India v Australia, 3rd ODI, Mohali October 20, 2013

Don't need to spoon-feed bowlers - Dhoni

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India captain MS Dhoni, who had hit the third-highest score for a No. 6 batsman to lift his wobbling side to above 300, admitted that death-overs bowling is a headache that is getting worse for the team, especially with the fifth fielder having to come up inside the circle according to the new rules.

Australia required 44 off the last three overs at Mohali, but Ishant Sharma's persistence with either length or short-pitched bowling played into James Faulkner's game plan as he robbed four sixes to reduce the equation to a far simpler 14 off 12 balls.

"I think the last few overs were disappointing, it is an area of concern and it is getting worse. There was a bit of dew but not like in the last game, the individuals will have to step up, you have to back your strength," Dhoni said. "You don't need to spoon-feed bowlers at the international level."

Dhoni sympathised with the challenge the bowlers have to tackle with only four fielders outside the 30-yard circle after the Powerplays, but added that holding one's discipline even at the worst of times could prove the most telling difference in the course of a match.

"This generation of bowlers, though they have some amount of experience, if you consider the rule changes, with fifth fielder inside [the circle], I think most of the bowlers or all the bowlers are very new because experience doesn't really count at the point of time.

"A few bowlers may have off days and that's where you have to make sure you are not giving away too many runs," he said. "Even when you bowl a bad over, try to restrict it in between 15-18 runs, because if you go higher than that, it has a bigger impact on the game."

Dhoni predicted such shifts late in the game could become quite common, especially in the course of this series, with pitches favouring batting, the impact of dew and two good sides on display.

"In the last game, we performed in the same situation and we were able to put pressure on them," he said. "To some extent, we were in a winning position in this game but I think in this series especially, you'll see quite a few times this balance shifting, and from that point the side that bowls slightly better is the one that will win most of the games"

As much as taking wickets restricted the opposition's scoring, the new rules provide the batting side with the opportunity to spark a turnaround, as India themselves proved rising from 154 for 6 in the 32nd over to finish at 303.

"Today we kept losing wickets but still we got 300-odd runs," Dhoni said. "So with that fifth fielder inside its becoming a bit difficult and with right amount of partnerships and if you have wickets in hand, you may see the team scoring on the higher end of the 300-plus scores"

To prepare for such situations, Dhoni said India try to simulate the slog overs by putting fielders in place and checking how far the ball can be hit, even off the outside edge. But net performance does not mirror match situations because there is no "real pressure".

"Nobody really wants to bowl a bad over, but if it happens the individual is more disappointed than anyone else in the stadium or the team," he said. "Ideally, it is best to leave him to this thoughts and then have a chat with him after the team is back at the hotel when he will be less frustrated and more accepting."

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  • on October 20, 2013, 13:29 GMT

    Although disagree with dhoni's comments, dhoni does deserve some respect. Bowling hadn't been India's strength in any era and we have seen India losing matches after posting big scores but at the same time they have chased down even bigger and difficult totals against better bowling attacks. Point is, bowling has been India's weak point and it will not go up side down in next few days. They have to concentrate on chasing/posting bigger scores and thats where they are good rather than shifting the focus to their bowling. Like Pakistan's strength had been their faster bowlers but shifting the focus to their batting/spin bowling only messes the teams overall performance now since last three years they are losing more matches than they are winning against the teams ranked better than them.

  • Silverbails on October 20, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    It's so sad to lose yet another game through extremely poor death bowling, and that by Ishant. He's prove far too profligate in similar situations for India over the last few years. Perhaps it's time for him to give way to another fresh new fast bowler. Surely, there's a few of them around, given the plethora of cricket being played in India at any one time? Great memory of him will ALWAYS be THAT over to Ponting, albeit in Test cricket!! However, all that said, there's no real names that spring to mind. And, sadly this ODI death bowling has become a real problem for ALL of the Indian bowlers in recent years!! Let's hope for better in the rest of the series, and a RARE ODI series win in India over the Aussies would really help to lift spirits...

  • mike.iz on October 20, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is not a limited over/t20 bowler.He's a test bowler some one n the lines of a Steve Harmison 63 tests to 60(odi& t20) in a 7 year international career. His short of the length is perfect for tests but in the shorter formats in just the right spot for the shot to mid wicket. And with one fielder less on the boundary it is just to hard.Haven't seen a bowler bowl successfully over a few matches since the new rule change.Bowlers are being killed and batsman given the chance to score on a platter. Does not seem fair.There might be shortage of bowlers soon if this keeps going on. Back to Ishant he seems to be real down on confidence a break might be just what he needs & focus on being the best test bowler he could possibly be.

  • DingDong420 on October 22, 2013, 14:50 GMT

    Ishant has never really had a clue when bowling in ODI's

  • GrindAR on October 22, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    there were too manu suggestions folks... including mine... Just let it cool down... New rule seriously playing uncertainty part, for the fact, the last two games were won by chasing the dominant total set. Ok... more than bowlers, captains need some time, if he was not educated on implication of the new rule in the match. Seems like aus did that well to Bailey and bcci did not take care of that part and left it to Dhoni to figure out. I some how feel, India will bounce back in next and stay there for the remaining games.

    But the new rule is a rue added to the woes and uncertainty that cricket has now. Some how the game is loosing the glamour by ever changing rules to benefit certain sect of the boards... that is pathetic ICC. They did not impose the legal dimensions of the bat and the ground (outfield), which are as essential as the dimensions of the stumps, bails, and balls. When they bring the uniformity there, we can talk about fairness and records broken etc, in logical senses.

  • on October 22, 2013, 13:50 GMT

    Ishant sharma you don't know how to bowl slower balls and yorkers, You know only one way of bowling is short ball whatever is the pitch conditions. btw, every one is pointing out Ishant sharma , how about Ashwin, He replaced harbhajan singh who failed only in foreign conditions, through the years India has been more powerful in indian conditions mainly because of their spin bowling, no he is trying too many things and forget the bowling he is an off spinner:-) it is high time to give a chance to Amit Mishara. I believe if Indian batsmen given chance to bat against Indian bowling they will score 400+ runs in each inning.

  • kevaldedhia813 on October 22, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Cant give excuse for any loss. As pointed out earlier by dhoni, the format of the game has been tampered and hence bowlers have less or no support on asian pitches. Two bouncers are of no help on indian pitches. I think that rule of just 4 players outside circle is completely wrong and should be changed. You are inviting high scoring games on asian pitches and low scoring conditions which are helpful only for bowlers in other continents.

  • on October 22, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    we have better bowler zaheer, umesh,rp singh,varun why MSD carrying ishant i dono.

  • on October 22, 2013, 8:53 GMT

    The basic requirement from a seam bowler is that he should be able to land the ball on seam. He should be able to keep the seam straight so that the bowl can do something. Even the bowlers playing on local maidaans have this skill. But Ishant doesn't have it. He never had it and hasn't learnt it till now. He seems to be someone having a low to mediocre IQ who is somehow unable to comprehend what a particular situation demands. The only thing he had was speed. But it is also so much up and down. The guy can't even properly see where he is landing the ball(He is looking down or his eyes are closed or hair coming in the way). I think he was inducted too early without having learnt his skills properly. Since then, he has only gone downhill. He should take a timeout and learn the basics first. Then, he should return to domestic cricket. He would only embarrass himself at international level at the moment.

  • gavinfrank on October 22, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    How long are we going to tolerate this below average bowler who is so consistent at being inconsistent. Surely there are better bowlers in India. Even if we have to try new bowlers, they will not perform any worse than what this guy is performing at the moment. Even if we try an Ishwar pandey or mohit sharma , and even if they get hit for plenty , they will learn from the experience and become better bowlers. For a guy who has played 50+ test matches and more than 70 odi's , he has absolutely no clue how to bowl and we are still praying and hoping that he will learn from his mistakes and improve. And mistakes are aplenty , but improvement is nil. I dont have a problem with him getting smashed for runs , its the manner in which he got smashed, bowling short , wide , half volleys on leg stump etc , even tail enders will hit you for runs.He makes things so very simple for the batsmen , Australia must be licking their lips at the prospect of facing Ishant in the rest of the series,5-2 Aus.

  • on October 20, 2013, 13:29 GMT

    Although disagree with dhoni's comments, dhoni does deserve some respect. Bowling hadn't been India's strength in any era and we have seen India losing matches after posting big scores but at the same time they have chased down even bigger and difficult totals against better bowling attacks. Point is, bowling has been India's weak point and it will not go up side down in next few days. They have to concentrate on chasing/posting bigger scores and thats where they are good rather than shifting the focus to their bowling. Like Pakistan's strength had been their faster bowlers but shifting the focus to their batting/spin bowling only messes the teams overall performance now since last three years they are losing more matches than they are winning against the teams ranked better than them.

  • Silverbails on October 20, 2013, 8:51 GMT

    It's so sad to lose yet another game through extremely poor death bowling, and that by Ishant. He's prove far too profligate in similar situations for India over the last few years. Perhaps it's time for him to give way to another fresh new fast bowler. Surely, there's a few of them around, given the plethora of cricket being played in India at any one time? Great memory of him will ALWAYS be THAT over to Ponting, albeit in Test cricket!! However, all that said, there's no real names that spring to mind. And, sadly this ODI death bowling has become a real problem for ALL of the Indian bowlers in recent years!! Let's hope for better in the rest of the series, and a RARE ODI series win in India over the Aussies would really help to lift spirits...

  • mike.iz on October 20, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is not a limited over/t20 bowler.He's a test bowler some one n the lines of a Steve Harmison 63 tests to 60(odi& t20) in a 7 year international career. His short of the length is perfect for tests but in the shorter formats in just the right spot for the shot to mid wicket. And with one fielder less on the boundary it is just to hard.Haven't seen a bowler bowl successfully over a few matches since the new rule change.Bowlers are being killed and batsman given the chance to score on a platter. Does not seem fair.There might be shortage of bowlers soon if this keeps going on. Back to Ishant he seems to be real down on confidence a break might be just what he needs & focus on being the best test bowler he could possibly be.

  • DingDong420 on October 22, 2013, 14:50 GMT

    Ishant has never really had a clue when bowling in ODI's

  • GrindAR on October 22, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    there were too manu suggestions folks... including mine... Just let it cool down... New rule seriously playing uncertainty part, for the fact, the last two games were won by chasing the dominant total set. Ok... more than bowlers, captains need some time, if he was not educated on implication of the new rule in the match. Seems like aus did that well to Bailey and bcci did not take care of that part and left it to Dhoni to figure out. I some how feel, India will bounce back in next and stay there for the remaining games.

    But the new rule is a rue added to the woes and uncertainty that cricket has now. Some how the game is loosing the glamour by ever changing rules to benefit certain sect of the boards... that is pathetic ICC. They did not impose the legal dimensions of the bat and the ground (outfield), which are as essential as the dimensions of the stumps, bails, and balls. When they bring the uniformity there, we can talk about fairness and records broken etc, in logical senses.

  • on October 22, 2013, 13:50 GMT

    Ishant sharma you don't know how to bowl slower balls and yorkers, You know only one way of bowling is short ball whatever is the pitch conditions. btw, every one is pointing out Ishant sharma , how about Ashwin, He replaced harbhajan singh who failed only in foreign conditions, through the years India has been more powerful in indian conditions mainly because of their spin bowling, no he is trying too many things and forget the bowling he is an off spinner:-) it is high time to give a chance to Amit Mishara. I believe if Indian batsmen given chance to bat against Indian bowling they will score 400+ runs in each inning.

  • kevaldedhia813 on October 22, 2013, 12:53 GMT

    Cant give excuse for any loss. As pointed out earlier by dhoni, the format of the game has been tampered and hence bowlers have less or no support on asian pitches. Two bouncers are of no help on indian pitches. I think that rule of just 4 players outside circle is completely wrong and should be changed. You are inviting high scoring games on asian pitches and low scoring conditions which are helpful only for bowlers in other continents.

  • on October 22, 2013, 9:25 GMT

    we have better bowler zaheer, umesh,rp singh,varun why MSD carrying ishant i dono.

  • on October 22, 2013, 8:53 GMT

    The basic requirement from a seam bowler is that he should be able to land the ball on seam. He should be able to keep the seam straight so that the bowl can do something. Even the bowlers playing on local maidaans have this skill. But Ishant doesn't have it. He never had it and hasn't learnt it till now. He seems to be someone having a low to mediocre IQ who is somehow unable to comprehend what a particular situation demands. The only thing he had was speed. But it is also so much up and down. The guy can't even properly see where he is landing the ball(He is looking down or his eyes are closed or hair coming in the way). I think he was inducted too early without having learnt his skills properly. Since then, he has only gone downhill. He should take a timeout and learn the basics first. Then, he should return to domestic cricket. He would only embarrass himself at international level at the moment.

  • gavinfrank on October 22, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    How long are we going to tolerate this below average bowler who is so consistent at being inconsistent. Surely there are better bowlers in India. Even if we have to try new bowlers, they will not perform any worse than what this guy is performing at the moment. Even if we try an Ishwar pandey or mohit sharma , and even if they get hit for plenty , they will learn from the experience and become better bowlers. For a guy who has played 50+ test matches and more than 70 odi's , he has absolutely no clue how to bowl and we are still praying and hoping that he will learn from his mistakes and improve. And mistakes are aplenty , but improvement is nil. I dont have a problem with him getting smashed for runs , its the manner in which he got smashed, bowling short , wide , half volleys on leg stump etc , even tail enders will hit you for runs.He makes things so very simple for the batsmen , Australia must be licking their lips at the prospect of facing Ishant in the rest of the series,5-2 Aus.

  • latecut_04 on October 22, 2013, 7:58 GMT

    First of all respect and credit to Dhoni for not piling blame on Ishant(like a certain Azhar.)We never had and probably will NEVER have match winning fast bowlers.(given the craze for short formats,fast scoring etc).Next- Ishant Sharma's case: he didnt select himslef and like someone said here sanely he isnt an ODI or T20 bowler.His downturn started with first IPL and he has never been the same bowler who bowled so well in Aus in 2008.Ofcourse he wont and NEEDNT stop playing short formats himslef because that is where the money is.Its upto the selectors to make that call.Probably dhoni has an eye on the bouncy and a bit faster tracks in Aus where WC will be played in 2015 and thats why hes pesrsisting with Ishant.Certain decisions will backfire and I am sure Dhoni is unmoved by all this flak.India's future bowling line up should have the likes of Umesh,varun etc(who knows whow they will turn out but theres nothing right now).leave Ishant for tests where he will do well (hopefully).peac

  • Santyment on October 22, 2013, 7:38 GMT

    It is variation in length and pace of deliveries which is very important in limited over cricket (ODIs and T20s). Ishant has not been good at these ever. Dhoni with coach needs to guide him on this front and until he learns these, he should be rested. No excuses anymore.

  • on October 22, 2013, 6:35 GMT

    On flat tracks in the subcontinent , its really difficult for the pacers to bowl in the death overs with only 4 men outside the ring. I believe that Its from the 40th over, the game started shifting in favor of the Aussies. First the 17 run over from Kohli( Raina/Yuvi/Ishant could have been better for bowling 40th over than Kohli). Then Vinay leaked 14 runs in 46th over and then Ishant 30 runs in 48th over. All these led to India's loss. Also we lost 4 wkts for 76 runs at the end of 14th over , which was terrible on a batting paradise. If it was 76/2 that time, the score might have been 325, and that might have put more pressure on Aussies and even Ishant's 30 run over would have not been enough for them to seal the game!

  • on October 22, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    Australia lost the match despite scoring 359 in the second match, so what if Ishant Sharma goes for 30 runs in an over, anyways 300+ have become easily chaseable scores in today's scenario. Though India lost, the match had become interesting towards the ends, and such matches make the series alive. Hope India wins the series.

  • on October 22, 2013, 5:06 GMT

    Dhoni by far is the best captain without a doubt,he gave his hundred percent,but now it's time to change the bowling attack.it looks pretty ordinary,not even ishant but the other lad,vinay kumar doesn't deserve to be in the national squad and even ravichandran ashwin is being read by most of the aussies.so the management really have to think about it seriouslly.the bowling attack is no way near the lights of zaheer khan or irfan pathan and i think bhajji should be given a shot,by watching his current form in ipl and experience,he could prove to be an asset for the team.

  • on October 22, 2013, 3:19 GMT

    When the batsmen are hitting successfully hard the sixers of the bowling of pace bowlers why to continue the pace bowlers in the death overs. Slow bowlers are more effective since the batsman have to use force in hitting the ball to sixers and there is every possibility of mistiming. Ashwin invariably succeeds in this venture. Amit Mishra could also be tried. Why even Raina, Kohili, Yuvaraj are good bowlers to be tried at this juncture. We lost the match due to lack of intelligence in choosing the bowlers at death

  • crick50 on October 22, 2013, 2:13 GMT

    Dhoni..Try to learn how to praise opponent when they are at peak rather than just blamming one bowler for spoon feeding.. When you can hit 100+ & other bunch failure you know some one else from opponent team also will do the same.. There is always bad days for bowler when any batsman try to target & hit Result is same let it me Faulkner Pull shot or Dhonis helicopter shot result is same. Whom do you blame.. Did Aus complain about their bowler when Kohli too the match away from them..Try to appreciate opponent team when they really outplayed you..It makes healthy sport.. You keep persisting Jadeja & rohit for number of matches.. Now both at their peak.. Any youngster given much chances will try to grab the oppertunity at them.. I don't blame your tactics . Just it was not your day.. So accept it go on to praise who shows the guts.. If you say its due to new rules it applies to you as well you may not able to score 100+ without new rules.

  • on October 21, 2013, 21:43 GMT

    Dhoni has gotta find bowlers who can prevent batsmen from hitting sixes. Send for some advice from former West Indian batsman Keith Arthurton re his last over against Steve Waugh at Bourda,Georgetown,Guyana in an ODI (Australia vs West Indies).

  • Prakmca on October 21, 2013, 19:06 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni - When Ishant had bowled well? Tell me one match winning bowling from him? We have lost many matches becoz of him. If a player not learning from his past mistakes, not deserved to play Intl. matches....

    Very bad to say, that Ishant leads indian pace bowling dept.....

    Only in Indian team we call... Ishant - Leads pace attack Jadeja - ALL ROUNDER (Pathetic with bat....only god only know how he scored 300s in domestic matches)- But bowling OK in patches... no consistency in bowling also....

    If this is the case we have to redefine the words in dictionary for ALL ROUNDER and Bowling Spear head

  • on October 21, 2013, 18:55 GMT

    Next match that India loses, media should demand that Dhoni comes to the press conference & explains to the media what other than favoritism was involved in picking R Ashwin & I Sharma. When they are clearly down on performance / confidence, why has Dhoni insisted on feeding their junk balls to Aussies AND then, blaming their failure to perform, rather than his own selection failure. Dhoni should explain what vested interest he has in not giving them a break so they can come back as better bowlers. ...Is he working on ensuring that these 2 are out of contention for the next WC ?

  • on October 21, 2013, 17:28 GMT

    RaviNarla - you make a seemingly good point, but - with fielders placed on the boundary - batsmen are more cautious about attempting sixes in their direction...

  • BigINDFan on October 21, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    Dhoni is a very good finisher and good wicket keeper. He is a calm and consistent captain. However he is not a strong captain. His adamant nature of picking the same XI every match is beyond me. Assess body language, form and situation of the series and pick the bowlers available to you. Why was Ishant picked when he had two bad bad matches? Would he pick Pujara if he did not score in 2 matches - no he will switch him to someone else.

    It is time to either remove captaincy from Dhoni or the final XI for each match is picked by the coach with only input from the captain. This excuse of one less fielder outside the circle is hilarious given Faulkner scored 4 sixes off Ishant not fours. Even Dhoni could have bowled that over and given half the runs.

    Why not pick Shami or Unandkat instead of Ishant? Also bench Ashwin and give Mishra the run. Get Harbhajan in for one of the fast bowlers if the wickets are so flat. Be innovative, imaginative and stop giving excuses!!

  • aldyhyde on October 21, 2013, 16:33 GMT

    When a bowler gets hit for 4 sixes, it doesn't matter how many fielders are outside the inner circle.

  • Temuzin on October 21, 2013, 16:06 GMT

    Posted by RaviNarla on (October 21, 2013, 14:32 GMT) There is one thing I disagree with Dhoni. If the ball is sailing a clear 10 to 15 yards over the boundary how does a fielder restriction matter.

    It matters in the brain of the batsmen. When they see only a few fielders they know even if they mishit they will not be caught. And with that feeling they start going arial route more often than not.

  • on October 21, 2013, 15:24 GMT

    Just give me once chance, i will show how to and where to bowl in the final overs.

  • GrindAR on October 21, 2013, 14:47 GMT

    IS had the bonce back day until the 8th. As a captain... it is normal to give the 48th over to who had good control on the ball on that given day. JF is a dangerous man... most of us know that for the fact. If a bowler is not knowing a particular batsman of his caliber well and the situation well, nobody can help it. This shows how mindless IS is. Regardless of the first 7 overs, the end figure still read he was the most expensive of the lineup, and his over truned the match against India. This is a very familiarthing for him now-a-days. I can bet, he will just give 5% of contribution overall to India Winning.But give 80% of contribution for dragging India to loose the game.There are options for India to pick a better alternate. If Dhoni still trust him... complete his overs before the 40th. Atleast, India will have a window to bounce back after the damages he creates.

  • RaviNarla on October 21, 2013, 14:32 GMT

    There is one thing I disagree with Dhoni. If the ball is sailing a clear 10 to 15 yards over the boundary how does a fielder restriction matter.

  • PTtheAxis on October 21, 2013, 13:53 GMT

    agree with chetan asher. resources are there biut are not being used because of blatant favouritism.

  • Rant0r on October 21, 2013, 13:34 GMT

    Not sure how 4 fielders outside the circle affects this so much when the ball is flying 104 metres. Small grounds, big bats and flat pitches affect it more, surely India are used to this

  • Dona007 on October 21, 2013, 11:32 GMT

    Cant understand why not Har'singh instead I'sharma. He is always good aganist Aus... and he is a much claver bowler than I'sharma.

  • on October 21, 2013, 10:54 GMT

    i donot understand that ishant sharma is club level bowler what he is doing in indian team there is so much injustice in that world and this is one of them

  • Indus11 on October 21, 2013, 10:34 GMT

    Try this at home.

    Create a team national cricket by choosing batsmen from this side of the 'border' and bowlers from the other side and play this team against Australia in the very next match.

    Then see how it goes.

    Other comments welcome on along this idea.

  • xtrafalgarx on October 21, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    India, your bowling just isn't good enough. Face the facts, If dhoni keeps picking ishant, it means he is your best bowler.

  • on October 21, 2013, 10:33 GMT

    it will not make any difference as both these teams will chase any given score..........2 of the strongest batting lineups in one day cricket and the pitch or the conditions will not bother both sides,This series is a run festival and the bowlers will always be on the receiving end no matter if you are an experienced Bowler or a new comer..............

  • ianjlockwood on October 21, 2013, 10:32 GMT

    India scored 47 of the last three overs of the thier innings, so the fact Aus scored 44 of the last 3 shouldnt be that much of a suprise surely?!

  • LovedFansofIndianCricket on October 21, 2013, 9:16 GMT

    Even Aussies have Mitch,Falkner, McKey and Watson. They don't control flow of run in T20 and 2nd and Third ODI. How dhoni believed out of form Ishant control the run. He should not included him in XI He should try Unadkat or Shammi. I will bet Mr Cool will retain Ishant in next ODI also. He don't know other players are not cool minded like him.

  • on October 21, 2013, 9:11 GMT

    @TRAM - I 100% agree with your theory about when to go for containment instead of attacking, but I think there was turn on offer and the lead spinner should have attacked on that wicket, which I think is India's strength.

  • LovedFansofIndianCricket on October 21, 2013, 9:04 GMT

    I am big fan of Dhoni. After CT Final I told many friend that Dhoni reads the opponent players mind. But know they says that he reads opponents mind but he fails to read his own players mind. Yes it is write. He fails to read Ishant' mind. He is not in form. In T20 against Aussies and first one day also. From Second ODI he started to bowl him as opener. But in 2 ODI also his economy is not improved. So retained Ishant in 3 ODI and also he gave him crucial over when Aussies started to hit. And he blames Ishant. And my another question why he gave kohli. What your answer for this Mr Dhoni. Raina bowls better than kohli. Blaming others by MSD. It is first time I think from Dhoni's Career.

  • on October 21, 2013, 9:00 GMT

    By giving a long rope as pe Dhonir to Ishant,Vinay,Ashwin,you are putting them under pressure to perform in the last 4 ODI'S,which may or may not click.Country cannot aford to risk their non-performance,instead they should have tried new pacers who are waiting for opportunity,since they do not have godfathers in the board/selection committee.Dhoni should not put pressure for No.4 position,since 4,5 & 6 being middle order,have to be shuffled,since this will depend on the day's performance of the batsman due to batting,teams,weather,pitch conditions prevailing at that point of time.

  • on October 21, 2013, 8:34 GMT

    As if he had dropped Ishant after the 30 run over.If he is so unhappy about his performance then why MSD still has to keep him in the Squad?

    If MSD wants Ishant then he not only needs to Spoon feed but also need to be ready for more defeats.

  • thE_baCk_beNcHer on October 21, 2013, 8:31 GMT

    I don't know why indian pacer does not improve. Look at the Junaid Khan, he has become much more complete bowler in short time than Vinay and Ishant. Why they just don't try to bowl within their limits. Ishant should get benefit from his height.

  • JAYESHQATAR on October 21, 2013, 8:01 GMT

    If India would have been won the game least by 1 run, the blames on Ishant, Dhoni etc would never been happened here. If we analyse the entire match, Aussies really deserve the win, becaz Bailey dropped Dhoni for an easy attempt. If that was caught, India's score never been went pass 280-290. Or in other way, I don't understand why Dhoni is still depending on both the out of form Ishant and Aswin, they must be rested. Ishant's last over shows how intelligent he is.Desert in bowling due to politics..?

  • on October 21, 2013, 7:54 GMT

    i think Dhoni wants to put some fielders in the air :) thats why he is bashing 4 fielders rule

  • somone4u on October 21, 2013, 7:30 GMT

    just an opinion...if trying kholi.. would love to see raina nd rohit move thier arms during middle overs between..

  • udayms on October 21, 2013, 7:22 GMT

    Even on bowler friendly pitches, Ishant is not leading the attack as he should wit his experience like Zaheer used to do.I do not understand what is stopping the Indian bowlers from trying to bowl yorkers.They repeatedly persist with the lengh lengh and lengh. Its time we look ahead and get a bit of pace into the attack by bringing in someone like a Umesh Yadav. From the bating perspective if Dhoni is planning for 2015 in Aus, then we need some stability. I dont see eithr Yuvi or Raina providing that at No.4. They simply do not have the technique to cope with relatively new ball. Its time we bring Pujara in at 4 and give me games and time to settle in @ 4. He has the proper technique to counter situations.

  • Thegimp on October 21, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    India has created its own monster. Producing flat, dry, dusty spin friendly wickets throughout domestic and international cricket for 50 plus years has meant their home record will always be good but when faced with true bounce and seam they will always faulter. Similarly they have not been able to produce quality seamers on a regular enough basis as their wickets do not favour the effort.

  • PPL11 on October 21, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    People are going crazy & complaning the flat pitches is problem but i guess the new Generation bowlers seems ignored art of bowling deadly yourkers like Wasim, Waqar used to bowl and then even the batsmen were not able to score on flat pitches in death overs, so somehow bowlers needs to regain art of bowling those deadly yourkers

  • zamoo on October 21, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    Why only blame ishant sharma? Other bowlers went for plenty too huh? What about the batters except Mr dhoni & koli? They did what on this batting friendly pitch? Nothing! I don't see any one blame them. Dhoni & co. should know that they must score over 400 atleast to win in these pitches to win a match. And batters failed the team by 100 runs! So plz give this Ishanth guy a break. If u want him to do well, make fair pitches which has something for every one. Then batters hard earned runs will get a great value. Cheers!

  • sandy_bangalore on October 21, 2013, 6:53 GMT

    Yuvraj and Raina(along with a couple others) have proved that on flat pitches they are kings, but clueless against pace and bounce. Yuvraj infact can neither play when the ball swings and also struggles against quality spin. The bowling is rightly criticized, but on the hard Aussie wickets in 2015, there are many Indian batsmen(with possible exceptions of Kohli and Dhoni), who have inflated averages and are overhyped thanks to their records on such pitches, but will be soft targets for 140+ bowlers. Put someone with technique to shore up our so-called strong middle order

  • on October 21, 2013, 6:43 GMT

    weak indian bowling and flat wickets are causing this fuss for india, IPL has ruining cricket all over the world specially indian cricket, crowd only want to see sixer and sixers in a game and thats y each groundsman create a batting paradise. 11 fielder only serves as a slaves of batsman who has all authority to play the ball anywhere everywhere.Nor the 2 balls rule also causing a problem for the reverse swing bowlers and spinners. not to forget the field restriction in a circle

    The stage is only sets for batsman.... RIP Bowling

  • Naresh28 on October 21, 2013, 6:37 GMT

    WE LOST the match in two areas when Kohli was bowling and then later Ishant. Why were these two used at crictical stages? We had Raina who is a accurate spinner. Ishant and Vinay are too one dimensional bowlers - they dont change a single thing - pace, angle, around the stumps, speed,thinking - Faulkner is tall and Ishant kept banging it in just where Faulkner wanted it. ZAKS, Pandey, Mohit, Yadav, Aaron, Shukla - these guys are better choices. Bowling is our weakness and has become more exposed since ZAKS went off the scene.

  • on October 21, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    I astonished why Ishant is in indian team.If u look at his statistics right from the IPL 2013 and CLT 2013 he was the worst among the indian bowlers. He is the only guy who is miss fit in the indian squad. They should go for young bowler like Buneshwar.

  • on October 21, 2013, 6:13 GMT

    dhoni has to be admired for keeping his cool and wearing a smile at the presentation, and has to be complimented for persevering with ishant for the rest of the series. if i was in his place, the first thing i would have done is to get a proper hair cut for ishant, and then force him to bowl yorkers at 140-145 kmph like he used to do against australia in the famous 2007 tour. ishant deserves to get a bamboo on the back and should not be allowed to get away for his ordinary performance.

  • RoyalsQatar on October 21, 2013, 6:11 GMT

    1.Ishant Sharma has got no pace at all to bowl to such a good opposition. 2.If someone can inform BKumar to change his line & length instead of keeping the same length through out his 10 overs. he never tries to yock, no slow bowls, no bouncers nothing. he just tries to swing the ball every time he balls. 3.What is Jedeja doing in the team if he doesnt bat well, he is in the team as an all rounder or more as a betsman and if he doesnt perform the duty well he should be thrown out & give chance to a full time bowler like Amith Mishra, Mohd Shami or a batsman like Raydu. Dhoni will have rethink about giving chance based on personal relationship. 4.Ravichandren ashwin is doing nothing in the team as a bowler but is being continued in the team since long time. there are other spinners like Pragyan Ohja who very well can spin the ball & get wickets better than Ashwin.Ashwin is being picked very easily by all the batsmans in the world.

  • on October 21, 2013, 6:05 GMT

    Indian's bowling attack always very good.but Ishant is not happy. Please .......

    Life + Love = Happy Life - Love = Sad 2 Life = Happy + Sad Life = ½ Happy +½ Sad

    Ishant Next Match You Work Hard Very Well.

    I Will Waite and watch.

    Set Goals which are attainable and which are practical and relevant .

    I love India Very Much.......... Stay Happy......

  • on October 21, 2013, 5:59 GMT

    Ask him to cut his hair, so that atleast he can see where and whom to bowl...

  • jango_moh on October 21, 2013, 5:46 GMT

    i really do think ishant has it in him to be a good test bowler, esp on friendly wickets, but i think he is not meant for odis or t20s... just my opinion!!!!

  • on October 21, 2013, 5:36 GMT

    ishant Sharma should nt been included in Indian team anymore, he doesn't deserve to be in Indian squad, we r seeing him from few months and he is the worst bowler of Indian team! look his bowling technique is also compact ! we need some chAnge , need to have some new bowlers like unadkat and shAmi in ranchi match unless then we r going to lose this series by 5-2

  • on October 21, 2013, 5:31 GMT

    Would someone be willing to assist a Yank who is learning more of Cricket every week? I don't know enough to understand Dhoni's comments. I want to become a serious student of the game.......I am really serious. I just don't understand what his point is. If you share with me I'll tell you how to throw a "back-up slider". Thanks in advance. from the USA state of Washington.

  • Sharath274 on October 21, 2013, 5:17 GMT

    I think the easiest thing to do in such scenario is post-mortem... with lots of ifs and buts... let me put in my view here.. I think India is just playing into aussies' strengths by ignoring their weakness...which is against good slow/spin bowling.. having 3 bowlers like B.Kumar, V.Kumar and Ishanth is only giving more and more opportunities for aussies to score... there is hardly any variety.. Bhuv.Kumar is much better in that he knows his limitations and bowls as per that.. Ishanth and Vinay are so much one-dimensional.. need variety and they cud try out Unadkat being a leftie..Drop one of the pacers and get MIshra in who was bowling at his best when given what ever opportunities.. if Dhoni feels due to the 2 new ball theory, it is needed to keep 3 faster guys, then Ashwin needs to be replaced with Mishra.. ther is no way he can be kept out, esp at a stage where he has bowled well...Ashwin needs to focus on his stock delivery and not try too much varitions...

  • Sugath on October 21, 2013, 5:08 GMT

    I do not think that for one moment even Dhoni should be spending time in the sphere of concern, but see how to expand the sphere of influence. In death bowling, it is about having an understanding of batsman psyche, is he a slogger, or is he one who plays the right strokes as per book and so forth. Then it is important have one to one chat with bowler, not just few words and ask him what he is going to do, tell him about the batsman, may be the keeper can come up to wicket with helmet on and prevent batsman from moving out of crease and so on. It is not about weak bowling or bowling fast as one could but be a thinking bowler, and make batsman think. If the bowler is cast in mould then easy for batsman.

  • on October 21, 2013, 4:55 GMT

    Indian's bowling attack always very poor then other nation cricket team.Indians bowlers don't know how bowl to batsman when their team need.They don't know you're cut bowling.If you saw last match,Ishant did not delivered any you're cut on his last over.Only Zaheer khan can you're cut bowling.I think in a such situation Indian's team need Zaheer khan types bowlers.

  • SauShar on October 21, 2013, 4:51 GMT

    I think saying that the 3rd ODI we have lost due to the 48th over of the match which is bowled by Ishant Sharma is stupendous, because the rest of the 47 overs were enough to consolidate the win in our favor. Though, Dhoni is quite right saying as "an off day for anyone", showing great maturity and belief in his players but at the same time this is also unacceptable when you are playing at the International level. As I said in my earlier comments that Dhoni's captaincy is under scrutiny in this series since most of the matches India have won in the past due to some good batting performances. The weakness of bowling and captaincy has been neglected due to some sensational batting performances by India. The captain's role actually comes into play while the team is fielding to see his strategies and game plan on the field. But, Dhoni is unable to prove in that area yet again and looked quite ordinary. Wake up MSD!!! Show your brilliance and make a difference unless it's too late.. Thanx!

  • on October 21, 2013, 4:47 GMT

    Dhoni could not manage the resorces he had. Why Ashwin was limited to 09 overs only. He started bowling at 28th over, Why is that? But kholi bowled one over for 18. Did he use his resources well?

  • on October 21, 2013, 4:39 GMT

    Indian's bowling attack always very poor then other nation cricket team.Indians bowlers don't know how bowl to batsman when their team need.They don't know you're cut bowling.If you saw last match,Ishant did not delivered any you're cut on his last over.Only Zaheer khan can you're cut bowling.I think in a such situation Indian's team need Zaheer khan types bowlers.

  • CherryWood_Champion on October 21, 2013, 4:39 GMT

    Well, first of my first reaction was why is Ishant being drafted time and again into the playing eleven. But Hats off to Dhoni ... he wants consistency and at the same time subtly reprimanded Ishant indirectly. These are traits of great leadership. I am sure Ishant over a period to time will learn the tricks to be successful. My only concern at this point of time is by not rotating the bowling stocks, we are becoming pretty Uni-Dimensional. I would like Dhoni to have a stock of bowling options by the time we are ready for the World cup in Australia and that can be accomplished only by playing your bowlers in a rotational policy.

  • on October 21, 2013, 4:39 GMT

    Well,,, the question can also be raised on Ashwin and Jadeja,,, They both did not performed as well,,, What is Mishra doing in stand?? Jadeja is in the team as a all rounder,, but he hardly contributed,,,,

    Basic question is on the quality of the pitch and not on bowlers,,,, All three matches,, 300 plus runs,,,, worst ever pitches in India,, its not doing any good to Indian bowlers and batsmen.

  • on October 21, 2013, 4:32 GMT

    For once Dhoni too is at fault. He is not keeping part-time bowlers like Raina, Rohit and Kohli in touch with bowling by giving them a few overs in every match. After so many matches, he brought in Kohli to bowl an over costing 18 runs. When a bowler like Ishant has not learned to bowl a yorker in all these years, how can he be used at the death?

  • theRule19 on October 21, 2013, 3:50 GMT

    The problem with Ishant is that he so one dimensional in his approach. No variations at all. All he does is that hit the deck stuff that the batsmen are so anticipative of. He gets way to predictable and its partly due to his action. With that kind of an action and the hair locks (which one would feel are a big obstruction) in viewing the batsmen's slight movements) he cannot quite focus on the line and length it seems. One more thing that all other Indian bowlers also need to work seriously on is yorkers with pace. During the death overs if all you can bowl is length balls..then you are only asking to be taken for heavy runs from the batsmen.

  • ashok1982 on October 21, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    Why India is going with 3 fast bowlers in home games i dont understand. They should opt for 3 slow bowlers to make it difficult for batsmen to score easily. India's stength is Spin bowling. Not pace.. and definitely not IshanthSharma...

  • Naseer on October 21, 2013, 3:49 GMT

    why there is so much hype about the weakness of Indian bowling attack, weak bowling has been their reputatoin since fairly long time, but in this and most of those series which are played in India, bowlers should not be blamed because asphalted pitches are prepared to favor the batsmen and produce big scores, and these pitches play very improtant role in giving the batsmen highiest level of superiroty over the bowlers, leave indian bowlers look at the Aus bowlers they have very good reputation, but they have concedded 300 twice in three matches and the chase in 2nd inning was the assualt that even India bowlers will be ashamed of. if you dont give even a little bit of seam, swing, spin etc how to you expect them to deliver for you, specially when you know bowling is your weak point, actually weak point is India's batting not bowling, therefor BCCI wants to protect them with such pitches, because it has seen batsmen performance outside sub contenient which is very very poor.

  • on October 21, 2013, 3:33 GMT

    poor ishant sharma..hope he will see this comments..and indians points of view plz bribg dale styen or morne morkel..lasith malinga.LOL.indian bowllers are good but each country know about there weakness beacause they ball lot in ipl...hope b kumar caree must end before next world cup..beacause i think ashwin and b kumar are most up coming bowllers in world cricket...cheers for ipl...aussies must thanks to ipl.

  • Philippe on October 21, 2013, 3:31 GMT

    Indians r awesome. they say wenever sachin scores century they loose.....on the same logic in this match all the blame is put on ishant sharma alone. If batting pitch was so good then score should have been atleast 50 runs more. India wil never be no. 1 team & they will be worried how they r going to face world class bowlers in next world cup to be held in aus NZ & not on flat tracks like India whr anyone can make a century or score 30 odd runs in an over. Most of the Indian batsmen r flat track masters including dhoni, jadeja, raina etc. barring kohli only.

  • vijayNaidu on October 21, 2013, 3:24 GMT

    BCCI is decided to retained the same team that's good sign for team members. But i don't understand why Jaydev Unadkat & Mishra not getting a chance to play. My concern here is out of top 7 Aussies batsman 6 are right hand so definitely the both players can give a real trouble for right hand batsman.

  • cricketIND on October 21, 2013, 3:20 GMT

    I totally agree with "Insult_2_Injury" comments...

  • landl47 on October 21, 2013, 3:19 GMT

    I find Dhoni's comments to be a very sad reflection on the way the shorter-format game is developing. Read it again: there's not one word in it about how bowlers can help their side to win by taking wickets. The only reference to wickets being taken is backwards- Dhoni points out that losing wickets (which might as well be by force of nature as by the bowlers' skill for all the attention it is given) doesn't necessarily slow down the scoring rate. His conclusion, therefore, seems to be that taking wickets isn't that important.

    If cricket becomes merely a contest as to which side can score the fastest and bowlers are judged only on economy rates, the inherent tension of the game is lost. Great bowlers will be replaced by bowlers who don't take wickets but are hard to score off. Ishant is being blamed not because he didn't take enough wickets but because he gave away too many runs. Yadav is not in the squad because his economy rate isn't good enough. Why? He bowls too fast.

  • MelbourneMiracle on October 21, 2013, 3:18 GMT

    The biggest problem for India is that Dhoni believes in his luck & instinct too much which is backed by former Indian Cricketers, BCCI and the Indian public.

  • KrishG on October 21, 2013, 3:03 GMT

    Dont need to spoon-feed captains too. It is not one bad over from Ishant. It has been more than hundred bad overs in the last one year. Dhoni has been persisting with him, keeping other talented players in the bench. Dhoni is building personal loyalty at the cost of the country. What is the coach saying?

  • on October 21, 2013, 2:41 GMT

    Dhoni is dead right when he talks about the problems Indian bowlers are having with the death overs. What is surprising though is that its been a very long time since the problem has persisted. In the death overs especially, a bowler must be very clear about what he is attempting to do- does he want to go with a full length outside off with a packed off side field or target the batsmen toes. Those two tactics are still the most effective. That mixed with some change of pace and the odd short ball to keep the batsmen honest also allows for the fielding captain to put the limited fielding resources on the fence in the right positions. Just running in and putting it anywhere will not work. However do we have the personnel to deliver this is another question. The full yorker length tactic needs a bit of pace to be effectively executed as well. India need to find at least two such bowlers among the likes of Umesh, Zak, Ishant, Aaron etc who can do this on a consistent basis.

  • arby182 on October 21, 2013, 2:31 GMT

    I personally feel it was bad captaincy on the part of Dhoni not to have tried his part time bowlers like Raina & Rohit Sharma who have taken wickets before. Australians are known to be weak in playing spin & yet Raina & Rohit Shrma were not tried out. To give the ball to Virat Kohli was fool hardy. Besides, I wonder what is being done to improve our bowlers in practicing death bowling. Dhoni has been moaning frequently about our lack of death bowling skills yet nothing is being done. We should engage a bowling coach to make the fast bowlers practice yorkers & other death bowling skills.

  • ProdigyA on October 21, 2013, 2:19 GMT

    I see a lot of Pak fans commenting about how bad Indian bowlers are, trying to show sympathy and making merry. Yeah, you have a chance but that does not mean you have to dance. Dont forget that Pak recently lost to Zim that too in a test match.

  • Insult_2_Injury on October 21, 2013, 2:18 GMT

    Who's Dhoni kidding? He's throwing out the "don't offend the bosses' line. It's actually batsmen being spoon fed. The average Indian ground is lightening quick and even if bowlers bowl yorkers a batsman jams down on a ball which squirts into a gap and it is immediately 4. Nobody doubts that bad bowling deserves to be punished, but a bowler having a bad over gets no protection from the rules. Let's face it Ishant had a bad over or two, but on small grounds and no fielding options, he can still bowl a good over and go for 20. It doesn't matter what length the bowler bowls, batsmen now know they can swing from the ring because their is no ball movement in latter overs to make them wary, regardless of two balls. The rewards outweigh the risks, with batsmen knowing their heavy club will more often than not clear the mandatory infield and it's a certain boundary.

    Bowlers don't deserve humiliation because the rules and playing conditions have been changed to produce scores over 300.

  • on October 21, 2013, 1:59 GMT

    sometime it happen remember the champion trophy final ishant was the bowler who won the big trophy for india

  • on October 21, 2013, 0:53 GMT

    India's Bowling has bee a problem. yet, it doesn't seem like they are working on that problem to resolve it. give a chance to different bowlers , reserves there are many good reserves yet they don't get a chance and we can't tell if they are going to be very damaging against a specific team or not. ( like Australia right now )

  • jigsb007 on October 21, 2013, 0:42 GMT

    "Dhoni is worried about death bowling...", in fact we all should be worried by his ill-formed insistence of keeping the same side. A fantastic knock by the man himself let the fans down by his arrogance of not making team changes when they are truly seriously required. Jaydev is a fantastic bowler almost the same mold as match winner Ashish Nehra, hate to seen him on the bench when the likes of Ishant getting fried on a regular basis. And how many chances Jadeja and even Ashwin will continue to get when we have a real match winner in the form of Amit Mishra warming the bench. I would be sorely pissed if I was Amit Mishra and not get a chance in the remaining games.

    Dhoni, please stop mucking around. If you really want an all rounder, the toss up should be between Ashwin and Jadeja and Amit Mishra should be an automatic choice.

    My side for the remaining matches - Ishant and Ashwin / Jadeja out - Jaydev Unadkat and Amit Mishra in.

    And well played Australia and Mr Faulkner.

  • on October 21, 2013, 0:09 GMT

    Faulkner had been part of three IPL Teams (1) Kings XI Panjab, (2) Pune Warriors, and (3) Rajasthan Royals. Based on three different regions; on three different grounds, day in and day out for three months, over several IPL matches! It is RR under the leadership of Dravid, which let Faulkner bloom in Indian Conditions. Faulkner not only knows the Indian conditions, but also knows the Indian bowlers inside out. No wonder, he thought that he may get out if he tries to hit out at Ashwin indiscriminately. And, also that Ishant is easy meat. He would have tried the same tactic against Vinay too, since Oz had a few more wickets in hand. Moreover a batsman can use most pacers' pace to let the balls fly over the ropes! That is why many pace bowlers bowls yorkers and slow balls in the death overs. None of the three pacers in the Indian team was proficient in either. And, the next batsman Mitch Johnson can also hit big! Which decent end-game batsmen will miss that chance?

  • on October 20, 2013, 23:45 GMT

    Really cant see the logic of picking Ishant. At the death bowlers need skills to appy, such as slower balls, yorkers, slower bouncers, delivery behind bowling crease. These skills need to be developed during practise, so that the bowler is confident during application.

  • MinusZero on October 20, 2013, 23:32 GMT

    One would have to assume Sharma was not bowling yorkers or slower balls. Its worth a try.

  • KapilsDevils1983 on October 20, 2013, 22:15 GMT

    Ishant bowled appallingly sure, but we don't need to tear him apart. Yes he should be dropped, but there is little sense in being vindictive. Cricket is a game at the end of the day.

  • on October 20, 2013, 21:19 GMT

    We got the combination of a very good batting line up and really feel sorry bowling line up!! Cant see any genuine fast bowler in the making. Tough to complain anyone here.

  • TrueFactors on October 20, 2013, 21:04 GMT

    First of all, I just can't believe the way Indian bowlers have bowled and Dhoni's bowlers choice and rotation. Finch and Hughes prefer balls either out-going balls or, those balls stay outside on or off. They are not able to play proper cutters and in-swingers. B Kumar is a good in-swing and off-cutter bowler. Even Ishant was a good in-swinger. They are not able to swing it at all. Dhoni should ask Ashwin to open ball with B Kumar. Ask Kohli to get more control on line-length in nets. Both Jadeja and Yuvi should bowl during 15-45 overs in breaks. Save Jadeja's 2 overs for death since he can dart with better line-length and surprise spin, which is great at end. Short balls at death or by spinners is a sin. As third seamer, India need someone like Cronje (RSA), or Cooper (WI/IPL-RR), a military medium who can throw yorkers at will. 20-20 or 50-50 matches are not for speed-stars, they are helping smart bowlers. Every pacer must throw one yorker in a over.

  • Biggest_Cricket_Fan on October 20, 2013, 20:55 GMT

    I am not here to comment about how bad Ishant bowled THE over. If Dhoni is saying he can not spoon feed bowlers, can he not at least help them. We all saw what he was doing during that over. He should have at least walked upto Ishant and consoled him. When things have fired back at him he is running away from resposibliity. Also no word about great Ashwin. He is just a liability for the team and looks like person with 0 IQ for the batsman.

  • m_ilind on October 20, 2013, 20:24 GMT

    Mr. Dhoni keeps complaining about the death overs bowling, and yet does not nothing to resolve the issue. How does picking the same bowlers (read Ishant) help?

  • on October 20, 2013, 20:07 GMT

    I find it amaizing why all the blame is given to ishant, well ofcourse he had a bad over but still to get 14 of 12, the match could have been more down to the wire than a finish with a six, ishant just made the a bit more interesting. Still indian bowling dept have always been week, have to admit that.

  • TRAM on October 20, 2013, 19:31 GMT

    @Srinivas Pachari, You dont bowl for wkts all the time. Ashwin will take wkts provided the pitch helps at least 10%. So is any bowler. Whether pace or spin, there should be *something* helping either the pitch or the atmosphere (moisture). Here, the conditions were that only real pace bowler can take wickets (145-150 kmph). Not medium pace bowlers (120-135). Not spinners. That is why except MJ no one else succeeded. It would be totally UNFAIR to expect Ashwin or any spinners or medium pacers to take wkts in this pitch. In fact the boundaries hit of Ashwin this match and the prev match was BECAUSE he was going for wkts (which is why he flighted many and got hit. Not that I am supporting his rank bad balls). Once he realized that and bowled for containment, he was good in that. Where as Jadeja ALWAYS bowls for containment. The same was needed from medium pacers as well. They had to bowl intelligently and deceive batsmen and reduce the runs which Indian medium pacers could not do.

  • on October 20, 2013, 19:14 GMT

    I Think this is International level and it is sad and remorseful that India Cannot have a pool of ten bowlers (Fast Bowlers) and Ten spin bowlers. Batting in our own den is good, all n every indian knows about it. IT is the pathetic selection with bowlers, first it depends on money then recommendation at last it comes to religion, it is again pathetic Indian policies time and again. With all of these tactics, India needs to grow up and make changes in selection policies. very pathetic....learn from countries who play only for 6 months and have pretty good bowlers, who have a head on their shoulders...thats what happens when you select players on recommendation and jacked up basis....pity India.....

  • icemankimi on October 20, 2013, 18:41 GMT

    People should try to understand the agony of the captain here. The team is in a wonderful situation. And here comes the bowler with most bowling experience in the team, bowls the same six hitting deliveries again and again, you just can't place a field for those deliveries. Seriously this should be curtains for Ishant, simply because he's saved by some lucky wickets in previous games. Send him back to the MRF Pace academy. Bring back ZAK or Umesh Yadav. Atleast they have their own variety rather than just keep on bowling like a bowling machine.

  • on October 20, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    kindly give a chance to reserves

  • on October 20, 2013, 18:39 GMT

    this is the india's worst bolwing line up ...

  • on October 20, 2013, 18:35 GMT

    @TRAM and others who are wondering why Ashwin should be sacked from the team - The reason why people are asking for Ashwin's head if you really, really do not know, is he wasted his 10 overs by thinking of containment instead of wickets. His primary job in the team is primarily to take wickets. Anything else is just a bonus. I am 100% surprised that even when Faulkner and Voges were playing he was bowling negative line being selfish. Jadeja's (as an all rounder) job is to contain batsmen which he did perfectly. If Ashwin had attacked and taken wickets Ishant would not look this bad. Dhoni should relook his tactics which will spoil the team sooner or later. What I mean is 1. Rohit seems comfortable in IPL but not international is because he is not an opener. 2. Ashwin/Mishra/Chawla/Harbhajan whoever plays should primarily look for wickets as they are strike weapons. 3. Rains should play as a hitter after Dhoni, as attacking is what he does best.

  • TRAM on October 20, 2013, 17:18 GMT

    I cant believe people are asking for Ashwin's head. He bowled superbly in the last spell. He kept pushing the Aus' asking rate higher and higher. Here is the proof in Last overs: Ov41:RRR= 9.60:Ashwin: 5runs Ov42:RRR=10.11:BKumar: 3runs+1W Ov43:RRR=11.00:Ashwin: 5runs Ov44:RRR=11.85:BKumar: 9runs (BKumar's last) Ov45:RRR=12.33:Ashwin: 8runs Ov46:RRR=13.20:VKumar:14runs Ov47:RRR=13.00:Ashwin: 8runs Ov48:RRR=14.66:Ishrma:30runs Ov49:RRR= 7.00:Ashwin: 5runs Ov50:RRR= 9.00:VKumar: 9runs in 3 balls!!!

    Dhoni did the perfect thing sealing one end with Ashwin. At the end of 47th Ov by Ashwin, any bowling team would back up RRR=14.66 rpo in the last 3. Well no one can set field for 4x6. Match over after ISharma's 30 runs. After that, 14 off 2 ov OR 9 off 1 ov is difficult to stop with just 4 fielders out of the ring. BAD BAD NEW RULES. A better bowler than VKumar would have bowled perfect yorkers in Ov 50 and fought. But that was not the case.

  • sony_sr on October 20, 2013, 17:15 GMT

    A bowler with 6 years experience can't bowl one yorker??? Also whats the bowling coach doing???

  • on October 20, 2013, 17:11 GMT

    Disagree with Dhoni, When a bolwer is in a bad form, n he is under Huge Pressure, Captain Should help him come out of it. If he doesn't do that, there is no point in calling him CAPTAIN COOL! Why keeping Ashwin for the end when he is in bad form? Dhoni knows well that our death bowling is poor, so why not try Jaddu at the end, he is bowling quicker through the air and he will be a good option. Don't just blame Ishant.

  • prakash_mishra on October 20, 2013, 17:02 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is the latest scapegoat among Indian supporters and media alike.l But the whole discussion about a bowler not being worth of international standards has not been too new as far as I can remember.Time and again we happen to see a new seamer coming up with some promise,some talent,some pace and lots of hype. But as the year passes by the spark,the pace,and most importantly the mystery is lost somewhere, and the transformation of the poor Indian seamer from talented to average to woeful has become so regular that it now sounds like a cliche when one says that this particular Indian seamed did not do justice to his own talents and the exposure he was provided with. I know it sounds sad and pessimistic to say this at the moment, but right now there is no immediate solution to this crisis.May be with time if state cricket boards and THE GREAT BCCI can come up with some solution (question is what) and try to resolve this crisis.The big brains on the table,Time to think folks!!

  • Leggie on October 20, 2013, 16:59 GMT

    Even having 10 fielders outside the circle may not have prevented Ishant leaking 30 runs. The fact was that Faulkner was able to predict Ishant better (yes, in ODIs in such situations batsman also try to predict the line and length and plan their onslaught!!). The problem is on two fronts.. a) Ishant as a bowler is a shadow of himself ever since being troubled by ankle surgeries. He appears to lack confidence and always appears as though he is very unlucky. b) Ishant's strength is bowling "in the right areas" (read it as bowling almost the same line & length with subtle variations) and not varying his pace and length. He is fundamentally not an ODI or T20 bowler. Point (a) can be corrected with the help of a good bowling coach, but for (b) Ishant himself has to take a call if he wants to play to his strengths or give in for money/fame. Both Ishant and BCCI can well take a leaf out of the ECB that turned around Broad's career despite that 36 run over vs Yuvraj.

  • ThatsJustCricket on October 20, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    Frankly, the only silver lining that can come up from this result is if the team management finally dumps Ishant for good.

  • on October 20, 2013, 16:43 GMT

    I think indian bowlers should learn some Toe Crushers from world's best death Bowler Slinger Malinga.

  • Mehool_Sarkar on October 20, 2013, 16:41 GMT

    Losing and Winning is part of the game but Dhoni remember that James Faulkner is not specialist batsman.. He just play 16 ODI & only TEST... While Ishant already played 51 TEST & more than 100 ODI... So why continue playing bowler like Ishant Sharma.. He must to drop from Indian team.

  • Iceman29 on October 20, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    The current bowling attack is a national shame for us right now...Where is Varun Aaron for God's sake...this is the problem with the selectors if any player is out with an injury for long they will forget about him and move on...selectors should learn from countries like Aus and Eng...they back their players and give chances to them if they are are fit to play after a long gap...we should not loose Umesh/Varun...

  • on October 20, 2013, 16:04 GMT

    i dont understand y dhoni always give 1 or 2 overs to virat kohli??? its always been a big mess..i understand that sometimes u need to buy wickets through part timers. but y virat kohli?? i never saw him took any wicket..when dhoni handed him the ball i felt that now its the time to get some boom boom from the batting side..(and mostly it does) i know that indian bowling line is weak but india have other options like Suresh Raina..in my opinion he is far much better option than kohli, y dhoni under estimate Raina? current indian bowling line up seems much weaker than previous..ishant should be dropped and Ashwin should stick with basis rather trying to take wickets he should try to restrict and act as a supporting bowler..dont try anything new...jadeja and vinay kumar will be more effective if other bowlers try to restrict runs..bhuvneshwar kumar should act as a leading bowler and bowl wicket to wicket..,good luck for both teams, may the best team wins the series regards from Pakistan.

  • glen1 on October 20, 2013, 15:59 GMT

    Give the ball to anyone who has never bowled and give him some simple instructions: (a) walk three steps, (b) don't cross the line, and (c) bowl to the batsman with a round arm action. The maximum he can give away is 36. Now look at Ishanth, he has been bowling for 20 years and gives away 30 runs! He could have changed pace, run just a few steps instead of the long stride, and delivered some smart balls and given twelve to eighteen runs, instead of 30. Dhoni was expecting the same Champions' Trophy magic; wont happen in a less stressful match and on Indian pitches. India needs smart bowlers not fast bowlers; especially ones with wayward deliveries.

  • siddhartha87 on October 20, 2013, 15:54 GMT

    sixes can't be stopped even you let 10 fielders outside circle. This is pathetic bowling. As simple as that

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:52 GMT

    well I think it's the use of bowlers how the captain uses it.. Kumble uses Ishant well and he got a respectable position. Dhoni have to leave his nature of playing gamble else it will be bad for him. i have seen his decision from the first victory since south africa though he is getting success but this is luck and luck will not always favor you.. he knows that it very well as he made such statement in past..

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:39 GMT

    Zaheer Khan is a good option for bowling in death overs.. he bowled the perfect yorker length delivery which is required at last

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:32 GMT

    Every bowler can have a bad day i think ! i think irfan pathan is needed in the team so far batting wickets everywhere too much runs in every game !

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:30 GMT

    India missing a genuine spinner in all formats..it was India's prime weapon in home series. Now the visiting spinners are more effecive in India against Indian batsmen. BCCI/coach/captain should realise this. Now these peoples are not able to change the team combination. Aswin is below average bowler when compared with Swan/Naraine etc. Thambe is better than him at 42. Amit Misra is better. Why Ishant get chance in this game? The selectors already agreed to retain this team before today? Now they will give chance to other bowlers. After 5-6 wickets spinners should put pressure on the batsmen, this was the strategy adopted in earlier decades by India. It is captains resposibility to grip the jaws, for that some times he has to spoon feed or bottle feed if the bowler is not delivering.

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:26 GMT

    Dhoni has a bigger plan. I remember Dhoni sticking his head out to include Yuvraj for the 2011 world cup when there was a lot of opinion to drop him. All this basically training for the 2015 world cup. Dhoni - if he really wants - can make India win any game. All these games are more of a try-outs for the real deal.

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:22 GMT

    @Shaji Joseph , good observation. The field placement was not the issue as these were big sixes.

    SRH knew Ishant is not good for death bowling, and they seldom used him at death. If Dhoni wants to persist with him, and he is very likely to do, his overs must be used up as soon as possible.

    India needs to discover death bowling options. I was just wondering if the Australians feared Ashwin that much, why was he not used instead.

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:10 GMT

    We have heard so much about poor bowling in the death overs. Is it so difficult to coach our bowlers to produce a few yorkers when required. It cannot be a big task to bowl at the legs of the batsmen where they are unable to free up and launch for sixes. If Malinga can do it, so should our bowlers. Take note, Fletcher, Venkatesh Prasad et al.

  • on October 20, 2013, 15:03 GMT

    What is Yuvi doing and what sort of a come back is it, he has a week batsman against good fast and spin bowling proved by all means. He has failed to cope with the fast bowlers of Australia time and again.

  • on October 20, 2013, 14:58 GMT

    Don't worry India will bounce back! And this time Ishant will be man of the match! Keep calm and believe in Ishant!

  • aahahaa on October 20, 2013, 14:29 GMT

    @KingOwl rightly said. with the advent of T20 and the skewed rules favoring batsmen every team fancies itself to score at 10-12 an over at the finish nowadays. that aside, Ishant and Vinay would find it difficult to get into any other team.

  • on October 20, 2013, 14:18 GMT

    This loss has nothing to do with the four fielders out side the circle rule. When the self proclaimed spearhead bowls like this even if you can place 9 fielders on the fence he will leak 30 runs- unless you have fielders who can leap 10 metres up and catch the 90 metre sixes. In a way it is fair that Aus won and also it bodes well for India if Ishant sharma has played his last ODI. Fair, because Aus had two dubious lbws against them, plus the drop of Dhoni made them chase 30 more. they were winning at all stages if it were a 270 chase. Unfaior on Dhoni, who played the innings of the match ( he had to hit good balls for 4s and 6s unlike the offerings Faulker had). But he has the power to get rid of the awful Ishant earlier if he wanted to, he didn't. Bite the bullet now..

  • ADARSH100 on October 20, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    This series will be remembered for the fantastic batting display by olayers from both the teams. All the matches including T20 have been high scoring and have seen even a larger total can be chased down easily. In this series, cricket is described as BAT vs BAT contest so far. Its highly entertaining right now but that doesnot help in long run. Actually the team management and bowlers are not looking forward to take 10 wickets of the opponent. They just go with the approach that " We will bowl 50 overs, You score as you like and We will show our batting strength to chase that down". More or less it is killing the real spirit of cricket and bowlers are underestimated. The team should have a strategy of taking 10 wickets of their opponents and all bowlers should work for it, rather than finishing their qouta of overs.

  • KingOwl on October 20, 2013, 14:13 GMT

    I am not sure whether death bowling is getting worse or death hitting is getting better, due to the batsmen friendly wickets, short boundaries and T20 innovations in particular.

  • Iceman29 on October 20, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    @Mitty2: do you expect every Indian in this forum to post comments praising Aus...whats wrong with you...buddy your team should have chased this total with ease given the fact that we had a pathetic bowling...its our bowling that gave away the match..Were everyone praising Ind when we chased 360 runs with 5 overs to spare? i dont think so..all I read was how bad the pitch was and comments which were just bashing the pitches and team India....Having said that faulkner is a real find for Aussies...he is an perfect allrounder...

  • ADARSH100 on October 20, 2013, 14:06 GMT

    Losing and Winning is part of the game. A bowler wont b always in the prime form. Ishanth is definetly in a bad form right now,he has to be replaced but that doesnt mean that he cannot be considered as a bowler as some of my fellow mates say. There will be surely a bad patch for any players during their career. As Dhoni says a bowler in International Level cant b spoonfed. All bowlers should look at their strengths rather than aping other bowlers. In last match, I saw Ishanth and Vinay trying many short balls like Aussie bowlers do.I felt that was a type of aping done by them believing that they can rattle Aussies like they rattled India. Such things must be stopped and should have confidence about their strengths and be well aware of situations and weaknesses.

  • Night-Watchman on October 20, 2013, 13:47 GMT

    Dhonis best option was to go with Yuvraj Singh at that point when he brought in Ishant. Jadeja had such miserly figures that another bowler of the same ilk would have kept down the scoring rate. In a game of Chess, it can be said that he misread the endgame!

  • Desihungama on October 20, 2013, 13:40 GMT

    I support Pakistan and as a former bowler who has played competitive cricket I strongly feel Ishant needs to get rid of fluff on top of his head which are his hair and get rid of gold chains around your neck. These are hindrances if you are running up to bowl. Now, as per tactics, I think Ishant could placed a fielder at short mid wicket and another at deep mid wicket and should have bowled good length on the leg side. At most, batsmen would have run for two on every ball but that's still only 12 runs per over. This is very poor from Ishant. Where was Dhoni? What was he doing and not helping Ishant?

  • asithaSL on October 20, 2013, 13:28 GMT

    India badly missing Zahear Khan or even Pathan... Current Indian team with no left arm pace bowler, it's something they had every time...

  • heathrf1974 on October 20, 2013, 13:25 GMT

    I actually feel for Ishant. I don't think he bowled too badly. Faulkner was just in a Dhoni zone.

  • ROXSPORT on October 20, 2013, 13:23 GMT

    @ TheBigBoodha: Yeah, Faulkner got whacked too, but he is not a specialist bowler. Johnson and McKay are. And, guess what? Their economy rate is 4.8 for yesterdays' match, almost half that of Ishant Shrma, the big fast Indian bowling hope. And, Faulkner contributes by way of batting, fielding AND taking wickets. Ishant??? Sorry, on all three counts.

  • on October 20, 2013, 13:22 GMT

    In the light of this match and the evident need for India to find some death bowlers isn't it a shame that the commentators are not even allowed to discuss alternatives as they are barred from talking about selection (Warne tried to raise the topic during the second game but Ganguly was having none of it).

  • on October 20, 2013, 13:20 GMT

    quicks get major assistance from new ball. Get ur quicks to bowl majority of their overs 7-8 overs inside the first 25 overs. Spin, under old rule came into play after 15th over. With 2 new balls, it will be the 30th over when ball is about 15 overs old. So ideally spin should come into play after the 25 th over. The older ball should allow them to get some grip and turn. Bk kumar, sandeep sharma and shami ahmed can also be used in powerplay overs to bowl cutters with the ball starting to grip, making slogging more dificult. But major role at the death will be played by spin. As the ball gets older it will start to spin more. remember the ball by 40th over is 20 overs old, which is when spinners played a major role under the old rule.

  • on October 20, 2013, 13:16 GMT

    I am supporting Austrailia but really very disappointed in Dhoni. Now he is making negative comments on his bowlers, espeacially Ishant, but why did he give them more overs knowing that they are not proving worth it. The new cricket field laws will remain laws, they wont change their shape and using it as an excuse is very lame. Why not using Yuvraj, Raina or bringing in Karthik and often take the ball himself? It seems obvious that never often using them will be an advantage as the opposition not used to playing against them. My opinion is that Dhoni has the CT2013 final's image in his mind of Ishant becoming the hero from zero! Then why retaining Ishant now for the upcoming four?

  • vaidyar on October 20, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    Why does MSD come across as an annoying manager who can only find faults and not come up with any solutions? Of course he can't spoon-feed, but are there any equivalent levels his bowlers have come through? And these rule changes are also new, and every bowler, irrespective of country is getting belted all around. Also, when you know Ishant Sharma has issues bowling in the death overs, why hold him for that 48th? Also, what was Kohli doing, bowling? Ashwin ended up with 9 overs, was there need for a Kohli over? At some point Dhoni has to take the criticism for his team's bowling, and his management of them and can't keep deflecting it. He's not the captain of just the batting, the bowling unit is not an independent unit. All 3 bowlers are younger and they don't have a mentor like Zak. Take it easy and stick up for them, mate!

  • T20or50ODI on October 20, 2013, 13:12 GMT

    I think bigger boundaries and not having powerplay restrictions at the end of the innings is the answer to this.

    To make it entertaining to watch isnt just seeing the amount of runs a single batsmen make... the most important part I get from watching limited overs cricket are the direct run outs

  • bouncer709 on October 20, 2013, 13:08 GMT

    Even I think Ishant Sharma is not a good bowler, but still I can't understand why people cursing him, did this happened to a bowler first time? Is Ishant a first bowler in cricket history to gave away too many runs in one over, this is cricket and this happen to all the bowlers, even top class bowlers too, and specially on Indian pitches any body can come under fire. In last match India chased 360 in 44 overs, now people should digest if Australia chased a comparatively less target.

  • on October 20, 2013, 12:59 GMT

    why didnt he say this thing when india chased 359???....Dhoni a man of excuses!!!

  • fairgame149 on October 20, 2013, 12:55 GMT

    Dhoni's handling of fast bowlers is nothing short of abysmal be it on the field or in press conferences. Fast bowlers are at their best when their adrenaline is flowing and the good captains make sure that it is when they get the ball in their hands. Countless stinging one liners come to mind which were used by great captains like Ian Chappell, Lloyd and Imran to get their quicks charged up. Dhoni's methodical and almost impassive style can only inspire batsmen or spinners. If a fast bowler of merit ever emerges in his reign it will be despite him rather than because of him.

  • on October 20, 2013, 12:47 GMT

    Zaheer Khan, Irfan pathan, Dinda, Parveen kumar, yadav, Mohit Sharma, Shami should be given chance ..... Ishant is in his worst form currently he needed to be dropped for an year atleast... Vinay Kumar is also unimpressive.... Bowling a full toss to faulkner in the last over was very shocking and unacceptable.....

  • Charlie101 on October 20, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Virtually the whole Aussie team is playing in the IPL and are now very familiar with Sub continental pitches in short format games. I do not see this as an Ishant problem but more the future of what will happen in the years ahead especially with the changes to the laws in the subcontinent. The Aussie team are almost at home on this surface as the indian team.

  • Siva_Bala75 on October 20, 2013, 12:43 GMT

    Since ODIs are taking the T20 flavour, consider Balaji who has been the best IPL Indian pacer. People like Unadkat, Md Shami or Umesh Yadav will be more of the same.

  • mjrvasu on October 20, 2013, 12:40 GMT

    Dhoni finds fault with his bowlers, fine. He made also negative comments about part-time bowlers. But did he really call on a decent part-timer like Raina, Rohit? Or did he make good use of Yuvraj? Something wrong with Dhoni these days, looks to losing interest as a captain, although his batter is still dazzling. Maybe time for him to play as a batsman in the side and hand over captaincy to someone else.

  • on October 20, 2013, 12:33 GMT

    where is the change of pace, slow bowls and change of angle. At this level if ur the spearhead of the bowling attack then you should be doing this. but in ishants case he needs to take time out and rethink what hes bowling. he needs to watch wasim akram ambrose walsh y.younis zaheer khan and how they bowler at the death.

  • shrastogi on October 20, 2013, 12:29 GMT

    Its plain simple ridiculous to see Dhoni defending bowlers becaus eof the new rule of only 4 fielders outside the circle. Didi Ishant concede runs because of this reason ? He would have needed fielders in crowd on almost any ground to defend the sort of deliveiries he bowled in the over. He wasnt using his brains at all. With his experience Ishant should have bolwed a lot better. Anyways since he is in the team for next 4 one dayers also aussies must be having a field day. Are we this short of pace bowling talent in our country ?

  • on October 20, 2013, 12:24 GMT

    You cant blame the rule, first you have to improve your bowling. You dont have even a single specialist bowler to defend a score like over 300.

  • on October 20, 2013, 12:23 GMT

    dear dhoni the best captain please through ishant out of the team

  • TheBigBoodha on October 20, 2013, 12:17 GMT

    It has to be said the pitches play a big part in the problem. They have been very easy batting strips. Yeah, Ishant bowled way too short. But Dhoni whacked Faulkner too. Nobody's is saying Faulker shouldn't bowl again.

    Having said that, Ishant has been very poor. More Yorkers and short of a length stuff wold at least make the batsman work for his runs.

  • on October 20, 2013, 12:16 GMT

    There is no point in blaming dhoni or ashwin for this...before india was saved by his spin bowling mostly even he is lot better than jadeja in risk situations...he can bat too...moreover as dhoni said he can't do sponn feed for all bowlers they have to work hard in some areas in which they do mistake always.Vinay kumar is unwanted to the team,if you see all these bowlers are most wicket takers in ipl series where their form goes when coming to 50 overs match...In this situation we can easily criticize one batsman or bowlers and we won't know the work of play...Better we hav to change the bowlers in next match.Chance to be given for umesh,shami and praveen kumar or current form players who shines in t20 series

  • ashhad.iqbal on October 20, 2013, 12:13 GMT

    There are so many domestic players...shahbaz nadeem..he has been performing very well in the domestic format and even performed good against s.africa A and westindies A....he is been one of the most economical bowler in the last two consecutive ipl and even matches against s africa A and westindies A team...he was even appriciated in the challenger trophy aswel...so a emerging player like nadeem should be given chance as soon as possible so as to boost up his confidence...so our respected selectors should look at him...

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:56 GMT

    dear MS do you think it really means for ishant to have a fifth fielders on the boundry...he needs fielders in the crowd. stop defending him he is no more than an ordinary stuff on indian pitches....

  • Iceman29 on October 20, 2013, 11:54 GMT

    @MianMoosa: I completely agree with your point..its upto the selectors to find good fast bowlers and include in the squad...the entry for an fast bowler is almost impossible with the current captain and the selectors..

    1. First the selctors are not picking the right squad...there are lots of fast bowlers and spinners in India who have performed well in IPL still the selectors are not giving chances to them....

    2.Even if any new bowler is included in the squad by chance Dhoni will not give chance for them in the playing 11....he is very adamant and arrogant in team selection....thats wat costing India matches...

    Hope this defeat will wake up the selectors and Dhoni for God's sake.....

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:52 GMT

    Dear all cricket lovers, let me tell you that it was not Ishant's fault, it was Dhoni who gifted the game to Australia by giving the ball to Kohli. I think Kohli's over brought Aussies back to the game and then Ishant was the victim of Faulkner for some real clean hits.

  • fr600 on October 20, 2013, 11:52 GMT

    India have some amazing batsmen but I don't understand how India got to #1 with this kind of rubbish bowling lineups.

  • DeepsB on October 20, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    Shocking bowler!! This guy can not bowl, field or hold a bat! I cant understand why he is continued to be selected! Other Indian bowlers must be pulling their hair out to why they are continued to be overlooked for this poor excuse of a cricketer!! I refuse to watch this guy I can not take much more!!!!

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:50 GMT

    Guys dont forget his Champions trophy heroics!

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:42 GMT

    Yesterday after the match, i was watching videos of a so called BAD bowler, who has not featured in India's international plans since 2007. Woooo he was the only Indian i have seen for a long time who can bowl those toe crushing inswinging yorkers at death and those beautiful away swingers at the begining on the innings...unfortunately he retired last week...Will miss u Ajit Agarkar...Please teach these young Indian pacers how to bowl yorkers...

  • VJGS on October 20, 2013, 11:36 GMT

    All the people bashing MSD for giving Ishant an over, please tell me what other fast bowling option does he have? Ishant is the senior-most pacer, who is expected to be the spearhead. Do you think Unadkat would be able to bowl in the death? Especially considering his experience and a bowling speed of 120 kmph? Or do you want to give Shami Ahmed (Munaf Patel's twin brother) a chance? He is probably the easiest to target with his slow and straight deliveries with no variations. What bothers me even more is that the selection panel is not willing to give Dhoni another bowling spearhead... not even Umesh Yadav

  • Mitty2 on October 20, 2013, 11:35 GMT

    That's right India and Dhoni, keep on not giving credit to the other team.

  • Nandu_Athadu on October 20, 2013, 11:29 GMT

    Guys.your prayers will not be answered by Dhoni of dropping Ishanth, Ashwin, Vinay..he will still continue with these toothless bowlers..yes it is good infact great quality of a Leader to back a batsman or a bowler when he is down.but at the same time those players need to show some signs of improvement..which i dont see in our fast bowlers...Buvi is OK and he needs support from other bowlers..Ishanth - I cant remember a single season in which he was consistent, he was good only for 10% of his bowling quota..Ashwin - Batsman these days are playing him cautiously and he need come up with alternative way to take wickets, this is a sign of great bowler..Vinay - the less said about him is better for all of us...I ll not be surprised to see if the same team is picked for the remaining series..The comments from Dhoni are expected..he will back SOME players for a long period and once in a blue moon they shine and it gives us the impression that it is the result of backing them...Phewww...

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:22 GMT

    Only now have I fully understood why people always say that he is an unlucky bowler. Thats right, you need to be extremely unlucky to keep getting selected, inspite of your underperformance, and keep getting tonked.

    After each six he concedes, there arises an expression of desperation in his face that is asking the team management and the selectors "What more should I do to get dropped?".

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:13 GMT

    How many time Dhoni i'll defend his bolwers. For past one year Ishant has perform very badly in every format of game right frm T20,Test and in ODI still he is in team. Mr.Dhoni pls give ur explanation on this? Iindia does not have pace bolwers any more....

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:12 GMT

    Let the real bowlers play Mr.Dhoni.This is Indian team for god's sake,not CSK.Where are Umesh Yadav,Varun Aron?

  • balajeev on October 20, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    That man Ishant has played more than 50 tests, while many deserving bowlers have played far less. I wonder why?

  • Muralirajiv on October 20, 2013, 11:09 GMT

    As I said early.If India need to succeed ishant sharma and ashwin should be dropped and give chance to shami/jayadev and amit mishra.

  • safiullah.asifi on October 20, 2013, 11:05 GMT

    A very disappointing performance by Ishant Sharma and I cant see him being a bowler, even a street cricketer can bowl much better than him. I really suggest him to start playing street cricket rather than wasting BCCI money on him. Please give more chance to the new comers such as Unadkat, Shami Ahmad, Mishi and other guys who played really well in domestic cricket.

  • Johnny_129 on October 20, 2013, 11:04 GMT

    When Ishant first came to Australia and was all over Ponting, we were all fooled into believing that he will be a long term success for India - He never kicked on from there. He got his fame and fortune and never took pride in representing India. Looking at him, it is easy to tell that he is a very lazy bowler - he just puts the ball at his comfort back-of-a-length. When was the last time Ishant tried to strive for a fuller length - yorker? He has the perfect height and pace (if he puts the effort in) to bowl such deliveries with a bit of practice BUT he can't be bothered.

  • LALITHKURUWITA on October 20, 2013, 11:03 GMT

    India still does not have a toe crusher for death bowling.

  • LALITHKURUWITA on October 20, 2013, 11:02 GMT

    This Aussies team can make Miracles. I think George Bailey should be made captain of T20 and ODI. Michael Clerk can be only test. George Bailey shold play test matches.

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    Why not Pravin Tambe and M. Sharma ?

  • on October 20, 2013, 11:00 GMT

    What happened to the Yorkers Wasim / Waqar / Shoaib used to ball in the death overs ? The Modern day bowlers for some unknown reason do not know or are not willing to use any Yorkers.

    Regards Umar

  • ShanNachimuthu on October 20, 2013, 10:54 GMT

    Death bowling & Birth bowling ( !!!!????) all bowling getting worse now. Plan for Aussies now is very simple. Just tackle Bhuvi at the begining. That's it. No matter whatever happens you will end up with 300+. I suugest Bhuvi, Jayadev, Shami, Ashwin and Mishra for next match.

  • Samdanh on October 20, 2013, 10:51 GMT

    The pitches are to blame; not the bowlers. These pitches have been too favoured to batsmen. The Jaipur pitch which was quite sportive during CLT20, was converted into a flat pitch for the last one day-the second in the series. Mohali was no better except it gave some opportunity for bowlers. It is high time the Board and State Associations work towards making sportive pitches that aids batsmen / bowlers 60%/40% respectively instead of favouring batting to 100%

  • JAYESHQATAR on October 20, 2013, 10:49 GMT

    If India would have been won the game least by 1 run, the blames on Ishant, Dhoni etc would never been happened here. If you analyse the entire match, Aussies really deserve the win, becaz Bailey dropped Dhoni for an easy attempt. If that was caught, India's score never been went pass 280-290. Or in other way, I don't understand why Dhoni is still depending on both the out of form Ishant and Aswin, they must be rested. Ishant's last over shows how intelligent he is.

  • on October 20, 2013, 10:42 GMT

    I feel bad for Dhoni. Only his side has to use this rule of four fielders outside the circle. It's almost unfair that India are picked on like this. It's not as if he gets to choose and support a bowler he trusts but has proven over and again that he is not of international class - at least in ODI's. Oh hold on. What's that I hear. You mean to tell me that ALL teams have to play with max 4 fielders outside teh circle, and the only reason Sharma is in the side is becasue of Dhoni's personal unblinking support for a bowler the rest of the world can see just isn't up to the job? The richest side, the most resources, change the rules of the game, play at home, picks his own team, decides who bowls the 48th over (and chooses a guy he has had unstinting support for and is in the side purely as a result of his endorsement) and he loses and STILL whinges Poor old India. Change some more rules guys. If the game doesn't fit how India want it, change it till it does. That's how the BCCI rolls!

  • MianMoosa on October 20, 2013, 10:27 GMT

    this indian bowling is the most terrible death bowling i have ever seen, And also in early & middle overs they don,t have wicket taking bowlers, i mean if u take early wickets the team will under pressure,,,i wonder why umesh yadav is not playing, he has pace & will be more useful than ishant,,,,it was also shame to see that experience players like raina & yuvraj are still struggling against short pitch stuff,,,,if india really wanna defend their title in WC 2015 they should must produce quality pacers,,,,,look at Pakistan bowling senior & experience fast bowlers Umar gul is not getting his place even in 15,,,,All pakistan bowlers are wicket takers & attacking..thats why they are not facing death over problem, b,coz many a time there is no one in opposition team in end overs to launch attack

  • Vishal63 on October 20, 2013, 10:25 GMT

    Squad for 4th - 7th ODI: 1. Shikhar Dhawan, 2. Rohit Sharma, 3. Virat Kohli, 4. Suresh Raina, 5. Yuvraj Singh, 6. MS Dhoni (capt & wk), 7. Ravindra Jadeja, 8. Bhuvneshwar Kumar, 9. Irfan Pathan, 10. Zaheer Khan, 11. Amit Mishra.

    SUBS: 12. Ajinkya Rahane, 13. Dinesh Karthik, 14. Ravichandran Ashwin, 15. Mohit Sharma

  • SUPER_SIX on October 20, 2013, 10:15 GMT

    Dhoni will say ''there was dew" everytime he loses a cricket match. He should accept that Aus played better than Ind without giving silly excuses. Dew or no dew this indian bowlers will get smashed everyday..

  • yoogi on October 20, 2013, 10:13 GMT

    If the situation is such that the late order can score runs much better than how it was years ago, then DL method needs tweaking because it considers the last three wickets to worth only 13 percent of total runs possible.

  • kochery on October 20, 2013, 10:13 GMT

    Who is ishant i think he is not even qualify as a bowler...a bowler must earn wickets...he never earns it..when the batsmen choose stupid shot he gets wickets....even in the so called performance of ishant in champions trophy final 2013 the wicket of e. Morgan is because morgan's bad shot selection....bring irfan back what he has done wrong..he had an excellent tour of srilanka last year...and that too not in helping conditions...it seems he is getting back his old spark...

  • on October 20, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    very happy to win Australia over India. hope Australia will win the series 6-1, hehe

  • on October 20, 2013, 10:12 GMT

    what time is the squad for the rest of the series being announced?

  • on October 20, 2013, 10:03 GMT

    MSD could have well given the gloves to someone like Raina or Kohli and bowled a couple of overs himself. He would not have fared worse than Ishant!!!

  • on October 20, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Yaar simply enough, India is playing almost everything at home on flat pitches. They are producing batsmen and they are bailing them out too, but sooner rather than later, there would be a dearth of bowlers. I mean getting more than 600 runs in every game of an ODI series is ridiculous!

  • gm47 on October 20, 2013, 9:59 GMT

    Great batting wicket. MSD was great to watch as always. But was happy to see the Aussies win and watch the crowd go deathly quiet :). Pathetic bowling at the end !!!

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 20, 2013, 9:55 GMT

    I didn't want to say this, but I had to as the shock is just too much to take. The sooner we get rid-off the CSK bullies from the team, the better. Look - Raina - he is clueless against short-pitched deliveries. Jadeja - he can't survive more than an over from Steyn in Australia. Ashwin - he looks like a drum now and is more or less ineffective in his main role as bowler. Project Raina is dubious and will leave us nowhere by the time WC2015 starts. Pujara - a proper, peerless batsman SHOULD come in Raina's place. Amit Mishra for Ashwin. Rahane can come in for Jadeja. Yuvraj can bowl more overs as allrounder. If Ishant has any self-respect left in him, he should excuse himself from the squad. To see this useless bowler swear at Finch yesterday was an eyesore and disgraceful. If Nohit Sharma fails in this series, then he too should be dropped for another young batsman.

  • Dhiraj9 on October 20, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    I think v need more bowler lyk zaheer, who can bowl yorkers in death overs. I dont understand why dhoni is goin with medium fast bowlers. He should give more chance to umesh yadav who can bowl fast and may call varun aaron. These bowlers can bowl at 140-150kmph with bhuvaneshwar kumar will be the best option. These three guys will be the best in australian bowling conditions.

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:53 GMT

    Well playing vs AUSTRALIA you cant relax even for a second. They are so good , professional and mentally so strong that they fight till the match has not ended. They are only team which has won everywhere in all the conditions. I thought that their downfall has started after 2011 but i was wrong. In ODI still a very good side, INDIA needs to work on bowling and specially on pacers, in start of 2013 PAK. defeated INDIA which means they are a side which can be defeated. Needs to work harder INDIA. Australians will you ever stop !!!!!!!

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:44 GMT

    the last time i saw a good performance by ishant was in 2008. he never had a good day only chingumbura of Zimbabwe has a worse bowling record as far as economy rate is concerned. 5.70/over that is too much. And i think dhoni is not to be blamed, he has been doing this from its inception . we have been seen the same gamble from 2007 t20 world cup to champions trophy 2013. If it pays off it was a good move and if doesn't he is criticized.

  • tiger1984 on October 20, 2013, 9:42 GMT

    being a bangladeshi, i must say that india does have a great pool of fast bowlers but they dont try with them.........where is varun aaron, umesh yadev or even rp singh...........its time for them to stand up and hit the deck hard

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    Mr.Dhoni better concentrate in fast bowling for wc15 in aus & nz,in aus conditions ll suit fast bowlers better than spin, two fast bowlers with good mental fitness ..

  • azamscar on October 20, 2013, 9:32 GMT

    seriously am i the only one thinks Indians play too much cricket on flat batting friendly pitches, geees how in the world you expect the bowlers to do better when you play on pitches like these. and im surprised Dohni forgets such things when make comments

  • SUPER_SIX on October 20, 2013, 9:30 GMT

    These Ishant & vinay are getting wickets only when batsman tries to slog them.India should try to find a bowler like Lasith Malinga .who can bowl 6 yorkers from 6 balls.And Ishant should not be allowed to bowl anywhere unless he cut his hair back to normal size .LOL

  • mjrvasu on October 20, 2013, 9:29 GMT

    If not MSD, someone should have walked up after the first ball to Ishant and told him to vary his bowling. Somehow this player does not seem to think on his feet, to try off- or leg-cutters (not sure if he knows these though), or slower deliveries. It was quite evident Faulkner was strong on the on-side but not on the off. Why he could not even think of bowling outside the off-stump, hard to imagine. Bottom line - this should be Ishant's goodbye match.

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:29 GMT

    i thought all these changes in odi were meant to help the indian team as their batsmen will score such a huge totals thst the opposition wont be able to get the total but india didnt know that they got an averge bowling line up which can leak runs like a brust water pipe ishant vinay ashwin should be dropped bring in harbhajan ojha and a left arm seamer

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:24 GMT

    Before the last match I had suggested that Ishant Sharma should be dropped, as his long Sadhu-like hair must be a handicap to his vison apart from its raising the body heat in India's heat.

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:21 GMT

    Simple. First of all why 3 right arm bowlers in the team? At least one left arm seamer would ve been better. Irfan got injury is ok. What about unadkat? he should be given last odi itself. Anyways past is past. Hope mohit or unadkat get chance for next match. Sorry for Ishant. One of his bad days, he should realise and get out of the team and come back strongly in domestic.

  • PrasPunter on October 20, 2013, 9:20 GMT

    @TheRisingTeam, thankfully, I am not the only one who ridicules this 4-players-inside-the-ring restriction. The ODIs are losing the charm and I doubt if we could ever get a classic like the WC 1999 semifinal with these sort of rules. Even a total of 300+ is hard to defend nowadays. The sooner these restrictions are purged, the better will be the contest between the bat and ball. Probably this is the reason why Tests are considered the real-ones.

  • nirob_sami on October 20, 2013, 9:14 GMT

    India won a number of matches which wasn't on their favor.. Let them get some taste of loosing the game which was on their favor !!!

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:13 GMT

    How can we have bowlers who can't bowl a Yorker at the death and still expect to win? Jaydev Unadkat might be better than Ishant.

  • on October 20, 2013, 9:07 GMT

    the lesser the fielders outside the circle the more difficult the bowling gets.... and in such conditions teams with better bowling attacks can do wonders....... and the team with worse bowling attacks are likely to fail........ so the rule shouldn't be blamed Indian bowlers need to lift themselves up......... the same is the case with batting..... team good in batting can benefit the most from it and the teams having worse batters may get caught up......... the game is still in the balance between bat and bowl...... it is just that the gap between good and bad attacks widens up.......

  • shreemohan on October 20, 2013, 8:55 GMT

    Ishant Sharma should be kicked off from the Indian Team like viru & gautham,,,,, he is not bowling consistently well for last three matches.... his line & length is not good, he never bowl like a fast blower.....

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    I think it's about time that ISHANT is sent to play a lot of domestic cricket and to some training academy. This can't keep repeating in such a high-profile game!

    Also, Dhoni's comments are ridiculous for once. While he may sound diplomatic about this ... as a captain, he should have walked up to him and told him to try things differently. A person who is hit, can't think straight and he keeps doing the same thing .. this is when a captain steps in and changes his focus a bit and encourages him. Saying things like this only demeans an already beleaguered player in the team.

    Why can't he step up and take the responsibility ... just batting alone is not a captain's job. He needs to know when to lift the team up.

  • chechong0114 on October 20, 2013, 8:52 GMT

    This has nothing to do with depth bowling getting worst or spoon feeding bowlers as Dhoni said in his statement, the real issue here is right in front of BCCI for all of them to see TOOOOO MUCH CRICKET on these poor indian players, they are the only cricket nation on the planet that are subjecting their players to this kind of torture and it needs to stop or they will suffer even grater losses in the future not only team wise but to a lot of indian players and ultimately the fans. I don't know what the BCCI policy is to justify all this cricket overkill to its players but its just ridiculous. No Sehwag, no Zaheer Khan, Gambir, Harbajan Sign all out due to poor form even a blind man can see the problem and they cant. Yet another packed itenary awaits them after this series with WI, SA, NZ and then ICC T20 world cup then on to England for a full tour this is just ridiculous. I have no doubt that these people are very well educated but in the case of money and greed intelligence is gone.

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:50 GMT

    I did some analysis on the performance of Ishant Sharma. In the last 10 ODI's that Sharma has played he has bowled 73 overs giving away 469 runs at an economy of 6.42 and has taken 15 wickets where his only good spell was against Sri Lanka at Cardiff where he gave away 33 runs in 9 overs picking up 3 wickets getting a man of the match award. Now the question is whether he deserves a chance on the basis of this performance in his last 10 ODI's. I remember Gambhir and Yuvraj were dropped on the basis of their performance in the 8ODI's they played against England and Pakistan earlier in the year. If the same criteria is to be applied then Ishant Sharma doesn't deserve another chance till he gets back to wicket taking form by performing in the upcoming Ranji Season. In tests Zak and Bhuvi should be the opening bowlers and Sharma shouldn't be anywhere near the team on the basis of his current form. By the way, I have no hope from reserve fast bowlers, i.e., Shami and Unadkat.

  • TheRisingTeam on October 20, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    I really hate that 4 fielders outside circle rule. The purpose of ODIs is for a good one day contest between bat and ball and for some reason these silly rule makers trying to make 50 overs like T20. I want the 5 man outside circle rule back otherwise bowlers will have bad inflating records and its hard for them to their jobs properly.

  • BharatBhushanHir on October 20, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    Interesting : People say whenever Sachin score a hundred India loses. Out of 49 ODI Hundreds of Sachin India lost 14 of them. i.e. 28 %. MS Dhoni has scored 8 ODI hundreds playing for India 3 of which were in lost matches. i.e. 37 %. Its interesting to see how people react to this !

  • AyubIsmail on October 20, 2013, 8:41 GMT

    Indian team needs genuine fast bowlers i.e. someone like Zaheer Khan in his prime.The medium pacers will always have problems bowling on batting friendly wickets. Bowling in the death overs remains a major concern for the Indian Team Management.

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:40 GMT

    I have a feeling this series will cause the administrators to change the ODI rules again. I hope they will get rid of the two new balls rule. A ball can be changed if it has lost shape or color but it shouldnt be made mandatory. Remember the days of Sharjah cups and tri series tournaments. It was all about reverse swing.

  • sudheervemana on October 20, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    Nobody in India wants to have Ishant in the Indian team...I have seen so many times Ishant giving more runs this way.......No idea who is backing him...

  • Cpt.Meanster on October 20, 2013, 8:39 GMT

    The new ODI rules don't do any favour to bowlers as a whole. These rules are even more devastating to Indian bowlers given their lack of pace and discipline. Some people might blame T20 cricket/IPL for all this. That's pure nonsense. This is an age old Indian problem. India NEVER had quality bowlers throughout their history except for spinners but even that was back during the retro era. As a bowling group, India are pathetic. Yes, our batting is mighty and good but bowling wins 60-70 percent of games. In test cricket, teams with potent bowling usually remain at the top for a long time. Same with limited overs cricket. Ironically, India have become a strong ODI team mainly due to exceptional batting and fielding. I wish India and Pakistan were united. We would be unbeatable. India's batting with Pakistan's bowling = EPIC.

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:36 GMT

    In order to have a healthy dug out, there needs to be healthy competition among the best playing at the international level.. no point taking a few people and mostly just have them carry drinks.. Ishant has hardly wowed anybody after his first year at the international arena.. while it's very easy to like him for his action, potential and the run up and so on.. it's hard to ignore his lack of ability to show growth. I do not see Yuvraj ever improving either.. I was one of his biggest biggest fans but his flaws are just not going away.. One last chance and I think he should give way to someone like Rayudu. With regards to pacers.. BK & PK are better options (although similar) to spearhead the attack. PK can bat too. I feel Indians could live with an out of form Zak than sticking with some of these under-performing bowlers.

  • Riz132 on October 20, 2013, 8:30 GMT

    In my theory the bowler has to be less blamed. The pitch and the motivation of the team are important factors of winning and losing the game. Australia was sure that they can make the score and it happened. Ishant or any other bowler would have the same faith and that is why this game is so uncertain.

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:27 GMT

    I think Ishant needs some rest. Zaheer Khan has regained him form and fitness, so its a good time for comeback of Zaheer to ensure Indian bowling attack does not fail constantly. At the same time, Ishant Sharma is much needing a rest to ensure himself get well prepared with more training.

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    I am glad that dhoni is taking this series seriously... but Mr.dhoni u don't have to spoon feed bowlers, instead u just don't feed ishant..rest him for couple more series...after all u need back up in WC15 right...how can u have good back up with out international exposure??atleast bring in ur fav CSK player mohit...I think he us good....

  • satishsasikumar on October 20, 2013, 8:24 GMT

    I think it is a nice time for Dhoni and Co. to test their bench strength for WC 2015 even at the cost of this ongoing series..he has to give opportunities to others on bench and test to know if the players, especially the bowlers would be suitable on Aus/NZ picthes and could also go ahead and find reserves both in batting/bowling!

  • ssenthil on October 20, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    I think the people after Ashwin failed to understand that Dhoni is using Ashwin wherever he want, which he can't do with any other bowler. You people are bashing a bowler who asked to start his first over at 28th over and as a spinner he has to handle the dew. Dhoni knows Ashwin will return with similar figures if he was using him as Jadeja, just bring him after a wicket or after 15 overs and bowl him out as quickly as possible. But ask Jadeja to bowl after 40th over, he will be simply thrashed to all around the park and any other spinner from India will get the same treatment in Indian flat pitches. But at least Ashwin has the courage to stand up to the captain needs and he is bowling 41st, 43rd, 45th, 47th and 49th over. Which is half of his bowling quota. In fact he has conceded only 28 runs from that 5 overs. If you are using him as a death bowler in India and yet expects not to concede more then 6 RPO in a 300 runs pitch is never going to happen.

  • on October 20, 2013, 8:21 GMT

    What is the fun for Kohli to bowl one over for 18 runs. Raina and Rohit are more accomplished bowlers than Kohli. I hope Kohli will never bowl in his career to lose a match which should have been won after brilliant century by Dhoni. Dhoni Captainship lacked imagination. Ishant should be dropped and sent to cricket camp if at all he has inclination to improve. Not a single yorker in all the six balls. Disgusting

  • satishsasikumar on October 20, 2013, 8:18 GMT

    Let us wait for the selection committee to decide the team for next set of one-dayers against Aussies..does Ishant stand a chance to be in?

  • Rohan0309 on October 20, 2013, 8:17 GMT

    This match was like an SOS to Zaheer Khan. If all it takes is experience to counter attacking batsmen, Zak is the most experienced one around.

  • Real_Champs on October 20, 2013, 8:13 GMT

    there is no need to discuss the rules ,,, whether its 4 men or 10 men outside the ring if one is hit for 4 sixes in an over its simply his fault

  • cricketer_sharmaji on October 20, 2013, 8:02 GMT

    We need Bhajji and Zaheer back in the team to enhance our bowling attack.Ishant and Ashwin should be rested for a while to re-gain their form.

  • Risk_Taker on October 20, 2013, 7:52 GMT

    It's not a good sportsmanship to run down Ishanth for an over at will. I think he tried 5 different length as much as he could. It was pure treat from James faulks! And on series prespective, Indian umpires shouldn't be appointed since they very new to international cricket. there were very poor decisions..Gotta feeling they are paid for it from BCCI.. And you can't really expect them to do well in very very noisy atmosphere. For Indian pitches ICC should really use Elite panel umpires and stick to them..

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    giving 30 runs to a batsman who is not a batsman is too much. everybody seen that isant has not giving yoorker,fulltoss...etc.A international regular bowler should khow that. Isant should learn from malinga..

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 20, 2013, 7:51 GMT

    What has 4 fielders rule got to do with monstrous sixers? If there are less fielders in the outfield, boundaries will get easier. Sixers are, well, sixers. They sail over the ropes, even if you have all the eleven fielders on the boundary rope. How hard is that to understand, Mr. Excuses? Admit it, that you made a selection blunder before the match started and captaincy blunders during critical passages of play. Giving ball to half good Kohli (he got smashed in IPL too. Remember? Match turned on its head in that IPL encounter), no less. Raviobesean Ashwin not finishing his quota, Generous Sharma returning back for death bowling.......what say Mr. Excuses? Open your eyes. Shed your ego that we are giving you suggestions. Your stubbornness and or sinister chamchagiri politics is costing us. Fans are heartbroken here. Don't feel like supporting this team, over-populated with hyped chamchas. Sick!

  • DaisonGarvasis on October 20, 2013, 7:47 GMT

    @keerthitommy - fully agree with your comment. Ashwin "escaped" the blame of losing this game at the expense of Ishanth. Aswin being the main spinner was not given the ball until late in the innings and cant blame dhoni for that given aswin's performance in the series. Once in death overs aswin was mostly bowling carrom balls outside legstump. He was dead scared of bowling the off break on off stump knowing that delivery was going for six. And then occassionally he bowled a short ball which was hit for six/four. Mishra should play the next game and they should let AUS take him on. Mishra is so difficult to hit even in T20 he can be very useful in death overs. If not successful Misrha will take wickets for cheap runs and if not successful he will still take wickets for more runs - nonethless he will TAKE WICKETS. And if AUS manage to hit him for runs, they will also concede more wickets. Given that Aswin is not looking like taking wickets, Mishra should play.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:46 GMT

    The new odi rule killing the game very much . There s no concept of reverse swing due to the one ball at each end . And most worrying rule is only 4 fielders outside the ring is killing the odi very much .Bowlers gets handicapped by these rules so these batsmen are getting so much advantage if this .. This affect the balance of the match very much . Icc must scrap it b4 World Cup

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    Well I really dont blame the selectors for this fiasco.The entire blame has to fall on Dhoni coz the selectors have given a 15 member squad consisting of alternate pace bowlers in Udankat and Shami and a spinner in Amit Mishra but if Dhoni is adamant on not selecting them and persisting with Ishant,Vinay and Ashwin he is to blamed it has been Dhoni's attitude not to talk to his bowlers when they need to be talked to he simply stands there and talks after the mach is over.I still remember one match against Sri Lanka where Dilshan kept playing cut shots of spinners who were feeding with outside the off stump deliveries and Dhoni in post match says I have never so many cut shots being played in a match all he had to do was walk down to his bowler and say ur line he didnt.When Raydu was selected in squad I knew he will never play as all batsman were automatic selection incase Dhoni wanted a new person at 4 Raydu was a option but no.I stick to my favorites so blame Dhoni not selectors

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:45 GMT

    i should like to say that vinay kumar should be given the 47th over bcz his two over was left i want to say that dhoni come out from these do some changes in the team like ishant should be dropped mohit sharma or yadav or varun arun given chance

  • Sandt on October 20, 2013, 7:43 GMT

    Ishant Sharma is not a bowler with caliber to play international cricket.The guy don't have a proper strength in his bowling.He don't have swing, variation or line and length for international players.He has bowled well only in patches thru out his career.He comes and bowls the same line and length ever if the batsmen is hitting.i don't understand why he is getting chances like this. If umesh Yadav, sreeshant and others has got this much of changes they should have been world class bowlers.No he will get another change in next match also and by luck will take 2 or 3 wickets and cement his place for another 10 match.He is not doing anything for improving because he knows his place in the side is safe and can take the liberty of bowling like this.BCCI selectors please take some strong actions to remove these non performing so called fast bowlers like Vinay kumar and Ishant. for the sake of Indian cricket and its batsmen.

  • DaisonGarvasis on October 20, 2013, 7:40 GMT

    For Ishanth to have bowled that over shows how IRRESPONSIBLE the fellow is. When things were not going his way, he should have asked for help in what to do!!! Instead he ran in and bowled short balls one after other! He could have done many things - slow the game down with consulting with Dhoni, get advise from others in the team, at least bowl a fuller length delivery and so on. He is to blame for this loss, he only.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:36 GMT

    Change Bowling line-up with our bench player...

  • seantells on October 20, 2013, 7:36 GMT

    India has to give a break or get rid off Ashwin and Sharma , what happened to that quick bowler Yadav and also would be handy if a left arm seamer included

  • simpleton on October 20, 2013, 7:35 GMT

    Ishant Sharma does precious little in Tests and ODIs and still he is always in the playing squad.

    All these days, selectors picked him because he had potential.

    Now, he will continue getting selected because now he has experience. Indian cricket fans are doomed.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:35 GMT

    I think Ishant has spent too long watching Mitch Johnson roughing up the batsmen with short pitched bowling, so he tries the same thing. Difference is Mitch is up to 20k's quicker than Ishant. I do find it surprising, though, that a man of Ishant's experience (in IPL, T20I and ODI) can't bowl a yorker.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:34 GMT

    Persisting with bowlers who didnt do well in the last few matches shows how the selection of the team is done!!! Ishanth Sharma is one prime example. Besides that Ashwin is doing no good .... bowling negative line just to contain the bastman (even that his economy rate is more than 6+). Amit Sharma is sitting in the dugout waiting for a chance.

    Indian Side especially with bowlers needs to reshuffled and try out new individuals rather than sticking to past glory of past players and giving them a chance again and again. Team Selection is pathetic to say the least .. favoring CSK players like Ashwin is one good example.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    give rest to ishant for couple of games and give a chance to other bowlers who are waiting for their name to be called. I m sure such bowlers will bring us back in the tournament. rest upto selectors and the captain.

  • BSWadekar on October 20, 2013, 7:31 GMT

    I think we need to change our selection policy. It must be made compulsory to play at least 50 first class match before selecting a player. I don't know exactly but not having enough experience at first-class level seems to be the problem behind our bowling. And bowlers who have been selected after playing enough first-class matches have shown instant results. Though Vinay has gone for few extra runs this series, but whenever he bowls he looks as if he belongs to the international team. Even if he is in XI after long time due to any reason, he bowls as if he has been around for a decade. That is the result of playing lot of first-class matches. It's not worth to give, players without enough(at least 50 matches) experience at first-class level, a chance at international matches, let them fail and say India has bad Bowling attack. There are few like Pankaj Singh, Dhawal Kulkarni who have been doing consistently welll in first class matches who deserve chance.

  • Johnny_129 on October 20, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    How does an extra fielder in the circle affect the ball flying over the fence! India could put all fielders and wicket-keeper outside the inner-circle and Ishant would still go for six! Time to give Ishant a rest and time to think.

  • Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on October 20, 2013, 7:28 GMT

    Though Generous Sharma's over was the final common pathway through which the match was lost, why was he on the ground to start with? Who selected him? Dhoni, it is. It boggles my mind that Generous Sharma got selected in the final XI even after his generosity in the preceding 2nd and 1st ODIs along with the t20. Dhoni, it is. As much as MSD's was a terrific innings as a player, he made a blunder even before the match started by including Generous Sharma in the team. During the match, part timer Kohli went for 18 runs, Ashwin bowled 9 overs and Generous Sharma returns during death overs. Captaincy blunders all around. All the boarders on Cricinfo, experts, journalists, media - everybody was saying drop that Generous Sharma. But Dhoni clearly ignored all this, against common cricketing sense and India paid the price. Interests of India don't seem to mean anything, anymore. Personal 'instincts' or politics as opposed to reality is the order of the day. Shame on Dhoni, the deluded captain.

  • deconstruct on October 20, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    While I agree that the new rule is totally unfair to the bowlers, I still think it suits sides like India - whose strength is batting - far more than teams like Pakistan who rely on their bowlers. Because, if anything, this rule puts the good bowlers almost at level the mediocre ones especially on flat tracks. Dhoni has managed to build a fine ODI side (this series notwithstanding), where the strategy revolves around using the strong batting line to its maximum potential, then limiting the other side with disciplined bowling and agile fielding. This approach, of course, fails in tests where you have to get the other side out twice. Indian team simply does not have match winning (fast) bowlers, who can do that outside India. In their own backyard, they can still win test matches through their spinners.

  • prasanna on October 20, 2013, 7:25 GMT

    While India's youngsters have been promising, selecting a core team for 2015 world cup is one thing and training the team on bouncy tracks is another, this is a series where India could have easily gone 3 down but for outstanding batting effort in the 2nd ODI. Ishant's spell and Dhoni's innings somehow masked the India's batting issues we saw in this game against bounce.

    At the end of the day, the WC needs to be won in Australia and both India's bowling and batting need to shape up accordingly, will not be a bad idea to recall Zaheer, someone who could mentor bowlers in the game and have him till 2015 WC in ODI plans.

    Australia have been putting up good fight and an exciting series is on cards, good to see that the series so far has been played in good spirits as well.

  • dunger.bob on October 20, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    I already had a good opinion of Dhoni the thinker before I read this article, but now its been confirmed.

    In his own way he has acknowledged the Aussies as a serious opponent while at the same time both soothed and admonished his bowler. Well done MS. Not a bad innings either old mate.

    If you read the article carefully you will see that Dhoni fully appreciates this series for what it actually is. .. the heavy weight championship of the world and, for once, it's living up to it's billing. We have two teams, one and two on the pecking order. One is celebrated as the current benchmark while the other is from a family of champions trying to emulate their fore-bears. .. and it's close.

    It's a fascinating series because the teams have very different skill sets, tactics and strengths. It's like a race between two different configurations where the lead keeps changing and it's hard to predict which formula will ultimately prevail.

    Either way in the end, I'm loving the battle.

  • Indianbybirth on October 20, 2013, 7:20 GMT

    Ishant is no more an International bowler and I have no idea why is being given so many opportunities. It really hurts me to see india loosing a match so horribly. Where is Jaydev, Irfan, U Yadav, V Aron, I Pandey, S Warrier etc.....The real talent will be know only when they are given opportunities.

  • Ajmal_raja on October 20, 2013, 7:20 GMT

    serious trouble here for india.......need some quality fast bowler...unfortunately india have lost the art of bowling in partition to us......am a big fan of MSD as aplayer and as a sportsman but here he is misseing it now....i failed to understand why a guy like Dhoni is not getting the situation......they need to try n try fast...time is running out

  • kooldoc on October 20, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    Agree w / posted comment above -- Raina was an option -'

    But i want everyone to review Faulkner's wagon wheel which Dhoni as wicketkeeper gets to review live- 48 runs on leg side - one would imagine why not bowl your last overs by a slow bowler who can control the pace and also not give chance to some one like Faulkner to take a step back and just swing his bat on leg side.

    Dhoni in press conference - explaining that most of bowlers in this series will be looking to give 10-12 runs or not ore than 17-18 runs to be called as not so bad over is setting wrong example for the bowlers. Leadership issue not being questioned but failure to accept his own mistake is of not reading the situation correctly and asking the correct bowler to throw the bowl- surprising or should i call shame !

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    kick him out frm cricket, hitting six's in over does't matter but as a prime blower he should have some varieties in his depth bowling. Even raina could bowl that over and kept him tight.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:16 GMT

    i have sympathies with one of my most Fvrt Player MS Dhoni. what a cricketer he is. My Indian fans agree or das'nt but with out MS Dhoni captaincy Indian team have nothing. Indian team always had run scorers in past like tendukr, dravid, gangoli and now kohli, raina, dhawan.. but now days Indian team more match's only becoz of MS DHONi.. as a cricket fan i want Dhoni to play as long as he can but as a fan of Pakistan team i want of plz take (R) and do commentary only and watch india team to produce result like that..

  • keerthitommy on October 20, 2013, 7:15 GMT

    Ashwin should concentrate on his stock ball. Ashwin should be rested and mishra should play.He is a leggie so he can get more wickets than ashwin in odis because a leggie has more natural variations. India should try new bowlers like mohit sharma,sandeep sharma. Umesh yadav is bowling in a superb pace but he is not able to swing the ball much. Ishant should go to the domestic circuit to prove his ability.He has delivered in the champions trophy.His over changed the game in the finals. Jadeja has proven his worth with the ball but he should concentrate with bat.India should try irfan pathan and praveen kumar.They are natural swingers of the ball and that will cause trouble to the batsmen.All the best for india in the next game

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    Why Virat; and why not Raina, to try something new? Anyone has any answers?

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:14 GMT

    Now Dhoni needs to take some stern decisions for his team, The Batting is quite strong but the bowling line up needs to be changed. Bring in Umesh Yadav, Varun Aaron(if he is fit), Parvez rasool, Amit Mishra and if possible Irfan pathan can be considered.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:12 GMT

    If Ishant has any self respect, he should ask the selectors for a break, sort out the problems, learn how to bowl in the death overs, and come back strongly.

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:10 GMT

    can understand dhoni s sympathy for ishant but I think he s unnecessarily going out of the way by selecting him... I feel keeping him in the XI when he s going through this horrific patch will permanently end his international career...instead send him back to domestic cricket and insist on him coming back stronger n hungrier...its not hard to notice that ishant has no fire inside to do well...if he can put in the hard work he will make it back to the team... its clear that he has taken his place for granted and the consequence is there for everyone to see... make ur players work for their cap Mr dhoni or else Ind can never dominate world cricket though it has the potential !

  • on October 20, 2013, 7:04 GMT

    I think inshant sharma is the unluckiest bowler in the indian side of all time. shami should play instead.

  • mirash on October 20, 2013, 7:03 GMT

    I am not blaming Ishant...but indian team management or BCCI should be blamed. Till now they couldnot build up a fast bowler who must be feared by a batsman. A Strike bowler should be trained and introduced to indian team. A dark day for Ishant. Dhoni please rotate your bowlers...let the player in benches play

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:49 GMT

    India Need Zaheer Khan.. He is a best blower in India

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:49 GMT

    Don't know why Dhoni always like & recommend this bowler?

  • PadMarley on October 20, 2013, 6:42 GMT

    Dhoni disappoints me with his comments here as a captain. You chose the man, you managed his overs, you used him at a critical stage when he is not at his best, and got hammered! And now you complain! Is it that you deliberately architectured his failure, so that you can get rid of him???

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:29 GMT

    Erratic bowling and inability to vbowl to one's field of 4 fielders outside the circle is the main problem .Giving Kohli the ball instead of even Raina is a bad decision. Throwing one's wicket to short pitched balls is yet a weakness. Jadeja has failed to make runs though his fielding and bowling have been good. Ishant is a predictable bowler. He needs a break. May be Unadkat could be better alternative.

  • DaisonGarvasis on October 20, 2013, 6:28 GMT

    Well this Ishanth Over had nothing to do with field restrictions and rule changes. 4 of the 6 deliveries went for HUGE sixes from length and short deliveries. He just kept on bowling those same deliveries. At least an attempt to bowl a full/yorker would have been heartening to see. Even before that match there were people asking for Ishanth to be dropped but Dhoni backed him. With this performance Ishanth himself has forced Dhoni to drop and forget him.

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:21 GMT

    irfan, r.p singh, umesh, ashish, varun, munaf, ishant, bhuvaneshwar and a few more. all of them came on to the scene of odi cricket with a big bang and have all gone out of the scene equally fast. someone needs to answer or rather address the issue. not one bowler in the team who can restrict the flow of runs leave alone taking a wicket. ashwin can bowl six different kinds of delivery in one over but can he bowl 4-5 accurate deliveries in one over? i don't think so. in trying all kinds of things in one over, i think he is forgetting the basics. it's a shame that the most economical bowler over the last few games has been ravindra jadeja. the reason is that he sticks to one thing rather than trying all kinds of things. seriously, the bowlers need to have some kind of a plan. just running up and bowling will take them no where. understood that one can have a bad day in the office occasionally but consistently, time to hand over the pink slip.

  • ghostcall on October 20, 2013, 6:19 GMT

    Fielder limitations come into the picture when the shots are bisected between the fielders.. what would they do when the monster hits are sailing over their head out of the park? pathetic bowling display rather worse bowling selections. Bring bck Praveen Kumar , Umesh Yadav n Mohit Sharma or Zaheer khan ( best though bit rusty as require some more match practice) .Vinay Kumar is more worse than Ishant. He neither has pace nor swing and end up bowling juicy full tosses when want to throw yorkers. To add salt to the wounds I hv never witnessed any hostile or match winning spell from him in his entire carreer inc IPL. Both Jaydev Unadkat n Vinay Kumar r depended on the movement from the pitch :(

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:14 GMT

    I was waiting from 2nd ODI to Jaydev Unadkat replace Ishant in the team India. I dunno why still dhoni have hope with Ishant. Mishra must replace Aswin from the team.

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    I still find it fascinating that people still think Ashwin is a great bowler.Ashwin has been taken to cleaners by the Aussie batsman.T20 he went for 41 overs in 2 overs and 50+ plus in all 3 matches.Reason Ashwin didnt go plenty in the 3rd odi was Faulkner was not able to take him for big shots had Watto Finchy Bailey been at crease that would have happened.Ashwin is becoming repeat telecast of Bhajji in past he used to leak runs and bat a bit and score runs and hang in team.So please Ashwin supporters get your facts right Jadeja who is mediocre has more wickets than Ashwin and was highest wicket tacker in 2013 thats how good your spin spearhead is.Drop him for the betterment of team.That wont happen till Dhoni is at helm

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:09 GMT

    Recommended changes for the next 4 ODI's - 1) Captainship, take it away from cussed Dhoni for refusing to drop Ishant / Ashwin who through bad bowling were demanding a break & then, shamelessly blaming those same bowlers for the games India lost due to Dhoni's cussedness. Give it to Virat OR Rohit (who has shown in the IPL / CLT that he can lead well). 2) Players - replace Ishant with Mohit (Sharma ramaining common), Ashwin with Rasool. 3) If Dhoni is retained as captain, at least send the reserves home so they can stay with their families & save BCCI some money. Dhoni refuses to use them, even to replace useless players so why inconvenience the players AND waste money on travel & accommodation giving Dhoni resources that he does not want to use even in times of need ?

  • Rohit... on October 20, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    @ ssenthil : What would have happened if Raina would have been hit for 24 runs? You would have wondered why Kohli as not given a go at the ball... Players are bound to slog when they are chasing 300+ target... Just because they succeeded doesn't mean that the strategy was wrong... Dhoni tried to do something different and when he saw that it didn't work, he quickly retracted from the move.

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    Why dont they have a look at Rishi Dhawan ..seems to have impressive allround statistics at first class cricket

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    Unadkat can bowl better yorkers and slower bowls. We saw him in IPL. His wicket taking average in IPL is 20runs/wicket while Ishant is 30runs/wicket same with Mishra vs Ashwin. I never understood meaning of experience. Is experience means giving away most runs without taking wickets consistently.

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    Ishant Sharma's 7.5 run rate is nothing new, he has been doing that since the last 3 matches at least, giving clear indications that he is unable to learn on the field of play currently. Bowling badly for 3 matches in a row, Ishant Sharma has been demanding a break. Just because the media & critics were saying drop Ishant, Dhoni went on an EGO trip & refused to give Ishant a break. India have paid the price of Dhoni's cussedness AND Dhoni is blaming the bowlers ! I would expect reporters to call a spade a spade, even if it is uncomfortable for Dhoni's sponsors.

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    Even if 5 fielders were outside the circle yesterday.....that four sixes will be six only....you can back the bowlers....if he bowled full 10 overs in one match well.....but ishant never bowled like that..he always used to take wickets in death overs while batsmen try to slog him......

  • scorpp on October 20, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    Spoonfeeding and timely suggestions are two different things. Dhoni thinks that everyone is as cool as him, and can take any amount of pressure. It is rare to see Dhoni walk up and talk a few words to his bowlers or even the batting partner. Plus, sticking to completely out of form players, while others rot on the bench had been his style. He would not get rid of Zaheer, Harbhajan, Sehwag and Gambhir, till they were left out of the team. Every player has time in his career, where he needs to be out of the spotlight of international cricket and go back to the county/state circuit and iron out the kinks. Whether Dhoni sticks to Ashwin, Ishant, Vinay on the basis of his belief in them or because of IPL considerations one would never know. Dhoni betrays no emotion ever !! In a way I am glad that India lost. Else the poor performance of Ashwin and Ishant yesterday would have been eclipsed by the platitudes about Dhoni's batting.

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    I think india needs to find out some new bowlers and selection do their job much carefully.. Ishant is getting chance again and again.. why?? while unadkat / M sharma/amit mishra/ojha are playing well in domestic, give them a chance at least.. give ishant.. ashwin some time to get back their rhythm.. play them some domestic cricket.. send ishant to play some county cricket.. ishant is getting worse and worse by period of time.. give him some time to analyse himself..

    Hoping that ishant will not be in team for four more ODIs.. hopefully M sharma / Unadkat will get a chance atleast now..

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    the way dhoni supports his players is tremendous. we all know that ishant has delivered one of the worst over in ODI but still dhoni is backing him up, great leadership. now to blame ishant is like a giving medicines to a dead person.

  • sam911 on October 20, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    Why every rule which ICC made only indian players feel the problem to adopt to it, u r right do not spoon feed the bowler, but the matter of fact is that Whole Indian team is spoon fed by BCCI, BCCI most of the time put pressure on other boards and ICC to made everything favorable for Indian team, as BCCI knows without dong that Indian team is a sitting duck for most of the teams, Latest example Why BCCI is interferring in SA board its their right to appoint any one, but BCCI creating mess in SA so that everyone their de-moralize and the effect might be on the team selection and its performance, I think BCCI should asked ICC to pass a ruling that no board in the world allow to do any thing without the permission of BCCI, it is the only way by which indian team kept on winning

  • jigu7 on October 20, 2013, 5:15 GMT

    Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Econ Pos Inns Opposition Ground Start DateAscending

    10 1 48 3 4.8 6 1 v Sri Lanka Cardiff 20-Jun-13 ODI # 3376 4 1 15 2 3.75 4 2 v England Birmingham 23-Jun-13 ODI # 3377 10 0 44 2 4.4 5 2 v West Indies Kingston 30-Jun-13 ODI # 3380 10 0 67 1 6.7 5 1 v Sri Lanka Kingston 2-Jul-13 ODI # 3382 4 0 25 0 6.25 5 2 v West Indies Port of Spain 5-Jul-13 ODI # 3383 5 0 20 1 4 5 2 v Sri Lanka Port of Spain 9-Jul-13 ODI # 3387 10 0 42 2 4.2 6 1 v Sri Lanka Port of Spain 11-Jul-13 ODI # 3388 10 0 55 2 5.5 4 1 v Australia Pune 13-Oct-13 ODI # 3419 8 0 50 1 6.25 5 1 v Australia Jaipur 16-Oct-13 ODI # 3420 9 0 58 0 6.44 6 2 v Australia Mohali 19-Oct-13 ODI # 3421

    80 2 424 14 5.3 51 15

    30 runs per wicket, last 10 matches,

  • ssenthil on October 20, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    Dhoni simply failed to bowl out Ashwin thus he has to get an additional over from either Ishant or Vinay but he also got an additional over from Virat which is really surprising and that is the game changer. Dhoni failed as a Captain. IMO he should have tried S Raina who has bowled really well even in the CL T-20 and he is not getting a single over while Virat gets surprised me a lot. I never seen Raina going for heap of runs in a single over unlike Virat.

  • ssenthil on October 20, 2013, 5:07 GMT

    Dhoni simply failed to bowl out Ashwin thus he has to get an additional over from either Ishant or Vinay but he also got an additional over from Virat which is really surprising and that is the game changer. Dhoni failed as a Captain. IMO he should have tried S Raina who has bowled really well even in the CL T-20 and he is not getting a single over while Virat gets surprised me a lot. I never seen Raina going for heap of runs in a single over unlike Virat.

  • jigu7 on October 20, 2013, 5:15 GMT

    Overs Mdns Runs Wkts Econ Pos Inns Opposition Ground Start DateAscending

    10 1 48 3 4.8 6 1 v Sri Lanka Cardiff 20-Jun-13 ODI # 3376 4 1 15 2 3.75 4 2 v England Birmingham 23-Jun-13 ODI # 3377 10 0 44 2 4.4 5 2 v West Indies Kingston 30-Jun-13 ODI # 3380 10 0 67 1 6.7 5 1 v Sri Lanka Kingston 2-Jul-13 ODI # 3382 4 0 25 0 6.25 5 2 v West Indies Port of Spain 5-Jul-13 ODI # 3383 5 0 20 1 4 5 2 v Sri Lanka Port of Spain 9-Jul-13 ODI # 3387 10 0 42 2 4.2 6 1 v Sri Lanka Port of Spain 11-Jul-13 ODI # 3388 10 0 55 2 5.5 4 1 v Australia Pune 13-Oct-13 ODI # 3419 8 0 50 1 6.25 5 1 v Australia Jaipur 16-Oct-13 ODI # 3420 9 0 58 0 6.44 6 2 v Australia Mohali 19-Oct-13 ODI # 3421

    80 2 424 14 5.3 51 15

    30 runs per wicket, last 10 matches,

  • sam911 on October 20, 2013, 5:33 GMT

    Why every rule which ICC made only indian players feel the problem to adopt to it, u r right do not spoon feed the bowler, but the matter of fact is that Whole Indian team is spoon fed by BCCI, BCCI most of the time put pressure on other boards and ICC to made everything favorable for Indian team, as BCCI knows without dong that Indian team is a sitting duck for most of the teams, Latest example Why BCCI is interferring in SA board its their right to appoint any one, but BCCI creating mess in SA so that everyone their de-moralize and the effect might be on the team selection and its performance, I think BCCI should asked ICC to pass a ruling that no board in the world allow to do any thing without the permission of BCCI, it is the only way by which indian team kept on winning

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    the way dhoni supports his players is tremendous. we all know that ishant has delivered one of the worst over in ODI but still dhoni is backing him up, great leadership. now to blame ishant is like a giving medicines to a dead person.

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:38 GMT

    I think india needs to find out some new bowlers and selection do their job much carefully.. Ishant is getting chance again and again.. why?? while unadkat / M sharma/amit mishra/ojha are playing well in domestic, give them a chance at least.. give ishant.. ashwin some time to get back their rhythm.. play them some domestic cricket.. send ishant to play some county cricket.. ishant is getting worse and worse by period of time.. give him some time to analyse himself..

    Hoping that ishant will not be in team for four more ODIs.. hopefully M sharma / Unadkat will get a chance atleast now..

  • scorpp on October 20, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    Spoonfeeding and timely suggestions are two different things. Dhoni thinks that everyone is as cool as him, and can take any amount of pressure. It is rare to see Dhoni walk up and talk a few words to his bowlers or even the batting partner. Plus, sticking to completely out of form players, while others rot on the bench had been his style. He would not get rid of Zaheer, Harbhajan, Sehwag and Gambhir, till they were left out of the team. Every player has time in his career, where he needs to be out of the spotlight of international cricket and go back to the county/state circuit and iron out the kinks. Whether Dhoni sticks to Ashwin, Ishant, Vinay on the basis of his belief in them or because of IPL considerations one would never know. Dhoni betrays no emotion ever !! In a way I am glad that India lost. Else the poor performance of Ashwin and Ishant yesterday would have been eclipsed by the platitudes about Dhoni's batting.

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:43 GMT

    Even if 5 fielders were outside the circle yesterday.....that four sixes will be six only....you can back the bowlers....if he bowled full 10 overs in one match well.....but ishant never bowled like that..he always used to take wickets in death overs while batsmen try to slog him......

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    Ishant Sharma's 7.5 run rate is nothing new, he has been doing that since the last 3 matches at least, giving clear indications that he is unable to learn on the field of play currently. Bowling badly for 3 matches in a row, Ishant Sharma has been demanding a break. Just because the media & critics were saying drop Ishant, Dhoni went on an EGO trip & refused to give Ishant a break. India have paid the price of Dhoni's cussedness AND Dhoni is blaming the bowlers ! I would expect reporters to call a spade a spade, even if it is uncomfortable for Dhoni's sponsors.

  • on October 20, 2013, 5:56 GMT

    Unadkat can bowl better yorkers and slower bowls. We saw him in IPL. His wicket taking average in IPL is 20runs/wicket while Ishant is 30runs/wicket same with Mishra vs Ashwin. I never understood meaning of experience. Is experience means giving away most runs without taking wickets consistently.

  • on October 20, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    Why dont they have a look at Rishi Dhawan ..seems to have impressive allround statistics at first class cricket