Champions Trophy 2013

Odds shorten on Champions Trophy repeat

George Dobell

June 22, 2013

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Tillakaratne Dilshan gets chased by his team-mates, Australia v Sri Lanka, Champions Trophy, Group A, The Oval, June 17, 2013
The Champions Trophy has proved popular with players and spectators © AFP

The 2013 Champions Trophy has been deemed such a success that it appears highly likely that the competition will be repeated.

The ICC had originally decided to replace the competition with a Test Championship and the 2013 tournament would be the last one. But after excellent crowds and interest from around the world, the ICC are reconsidering that decision and will discuss their options at their annual conference, from June 25-29 in London.

The ICC remain keen to promote Test cricket and feel a Test Championship would complement the World T20 and the World Cup and ensure there was a high-profile competition for each of the three formats of the game. While continuing the Champions Trophy would mean there were two global 50-over events, it is now thought there is sufficient difference between the Champions Trophy and the World Cup and sufficient interest from broadcasters for both to survive.

The Test Championship is pencilled into the Future Tours Programme (FTP) for a three-week window in June 2017 in the UK. But the concept in its present guise is compromised by the fact that it would involve just four teams - the top four teams in the Test rankings - and would feature only three games: two semi-finals and a final. As such, it would be of less relevance and interest to those nations not participating and may be less attractive to broadcasters. There is little scope in the FTP for a longer event or a change in venue.

The ICC privately acknowledges that, even if the event was held successfully in 2017, there is a concern over its sustainability. Among their issues is the possibility that one of the key nations in terms of broadcast revenues, most obviously India, might not always be ranked among the top four Test nations, while there is also a concern that, outside the UK, games between neutral countries may not be well supported. The ICC is keen to avoid a situation where its flagship Test event is played in near-empty stadiums.

While the final of the 2013 Champions Trophy is threatened by poor weather, 12 of the 15 games will have had sell-out crowds (defined as a minimum 95% of the ground capacity) with the multicultural population of the UK helping guarantee enthusiastic audiences at most games. Sensible ticket pricing has also played a part.

The Champions Trophy has, for much of its existence, been unloved. But the short, sharp format involving only the top eight sides playing for only 18 days in which nearly every game has a consequence has captured the imagination of the cricket-watching public. By contrast, the 2011 World Cup lasted six weeks and featured some tediously one-sided encounters.

There is a chance that the 2013 trophy may have to be shared as rain threatens to intervene in the final. Such is the frenetic international schedule it was deemed impossible to allocate reserve days. England and New Zealand, for example, play a T20 on Tuesday, just two days after the Champions Trophy final, while Australia being their Ashes preparations in earnest on Wednesday when they start a four-day match against Somerset.

Whatever its faults, the strengths of the Champions Trophy format have been apparent over the last couple of weeks and, as the details of a Test Championship are considered in more detail, the Trophy has arguably never appeared so attractive.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by P.BIPULKUMAR on (June 24, 2013, 23:54 GMT)

ICC Champions Trophy should be continue but in different format . Top 5 team will play in a round robin league and a final that could be called Elite CT & Bottom 5 will play in another round robin league and a final that can be titled Plate CT. As far as test championship is concern , all test team should have to play same number of series in a four year circle . Each and every series will count to determine the winner.A result of 1-0, 2-1, 3-2will give same points ; 0-0, 1-1, 2-2 will give same points too.While a whitewash of 3-0,4-0, will give same points.Series should played home and away basis , The team will earn highest points after four year circle , will be declared winner ....

Posted by Shubham18 on (June 24, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

I think ICC should use Champions Trophy as a knock-out cup between the Top-10 teams with 2 groups of 5 teams each, with the current format.

Instead of reducing the no. of teams in the World Cup, ICC should make it compulsory for every team to play qualifiers let it be of 8 groups of 3 teams each with each team facing each other once or twice and the top teams from each group qualify along with the next top 4 teams of all teams. So even teams like USA will get chance to play against top teams.

I think the idea of a Test Championship cannot work because of too much home advantage factor. Though having a Test series in which India-Pakistan make one team and England-Australia make another could be the next big thing. Just think how great it would be, two biggest rivalries fighting together. Or even India-Aus and Eng-Pak as this will make both teams equal in almost every aspect, they will become the two invisible teams of all time !!!

Posted by Al_Pinto on (June 24, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

A three-match Test Championship, with the first match being a semifinal. What a joke! Imagine how many people will watch if those four teams were NZ, WI, SL, and England.

Posted by murthydn16 on (June 24, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

@Darth_Whore :-), Finals in Alaska or Siberia or maybe even Antarctica, thats funny. Could be even Mars also. But this event organised by ICC was a complete sham with no proper planning and foresight at all. Complete mess. Ask some one to mess and ICC will be readily available. There is 365 days in a year, out which can't ICC reserve one more day for a final!!!!!!.

Posted by Rahul79 on (June 24, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

I think champions trophy should be played between top 5 icc ranking teams in a round-robin format and 1 final.

Posted by darth_whore on (June 24, 2013, 7:33 GMT)

World cup should be played like IPL. 12 teams, everyone plays with every other team, twice, home and away. Then the final four can play semi finals, and the last two finals at neutral venues like Alaska or Siberia or maybe even Antarctica. The winner will be a real world champion.

Posted by   on (June 24, 2013, 3:48 GMT)

To make World cup intresting i think there should be two groups of 5-5 teams and then a direct semi-final between top teams of the groups .ICT should continue with same format.Even if they include a Knock out stage for the lowest ranked 89 and 10th team it would make it more interesting.

Posted by NP_NY on (June 23, 2013, 21:05 GMT)

@Mostakim Shuvo: I disagree. Champions trophy should be competed by all the teams that have a chance of winning it. In this tournament every team had a chance to win it. If BD had played, they may have caused an upset but that's about it. I am sure BD fans will disagree but that's the truth. So unless BD can compete with the top teams "consistently", I am afraid they won't be playing the champions trophy.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 21:02 GMT)

I do like a major test tournament as well. Yeah this ICC Champions trophy was good but most of the games was hampered by rain. Other than this it was good game, England board must think of stadiums where they can close with ceiling when it is raining and do not allow the rain to effect the game.

Posted by NP_NY on (June 23, 2013, 21:00 GMT)

The Indian win might just have saved Champions trophy. But make no mistake, ICC did mess this up big time. If ICC continues to take fans for granted, the game WILL suffer.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 20:57 GMT)

Good News....It must stay to save d 50 over game.....

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 20:09 GMT)

I think champions trophy resume to top 6 ODI teams and each team play against each other i.e robin league bases it would be more attractive and successful.

For WC there should be at least 16 teams. Consist of 4 groups so it seems like a real worldcup.

Recently Afghanistan, Ireland and Netherlands improves there games so they must be part of each worldcup without playing qualifier

Posted by Edassery on (June 23, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

Wherever Indian crowd is there, there will be success despite rains, injuries to key players or under-performance by several leading teams! But Financial success of the game doesn't mean that Cricket is benefited or quality cricket being played!!!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

Maybe it should do back to resembling its original knock-out format, but with 16 teams. So as not to have many low-revenue matches, two matches per day first round (1 a day-night), and in the first round the teams ranked 5th to 8th draw the teams ranked 9th to 12th, making for exciting games, but avoiding the risk of India being eliminated first round. The matches involving Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Ireland etc against the big boys would be very exciting as it's straight knock-out! Quarter and Semi-Finals one per day 1 match per day, and a very different format to World Cup

Posted by BornforRevolution on (June 23, 2013, 17:03 GMT)

How about an Inter-Continental cup.??? say like Asia-Including Indian,Sri Lankan, pakistani and Bangladeshi players for example??? that would no wonder be very competitive

Posted by jmcilhinney on (June 23, 2013, 16:37 GMT)

For all the derogatory talk before the tournament, this CT has turned out to be rather entertaining and quite high quality. The biggest issue has been the rain, especially now that it looks like the final might not get completed. That is definitely something that needs to be looked at for any future global tournament. I'd say that, all up, this CT format is probably better than the WC. It has managed to hold everyone's interest because all games have been relevant and the whole thing hasn't been too long. I just don't think that there needs to two ODI tournaments and I just don't think that cricket can afford to exclude teams like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh and all the associates and expect interest to continue to grow. Something's got to give and I think that it's going to have to be the CT.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 16:30 GMT)

I personally found the tournament boring. There were very few exciting matches to remember(talk about the top 8 teams!). And who want's to watch a T20 final in an ICC ODI championship match? The T20 final was last year. Too much rain. Why is the acompanying article "the best eight?, only the top 3 matter" closed for comments after it was written yesterday(22/6/2013)by Jarrod Kimber. Good read for a cricket fan. I even heard M. Holding about changing rules(time extension by 1 hr. in final) during the tournament as not good referring to the WI match. The ICC should be decisive one way or the other and not waver too much. Any positives should be implemented in the WC.

Posted by alarky on (June 23, 2013, 15:07 GMT)

What is the hurry to drop Sarwan? I think the guy is still not playing WI cricket with any confidence, due to past lingerings! And dropping him after mix success in recent matches won't help the situation! I must confess that I'm one who also think that Sammy should not be Captain for the 3 formats of the game. However, based on some of what I'm hearing from Dwayne Bravo's press conferences, I think that the captaincy has been given to the wrong man! Eg: WI are scheduled to play a powerful team like SA in a very important fixture and Captain Bravo is mocking the South African team: "they are known to choke on big occasions"! I guess Mr Bravo thought that he was writing a soca song where respect for all is uaually a scarce commodity! Then, in the aftermath of a match where his team is being booted out of an important international tournament, he's telling us that the team is "SATISFIED" with how they play! What nonsense! We can't have captains SATISFYING with half measure performances!

Posted by Anneeq on (June 23, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

With or without the test championship there should only be ONE international world ODI tournament, the world cup. I personally dont see how a test match world cup would work, it sounds good and yes it would theoretically give test cricket some kind of context, but it would only feasibly involve 4 teams. Could that really be a global tournament?? The Champions trophy can come back in the future as cricket's version of FIFA's 'Confederations Cup.' Then itd truly be a 'Champions trophy.' The T20 championships should take place once every 4 years as well instead of 2.

Re ODI world cup, there has to be a proper process of qualification, iv been saying for a while that only the top 4 in the rankings should automatically qualify and the rest should play qualification matches with the Associates and a couple of the top Affiliates home and away, that way the Associates and Affiliates get quality opposition regularly and therefore increase the sports profiles in these countries....

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

Please don't have cricket competition in England, who historically have the worst weather about this time of the year. It just ruins the competition. I for one have enjoy 50 overs cricket just a pity it is going be a T20 now. if it is a wash out the the two teams should meet again to decide who is the winner. The weather giving England their only chance of winning , I have to say that Boooom!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 14:50 GMT)

The format is what's made it useful, knockout cricket is what matter. This format should be replicated for the World Cup only with 16 teams and quarter finals.

And id much rather watch these matches than T20!!!!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 14:02 GMT)

Firstly get rid of these bilateral series, completely pointless. Better of having small triseries or quadrangular series. If u can't get rid of them then shorten it. These days any ODI series has a minimum of 4 ODI's. Just ridiculous and and too repetitive. I don't see how that many ODI's will even generate revenue as people will eventually get sick of cricket. And don't forget unlike other sports, cricket goes for 8 hrs. If u are having that many ODI's people will stop watching cricket completely oneday. forget ODI's even tests, although majority of tests generally are played by team in the summer season holidays from Australian point of view and hence watchable

Posted by jackiethepen on (June 23, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

The ODIs are proper games of skill and duration for players. We've seem some really good games and no one can say the better team lost. T20 tournaments are just hit and miss as far as results are concerned. ODIs are very popular in England despite the pundits' attempts to kill the game by demeaning it all the time. Same goes for 40 over cricket at County level. Full grounds in the CT tell their own story. England usually get a full house for their ODIs. Fans are keen to see England players. Why try to cut out such a popular form of the game? Seems madness. There is too much talk of 'dying a slow death' whether it is Test cricket, ODIs or t20. Perhaps bandwagons ought to be abandoned and let the game succeed in all formats.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

I wish the ICC would stop destroying our cricketers. As it is now they play too much and the CT trophy 2013 turned out to be nothing but a flop. We hardly had decent games. Time,money wasted for no reason.

Please ICC or should I ask the BCCI stop this useless trophy and let our players rest for God sake.

Posted by martonimp on (June 23, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

For me a World Test Championship is a non-starter. The format of test cricket is unique in sport and was never intended to be a tournament. Also the hard fought draw heroically achieved by a last wicket pair would hae no place in a WTC but is one of the joys of the game - remember Cardiff!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

Im a srilankan [ cricket fan ] who lives in japan and watching all the2013 champions trophy matches from start to end.When a match starts in england, here is very late night and i m watching them till end of the match . its about 5.30 am in next day... So by watching an international cricket tournement is Very interesting than watching a domestic tournement. cricket fans like us needs and like to watch more and more international tournements in future than domestic tournements...

Posted by swarzi on (June 23, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

Cont'd: We should all remember, that we owe the founding fathers of what is arguably the best sporting discipline on earth, the responsibility to maintain the traditional/purest format by doing whatever is necessary to improve it along the lines where it can always compete with all the other sporting fields! Hence, this 'money grab and greed culture' which is now being allowed to destroy the sport needs to end - even if it means getting rid of the formats that are threatening its existence! I say all this just to say that a formal periodic test cricket championship tournament is imperative to bring the sport level with the others. So let us all get together and do whatever is necessary to oranise a successful test match champions tournament.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 11:55 GMT)

What a waste of a tournament. The past two weeks will count for nothing if there is no play today, and even there was, it makes a mockery of calling it a 50 over competition and deciding it with a 20 over game. There can't be many other sports where the result is decided by the weather. I cannot believe, in this day and age that a provisional day hasn't been set aside for the final.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 11:50 GMT)

Personally, I believe the ICC Champions Trophy is better than the ICC World Cup.

I would like to see some form of test championship though... Good luck to the ICC to sort it all out, with all the T20 cricket demanded...

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 11:48 GMT)

A good news, ODI can earn more money than T20, prepare sporty pitches; people will gather. par score 235-270, no effect of toss will attract crowed. T 20 is a stupid format and will not last longer. ICC must concentrate on giving opportunity to every test nation to play more matches. it will help to raise the status of test cricket than a test championship involves only 4 nations.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 11:40 GMT)

May the interest appears to be high due to a simple fact that it was the Last Champions Trophy Tournament?

Posted by Nutcutlet on (June 23, 2013, 11:36 GMT)

I don't see how a Test Championship is feasible as the very nature of TC would inevitably make it a long-drawn out affair (& there may be a pun in there but it wasn't intentional) Besides, the logistics involved would make some WWI military campaigns look like PlaySchool. A competition like the current TC is as close as cricket needs/wants to come to a world cup, outside the T20 WC (which rightly involves a greater number of teams). England is undoubtedly the right country to hold the CT as it does not impact on the cricket season in the Southern Hemisphere & the multicultural natue of UK society ensures a special atmosphere that frankly is missing in all other venues with the growing exception of the big Australian cities. When it is properly organized (dead matches at a minimum / over & done within three weeks) it has massive appeal & if only English & Welsh weather would play ball, then it would be a comp to look forward to every three or four years. Reserve days are also required!

Posted by valvolux on (June 23, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

So funny. The only reason people were getting tired of it was because Australia dominated it. England and India do well...all of a sudden their supporters and media want to keep it! Same with the world cup. After Australia won two without losing a game....its apparently the worst tournament ever and 50 over cricket is dead. India wins - the world cup is amazing! No one wantss to scrap a format they get results in..but when you suck at it, people tend to get on their high horse aand want it scrapped. I personally don't mind the ct....the world cup should only feature these teams. And one things for sure, this should be the last limited covers tournament ever held in the UK. If 50% of matches are rain affected and 50 overs can't be bowled...its more a tournament of luck and maths. Sorry is a summer sport, so unless you can find a summer, you shouldn't be hosting anything!

Posted by Punit.Acharya on (June 23, 2013, 11:19 GMT)

I believe there can also be champions trophy T20 having the Top 4 T20 sides..while the World T20 can be held once in every four years. Meaningless Bi-lateral ODI's must be cut down...It these tournaments like Champions trophy that will keep the ODI format at bay else it will surely die a slow death. ICC Test Championship is technically not possible considering the sheer magnitude of time required for a completed series involving the Top test nations..unless and until the top 2 Test Teams play a 2 Test matches in Home-Away conditions.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

I agree that CT should be continued in future. But I want to mention that the last two teams should come up through a qualifying tournament. Ranking no 7-10 teams may participate in this tournament.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 10:54 GMT)

A better way to format the Test Champion ship is to follow a system similar to the Davis cup in tennis, where all the test playing nations play each other at one time simultaneously at their respected countries. Eg 1 vs 8, 2vs7,3vs6, 4vs5, over a 5 test series (Home and Away), and the then the winners (the Top 4), can play in the "Test Championship" in a semi final , final format in the highest ranking country etc.

By doing it this way it solves the problem of only picking the top 4 ranked countries (which can be a very arbitrary measurement), and ensures that all tests are valued (therefore no dead rubbers in normal test series, have to win every test match to get points or increase percentages).

Posted by epochery on (June 23, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

remember the first three world cups were held in England, perhaps the champions trophy can have a permanent home in the UK. But perhaps this can lead to a change in format for the world cup. Four groups of 4 perhaps leading to 1/4 finals, ditch the super sixes.

Posted by Timmuh on (June 23, 2013, 10:33 GMT)

What purpose does the CT serve? The WC decides the 50 over champions, CT is some kind of supplementary prize. The only reasons to keep the CT going are money, and it allows te ICC to reverse the decision to cut back on WC teams from 2019 onwards/ It is absolutely vital to the future of the sport that the WC allows some smaller nations to be seen, and something to aim forwhere they ca test themselves on a big stage. The Test Championship as proposed is a problem as well. Fir four years everything is decided by series, then all of a sudden the pinnacle is supposed to be a couple of one-off matches in a format where a draw is a real possibility,

Posted by yorkslanka on (June 23, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

definately a good idea to keep going with this tournament and scrap a test championship..leave test cricekt as it is, if enough people are interested, it will survive. what the icc must do is stop any board from cancelling test matches.All test series should be three matches and all one day series should be five. tournaments like the champions league should be crapped as its pointless.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

Please have T20 WC once in 4 years , so that Champions Trophy can accommodated... More over Test championship should have been started ,when likes of Tendulkar, Lara, Pointing , Dravid , VVS, were playing , that could have fetched more response from the cricket lovers

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 10:12 GMT)

ICC test championship may not be very attractive due to the fact only 4 teams will participate. The reason why ICC champions trophy is so attractive this year is because of the venue, pitches and game setup. England is the best place to held cricket because of the fan base. Every team gets a reasonable support in the crowd, the pitches this year are good meaning supporting all the teams, pitches are balanced. Personally I like more bowling focused pitches because batsmen already has so many advantages over the bowlers these days. Lastly every game in this tournament meant something, less number matches that were dead rubber. Where as world cup oh god its boring till you get to the 2nd round. I think world cup should have 3 groups. 12 teams in 3 groups. first 2 groups will have top 8 teams (India, SA, Eng,Sri,Aus,Pak,NZ,WI) and the 3rd group with minnows. 2 teams qualify from 1 st round, 2nd round 6 teams left. 2nd round 2 groups, 3 and 3. Top 2 teams play semi final

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 10:09 GMT)

test is better than playing the champions trophy

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 10:07 GMT)

Please have T20 WC once in 4 years , so that Champions Trophy can accommodated... More over Test championship should have been started ,when likes of Tendulkar, Lara, Pointing , Dravid , VVS, were playing , that could have fetched more response from the cricket lovers

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

One thing that has really helped this CT has been holding the tournament in England where there are lots of fans of all the teams has meant the crowds have been large and diverse and added to this whether through design or coincidence the pitches have suited all the teams in the tournament rather than favouring one or two teams in particular

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

yeah, Finally they got the format right and now they are ending it :(

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

great news, love to hear that ICC is reconsidering on this.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 8:41 GMT)

i think CT should continue. already we are seeing a dip in number of international matches because of countless t20 leagues and time spend on t20. ipl alone is 2 months long. such ICC format should continue. this CT was a hit.

Rightly mentioned in article that test championship may not be that much of success because of only top4 ranked teams participating. And if some giants not in there then it would have been a failure. For example if india not in that text championship it will be huge loss. Ranking of any team not guaranteed . and rankings change so quickly. few months ago, just because of 2 bad series india were no 5 before SA whitewash over pak. and if that happens just before test CS, it would be disaster to not have india in there. or any other big teams like Aus.

CT should go. icc should try to reduce no of days spend on t20 leagues around world.

Posted by rock.rockyin on (June 23, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

Relax guys the tournament is huge success from the host country ENG point of view. It's a sell out crowd for most matches . TV viewership more than expected as this a world tournament and everyone passionate abt crick has watched other teams matches as well . I have never seen much euphoria from my English colleagues abt crick apart from ASHES. Every where the TVs in offices are showing crick . Come on guys most of you who are criticizing are living out of UK I believe . Consider from host country point of view. UK is one country next to INDIA who can generate huge profit purely due Asian community , expats from AUS, wi NZ SA and English viewers . If champ trophy is conducted again in ENG I say pls conduct in JULY. India and England should work together on monetary lines to construct two indoor stadiums in England. Why India ? At present 80 percent money comes frm India and 20 percent from other countries for cricket events .

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

champions trophy to be continued

Posted by rpahuja on (June 23, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

Replacing 50 over tournament with Test Match format does not make sense. ICC should continue holding Champions Trophy. For pulling more spectators for matches, tournament should be held only in England or India, countries which will constantly ensure good turn outs in stadia.

Posted by Harvey on (June 23, 2013, 7:31 GMT)

No. Let it die a natural death. The reason the crowds have turned out for this is the fact that the ECB did a good job in promoting it and have (very unusually for the ECB) made the ticket prices cheap. Most of the people watching in the ground are people who have been priced out of watching the Ashes. The reason TV audiences have been better than expected is that both the home side and India have done well. Most of the cricket has been absolutely dire, with most teams looking as if they don't care. The India v Sri Lanka semi-final was one of the worst games of cricket I have ever had the misfortune to pay to see, and I'm someone who has watched a lot of cricket. Were Sri Lanka even trying?

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 7:26 GMT)

why are we scrapping the champions trophy? why not truly have a "champions" trophy? i mean lets say the champions of odi, test, t20 world cups, play against each other in the champions trophy. that means as per current status it should be india, south africa and west indies who play against each other in a triangular series of test odis and t20s in a little more than 1 month. so it will be 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 t20s overall. the 9 matches will have points and the team with the maximum points becomes the champion of champions by winning the champions trophy (for tests winning outright can have more points, otherwise it can be decided via first inings lead)! another twist can be given to this by making it a quarangular champions trophy by adding a challenger country who has the best and most consistent icc ranking across all 3 formats apart from the 3 champions (currently england)! then it will be 6 tests, 6 odis and 6 t20s across max 2 months! what do u say guys? - Annz N Dipz

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 7:16 GMT)

@mx Shani:

Aaaargh not ANOTHER T20 tournament !!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 6:58 GMT)

I would suggest running both championships (CT & Test Championship) in an alternating manner: A CT tournament this time, and Test Championship next time and so on.

Posted by IPSY on (June 23, 2013, 6:56 GMT)

I too think that it would be a case of good sense would prevailing if the ICC prolongs the life of the Champions Trophy! I think by now we all agree that it is definitely the best tournament in terms of the quality of cricket that it produces. Hence, I too was asking why shpuld we get rid of the best cricket when we should be trying to improve the quality of the sport?

Posted by StevieS on (June 23, 2013, 6:52 GMT)

I think a large part of it's success is that we have been bombarded by 20/20 cricket tournaments over the last few years.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 6:49 GMT)

Champions Trophy have to be Continue ....... with cricket we can improve Relationship between countries as well as Cricket

Posted by GermanPlayer on (June 23, 2013, 6:48 GMT)

India in final = tournament is a success!

Posted by TriniBourbon on (June 23, 2013, 6:19 GMT)

One of the greatest challenges facing Test Cricket is the fact that effectively there is a distinct possibility of spending 5 days with a match ending as a draw. Which isnt that easily packaged for an audience which may find it not as entertaining. Why not have a 3 (or 5...which would lengthen the entire thing) round robin home and away series between all the test nations on a similar model of first class cricket where you can earn first innings points and points for winning outright? (Say for example 4 points for having a higher first innings total and 12 for winning outright, with the 12 points being split in the event of a tie, and the total points from the game tabulated for each team. In the event of rain ruining the game, 8pts each.). By having all test playing nations play the same amount of games in a series (at least over a 4yr period, home and away) a "league" table could be tabulated, and if thought necessary the top 4 for a final tournament at a neutral venue.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 6:13 GMT)

What they should prune is a lot of bi-lateral and trilateral ODI series. Some bi-lateral series are nauseatingly frequent!

Posted by npc_cricketlover on (June 23, 2013, 6:01 GMT)

it would be great to see CT trophy back. But given that we even have t20 WC and 50over WC, this makes it in a way redundant. However we can consider having it once in 4 years(as it is since 2009). To pull crowd to neutral team matches, the best thing is to have such matches played in tier-1 cities(as population is more and there is a chance that more foreigners would be living in such cities) and most of the home team matches in tier-2 cities. Although t20 WC is very exciting, i feel to maintain the value of it, it is better to cut it to once in 4yrs. And we need to have test championship too

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 5:58 GMT)

I think ICC should consider to replace Champions Trophy with Champions Trophy T20 with top eight teams competing in double round robin at group stage .

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 5:45 GMT)

The crowds were more because it's the last champion's trophy.mark my words: there wont be more crowds next time around. It's time that ICC should stop behaving like a commercially hungry organisation and start focusing on decisions and laws. I've been noticing that the ICC only focuses on commercial value of something.. The best example is the IPL season in South Africa. The English Premier league management decided to have a season in Hong Kong and FIFA restricted them since it would affect the local football league in Hong Kong. ICC needs to learn something and make decisions like an "organisation". They should not continue this tournament anymore.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 5:44 GMT)


Now that India and England reached the finale, makes it a great success ! Time will come when Cricket will be a business only, run by Aus, Eng, and Ind....... ........ ......... It's no more a global game........ it's a business...............

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 5:11 GMT)

ICC Is Absolute No Brain People!! Some Rules in Cricket Makes People Laugh @ Cricket.. Ex: No Runners Allowed when a Batsman Injured in Ground while a Sub Fielder can Enter the Ground when another Fielder Going to D Room for a Drink... ICC Should be More Intelligent than this!! if Not We Won't See Cricket Dominance in the World!! CT (Mini World Cup) is a Magnificence form a Cricket Specially Battle between only Best 8 Teams.. Feel Very Sad When Hearing No More ICC CT's... ICC Have to Reconsider the Decision for Sure!!

Posted by ARad on (June 23, 2013, 5:01 GMT)

India does not have a multi-culti audience. Australia does not either for that matter. Countries besides the Big Three would have an even tougher time if they host the next Champion's Trophy. If England had been hopeless and if the final were between NZ & SL, it wouldn't have filled the ground even in England. I don't think this tournament worthy of continuation rather than the Test Championship. When you spread things, you run out of spread at some point. Also, this tournament has not been a very memorable tournament if you look at the individual games. I can't recall much from last week already but I still recall S Dawan's debut Test innings against Australia, for example. Test series create the bigger narrative that is hard to quantify but, without it, cricket becomes throwaway entertainment. It is just another thing on TV, like a Reality TV show, that you'd watch and instantly forget.

Posted by maddy20 on (June 23, 2013, 4:42 GMT)

@Umar Riaz WC 2007 was a financial disaster for the ICC. The early exit of Ind and Pak meant that those who purchased tickets in anticipation of an Ind vs Pak game had to conted with watching Ireland play Bangladesh. Needless to say the sponsors were not happy and the stands were mostly empty. Ultimately it comes down to financial equations my friend. Nothing else matters! This tournament could not have come at a better time for the England and Wales cricket board as many of their counties are struggling for survival.

Posted by srriaj317 on (June 23, 2013, 4:33 GMT)

This is just an indicator of how much financial bias there is towards India nowadays. They only want to keep tournaments where India has a chance of making the finals and winning - precisely why the more important Test Championship idea was shot down last year. Once their youngsters have developed and become stronger, the BCCI will force ICC into staging the Test Championship. After the 2015 WC in Australia where they might lose, the WC might get scrapped for the Champions Trophy instead!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 4:14 GMT)

It will also be good for the game if ICC can think about the weather conditions of a particular country during that season while awarding the tournament. Nobody wants to see a tournament where-in D/L method is used in 50% or more matches.

Posted by Chetan007 on (June 23, 2013, 3:56 GMT)

Test Championship(TC) should be made a knockout tournament if needed increase the number of days from 5 to 6 in that championship only. If it's a knockout tournament than ICC can include atleast 8 nations for this lovely event. If it's a four nation tournament than it could be any nation that could be left out. If it's a 8 nation tournament than there will be no problem of host nation playing in the event or not. CT should be played after the Test championship. If there's any loss with TC than it could be adjusted up with CT for that financial year. Both these TC and CT should be played from 2021 since ICC has already prepared FTP and there might be some issues with the sponsors of the tournament to be played in 2017.

Posted by SharathforCricket on (June 23, 2013, 3:51 GMT)

I feel it is like misreading the cause-effect. Higher viewership might have to be attributed to this edition being the last edition and not because audience loved it. It could be one possible reason. So if it is a success in its general terms, audience would love more to world cup if they miss out of CT. But Test Championship sounds like a brilliant concept but feasibility and format would be key success factors

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 3:25 GMT)

Champions Trophy must stay. Great Cricket!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 3:22 GMT)

ICC keep the Champions Trophy and remove the ICC 50 over World Cup.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 3:16 GMT)

Because India reached the final so now the tournament is a success. 2007 WC was failure because India exit earlier.

Posted by landl47 on (June 23, 2013, 3:14 GMT)

I've no problem with the Champions Trophy in this format; a short tournament in which nearly every game matters (only the India-Pakistan game had no significance) involving the top 8 nations. It's hard to think that an 18-day tournament can't be fitted in every 3 years or so.

Although the idea of a test championship seems attractive, the logistics make it almost impossible as a meaningful competition. I like irishwolfhound's suggestion a lot better, provided that the bilateral series are set up to give every team an even chance- play 3 tests, home and away, against every other country over a 4-year cycle. 5-test series (ie The Ashes) and 4-test series, only the last 3 count. That works out to 12-15 tests per country per year, about what most play now. The top 2 teams play a 3-test series for all the marbles at the end of each cycle.

That would make every test meaningful, since the lower-ranked teams could play spoiler. It's a better idea than a 4-team, 3 match knockout series.

Posted by SL_rockz on (June 23, 2013, 3:07 GMT)

LOL!! How many wash outs did we saw in this tournament !!. organizers do not have even a reserve day for finale ...huh huh haaa. Very annoying... Btw, i feel this tournament was given no value in intl calendar. Coz if you look at the calendar you will see India will rush away to tri-series in west indies and England will play a t20 against NZ on Tuesday.So i feel this ICC event was just inserted finding a small window after deciding all other tournaments. But is it the way this ICC event should be looked at ??? I am afraid this is like a mini world cup . There should be more value to this than other bilateral tournaments. IF not players as well as spectators will feel no importance of ICC CT.

Posted by asim229 on (June 23, 2013, 3:02 GMT)

Worldcup is meaningless because of the silly format. The three games quarter final, semi final, and final decide the world champion after many meaningless games in which 8 top teams easily qualify for the quarter final by beating minnows. This champions trophy have a better format and evenly contested 8 teams but still each team should play each other once to qualify for semis and there should be a reserve day for each game.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 2:53 GMT)

Having a Test Championship is an excellent idea but it should be contested between the top 9 playin nations. That way it will capture the attention of the entire Test cricket playin nations and bring validity for this tournament

Posted by Albert_cambell on (June 23, 2013, 2:45 GMT)

If ICC wants to get crowd attention and generate more revenue, they should organize more multi nations tournaments like this. Not those boring bilateral ODI series. Its only in India we see packed stadiums for an ODI match. Its completely absurd to replace champions trophy with a Pointless Test championship. Mark my words Test championship wont get much crowd attention in 2017. It will be a failure.We used to see a lot of Traingular series back in those days, but now I hardly see any of those. They are way better than those pointless Bilateral ODI Series.

Posted by ScoobyRaj on (June 23, 2013, 2:08 GMT)

It will be better if the Test Championship follows the ICC Knockout way. The top 8 test teams play the quarter final followed by 4 teams in the Semi Final & 2 teams in the Final. That way all the top 8 teams get a fair chance to compete in the tournament. Having just 4 teams will mean the other 4 don't get a chance. All teams should get fair chance because at the end of the day it is a major ICC tournament. Otherwise we can also have group stages where teams play 3 matches each. The top 4 from the group will play the knockouts. Although it may mean a longer tournament but it is worth it. So even if a team has a poor match then it can still qualify instead of getting knocked out on the basis of just 1 poor game. It will also be a better option then having just the top 4 teams play the championship which will make it too short. The teams should also play 1 warm up game so that they can prepare themselves better.

Posted by Inspector_Clouseau on (June 23, 2013, 1:52 GMT)

This tournament is short & sweet. I can take it any year instead of tons of meaningless bilaterals. Some ppl have problem accepting it bcos it is considered as mini world cup and hence the question why do we need two championships. May be we should stop considering it so. May be the name should be changed to something else. It throws up such interesting contests and as a cricket lover why wouldn't you want it?

Posted by Un_Citoyen_Indien on (June 23, 2013, 1:07 GMT)

@ EnglishCricket: Cricket will exist as long as India exists.

India will not let this sport die out.

The "Test Championship" needs to involve all test playing nations, no exceptions.

To make this possible, there needs to be no other international cricket that calendar year.

Each team plays each other twice (i.e. at home and away).

In case of a draw or a tie, net run-rate (NRR) can be used to 'determine the winner'.

NRR will also ensure that games remain interesting as all teams will be forced to play positive cricket with the aim to win matches at all times.

After the round robin stage, the best 8 move to the second (elimination) stage for Quarter-finals. The best team in the tournament must play the worst team, the second best must play the second worst and so on. This ensures that only the best 4 teams make it to the semi-final stage.

The same goes for the semi-finals. The tournament winner must automatically become the number #1 ranked team as well.

Posted by   on (June 23, 2013, 0:55 GMT)

Interest if at all elicited is because India played really well. Cricket thrives mainly because of Indian people. Had India faltered in early rounds, the viewership would have dropped. We Indians are the main reason.

Posted by PFEL on (June 23, 2013, 0:48 GMT)

Tournament a success? Half the results have been decided by rain. Regardless of financial revenue I wouldn't call it a "success"

Posted by alarky on (June 23, 2013, 0:07 GMT)

Why are people querying the ICC two 50 ODI tournaments? As we speak, FIFA is having its Confedesrations Cup and next year it is going to also have its World Cup - same 90 minutes of football per match.

Posted by CricGayan on (June 22, 2013, 23:58 GMT)

i wish if they can continue ICC trophy will be a good move for future of the cricket. otherwise it will b always short version of the cricket. and one day we will loose our favorite sport.

Posted by 512fm on (June 22, 2013, 23:39 GMT)

@Masking_Tape couldn't agree more with you, the tournament has been an utter failure. The only exciting match for me was the SL NZ game. Also lets be honest the only reason it's successful (apparently) is because India has made the final. I'm not against India or anything just stating the facts, if they didn't do so well it would not be hailed a "success"

Posted by applethief on (June 22, 2013, 23:08 GMT)

For all the talk about rain being the biggest blight on an otherwise excellent tournament, I disagree. I think Pakistan and Australia were the biggest blight. With only 8 teams in the mix, they didn't bring anything to the. They weren't competitive in the slightest. Who's to say that Bangladesh, Zimbabwe or Ireland wouldn't have brought more to the tournament than these two sides? As a Pakistan fan, I was disappointed by the side the team brought. I wonder if Australians feel the same. If not with the side selected, then at least with the sub-par performance.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 23:03 GMT)

Champions Trophy should continue.. this is one of the best competitions, if there were no rain would have been even more excited!!!

Posted by naudurivsm on (June 22, 2013, 22:40 GMT)

I think the first thought of ICC is correct. We should have 1 major Tournament for Each Format. Every two years 1 tournament, One 50 Overs World Cup. One T20 World Cup and One Test Cricket Championship. The qualifications however to each may vary, but that approach is the best. this way FTP will have time for regular mutual tours ICC must pick the timings of these tournaments to ensure that they not rain effected and/or have sufficient time factored in like the reserve days etc. This will ensure Cricket tournaments have its value and interest when it comes to major championships.

Posted by alarky on (June 22, 2013, 21:34 GMT)

It is my view that any format that should suffer due to the hectic and unreasonable schedules that plague the sport, it should be the T/20 format, which I nicknamed, "Slash-and-burn cricket"! This format does provide some excitement, but it destroys the poetic description of what cricket really is! The test match championships can go on with ease also, as follows: None of the ten top ranking teams should be left out (this only kills the sport); they could all be divided into two groups of 5 teams; each group can play in a different countrie/region at the same time; each group would play a round-robin tournament and the two top teams emerging from eacn group would play the semi-finals, which may be played in the country of one of the semi-finalists (taking the cricket season into consideration); the final would be played at a venue belonging to one of the finalists during the cricket season of that country. This is a just a cursory suggestion of the plan which could be easily refined.

Posted by Masking_Tape on (June 22, 2013, 20:56 GMT)

LOL success? 80% of the matches were rain affected! Final is ready to be washed out, and there is no reserve day, so there is a good chance there won't be even a final! And you call this a successful tournament?

Point to one special thing that happened in this tournament that will be remembered for next 5 years. Heck, even 1 year? No one's gonna remember this tournament.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 20:51 GMT)

Wait, so a four-way Test 'Championship' would have only three games? Surely a 'six-match round robin + final' format would be best for a Test tournament? If that's too long, then hold it between the best three, with a three match round robin and a final between the best two.

I've always thought that the best way to handle tournaments was to have a rotation of WorldT20->50-over World Cup->Test Championship->Champions Trophy every 4 years. This way we get a regular change in format for major tournaments, instead of a stream of T20 tournaments every two years, which makes them incredibly dull and repetitive. Having a large (12-14) World Cup allows a tournament that gives the lower nations a chance to make themselves known (and so push for Test status), and a 8-team Champions trophy gives us a tournament that requires the best teams to beat other very good teams to qualify for quarter/semifinals instead of relying on beating the minnows like in the 2011 World Cup. Everybody wins.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 20:03 GMT)

Good move. CT is an very competitive tournament. No room to have off days. The most consistent team will win. Keep the tournament going.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 19:50 GMT)

The most laughable part about the much publicized 'Test Championship' is the proposed schedule. How can we have a Championship tournament with only three matches?

Posted by GoldenAsif on (June 22, 2013, 19:43 GMT)

So 'Tournament has been a success!!'

CT is superfluous. There is no point having TWO tournaments deciding the Champions of the same format. It just doesn't make sense. It seems the ICC is only interested revenue, not the matches. They should give a teeny weeny care about the game not just the money.

This tournament has not lived up to expectations. Too many one-sided games. too many games interrupted by rain. Both semi-finals were boring one-sided affairs. The only good thing is the two best teams are playing the final. Hope the game on Sunday is actually a contest

Posted by applethief on (June 22, 2013, 19:18 GMT)

Test cricket artists from a lack of context. The solution is not a knock out competition between the top four teams, that's just absurd. Instead, the ICC should concentrate on standardising tours, with a minimum of 3 tests per series, and ensuring all teams play a similar number of tests per year. Longer series like the Ashes are fine, but make it so only the final 3 tests count for the rankings. This also helps eliminate dead rubbers in an already-won series. That way, we'd finally have some real validity to the rankings, instead of the joke of a system we have now. Instant meaningful context to test cricket. You could read the reasons at the end of a four year cycle, and make the top two teams play a series as a home stores for the team ranked #1 for a "final". That's how all the "unofficial" world championships have always worked anyway, beating the number one side in their backyard the to steal their mantle.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 19:10 GMT)

ICC must ponder over the possibility that the stadiums are full, perhaps because this edition of the Champions Trophy was billed as the last ever. It is appalling to see that at the first hint of retaining the success of the ODI tournament, we find there are fifty reasons why the Test championships won't work..

Posted by waza1234 on (June 22, 2013, 18:58 GMT)

I hope it does continue. It's great to have a 50 over tournament with 8 evenly matched teams which is completed in only a few weeks.

Posted by EnglishCricket on (June 22, 2013, 18:56 GMT)

Everyone should read Jarrod Kimber article "Best 8? only the top 3 matter" because it tells you all you want to know and I'm glad someone like him is aware of this, he's a true Cricket fan. This tournament is successful for the reason because India made it to the final but really most of the matches have been one-sided and weather wasn't great. Such a great sport that is sadly unpopular. I just hope Cricket doesn't die out in the future.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 18:44 GMT)

I still think it is an absolute disgrace that there is no reserve day for at least the final. I mean in England you HAVE to have a reserve day there is always a high possibility of rain in England so you need a reserve day

Posted by whoster on (June 22, 2013, 18:38 GMT)

The Champions Trophy has been well-received because the format is short and simple. The 50-Over World Cup is the one they should get rid of - hordes of meaningless games over a ridiculous amount of time. Obviously the weather hasn't been great, but there's no way that can be planned for in England - no matter what time of year. There are basically 8 competitive nations in ODI's, and every one of them was in with a chance. That's why virtually every game was important. Having said all that, it's crazy that there isn't a reserve day for the semi's and final. If tomorrow is a washout (and the forecast isn't especially heartening), it'll be an almighty and inexcusable cock-up. It's happened before, and I simply can't see any excuse for not having any reserve days. Let's see what happens tomorrow first before we rave about this tournament's great triumph!

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (June 22, 2013, 18:35 GMT)

Test Championship is a stupid idea. In a Eng-WI Test Championship match, how many non WI/ENG people will want to see (on TV and stadium)? Leave Test matches to bilateral series. Furthermore, ICC must stop coming up with ridiculous ideas. Geoff Boycott recently said that he is surprised that ex-cricketers have come up with the 4-outside circle rule in ODIs, which he thinks will force bowlers to become batsmen.

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (June 22, 2013, 18:26 GMT)

I challenge all cricket lovers, to tell me about ONE T20 international match from 2012-2013 that they remember the details? I agree with @avmd, that T20 should be left to domestic tournaments. International cricket is serious cricket where you can't just give a team 20 overs to prove their superiority. International cricket is about building a solid platform, seeing off the initial burst of fast and hostile bowling, bowlers setting a batsman up over a few overs, etc. International T20 matches are just fill-ups before a Test series or ODI series. T20 internationals are considered as player tune-up matches, nothing more. They are unnecessary clogging the schedule.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 18:16 GMT)

The Main Reason for the success of this edition is because of the Multiculturism of UK, Matches involving asian sides plus home team England will invariabily be sold out.This doesnt even happen if its held in INDIA as non India matches wont be sell outs. Maybe if the next edition is palyed, Bangladesh too should be given an opportunity at least in the form a qualifying round like the one in 2006.Just Imagine an ICC tournament with 4 semiifnalists from Asia held in Multicultural UK- Should be a Super Success with high TRP ratings.....The only concern should be Weather But despite uncertain weather England has hosted 4 World Cups,2 Champions Trophies and a World T20....

Posted by Kapil_Choudhary on (June 22, 2013, 18:16 GMT)

The fact of the matter is there are just too many problems in conducting a true test championship. Nobody is going to be satisfied with a 4-team tournament, decided by ICC rankings which are rubbish as long as they don't include a home-away factor. However, I can't see how a proper championship can be conducted EVEN if there is sufficient intent, which there doesn't seem to be. A proper championship requires, besides AT LEAST the top 8 teams participating, a home-away format because (a) the home advantage is absolutely HUGE is test cricket, and (b) a 5-day match held in a neutral country is likely to see empty grounds. However, we can't really have a home-away format because England's cricket playing season of May-September is pretty much exactly the opposite of the rest of the teams (except WI) who play from Oct/Nov to Mar/Apr. And no one wants to see matches being rained-out. May be if England start putting roofs and ICC shows some true intent...but both are highly unlikely.

Posted by s382412 on (June 22, 2013, 18:15 GMT)

Good to have championship trophy as the topmost cricketing teams participate. I feel the Bilateral one day series should be minimize. Maximum 3 should be allowed.

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (June 22, 2013, 18:11 GMT)

Right now the WC is played in 3 stages: group, super-six, knock-out. ICC needs to get rid of the group stage since real cricket only begins at super-six stage. The group stage only helps to eliminate the weaker teams. Nobody is interested in seeing the stronger teams play a long-drawn league stage, when the outcome is already known (that the weaker team will be eliminated). Ricky Ponting has already said the same thing. The weaker teams should play a WC-qualifier and the winners/runnersup should directly join the top 8 teams in the so called super-six. This way, the WC will have only 2 stages: Super-six and Knock-outs. If ICC is mulling over scrapping one out of CT and WC, I say scrap the WC. It is a meaningless-2-month-long-drawn-cricket where a defeat or two, does not do any serious harm to a team's qualifying chances.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 18:02 GMT)

The tournament is definitely a success. There were a large number of spectators in the ground and was watched my masses around the globe. There was excitement in the media too. The Pakistanis might not really agree, after their early exit from the tournament, but this is the truth.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 18:00 GMT)

This seems to be a very good move. I already have mentioned it many times that please keep playing ODIs in multinational tournaments including triangular, quadrangular and this champions trophy apart from the mega world cup every four years. Now whenever two teams play bilateral series, they should only play tests and ODIs (sometimes) and sometimes hosting nation should arrange triangular or quadrangular tournament alongside the test series. And at times a bilateral series should ONLY comprise of test matches (more often 3,4 or 5 and less often 2-test match series). Restrict T20 to domestic level, private franchise leagues and World T20 every two years (or sometimes three years to avoid two ICC events in a single calender year). Invite players from Kenya, Ireland, Zimbabwe, Bangladesh, Hong Kong or any other rising cricket country in leagues like IPL, BPL and BBL (put some conditions on franchises to offer players from these nations bcz usually they might not be made lucrative offers.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

The Champions Trophy should be played 1-year before the ICC World Cup and in the Countries hosting the WC. Model it on the Confederations Cup in Football/Soccer. My opinion.

Posted by Pyketts on (June 22, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

@Kannadiga-sucks not sure why I've risen to your comment but I'd love to see what you base it on as I've been to a significant number of test matches in the UK and there is a broad base of fans. Can only assume you're trying to make some arrogant and irrelevent point as to how only the sub-continent matters.

India v's Pakistan in the previous Champions Trophy was one of the best atmospheres I've ever been in but I doubt you'd get this for a test match, particulary given the apparent disinterest in test cricket in the sub-continent.

Onto the actual subject of the article, the tournament should stay and reduce the length of ODI series between two teams (and you wouldn't need to reduce them by that much).

Posted by coldcoffee123 on (June 22, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

CT's success has to do with its format, with only the top 8 teams playing with no long-drawn league stages. It reminds me of the 1992 World Cup which in my memory remains one of the most interesting World Cup editions. This latest ICC twist puts it beyond doubt that ICC is a bunch of jokers with severe tunnel vision. They have no idea how to chart the coarse of cricket for the next 15-30 years. ODI, Test and T20, all have their lovers and haters and can easily co-exist. ICC have made the right decision in letting CT continue, but they have interpreted the "crowd support all over the world" incorrectly. The crowd support has nothing to do with "interest in ODI", rather it is due to the CT format. In its present format, CT is better than the ODI WC. The crowds are not fed up by ODI, rather they are fed up by the "meaningless" ODI league matches, like those in World Cups. How hard is that to understand? No wonder the best ICC can come up with these days is 4 fielders outside circle!!

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

Completely agree, Nuxxy. In Rugby and Fifa world cups nobody complains about participation of teams like namibia and North Korea then y do cricket fans complain. even the confederations cup this year has included Tahiti and no matter how poor their performances were they were still praised for qualifying for a world tournament like this. they dont say restrict no of teams in Fifa competitions or allow there to be a playoff between Oceania champions and south america/ europe runners up. No,course not.they qualified fair and square. and teams in Cricket world cup hav actually performed better Ire defeated eng and Ned also gave dem a fight. not to mention canada bowled out pak for 180 odd runs. These teams deserve a chance to play in CWC. Only then will it be a WORLD CUP.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 17:42 GMT)

I believe that the Champions trophy should be allowed to continue, albeit in a carefully redrafted schedule.

I propose the following schedule:- 1. 50 over World Cup to be held once every four year involving 12 top teams and in years 2011/15/19/23 etc 2.50 over Champions trophy involving top 8 teams in the current format held once every two years in years 2016/2018/1020/2022 etc 3. T20 world cup involving top 12 teams in a revised format to be held once every two tears in years 2015/2017/2019/2021 etc 4.5 day Test cricket WC to be held once every 4 years involving the top 8 teams in the years 2017/2021/2025 etc as per the following proposed format - one single group of 8 teams. In the first round pre fixed pairing should see IND vs PAK, ENG vs AUS, WI vs SA, NZ vs SL. Second and third round should be based on SWISS LEAGUE as practised in Bridge and taking into account ICC Test rankings. After three rounds the top four teams qualify for IPL type playoff.

Posted by avmd on (June 22, 2013, 17:23 GMT)

Let keep things simple. 20/20 should be restricted to the domestic compition only and let the nations compete for ODI and Tests, the old fashion way. A lot of pristige, pressure and pride was involved in each game of the CT, nothing such was ever noticed even in the world cup of 20/20. Formate was good, each game of this CT was important. Looks like England is about to win their first ODI trophy.

Posted by thekaz on (June 22, 2013, 16:59 GMT)

When judging the tournament as either a success or not a success, rain shouldn't be a factor. Weather is unfortunate, but in the UK likely a factor. In no way should this be a slight on England, we are the most multicultural of countries in the cricketing world, and the crowd numbers show that. Where else in the world would you get such support for each team. The success of the tournament should be judged on factors that are in the control of the organizers. Crowd size, Ticket prices, etc.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:54 GMT)

Now that news is music for my ears; been waiting to hear it. Hope it is true. Of course the ICC should go to the next logical step and wipe out meaningless ODI series while making the T20WC a once-in-4-yrs event. The Test championship is unfortunately dodgy business. How do you ensure that teams (specially those from the subcontinent) will not adopt a safety first by playing for draws? More importantly how many teams are truly balanced enough to bowl out the opposition twice while scoring runs at a brisk rate of 3 or 4? Last, but definitely not the least, how do you attract and retain audiences over 5 days when they have already tasted blood via T20s and successful ODI tournaments like the World Cup and the Champions Trophy? If the answer to all these questions is 'no', then its very difficult to have a successful Test Championship. A financially successful championship for Tests is almost an oxymoron, regardless of how interested fans in England, SA or Australia will be.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:42 GMT)

Excuse me! Did someone say this tournament has been a success? Are you out of your mind? Played at the start of the summer to make sure the Ashes don't get disturbed. Not a single match at the house of cricket shows how important this tournament really is. Almost every match effected by rain depriving the public and the teams of a fair contest and you call it a success?

Posted by venkatesh018 on (June 22, 2013, 16:41 GMT)

The Champions Trophy was never meant to be dropped by the ICC or the Broadcasters. So nobody should be surprised if there is another edition. Regarding this event in England, any ICC tournament in which India is in action till the final will inevitably be a huge Success ! That is the reality world cricket has been reduced to. Whether it is right or wrong is an entirely different debate.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:41 GMT)

I am proud that India are in the final and frankly we have been comfortably better than any other team, but this article is ridiculous. ON What grounds as the "Champions Trophy never been so popular"? In reality the tournament has been marred by rain, which cost the West Indies and New Zealand and poor umpiring which is the only reason England made the Semi Finals, this tournament does not even have a reserve day for the final, so we could well have the best ODI team in the world having to share the trophy with the weather gods tomorrow, frankly this tournament is an embarrassment to the game and the sooner it is cancelled the better for all concerned.

Posted by Viv-Viru on (June 22, 2013, 16:37 GMT)

Agree that despite rain issues in many matches fans kept waiting for whatever they could watch - almost like at Wimbledon. If cricket is to be played for people to watch then CT is a clear winner. Decisions should not always be made in the zeal to "preserve/promote" test cricket. Test cricket has its own allure and it does not need a Test Championship. It remains a classic and the less done to preserve/promote it the better it is.

Posted by John_Mil on (June 22, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

Please correct your self Mr. Pakistanvictorious .CT success does not measure based on India in the final or based on one team revenue.Hope you could understand what is CT? It has been decided based on the interest of the people and fans of crickt.All understood unfortunately the weather played a major role in England this time. May be when they suggest the place for CT next time (incase if it happens) better the Rain should not interrupt at any cost .Hope you could understand India is the No 1 Team currently because of their winning records at the recent time.No one can deny that Mr. Pakistanvictorious

Posted by barshon on (June 22, 2013, 16:27 GMT)

A really good news for the true cricket lovers.

Posted by CricFan78 on (June 22, 2013, 16:26 GMT)

ICC should have one competition every year

1. World Cup 2. T20 World Cup 3. Champions Trophy 4. Test Championship

Posted by Nuxxy on (June 22, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

It's simple - make the Champions Trophy an elite knockout tournament for the world's top teams, and expand the World Cup to 16 teams, league + Top 8 knockout. It's not a World Cup with 10 teams.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

This is ridiculous.. Though I like Champions Trophy but it cannot come at the cost of scrapping the World Test Championship which is already part of the FTP. By scrapping the Test Championship ICC will ensure that the very intellectual CLT20 continues to have a window in the FTP every year while the World Test Championship fails to get it, even once in 4 years

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

ICC CT 13 has been the best planned and organized competition in a long time. Kudos to all involved. Lets keep it going.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

why champion's trophy was successful becoz there were no bangladesh, kenya, zimbabwe, ireland.... & the format was real short one...just 15 games.. frankly speaking we need to cut short world cup matches too.... its ok to have more nations but we need to reduce the total no. of matches... just make a system of 20-25 games...that will b enough...

Posted by Pakistanvictorious on (June 22, 2013, 16:15 GMT)

I wonder how can you deem CT as a success because India is in Final? a poorly managed tournament where two potential finalists NZ and WI were ruled out by rain, where most matches were player in tailor made conditions and where winning fro one team was almost impossible in those tailor made conditions? Please dont declare it success only on revenue generation.

Posted by YS_USA on (June 22, 2013, 16:14 GMT)

Champions Trophy, World Cup and World T20 matches are more interesting than just bilateral series between any two nations. Even IPL is more interesting to watch. Other than India and Pakistan, I watch SA and UK matches as SA and UK have some stars that are interesting to follow, like Amla, Anderson, etc. Other teams, WI, NZ and even Australia are just boing as they have no stars any more.

Posted by Seaking_alpha on (June 22, 2013, 16:11 GMT)

Suggestion: Make the Champions Trophy the World Cup and play a Test championship in the 6 week vacant spot of the World Cup

Posted by Srini_Chennai on (June 22, 2013, 16:08 GMT)

I'd want to see the Test championship without England in England. Lets see the crowd response. Even in matches involving sub-continent teams, it is the sub-continental people living in England fills the stadium, so could you stop your notion of England people appreciate good cricket which you try to imply in your article here?

Posted by rohit_bhagchandani on (June 22, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

If ICC were thinking of discontinuing Champions trophy its would've been OK but If they are to Replace it with 4-team Test championship then it is an utterly Worst Idea & So my Advice to ICC would be keep Continuing Champions trophy & Increase no. of teams for WorldT20 or World Cup or Both. Test Championship can be accommodate anywhere and is of less importance in most of cricket Audience.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 16:03 GMT)

I feel that Champions Trophy should be played every four years. Just like in soccer, World Cup and then two years later Euro Cup. That would be quite apt. Regarding Test Championship, South Africa is the best venue for such thing. And atleast 6 teams must play in the championship, league based with top two teams qualifying for the finals.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (June 22, 2013, 16:01 GMT)

I wondered whether this would be on the table for review, because in so many quarters it has been praised as a competition Indeed in many ways it is more compelling than the longer World Cup, which can be a morass of totally insignificant games in the first half. Some people swear that having the minnows play makes the competition but I would bet that most punters would say that it is a bore. CT does not fall into that category but is a quick, snappy, totally relevant and exciting completion which lasts less than half the time of world cup. Even though the ICC had planned to make the Test championship a replacement,without too much need for imagination I would argue that both could take place and should without overcrowding the calendar. Holding both would be aproper reflection of international cricket and playing only 1 T20 WC in 4 years instead of 2 would be one route to go, as well as shortening the WC. Making both the CT and Test Championship possible is a must for ICC

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 15:58 GMT)

I suppose the test championship if introduced would bring more excitement to the fans. But all 9 teams should compete in the following format : 3 groups of 3 teams 1 home and 2 3 compete to decide the winner. To start shud be India Srilanka Bangladesh; Pakistan Australia Newzealand;Wi England and SA. The successive tournaments should have 1,5,7;2,6,9 and 3,4 and 8 ranked in groups!! The strategy of each team eyeing for the next world T-Championship would drive for even further strategy!! D/L for Tests should come into play in case of draw! That would be very exciting!!

Posted by Narbavi on (June 22, 2013, 15:56 GMT)

Scrapping the champions trophy would be a huge mistake, Why have a t20 world cup every two years once? Replace it with the champions trophy, we can then have a champions trophy, a 50 over world cup, a t20 world cup, and a test championship, all these tournaments once in every four years, for example, 2014 we have the t20 world cup, 2015 the 50 over wc, in 2016 instead of having the t20 wc again, we can rather have a champions trophy and then the world test championship in 2017, this cycle should be repeated!!

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 15:50 GMT)

A Test Championship is a distant future and may never materialize and even if it did, it wont be as popular. So in my view the Champions Trophy should continue in its present form probably have a qualifier for the last two spots between teams ranked 7-10. It should be held every 4 years alternately with the World Cup.

Posted by Chetan007 on (June 22, 2013, 15:49 GMT)

Test championship should be made a knockout tournament if needed increase the number of days from 5 to 6 in that championship only. If it's a knockout tournament than ICC can include atleast 8 nations for this lovely event.

Posted by   on (June 22, 2013, 15:44 GMT)

I don't see why the Champions Trophy could stay as it is, and also have a Test version between the top 4 nations during a different part of the season, why one or the other?

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