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'India played like a No. 1 Test team'

Sanjay Manjrekar reflects on India's 2-0 victory over Australia to retained the the Border-Gavaskar series (13:17)

October 13, 2010

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India v Australia, 2nd Test, Bangalore, 5th day

'India played like a No. 1 Test team'

October 13, 2010

Sachin Tendulkar roars at the dressing room after scoring the winning runs, India v Australia, 2nd Test, Bangalore, 5th day, October 13, 2010
Sanjay Manjrekar: "Sachin Tendulkar now has the best defence that any batsman has ever had" © AFP

Akhila Ranganna: Hello and welcome to ESPNcricinfo. India have completed a clean sweep in Bangalore and joining me is Sanjay Manjrekar to look back on the Test.

A 2-0 victory for India in this series. Mohali came down to a real sea-saw battle, but in this Test, especially today, it's been all India. What was the key difference between the sides?

Sanjay Manjrekar: Yes, you are quite right. In Mohali, although India won the game, there wasn't much to choose between the two teams, it was a pretty even contest. But at the end of the series, with the last day in Bangalore, India clearly looked the better side. One of the key differences was the consistency in batting from both sides: India had more batsmen in form in this series as compared to Australia. And in Bangalore, with Doug Bollinger not playing Australia was always a two-bowler attack, as compared to India, especially in the second innings where all four [India] bowlers chipped in to take wickets.

AR: A word on Cheteshwar Pujara - were you surprised when he came in at No.3? What did you make of Dhoni's tactics to send Pujara at No. 3? And secondly, he looked very assured for someone playing his debut Test.

SM: When I saw Pujara walking in at No. 3, my first reaction was: this is a mistake. With one wicket going down and a target to get on the fourth day, there is a different kind of pressure that one has to contend with and I thought experience should have come in. I could understand that Rahul Dravid, being slightly out of form, being pushed down the order, but I thought Sachin Tendulkar could have come in at No. 3 given he was the man in form. When you talk about experience, you won't get anyone better than Tendulkar.

But slowly it dawned on me that the logic was different. The logic was actually making sure that Pujara - after his failure in the first innings - got a less demanding challenge. As we have seen, batting earlier on in the match against the new ball has been easier. As the ball grows old it becomes softer and batting becomes more of a challenge. So what the team management was looking to do was keeping the experience of Dravid and Tendulkar to counter the more difficult situation that was expected later in the innings. That was the logic that dawned on most people later, but my first instinct was that India may have made a mistake.

AR: He looked remarkably confident didn't he?

SM: He played really well, especially after getting out the way he did in the first innings. He got out very early and though the ball kept low and the lbw decision was contentious, when you get out that early and you are a newcomer coming into a Test, you come with some self-doubt. You might tell yourself you deserve a place in the team but you also have the feeling, 'what if I am not as good as these guys I have watched over the years'. So there is always that doubt over whether you are good enough to be playing for India. And when you get out in that fashion it can really dent your confidence. So it was remarkable to see him come and bat in that fashion in the second innings.

I thought there were three things in his favour. His footwork is very good and traditional; he is very decisive with his footwork. He gets on the front foot and back foot and rarely did he seem hesitant with his footwork. His bat also comes down pretty straight on the ball. That is one good advantage to have. Finally, he has a calm temperament. So he has three very good aspects that will stand him in good stead if he is looking for a long international Test career.

 
 
If you look at Australia's ability, you can see they were not the same team they used to be and they have got some work to do on their overall consistency of their batting
 

AR: What did you make of Ricky Ponting's field placements today especially when Nathan Hauritz was bowling? Was he not backing his bowler enough?

SM: More than field placements, I think it was a clear case of over-bowling Hauritz in this series, especially in this Test. I wonder what the logic was. Once again Marcus North was not used at all. There were 12 overs bowled in the pre-lunch session and Hauritz bowled two overs where he gave away 22 runs. That was critical time in the Test and there would have been no harm in giving Ben Hilfenhaus and Mitchell Johnson six overs each. Knowing that they were the only two bowlers who could have put pressure on the batsmen, his keenness to go to Hauritz every time was something I could not understand. This modern phenomena of bowling short spells is something I cannot understand - exceptions have to be made, and Johnson and Hilfenhaus should have bowled longer spells than they did. Hauritz was clearly over-bowled. It was just a case of him being a release bowler for India; every time he bowled, the pressure was released.

AR: A word on Tendulkar - Man of the Match and Man if the Series; he seems to be getting better with age.

SM: We all age and that can be said about Tendulkar as well. But the fact of the matter is some aspects of his batting are getting better. One important element that is getting better is his defence. For a long time he was called the 'Master Blaster' and he was this gifted, attacking young player; then slowly he became this attacking batsman who played steadily. But now, at this stage of his career, if you look purely at his defence, you could see that he has the best defence that any batsman has ever had. I am including Rahul Dravid, Sunil Gavaskar and Geoffery Boycott in this category; looking at just his defence while batting, in this series especially, that stood out. Hardly anything passed his bat; the bat looked broader than ever before. Another change in the past two-three years is his calmness and serenity when he is batting in the final stages of an innings or the finals stages of a Test. There were times when you could see he was a little tense and anxious in these situations but that has changed. From that view you can say that Tendulkar is getting better as far as his batting is concerned.

AR: Looking back at the series, what would be the key areas of worry for Australia ahead of the Ashes.

SM: The big worry would be the overall consistency of their batsmen which has been a disappointing aspect. Generally we have had decent pitches; they haven't been bad for batting or the rank Indian turners that batsmen struggle on. So the form of their batsmen hasn't been good. Ponting found form but getting out in the 70s will be a worry. Their three seamers look quite good but spin could be a worry; whether Hauritz's confidence will come back quickly for the Ashes. He has had a very ordinary series and at the end of it, it seemed like his confidence was hitting rock-bottom and I wonder if that was the only reason Ponting kept going back to him, to keep his confidence going. It didn't quite help the match situation. Overall, if you look at their ability, you can see they were not the same team they used to be and they have got some work to do on their overall consistency of their batting. India had most of their batsmen in form, even though Dravid wasn't in the best of form he had a 70 to show. That was one advantage India had. Australia didn't have all their batsmen in form at various times in this series.

AR: A word in India's bowling effort - previously when we have discussed this Indian team, there has always been a question mark over the bowling attack. In this series they've bowled Australia out four times in this series and it has been an allround effort from the bowlers. Any positives to emerge from there?


Cheteshwar Pujara plays the ball towards square leg, India v Australia, 2nd Test, Bangalore, 5th day, October 13, 2010
Sanjay Manjrekar: "It was remarkable to see Cheteshwar Pujara come and bat in that fashion in the second innings" © AFP

SM: One of the positives would be Zaheer Khan, but lets not forget the contribution of the SG ball in this series. That ball has swung well for the seamers after it has become old so that was one of the reasons we saw such a great Test in Mohali. It has given people like Zaheer another string in their bow and has also helped the Australian seamers. So that has helped Zaheer come back strongly and go through the tail which has been one of India's problems. So that was an advantage that India used well.

Harbhajan Singh himself would say he could have done better in this series. Another find has been Pragyan Ojha. India have discovered a spinner who will keep pressure from one end; who can be steady and reliable in any conditions. He is the Venkatapathy Raju India had with Anil Kumble. So perhaps India need to find a spinner who can run through the opposition. Harbhajan has not been able to do that often enough. So if Harbhajan could become that bowler, then Ojha would be a great foil. But India need to find a couple of bowlers who can run through sides.

Sreesanth had a better second innings but he is not that bowler yet. Sreesanth looked quite ordinary in the first innings but in the second innings his game picked up and the ball started to swing for him. That is where he has one advantage over Ishant Sharma. Sreesanth has one stock wicket-taking delivery: when he is good rhythm he bowls a lovely outswinger and that gets him some good wickets, unlike Ishant who doesn't have that kind of a delivery. So it is high time Ishant develops such a delivery that will in time of crisis, when he is looking to get wickets, he could keep bowling that delivery to get a wicket. That is where Sreesanth is better off, but there is healthy competition for that second seamer's position along with Zaheer. So Zaheer and Ojha have been the positive developments for India.

AR: India are the No. 1 ranked Test team, but questions have been raised on that. Looking at the way India have performed, how do you think this augurs for them, given the hectic Test calendar ahead?

SM: India should be proud of their position in the ICC Test rankings because these are points given for performances on the field. India have performed well on the field. You can bring all the other elements in: whether the pitches were suited to India, they have played a lot of cricket in the subcontinent in the last 18 months so that has been an advantage. But for the moment India should be proud and celebrate the position they are holding. We all know the real test will be in the next 18 months; if India is still able to hold that position after the tours of Australia, England and South Africa. If India manage to do that, then it will silence all critics about the ability of the team. So that might be the acid Test. But for the moment they have every right to believe they are the No. 1 team and they played like a No. 1 team in this series. They looked a good batting unit, their bowling was good enough and their fielding wasn't too bad. And their performances on the field show these are points well deserved. So India should be proud of that.

AR: Thanks Sanjay for your views.

Posted by Abhimanyu on (October 15, 2010, 21:34 GMT)

@tru_crciket_fan and manasvi_lingam, my numbers are 100% correct. I am not talking about First-class (three or more days duration matches) averages, I am talking about are "List A matches" (domestic 50-over matches) averages. I know that Ajinkya Rahane averages 66.91 to be exact in First-class matches, but he averages 40.41 compares to Pujara's 57.08 in List A matches. Don't tell me that my numbers are wrong, when you don't know the difference between First-class and List A matches. Also it was clearly mentioned in the first line of my first comment "domestic 50-over format". READ CAREFULLY first next time, before making an comment.

Posted by S.N.Singh on (October 14, 2010, 17:51 GMT)

It true that Tendulkar is aging, he has 760 more runs to reach the 15,000 runs Gavakar wanted to get. He will be around 38/39 before he can reach that.The way he is batting as iI have said before, if he do not want to get out he will not get out, he should be able to reach it in the next five yest. Bear in mind Pointin is two years younger and is behind about 2000 runs. Austrailia will not allow hin to go untill he break Tendulkar mark. the way they did with Allan Border. He played until he was forty. So Sachin will have be more positive of going out. Because the Australiaians will not allow that to happen. Keep healthy Sachin. S.N.Singh USA

Posted by Laxyvick on (October 14, 2010, 11:03 GMT)

What Dhoni was trying to do was to ensure that Dravid and Tendulkar were there in case of a crisis ... Pujara has played an excellent knock ... but replacing Dravid is far cry ... something excellently put in the following article ...

http://senantixtwentytwoyards.blogspot.com/2010/10/three-amigos-and-young-man.html

Posted by FAZPOWER on (October 14, 2010, 8:54 GMT)

Dear Manjrekar and the cricinfo team,

You have not talked about Vijay who contributed more than Pujara. Give equal credit to the performers. The partnership between Sachin and Vijay is the crucial point in the test match.

Posted by true_cricket_fan on (October 14, 2010, 2:19 GMT)

@Abhimanyu: Friend, you have got all your numbers wrong. Rahane has an average of almost 60 and Tiwary close to 50. Check the stats first before writing unnecessary comments.

Posted by shovwar on (October 14, 2010, 1:12 GMT)

India would still have to win in SA to retain the no.1 status....Losing to SA would hand SA the no.1 status and slide to no.2 this November. The real battle starts this November and SA team is a harder opponent than Aus team at the moment given the form and place where the test is being played....Great played against OZs at home...Best of luck against SA away from home.......

Posted by dit1 on (October 14, 2010, 0:39 GMT)

Sanjay Manjrekar keeps repeating the same comment atleast twice!

Posted by 9rahula on (October 13, 2010, 22:56 GMT)

May be Sachin's defense was as strong before, but the instincts have calmed down a lot more! The interesting thing about him is that he is growing in confidence every match.

At the peak of his youth, he either used to get out very early or score big. Now, he rarely gets out early. I don't have figures but am very sure that his consistency levels in all formats of the game have improved as remarkably as his defense.

Perhaps stronger defense(in my words, higher concentration or maturity) and consistent starts are non exclusive in nature and rather might be highly co-related!

Posted by manasvi_lingam on (October 13, 2010, 22:52 GMT)

@Abhimanyu: By your logic, Vijay Merchant is the greatest batsman of all time after Bradman but we know it isn't true. Do not read into FC averages alone. Someone like Sehwag has a FC average of less than 50 (when Tests are removed) and he is a much better batsman than Saba Karim who averaged over 50. Mukund is good but so is Rahane. And if you talk about averages alone, then mention Ishant Jaggi, Tanmay Srivastava, etc.

Posted by akpy on (October 13, 2010, 17:36 GMT)

Can cricinfo do everyone a favour and stop manjrekar or for that matter, ian chappel's views? yes, i am a sachin fan but what hurt most people is him saying sachin is an elephant in the room, etc a few years back when for everyone to see, sachin has always been the ultimate professional and team man...just see him engage with juniors who were in their nappies when he started cricket..and sachin himself used to revere sanjay in those early days, when sanjay was not even one of india's better players..and people like sanjay still comment about the great man just to get TRPs, some press...shame on him. Can understand chappel but sanjay, who was once close to sachin commenting so lowly about a man was not digestable to me..

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