World Twenty20 2012 October 5, 2012

Former players criticise Pakistan's exit

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Pakistan's exit from the World Twenty20 has drawn criticism from several former players. Having restricted Sri Lanka to 139 in the semi-final in Colombo, Pakistan were beaten by 16 runs. The team has qualified for the semi-finals in each of the four World T20s so far, winning the title in 2009 and going down to India in the final in 2007.

The inconsistency of Shahid Afridi and Imran Nazir prompted former fast bowler Aaqib Javed, who has also been Pakistan's bowling coach, to question their place in the side. Former captain Zaheer Abbas and legspinner Abdul Qadir were surprised at the decision to exclude allrounder Abdul Razzaq from the playing XI in the semi-final.

"I don't know why these players don't show the sportsmanship and walk away themselves as he should have gone after Mohali semi-final [in the 2011 World Cup] against India"," Aaqib said about Afridi. "He had scored fastest hundred 16 years back, it's the past and it has nothing to do with the present. I don't understand why Imran Nazir is still there despite previous several unsuccessful comebacks and this is yet another one."

"It's been 12 years that Imran has been playing around the national team and he's yet to settle. In a player's career, a one-time sacking is enough [for one] to realise but as many as nine comeback [in his case] are still not enough to learn a lesson," Aaqib added.

Former fast bowler Sikander Bakht echoed similar views about Afridi and called for dropping other senior players in the side as well. "Its time for a change and drop Imran, Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, and ensure they don't come back again."

Razzaq was selected in the squad after a gap of nine months, but he played just one game in the World T20 this year, scoring 22 off 17 balls in the Super Eights win over Australia.

"I don't think Abdul Razzaq has been treated fairly and given the respect he deserves as a senior player with many match-winning performances to his credit," Qadir said. "There was no way you could go in to the semi-final without Razzaq after the way he performed against Australia. Unfortunately the truth is he has never been treated properly by the team management and we paid the price today."

Abbas said the captain Mohammad Hafeez had made some poor decisions, leaving out Razzaq being one of them along with not trying Kamran Akmal as opener. "The batsmen didn't play according to the situation and pitch conditions. I thought 140 was gettable in the match but the execution was missing, and Hafeez got out at a very crucial time. He should have finished off the game."

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  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    Also, how could one blame Shoaib Malik, Abdul Razzaq and Kamran Akmal? Malik was sent to bat at number six in most of the games, when we all know he deserve a better number, may be four, to settle down. Razzaq was treated as a passenger on the tour with only a game to his name, where he performed to satisfaction. Kamran Akmal too was mishandled. Hafeez and Imran never deserved to open the proceedings for Pakistan in a T20 format. Everyone understands how crucial is the left-hand-right-hand combination in any format and how your best batters should face the most number of balls, so clearly, Nasir Jamshed and Kamran should have opened the innings, followed by Umar Akmal at one drop and Malik at four, Hafeez at five, Razzaq six and Afridi seven. Everything was messed up by Imran and Hafeez. No doubt, Hafeez bowls well in the limited format but questions remain over his ability to open the innings for Pakistan in T20 version! How could Imran Nazir play despite his repeated failures???????

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    Also, how could one blame Shoaib Malik, Abdul Razzaq and Kamran Akmal? Malik was sent to bat at number six in most of the games, when we all know he deserve a better number, may be four, to settle down. Razzaq was treated as a passenger on the tour with only a game to his name, where he performed to satisfaction. Kamran Akmal too was mishandled. Hafeez and Imran never deserved to open the proceedings for Pakistan in a T20 format. Everyone understands how crucial is the left-hand-right-hand combination in any format and how your best batters should face the most number of balls, so clearly, Nasir Jamshed and Kamran should have opened the innings, followed by Umar Akmal at one drop and Malik at four, Hafeez at five, Razzaq six and Afridi seven. Everything was messed up by Imran and Hafeez. No doubt, Hafeez bowls well in the limited format but questions remain over his ability to open the innings for Pakistan in T20 version! How could Imran Nazir play despite his repeated failures???????

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:45 GMT

    The mighty Aussies while chasing a target of 150 against Pakistan could only score 117. The finalists Sri Lanka in pursuit of 138 scored only 101. Pakistan scored 124 while chasing a target of 140. Australia lost by 32 runs; Lanka by 36 and Pakistan only by 16. Pakistan did better than all of the chasing teams on such a dust bowl. The fact is that on a slow and turning wicket, chasing has been difficult for all. Remember how Pakistan restricted South Africans to 133 and then chased the target, thanks largely to the late cameo by Umar Gul and sensible batting heroics of Umar Akmal. I fail to comprehend why should people be launching a scathing attack against a team which has qualified for the semis in all the ICC World T20 tourneys so far since 2007, and the team Pakistan also reached the semis of the WC 2011. This is such a fantastic performance. Can't people see the positive side of things? Is it always the lens of seeing the glass half-empty; and not half-full! Back the team now!!!!

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    The mighty Aussies while chasing a target of 150 against Pakistan could only score 117. The finalists Sri Lanka in pursuit of 138 scored only 101. Pakistan scored 124 while chasing a target of 140. Australia lost by 32 runs; Lanka by 36 and Pakistan only by 16. Pakistan did better than all of the chasing teams on such a dust bowl. The fact is that on a slow and turning wicket, chasing has been difficult for all. Remember how Pakistan restricted South Africans to 133 and then chased the target, thanks largely to the late cameo by Umar Gul and sensible batting heroics of Umar Akmal. I fail to comprehend why should people be launching a scathing attack against a team which has qualified for the semis in all the ICC World T20 tourneys so far since 2007, and the team Pakistan also reached the semis of the WC 2011. This is such a fantastic performance. Can't people see the positive side of things? Is it always the lens of seeing the glass half-empty; and not half-full! Back the team now!!!!

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | October 8, 2012, 18:19 GMT

    @ romirom :- I Agree. Regarding the wicket i agree with romirom. On this kind of wicket anything could have happened. Even Sri Lanka got stuck in the finals. And Most Importantly dont forget that Nasir Jamshed got a bad decision early on in his innings. Today we can only speculate how costly that Error of the Unpires have proved for Pakistan. Imran Nazir was the Second highest run getter for Pakistan. I dont think it is fair to cricticise him in this fashion. Also Afridi bowled & fielded well through out the tournament. The Person who did not bowl well through out the tournament is Umar Gul. And S.Malik did not bat through out the tournament. Also Kamran's wicket Keeping was sloppy and he did not bat either inspite of all the promotions he recieved in the battng order. I think only these 3 players need to be replaced. Get in Junaid Khan and other other younsters and start building for the 2015 World Cup.

  • POSTED BY RaadQ on | October 8, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    These are exactly the sentiments I was having before the match. Exclude these useless players from all formats: I. Nazir, K. Akmal, S. Tanvir, S. Malik, M. Sami. Hafeez should be demoted down the order, Jamshed should open. U. Akmal should be promoted and made wicket keeper in T20 until a suitable replacement is found. Afridi should only be allowed to play ODI based on his bowling/fielding. Razzaq should be given more chances, especially in T20, along with Hammad Azam. Even Arafat performed better than useless Malik. Adnan should be made first choice wicket keeper for Test and ODI.

  • POSTED BY on | October 8, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    the new pakistani team in batting order--- 1.shahid afridi, 2.hafeez, 3.nasir jamshed, 4.azher ali, 5.kamran akmal,6.umar akmal, 7.abdul razzak, 8.yasir arafat, 9.umar gul, 10.saeed ajmal and 11.raza hasan. ( the perfect team)

  • POSTED BY shinewindies on | October 8, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    I am an Indian and this message is to all those Pak fans who were celebrating India's exit, now what do you think was a good bargain, you lost the semis, your team went back home a day later than ours, after dust settles on this world cup no one would remember Pak reached semis, everyone would remember Pak got thrashed again by India in a world cup, eagerly wating for pak to tour India in winters, easily 3-0 in favour of India, and to Mr.Sameem7604 if you want pak to win any matches please get rid of afridi and imran nasir, have you not got bored seeing them flop consistently. Its bizzare for you still wanting them in the pak team.

  • POSTED BY on | October 8, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    There is pressure and itching created in pak dressing room in crunch matches so need to sot out it..........this time pak captain was itching material some time coach like waqar yunas........they start palying and thinking like kids in certain moments....sometime unnecassry smiles cost u..for example malingas smiles last night

  • POSTED BY mtalhas on | October 8, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    hypocrasy has been showcased..there was an uproar for imran nazir to be included and now there is uproar that he shud be removed and all his previous comebacks are being discussed. simlarly, over hype fans 'boom boomed' afridi so much that he was knocked out mentally. pls dont do this, it has harmed the team and we paid the price. another blunder which i think was to deprive misbah of captaincy. he was far better than hafeez. at least he was the rock in pakistan's middle order.

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:55 GMT

    Also, how could one blame Shoaib Malik, Abdul Razzaq and Kamran Akmal? Malik was sent to bat at number six in most of the games, when we all know he deserve a better number, may be four, to settle down. Razzaq was treated as a passenger on the tour with only a game to his name, where he performed to satisfaction. Kamran Akmal too was mishandled. Hafeez and Imran never deserved to open the proceedings for Pakistan in a T20 format. Everyone understands how crucial is the left-hand-right-hand combination in any format and how your best batters should face the most number of balls, so clearly, Nasir Jamshed and Kamran should have opened the innings, followed by Umar Akmal at one drop and Malik at four, Hafeez at five, Razzaq six and Afridi seven. Everything was messed up by Imran and Hafeez. No doubt, Hafeez bowls well in the limited format but questions remain over his ability to open the innings for Pakistan in T20 version! How could Imran Nazir play despite his repeated failures???????

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:54 GMT

    Also, how could one blame Shoaib Malik, Abdul Razzaq and Kamran Akmal? Malik was sent to bat at number six in most of the games, when we all know he deserve a better number, may be four, to settle down. Razzaq was treated as a passenger on the tour with only a game to his name, where he performed to satisfaction. Kamran Akmal too was mishandled. Hafeez and Imran never deserved to open the proceedings for Pakistan in a T20 format. Everyone understands how crucial is the left-hand-right-hand combination in any format and how your best batters should face the most number of balls, so clearly, Nasir Jamshed and Kamran should have opened the innings, followed by Umar Akmal at one drop and Malik at four, Hafeez at five, Razzaq six and Afridi seven. Everything was messed up by Imran and Hafeez. No doubt, Hafeez bowls well in the limited format but questions remain over his ability to open the innings for Pakistan in T20 version! How could Imran Nazir play despite his repeated failures???????

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:45 GMT

    The mighty Aussies while chasing a target of 150 against Pakistan could only score 117. The finalists Sri Lanka in pursuit of 138 scored only 101. Pakistan scored 124 while chasing a target of 140. Australia lost by 32 runs; Lanka by 36 and Pakistan only by 16. Pakistan did better than all of the chasing teams on such a dust bowl. The fact is that on a slow and turning wicket, chasing has been difficult for all. Remember how Pakistan restricted South Africans to 133 and then chased the target, thanks largely to the late cameo by Umar Gul and sensible batting heroics of Umar Akmal. I fail to comprehend why should people be launching a scathing attack against a team which has qualified for the semis in all the ICC World T20 tourneys so far since 2007, and the team Pakistan also reached the semis of the WC 2011. This is such a fantastic performance. Can't people see the positive side of things? Is it always the lens of seeing the glass half-empty; and not half-full! Back the team now!!!!

  • POSTED BY GowharGeelani on | October 8, 2012, 19:44 GMT

    The mighty Aussies while chasing a target of 150 against Pakistan could only score 117. The finalists Sri Lanka in pursuit of 138 scored only 101. Pakistan scored 124 while chasing a target of 140. Australia lost by 32 runs; Lanka by 36 and Pakistan only by 16. Pakistan did better than all of the chasing teams on such a dust bowl. The fact is that on a slow and turning wicket, chasing has been difficult for all. Remember how Pakistan restricted South Africans to 133 and then chased the target, thanks largely to the late cameo by Umar Gul and sensible batting heroics of Umar Akmal. I fail to comprehend why should people be launching a scathing attack against a team which has qualified for the semis in all the ICC World T20 tourneys so far since 2007, and the team Pakistan also reached the semis of the WC 2011. This is such a fantastic performance. Can't people see the positive side of things? Is it always the lens of seeing the glass half-empty; and not half-full! Back the team now!!!!

  • POSTED BY Sports4Youth on | October 8, 2012, 18:19 GMT

    @ romirom :- I Agree. Regarding the wicket i agree with romirom. On this kind of wicket anything could have happened. Even Sri Lanka got stuck in the finals. And Most Importantly dont forget that Nasir Jamshed got a bad decision early on in his innings. Today we can only speculate how costly that Error of the Unpires have proved for Pakistan. Imran Nazir was the Second highest run getter for Pakistan. I dont think it is fair to cricticise him in this fashion. Also Afridi bowled & fielded well through out the tournament. The Person who did not bowl well through out the tournament is Umar Gul. And S.Malik did not bat through out the tournament. Also Kamran's wicket Keeping was sloppy and he did not bat either inspite of all the promotions he recieved in the battng order. I think only these 3 players need to be replaced. Get in Junaid Khan and other other younsters and start building for the 2015 World Cup.

  • POSTED BY RaadQ on | October 8, 2012, 12:08 GMT

    These are exactly the sentiments I was having before the match. Exclude these useless players from all formats: I. Nazir, K. Akmal, S. Tanvir, S. Malik, M. Sami. Hafeez should be demoted down the order, Jamshed should open. U. Akmal should be promoted and made wicket keeper in T20 until a suitable replacement is found. Afridi should only be allowed to play ODI based on his bowling/fielding. Razzaq should be given more chances, especially in T20, along with Hammad Azam. Even Arafat performed better than useless Malik. Adnan should be made first choice wicket keeper for Test and ODI.

  • POSTED BY on | October 8, 2012, 11:36 GMT

    the new pakistani team in batting order--- 1.shahid afridi, 2.hafeez, 3.nasir jamshed, 4.azher ali, 5.kamran akmal,6.umar akmal, 7.abdul razzak, 8.yasir arafat, 9.umar gul, 10.saeed ajmal and 11.raza hasan. ( the perfect team)

  • POSTED BY shinewindies on | October 8, 2012, 10:55 GMT

    I am an Indian and this message is to all those Pak fans who were celebrating India's exit, now what do you think was a good bargain, you lost the semis, your team went back home a day later than ours, after dust settles on this world cup no one would remember Pak reached semis, everyone would remember Pak got thrashed again by India in a world cup, eagerly wating for pak to tour India in winters, easily 3-0 in favour of India, and to Mr.Sameem7604 if you want pak to win any matches please get rid of afridi and imran nasir, have you not got bored seeing them flop consistently. Its bizzare for you still wanting them in the pak team.

  • POSTED BY on | October 8, 2012, 5:51 GMT

    There is pressure and itching created in pak dressing room in crunch matches so need to sot out it..........this time pak captain was itching material some time coach like waqar yunas........they start palying and thinking like kids in certain moments....sometime unnecassry smiles cost u..for example malingas smiles last night

  • POSTED BY mtalhas on | October 8, 2012, 4:09 GMT

    hypocrasy has been showcased..there was an uproar for imran nazir to be included and now there is uproar that he shud be removed and all his previous comebacks are being discussed. simlarly, over hype fans 'boom boomed' afridi so much that he was knocked out mentally. pls dont do this, it has harmed the team and we paid the price. another blunder which i think was to deprive misbah of captaincy. he was far better than hafeez. at least he was the rock in pakistan's middle order.

  • POSTED BY on | October 8, 2012, 3:52 GMT

    afridi imran and kamran should walk away now its time for new players where is jumshaid ahmed left arm medium pacer raza hassan is a great find ajmal needs to train a young slow bowler for pakistan

  • POSTED BY on | October 8, 2012, 0:06 GMT

    Look roti kahney valey, everything is easy to state with hindsight and only a win by Pakistan would appease the nation & ex-players right now ! Now let's state the facts about the game please. Firstly it was a precious toss to win on a tricky - dare I say substandard pitch ? - which would def get harder on to bat on. This let's game the game down because it could be argued that it was not quite the fair contest it should be. Now Pakistan bowled well apart from the last over which spoiled the boiling performance, Gul bowled well in all his previous overs. Sohail Tanvir the replacement of Arafat bowled v well too. The score was definitely getable if top level decision making and cool heads could perform. They were going well until Nazir was unlucky with the top spinner. His shots were v good cricket shots and he was not slogging everything. But when one falls in Pak team usually the whole team is vulnerable -this fact stops Pakistan from being a top top and pro side !

  • POSTED BY ihaq1 on | October 7, 2012, 18:28 GMT

    i think like jayawardene the captain should accept responsibility and resign...the only batsman in teh 2020 side was nasir jamshed and probably to some extent mohd hafeez...umar akmal was a sorry sight as a 2020 player...one hasto keep kamran akmal as teh wicketkeeper batsman although number 4 might be too high for him as a batsman...imran nazir, afridi, shoaib malik, razzak shoud probably consider retirement...pakistan should bring in faster scoring batmen in teh middle order who can play around players like nasir jamshed...also there is no point in picking players who hardly get a match..there are good fast scoring opening batsmen who can play in the middle order...in 2020 just scoring 20...30 runs quickly should be the criterion... think there are some good legspinners ready to replace afridi and herath showed teh shortcomings in raza hasan even though he played well...umar guls last over and the lower than average performance of saeed ajmal were probably responsible for losing

  • POSTED BY PCB.Corruption on | October 7, 2012, 18:28 GMT

    Incorrectly throwing upcoming test players into t20 side destroying their techniques

    How can you Pakistan fans see Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq as t20 future! They are test players, and future of our test batting line up. These two must only play test and ODI cricket so that they techniques improve. If such players are introduced into slogging then it will have an impact on their game as they are still up and coming players. Umar Akmal is an example. He plays Test cricket as if he is play T20 cricket. He should have been guided properly, we cannot guide young players as we have no structure in place and the right people surrounding them. For example on regular basis its past players like Mr Aqib Javed they will not improve their game...to be continued.

  • POSTED BY romirom on | October 7, 2012, 16:20 GMT

    don't criticize these player. its a sort of wicket which lose game for pakistan. if they won the toss and elected to bad and made 130 plus score then they might won the game as in final srilanka are struggling to chase 137 in the bowling attack of west indies where is only one quality bowler i.e narine. pak played well in this tournament. best of luck for the future... give all palyer confident they will surely perform.

  • POSTED BY Sameem7604 on | October 7, 2012, 5:56 GMT

    i am a srilankan , and suptan team also so much, i just wanted to say some comments here pls try this, let Imran Nasir and Kamran akmal to open or Imran and Afridi to open then Hafeez then Umar Akmal then bring Jamshad, then Abdull Razak, Asad shafiq Azhar Ali then all fans atleast will watch mtch , even first 3 goes down stll paople sit to watch because of very strong middle oder , what is current situation once collapse front batsment then we feel pakistan finish

  • POSTED BY on | October 7, 2012, 5:08 GMT

    Aqib javaid should not criticize imran nazir .. because he performed in this tournament... he scored about 154 runs in this tournament with good consistency ... Aqib javaid showing his dislikeness to imran nazir... while imran nazir played very well in this touranament .. what about shoaib malik, kamran akmal, Shahid Afridi. these three's performance was very bad in this tournament.. they three should be get out of team,

  • POSTED BY Daniel_Cartwright on | October 7, 2012, 2:35 GMT

    so as i opened this article ready to read a whole bunch of reminiceful jealous comments of formers players, i ended up being surprised by a whole bunch of truth and sincere advice from them this time. ever so slowly but surely, pakistan cricket seems to be heading north...

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 22:25 GMT

    well said solid snake your point is valid you are right we should had gone for shafiq instead of afridi instead the chasing score would had been 170 instead of 140 also see that afridi contributes in bowling as well. his role is more of a bowling allrounder batting comes second more responsibility is on hafeez and shoaib malik

  • POSTED BY Syed_imran_abbas on | October 6, 2012, 20:18 GMT

    Why no body questions yasir Arfat's selection? and Shaoib malik? why was afridi not dropped? and if our batting was weak why we kept so many extra bowlers in side? 7 bowlers to bowl 20 overs? are you kidding? this is insane.. why wasnt batting stregnten? to me imran still did a fair job.. Kamran was given wrong number to bat on. he was never a middle order batsman.. was sami on holidays? reaching final is an achievement but losing like with not sorting similar problems again n again is not acceptable.

  • POSTED BY SalamNameste on | October 6, 2012, 19:18 GMT

    New pakistan team: Azhar Ali Ahmed Shehzad Nasir Jamshed Umar Amin Umar Akmal Asad Shafiq Sarfraz Ahmed(wicketkeeper) Umar Gul Raza Hassan Saeed Ajmal Junaid Khan

    Pick this team in the first odi against india and then pick the captain from it ....not pick captain and then pick team around him..... which Australia and England and South Africa never does......

  • POSTED BY dontlikecricket on | October 6, 2012, 19:05 GMT

    I know a lot of ex players did not like the performance, but with no proper middle order batsmen in team you cant accept a team to win crucial games. I agree that Afridi, Imran, Kamran and Shoaib should never play for Pak again. Abdul Razzaq still has cricket left in him and is much better batsman then above mentioned 4. He is being wasted considering he is a very decent all rounder. But thats may be the problem. When a team has too many so called allrounders then good players can get pushed aside. Hafeez should considering playing a little lower down the order in T20. Its about time Pak should promote Umar Akmal, however he still has a lot to learn before he can play test cricket.

  • POSTED BY SyedAbidHussain on | October 6, 2012, 18:09 GMT

    rajesh_singhSTM: You feel Pak made it to Semi-Final as a fluke ?? Pak has made it to Semi-Finals of previous 6 consecutive ICC tournaments, 2007 WT20- Finalists 2009 WT20- Winners 2009 ICC champions trophy- Semi-Finalists 2010 WT20 - Semi- Finalists 2011 WorldCup- Semi- Finalists 2012 WT20 - Semi- Finalists Only one player was common in all these tournaments, it was AFRIDI !!!!

  • POSTED BY fassid on | October 6, 2012, 17:52 GMT

    The performance of Hafeez as a player is far below ordinary and is definitely not T20 player. The players Pak cricket to get rid of :

    1. Hafeez - 2.Kamran Akmal 3. Imran Nazir 4.Sami 5.Yasser Arafat 6.ShoaiB Malik

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | October 6, 2012, 16:47 GMT

    If i was the captain,i would have gone with Asad Shafiq instead of Afridi eyes closed.Or If Nazir was not performing well,Why not giving a chance to Asad Shafiq and doing some change in batting order..Hafeez was not performing well.He should have given a chance to Kamran and Nasir to open.Hafeez coming out as a one down was a great idea..I completely agree with all Pak fans..Hafeez did not bother changing the batting order..Not once this whole Tournament.One should do atleast an experiment to test players.He disturbed the position of Nasir and Kamran..bringing out Omer akmal at the end makes no sense at all

  • POSTED BY Solid_Snake on | October 6, 2012, 13:38 GMT

    Imran Nazir lacks temperament.How many chances any one could get.He is playing in the main side even before 1999.He is a good player and able to turn any match upside down with his fearsome batting.But the point is that it seems like now he has got no interest at all for playing in Pak team.What he tries to do is Pull and hook every ball.I laughed so hard when he tried to hit Kulasekara while coming out of his crease.Could not hit though but then Hafeez asked Imran to remain cool.Nazir and Afridi both are so easy to trap.Even i know where to bowl them if i wanted their wicket.When it comes to Pro bowlers.well thats another story..

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 13:16 GMT

    People realy getting it wrong, its wasnt players who didnt perform it was the batting order which disturb everyone place.. when u have jamshed and kamran as a opner who can give u the best possbile start of the innings why hafeez bother to open with nazir is beyound me, hafeez didnt change the order for once if he could do that we would be arguing on exit..

  • POSTED BY Shouldas-Wouldas-Couldas on | October 6, 2012, 13:03 GMT

    There was some "DEAD-WOOD" in the team. THEY WERE TRYING TO "KEEP THEIR PLACE" in team only ! Instead of "Playing FOR Pakistan", they are PLAYING WITH Pakistan ! Hafeez did really well to carry the team to semis !

  • POSTED BY shazzar on | October 6, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    We only had 5 batsmen playing (can not count afridi and nazir with there batting style) and even then in wrong order with hafeez looking stressfull under pressure opening and akmal never got going against spin in the middle order. Should really have been 1. akmal 2. jamshed. 3. hafezz 4. Asad Shafiq 5. umer 6. malik. 7 afridi 8. razzaq 9. gul 10. ajmal 11. tanvir. It would have been much balanced, having 2 pace bowlers and 3 spinners and 6 batmens with 3 sloggers for the final overs. Yes not the best team with afridi, razzaq and malik at the end of there careers but then they were only had come into it for the last few overs for slogging., which is what you need in this format. The key was having a settled first 5 batsmen which we never had.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 12:39 GMT

    First of all , we must not criticise them this much , Yes we lost but in semi finals of a tournament where Austraila , South Africa , India , England , Newzealand , Bangladesh , have also gone out .......... and except of ausies going out with us , all have gone out before us ..... One thing to point out is team's combination .......... now the tornament is over and we must take some steps for future , First of all T 20 team should have more aggressive style , Opening with Shahid Afridi and Nasir Jamshed will be a better choice having Kamran Akmal at 3 Because afridi will lose his wicket in first six overs , but his quick 15-20 runs in about half balls will make score board veryy good , Umer Akmal and Asad Shafiq to follow and Razzaq to come at Six , Hafeez at seven and gul at eight , followed by Saeed Ajmal at 9 ...... As per last two places this should be in between Raza Hassan , Aizaz Cheema and Junaid Khan luking at the team and conditions , and players like hamd and owais on benc

  • POSTED BY cyberstudent on | October 6, 2012, 11:51 GMT

    We Pakistani are strange, they don't realize that Team Pakistan is bigger than any player, if Afridi is not performing he needs to be dropped, but people here are supporting him because of his past performances. Pathetic attitude form Pak Nation.

  • POSTED BY ALA1 on | October 6, 2012, 10:47 GMT

    Our team was not balanced and we had too many openers. We only need 2 or 3 changes in a team and want a genuine fast bowler. Our bowling is spin heavy and we will struggle in SA if we don't get a good fast bowler or two. Imran,Kamran,Nasir,Umar Akmal,Asad, Malik,Razzaq,Afridi,Gul,Ajmal,Raza or Wahab(or any other fast bowler of good standard) depending on the conditions

    Imran because he has a better t20 record than Hafeez,Ahmed Shahzad, Shahzaib Hassan and many others. Kamran has the highest score for Pakistan in T20's with 841 and plays good as an opener not at no 4 of stabilizing the innings.

  • POSTED BY ALA1 on | October 6, 2012, 10:30 GMT

    One of the main reason is Hafeez himself. He became flat as a captain when he felt pressure. He is scored 164 runs in this tournament, highest for Pakistan, with the strike rate of 97 only. I guess even Imran was better than him as he scored 153 at the strike rate of 150. Hafeez is not a T20 player and captain even.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 10:22 GMT

    What happened to Azhar Ali? He is a exceptional batsmen and is very consistent. Afridi should retire before he gets a bad reputation. Razzaq should have played that game and i believe if Pakistan batted first, they would have won that semi-final.

  • POSTED BY Hira1 on | October 6, 2012, 10:18 GMT

    Please get new blood in ..Razak is only spared because he was not playing in the semi final, he is a liability in the field, can't bowl and too slow in batting ...he wasted too many balls against australia, was unable to rotate strike, time to include hammad azam, junaid khan, asad shafiq and say good bye to shoaib malik, kamran akmal, yasir arafat, sami, sohail tanveer, razak and imran nazir

  • POSTED BY dotcom75 on | October 6, 2012, 10:05 GMT

    Pakistan need to change there batting order according to the pitch condition if they play 1innings if it's follow up they have send the batting order according the runs what they are following,also need the give the chance for reserve players not keep them in bench all the time giving one match n dropping them for 6matchs is it good for the player no,that's the Pakistan biggest mistake have good players who can play in 11 but always keeping them in the bench it's not good sign in the future when team start play with contribution from all players then no one can defeat Pakistan team ever,Afridi is send in opening that's good thing for Pakistan

  • POSTED BY ALA1 on | October 6, 2012, 10:04 GMT

    First of all Kamran Akmal is being wasted at no 4. He is a very good T20 opener. He is our highest run scorer in T20I. Hafeez is not a T20 opener. He has only good average and strike rate against zimbabwe and has never performed well with the bat consistently. Imran Nazir got starts but coud not carry on and i think pressure increased on him in several matches as Hafeez didnot do anything,not even rotated the strike. Of Afridi i will always say that he bowled well in the semi final but its just his batting that is not clicking, may be he needs a rest but he should not have batted at no 7, we missed Razzaq.

  • POSTED BY nursery_ender on | October 6, 2012, 10:03 GMT

    Amjad Dork:

    Zaheer Abbas not a good player? Abdul Qadir not a good player? You cannot be serious.

  • POSTED BY masoodali150 on | October 6, 2012, 9:57 GMT

    Agree with the seniors, "Its time for a change and drop Imran, Afridi, Kamran Akmal, Shoaib Malik, and ensure they don't come back again." further I will include Sohail Tanveer. Plz do take these decision as soon as possible for the betterment of our country cricket.

  • POSTED BY Stark62 on | October 6, 2012, 9:50 GMT

    The two selections that cost Pak dearly, were of Sami in place of Junaid and Nazir ahead of Shezhad!!

    Also, if Pak wanted to play Tanvir, then they should have replaced Malik because he was poor through out the tournament.

    Lastly, Haris Sohail would have been a wonderful pick but instead they chose a Test blocker in the form of Shafiq.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 9:45 GMT

    AFRIDI i love you i m proud to be a pakistani and afridi

  • POSTED BY aak17 on | October 6, 2012, 9:39 GMT

    Major major blunder by the team selectors in not selecting Razzaq and not dropping Afridi for the semi match. Now going forward Afridi, Malik, imran and kamran akmal must be dropped permanently. Succession planning must start now with rising stars from u19 team given extended run in the first team.

  • POSTED BY asi.ali on | October 6, 2012, 9:24 GMT

    Pakistan cricket needs CHANGE, well said by seniors. AFRIDI, MALIK should go (please dont come back). not chasing 139, I think rather we give chance to new blood - at least they can get some experience.

  • POSTED BY Nuur on | October 6, 2012, 9:23 GMT

    Afridi should reqtire. Just because he was good in 2009 doesnt justify his place in the team.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 8:47 GMT

    I Still believe that pakishtan is the best T20 side in the world. But pakistan needs to change few players and the batting order also. I dont think Hafeez is a great player and a great captain. Umar Akmal should bat at no.2 in all the format. He is a talented cricketer. Where is Yaser Hamid?. Also players Imran nasir should be more responsible. Misbah was the best to lead pakistan.

  • POSTED BY SamAsh07 on | October 6, 2012, 8:44 GMT

    God these ex-players are crying like Pakistan lost in a group stage. It was a semi final!!!

  • POSTED BY AmjadZork on | October 6, 2012, 8:39 GMT

    Abdul Qadi, Zaheer Abbas, Aaqib Javed & Sikander Bakht - They themselves were never good cricketers or any World record holders. They have no right to criticise someone !!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 8:29 GMT

    1. Nasser Jamsheed 2. Umar Akmal 3.Shahid Afridi ( as a pinch hitter) 4. Asad Shafiq 5.Mohammad Hafeez/Azhar Ali 6. Kamran Akmal 7. Abdul Razzak 8. Sohail Tanvir 9. Umar Gul 10. Saeed Ajmal 11. Hasan Raza. Three big hitters at the top of the innings followed by Asad Shafiq who can play the role of a lynchpin and Mohammad Hafeez can provide him support if wickets fall early. Then again, they are followed by big hitters like Kamran Akmal and Abdul Razzak who can hit cleanly toward the end of the innings. Kamran Akmal and Abdul Razzak are two best finishers in the game of cricket. Asad Shafiq can also come at #3 and Shahid Afridi at #4. If another specialist batsman is played, then Azhar Ali should be played at #3 and push the other batsmen one notch down the order. Pakistan should use U Akmal, Nasser, Azhar, and Afridi in the top order. Asad Shafiq is a must in the middle order, and he has already played some fine knocks with Azhar. Kamran and Razzak should play in low middle order.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 8:07 GMT

    Time to move ahead. The seniors were brought in to do well this world cup (and that was fair) but to continue with them till world cup 2015 is absurd. They had their run, they have played their years. Nazir, Arafat, Afridi, Kamran. Groom youngsters now! Time to give a run to top domestic performers. Not that Afridi and Kamran should step down now, but they must be ready to retire in the near future. We have LOADS of talent to Rock the world. They just need a quarter of the chances that Nazir, Sami or Farhat got. Want me to name some of the talent???

  • POSTED BY cricketizgood on | October 6, 2012, 7:59 GMT

    Abdul Razzak is a good all rounder and should have been included but someone compared him with Kallis which is a bit too much. Kallis has a different class. Only closest all rounder to him is Watson in current era. Afridi is a good bowler. He used to be a good batsman as well but it is because of Pakistani fans his batting is a mess. People gave him a name Afridi .... BOOM BOOM and so he just started to swing at everything and lost all his rhythm. Pakistan as always has a good bowling attack but its their batting which is not as it used to be.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 7:57 GMT

    I agree with Abdul Qadi, Zaheer Abbas. Not selecting Abdul Razzaq was a great mistake. That mistake`s result was Defeat.

  • POSTED BY smjr on | October 6, 2012, 7:51 GMT

    Pak selectors and coaches please look at following link:

    http://stats.espncricinfo.com/pakistan/content/records/284199.html

    It is about the best average for all time for all playing countries with qualification of minimum 50 innings of first class cricket (including Test matches) and attaining average of 50 plus. In this list there are two current young Pakistani batsman in Fawad Alam and Usman Salahuddin apart from Younus Khan and Misbah. Other Pakistani batsman figuring in the list are retired fromcricket like Hanif, Miandad, Inzamam, Zaheer. The great Don Bradman top the list. So please selectors and coaches and captain give regular chances to Fawad Alam and Usman Salahuddin in Test matches and ODI.

  • POSTED BY smjr on | October 6, 2012, 7:11 GMT

    I have seen lot of comments here that if you win you may loose,it did not matter. Thats fine, but what you can say about a team that surrender without any fight. Get one failure after another without improving and getting lessons. Players are not interested for raising their level rather trying same things which brought defeats against good quality sides. Yes if they try something new or extra and defeated then it did not matter much. Our fast bowler Umar gul only knows yorker he never tried or learn slow balls,slow bouncers, off cutter etc same is with Suhail Tanvir. In contrast Malinga and Kulasekra learn and apply these deliveries against Pakistan. We have lost quite a number of ODI and T-20 against good teams (i.e Australia,South Africa,Sri Lanka, England and India) for the last three years. If the selectors, coaches and captain and players do not change their attitude then we may loose to India in ODIs in December and also find difficuty against South Africa tour in Feb 2013

  • POSTED BY Sameem7604 on | October 6, 2012, 7:10 GMT

    Dear freinds i am totally agree , Afridi is not in firm with batting, but with bowling he is good , this serious he is the one break 2 times open partnership, but i too hate him so much beacause of his poor batting, when he is going to learn to bat again, we should sheck other team players also many players lose their form in this T20 tournemnt , so coacher seniour players pls advise this Afridi to bat or train again , he is very talent and experince guy who can understand and click easily

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 6:52 GMT

    These "Ex-cricketers" criticize for the sake of criticism only to get top positions in PCB and when they get it, they also make the same mistakes and other "Ex-Cricketers" take their place to criticize them. Vicious circle continues...

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 6:45 GMT

    I am no fan of Afridi but this guy was all praise when Pakistan won in 2009. He is still a good bowler. The fans who are bashing the team here are the ones who are always one step ahead in shouting for Imran Nazir to be in team just because the guy is unstoppable in Domestic but when it comes to a slightly better bowling attack, he falls like a walnut. A some one said previous comments that this "riding the bandwagon" needs to end. Anyway the real tester will be in South Africa. I would prefer a test series win in South Africa over winning World T20 any day.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 6:38 GMT

    Overall Performance was very good. Good Luck Team Pakistan

  • POSTED BY IMcricfan on | October 6, 2012, 6:28 GMT

    Unless Pakistan cricket comes up with 3 batsmen like Saeed Anwar, Inzamamul Haq ,Javed Minadad,Mohammed Yunus, Mohammed Yusuf in their top 5.Batsmen who do not swing from the hip nor give away their wicket cheaply, Pakistan cannot climb up the ladder.A win such as the won against SA may occur once in while but for that to happen consistently you need to have BATSMEN performing in the Top 5 PLUS they need to have 11 players while batting and 11 while fielding.As of now they have only 10 players while batting.Maybe they do not realize but the opposition does...Shahid Afridi is that missing batsman.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 5:37 GMT

    i agree with muhammad salman AFRIDI we respect n love you INSHALLAH u will come back strong PAKISTAN ZINDABAD

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 4:47 GMT

    Mr Hafiz I had told you before the super 8 matches had started in a similar blog not to play Imran against any of the top bowling sides especially against Aus and SA. I had also requested you to consider playing Razzaq up the order. You may now pay the price for this blunder and get prepared to lose your captaincy which was below average overall and downright mundane on many occasions.

  • POSTED BY chamil111 on | October 6, 2012, 4:23 GMT

    pakistan have to do lot of changes in their team. We didn't seen any game plan during whole series. If team want to go a long run then they have to make some crucial decisions according to game. In semi final rangana heraths inclusion is the turning point of that game. But pakistan fails to make a mark in semi by they didn't select most suitable team.

  • POSTED BY on | October 6, 2012, 2:13 GMT

    I dont agree with the seniors comments - i think they are being harsh towards hafeez - his capaticy was good and his decision to exclude razzaq made sense - whom would u exclude to include him - malik but razzaq cant field - afridi but then razzaq cant bowl well in such conditions - i think the team selections was perfect - we should accept that our batting is weak and we lost because of it changes are needed it can happen but not drastically. Afridi - in last four turbulent years he has been the best bowler and fielder in this format and in 50 and 20/20 format among the top four allrounders - we should still play him as a bowling all rounder

  • POSTED BY KiwiRocker- on | October 6, 2012, 1:40 GMT

    Pakistan's bets fast bowler in last year or so has been Junaid Khan so why was not he selected? Pakistan's best batsman has been Azhar Ali. Yes, he is not as glamorous as lets say Imran Nazir but that is a type of batsman Pakistan line up needs. Why was not he selected? Asad Shafiq played one warm match and he scored the highest. Razzaq played one match and he scored 22 off 17 balls that proved difference against Australia so why were they ignored? Shoib Malik and Imran Nazir are a proven failure and they need to go. Afridi has stayed in team because of his bowling but his bowling has ditched him so time to go. Kamran played a fine knock in warm up against India but failed when it mattered so he needs to go, although if he performs he can always make a come back. Gul and Sohail Tanvir needs to be put on notice. Unlike India,Pakistan has backup players and talent to replaced failed ones,Asad Shafiq,Azhar Ali, Hammad Azam, Sarfraz Ahmad and Fawad Alam are ready and available to replace!

  • POSTED BY i_amVIVA on | October 6, 2012, 0:00 GMT

    @F.Hashimi:: and you call my Bangla Tiger fans over-hyped!!! they (pak) beat us in this arena as well fair and square....

  • POSTED BY F.Hashimi on | October 5, 2012, 22:57 GMT

    Pakistani fans are what in America called "Bandwagon" fan. If the team does well then they all like it, if team fails then the witch-hunt begins. What a poor school of thoughts. I hope they grow up one day!

  • POSTED BY pintu01 on | October 5, 2012, 22:35 GMT

    Agree 100% with past players. Can there be some inspection/discuss about the selection of the final team? Who decided the team and why? It is a great mystery that Abdur Razzak has been always left out. Is it Hafeez's decision? It is time to say good bye to Kamran, Shoaib Malik(can somebody summarize his contribution to the whole tournament? - 0 ), Imran Nazir and Shahid Afridi.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 22:11 GMT

    The criticism by these so called veterans of Pakistan cricket is questionable. It is easy to comment in hindsight but them having experienced this, that commenting after the event just for sake of it and when firing everyone doesn't help is baffling to me. It was a good team that Pakistan went with. Yes, Abdul Razzaq missing out was unfortunate but anything apart from it were just executional errors which Pakistan team has been prone to ever since. There is nothing new in this and whatever suggested by them counts to nothing. I think they should just sit quietly and do whatever they are ought to in their retirement days for the cricket rather than throwing useless criticism at the current crop of players.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 22:10 GMT

    Until when are we Pakistani fans will appreciate one good innings of some player who hasn't performed in years? Last time I checked, International Cricket is paid job with certain responsibilities in return. When a person is selected among millions, he is expected to fulfill his obligation and not to make excuses after excuses not to mention having no remorse at failing the nation over and over. Afridi and Co have not just turned liability but now have turned laughing stock. They are, especially Afridi are more reasons for opposition team to celebrate rather then the team and nation they represent. There is no accountability in our country and I won't be surprised if all this circus called qualifying semi final will continue to go un-noticed. Until when are we going to avoid giving chances to potential greats and continue to say, there is no one better than Afridi? If Afridi was found, so was Saaed Anwer, Inzimam, Wassim Akram, Waqar, M. Amer and the list goes on but only if we.....

  • POSTED BY cricket_pak419 on | October 5, 2012, 21:20 GMT

    All the comments here are really stupid. Do you guys all think that afridi is still in form. He has nothing left in him he was good in the past and now his career has been finished. Stop waiting for him to perform

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 21:08 GMT

    Stop playing the blame game and enjoy the game of cricket. You know, you can't win all the time.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 20:19 GMT

    Look roti kahney valey, everything is easy to state with hindsight and only a win by Pakistan would appease the nation & ex-players right now ! Now let's state the facts about the game please. Firstly it was a precious toss to win on a tricky - dare I say substandard pitch ? - which would def get harder on to bat on. This let's game the game down because it could be argued that it was not quite the fair contest it should be. Now Pakistan bowled well apart from the last over which spoiled the boiling performance, Gul bowled well in all his previous overs. Sohail Tanvir the replacement of Arafat bowled v well too. The score was definitely getable if top level decision making and cool heads could perform. They were going well until Nazir was unlucky with the top spinner. His shots were v good cricket shots and he was not slogging everything. But when one falls in Pak team usually the whole team is vulnerable -this fact stops Pakistan from being a top top and pro side !

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 19:37 GMT

    I agree 1) Kamran Akmal 2) Imran Nazir 3) Shoaib Malik should go packing - they had their fair share. Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq & Sarfaraz (wc) should replace them. Professor has done good overall but still early days for him - he needs to learn more how to lead and specially how to cope with pressure. Afridi needs to work hard to get his form back - he struggled in this tournment. He has to do better than this to justify his place in the team. Overall our team has played well!!! Semi's exit I would put down to the poor team selection by the board and brilliant performance by Srilankans on the day......:(

  • POSTED BY 10Devils on | October 5, 2012, 19:35 GMT

    T20 is not the game for Akmal, Afridi, Malik and Nazir anymore. They are good for test maches and 1days. Pakistan has lot more talent. Youngsters should come forward. Seniors should have courage to walk out, so that new genration gets chance to rise and shine.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 19:20 GMT

    Afridi and Nazir need to go. Unfortunately so does Razzaq. Youngsters need to be groomed before the next world cup.

    OTher than those faliures...it was a good team and a good tournament for Pakistan. Sri Lanka were CLEARLY the better team...all day....

  • POSTED BY cheguramana on | October 5, 2012, 19:15 GMT

    Agree with Abdul Qadir on Abdul Razzaq. Cant understand why a player of his talent was not groomed and trained properly. To my mind, he had the potential to be a 'Kallis class' allrounder. Started his career around the same time too. A wasted talent, to Pakistans loss. At least, he shud hv been in playing XI for the Semi final. I am sure he wud hv made an impact.

  • POSTED BY ammar7may on | October 5, 2012, 19:03 GMT

    And now Australian one man show also finished. Not to criticize too much to Pakistan. The teams always have a person to have a one man show, rest are fillers. In this event Pakistan did not had that one man, as Imran and Afridi were both out of form. Umer Akmal was not tried for such position ever. Ajmal could not do that role, as he was only a bowler with 4 over quota, as other top bowlers of the event like Styne, Morkel, ZAK, Gul, Malinga. SL has 3 such players (Dilshan, Jayawardene, Sangakara), Austrailia has 3 (Warner, Watson, M Hussey), India had 1 (Kohli), SA also 1 (AB DeVillier), WI has 2 (Gayle & Samuel), Eng None (even then KP was excluded). The rest are 1 in 30 match performers (and all the teams do have them). The failure of Australian bowling led them to complete wash out as the 1 in 30 match performers of WI also switched good today, and Australians could never hit spinners @ 10-15 runs per over. Let's hope SL-WI is a historical World T20 final to watch on Sunday Eve.

  • POSTED BY architXI on | October 5, 2012, 18:37 GMT

    pakistan got what it deserved.. reached semi final with fluke.. none of the players in this pakistan side can bat more than 6-7 overs, let alone playing a test match.. these players have no caliber at all.. glad to see them exit..

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 18:34 GMT

    Shahid Afridi - he is that same looser who was the sole reason when Pakistan won the T20 World Cup 2009, he is that same looser that led a bunch of sheep & turned them into lions and single-handedly took them to semi-final in 2011 World Cup, he is that same looser who holds the most world records from Pakistan, most sixes in odi, most man of the matches, won most of the matches for pakistan, faste

    st century in both test & odi which is still intact btw after many many year, fastest spinner ever in cricket history, leading wicket takers in T20, one of the all time leading wicket takers in ODI, Only bowler who is a leg spin drifting master, he is that same looser who strikes fear in bowlers & almost ended their careers. According to ICC he is an Einstein of cricket, favorite of Lara, one of the greatest batsmen according to Tony Greig, Ganguly said: we used to do special training for bowlers if Afridi was playing and Yuvraj said: I hit 6 sixes but didn't even get as popular as Shahid

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 18:31 GMT

    This is not a way to treat your premium all-rounder...Afridi deserves the backing of the fans, management and players atm and the selectors need to give support to Razzaq as well. NO one can fill the vacancy if they are dropped. People say Hammad Azam is the replacement for Razzaq...but the reality is he's not...Razzaq was way better at 20 years of age and Afridi..well u can't find another like him.

  • POSTED BY ammar7may on | October 5, 2012, 18:12 GMT

    PCB needs to try more blood for preparations of next World Cup, and needs a blend of experience and talent. 3-4 regular openers (Jamshed only fulfills requirement. More consistent options should be hunted), 3-4 middle order batsmen who can bowl as well (1.Umer Akmal 2. Asad Shafique. 3. Azhar Ali. I don't know, why later two were not given a go during current tournament, might be due to inexperience), 3-4 fast bowling all rounder (Yasir and Abdul Razzaq are too old to continue. I don't suggest spin bowling all rounder like Shoaib Malik and Hafeez. They must compete as batsmen), 2-3 regular spinners (Already good pack with 1. Ajmal, 2) Abdul Rehman, 3. Raza Hasan ), 2-3 regular pacers are needed (1. Gul, 2. Junaid,). T20 should be captained by Umer Akmal (now well experienced), 1-Day by Hafeez (has shown good results with current team), and Tests by Misbah (He and Younis must decide a final time for retirement). Look for pacers management policy of Cricket Australia, it's been decent.

  • POSTED BY TheRealRockNRolla on | October 5, 2012, 18:08 GMT

    @aaqib javed - what is your contribution to this team ?? where is Wahab Riaz, where is Anwar Ali - you sound like a buffoon attacking Afridi, when he has literally revived Pakistan from the ashes of match-fixing controversy, took us to World Cup Semi Final 2011 single handedly and if it was not for your cronies, Misbah, Akmal bros. we would have played the final!! and you pass the notion that Afridi should have retired at the end of the World Cup...this is not about passing hot air! actually your opinion is just as good. Same goes for Zaheer abbas - good for nothing, cant even speak proper English...this is a semi final exit and we lost to a good team in SL. What we should rue is the fact that players like Ramiz and Akram have influence on the team selection, Whatmore is a puppet and Pakistan needs to get their fast bowling legacy back in a hurry - how can you expect Umer Gul to remain consistent when hafeeza bowls 18 overs of spin!!! this is what should be debated. not Afridi or Malik

  • POSTED BY shazzar on | October 5, 2012, 17:57 GMT

    The main problem was pakistan did not select a BALANCED team. Having safridi, then why was nazir selected, both were going to lose there wickets easily, the way they bat. PLaying kumran, then why was malik selected, both are average at best and tend to have too many dot balls if things do not go there way. surely razzaq with his better and cleaner striking of the ball for boundries would have been better. Why have raza when you already got 3 spinners , he was new and not a major wicker taker. surely an extra batsman would have been better against spin playing oppoents. why did hafeez open when he was shown to struggle under pressure against india, why did umer akmal bat behind kumran and malik when his a better batsmen. I can go on and on. NO its not about after hindsight is good, almost all of this was shown up against india, and playing simillar team like sri lanka they should have learnt from it. GET A BALANCED SIDE NEXT IME.

  • POSTED BY ammar7may on | October 5, 2012, 17:55 GMT

    Afridi was brave to decide to retire from the game few weeks earlier, but accepted to keep going on the demands of teammates, selectors and the nation. He still keeps the place due to been younger than Misbah, Hafeez, Abdur Rehman, Yunis, Abdul Razzaq and other players to compare with. What wrong he did than any other with bowling in this event??? Let him retire when he likes, and not to question him any more, as he never tried to open the innings as out of form opener like Hafeez. Yes, I do agree for young blood, but not totally revamp. Need 3-4 genuine batsmen in the slot with Jamshed, Umer, Asad and Azhar go for big run. Hamad Hasan now needs time to settle in spite of Abdul Razzaq or Yasir. Fast bowlers need a consistent run, as Gul has got old and reduced pace. I was surprised when saw the exclusion of Junaid Khan, as he was an automatic choice. Shoaib Malik should also stick to bigger formats, but he needs to comeback with bat, but not with ball.

  • POSTED BY crotisn on | October 5, 2012, 17:31 GMT

    I just surprised since pak squad announce how can a team win a tournament with 1st eight batsmen of which seven are regular openers. Secondly probably the main reason is hafeez he is not even t20 player and captain. He is top in amount of dot balls, he is copy of misbah ..Good teams need a solid openers in t20 not bowling all-rounder who can a bat on top.His strike rate is less than indian premier bowler R Ashwin. He just create pressure by dotting balls and other batsman get out in hurry to score quickly.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 17:27 GMT

    I think Pakistan missed an important change of Asad shafique. I guess he would have been a better option than either Imran Nazir or Shoaib malik.

  • POSTED BY AsviduS on | October 5, 2012, 17:25 GMT

    Rubbish , all except leaving Raz out !! They have missed just in the SF folks, simply cos SL bettered them in the given conditions, why this all the fuss!!

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | October 5, 2012, 17:24 GMT

    BUT IQBAL QASIM would not change this old horse strategy. We need a new selector who believes in new talent. Let Afridi play some tennis ball cricket in his old age where he can try blowing sixes every ball. He could have learned from Imran who settled to a decent batsman with the time but Afridi only played as boom boom, I mean to be the one who hits sixes and rules peoples hearts, not for the team. So what happened, he lost it all. He always succeeded when he tried to play with senses but the pathan's head is closed.

  • POSTED BY Zahidsaltin on | October 5, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    TIME for Afridi to retire as he can not be selected purely as a bowler. Any one like Raza Hassan or Rehman would be a better choice selecting a bowler. Every one knows that he is very much capable of playing a good innings after every 30 matches but that should not be enough. In the past our players have been doing that. They played a good hand every 25th or 30th innings and hanged on. AFRIDI, SHOAIB MALIK, MOHAMMAD SAMI, FAISAL IQBAL, SOHAIL TANVERR, IMRAN NAZIR, IMRAN FARHAT and many more who have been hanging around for years should be discarded now. Young player like Azhar Ali, Asad Shafiq, Raza Hassan, Nasir Jamshid and Umar Akmal should be groomed together with new inclusions like Usman Sallahuddin, Naved Yasin, Fawad Alam , Zia-ul Haq and Mohammad Talha

  • POSTED BY Saim93 on | October 5, 2012, 17:18 GMT

    Akmal, Afridi and even Malik deserve chances but Nazir is good for nothing

  • POSTED BY SalmanShakeel on | October 5, 2012, 16:59 GMT

    Simple things..

    Time to say bye bye to following players: Shoaib Malik Imran Nazir Kamran Akmal

    Afridi is going through a bad patch but I am sure he will get back.

    Pakistan's batting needs a massive revamp Include Azhar Ali and Asad Shafiq , Both are young stars! Make Nasir Jamshed permanent opener

    My team post T20 WC

    Hafeez Nasir Asad Shafiq Umar Akmal Azhar Ali Wicket keeper(Pak needs to find one soon.K.Akmal is a rubbish) Afridi Raza Hassan Umer Gul Saeed Ajmal Junaid Khan

  • POSTED BY Leghari_A on | October 5, 2012, 16:45 GMT

    dear all, i do agree with most comments here. yes afridi needs to call it quits. i dont agree with wholesale changes so u cant drop the entire team but yes nazir is a flat track bully and wht he hasnt learned in last 12 years, he is not going to learn now. ahmad shahzad was always a better option. we have 170 million ppl and nobody who is a better keeper batsman than akmal family??? comeon??? hafeez panicked everytime batting in tough situations. wht happened to our quicks. we used to be envy of the world. but where have they all gone. wht is happening in this country. finally best of luck to windies for final.

  • POSTED BY shazzar on | October 5, 2012, 16:44 GMT

    Its all about who gets on well with who. We all knew nazir and afrdi only know one way to bat. we knew kumran akmal is dreadful especially wicket keeping. We know smalik is average at best. They get dropped but appear to get brought back. WHY? The selectors have to seriously account for this and asked was razzaq dropped becausese they still bear grudges for there arguments with him rectently over him playing in the bangladesh league. If thats the case why have him in the team at all. Players are either good or not good for pakistan at this time, do not make the excuse they simply are out of form. HAs nazir, akmal and malik ever been in form. Yes they may have a good came here or there but thats not form.

  • POSTED BY SyedAbidHussain on | October 5, 2012, 16:35 GMT

    Just 6 months of failure and you forgot he was the most consistent player for Pak in the past 4 years !!!! Give some time to Afridi guys. Pak did not have problem with Malik, he has been failing for 3 years now and dont speak of AbdurRazzaq as if he has done wonders in the recent past. His contributions stand nowhere in comparison to Afridi's, but AbdurRazzaq is still in the squad.

  • POSTED BY ninjalord on | October 5, 2012, 16:22 GMT

    Pakistani officials and former players have such a poor attitude to bad results. There is such a poor culture of crucifying Pakistani players that dont perform in the later stages of tournaments. This is something we have seen again and again and it is by far the worst in Pakistani cricket. Where were the comments before the match was played, never any foresight, just very harsh criticism after the fact. I often feel sorry for Pakistani players because unless they win a tournament they are completely stripped bare by the officials. They are never praised for making the semis of a tournament only crucified for not winning it or not winning the title. The mammoth effort of making the semi is always lost in the mix as finger pointing and blaming of the highest order ensues. Even if they perform fantastically leading up to a loss. Its so disappointing to see. Give the Pakistani players a beak officials / former players.

  • POSTED BY anuprakir on | October 5, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Main reason for pakistan's loss is failure of their senior batsmen,they wasted their bowler's hardwork.It is clear that players lik shoaib Mallik,shahid Afridi and Kamran Akmal have past their prime

  • POSTED BY rajesh_singhSTM on | October 5, 2012, 16:11 GMT

    Pakistan was lucky to even reach semis. A once in lifetime fluke innings by Gul and a standard choke by SA were main factors Pakistan survived super 8s,or by end of India game, the flight tickets would have been ready.But luck postponed the tickets till SF.Anyway luck can take one only so far. Also the fact that SL made a pitch suited to SL team rather than a track suited to Pakistan ensured the exit was certain. SL knew exactly what score was enough on the pitch and the way Dilshan , Mahela batted it was obvious they did not want big shots becos they knew 130 was as good as 165 on that track.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 14:40 GMT

    When you have Three captains in playing Eleven........... a wicket Keeper with a record of drop catches and miss stumping!!!!! An opener who performed only against Bangladesh in his career................ Two players who were suspended for no reasons and again in the squad..........

    you got the True Results :)

  • POSTED BY Umar_Hashim on | October 5, 2012, 14:24 GMT

    Sad Part is the comments about how much somebody play and they cannot criticize. Its fine if somebody is presenting there opinion they have the right to do so but make it an reasonable assumption. I have seen people criticizing Umer Akmal but what can that guy do coming in at 6 or 7. He averaged 62 and faced only 100 balls through out the tournament. According to ICC Rankings he is the highest placed Batsman for Pakistan in both t20 and ODI. That means he is your best batsman so he should be batting higher up the order... 5 innings he batted 3 of them were not outs coming to bat after 15th over or running out of partners

  • POSTED BY a.syed81 on | October 5, 2012, 14:17 GMT

    For all of those who are complaining about Afridi's batting number did you already forgot what he did against India when he came at No 3. You people can't be serious. Open your eyes and come out of this AFRIDI shell. He is extremely overrated cricketer. Afridi, Malik and Kamran need to go for Good. Pak need to bring attacking and solid players like Asad Shafiq, Ahmed Shahzad and even Azhar Ali performed well by holding one end of the innings in ODI. All these old horses need to go away for sake of Pak Cricket.

  • POSTED BY ABKhanISB on | October 5, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    The only person needed to be sacked is the selector who is selecting Shoaib Malik again and again even after his miserable performance in all the formats of the game. I think he has some closed relatives like Fawad Alam in the team

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 14:01 GMT

    Journey is over for TEAM PAKISTAN in T20I WORLD CUP 2012. The selectors were right to pick experienced players in the squad but now its time to say thank you to them and goodbye. This includes Nazir, Malik, Afridi, Razzaq, Sami and Tanvir and Kamran if you can find a better replacement as wicket keeper / batsman. TEAM PAKISTAN must now build team for the future and identify new young talent. My T20I team would be: 1. Shehzad, 2. Shazaib or other, 3. Jamshed, 4. Umar, 5. Hafeez, 6. Kamran, 7. Hammad Azam, 8. new talent, 9. Gul, 10. Ajmal / Raza, 11. Junaid. For ODI my team would be: 1. Shehzad, 2. Jamshed, 3. Azhar, 4. Umar, 5. Hafeez, 6. Shafiq?, 7. Kamran, 8. Hammad Azam, 9. Gul, 10. Junaid, 11. Ajmal / Raza. GOOD LUCK to Sri Lanka in the FINAL on Sunday.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 13:43 GMT

    Why was Razzaq dropped? Poor fella has been seriously under utilised.

  • POSTED BY CricketMaan on | October 5, 2012, 13:31 GMT

    Here we go, the circus of blame and criticisms ARSIE yet again, in the last 2-3 days first it was Indian fans, media and couch critics who went gagaga..though some very indeed true and valuable suggestions, now its Pak's turn and usual couch critics have started again though some true and valuable suggestions. Point is neither of these TWO countries will do anything credible to change this situation. Come December both are scheduled to play a T20 in India and I won't be surprised to see a similar if not same set of players..I wish the likes of Shafiq, Fawad gets a go and the U19 Pak captain is introduced..similarly a young T20 squad with Kholi at helm is tried out..will be refreshing to see both Pak and Ind field a young brigade and try out new faces..else such articles will keep mushrooming without any effect.

  • POSTED BY ObjectiveCricketism on | October 5, 2012, 13:29 GMT

    Pakistani selections are always strange. It is time to reflect and change. Pakistan could and should have won this match. Had they done so, they would have been huge favourites for the final. What a pity!

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 13:26 GMT

    Hi All. Same old story is being repeated. yesterday loss was a big loss to Talented but immature Pakistani team, as in now a days no team will give up the game how Pakistan gave up, really.I don't know what Afridi, Kamran,Malik Yasir Imran Nazir are doing in the Pakistani team. and the worst was every body witnessed in the past that Razzaq is the savior of Pakistani team in these type of situations and he was not in the last eleven yesterday.I am an Indian and not a supporter of Pakistan team but definitely a heavy fan of Pakistani cricket talented player like Razzaq, Waqar, Wasim Nasir Jamshed,and a lot. I can say one thing that they have to obtain maturity apart form that they have every talent and until unless they will not get maturity this type of situation will repeat time and again.

  • POSTED BY mrhamilton on | October 5, 2012, 13:23 GMT

    As a neutral observer to me dropping Razzaq was MADNESS. I predicted it. Pakistan has some very hysterical supporters and selectors. For the life of me I cannot fathom why non performers like nazir,farhat,shoaib malik constantly get picked and controversial figures like K akmal have no place in the side ever again. Umer akmal continues to show he never performs when it really really matters for his country but pak need him and afridi still....just dont rely on them to ever perform when it really matters for that u need a new breed in.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 13:14 GMT

    more stats:

    WC STATS Afridi Vs Aqib

    Aqib Mat=15, WK=18, AVG =28.72, Afrdi Mat = 20, WK =28, AVG = 19.60.

    Some great person once said, number dont lie, neither should you Mr. Aqib

  • POSTED BY Jaysz on | October 5, 2012, 13:12 GMT

    Give Mahela credit for playing brilliantly on a difficult pitch, rather than criticizing batsmen who are nowhere near the class of Mahela or Sangakara. This was the pitch where even Dilshan could only manage a strike rate of 81%.

    And its strange people want the "old" players (Malik, Imran, Afridi) out, whereas the same ones wanted even older guy (Razzaq) to play.

    Pakistani team deserves some praise for making it to semi's ahead of India and South Africa.

  • POSTED BY Hafiz al raji on | October 5, 2012, 12:57 GMT

    Good News for Pakistani fans:

    If West Indies and Australia both loses today then Pakistan will qualify for the Finals on the basis of better NRR.

    ☺☻☺☻

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:56 GMT

    I dont know what shoaib malik does for the team and who is behind his continued inclusion in the team for doing nothing except creating unrest in the team.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:54 GMT

    None of these former cricketer has any cricketing knowledge.... when Imran Kamran Malik were selecting they were praising in fact asking their inclusion in a team and all of a sudden they are no longer fit.... One thing everyone is missing and Wasim Akram rightly pointed out that this pitch want up to standards of T20 Semi Final... he criticised and qs. that unfair home advantage was taken here... half of the match decision was determine at the toss.... knowing Pakistan... these players aren't going anywhere ... the may be drop for a series and come back again... unless some of them realised and grace fully retire...

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:53 GMT

    one more thing:

    STATS REVIEW

    Aqib Javed age 40 matches 163 wickets 182, 5wi 4 runs made 267 (ENTIRE CAREER). Shahid Afridi age 32 matches 348 wickets 349, 5wi 8, runs made 7075 (career Best 124, 6 hundreds, 33 50)

    not that much age difference, beside these stats dont do justice to afridi, as he only because a bowling allrounder 5 year or so ago.

    So Please Aqib, Once you have played for that long and win that many matches as afridi has than make a comment, otherwise please dont.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:47 GMT

    Its ridiculous that Hafeez didn't go for Razzaq. He is a proven match winner- a handful with the ball and a good striker of the cricket ball. But Hafeez just wants to stuff his arsenal with spinners it seems. It would have made some sense to go with Razzaq instead of Shoaib Malik who had been performing only in patches.

  • POSTED BY voyager on | October 5, 2012, 12:41 GMT

    Common fan who have never played at any level criticzing the team after the loss is one thing. But former players who themselves have faced these pressures and were sometime victim of unfair and harsh criticism during there playing days saying these things is unfortunate. Some comments about Imran Nazir are accurate some against Afridi and Hafeez's decisions are unfortunate. You got to give some executive prevelige to the captain of making decisions as he deemed fit. Razzak's decision is difficult one but we should also see that Sohail Tanvir bowled a good spell. Afridi is failure in batting and lately his form is dropping in bowling but still he bowling well enough to have his place as a bowler alone. Zaheer Abbass himself was famous for getting out first most of the times in pressure situations.....

  • POSTED BY Ali-Abid on | October 5, 2012, 12:23 GMT

    I don't think team did something wrong a game is a game and one has to win. One thing that i really wanna complain is the pitch :) honestly it was not a Semi Final game pitch and if you don't agree with me then count the number of sixes from both sides and then look at the number of sixes in the round matches.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:22 GMT

    Very silly of Javed to be criticising Afridi and Nazir for trying to make a comeback. Aren't the selectors (and/or coaches) who are responsible for picking the team, which should obviously be based on recent form? Sour grapes anyone?

  • POSTED BY veeezel on | October 5, 2012, 12:21 GMT

    I don't know where to start hugely disapointed by pakistan in this 20/20/cup some may disagree and would call this pakistan s major acheivement to qualify for the sami's but i tell you some hard hitting truth about our team selection first take mohd sami selection and leavin much better bowlers like junaid & wahab and i can name few youngsters as well behind then we persisted to play imran nazir and left youngsters like ahmed shazad & jahanzab who helped us in last 20/20 cup and asad shafique never found a place in starting xi now talk about yaser arfat who played as a spesialist bowler & never bowled his 4overs quota in any given game we have good young all rounder hamad azzam but we took razaak who is great player but again we waisted a huge talet to warm up the bench very seriouse crime shoaib malik & afridi are playing in the team either by their name or someone very powerfull is behind their selection umar akmal still hasn't got the bating no where he is comfortable

  • POSTED BY TORONTO123456 on | October 5, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    First of all Pakitan should DROP Afridi and make sure he will never come back to the side the very 1 st ball he got faced bowled him out and he think he is the KING of Pakistani Cricket without him they well do well for sure .

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    Agree with Abassand Afridi should have batted up higher

  • POSTED BY Danish10290 on | October 5, 2012, 12:17 GMT

    Win or lose is part of game.. but that's win was not just win.. it was bigger than win for PAKISTANIs peoples.. but unfortunatly pak team did not gave us chance to celebrate the title of t20 w.cup.. any one i still hope pakistan will do better thing in future IN SHAA ALLAH .. I still love PAKISTANI team .. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD..

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | October 5, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    Pakistan needs to drop of Afridi, just like India needs to drop Tendulkar and Sehwag. They are playing based on our emotions, not on their performance. At least Afridi contributes with his bowling.

  • POSTED BY Happy_AusBang on | October 5, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    It is easy to talk in hindsight but you have to wonder what more could Razzak have done to merit selection. In the only chance he got, he scored 22 off 17 balls without any time to settle down. Compared with that Afridi has hardly anything to show in batting or bowling in all the innings he played. Surely, Razzak deserved a go this time at the expense of Afridi. I don't think they could have dropped Malik because he does save a lot of runs and holds catches. In this format you can't underestimate the value of fielding. There was no other alternative to replace him.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    I don't think so Razzaq would make any difference. His overall record against Srilankan type of bowling was poor. Afridi was not the main culprit for batting failure. A whole top order is poor except Hafiz and Jamshed. This is the best batting talent selected as far as T20 is concerned....

  • POSTED BY wrenx on | October 5, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Very fair comments especially re Razzaq's poor treatment, one of the best servants of Pakistan cricket there has been. And any team with Calamity Kamran doesn't deserve to be in the final. Best of luck to Sri Lanka in the final, I don't think anyone wants them to face the trauma of another loss in a tournament final

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    Not only in this T20,Pak always has the problem with their batting order with the senior persons like afridi,imran & sohib,only the bowler always used to win the games for them. Some serious decisions has to be taken from PCB to organize a good team. But the world knows PAK team is always like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 11:52 GMT

    I also thought they made a huge mistake leaving out Razzaq on that pitch.

  • POSTED BY KunzMan on | October 5, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Pakistan problems are going to lingera forevera. You should learn from us Sri Lankans as to how to gracefully play the gentleman game of Cricket and become legends and retire. Pakistan talent either keeps making come backs or engages in fixing or in doping. Learn from us. We are the Lankan lions and we always ROAR...... MEOW!!!

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  • POSTED BY KunzMan on | October 5, 2012, 11:46 GMT

    Pakistan problems are going to lingera forevera. You should learn from us Sri Lankans as to how to gracefully play the gentleman game of Cricket and become legends and retire. Pakistan talent either keeps making come backs or engages in fixing or in doping. Learn from us. We are the Lankan lions and we always ROAR...... MEOW!!!

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 11:52 GMT

    I also thought they made a huge mistake leaving out Razzaq on that pitch.

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 11:56 GMT

    Not only in this T20,Pak always has the problem with their batting order with the senior persons like afridi,imran & sohib,only the bowler always used to win the games for them. Some serious decisions has to be taken from PCB to organize a good team. But the world knows PAK team is always like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • POSTED BY wrenx on | October 5, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Very fair comments especially re Razzaq's poor treatment, one of the best servants of Pakistan cricket there has been. And any team with Calamity Kamran doesn't deserve to be in the final. Best of luck to Sri Lanka in the final, I don't think anyone wants them to face the trauma of another loss in a tournament final

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    I don't think so Razzaq would make any difference. His overall record against Srilankan type of bowling was poor. Afridi was not the main culprit for batting failure. A whole top order is poor except Hafiz and Jamshed. This is the best batting talent selected as far as T20 is concerned....

  • POSTED BY Happy_AusBang on | October 5, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    It is easy to talk in hindsight but you have to wonder what more could Razzak have done to merit selection. In the only chance he got, he scored 22 off 17 balls without any time to settle down. Compared with that Afridi has hardly anything to show in batting or bowling in all the innings he played. Surely, Razzak deserved a go this time at the expense of Afridi. I don't think they could have dropped Malik because he does save a lot of runs and holds catches. In this format you can't underestimate the value of fielding. There was no other alternative to replace him.

  • POSTED BY Al_Bundy1 on | October 5, 2012, 12:13 GMT

    Pakistan needs to drop of Afridi, just like India needs to drop Tendulkar and Sehwag. They are playing based on our emotions, not on their performance. At least Afridi contributes with his bowling.

  • POSTED BY Danish10290 on | October 5, 2012, 12:17 GMT

    Win or lose is part of game.. but that's win was not just win.. it was bigger than win for PAKISTANIs peoples.. but unfortunatly pak team did not gave us chance to celebrate the title of t20 w.cup.. any one i still hope pakistan will do better thing in future IN SHAA ALLAH .. I still love PAKISTANI team .. PAKISTAN ZINDABAD..

  • POSTED BY on | October 5, 2012, 12:18 GMT

    Agree with Abassand Afridi should have batted up higher

  • POSTED BY TORONTO123456 on | October 5, 2012, 12:20 GMT

    First of all Pakitan should DROP Afridi and make sure he will never come back to the side the very 1 st ball he got faced bowled him out and he think he is the KING of Pakistani Cricket without him they well do well for sure .