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England v West Indies, 3rd Test, Edgbaston, 4th day

Ramdin regrets attack on Richards

Denesh Ramdin, the West Indies wicketkeeper-batsman, marked his second Test century by brandishing a piece of paper criticising the former West Indies captain Viv Richards.

Nagraj Gollapudi at Edgbaston

June 10, 2012

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Viv Richards bowed to no one. His opponents, mostly bowlers, often paid obeisance to him. They did so not only out of respect but also out of fear that he might hit back powerfully with bat in hand. Denesh Ramdin now knows the feeling.

Ramdin, the West Indies wicketkeeper-batsman, after reaching his second Test century, reacted by unfolding a plain white sheet of paper from his trouser pocket on which was scribbled in capital words "YEH, VIV, TALK NAH." It was a retort to Richards' scathing assessment of his deteriorating form after he had managed only 51 runs and kept wicket inconsistently in the first two Tests.

At the end of the day's play, though, an embarrassed Ramdin admitted he had gone overboard and that his statement, which he had prepared on Saturday morning, was an "emotional" one.

"Sir Viv had something in the press," he said. "I think I got a bit emotional and it came out the way it did. He is a legend of the Caribbean. I still look up to him. If I see him anywhere I will still call him out and probably have a drink with him."

Richards, a former West Indies captain, who is in England as a radio commentator, had lost his patience with Ramdin, whose scores in the series read 1, 43, 1 and 6 respectively. This from a man who had promised at least three fifties and possibly even a century before leaving the Caribbean.

"I can't remember the statement quite clearly, but it was a bit hurtful to me," Ramdin said. "I went to the nets, worked hard, came out and proved myself to the critics."

When Ramdin does walk up to Richards to apologise, he had better do it from a safe distance because Richards seems miffed at being dragged into an unnecessary incident.

"I am the one who touted him as a future captain for West Indies and always thought of him as good but his form had dipped quite recently and I addressed those issues," Richards told ESPNcricinfo. "I questioned his ability because he had lost his confidence and thereby lost his shape."


Denesh Ramdin has a message to broadcast on getting to his ton, England v West Indies, 3rd Test, Edgbaston, 4th day, June 10, 2012
Denesh Ramdin brandishes his piece note © Getty Images
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Richards said Ramdin's emotive gesture after reaching the century was unnecessary, especially because West Indies have already lost the series.

"It is like being in a football match and your team is losing 5-0 and up comes a guy, scores a goal and starts jumping out of joy.

"He has played well and if you're given enough chances you're going to get it done. He should be happy and humble. I think I remember saying he'd lost his confidence, but I'm on the other side of the fence now and I'm here to do a job - there's no sentiment in it. I'm glad that he got the motivation from it. Let's not forget this is in a losing cause -- the team's not winning."

Opinion is growing that Ramdin should be disciplined. Michael Holding said Ramdin had gone down in his estimation and called for the Trinidadian to be given a dressing down and fined. By now Ramdin, recalled to the West Indies squad after a two-year absence, will have recognised that his reaction overshadowed the quality of his second Test century.

He also scored his maiden Test century against England, in a high-scoring draw in Barbados. West Indies played 29 Tests between then and the start of the England tour; Ramdin missed 18 of those. At 27, he is one of the most experienced player in the West Indies squad.

Marlon Samuels had raised a solid platform on Saturday with a brilliant fifty, but his departure, an over before the second new ball was taken late in the evening, gave England the required opening to widen the cracks. Ramdin, who had been emboldened quickly by Samuels during their crucial 56-run sixth-wicket partnership, took on the onus of shepherding the lower order.

Even Ramdin would not have been prepared for the fairy tale that Tino Best was scripting at the other end.

"It was amazing the way that Tino came out and played. He played some unbelievable shots. I did not think he had those shots in his armoury. He expressed himself. That's the way Tino plays."

Best not only listened to his senior batsman, he kept the atmosphere lighthearted and helped Ramdin to relax. "He kept saying: 'Keep going, big dog. You go out there, you get your 100 and then you bat with me to get my 50.' I told him I'll be there when he gets his hundred but unfortunately he got carried away and he didn't get there."

There was one other man who got carried away and Ramdin knows to his detriment who that is. His statement will no doubt make the cricket book of infamous quotes. Richards might go on to pardon him but each time Ramdin takes to the crease, he needs to deliver. If he fails, someone out there will be ready with a paper displaying the words: "YEH, DENESH, TALK NAH!"

Nagraj Gollapudi is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Comments: 108 
Posted by everfaithful77 on (June 13, 2012, 8:24 GMT)

Ramdin himself admitted that Richards' comments MOTIVATED him to go into the nets and practise harder resulting in a beautifully constructed century. SO WHY THE RETORT AT VIV ? Instead he should have been THANKING the Windies great for the criticism which has spurred him into action and yielded positive results already with more to come we hope. Ramdin could've figured that his POOR FORM in the first two tests wouldn't go unnoticed by cricket writers and commentators so why the response to Richards' comments. It doesn't make much sense to me. He must know that his future performances will always be under scrutiny and critic but he must answer with his BAT and GLOVES.

Posted by   on (June 12, 2012, 19:31 GMT)

This is the same man who almost destroyed Marlon Samuels. Why was Ramdin fined? Richard's likening the innings to a consolation goal was even worse and uncalled for. Give credit where credit is due we could easily have folded for 160. Sometimes we seem to have short memories how disciplined was Sir Viv during his playing days? Viv Richards is not God neither is Denesh Ramdin and at the end of the day........... a man is just a man!

Posted by Alexk400 on (June 12, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

Ramdin reaction was immature he should be fined mainly because we do not want players doing these obscene celebration. That said his century is very good. The greats sehwag , sachin and VVS failed to score anything in England in 4 tests. Ramdin did fight to save West indies from going 3-0 down.

Posted by Nampally on (June 12, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

I feel Ramdin's outpouring via his poster was bit childish & immature. His century itself was a strong rebuttal to Viv Rishards' comments.Actions speak louder than the words & his century was an excellent response to all his critics. Why did he have to spoil it with such unwanted deliquincy? Sun shines brightly satisfying the needs of millions whilst the tempest blows noisily destroying anything in its past.Ramadin, please don't act like tempest & self destroy yourself. Humility is the greatest virtue!.

Posted by   on (June 12, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

Totally stupid action... what will happen when he goes out to bat next game and make a small score?....Viv was the one who suggested that Ramdin was a future captain of WI team...Viv is paid to do commentary...Ramdin is paid to play cricket and perform ...so perform consistantly, thatz the bottom line. you can't perform poor and expect people to not talk about it!!!

Posted by   on (June 12, 2012, 11:10 GMT)

I can't believe some of these comments! What Ramdin did was pathetic. The difference is that Viv is paid for his opinions, and Ramdin certainly isn't. Ramdin is paid to keep wicket and bat, and he usually doesn't do the latter very well.

Posted by NumberXI on (June 12, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

Ramdin's reaction may not have been very mature - and it has cost him 20% of his match fee. But the outpouring of love for Richards is a bit strange. Ramdin has not expressed anger at Richards the cricketer. Instead his ire is directed at Richards in his role as commentator. In that sense, Richards is not more immune to criticism than every other commentator. Making this out to be an issue between a great cricketer - which Richards undeniably is - and a good one is not quite right. This is about a cricketer vs a commentator, even if the latter is Richards.

Posted by Balumekka on (June 12, 2012, 7:38 GMT)

For me Ramdin's reaction is 100% justifiable as he neither did show any arrogance, neither did insult Sir Viv, neither he used foul language. If any big mouth can criticize players from outside, why can't players respond to them with this sort of non-violent manner. Sir Viv is a legend, but being a legend does not provide any license or authority to criticize others in a destructive manner.

Posted by   on (June 11, 2012, 22:47 GMT)

He talked for Viv, Viv does not need to. Amateur.

Posted by nafzak on (June 11, 2012, 22:07 GMT)

What Ramdin did may be silly and stupid. Lots of players do and say silly stuff. What he did not do is insult anyone. How is this offensive to Viv? All Ramdin did was talk back with a piece of paper that had not one offensive words. If the ICC is going to fine a player for something like this, then what about the commentators who say negative things about players all the time. Boycott had called Afridi a 'stupid' cricketer with 'no brains'. I agree with Boycott, but does that not count as insulting? Why is it okay for a commentator to say something negative about a player (true as it may be) and it's not okay for the player to say, "Well, I'll show you, how about this now, what do you have to say? Is this not basically what Ramdin did? This matter should be a non issue. How about the ICC imposing a fine on those commentators who openly said that Shiv is a selfish player? Now, that's an insult in my book.

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