India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad, 3rd day March 3, 2013

Warne's advice helped - Doherty


Xavier Doherty has said Shane Warne's words of advice helped both him and Glenn Maxwell keep their confidence up as they struggled for impact on the difficult second day in Hyderabad. Doherty and Maxwell eventually earned some rewards after toiling through a 370-run stand between Cheteshwar Pujara and M Vijay, the third-highest Test partnership ever compiled against Australia for any wicket by any country.

Maxwell broke the stand when he had Vijay caught tucking a ball to leg slip and it started a more pleasant period for the team in which they collected 9 for 116. Maxwell finished with 4 for 127 and Doherty picked up 3 for 131. After the day's play, Doherty said the 20-minute meeting Warne had with the players after the loss in Chennai had reminded them that even the best foreign spinners have found India a tough assignment.

"We knew it was going to be hard. They're very good players of spin," Doherty said. "Warnie came down and spoke to the spinning group post first Test and he said he averaged 45 over here, Murali averaged 47 or something like that - I'm not sure if they're accurate but that's what he said. So some of the best bowlers in the world do battle over here.

"We knew it was going to be tough but it's just about grinding away. They weren't just going to walk off. You've got to keep going and really try to apply some pressure and move your field and just try little things, which is what we did. Maxi got that breakthrough and after that it got a little bit easier. I was prepared. The two Tests I've played previously were that tough. I know how tough it can be."

Doherty turned a few balls past the bat and had a very close lbw shout turned down when Pujara was on 174 but eventually claimed his first wicket when R Ashwin edged to second slip. Before that delivery, Doherty's Test bowling average had crept up to 143.33, but by the end of the innings his three wickets had brought it down to 72.83. He conceded that until the edge from Ashwin, it felt like a breakthrough just wasn't going to come.

"It was starting to look that way, particularly with that close lbw which I thought was pretty good," Doherty said. "Things just didn't seem to be going my way. I was trying to work out my Test bowling average there at one stage because I came into the game at a hundred. In the last five or six overs, it was just more pleasing how the ball started to come out. It did take a while for it to take a bit of rhythm. To get a couple of wickets was nice as well."

Doherty knows that his place in the team is far from secure and that offspinner Nathan Lyon will be in contention for a recall for the third Test in Mohali. A phlegmatic type of player who takes criticism in his stride and knows his game well, Doherty said he was not fussed by the debate around his place in the team, including comments from Stuart MacGill last week that he "is not a Test bowler".

"I am well aware there are people that want me in the team and people that don't want me in the team," he said, "but that is the nature of being at this level."

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Joe on March 5, 2013, 6:02 GMT

    I might add that two genuine spinners on this track - say Lyon and O'Keefe/Hauritz - would have been very interesting to watch. Ashwin is no great bowler, about the same as the guys mentioned above, statistically speaking. The conditions are making him look good, combined with inexperienced batsmen in the these conditions. Actually, O'Keefe's stats are better at first class level, at least in terms of averages.

  • Joe on March 5, 2013, 5:58 GMT

    I'm afraid the reality is that the pitch is rolled mud, and has been a spinner's paradise since the middle of day 3. No doubt Doherty and Maxwell did what was expected of them - in the end. But on this track, all a spinner has to do is land the ball, and the wickets will flow. The last 18 wickets in the game have fallen for 240 odd runs, all but 2 of them to spin if I am correct. The team batting last in India is almost always going to lose. Australia haven't scored enough 1st innings runs to take advantage of batting first.

  • Dummy4 on March 5, 2013, 5:47 GMT

    yes warne advice helped to bowl in INDIA not to take wickets at the needed time

  • Dummy4 on March 5, 2013, 5:26 GMT

    Cricket Australia and its selectors have made some peculiar decisions this summer, however the dropping of Lyon is the worst selection blunder in living memory and confirms their incompetence. What possible justification is there for this decision? He is a genuine wicket taker who in the last game took the wickets of Sehwag, Tendulkar, Kohli and Ashwin. It is unacceptable to say they have blundered 'in hindsight' when every man and his dog was criticising the decision at the time it was made. It is time for CA to acknowledge the poor performance of its cricket department and implement changes to restore the confidence of the Australian cricketing public.

  • Dummy4 on March 5, 2013, 4:57 GMT

    Yeah it really helped - Doherty did awesome... oh wait...

    He is a terrible spinner and should never have been on this tour. He only was because of injuries and for some reason the selectors hate O'Keefe.

    Doherty wouldn't get in the Zimbabwe test team for heaven sake.

  • Andrew on March 5, 2013, 2:57 GMT

    "I am well aware there are people that want me in the team and people that don't want me in the team," - a shame, but true. He did show a lot of charactor though in finishing off the tail. Whilst I was probably one of a fair few that were a bit underwhelmed by his selection in the squad - at the expense of demonstrably better Shield performer, Doherty did bowl 15 maidens & his run rate was below 3 rpo. If you can't take wickets - don't give runs away, & he sort of achieved that. He took 30 runs off his bowling average in the process. == == == Maxwell's selection in the Oz team caused plenty of comments, but you HAVE to say, he is consistant. He is statistically good at FC level, & he bettered those figures in one innings. Although going @ near 5 rpo was not what Oz wanted. I would have to say that his bowling performance as a batting allrounder - was above par, as a specialist spinner - probably about par. Pity his batting was a fail! Got a feeling he MIGHT make some runs today!

  • John on March 5, 2013, 2:48 GMT

    @Mervin John on (March 4, 2013, 20:20 GMT), the likelihood of Panesar playing in the Ashes is pretty much nil unless Swann gets injured. Remember that he sat out one Test in each of UAE, SL and India so do you really think they'll play him in tandem with Swann at home when they're reticent to do it in those conditions? Swann will no doubt be looking forward to bowling to so many lefties but, like England, Australia are likely to play spin a bit differently when not on tailor-made pitches. This performance by Australia doesn't necessarily mean lots of wickets for England spinners in the Ashes but I would still expect Swann particularly to be a significant factor.

  • Vishwa on March 5, 2013, 2:04 GMT

    Winning Combination with Order of Batting for 3rd Test: 1. Cowan 2. Watson 3. Warner 4. Clarke 5. Henriques 6. Wade 7. Maxwel 8. Siddle 9. Patttinson 10. Lyon 11. Dohery

  • TR on March 5, 2013, 2:01 GMT

    This is something I just dont understand.. The retired greats such as Warne/Murali/McGarth have to travel and volunteer for free coaching? I do see some even go as commentators. But I feel many are not hired as specialist coaches for the next generation. I feel these experts' talents are wasted. Why dont we see these greats like Warne/Murali/McGarth/ etc etc not being hired by the respective boards to help the next gen teams? Is it financial issue OR ego issues OR the players (in the current national team) dont ask for it? OR the current hired coaches would not allow that? It also needs to happen "in time". For example Warne as of now can demonstrate what he teaches. After some years he may not be able to do that. So would be the pace bowlers. They need to be used immediately after their retirement - for the benefit of maintaining / improving cricket quality.

  • Amit on March 5, 2013, 1:49 GMT

    What a joke! He got wickets only when Indian batsmen started slogging.

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