Bangladesh v Pakistan, World T20 2012, Group D, Pallekele September 25, 2012

Nazir repays Whatmore's faith

At the midway point against Bangladesh, Pakistan's task was looking tricky but Imran Nazir's explosive innings quickly put paid to any nerves
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When Dav Whatmore took over as coach of Pakistan with the World Twenty20 already on the horizon, two years had passed since Imran Nazir had last played for his country. He was the player who would seemingly remain immature forever, an avid collector of rash dismissals, the sort of player who a new coach might be reluctant to put his faith in.

Whatmore, like most good coaches, favoured talent, and his ability to harness it, and the selectors delivered by recalling Nazir after good form in domestic T20 tournaments around the world.

Nazir was again dismissed in maddening fashion again on this occasion, but by then he had made 72 in a twinkle of an eye, an inspirational knock which assured Pakistan of victory and sent Bangladesh back home in the process.

Bangladesh, in their two matches, have not been impressive. They have bowled a bit like Nazir has too often batted - with a lack of sense. In the first match, they were obsessed by spin and lost to New Zealand; this time they were obsessed with their fast bowlers banging the ball halfway down and lost to Pakistan. They had just one tactic a game, the second entirely opposite to the first. Nobody seemed to recognise that a bit of variation might be worth trying.

Pakistan, in theory, had a quandary at the midway stage. Bangladesh had set them 176 to win, which even on a batting surface as good as this does not take much undershooting, but they only needed 140 to qualify. But to put the emphasis on qualification first, victory later, would have risked losing to Bangladesh for the first time since 1999.

To qualify and lose would have been a thought process entirely at odds with Pakistan's cavalier T20 approach. With Nazir opening the innings, the entire debate about whether to begin conservatively and reassess later was a waste of breath. Far better just to go out there and hammer the ball to all parts.

The last four balls of the fourth over settled the match. Shafiul Islam conceded 19, five wides and 14 for Nazir - a a club over mid-off as he freed his front leg, a pull behind square and a six over midwicket. At 43 without loss, Pakistan were in command.

Mohammad Hafeez, Pakistan's captain, said: "In the dug out we didn't discuss anything about 140. We just went out to win the game. We knew that we would chase whatever target we faced. Our bowlers couldn't bowl well - they were a little bit short - but after that we came out with a positive attitude. Imran was exceptional tonight. He is at his best in T20.

"It was great to see someone playing this kind of innings when chasing. He is a very talented player, there's no doubt about that. But sometimes he has a rush of blood. What I normally do is give him my thoughts, but I don't stop him from doing what he wants. Sometimes I tell him, we've got two boundaries in an over already, so there's no need to try for a third one. I think he listens to me. It's great to see him respond like I want."

Some people may have thought this was my last chance but I didn't look at it that way. I know the ability I have and the hard work I put in
Imran Nazir on his return to the team

Nazir has been known to blame his inability to progress on the fact that he made his Pakistan debut at 18, as if being selected for the first time at an early age had somehow locked him into a lifetime of misjudgment. It is a curious theory: perhaps if you are the sort of cook who burns toast it is because you were taught cooking at a far too early age. Or maybe you first caught a bus at five years old so for the rest of your life you keep getting off at the wrong stop.

Whatmore, though, pondered an approaching World Twenty20 and rightly concluded that Nazir had to return. The coach was given little encouragement against Australia in Dubai where Nazir made 22, 0 and 1. Even as he walked off against Bangladesh, slapping a tennis shot to long off, it was not hard to find a pundit willing to wager that it would be his one good innings of the tournament. This time it could be a dangerous bet.

Judging by the amount of time Whatmore spent debating with Nazir at a training session ahead of the game, he expects rather more. At 31, he represents Nazir's last chance, a coach who provides young players with the chance to develop in a supportive atmosphere. As Nazir still seems to think he is 18 - "it still feels as if I am making my debut," he said - it might be just what he needs.

"I have the support of many people back home and most importantly of the captain and the coach," he said. "Some people may have thought this was my last chance but I didn't look at it that way. I know the ability I have and the hard work I put in. I am such a fan of cricket and playing cricket, I don't think about whether I'll get a chance tomorrow or not. I just play. Whether I perform well or not is up to God."

Nazir's 72 took only 36 balls with 12 of them hit for boundaries, but even at a rate of two-a-ball, he could state, entirely straight-faced: "In one way this is my best innings, because I used my brains. I took the ones and twos instead of trying to hit from the word go. In 20 overs you can't hit each and every ball for four or six. All my well-wishers tell me that if I stay at the crease for 15 overs the runs will automatically come. I'm just trying to do that."

The Super Eight stage has thrown up a curiosity. All the teams which have won two matches are in one group, all the teams which have won one are in another.

But if you want travelling supporters to come to matches, and help to fill the stadiums, they need to book tickets and accommodation in advance and know where their teams are playing. Some sort of pre-planning is essential. To debate otherwise is to put statistics above pleasure. The top two of each group have qualified, get on with the fun.

David Hopps is the UK editor of ESPNcricinfo

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  • PAKISTAN_2012 on September 27, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    Where is Abdul Razzaq in the team???

  • Shazia_Javed on September 26, 2012, 21:32 GMT

    I did some stats and here is my findings: Umar Gul (last 25 matches): 82.1 overs @8.36; 686 runs, 24 wickets @28.58 = Sohail Tanvir (last 25 matches) : 82.3 overs @7.2; 593 runs, 23 wickets @25.78 = Abdul Razzaq (last 25 matches) : 43 overs @6.7; 288 runs, 15 wickets @19.2...... AND.....Umar Gul (last 10 matches): 37 overs @8.08; 299 runs, 11 wickets @27.18 = Sohail Tanvir (last 10 matches) : 31.3 overs @7.3; 228 runs, 12 wickets @19= Abdul Razzaq (last 10 matches) : 14 overs @7.2; 101 runs, 6 wickets @16.83...... Can anyone help me understand why Abdul Razzaq is being ignored, specially when we all know his added ability with the bat? and also, why there is so much hype for Umar Gul, he has been pathetic in crunch matches specially.

  • slmn on September 26, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    Hey Imran, we WANT+MORE

  • HawksEyeFocused on September 26, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    Being always a neutral observer,I always say that Pakistan is best entertainer in the World T20!!! Pakistan is the country that has consistently produced the talent!!! The cricketing world is really indebted to Pakistan for their great service to the game!!!

  • amubarak on September 26, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    I dont understand why all the top teams are in one group? Please someone tell me why?

    Thank you.

  • on September 26, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    It was a very lucky innings...lets be very frank and clear here.....Nazir is no better than Afridi. However no better than Hafeez and Whatmore to give him guidance and hopefully direct his wild slogging. With direction he is deadly.

  • ZAB2121 on September 26, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    Here's an advice for you Imran Nazir, "dont listen to Hafeezes crap and just go after SA bowlers".

  • CricketRockStar on September 26, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    actual test is against stronger team. I still dont think he do wonder but probably give 20-30 quickfire runs at best. Also shot select is poor; he need little luck too

  • Toescrusher on September 26, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Bangladesh is a club level side they need serious hard work to have a place in International cricket. At present their cricketing strength is their National enthusiasm for cricket not cricketing skills. They must work hard to establish grass root cricket particularly High School level, College level, University level, City level, and last but not the lease Academy level. If BCB take this challenge and invest their efforts having short term goal and long term goals in mind only then Bangladesh can become cricketing force in International cricket.

  • lioger on September 26, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    I am surprised that people like Shouldas-Wouldas-Couldas are commenting on the performance of IMRAN NAZIR who dont have any clue about him & his class, 'Nazir is just a mindless batsman who occasionally succeed only on docile sub continent pitches against ordinary attack' he should look for his innings against SA when he single handed won the match when all the players were struggling against Ntini & company, he was the best batsmen against AUSTRALIA in a indoor series which PAKISTAN won 2-1. Its good to express your thoughts but its more wise not to comment when you dont have any clue about a topic or person. Imran Nazir will perform against INDIA, AUS & SA u bet as long as he doesnt get bog down because of hafiz, he would be far better opening along Nasir Jamshed.Faith of Pakistan & Imran Nazir will be decided in next 6 days, if they are going to play Semi's or not, i wish PAKISTANI team all the wishes & GOOD LUCK from the bottom of my heart!!!

  • PAKISTAN_2012 on September 27, 2012, 5:58 GMT

    Where is Abdul Razzaq in the team???

  • Shazia_Javed on September 26, 2012, 21:32 GMT

    I did some stats and here is my findings: Umar Gul (last 25 matches): 82.1 overs @8.36; 686 runs, 24 wickets @28.58 = Sohail Tanvir (last 25 matches) : 82.3 overs @7.2; 593 runs, 23 wickets @25.78 = Abdul Razzaq (last 25 matches) : 43 overs @6.7; 288 runs, 15 wickets @19.2...... AND.....Umar Gul (last 10 matches): 37 overs @8.08; 299 runs, 11 wickets @27.18 = Sohail Tanvir (last 10 matches) : 31.3 overs @7.3; 228 runs, 12 wickets @19= Abdul Razzaq (last 10 matches) : 14 overs @7.2; 101 runs, 6 wickets @16.83...... Can anyone help me understand why Abdul Razzaq is being ignored, specially when we all know his added ability with the bat? and also, why there is so much hype for Umar Gul, he has been pathetic in crunch matches specially.

  • slmn on September 26, 2012, 20:31 GMT

    Hey Imran, we WANT+MORE

  • HawksEyeFocused on September 26, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    Being always a neutral observer,I always say that Pakistan is best entertainer in the World T20!!! Pakistan is the country that has consistently produced the talent!!! The cricketing world is really indebted to Pakistan for their great service to the game!!!

  • amubarak on September 26, 2012, 17:21 GMT

    I dont understand why all the top teams are in one group? Please someone tell me why?

    Thank you.

  • on September 26, 2012, 13:52 GMT

    It was a very lucky innings...lets be very frank and clear here.....Nazir is no better than Afridi. However no better than Hafeez and Whatmore to give him guidance and hopefully direct his wild slogging. With direction he is deadly.

  • ZAB2121 on September 26, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    Here's an advice for you Imran Nazir, "dont listen to Hafeezes crap and just go after SA bowlers".

  • CricketRockStar on September 26, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    actual test is against stronger team. I still dont think he do wonder but probably give 20-30 quickfire runs at best. Also shot select is poor; he need little luck too

  • Toescrusher on September 26, 2012, 13:04 GMT

    Bangladesh is a club level side they need serious hard work to have a place in International cricket. At present their cricketing strength is their National enthusiasm for cricket not cricketing skills. They must work hard to establish grass root cricket particularly High School level, College level, University level, City level, and last but not the lease Academy level. If BCB take this challenge and invest their efforts having short term goal and long term goals in mind only then Bangladesh can become cricketing force in International cricket.

  • lioger on September 26, 2012, 11:39 GMT

    I am surprised that people like Shouldas-Wouldas-Couldas are commenting on the performance of IMRAN NAZIR who dont have any clue about him & his class, 'Nazir is just a mindless batsman who occasionally succeed only on docile sub continent pitches against ordinary attack' he should look for his innings against SA when he single handed won the match when all the players were struggling against Ntini & company, he was the best batsmen against AUSTRALIA in a indoor series which PAKISTAN won 2-1. Its good to express your thoughts but its more wise not to comment when you dont have any clue about a topic or person. Imran Nazir will perform against INDIA, AUS & SA u bet as long as he doesnt get bog down because of hafiz, he would be far better opening along Nasir Jamshed.Faith of Pakistan & Imran Nazir will be decided in next 6 days, if they are going to play Semi's or not, i wish PAKISTANI team all the wishes & GOOD LUCK from the bottom of my heart!!!

  • Zaid_sl on September 26, 2012, 11:34 GMT

    Imran is never going to be a good player against good bowling attack.he doesn't realize where the fielders are,he doesn't what shot to.play for what ball

  • on September 26, 2012, 11:00 GMT

    @ MFNadeem , i agree with you completely, he is making his come back when every one was criticizing about his inclusion, so he was very low on confidence, as he will gain his confidence, we all know what he can do up the Order, and he has a ability to win the matches at his own, so if he is in the team, lets support him as long as he is in the team

  • DataQue on September 26, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    Imran Nazir single handedly won the game! I hope he gets selected for ODI games as well!! Well Done!

  • on September 26, 2012, 10:09 GMT

    He is very talented no doubt...but unfortunately he never learned his lesson...and he kept playing too many unnecessary shots at the start of his innings...

  • 100_rabh on September 26, 2012, 6:51 GMT

    i dont see him scoring more than 20s-30s against tactically stronger team. He is a walking wicket for bowlers like Steyn,Morkel and Anderson. Bowlers just need to keep him quite for 3-4 balls and then there he explodes!

  • Rexton87 on September 26, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    It was so immensely satisfying to see Imran Nazir, my favourite player, succeed. When I saw the score BD set fro PK I knew only a brilliant and valiant response will see them through. I agree with a number of comments about Imran's technique. South African, Australian and English bowlers will be a fraction faster and bounce the ball better and Imran's somewhat 'agricultural and Tennis' shorts are bound to be caught before he has crossed 15 runs. He should bear in mind this advice and play these bowlers with respect. I f he just make 30 runs in 15 overs and stay at the wicket he can reap the rewards of his outragoeus talent in last 5 overs. Go Imran our prayers are with you.

  • Samee6345 on September 26, 2012, 6:29 GMT

    further, ICC should consider other venues for such big tournments such as Australia, NZ or SA.. from last couple of years, countries like BNG, SRL or INDIA organizing so many big tournments which is not fair.

  • on September 26, 2012, 6:27 GMT

    When eight teams qualify from four groups the top of group teams play at least two matches against number two of other group. RSA,Aus, Pak and India all topped their group and still they are in same pool. Stranger than fiction.

  • Team-Ahmed on September 26, 2012, 6:26 GMT

    Let's not forget the opposition was the mighty Bangladesh and the wicket was seeming, swinging and spinning ;)

  • Samee6345 on September 26, 2012, 6:20 GMT

    also, matches are planned in Premadasa and now a days its raining there. I have checked forecast which shows it will be rainy day. ICC should do something before having NO RESULT in these super 8 matches

  • Samee6345 on September 26, 2012, 6:18 GMT

    Nazir technically is not a sound player. He needs straight asian pitches to score. He wont be able to score against Aus or SA but might do well against a weak bowling attack of India. Watmore should bring new talent and trained them well for all standards of cricket. We have Asad shafiq who is waiting but i dont think so he will get a chance.. I hope and pray that PAK will qualify for Semis

  • Hira1 on September 26, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    @BobCandy the qualification is based on the seedings which were allocated prior to the commencement of the tournament so the results in the initial round has no bearing on team group in the group 8 stage....in my opinion the grouping is done to suit England as now they have a slightly better chance to qualify for the semi final as they have to face only Sri in the grp stage and that is on Palakelle wicket. This is also to be noted that Grp 1 all matches are on Palakelle wicket where as Grp 2 all matches are in colombo more favorable to spinners

  • Hira1 on September 26, 2012, 5:41 GMT

    Nazir is just good against teams as bangladesh, zim, ireland etc...so dont expect any thing from him during the rest of the tournament but yes his place is secured for next ten matches based on yest performance.

  • on September 26, 2012, 5:30 GMT

    It will be pretty rare that Imran Nazir will get a life with such drop against SA,IND or AUS. So he has to be very careful in his shot selection & play the ball on it's merit. If he performs against these giant teams then he has a survival chance else it will be a die situation for him.

  • Asim_Abdullah on September 26, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    Nazir needs heaps of luck to score against quality teams. Australians & S/Africans wont bowl and catch like the Bangla. New Ball swings more at Colombo than Pallekele and Nazir + pak. batsmen will be tested. Time to give Sami a chance, he (Sami) will not be worst than Tanveer . Good luck to Team Pakistan !

  • on September 26, 2012, 4:57 GMT

    @BobCandy this is the based on their current ICC ranking not based on their performance in this tournament. Its looks quite strange for me as well.

  • laggard on September 26, 2012, 4:49 GMT

    The identities of A1, A2, B1, B2, C1, C2, D1 and D2 were decided according to seedings and were in place before the group stage began. So India Was A2 and England A1 no matter what position they finished in as long as both qualified. Among other reasons, this helps travelling fans know at which venue their team will play in the Super Eights. Had Afghanistan beat both India and England and qualified first, they would have taken the identity of the team that did not make it from Group A: A2 if India had failed to qualify, and A1 had England been knocked out.

    Source: Cricinfo

  • HawksEyeFocused on September 26, 2012, 4:44 GMT

    "To qualify and lose would have been a thought process entirely at odds with Pakistan's cavalier T20 approach." Only this statement tells us a lot about the T20 prowess of Pakistan, the soul of World Cricket!!!

  • eagle-pk on September 26, 2012, 4:30 GMT

    drop catch ??? well peeps all batsmen, have chances in their great innings , drop catch doesnt mean that the nazir hasnt got the ability to bat further ?? a drop catch and you guys are dissing Nazir like he make fielder forcefully drop that catch , in all three matches of this event Nazir and Hafeez has given a better stand and i hope thing will further get better "" Shouldas-Wouldas-Couldas "" Imran Nazir has played his best innings against south africa in his start of career but perhaps you havent been born at that time .

  • nazy768 on September 26, 2012, 4:20 GMT

    I am a srlankan and i started playing cricket just looking at sanath, after sanath its imran. if i know imran is playing in any league game i will be the first one to watch that. i am really glad he is back, and back with a bang. he is a real entertainer, as a fan thts wat we want from our players. and who ever talking abut nazir. just ask ur self why u guys watching cricket. for sure its for entertainment. and i am sure he is a master in tht.

  • satish619chandar on September 26, 2012, 4:03 GMT

    Well.. He is a kind of player who on most of his days is going to score at faster rate when left undismissed. Like Old Afridi. If Afridi plays for 60 balls in a ODI, he will end up atleast 85+ if not a 100. Very rarely does these guys play 30+ balls for around 40 in T20 or even any format of game. In Nasir Jamshed, Pakistan now has a attacking sensible player who can carry the innings if the big hitter in Nazir gets out early and they got the Akmal brothers. The best case to choke them would be to get the big hitters with score 40-3 liek what happened to England the other day. Get them in early and make the smashers to play a sensible innings. Never allow them to run away with the tempo.

  • on September 26, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    Who is the genius who made super 8 groups with all no:1 teams in one group and all no:2 teams in the second group? So the reward for being number:1 in the first stage is that you get a tougher super 8 group?

  • Dilectus on September 26, 2012, 2:53 GMT

    @ Shouldas-Wouldas-Couldas Man i wish u had some other thing to do than waste your time spreading hopelessness. There is no shortage of talent in Imran though he has not been able to perform consistently. Hopps is absolutely right about Whatmore preferring talent. I think you call the other Imran (Farhat) a talent. IMO

  • dmqi on September 26, 2012, 2:26 GMT

    Nazir will need much more patience and improved technique against South African and Australian pace attack. They will not bowl like Bangladesh and certainly will not drop easy catches. I wish him and other Pakistani batsmen luck against SA-Aus pace attack.

  • BobCandy on September 26, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    Can anyone explain to me how the 4 teams who finished top of their qualifying groups are all drawn in the same super 8 group?? How is it fair that Pak, india, SA and Au are in the same super 8 group?????

  • JBerger on September 25, 2012, 23:53 GMT

    Imran Nazir is nor different than Shahid Afridi, players like those wait for luck to favor them instead of depending on their learning curve...........oops my bad I forgot they don't have a learning curve! But what it's worth, it's wonderful to watch them when they click.

  • MFNadeem on September 25, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    Finally, the lady luck smiled on Imran Nazir. He is a bet, alright, but he is a safe bet. If he comes off, be aware that the team has won. If he fails, Pakistan has now enough resources to compensate for his failure.

  • OhPakistan on September 25, 2012, 21:27 GMT

    Mr. Hopps; ( with due apologies ) I do not agree with contents ( of your article ) and esp. "Whatmore, like most good coaches, favoured talent, and his ability to harness it" wrt Imran Nazir. Imran Nazir was given "more than" his fare share of chances in past ( and FAILED on majority of opportunities b4 being dropped ). IF WHATMORE THINKS IMRAN NAZIR A "TALENT" then he is probably one of the many Pakistanis who demand Nazir's inclusion. Kindly note, Nazir is just a mindless batsman who occasionally succeed only on docile sub continent pitches against ordinary attack. He may do well against present Indian bowling but make no mistake Nazir will be taken out by the "CLASSY" South African duo ( Steyn & Morckle ) and efficient Australians. But in present scenario ( a catch 22 situ. ) Pakistan have no other alternative - but to preserve with him ( and hope for the best ). Being a Pakistan support, I wish I am proven wrong ( Unlikely )!

  • babarzia on September 25, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    Well like any other Pakistani I love when Nazir comes off. Lets not forget that he was dropped with nothing on the board. SA/AUS/IND do not drop these catches.

  • Syed_imran_abbas on September 25, 2012, 21:06 GMT

    Well played Nazir. Hafeez is a good guide on other end for him as a captain. umer gul should rather leave cricket if he is gonna hammered from kids like this. Sohail tanvir and arfat have no place in squad. Grouping criteria for super 8 is absolutly wrong. I would be watching only one group matches. But others got unfair chances.

  • on September 25, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    Umm. If the dolly catch, that was dropped on duck, been taken, would that still have kept the Whatmore's faith? lol. Good performance by Nazir anyways.

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  • on September 25, 2012, 21:03 GMT

    Umm. If the dolly catch, that was dropped on duck, been taken, would that still have kept the Whatmore's faith? lol. Good performance by Nazir anyways.

  • Syed_imran_abbas on September 25, 2012, 21:06 GMT

    Well played Nazir. Hafeez is a good guide on other end for him as a captain. umer gul should rather leave cricket if he is gonna hammered from kids like this. Sohail tanvir and arfat have no place in squad. Grouping criteria for super 8 is absolutly wrong. I would be watching only one group matches. But others got unfair chances.

  • babarzia on September 25, 2012, 21:19 GMT

    Well like any other Pakistani I love when Nazir comes off. Lets not forget that he was dropped with nothing on the board. SA/AUS/IND do not drop these catches.

  • OhPakistan on September 25, 2012, 21:27 GMT

    Mr. Hopps; ( with due apologies ) I do not agree with contents ( of your article ) and esp. "Whatmore, like most good coaches, favoured talent, and his ability to harness it" wrt Imran Nazir. Imran Nazir was given "more than" his fare share of chances in past ( and FAILED on majority of opportunities b4 being dropped ). IF WHATMORE THINKS IMRAN NAZIR A "TALENT" then he is probably one of the many Pakistanis who demand Nazir's inclusion. Kindly note, Nazir is just a mindless batsman who occasionally succeed only on docile sub continent pitches against ordinary attack. He may do well against present Indian bowling but make no mistake Nazir will be taken out by the "CLASSY" South African duo ( Steyn & Morckle ) and efficient Australians. But in present scenario ( a catch 22 situ. ) Pakistan have no other alternative - but to preserve with him ( and hope for the best ). Being a Pakistan support, I wish I am proven wrong ( Unlikely )!

  • MFNadeem on September 25, 2012, 23:03 GMT

    Finally, the lady luck smiled on Imran Nazir. He is a bet, alright, but he is a safe bet. If he comes off, be aware that the team has won. If he fails, Pakistan has now enough resources to compensate for his failure.

  • JBerger on September 25, 2012, 23:53 GMT

    Imran Nazir is nor different than Shahid Afridi, players like those wait for luck to favor them instead of depending on their learning curve...........oops my bad I forgot they don't have a learning curve! But what it's worth, it's wonderful to watch them when they click.

  • BobCandy on September 26, 2012, 0:33 GMT

    Can anyone explain to me how the 4 teams who finished top of their qualifying groups are all drawn in the same super 8 group?? How is it fair that Pak, india, SA and Au are in the same super 8 group?????

  • dmqi on September 26, 2012, 2:26 GMT

    Nazir will need much more patience and improved technique against South African and Australian pace attack. They will not bowl like Bangladesh and certainly will not drop easy catches. I wish him and other Pakistani batsmen luck against SA-Aus pace attack.

  • Dilectus on September 26, 2012, 2:53 GMT

    @ Shouldas-Wouldas-Couldas Man i wish u had some other thing to do than waste your time spreading hopelessness. There is no shortage of talent in Imran though he has not been able to perform consistently. Hopps is absolutely right about Whatmore preferring talent. I think you call the other Imran (Farhat) a talent. IMO

  • on September 26, 2012, 3:48 GMT

    Who is the genius who made super 8 groups with all no:1 teams in one group and all no:2 teams in the second group? So the reward for being number:1 in the first stage is that you get a tougher super 8 group?