NZ v WI, Super Eights, World Twenty20, Pallekele September 30, 2012

Win, then hope for the best for West Indies and New Zealand

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Match facts

October 1, 2012
Start time 1530 (1000 GMT)

Big Picture

New Zealand players may have had a gastro problem or three, but surely they and West Indies have received the best of Sri Lankan hospitality? For, on Monday, they'll hope like hell that the hosts beat England.

New Zealand have no points so far, and their only entry point is if they beat West Indies and England lose too, to force a three-way tie at two points. If that happens, New Zealand will stand a good chance of making it to the semi-finals: their net run-rate of -0.268 is already better than West Indies' -0.621, and not too worse than England's -0.115. If it all goes to plan for New Zealand, their own net run-rate will improve, and England's will take a beating, bridging that gap.

Theoretically West Indies can be a part of a three-way tie even if they lose, but their poor net run-rate after the thrashing from Sri Lanka means it does them no good. In theory, West Indies too will have two avenues if they beat New Zealand: an England defeat later will give them a clear passage, while it will be a three-way tie with England and Sri Lanka should England win. Again, though, West Indies' net run-rate is likely to keep them third-best should the hosts lose.

So, for both the sides, the endeavour will be to win without worrying too much about the net run-rate and hope Sri Lanka keep up their good form later in the day. However, if only the second match is rained out, it will be bad news for New Zealand and good for West Indies. Neither of them can afford a whole washed-out day. If only the first game is washed out, New Zealand go out, and West Indies will again hope for a Sri Lanka win.

Form guide

New Zealand LLLWW (completed matches, most recent first)
West Indies LWLWW

Watch out for

Ross Taylor finds himself under pressure not just for his lack of runs, but also his tinkering of the batting order. Monday will provide him one last chance of not only redeeming himself in this tournament, but to get a measure of retribution after a highly disappointing tour of the Caribbean earlier this year.

Darren Sammy hasn't exactly endeared himself to the West Indies fans with his selections either. At the heart of West Indies' problems has been a glut of bits-and-pieces allrounders, and not enough specialist bowlers. That was one of the reasons they lost after making 191 against Australia. It didn't help that even those three specialist bowlers against Sri Lanka didn't include Samuel Badree, who helped set up the win against England with four overs for just 20 runs. Sammy's captaincy, and his place in the side, are under scrutiny at best of times. Only a qualification to the semi-finals will be able to silence those voices, that too temporarily.

Team news

New Zealand will be hoping for a return to wellness for Jacob Oram, in whose absence Doug Bracewell played against England, and played little part in the match while the contest was alive. Oram spent whole of Saturday unwell and throwing up throughout the day, and New Zealand are hoping it's a "24-hour thing". It's unlikely New Zealand will look at any other changes.

New Zealand (probable) 1 Martin Guptill, 2 Rob Nicol, 3 Brendon McCullum (wk), 4 Ross Taylor (capt), 5 James Franklin, 6 Kane Williamson, 7 Jacob Oram/Doug Bracewell, 8 Daniel Vettori, 9 Nathan McCullum, 10 Tim Southee, 11 Kyle Mills.

For West Indies, Badree should come back, not least because New Zealand are not the best players of spin. The question is, will he replace a specialist bowler or one of the many allrounders?

West Indies (probable) 1 Chris Gayle, 2 Johnson Charles, 3 Marlon Samuels, 4 Dwayne Bravo, 5 Kieron Pollard, 6 Darren Sammy (capt), 7 Andre Russell/Fidel Edwards, 8 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 9 Sunil Narine, 10 Ravi Rampaul, 11 Samuel Badree.

Pitch and conditions

On Saturday, Pallekele finally showed signs of assistance to spin, with a drier track. The rain has stayed away so far, and hopefully it will for one more day.

Stats and trivia

  • When Chris Gayle fell for 2 against Sri Lanka, he had scored fewer than 50 for the first time in five efforts. That is a record he shares with Brendon McCullum.
  • Kieron Pollard has never won been Man of the Match in his 28 T20Is.

    Quotes

    "I'd rather see Brendon McCullum at the top. I don't think he is quite assured of how he wants to play the game coming in at No. 3, because if New Zealand lose a wicket, he has to play a slightly different game. Perhaps get Ross Taylor in at No. 3, and give him more time to bat."
    Former New Zealand quick Simon Doull wants the best New Zealand batsmen to face majority of the bowling

    "It's a must-win for us now. The good thing for us is that we are playing New Zealand. We just played them in the Caribbean, we have a pretty good idea of what this side is made up of."
    Darren Sammy banks on familiarity

    Sidharth Monga is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Love_Tanmay on October 1, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    @ Jayawardane Chandana ohh buddy...atleast india can beat sl in sl....

  • Sinhaya on October 1, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    @Narbavi yeah you all won all due to umpiring howlers in your favor! No way could you all have beaten us in our shores unless that useless umpire Kumar Dharmasena played for you all and ended up becoming the ICC UMPIRE OF THE YEAR THANKS TO BCCI!!

  • Jawwad.ali on October 1, 2012, 14:13 GMT

    can anybody tell me ......... does the run rate in super over counts towards overall net run rate?

  • Narbavi on October 1, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    @Colombo SL-How funny of you to talk of ICC t20 RANKINGS BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT ENDED. This reminds me bangladeshi fans who were jumping with joy for becoming NO:4 couple of months ago.

  • Narbavi on October 1, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    @Jayawardane Chandana : Because we are bored of beating srilanka

  • Love_Tanmay on October 1, 2012, 9:48 GMT

    @James Anderson ohhh buddyyy..u think that indians r joker....they r world champion...so keep u r words for u r country...

  • Jawwad.ali on October 1, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    can anybody tell me ......... does the run rate in super over counts towards overall net run rate?

  • BG4cricket on October 1, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    Think WI should chase and play Badree. Not confident NZ have much chance tonight

  • sichu_emerald on October 1, 2012, 9:25 GMT

    To all my fellow Indians, why so much haste with other cricketing nations. Cricket is a game that needs to grow along with its fans, certainly not the hasteness. For this very reason i dont read the comments section regularly, I am seeing pathetic comments bashing Sri Lanka everywhere, be it between Pak Vs Aus, Eng Vs Ban, NZ Vs WI, Ind Vs Afg...and so on... common guys, have a life, Dont belittle any team, It may be a hard fact to digest for many of us that Sri Lankans are a better team at the moment. Guys admit it and go on. Having said that Indians are definitely not at their worst and the team has good attitude which drives out success in many of its games. Every team has got potential and desire to WIN...and end of the day, team with best attitude wins. Lets hope for the best.

  • on October 1, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    I don't think New Zealand will win because we cant see the player!

  • Love_Tanmay on October 1, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    @ Jayawardane Chandana ohh buddy...atleast india can beat sl in sl....

  • Sinhaya on October 1, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    @Narbavi yeah you all won all due to umpiring howlers in your favor! No way could you all have beaten us in our shores unless that useless umpire Kumar Dharmasena played for you all and ended up becoming the ICC UMPIRE OF THE YEAR THANKS TO BCCI!!

  • Jawwad.ali on October 1, 2012, 14:13 GMT

    can anybody tell me ......... does the run rate in super over counts towards overall net run rate?

  • Narbavi on October 1, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    @Colombo SL-How funny of you to talk of ICC t20 RANKINGS BEFORE THE TOURNAMENT ENDED. This reminds me bangladeshi fans who were jumping with joy for becoming NO:4 couple of months ago.

  • Narbavi on October 1, 2012, 11:55 GMT

    @Jayawardane Chandana : Because we are bored of beating srilanka

  • Love_Tanmay on October 1, 2012, 9:48 GMT

    @James Anderson ohhh buddyyy..u think that indians r joker....they r world champion...so keep u r words for u r country...

  • Jawwad.ali on October 1, 2012, 9:38 GMT

    can anybody tell me ......... does the run rate in super over counts towards overall net run rate?

  • BG4cricket on October 1, 2012, 9:30 GMT

    Think WI should chase and play Badree. Not confident NZ have much chance tonight

  • sichu_emerald on October 1, 2012, 9:25 GMT

    To all my fellow Indians, why so much haste with other cricketing nations. Cricket is a game that needs to grow along with its fans, certainly not the hasteness. For this very reason i dont read the comments section regularly, I am seeing pathetic comments bashing Sri Lanka everywhere, be it between Pak Vs Aus, Eng Vs Ban, NZ Vs WI, Ind Vs Afg...and so on... common guys, have a life, Dont belittle any team, It may be a hard fact to digest for many of us that Sri Lankans are a better team at the moment. Guys admit it and go on. Having said that Indians are definitely not at their worst and the team has good attitude which drives out success in many of its games. Every team has got potential and desire to WIN...and end of the day, team with best attitude wins. Lets hope for the best.

  • on October 1, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    I don't think New Zealand will win because we cant see the player!

  • Hamdard786 on October 1, 2012, 9:14 GMT

    As every one know, today there are two games so I wil go for Windies and England so Lankan will be out and windies and England will reach to Semi. In case there is no rain today otherwise every one knows......... best luck

  • Netaji_121 on October 1, 2012, 9:12 GMT

    Late_cut has been 'CUT' and he won't come back here again after pak and him getting thrashing yesterday....:-)

  • on October 1, 2012, 9:11 GMT

    @ Narbavi I thought India can beat Aus at-least in ASIAN country venue. But see how they lost CB series and last T20 match. So that mean IND can beat any team @ IND only. But that also not sure.

  • Sachit1979 on October 1, 2012, 9:10 GMT

    I think Windies should pick Dwayne Smith and Darren Bravo in place of out of form Keiron Pollard and leaking Fidel Edwards. They would still be good with bowling with Rampaul and Narine as their key bowlers, Sammy, Bravo and Russel as support bowlers, Gayle and Samuels as part time spinners and Dwayne Smith as another part time medium pacer. I have seen Dwayne opening the bowling and being fairly successful in few matches in past. Thus the squad may look like this: Gayle, Charles, DRSmith, Samuels, Dr Bravo, Dw Bravo, Russel, Sammy, Ramdin, Rampaul and Narine

  • avi_smita89 on October 1, 2012, 9:02 GMT

    being an indian fan...i backed WI to lift the trophy this time,but it seems dull...so nw india is the firm favorites according to me to lift the cup...:)GO india Go!!!!!!!

  • on October 1, 2012, 9:00 GMT

    @ Narbavi - Why India always lose to Australia & South Africa ??

  • on October 1, 2012, 8:26 GMT

    its going to be WI... we want them in semis to stop australia...

  • sid6191 on October 1, 2012, 8:20 GMT

    @Late-Cut warm up games don't mean Jack,just refer to 2009 Ind-Pak World Cup warm up.

  • kassa87 on October 1, 2012, 7:54 GMT

    @ narbavi, if world's no 1 ranked team is minnows what are the others?

  • Hira1 on October 1, 2012, 7:15 GMT

    WI need to beat NZ, its nice to watch WI in the semi finals and giving tough fight to australia then NZ / ENG who even if qualify will loose badly in colombo

  • on October 1, 2012, 7:05 GMT

    @Late-Cut hope u would have seen yesterday's match, Pak has been Viratised, Balajised and Yurajised.

  • AS7777 on October 1, 2012, 6:55 GMT

    World rank number one team Minnows? Number 7 is not ? what the hack....

  • PACERONE on October 1, 2012, 6:48 GMT

    If Sammy is to be blamed then the selectors will also have to take most of the blame.These guys keep selecting the same players and hoping for the best.Changes should of been made against NZ in the W.I.Edwards,Rampaul Pollard,Smith and Sammy are depriving other good exciting players from playing.All of the W.I bowlers are right handed and short.Benn,Johnson,Cottrell and Permaul are bowlers who could replace the ineffective bowler presently employed.Lil Bravo should be used as wicket-keeper or replacing Pollard.W.I might be the only team without a left arm bowler.When is Benn and Shillingford going to get a chance to play?These two along with Narine would be a handful for batsmen all over the world.I say get Benn,Holder, Johnson and Shillingford involved.

  • Businessman on October 1, 2012, 6:32 GMT

    Minnows shocked the Pakistan. :P

  • Lankanforever on October 1, 2012, 5:40 GMT

    fellow Sri Lankans, Please ignore narbavi. we have nothing to do in this page other than congratulating the two teams and hoping for a NZ win cause that will give us an automatic place in the semis.

  • nzbOynz on October 1, 2012, 5:26 GMT

    What on earth is it with all the India v Pakistan comments on here? This is a preview of the match between West Indies and New Zealand, the game has, at this stage, absolutely no effect on either of those two teams. I don't think a game preview should be open-season for people to air their frustrations at other teams or their own.

    Now, back to business. This game is going to be a cracker. Surely the NZ line-up will fire at some stage and all it takes is something special from Guptill, McCullum or Taylor and NZ could have a huge score. The problem is they haven't looked likely yet. The fact both teams really need to be gunning for a win is important too, that tends to bring out the best in both sides.

    Big things will be how NZ plays spin, whether their fielding remains quality, whether W.I. can bat deeper than 3 or 4, and whether the Windies spin options will perform as well against NZ away from home.

    Can't wait!.

  • mysay on October 1, 2012, 5:23 GMT

    So it all comes down to who better rubs the SL backs. That too is only if SL are feeling generous.

  • Narbavi on October 1, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    @SLfan: Look mate all this hatred is because of you guys making fun of us all the time when we lose, why should you do that when your own team hasn't done anything significant?? and also why do that when you lose all the time to india?? no point man!!

  • colombo_SL on October 1, 2012, 4:59 GMT

    @Narbavi, WE ARE THE ICC TWENTY20 NO.1 SPOT HOLDER NOW. IF WE ARE MINNOWS, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT YOU LOL.

  • colombo_SL on October 1, 2012, 4:57 GMT

    @Narbavi; Minnows shocked down Pakistan.

  • silly_pt on October 1, 2012, 4:39 GMT

    @Late-Cut:FYI even if Pakistan wins against Australia India can qualify for semis as their NRR is very close to Pakistan and beating a clueless SA is not that difficult. So ironically its SL who will be praying that they don't have to face India in semis given their current form against India. I wish that WI qualifies for semis so that they can surprise Australia. Looks like AUS, SL, WI, Pak/Ind semifinal. I would have loved an Ind - Pak final but chances are bleak. @Narbavi and similar indian fans: please don't write so much hatred and/or nonsense in your comments. Its not going to help anyone. Just cheer for ur own country and good cricket in general. That feels so much better believe me. Cricinfo publish.

  • ashguru123 on October 1, 2012, 4:20 GMT

    SEMI FINALS

    SL Vs INDIA AUS Vs Eng

    Final

    SL Vs AUS

  • on October 1, 2012, 3:32 GMT

    @Narbavi, Mate Who is (team India) your teams coach? Where does he come from? Minnows? Your team is full of excuses. Fast becoming a joker of Asia. Good luck NZ. Hope you will get a good win tonight.

  • ashguru123 on October 1, 2012, 3:09 GMT

    RAIN rain come today...NZ and WI have to out of the T20 world cup..

  • phoenixsteve on October 1, 2012, 2:02 GMT

    So it seems that somewhat ironically England's fate lies in their own hands? A very fortuante postition for the team who by and large have disappointed and failed to perform. Furthermore they've had the best of the groupings and playing last tomorrow is an additional benefit! Maybe God really is an Englishman.... Hopefully England will grab the chance with both hand s and then it's just a simple matter of winning 2 more games? It seems also that Windies, Pakistan and SA ghave also caught England's inconsistency virus... Let's hope for some good games tomorrow..... COME ON ENGLAND!!!

  • Sinhaya on October 1, 2012, 1:45 GMT

    @Narbavi, you are talking utter nonsense! Minnows cant beat Australia 4 times in ODIs, which happened this year! You cant admit Sri Lanka succeeding because you have something personal against us.

  • MichaelBurton on October 1, 2012, 1:29 GMT

    @ Love_Tanmay : Not really Ausies at the 6th.

  • iVarchas on October 1, 2012, 1:28 GMT

    Sammy, don't let familiarity breed contempt. Go there and finish and hope for the best.

  • MichaelBurton on October 1, 2012, 1:26 GMT

    @Love_Tanmay: In your dreams mate. Aus/Pak/SL will win the WC. Probability is in the same order.

  • MichaelBurton on October 1, 2012, 1:08 GMT

    @Gagg: Sorry mate. Just a mistake in wording. AUS, PAK, SL and NZ deserve to be in the finals. But, WI will get through ahead NZ.

  • GasPipe on October 1, 2012, 0:39 GMT

    Bracewell for Oram, and BJ Watling in for Williamson, this would be much better for NZ. But as @Adrian Smith says, Bracewell needs to be given a better opportunity, he is a class cricketer in the making. Watling is just better suited for T20 than is Williamson, and performed admirably in the West Indies Tour.

  • ravensloft on October 1, 2012, 0:32 GMT

    My question is: why is nobody questioning the reason for johnson charles opening the batting? He seems to waste 20 balls before he starts getting steam even in the england match he was lucky he got dropped otherwise again his strike rate would have been at or below a 100. why not change and try pollard at the top or even sammy. Charles is not going to get lucky in every match. As for the bowling why doesnt fidel edwards bowl yorkers at his pace he would definitely trouble most batsmen. in the Sl match he was either bowling short on the off or was drifting on to the pads. This West Indian team has the most destructive batting lineup of all the teams i wish they would show us what they can do.

  • Late-Cut on October 1, 2012, 0:17 GMT

    @Eat_sleep_play_cricket; well, Pakistan lost today due to the bad execution of their game plan. Don't celebrate too much coz its the same team which thrashed India during the warm-up game. So today's victory proved nothing. Btw the predictions of all the indians are falling apart as W'indies ('n beloved India as well) r hanging by a thread mean while SL are on a victory run. And they are now ICC no. 1 too. Who thought that mighty India would be praying for Aussies to win against Pakistan in order to get a slight chance for semis. :))) Btw you wouldn't know what hit you when angry Proteas launch a full frontal attack throwing everything they've got.

  • cric_bd on September 30, 2012, 23:47 GMT

    summy never use bravo.....pollard.....smith.....russel as a bowler only because their bowling is far far better then summy.......all of the players in d world have some role with bat or ball bt summy have the role of just making wi team 10 men to 11 men side!!!!!!! if wi really need a captain like summy then we never mind to see 1st time a team leading by 12th man.....so master of everything 'Summy' leave best eleven for smith or some one esle..........

  • on September 30, 2012, 23:39 GMT

    The WI really muddled up the batting order, Andre russell should be batting higher @ least number 6

  • Htc-Android on September 30, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    @Narbavi. this is a game between NZ and WI. why r u unnecessarily bringing sri lanka here. what does this page has to do with Sri lanka?

  • DWO1 on September 30, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    The West Indies for a Team considered to be a technical "Dream Team" have applied pressure on themselves by not fielding the best team or making the correct decisions when necessary during the Championship. They should NOT be in a position where they're dependent on run rate, sides losing or weather conditions. Nevertheless, as a true supporter i'll continue to support them ...

  • kobler on September 30, 2012, 21:59 GMT

    Time for a full strength WI team with a proper captain

  • on September 30, 2012, 21:45 GMT

    W.I. should have selected kevon cooper in their sidde. He would have increased the bowling power and he can also hit. Pollard should also start to bowl, or he should be replaced.

  • on September 30, 2012, 20:29 GMT

    New Zealand need to include Bracewell and give the guy a chance. He was not managed in terms of his introduction to the attack and needs to be given a chance higher up the batting order. He is young but he has bowled some heady overs and played some heady knocks - but these seem like distant memories. He is a genuine talent - and given the chance his confidence will grow and he will become a fantastic allrounder in every format. Williamson (as been said time and time again) is not yet a viable T20 exponent and he needs to make way for Bracewell. Mike Hesson I hope your listening...

  • yorkslanka on September 30, 2012, 20:13 GMT

    @boggy saunders- well said sir...

  • TestOfTime on September 30, 2012, 18:59 GMT

    Guys, lets lay off Narbavi, alright? I am really disappointed that Windies are in this situation. They were touted to be the favs to win the cup, but it hasnt worked out for them.

  • on September 30, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    even though the batting has not lived up to its expectations West Indies should always bowl and back themselves to make what ever runs the opposition makes.

  • anton111 on September 30, 2012, 18:26 GMT

    Sammy is a liability to the WI. He does not bowl, bat nor captain well.

  • Love_Tanmay on September 30, 2012, 17:53 GMT

    @Gihan Abeyratne ohh buddyy if u consider ranking system then aussies are.on.9 th position

  • Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on September 30, 2012, 17:43 GMT

    @Late-Cut: Your predictions did come true. Well done! we look forward to hearing more from you in the future. You might has well join RandyOZ in the experts panel. Westindies lets do it for all your supporters! and England as usual they will be on the top!

  • Love_Tanmay on September 30, 2012, 17:36 GMT

    @ SLfan @Boggy Saunders @Kays789 ohh guysss U r memory power is very badd..india won 2011 wc by beating pakistan,australia,sl in quterfinal,semifinal,final respectively.... @Boggy saunders according to u if india is minnows then its good that minnow won wc by beating u majors

  • Surajdon9 on September 30, 2012, 15:57 GMT

    Even contest.................................................

  • SLfan on September 30, 2012, 15:37 GMT

    @ Narbavi - Then why you guys ALWAYS lose to Australia literally ??? Remember CB series ? Please also recall the thrashing you guys received in last week as well !! According to your logic, does that mean, Australia is better than India ?...Just asking mate.

  • on September 30, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    HELP! HELP!,,,ANY BODY,,,,Sammy or someone who can make a defference please....Given that our best strike bowler who can possible take wickets who is Roach and he was left at home... Please do not play Rampaul nor Edwards in the rest of the tornament unless someone got injured!!!!!!they are leaking runs like strainer! we cant afford that anymore!Please use WI use your strength and dont watch what other teams are doing, they are using their strength. We have our in batting, spin and somewhat feilding. We are also able to contain with medium past. The team for the rest of the tornament shoul be = Charles, Gayle, Samuels, Dwayne Bravo, Darren Dravo, Sammy,Andre Russell, Ramdin, BAdree, Narine, Pollard or the care taker for the stadium!

  • kobler on September 30, 2012, 15:13 GMT

    I am a WI fan hoping that Sammy loses the toss

  • Kays789 on September 30, 2012, 14:49 GMT

    @Narbavi, of course after 80 odd years of international cricket, and 1.2 billion people to select a decent 11 from and all the money/resources in the world, you'd think india's thrashed australia in australia to make such remarks against SL right? oh that's right. india's won zilch in australia. what a shocker! just two words come to mind. overpaid, overhyped.

  • on September 30, 2012, 14:42 GMT

    whenever we talk about T20 cricket Narbavi pulls out the same thing over and over again - test series in Australia and England. You have to be more creative pal, talking about what happened a few years ago(as in the case of series win against England in 2007 the same year SL and Bangladesh knocked India out of the world cup) aint gonna help talk about the last year or so - if we go back to past history don't you remember the days Azharudin and the divine tendulkar led India ? SL bashed you guys around a lot - wasn't It india who got out for 50 odd on a belter at sharjah? And wasn't it Indian fans who couldn't digest losing (like you) who threw bottles at the field at calcutta? Oh BTW I am curios to know have India actually won a test SERIES in Australia ?

  • on September 30, 2012, 14:27 GMT

    @Narbavi - minnows CAN shock teams - that's what happened to England last sunday and Pakistan should be cautious that they too might lose to a minnow today.

  • on September 30, 2012, 14:25 GMT

    West Indies are doomed to fail because of poor selection. Wrong will not stand.

  • on September 30, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    Why k.Pollard is always selected even wi have option of D.Smith to replace him..... My Eleven is Charls,Gayle,D Bravo,Samules,Smith,Russle,L.Simmions (WK),Sammy,Russle,Narine,Edwards.....

    Its last chance shld give chance to Smith over Pollard and Simmions over r.din

  • DavidNorman99 on September 30, 2012, 13:57 GMT

    Roughly speaking, a winning team's net run rate will increase by about 0.1 for every 4 runs they win by, or every 5 balls they have to spare when they win. And the losing team's net run rate will decrease by a similar amount (exact figures depend on the actual scores). So West Indies need to win by about 20 runs more than England to overtake them if they both win, and New Zealand need to win by about 6 runs to guarantee to go through if England lose.

  • ca2ca on September 30, 2012, 13:56 GMT

    Ho Ho Ho,

    Watsonised, Ajmalised or Hefeezed, that good !

  • LilAnzac on September 30, 2012, 13:45 GMT

    @ Narbavi. The only thing that "we all know" is that you are blinded by your love for your team. SL are quality from top to bottom where NZ and WI rely too much on a few players. Both sides lack consistency and SL don't.. Hence their No. 2 ranking. Wake up mate..

  • sree012 on September 30, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    If NZ beat WI and england lost to SRI,then NZ may go to semis.NZ have a better runrate than WI and england is only slightly ahead.So if ENG loose it will drop i guess.AUS vs NZ and PAK vs SRI in semis

  • Narbavi on September 30, 2012, 13:26 GMT

    @Gihan Abeyratne: what is your point?? you saying lanka is better than india?? then tell why do u guys lose to us all the time literally??

  • boyie83 on September 30, 2012, 13:25 GMT

    I am the #1 West Indian fan but it's about time they go home! Why are we ignoring the quality of Daren Bravo? Charles is no good but with that 84 will get selected. Now K.Pollard.. why is he always preferred over Russell... Am i the only one who see Pollard as a lucky cricketer? When was the last time Pollard did something worth talking about?What did Badree do wrong? Why is Ramdin still in my team?

    My Pick.. 1. Gayle 2. Charles 3. Daren Bravo 4. Samuels 5. Simmons (wk) 6. Dawyne Bravo 7. Russell 8. Sammy 9.Narine 10. Badree 11. Edwards/Rampaul

  • Narbavi on September 30, 2012, 13:25 GMT

    @Sinhabahu: Which team always gets trashed at the hands of india but still makes fun, which team hasn't won a test series in england and australia but talk about a team which has won in those places?

  • StevieS on September 30, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Manojin why do WI deserve to be there? If NZ beat them then thy won't go through as they got thrashed in a game whereas NZ have not been thrashed. The more I have watched this tournement the more I hope WI ain't in the finals, one or two good players and the rest average club cricketers.

  • xylo on September 30, 2012, 13:10 GMT

    If I were Nostradamus, this is what I would go with - Aus, Pak, WI, SL, and Pak v SL for the final.

  • Late-Cut on September 30, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    huh haa...this keeps getting better day 'n day. Its sad to see that Narbavi, Eat_sleep_play, sobersfan 'n so on are loosing the touch of reality. but i still believe that mighty India is the Best Team 'n Dhoni is the best skipper even though " India got watsoned " . Did I say "Watsoned" ?????? Btw India lost not due to their bad captaincy or "hit me for six" bowling, but 7 MINUTES RAIN..!!!! I wonder what they gonna get today...AKMALED OR HAFEEZED ??? Ppeace out...

  • on September 30, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    @ Narbavi - Sri Lanka is 2nd in T20 Rankings, u speaking from mouth or ?

  • MichaelBurton on September 30, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    AUS, PAK, SL and WI deserve to be in the semis. Either AUS and PAK or PAK and SL would be in the finals. 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th places should go to SA, WI, IND and NZ respectively.

  • on September 30, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    Just when the Windies take one step forward, they take two steps backwards. Why they changed the team that beat England is beyond me. I thought that Badree bowled well and the return of Edwards just made the ball disappear to the boundry quicker. The glorified hitters were exposed to mystery-spin and couldn't read the length or the pace. It was only the better techniques of Samuels and Dwayne Bravo that were able to negate the tight, Sri-Lankan bowling, but not enough overs for a decent target to bowl at. And the WI bowlers are not disciplined or accurate enough to deal with quality players like Dilshan, Jaywardene and Sangakkara. The West Indies strength is their batting and need to put the opposition in, so they can back themselves to chase a target. They got lucky against England because they lost two wickets in the first over and even then England nearly got to the total. The Windies have got to play both Narine and Badree for the remainder of the tournament!

  • Sinhabahu on September 30, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    @Narbavi, so what kind of team gets whitewashed in two consecutive Test series? What kind of team blames the pitch or the rain whenever they get hammered? Can't be a bunch of useless MINNOWS, could it? :D

  • on September 30, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Bring BJ watling in.. he is a really good player.. than kane willamson in T20s... Bj waltling , Rob Nicol , Martin Guptill , Brendon McCullum , Ross Taylor , James Franklin , Jacob Oram , Daniel Vettori , Nathan McCullum , Tim Southee , Kyle Mills.

    THis team can beat any team if they play to thier potential..

  • ChamJK on September 30, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    minows who loose the match in 15th over??(Ind vs Aus)??

  • yorkslanka on September 30, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    @narbavi- nice to see you back on here again after your holiday following getting walloped by Aus...suppose you will have another break tomorrow after tonights result but look forwad to seeing you comment on monday again after our match..lol...

  • Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on September 30, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    Well said Narbavi.. Minows do surprise every now and than. Feel bad for NZ, Tough Luck!

  • Narbavi on September 30, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    I feel sorry for you guys, i mean we all know you both are better than lanka, but as we all know, minnows can shock you in this format at times and that's what happened to you guys!!

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  • Narbavi on September 30, 2012, 11:38 GMT

    I feel sorry for you guys, i mean we all know you both are better than lanka, but as we all know, minnows can shock you in this format at times and that's what happened to you guys!!

  • Eat_Sleep_Play_Cricket on September 30, 2012, 11:50 GMT

    Well said Narbavi.. Minows do surprise every now and than. Feel bad for NZ, Tough Luck!

  • yorkslanka on September 30, 2012, 11:58 GMT

    @narbavi- nice to see you back on here again after your holiday following getting walloped by Aus...suppose you will have another break tomorrow after tonights result but look forwad to seeing you comment on monday again after our match..lol...

  • ChamJK on September 30, 2012, 12:04 GMT

    minows who loose the match in 15th over??(Ind vs Aus)??

  • on September 30, 2012, 12:19 GMT

    Bring BJ watling in.. he is a really good player.. than kane willamson in T20s... Bj waltling , Rob Nicol , Martin Guptill , Brendon McCullum , Ross Taylor , James Franklin , Jacob Oram , Daniel Vettori , Nathan McCullum , Tim Southee , Kyle Mills.

    THis team can beat any team if they play to thier potential..

  • Sinhabahu on September 30, 2012, 12:28 GMT

    @Narbavi, so what kind of team gets whitewashed in two consecutive Test series? What kind of team blames the pitch or the rain whenever they get hammered? Can't be a bunch of useless MINNOWS, could it? :D

  • on September 30, 2012, 12:30 GMT

    Just when the Windies take one step forward, they take two steps backwards. Why they changed the team that beat England is beyond me. I thought that Badree bowled well and the return of Edwards just made the ball disappear to the boundry quicker. The glorified hitters were exposed to mystery-spin and couldn't read the length or the pace. It was only the better techniques of Samuels and Dwayne Bravo that were able to negate the tight, Sri-Lankan bowling, but not enough overs for a decent target to bowl at. And the WI bowlers are not disciplined or accurate enough to deal with quality players like Dilshan, Jaywardene and Sangakkara. The West Indies strength is their batting and need to put the opposition in, so they can back themselves to chase a target. They got lucky against England because they lost two wickets in the first over and even then England nearly got to the total. The Windies have got to play both Narine and Badree for the remainder of the tournament!

  • MichaelBurton on September 30, 2012, 12:33 GMT

    AUS, PAK, SL and WI deserve to be in the semis. Either AUS and PAK or PAK and SL would be in the finals. 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th places should go to SA, WI, IND and NZ respectively.

  • on September 30, 2012, 12:45 GMT

    @ Narbavi - Sri Lanka is 2nd in T20 Rankings, u speaking from mouth or ?

  • Late-Cut on September 30, 2012, 12:48 GMT

    huh haa...this keeps getting better day 'n day. Its sad to see that Narbavi, Eat_sleep_play, sobersfan 'n so on are loosing the touch of reality. but i still believe that mighty India is the Best Team 'n Dhoni is the best skipper even though " India got watsoned " . Did I say "Watsoned" ?????? Btw India lost not due to their bad captaincy or "hit me for six" bowling, but 7 MINUTES RAIN..!!!! I wonder what they gonna get today...AKMALED OR HAFEEZED ??? Ppeace out...