Champions Trophy 2013 June 24, 2013

The end of an ODI era

The Champions Trophy may be remembered with fondness and a touch of sadness. But will it be missed?
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It's strange how we begin to love something we were once uninterested in, just as we're about to let it go. Like the book we received as a birthday present - about a subject we would never read about - that will be thrown out during spring cleaning. Or the pair of jeans, worn once, that only takes up wardrobe space. Or even the Champions Trophy.

Cricket's most neglected and often despised tournament has taken its final bow even though most people now want it to stay. Fans. Media. Even players. Four years ago in South Africa, these same people were seeing off the tournament's penultimate edition with great relief, knowing there was only one more to come.

The most common criticism then was that it was a meaningless title - not quite a World Cup, not quite a knockout, with no place among cricket's elite competitions. What started as a tournament to help grow the game in so-called smaller countries never managed to maintain an identity. In its childhood in Dhaka and Nairobi it was an elimination event. Then it became a more complicated beast, as teenagers tend to be, and involved a series of qualifying matches that made it longer and more tedious.

Over the last two competitions, the organisers found a recipe that works. Both the 2009 and 2013 events had two groups of four teams each, followed by a semi-final and a final. In 2009 there were some complaints, but this year the Champions Trophy is being praised for the same format. It has been called slick and on-point. Perhaps the glut of 20-over competitions that have sprung up in the interim has something to do with the change in attitude but it's not the only cause.

The World Cup can become a drag because there are too many matches and too many teams. The organisers have yet to find a way to balance extending the format to teams that deserve and need exposure and limiting the scope of a tournament to give it relevance.

There is talk of the 50-over tournament getting smaller and the T20 version expanding. That would be one way of preventing the continuation of an old boys' club but until that happens, there is a reason to play the Champions Trophy (and there has been talk of the ICC reconsidering the future of the event). The Champions Trophy is a good stopgap between an event that is big enough to justify its name as a World Cup and one that remains small enough to sustain competition throughout.

That is not to say every match of this tournament has been thrilling. The semi-finals were particularly disappointing for their one-sidedness but the group stage included one tie and four other matches that ended in close margins. Perhaps as a result, interest in this Champions Trophy has been high. Eleven of the 15 matches have been sell-outs but more notably, more than three quarters of the people who went to watch games - 78% - had not attended a live cricket contest in three years.

As with any global event, the public's reaction is somewhat dependent on the participation of the home team. A multicultural society like the United Kingdom is a little different because the progress of the subcontinental sides has a large bearing on actual bums-on-seats support. Pakistan failed to live up to expectations, even though they had a touring "Stani-army" following them, but the progress of England and India to the final had a positive effect on the event as a whole. The one obviously poorly attended game was between Sri Lanka and New Zealand in Cardiff, though the teams made up for that with a humdinger of a match.

Despite changeable weather, the tournament was not completely washed out by any measure

Despite changeable weather, the tournament was not completely washed out by any measure. There was one no-result, which was also the case in 2009, and two rain-reduced affairs. While drizzle always gives people a reason to complain about a venue, conditions have been conducive for interesting cricket. Drier pitches at the start of the tournament assisted spinners far more than was expected, and tricky batting conditions and the rule change of two new balls ensured that no team apart from India was able to run away with a total. Lower-scoring games are usually more gripping and this tournament proved that yet again.

And then there were the off-field matters that had just the right amount of spice to keep the event in the headlines. England's ability to reverse-swing the ball and the alleged ball-tampering claims roused the technically minded, while Australia's after-dark activities had the perfect tinge of scandal for the rest. It also didn't hurt that they served as appetisers for the Ashes.

By now cricket's attention has already turned to that series. The Champions Trophy will be hauled out when India hark back to their list of achievements or when someone wants to complain about the winding nature of a World Cup in two years' time.

The way it ended - with a final that was almost washed out - will disguise that it was actually a fine event. Few would argue that India and England were the best two teams on show. The former showed off a successful transition from big names like Sachin Tendulkar and Virender Sehwag to younger talents like Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Shikhar Dhawan. England's aggressive bowling unit perfectly complemented their watchful batting approach. Over a full 100 overs, theirs would have been a balanced contest and provided a stern test of the skills both had displayed in the tournament. It could also have provided an accurate measure of who the best one-day side in world cricket is at the moment.

An era of one-day cricket is over. Chances are the Champions Trophy will be remembered with fondness and a touch of sadness, the sort we have when we think about a long-ago teddy bear that we decided was best left out of sight.

Firdose Moonda is ESPNcricinfo's South Africa correspondent

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  • AltafPatel on June 26, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    When ICC seem to be in saving part of the Test cricket, amazed some authors promote to believe in End of ODI era!!!

  • AltafPatel on June 26, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    @CricketMaan Only single trophy never measures merit of a team. To be champion in cricket world, you have to prove with consistent success. Losing 4-0 to Aus & Eng in tests and, 3-0, 7-1 ODIs dosnt suite to World Champion and though its bitter, you have to accept the facts rather than living fantasy world based on a single trophy...

  • SaracensBob on June 25, 2013, 23:39 GMT

    This has been, against my expectations, an interesting and exciting tournament (and I'm not saying that simply because my team Eng. reached the final!). The ICC should look at this as a template for future World Cups. Have 2 groups of 5 playing a round- robin with the groups made up of the top 8 ODI sides, seeded, plus a 'minnow' in each group who have won their place through a qualifying tournament. The 'minnows' will get to play some meaningful and competitive cricket with a tangible goal - qualifying to play against the major teams. Cricket lovers will get a short, sharp 'punchy' contest to enjoy rather than a long tedious drawn-out affair with too few proper matches.

  • CricketMaan on June 25, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @AltafPatel - You havent missed an oppurtunity to be a perfect cynic..havent you? What you forgot is in some of those loses, India were wise to try out some young guns for exposure which other teams lacked and thus suffered in CT. In that period you mentioned, i too can list achievements. What is important is despite those setbacks and loss, India stood in a world event and dominated it like none. Aus, Eng, Pak all won agaist India, even Bangla, but none of those could make an impression. This despite some tired legs after a prolonged IPL 6. Give credit when due, they deserve as much praise as criticsm when losing.

  • AltafPatel on June 25, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    Still this winning team misses consistency. in not more than one and half year ago, they lost to Eng 3-0, then in Aus 7-1, thrown out of Asian Cup (Bangladesh got to the final), hardly won ODI series to Eng by 3-2, lost to Pak 2-1. They played well against that time poor and weak WI and NZ. They struggle with the same problem other strong suffers - SA and Eng. It will be interesting how they improve and stabilize their performance in next one or couple of years with recently found pool of very good potential and talent.

  • on June 25, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    rain rain pointless having odi tournament in england this time of year you never get a definitive outcome

  • jackiethepen on June 25, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    I think people have got to realise 4 years is too long to wait in cricket for a meaningful Trophy. Football understands this. The World Cup is balanced by the European Cup (other continents have their own trophies). Fans still love ODIs because it is meaningful cricket played over a day. If the media got behind the game it would become even more popular. Too many cynics in the media stir up the trolls only too anxious to criticise anything. The real fans pay their money and turn up. T20 will always be too short a game for the serious cricket fan, entertaining though it can be, although I find the IPL tries too hard. T20 might suit adrenaline junkies but cricket is a sport not a circus. Patience is a great feature of cricket and in that patience all sorts of battles are going on. And great skill and great artistry come to the fore. The ODIs have enough time for platforms to develop, for innings to take off, to be won and lost in the last few overs.

  • CricketChat on June 25, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    This would be a good time to say good bye to Champions Trophy. WC is the title all teams aim to win. CT can never come close to WC. As is, the cricket calendar is already flooded with too many meaningless series. Cutting CT makes it less crowded and will not be missed by true cricket fans at all.

  • ARad on June 24, 2013, 23:42 GMT

    Any championship that allows a team to showcase their players in white jacket deserves to be banished. ;-)

  • on June 24, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    How about the 20 Over World Cup have 16 teams in 4 groups of 4 and the winners and the runners up qualify for the 50 Over World Cup in the style of this Champions Trophy. This way it has the ability to reward the smaller nations as they get to play to get into the World Cup.

  • AltafPatel on June 26, 2013, 5:42 GMT

    When ICC seem to be in saving part of the Test cricket, amazed some authors promote to believe in End of ODI era!!!

  • AltafPatel on June 26, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    @CricketMaan Only single trophy never measures merit of a team. To be champion in cricket world, you have to prove with consistent success. Losing 4-0 to Aus & Eng in tests and, 3-0, 7-1 ODIs dosnt suite to World Champion and though its bitter, you have to accept the facts rather than living fantasy world based on a single trophy...

  • SaracensBob on June 25, 2013, 23:39 GMT

    This has been, against my expectations, an interesting and exciting tournament (and I'm not saying that simply because my team Eng. reached the final!). The ICC should look at this as a template for future World Cups. Have 2 groups of 5 playing a round- robin with the groups made up of the top 8 ODI sides, seeded, plus a 'minnow' in each group who have won their place through a qualifying tournament. The 'minnows' will get to play some meaningful and competitive cricket with a tangible goal - qualifying to play against the major teams. Cricket lovers will get a short, sharp 'punchy' contest to enjoy rather than a long tedious drawn-out affair with too few proper matches.

  • CricketMaan on June 25, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    @AltafPatel - You havent missed an oppurtunity to be a perfect cynic..havent you? What you forgot is in some of those loses, India were wise to try out some young guns for exposure which other teams lacked and thus suffered in CT. In that period you mentioned, i too can list achievements. What is important is despite those setbacks and loss, India stood in a world event and dominated it like none. Aus, Eng, Pak all won agaist India, even Bangla, but none of those could make an impression. This despite some tired legs after a prolonged IPL 6. Give credit when due, they deserve as much praise as criticsm when losing.

  • AltafPatel on June 25, 2013, 11:14 GMT

    Still this winning team misses consistency. in not more than one and half year ago, they lost to Eng 3-0, then in Aus 7-1, thrown out of Asian Cup (Bangladesh got to the final), hardly won ODI series to Eng by 3-2, lost to Pak 2-1. They played well against that time poor and weak WI and NZ. They struggle with the same problem other strong suffers - SA and Eng. It will be interesting how they improve and stabilize their performance in next one or couple of years with recently found pool of very good potential and talent.

  • on June 25, 2013, 10:04 GMT

    rain rain pointless having odi tournament in england this time of year you never get a definitive outcome

  • jackiethepen on June 25, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    I think people have got to realise 4 years is too long to wait in cricket for a meaningful Trophy. Football understands this. The World Cup is balanced by the European Cup (other continents have their own trophies). Fans still love ODIs because it is meaningful cricket played over a day. If the media got behind the game it would become even more popular. Too many cynics in the media stir up the trolls only too anxious to criticise anything. The real fans pay their money and turn up. T20 will always be too short a game for the serious cricket fan, entertaining though it can be, although I find the IPL tries too hard. T20 might suit adrenaline junkies but cricket is a sport not a circus. Patience is a great feature of cricket and in that patience all sorts of battles are going on. And great skill and great artistry come to the fore. The ODIs have enough time for platforms to develop, for innings to take off, to be won and lost in the last few overs.

  • CricketChat on June 25, 2013, 3:07 GMT

    This would be a good time to say good bye to Champions Trophy. WC is the title all teams aim to win. CT can never come close to WC. As is, the cricket calendar is already flooded with too many meaningless series. Cutting CT makes it less crowded and will not be missed by true cricket fans at all.

  • ARad on June 24, 2013, 23:42 GMT

    Any championship that allows a team to showcase their players in white jacket deserves to be banished. ;-)

  • on June 24, 2013, 23:12 GMT

    How about the 20 Over World Cup have 16 teams in 4 groups of 4 and the winners and the runners up qualify for the 50 Over World Cup in the style of this Champions Trophy. This way it has the ability to reward the smaller nations as they get to play to get into the World Cup.

  • on June 24, 2013, 21:09 GMT

    Lets end odi and just play test and t20.If icc wants to keep odi then they should change the format of odi world cup with that of champions trophy and end champions trophy.in test world cup there should be top 4 teams with each team playing against each other and the top 2 teams qualify for final(no semi final).in odi world cup top 8 teams and 2 groups with teams in each group and in t20 world cup there should be 16 teams and 2 groups and the top 2 teams from each group will qualify for semi finals(no super 8s) Rules should also be changed.No powerplays, no fielding restrictions, every team shouldl be allowed to choose 5 different balls with different conditions(like new ball and used ball).Stadiums should have roof so that rain and weather doesnt effect the game.

  • on June 24, 2013, 20:40 GMT

    I think we need more "real" tournaments like the Champions Trophy, and fewer meaningless bilateral ODI and T20 series (which no one remembers or cares about). A really good tournament. While the English weather did spoil some of the games (which is a pity), it actually improved others (eg the WI v SA game). The advantage of holding the tournament in England is that there are fans of every nation there, so the atmosphere in the grounds was great. The noise for the India v Pakistan game was fantastic (which might not happen for, say, an England v Australia game in India - and I'm not trying to have a dig at India).

  • Zsam on June 24, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    @Soumya81, I concur with your opinion and have often stated the same. The WC should be a round robin event without any groups; like 1992 with perhaps the last 3 slots for the tournament filled up by a pre tournament qualifying round. The league phase wherein all play all makes for the good teams to peak and doesn't allow early exits for late bloomers.The semi final or IPl like top two could be given further incentives. But the top 4 would not get decided until very last and that would continue the interest unlike the 2 group format.

  • on June 24, 2013, 18:54 GMT

    Its sqd CT is going because its produced many young talents

  • on June 24, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    if the match was plyed 50-50 england would have been bowl out in 35 overs they have struggle to plAy 8 over of spin how they could have played 20

  • on June 24, 2013, 18:44 GMT

    Who wants the T20/ ICC World Cup / ICC Champions Tropy. Also please add one more World Test Champion, since this is real cricket for all the teams, who qualify in test cricket & the top ten team qualify for the ICC TEST CHAMPIONS TROPY.

    For ICC World cup, let them select for top four teams & for remaining teams can play qualify matches to play against on the top 4 teams for Quarter finals ..!

  • Anneeq on June 24, 2013, 17:58 GMT

    Im really surprised about the talk of reversing the decision to keep the CT. Im not buying the pundit's and the general public's opinion that this is the best format and that this has been a great tournament. The premier tournament should ONLY be the world cup.

    For me the structure of the world cup should change, it should be a knockout tournament, much like this CT instead of having super 6s or 8s. And most of the full member teams should have to qualify.

    What i propose is that we have a 12 team world cup, where the first 4 teams in the ODI rankings automatically qualify and the 6 remaining full member teams have to play against an additional 10 teams with a mixture of Associates and affiliates who pre-qualify. Have the 16 teams seperated into groups of 4 each and they play a series of qualification matches home and away where the top 2 from each group qualify for the w/c. Itl give the lower teams exposure to top quality opposition and therefore get them TV revenue....

  • on June 24, 2013, 17:26 GMT

    Keep the Champions Trophy. What we need a Test Championship Tournament. With the World Cup already established, and with the emergence of the Twenty/20 Championship it will be quite monumental to see if one team can win all the championships in one year. Something like the Triple Crown but grander.

    Award the the team that wins all championships in one year an incentive of $20 million bonus if they do.

  • on June 24, 2013, 17:15 GMT

    The initial concept of a knockout tournament with the top 8 or 9 sides was a good one, particularly the idea that the tournament should played in places where the game was slowly reaching out. Bangladesh in 1998, Kenya in 2000....... I am very much for the tournament to continue. Could be better if they could bring back the initial concept of outreach as well, perhaps they should play the next one in Ireland?

  • on June 24, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    This was a very, very good tournament. The only bad thing of note was the fact that the Final was a rain-affected match. There were competitive matches and the crowds were really good. We saw some great displays of batting from the likes of Dhawan, Sanga and Trott and bowlers like Anderson, McClenaghan and Jadeja did wonderfully well, too. We witnessed low-scoring games (Something that has become extinct nowadays due to flat pitches being prepared everywhere) and the batsmen did not dominate at all throughout the tournament. Overall, it was awesome. I would definitely like to see the Champions Trophy again.

  • on June 24, 2013, 16:55 GMT

    my take on it, it is very simple, all the time India reached till Final, Semi-Final of any tournament, that particular tournament was a big hit. Example : Champion's Trophy 2013, World Cup 2011, First T-20 World Cup.

    Any tour of India Australia, India England and so on was also a hit. Suggestion to ICC is To earn more money ($$$), make sure India reaches Final - Semi-finals easily.

  • HughL on June 24, 2013, 15:55 GMT

    The Champions Trophy should be the World Cup. Its format is perfect just as the early World Cups were. The current WC is a dreadful bore drawn out for so long that hardly anyone can be bothered by the time the final arrives. Keep it to 8 teams ideally and decide those eight by a preliminary event so that the likes of Ireland and Bangladesh get a shot at the top table. For instance top six in the rankings go though but the rest play off

    One match a day is just ridiculous and clearly designed for maximum air time and TV advertising but turns off every casual fan around the globe

  • PeterJerome on June 24, 2013, 15:23 GMT

    The officials in the ICC seem to be very short sighted. Just 1 success to all previous failures seems to be justification enough for them to reverse their decisions. Childish stuff this.

  • on June 24, 2013, 13:56 GMT

    Oh, "Champions"! Time for your epitaph. Though goeth from dust to dust! Thy beauty was in the eyes of the beholder. No more will you be available for a passionate embrace. Nor, to be kicked around. Now is the time for "Ashes" to "Ashes", not for "dust" to "dust"!. Though Ashes are just a microcosm of the vast dust in this universe; its ardent lovers see the the whole universe in it. So, shall the new paramour be! Come hither, the new one, to be loved or kicked around!

  • NP_NY on June 24, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    Bilateral one day tournaments are boring. Why not have a schedule like tennis? They have Wimbledon (grass), US open (hard court?), French (clay). So have 3-4 tournaments in the champions trophy format in a year, in completely contrasting conditions. Bilaterals should be limited to test matches only.

  • m23khan on June 24, 2013, 12:27 GMT

    Can I make some suggestions for next Worldcup(20/50 overs) and Champions Trophy?

    - Please, don't play only 1 match per day -- this ends up making tournaments too long and boring.

  • F.Ephraime on June 24, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    Poor tournament to be fair,new zealand and australia had a match washed off which meant they share a point which kicked the black caps out of the tournament so was west indies....dodgy umpiring decisions,poor whether,england ball tampering saga and warner/root saga also

  • Soumya81 on June 24, 2013, 11:44 GMT

    Why not keep the WC to the top 9 teams and have the CT on the lines of the WC with all the other teams like kenya, Netherlands, ireland etc playing...Go back to the 1992 WC format where each team plays the other once and have the Eliminator round at the end...2 matches a day - a day match and the other a day-nighter!! Keeps the tournament interest alive from Day one

  • on June 24, 2013, 11:18 GMT

    Being an ardent fan of cricket, this seems good that the game ended with so much excitement and sensation. The people of India consider cricket as their religion. It was an exciting Sunday to tune on TV set @ 02:30PM and turn it off @ 02:00AM. Team India deserve to cherish this moment after a-Fixing hit IPL. People will start cheering this moment for sometime and the best team deserve to be honoured.

  • 512fm on June 24, 2013, 11:10 GMT

    I'm sorry but I still cannot comprehend how this tournament was a success. The uncompetitive matches and the rain combined for a complete borefest. The fact that the final was a twenty20 match caps it all off really.

  • mikkkk on June 24, 2013, 10:21 GMT

    Another option is to change the structure of the tournament.

    Have all of the minor countries playing but make it a proper tournament ie teams are seeded and it is knockout from start to finish.

  • mikkkk on June 24, 2013, 10:17 GMT

    There has been talk in the UK over the last few days that the ICC will reverse there decision over this tournament. The problem with it is - If you play it in England then you have full grounds (all of the games apart from 3 were 95% sold out), you have different types of pitches to suit teams from different parts of the world BUT you have variable weather. If you play it outside of England you have better weather, pitches that *only* suit the home side and empty grounds apart from when the host plays.

    Those are your choices. Depends what you want.

  • on June 24, 2013, 9:55 GMT

    The CT became a joke - it started out as a chance to give the minor nations a chance to swim with the big boys. Which is why we saw Kenya host the tournament and the USA playing one year. So what if they didn't do well. Remember Kenya making the WC semis?? When last did they play against a Test nation?

    Then it just became another money-making racket for the ICC and the minor countries, not to mention Zim and Ban were kicked into touch.

    Once again, cricket development suffers in the face of profit making. Just scrap the tournament - it serves no purpose whatsoever. Get some sort of decent program in place that give the Irelands, Afghanistans, etc of the world more chance to compete with the Test playing nations.

  • EnglishCricket on June 24, 2013, 9:55 GMT

    Not really. 8 teams equals ICC Trophy but half of them equals Asia Cup :)

  • raghav355 on June 24, 2013, 9:50 GMT

    India won the ICCCT. I think it shall be back! Mark my words! Just like the CB Series was reinstated in 2012 during India's tour!

  • on June 24, 2013, 9:43 GMT

    A "20-20 final" for a "50-50 World Cup" (albeit Champions trophy). What a shame! All for accommodating a couple of bilateral 20-20's in England , and for a tri-series in West Indies. When will the cricket administrators, the world over, develope a sense of proportion?

  • py0alb on June 24, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    Two ODI tournaments in an already overcrowded calendar was too much. However there is much to be commended about the excellent slimline format. This is how the world cups should be run - except instead of handing out places based on reputation, make every team qualify fair and square from regional groups.

  • on June 24, 2013, 9:22 GMT

    Pleas retain this tournament and the ICC should make sure that it is never hosted in the UK again (purely for weather reasons).

  • Soumya81 on June 24, 2013, 9:17 GMT

    Why not keep the WC to the top 9 teams and have the CT on the lines of the WC with all the other teams like kenya, Netherlands, ireland etc playing...Go back to the 1992 WC format where each team plays the other once and have the Eliminator round at the end...2 matches a day - a day match and the other a day-nighter!! Keeps the tournament interest alive from Day one

  • suvam.ask on June 24, 2013, 8:26 GMT

    We all love cricket in its true form whatever format it would be.......ODI has the special place in the worlds cricket and no one can remove it...

  • 9ST9 on June 24, 2013, 8:20 GMT

    Firdose, you have mentioned "it was an elimination event in which neither Bangladesh nor Kenya took part. " Wrong. Kenya played in 2000. Here's the scorecard : http://www.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/match/66170.html

  • JobeWatson on June 24, 2013, 8:08 GMT

    Bring it back! Was a fantastic tournament!

  • on June 24, 2013, 8:00 GMT

    @SnickoMeter: then we can allow the runners to compete. Re: why are we scrapping the champions trophy? why not truly have a "champions" trophy? i mean lets say the champions of odi, test, t20 world cups, play against each other in the champions trophy. that means as per current status it should be india, south africa and west indies who play against each other in a triangular series of test odis and t20s in 1 month. so it will be 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 t20s overall. the 9 matches will have points and the team with the maximum points becomes the champion of champions by winning the champions trophy (for tests winning outright can have more points, otherwise it can be decided via first inings lead)! another twist can be given to this by making it a quadrangular champions trophy by adding a challenger country who has the best and most consistent icc ranking across all 3 formats apart from the 3 champions (currently england)! then it will be 6 tests, 6 odis n 6 t20s across max 2 months

  • productivity on June 24, 2013, 7:39 GMT

    I am a pakistani & i always love to see pakistan winning................but the first time i love watching & winning india .......purely because of their aggressive & winning attitude, & the way Dhoni leads his team & youngsters like dhawan, bhuvneshwar respond its amazing to see & its remind me the era of great aus(2000-2007) where everyone is a match winner of his day.

  • Lightsaber on June 24, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    I think we are taking the survival of 50 over cricket for granted...Every format of cricket has its fans....by doing away with champions trophy we are putting to waste the most meaningful,precise,crisp tournaments in the game... We should keep cricket as it is and not force people to watch test cricket at the expense of other formats with growing popularity.. .Test cricket may be the ultimate test ...but a game is played for entertaintment ,it is not a college examination . If test cricket is the format people loves ,let them leave the choice to them instead of forcing it upon them .PROMOTE TEST CRICKET BUT NOT AT THE COST OF OTHER FORMATS..

  • Romanticstud on June 24, 2013, 6:47 GMT

    I reckon ... it should be a 50 over tournament ... yes ... but with the following criteria ... 1) played in a neutral venue ... in their dry season ... 2) have reserve days for the knockout phase ... 3) get rid of Duckworth Lewis ... if the match is rain affected the game will be calculated as such ... get the score of the first team at such stage and if the other side is above that score they win ... simple ... ie at x overs score of 1st team is y ... if 2nd team is >=y+1 then win. 4) Allow more flexibility in the bowling eg 2 bowlers max 12 overs and the others max 10 overs ... and in the batting with two batsmen nominated as power hitters ... to come in at the batting powerplay unless too many wickets have fallen ... the not out batsmen will resume at the end of the batting powerplay ... if the power hitters are not out ... the power hitters will resume at the fall of the respective wicket they were nominated at ...

  • electric_loco_WAP4 on June 24, 2013, 6:36 GMT

    Ominous signs already for India . The 'Cup' of woes are their's again !! Not W/out bit of luck . Going by how fortunes nosedived of the previous winners of ICC trophies,1 can reason why Indian fans have reasons to worry after the satisfaction of the win fades soon . They know all about it to well -not a bit fondly- to not do so . Even if you don't believe in signs and omens the impending overseas tour of SA by a young Ind team will have most worried for sure reasons . Coming to CT , you are right that was a devalued tourney and had run its course and ICC have no choice .

  • SnickoMeter on June 24, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    @ nzcricket174 if it has to be between the world cups, then it needs to be played every 4 years and not 2 :)

    @Annz N Dipz Love: What if one team is champion of more than 1 of these tournaments :)

  • RogerCasement on June 24, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    A lot of people in India and England are interested in the Champions Trophy all of a sudden and want to see it preserved. Last two Champions Trophies were described as meaningless at the time. Not sure how this tournament which was so affected by rain could be seen as more successful than the last two - unless you count the fact that Australia didn't win it, which is as good as a victory for some.

  • Timmuh on June 24, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    It doesn't serve any purpose. The WC decides the 50 over champions. The CT decides nothing. Its just yet another calendar filling pointless limited overs series. It doesn't even serve its original purpose of raising money for, and the game's profile in, second tier nations. Let it die the death the sport needs it to have.

  • nzcricket174 on June 24, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    Firstly, remove world T20, it is pointless. Secondly, remove bilateral series, replace them with triangular and quadrangular tournaments. Thirdly, play CT every 2 years in between the WC.

  • on June 24, 2013, 5:20 GMT

    why are we scrapping the champions trophy? why not truly have a "champions" trophy? i mean lets say the champions of odi, test, t20 world cups, play against each other in the champions trophy. that means as per current status it should be india, south africa and west indies who play against each other in a triangular series of test odis and t20s in a little more than 1 month. so it will be 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 t20s overall. the 9 matches will have points and the team with the maximum points becomes the champion of champions by winning the champions trophy (for tests winning outright can have more points, otherwise it can be decided via first inings lead)! another twist can be given to this by making it a quarangular champions trophy by adding a challenger country who has the best and most consistent icc ranking across all 3 formats apart from the 3 champions (currently england)! then it will be 6 tests, 6 odis and 6 t20s across max 2 months! what do u say guys?

  • ac_Indian on June 24, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    Ohh.. btw to add to my previous comment.. Well Played India :)

  • ac_Indian on June 24, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    I just feel that the CT is not over yet, it might be back. ICC wants to replace it with a test championship. We fans know how important test cricket is, but I really fear that a test championship might not be a successful event in terms of logistics, economics, accurately deciding a true deserving winner, etc. Test cricket tests skills over a longer duration and your consistency with these skills, and thus a 4 nation only, 3 match championship is in some sense is antithesis of its original idea. What if lets say Eng (i.e., the host) are not in top 4 to play at that time. It will be a financial disaster then. I have a feeling that troubles with test championship will make ICC think back towards champions trophy. I am not questioning the intent of test championship, just its feasibility. I think a good rating system and a consequent award (annual or biennial) to no 1 team is the best way for test cricket.

  • on June 24, 2013, 4:43 GMT

    india is champion....................... thats it.

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 24, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    I think 50 over cricket will continue to exist along with T20 and tests. PROVIDED, it is played with common sense. First of all, no more bilateral ODI series involving 2 teams. Bring on the quadrangulars and triangulars from yesteryear. At least those series have some meaning when more than 2 teams are involved. Secondly, scrap the world T20 and put in the Champions Trophy every 2 years with the top 6 teams instead of 8 in a shortened format. Keep ODI tournaments short and sweet and people will continue to support it. After such a successful competition and with India winning it, it's hard to see how the ICC (BCCI) would do away with it. :D

  • tickcric on June 24, 2013, 4:32 GMT

    I really believe if this match was a 50 over affair it would have favoured India. The pitch was basically subcontinental and I am sure India would have bowled a lot of spin. And based on what we saw of England's ability, or lack of it, to play spin I think India would have been the overwhelming favourites. This T20-ODI was an inappropriate way to end the tournament but I think we had the best and the second best team in the tournament holding their rightful places.

  • on June 24, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    We are the champions under our real hero msd

  • CurrynOz on June 24, 2013, 2:58 GMT

    Don't think era of ODI cricket is veover.. If Indian fans support it then it pretty much there. Without sounding arrogant it is all that actually matters as far as finaces are concerned. Indian population is twice the population of all other test playing nations put together..So if we support ODI cricket it will survive no matter how irrelevant it is.

  • Chris_P on June 24, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    The final was a T20 match, why not make all future CT's T20s? Then it won't be forgotten, mores the pity.

  • on June 24, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    India now world leaders in ODI crciket... excellent performance...

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  • on June 24, 2013, 2:34 GMT

    India now world leaders in ODI crciket... excellent performance...

  • Chris_P on June 24, 2013, 2:46 GMT

    The final was a T20 match, why not make all future CT's T20s? Then it won't be forgotten, mores the pity.

  • CurrynOz on June 24, 2013, 2:58 GMT

    Don't think era of ODI cricket is veover.. If Indian fans support it then it pretty much there. Without sounding arrogant it is all that actually matters as far as finaces are concerned. Indian population is twice the population of all other test playing nations put together..So if we support ODI cricket it will survive no matter how irrelevant it is.

  • on June 24, 2013, 3:17 GMT

    We are the champions under our real hero msd

  • tickcric on June 24, 2013, 4:32 GMT

    I really believe if this match was a 50 over affair it would have favoured India. The pitch was basically subcontinental and I am sure India would have bowled a lot of spin. And based on what we saw of England's ability, or lack of it, to play spin I think India would have been the overwhelming favourites. This T20-ODI was an inappropriate way to end the tournament but I think we had the best and the second best team in the tournament holding their rightful places.

  • Cpt.Meanster on June 24, 2013, 4:42 GMT

    I think 50 over cricket will continue to exist along with T20 and tests. PROVIDED, it is played with common sense. First of all, no more bilateral ODI series involving 2 teams. Bring on the quadrangulars and triangulars from yesteryear. At least those series have some meaning when more than 2 teams are involved. Secondly, scrap the world T20 and put in the Champions Trophy every 2 years with the top 6 teams instead of 8 in a shortened format. Keep ODI tournaments short and sweet and people will continue to support it. After such a successful competition and with India winning it, it's hard to see how the ICC (BCCI) would do away with it. :D

  • on June 24, 2013, 4:43 GMT

    india is champion....................... thats it.

  • ac_Indian on June 24, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    I just feel that the CT is not over yet, it might be back. ICC wants to replace it with a test championship. We fans know how important test cricket is, but I really fear that a test championship might not be a successful event in terms of logistics, economics, accurately deciding a true deserving winner, etc. Test cricket tests skills over a longer duration and your consistency with these skills, and thus a 4 nation only, 3 match championship is in some sense is antithesis of its original idea. What if lets say Eng (i.e., the host) are not in top 4 to play at that time. It will be a financial disaster then. I have a feeling that troubles with test championship will make ICC think back towards champions trophy. I am not questioning the intent of test championship, just its feasibility. I think a good rating system and a consequent award (annual or biennial) to no 1 team is the best way for test cricket.

  • ac_Indian on June 24, 2013, 5:09 GMT

    Ohh.. btw to add to my previous comment.. Well Played India :)

  • on June 24, 2013, 5:20 GMT

    why are we scrapping the champions trophy? why not truly have a "champions" trophy? i mean lets say the champions of odi, test, t20 world cups, play against each other in the champions trophy. that means as per current status it should be india, south africa and west indies who play against each other in a triangular series of test odis and t20s in a little more than 1 month. so it will be 3 tests, 3 odis and 3 t20s overall. the 9 matches will have points and the team with the maximum points becomes the champion of champions by winning the champions trophy (for tests winning outright can have more points, otherwise it can be decided via first inings lead)! another twist can be given to this by making it a quarangular champions trophy by adding a challenger country who has the best and most consistent icc ranking across all 3 formats apart from the 3 champions (currently england)! then it will be 6 tests, 6 odis and 6 t20s across max 2 months! what do u say guys?