India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad, 4th day

Mismatch in skills makes for no-contest

India had more skill and determination than Australia in the conditions in Chennai and Hyderabad and the results reflected that

Sharda Ugra

March 5, 2013

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Ravindra Jadeja punches the air after getting a wicket, India v Australia, 2nd Test, Hyderabad, 4th day, March 5, 2013
Ravindra Jadeja is proving to be an excellent fifth bowling option in home conditions © BCCI
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After the relief of Chennai, comes the emphatic joy of Hyderabad. India will believe they have the number of the Australians in this series, which cannot be lost from here.

When one team scores 500-plus, margins of defeat are likely to be large, but the Australian batting performance, would have indicated to the Indians that the opposition batsmen are, for the moment, in a word, shot.

If the Australian response to the deficit of 266 runs was, as many are calling it, un-Australian in its lack of resolve, the Indian reaction arrived at a kindly conclusion - that the Australian second innings batting lacked skill rather than intent. In unfamiliar and difficult conditions, it takes equal amounts of skill and determination, not one or the other, to make contests possible.

Hyderabad was not, it must be said, a contest. India were able to bring their skills to work in familiar conditions and to make it count. Along with a Test victory, MS Dhoni's elevation to the position of India's most successful Test captain and a 2-0 series lead, there were other less discernible or quantifiable gains that can be considered.

The key hand played by their newer and younger players - Bhuvneshwar Kumar and Ravindra Jadeja, five Tests between them - and the return of M Vijay to the front line. While Cheteshwar Pujara and R Ashwin have been making consistent progress in their performances in home series, Bhuvneshwar, Jadeja and Vijay give the selectors and the team management more options than they had three months ago, when England turned the tables on the Indians.

Jadeja and Bhuvneshwar offer two sets of alternative all-round options. Jadeja's role is being treated as a very limited one - that of spin-bowling allrounder in conditions like Chennai and Hyderabad. Yet if he is able to, a la Ravi Shastri, make more of his batting than he has in this series, India can count on his skills in conditions where playing a fifth bowler might make sense, and not just in India. Jadeja's skills on slow, turning wickets could be made to work outside India too. India have not won a series in Sri Lanka in 20 years, where it's slow and turning too, and pitches in the West Indies have certainly not been juiced up recently.

Jadeja is a radically different fifth bowling option for India, a slot that has been filled by many forms and shapes in the past. In the last 15 years, though, it is the medium-pace variety of Sourav Ganguly and Sanjay Bangar that has been brought into play, Bangar playing a vital role opening the batting for India in Headingley 2002 and taking two second-innings wickets. Players with double skills and resolve are not easily found. Bhuvneshwar's biggest asset is that he is able to bowl tight, disciplined medium-pace in conditions that do not help his brand of bowling because those are the only conditions he knows.

Bhuvneshwar happens to be a like-for-like copy of Praveen Kumar, the rare Indian performance in the tear-jerker that was England 2011. India return to England in a little more than a year and, in Bhuvneshwar, they are presented with a possibility. Between now and mid-2014, enhancing his batting skills for conditions found outside the subcontinent could perhaps end up being an example of genuine "informed player management" for India.

In the buzz of victory came Gautam Gambhir's tweet: "Smells like revenge. Half way there boys. remember Perth? Remember Adelaide? Two more, come on." Just like India believe Chennai and Hyderabad were victories of more skill over less skill and more determination over less, so indeed were Adelaide and Perth. Ideally, real vengeance means travelling back to Adelaide and Perth and returning the favours of 2012. Talk of payback at the moment remains mere advertising.

The last two Tests will be played in conditions that are at least expected to be different to those in Chennai and Hyderabad. Mohali's reputation as India's 'quickest' wicket has outlived the truth by several seasons. The Kotla in Delhi can offer a 5-o'clock-stubble of grass but it is, as Delhi captain Shikhar Dhawan will confirm, only a means to confuse the batsmen. It is believed the Australian fast bowlers may show up in force but as long as their batsman don't, the series will remain one-sided.

Sharda Ugra is senior editor at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by TRAM on (March 7, 2013, 0:56 GMT)

Jadeja is the 4th bowler - after Ashwin/Ohja/Bhuvi. And he is the 10th or may be the 11th batsman. He is the #1 fielder, #2 being Raina. I think simple ranking like this in the 3 fields (bat/bowl/field) and adding them should give the player's net ranking (lowest number being the best). Wondering what ranking Sehwag, Harbajan. Ishant would get !

Posted by lara999 on (March 6, 2013, 19:27 GMT)

Ok, sure the Indian team has been pathetic overseas recently. But why do the pundits (yes, incl u Ugra) overemphasize fast tracks only as if that is the only cricket that counts, and spinning tracks are most often looked at as not up to international standards. These tracks have been sporting and would have lasted 5 full days if the Aussies had showed some skill, application and determination. I have seen fast tracks regularly produce results less than 5 days, oftentimes 2 and 3 days, and these are celebrated for the outstanding fast, seam, swing bowling, etc. Why does real vengeance mean traveling back to Adelaide and Perth - sure winning there would be great, but you make no sense in defining that as the only option for "real vengeance". I think humbling and frankly embarrassing the Aussies as well as exposing their lack of skill to cope in conditions away from their home pitches (aha, they seem to have a similar problem to India) is real enough vengeance.

Posted by Nampally on (March 6, 2013, 19:17 GMT)

Now we are talking of mismatch of skills to play spin bowling on Indian pitches. But soon we may be talking about the same mismatch to play fast bowlers on the SA pitches unless India plans right Now. Firstly almost all Fast bowlers are on the injured list- recovering. Yadev, Aaron, Irfan Pathan to name 3 potential candidates. Sreesanth has not been tried. This leaves just Ishant Sharma. B.Kumar & Shami Ahmad - none can bowl consistently over 140 KPH. So what is India doing in this field? Secondly the opening batsmen issue is not yet resolved.Even assuming Vijay is one opener, the second opener is a big? There are 6 candidtaes but none have been tried What are the Selectors thinking about? Thirdly the Spinners. One of them will be Ashwin. Ojha will be out because Dhoni prefers Jadeja. Hopefully Bhaji will be Out! Lastly the batting which is in half decent shape mainly because of Pujara, Tendulkar & Kohli @ 3,4,5 spots. I think the last middle order batsmen should include Tiwary.

Posted by YaksNad on (March 6, 2013, 18:58 GMT)

Revenge is actually the right word if a 4-0 or 3-0 happens (though test matches seem to have results more often than not now-a-days). Winning in Adelaide or Perth will be something much more, as big if not bigger than when Kumble's team of experienced players had won in Perth.

Posted by Harmony111 on (March 6, 2013, 16:33 GMT)

@Int.Curator: A very simple thing that you must understand is that there is no one "NORMAL" wicket. There are several ways where a wicket can be made normal. It is all a case of having the right resources for a given wicket. Is there is a NORMAL Tennis surface? Which is more NORMAL? Grass or Clay or Hard? Which tennis match is more standard? There it is a case of having the right style for the surface to do well and similarly in cricket too the players must know the right way to play on a given wicket instead of saying "Oh this is not a NORMAL wicket anyways so our performance here does not matter."

As long as a wicket poses no excessive physical injury risk it should be ok to play on it.

Tell me how long have Aus been #1 since Aug 2009? ZERO weeks. India have been #1 for 21 weeks during that period. What happened to Aus there? They were still playing on NORMAL wickets, right?

Posted by Harmony111 on (March 6, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

@Int.Curator: A very simple thing that you must understand is that there is no one "NORMAL" wicket. There are several ways where a wicket can be made normal. It is all a case of having the right resources for a given wicket. Is there is a NORMAL Tennis surface? Which is more NORMAL? Grass or Clay or Hard? Which tennis match is more standard? There it is a case of having the right style for the surface to do well and similarly in cricket too the players must know the right way to play on a given wicket instead of saying "Oh this is not a NORMAL wicket anyways so our performance here does not matter."

As long as a wicket poses no excessive physical injury risk it should be ok to play on it.

Pity that you know so little about NORMAL wickets even though your handle is Int.Curator.

Tell me how long have Aus been #1 since Aug 2009? ZERO weeks. India have been #1 for 21 weeks during that period. What happened to Aus there? They were still playing on NORMAL wickets, right? Huh stats.

Posted by Harmony111 on (March 6, 2013, 15:07 GMT)

@Int.Curator: In the 2 tests so far, we have seen MSD playing a destructive stroke-filled 200, CP getting a very fluent 200 & MV too getting a big 100 that became more fluent as he got his confidence back. in 2001, AG scored that magnificent 100 in Mumbai, so how can you say these wickets do not promote stroke-play? When Ind batsmen get 100s in Tests/ODIs in India/SC then you label these as flat wickets good for batting and call our batsmen as FTB and when your batsmen fail then you call these wickets as not good for stroke-making. How confused you are???

You can't say these wickets have no bounce. Rem the ball that got Viru or that got Wade or Hughes or Patt's bouncer to MV? You just need the right skill to get that bounce.

These wickets are full of runs, give ample help to spinners, give good help to fast/seam/swing bowlers too - Did you see Bhuvnesh? He got the ball to talk even late on Day 3.

And these wickets did not crumble. What exactly is your problem with these wickets?

Posted by Int.Curator on (March 6, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

@Nitin Sawhney are you telling me that Indian pitches are the norm? Then why have since 2003 has India's ICC test ranking at No1. been only for 21 months. For a team that regularly plays on normal pitches. While Australia's ICC test ranking at No1. since 2003 is 74 months. Can you please explain why Australia has been 75% more successful than India. Ouch! It's all about being able to adapt on all types of pitches. History proves Australia has done this better than any other country.

Posted by DaisonGarvasis on (March 6, 2013, 10:39 GMT)

Well, indeed this is REVENGE. When India was beaten in unfamiliar conditions and Clarke and Co. were said to be destined to Greatness by the performance in that series, why can't Dhoni and Co be now a great team beating the SAME Ausee team??? If Conditions in Australia are "Normal" to Australains, the Conditions in India are just as NORMAL to Indians.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

Int.Curator - "These" pitches the norm in South Asia, and South Asia is now 90% of the cricket world in terms of number of viewers. Also, the West Indies are increasingly producing pitches like these as well. Australia, SA, and England do not constitute "most test playing nations." Wake up and smell the coffee, old boy. Then take a pinch of reality salt and those grapes won't seem as sour any more.

Posted by Fast_Track_Bully on (March 6, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

Guys relax. No body in the team or the captain mentioned it as payback or revenge. It is a player who is not in the current team commented like that. Whats the importance of that? Why to blame Indian team for that? grow up.

Posted by Int.Curator on (March 6, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

The problem with these pitches are they do not compliment all the skills cricket have to offer. These pitches are extremely unique and require well adapted skills. Traditional pitches as the name describes are common in most cricketing nations. This provides the game cricket with the foundation for athletes to test all their skills rather than a few really well. My opinion regarding Indian pitches is they detract from the game, reduce shot makers to accumulators, pace bowlers useless and probably the reason why spectators switch off and wait eagerly for the Ashes Series.

Posted by everfaithful77 on (March 6, 2013, 7:43 GMT)

I think it was a BIG mistake to leave out Nathan Lyon from the 2nd test. He's a real fighter. Doherty's test figures are very unflattering and therfore shouldn't have played ahead of the more successful Lyon. Australia lost this match mainly because of the huge partnership between Pujara and Vijay so if it had been broken earlier they would've been in with a chance. The Aussies should go back to 3 quicks, Lyon for the next test but the batting including Maxwell is the best possible. My take on the batting line-up is that they are hurting from the absence of Mike Hussey at # 6 coming in when the opposition bowlers were tired. Maxwell & Henriques can compete for that spot. Good move for Clarke to go up to # 4 to stabilize middle and Watson down to # 5 to stregthen lower order. I'm not an Aussie but I believe your best line-up for 3rd test reads: 1.Warner, 2.Cowan, 3.Hughes, 4.Clarke, 5.Watson, 6.Wade, 7. Maxwell, 8.Siddle, 9.Pattinson, 10.Stark, 11.Lyon.

Posted by Jayakrishna87 on (March 6, 2013, 7:07 GMT)

Very well written Sharda Ugra.Every Indian team member should be given a copy and to be said " Boss! Come into reality".

Posted by RISHI2016 on (March 6, 2013, 6:54 GMT)

@hassanahmed you yurself are answering ur question.. the conditions are different and hence skiils are required to adopt to those conditions.. hence it is the skill issue for any team.. it was the skills of english cricketers who could adopt real well.. Too early to pass judgement on bhuvi as he is yet to bowl in all sessions of a test match.. nonetheless he is a good prospect.. what is with these up bowlers with brilliant swings ??? i definitely have to take my words back for what i said about jadeja previously..but wonder how effective it would be get ojha back he is just 9 shy of 100 wickets and can be faster to reach there than kumble..

Posted by UAETigers on (March 6, 2013, 6:47 GMT)

I am amazed how Australians has lost the spinners they used to have! Warne-Mcgill kind of bowlers! Shane warne should spent time in Australia and try to find a genuine leg spinner for the team rahter then critisizing the CA and playing in IPL.

Posted by rogan on (March 6, 2013, 6:38 GMT)

I do not agree that the Australian batsmen are shot. However, I do believe that perhaps one or two of them should be. It may encourage the others to do better.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 6:19 GMT)

Will there ever be a day when Indian writers @ Cricinfo can write an article without bemoaning our test losses in Eng and Aus...c'mon guys, time to move on!

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 6:17 GMT)

Same can be said about India's 8-0 loss against england and australia so those wins, for the two overhyped teams can be said as lack of practice and determination to win. Hence sharda concludes the 4-0 wins of aus and england makes no sense and it is no match........

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 6:15 GMT)

Dont agree with the headline of the article. Its not about the skills. Its the conditions. The score line would be opposite with the same set of players if the series is played in Australia.

Posted by paps123 on (March 6, 2013, 6:02 GMT)

AUS needs to play 2 specialist spinners and the fast bowlers must learn to reverse the bowl away from right handers also, like Anderson did so brilliantly in the last series. Clarke should not show his anger at team mates for poor performance and try to give confidence as this is one tough tour for the young players. I would just like to see AUS players get right forward or back while playing spin and not get caught half cog in their footwork. India are a definite better side in our conditions but Australia must have the belief to fight back and hope they do.

Posted by shripadk on (March 6, 2013, 5:54 GMT)

The complaint about pitch is funny. I see lot of prominent people from media and ex cricketers from other countries saying India should make greener, bouncy and pacey pitches. But what about other countries. Look at Australia. They are either making green and pacey wickets or flat but bouncy wickets. Not spinning wickets. Sydney used to spin from day 1 or 2 in past. I have seen Warn and Mcgill turn ball by a yard on that pitch in past. Adelaide would start breaking and turn from day 3 or so. Now it does not. Now they have made the wickets that do not spin. If Australia wants their batsman to learn to play spin, they need to have variable wickets in their country as well. Just like we say India should make more sporting wickets (and India has such wickets ), they should start making variable wickets in their own backyard, specially knowing they had such wickets in past. Hyderabad was not a bad wicket at all. It is as author says pure lack of skill that resulted in such collapse.

Posted by Int.Curator on (March 6, 2013, 4:50 GMT)

In regard to skill. India know these pitches better than anyone. Spin bowling and graft an innings. If you consider skillful fieldsman, pace bowlers or batting stroke makers I think of Australia on more traditional pitches.

Posted by Mitcher on (March 6, 2013, 4:47 GMT)

Agree with @Redneck. Australia are TERRIBLE in India, but this doesn't translate to all spinning tracks. Our record in Sri Lanka embarrasses India's. Yet none of this makes up for this disgraceful display. Just helps if people get their gloating accurate.

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (March 6, 2013, 4:45 GMT)

In the Test that Ravi Shastri made his debut, I recall him taking the last 3 New Zealand wickets in the second innings having taken 3 already in the first. At that point he was a match-winning bowler as his WSC Champion of Champions in 1985 established. But his batting potential was recognised even in his debut game mentioned above for its toughness. He was in fact pushed up to open against Pakistan in the 1982/83 series when he scored a century against Imran and others. Ravindra Jadeja's case seems similar to me. He is a match-winner both as bowler and batsman.His round arm bowling could in the years ahead be talked of as Vinoo Mankad's and his batting is in the Kathiawari tradition of doubles and triples. At this stage his batting exploits have been seen only in domestic matches. But a hundred on a difficult wicket will bring out Jadeja the batsman in Tests. I have no doubt at all that he will be an all-rounder in the Shastri mould in the years to come. He is a natural cricketer.

Posted by Vivekaks on (March 6, 2013, 4:12 GMT)

First of all, congratulations to Team India on the resounding victory. About the revenge angle...it sure is not, we had a fairly full strength squad playing in australia last year and were beaten neck and crop. We had 3 players with 400+ tests of experience and we returned empty handed. And we are talking about Australian team which has landed here with less than 250 tests between them. So all the talks of revenge are jus jingoistic in nature. I remember how "England Ki Pungi" adverts before the Poms landed here. We lost 2-1 to a side thats probably never had quality bats against spin. Australians have had better. We were just complacent and winning that series would have been a revenge, as we were playing the same team which defeated us in England. The Indian team is in transistion, each win has to be celebrated and not treated as revenge. We should gush about the new talent and not go over the top. The real test lies overseas, and I would hope, we can slay the demons of 2011-12

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 3:57 GMT)

It's a bit naive to talk about revenge and all those kind of stuff. Let your game do the talking and rest will take care of itself. I would be gobsmacked if Aussies are indeed white washed, I expect them to come back very very strongly, look at their history and even during worst days there weren't many whitewashes. I agree with the writer, the issue with Aussie batters is down to skill and what is also important to note is both teams India and Australia are very good in their own backyards. So as Indian fans while we should enjoy this victory, this is not be all end all. There are lot of questions for India to be answered as well, the Sehwag conundrum, how to include Ojha, fast bowling stocks and equally important slip catchers. After IPL India are mostly going to be travelling so this the real test. Winning at home is great but to be a competent team (capable of winning) when playing abroad should be the priority and planning/thinking should start now.

Posted by venkatesh018 on (March 6, 2013, 3:48 GMT)

It doesn't require hindsight to say that Mike Hussey should have been asked to continue playing on atleast until the Ashes series back in Australia in 2013=14. In India he would have never been allowed to "retire" with such crucial Tests coming up. His boots are the most difficult to fill.

Posted by redneck on (March 6, 2013, 3:26 GMT)

look aus have been pathetic this tour but so to are some of the comments on this post!!! @ChuckyDoll mate we have never lost a series in sri lanka, you have gone 20 years!!! we also managed an innings victory on the last tour of england with a 2-1 loss still miles better than 4-0!!! australia havent lost a series in south africa since they came back to the fold, and like india went to dominca 1-0 up but unlike india still played to win. granted australia seem to go to pieces when playing tests in india but dont paint us with the same brush as india abroad we have one country where the wheels fall off you guys have 7!!! hell you guys even failed to go to zimbabwe and win a ODI series on your last attempt!!! even the aussie A team even managed to do that!!!

Posted by IndTheBest on (March 6, 2013, 3:22 GMT)

Dhoni & company shouldn't be relax with two straight wins. Mohali is a fast pitch it will suite more to Australians than Indians. Indian selectors must try 'Jiwanjot Singh' in opening position and Sandeep Sharma (both from Punjab had tremendous success in recent ranji season on Mohali pitch) instead of one of the spinner to win the match. Many people may not agree but I'd play Jiwanjot instead of Vijay even though he has hit century in last match. My selection is based on ground/condition and form of course!

Posted by MrKricket on (March 6, 2013, 3:05 GMT)

Aus never do well in India which highlights how good the 2004 side was and 2001 to a lesser extent. All praise to India for winning of course after getting pasted in Australia. The loss of Ponting and Hussey just highlights how the cracks in the batting have been papered over for the past few years (with Clarke as well) and we are left with flat track bullies. Hughes is finished. He needs another few years on the sideline. Cowan might come good. Watson is a worry - not sure he can hang on. Warner needs to learn a new game - this isn't T20 - he can bat all day for 30 runs and I'd be happy! Wade is not good enough for number 6. I'd almost bring Haddin back and that's saying something.

As for spin bowling - where is the Warne-McGill Spin Academy?

Posted by maddy20 on (March 6, 2013, 2:13 GMT)

@ hhillbumper The openers were out of form, middle order had two variable who had less than 15 tests between them, same was the case with the lead spinners. They are gaining in experience and will only get better. Next time England gets here, it will be an abbatoir. but first I would like them to do well in England and the Champions trophy would not be a bad place to start(for they have won none in 2011) As for the opposition they have had the luxury of South African imports, some of them being game changers like KP.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 2:08 GMT)

hhillbumper: Most sane Indians will not say that the Indian team is a world beater based on the last 2 test matches. However, what it has shown is how poor the Australian team is. I give them aln=most no chance for the upcoming Ashes in England and even in the home Ashes series. More than Ponting, the loss of Hussey is being felt by the Aussies. Ponting was not playing well anyways. He had just one good series in the last 2-3 series against a sub-standard Indian bowling attack. Hussey on the other hand was the back bone along with Clarke!

Posted by balajik1968 on (March 6, 2013, 1:38 GMT)

I am surprised by the way the Aussies have fallen away. In Chennai, they were in the game till Dhoni's innings. But this was totally one-sided. However, India should not get carried away. We must remember that England comprehensively outplayed us just a couple of months back. Jadeja is over-rated. He has not done anything to convince us that he can be a good no. 7. India needs to look elsewhere for the no.7. Pragyan Ojha is India's no.1 spinner. Dhoni sidelining him to give an opportunity to his CSK teammate is grossly unfair. As for the Ashes, I see a rout. England must be positively salivating at the prospect of playing this Aussie team.

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 1:14 GMT)

@WonkyBail - T20/ODI a real test of skill? Stunned

Posted by   on (March 6, 2013, 1:14 GMT)

Totally agree here, saying REVENGE is useless, it will be revenge if we go to Australia and win the series where we got embarrassed. Everyone knows that in your own backyard even a puppy seems like a bulldog. The biggest achievement I see out of winning these first 2 tests and would love to see 2 more victories is the confidence of winning and I saw the team play well as a unit. This year and next will be a test in SA & ENG. Negitives, Biggest problem with the current Indian team 1) Sehwag & Bhajji are finished 2) Gambhir wont be successful in ENG or SA. 3) Ishant has had too long of a rope. 4) Future of SRT Proper fixes for SA tour. Get Umesh Fit, give him proper rest before SA, have him play in Champions trophy. Give Bhuvi rest as well & get sreesanth/munaf patel/ Dinesh karthik (opener), match ready with tours with india A. SA & ENG XI: 1. DK 2. Vijay 3. Pujara 4. SRT/Rayadu 5. Virat 6. MSD 7. Radeja/Rahane 8. Ashwin/Munaf (conditions) 9. Bhuvi 10. Umesh 11. Sreesanth LETS GO INDIA

Posted by sportofpain on (March 6, 2013, 0:48 GMT)

@santhoo24: Well said mate. Celebrate the wins. They were won fair and square and there is much to be proud about. I can't believe the drivel that some folks who call themselves fans dish out - damned if you win and damned if you lose seems to be their philosophy. I for one am happy with these two wins and even if we lose the next two games will cherish these wins for what they are - wins.

Posted by sportofpain on (March 6, 2013, 0:41 GMT)

@hhillbumper: What is your point - that we lost badly overseas? We all know that. But we are defeating your team soundly at the moment showing that we are a very good side at home. England defeated us at home an away so they are the better team and we respect them. Can you for just a minute salute India for its wins in the last two tests?

Posted by TheDoctor394 on (March 6, 2013, 0:39 GMT)

I've noticed a few people lately saying the top four in Australia all average under 40. Warner, even after this last match, currently averages 42.21.

Posted by sportofpain on (March 6, 2013, 0:38 GMT)

@InsideHedge: Stop it with your condescension. How many runs have you scored and how many wickets have you taken? It pains me to see the way some fans, most of whom can't hold a bat, will criticize players who play at the highest level. I myself played at the Under 19 state level and some team mates/ opponents went on to play for India. I understand how hard it is to play competitive cricket with some success so my admiration for the players who make it to the highest level runs deep. Sachin, Sehwag, Zaheer, Harbhajan are Indian cricket legends - be respectful of them not dismissive.

Posted by OhhhhhMattyMatty on (March 6, 2013, 0:37 GMT)

What is India's obsession with revenge? Serious problems with their mental attributes, if they are forever hell bent on making up for being battered all the time. Why not avoid getting battered in the first place?

Posted by crindo77 on (March 5, 2013, 23:48 GMT)

"Ideally, real vengeance means travelling back to Adelaide and Perth and returning the favours of 2012." Wishful thinking Ms Ugra. We are a major cricketing nation, have huge resources, huge public support and we have NEVER won a Test series in Australia or any series in South Africa. Forget vengeance. Home turf success not to be ignored, that is the ONLY test success that India are accustomed to do. The last Test series win in SL, where the pitches are mostly mudbaths, was 22 years ago. For all the IPL and endorsement millions is there nobody who can win a Test series in Oz/SA? After 70 years of Test cricket? You can well understand GG's spite in the statement. For when the ball is swinging or is chest high, he is nowhere to be seen.As if everytime the Indian team gets on a plane they leave their cajones in the BCCI vaults for safekeeping.

Posted by Blokey on (March 5, 2013, 23:39 GMT)

Just one question, Mr Ugra. I've been watching YouTube videos of Ranji trophy matches, and I notice that the pitches are very different from the ones this test series is being played on. In fact those Ranji trophy pitches look pretty normal, with a some grass and an even texture right across the surface. There's no spurt of dust when the ball lands, no dust cloud as the bowler runs up to deliver the ball. The videos show pace bowlers charging in and getting wickets. In fact most of the bowlers shown in the videos are pace bowlers. But here we have spinners opening the bowling. Maybe you can help me out on this one. Thanks.

Posted by cricketcritic on (March 5, 2013, 23:21 GMT)

The problem for Australia is they aren't good enough, and there's no-one else. The roundabout selections of the last few years have shown that. How far away the bouncy wickets of Perth and Brisbane must seem for these clueless Australians. The "Un-Australian" saying is pure arrogance, if you're not good enough you're not good enough, no matter where you come from. Where are you now Bill Lawry? Maybe if you were in the commentary box telling us all how good the Aussies are they'd feel better about themselves?

Posted by JustIPL on (March 5, 2013, 23:06 GMT)

Message is clear for aussies to play three spinners like India and reduce their reliance on fast bowling on these dead pitches. If India don't play so many spinners then aussie batting will look good automatically as Ishant/Kumar are not capable of taking ten wickets nor Ashwin can provide these results alone without supporting spinners. Playing Lyon alone did not work despite he took some stunning wickets. Max and X both gradually came into rhythm which is also a sign of spin duo success that aussie wanted to see. I am keen to see what experiment aussies do next test but they should safeguard against losing to many tests. Anyway, good practice for Aussies keeping in view the current status of Indian team.

Posted by Matth on (March 5, 2013, 22:33 GMT)

True there is a mismatch in skills in these conditions = no contest. Just like in Australia last summer. Maybe India and Australia need to play in nuetral territory to have a contest?

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 22:03 GMT)

Unless the Asutralian selectors are focusing on the Ashes and we are seeing the longest and most subtle application of the rope-a-dope strategy in cricketing history, the selectors are floundering as much as the players.

I am concerned that Australia have been indulging themselves in some entitlement behaviour, due to their achievements of a few years ago and their still-strong home record against sides that don't travel well. Clarke and Co have stated publicly recently the aim is for the Aussie team to be No 1 in all 3 formats of the game. Problem is they think they will achieve it by playing the same attacking cricket that worked when they had Warne, McGrath, Gilly, Ponting & Hussey playing. Trying to win that way with a less talented squad won't work. Switch to Plan B, play tough hour by hour, session by session cricket that is appropriate to the CONDITIONS, the state of the match and the opposition. Sounds easy, but it's what they seem incapable of doing at the moment.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 21:57 GMT)

Australia need to drop Cowan. Move Watson back to open.Kawaja comes in at three.Clarke next.Phil Hughes is made for #5.

Posted by NairUSA on (March 5, 2013, 21:19 GMT)

Morale boosting victory! If we can get the series wrapped up, it will be a great foundation from where recovery can begin. The pitches in the remaining test matches need to cater to India's strengths. Many in this forum argue that these are hollow victories as India is playing in familiar territory and therefore should prepare neutral pitches. This logic is completely unfounded as the need of the hour is to get the Indian team back to winning ways. As for planning for SA goes, selectors should maintain the current 'performing' players like Kohli, Ashwin, Jadeja, Bhuvaneswar, Pujara etc. In addition, BCCI should onboard 2 or 3 promising seamers into the extended Indian team and provide them with top notch training facilities and on pitches at different altitudes. SA geography is very much varied and they do have stadiums at high altitudes, like Wanderers.

Posted by WonkyBail on (March 5, 2013, 20:40 GMT)

Two very one sided wins thus far, Australia's lack of spin bolwers/ability to play spin bowling is evident and surely they must have known of these weaknesses, these series are planned years in advance. Difficult to see Aus coming back in this series which is a real bonus to India as no-one in India is interested/has the time to watch this outdated format of the game. Roll on the T20/ODI's which apparently is the real test of skill (multiple citations December 2012), or have the goal posts moved again. Pujara looks excellent but I reserve judgement till he has a few more tests/overseas success, the comparisons to Bradman at this stage are a tad previous. All in all well done India.

Posted by hhillbumper on (March 5, 2013, 20:36 GMT)

so what happens the next time they play outisde of india? Also if they are so good how come England served them up?

Posted by anita1_cric on (March 5, 2013, 20:19 GMT)

Aussie coach needs to be fired .....he has no clue abt the team and pitches. See how Border was suggesting nice things..... since the ball can act weird in cccraapp pitches ...go out in full blow ...the only way u are out is caught by throing ur bat........INDIAN DID NOT WIN ....AUSSIE GAVE it

Posted by remnant on (March 5, 2013, 20:04 GMT)

Jaffer should replace Sehwag for the SA tour as he is techincally sounder than him, and is atleast epxerienced in foreign conditions. Playing Sehwag will only accelerate his decline which appears irreversible.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 19:33 GMT)

Donot understand why Usman khwaja is ignored

Posted by wablo55 on (March 5, 2013, 19:25 GMT)

Well done Team India, and nice article Sharda. Couple of points though: firstly, I would argue that Jadeja isn't too radical a brand of fifth bowler, given the likes of Sehwag, Sachin and even Raina chipping in with a bit of fifth-bowler-tweak in the last few years. Also, I'd say B Kumar is a touch different to his erstwhile namesake in that he does have about 5-10kph of pace on him, which is certainly a noteworthy asset. Still, it is certainly true that his potential role in any tour to England would be largely similar to that of P Kumar. As an India fan it's always nice to see a thumping victory but in light of what happened on the last away tours, I fear that too much of a hubristic response would threaten to paper-over cracks that are still deeply evident. The issue of fast bowling - both facing it and bowling it - remains, as does the issue of a settled opening partnership. Hopefully it will be a clean sweep; but let it bring the desire to improve, not age-old complacency.

Posted by DeckChairand6pack on (March 5, 2013, 19:18 GMT)

Congratulations to India and it's fans and to Dhoni on his record of most test wins. I just wonder how many test losses he has presided over and how this compares in India's all time list. He's witnessed a good few pastings. For now, you guys are certainly teaching the once mighty Australia a few cricket lessons.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (March 5, 2013, 19:06 GMT)

I just have a feeling that Australia took this series too lightly and did not respect their opponents. They saw the 1-2 result for England, decided that the Indian spinners were not a serious threat and over-rated the ability of their own pace attack to do the job. Part of the problem is in the Australian psyche: they just cannot accept that Swann and Panesar are top-class spinners (they have been constantly derided by Australian fans as not Test class) and felt that their own spinners were as good and probably better. They gave themselves inadequate preparation and have been panicking over selection. In contrast, the Indians were hurting badly, both for the defeat in Australia and the defeat to England. They have learnt their lessons and come out wanting to let their cricket do the talking rather than make bold predictions. And they know how to stengthen their side further for the 3rd Test, which bodes ill for Australia's attempts to stem the tide in this series.

Posted by Nampally on (March 5, 2013, 18:42 GMT)

Firstly, Congrats to India on their magnificient win.India showed emphatically their skills on the spinning surfaces both in batting & bowling. Aussies folded up like 9 pins with no contest at alol. This was least expected of them. The Aussies always fought to the last man & always played with a motto of "Never-say-Die"!. But what happened to that determined side which was so dominant under Ponting in 90's & early 2000? It is just a shadow of itself under Clarke. It is true that both Clarke & Watson with injuries are unable to bowl. But there are 9 other guys who don't seem to have guts to stand up & show the true Green Bag pride. At this stage, it makes more sense to bring Ponting & Hussey out of their retirement to show others the basics of buckling down & fighting it out. Unfortunately India was in a similar position on Australian wkts. few months back. The new India has batsmen like Pujara & Vijay + bowlers like B.Kumar & Jadeja to get the job done. Perhaps OZ need such Stars too!

Posted by mumbaiguy79 on (March 5, 2013, 18:28 GMT)

Isn't it too early to say for sure that M Vijay or B Kumar or for that matter R Jadeja are dependable. We will know once they get sorted out by Dale Steyn and Co. in SA. If they come good, no one would be more happy than me.

Posted by ChuckyDoll on (March 5, 2013, 18:28 GMT)

Does this series mean that we should now not expect to win anything outside India ? Is the attitude official now "so what if we lose outside. Look at them, Aussies, they can't win outside Aus so we are as good as them".

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 18:10 GMT)

This Australian team is worse than the West Indies and New Zealand who put up better performances in India. As for India they have a long way to go before they can be considered competitive in overseas condition. With hindsight had India picked this eleven against England there was every chance they would have won or at least drawn that series. Getting rid of Gambhir was a start, now its time to get shot of Sehwag, and Harbajan.

Posted by Angry_Bowler on (March 5, 2013, 18:03 GMT)

Some people, who have no idea what they say or comment, were criticising the selectors and Dhoni in particular about the inclusion of Jadeja, who bowled, perhaps the best bastmen in the world and certainly the best in the current Aus team the captain, Clarke twice in this test and took his wicket in the 1st test as well. As Ugra said, if Jadeja can improve his batting he will be one of the best alrounders in the team India.

Posted by EverybodylovesSachin on (March 5, 2013, 17:48 GMT)

Rags57 Australia's only chance now to win in Mohali..Delhi they cannot win..Delhi is for spinners only..I doubt they even make 200 plus in an inning.

Posted by phunny_game on (March 5, 2013, 17:45 GMT)

@cricketmaan : yes it was a better wicket because it had something for the fast bowlers at the start... The match ended quickly because of horrendous batting by indian lower order and Aussie incompetency against spin...!!!

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 17:26 GMT)

I am happy to see India beating Australoa like a team which has just started playing cricket. I am sure every Indian Cricket fan will cherish this winning moment and the memories of their losing against England and Australia in their away series will soon fade away. I am afraid that, Indian Cricket Board being so influential in Cricket world, they (BCCI) might enforce upon ICC to make it mandatory for all Cricket playing nations to play only in India for all home and away series. The way they are going against DRS against the will of ICC and other nations, it is always possible as they want every outcome of any match played by India is the winning ONLY.

Posted by nyc_missile on (March 5, 2013, 17:16 GMT)

All this talk of revenge is non-sense.For that,we needed to have at least beaten Eng at home and as Sharda nails it,its when you return the compliment in the place you got thrashed 4-0 that you could call it a pay back.Till then its tigers at home,lambs abroad all over again.Eng undid the former cliche big time too,till this series happened.I admire one thing in Dhoni: his equipoise amidst horrible thrashings and big wins;even though being sphinx like when you're getting manhandled does send out wrong messages to opposition and fans.Let Dhoni win in SA and then in Eng,Oz later ..we can then even mention the word revenge.Till then its consolidation time for the team!

Posted by CricketMaan on (March 5, 2013, 17:09 GMT)

So Hyd is a better pitch compared to Chennai which at least let the game go to Day 5. What a bias from writers and fans!!

Posted by m812 on (March 5, 2013, 16:53 GMT)

I have never seen a player more frustrating and non performing in each and every match for last 3 years other than Harbhajan singh. Hardly any wickets taken in last 3 years ( to be precise since Kumble retired) and hardly any contribution to team. Even Raina and Manoj Tiwary spin the ball more than Harbhajan Singh over last 3 years.- Zero wickets with the ball and Zero runs with the bat! Another feather in his cap/turban! And our selectors still keep selecting him. Better spinners like Iqball Abdullah, Harmeet, Rasool too name a few are kep out of team to accommodate this dart thrower in team Our win ratio would have been higher if he was not in team

Posted by santhoo24 on (March 5, 2013, 16:40 GMT)

The whole 8-0 losses in Eng and Aus got me thinking, will we ever, I mean ever, forget those losses? Even if we travel there, and by some divine intervention, win a 4 match series say 4-0 or 3-1 or 2-0, everyone will talk the same trash - we lost a series 4-0 the last time we played. Can't we for the moment, just cherish the victory, and plan ahead for the next trip we make to Aus or Eng rather than kill ourselves for some losses at the expense of joy we have winning NOW?

Posted by InsideHedge on (March 5, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

@Sanket Jogaikar: Remember, it's not ours to lose since Oz is the current holder. If they win the next two Tests, they retain it....but I hear ya and agree with your analysis.

I'll go further, SRT should be batting at #5 or even #6 where he's likely to see the 2nd new ball but he's so stubborn and holds onto the #4 spot as if it's his personal property. Virat Kohli should be batting at #4 at the very least, he's also good enough to be at #3 and dare I say it, Pujara could open, he pretty much does so with at least one of our openers regularly failing. If Pujara opens, it opens up a further spot for one of MTiwary/ARahane.

Posted by rocknrola on (March 5, 2013, 15:59 GMT)

India in Australia 0-4. May be now in India 4-0. I think if same teams play in Aus now India may loose 0-4 to Aus. This may repeat until India learn to play swing and Aus learn to play spin.

Posted by Ramski1 on (March 5, 2013, 15:58 GMT)

Congrats to India on their demolition of Australia, a job well done. But lets hope everyone keeps their feet on the ground and appreciates that this Australian side is extremely poor. They have 1 test class batsmen in Clarke and 1 Test class bowler in Pattinson. They have no spinner which is essential in India and they have no experience following the retirements of Ponting + Hussey.

There are promising signs with Vijay, Pujara and Kumar contributing to the win. If the next real test for India is England away in 2014 then I would like to see Kumar sent over to England for a spell of county cricket this summer. I would also look to send fringe players like Raina, R Sharma, Rahane, over to play county cricket. These are players who have the ability to perform overseas but at present the failure of the BCCI to look at the bigger picture prevents this from happening.

Come on India, build from this and make the focus winning outside of India.

Posted by samincolumbia on (March 5, 2013, 15:58 GMT)

Amazing Stat for Harbhajan - Zero wickets with the ball and Zero runs with the bat! Another feather in his cap/turban!! Those records keep piling up for him.

Posted by InsideHedge on (March 5, 2013, 15:57 GMT)

I forgot to bid farewell to Zaheer Khan too earlier, he's another one who's deceiving himself into thinking he's got another 3-4 years in him, the man can't last the duration of a day's play, never mind YEARS.

Did the business in the CWC 2011 and therefore will always have a special place in our hearts, esp after the disappointment of the 2003 Final, along with lion-hearted performances in many Tests. Thanks Zak and farewell. Please turn the lights off as you leave.

Posted by InsideHedge on (March 5, 2013, 15:54 GMT)

Sharda, with all die respect, Bhuvneshwar is not a like-for-like replacement for PraveenK.

(1) Bhuv has a cool head on his shoulders (2) He seams the ball off the wicket BOTH ways, a magnificent attribute whereas PraveenK is mainly an in-swing bowler with a poor outswinger (3) In the Chennai Test, Bhuv batted longer (in time) than PraveenK has probably batted in his entire career, pls see #1 and finally.

Posted by InsideHedge on (March 5, 2013, 15:50 GMT)

Does Ishant's momentous performance - who can forget that delivery to dismiss Watson, down the leg side, swinging, unplayable with an unexpected kick that left Watto helpless - yes, what was I saying? Oh yeah, does Ishant's gargantuan 1-fer mean he'll get another 46 Tests? Answers on a postcard, please.

Posted by InsideHedge on (March 5, 2013, 15:48 GMT)

Typical of Gambhir to rain on an outstanding victory. Fortunately, he was one of the few who was running his mouth during our woeful performances in Oz, you also had Sehwag publicly questioning the skipper.

Let's take this opportunity to bid farewell and thanks to Sehwag and Bhajji.

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (March 5, 2013, 15:38 GMT)

Lol Gambhir. First what happened to our revenge for Eng series? Do we have to wait for 4 more years for Eng to come India? But then you wont be around i guess.

Posted by ILaughAtThee on (March 5, 2013, 15:38 GMT)

Whoa! Sharda Ugra needs to give a little break to her extreme pessimistic views on Indian cricket. The teams strengths and weaknesses are no hidden facts. Taking every opportunity to simply gloat over team weaknesses is just milking it for page views. It is a long road ahead in terms of team building. Just enjoy the moment and give credit where it's due!

If this series is a no-contest, so were India's tours abroad. Nobody complained! Here's hoping the team build on skills and experience to put up better show anywhere, everywhere!

Posted by Dr.Vindaloo on (March 5, 2013, 15:37 GMT)

Gambhir just goes lower and lower in my estimation. He came out with the same revenge drivel ahead of the England tour and it came back to bite him. It's no surprise that he is the Indian player that opposing teams most like to get stuck into. All mouth and no ticker.

Posted by gsingh7 on (March 5, 2013, 15:36 GMT)

so true. aus lack all the skills needed to play in india. i wud be amazed if they win any match on this tour. cant bat cant bowl , what good are u australia??

Posted by inswing on (March 5, 2013, 15:34 GMT)

The Aus team is better than what these numbers show, and they will come back and put up a fight. Unlike India who refused to make _any_ changes in spite of 0-4 drubbing in Eng and another 0-4 in Aus, they will make changes. Indian weaknesses should not be glossed over, especially Sehwag form in the opening and the usual ineffectiveness of Ishanth and Harbhajan. These three need to go, but probably won't because India won.

Posted by citizenkc on (March 5, 2013, 15:33 GMT)

Well played, India. A richly deserved victory, one which was forged by team effort, even though there were obviously notable individual contributions. Ugra is right: true revenge would be winning in Australia. Anyway, let's forget all this childish talk about revenge and focus on the fundamentals and on the future. We have a young team that can go downhill rapidly unless we plan ahead. The first step: drop Sehwag and Harbhajan. No one will deny that the time has come. Harbhajan couldn't perform on a friendly track. Sehwag has consistently failed for a while now. Ishant is really not a quality bowler. So, 3 changes for Mohali. Ohja for Harbhajan; Dhawan or Rahane for Sehwag; and I'm not sure who for Ishant. We have 2 tests to try out folks before we take a dip in the boiling cauldron of Philander, Steyn, and Morkel. Oh, and let's not forget. Sachin is probably not going to SA. We can move Kohli to number 4, but then we need a replacement for him.

Posted by Mushtanda on (March 5, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

So now Ugra is saying it was a mis-match of skills now that she can't blame the pitch any longer. The "dust-bowl" that according to Ugra India were gonna dish out, did a lot more on the afternoon of the 3rd day, when india collapsed, than on the morning of Day 4.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:59 GMT)

as a die hard aussie fan for the last 18 years, let me state this publicly this is the worst OZ team in the last 30 years, even the team under Kim hughes was way better than this one. When has one seen a OZ team where the top 4 averages less than 40. David warner by no means was elevated as a test batsmen when his technicque is very poor and cannot play the three s(Spin, Seem and swing). he trhives on flat pitches. Watson has worked hard on his batting but still has few infirmities in his technique. Hughes inspite of his failures and techncial limitations keeps getting chances to turn out in whites because he his close frind happens to be the captain and a selector himself.What mistake did Cosgrove, Fergusson, Doolan and pomersbach do. why is chris rogers never considered inspite of his impressive shiled average. why is khwaja never given the same run as Hughes or warner. there is certainly a bias towards NSW players and in this deal the OZ rebuilding gets hampered.

Posted by bonaku on (March 5, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

It should not be about revenge.It should be more about winning and keeping to good... if they really what give it back. They should go back where they lost and win over there. It is only good and not great to win in home conditions, especially when the opposition is new to the conditions. It is better to keep it simple and think about improving their skills instead of taking about revenge and all.

Posted by Harlequin. on (March 5, 2013, 14:57 GMT)

Why is it the indian team always talks of 'revenge'? Maybe they should stop looking at what has been, and start focusing a bit more on what could be...

Posted by Temuzin on (March 5, 2013, 14:49 GMT)

I think Jadeja warrants his place as second spinner and not the fifth bowler of Gangully type. His bowling has improved so much that it borders on unbelievable. The ball which he got Clarke out was a gem. I am more surprised at his evolution as a front line spinner because I still believe his skills as a batsman is far superior than his bowling. With time he will become more confident and his batting will prosper. It is high time he should start putting price on his wicket and should not get out trying to hit bowlers out of the park.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

Jadeja's bowling os good enough to warrant a place as the no 2 spinner. He is not the fifth bowler, but the second one. But his batting is not like a no 6.

Posted by vaidyar on (March 5, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

"Just like India believe Chennai and Hyderabad were victories of more skill over less skill and more determination over less, so indeed were Adelaide and Perth. Ideally, real vengeance means travelling back to Adelaide and Perth and returning the favours of 2012. Talk of payback at the moment remains mere advertising." Well said! I'll stick my neck out here and say that India and Australia are probably at the same level. Can do really well in favourable conditions against teams that are not as good as them. Any sign of a challenge and they'll capitulate. This is how they played in Ahmedabad and once Eng found their mojo they didn't even stay around for a fight.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:23 GMT)

Australia is a big team. Will definitely come back.

Posted by Tom_Bowler on (March 5, 2013, 14:22 GMT)

I used to rate Gambhir as a batsman but his media persona suggests there's more than a touch of the halfwit about him. If he spent less time wittering on about revenge or pouting over playing on green tops that appeared only in his fevered imagination and instead took his own advice to remember Perth and Adelaide to say nothing of Lords, Trent Bridge, Edgbaston and The Oval he might still be playing international cricket. Braveheart indeed.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:13 GMT)

I don't for a second think that India will lose this Border Gavaskar Trophy from hereon.But we should not forget the drubbing we received back in Aus and Eng. So, I would suggest not to get complacent as we still don't have a decent 2nd fast bowler when we tour SA later this year. Also, with Murali's sine wave form, his worst is just around the corner. We need a strong Opening pair too as a deterrent to the phenomenal fast bowling outside the sub-continent. At no. 3, Pujara has definitely earned his spot for a while until he can prove his worth on fast pitches. Also, we need to start looking for Sachin Tendulkar's replacement as it only more or less a year before he calls it a day in Tests too. And no matter what Dhoni says, Bhajji has lost his midas touch. He needs playing some domestic cricket and getting back in the groove. Neverthelss, I would just like to enjoy this short termed glory and remember that future is around the corner, not too far, laughing at our celebrations.

Posted by TheGamerX on (March 5, 2013, 14:11 GMT)

Agreed, India lack the set of skills that are necessary in fast bouncy tracks a la Aus, SA and Eng. But it is unfair to downplay the current victories attributing everything to the lack of skill from the opposition Aus batsman.

Posted by   on (March 5, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

Hard to believe Gambhir's tweet about revenge. Does Gambhir still think in those terms? I thought being dropped would help in clearing the mind, but it appears that has still not happened, unfortunate. The Gambhir that had made an impact was ready to accept his shortcomings and work on them, and not talk about revenge.

Posted by balajeev on (March 5, 2013, 14:05 GMT)

Its easy to fathom why Gambhir is out of the team. He sounds more like a bollywood hero than a cricketer. Shouldn't the priority be on winning rather than gaining revenge? Being carried away by emotions while playing clouds the brain.

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