India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad, 4th day

Clarke to move up the order

Brydon Coverdale

March 5, 2013

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Michael Clarke has confirmed that he will move up the order from his customary No. 5 position after Australia's shambolic display in both innings in Hyderabad. Clarke is the joint leading run-scorer in the series with 268, the same tally as India's captain MS Dhoni, and more than double scored by any other member of Australia's top six.

He scored 130 in the first innings in Chennai and followed that with 91 on the first day in Hyderabad but neither effort could prevent a heavy defeat. Despite his outstanding form since taking over the captaincy in 2011, Clarke has steadfastly remained at No. 5, but given the struggles of Phillip Hughes and Shane Watson at Nos. 3 and 4 in this series, that will change for the third Test.

"I think I have no choice," Clarke said after the innings loss in Hyderabad. "Again, it hasn't been about me, it's about trying to do what's best for the team, and I think now, especially in these conditions, I have to bat higher."

When asked if that would mean first drop or second drop, Clarke said: "I've got nine days to work it out. Wherever I can go and put some runs on the board to help the team."

Although Ed Cowan showed some signs during the second innings that he had learnt from his first three efforts and occupied the crease for nearly three hours, the rest of the batting order collapsed. So far in this series Watson has made 28, 17, 23 and 9; Hughes has scored 6, 0, 19 and 0; Cowan has managed 29, 32, 4 and 44 and Warner has tallied 59, 23, 6 and 26.

"I don't think picking your batting order can revolve around one person, the team needs the team to play well," Clarke said. "We need our top six batters to be scoring runs, we need our four, five or six bowlers to be taking wickets. It can't be about one person. I've never played cricket that way and I don't want this team to go to that.

"We have enough talent, but we have to get better, every single one of us. I would have liked more runs in the first innings and more runs today in the second innings, so I have work to do as well. I don't want it to be about the individuals, I want it to be about the whole team improving.

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Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (March 6, 2013, 21:36 GMT)

That's the most pragmatic decision. While you are at it, get in Khawaja and Lyon into the final XI.

Posted by AKS286 on (March 6, 2013, 15:04 GMT)

Usman Khawaja will be the another member of Highly overrated FlopStars. Khawaja is a ordinary below average batsman. S.Marsh, Voges, Ferguson, Doolan, Cosgrove, Birt, Quiney, North, Klinger, Roger, etc are far far Better than khawaja.

Posted by Jay.Raj on (March 6, 2013, 14:51 GMT)

I still think if Hussey was there, Him and Clarke wouldve posted 300+ run partnerships.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 11:53 GMT)

Clarke can't bat below 3. Absolutely no excuse if he does so as he's BADLY needed as high up the order as this team will allow. The 'balance' he has spoken about previously in regards to his batting at 5 just hasn't been there, with four openers in the top 4, your keeper batting in a specialist bat position, and the recent experiment of playing 2 all-rounders in Maxwell and Henriques. Go back to basics. I would have 1 Watson 2 Warner 3 Clarke 4 Cowan 5 Khawaja 6 Henriques 7 Wade 8 Johnson* 9 Pattinson 10 Doherty** 11 Lyon.

2 openers. A better looking middle order. 1 all-rounder. 2 spinners and 2 seamers (better balance for the conditions).

*Johnson comes in as I think Siddle could do with a rest. Johnson's aggression and being a lefty could be more useful than Siddle, who's been outbowled by Pattinson.

**Doherty in as a left-arm foil for the right armed Lyon. Would rather our specialist spinner be given the benefit over a limited overs specialist masquerading as a test player.

Posted by kentjones on (March 6, 2013, 11:53 GMT)

A word of caution here for Clarke and Australia. Remember folks cricket above all else is a game of the mind. Clarke has grown accustomed to batting at no. 5 and he has performed excellently, if I dare so remarkably so, at this position, no matter the state of the game or the state of the pitch. To my mind this is his groove slot and it works for him. Although moving up even one notch may appear to be innocuous, it can and may take time to adjust, since the psychology and thinking at that position is not the same. Ask Chanderpaul, he has refused to go higher in the WI order, although he is one of the most consistent batters in the game today. Study some of the greats, Lara, Ponting and Tendulkar who batted at different positions, one will discover that there is one position they perform best at, where they are most comfortable. Clarke performs best at no. 5, leave him be! The problem is the other guys, let them shape up or ship out and get batters who can do the business.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

Move him up the order and keep him there! Aussies need it. Especially so that he can face the new ball against Finn & Anderson on the greens of England ;)

Posted by Raja_Udhayasuriyan on (March 6, 2013, 8:12 GMT)

Its a phase which every team goes through in its transition period... Clarke and his men will bounce back... just like India is doing now after the 0-8 and 1-2 humiliation, they are peaking again into #2 spot... Aussie cricketers are known for their grit, skill and aggression... grit and aggression are available now, skill will develop soon :)

Posted by raks_pace on (March 6, 2013, 7:41 GMT)

Watson has better avg as a opener than any other positions while batting. This should be the batting order and team for Australia if they want to avoid whitewash - Warner, Watson, Cowan, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Johnson, Siddle, Pattinson and Lyon.

Posted by Mary_786 on (March 6, 2013, 7:12 GMT)

Australian cricket can only improve from here. At last! Clarke will bat higher up, Hughes needs to go,and Cowan will meet the same fate if he doesn't convert his 20s and 30s. Khawaja is a bright star in the team but for heaven's sake give the kid a real run and not one game. Australia facing Test-series whitewash in India, and there is not doubt that Clarke clueless on Watson's batting woes, Clarke says anger won't help Aussies, and that change is needed before The Ashes, and its my belief that Australian cricket has finally gone around the bend but we ned to pick players based on merit and not on who is close to the captain and coach.

Posted by raj_n on (March 6, 2013, 7:02 GMT)

Looks like Hussey expected this and therefore retired before time. He didnt want his average to fall below 50. Am I thinking too much like an Indian ?

Posted by RohanKamal on (March 6, 2013, 6:59 GMT)

Clarke should bat at no. 4, batting at no. 5 even after retirement of Ponting is a sense less strategy irrespective of present team performance in India.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 6:59 GMT)

The Australian Selectors are paying the price for poor selection. Please bring back Hussey, Pointing and Andrew Symonds, Watson is not a test batsman . Please ask Hussey and Pointing to rethink retirement now

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 6:23 GMT)

I never seen weakest Australian team as this australian team is. Even Clarke hasn't Test class likes of Border, S. Waugh. No quality spinner in the team.

Posted by crazy_heads on (March 6, 2013, 6:15 GMT)

Glad to see Clarke give-up his position for the team benefit and sad to see Aussies come down to this level...

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 6:09 GMT)

They do miss Michel Hussey !!

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (March 6, 2013, 6:02 GMT)

Philip Hughes has been comfortably the worst performed batsman on either side this series. His scores read:

6, 0, 19, 0. Total of 25 runs, average 6.25. His overall average is now 33.25 after 22 tests, remembering that after 7 tests he averaged in the 60s, thus meaning that in the 15 tests since then, he has averaged just 25.53. He has been dumped twice. In his second incarnation he averaged some 27.69 in 7 tests before being dropped. In his third incarnation, after starting with an easy home series against Sri Lanka, he has now plummeted again and has averaged just 28.67 in that time. He is in appalling form and has to be dropped.

The only player who is in any way doing worse is Ed Cowan, whose overall test average is just 31.96, the only batsman in the team with an average lower than the one that Phil Hughes possesses.

I personally would dump both and give Khawaja and Smith a go.

Posted by sriram_iyengar on (March 6, 2013, 5:56 GMT)

Move Wade up the order as (he is comfortable against spin), Watson down (will make him bat free), drop Hughes. Any day Siddle, Pattinson, Starc are the best bowlers for Australia at this point. Play them. After seeing all 3 spinners in action Lyon looks the best of the lot. Play him.

1. Warner 2. Cowan 3. Wade 4. Clarke 5. Khwaja 6. Watson 7. Henriques 8. Siddle 9. Starc 10. Pattinson 11. Lyon

Posted by AMAZINGFAN on (March 6, 2013, 5:53 GMT)

i think this ASHES will be clarke vs eng......most of AUS batsmen struggle against swinging ball,they can't even handle bhuvneshwar kumar who swings the ball in mid 120's,just imagine how aus players will cope up against andeson,finn etc who swings the ball in 140s... tough times ahead for aus...IMO clarke shud bat at no.3 to avoid his team getting humiliated....

Posted by zenboomerang on (March 6, 2013, 5:50 GMT)

Should have added the Chennai (one off) 380 - but even then only 3 batsmen got some runs but failed to go on to a higher level...

Posted by zenboomerang on (March 6, 2013, 5:46 GMT)

Doesn't really matter where Clarke bats if the other batsmen are the same players - shuffling cards won't help... We really did bring over the wrong squad... Bailey has proven that stepping up to international level suits him... Voges is another that when asked performed for Oz & is a handy LAO bowler... They both look much more self confident & settled than some of the young guys... Not much we could have done with the bowling (except O'Keefe) - but runs set up matches & gives bowlers time to try different methods while putting the opposition under pressure - something Oz has failed to do in its 8 innings in India - a top score of 241 is ridiculous in anyones books...

Posted by AjuNair on (March 6, 2013, 5:21 GMT)

Aus should have to do something seriously. no need for them to panic..it was after a defeat England came back strongly and won the series..still Aus can draw the series...Drop Hughes and Bring in Usman Khawaja...Drop Doherty and bring Ashton Agar- can be a Xfactor...drop Siddle and bring back Starc or Lyon...Clarke should bat at no.3..team with batting order.. 1.Warner 2.Cowan 3.Clarke 4.Watson 5.Khawaja 6. Wade 7.Maxwell 8. Henriques 9. Agar 10.Pattinson 11.Starc..

Posted by Ganga789 on (March 6, 2013, 5:15 GMT)

Sorry - wrong decision imo. The issue is not with Clarkes batting place. It is not as if he has been batting so low down as to remain not out batting with the tail. The issue is Aus inability to exploit the weaknesses in Indian attack. In fact there is precious little difference between the two teams. Minus Clarke the rest of the lot could still post 250 in innings 1 in Chennai. Take out Dhonis masterpiece in Chennai & THAT one partnership in Hyd═Á what difference is there between the teams? Sehwag Sachin Jadeja all are out of form with the bat. The demons are SOLELY IN THE HEAD of Aussies. Just need to play the patience game on the field. For Aus Big positive from Hyd is - excellent catching and fielding to restrict India to 500 AFTER that mammoth partnership.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 4:57 GMT)

It does not make sense if the captain wants the team's best batsman to play at #5, in this case, himself. He should ideally be batting at one down, for he has been virtually doing that for some time now, coming in at 3 for not much on the board. Ed Cowan is the only gentleman in the team worth a long rope. He has the application and is willing to knuckle down. Warner lives true to his reputation as a glorified slogger. If Watson cannot bowl, he must bat, and bat long. If not, why is he wearing the white flannels? Henriques looks good. Who is this guy Khawaja? Why not try him? Any way the other guys are failing so miserably, so if Khawaja fails, it at least gives him a sighter. What is the point in having Maxwell in there? guys, get Lyon in. If your top 6 batsmen won't get runs, how do you expect a #8 allrounder to rescue you? If he was that skilled he must be in as the top order batsman. So get him out, get Lyon in. Clarke can bowl left arm spin, get a batsman in for Doherty.

Posted by hris on (March 6, 2013, 4:50 GMT)

all those talking about Khawaja, he is no better than Hughes against spin.

Posted by Mitcher on (March 6, 2013, 4:43 GMT)

@z0mbiezom: I'm pretty sure D Hussey wasn't picked because he really never was that good. And Hodge because he has moved on to the Bangladesh Hit and Giggle League. Granted they couldnt have done worse that the guys there but what's the point in going back to these old 'never weres'?

Posted by veerakannadiga on (March 6, 2013, 4:12 GMT)

Cook - Good, Amla -Better, Clarke - Best. - presently in Test Cricket.God Bless us All -from a loyal Dravid fan.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 4:10 GMT)

I am sorry but I never expected that AUS team would be this bad.

Posted by FREEMONEY on (March 6, 2013, 3:07 GMT)

The writing was on the wall when this squad was announced.

I really hope Clarke doesn't fail at 3 because we are going to be in all sorts of trouble if he does (again). This is not my test side but its the best side that can be chosen considering the squad.

Watson - Has to open or he is worthless to us. Warner Cowan - If he throws his innings away again , must be dropped. He is a grinder! Clarke Smith - (Doolan should have been given the opportunity) Wade Henriques Maxwell - Deserves another go and a chance to improve. Pattinson Starc / Bird if he was not sent home because of another INJURY Doherty - Should not be on this tour! ( Okeefe should be here but batting 9)

Posted by KhanMitch on (March 6, 2013, 2:39 GMT)

I still think we could improve our batting order considerably if we kept Wade at number 7. His technique isn't perfect, but he's got a great eye and has excellent timing for a number 7. And hell, he's already outperforming the other batsmen in the squad, bar Clarke and maybe Warner!Let's just get Hartley and Hauritz on the next flight over, and send Hughes and Doherty back. What I would like to see: Cowan, Warner, Khawaja, Clarke, Watson, Henriques, Wade, Pattinson, Starc, O'Keefe, Lyon 12: Glenn 'Brilliant fielding' Maxwell And no Watson is not the first one to go, it should be Cowan as Watto can bowl and hasn't yet been given the opp to bat as opener. Cowan continues to go past 30 and is averaging the same after 15 tests in a row. Yes he got 40 yesterday but he was dropped on 0 so lets not talk up his 40 like it was a match saving innings. Watson, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Khawaja looks like a much better top 5.

Posted by ifrakurshid on (March 6, 2013, 2:26 GMT)

Australian capt to go up in batting was felt by many at no3 but if goes early on that no the is likely to suffer more appears their are other reason too which are not comming up on the surface it may take some more time or some more poor outing from him on the field. Spin is the weakness presently of the team which should not be normally, But one can never be sure that it may work going up the order ofr batting being the best run getter for the yellows.GOOD LUCK.

Posted by TRAM on (March 6, 2013, 2:25 GMT)

Brydon, regarding: >>>So far in this series Watson has made 28, 17, 23 and 9; Hughes has scored 6, 0, 19 and 0; Cowan has managed 29, 32, 4 and 44 and Warner has tallied 59, 23, 6 and 26<<<

Please dont set the trend of replacing above players. Otherwise Indians will also have to replace someone who has scores of (0, 2, 19, 6) in the last 4 innings - his name is Mr. Sehwag. In fact his last 9 innings are: 25, 30, 9, 23, 49, 0, 2, 19, 6.

But you would get philosophical if you see, Indians selectors would drop most consistent players in FC cricket after 2 or 3 failures only in India team with scores of 56,6,1 against full SA team (Badrinath) and within 10 innings of 11,25,1,48, 62, 0, 49, 12, 0, 3 in foreign conditions where most other Indian batsmen failed.

Posted by No_1_again on (March 6, 2013, 2:05 GMT)

@Nilesh_T;Totaly agree. Watson and Hughes are burden to Australian team. May be for shorter format. I like to see Stac stead of Siddle who is a steady bowler but he lacks the wicket taking bowls as we saw in second SAF test in Adelaide.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 1:53 GMT)

Clarke moving up will only cloak the fact of poor approach and skill of other regular batsmen. In these days of compressed schedules players do not really have enough time to fix their technical issues and even mental approaches. Yet given the relatively longer gap between Hyderabad and Mohali, the ozs can do some minor adjustment in personnel, batting order in addition to reassess their techniques and temperament. A stronger play by Ozs and a close finish in Mohali can spice up the Test and bring us back the memories of the tough contests between the two teams during the noughties. India should also yearn for a good scrap as it will prime them for the formidable tour to South Africa later this year.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (March 6, 2013, 1:53 GMT)

I don't know why many people are adamant that Hughes should be dropped. He's not the first young Australian batsman to struggle on their first Indian tour. That and batting at 3 rather than opening, he's having to learn a to bat in a new position as well as foreign conditions. Leave him there and he will be better for it when he goes to India next time in 2017.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (March 6, 2013, 1:46 GMT)

Open with Hughes. Never in his entire career has he had to come into bat and face spinners straight away. At least if he opens he will have 10-15 overs of pace before the spinners come on. We know that once he gets to 20-30 he usually goes on to make 80+. Bat Clarke at 3 in India, he will be facing spinners early wherever he bats. Warner at 4, Watson at 5, Henriques 6, Wade 7, Fly O'Keefe over at 8, Pattinson 9, Siddle 10 and Lyon 11.

Posted by Jedi029 on (March 6, 2013, 1:28 GMT)

No.4 would be suitable for Clarke in the batting order. Despite his awesome from I don't see him as a No.3 batsmen. Maybe Uzi as 3 and rest Hughes. Watson needs to start bowling again because specialist batsmen don't average less than 40 in international cricket.Lyon and Doherty to bowl in the 3rd test, 15 maidens from Doherty proves he 'can' contain the batting whilst Lyon is a more attacking spinner. Keep Henriques because his bowling has been very tidy throughout the series so far. Its probably time to give Mitch Johnson a go as well while he is in good form, rest Siddle for the Ashes.

My XI for the third test (batting order). 1. Warner 2. Cowan 3. Khawaja 4. Clarke 5. Watson 6. Wade 7. Henriques 8. Johnson 9. Pattinson 10. Doherty 11. Lyon

Posted by featurewriter on (March 6, 2013, 1:15 GMT)

A lot of talk here about bringing Khawaja into the lineup. I still don't believe the guy is ready for the Test arena. I think a lot of selection issues have been clouded by outdated standards. In my opinion, if a cricketer is playing first-class cricket and performing, they should be selected on merit - not on age or potential. There are a number of really poor selections in this squad (and then the Test team selections have been poor as well). Smith, Maxwell and Doherty should not have been included in the squad. Hauritz and potentially Krezja should have gone to India. From a batting perspective, I would have included Hadidn and David Hussey - who has considerable experience on the sub-continent and has the ability to bowl credible, wicket-tacking spin. I also think two Tasmanian players should be considered for the Ashes: Butterworth and Doolan. As for Test selections in India, Johnson would have been in my team every time - and I would have gone two spinners in Chennai. Big mistake

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 0:31 GMT)

C'mon. u can rearrange the deck chairs any which way but the good ship Oz is still the Titanic in India. Doesnt matter who they pick they simply dont have the technique to succeed against quality spinners in India. In the same way India is a hopeless side outside its own conditions. Current events really magnify the greatness of Englands recent performance in India.

Posted by Meety on (March 6, 2013, 0:23 GMT)

@Ozcricketwriter on (March 5, 2013, 10:47 GMT) - I would have Clarke @ #5 for the Ashes, but here in India - a place where he really does seem untroubled (2 of his dismissals in this series have been to brilliant deliveries). I would be happy with a temporary move up the order.

Posted by hycIass on (March 6, 2013, 0:14 GMT)

We have been comprehensively out-played by India. And yes, we're all right to be pretty angry by our sub-standard performances. However, the last thing we need before the Ashes is a spree of vast, whole-sale changes. We just need to revert to a simple formula. Six batsmen, one keeper, three quicks and a spinner. It'd also help if all those positions we filled with the best candidates, rather than Maxw, Xavier and Ed.Five bowlers is a no-no. Especially when we see how much it is our batsmen that are letting the team down. Sacrificing a specialist at six for a bowler and having Wade at six is terribly unbalancing to the side.I'd argue for some changes, but not a team overhaul. Watson should open at Cowan's expense with Khawaja(a key man for the ashes) coming into the middle order. I think the bowling unit should consist of Siddle, Pattinson and Bird. The argument for four quicks is a valid one and I'm not opposed to it. But I think for team balance we should have Lyon back in

Posted by smashNgrab on (March 6, 2013, 0:04 GMT)

What made Australia so good before was their world class middle order. What made them unbeatable was Gilchrist. Watson should go back to being an All-Rounder and bat at 5,6 or 7 as the joker in the pack. Gilchrist started out that way and became the "big wicket" after the top order failed. Watson started off batting in front of Gilchrist when he was younger and he still has that X factor in an innings. Clarke can bat anywhere, he's not the problem. Smash n grab early with Warner and Marsh and Voges. YES, Marsh! Langer/Hayden reborn! Then look at 3,4,5 but put Henriques, Watson and Wade in after Clarke in whatever position you like. This idea that a t20 batsman can't play test cricket is nonsense.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (March 5, 2013, 23:51 GMT)

Some people are advocating leaving Clarke at #5 because he's doing so well there. Clarke is now one of the best, if not the best, batsman in the world. I believe, as many others do, that he is good enough that he can succeed anywhere. I don't think that moving up to #3 or #4 will significantly reduce his productivity, if at all. Even if it does, if that is offset by a greater increase in output from the other batsmen then it's a net gain and, as Clarke says, it's about the team, not an individual. Of course, this is all predicated on an increase in productivity from the other batsmen. If that doesn't materialise then it's all academic. Australia, welcome to life after Mike Hussey. Ponting's decline was offset by Clarke's rise but the retirement of Hussey could be the killer blow for Australia.

Posted by MinusZero on (March 5, 2013, 23:11 GMT)

Watson to 5 and Usman to 3, Hughes dropped. Watson needs runs too.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 22:47 GMT)

It just proves that Amla is, and always has been the better batsman.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 22:17 GMT)

Didnt expect Aus to fall so meekly. I am hoping Usman K gets a run - and an extended run too. Johnson, Pattinson and Siddle clearly merit selection, with the remaining bowling spot open.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (March 5, 2013, 22:14 GMT)

Clarke just doesn't know what he's doing out there in the field. His decision making off the field is fascinatingly terrible also. He's played in India before: Why then doesn't he recognize a spinning surface when he sees one? Ultimately, he's thoroughly stubborn to the point of inflicting damage both on the present team, and future players. He's doing this by ignoring potential players in Australia, instead sticking with the same mediocre tired names. Lyon really should've been given the boot months ago, Clarke should have stopped hiding down the order years ago- just two easy examples to pick. So it seems like the chickens have come home to roost for Australia, and the realization dawns that the 'Rebuilding Phase' or 'Transition Phase' (whatever you want to call it), hasn't even started yet.

Posted by arcticbeatle on (March 5, 2013, 22:07 GMT)

Why isn't Mitchell Johnson playing? An attack with Starc, Johnson, Pattinson & Lyon is clearly the best attack we have. I don't care if Peter Siddle is a "good bloke" or Michael Clarke has something aganst Nathan Lyon. It's time for Australia to start playing their best 11. Enough is enough!

Posted by Beertjie on (March 5, 2013, 21:43 GMT)

Good post @Sachit1979 on (March 5, 2013, 8:23 GMT). We can disagree about certain individuals you mention, but otherwise you're spot on. @FrankG on (March 5, 2013, 8:36 GMT) - that comes when you pick players on 20/20 form to play test cricket in alien conditions. Maybe Maxwell will learn to bat in tests after his IPL stint! What do one day players or guys unaccustomed to playing in spin-friendly conditions know about shot selection, @bluebillion on (March 5, 2013, 9:48 GMT)? Whether or not altering the positions is going to make sufficient difference, @Jayzuz on (March 5, 2013, 12:39 GMT) we'll have to wait and see. Hughes is a favourite of MC so he will not be dropped - symptomatic of poor management was the squad selection and that for the 2nd test (sigh!).

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 21:21 GMT)

nice decision..get usman in the team open with watson n bring cowan at 3rd...drop hughes maxwell sidle and doherty the pitch at mohali will help quicks...so johnson starc n lyon with khwaja in...........

Posted by righthandbat on (March 5, 2013, 20:48 GMT)

Clarke must bat at 3. Not sure Australia can afford to play Henriques given the frailty of the batting order. They need to get some players over to India.

I personally would prefer to see Johnson, Siddle, Lyon, O'Keefe as the bowlers for the next test. I'd also make changes to the batting. My team:

Warner, Watson, Clarke, Bailey, Khawaja, Doolan, Wade, Johnson, O'Keefe, Siddle, Lyon.

Posted by usernames on (March 5, 2013, 20:44 GMT)

I think a good Australian team would be something like Rogers, Warner, Cowan, Clarke, Khawaja, Henriques, Wade, Johnson, Pattinson, Lyon, O'Keefe.

I like Cowan. He will grow into a good player, and a very reliable opener, and I think Aussies need to stick with him for a little bit of time. Rogers, while he doesn't have age on his side, can be an opener for a little while, at least till the Ashes. He played only one match, but has an outstanding FC record. Hughes doesn't seem to have the technique to play spin, and he's not a #3. Khawaja might be a better option, but I haven't seen too much of him, so I can't say either way. Clarke goes to #4, that's self-explanatory. Then, Khawaja comes in. You need stability around that period, which I think he can provide.

Henriques seems more compact than Wade, and, for me, he comes before Wade. Then Wade, Johnson, Patto, Lyon and O'Keefe. Now, you don't play just one spinner in India. And Johnson and Patto are your two fast bowlers for India.

Posted by Beertjie on (March 5, 2013, 20:20 GMT)

"We have enough talent, but we have to get better, every single one of us... I don't want it to be about the individuals, I want it to be about the whole team improving." Yes, sure... But many of the individuals have not under-performed- they are simply the wrong individuals to be part of this team! Glad to hear Manjrekar on air contradicting your initial statement. As for gaining "experience" how much of this does Watson need? A team and management in denial will continue to fail. Let's have a post-Argus review asap. As for now, just stop playing favourites and relying upon how well players have performed in the past. Agree @t20-2007 on (March 5, 2013, 7:58 GMT) "the first task is to change the team first and include those who can improve". Spot on about the batsmen-bowlers @Tumbarumbar on (March 5, 2013, 8:18 GMT). Loved you remark/idea about Smith/Maxwell @satishchandar on (March 5, 2013), but that lot needs Starc, too, to get enough wickets. It's shuffling the deckchairs stuff!

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 20:08 GMT)

By far clark is in supreme form, he should bat at no.3, he have to take responsibility like ricky ponting did in past, and also he have to take some bold decisions. He is right this austrailan team has the potential to any team in the world they have to believe in them self, players like watto, warner, cowan, phill, should take the responsibility, pick the mitch he is a experience candidate and also can bat lower down the order, my team would be

warner, watson, clark, cowan, khawaja, wade, henriques, mitch, patto, lyon,starc.

perhaps australia should bring shaun marsh in their squad

Posted by handyandy on (March 5, 2013, 19:52 GMT)

Probably Khwaja, Johnson and perhaps Smith will get a chance in the next match. I would have O'Keefe on the next plane out of Australia as well.

I am not sure it will make much difference.

There is a real lack of quality in this Australian team. You really have only one quality batsman and no spin bowlers of note. Our pace attack is OK ... but pretty much nullified in Indian conditions.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 19:50 GMT)

OZ'S have messed it up with the squad selection..send watson,smith,hughes "MAXWELL" (especially) back to australia...watson is not contributing even 1/4 th of what is expected from him..hughes and maxwell doesn'thave the technique .PUP you have v9 dayss isn't it ..then fly in rogers ,david hussey,marsh or bailey or voges immediatly...why not if needed call PUNTER & HUSS back & JOHNSON IS MUST ...HIS PACE AND REVERSE SWING will destry indian batting...

my xi with the current squad

1.warner 2.cowan 3.usie 4.CLARKE 5.________6.henriques7.wade 8.johnson 9.siddle 10. pattinson 11.xavier

Posted by Trego on (March 5, 2013, 19:21 GMT)

I say this is the best team Warner, Cowan, Watson, Hughes, Clarke, Wade, Henriques, Starc, Siddle, Johnson, Lyon

Posted by seantells on (March 5, 2013, 18:39 GMT)

@cricketman: i gree with you.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 18:39 GMT)

I don't think that Indians are tailoring pitches for Aussies. These are just pitches that are subcontinental. If these pitches are called "tailored" then the Aussie and South African pitches are "tailored" for fast and "hit the deck hard" bowling.

True enough, varying pitches do give lots of variety and diversity to the game. However, neither the subcontinental nor the aussie/saffers should be allowed to overtly make use of the conditions to negate the opposition's strength. Time for ICC/MCC to step in and do either of the following:

(1) Set up standards for doctoring pitches (2) Set up minimum standards for the quality practice matches before tests/ODIs (SL got only a very flat pitch to warm up on 1 1/2 month long Aussie tour)

This would not only improve comparability of results but also would make series more competitive & more worth watching.

As per the current setup - I do not see India "tailoring" pitches - it is merely playing to its own strengths - just like what Aus/Saf do

Posted by sbganesh on (March 5, 2013, 17:58 GMT)

I hate guys like Int.Curator who are criticizing the Indian pitches. Why there is no rank turner or dust bowl in SA, AUS, NZ and ENG. If they have prepared pitches like that these players would be playing well here rt?. Why no?? becoz the region is like that and that's what makes the cricket interesting.. if you don't have any knowledge about the pitch.. just shut up. Answer to your question of Indian players to perform outside subcontinent ,you need to send your under 19,25 and India A teams frequent tour to these countries and allow bench players and other interested players to go n play in county cricket in above countries (Aus,Eng,NZ and SA) that way when the player comes to senior team he would have tons of experience in all conditions. Zaheer was one gud example of county cricket helping an sub-continent player.

Posted by CricketMaan on (March 5, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

How about opening with Wade as he plays quicks better and letting Ed cowan handle spin down the order. So why not Wade, Warner, Watto, Clarke, Cowan, Khwaja, Moises, Mitch, Patto, Lyon, Xavier for Mohali

Posted by CricketMaan on (March 5, 2013, 17:45 GMT)

Maxwell out Lyon in, Siddle out Mitch in, Hughes out Khwaja in could be some changes! and India have not handled Mitch well in the past and he could trouble the likes of Vijay, Viru a lot early on! I wont be surprised to see Watto bowl an over or two in Mohali.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 17:42 GMT)

Selection of Shane Watson, who is merely a T20 and / or IPL specialist in the Test team is the most glaring blunder by the Australian selectors. He is clearly and evidently unfit to play Test matches. Even if he continues the backing of the current team management and scores a fifty or so in the next 2 remaining Tests in this series, he should be dropped for the next series. Further, Jhonson, who can potentially and provenly troubled the Indians with his angles in the past, watching his Team's debacle, sitting beyond the boundary line, is also baffling.

To sum up, the failure of Australia is basically because of their unexplainable team selection.

Posted by AKS286 on (March 5, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

@Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (March 5, 2013, 10:30 GMT) I'm totally disagree with your comment "Siddle as a captain." because in my views a young, world class player should replace Clarke; Lyon is the best man, and he is also the future coach of Aus after his retirement.

Posted by Mitch1066 on (March 5, 2013, 17:18 GMT)

I think it time for bold decisions and if conditions dictate spinners why not follow Indian and play Lyon doherty and maxwell . Maybe between three of them could do swann and panesar between them ditch extra batsmen and have Johnson pattingson and henriquez doing seam so 4 bowlers 2 all rounders and five batsmen

Posted by SettingSun on (March 5, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

I think I've figured it out. Australia have become England from the 1990s! Let's look at the evidence - they can't play spin bowling at all, even relatively mediocre spin bowlers that are not in the class of Ajmal or Swann, and they have no spinners of any quality of their own to at least give them some low totals to bowl at.

All they need to do now is lose the next match and then win the last meaningless test to give them some false hope that things might be better in the future (they won't) and the transformation will be complete!

Still, on the positive side, Aussie fans, it's at least made India think they're good again and it will be fun watching their desperate disappointment the next time they fail miserably in a major tournament.

Posted by cricketfanwrites on (March 5, 2013, 16:58 GMT)

Am not sure if Clarke is only a selector for the final eleven from the squad or get to select the squad for tours. I hope its only for the final eleven that plays. The world knows that this is not CA's best touring squad. At least D. Hussey & Haddin should have been in this squad. In a previous post I said Aus will have to go down 0-2 before Khawaja gets a chance. I hope he gets it here. I also said Maxwell will get clobbered if he plays. He was, even though he got 4. Aus needs specialist spin bowlers in India not batting all rounders. Is Warner 100% fit? Dont think so. Please do not let Henriques and Maxwell take up a valuable spot(s) that will take away CA's best chance to win/compete in the next test. Hughs is not an option at this point in India. Also Lyon and Smith are way better bowlers than Maxwell. Aus best eleven should be; Warner(if healthy), Watson, Cowan, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Smith, Johnson, Starc, Doherty & Lyon.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 16:51 GMT)

@Front Foot Lunge: Siddle as Captain? What a beauty !!

Posted by Travian.Cricket on (March 5, 2013, 16:47 GMT)

Clarke isn't really hiding from the new ball is he ? He comes in at 20/3 odd . And how can you say that he is "scared" to face the new ball and will fail when there is no obvious flaw in his technique ?

Posted by 64blip on (March 5, 2013, 16:09 GMT)

The phrase 'Rearranging the deckchairs on the Titanic' comes to mind. The Aussie selectors blinked. They announced their plan of making the best of what they had and then chucked it out of the window with no plan B at the first setback. They should stick with what they believe is their best XI and let them gain experience and confidence by backing them even when they are losing. Clarke seems like a #5 to me. I know TTS baits the Aussies saying he's hiding, but like Bell it's his best position IMO. I'd be happy to see him coming in first or second drop against Anderson with a swinging new ball in his hand: Clarke lbw b Anderson: you saw it here first (time of many).

Posted by Chicagoan76 on (March 5, 2013, 16:06 GMT)

I doubt they give Khawaja a fair reasonably extended run at it, and no way they will replace Clarke's chum Hughes with Khawaja. Its about politics and judging people based on something other than their talent. Like I said before, time is a great leveler, and in the end if you are prejudiced, you get whats coming to you.

Posted by MiddleStump on (March 5, 2013, 15:52 GMT)

Hughes and Siddle are gone for Mohali. Khawaja and Johnson need to come in. Watson should probably open. Lyon could be back for Doherty. At least play a stronger side on paper and hope for better results.

Posted by 2nd_Slip on (March 5, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

I have a feeling this is not a good idea and Clarke's batting will be hampered by this shuffling. Its high time the likes of Shane Watson,Cowan, Warner to take responsebility or all that trust the selectors have given to them over the past 2years. And I see alot of com. here giving stick to the young lad Hughes, which IMO is unjustified.The kid has only just returned to the set up and with his age is a along term option in that fragile looking Aus batting line up. If anyone really should be underfire it should clearly be Ed Cowan. He is just not good enough for test cricket. Get Waston to open and tell him to feel free and play with the same carefree attitude he dislpays in T20 cricket because (just like B McCullum,E Morgen, Raina and Hafeez) thats the only way the ever look like they are going to sore big,when they play hit and giggle cricket.Kawaja for Cowan is the answer.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 15:51 GMT)

i for one feel watson and warner should open the batting, maybe huges comes at 3 and clarke at 4 .How about bringind david hussey to the test side, he seems to be a quality player like his brother

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 15:20 GMT)

Now suddenly every one has become expert advisers for the Australian team, a few months back these same people were just slamming the Indian batsmen ! What a turn around. So the next time the Indian lose they will put on the other shoe! The Australians are professional and know what to do and have people like Allan Border at hand if they need any ideas. It is a simple thing that you follow your batting style to suit the Pitch conditions and you can come out on top, just need little patience to understand the wicket.

Posted by Tumbarumbar on (March 5, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

I can understand Clarke's reluctance to move, it was a problem Sobers and Border both had. They were both criticized for batting too low at times with underperforming top orders but both men were more concerned about arresting the seemingly inevitable disaster by coming in further down the order rather than risking losing their wicket early on by taking a more aggressive upper order position. Off that topic for a moment, I'm a bit confounded by the calls for Cowan's axing after he top scored in Australia's second innings and batted for far longer than the rest of his team mates combined. I'd rather have a batsman whose scores are improving as the series goes along than one whose scores are getting worse.

Posted by TommytuckerSaffa on (March 5, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

Clarke should've been batting at 3or4 years ago. The shameless hiding from the new ball and fresh bowlers to protect his average has come to an end.

Posted by Asadpk on (March 5, 2013, 15:00 GMT)

Problems galore for Aus batting and Clarke and management have to take the blame. Watson won't bat at No.4 even for Bangladesh & Zimbabwe; he should either open or bat down at No.6 if he has to be in the team. Hughes has to go as he has no clue against spin. Australian pundits incl. Ian Chappell had been begging Clarke to bat higher but he didn't listen, now he has had to learn the hard way. Possible line up for 3rd Test: Warner, Watson, Cowan, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Siddle, Pattinson, Doherty, Lyon

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

shane watson should drop and need a another Extra spinner to bounce back to another 2 test matches , M.Clarke Should bat NO: 3

Posted by Dave_75 on (March 5, 2013, 14:41 GMT)

Clarke moving up suggests Hughes is gone. Watson needs to open. Right now he has every excuse to not score runs. He openly campaigned to open, and was denied. Moving him up also breaks up the leftys. Give him what he wants and the onus is on him to score... Watson/Warner to open, Cowan @ 3, Clarke @ 4. Shuffling the order aside, the lineup still looks 1 quality middle order batsman short.

Posted by Cricket_Man on (March 5, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

Clarke should have made the call of coming up in the order before the tour started or atleast after the first test. He is the most experienced batsman in the team and should lead from the front. It's really sad to see Shane Watson not performing too. So far so bad for Australia. Hopefully they will show some fight in the remaining tests.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:19 GMT)

in my opinion hughes is not good in this series so for me i want replace him with smith and the aussies team for next match must be watto warner cowan clarke wade maxwell smith pattinson siddle and starc 3 pacers because there will be more for them in mohali and then they have offie and a leggie to play so i hope aussies drop hughes in next test as he scored 6 0 19 0 a total of only 25 in 2 tests

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:16 GMT)

I think they can see how the Indians do in their batting line up. Their best batsman is always at no. 4. Right now it's Sachin. Even Sunny admits that even though he opened, his best innings was at no. 4. He always regarded G. Vishvanath as the best batsman in the team, and Vishwanath batted at 4. So, in Indian conditions, do as the Indians do- best batsman at no. 4. Tried and tested over the years.

Posted by AKS286 on (March 5, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

That is the difference between world's top batsman like Amla, Cook, Kallis, AB, KP, Mahela, Sangakara, Smith, younis, SRT-- All bats in top order except of Clake & Chanderpaul(exception because whole team is a tailender). Clarke is batting with tailenders Wade, Moises & rest are tailenders. if he bats above in the order there is a chance of 150 & 200 by him. remember Eng batting except of Cook & KP all are flop while batting a little bit contribution from Prior & swanny. i listened a post match session that it is a trend that best batsman always bats at no.3 position.

Posted by reefwizard on (March 5, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

with a front line spinner at each end .. . rather than one frontline .. and a either a part timer or a tired exhausted quick at the other end. . . would all help to build up a bit of preasure. . anyways . . i realy hope aus can get a bit of confidence & come back in the series to make it interesting. llllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllater

Posted by Mitch1066 on (March 5, 2013, 13:54 GMT)

Well Clarke showing realisation that he need to move up to help his sides batting . I think however Australia will need unearth some talented batment maxwell henriquez are young so Hughes they need time .

Posted by reefwizard on (March 5, 2013, 13:51 GMT)

continued. . .lol :-). . yeah . . so 4 is a good spot for clarke. . watson at 5 strengthens the middle order . . and will manage his bowling nicely .. . when he bowls .. . !! aus realy need shane to bowl. . i think his style will suit those pitches . . my reason behind cowan at 6 . . is . . even though i agree that he might never be a great test batsmen .. he is gritty. . and is used to facing the new ball. . so iff aus can get around to a 2nd new ball .. you have an opener there .. plus with shane before him. . . could be a good call. . besides. . he could bat well with the lower order i think .. wade is a given .. then on the bowling, johnson and pattinson are the best two quicks there . . so should play. . and even if they are not your choice of spinners , 2 realy have to play. . and with an offi and a left arm spinner . . its a nice mix . . and both can be accurate. . so could work nicely. . plus .. .

Posted by tomjas on (March 5, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

@blink182alex _ Rogers will never play for Oz again no matter how many runs he scores.

Posted by reefwizard on (March 5, 2013, 13:41 GMT)

Im a south african and have been following the series fairly closely. . the way I see it . . . the original touring squad picked might not have been the best available .. who knows. . but considering the squad available. . i would pick the following . 1- warner. 2- hughes. 3- khawaja. 4- clarke. 5-watson. 6-cowan. 7-wade. 8-johnson. 9-pattinson. 10-doherty. 11-lyon . my reasons for this side is simple. . sure Hughes looks a bit out of knick , though he is an opener .. he does have talent , so give him the best shot at making some runs , which is at the top of the order. he is clearly more comfy against pace bowling , so could help him to settle into an innings before the spinners come on. and he's a bit set.. . and even if they bring spin on early , the ball will be hard and shouldnt turn as much . warner needs to settle at the top . . so let it be. . khawaja , is talented. . and I think deserves a run. . . and 3 seems well suited to him . . clarke batting a spot up is a must

Posted by ScottStevo on (March 5, 2013, 13:30 GMT)

Terrible move. Clarke has been scoring loads of runs where he is and that shouldn't change. We should be looking for batsmen than can fill the roles around him rather than become reliant on one man scoring the runs, hence, knee-jerkingly promoting the guy in the order. As for bringing in guys regardless of age (a comment I've seen around lately), it's a little late when we ousted Punter on his age (who is scoring runs without even trying in Shield), which somewhat opened the door for M Hussey to go, only to turn around and say we shouldn't be looking at "squads for the future" anymore...bit late for that.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 13:20 GMT)

IMO the best batsman should come as early as possible. On top of it if the best batsman is the captain himself then promoting in the batting order will surely inspire. I am not understanding why some of the captains don't realize this.

In the recently concluded Ind-Pak series, Sourav Ganguly, Imran Khan, Sunil Gavaskar all admitted Dhoni should promote himself up the order as he was the best in terms of forms. Still Dhoni didn't apply that trick even in the England ODI series which costed India. However after he promoted himself to #6 in tests from the last test against England, India got benefited in batting since then .

So to sum it up, captain should come front and lead the team. I am sure Australia will definitely get some benefit if Clarke comes up the order.

Posted by TeamRocker on (March 5, 2013, 13:14 GMT)

To be perfectly honest, I've been disappointed with Henriques's bowling. Which is why I think that Watto should start bowling again! I would give Maxwell another go and get him to bowl around the wicket while Lyon bowles over. Could really cause some confusion. Aus team for next match: Cowan, Warner, Watson, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques, Maxwell, Johnson/Siddle, Pattinson, Lyon.

I prefer Siddle as a bowler and Johnson 'cos of his angle and footmarks. Selectors, take note of this.

Posted by blink182alex on (March 5, 2013, 13:13 GMT)

Clarke has to bat 3 or 4 in India, In Australia/England and South Africa i would leave him at 5 however as that's where he bats best.

Strangely this series might actually help us in the Ashes, as the selectors will finally see that some of the players are just not good enough, the likes of Maxwell and Cowan. Wade shud bat 7 in England which means Henriques should miss out. Hughes is talented but is all at sea in these conditions. Big 15 months coming up for our test side and we should select the best batsmen. regardless of age for the Ashes and the South Africa series

Warner, Watson, Rogers, Clarke, Voges, Khawaja/Hughes, Wade as the batting line up for the next 14 months for me. A couple of short term options there in Rogers and Voges but it's all about the present, and presently the batting is not good enough.

Posted by ozwriter on (March 5, 2013, 13:08 GMT)

matt wade though he had the spinners sorted, then he crashed and burned 2nd innings. cowan said averages don't tell the story, its more about some theory to do with how you scored them. averages to matter, and ed cowan has proven that he belongs in shield cricket. you can't pick an average shield player and expect them to be a great test player.

Posted by TeamRocker on (March 5, 2013, 13:05 GMT)

Hmm..I suppose this has been on the radar for ages. I was trusting the top 4 to make it unnecessary, but I was proved wrong. Desperately hope this works.

With Clarke moving up, somebody's gotta go. IMO, this is going to be Hughes (replaced with the much deserving Khawaja). I would keep Warner because he has shown that he can bat well under pressure, Cowan cause I liked the way he was adjusting his technique in this innnings and Watson cause he seems in control of his batting and has to avoid throwing his innings away. Though I vote he starts bowling again. Khawaja should bat at 5.

Posted by ozwriter on (March 5, 2013, 12:43 GMT)

what has PH Hughes done to a. get into the team, and then b. stay in the team. he has been woeful, disgraceful, nothing short of embarrassing. he must be dropped.

Posted by Jayzuz on (March 5, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

Obviously Hughes has to be dropped, & there's no point discussing why, as we can see. The real madness here is having 4 openers who are familiar with pace bowling in the 1 team - 2 have to bat out of position. Hughes would probably have scored at least a few runs if he'd opened. I'd love to see Warner & Watson opening, because they could really put pressure on the opposition, & 2ndly because Watson is still a world class opener. So play him there! Then put Clarke at 3. That's a reasonably solid top 3, even in Indian conditions. That means you probably have to drop Cowan, as he is not performing as an opener, & is stopping Watson from performing because he has to play out of position! So everyone loses! Khuwaja comes next. Hate to say it, but give Steve Smith a shot, as he is quick on his feet, & MAY do well against spin. Then Wade and Henriques, who have both shown that they can play spin pretty well.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 12:33 GMT)

Its obvious the top 4 batsmen just cannot cope with India's spin attack. And in my opinion all should be replaced, cause they bat with fear, no confidence, have too much respect for the Indian bowlers and score too slow. Even though they reshuffle the batting line-up the process will still continue; might make a little difference with Clarke in at 4 which should have been from first test. Now the burden is on Australia right now, they must score fast, and must score over 400 runs if they are to stand a chance to win a match. I don't see any of this happening.

Since Australia made themselves so vulnrable to spin I would like to see them play Bangladesh right now.

Posted by whoster on (March 5, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

I'd be feeling pretty fed-up if I was Michael Clarke. His performances since becoming captain have been incredible - but with no Hussey anymore, he's pretty much on his own. None of the other specialist batsmen (which doesn't include Wade and Henriques) have shown the discipline and patience required to make big contributions. Guys like Hughes and Warner just don't have the technique to play spin - or the seaming ball, which they'll get in England. I think the only option Aus have is for Clarke to move to either 3 or 4, replace Hughes with Khawaja, and see how that goes. It may help improve things a little, but with the quality of players Aus have at the moment, not much they can do. As for the spin options - I reckon the Aussie selectors just pick the names out of a hat and hope for the best. 4-0 looks the likeliest result whoever the Aussies pick.

Posted by dpt_061206 on (March 5, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

Good decision by Clarke to move up the order. The team for 3rd test should be : 1) Warner, 2) Watson, 3) Wade, 4) Clarke, 5) Khawaja, 6) Henriques, 7) Maxwell, 8) Smith, 9) Johnson, 10) Pattinson, 11) Lyon.

Clarke should bowl himself, if required.

Posted by Samar_Singh on (March 5, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

At last a positive move. He definitely need to bat up the order.. Possibly #4

Posted by Vindaliew on (March 5, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

Ponting started lower down the order and then spent his most destructive years at first-drop, leading by example as captain. I think there's no better time for Clarke to do that now. At least Gooch in the 1993 Ashes opened the batting - it wasn't enough to win the Ashes, but it was enough for him to outbat every member of the Australian team and show his team that batting against Warne, McDermott and Hughes was possible.

Posted by Paul_Rampley on (March 5, 2013, 12:07 GMT)

I would move Clarke up to 4, bat Khawaja at 3 and move Hughes to opener given Watson is going home for the birth of his child. Clarke at 4 will be good for us.

Posted by Mary_786 on (March 5, 2013, 11:50 GMT)

@SRK666 i am finding it hard to decide who to pick between Hughes and Cowan as well. I have a feeling it might be Cowan given Hughes domestic record and the fact that Clarke rates Hughes highly

Posted by Gordo85 on (March 5, 2013, 11:43 GMT)

Seriously you can't drop or get Maxwell out of the eleven since he out bowled Doherty. What kind of a sick message would that send?

Posted by drnaveed on (March 5, 2013, 11:38 GMT)

actually ,the problem came when both ponting and hussey decided to retire one after the other.the board , than should have requested either ponting or hussey to have stayed at-least till the next ashes series,but perhaps they did'nt got involved in the 2 player's decision to retire.furthermore, watson's unavailability as a bowler has also effected somewhat the balance of this Aus side. in the past , atleast 2 among the top 6 Aus batsmen ,used to score big hundreds , but here , no one is scoring even 30 to 40 runs with consistency. definitely , as no one among the top 4 Aus batsmen is scoring runs at all, clarke is left with no other choice , but to come at number 3 or 4 position. it is a gamble, might pay off, for the Aus , who knows ??? .

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

Having your team's best batsman come in at 5 or 6 is ridiculous to say the least. The batsman with the best technique and temperament should front up at the top of the order, blunt the new ball and lay a platform for the batsmen to follow. For years Jacque Kallis has selflessly done it for us, and now our best batsman, Amla, is doing it. This gives confidence to the youngsters and to the team in general.

Posted by Harmony111 on (March 5, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

Sorry for raking up an old topic here but I guess now ppl can see how hard it is for a player to make his team win a match if the other players do not perform even if this player is in the form of his life and has a claim to be the best batsman in the world. Clarke got a 100 in the 1st test ad a 91 here yet Aus lost both of them (by a big margin too). Ofc it would be a very foolish, uninformed, jealous, corrupt man who would say that Clarke is a selfish player who plays for himself only and just wants to score runs. A true fan would realize that Clarke is doing all he can to help his team but if the others can't match his efforts then the team's performance will not be up to the mark.

I talk of this whole thing cos for years and years some jealous, idiotic, illogical ppl have said the same thing for Sachin. They claim that Sachin plays for himself only and just wants to score 100s and plays selfishly with no regard to his team winning a match.

How foolish & irritating.

Posted by Mervo on (March 5, 2013, 11:13 GMT)

Surely at some stage Johnson will play? And Lyon IS their best spinner. This selection panel is becoming like the last - they grasp at straws and hope for miracles. This HAS to be the end of Hughes 'career' at Test level. Finally can we have a balanced cricket wicket with some actual grass and not only mud in there? One where spinners don't open the bowling. You know, a really traditional Indian wicket, and not a desperate face saving one.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

@AKS286 Steyn is from South Africa, not Australia.

Posted by Jaffa79 on (March 5, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

Finally Clarke grows a pair! Mind you, can they Hughes? I know they did against SA but he must deliver when he matters at some point. Hughes is a good batsman except for his inability to play spin, pace, bouncers or the ball moving away from him. Apart from this, he is good.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

My Aussie XI for the Mohali Test - in seamer friendly conditions wud be ... 1. Warner 2. Watson 3. Cowan 4. Clarke 5. Khwaja 6. Wade 7. Henriques 8. Johnson 9. Starc 10. Pattinson 11. Doherty

Posted by gsingh7 on (March 5, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

clarke used to hide at 5 because he isn't a great batsmen of swinging ball and against left arm spinners all the doubles he scored against south Africa,he comes on flat track after the ball stopped swinging which already takes 3 or 4 wickets,by the time second new ball is taken he gets settled as a batsmen. lets see if he can do anything up the order. although cook have limited strokeplay but he never hides.

Posted by Sunil_Batra on (March 5, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

@Chirsiaan Marium Levitt i agree with your comments. Yes we need some serious changes for the next 2 tests. i would go, 1.Hughes 2 warner 3. watson 4. khawaja 5.clarke 6.henriques 7. wade 8. johnson 9. pattinson 10. lyon 11. doherty, I think cowan will be batting to keep his spot, henriques must bat at 6, before wade, and If khawaja doesnt play we deserve to lose as he is vital for the top order. And Clarke is among the best batsman in the world and a very good captain but CA must intervene immediately and stand him down from selection duties. No captain should have a seat at the selection table; it just doesn't work as leads to favorites being picked and we have seen the results of that.

Posted by KP_13 on (March 5, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

I think Hughes should get the axe and kwaja should come in. The team needs a change. also they need one more spinner, so they have to drop henriques and get Lyon.

Posted by pvwadekar on (March 5, 2013, 10:55 GMT)

Outside Australia, the Aussies look like England from 1990's. A team with 1 or 2 quality players, few honest triers and bits and pieces "all round players"players.Although they have a good crop of young fast bowlers(Pattenson, Stark and Cummins), they will still need some time to mature, so they should be persisted with. Similarly, Lyon is definitely much, much better than Maxwell or Doherty, but will need some time and support to mature and every spinner has suffered in India. The main problem lies in the batting line up. Ed Cowan and PJ Huges are simply not talented enough to succeed in all conditions. Watson is talented but does not have the temperament for test cricket. Warner will eventually succeed, while Khawaja is unknown. However Aussies have one eye on the back to back ashes, so they are betting on a pool of players who might give them a good chance to get the urn back (just like the English thinking in the 1990's).

Posted by palla.avinash on (March 5, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

Australia best team Watson,warner,cowan,clarke,steven smith,wade,mitchel johson,lyon,pattinson,siddle,dohetry.best 11 and for india dhwan,vijay,pujara,sachin,kohli,dhoni,jedeja,ashwin,ojha,buvaneshwar kumar,ishant. for india

Posted by venkatesh018 on (March 5, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

My Australian XI for Mohali unless anyone breaks down before the Test: Warner, Cowan, Watson, Clarke, Khwaja, Wade, Henriques, Johnson, Pattinson, Siddle, Lyon.

Posted by z0mbiezom on (March 5, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

Might be worth giving Steve Smith a go at no.5, his technique against spin would be better than Khawaja's

That said, Australia should have had a middle order or 3. hodge 4. david hussey 5. clarke

Pity they chose to overlook hussey and hodge because of age

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (March 5, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

I disagree. Clarke has done a lot better at numbers 5 and 6 than further up the order. Why mess with success? If he bats at number 3, he could fail. The same rule for Clarke (=not in the top 4) is the same rule for Watson (=must be in the top 4). Mess with that and you mess with success. Really bad idea. I'd rather see Clarke at 6.

Posted by venkatesh018 on (March 5, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

An interview straight from the heart from Clarke. But the seeds of this demolition were sown even before the toss at Hyderbad when this utterly defensive XI was picked. This debacle is a direct result of that flawed selection and the captain can't escape blame.

Posted by Int.Curator on (March 5, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

@ dada_ricky_fan I think we agree. India are likely to struggle abroad due to lack of pace bowlers accustomed to traditional pitches.The more they play abroad the more they will develop and improve. The Indian batsmen work very hard to adapt abroad. Once they are set though they are great to watch. Although Sachin and Sewhag might be past it now.

Posted by AKS286 on (March 5, 2013, 10:33 GMT)

Klinger/Cowan, Watson, Marsh, Clarke, Voges, Haddin/Paine, Moises, Kreja, MJ, Pattinson, Boyce. Warner is not ideal for test. Khawaja, Agar, SO'K will join the flop bucket list. Maxwell,smith are not a batsman nor a bowler IMO D.Hussey is better than Maxwell.S.Marsh is the second best batsman of Aus and he is the ideal player in these conditions. clarke's captaincy is under question because he axe all the senior players (some were retired some of them not selected). if pace bowlers don't able to deliver reverse swing in sub- continent then aggressive pace bowlers are required like Coulter Nile, Pattinson, Steyn.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (March 5, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

This is one giant humiliation for Clarke: For months, years now, many have been telling him to stop hiding down the order and to personally take responsibility for the mess that squirm above him. He looks too protective over his personal average and terrified of having his technique tested against any attack that isn't tired and a ball less than 30 overs old. Seems like he's finally admitted he's been wrong all along. What a weak and indecisive captain. Australia need to replace him now and pick Siddle as captain instead..

Posted by Damo_s on (March 5, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

Australia need to do what England did after their drubbing in the UAE i.e. go back to basics and learn to bat against spin. No amount of chopping or changing the top order is going to make any difference. Is the next guy they bring in going to be a world class player of spin? I doutb it. I would say its best to show faith in this lot (as England did with their batsman) and they will just have to learn the hard way. What do you think randyOz? lol

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

I think cowan should get the axe, the oldest batsmen and always looks like he could but wont. 1. Warner 2. Watson 3. Hughes 4. Clarke 5. Khawaja 6. Wade 7. Henriques 8. Siddle 9. Pattinson 10. Lyon 11. Doherty

Posted by smudgeon on (March 5, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

Time to accept Hughes and Watson are dreadfully out of form (Cowan and Warner haven't been great, but IMO they have shown enough to keep going). Only problem is - who are the options? Steven Smith and Khawaja. Can't be any worse, huh? And I mean no disrespect to those two - Usman in particular, I've always been a fan of - but two untested batsman against India in home conditions? Yeesh! Tough assignment. Sort of telling that the one batsman in the Aussie side who has done well this series also happened to hit 151 in his debut knock against a much better Indian attack. Just sayin'.

Posted by Busie1979 on (March 5, 2013, 10:05 GMT)

10 out of 16 innings by Cowan, Warner, Hughes and Watson have been starts. This is not simply a question of technique against spin. It is a question of concentration and resolve. Apart from Hughes, they all seem to have no trouble getting their eye in in this series. If they can't convert starts this is a worry for the Ashes - although they need to win the next games to take anything home. No disrespect to India but their spinners are good but not world beaters. I don't agree with the Lyon bashers - yet. People forget that he has been thrust into the test team with virtually no first class cricket behind him. He was picked too early and has been learning on the job. He's had a few tests under his belt, but it is a pretty tough gig to lead the test attack if you ask me. I still think he needs a year or two to develop.

Posted by Hardy1 on (March 5, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

Kinda seems necessary but I'd be hesitant to move Clarke from 5 even though everyone's been screaming for it just because quite simply, if it ain't broke don't fix it. The guy's made an incredible number of runs from that position so why would you want to move him & risk losing that form?

Posted by Webba84 on (March 5, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

@MAROON5 I hope it annoys you if I make no excuses for Aus whatsoever. The batting, especially, was poor and India played well and thoroughly deserve their win.

Posted by bluebillion on (March 5, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

With the team that the AUssies have at their disposal, I think they should move Watson back to open with Warner and have Cowan at 3, Clarke at 4 and Hughes / Khawaja at 5. Lyon must play and I also think the Aussies should stick to their strength and play 3 quicks. Let us not forget that if you take out Dhoni's exceptional knock away in the first test, the result might have been very different.

I do disagree with one point that Clarke made about the shot selection being terrible - the sweep seems to be the only scoring stroke that the Aussie batsman seem to have against spin and the only way is to be much more selective in when to play the sweep.

Posted by palla.avinash on (March 5, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

Clarke isn't a great batsmen of swinging ball and against left arm spinners all the doubles he scored against south Africa,he comes on flat track after the ball stopped swinging which already takes 3 or 4 wickets,by the time second new ball is taken he gets settled as a batsmen.Now he wants to come up the order with lack of swing in above conditions and avoid ravindhra jedeja.Even the century he scored in Chennai lucky on 39 when he was given out and was lucky with chances so he should play where he plays and ask others to improve there games.Th e thing if ojha plays instead of bhajji he will go cheaply when ojha bowls with new ball.He himself need to learn a lot including other batsmen.They should have selected hodge,bailey or d hussey who plays spin better.He should bat no 5 and others need to improve the games for future of Australia.Drop half henriques and bring Mitchel Johnson, lyon for max well and steven smith for for hughes khawaja cant sustain here.

Posted by Wefinishthis on (March 5, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

He can bat whatever position he likes but it won't make a difference. It won't change the fact that we are having to chase 500+ runs every innings because the bowlers are rubbish and then we are expecting the three stooges (Cowan/Hughes/Watson) at the top of the order to actually score more than 100 runs between them against the laughable I.Sharma! Drastic changes (or rain) would be required to prevent a 4-0 clean sweep. We need Burns, Rogers, D.Hussey, O'Keefe and Harris to immediately join the squad and give Khawaja a game (he couldn't do any worse than the current lot). The only four available, uninjured bowlers that could actually get this Indian side out for less than 500 would be O'Keefe, Pattinson, Harris, Lyon but the selectors value ODI's over shield experience so that won't ever happen. Finally, what's the point of player management when Bird has been injured when NOT playing? Just play your best available 11 and if one gets injured (or underperforms), pick the next best.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

Our batting stocks are slim, so we can't make wholesale changes. Hughes needs to be replaced by Khawaja, without question. I'd love to see Watson opening again and Cowan tried at #3. Something like: Warner, Watson, Cowan, Clarke, Khawaja, Wade, Henriques. That's a decent top 7.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 9:46 GMT)

Warner,Watson,Cowan,Clarke,Khawaja,Wade,Henriques, Smith,Johnson, Pattinson, Lyon

Clarke should bowl more. Leg spinner Smith can be dangerous for India.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 9:35 GMT)

Your best batter may even come as an opener, even then the team will fall if others don't score. Are we killing Clarkey here. Is he the one to take the weight of scoring single handed. Guys, this is a new team with the majority not knowing a thing about patiently playing spin in a test match in India. There lies a big hole in the preparation and the understanding of the conditions. No one can deny these basic issues. Aussies have been used to talk from the helm and this fall isn't something they are used to, but one has to understand that this can happen when your team is relatively a new one. As a lover of the game, I wouldn't blame anyone, but expect them to learn for the future. One good score from here can make Hughes look huge. All the more, there is a point here about pitches all over the world. Why one has to be a tennis champ to face deliveries in South Africa and Australia and in a contrasting manner, be a smart hockey player in countries like India and Sri Lanka?

Posted by pat_one_back on (March 5, 2013, 9:35 GMT)

When Hughes walked out to bat in the second dig I was a little surprised that Clarkie didn't promote himself. 5 is the new 6 in this bewildering experimental Aussie 11 gone wrong, he has to come up (and bat through to be honest).

Posted by ravineel on (March 5, 2013, 9:34 GMT)

lets realise from what we have seen of this current australian side. They seem to be talking only about Ashes and not at all prepared for this tour. they have been the weakest and meek side that has ever toured India .No aggression , no planning , no talent and no fighting spirit.Watson looks out of form and out of sorts as if he is not happy with his demotion in the batting order. warner is a once in a blue moon entertainer and cannot play spin. Hughes from what we saw cannot play any sort of spin.Cowan also lacks quality. the bowling is pedestrian. An aussie test side coming to india without a good spinner ...cannot believe it. It appears the aussies have considered this tour as a foregone conclusion and are going thro' the motion to appease tthe ICC .Here was a great opprtunity for the young team to apply and learn to play spin on spin friendly surface against reasonable quality Indian bowling.No one is prepared to spend time at the crease and are out playing the same rash shots

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 9:31 GMT)

Not much can be achieved just by Pup moving up. The issue with the team is someone batting with Pup as Wade did. If that does not happen, Clarke can bat anywhere and the result will not change much. Given Mohali comes next, the Ozs get the best conditions possible for them here in India. Unless they can atleast make a battle and draw the game, they should be prepared not only a 4-0 return compliment but a midsummer nightmare in England..

Posted by joseyesu on (March 5, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

Cowan, Warner, Watson, Clarke, Wade, Henriques, Maxwell, Pattinson, Starc, Doherty, Lyon looks a better side and in a better batting position.

Posted by yeah_right on (March 5, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

@Int.Curator - You are confused mate. Our top bowler at the moment is (they say) Ishant Sharma who is averaging 39(with the ball if you are mistaken). And that is the quality of fast bowlers we have at the moment and that would be the only reason we might lose again overseas. Since 2003 as you had mentioned we were No:1 for 21 months with one decent fast bowler Mr.Zaheer Khan. Things turned ugly once he got injured in Eng series 2011. At the moment we dont want to lose at home also by preparing your "so-called traditional" pitches for the only reason that we dont have a fast bowler....We are very sure that our batters(pujaras and kohlis) would adapt to any condition provided they have enough tour games. However we might lose matches abroad becuz of lack of fast bowlers...Its as simple as that....

Posted by pj3000 on (March 5, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

I know he's had a dreadful domestic season, but I get the feeling David Hussey would have been a handy choice right about now. Watson at 3, Hussey at 4 and Clarke at 5...it has a solid look about it.

Posted by Pablo23 on (March 5, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

Once again, hughes HAS to go.. He doesnt even look likely in these conditions. Doherty's best use is for short form cricket to contain the run rate but we need two spinners. I'd take drastic measures and fly some1 over and still leave Lyon out. Lyon has had soo much opportunity to show he is a legitimate front line spinner but he just cant take enough wickets. Go with Maxwell and O'keefe for spin and maybe a 3rd spinner. Enough with the stubborn approach that we have talented fast bowlers. It just wont work on these pitches. 2 fast bowlers max. Need to avoid a clean sweep.. cmonn

Posted by RahulHariharan on (March 5, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

Much needed decision... Team for next test in the order-- Warner,Watson,Cowan,Clarke,Khawaja,Wade,Henriques/Smith,Johnson,Pattinson,Siddle,Lyon... Hard work needed ahead of next test and talks to be done with experienced players

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 9:14 GMT)

Its about time he actually decided to move up the order.

Posted by Edassery on (March 5, 2013, 9:13 GMT)

Since Punter left, it was imperative that he batted at 4 and even at 3 as Phil Hughes and injured Watson wasn't quite consistent. Good that he is realizing it now.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

i understand the idea of sticking your best batter at 3 or 4 but the stats dont lie and with clarke batting at number 5 not only is he putting massive totals on he is bailing the team out of trouble (Yes it shouldnt be upto him all the time for Australia but i have never seen such a dominant player under pressure)... I have never been big on watson in test cricket but i do find he needs to open. My ideal Line up Warner Watson Cowan Khawaja Clarke Henriques Maxwell Wade Johnson Starc Lyon. i think pattinson and siddle need a rest though after the last thrashing bring on some new quicks and leave hughes out until england tour.

Posted by Tom_Bowler on (March 5, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

Aussie selection policy looks so muddled to me; too many bits and pieces men and one day cricketers, when they have gone for specialists they've not always picked the right ones. As an England fan I will be delighted if they rock up next summer with Warner and Hughes in the top three, that formula will result in regularly finding themselves 14-2 with the newly elevated Pup in against the new ball. I can see why going to older players who missed out in the golden age might seem a bit retrograde, they won't be about for much over a couple of years, but David Hussey and Chris Rogers have been pasting English county attacks for years and would be a much better bet than a flat-footed T20 biffer and a guy whose coaching manual was illustrated by Terry Gilliam.

Posted by rabsmarshall on (March 5, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

how about we get rid of the top four batsmen? its not as though they are contributing. it is disgusting that the bowlers are constantly blamed. come on!!!! get real. none of the top four batsman have a century? hmmmm

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

Clarke has a good temperament for first drop and in placing him there, it would allow players like Khawaja and Doolan to have an easier time of it in the middle order while they find their feet.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Team India, go one step ahead and think of Mohali. No matter how hard the curator tries to mold the deck for spin, seam and swing seem to be an innate affair as far as that particular stadium is concerned. As an Indian fan, I would like to closely monitor the way our batters perform in Mohali. We are playing against a weak team at the moment with relatively new chaps around and therefore to up the bar a bit, we need to see things from a diversified perspective. Can our batters score against Patti and Starc in Mohali? Remains a question for me. Our next trip is to South Africa..let's never forget that. It shouldn't at all be a case of too happy..yet, too less.

Posted by FrankG on (March 5, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

I used to play an international racket game state level when I was young. After every game I watched senior and more experienced players and learnt their tactics and techniques to improve myself. The Aussie players have still not learnt some basics when playing spin EVE after 3 innings and watching how the Indians went about their batting. What is going on with these young players? What does it take to learn?

Posted by Chris_Howard on (March 5, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

Cowan,Warner,Clarke, Kawahja, Watson, Maxwell/Henriques, Wade, Siddle,Pattinson,Starc,Lyon. Play Maxwell or Henriques depending on the pitch. And if Watson doesn't perform, bring back Maxwell/Henriques for the fourth Test.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:32 GMT)

I think the should promote watson and Hughes was fail in both test matches.he should drop from next test and give chance to usman

Posted by creekeetman on (March 5, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

if clarke moves up the order... where is kallis.. err i mean watson going to bat?

Posted by SirViv1973 on (March 5, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

It will be interesting to see if Clarke will bat at 3 or 4. I feel sure Hughes will be replaced by Khawlja who will bat 5. The tricky choice should be who opens. Watson only seems to do well when he opens but if he does go back to the top of the order it would mean either Cowan or Warner dropping down.

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (March 5, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

The same fans who were asking Lyon to be dropped from the team after the first Test are now asking him to play the third Test. Hahaha, Australian fans are hilarious.

Posted by Md.Wasimmmmmmmmm on (March 5, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

Yes he should come at No:4. Watson & Warner open at No 03: it should be khawaja.

Posted by Edwards_Anderson on (March 5, 2013, 8:26 GMT)

Watson leaves the Indian shores to be with his pregnant wife so expect Khawaja to come in and about time the kid got a crack as he will add some stability to the top 4 but given his past treatment nothing would surprise me. Phil Hughes has scores of 19, 0, 6 and 0 in the four innings he has played here and it's not different for him than it was for Shaun Marsh in that home series against India couple of seasons ago. He could also make his way out unless something drastic transpires between now and the start of the third Test.From those in the squad, I wouldn't be surprised if Smith came in for either Hughes of Cowan. Considering Glenn Maxwell's performance, he has been a bit of surprise. I thought his selection to be a defensive move, got in to prop up the batting with a handy option of bowling a few overs. It turned out to be the other way around - he was poor with the bat and after a miserable first couple of spells with the bowl and is not test material when i thought he might be.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

"Michael Clarke has confirmed that he will move up the order from his customary No. 5 position". At least we know who has the power and calls the shots at the selection meetings.

Personally, I think it's a terrible move!!!

Posted by Kohli--The_Messi_of_Cricket on (March 5, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

6 Aussie batsmen bowled : 0 Indian batsmen bowled. Wonder what new excuses Aussie fans will make for this game.

Posted by Sachit1979 on (March 5, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

This fiasco was well predictable even before start of this series. They had 5 lefties in their order. It was kind of offering flesh to Indian spin tigers Ashwin and Bhajji and no surprises they are enjoying the treat now. 8 men out of 11 playing in Indian soil for first time. Is it a test side coming here to fight the battle of supremacy or an emerging CA side coming here to gain some experience? Shane Watson and James Pattinson picked into squad without much of practice after recovery from injury, no backup for Wade, sub standard spin attack, relatively inexperienced pace attack and completely inexperienced batting. I don't think CA selectors would have done worst than it. Experience soldiers of Cricket Australia like Chris Rogers, David Hussey, Brad Hodge, Tim Paine, Ben Hilfenhaus etc should have been there in this squad instead of bunch of cadets picked.

Posted by Mary_786 on (March 5, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

Khawaja must come in the next test. The break between the next test should help the quick bowlers recuperate from bowling all those overs under the scorching heat of Chennai and Hyderabad and the Mohali track should give the quick bowlers a tad more assistance.That said, India have won both Tests they played against Australia at Mohali and those were at the start of the season when the pitches are a lot fresher. Now, the Mohali pitch could turn slightly more than at the start of the season. As for the bad news Cowan and Hughes can't continue in the linuep, i would give Hughes one more test but Cowan who after 15 tests hasn't impressed must go but Hughes has looked worse then him. Khawaja must come in and bat him in the top 3 as he is one of our better top order batsman. Lyon has to come back into the team, put some faith in your top spinner.

Posted by satishchandar on (March 5, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

Remove Hughes, Watson, Siddle and Maxwell. Bring in Khawaja at 3 - He might have playing spin in his blood like Amla. Clarke at 4, Watson(Just give him one last chance , Wade at 6, Henriques @ 7, Smith @ 8 (Better player of spin than Maxwell and same pie chucker with ball just try him), Johnson @ 9(His skiddy bowling may have more impact than Siddle) followed by Pattinson and Lyon..

Posted by maverick77 on (March 5, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

@Int.Curator - I have seen all your comments everywhere else as well as here. This article was more in regard to MC's move upwards in the batting order. It's fairly obvious you have an issue with Indian Cricket (not just the pitches). Face the fact that Aus was beaten, and beaten convincingly and it cannot just be due to the pitches. Everyone knows troubles for Aus selectors had begun even before the Aus team got on the plane (the selection). So take chill pill or take your grouse somewhere else and start praying really hard before the Ashes approaches.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

It didn't feel right when Quiney was sacrificed against South Africa so that Hughes makes his debut against a lesser attack of Sri Lanka. And all those easy runs made now have been proven worthless against the Indian spin. Clarke must bat at 4 with Watson at 3 for the moment. Khwaja who should come in at 5 would mean Clarke will have the assurance of a batsman coming in after him. For the sake of Cricket lets hope Australia batting mproves and their bowlers prevent India from posting 500 like they have been in every test.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

Hughes is not up to test standard. Watson is seriously overrated (just check his average if you have any doubts) and all except Clarke are just 'battlers' at test level. Then there are our bowlers. Apart from that we're looking pretty good.

Posted by shayad on (March 5, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

the main problem is number 3 its very imp postion for team and that is the weakest link for aus in current series so only that change will work for aus aus shod give chance to khawaja he is far better number 3 then useless hughes ok give warner and cowan chance to open nu 3 khawaja 4 clark 5 watson 6 henriques 7 wade 8 maxwell 9 johnson 10 pattinson 11 lyon (because after warne ret. he is the most succsfull spinner for aus give himm proper run)

Posted by Tumbarumbar on (March 5, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

What is the chance of the bowlers being blamed for two more batting failures? Despite everything that has been said and written the bowlers have managed to bowl the opposition out regardless of the conditions whereas the batsmen have only lasted more than a day once. How must it feel as a bowler to know that a batsmen can flail around like a goose skating, contribute nothing for game after game and keep his place while you can bowl well, beat the bat thirty times, have a catch or two dropped, have a few decisions go against you and then get dropped for not performing after just one game? Hello Phil Hughes, Xavier Doherty and Matty Wade by the way.

Posted by tick on (March 5, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

By the look of this Australian team there must be a Pak vs Aus test series in UAE.. a whitewash by the hands of Ajmal,Rehman,Hafeez will be surety..and don't think any match will even enter the 4th day..Also this will be a massive boost for Pakistan test team after the hammering they got in Southafrican test series.. come on ICC,PCB and CA .. yikes.. lolz

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

only one problem I see - who's gonna rescue us now?

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:13 GMT)

@Int.Curator: keep dreaming of the old days and stop whinging ! this will be painful and it might end as 14-0 for the aussies, if England can make it 10-0 !

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:09 GMT)

I think warner needs a break. hughes is far more superior when it comes to technique. watson shud open with cowan followed by usman khwaja followed by pup, followed by henriques, folllowd by wade followed by hughes followed by maxwell.

Posted by stormer1980 on (March 5, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

Well now we know how rubbish Australia really is in Tests ... So Mr Thompson ... what happened to your much vaunted Batting and Bowling Attack .. at least SA are unbeaten away from home for .. well jeez , its been so long ... ! While I can admit that SA limited overs teams are in shambles .. i think sometimes its ok to admit that Aus is rubbish

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 8:07 GMT)

Hear that sound? It's the sigh uttered by the Aussies upon hearing this piece of news!

Posted by pom_don on (March 5, 2013, 8:05 GMT)

A shame for the once mighty Australia one positive to come out of this might be to silence the Australian 'England knockers' who were putting down our triumph over India calling it the 'battle of the minnows' & that it was expected that we should defeat the weak Indians.(RandyOz in particular) & we should take no glory out of it & that our pool of talent was pathetic...........well I think we are doing rather OK at the moment & long may it continue. Here's hoping Aus put up a better show in the next tests.

Posted by Int.Curator on (March 5, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

The only way Indian cricket will create teams that have success outside India is when they prepare more traditional pitches. Winning at home on doctored pitches has proven to be fruitless long term. Facts Since 2003 the ICC test rating at No1. is Australia with 74 months. For six years at No1 Australia have conquered, mastered all skill sets required on a diverse range of pitches. India ICC rating is 21 months at No1. Maybe India's lack of skill set due to pitch diversity at home really isn't that grand.

Posted by stoos on (March 5, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

another reason to get experience in and bring back in hodge especially with the ashes coming up

Posted by 1st_april on (March 5, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

Anyone interested in giving George Bailey a chance?.....Ferguson couldn't get a test spot on 50 over form though.... Khawaja <-> Hughes , Doherty <-> Lyon.....Bailey can come in for Watson....if Watson can't bowl....why not replace him with a better batsman?

Posted by tfjones1978 on (March 5, 2013, 8:00 GMT)

The sad truth is right now, if Clarke doesnt score an aggregate of 250+ in a match then the team will loose, less then 100 aggregate and they will loose by an innings. We must remember that this is a 1985 Australian Cricket team (two generations ago) with one player (border) scoring the runs and leading the side. In comparison, Australia has only been competitive in two series against India in India in modern times and only won one series against India in India since 1969, and that was perhaps with the greatest team of all time under a player who I think was underestimated in his captaincy ability, our great number seven of yesterday, Adam Gilchrist. Lets put this into perspective!

Posted by hes_a_victorian on (March 5, 2013, 7:58 GMT)

What is left to say? Embarrassing, shambolic, ill-prepared but above all ill-equipped for the conditions is how I'd describe this team. I'd like to know what they were teaching at the pre-series camp, because I don't think anyone was listening with perhaps the exception of Clarke and Cowan (who despite having a limited game at least has application and concentration). We always knew our bowling was going to struggle but the batting is a joke. Warner, Hughes and Watson's efforts have been nothing short of appalling, can't even learn lessons from their own failures. But what other options are there?

Posted by t20-2007 on (March 5, 2013, 7:58 GMT)

yes...To improve ...the first task is to change the team first and include those who can improve untill then with the same set of players we ll get the same results...I'm totally gutted with the display

Posted by phunny_game on (March 5, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

I guess Hughes will be the one to be left out... That guy is a good player, even without a decent technique, he has succeeded at the highest level... I hope that doesn't happen, and its just a reshuffling of batting order since he deserves more chances... The Mohali pitch is also a better batting wicket, where the ball comes nicely onto the bat, and it has pace in it as well...

However, if he is really dropped and someone comes into the team and scores runs, then it will be a headache for the Aussie selectors as Hughes is sure to score runs in the ashes...!!!

Posted by disco_bob on (March 5, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

He may as well go the whole hog and bat at 3 because he's basically batting first drop as it is. At least some good has come out of this mess. We'll certainly need him up the order for England that's for sure.

I hope we can give Khawaja a run for the remaining 4 innings.

Posted by Bonehead_maz on (March 5, 2013, 7:49 GMT)

I really think Hughes needs a break - he's resembling a startled rabbit in headlights just at the moment.

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