India A v Australians, Chennai, 2nd day February 17, 2013

'Australia's technique found wanting' - Tiwary

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Manoj Tiwary sounded the first unofficial salvo of an otherwise far 'kinder, gentler' run-up to an India-Australia series in a long time when he said that a good number of Australian batsmen had been "wanting" in their technique against the India A spinners on day two of their three-day practice match at the ICL Guru Nanak College Ground in Chennai.

Tiwary, a free-spirited batsman, became the second centurion in the India A innings, scoring 129 as his team was all out for 451 just before tea on a rain-affected day. After the day's play, with Australia scoring 131 for 4 and losing all four batsmen to the spinners Rakesh Dhurv and Jalaj Saxena, Tiwary didn't hold back, either on opinion or prediction.

"They haven't played the spinners as well as they could have - because I think the technique was [found] wanting," he said. Australia were tootling along at a good clip against the four India A medium pacers before spin was introduced in the 21st over. Left-arm spinner Dhurv had Ed Cowan leg before in the 23rd over and Australia lost three more wickets before stumps. Off-spinner Saxena had Phil Hughes stumped and Usman Khawaja bowled, both scoring 1. Of all the batsmen, it was only Shane Watson who looked completely in control.

Tiwary said of the bulk of the Australian top order, "They were not sure of their defence to be honest. That's why they were not stretching enough to play the spin and not going back enough to play their shots." Australia are without captain Michael Clarke and opener David Warner and Tiwary was not without his assessment. "If this is the way they are going to bat, it's going to be difficult for them to be honest… to face quality spinners like Bhajjupa (Harbhajan Singh) and Ashwin and Ojha. The way they are bowling, it will be very difficult for them."

Should the wicket in Chepauk, where the first Test begins on February 22, be like what it was at the Guru Nanak College ground - slow, low, with very little pace and minor turn - Tiwary predicted more worries for "all their bowlers."

Watson though said there was, "absolutely no doubt about what India is going to hit us with." The start of the tour, he said, was proving to be a "big learning curve for a lot of the guys" and that the best approach to playing spin in India had to be "proactive." Spinners he said must "certainly" be attacked. "You can't just allow them to settle in a certain line and length and allow them to be able to bowl that ball over and over again. At some stage that ball is going to turn and bounce and do something. As individual batsmen, we have to find a game plan to have as much success as we can."

Australia's lesser-experienced batsmen, he said, were however, "very talented guys."

"They have scored a lot of first-class runs in different conditions and it won't take a very long time to find a game plan and a technique that will work here."

Lost in the assessment of Australia's response to the two rather unheralded Indian spinners was Tiwary's own performance; every time he has been given an opportunity against touring sides, he has scored runs this season, getting 93 against England A before his century in Chennai. "I came out to play this match, not to impress anyone but just to make myself happy after scoring runs. I was very conscious about getting big runs here to prove myself that I can score runs against quality opposition as well," he said.

One of the shadow men for spots in the Indian Test middle order, Tiwary more talked about for his one-day game said, "My dream has always been to play Test cricket. It depends on the selectors what they think about me and whether they can show some faith in me. My job was to score runs and I will do that as long as I play first-class cricket and four-day cricket."

The push for an India spot, he said, demanded a high degree of determination because of the competition. "You know the competition is so high you can't miss out in an innings because you will go back few months of selection." When asked whether he considered his game good enough to handle fast bowling adequately, he said that he was not concerned what his game "looked" like. "What I can do is I can score runs and if you can only look ugly and score runs, I will still go for runs. It doesn't matter if I look odd or ugly in facing quick bowlers. I know my game and I know how to score runs. That's how I have been able to score more than 5000 runs in seven or eight years of first-class cricket."

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  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | February 18, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    He did redeem himself by saying that Australian youngsters will get better as they gain experience in these conditions and bat better. Atleast he is allowed to speak his mind, he has scored runs whenever given chance in A side. Not much can be said about his illustrious colleagues who have failed time and again and given excuses for 10-0 drubbing. So as long as sachin/ dhoni/ sehwag and now deposed gambhir dont make these statements its ok. I do feel though,theIndia A batsmen should have taken second chance to bat and grind the bowlers confidence further than enforcing follow-on.

  • POSTED BY Sarangarajan on | February 18, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    It is so immature of Tewary to have commented on Austarlian cricketers technique against spin.What about your colleaguse Tewary ? Against Swann and Monty Paneesar not long time ago, Indians were proved novice in tackling quality spin..It was pathetic and we give sermons on playing against spin.Ashwin and Harbhajan are no world class spinners any more as they have been exposed recently by Cook and Co.With Shewag reinstated on reputation only and not on form, Gambhir dropped, Sachin on re-search of his form , no Dravid and Laxman to rescue Indians, are we in for another white wash by the Australians.Austarlians are fighters when the odds are against them. Whereas we are pups when the odds area against us.Some semons by Tewary

  • POSTED BY MaddyModassir on | February 18, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    Murli vijay had got alot of opportunity however he didnt make it...i agree that he is good in IPL but the test match is totally differnent..i dnt think it will be a good decision...Wasim Jaffar is a deserving candidate..he is a most consistant batsman in first class cricket..and technically sound too..WAKE UP SELECTOR!!!!!WAKE UP....

  • POSTED BY GlobalCricketLover on | February 18, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    hmm...big mouth, i must say! If he says all this while still struggling to get in to a Test side, wonder what he would have said if he had played 50 tests! The kind of words he has used shows immaturity for this level. Never had any impression about him (+ve or -ve) in the past, but it's certainly -ve now!!

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | February 18, 2013, 13:37 GMT

    Clarke is an excellent spin player. If Clarke and Watto performs, India will find difficult to contain Aussie. Both sides lack quality spinners. This will be an advantage for Indian batting line up. We have seen in the recent performances that Indian batsmen can't handle any quality bowling - spinning or seaming conditions. However, given that Aussies don't have quality spinners, India has a chance of putting up good fight. Lets see how long the selectors persist with their golden boy Nohit Sharma. Even in the last ODI his performance was good only in one match.

  • POSTED BY MaddyModassir on | February 18, 2013, 13:33 GMT

    Now the Indian team looks mentally very strong as the lost Vs England really suffered them badly and to prepared weel..it would be surely a different ball game with Austrailian.If Indian would have wanted the Win then they should have to play with the Killer instinct.Dhoni had already showed how dangerous he is....and surely is n form too...and the bowling depart is a bit of concern however the yougster show that they have the caliber to demolish the Austrilian Batters...

  • POSTED BY din7 on | February 18, 2013, 12:22 GMT

    yes aus are a weak side and doesnt seem to be winning this series, but tiwary is going too far in his predictions. come on boy this is just a practice game and nothin else..the same happen during eng's practice match..one of spinners in that practice match said eng batsman dont know how to play spin...i dont remember his name and where he's lost now...tiwary though made a funny comment though callin bhajji and aswin quality spinners....

  • POSTED BY cloudmess on | February 18, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    For some reason, Australia are expected to now do well in India, just because England did. Whenever England beat someone, everyone (including the English media) then conclude the opposition must have been rubbish anyway. When we beat Australia in 2005, everyone was then saying "well, the Aussies are a shadow of the side they once were". Australia then won their next 16 test matches, hammering anyone and everyone. India are now fair game at home, goes the thinking, just because England won a test series there. English supporters also think like this, and it is a self-defeating mindset. It is partly why the national team is never consistently successful.

  • POSTED BY TheBigBoodha on | February 18, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    Well, they did manage to claim two second innings wickets while Australia climbed to 195. I make that to be 97.5 runs per bowler's wicket, given that Watson was run out. Maybe Tiwary should think again.

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | February 18, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    "ashwin n harbhajan quality spinners"...not sure about that, india only has 1 decent spinner (ojha) n that's it...i am afraid that tiwary will have to eat his words just like his mates raina n kohli had to after the recent 'revenge' series against eng.

  • POSTED BY Dhanno on | February 18, 2013, 18:21 GMT

    He did redeem himself by saying that Australian youngsters will get better as they gain experience in these conditions and bat better. Atleast he is allowed to speak his mind, he has scored runs whenever given chance in A side. Not much can be said about his illustrious colleagues who have failed time and again and given excuses for 10-0 drubbing. So as long as sachin/ dhoni/ sehwag and now deposed gambhir dont make these statements its ok. I do feel though,theIndia A batsmen should have taken second chance to bat and grind the bowlers confidence further than enforcing follow-on.

  • POSTED BY Sarangarajan on | February 18, 2013, 15:46 GMT

    It is so immature of Tewary to have commented on Austarlian cricketers technique against spin.What about your colleaguse Tewary ? Against Swann and Monty Paneesar not long time ago, Indians were proved novice in tackling quality spin..It was pathetic and we give sermons on playing against spin.Ashwin and Harbhajan are no world class spinners any more as they have been exposed recently by Cook and Co.With Shewag reinstated on reputation only and not on form, Gambhir dropped, Sachin on re-search of his form , no Dravid and Laxman to rescue Indians, are we in for another white wash by the Australians.Austarlians are fighters when the odds are against them. Whereas we are pups when the odds area against us.Some semons by Tewary

  • POSTED BY MaddyModassir on | February 18, 2013, 14:53 GMT

    Murli vijay had got alot of opportunity however he didnt make it...i agree that he is good in IPL but the test match is totally differnent..i dnt think it will be a good decision...Wasim Jaffar is a deserving candidate..he is a most consistant batsman in first class cricket..and technically sound too..WAKE UP SELECTOR!!!!!WAKE UP....

  • POSTED BY GlobalCricketLover on | February 18, 2013, 14:11 GMT

    hmm...big mouth, i must say! If he says all this while still struggling to get in to a Test side, wonder what he would have said if he had played 50 tests! The kind of words he has used shows immaturity for this level. Never had any impression about him (+ve or -ve) in the past, but it's certainly -ve now!!

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | February 18, 2013, 13:37 GMT

    Clarke is an excellent spin player. If Clarke and Watto performs, India will find difficult to contain Aussie. Both sides lack quality spinners. This will be an advantage for Indian batting line up. We have seen in the recent performances that Indian batsmen can't handle any quality bowling - spinning or seaming conditions. However, given that Aussies don't have quality spinners, India has a chance of putting up good fight. Lets see how long the selectors persist with their golden boy Nohit Sharma. Even in the last ODI his performance was good only in one match.

  • POSTED BY MaddyModassir on | February 18, 2013, 13:33 GMT

    Now the Indian team looks mentally very strong as the lost Vs England really suffered them badly and to prepared weel..it would be surely a different ball game with Austrailian.If Indian would have wanted the Win then they should have to play with the Killer instinct.Dhoni had already showed how dangerous he is....and surely is n form too...and the bowling depart is a bit of concern however the yougster show that they have the caliber to demolish the Austrilian Batters...

  • POSTED BY din7 on | February 18, 2013, 12:22 GMT

    yes aus are a weak side and doesnt seem to be winning this series, but tiwary is going too far in his predictions. come on boy this is just a practice game and nothin else..the same happen during eng's practice match..one of spinners in that practice match said eng batsman dont know how to play spin...i dont remember his name and where he's lost now...tiwary though made a funny comment though callin bhajji and aswin quality spinners....

  • POSTED BY cloudmess on | February 18, 2013, 12:10 GMT

    For some reason, Australia are expected to now do well in India, just because England did. Whenever England beat someone, everyone (including the English media) then conclude the opposition must have been rubbish anyway. When we beat Australia in 2005, everyone was then saying "well, the Aussies are a shadow of the side they once were". Australia then won their next 16 test matches, hammering anyone and everyone. India are now fair game at home, goes the thinking, just because England won a test series there. English supporters also think like this, and it is a self-defeating mindset. It is partly why the national team is never consistently successful.

  • POSTED BY TheBigBoodha on | February 18, 2013, 11:06 GMT

    Well, they did manage to claim two second innings wickets while Australia climbed to 195. I make that to be 97.5 runs per bowler's wicket, given that Watson was run out. Maybe Tiwary should think again.

  • POSTED BY heartbreakerz on | February 18, 2013, 10:35 GMT

    "ashwin n harbhajan quality spinners"...not sure about that, india only has 1 decent spinner (ojha) n that's it...i am afraid that tiwary will have to eat his words just like his mates raina n kohli had to after the recent 'revenge' series against eng.

  • POSTED BY ravi_hari on | February 18, 2013, 7:43 GMT

    I think it is India's turn to play the mind games. They are using Manoj for that. It could definitely work if the Indian spinners really turn out to their potential or atleast the hype. After seeing England blunt their spin I am sure Ashwin and Ojha will try different things to get at Aussies. I think that is where Aussie batsmen should counter attack. If Indian spinners stick to basics and bowl to their strengths they will be as successful as Kumble used to. They should not read too much into the batsmen nor should be complacent. On their side the Aussie batsmen should keep the scored card ticking. What Watson says is right, attack before they settle down. Cook and KP did it well and Amla did it earlier. If Watson or Cowan can take over the task of holding up one end, I think the others will contribute and Aussies can negate the spin effect. I feel more than Clarke, Cowan and Watson are crucial for Aussies. With a weak middle and tail, Clarke will find it tough to repeat 2012 form.

  • POSTED BY Jayzuz on | February 18, 2013, 7:32 GMT

    Perhaps we should remember that AUS did well in the UAE, WI and SL recently against better spinners like Ajmal, Herath and Narine. Won all but one of the 5 test/ODI series (and that was a drawn series, vs WI). Not a single wicket for any of the India A pacers in this game (so far), and getting smashed everywhere. This might all backfire on India, esp. if AUS wins the toss in the test. AUS should just open with Watson and Warner. They can belt 200 in the first session against the pacers, then the rest can get another 150 or so. Should be enough.

  • POSTED BY on | February 18, 2013, 7:06 GMT

    What Murli Vijay Doing in the team squad. I donot find him suitable for Indian time at any time. looking his last ten performances he has not done some good performances. he should be replace with some other younger player.

  • POSTED BY on | February 18, 2013, 6:48 GMT

    Tiwary expressed his point of view and we should leave it there. That said, not much should be read in to the results of practice matches. India does hold mental edge over the Aussies based on the results of the last few series in India. It all depends on how well India can raise their game to those levels. They have not been batting to their potential of late and are also let down by a very mediocre bowling attack. This Indian attack can put any pressure on Australians only if the batsmen score enough runs.

  • POSTED BY on | February 18, 2013, 6:48 GMT

    By third Test, Oz batsmen would be experts in handling Indian spinners. So, India, try your best to win the first two tests, with decent margins.

  • POSTED BY binu.emiliya on | February 18, 2013, 6:35 GMT

    The diffrence between IND-ENG and IND-AUS series is Cook+KP+Monty ( i will not include swann after pairing up with monty he also became effective). M Clark can replace cook and KP Watson can match up to KP to some extent,Monty+Swann type bowling combo is missing in the Aus line up.So advantage INDA,still i am not hoping for a series victory for India if batsman can form partnerships they will get this series.I hope Dhoni can play a vital role in this series,becuase he is getting a breathing space in batting when Jadeja,Aswin & Kumar to follow - all three players are decent batsmen

  • POSTED BY on | February 18, 2013, 6:27 GMT

    @indiasupbangalore I agree with you completely..

  • POSTED BY on | February 18, 2013, 6:19 GMT

    @jonesy2 - hang onto that hope mate, it soon may be all you have. India 3-0 is my prediction.

  • POSTED BY indiasupbangalore on | February 18, 2013, 5:34 GMT

    Though I really love the selectors for leaving gambhir out, it is high time dhoni is left out and, it is hard for me to follow the test series against aussies when dhoni is the captain, dhoni does not like test cricket and it is so apparent from his body language. I am going to skip this series, my prediction is australia are going to take this 2-0. It is going to long hard road for india to come back to winning ways in tests.

  • POSTED BY jonesy2 on | February 18, 2013, 4:50 GMT

    if indian players think australia struggle against spin they are going to get a rude shock when warner, watson, clarke, hughes and company are torturing them. if englands hapless batsmen can score runs against india in india then imagine what australia will do, i mean india couldnt get cook out even with their spinners

  • POSTED BY sugwas on | February 18, 2013, 4:41 GMT

    IF Australia can find somebody to do to India what Captain Cook did then they will be too good. They need somebody to bat for a long long time to allow Captain Clark to do his thing. England had major batting contributions from two people, as it stands I can't see where Australia's second batting contribution is going to come from.

  • POSTED BY jaguar7777 on | February 18, 2013, 4:21 GMT

    i am so disappointed at manoj tiwari's comments, he should mind his own business and not make unnecessary and uncalled for digs at the opposition.his stupid comments can motivate the australians and make them more determined to perform against our mediocre spinners,who under helpful conditions failed to impress even the england's tailenders.manoj tiwari's job is to shut up and let his bat do the talking.

  • POSTED BY on | February 18, 2013, 2:53 GMT

    There are 4 quality spinners== Ajmal, Herath, Swann & Panesar. Anyone can get wickets at Chennai but these 4 it seems can get wickets anywhere. But Mr. Tiwary, none of them play for India.

  • POSTED BY Sheikasif on | February 18, 2013, 2:26 GMT

    India' s bowling is its week point and I dont see Australia having any problem with scoring runs against them. Tiwary is a sound prospect to bat in the middle order. Him not bein chosen reeks of discrimination in indian cricket whereby deserving youngesters wait years with an opportunity. Pakistan would have loved to have someone of Tiwari's calibre in their side but indian arrogance is something that has made them a laughing stock even in their home conditions. Dont see any different result this time around against Australia. A whitewash is on the cards for India in tests

  • POSTED BY Meety on | February 18, 2013, 2:08 GMT

    @ screamingeagle on (February 17, 2013, 17:44 GMT) - I agree. That said, there were some question marks about whether Cowan or Watto was out, so I think his comments would of been better had the Ozzys been bowled out, not 4 down.

  • POSTED BY Top-Spinner on | February 18, 2013, 1:21 GMT

    Tiwari is better served to let his bat do the blabbering . Occasional big scores every six months doesn't give him the right to give instructions to the Aussies.

  • POSTED BY dunger.bob on | February 17, 2013, 22:51 GMT

    @ Beertjie on (February 17, 2013, 18:46 GMT) : I agree with that assessment. When you consider that maybe Warner and Clarke could be unfit for the first Test it could a slaughter. .. Hughes and Kwawaja are going to be just so important to our fortunes. Neither has much (or is that any?) experience in India so their learning curves are going to be about as steep as it gets. I don't think there is any way that Pup can keep us afloat on his own so these younger blokes simply MUST step up if we are to be any chance at all. To be honest my expectations for this tour are pretty low. I think it's too much to ask this team of rookies to get themselves accustomed to Indian conditions on the back of two practice matches, especially Hughes. .. his trip hammer technique doesn't leave him much margin for error imo. .. With Hughes its wait, wait, wait then whoosh .. unless he gets it exactly right, the slips will think its Christmas.

  • POSTED BY Nerk on | February 17, 2013, 22:51 GMT

    In my mind, Clarke is the only player in this current Australian team that looks comfortable against quality spin bowling. Granted, this has something to do with the fact that most of the current Australian line up has not really played test cricket in spinning conditions before. I forsee two things happening. Firstly, Australia's batsmen learn to play spin very, very quickly and win the series OR they get a thrashing, losing the series, but learn for the next tour, provided the selectors don't start rotating everyone again.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 21:52 GMT

    Just do what england did. Use Lyon and Doherty as Swann and Panesar and Starc and Siddle as Anderson and Bresnan. Sachin is weaklink, no Umesh, Ashwin lost his form and Jadeja can't play quick bowling upto 140ks.

  • POSTED BY Behind_the_bowlers_arm on | February 17, 2013, 21:33 GMT

    He is probably right. In such a change of conditions (same as when India come to Australia) batsmen need 3 or 4 innings at least to adapt and work on a method to succeed. Australia's preparation has been inadequate and India have a great chance to have them out of the series before theyve even got their bearings. And even ONE hit for the captain and Warner. Escaping defeat in the First Test will be an astonishing achievement.

  • POSTED BY gsingh7 on | February 17, 2013, 21:26 GMT

    i agree to tiwary, these aussie batsmen are lacking aptitude for playing spin on low tracks. if they attack much they wud be whitewashed like last 2 trips to india, even hussey and ponting were present that time. so i predict 3-0 or 4-0 to india.

  • POSTED BY Unmesh_cric on | February 17, 2013, 20:46 GMT

    Good on ya, Tiwary! One thing that Tiwari said was very true. If the fringe players like Tiwary, Rohit Sharma, Rahane fail in just one match (like India A match or Irani trophy match), their chances of Test selection are severely affected. There is only one spot available right now in the Test team i.e. No.6 position. Dhoni seems more keen on picking Jadeja instead of Rahane. I hope Rahane gets a chance in this Test series. I also hope that guys like Tiwary and Sharma are given a chance in Tests once Tendulkar retires.

  • POSTED BY Beertjie on | February 17, 2013, 18:46 GMT

    Spot on @Mr_Ronan on (February 17, 2013, 18:12 GMT). But the lack of exposure to Indian conditions is going to hurt Cowan, Hughes, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Maxwell, etc. I have little confidence in most of the others like Warner too. Even if the Indian spinners appear toothless now, these Aussies will bring them back to form! Still the fighting qualities of our boys should never be underestimated even with one hand tied behind our backs (by our own selectors!).

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | February 17, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    Lets look at Tiwari's comments. Ashwin has not proven himself as a quality spinner. Bhajji is past great but very ordinary in the present form. Ojha can be effective if conditions suits him. Indian bowling cupboard is nearly empty. Board didn't do favor by picking young spinner in the India A team. Instead, they picked spinners than have no chance in making in the test eleven.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    lot of talk from a guy with horrible technique against short pitch bowling

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 18:18 GMT

    Well hard to get your technique against spin sorted when you see the spinners we have plus the pitches being prepared down under.

  • POSTED BY Mr_Ronan on | February 17, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    HAHAHA!! Tiwary is handing out tips on technique to Test cricketers??! He has played First Class cricket for 9 years and still never played Test cricket! So he might want to actually get a game for India before offering advice to international players! And Watto is 100% correct in his statement that the batsmen must be assertive against the spinners. As he correctly observes, in Indian conditions if you are timid against spinners and allow them to hit the same spot over and over, eventually one delivery will do something strange and dismiss you. You must change the spinners length by using your feet and/or the sweep shot where possible. This is how Aussie batsmen like Hussey, Hayden and Clarke have dominated spinners in the past.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    if ashwin could bowl well he could become a good all rounder :)

  • POSTED BY screamingeagle on | February 17, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Despite keecha preferring the Indians being on 'Yes Sir, well played' mode; I rather like Tiwari (or anyone else) speaking their mind. He played well, the team did well, so what is wrong in saying so? Well done guys.

  • POSTED BY keecha on | February 17, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    M.Tiwari could actually do more good by only letting his bat and ball talk. It is a very bad idea to give comments like these before the start of a tour. What if Australia whitewash India and if their spinners outperforms Indians and their batsmen play Indian spinners better during the actual matches? One can't eat the words once said. I really wish no one lets out looseners like these and just do all the talking through actions on the field. All the best Team India.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    I liked everything tht Tiwary said but could'nt stop laughing when he said,"Quality spinners"....Bhajji is unlikely to make it to the XI...Ashwin has turned out to be a better batsman than bowler....and Ojha if attacked can't retaliate as seen in Peiterson's assault in the Eng series and in Tendulkar's assault in the Irani Cup...Jadeja looks to be the lone spinner in the team...and he has been selected as a batsman....Comin 2 Tiwary,can't help but sympathize with him...Deserves to be a part of the ODI and Test team.....maybe someday whn the selectors realize tht rohit sharma is not cricket material,we might see tiwary playin for India again

  • POSTED BY Samdanh on | February 17, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    Attack spin? Do so at your own peril. Learn from what Eng did after crumbling to 190 odd while on "aimless attack mode" in their first innings of their recent series in India. Once they changed to mode of petience, occupation of the crease, playing long innnings from their second innings of their series, and once they brought in two specialist spinnners, things started turning around for them and all hard work resulted in 2-1 series win for England! Learn Aus learn. Attack, and you are doomed!!

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  • POSTED BY Samdanh on | February 17, 2013, 16:56 GMT

    Attack spin? Do so at your own peril. Learn from what Eng did after crumbling to 190 odd while on "aimless attack mode" in their first innings of their recent series in India. Once they changed to mode of petience, occupation of the crease, playing long innnings from their second innings of their series, and once they brought in two specialist spinnners, things started turning around for them and all hard work resulted in 2-1 series win for England! Learn Aus learn. Attack, and you are doomed!!

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 17:07 GMT

    I liked everything tht Tiwary said but could'nt stop laughing when he said,"Quality spinners"....Bhajji is unlikely to make it to the XI...Ashwin has turned out to be a better batsman than bowler....and Ojha if attacked can't retaliate as seen in Peiterson's assault in the Eng series and in Tendulkar's assault in the Irani Cup...Jadeja looks to be the lone spinner in the team...and he has been selected as a batsman....Comin 2 Tiwary,can't help but sympathize with him...Deserves to be a part of the ODI and Test team.....maybe someday whn the selectors realize tht rohit sharma is not cricket material,we might see tiwary playin for India again

  • POSTED BY keecha on | February 17, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    M.Tiwari could actually do more good by only letting his bat and ball talk. It is a very bad idea to give comments like these before the start of a tour. What if Australia whitewash India and if their spinners outperforms Indians and their batsmen play Indian spinners better during the actual matches? One can't eat the words once said. I really wish no one lets out looseners like these and just do all the talking through actions on the field. All the best Team India.

  • POSTED BY screamingeagle on | February 17, 2013, 17:44 GMT

    Despite keecha preferring the Indians being on 'Yes Sir, well played' mode; I rather like Tiwari (or anyone else) speaking their mind. He played well, the team did well, so what is wrong in saying so? Well done guys.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 17:56 GMT

    if ashwin could bowl well he could become a good all rounder :)

  • POSTED BY Mr_Ronan on | February 17, 2013, 18:12 GMT

    HAHAHA!! Tiwary is handing out tips on technique to Test cricketers??! He has played First Class cricket for 9 years and still never played Test cricket! So he might want to actually get a game for India before offering advice to international players! And Watto is 100% correct in his statement that the batsmen must be assertive against the spinners. As he correctly observes, in Indian conditions if you are timid against spinners and allow them to hit the same spot over and over, eventually one delivery will do something strange and dismiss you. You must change the spinners length by using your feet and/or the sweep shot where possible. This is how Aussie batsmen like Hussey, Hayden and Clarke have dominated spinners in the past.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 18:18 GMT

    Well hard to get your technique against spin sorted when you see the spinners we have plus the pitches being prepared down under.

  • POSTED BY on | February 17, 2013, 18:22 GMT

    lot of talk from a guy with horrible technique against short pitch bowling

  • POSTED BY AvidCricFan on | February 17, 2013, 18:45 GMT

    Lets look at Tiwari's comments. Ashwin has not proven himself as a quality spinner. Bhajji is past great but very ordinary in the present form. Ojha can be effective if conditions suits him. Indian bowling cupboard is nearly empty. Board didn't do favor by picking young spinner in the India A team. Instead, they picked spinners than have no chance in making in the test eleven.

  • POSTED BY Beertjie on | February 17, 2013, 18:46 GMT

    Spot on @Mr_Ronan on (February 17, 2013, 18:12 GMT). But the lack of exposure to Indian conditions is going to hurt Cowan, Hughes, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Maxwell, etc. I have little confidence in most of the others like Warner too. Even if the Indian spinners appear toothless now, these Aussies will bring them back to form! Still the fighting qualities of our boys should never be underestimated even with one hand tied behind our backs (by our own selectors!).