death.

Misbah-ul-Haq was again Pakistan's lone ranger and again he could not take them over the line. He lacked support from everyone except Nasir Jamshed. By contrast, South Africa's anchor, Hashim Amla, enjoyed small contributions throughout the middle order.

In an almost exact replica to the England-Australia match that was played here on Saturday, Amla's 81 was as valuable as Ian Bell's 91 but it may never have swelled to that had Pakistan held on to an early chance. Amla was on 7 when he slashed at a short, wide delivery off Mohammad Irfan and presented a tough but takeable catch to Umar Amin at point. Amin dived, got fingers to it and then he watched it slip through. It was a moment that taught him a tough lesson: don't' drop Amla.

Over the last year, England, Australia and New Zealand have paid for that mistake. Pakistan may do so twice. They put Amla down at the Wanderers in March, he went on to score 122. Both then and now, South Africa came out winners.

Conditions could not have been more different to Johannesburg than they were in Birmingham. There it was a belter of a track on which runs rained. Here it was a sluggish surface that did not facilitate a free flow. Both teams started slowly, Pakistan ended that way too.

Mohammed Irfan and Junaid Khan kept South Africa to 36 runs in the first 10 overs and did not take wicket, although they could have had Amla. Morris, Tsotsobe and McLaren restricted Pakistan to 18 for 2 in the same period, which immediately made Pakistan's task more difficult.

By the 19th over, their required run rate had already ballooned to six an over and considering no one had scored at that rate at any stage of the game, it seemed unlikely Pakistan would. But Misbah marshalled proceedings in his usual, calm way. He saw off the good balls - and there were many which South Africa bowled - and waited to take advantage of anything that was occasionally tossed up or slightly wide.

AB de Villiers did a fine job of rotating his bowlers and was spoilt for choice with three seamers and three spinners. He used JP Duminy before Robin Peterson and it paid off, when Shoaib Malik was bowled by a delivery that rolled back onto his stumps, and brought Tsotsobe back at exactly the right time, after a first spell of five overs for six runs.

The left-armer used his variations well and bowled Jamshed an offcutter that he fed back. The tall man got down low and plucked it in his follow through. Misbah knew he had to battle on his own.

After 49 boundary-less deliveries, he cleared Morris over mid-on to release pressure but he was soon stranded. McLaren removed Umar Amin when he tried to go big and was caught at cover and Kamran Akmal, who was caught at point, in the same over and Pakistan's chase seemed over.

Misbah responded with a six over long-on and then his fight was also extinguished. He picked out midwicket from a Tsotsobe slower ball and left it to the tail to have some fun at the end. Instead, it was McLaren who helped himself to four wickets for five runs to ensure South Africa rounded up a convincing win.

They would not have been confident of that at the halfway stage. With 51 runs scored and six wickets falling in the last 10 overs of their innings, it seemed they had squandered the chance to build on a well-laid platform.

Even though Pakistan's three spinners cost them only 107 runs in 26 overs, Amla's 69-run stand with Faf du Plessis and the 41 put on by de Villiers and Duminy helped negate the collapse later on. South Africa will remain concerned about the four run-outs but showed significant improvement and will eye the last four.

Pakistan now look at the semi-finals from a greater distance and, although they are not out of the competition, they need West Indies to beat India on Tuesday. If Pakistan then beat India and West Indies triumph over South Africa in the final group games, three teams would have won one match and net run-rate will come into the equation.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • on June 11, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    I think the time has come for Pakistan to get rid off Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat and Kamran Akman. They should look for replacements for these three immediately. The bowling of Pakistan seems to be excellent. After 2Ws, Imran era, this is the first time that their bowling is formidable and probably the best in the World today. They can't keep losing matches due to their poor batting abilities. They do not have one person who is of International Standard in the top of their batting order which shows, the time has come for the Team Management to do the complete overhaul of their batting. The fielding also below par other than Misbah heroics with two run outs and one stunning catch. Pakistan allowed South African Batsmen to take easy singles when they could not handle the Pakistan bowlers. This helped South Africans to rotate the strike and make the score board ticking. This also allowed the batsmen to settle.

    Pakistan has to do lot of rethinking to do.

  • mmoosa on June 11, 2013, 0:04 GMT

    Chris Morris has incredible temperament and talent. He will play for S.A for a long time injury permitting and whilst its too early to tell , he might be the replacement for Shaun Pollock. Tall,sharp and accurate he actually placed Pakistan on the backfoot with his unerring length,bounce and direction.The IPL has unearthed 2 potential stars in Miller and Harris.In fact Morris,Mclaren,Tsotsobe ,Morkel and Kleinveldt are all 6'4 or more and that's ideal in odi cricket or any form o the game

  • MichealT on June 14, 2013, 12:12 GMT

    After Ireland tour this was the worst fear of a Pak fan but it is a reality now. Pakistan could become the only team to leave without a single point. They are to play tournament best team and their fierce rival now who are in great form and playing without any fear. I wonder how the fortune changes for Pak team after they beat Indians in India this year. It seems Indians has got something out of IPL and their players are tougher, better and ready to go on Pak.

  • Crick_Expert on June 14, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Please see my last month comments that team selection wasn't on merit; Hafeez professor, Asad Safiq, Imran Farhat, Sohaib Malik weak batting will sink PAK in CT. Mr. tuktuk scored 50 but played like practice matches, and couldn't chase the targets. In ODI/T20 PAK really need fast playing batsmen who can fight to chase high score.

  • Crick_Expert on June 14, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    PCB should wakeup now and kickoff players who failed, PAK really need new batting lineup. Farhat, Malik, K. Akmal, Asad Safiq, Hafeez should be out and Haris Sohail, Razzak, Ahmed Shahzad, Hammad Azam, Awais Zia and LALA AFRIDI should be back as CAPT. PAK should promote Ahmed Shahzad, Awais Zia, Afridi as opener & groom Nasir Jamshed, Haris Sohail as middle order batsman.

  • Sports4Youth on June 14, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    The Biggest problem of Pakistani cricket is the Chairman and selectors espcially IQBAL QASIM, who thought that previous discards like Mohammed Hafeez, Kamran & Shoeb Malik could replace Abdul Razzaq & Shahid Khan Afridi.

    It shows the lack of vision in the selectors. After so many years in the waiting HARIS SOHAIL is still being left out just because the selectors wanted to ensure the Farhat gets all the games to play.

    In the present team just replace Farhat, Malik, A.Shafiq, Kamran, W.Riaz with Haris Sohail, Afridi, Razzaq, Sarfraz Ahmed, Asad Ali and you got a much better team. NASIR JAMSHED IS ONE YOUNGSTER WHO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY AND IN THE LAST 1 YEAR OR MORE HE HAS PERFORMED BETTER THAN HAFEEZ, FARHAT, SHAFIQ, U.AKMAL etc.

    I am sure if Haris Soahail gets an opportunity he will perform much better than all the seniors.

    .

  • onlyIndiathebest on June 14, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    well PAK is a team in decline. They had thier ups but its the beggining of the end for Cricket in Paikistan. Just like Zimbabwe they will fade out eventually. On the bright side India is on the semis. We can all watch the the best Cricketing side of the world and forget PAK

  • dontlikecricket on June 13, 2013, 20:24 GMT

    Misbah is best batsman in PAK one day line up, who was not even playing Int cricket few years ago tells the state of PAK batting now. I don't believe PAK has no batting talent as Azhar Ali and Sgafiq have proved themselves in test cricket. I believe selectors and the PCB are the problem who keep on picking tried and tested players. If players like Younis and Razzaq can be left out of the team then vastly less talented players like Shoaib, Imran and Akmal should not be selected at all. Another problem for the PAK batting is they are lacking another holding player like Misbah who can bat and occupy one end. The case of Hafiz is strange as well. He can bowl fairly well so still can play as an all rounder somewhere in the line up until a suitable replacement is available. PAK bowling is very decent and fast bowling is getting experienced. Seems like Wasim Akram's tip for the bowlers to be aggressive has paid off. Its been a very long time since I have enjoyed watching PAK fast bowling.

  • Crick_Chater on June 13, 2013, 15:09 GMT

    I like Misbah's run chasing strategy since last world cup semi final. He just blocks every ball, never takes a single until making sure the required run rate reaches 10 an over or above. He then gets out of his shell, make few big hits and gets out in the process without achieving any victory.

    This way he makes every one happy( his sponsors?, selectors and above all the management)..

    The only aggrieved party is us (the public). But does any one really cares???

    A below par batting line up was selected for obvious reason...does any one read between the lines???

  • Sports4Youth on June 13, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    Also time to get rid of Mohammed Hafeez. His form was temporary only on the dead & docile UAE pitches. Now he is back to be below average ways. He was never fit for international cricket.

    .

  • on June 11, 2013, 3:13 GMT

    I think the time has come for Pakistan to get rid off Shoaib Malik, Imran Farhat and Kamran Akman. They should look for replacements for these three immediately. The bowling of Pakistan seems to be excellent. After 2Ws, Imran era, this is the first time that their bowling is formidable and probably the best in the World today. They can't keep losing matches due to their poor batting abilities. They do not have one person who is of International Standard in the top of their batting order which shows, the time has come for the Team Management to do the complete overhaul of their batting. The fielding also below par other than Misbah heroics with two run outs and one stunning catch. Pakistan allowed South African Batsmen to take easy singles when they could not handle the Pakistan bowlers. This helped South Africans to rotate the strike and make the score board ticking. This also allowed the batsmen to settle.

    Pakistan has to do lot of rethinking to do.

  • mmoosa on June 11, 2013, 0:04 GMT

    Chris Morris has incredible temperament and talent. He will play for S.A for a long time injury permitting and whilst its too early to tell , he might be the replacement for Shaun Pollock. Tall,sharp and accurate he actually placed Pakistan on the backfoot with his unerring length,bounce and direction.The IPL has unearthed 2 potential stars in Miller and Harris.In fact Morris,Mclaren,Tsotsobe ,Morkel and Kleinveldt are all 6'4 or more and that's ideal in odi cricket or any form o the game

  • MichealT on June 14, 2013, 12:12 GMT

    After Ireland tour this was the worst fear of a Pak fan but it is a reality now. Pakistan could become the only team to leave without a single point. They are to play tournament best team and their fierce rival now who are in great form and playing without any fear. I wonder how the fortune changes for Pak team after they beat Indians in India this year. It seems Indians has got something out of IPL and their players are tougher, better and ready to go on Pak.

  • Crick_Expert on June 14, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Please see my last month comments that team selection wasn't on merit; Hafeez professor, Asad Safiq, Imran Farhat, Sohaib Malik weak batting will sink PAK in CT. Mr. tuktuk scored 50 but played like practice matches, and couldn't chase the targets. In ODI/T20 PAK really need fast playing batsmen who can fight to chase high score.

  • Crick_Expert on June 14, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    PCB should wakeup now and kickoff players who failed, PAK really need new batting lineup. Farhat, Malik, K. Akmal, Asad Safiq, Hafeez should be out and Haris Sohail, Razzak, Ahmed Shahzad, Hammad Azam, Awais Zia and LALA AFRIDI should be back as CAPT. PAK should promote Ahmed Shahzad, Awais Zia, Afridi as opener & groom Nasir Jamshed, Haris Sohail as middle order batsman.

  • Sports4Youth on June 14, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    The Biggest problem of Pakistani cricket is the Chairman and selectors espcially IQBAL QASIM, who thought that previous discards like Mohammed Hafeez, Kamran & Shoeb Malik could replace Abdul Razzaq & Shahid Khan Afridi.

    It shows the lack of vision in the selectors. After so many years in the waiting HARIS SOHAIL is still being left out just because the selectors wanted to ensure the Farhat gets all the games to play.

    In the present team just replace Farhat, Malik, A.Shafiq, Kamran, W.Riaz with Haris Sohail, Afridi, Razzaq, Sarfraz Ahmed, Asad Ali and you got a much better team. NASIR JAMSHED IS ONE YOUNGSTER WHO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY AND IN THE LAST 1 YEAR OR MORE HE HAS PERFORMED BETTER THAN HAFEEZ, FARHAT, SHAFIQ, U.AKMAL etc.

    I am sure if Haris Soahail gets an opportunity he will perform much better than all the seniors.

    .

  • onlyIndiathebest on June 14, 2013, 5:11 GMT

    well PAK is a team in decline. They had thier ups but its the beggining of the end for Cricket in Paikistan. Just like Zimbabwe they will fade out eventually. On the bright side India is on the semis. We can all watch the the best Cricketing side of the world and forget PAK

  • dontlikecricket on June 13, 2013, 20:24 GMT

    Misbah is best batsman in PAK one day line up, who was not even playing Int cricket few years ago tells the state of PAK batting now. I don't believe PAK has no batting talent as Azhar Ali and Sgafiq have proved themselves in test cricket. I believe selectors and the PCB are the problem who keep on picking tried and tested players. If players like Younis and Razzaq can be left out of the team then vastly less talented players like Shoaib, Imran and Akmal should not be selected at all. Another problem for the PAK batting is they are lacking another holding player like Misbah who can bat and occupy one end. The case of Hafiz is strange as well. He can bowl fairly well so still can play as an all rounder somewhere in the line up until a suitable replacement is available. PAK bowling is very decent and fast bowling is getting experienced. Seems like Wasim Akram's tip for the bowlers to be aggressive has paid off. Its been a very long time since I have enjoyed watching PAK fast bowling.

  • Crick_Chater on June 13, 2013, 15:09 GMT

    I like Misbah's run chasing strategy since last world cup semi final. He just blocks every ball, never takes a single until making sure the required run rate reaches 10 an over or above. He then gets out of his shell, make few big hits and gets out in the process without achieving any victory.

    This way he makes every one happy( his sponsors?, selectors and above all the management)..

    The only aggrieved party is us (the public). But does any one really cares???

    A below par batting line up was selected for obvious reason...does any one read between the lines???

  • Sports4Youth on June 13, 2013, 12:19 GMT

    Also time to get rid of Mohammed Hafeez. His form was temporary only on the dead & docile UAE pitches. Now he is back to be below average ways. He was never fit for international cricket.

    .

  • boomboom567 on June 13, 2013, 8:54 GMT

    Everyone played horribly except our legendary Skipper Misbah ul Haq. Misbah is the only stable batsmen in our team. In his last 10 matches his average was 63.4. PCB should not change his position as chain. I

  • Solid_Snake on June 13, 2013, 6:54 GMT

    I really liked a comment from a former Pak test cricketer.. He said that 'If we have to lose like that,why not then try the youngsters & groom then for the next WC' I agree on it as well..Senior & experienced players are given chance again & again because all hope to see them perform &save the team in crisis.Butif they are failing again & again then there is no need to reply on them.If the team has to lose anyways,then go for the youngstes

  • on June 13, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    I believe that now is the right time to bring in new players we cant keep going back to old faces like afridi, younis, razzaq all international teams move forward we tend to go back why not for the WI tour take harris sohail, u akaml, hammad azam, babar azam, sami aslam etc they surely cant do worse then some of the players that are in the team now. Lame excuses are used to defend/protect certain players like they are the best players in pakistan or yes last time they scored a 50 etc the whole board and the cricket structure in pakistan needs changing. Bring in people who have at least played certain number of ODI and test for pakistan in the board not people who had played 1 or 2 test and a handful of odis. What was the point of the conditionining camp tips from former players like wasim akram and sending the national team to the tour of scotland/ireland if at the end of the day they performed like this who is responsible??? coach/captin or slectors or the players themsleves

  • Solid_Snake on June 12, 2013, 20:23 GMT

    @Harmony111 ->Our whole nation is asking the same question about Umer Akmal..He simply just vanished somewhere

  • spellbinder76 on June 12, 2013, 18:04 GMT

    If Misbah is not a match winner then who in current Pakistan team is a match winner. They need to sack the selectors for poor selection for such an important event. Too much advise and coaching is pressurizing the players. Let them play their natural game. Pakistani players cannot come out of the hotel, if they play bad against India they will go into hiding. There is no problem in losing but in the manner of losing.

  • Harmony111 on June 12, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    @Solid_Snake: There is a diff in being a stroke player and being aggressive. Sehwag for eg was not an aggressive player at all but he liked to play strokes. What matters is how the team gains. If you score 20 runs aggressively and then get out then it is better if you score 60 runs by playing strokes. Stroke playing keeps the morale up while with an aggressive batsman the bowler feels he has a chance anytime. A stroke player keep showing the others that you can score 4s off good/bad balls and be creative with other balls. He tells the waiting batsman this is how you should bat while an aggressive batsman entertains but offers no formula. Anwar wasn't aggressive but he was a stroke player. As of now, the only Pakistani stroke player I can think of is Umar Akmal. I don't know why he is not in the team.

    The SL fans are happy to see India lose or do badly but unlike them, I don't feel good to see Pak lose, esp like this (though I would want India to win the next match vs Pak.)

  • Dark.Matter on June 12, 2013, 16:18 GMT

    Bureaucracy's favorites misbah and hafeez, kamran, malik, farhat will not lose their spots. Umer amin can't be blamed but he lacks technique. Shafiq is a proper batsman but he has confidence problem along with jamshed. Keeper can be replaced by sarfaraz(best keeper we have IMO). Farhat, malik can be replaced by ahmad shezad and razzaq. hafeez with hammad azam. Misbah's replacement is afridi. umer akaml is much better than u.amin

  • muh369 on June 12, 2013, 15:12 GMT

    Prime Minister Nawaz Sharief you love cricket so much that you used to play in old days. Please fix the existing problems in selection organization. Possible Pakistan should be: Imran Nazir/Ahmad Shahzad, Nasir Jamshaid, Muhammad Yousaf, Younus Khan, Umer Akmal, Misbah-ul-Haq, Shahid Afridi, Abdul razaq, Irfan, Junaid Khan, Saeed Ajmal, Hafzeez, Kamran Akmal, Raza Ahmad, Ehsan Adil, & Umer Gul.

    If Pakistan Pick 11 players from above 15, I believe no one can beat them. Espacially you should not ignore Abdul Razaq, Muhammad Yousaf, and Imran Nazir. Keep Shahid Afridi in openning position regardless of his performance.

    Please do post my comments. These suggestions are for Prime Minsiser of Pakistan to fix the existing bugs in Pakistan Cricket Board and selection panel.

  • on June 12, 2013, 12:30 GMT

    shameful performance from pakistan team.

  • Crick_Expert on June 12, 2013, 12:21 GMT

    LALA AFIRIDI should back as CAPT. PAK TEAM needed RAZZAK, AHMED SHAHZAD, AWAIS ZIA, IMRAN NAZIR, and Hasas Raza.

  • Crick_Expert on June 12, 2013, 12:20 GMT

    Pakistan is kings-land that is full of cricket talanted players. I am in UK & sad to saw both matches. Please see my pervious comments that Mr. tuktuk Misbah, Professor Hafeez, Asad Safiq, should be out from ODI/T20 forever. Now they shouldn't waste out time and retire from cricket.

  • Solid_Snake on June 12, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    @Harmony->Actually we have Stroke players..Jamshed is really Aggressive.He used to play freely in the starting few matches of his Career.But suddenly what happened that he had to go into his shell..I Agree with the comment about Failure in SA & getting Drooped.This thing totally changed the mind set of Jamshed.Now he goes out,do tuk tuk.World has seen him playing in the BPL..He is one hell of a beast in limited overs game.Same is Ahmed Shehzad..He was a nightmare for the bowlers in BPL..Partnering up with Gayle & actually performing better than Gayle there..We got many stroke players.They just need to play their natural game & that's it.

  • Harmony111 on June 12, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    @Solid_Snake: Misbah may have done reasonably well of late as a batsman but sadly I do not think he is much of a captain. Comparing his to MSD is misplaces. MSD comes lower down to control the chase or late overs but he also has powerful hitters up the order. Pak have Hafeez, Shafiq & Farhat up the order and Malik too takes time to get going. Jamshed has done well but none of these is a stroke player. Adding all these together slows the start a lot and then you have Misbah coming in. Where will the innings gets momentum from? I still maintain that Pak lost the WC SF due to that stupid shot of Hafeez, slow innings of Misbah & foolish tactics of Afridi. If I was Misbah then I would tell my top order to play shot. Pak anyways become 15/3 by not playing shots and all out for <200, what could be worse than that? But these things require clear thinking and a perception of the problem. Misbah may be a nice man and a good batsman but I think he lacks that special quality.

  • on June 12, 2013, 8:21 GMT

    bring back afridi as captain he alone has the capacity to rebuild the team, he has proved it already

  • Sports4Youth on June 12, 2013, 8:11 GMT

    Someone should tell Misbah & Iqbal Qasim that you cannot win limited overs games will blocker or tuk-tuks. All the hard work done by the bowlers is always wasted by the batsmen and the bad fielders in the Pakistan team.

    .

  • Sports4Youth on June 12, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    One thing is clear that Misbah is not a match winner. Whenever Misbah has played a longish innings Pakistan have always lost.

  • Sports4Youth on June 12, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    Hafeez has come to the end of his career. He was dreaming of taking the places of the likes of Shahid Afridi and Abdul Razzaq. That has turned out to be a joke. Players like Razzaq & Afridi come along only once a while and if you miss them then you have to wait for a very long time for the next ones. Such players are irreplaceable. Look at Cris Gayle, does he score in all the innings he plays. Compare Afridi & Razzaq to any all-rounders in the world for example Angelo Matthews, Dwyan Bravo, Sammy, Pollard, etc etc. . Afridi is also such a committed fielder. You bring in Farhat and he drops important catches that cost you the match.

    .

  • Sports4Youth on June 12, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    Actually all the criticism of Misbah is justified. He has filled the team will tuk-tuks like himself. Moreover, look what he has done to Jamshed. When Jamshed came he was a steady flowing player who did very well in the begining. Then Jamshed faced a few failures in SA. And in his zeal to satisfying Mohammed Ilyas, Misbah dropped Jamshed and replaced him with Farhat. That was a death nail for Jamshed. Now Jamshed knows that his place is most vulnarable in the Pakistani side. THERE WERE MANY FAILURES IN THE SA SERIES, INCLUDING MISBAH. BUT JAMSHED WAS THE ONE TO BE DROPPED. In the first innings Jamshed did get a free flowing 47, but that did not matter to Misbah. THE MESSAGE THAT HAS GONE TO JAMSHED IS NOW OBVIOUS IN HIS BATTING STYLE. Now he is fighting for his place in the team. This is happening inspite of the fact that S.Mallik has done absolutely nothing in the last 2 years or so, but he continues.

    .

  • Solid_Snake on June 12, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    Iwonder why is Ahmed Shehzad kept out of the team.He is far more aggressive & effective than all the other batsmen of Pakistan.Ahmed Shahzad with Kamran Akmal would have been a perfect Combo as openers.Kicking out Farhat.Bringing in Harris Sohail instead of Shoaib Malik.People calling Misbah as the worst thing happened to Pak team.Just wait & watch when Hafeez becomes the Captain.Worst thing is yet to happen with our team..Wait & watch

  • on June 12, 2013, 5:16 GMT

    This is an indication or could be aan indication of things to come for Pakistan, if we need to prepare for the 2015 World Cup we got to go with some youngsters, Umer Amin like Rohit Sharma could have been asked to open, drop Imran Farhat, a good player but out of form, also players like Haris Sohail and many others should be looked upon to get into ODI cricket..................

  • on June 12, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    Well it can be seen that they are experimenting a lot where they don't even have those confident players to shuffle around which India has.We have seen that akmal is a better choice to open rather going at the bottom,because he is not at all a middle order batsmen.And why would play defensive where as Pakistan Cricket is well known for there offensive style.You have to let your players feel the freedom so that they can play in there own style not adapt :S!!Look at the Indians all they do is hit the ball and nudge the singles when needed and believe me i play it i also found this theory very friendly.It can be totaly seen that some body has given them the idea that get into a nutshell and stay like that.If a team is aggressive let them play like that rather than changing there playing style pick the right batting order.Shoab malik has always been a good player with the tail ,i guess at times statistics give you a better option.And any day AFRIDI is a better threat.

  • TMuhammad on June 12, 2013, 1:26 GMT

    Agree with zee_1203. I suggest a match between the current team with another team consists of 1- Ahmed Shahzad 2- Shahzaib Hassan 3- Azhar Ali 4- Younus Khan 5- Fawad Alam 6- Harris Sohail 7- Shahid Afrida 8- Sarfraz Ahmed 9- Anwar Ali 10- Zulfiqar Babar 11- Yasir Arafat 12-Akber ur Rehman 13- Tabish Khan 14- Khalid Latif 15- khurram Manzoor 16- Sharjeel Khan.

    You will see the results. I believe this team has capability and capacity to easily beat the existing Pakistani team

  • on June 12, 2013, 1:20 GMT

    I bet all these Pakistan 'fans' were delighted when Misbah was stranded on 96. I was at Edgbaston and was as disgusted by the performance as everybody else. But there was only one who could hold his head high and call himself a Pakistani and that was the captain. What the cameras probably did not pick up and you armchair critics did not see was the crowd was still rocking when Misbah was at the crease, as soon as he was out the place emptied fast

  • on June 11, 2013, 21:22 GMT

    Misbah is the worst thing happened to Pakistan cricket. All those who says that he has been performing are clueless. Its leadership and influence which is effecting the team. He has put fear in the brains of Pakistani batsman and anyone who understands cricket knows that batting is all about confidence and if you are given fear of not getting out and just occupying the crease, it only restricts a batsman and demolishes his natural style of game. I agree misbah is good bat and he can play as a batsman but for god sake we need positive/agressive leadership who encourages natural talent. Pakistan team has been destroyed by this guy , all the things that we use to love about Pakistani cricket has been taken away by this guy.I agree that sometime we use to see Pakistan colpse's becuz of rash shots but atleast they use to be agressive and natural.

  • on June 11, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    Pakistan has suffered because of poor selection and Misbah has a part in it because of such things Pakistan is out how can you oust 3 established players in place of 3 unknown ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!unbelievable.......................................

  • Solid_Snake on June 11, 2013, 20:36 GMT

    @Harmony->We Pak fans are really disappointed to see our team playing like that.It's as if they have no interest at all in playing.If it was a test match then i would have given them a benefit of doubt.But it's ODI.We cant even chase 234 runs in an ODI while we know well that it's a do or die situation as this match is the last hope.Then getting all out on such a low total.Ive got no words for this loss

  • Solid_Snake on June 11, 2013, 20:32 GMT

    This is how one should Bat..The Indians are showing us how to bat properly.Look at them playing now.It's a clear message for Pakistan team..The same team who got crushed by WI..& now the same WI team getting crushed..Pak vs India match..Expect some fireworks..I hope Pak batsmen still got a little bit of honour left in them.Hope to see them going all out with nothing to lose

  • Zee_1203 on June 11, 2013, 20:15 GMT

    Don't worry the way India is playing it will be 0-3 and then I hope someone can through the cold water on selectors so they can wake up and do the operational clean up for the world cup. my team will be: Ahmad Shahzad 2) Nasir Jamsheed 3) Azhar 4) Younus 5) Asad Shafique/ Hammad Azam 6) Sarfraz 7) Afridi 8) Saeed 9) Junaid 10) Irfan 11) Gull

    Put Misbah for test only.

  • Harmony111 on June 11, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    @Solid_Snake: I am an Ind fan but I am also a Cricket fan. Pak's contribution to the game can't be denied. Unlike KiwiRocker, Baseball-sucks, 5Wombats etc, I am not parochial (certainly not that much). Given that Pak had chased a similar total vs SA in the warm ups, I had full hopes this time too. More than the loss, it was the lack of intent that irked me. Is this the same team that had Anwar & Sohail? They had scored 88 runs in 10 overs vs India in WC QF 96. That was 17 yrs ago !!!! Pak have had Afridi who scored a 100 in 37 balls and look what they have now. Had they lost by 2 runs it won't have been that bad. SA bowled well but not that well to be able to defend 234.

    My problem is that if Pak were to go out of CT like this, it would hurt the passion back home. We have seen this with WI. Cricket can't risk losing its two most flamboyant constituents.

    Spare a thought for guys like Ajmal. He bowls his heart out each time he plays; all he gets is a loss.

  • on June 11, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    Dropping Afridi is the biggest blunder Misbah and team management has done I believe that just half of "Lala" can perform better than Misbah, Hafeez, Farhat and Malik and now bring back SHAHID KHAN AFRIDI, Ahmad Shehzad, Naveed Yaseen and Babar Azam n throw all the top and middle order batsmen.

  • somethingdifferent on June 11, 2013, 18:16 GMT

    I am amazed at the people who are blaming everything on Misbah. He is doing reasonably well in his own capacity. He got 56% of the total agst WI & 33% agst SA. Scoring rate gets immaterial when wickets are falling all around you. For those who think Kamran still has anything to offer, they do not know anything about cricket. He was selected on basis of his batting ( everyone knows of his pathetic keeping) but he has done nothing with the bat. The excuse that he is batting down the order is the silliest excuse, if he hangs around a while, scores 20-30 runs and then gets out playing shots this argument may hold but the guy simply seems to have forgotten how to score runs. He gets out without even getting a start, so batting order becomes irrelevant. Similarly Farhat, Malik, and Riaz are nothing but liabilities and the sooner we get rid of them the better it is for Pakistan cricket.

  • mugarmuch on June 11, 2013, 18:10 GMT

    Ohh GOD, people who thinks Misbah is a hero not sure what you have been watching this guy have cost us two WC, several ODI series, CT and list continues. Misbah have all the shots in the book but every cricketing legend commentator have no clue why he blocks every ball and puts the entire team under pressure. If he thinks he can be Inzi he better wake up and apologize, when was the last time Misbah finished a match on high note the answer is never. Criticizing the rest of the team is no good as they have to follow their Capt instrustions to keep blocking, tell me this he only wants to score on a bad ball by bowlers well don't you think anyone can do that what makes an international player that he can convert even a good balls to scoring runs and if the idea is that other bowlers have to give you a free bee then you are wrong should not be in the team. Please get injured and stay out of the team and I bet anything we will start winning matches again.

  • Charlie_Chapatti on June 11, 2013, 18:02 GMT

    As a Pakistan supporter I truly hope that India thrash us in the remaining match so that the 'at least we beat India' card is not used again. Only the complete humiliation of a 0-3 performance in this tournament will possibly lead to an overhaul of Pakistani cricket from the top all the way down.

  • SMAS23 on June 11, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    hoping to see lots of changes in the line up for the future tours. Pakistan has extracted all the talent that Farhat, Malik and Akmal had. For heaven's sake let them enjoy their life and let us enjoy our beloved game.

  • on June 11, 2013, 17:43 GMT

    Where in the book it says that you use test format strategy in ODI? Misbah got the bad habbit of doing it. He will keep resisiting till the situation gets out of the hand. I am cent percent sure that Younis Khan can lead better than TUK TUK MISBAH. Whats the point of refreaining yourself from taking singles, even a 5 years old kid can figure it out. Misbah needs to learn that PLACE FOR EVERYTHING THING AND EVERYTHING IS IN ITS PLACE. Pakistan is out of champion trophy anyway and i hope that he will not use the same startegy against indians or else he should be ready for another humiliating defeat. It is quite funny that Pakistan is only playing with bowlers. Bowlers already proved themselves that they can bring any team in the world down to its knees. Westindies is a hell of example. SA failed many times infront of Pakistani bowling attack. I guess IQBAL QASIM needs to learn that Batting is also a part of cricket

  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 17:29 GMT

    Pakistan is going through the worst phase of their cricketing history. Misbah may think that he got some runs. But the important thing is that his rate of scoring was always so slow that Pakistan could never win a limited overs match with such batting.

    Also Malik, Farhat, Kamran & W.Riaz were Misbah's choices. So himself is to be blamed for the debacle. WHEN WILL THEY START THE PREPARATION FOR THE WORLD CUP 2015.

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  • factoryard on June 11, 2013, 17:06 GMT

    I'm from the west indies but pakistan is my # 1 team. I was hoping pakistan win the CT but i'm happy they are gonna be out. You can't win games with blockers, only god knows what umar akmal is doing home. He is the one guy who could lift the rate if needed.I know he gets out stupidly sometimes but that is after he gets a score,what about these guys we have here who eat up lots of deliveries for not much. Pakistan intent is wrong, too defensive minded, they try to defend first unlike other teams they try to attack first then if it's not there they defend. Pakistan had a good opportunity to send kamran to open against south africa to have a dash. I only hope they learn & not make the same mistake over & over again.

  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 17:04 GMT

    Mohammed Irfan bowled 7 overs for 27 runs with a wicket. Fantastic spell. But then what happened? Did Misbah forget Irfan. I mean everone thinks that as of today Irfan the the best pacer Pakistan has. Then why did Misbah put more faith in Wahab Riaz, even though he gave away 50 runs in 9 overs without taking any wicket. Just for PACE ? THATS HOW STUPID MISBAH IS. Even though the difference of pace between Irfan and Riaz is neglible. Also Irfan has the added advantage of bounce and also the mental advantage because of his imposing height and personality.

    Misbah is out of his head. The best thing for Pakistan cricket is to get rid of Misbah.

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  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 16:57 GMT

    I hope atleast now HARIS SOHAIL is selected in the next squad. . Also I Hope ASAD ALI gets a chance against india.

    I did not understand why Misbah was persisting with W.Riaz inspite of him being so expensive in the end. Was Mohammed Irfan injured? if not then what prompted Misbah not to use him inspite of the impressive figures?

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  • waqas34 on June 11, 2013, 16:21 GMT

    sluggish captain, pathetic selection, pathetic team, pathetic results (all round failure). I bet yaa we will not score more than 150 against india and they will kick our bud all around..Misbah should quit cricket and start playing soft ball, made the whole team sluggish so he can look good in the middle of the order and regain his honor. Idiot.

  • A.Ak on June 11, 2013, 16:09 GMT

    PAK has great bowling unit, awful batting unit with the exception of Misbah. Where are those attacking batsman which they have always managed to get?. For SA, batting seems to be a worry, again. With no Smith and Kallis, they dont look great. With Robin doing well with the bat, they might think of using DMiller up the order. Its a shame to see two good teams playing poor games.

  • malepas on June 11, 2013, 15:49 GMT

    All this is due to this defensive mindset which instill by Misbah/Coach school of thought,,and clearly this isn't working,u can't win an ODI by just being defensive and then let the lower order to cope with 8+ an over,,this is a failed tactics,,PAK should never play Malik-Farhet again,,Amin is not ready yet,This team desperately needs Umar Akmal's aggression in the middle order,only God knows why he is being overlooked again and again? Kamran still has lot of cricket in him but its unfair on him to look for score over 8+ every time he walks in to bat,why he is not batting at top where he has been most successful is just mind boggling.Why HAMMAD is not in the team? Younas and Asad should play in the middle, not sure about bringing back Afridi or Razzaq,we should look to the future and groom Hammad and let them play with more freedom, these guys are good enough, they just need a bit of confidence.

  • on June 11, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    So what's going to happen, Amin is going to learn a lesson and mentally decide never to drop Amla? Catching is almost reflexive, something you work on all the time with practice. Nobody decides to drop a catch, it happens. The only way to ensure to drop as few catches as possible is by practice and good technique.

  • roook on June 11, 2013, 14:59 GMT

    Pakistan is themselves are responsible for their average failures every batsman is playing for themselves in fear he may lost his place in the team. So if it take 100 balls to get his 50 it doesn't matter though he may secure his place in the team. With this mentality you may get individual performances but cannot win the matches. Pakistan management need to finalize the top 6 players which they want to retain till world cup and need to find good replacement for senior players. Hashim amla was great player because he is consistant and we need consistant players not player like shoiab malik, imran farhat which fails in 9 of 10 matches they play

  • pkfan_duh on June 11, 2013, 13:00 GMT

    Misbah and Nasir combined for 97 runs from 205 balls. That leaves only 95 more. Invitation to a loss against any team. I have some experience of 1st class cricket and we used to love slow batsmen on the opposing team and tried to let them hang around. But we were not as lucky as teams opposing Pakistan.

  • on June 11, 2013, 11:43 GMT

    Three left armers with all 140 above .. who made the oppoition bow in the previous match ans in the openinf match ... but where does the effort leads to when u have a lineup that is no good for years .. farhat is just a chit that is under consideration for no reason... hafeez performs only in t20 and that onedown spot is never fixed ... they play the bowlers as if they are afraid and alas jamshed always starts but falls in between no good senior player to back the talent ... the efforts are being ruined to demoralize the pacers .... we seriously need to produce batsmen else the bowlers are also going to bite the dust soon ..!! alas .. !!

  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 10:54 GMT

    @ AayAan0334 :- Completely agreed.

    Iqbal Qasim has given the worst possible team for the Champions Trophy. He should be sacked immediately. Otherwise he will send the same team or a similer team to the next World Cup. This pathetic performance is a failure of the selectors.

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  • rock.rockyin on June 11, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    I see only very few wise fans here.... whoever are asking to drop Misbah.. Kudos to you................ ! Misbah as a captain he has changed every batsmen into another Misbah's batting upfront where every batsmen goes into shell according to Misbah strategy and not catching up the RR & he comes at No 6 when the conditions are perfect to bat and with no expectations plays a test innings & scores the odd 50 runs or whatever and brings everyone into hallucination that he is the best batsmen for pakistan in present crop .. pak board has to wake up soon and immediately drop Misbah as captain and play him 3 down or show the doors to him. WHY NOT make AJMAL the captain and see how it goes...

    Cricinfo pls publish... Indian fan

  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 10:50 GMT

    Misbah was a temporary arrangement as a ODI Captain. Till then Afridi was doing fine as a Captain. When the Afridi - Waqar spat came in Public and it also involved Mohammed Ilyas, then the board started Looking for alternatives. There was none. So Misbah was a stop gap arrangement with Hafeez in mind for the long term prospect. The idea was to groom Hafeez in 1 or 2 years. But Now Hafeez's form has become so bad that Afridi is clearly better than him. Infact in the begining Afridi groomed Hafeez to be an all-rounder.

    Now by getting rid of Afridi you have two rubbish all-rounders in the team. Hafeez & Mallik. Add to that useless players like Farhat, Kamran, Riaz etc.

    This team is going nowhere.

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  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    Time to bring back Abdul Razzaq, Shahid Afridi, Harris Sohail, Asad Ali and Sarfraz Ahmed at the expense of Hafeez, S.Malik, (A.Shafiq/U.Akmal), W.Riaz and Kamran Akmal.

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  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 10:29 GMT

    I agree with many coments here that Harris Sohail & Fawad Alam, Liaqat, Asad Ali, etc deserved chances.

    We had enough of S.Malilk, Farhat, W.Riaz, Kamran. Better move on for a better future. Very Important to prepare for World Cup 2015. Even Hafeez's future appears to be bleak.

    I am sure no one wants to see Misbah in the next World Cup. So why persist with him now.

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  • on June 11, 2013, 10:26 GMT

    dat was a pathetic performance by batsmen. so mush defensive, you can see misbah in every batsman of Pakistan. this is the influence of a caipton on team. now every batsman is becoming the master of TUK TUK and I think misbah must be proud of it, the most aggressive team in the world becomes the most defensive team coz of one reason"your caipton misbah". when you are giving huge respect to slow bowlers who are actually part time bowlers like duminey and then you plan to hit McLaren. insane slow batting, bad planning and we group of guys have decided not to watch cricket at all until misbah resigns ODI as well. God bless you pak cricket and live long misbah the legend who for the last few years contributing huge by playing slowest cricket on dis planet.

  • Solid_Snake on June 11, 2013, 10:23 GMT

    @Harmony111->Harmony is it really you? Such kinds words for Pakistan team..Thanks man.. I am so glad to see Wahab getting his line straight..Bowling at 150 with great line is a gift.He should practice more & he'll dominate all.. As far as the exposure is concerned..How is India responsible here if Pak not getting enough matches..It isnt fair at all blaming India.. Best of luck for the 15th June..I have no hopes for Pakistan but still i would like to see them fight..If there is still a little bit of honour left in our batsmen,they'l perform..

  • Sambond007 on June 11, 2013, 10:05 GMT

    Its realy doing well in Pakistan In First half. But Amla is the only Batsman doing well in South africa batting line up. Without amala score the pakistan will win this match. The Only mistake missing amalas catch but it is a very difficult catch. And once again pakistan bolwing is very much attacking their facebowling and spin also. Its very crucial to pakistan and Southafrica also. But who can give their best in the pleasure situation they will get the best results. South africa batter not well. But their Bowlers doing trick once again in this match. Pakistan started their batting second that situation in any time they don't give their best all batsmen or going big shorts no one can be given their best. But misbaulhaq and Jamshed played. But its very late for their lost their own hands. The required rate is 5.25 but in any over they dont played very slow run rate. Its the minus point doing second batting they keep net runrate. But they dont do like that and they missing their wickets.

  • halflife13 on June 11, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    It was obvious from the squad selected for this main event, that Pakistan is not going anywhere in this tournament. When the team was selected the selectors said we have compiled the best player from the resources we have available at the moment. If this is the case and the selectors have faith in players like Imran Farhat , Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal then I this the best result we got here. The player like Abdul Razaq and Hamad Azam can replace at least one of the names mentioned above .These player got enough chances to prove themselves but if they can't perform in international cricket then they are telling something that we are not of international calibre. Yes all performed well in domestic cricket but the selectors have their international career in front of them but again these player got the chance in International cricket. I think selector and the management have think clear mind that what is wrong here.

  • AayAan0334 on June 11, 2013, 9:49 GMT

    iqbal qasim is responsible for selecting the team he should be sacked and misbah is also responsible for using his influence in the team selection . . . legend imran farhat should take retirement we don't want to see him in international arena again . . . and on what basis malik was selecting again and again in his last 30 innings his batting average in odi's is less than 20 even afridi have better average than him in his last 30 innings of 21.6 . . .ahmed shehzad , fawad alam , mohammad rizwan , haris sohail , hammmad azam should be included in the team . . . cricinfo plz publish my comment thanx

  • on June 11, 2013, 9:33 GMT

    all the batsmen failed apart from nasir and as misbah.As misbah said the batsmen that failed need to account for themselves and own up their failures. it might be prudent for the pakistani team to book there tickets for the flight home as the last match is also in birmingham and the airport is nearby.

  • black_bird on June 11, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    india will kick everyone out of this tournament. just wait guys. we will win everything!. this is the era of all time best india.

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT

    actually the NRR will come into play but three times will win 2 matches each and then two teams will qualfy for the semis

  • Harmony111 on June 11, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    I am an Ind fan but to see Pak losing like this does not please me one bit. Pak have always been a designer when it comes to the game of cricket. They taught us Reverse Swing and the Doosra & for these two reasons alone we all should be grateful to them. They have given us the Ws, Shoaib, Sarfaraz, Saqlain & leaders like Imran Khan & Inzi. Who can ever forget that WC 96 QF? Isn't that a classic? What about the 2 WT20 07 matches?

    Pak's batting needs steroids. I have never been Afridi's fan but Pak is missing him atm, or someone like him. I was mesmerized to see Riaz bowl @150 vs WI. Pity they had only 178.

    From Pak's PoV, this is the best they got. They get little quality cricket due to reasons well known. As always it the politics that hurts them and in turn all of us. Cricket is game of 10 nations and we need every one of us. It hurts me when some Pak fans blame Ind for Pak's lack of exposure. We'd love to play but safety is imp too after all.

    - A Sad Ind Fan. (Mods: Pls publish).

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:45 GMT

    I don't understand what's wrong with these team management, time and time again they keep on selecting those who don't really perform and drop those who can atleast give us hope (umar akmal,afridi,razzaq) of some performances.

    Until and unless the politicians don't interfere in the selection matters, nothing will be good for Pakistan cricket.. they should understand this is cricket and not their gully or muhalla work..

    Please change batting line up and give those deserving players a chance to perform even though they are inexperienced (Harris sohail and other talented kids). Atleast we can see Pakistan winning matches in future.. .

  • Sports4Youth on June 11, 2013, 8:44 GMT

    Misbah has no centuries in ODI's because he is too slow for the ODI format. But the time he gets to the 80,s or 90,s either the 50 overs are over or all his team mates are out.

    One reason of all his team mates getting out is that ealy on he plays so slow that the presure is always on the other batsmen to score quickly and that is why they perish. This is the reason why A.Razzaq & S.Afridi would always be under too much of pressure when they came to the crease.

    TO PUT IT SIMPLY MISBAH IS NOT FIT FOR THE SHORTER VERSION.

    All of Misbah's high scores have resulted in losses for Pakistan. When ever he has batted till the end Pakistan have always lost, look at all the world cup games, whether 20/20 or 50/50.

    BOOM-BOOM was doing just fine as a captain and player till the world cup 2011 under Waqar spoilt his career. Waqar disturbed him so much that Afridi lost his concentration. Waqar is the real culprit.

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  • on June 11, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    A perfect example of how a defensive leader can turn a naturally aggressive team into an bunch of individuals completely out-of-thoughts. He has brainwashed young minds of Pakistan Cricket with his over-defensive approach. He has made every batsmen think so much about their shots, that now their strenghts had been turned into their weaknesses. Misbah is doing biggest disservice to Cricket Pakistan.The flair and aggression we loved in Pakistan Cricket is disappearing quickly.

  • manazir.SL on June 11, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Experience of a cricket player is partially important, but consistency and the ability is always recommended to play for your national team..... Afridi, Razzak, Malik, U.Akmal, Younis and other guys should perform well somewhere to to get a place in the team, rather just waiting for failure of other players.... PAK supporters also need to think on this.... You can't recommend a player with their previous lifetime history only, you should follow on their recent form also...

    Those senior players are world class performers, I'm not a Pakistan citizen, still I'll support them, enjoy their cricket because they are unique...

    When players included for IPL teams final XI only team composition consider with players ability, lot of great name sit at benches. Those teams and players play cricket only based upon money....

    International cricket is totally different . Players should proud first to represent their country, they need to prove their self every time to keep the place...

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    pak is waste because dependeing on bowling

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:35 GMT

    What i should say after seeing the poor batting performance from pakistan team. Senior players showed no responsibility during the whole match. Shoib malik, what can i say about him, he is a great player and i think he should show his class in last match by playing attacking cricket but he disappointed us. Also why imran farhat is in the team he does not deserve the place in team and i think if we drop him last night instead of asad shafiq then may be result would be different. We are waisting the kamaran akmal talent by playing him at lower numbers if we put the past records then we will see that he is better player when he opens the inning so why did not u try him at open with nasir jahmshed. The main point of this discussion is that there is no attacking cricket is left in pakistan team because there was no attacking player in the team. Please include shahid afridi, umer akmal, abdul razzak and even younis in the team, they are best and best forever and Pakistan need them. Plzz Plzz

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    what a joke today from pakistan team they donot chase 235 over a weak bowling of sf where there was no steyn and morkel they should drop shoaib farhat and akmal and bring on the likes of shafiq u akmal and haris sohail

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:26 GMT

    Hahaha! I see all comments about Pakistan Team being in the game. To all Pakistani fans including me please accept the fact that Pakistan is going home. Game over! Team do not deserve to be in the game any more. From my side India, England, WestIndies , South Africa are favorites.

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:21 GMT

    The 25th ODI score of 50+ for Misbah, but no centuries till date. This does not do justice to his undoubted talent and calm bearing. However, the fact is that he is too good a man to keep down for long and his many fans will surely see the magic ton from his blade sooner rather than later.

  • mrgupta on June 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT

    @Aungshuman Zaman: Pakistan is Out if India Wins today not otherway round. If WI wins today then Pakistan has an outside chance with few more matches going their way. If India wins today then Pakistan is surely out no matter what happens in the tournament thereafter.

  • manazir.SL on June 11, 2013, 8:12 GMT

    I don't think there is much wrong done by PAK cricket board and selection committee, they always give good opportunities for their senior players, specially Afridi and Younis. those players receive highest payment also....

    The problem is at domestic level, players need to perform well and consistent to take place in national squad. Last series Umar Amin, I.farhat and E.Adhil performed well, so they selected to the squad.....In previous president Throphy only 11 matches result as drawn out of 46...clearly it was in lower side as those are 4 day matches.. (In latest Indian domestic season of Ranji Thropy 68/114 matches were drawn).

    Misbah may good and consistent on his batting, but he can't play leading role on a batting line up, because he always in defensive mode and limited with shots selections.

    For PAK you can't select players only based on their consistency. Need to identify players with special skills such good drivers and pullers or players who can effective to spin....

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:12 GMT

    I think pakistan board have to fire these cricketers who cannot perform good They have to do some aggresive decesion to make for better future of pakistan cricket

  • Solid_Snake on June 11, 2013, 8:12 GMT

    @mg_asim->One more thing..this is Eng....Not Asia where we would beat all other teams & reach the Semifinals.The main reason of our loss was the stupid selection & the batting order.We are playing with 4 opening batsmen.Nasir,Farhat,HAfeez & Kamran.Seriously which team have this many genuine opening batsmen like that.Akmal should have been there out as an opener.He simply is hand tied when he comes in lower order.Also the place of Hafeez is still questionable.He cant open well,he cant play well as one down,he cant play well lower down the order..What good he really is if he cannot bat in any given slot.What good is Farhat if he cannot play the new ball..This result was obvious from players like that.All the batsmen playing in the wrong slots.Strange selection..

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:06 GMT

    farhat n malik so many failures and still so many games these two play. may be this may be record. bring back Saeed Anwar as a Batting coach . After Saeed Anwar there is no player who can give great start to pak team

  • Solid_Snake on June 11, 2013, 8:03 GMT

    @mg_asim->Dude..A captain cannot act alone.What is the role of other 10 players if only Captain is to be blamed in the End..Tell me..Who is the highest runs scorer for Pak in CT?In bowling Pak dominated every time..They made a small target like hell for WI & then bowlers against SA were great as well.Only Batting did let down Pak team.What do you propose..Misbah should have been out there to bat 10 more times instead of other players?Hafeez,Farhat,Malik & Kamran all of them are not kids any more who would need batting tips.Misbah should be there as a captain.& all these Farhat,Malik,Kamran & Hafeez should be kicked out for good..Any youngster would do ,ore than enough than these so called "star batsmen" of Pakistan team

  • on June 11, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    I was frustrated with the constant failures of Afridi with bat and ball recently. I was even in favour of dropping him from the team. However, I now believe that just half of "Lala" can perform better than you and Malik combined.

  • Solid_Snake on June 11, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    Farhat,Kamran & Shoaib..These 3 are the liabilities for our team.I would include Hafeez in this list as well.Is he seriously a no 1 choice for next captain of Pakistan team?A guy who cannot play in Eng,SA & Aus. Having an Avg of 27 in ODI's..Even a mediocre batsman got better Avg than him.If PCB wants Pak team to win,they have to kick out Farhat,Kamran & Malik 'FOREVER'..Hafeez should also be kicked out.He acts all high & mighty in T20's.But when he plays ODI or tests,he acts as he dont know what Batting really is..I wonder if he is so much desperate to let down Misbah?Or is he having some other motive.He should be crushed with all his plaanings to set as an example for the rest of the players

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    I have heard too many things about Pakistan's bowling attack but failed to understand the greatness of the same.... I think the bowling attach of Pakistan is rated too much in spite of the fact that SA scored 234 although would have been a better total than this.... again SA bowled better than Pakistan to get them bowled out at 167 and credit should be given to their bowlers as well......I see the other teams are bowling equally well in overseas conditions may it be NZ, SL, WI , SA and not just Pakistan....

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    Pakistan is out if West Indies wins, because then the winner of WI vs SA will have more points than Pakistan could possibly have.

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    Why is the result being attributed to a single dropped catch? Of course, that was a crucial one, but when the margin of victory was as big as it was, the real issue lay elsewhere. If Amla's catch was dropped, as a compensation, A.B.D was run out after slipping on the grass as was the case with Duminy.

  • ravikb on June 11, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    If Ind win today, Pak are out and WI vs SA will be a virtual quarter-final.

  • SherjilIslam on June 11, 2013, 7:42 GMT

    Even at the time of selection I have predicted this result. Mindless selection of Farhat and Malik, over Razzaq and Umar Akmal caused this disaster for Pakistan. I felt really sorry for Pak fans who came in numbers to support their team and got let down by their batters again.

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:39 GMT

    yes they were poor but some coments from people that pakistan is eliminated , like its a big big thing. well they have reached all semi finals since 2007. and their wining streak of making it to ICC semi finals is ended at 6. so whats the big deal? Where as there are teams who win a final then fail to go to 2nd stage on next events.

    Pakistan paid the price of bad performance and got eliminated.

  • sachin_vvsfan on June 11, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    Man SA are still the favorites or one of the favorites to lift the cup. A big innings from Miller is just on the cards. As for pakistan their bowlers always have to live with the usual disappointment that their batsmen keep providing. I think they are virtually out of the tournament. They might play with hunger against us(like how they played last time) but winning with bigger margin is almost impossible.

  • mg_asim on June 11, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    this is the proof that, Misbah cannot lead Pak team, he is totally cool mind person, but captain need aggression, like waseem Imran, Afridi, but is open a tender for player and be quit, what is happening in ground he doesn't know, if you remember pak team in WC 2011, was not better then this team but afridi took him up to semifinal because of his own role, attitude and aggression, which misbah don't have. so let him to go, and be in rest last days of life.

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:27 GMT

    I can't help but wonder the scenario if India and Pakistan were undivided, like pre 1947. The superior batting line up of India, and the mighty bowling attack of Pakistan in one team would have been mind boggling.

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:26 GMT

    Failed to understand criticicm of misbah from some. he was top scorer, he is 39 but so energetic in field. captaicy ok. if batsman failed to do what can he do.

    same old will happen, all blame will fell on misbah, but farhat, malik, kamran will stay in team for ever.

    If they are failing to find batting wicketkeeper then kamran should be opening or no 3. he is worse batsman down the order than he is at top.

    Hafeez should bat down the order out side asia. yes he played at no 3 but technically he was out there within 1st few overs.

    they should bring in Ahmed shezad, even umar akmal ( he cant do more wrong than malik, farhat, umar amin ) haris sohail and hammad or any other medium pace allrounder in the team.

    One of asad shafiq or azhar ali in middle with misbah. Malik, farhat should be dropped now.

  • on June 11, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    Very poor from pakistan. i dont think its elimination looms, it is elimination. with margins of defeat i dont think they can make it mathematically.

    they have themselves to blame. totally went into shelves and the way most of them get out tells the whole story. the drop was a tough chance for amla it wasnt that simple but yes should have been taken.

    selection was a question mark, on what grounds imran farhat selected? in domestic event few months ago, ahmed shehzad was successful. what is shoaib malik doing.

    they selected 3 extra bowlers in squad but a single extra batsman who is umar amin which many think he doesnt belong to this level at all.

    kamran is IF in team should be opening / no 3. he is worse batsman down the order than he is at top.

    and the weak batting means PAK seriously need a medium pace allrounder to play as 3rd seamer. they cant go with full4 bowlers who hardly can bat, if problem with razak find hammad or some 1 else.

  • warneshane on June 11, 2013, 7:13 GMT

    Greatest_Game on (June 11, 2013, 0:54 GMT)

    Your observations are perfect. One of the best post written on this wall. I fully agree with you Sir!! PAKISTAN were travelling badly recently. Ireland had beaten in 1st ODI on 23rd MAY but lost thanks to Mr. Duck worth Lewis. Ireland had nearly won the second ODI. SA made 230+ against PAK is something like 325+ on that wicket. Why so much chaos of PAK excellent bowling? 275/5 scored by Irish on 23rd MAY 2013 against this so called excellent bowling spoke all about it. They are neither good in batting nor bowling.

    Only SA & IND find no problem in conditions & umpiring while batting. Team SA & IND are far ahead than reminders 6 travelers. They deserved to fight for Champion Trophy 2013.

  • Jayzuz on June 11, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    After seeing the two games played at Edgbaston, I am now horrified to learn that the final is going to be played there. I can't believe that they would play the final on a ground where the toss is basically going to decide the game, all things being equal. The pitch starts out reasonably paced but by the twentieth over is slow and by the time the second team bats it is almost impossible to score quickly. Just a very poor cricket wicket. A total shame for the competition that it will end at this venue. The only teams with a hope of winning batting second are those with big hitting openers, who can score at 10+ an over for the first half a dozen overs - and even then they will have to take big risks. After that it is all downhill fast - or should I say all uphill very, very slow.

  • Jda123 on June 11, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    Ignore the outcome of the next match.

    It has been decided who is leaving the international scene now from these last few games.

    Farhat, Malik and Kamran Akmal.

    People say Hafeez should be captain of ODI but I seriously don't understand why... He isn't the best of players... He score 3, 22, 60, 14, Very inconsistent player Hafeez is.

  • Bharath_the_Indian on June 11, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    At least now, after all these defeats all Pakistan fans should stop writing-off other teams, respect other teams... Peace..

  • mrgupta on June 11, 2013, 7:02 GMT

    Looks like the two neighbours India and Pakistan have Cricket teams that are exact opposite of each other. We have a good Batting Lineup but trash bowling, Pakistan has good bowling but pretty ordinary batting. It will be Fun to see Our batting against their bowling, actually otherway round too it will be Fun to see struggling Pakistani Batting against trash Indian bowling. Waiting eagerly for the Big clash!

  • Chaitu87 on June 11, 2013, 7:01 GMT

    I think Pakistan to some extent is facing the dearth of batsmen in their domestic circuit as did India with bowling sometime back. The reason primarily is due to the bowling greats the country had produced the youngsters seemingly have only bowling idols but not batting idols although they had greats like Saeed Anwar, Inzi bhai and of course Javed Miandad. Most of them seem to be making into the team due to the lack of alternatives rather than their own merit. Fielding has never been their strength and that is one thing almost all the teams have improved in the recent past. They need resurgence in their cricket otherwise the World will lose one of the better playing nations from the competition.

  • CricCrazzzy on June 11, 2013, 6:56 GMT

    Dav Whatmore & Misbah ul haq should concentrate on batting lineup & selection of players for batting especially. Kamran Akmal & Mohd Hafeez are geniune stroke player I think they should be in opening slot. Naseer Jamshed 3rd ,4th Misbah ,5th Shoaib Malik,6th Asad Shafiq ,7th Imran Farhat as he is a liablity in opening spot may be he can be a good finisher Like Suresh Raina,8th Wahab Riaz,9th Ajmal,10thJunaid,11th Mohd Irfan. On their next tour they should think of making their middle order strong as they have lot of options for opening. I think UMAR AKMAL is a best finisher he can bat on No.5 or 6. There should be a combination of YOUTH & EXPERIENCE IN MIDDLE ORDER.

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    dear fans, really feel sympathy for pak team.. even though am an indian I love to watch pak team playing around the world. I started this wen they lift d world cup under the great Imran.. from that day I love to watch dem play..greats like insamam,Akram,Younis,Waqar,Saqlain,Anwar, Ijaz..... But I feel that the current team dosnt have enough fire power in batting.. For me Misbah should come up d order like Ponting,Dhoni,Smith etccc.. to give more stability to their top order.. and he need to improve his strike rate also. If u c his past he only took Pak team near to Victory but not successsfull to give dem a win...

    Any way..... best of luck next time with the best bowling attack and the weakest batting line up....

  • Pathiyal on June 11, 2013, 6:39 GMT

    after the SA innings was over, i thought Pak did a fantastic job restricting them to 234. on a trickly wicket Misbah's batsmen withdrew themselves into their shells escalating the reqd run rate. hafeez' lack of form is failing their confidence and i thought they should have had afridi or umar akmal in the team to provide some sort of mental comfort for the initial batsmen. Having said that Hashim Amla is a winner in any form of the game and dropping him may lead to serious consequences. well played SA and better luck to Pakistan next time.

  • ronz2202 on June 11, 2013, 6:38 GMT

    Pakistan needs to immediately get rid of Kamran Akmal since we have so many young and talented keepers in the pipeline. Shoaib Malik needs to consider retirement along with Shahid Afridi. We need batsmen like Muhammad Yousuf and Younus Khan who come in at 1 or 2 down and take ownership of the innings. Alongside atleast 2 finishers like razzaq or umer akmal.

  • matchfixerpkn on June 11, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    Pakistan not started badly ..but when spinners and 4th seamer introduced they failed to increase the tempo..they failed to rotate strike even agianat spinner... remember how india played against s afrca...shikar dawan scored most of his runs in single and doiuble...same with kohli ,dhoni or dinesh kartik..but unforutunately all pakistnai players are either sloggers or defender..no one know how to run between wicket or to take single...... in 90 likes of minadand,salim malik , anwar etc are champions in milking the ball in middle overs...but now no one is capable..

  • AltafPatel on June 11, 2013, 6:36 GMT

    Still a lesson for SA though hidden by their victory. From strong position of 186/3, they lost deVilliers and Dumity as runout at crucial stage same against India. Learn Proteas learn...!

  • AltafPatel on June 11, 2013, 6:34 GMT

    McLarren is getting matured with bowl and bat and that has given tremendous support to middle and lower order. Miller still need chance to play long stable innings. Ingram should not miss his last chance in next match before Smith recovers.

  • TypeRiter on June 11, 2013, 6:30 GMT

    Words cannot express the disappointment TBH.

    234 is nothing in modern-day ODI's. Yes S.A bowled and fielded well - very well, but IMHO the failure to score 234 is Pakistan's inability to apply themselves and absorb the pressure of a chase. We all know this though.

    Please do not get me wrong, S.A were superb and performed like lions defending a low-score. But Tsotsobe and McLaren were made to look like demons (and Tsotsobe is, when there is a bit of movement about - but yesterday there was none), when infact they are medium (military in the case of Tsotsobe) pace bowlers.

    You cannot play out McLaren's first 2-3 overs for maidens. In trying to "settle-in" they all wasted too many balls without making a contribution.

    The Misbah stake-bearers need to back-up. He performs as a captain, fielder, and most importantly, a batsman, unlike many of Pakistan's recent captains who succumb to the pressure.

    Hafeez makes it in my team on bowling, otherwise he's prime for the chop.

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    Pakistan have not got batting talent ? Where Ahamed Shehzad, Shehzab Hassan, Sami Aslam, Azeem Ghumman , Haris Sohail, Usman Salahuddin, Naved Yasin, Fawad Alam,Sharjeel Khan. These players are very talented and consistent enough to be selected for pakistan team. Pakistan need to find world class batsmen like inzamam, mohamed yousuf. We can not make imran farhat , shoib malik as world class batsmen. Only giving chances to young players to play international cricket, we can find world class batsmen. We can not decide a player's suitability for international cricket unless giving them a chances to play international cricket. My suggestion is introduce some of these batsmen in a 5 ODIs match series and give them to play each of the 5 matches. giving 1 or 2 matches and dropping is not fare.

  • missionbegins2011 on June 11, 2013, 6:26 GMT

    PAK is out of the competition undoubtedly, there is no way WI will beat IND or SA, and no way that PAK will beat IND. For IND, beating PAK should be a piece of cake . IND and SA should sail through to semis from this group

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:24 GMT

    I dnt know why they select Farhat, Safeek and Malik????? best choices are Afridi, Razaq and Umer Akmal.........and Kamran was correct and his shot selection also correct, bcaz already they damaged the game so, he should come no1 or no 3.....

  • JanpreetSingh on June 11, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Pakistan batting now is an example too little and too late. They had once a superb batting unit comprising of Anwar, Sohail, Inzamam, Malik, Ahmed and now they are just a couple of guys who just can hold the bat. They need to invest in raw talent in batting since there bowling has never been a worry. But thats what you can call flip side of coin.

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:23 GMT

    Common u need match winners in your side who could win it on their own... Bring back razaq , Umar Amal and afridi. Pls throw imran farhat,shoiab Malik out ASAP

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:17 GMT

    One of the finest bowling attack with worst batting technique ! Point fielding was the defining moment in both innings : ***Pakistan (Umar Amin) dropped Hashim Amla at 7 (went on score match winning knock of 81). ***South Africa (Faf du Plessis) turned a certain boundary into a match winning catch (Kamran Akmal). ***Appreciate Misbah and bowlers who gave their very best. As for batting, less said the better - time for players like Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal and other upcoming talent to be given due recognition/chance - Pakistan have had enough of all the Farhats, Maliks, etc. If we select the team purely on merit, it's not all doom and gloom. We Shall Return ! Love Pakistan Cricket.

  • bharath74 on June 11, 2013, 6:10 GMT

    Kamran Akmal should have batted at 3, i cant believe that they are ignoring such gud talent.

  • Travian.Cricket on June 11, 2013, 6:08 GMT

    Pakistan needs to throw out Kamran Malik Farhat . We need to groom Nasir Jamshed so that he builds up a temperament to stick out till the 30-40th over . Get Umar Akmal instead of Malik and Asad Shafiq instead of Umar Amin. Bring back someone like Razzaq or a similar player who knows how to finish a game off .

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    I think its foolish to blame misbah for his selection because he dont have enough options umar amin,asad shafiq are all good talents but i think his they dont know how to face and play against strong teams in their environment.they lack self confidence, they are missing motivation from their coach and the captain.Pakistan conducted a camp for their fast bowlers under wasim akram just before the champions trophy does their conducted any camps for their batsmen. Just take example how ravindra jadeja and rohit sharma is playing their started their international career in subcontinent when they played in england and australia they struggled,but team management kept faith in them now look their performance after 4 years. like wise its up to the PCB to groom umar akmal,amin shafiq.

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    @ Ignatius Dias Pkaistani bowling line up looks good only agaiinst club level batting line ups like WI, SL , scotland and neterlads

  • arunmp3 on June 11, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    Leaving alone the temperament , Pakistan batting lacks the fire power as well, apart from misbah it seems noone can has the ability in current line up to clear the boundries against internation bowling attacks...............

    bowling is way good , only change they can make is bring in umar gul to offer more variety among the current three pronged "leftie" seam attack........

    i think either of razzaaq or afridi shud be in the line up if not both they are the ones which opposition fear , shoib neither scores boundries nore rotates he just waste balls to mount pressure on others

    my lineup would be 1) nasir 2) kamran akmal 3) asad shafiq 4) azhar ali /younis khan 5)misbah (pack with solid players in middle before unleashing ) 6) afridi 7)razaaq/umar akmal 8) wahab riaz 9) junaidkhan/ umar gul 10)saed ajmal 11)muhammad irfan

    likes of hammad asam shud be given chance as well, pak does well when they hv strong batting finish frm afridi or razaaq .......

  • on June 11, 2013, 6:04 GMT

    Strike rotation is the major success factor in ODIs. Not a single batsman in pakistan, try to sneak the singles. Lot of dot balls made 234 even bigger. If you are not in form, sneak a single some where.. Misbha's batting position was terrible... His career sr is 76 and came to bat when team requires almost 6 / over...If Misbha wants to steady the ship; he has to bat at 3 not at 5..

    A target of 235 against in experienced attack with new fielding instructions should be cake walk for any other teams.. But poor application cause the match...

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    Reality of so called Great and Talented pakistani batting lineup - They have now been bowled out within their 50 overs in seven of their last 12 ODIs.

  • somethingdifferent on June 11, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    Have a look at the records (since June 2012) of these players. Can PCB justify their selection ! Farhat: runs 380 ave 28.25 sr 59.47 Hafeez: runs 448 ave 23.38 sr 83.48 Malik: runs 288 ave 24.44 sr 76.39 kamran: runs 255 ave 18.92 sr 89.02 riaz: runs 290 wkts 5 ave 58 eco 6.17

    With such team selection, these losses should not be a surprise for anyone. If PCB cares for the honor and prestige of the country one bit, they would get rid of these players immediately and select good deserving players instead.

    How many of you, really expect PCB to get rid of them ?

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    I made a comment even before the tournament started that by the time India playas pakistan, pakistan will be already out of tournament. Wasn't a rocket science predicting that as teams are playing as per their ranking (except australia).

  • Sunil_Agarwal on June 11, 2013, 5:47 GMT

    @Selfishkar: "Worst cricket team in the world: Indian bowling and Pakistani Batting." - Remember that the Indian bowling attack skittled the Aussies out for 65 only a few days ago. How pathetic are the Aussies then?

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    I think with misbah as a captain and as a player is the biggest draw back pak team has. he should be dropped as a captain and as a player than only there are chances of improvement in pak team else they wil loose all the games if misbah is there in the team,so drop misbah from the team and bring Rajjak, Afridi and Hammad Azam than only they gonna chase any total opposite team will put on.Dropping Afridi is the biggest blunder Misbah and team management has done.

  • masood69 on June 11, 2013, 5:44 GMT

    Wrong selection brought this result. why Razak was dropped? still he has lot of cricket. he can make a big difference on English soil. world cup 1999 is the proven track of Razzak success. Razak inclusion would be strengthen the bowling attack (slow seam bowling in english condition) also bring more middle order batting strength. Imran Farhat is useless he is never a good batsman see his ave. same about Shoib Malik his cricket is over. Asad shafiq has sound technique. no matter in one match he could not score doesnt mean u should drop him and bring Umar Amin( No comparison) Asad should be give more chance to get more confidence. look at Inzimam. despite of initial failure,Imran shown his confidence in Inzi and world had seen a very solid batsman in world of cricket. I know nothing is going to happen the selection committee will work is same pattern. and Pakistan cricket needs another strong skipper like IMRAN

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    It's better that Pakistan fly back to home as they don't deserve a spot in semis after their valuable performance in two matches. Misbah fought like a champion but the team he got did little to his cause. Imran Farhat, Shoaib Malik , Kamran Akmal should not play again ever. I am sure after few months these losers will represent Pakistan again as our selectors are too dumb to select new blood for the team. If they had Umar Akmal, Ahmed Shehzad, Hammad Azam,Asad Shafiq no matter what will be the outcome people look forward to get better results in future. Current team is a disappointment............ Long Live Pakistan

  • sherishahmir on June 11, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    Sad to see Pak performances in last two matches, Pak who started the CT as favorites have almost eliminated from the semis depending upon today match if WI beat India and also in the last Grp matches Pak beat India and WI also beat SA. Problem is our Batting which become chronic and need major surgery by cutting permanently bad organs like K Akmal, Imran Farhat and many more who r waiting their turn like Afridi, Imran Nazir. In the comments people r writing about Afridi come back, please realize Afridi career is over, though Razak omission is blunder still he can do a lot for the team when Misbah/Ajmal can play in their old ages he can too with the fact he is single handed match winner. For us as a consolation to beat India is must not only for pride but also to put smiles on Pak England based fans.

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:34 GMT

    Well to be honest don't bring Afridi , Razzaq , Imran Nazir etc...We have young talent bring them.Selectors should consider Hammad Azam , Sami Aslam , Babar Azam , Umar Akmal , Ahmad Shehzad. Hammad is a good hard hitter put him in place of Shoaib Malik. But the most important thing which i consider is that we should get rid of People like Intikhab Alam , Iqbal Qasim who are regularly in PCB.They are not contributing anything and the chairman pcb should be a former test crickter not anyone like Ijaz Butt , Zaka Ashraf etc. Look at our bowling we have world class attack and some good young talent like Ehsan Adil , Asad Ali is still waiting on the bench , this is the competition we have in our bowling ,Similarly we require it in our Batting.

  • y4yoga on June 11, 2013, 5:32 GMT

    I Believe pakistan's chance of reaching semifinal is over by yesterday and will be officially confirmed by today

  • Hira1 on June 11, 2013, 5:24 GMT

    I feel so sorry for Misbah he is the lone one fighting with his batting and fielding but than he has to blame himself as he is equally responsible for selecting such a batting lineup, and I dont agree that Pak batting is now the best, Saeed Ajmal is getting more predictable now and Junaid lacks wicket taking stills. Well Pak is almost out of the contest so they should plan forward and first thing they need to do is to get rid of David Whatmore and hire Mohsin.

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:23 GMT

    I am an Indian and I never supported Pakistan. But today let me tell the whole world that their bowling unit is one of the best. I hope they will improve their batting too.

  • raihan927 on June 11, 2013, 5:21 GMT

    So people have started thinking about AFRIDI again who hasn't done anything in past 2 years and moreover not consistent at all.All we need to do is to eradicate all these senior players and bolster our team by injecting youngsters.Bowling attack is doing pretty well and we can't expect more.They have put every batting lineup in trouble including India in India.Haris Sohail,Hammad Azam,Ahmed Shahzad ,Fawad Alam,Asad Shafiq,Nasir Jamshed should be used as batsman.

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 5:16 GMT

    @samincolumbia Agree with you mate that both kenya and bangladesh should be there in place of sri lanka and pakistan. Both SL and Pak should be put into a qualifier round along with netherlands and scotland before playing with big boys.

  • HennopsRiverEnd on June 11, 2013, 5:12 GMT

    The same fans who were calling for Younis Khan's head now want him back. How all the neutrals knew that the Pak team will miss him. With that said, good bowling attack I must say.

  • Electric_L0ser_Wacko on June 11, 2013, 5:10 GMT

    Well..the writing was on the wall..yet somehow I felt that pk should ve been able to topple SA...as they have the tendency to pull off impossible victories like in the past...but I was proved wrong. This batting lineup is not even club standard just our(ind) bowling lineup. So its time to say goodbye..the last match between ind vs pk should be dead rubber. But will still be a hard fought match..great game on card! !!!!..better luck next time pk...oops there is no next time with CT..cheers from india.

  • on June 11, 2013, 5:03 GMT

    Imran farhat, umar amin, shoaib malik, asad shafiq don't have the ability to play for Nederland, Ireland even scotland. and pakistan are with them to win ICC trophy. Put in players like umar akmal, ahmad shehzah who has the ability to score runs against big teams. They will fail but when they will play they will win you the match. But these farhats or amins will never win you a match as they lack the ability.

    To win a match you need to put pressure upfront. not play test upfornt. put kamran in at no. 2. bring back umar akmal and hammad and shehzad. put hafeez down the order in seaming conditions. bring hard hitters back. this is the only way you can win a match.

  • NoorusSabbahKhan on June 11, 2013, 5:01 GMT

    the best bowling line up with the worst batsmen on the tour:s Afridi, Razzaq and Umar Akmal should have been there instead of these useless players like Farhat, Malik and Kamran Akmal.

  • Nizamsl on June 11, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    I think this is the time for team change. Because lot of players waiting list. Specially we want to change openers. Nazir is inform player, and farhat I can't tell. farhat not been cricketer. he can play soft ball other wise he can't play hard ball. and Shoib malik and kamran also stop the next game, and we can use safiq and another choice. Afridi and umar akmal shezaat good selection for WI tour. these changes very important for pak team.

  • Hate.ME on June 11, 2013, 4:56 GMT

    Being an Indian Fan, I admire Pakistan's bowling. And I'm sure every Cricket Fan does. But Pakistan Batting has always let down Pak Bowlers and fans.

    I don't get it despite Shoaib Malik and Farhat's continuous failures why they get selected every time.

    Umar Akmal no matter how bad PCB thinks he is, needs to bat in middle order. If Kamran is the best wk-batsman in Pak then he can be best utilized at No. 1 along with Jamshed. Hafeez scores only in sub-continent. Make him play @ No. 4 or 5 when ball doesn't talk much.

    And look for new talent in domestic circuit. During last Under-19 WC, 2 Pak batsmen were really impressive. Don't remember their names exactly..may be Sami Aslam and Babar. They can be tried too.

  • on June 11, 2013, 4:48 GMT

    Pakistan's overall outlook wasnt looking good right from the first match of the scotland tour.They hardly put any note worthy performance matches in those side matches.They barely managed 232 against scotland and defeted ireland just by the stroke of luck.Coupled with the fact there were some serious selection blunders on part of the selection management.If Afridi was dropped on basis of his poor form then how selectors can justify selection of Imran Farhat,Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal.Bowling performances were good but it was always the case of brittle batting order.Misbah-ul-Haq was yet again Pakistan's lone ranger but he lacked support from everyone except Nasir Jamshed.

  • on June 11, 2013, 4:38 GMT

    Something wrong with points table. RSA should never be at 3rd position. It shows 100 overs on "for" and "against" for proteas. Points table fixing here.....

  • on June 11, 2013, 4:37 GMT

    Come on PCB.... kick out Farhat, Malik and Kamran from the team... we don't need these kind of players.... bring Afridi, Razaq and Rizwan/Adnan Akmal in believe me they are far much better than current Pakistani batsmen...

  • on June 11, 2013, 4:29 GMT

    Put Kamran at top if they want to continue with him. Send Hafeez to 5-6th position, as he is much better at 20-20 level so he will perform there with old balls. Send out Imran farhat, Shoaib & Omar Amin (Techinically he is not that good) & as all said bring in Razzak, Umar akmal, Hamad Azam & Afridi

  • CricSpirit on June 11, 2013, 4:26 GMT

    Hearing so much about Pakistan for last couple of weeks saying that they have best bowling attack in the world and the favourites of the tournament but still could not beat WI or SA in the Group. And now to beat a strong Indian team and get qualified with superior net run rate which is crazy.

    They are paying the price for not including Umar Akmal & Shahid Afridi who are there big match winners. I think Pakistani Commentators & Ex Players should first wait for the team to win matches before boasting about there team.

    It is Hallarious....

  • Meherdeen on June 11, 2013, 4:18 GMT

    I agree with Mr. Baig. Except for Misbah,Jamsaid and the 03 Bowlers all the others must be replaced as soon as possible to avoid any more damages to the Pakistan national Team.

  • on June 11, 2013, 4:12 GMT

    Once again Pakistan have proved two failings. One, their bowling is far more consistent than their batting. Second, that they are poor in chasing any score batting second.

  • samincolumbia on June 11, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    I am surprised Bangladesh is not there in the CT. If Sri Lanka could make it, Bangla should have been there since they are more talented than SL.

  • sachinisawesome on June 11, 2013, 4:11 GMT

    @Chandana Fonseka Please enlighten us when is your team going to win. Or you have lost all the hope.

  • g.narsimha on June 11, 2013, 4:05 GMT

    chandanafonseka-just disgusting ,instead of dreaming INDs elimination u rather worry on u r team, just cant beat lowly placed NZ, reg PAK beating IND any thing can happen in cricket but u r not playing in subcontinent where PAK won most ot its matches vrs us but outside ASIA its IND always .

  • safiullah.asifi on June 11, 2013, 4:02 GMT

    Sorry team Pakistan, I cant see any talented batting order in Pakistani team. Shameful if a team skipper cant have a century in almost 120 matches how other players could learn from his batting... funny to see always many changes in the selection of batsmen by PCB.

  • on June 11, 2013, 4:02 GMT

    i think pak has no time to observe there bating why there stil taking this bating line up akmal should bat at top of the orderbec it makes him comfoprtable pl bring back afridi razac umar akmal that make pakistan to get some relife in there bating line up bec pak has no allrounder in this tourniment

  • shani222 on June 11, 2013, 4:00 GMT

    it is the high time to get rid of the continiouly failed batsman Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik and to bring a permanent batting couch

  • ziddu on June 11, 2013, 3:59 GMT

    @ Chandana Fonseka - What about SL? Do you think SL is going to make the next round with equally fragile batting lineup save for Sanga.

  • GRVJPR on June 11, 2013, 3:54 GMT

    Comments here shows that pakistan has no batting talent left. They are talking baout retired razzaq, afridi etc back into the team while India have left out 7 of their world cup players and new players have taken to international cricket like fist to water.

  • Ali752 on June 11, 2013, 3:42 GMT

    although now pak can not completely change the batting line up due to limited amount of good players who are already tested, surely they can not keep malik and farhat in the side after all this. bring back unpredictability and aggression. so pak can win 5-6 games out of 10. with this negative batting line up they'll lose every match and everyone knows it! its very predictable. bring back afridi, u.akmal, A.razzaq/Hammad Azam to balance the side! many people dont like afridi anymore but surely he is capable of miracles and also would have performed better than farhat and malik. K.Akmal is an opener so he should always open with jamshed. they both need to play aggressive at the top thats when pak does well. the right selection should have been = 1.Akmal 2.Jamshed 3.Hafeez/Ahmad Shezad 4.Misbah 5.U.Akmal/A.Shafiq 6.Afridi 7.A.razzaq/Hammad 8.Riaz/A.rehman 9.Ajmal 10.Junaid 11.Irfan. That mixes aggression with solidity and also miracles can happen! it can be unpredictable no doubt.

  • ProteaMan on June 11, 2013, 3:28 GMT

    AAAHHH the sweet taste of winning!!

  • on June 11, 2013, 3:26 GMT

    Pakistan supporters do not have to worry. West Indies will beat India, and South Africa will beat West Indies. Then all Pakistan has to do is beat India and all the frustration over these two losses will be erased by the joy of taking India out of the competition with you ...

  • Ali752 on June 11, 2013, 3:23 GMT

    K.Akmal is an opener, he likes playing shots against fast bowlers when the ball is hard so thats why he keeps getting out when he has to come in at No.7 under pressure... pakistan dominated the 90's thrashing all teams most of the time because they had aggressive batsmen to help the legends of pak bowling. although the bowling is still good enough to beat all teams the batting is the worst ever! this result was predictable cos pak didnt have aggressive and unpredictable batsmen. the selection was all wrong and pcb keeps doing it again and again! giving chances to useless players malik and farhat. while U.akmal, afridi, A.razzaq, Hammad azam are sitting at home. pak needs aggression now more than ever and these players needed to come in and balance the side with misbah's solidity. there is also still time to bring back M.yousaf, another aggressive batsman with high average. the statement "stop selecting old n used trash" does not apply to yousaf as we all know what he does when he plays

  • India_Rules_Everybody on June 11, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    As an Indian fan, I will say this that it was absolutely shameful for the Pakistani fans to boo their own team at the ground. Yes, they gave a bad performance and yes they threw water over many expectations but I have no doubt they gave in their 100%. If those people who booed played such good cricket themselves then try n qualify for the national team and then we all can see how good of a player you actually are. Have some respect for the players who are representing your country.

  • Ali752 on June 11, 2013, 3:02 GMT

    selection was all wrong and this was predictable as everyone is saying pak has the weakest batting line up no doubt but better selection would've improved the results. this current pak batting line up can make any bowler look good! this same batting line up has been struggling to make 200 before this tournament. we are all sick of malik and farhat, at least afridi and umar akmal can pull off miracles and thats what makes pak unpredictable but this time very predictable. afridi plays well in england and he also played well in SA so he would've done better than these useless players malik and farhat. Also this was not the right time to test umar amin! not in this short tournament! Azhar Ali or asad shafiq should have played this match. this was a really bad selection and results predictable! atleast when you have K.Akmal, Jamshed, Hafeez, U.Akmal, Misbah, Shafiq, Afridi in top seven the results can be unpredictable and its the right balance but with the current line up pak had no chance

  • on June 11, 2013, 3:00 GMT

    NP_NY! All of us are wondering that how did a player like Imran Farhat made it? It is quite shocking for all of us that he was in the squad. I already said it three weeks ago that I will be surprised if Pakistan will win its first match. Just pay attention on our batting order. Do you really think those players deserves to be in Pakistani team. I can give you the name of four top order batsmen who shouldn't be in the squad at the first place.

  • Muzammil_Baig on June 11, 2013, 2:50 GMT

    I deeply wish that India best PAK by the margin of 300+ runs so that we can have best possibility for a clean up operation in batting that can get rid of Farhat, Malik, Kamran and also Hafeez. A die heart lover of PK cricket NOT this PAK team. Cricinfo plz publish this

  • on June 11, 2013, 2:48 GMT

    KC69! At this point, we don't have any option rather than bringing them back. Razzak is hell of a all-rounder and Afridi can raise the hell any time. Younus is much better player than Imran Farhat, Akmal, Shoaib Malik and umer amin. I hope PCB will come up with some wise decisions. In case if Pakistan plays with the same team then most likely Indian will toast us.

  • on June 11, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    Same ole story! When will PCB cronies wake up? I am sick of looking at failures like Farhat, Malik and Akmal again and again. Can someone tell me why a new talent like Asad Shafeeq was sacrificed for say Malik? In the last to matches all top order batsmen let the team and country down, minus Misbah. he led from the front in batting and fielding.

  • jimwhatever on June 11, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    Actually what batting is this. Ireland's batting is very much far better and more organised. Pak have the best bowling unit. but their batting is senseless.

  • on June 11, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    25th ODI 50 for Misbah, yet no centuries till date. That must be a worrying issue for him.

  • on June 11, 2013, 2:40 GMT

    Looks like Pakistani batsmen will never learn the art of good batting. Occasionally they do good batting when weather is good, ground and pitch conditions are suitable as per their liking. They never have a Plan B or Plan C when Plan A fails. Our batsmen get mesmerized by the opponent bowlers and fielders.

  • Shan156 on June 11, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    @Optic, Excellent summary. Most people outside Eng. don't follow Eng. and watch them only in the global tournaments where, it has to be said, we have been poor. Other than that, we have done well in bilateral series. The only series that we have lost in our last bilateral series are vs NZ at home, Ind. and Aus. away. We also drew our home series against SA. That is not just a good record, it is a very good record. Definitely good enough to be considered consistent. Yet, it is sad that we are dismissed as a poor ODI side.

    @Cpt.Meanster, I never meant that you were an Eng. hater. Based on your previous posts, you don't come across as someone who would think highly of Eng. So, when you mentioned that you think we will progress to the semis, it came as a surprise.

  • alamsville on June 11, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    a shameful performance. i took the time off to watch the game. SA score was easy, but at the very start, during the first over when imran farhat was clueless, my heart started throbing and lo in the second over mr farhat who amazes the entire nation regarding his constant selection in the team inspite of his pathic performance was clean bold. does he not have a self respect or a sense of responsibility that he himself should leave a game that he cannot learn or play. but in reality i also quit watching it when hafeez was out. the whole team is below par in batting. what happened to pakistan when we produced hanif, zaheer abbas, javed miandaad, saeed anwar, and inzamam. shame on PCB, shame on selectors and shame on these players.

  • siddhant328 on June 11, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    I always knew this was going to happen with Pakistan. They were formidable against Irish and that was a clue to judge. But all optimistic Pakistani fans and few senseless experts were proposing them as Top contenders. No way. I knew it would be a miracle if Pakistan enters Semis even. South Africa played well. They controlled the game exceptionally for 90 overs. They looked bad only in 10 slog overs of their innings.

  • on June 11, 2013, 2:26 GMT

    For the first time i am prayinf for an Indian win against Pakistan that too by a huge margin. This so called International team does'nt deserve a single win. Pathetic!

  • YogifromNY on June 11, 2013, 2:26 GMT

    I know this is the stuff of fantasy, but think what a team we would have if we were to make a sub-continental XI for international events instead of two teams Ind and Pak: one that combined Ind's batting and Pak's bowling. That team would be unbeatable and would, I will bet, bring the people of these two divided countries together like nothing else could! From an Indian fan based in the US.

  • squarepeg on June 11, 2013, 2:23 GMT

    RSA showed real class, winning easily without Steyn, Morkel and Kallis. Pakistan could have won this match had one of their top three batsmen stuck round for a while. Shoaib Malik is much better player than possibly even he realises. But the lack of class batting is sad to see in a team that once bristled with huge talents. Politics in PCB must be blamed for this state of affairs.

  • on June 11, 2013, 2:12 GMT

    I'm sorry, this is not an international level batting lineup -- wth is Hafeez, Shoib, Farhat etc doing at this level ? They have only 1.5 batsmen lol ...and bowling is not great either...

  • Green_Team on June 11, 2013, 2:00 GMT

    Thanks for your supports guyz . . I'm not sad by Pak. batting performance because I Pre Expected this Performance .I knew that Pak team selection was not Good . I guess selectors' eyes would open after this disastrous performance by this batting line up . . Hope they will drop all those batsmen, who don't know how to play swing or how to play team . . .I'm still expecting a win against India because they play against arch rivals absolutely different than other team . . . Best of luck both Pak n Ind for their Match !

  • SouthPaw on June 11, 2013, 1:47 GMT

    I didn't see Umar Amin dive! In fact the television coverage showed & discussed the errors that he made - of not having both feet grounded, eyes not on the ball, etc. Moonda - you need to get your facts right if you want to write.

  • on June 11, 2013, 1:28 GMT

    Why is Abdul Razzaq not picked in the Squad?

  • Bharath_the_Indian on June 11, 2013, 1:17 GMT

    Pakistan simply doesn't have the batting line up to win international tournaments

  • Mumraiz on June 11, 2013, 1:10 GMT

    Dropping Younis and Afridi on the basis of their performances and selecting Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik on the same is appalling. If the selectors were really concerned about the performances then none of the above mentioned players should have been picked.

    Thus, I humbly request Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik to thank the selectors for their unjust selection when the likes of Ahmed Shehzad, Umar Akmal, Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq have been dropped or not being given as many chances as they are getting.

    Misbah is also guilty of the same because the way he plays, he needs to have someone down the order who can accelerate the run-rate which umar akmal, afridi, and razzaq were capable of. Misbah the team selection doesn't suit your playing style - so please either bring some changes in the selection of players or change your playing style. We don't need your fifties at the strike rate of fifty if they are good-for-nothing.

    I know my plea's will neither reach them nor acted upon :-(

  • Selfishkar on June 11, 2013, 1:09 GMT

    Worst cricket team in the world: Indian bowling and Pakistani Batting.

  • on June 11, 2013, 0:59 GMT

    Pakisthan's batting failure wouldn't have surprised many. With the best Bowling unit of the Tournament; I thought they might overcome the negatives in their batting; but sadly, they couldn't. With my limited Cricketing knowledge, what I feel is, they should bring some firepower in the middle-order as well as Opening. The young Ahmed Shehzad must be getting chances to open the innings with Mohammed Hafeez, as a long term plan. Then Nasir Jamshed must come at number 3. Misbah must be at 4 and Shoab Malik at 5; Then bring back Umar Akmal at 6. He is a serious talent and he deserves a place and bring some fire power at the middle-order. I don't think Kamran Akmal deserves a place. He should be replaced with someone who could hit the ball out of the park easily and pretty good at running between the wickets; at number 7. Then the bowlers. I think, the Politics and may non-cricketing factors affecting the selection of Pak team; which is pretty sad.

  • Greatest_Game on June 11, 2013, 0:54 GMT

    @ Landl47. I don't see the logic in your posted statements.

    Against Pakistan, the Windies limped home, making 172 - 8, yet SA went past 172 with 3 wickets down, & ended 234 - 8, making 62 more runs. This would seem a big enough score to beat WI, is more than both NZ & SL scored, & yet you claim "SA really didn't get enough runs to beat anyone but Pakistan."

    Despite having a debutante in their now 4th string attack, SA limited Pak to just under the score that WI did with their 1st choice attack, and scored 30% MORE runs than WI did against Pak's attack. Yet, somehow you conclude "It looks as though India and WI will qualify from this group.

    SA, has had better results than WI, are close to regaining their key strike bowler, (acknowledged by most as the world's best,) & scored the 2nd highest innings total in the tournament to date, just 26 less than India managed against SA's 3rd string attack.

    It seems you underestimate South Africa.

  • Sudhir65 on June 11, 2013, 0:47 GMT

    What was cricinfo's pick of Pakistan as Title favorites based upon? They had almost lost both matches to Ireland.

  • TheBigBoodha on June 11, 2013, 0:39 GMT

    The team batting second on this surface has a real bum deal. This track just gets slower and slower with every over (and every game) till runs become almost impossible to score. The only way the team batting 2nd has a hope of winning is to bundle out the team batting first - preferably for under 200, and preferably before 40 overs are bowled. Reminds me of the T20 final track in SL, where the pitch just died. A clear 75/25 advantage to batting first. The ball comes on to the bat in the first 15-20 overs of the first innings, so teams with power hitters up front can pretty much have the game won by the 20th over of the game if they bat well. Not what I'd call a great cricket wicket all up, as the toss basically decides the game, unless the team batting first really mess up or bowl really badly in the second innings. I sure hope none of the semis or the final are played here.

  • washingtonindian on June 11, 2013, 0:38 GMT

    Just like i predicted yesterday, No wins for Pak this champion's trophy....

  • on June 11, 2013, 0:32 GMT

    The way Pakistan is loosing is really annoying. The comments of Harmony 111 make great sense. PAK has given more to the cricketing world more than any other country. But I see Pakistan as the only country who couldn't find an opener for 13 years. Every other country lost there great openers too but found a good replacement. Case of Pakistan is after SAEED ANWAR they simply couldn't find an opener. As long as they find a classy, reliable as well as attacking opener like Anwar, this batting struggle will continue.

    Fan from Sri Lanka

  • Siva_Bala75 on June 11, 2013, 0:27 GMT

    The IPL has taught the batters the value of a 'dot ball'. Batters play the next balls with that much more responsibility to compensate for the 'dots'. It is time Pakistan batters, I am sure times will change and a couple of them at least will win in auctions, play the IPL to play the 'International cricket' better. Re. their bowlers, oh....they are gold

  • on June 11, 2013, 0:23 GMT

    misbah is unsuitable for limited overs, he was batting today as if he had a lifetime to make the runs. his approach to the game put an enormous amount of pressure on the other batsmen. how did he come to captain a limited overs side. time for him to go. i hope he is packed.

  • on June 11, 2013, 0:23 GMT

    On South Africa: 1. Lopsy was, after all, not a Lopsyded selection. 2. Do n't say that McLaren &Morris did not benefit from IPL. At least it kept them match fit. Their improvement in effectiveness is something every one will not agree with me. On Pakistan: 1. What can I say about Misbah - One of the most underrated "cricketer" in the world, in every sense of the word -- on the field & off the field. 2.Lack of support to Misbah in one match is understandable. If players are "consistent" in that incontestably, it is time for selectors to introspect -- Pak is a perpetual nursery of good cricketers. The pickers should know how to pick. 3. Like thier brothers from India & SL, Pak players also seem to take more time to adapt.For example,many still play leaving a big gap between bat and pad -- in swing England? And pay the price!

  • Un_Citoyen_Indien on June 11, 2013, 0:12 GMT

    Pakistan has missed a trick here by not playing Younis Khan. He, being the technician that he is would've prospered on these wickets. Also, Razzaq should've been here, for his enormous experience if nothing else. Lastly, it's shocking how an awesome talent like Umar Akmal is being wasted by Pakistani Cricket.

    I never could figure this out and yet, Pakistan have done this CONSISTENTLY through their history: They had the world's best off spinner (Saqlain Mushtaq, who is credited with inventing the 'doosra') and yet they never played him on a regular basis after 2001 when he was in the prime of his career. They had one of the most prolific bats in World Cricket in Mohd. Yousuf, yet they ended up severely under-utilising him over the course of his career. So also with Wasim and Waqar, who should've played many more matches together.

  • on June 11, 2013, 0:06 GMT

    Mohammed Hafeez, Imran Farhat, Kamran Akmal should be dropped and never be alloewd to play in ODI's again. Imran Farhat has no business in this team at any format. Paksitan batting is a bloody joke, disgraceful team. Bowling is as good as ever. How is 235 not an achievable target? Pakistan batting has always been a joke but right now its worse than ever. Pathetic, absolutely pathetic. Hafeez should take alot of blame today. What sort of a pull shot was that? Who does he think he is? Utterly disgusting performance.

  • on June 11, 2013, 0:03 GMT

    PAK fans think that their best batsman is misbah who is highly over-rated and he is yet to score an ODI hundred even after playing more than 100 matches(wow what a great player)...but again u can't fault PAK fans because their team is full of average batsmen like akmal,malik,hafeez,asad shafiq who gets out for single digits and misbah is their only player who gets double digits scores at the strike rate which even boycott wudn't be proud of.....cricinfo pls publish

  • on June 10, 2013, 23:58 GMT

    In the era of 90s Pak batting was a fear among fans of other teams , But now I dont know that I should be happy that they are struggling or sad as already we have only 5-6 good cricket teams and Pak is running out of options

  • Zee_1203 on June 10, 2013, 23:56 GMT

    Judge yourself is this a balanced team Lahore, Punjab Imran Farhat Lahore, Punjab Nasir Jamshed Sargodha, Punjab Hafeez Rawalpindi, Punjab Umar Amin Mianwali, Punjab Misbah Sialkot, Punjab Shoaib Lahore, Punjab Kamran Faisalabad, Punjab Saeed Ajmal Lahore, Punjab Wahab Riaz Mandi, Punjab Mohammad Irfan Frontier Province Junaid Khan

  • on June 10, 2013, 23:55 GMT

    As a pakistani fan disappointed , more than that their most of their batsman dont deserve to be called batsman they should learned from young Indian batsman real class act like Virat Kohli, Shikhar Dhawan, Dinesh Karthik and Suresh Rainan . Our batsmen face expression denotes as if they are mentally challenged, when playing under pressure. PCB should select batsman who are intelligent and mentally tough. Excellent pak bowling who always do good. Its time to get rid of malik, hafeez, Imran farhat Kamran Akmal these and few others, just throw all new faces.

  • hamqad on June 10, 2013, 23:47 GMT

    That is what you get for picking players like Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik ahead of Umar Akmal. Sure he has not been up to par in the last couple of years, but these two have been below par for 10 years now. And I do not think there is a shadow of doubt that U. Akmal possesses vastly more talent than these two combined. What about Harris Sohail? I fail to understand the logic behind persisting with these tried, tested, and yet ineffective cricketers. To put things in to perspective, these 2 will not make the starting line up of any team on the circuit in this tournament.

    Also, Kamran Akmal has been as useless with the bat as he normally is with the gloves. Isn't he there because of his batting abilities? Clearly he can't make the cut on his keeping alone.

    And so, above anyone else, I blame the coach and the selectors. Will the time ever be right for them to induct fresh blood in to this ageing yet "inexperienced' lineup?

  • hussainnepal on June 10, 2013, 23:31 GMT

    now these two innings shows how important is misbah for pakistan and still some kids here are criticising him, do you even understand cricket?

  • Wakenaam1103 on June 10, 2013, 23:25 GMT

    The Pakistani bowlers bowl their hearts out but the batsmen do not deliver. Their "batsmen" expect their bowlers to make the runs too. What if SA had played Steyn and Morkel? It would have been worse. For a nation with a population of 170 million is this the best batting they could come up with? After 25 overs they could only manage 50 runs. Pakistan selectors has got to stop buddy-buddy selection of players and inject real young talent. It was a sure disappointment for all the Birmingham fans who paid hefty prices to see they perform.

  • jays4 on June 10, 2013, 23:22 GMT

    Every one knows why selection committee cannot drop imran farhat and shoib malik from the team, . Why dropping Asad Shafiq instead of Shoaib malik. we would request shoiab malik to resign and win the hearts of millions of cricket fans.

  • on June 10, 2013, 23:15 GMT

    Pakistan keep carrying Shoaib malik in the team as Malik has given nothing with the bat and nothing with the ball. Pakistan have good bowlers but their bowlers cant bat which makes the tail of their batting line up longer than other teams. Hafeez should be opening the batting and Jamshed should bat at number 3. The Pakistan team should be...

    Fahrat Hafeez Jamshed Misbah(c) U Akmal K Akmal(wkt) A Mahmood Abdul Razzaq/Riaz Junaid Khan Ajmal Irfan

    Misbah comes in at 4 to offer solidity if the top 3 fail and Umar Akmal offers power hitting with his brother,Mahmood and Razzaq. Afridi is a big name but currently hasnt shown enough form and consistency to warrant a return. Mahmood and Hafeez combined can bowl 10 overs which the 5th bowler would need to bowl.

  • on June 10, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    i want this cup to south africa becaue of nelson mandela ply with sprit brothers

  • Greatest_Game on June 10, 2013, 23:07 GMT

    @ yuvi_gladiator. One Champion's Trophy innings is not an international career. Your comments about Miller can be applied to anyone, based on one innings. It is a lot easier to rush to judgement than to figure out ANYTHING from Miller's innings today. It is even easier to jump to the conclusion that an IPL team you support got hit out the park by Miller. Even easier, it seems, is to buy an over or 2 of "preferred bowling" in the IPL, which, thank heavens, is over. Real cricket is back. Move on.

  • SirViv1973 on June 10, 2013, 23:06 GMT

    @Shan 156, I think you are giving NZL a bit too much credit. Their batting is still extremely vulnerable. They made a real meal of chasing 138 against SRL yesterday. Their 2 recent wins against Eng were built on 2 100s by Guptil who is a very good batsman in this form but he won't make scores like that everytime he bats. You should also remember that Eng had Woakes & Dernbach in the side for those 2 defeats, 2 players who I doubt we will see play ODI for Eng again anytime soon. NZL are a betting bowling than batting side but with Broad & Finn fit I wouldn't say their bowling unit is better than Eng's. So although NZL may well make it through to the semis I think they are a pretty long way from being nailed on certs to win the group. I think there is still plenty of cricket to be played in GPA.

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:58 GMT

    Pakistan's overall outlook wasnt looking good right from the first match of the scotland tour.They hardly put any note worthy performance matches in those side matches.They barely managed 232 against scotland and defeted ireland just by the stroke of luck.Coupled with the fact there were some serious selection blunders on part of the selection management.If Afridi was dropped on basis of his poor form then how selectors can justify selection of Imran Farhat,Shoaib Malik and Kamran Akmal.Bowling performances were good but it was always the case of brittle batting order.Misbah-ul-Haq was yet again Pakistan's lone ranger but he lacked support from everyone except Nasir Jamshed.They tournament is a serious eye opener for

  • Iddo555 on June 10, 2013, 22:56 GMT

    If you can't get 200 in 50 over cricket then you aren't going to win many matches, it's as simple as that. The Pakistani Batting line up is probably the worst in what are considered the top 8 nations. Pakistan have bowled well but the batsman have thrown the good work of the bowlers away with their inept performance

  • beggars on June 10, 2013, 22:51 GMT

    I am from India but i always love to see Pakistan do well as far as cricket is concerned. They have talented yet mis-managed lot of young exciting players due to selection politics.Having said that i doubt whether pak will produce young players like India does .Same is the case for Indian Bowlers. Pak produces sensational fast bowlers.Love it!

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 10, 2013, 22:46 GMT

    For anyone who thinks alol the lesser sides are in group A and 6the weak ones in Group B I would suggest that for the purposes of playing a competition in UK that this is a figment of tortured Asian imagination and sad excuse making and above all is utterly fictitious. NZ are the only side to beat England at home recently,very recently and Aus did in 2009,since when we have beaten them. Also on our recent list of ODI conquests have appeared all of the teams in group B. Take it somewhere else excuse makers and whingers. Group B is a pushover. Byeee!

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    As an Indian i want to say that play for country glory not for personal ego,if n u have ego leave that out side cricket ground,grouping in the team been in pakistan team for long time,like Miandad -Imran,Zaheer-Miandad,,Akram-Waqar,but those people perform in the field example Miandad in WC1992.so unfrtunte that these players(including selectrs) not only let down team ,thy down entire nation,if thy have sence of decency plssss Kamran,Malik and Imran farhat retire frm pak team,lots of talent Haris sohail,shahzad,umar akmal r wating....

  • Naresh28 on June 10, 2013, 22:45 GMT

    AMLA was fantastic. Watching his stroke play was like Sachin in the old days. He was the architect of the win.

  • Zahidsaltin on June 10, 2013, 22:43 GMT

    Umar Akmal, Usman Salahudin, Fawad Alam. Ahmad Shehzad are all better than these players.

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:39 GMT

    Well, this is sort of expected from the team whose batting is not even par with lower ranked teams.If the bowling can get the other team for 50, the batsmen still fail to reach 40.At this point I can see India winning against WIndies and India and SA going through to the next. Pakistan may win against India, but will be too late

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:37 GMT

    Pakistan lost due to DEFENSIVE APPROACH. Everyone tried to save their wicket and got into shell (e.g. Malik). They forgot Singles and doubles are also part of cricket.

    How many balls you would block eventually you would get a good delivery and you would get out. They did not tried to counter attack the opposing bowlers so that they may have to change their line n length.

    Although Misbah is our best batsman in CT but we are loosing because of Misbah's mentality. Now, everyone try to play like Misbah even players who used to be aggressive (e.g. Nasir) are now play below 60 S/R.

    In this mentality, aggressive players like U.Akmal, Ahmad Shahzad and Adur Razzaq are not welcomed.

    Everyone knows Kamran Akmal is wasted at No 7, he should open with Nasir. His one shot on which he got out showed that he is a good stroke player which could be useful in top order.

  • Zahidsaltin on June 10, 2013, 22:35 GMT

    PRESERVE HAFEEZ for matches in Dubai against Bangladesh, Ireland and Zimbabway. He is useless as a batsman and you can't just keep him because of his bowling. Haris Sohail, Usman Sallahuddin, Umar Akmal and Fawad Alam deserve to be in the team replacing Hafeez, Asad, Umar Amin & Shoaib. Umar Amin must have contacts otherwise he has now been given enough chances and he couldn't even impress once. Today, he could have been out twice before he was finally freed of the misery. No word about Farhat and Malik, they should have been thrown out long time ago.

  • Venkat_Gowrishankar on June 10, 2013, 22:33 GMT

    @Harmony111 : Spot on Mate!. How can you forget Inzi's Heroics in 1992 WC Semi's againat a rampant NZ :-) What a match, that is always a classic. They surely needed an innings like that today. Unfortunately, there is no one like Inzi in their time right now..

    Pakistan play their cricket with a lot of passion, but that alone cannot win matches. I do not follow Pakistan domestic cricket, but from what I what I hear from the fans is that, there is a lot of talent but politics seems to the barrier. I hope that this bad showing will turn the tables around and a strong Pakistan team emerges. But, I am sure come India vs Pakistan, they will be a totally different outfit. Looking forward to a great game..

  • jackiethepen on June 10, 2013, 22:26 GMT

    Almost a copy cat version of the England v Australia game without the derision and scorn that greeted Bell and Trott. SA made less runs at a lower rate than England. Bell said the pitch was dry and slow. Amla said something similar. How on earth did we get all that nonsense about every ODI is now a 350 game with the new regs? Mostly from Indian fans. We've had two low scoring games and two in the middle range and only one - so far - a run fest over 300. Does this tell us something about the relationship between pitches and a par score? What was heartwarming was all the Pakistan supporters turning out to support their team. Given that Pakistan can't play at home, at least it gave them a glimpse of what it is like to play before a full house filled with Pakistan flags. I think the team deserve all the support they get. It must be incredibly difficult to always play away.

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:22 GMT

    After Pakistan's elimination from the Champions trophy, Team Coach and the Batting Coach should both quit. They are both playing with minds of Batsmen and their performance is deteriorating faster and faster. They are in greater abyss than ever before. In first 2-games, I believe their batting performance is pathetic. I lay the blame on Dav Whatmore and his newly hired batting coach. They are both unmitigated disaster for Pakistan. They should both be asked to resign.

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:21 GMT

    I was surprised to see pakistan fans sportive gesture hailing AMLA'S half cntuary GOOD

  • Zahidsaltin on June 10, 2013, 22:19 GMT

    I AM not heart broken as I very much knew that Pakistan couldn't chase anything more than 160. When the selectors do not want to get rid of people like Hafiz, Kamran, Malik and Imran Farhat and their choice of young talent is Umar Amin who has now played number of matches without a single innings of substance, then you can't expect better. Pakistan is probably the only test nation who selects players with years of playing but yet having averages in 20s. Other nation's player would score a century every 8-10 matches where as our players score a 50 every 15th match and that too if they meet a minnow on subcontinental wickets. Go and ask IQBAL QASIM now and he will tell you that I selected those whome the coach and the captain wanted. Then why is he there, why not let captain and the coach select the teams. Question is, when you are losing constantly and guys like Hafeez, Farhat, Malik, Asad and Kamran are failing again and again, then why not play some youngester like Haris Sohail.

  • Optic on June 10, 2013, 22:18 GMT

    @ Cpt.Meanster If England aren't a consistent one day team, who is then? This idea that England have an average & inconsistent side is said by people who can't have watched much of England and the other sides around or don't know what they're talking about. In the last 2 years if we compare them to say India who are WC and are considered a good side.

    England have played 43, won 25, lost 15, 1 Draw & 2 NC with a win loss ratio of 1.66. India have played 43 won 24 loss 16, 2 Draw & 1 NC with a win loss ratio of 1.50

    England have only lost 5 series in over 5 years, how does that not make you a consistent side. Lets be honest we only lost to NZ at home because we rested the bowlers and played Dernbach and Woakes, we only just beat them with the full side in NZ a few weeks before. Add to that they've been ranked n the top 2 up till the NZ series for nearly 18 months or so.

  • BoonBoom on June 10, 2013, 22:12 GMT

    I would love to see India beating Pakistan by at least 200 runs... This pak team with absolutely no talent and full of wrong selection can not win even against Bangladesh or Zimbabwe!! So sad this team has no bench strength and available talent is the best possible players just club class level...

  • Divinetouch on June 10, 2013, 22:11 GMT

    A good muslim - Hasim Amla instrumental in beating and humiliating Pakistan.

    Feel for Mishbah - the sole Pakistani cricketer with steel, who is often lambasted by Pakistani fans.

  • on June 10, 2013, 22:07 GMT

    Pakistan cricket need revamping at the grass root level, pakistan has many talented players but because these Pawwaa system they never get a chance to come forward. Somebody tell me what the hell Imran Farhat, Malik and Hafeez still in the team. Our youngster would have put a better show than these failures did. I sure do hope that this would be the end of their careers and Misbah needs to be shown door along with Hafeez, Malik, Imran farhat and bring back young talent. Enough this crap we as PAK fans has to endure.

  • ARJa on June 10, 2013, 22:06 GMT

    Can't believe someone actually said Pakistan were favorites to win the tournament. What a joke. Their batting is beyond pathetic. So sad for the bowlers that they are stuck with this train-reck of a batting lineup.

  • Greatest_Game on June 10, 2013, 22:03 GMT

    Tho the score suggests dominating win, the reality is Misbah lacked support to chase an attainable target. By far Pak's best player, his anchor role was constrained by lack of aggression from his batsmen. His superb fielding showed focus & intent, & to me he was let down.

    Great debut by Morris, & SA's much improved bowling may have been underestimated. I expected Pak's batsmen to truly attack SA's spin. Were they bamboozled by SA actually fielding 3 capable spinners?

    Pak's attack was not the dominating force media & supporters have portrayed, & tho the pitch offered little support to bat or ball, their spin was underwhelming, lacking in strategy absent a turning track, & the pace/seam expensive & unthreatening.

    Is SA intent on the "most run-outs" record? Misbah, strolling in to avenge Jonty Rhodes' famous flying run-out of Inzamam-ul-Haq, shows how 1 'slip & fall' transforms tight running into a game changer. That needs immediate repair for SA to advance.

    A good win for the Proteas

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 10, 2013, 21:59 GMT

    With all due respect to some Pakistani fans, I still can't believe how Cricinfo's experts called for Pakistan to win this tournament ? I am lost for words. A team with such poor batting line up in international cricket don't deserve to win anything. A good bowling attack can only do so much. They restricted SA to a mediocre score. It was Pakistani batsmen's game to lose and that's exactly what they did. A poor show by the Pakistani team.

  • on June 10, 2013, 21:57 GMT

    So Pakistan's campaign in Champions trophy was shorter than Bambi's against Godzilla.

    Hopefully some day PCB will stop using Night of the Living Dead as its selection blueprint and stop resurrecting deceased batsmen like Farhat, Shoaib, and Akmal.

  • Darvesh on June 10, 2013, 21:50 GMT

    stopped watching Pak inning once Hafeez got out cuz it was all too familiar script. Infact I was surprised Hafeez lasted that many deliveries. Seriously, when you've an entire bating lineup of non-performers and consistent failures, then you can't go wrong in predicting the match result from the very first 5 overs of Pak's innings. I really feel some time banging my head agains the wall when I look at the team selection for upcoming series. Seeing the same lousy pathetic failures like Hafeez, Farhat, Malik finding the place in the team again & again just makes me hate this beautiful game. And take this - Nasir the most promising & talented opener was dropped after one failed innings in SA instead of letting him get more exposure to quality international competition, likewise Asad Shafiq instead of giving him chances to improve & build confidence gets dropped to make room for an enternal failure like Farhat. How's PCB going to build team for future with this stupid approach?

  • kc69 on June 10, 2013, 21:44 GMT

    It's really interesting how people are now raising pitch for older players like Younus Khan,Abdur Razzaq,Shahid Afridi etc., well this exactly matches with the mindset of PCB. Other Teams are looking forward for bright young cricketers and Pakistan fans still want old players to come and save the day. Why not try a complete set of new players and lose rather than giving chance to people such as Imran Farhat,Shoaib Malik,Kamraan Akmal again and again so that they can score well in one match(especially against India) and become stuck in the team for some more time. Basically losing with a young set of players who are willing to learn is lot better than an hopeless batting , Learn something from your own bowling lineup .....opinion from an Indian Fan

  • thiruven on June 10, 2013, 21:38 GMT

    Frankly Pakistan has been playing quite well. Quite amazing bowling attack that can destroy any team. It was tough to see them go down given the team spirit that prevailed in both matches.

  • on June 10, 2013, 21:37 GMT

    Dear, oh dear!, this undoubtedly the worst era for Pak cricket....I have witnessed many choking moments but at least they tried in the past but this lot takes the cake. I hate to think what will happen once Misbah hangs his boots...I don't see a successor among this lot...please, for God sake, let it not be Hafeez...or the playboy Malik...

    Thank Goodness, there's India....I think I have better chance winning the Lottery than to see Pak beat India. But there is light at the end of tunnel, waiting for "Amir" return.

  • Harmony111 on June 10, 2013, 21:27 GMT

    I am an Ind fan but somehow to see Pak losing like this does not please me one bit. Pak have always been a designer when it comes to the game of cricket. They taught us Reverse Swing and the Doosra & for these two reasons alone we all should be grateful to them. They have given us the Ws, Shoaib, Sarfaraz, Saqlain & leaders like Imran Khan & Inzi. Who can ever forget that WC 96 QF? Isn't that a classic? What about the 2 WT20 07 matches?

    Pak's batting needs steroids. I have never been Afridi's fan but Pak is missing him atm, or someone like him. I was mesmerized to see Riaz bowl consistently @150 vs WI. Pity they had only 178.

    From Pak's PoV, this is the best they got. They get little quality cricket due to reasons well known. As always it the politics that hurts them and in turn all of us. Cricket is game of 10 nations and we need every one of us. It hurts me when some Pak fans blame Ind for Pak's lack of exposure. We'd love to play but safety is imp too after all.

    - A Sad Ind Fan.

  • santhoo24 on June 10, 2013, 21:25 GMT

    I am not a Pak fan, but can feel the let-down feeling you guys are going through. We Indians went through the same sometime back. Just hang in there and try supporting your team through thick and thin. Just look at Lankan fans for inspiration. They would blame umpires or their opposition for their loss, and yet support their team. I would be upset if Pak doesn't make it to semis but that's life. Anyways well played Pak, your batsmen let you down ONCE AGAIN, and congrats to SA.

  • Harmony111 on June 10, 2013, 21:18 GMT

    I am an Ind fan but somehow to see Pak losing like this does not please me one bit. Pak have always been a designer when it comes to the game of cricket. They taught us Reverse Swing and the Doosra & for these two reasons alone we all should be grateful to them. They have given us the Ws, Shoaib, Sarfaraz, Saqlain & leaders like Imran Khan & Inzi. Who can ever forget that WC 96 QF? Isn't that a classic? What about the 2 WT20 07 matches?

    Pak's batting needs steroids. I have never been Afridi's fan but Pak is missing him atm, or someone like him. I was mesmerized to see Riaz bowl consistently @150 vs WI. Pity they had only 178.

    From Pak's PoV, this is the best they got. They get little quality cricket due to reasons well known. As always it the politics that hurts them and in turn all of us. Cricket is game of 10 nations and we need every one of us. It hurts me when some Pak fans blame Ind for Pak's lack of exposure. We'd love to play but safety is imp too after all.

    - A Sad Ind Fan.

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 10, 2013, 21:12 GMT

    @shan156: Man, I ain't an England hater if that's what you think lol. I still feel England aren't a consistent ODI team yet. However, the weak teams in England's group means they will find it a lot easier to qualify for the semis. Honestly, it would only be a surprise if England don't play well in their own backyard. I think the teams for the semi finals will be INDIA, SA/WI, ENG, and SL/NZ. Good bye Pakistan, you weren't good enough in the first place. Yet, some people called you 'favourites'. Having said that, Pakistan's bowling is world class. Their batting though is below international quality except Misbah and Jamshed.

  • SumitRavi on June 10, 2013, 21:08 GMT

    Comon guys. As an Indian, I know all too well how weak our bowling is. We have a strong batting. You guys have the opposite, so why so glum? It was a great pleasure watching Junaid and Irfan bowl and Saeed is probably the best spinner in the world at present. The Pakistani team is young, obviously some senior people need to be around for some time to develop this team into a great team. Give them some time.

  • on June 10, 2013, 21:06 GMT

    Tough Luck Pakistan! They are probably out of the tournament. I think they should use this opportunity to revamp the entire side and give a lot of opportunities to youngsters as I am sure there are many world beaters yet to make debut. I wonder where all the attacking batsmen of Pakistan have gone, they just don't seem to have the intent. I miss the old Pakistan teams, Moin Khan hitting sixes over point or Abdur Razzak hitting bowlers like Mc Grath straight over the top of the head.

  • on June 10, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    Well! Pakistani team will lose anyway then why not bringing hardcore sloggers like Imran nazeer, Ahmed Shehzad and offcourse Afridi ?

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:56 GMT

    Younis, Umer Akmal, Razzaq and maybe even Afridi deserve to be in the team. They perform much more often that the current bunch. I don't know how many more times will Imran Farhat, Shoaid Malik and Kamran Akmal will keep getting chances. Why did they kick Asad Shafiq out? Can't kick Hafeez out due to his bowling.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:55 GMT

    South Africa without Kallis, Smith, Stain-remover & morkel...no choke this time round!! well done boys !!!

  • Unmesh_cric on June 10, 2013, 20:52 GMT

    Pakistan's approach to batting has changed a lot since the 90s. They used to be unpredictable and in general aggressive in their batting. Most of the times they would surprise the opposition with aggressive batting and sometimes this would also lead to a batting collapse. But now, it seems Pakistan batting has become ultra-ultra-cautious. They find it hard to score even 4 runs per over in the first 20-25 overs. Where is Umar Akmal? I know he can frustrate you by playing rash shot sometimes, but at least he plays positive cricket. He has got all the shots. Also, I have never understood why Pakistan selectors kept on ignoring Razzaq for such a long time. Now, he is past his prime. But they could have used him much better earlier. Another guy who got a raw deal was Imran Nazir. Isn't he better than Imran Farhat in limited overs cricket? Don't give me the statistics, I mean better in terms of having an impact on the match.

  • malepas on June 10, 2013, 20:51 GMT

    I'm glad that this Pak side will loose out 3-0 and this coming from a PAK FAN,I was to buy tickets for first match against WI but when I saw team announced, I decided against it,, this team is a horrible selection in the history of PAK selection, there is no balance in this team, 3 openers plus a wicket keeper,who is only effective as opener,,4 middle order batters without any proper allrounder,,I can't understand the life of me, what the hell Shoib Malik,Imran Farhet and Umer Amin are doing in this team? they have people like Younas, Umer Akmal, Shehzad, Hammad are sitting outside?? Younas would have been far better then Shoib at no 4,,Pathetic selection,,They should resign with immediate affect or should be sacked.

  • somethingdifferent on June 10, 2013, 20:50 GMT

    The selection of Farhat, Shoaib, Akmal, Amin and Riaz has been questioned on so many occasions that it is a sheer waste of time commenting over it. PCB will continue selecting them no matter how poorly they play, and whatever the nation feels about them, so what is the point.

    Instead of bringing this disgrace to the nation PCB should have opted out of CT, that way Bangladesh or ZImbabwe could have a chance in their place and who knows may be they would have done better.

  • imran_yz on June 10, 2013, 20:48 GMT

    Being a pakistani fan..it's really surprise to see comments like appraising players like afridi - 30 yard entertainer, umar akmal - still not completed school..and Younis Khan - simply likes because of his last name and strangely everyone criticized about MISBAH and shoaib...why not criticized about BIG TWO YEARS FAILURE MOHAMMED HAFEEZ useless player in the top!! Let's bring back Shahzad Ahmad to the top

  • LankaGod on June 10, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    And by the way, if the Pakistan fans were looking for signs how over rated their bowlers are, they should have looked at the series you guys played with Ireland..

  • sal80 on June 10, 2013, 20:41 GMT

    As apakistani fan hearts are broken, but now i am clear they dnt deserve to go in next stage best of luck india , SA & WI. IF team cant chase this target then i am sorry to say they dnt have batsman left to play international standard of cricket. Well done pak bowling who always do good. Its time to get rid of malik, hafeez, imran and few others, just throw all new faces.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:40 GMT

    Pakistani bowlers keep troubling South Africans. It is our batting side that is not performing from years. Imran Farhat didn't make it in first class then who entered him in the team when everybody knows that he is below the average player. Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, umer Amin are not performing at all. We are on the GOD's good humor. It was a suicide for sending these losers in and SA wrecking Pakistani team. Pakistani team was destroyed, dominated and humiliated. It is about time for MISBAH CAPTAIN TUK TUK to learn that test cricket and one days are two different formats.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:40 GMT

    Anyone who believes that players in PAK team are selected based on talent, potential or performance is naive. There is too much politics involved in selection, which is why Abdul Razzak is not in the squad. Wise people know players like Kamran, shoaib, Imran farhat etc have support of some very big folks behind the scenes which keeps them in. Nothing more to it. They can fail 100 times, but you will still see them in the squad. The same politics keep talented players out of the squad, until they reach the age of 30, specially bowlers. Why Mohammad Irfan has only played 13 ODIs so far, and he is already 31 yrs old ?? We won't see any improvements in pak's cricket Until this culture of favouritism and stupidity ends.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:38 GMT

    @ Unomaas - What else do you expect? When you take a day off from work, spend around 100 quid to go to the ground and eventually find out that the guys neva had any intention of winning then booing is pretty much what he and his team deserves if not more. And this is not the first time Misbah has played such a slow innings. wc semi final against India was another one.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:34 GMT

    Misbah 1980's strategy of not losing wicket in first few overs will always end in disaster. It's time for him to say goodbye even though he is leading scorer, his old timid tactics won't work. Malik, Farhat and Kamran Akmal should be out forever. Umar Akmal should play as wicketkeeping batsman in future and Hafee should only play as a bowler lower down the order, unless the game is against Ireland, Bangladesh or Zimbabwe.

  • Stark62 on June 10, 2013, 20:33 GMT

    Like I said earlier after the first game Afridi, U. Akmal, Shezhad, Harris Sohail (best Pak batsmen in FC for two years running) and Hammad will be laughing at the team.

    Also, shame on the fans who booed Misbah because he was outstanding and deserved a big round of applause. I hated Misbah too but he has been sensational and deserves to lead a young Pak side into the 2015 WC.

    Lastly, it's time to get rid of the garbage (incl. the selectors and Whatmore).

    OUT: Malik (sooner the better), Farhat (always will be a parchi boy), Shafiq, Amin, Rehman, Kamran and potentially, Hafeez and Wahab.

  • gibbs.175 on June 10, 2013, 20:29 GMT

    HI SA fans This is a fantastic effort.....what a win .!....4 man players not playing and SA win easily ,thanks everyone....after along time they play as a UNIT (SA ),... congratulations for MORRIS....good luck

  • bbnn on June 10, 2013, 20:28 GMT

    Where is Sami Aslam the U19 opener then imamul haq, they all need to get a long run i am an indian but feel very sorry to PAK fan

  • Shan156 on June 10, 2013, 20:26 GMT

    @Cpt.Meanster, is that really you? You fancy Eng to reach the semis? What is the world coming to?:-) Seriously, Eng. have a make or break game against SL who will easily beat Aus. Then, we will have our toughest game against NZ and the odds are that the Kiwis will win all their group games. So, whoever wins day after will join NZ in the semis. In the other group, Pak. have done themselves no favors with their brittle batting line-up and have very little hope of progressing. Even assuming other results go their way, I don't see how they would beat a red hot India and also given their record against India in global ODI tournaments. India is more likely guaranteed a place in the semis but I reckon S. Africa will be the other team to join them.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:26 GMT

    I totally agree with Unomass, Misbah you Have another Indian supporter today... Credit to your sportsmanship. You stood tall where others withered away... Respect and best of luck...

  • Venkat_Gowrishankar on June 10, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Very sad to see Pakistan batting like this. Gone are those days, when Saeed Anwar carted bowlers to all corners. Solid middle order in Inzi, Ijaz and a gritty fighting keeper in Moin. I guess Young batsmen like Umar Akmal ,Asad Shafiq need mentors like Miandad or Z abbas to nuture them. They are all good players,but some adjustments here and there are need to ensure that they bat for long period, tighten their technique and not throw their wicket away.

    The bowling is still top class.Make no mistakes about it.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Pakistan badly miss boom boom talented umar akmal and finisher abdul razzak pcb has to deem these player well as well its time 2 drop messy players imran ,shoib malik ,umar amin

  • ball_boy on June 10, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    All pak fans can i ask one question? Is K akmal the only wicketkeeper you got. First thing about a Wicketkeeper is he should be able to catch and stump as well and also support the remaining batsmans .Barring Eng,India,SA,Aus, NewZealand ,SriLanka,the others havent got a Good keeper batsman or batsman keeper.Besides the one good keeper who kept wickets as well as scored runs for pak is out of Cricket due to the Akmal Bros. So is there anybody else or is K Akmal the most consistent player in the side,though the only consistency i find is his name on the roster

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    Another horrible batting performance by Pakistan, it will take a miracle for them to be in semis, let's hope for the best. Without a doubt, South Africa played a well planned game.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:25 GMT

    I agree @unomaas ..I have always liked Misbah. Some of the folks and I mean Pakistani fans give him so much unwarranted grief. It is simply not fair.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:24 GMT

    I think this is the best result for such Pakistani team, as a Pakistani i was very disappointed to see such type of team selection a team who have players like SHOAIB MALIK , IMRAN FARHAT , KAMRAN AKMAL WAHAB RIAZ and NEGATIVE CAPTAIN like misbah ul haq deserve such type of result come on pplz don't dream about our team qualification for semi finals because they dont deserve this, how the hell you drop asad shafiq for one failure but u didnt drop MR SHOIAB MALIK for golden duck or from past record he even dont deserve a place for a club cricket team but as all know that he is a good friend of mr misbah so..... i know most ppplz think that misbah did good in batting etc... but no he is a captain he should act like it his first job is to select best team and be positive but he was not, i think its time again for rite and good change plz axe all tit bit players and plzzz dont bring shahid afridi or any other OLD players give chance to hammad azam , anwar ali , asad shafiq etc THANK YOU

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:23 GMT

    The Pakistan squad for this CT never looked strong enough to survive this group. It's time PCB should warn Hafeez.....they leave Afridi on the basis that he is not bowling well...y pick Shoaib Malik then and not Hammad Azam...u need to groom these youngsters..and Hafeez...I thought he was an all rounder and not a bowler!! Misbah can't win matches alone, he batted well but should have been a bit more aggressive in his captaincy!!! It's high time PCB should focus on the WC in 2015 and start grooming the younger bunch!Looking forward to Pakistan bouncing back to become a stronger squad!!

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:20 GMT

    A 50 over game unlike the instantly gratifying 20 over one is about intent and strategy. It is also about introducing a bit of uncertainty and surprise. Case in point: shuffle the batting order a bit so that Kamran could be sent to pinch hit. If a player goes with a timid mindset with the fear of being dissected that an adventurous shot might bring criticism back home then this seeps into the psyche of the others. There are role players in every side and every one tried being the Misbah today. I think Misbah would have been served well if he had quick runners/pinch hitters up the order. I do not think the Pakistan team failed because of their hands, legs or bat but lost the battle in the mind. No matter who you bring in, if the mind is not 100% the body will not play. As an Indian fan, I do not care much about thrilling encounters, I want to see a dud or dead rubber.

  • SurlyCynic on June 10, 2013, 20:18 GMT

    Great to see Morris coming in and bowling well, a vast improvement on the mediocre Kleinveldt and a much better length. Good again from McLaren and a huge improvement from Tsotsobe. Phangiso did OK but if Steyn comes back I would bring him back for Phangiso and let Duminy and Peterson do the spin overs. The attack starts to look a lot better then.

    Batting still had bad moments, the run out of AB was madness. Need to improve before the WI game but at least the tournament isn't over!

    Still wondering how Kleinveldt originally got into the squad (given English conditions) ahead of Morris though...

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:16 GMT

    well done sa. pak nearly out of tournament. if india wins tomorrow then india will go to semifinals and can rest few star players vs pak in last match.

  • on June 10, 2013, 20:15 GMT

    we just need 2 senior players in the side to anchor the innings and those two are Misbah and Younis except them bring in teenagers or early 20s fresh legs in the team who carry zeal and passion.

  • getsetgopk on June 10, 2013, 20:12 GMT

    The usual suspects, Farhat, Hafeez and Malik turned up at their forte of not performing, yet again. I dont understand these people on here complaining about slow run rate, test blockers and so on, dont you guys get it? These well known non performers dont have it in them to play shots, keep the score board ticking and attack if and when the run rate goes up. Its a simple case of just not having that ability and such players should not be in any side at all. This Pak side was doomed the moment selectors announced the team, no real surprize there. Gone are the days when Pak had batsmen of substance and standing. A two man batting lineup (Misbah & Jamshed) are good enough for a 170 (against WI) or a 167 like today against SA. Scores like these aren't just poor, they aren't international standards but what you expect from a two man batting lineup? The SA bowling was absolutely spot on though, never gave an inch. Still anybody's cup other than Pakistan of course.

  • passionatecricbug on June 10, 2013, 20:10 GMT

    Who are the unlucky one's who will have to face the wrath of dale steyn?

  • Unomaas on June 10, 2013, 20:08 GMT

    I'm not a Pakistani, but watching the post match presentation and the way that Pakistani fans booed Misbah was upsetting especially considering that millions of people around the world saw that! It takes a strong man to take such abuse and then come back for more (#respect). I don't care who's supporter you are but that kind of behavior is just not cricket!

    Their is a saying that real men don't make excuses, they take responsibility and watching Pakistan perform in the last few years, Misbah seems to be the only one willing to man up! Misbah might have lost lots of Pakistan fans today but he gained one SA supporter today!

  • BowlersWinMatches on June 10, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    Pakistan looks the weakest team in the tournament and will finish 8 th if all the teams are put together in the same group. Thier bowling attack is overrated, their fielding is crap and lets not talk about their batting. How can they say their bowling is good when they leaked 235 runs whereas saf got them out for 165? Good luck against 1 odi team.

  • 2.14istherunrate on June 10, 2013, 20:06 GMT

    There was a poll taken when Pakistan were bowling: 'Is Pakistan the best bowling side in the CT?' 65% said 'yes'. If a later poll had asked 'Is the Pakistan batting the worst in CT? the answer could have been:'95% say 'yes'. Maybe Australia have as bad,but not worse. They were just completely inadequate with the batting, and thus barring terrible errors of judgement by India twice will depart the CT earlier than wanted. SA on the other hand brought their all round skill to bear and on the back Amla's 81 posted a middling 235. Surely enough given Pakistan's capabilities. It was and so they live to die another day. Morris satisfied my curiosity for sure, and the rest of the attack lacking superstars were nevertheless very tidy and well organised. The battle for group B is now a serious one with India favourites to win.

  • aliasPaki on June 10, 2013, 20:05 GMT

    Pakistan bowling is world class while our batting is minnow-isk! The result is a horrible team.

    I just love the failed defensive strategy Misba continues to use. He plays not to lose which results in the batting side crumbling due to pressure.

    In the post comments Misba said that players were in form? How by barely beating Ireland. Pre-tournament all signs pointed to a Pakistan collapse and that is exactly what just happened.

    Maybe one more humiliation at the hands of the Indians and we just might see a real change in the squad.

  • ilyas on June 10, 2013, 20:05 GMT

    What a surprise! The worst batting side in Pakistan history and we expected them to win! Hafeez can only score runs against zim or Bangladesh. Farhat can't score runs against anyone. Malik can't play anything above medium pace yet bats 4 and Akmal is plain useless. Who choose this batting line up when every pakistani fan knew that it was awful. It is beyond belief that umar Akmal was left out. No matter how bad he was batting he would have been streets ahead of the dross we have had to endure. Heads should roll but they won't. The sad truth that there are only two batsmen in this side - Jamshed and the captain who is just about to claim his old age bus pass! I feel gutted for our main bowlers

  • SirViv1973 on June 10, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    @Riz, To be honest it was just a suggestion, If I was a Pakistan fan I would be more interested in getting Misbah up the order than dropping Hafeez from the team. You also have to remember that Hafeez is a very effective 5th bowler & to drop him would greatly upset the balance of the team. If Misbah would have batted at 3 against WI Pak would almost certainly have posted more than 170 & probably won the game. If he would have batted at 3 today I think Pak chase would have been much better paced & they would have got a lot closer & they may have well reached the target. Perhaps in the longer term the likes of Sohail, Umer & Azhar will make a difference but none of them were picked for this tournament so just get Misbah up the order for the last game as it's Ind!

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:58 GMT

    South Africa even without Kallis, Smith, Styne & morkel were far better than full fledged Pakistan. Batsmen like Kamaran akmal, Imran Farhat, Shoaib Malik can't even make it to the first class teams in most countries. Then there was a lack of planning to reach the total, batsmen were unable to take singles even, more than 50% of time they spent they were scoring less than 3 runs per over, remarkably poor in todays world of one day cricket.

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:58 GMT

    Iqbal Qasim should be fired. He cant select players. PCB is responsible for this

  • o0oPiTBuLLo0o on June 10, 2013, 19:57 GMT

    So, Who's The "Choker" Now ?! What a sorry and poor show put up by Pakistan in batting and as well bowling. Not a single Pak bowler could get more than 2 wickets, except Irfan, no other bowler could get a maiden over !!!! Really a very bad show ! It was a one sided match right from the beginning !!! Paksitan still has to find their one-sole- hitting / leading / match-winning batsman !!!

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:56 GMT

    @COldcoffee123, WHy would India need to win big against windies? If they beat windies by whatever margin tomorrow they qualify and knock Pakistan out. Then it would be do or die between Windies and Proteas. And India vs Pak would be a thrilling dead rubber, but a dead rubber nevertheless.

  • neo-galactico on June 10, 2013, 19:55 GMT

    It's tough to be a SA fan. Kudos for the boys for winning without some of their big guns. Disappointed with the batting again, lost too many wickets in the middle overs and lost opportunity to post 270 plus score. The run-outs haven't helped either but the bowling today was good against a weak Pak batting line-up. The Pak bowling is the best in the tournament but their batting has let them down thus far except Misbah.

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:55 GMT

    @2nd_Slip You are ignoring the fact that Pakistan have the worst batting line-up of the tournament.

  • xylofon on June 10, 2013, 19:55 GMT

    I dont want to take anything away from South Africa┬┤s win but they didnt bowl particaularly well, especially some spinners, Mclaren was good though. Congrats to the whole SA team.

    When Pakistan won the series in India it did one good thing for india, they decided to let new blood, which has happened to some exent. Pakistan carried on because it seems PCB think everything is fine. Its not. What can Umar Amin do if they dont GROOM him? A one of chance will do nothing. Imran Farhat came back on the strength of one century but has FAILED completely since then. We need Babar Azam to take place as an opener soon and I want mr highest batting average of all, Fawad Alam, to be given a chance in ODI & test. Abdur Razzaq in T20 alongside Afirdi and Yasir Arafat. Hammad Azam, how many times must this name be mentioned before PCB react? Time to groom these new players.

    Until this one issue isnt adressed nothing will come to fruition. Pak can bowl superwell but batting has to be FIXED!

  • ProdigyA on June 10, 2013, 19:54 GMT

    To put it plain and simple. Pak batting is a JOKE. Just unfit for international cricket.

  • CricFanster on June 10, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    I see WI having little edge over India for tom's game which will keep things interesting for team Pak as it will be blessing in disguise for them . I believe Pak still has a chance to make it to Semi's if they win over India by a comfortable margin if not a big margin as their NRR is on the lower side as compared to other teams in the group. On the other hand I wish India wins tomm so that they can make it to semi's rather than facing a do or die situation Vs Pak .

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    @somethingdifferent, i guess you are rite, that might be a blessing in disguise, we surely need to look at reality, that what our batsman are doing ? do they really deserve in the this team ? i guess apart from the bowler's, all the team apart from Nasir Jamshed needs to be changed, and we need to change Misbah as well just because of his approach, what is Imran Farhat and Shoaib Malik doing in the team ?

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    Pk two day ago was the favourites.Now what?Because they loose there getting a good bashing.The changed rules of the game has given those players that just conclude the IPL an advantage.High intense games and change quickly or adopt to situations was required.No expirence in this situation spell desaster.The PK team is a good one and while I am a WI i would have like to more resistence by PK.The Indians is the team to watch and England since they have home court advantage.Never mind NZ beat them in the recent ODI series .

  • ball_boy on June 10, 2013, 19:52 GMT

    Yo Guys Please do not be upbear about team India too much.The competition is still open viz the follwing 2 scenarios.Scenario 1-West Indies Win All Matches, India loses to Pakistan,then it will be 3 teams fighting for 1 spot all 3 with 1 win . Scenario 2-Pakistan loses all matches,and remaining 3 win 2 out of 3.Ergo run rate matters.

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 10, 2013, 19:51 GMT

    @landl47: A very sensible comment indeed. I also feel England will easily qualify from the other group. NZ or SL will be the other team. AUS and PAK are well on their way out of the CT 2013.

  • CrazyforcricketIII on June 10, 2013, 19:50 GMT

    Is there anybody to help Misbah? Again, he was the only one who put on any resistance to the bowlers. There was nobody on the other end to help their team!! Though Pakistan is out of the tournament but please get rid of Farhat, Shoaib and Kamran for the next big game against India!!

  • KGS1971 on June 10, 2013, 19:49 GMT

    if anyone has any doubt they must immediately go to ER that Imran Farhat, Hafeez, and shoaib must be replaced. I cannot believe that we have not found top class openers. There is something wrong here.

  • Karthik78 on June 10, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    So sad, there is more support to Pak team in the ground, but team could not get any motivation from them while teams like WI and SA do not have much support and still they won their games. I heard lot of appreciation/shouts even for single boundary. Pakistan started like favorites winning the warm up matches. Any how, better luck Pakistan for next time if the tournament is there.

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:45 GMT

    This is funny how we gave the match away in the absence of Dale steyn and Morne morkel..PCB should open their eyes and sack all these useless batsmen except Nasir jamshed and misbah,the only ones who showed they care for the team,other than that imran farhat,hafeez,umer amin,shoaib malik,kamran akmal?..what are you upto man?...Talent like ahmed shahzad is being wasted,Afridi,umar akmal,Abdul razzaq would have made this team better than what we are seeing at the moment,RIP pakistan cricket!..even ireland would have shown better display of batting here.

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:43 GMT

    I agree with Riz000, to some extent. Also let us not be too critical. It is just a bad phase and almost all top teams have this kind of phase. It may time to regroup and not make wholesale changes. Best of luck to Pakistan for future series and I am sure they will perform well....

  • SachBro on June 10, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    Pakistan is out of it. With the kind of sorry batting card they have, they don't deserve to be here either. They need to go back in rebuilding phase. I'm predicting an Ind vs Eng final if SA doesn't radically improve.

  • Massey_T on June 10, 2013, 19:42 GMT

    @aby prasad, i like your insights. Well it wasnt close like you said and now we have an idea of a good score, comfortable score if i may say so. The thing with pakistan these days is the big question, 'who will accompany misbah' and even though their bowling is better than most I still maintain the best bowling unit is still srilanka and nz and india's batting unit is not the best until proven on green conditions without the sun. Until then, the best batting unit on these conditions,is england so far.

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:39 GMT

    As usual it's poor batting performance of Pakistan.. Well bowled SA!

  • Massey_T on June 10, 2013, 19:38 GMT

    @aby prasad, i like your insights. Well it wasnt close like you said and now we have an idea of a good score, comfortable score if i may say so

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    I am just so sad that there are stil so many Pak fans who ridicule Misbah's strike rate and position in the team.

    I have only watched him a few times but he has been brilliant. Although I didn't want Pak to win my heart was all the way supporting Misbah for his single handed bravery.

    IMO even younis khan and Mohd Yusuf are good enuf to break into this batting line up.

    Surprisingly there is so much support for Afridi but I feel he will also do a maggi when coming in to bat in crucial times.

  • NP_NY on June 10, 2013, 19:36 GMT

    Haven't seen this worse batting in a major tournament in a while. And Pak didn't even have to play against Steyn and Morkel. Farhat and Shoaib Malik batting in positions that Saeed Anwar and Inzi used to bat at one time? That is just wrong. At least, Umar Akmal and Abdur Razzaq should have been playing in their place.

  • spot_on on June 10, 2013, 19:34 GMT

    Good luck for the future of Pakistan Cricket!! Sorry Pak fans, I'm from India. My next favorite team after India is Pak. I really really wish they could've qualified. I hope PCB first kicks off the non-performers just like how the BCCi and Dhoni did. Misbah is too old to carry this kinda load on his shoulders. Except for Misbah and the Bowling unit, I'd really love to see this pathetic batting unit replaced by a young,fearless and capable blokes. God bless. As for South Africa, they should better be prepared not to choke if in case they beat the WIndies and qualify for the semis. Well, That's a Big IF !!!

  • landl47 on June 10, 2013, 19:33 GMT

    I said before the tournament started that I was amazed people were talking about Pakistan as a favourite to win. This is comfortably the weakest batting side out of the 8 countries. If SA, without Steyn, Morkel and Kallis, can roll them over for 167, then they never had a chance of reaching the semi-finals. Only Nasir and Misbah made any runs in either game.

    SA really didn't get enough runs to beat anyone but Pakistan, so they can't feel comfortable either. It looks as though India and WI will qualify from this group.

  • coldcoffee123 on June 10, 2013, 19:32 GMT

    Pak lost. Oh boy, Pak will now come blazing against India to avoid a whitewash. Bad luck India. Let us assume India lose to Pak. India must win against WI tomorrow by a big margin to increase their net run-rate.

  • 2nd_Slip on June 10, 2013, 19:31 GMT

    All that talk of SA being weak without Steyn and Morkel, SA don't have bowling depth, SA don't have spinners blah blah blah was I watching the same SA that every Pakistani fan was talking about here before the match??!!.

  • somethingdifferent on June 10, 2013, 19:31 GMT

    The loss hurts, but what can one expect from a side with only 2 batsmen ( Misbah & Jamshed), the rest went on a joy trip. However it can turn out to be a blessing in disguise if PCB start selecting genuinely deserving players instead of these players with contacts and connections ( sifarshi).

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:28 GMT

    So who was saying that Pakistan is the Favorite for ICC Champions Trophy ?

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    Looks like the Team that was favourites to win the Tournament is also the first to be KNOCKED OUT of the Champions Trophy! Pakistan are indeed the most unpredictable team in cricket.

  • Indian_Rule on June 10, 2013, 19:20 GMT

    pakistan has learnt nothin from their last match...pathetic batting display.....worst batting line up in d turnament...

  • ArmyJim on June 10, 2013, 19:12 GMT

    This is disgraceful, I'm watching here in Edgbaston and the Pakistani crowd is leaving in droves. Stay and support your Team please people.

  • on June 10, 2013, 19:11 GMT

    The team have seriously missed Umar Akmal, Shahid Afridi and Abdul Razzaq in this tournament...Imran Farhat, Umar Amin should be dropped

  • bbnn on June 10, 2013, 19:09 GMT

    Misba Out ! And that is the end of Pakisthan ,very sorry to see the match why they are wasted too many balls in the starting i don't kndow

  • TNAmarkFromIndia on June 10, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    Pakistan have effectively batted themselves out of this match and the tournament as a whole. If India wins tomorrow, their June 15th clash could end up being as nothing more than a dead rubber.

  • Rubic on June 10, 2013, 18:57 GMT

    I'm sure one day...Imran Farhat, Hafeez, Shoib Malik and Kamran Akmal will fire on green and seaming conditions...One day...when..nobody knows and neither sees it coming..but..keep trust on Pak selectors and Misbah..they will... Shafiq..the only other better batsman after Yonus has been dropped again...Thanks Misbah..you really look TALL among your other "selected" bunch...

  • ICCexpert.... on June 10, 2013, 18:56 GMT

    wholesale changes needed with Pak batting, its time we say good bye to Farhat, Mallik, Kamran, Asad Shafiq and also Misbah for one dayers. Include Players like Ahmad Shahzad, Harris Sohail, Rameez Raja Jr, Sharjeel Khan, Hammad Azam and Ali Waqas. PCB please open your eyes.

  • roook on June 10, 2013, 18:50 GMT

    Are Pakistan Playing for a win or just giving away the match there is no intent in batting

  • Riz000 on June 10, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    @SirViv1973 have u lost the plot or wat???? how can hafeez open when he hasn't even scored a single century against likes of Sf, Sl, Aus, Eng,over 100+ matches he cnt play out side Asia yes he might score a 50 v Bangladesh or Zim we need Hafeez malik Farhat OUT in come Harris Sohail Umar akmal and azhar ALi our bowling is very good any one agrees wid me?????????? plz reply me!!!

  • parikshit_Ops on June 10, 2013, 18:37 GMT

    I had already told that SA even scores 210 PAK would struggle and this is what is happening. Though as long as Misbah is there PAK has some hope left. SA bowling without Steyn and Morkel is still too strong for PAK batting which is of same level as that of Associate nations and Bangladesh, Seems like PAK would continue its pathetic record against SA. The wicket that displayed current state of PAK's Battingt was Imran Farhat. A train would have gone through the gap between Bat and Pad

  • maria_01 on June 10, 2013, 18:36 GMT

    reallly a pathetic batting unit of pakistan, this batting line up is really degrading cricket image of pakistan, pcb should ban pak cricket team untill they learn how to bat....really they are bringing shame for pakistan nothing else. only bowling will not build image for pakistan, cricket is the name of batting, bowling and fielding not bowling alone. so plz pcb dont let pakistan down by playing such a team who does no know how to bat and field

  • parikshit_Ops on June 10, 2013, 18:32 GMT

    About giving advice to PAK, they desperately need to have some attacking spirit in batting. Too much defensive attitude. I have seen Umar Akmal's batting and he is much better than Joker Farhat. He is aggressive too and plays well under pressure. malik is woefully out of form and maybe near his career end. time to introduce some young blood. Misbah,, Jamshed are good enough for Int'l cricket in batting. Kamran is OK OK. Hafeez is keeping his place only because of his additional bowling skills. 3 other places are up for taking. PAK cricket future depends upon filling this 3-4 batting places. Bowling as we know is fine. Need to gradually improve fielding skills though.

  • Resultpredictor on June 10, 2013, 18:31 GMT

    Pakistan batting is in deep crisis. Pakistan batting is worst than Ireland and Afghanistan. Pakistan first learn how to bat then play international cricket.

  • on June 10, 2013, 18:30 GMT

    I don't know what's going in the Pakistan team no one batsman doing well in this tournament .Pakistan management did very big mistake to drop player like Umar akmal afridi razzak and younus .yousuf. Pakistan young guns are good in only domestic level . south Africa doing good job with ball.lets see what will happen in this match . with India Pakistan will definitely trouble we have very good batsman and very good bowler too. waiting to watch India vs. Pakistan match.

  • Iddo555 on June 10, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    SA bowling is weak without stein and morkel and Pakistan are making it look like the best bowling attack there has ever been

    Poor batting line up. Is 200 possible? Not with this Pakistan line up

  • aiksa on June 10, 2013, 17:53 GMT

    Irony of Pakistan cricket team is that it has an excellent bowling attack but its batting is below international standard. Most of the batsmen not only lack the technique but also the mental toughness required at international level. They come under pressure too easily particularly when chasing. They lack confidence and self belief. PCB really needs to work on this.

  • SirViv1973 on June 10, 2013, 17:47 GMT

    @GRVJPR, In regards to Ind winning this, they have done well so far but the conditions have been in their favor with it having stay dry & sunny. Over the next week or so we will see a lot more cloud cover & damper conditions so a lot more questions will be asked of both Ind's batsman & seamers. If Ind are to be successful they will need a plan B the conditions going forward will not allow them to chalk up 300 plus & then see the opposition batsman fold by the spinners keeping it tight & scoreboard pressure.

  • Jda123 on June 10, 2013, 17:42 GMT

    Pakistan are done, 49-3 at 19 overs.... no fire power to come in.

    Pakistan lose another game and crash out.

    From what we have seen ignoring the next match up as it is pointless.

    Farhat - Malik career in the international side should be over.

  • SirViv1973 on June 10, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    3 down & Pakistan looking pretty clueless chasing a parish score. I'm not too sure why Misbah, their best batsman is coming in at 5. Although he can play big shots he has always seemed more of an accumulator to me surely when they are not chasing a huge score it would be better to have him come in at 3 with Hafeez opening & Shafiq coming in to the middle order.

  • on June 10, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Good bowling by South Africa, what Pakistan needs is a plan in short bursts

  • yuvi_gladiator on June 10, 2013, 17:36 GMT

    its going to be really hard from here... omg they get stuck everytime

  • on June 10, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    Insha Allah pakistan will win . now cheer up :)

  • on June 10, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    Go Pakistan! There is still hope. Inshaallah, we will win.

  • roook on June 10, 2013, 17:17 GMT

    How many chances Imran Farhat would get Ahmed shezad gave decent performance in T20 he is far better than pathetic Farhat

  • Retour on June 10, 2013, 17:14 GMT

    Poor tactics by AB/SA. 1)Took the Batting PP early: SA needed a partnership at that point. And they had just taken 10 off Malik's over w/o risks. Forced Amla to change its game. Allowed Pak to bring back its key bolwer. 2) Had Duminy coming in at PP, esp. when he is not that great against spinners. Could have promoted someone like Peterson. 3) Makes unnecessary bowling changes: Tsotsobe had bowled 5 over for 6. Could have allowed him to bowl at least a couple of overs more to create additional pressure on the bowling side and leverage on his rhythm. How many times have we seen a bowler bowl a good spell, only to follow up with a bad 2nd spell.

  • Resultpredictor on June 10, 2013, 17:13 GMT

    Pakistan batsman started to go back pavilion without making much score. Pakistan cannot make more than 200. Congrats SA for victory. Sorry Pakistan for elimination

  • aby__prasad on June 10, 2013, 17:12 GMT

    This total is either too much or too less...meaning this wont be a close one. Either pak will win this comfortably or lose by a big margin. Whatever happens today, will give us an idea as to what a good score is on a track where the ball has something to say. Heartening to see so many run outs and catches from a pakistani side. Earlier I used to get angry at the way they field. Misbah again leads from the front!..Oh btw.. oh boy, amla strikes form..bad news for all the teams :P

  • on June 10, 2013, 16:57 GMT

    Pakistan team we all are with you plz dont worry we support u everywhere u can do it

  • Iddo555 on June 10, 2013, 16:52 GMT

    Pakistan can't bat, this will be the second game they don't make 200

  • on June 10, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    Hope they win both the matches

  • GRVJPR on June 10, 2013, 16:49 GMT

    @Greatest_Game Mate my all predictions are spot on. I told before that young Indian side whome no one is giving a sniff of a chance will win this trophy. Wait and watch the royal thrashing of pakistan today.

  • Greatest_Game on June 10, 2013, 16:38 GMT

    OH NO! @ GRVJPR has predicted that "Pakistan will loose this comfortabley today as their batting can'ts core even 150 runs." As his predictions have been predictably wrong, this is giving me a really bad feeling. I hope that for once he is right today.

  • PAKISTANiLive on June 10, 2013, 16:12 GMT

    Pakistan need not to take risks now, the total is chase able, Pakistan need to do well!!Hopefully, Pak will win this!

  • GRVJPR on June 10, 2013, 16:11 GMT

    Pakistan will loose this comfortabley today as their batting can'ts core even 150 runs. On the other hand Hashim Amla could have been out 5 times but pakistani catching is not even club level.

  • Speng on June 10, 2013, 16:04 GMT

    SA have 3 good spinners?! Since when? In the absence of decent fast bowling i.e. Morkel or Steyn the SA bowling lineup looks a bit toothless. Having said that it is Pakistan so anything can happen.

  • P4K1ST4N_7 on June 10, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    Sensational fielding performance by Pakistan.............Misbah, wow...you fielded like a 18 year old athlete. And Pakistani bowlers kept them under control.

  • on June 10, 2013, 15:48 GMT

    I think it's a good enough total to defend. With the kind of batting Pakistan have, it's difficult to chase 235 on this track imo. But still I hope they chase and win this match.

  • yuvi_gladiator on June 10, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    its easy to figure out from David Millers innings today on what a big difference there is between the level of international cricket and the first class t20 leagues around the world. it is easy to hit average bowlers out of the park in IPL but it can be very different in international cricket a lot of times

  • on June 10, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    Good come back by pakistan. They certainly tighten things upwhen power play taken.

    Still a good score. This pitch will get more dry and more slow. SA has 3 good spinners.

    Pak will have to bat very well.

    Good to see malik bowling good. But 1 thing I fail to understand irfan and hunaid not bowling 10 overs. Specially irfan he would have been good than wajab who was expensive.

  • on June 10, 2013, 15:07 GMT

    195/5, 43 overs. Pakistan back in it, BIG TIME !

  • kamriyas on June 10, 2013, 14:26 GMT

    Anything around 175 to 200 is good score for South Africa. Pakistan can never chase a score above 200.

  • wanatawu on June 10, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Amla does look good today - such a pleasure to watch and he do like batting in England

  • on June 10, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    I said this when SA playing against India and again going to say this against my Home team. The way Hashim Amla plays what could I say "Form is temporary and Class is permanent ". I admit no doubt SA holds two worlds best batsmen Amla and DeVillers.

  • NP_NY on June 10, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    I think Pak is making another mistake with the batting order today. They should have kept Shafiq, dropped Farhat and let Akmal open with Jamshed. Farhat is a hit or miss, mostly a miss going by his past performances.

  • NP_NY on June 10, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    I think Pak is making another mistake with the batting order today. They should have kept Shafiq, dropped Farhat and let Akmal open with Jamshed. Farhat is a hit or miss, mostly a miss going by his past performances.

  • on June 10, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    I said this when SA playing against India and again going to say this against my Home team. The way Hashim Amla plays what could I say "Form is temporary and Class is permanent ". I admit no doubt SA holds two worlds best batsmen Amla and DeVillers.

  • wanatawu on June 10, 2013, 14:03 GMT

    Amla does look good today - such a pleasure to watch and he do like batting in England

  • kamriyas on June 10, 2013, 14:26 GMT

    Anything around 175 to 200 is good score for South Africa. Pakistan can never chase a score above 200.

  • on June 10, 2013, 15:07 GMT

    195/5, 43 overs. Pakistan back in it, BIG TIME !

  • on June 10, 2013, 15:34 GMT

    Good come back by pakistan. They certainly tighten things upwhen power play taken.

    Still a good score. This pitch will get more dry and more slow. SA has 3 good spinners.

    Pak will have to bat very well.

    Good to see malik bowling good. But 1 thing I fail to understand irfan and hunaid not bowling 10 overs. Specially irfan he would have been good than wajab who was expensive.

  • yuvi_gladiator on June 10, 2013, 15:42 GMT

    its easy to figure out from David Millers innings today on what a big difference there is between the level of international cricket and the first class t20 leagues around the world. it is easy to hit average bowlers out of the park in IPL but it can be very different in international cricket a lot of times

  • on June 10, 2013, 15:48 GMT

    I think it's a good enough total to defend. With the kind of batting Pakistan have, it's difficult to chase 235 on this track imo. But still I hope they chase and win this match.

  • P4K1ST4N_7 on June 10, 2013, 15:56 GMT

    Sensational fielding performance by Pakistan.............Misbah, wow...you fielded like a 18 year old athlete. And Pakistani bowlers kept them under control.

  • Speng on June 10, 2013, 16:04 GMT

    SA have 3 good spinners?! Since when? In the absence of decent fast bowling i.e. Morkel or Steyn the SA bowling lineup looks a bit toothless. Having said that it is Pakistan so anything can happen.