Australia in India 2012-13

Watson leaves tour after Australia axe four

Brydon Coverdale

March 11, 2013

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Composite photo of the four Australia players who were sacked for the Mohali Test, March 11, 2013
An already struggling Australia will be further weakened in Mohali, minus Watson, Johnson, Khawaja and Pattinson © ESPNcricinfo Ltd
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Australia's tour of India went into crisis mode on Monday with the team management axeing four players, including vice-captain Shane Watson, from the third Test in Mohali for ignoring team orders following the defeat in Hyderabad. The other players are James Pattinson, Mitchell Johnson and Usman Khawaja. Hours after that announcement by the coach Mickey Arthur came news that Watson was heading home, though Cricket Australia insisted it was connected with the birth of his first child.

The baby was due shortly after the end of the Indian tour and Watson had already been granted leave to fly home early if required. A Cricket Australia spokesman said that process had been "accelerated" due to a change at home and that it was yet to be confirmed whether Watson would return to the tour ahead of the fourth Test, which starts in Delhi on Friday next week.

The four players were told by Arthur of the unprecedented decision on Monday morning. After the Hyderabad loss, inside three and a half days, Arthur asked every member of the squad to let him know three points on how their individual performances and those of the team could be improved.

The players were informed of the task on Tuesday night and were asked to ensure it was done by Saturday evening. Every other player completed the requirements, either by emailing or texting Arthur their points or by slipping a note under his door. However, as of Monday morning the four players had neglected to comply. Arthur, captain Michael Clarke and team manager Gavin Dovey met and discussed how to handle the situation and decided that it needed to be a "line-in-the-sand moment".

"After Hyderabad the whole team was really hurting, we were discussing ways of getting back into the series," Arthur said. "We were particularly aware of where we were as a team and how we were going to get back. I asked the players at the end of the game to give me an individual presentation. I wanted three points from each of them technically, mentally and team as to how we were going to get back over the next couple of games, how we were going to get ourselves back into the series.

"Unfortunately four players didn't comply with that. We pride ourselves on attitude. We have given the players a huge amount of latitude to get culture and attitude right. We believe that those behaviours with what we want to do with this team, how we want to take this team to be the best in the world, teams that are the best in the world have best attitudes and best behaviour patterns and a good, hard, ruthless culture. I believe those four players unfortunately did not meet my requirements so those four are not available for selection for this Test match.

"That's a line-in-the-sand moment. We have given these guys absolute clarity. We have given this team a huge amount of time to buy in with what we want to do for the Australian cricket team. We have given a vision to these guys that is spelt out. We've given an expectation that is spelt out and although this incident might seem very small in isolation this is a line-in-the-sand moment for us as a unit in our quest to become the best in the world.

Australia's Test squad

  • Available players: Michael Clarke (capt), David Warner, Ed Cowan, Phillip Hughes, Moises Henriques, Glenn Maxwell, Steven Smith, Peter Siddle, Mitchell Starc, Xavier Doherty, Nathan Lyon, Brad Haddin (wk)
  • Doubtful: Matthew Wade (wk)
  • Out: Shane Watson, James Pattinson, Mitchell Johnson, Usman Khawaja

"I think the best thing that these three days off have given me is reflection time, to reflect on how well have I been going in my job, like I expect everyone else to do when you're 2-0 down in the series. Myself and Pup came to the conclusion that we have been so focused on winning cricket games that maybe some people have been cutting corners. Perhaps there have been some soft options taken.

"We decided that we needed to really get that in line."

One of the most surprising aspects of the decision is that it was not necessarily related to previous indiscretions by the players involved. Although there have been ongoing questions about Khawaja's attitude, Arthur said Watson, as one of the senior members of the side, was usually extremely professional with his preparation. But on this occasion, given the nature of the loss in Hyderabad, the team management was not prepared to accept such laxity.

"I have never ever doubted, not for one moment, the drive of Shane Watson," Arthur said. "Not for one moment. Shane Watson prepares well. He's very professional and he goes about his business in a very professional way. I've not ever been in a position to doubt Shane Watson the person or Shane Watson the cricketer. Usman Khawaja is different. This will be the catalyst I think for Usman Khawaja to realise we're pretty serious in the Australian cricket team.

"It's extremely tough to sit here and make that decision. I wish it wasn't the vice-captain, I wish it wasn't Shane Watson and Mitchell Johnson, they are leaders within the team and are very professional with the way they go about their business. But this was a moment where we had to make a statement irrespective of who the players were.

"I wanted to make 100% sure that it wasn't stuck in the outbox and under the door, and it wasn't. Shane was going to talk to me today about it, as was James Pattinson apparently. Mitchell and Usman forgot about it. But I wanted it by Saturday night. As severe as a consequence it is, if we remove the names, it sends a proper statement of what we want to do with this cricket team.

 
 
"That's a line-in-the-sand moment. We have given these guys absolute clarity. We have given this team a huge amount of time to buy in with what we want to do for the Australian cricket team"
 

"They could do it in any way. It could be in writing and putting something on email, it could have been sending an SMS followed up by an email. I wanted to make sure the players went back and reflected and looked themselves in the mirror and said 'this is what I want to do to take this team forward. This is how I want to change this series and this is my positive contribution to the attitudes that we want to create in this cricket team'.

"I wanted three things - a lot of guys came to my room and did a presentation, a few guys have written fantastic emails, some guys put notes under my door, it was their preference. As a leadership group, myself, Michael Clarke and Gavin Dovey made these decisions together. We as leaders feel we need to project a united front and we need to be ruthless if we want to achieve our objectives."

The players were informed of the decisions individually on Monday morning before the news was broken to the rest of the playing group prior to training. Arthur said it was a very difficult decision.

"They are absolutely gutted, as I was having to deliver a message like that," he said. "We were all gutted by it, but this is the expectation if you want to play cricket for Australia."

The decision leaves Australia with only 13 players available for the third Test, which starts on Thursday. However, Matthew Wade may yet be ruled out due to injury, which would leave only 12 available when Brad Haddin joins the group. The unavailability of the quartet is only for the Mohali Test; they will again be considered for selection for the fourth and final Test in Delhi.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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Posted by RejV on (March 14, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

The dropping of 4 players recently is a knee-jerk reaction from Mickey and Micheal Clarke since they didnt receive the 'progress cards' - suppose it had been Siddle and Starc in place of Watson and Khwaja, would this action (of suspending players) have still been taken while they were on tour? Australia would then never have taken such a risk of suspending players while they were on tour - at the max, they would have suspended the 4 when they reached back in Aus!! Ridiculous enough anyway!!

Posted by Chris_P on (March 13, 2013, 22:36 GMT)

@ JG2704 . Not sure why my response wasn't posted as answered your points but I'll try this again. The requirements expected from cricketers vary with management style. This is more than the feedback all team members were asked to do. There was an interesting read from Robert Craddock who is probably our most senior cricket writer down here & closer to the Australian team workings than probably most other writers. He outlined the many incidents occurring, the undermining, the non team efforts, placing them above others & this was starting to affect other players. Khawaja, for example, has always been viewed as a talented but lazy trainer, someone who easily follow some of the senior players' slackness. He, more than anyone should have been almost the first to respond. Watson, in his statement on returning to Australia used "I" 12 times without once referring to the "team". Having been a huge supporter of him, this sort of thing worries me. Read Craddock's articles for perspective.

Posted by   on (March 13, 2013, 14:26 GMT)

Well done Aus team management. As hard as it is for the players concerned, discipline is a primary requirement for success as a team.

Posted by delboy on (March 13, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

Smart move by coach and skipper. Get players to take the responsibility for lack of direction...What if these players all produced a single line presentation saying change the coach? They would then be accused of being disruptive. Watson and co. Are forced into a no win position while Arthur and Clarke have other means of obtaining the information the desire. All international matches are recorded The management can request footage for analyses. Just tell the players the truth. 'A smokescreen is needed and you are the sacrificial lambs'

Posted by capros on (March 13, 2013, 7:50 GMT)

It amazes me that Australia cannot produce a person that is capable of coaching our national side, i believe that pride should head the list of requirements to be named coach and you certainly can't show that if you come from another country, the present players have proven that they can play the game however with the constant bickering from the "people in the driving seat" and the questions raised from the past players regarding who should be dropped etc the players are certainly not thinking of cricket when they go out to bat or bowl. Get it sorted cricket Australia or we will end up the laughing stock of the world of cricket

Posted by Sunil_Batra on (March 13, 2013, 1:59 GMT)

Still fuming that Koala Khawaja misses another chance, the guy hasn't played a single match on tour but is made the scapegoat along with Johnson, Patts and Watson. Lets move on and look forward to tomorrow's game. And i look forward to seeing both Khawaja and Pattinson playing in the 4th test.

Posted by Reggaecricket on (March 13, 2013, 1:18 GMT)

Indians are not Australians - Greg Chapell was too late to learn this. Michey Arthur should learn that Australians are not South Africans. He is supposed to be the one with ideas how to beat the opposition, if he looks to the tram, then he is not doing his job right.

Posted by heathrf1974 on (March 12, 2013, 22:55 GMT)

People making comments about poor captaincy and coaching need to realise that some players have been slack with their health, late for teams meetings and sleeping in for quite a period of time. They were left out of the third test due to a lack of professionalism. It was the right call.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 20:04 GMT)

"Four out for not doing their homework" should not allow India into complacency. Dhoni & co., should continue their homework at Mohali & Delhi to make it 4-0.

Posted by Tyrone_Persaud on (March 12, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

Management "Manage", Caoches "Coach" & Players "Play"! Mickey Arthur is the Head Coach & is suppose to be able to motivate & put his players in the best position to do well. Having lost the first two tests by 7 wickets & and inning, the answer is simple - Batting. However, getting India out for lower scores will surely help. The bottom line is, you must be able to match the play & intensity of your opponent in order to put yourself in a position to win. David Warner & Phil Hughes are not Test Players. Michael Clarke is getting exactly what he wanted for not having Simon Katich playing for Australia, THE MOST PROLIFIC TEST BATSMAN IN THE PRECEDING TWO YEARS OF CLARKE'S APPOINTMENT AS CAPTAIN - talking about what it takes to play for Australia. Clarke failed as a leader from inception when he couldn't have a meeting with Katich to sort out their differences for the best interest of Team Australia. Arthur should be fired!!! National Team is for Nationals!!

Posted by wakaPAK on (March 12, 2013, 15:46 GMT)

Welcome to Australian Junior High... Khwaja was not even in the team! The coach took whatever life was left in the series. It is so sad when all anticipation and hard work of players is deleted like this...Was it " I want to be remembered as the coach who didnt compromise on 'discipline' or whatever " or was it "we are losing anyways. so we might as well lose without our best players so we could later on claim that we were without our best players"???

Posted by JustIPL on (March 12, 2013, 15:39 GMT)

Answers to questions that Mr. Arthur asked are plain and simple and now such soul searching or sophisticated presentation is required. It is is obvious that he depended fastmen while the opponent fielded them just as a formality. It is done at a time when top ranking teams are aiming at whitewashing India in India. This has totally disappointed the aussie fans. English recipe for success was totally denied and now the main strikers in Johnson/Patto are out. Watson is no Ponting and should have been allowed to bowl. Arthur did not seem to be interested in winning and just experimenting. Hopefully, he will learn from mistakes and will be able to plan against the Indian batsmen who have notable performances by using three spinners. Good thing is that he increased number of spinners by one in each test so it should be three for third test. Batsmen will feel confident that way and perform despite that they have struggled so far against a battery of spinners that does not include Ojha.

Posted by stowa on (March 12, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

For a minute there i thought this was the West Indies team, how the mighty have fallen. Outplayed in every department, the Aussie team just isn't that good and Indian conditions are tough. This could have been handled a whole lot better, good luck for next, test only time will tell if this has a positive effect.

Posted by smudgeon on (March 12, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

@Daniel van der Merwe - you might be on to something there, buddy: when Wade had a bowl earlier this summer, he looked pretty damn good, actually :P

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (March 12, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

Would they do the same(axe the players) if this were Ashes? Mostly not. The coach would have given some sort of notification just the day before the deadline. Did he take such steps before handing out this harsh punishment? Or Was he just waiting for them to ignore the deadline?. Sometimes coaches should also come out of their zone and work with players.

Posted by JG2704 on (March 12, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

@Chris_P on (March 11, 2013, 20:29 GMT) I do understand the thing about contracts but to me (and it seems most others) this is beyond what should be required/expected of the players. This is the sort of thing which should be voluntary and not compulsory like a suggestion box type thing.

What if certain players thought that some of the captaincy or selection decisions were wrong ? Should the players then criticise those aspects and risk being dropped etc for that or should they just have written down stuff they thought Clarke and Arthur wanted to hear , regardless of whether they believed it was right or wrong?

Mitch and Waj could not have impacted on the teams performances anyway if they were not playing. Sorry but to me Clarke (who I have always lauded on these boards as such a fine leader/player) is starting to undo all his good work

Posted by KrishnaRao on (March 12, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

Are these players high school students on long distance learning? Where is the importance of personal interaction. It's like sending e-mails or SMSs to your family members living under the same roof. There have some crazy selections of late; Why had Brad Haddin been ignored inspite of the fact that he is a better batsman than Wade as well better keeper? Is it a crime to attend a sick daughter (no family values in my adopted country? I do not think so). Why was Stephen O'Keefe from NSW (home state of Clarke) not selected for India Tour. He is a very good spinner alrounder (much better than Max and Smith) and the best performing spinner in Australian first class cricket.

Clarke had been an excellent captain tactically (and leading by example performance wise). But his social skills and selectorial skills are doubtful at the moment.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 7:02 GMT)

Now that is called Board Power , both India and Pakistan must learn from it.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 6:52 GMT)

Bad workmen blame their tools.... if Arthur has no ideas, then axe him - what a joke.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 6:40 GMT)

If Mickey Arthur continues as coach, there wont be any players left...then what???

Posted by Dhar40 on (March 12, 2013, 6:31 GMT)

I advise India's management to have a similar task? but with a different question. What are we going to do to grind Oz into the ground in the way they have done some many times over the last 100 plus years of test cricket. Dhoni and his men must go for the jugular! Can an Indian team actually do that?

Posted by swansong86 on (March 12, 2013, 5:40 GMT)

Mit Chowdhury, no one said they needed a powerpoint deck - you've listed 4 things in the first sentence of your post that they need to improve on. ;-)

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 5:37 GMT)

I guess the Australian team Management has taken the book "ART of WAR" written Sun Tzu.... pretty seriously...... They themselves are not in a state of mind where they can implement these stuffs. As for now its a 50-50 decision..... It can either make or break the team....

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 5:23 GMT)

This is crazy, why were the Cap and Vice Cap not tasked to get the responses. No one was told of the consequences. I am surprised that CA is backing the coach, is this the way to manage a team ? This is not a school where a missed assignment gets an F and an automatic dismissal from the class... If this were a sub continent team, they would have been the laughing stock of cricket but this is CA, how can they stoop to such low levels of team managemnt...

Posted by Tumbarumbar on (March 12, 2013, 5:01 GMT)

The problem with writing an analysis of your own performance and the teams' performance and giving it to the captain and coach, both of whom double as selectors, must be fairly obvious and it is notable that two players who were outside of the team 'forgot' to submit their points of view. In any case what does the coach do while the players are out on the field. Isn't he meant to work out what's wrong and fix it? Disciplining players for not doing his job is bizarre beyond all meaning.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 4:57 GMT)

The problems with the Australian cricket team are made entirely obvious by this debacle, with full backing of Cricket Australia, Michael Clarke, Mickey Arthur and the selectors have shown complete unwillingness to admit any wrongdoing and are now in blame mode.

Why aren't we hearing about all the changes they're planning to make based on form? Why aren't we hearing them talking about how having Henriques, Doherty and Maxwell as our 3,4 & 5 bowlers got us thrashed?

The facts are obvious: CA, Pup, Mickey Arthur and the selectors have all got to answer for the results we're getting in India. And instead they blame the boys.

They should be thinking about perhaps playing four good bowlers and six good batsmen, but I guess the people who know this aren't good with powerpoint.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 4:53 GMT)

If a player can find out all the aspects of failures, and improve by themselves, what is the role of a coach in the team.

Posted by bipulkumar on (March 12, 2013, 4:34 GMT)

In this whole melee, the last thing Indian team would do is to sit back and relax. I am sure whoever forms Australian XI for next test will perform far better and Indians must maintain their focus.

Posted by Meety on (March 12, 2013, 4:14 GMT)

@Jo Langford "...Only 2-months ago Hussey walked away from cricket because of 'pressure'..." Hussey said (I quote) "I knew I was making the right decision because I knew my heart wasn't 100% in spending that amount of time away from home and being excited about the challenges that are going to come forward. Not very many players get to leave on their own terms, so I'm very fortunate in that respect. "It's not so much a decision about how I'm playing, I still feel like I'm playing well. But it's more to do with everything else around the game, time away from home, the constant travel, the constant training, the constant pressures and stresses involved with international cricket as well, that eventually they take their toll on you" - this is on the back of some difficulties with his new born baby. This is one of the most common reasons for retiring from pro-sport, this has nothing to do with your hate-filled vendetta against Clarke! Hussey would be violently ill before every innings!

Posted by crick50 on (March 12, 2013, 3:51 GMT)

Its very harsh on player part. I feel pity for usman & mitchel "how their individual performances and those of the team could be improved." What they can write when they never got any chance in playing 11. Did Arthur mean improving net practice??? thats may be one of the reason. Arthur must be suspended for not choosing balanced Team.. Mitchel Jonson & had good record against Indians. Huge.. his huge disappointment..

Posted by maddy20 on (March 12, 2013, 3:45 GMT)

I will tell you 3 ways you can improve Mr.Clarke. 1)Play spin better 2)Pick better spinners, instead of bits-and-pieces allrounders! 3)Last but not least stop fiddling with the team. Not all of them may know powerpoint you know! MJ, Pattinson and Khawaja would have ensured atleast a better fight. I can't feel sorry enough for Pattionson. The bloke did everything he could and he still ends up on the sidelines!

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 3:22 GMT)

What did Pattinson, Khwaja and Johnson do ???

Posted by RDLikesCricket on (March 12, 2013, 3:16 GMT)

Well, the last thing to expect when the chips are down for the Aussies. Pattinson bowled ever so well in the first 2, Watson till recently was the best thing for Aus cricket and hez now out. Khawaja was warranting a place in the middle order and hez given the sack... Is this going to take Aus cricket ahead or backwards? Above all, why the severe "punishment" and going public about it. Reprimand them in private and move on gents... Did McGrath, Warne, Ponting, Gilchrist, Langer and co write PPTs OR did they just do their job? Time to get Ricky and Hussey back? :) Good luck Aussies...

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 3:12 GMT)

good decesion....should be implemented in team India.....

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 3:10 GMT)

This is interesting to see how Aussies are making move. For me this is ever important decision and and landmark for not only Australian Cricket, but to whole cricketing fertility. Massage is too clear, "Either perform or don't show your face!" and it should be! I can bet next test match would be in Australian pocket!

The remarkable day of Cricket and for discipline! Salute to Arthur and respect to Australian cricket to set an example!

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 3:08 GMT)

These guys have been suspended because they didn't do something (come up with ideas to improve the team) that the coach is supposed to be doing. Was Mickey Arthur really counting on these ideas to save the series? Some incidents unite teams and some divide them further. Chances are this falls into the latter. I am sure even Bob Simpson - one of the hardest taskmasters - is stunned by this. Such harsh punishments are rare even at the workplace where people are actually being paid to come up with ideas.

Posted by ProdigyA on (March 12, 2013, 2:30 GMT)

I wish the Indian team too had such ruthlessness... ah only a wish...

Posted by challagalla on (March 12, 2013, 1:41 GMT)

The punishment may seem severe for a trivial infringement , yet this was one of many small incidents and I guess a line had to be drawn somewhere. I wish the Indian team mangement had the courage to lower the boom on some of the divas we have here. Sunil Gavaskar did it many years back by dropping Kapil Dev for playing an irresponsible shot. One has to understand the Captain is the team leader and will have to take many harsh decisions in the interests of the team to further the cause of winning. Clarke is a tough guy and he had to do it. Arthur is a coach and his job is to coach. I hope he had nothing to do with this. This should purely be a captains call.

Posted by tizzle on (March 12, 2013, 1:06 GMT)

Good decision. This wasn't about some presentation, it was about an attitude. It goes to show how strict the discipline code in the team is.

The entire exercise shouldn't have taken more than 10 mins for any of these guys. If they had a problem completing it, they could have let the coach know.

Can you imagine if this happened in India? By now, the "pundits" would have commented against the implementation of a strict disciplinary code like this and the politicians would be calling the BCCI to censure the captain and coach. Heck, we can't even get the players to do their fitness drills properly.

Posted by TheBigBoodha on (March 12, 2013, 0:57 GMT)

How surprising, @Joseph Langford. You find fault with only one person, and of course it is Clarke. Is there anything else that you write about? No attempt to address the issues or the roles of the players, coach or selectors. How simple is the world that you live in. And of course when Australia lost only 3 of the 20 tests under Clarke before this series, you gave absolutely no credit to Clarke. Oh, and his 1500 runs at an average of over 100 was because "He is so lucky!" Right, got that too. Under Clarke, Hussey flourished and score more runs than anytime in the last 5 years. Maybe there's a connection there, just as there may well be a connection between Hussey's being in his late 30s and deciding to retire. Maybe Clarke is making him turn 38.

Posted by here2rock on (March 12, 2013, 0:08 GMT)

This is absurd! The coach is paid handsomely and wants the players to do his job. Why does the Australian team need a coach then?

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 0:07 GMT)

so in other words 4 players have been axed for not doing the coach's job?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 23:52 GMT)

@Mit Chowdhury - Sir, you seem to have least knowledge about the psychology that goes through in preparation for games (not just cricket). A presentation is not used only for business solutions. The exercise was clearly meant for players to analyze themselves. And since Mickey is their boss, he wants to ensure that guys have done their work, so that the players at least use their minds and not just walk on the field and come back at the end. It's his duty. I think the message sent out by this act is worth more than winning 3rd test against India. The outcome would be viable in the long run

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (March 11, 2013, 23:50 GMT)

Khwaja and Johnson didn't get a chance to play in the first 2 tests. How do you expect them to complete an assignment on How to improve your game?? Sure, you need discipline in the team, but these are not schoolboys. What next - Arthur and Clarke are going to spank the under-performers ??

Posted by MilroyL.S.A.Don on (March 11, 2013, 23:40 GMT)

Due to lack of management skills and to save their pay check, the AUS team management playing a blame game as an excuse before another defeat in India.

Posted by sportofpain on (March 11, 2013, 23:39 GMT)

@Joseph Langford - I have to agree with you. There seems to be a sinister plot here if one looks at all these players - for me the most surprising thing was mR cricket walking away so suddenly. Something didn't smell quite right - and then you hear the guy saying things in public about his team. They always say "praise in public criticize in private" - that builds harmony. Clarke is looking more and more like a certain Australian coach who tried to impose himself in India - and we know how that turned out.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 23:30 GMT)

This is very poor player management by Mickey Arthur. If you are serious about gathering feedback and you want it to be done frankly and fearlessly, a survey such as this should be returned anonymously, in which case Mickey Arthur and Co shouldn't be aware who has or hasn't completed the task. Then you collate the responses and discuss the points raised at an open team meeting. This on the other hand is the exercise of power by management over players, pure and simple. By Mickey Arthur's criteria, Keith Miller would never have played for Australia. Of the casualties, I couldn't care less about Watson as far as the Test team goes, but the other 3 have plenty to offer. At the midpoint of a series that is still mathematically alive, and with the Ashes not that far off, I have difficulty envisaging a team in greater disarray, though I expect that this isn't the end of this train wreck.

Posted by riprock on (March 11, 2013, 23:11 GMT)

Bailey and P.Forrest were pretty solid in defence..in few one-days last year..Oz lacking middle-order stability

Posted by ThatsJustCricket on (March 11, 2013, 23:09 GMT)

This is hilarious. The Aussies are losing left and right. So, what do you do? Do not practice playing spin, that is so outdated, in stead, make some fancy presentation and hope that will make things better. Reminds me of the software industry where an already late running project gets further derailed by enthusiastic managers (who obviously have no clue) calling status meeting after status meeting hoping to make things better. And for Gods sake firing the only bowler, Pattinson, who looked like getting wickets is plain silly. Don't even get me started on the rationale behind firing players who did not even play the matches because they did not write essays on how to improve their performance.

Posted by ARad on (March 11, 2013, 23:01 GMT)

This will be my bullet points if I were asked to give my opinion about how to improve the Aussie team. ;) Point 1. We need better leadership that does not try to push round pegs into square holes. The core skill set of a cricketer is very far from filing reports. Good leaders should NEVER DEMAND feedback but must create the necessary conditions that encourages feedback if people have something to say. (When you demand feedback, you usually get shallow corp-talk!) Given the small size of a cricket team, good leaders should be able to work with each person individually in a manner that suits that person to get what you want out of him. Good leaders should show FLEXIBILITY when necessary and take into consideration the fact that not everyone will be good or comfortable at criticizing themselves and/or others. Cricket Australia should give COOPERATIVE leadership training to the players and staff first. (Contd.)

Posted by riprock on (March 11, 2013, 22:55 GMT)

Could've replaced Punter with C.Ferguson and M.Huss with the elder Huss or A.McDonald . fightback on the cards I'd reckon ..not over till its over

Posted by JustIPL on (March 11, 2013, 22:39 GMT)

Hopefully, next time aussies play three spinners in place of quicks and see the results. With the current talent in Indian team watching three prong spin attack will be interesting but worry for aussie batting does not seem to be ending.

Posted by JustIPL on (March 11, 2013, 22:36 GMT)

Patto, Watty, alraedy had thier go. Khwaja/Johnson did not have to play so far and it is time for new talent to come to practice in india.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 22:34 GMT)

Four players get axed for not telling the coach what could be improved? I always thought it was the coach's job to tell the players what to improve on! Seems Arthur is looking for someone else to do his job for him. That may happen sometime soon...

Posted by MinusZero on (March 11, 2013, 22:26 GMT)

Phil Hughes gets off death row, i hope he makes it count (but India still win). Haddin should play as a batsman even is Wade plays. He is batting much better than Steve Smith

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 22:08 GMT)

These so called stunning decisions made Aus team's strength below a league team (IPL). Hopefully this will cement the team spirit from now on and takes them to a higher level.

Posted by CandidIndian on (March 11, 2013, 21:29 GMT)

Lots of statement about this team being not just some other team but Aussie side with great emphasis on discipline ,focus etc.The best thing about Aussies sides which held on to no1 spot in test cricket for so long, even ruled ODI cricket consistently was that players of those sides kept their personal egos apart and played as a team to achieve victory at any cost.No record chasing , friendship acts,just ruthless cricket .Also there where some high quality cricketers with great skills sharpened by experience.To be fair players of this Aussie side neither have quality match winners like past,nor they are able to keep their personal ego clashes aside.Indian team is without their key players like Dravid, Laxman and Zak,they lost to Eng recently.It was golden chance for Aussies to do well in India,but what are they doing? making statement against each other in media 2 days before the third test after being 2-0 down.Sad indeed.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 21:08 GMT)

This is politics pure and simple, and is epitomised by the Watson's walkout.

Only 2-months ago Hussey walked away from cricket because of 'pressure'.

I have seen this all before in the workplace ..... it's called bullying. People in elevated positions use whatever means possible to get rid of competent people. Increased workload, increased pressure, increased responsibility ..... and then pick on the smallest infraction to deal out the harshest penalty.

This is done by egomaniacs who want their 'own' people in the team, ensuring that their is complete unfettered loyalty. It doesn't matter if the team fails, the only thing that matters is their ego.

I look back and see a tatter mess of destruction from Kattich, Bollinger, North, Haddin, Hussey & Watson. Then we could look at assassination by run out that have also occurred including Khawaja, Cowan, Hussey & Henriques.

This is not a message to the team, this is a message to all players, "Don't threaten MJ Clarke's position!!!

Posted by sonicattack on (March 11, 2013, 20:50 GMT)

i find that the majority of Aus fans seem to be not too happy with this decision - well, guys, the world has moved on since Aus were in their pomp, and top sportsmen the world over are expected to analyze their own and the teams performance, it's hardly rocket science. And as the more sensible have posted, one doesn't refuse a reasonable request from the boss, simple as that. These are well paid sportsmen, not amateurs who can do what they like!!

Posted by Chris_P on (March 11, 2013, 20:29 GMT)

Some very amusing posts here from people who have NO idea. The players are given contracts from CA worth millions of dollars & as a part of the contract they are bound to follow any directives from CA or management. How simple is that to understand? You don't want to follow directives, then don't accept the money. You don't get all this money then decide you make your own directives. What a joke some posters here are. The game is & will always be greater than the individual.

Posted by cricketfanwrites on (March 11, 2013, 20:23 GMT)

I am in complete agreement with @inswing, @ Cricket Timis & @Mit Chowdhury. Further; CA, Arthur and Clarke are looking for reason(s) to minimize the horrible results they have gotten from decisions they have made so far. Any CRICKET FAN who follow cricket knew that Australia was in trouble from the time they announced the touring squad. To make matters worse, they compounded a bad situation by not selecting the team to win NOW. Instead, they ignored what all TOURING teams do - tailor your team (squad) to take on the hosts. Clarke is on top of his game as a batsman but as a captain, much is left to be desired. Great leadership is not through intimidation. Instead, its acquired/achieved through knowledge. Knowledge that Clarke & Co needs to attain through leadership. To lead, talent is not the absolute ingredient. Clarke has that. What he has yet to show is tolerance & patience.I guess he will get replacements for Wade and Hughes who will develop a mysterious illness b4 the next test.

Posted by PMKKR on (March 11, 2013, 20:20 GMT)

I think Mickey & Clarke both are outspoken personality, both should be changed. They are unable to keep the team united. It is ridiculous that every individual has to give the presentation, looks like a school class they are taking, what a stupid idea. It is better sit together and discuss, what he is going to achieve, it looks coach is not able to take any decision and putting on everybody head to grab the ideas, so he can save himself. Clarke is too much outspoken personality in the case of Ricky Ponting. He was openly saying for his removal. It looks he cannot keep the team united and better change the captain and coach. I don't know why Pune warriors has taken Clarke and Mumbai has taken Ricky, when even they are not playing for their teams and Mumbai has made a big mistake by offering Ricky as captain for IPL team. How a person can be an icon for the junior's when he is not even playing for his own team.

Posted by cardmak on (March 11, 2013, 20:17 GMT)

I believe Khwaja and Johnson have been made the scapegoat of this turmoil. What did these 2 cricketers do when they were not even part of the playing eleven. How shameful. I think Clark has chip on his shoulder. This is his doing and not the coach.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 20:08 GMT)

Fair enough. If they didn't obey team rules or do things that were apply to things that were required of them, they should be disciplined. When you play for your country , it is about the team NOT the individual. I don't care who it is, if they don't apply to what the team, captain or coach wants , they need to be disciplined. Maybe there are too many egos and their heads need to be deflated. If this effects the performance of the tream, these guys need to show responsibilty. Simple as that.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (March 11, 2013, 19:39 GMT)

HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH what ???? Axed for not doing homework ? This makes the KP showdown with the ECB look like a walk in Disney Land LOL. Clearly there is something wrong between Pup and a few of the players. And what else can you expect from a South African in Mickey Arthur who really has turned the entire Australian cricketing public into mickeys. Expect India to go 3-0 up after Mohali. Guys, you just dropped your ONLY chance to win in Mohali (Pattinson and Johnson). I am sure the Indian boys will be laughing so hard. Seriously, is this how TEST cricket needs to be remembered ?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 19:26 GMT)

I am totally SURPRISED and SHOCKED. Why was Pattinson axed ? Wasn't he the ONLY fast bowler who took wickets ? Also, what mistakes did Khawaja and Johnson make ? Was it their fault they weren't given any opportunities ? Australian cricket is in TURMOIL and that is an understatement. WOW ! I mean... our Indian team were whitewashed 8-0 and the useless Indian selectors didn't move a stone. Dravid and Laxman had to retire on their own otherwise we would still be playing the same XI that were thrashed repeatedly. Even though I feel the Australian selectors were a bit harsh on 3 out of the 4 players, I feel they are sending a right message to all players. Perform or get out of the team ! Still, I cannot comprehend why Pattinson, Khawaja and Johnson were axed for no apparent reason.

Posted by mzm149 on (March 11, 2013, 19:16 GMT)

Khawaja should think about playing for some other country as there seems to be no chance for him to play for Australia. Pakistan will accept him with both hands.

Posted by quittthewhinging on (March 11, 2013, 19:03 GMT)

Wow! What is there left to say? Maybe a word in Mickey Arthur's defence. He has been around OZ cricket for about a year; I refuse to believe that CA would be willing to allow the tail to wag the dog. There is something deeper on the go here. Either the transgressions of the 4 are worse than we are being told OR Arthur is carrying out instructions/guidelines laid down by more authoratative voices in OZ cricket and is merely a front for them. I was never an Arthur fan but he did a reasonable job with the SA team (with Smith's help for sure). Remember he had only an "OK" squad & had to deal with racial "quotas" & stuff like that. No Warnes or Gilchrists. He is more responsible for the present -day success of the Test team than Gary Kirsten, who lucked into the job. I think OZ cricket generally became so used to being on top that they cannot now cope with a downturn. Or maybe a "team" ethic which worked with SA doesn't work with the OZ players. Maybe they would do well to learn.

Posted by shakmiru on (March 11, 2013, 19:02 GMT)

There is difference between not writing anything and writing "I haven't palyed for long, Give me a chance and I will improve team's performance with my concetreated batting display". thats what Usman Khwaja could have written and tell the "Puppy". Anyway, Aussies will be chased like dogs in the next 2 tests and now this is just an alibi they can buy to save their faces at the end of series.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 19:01 GMT)

This looks ridiculous! Being harsh on simple things shows nothing but the unsuitability of the leader (coach in this case). On the other hand, how naïve is it to text or email these sort of things? Nonsense to me!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 18:48 GMT)

Seems like reasonable and proportional are not watchwords used by Arthur and Clarke. Maybe there should have been seven or eight or more players violating this new fangled rule. What then? In addition, what would be the decisions if, as is now likely, India whitewash the Oz? How far would the uncompromising attitude go. Would Arthur and Pup be willing to fall on their swords then?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 18:46 GMT)

What a patronising task, they're international cricketers not 10 year olds in detention. Ridiculous.

Posted by Zycr9 on (March 11, 2013, 18:45 GMT)

The reason Gary Kirsten is rated very highly as a coach is because he put in lot of effort ON THE FIELD.. practice , practice and more practice.. He has done it with indian team .. and now he is showing why he is doing with SA . look at the SA team. They were always a good team and now they are just brushing aside all the teams they come in their way. I hope someone installs sanity back into the head of people running Aus cricket before its too late. Such an important test series is going on and what a shocker!. While captain and coach need to take hard stance. It is imperative they do it by improving the batting , fielding , mental aspect of players but not like this. Sacking players like James pattison and watson is so demoralizing. Aussie team needs these two players to compete against confident indian team after two losses. Very poor handling of these players. Clarke will face heat from Indian team in 3rd test and also from whole world. This completely wrong and inexplicable.

Posted by JG2704 on (March 11, 2013, 18:41 GMT)

As has been mentioned Mitch and Khawaja haven't even played. Should they be sarcastic and say I think I should have bowled a tighter line or got to the pitch of the ball. If they make criticisms of certain players it surely creates disharmony within the group. From the dialogue I've had with Aus fans on these threads it seems they left the most threatening spinner at home to begin with and then they drop the best spin bowler in the squad after the 1st test. There weren't many comms calling for Doherty to play in the 2nd test anyway but those who wanted him playing were wanting him to play alongside Lyon and not instead of him. England got it right after the 1st test but if they had picked Monty INSTEAD of Swann the series would have gone to India for sure. It seems that Arthur and co should be made to do the esays , 100 lines , sit in the corner with the dunces hat on and whatever else

Posted by jsnaurvi on (March 11, 2013, 18:31 GMT)

Indians Fans should look at this .Aussies shows courage to drop their best players but on other hand some Indians fans are shouting on dropping under performing Viru and Gautam.

Posted by nlambda on (March 11, 2013, 18:27 GMT)

What is truly hilarious is that Watson had commented during India's tour that Indians disintegrate quickly when things are not going well for them. This kind of total team collapse is something thankfully India did not manage :-). Kinda sad to see the team of Waugh, Mcgrath, Warne and Gilchrist reduced to this though.

Posted by WilliamFranklin on (March 11, 2013, 18:09 GMT)

This drastic decision smacks of a management trying (and failing) to come up with real solutions to the current poor performance of the team.

At least they will be stronger without Mitchell Johnson.

Posted by SLMaster on (March 11, 2013, 17:57 GMT)

It is good to have opinions and input from everyone, played or not played. But, if Arthur and Clarke were very serious about it, they should have held an open discussion with all in one meeting...a round table. Instead of waiting someone to drop notes like teenage lovers do. Emailing, texting, and sliding notes under the door are very naive. May be those got sacked want an open discussion. In my business I do not hold Mickey-Mouse stuff. It is open and all participate openly.

Posted by cricket-freak on (March 11, 2013, 17:54 GMT)

Is this a cricket team or university class that they are being treated such!!By taking out Johnson and Pattinson they are depriving themselves of match-winners the last hopes that they had for the coming tests bcoz Mohali was favourable for pacers...It is clear from the management`s attitude that they are really confused and taking out their aggression on the players..Lack of sensibility!And lastly players are not thier advisors..if the palyers are going to do this then what are the coach and captain for?

Posted by AVRAJAN on (March 11, 2013, 17:49 GMT)

I feel this is too harsh. Actually Micky Arthur should have been asked by Cric. Australia as how to how he is going to improve the performance. Arthur is quick and quite brilliant that he had now passed on the bug to others and has diverted the issue. On the one hand Dhoni is giving too many opportunities to saturated players. On the other Clarke & co is taking too harsh decisions. Take a clue from England. They analysed their mistakes and bounced back. If only team members have to suggest then what the captain and coach are doing? The comment posted by Mr. inswing above is correct and comprehensive.

Posted by Arrow011 on (March 11, 2013, 17:48 GMT)

Mickey has really made a Mickey Mouse of Australian Cricket & he has a PUP to support him.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:47 GMT)

wow, Johnson not playing third test too, you sack your only bowler who has got experience in indian conditions, when you are 0-2 down, this is a total FAIL

Posted by US_Indian on (March 11, 2013, 17:41 GMT)

This is how professional managements work were equality prevails no idol worship no status quo no descrimination no double standards where the same yardstick is used for all no stature leniency. When will this happen in India and will this ever happen ? A big lesson to lerarn for indians, the bcci, the media and the players and the idolizing public. it clearly sshows that no one is above the game or the nation who ever it may be. do we have such a culture and attitude?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:39 GMT)

I am with Pup and Micky. When 13 players can do what the coach wants why not the 4...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:38 GMT)

@Viji Srikanth Yeah, but maybe he always submitted his homework on time. I think I finally understand why Ravi Shastri insists on doing homework.

Posted by HiyerNHiyer on (March 11, 2013, 17:28 GMT)

Ridiculous is all I can say.. Its the players who have to perform on the field Mickey you just watch and work with them and work on your computers. Whats the point you are trying to make here? If you wanted to punish them then do it within the walls of the dressing room. Put it down in your report after the tour is over. I feel that a better way would have been a) a strict dressing down given to the players in private b) one on one sessions with the players c)brainstorming session with the team on the three aspects. Th emain reason Aus lost is because the batting folded. a better way woul dbe to get a few local lads around who bowl spin and get practice. Mohali has always been helpful to the pacers and by ruling out Pattinson and Mitchell you are ruling out two potential matchwinners

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:25 GMT)

I can so relate to this, feel sorry for the MS 4, hereby renamed Shane "Excel" Watson, James "PowerPoint" Pattinson, Mitchell "Word" Johnson and Usman "Outlook" Khawaja

Posted by AjaySridharan on (March 11, 2013, 17:22 GMT)

Making scapegoats. This is about as silly as they come. Mickey, as the coach, should have been telling the guys what was wrong with them and guide them rather than ask them to tell him what was wrong. What is he there for then?! Hats off to Kirsten who shepherded ego maniacal Indians in the dressing room...not easy when you have Sachin, Sehwag, and the likes in the babudom that is the Indian dressing room.

Posted by mrmonty on (March 11, 2013, 17:21 GMT)

So, let me get this straight. The coach is soliciting coaching (i.e. improvement) advice from the players that he is supposed to coach? And, that is a "line in the sand" moment! I think it is time for Cricket Australia to draw their own "line in the sand" and fire coach for not having enough ideas to coach.

Posted by Jagannadhraj on (March 11, 2013, 17:15 GMT)

This is Ridiculous!!!! Arthur has gone bonkers. Why on earth would they drop Shane watson and pattinson when they are already 0-2 in the series?? Doesn't make any sense. Is this international cricket team or a school team to sack players for not turning in their home work? It's a complete waste to watch the rest of the series. Aussies whitewash is 100% sure.

Posted by Chicagoan76 on (March 11, 2013, 17:15 GMT)

I question the version that Clarke and Arthur are putting out there. Either the instructions were not clear or players who did not even play were not expected to hand in the assignment. I dont think you can say that this was an ongoing problem, because it should have been addressed at the first incident. And why not come out and say what the ongoing issues were? Farcical and disgraceful.

Posted by HURRICANE.Sehwag on (March 11, 2013, 17:14 GMT)

This is sheer dictatorship. Players have to be groomed in by proper counselling and morale boosting. That is what a cricket coach is expected to do. Playing with their careers for the sake of trivial things like this just send a wrong message to the juniors. Cricketers are to be known for their cricketing skills and not presentation or writing skills.

Posted by screamingeagle on (March 11, 2013, 17:13 GMT)

Hope none of the guys left are late in handing over the homework on time, else there may not be 11 players to field. But then again, maybe they can rope in Warne and Hayden? :D

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:12 GMT)

What is Pup's explanation of his poor performances during Punter's regime. How many times did he cross the 30's. His record is gud after becoming the captain. Strange Talk!

Posted by RandyOZ on (March 11, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

Well Arthur has just shown what we have all been thinking for a while now, performance on the park does not matter. It explains the likes of Cowan still being in the team. We need Boof ASAP.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:00 GMT)

In the corporate world some mediocre companies who used to be great blindly follow processes and standards with out much regard for the final product. and with the latest fad of bringing clinical management to sports, some thing like this was bound to happen. Usman Khwaja wasn't even playing. Cricket is the final product. The coach should realise that. Blindly doing "management things" will ruin your team.

I dont know what they were expecting from Pattinson... maybe something like "1. I'll open the batting 2. ...?"

Posted by rkarthik.k on (March 11, 2013, 16:58 GMT)

It is the job of the coach to analyze the reason of the failure of the team . If the players can find themselves the reason of failure or what can be done to improve their game ,then no sports team needs a coach.

And the dumbest thing is to ask a report from the players who didn't play the game at all .

Posted by test_cric_rocks on (March 11, 2013, 16:58 GMT)

Tough decision..some of it help in future but for present it will bring down the morale of some players who have worked very hard..especially Pattinson...but it is also a good example for other teams which shows the responsibility of a national player when representing their country..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:56 GMT)

pup and coach ran out of ideas for staging a comeback so they asked all the players..... it s the duty of the players to support their management in all possible ways... but the coach could ve asked the players in a better way such as one to one discussion.. v all know aussies are known for their disciplined approach on and off the field... usually they come out of the crisis somehow.... but i wish that to happen after leaving india.............

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:36 GMT)

This is just ridiculous. Coach is taking out his failure on the players. Khawaja and Johnson have never got an opportunity to play so they could have easily thought they don't need to do so. Watson is a cheer class and he probably did not need to do it anyway. What a mess!

Posted by S.Alis on (March 11, 2013, 16:35 GMT)

I once dream "Will there be a time to see Oz in the bottom of the ranking tables". Yay. The time has come. Good Job MA.. Good Job.

Posted by srisri on (March 11, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

A line in the sand is a "series-in-the-bag" for India. As someone wrote here, this looks more like business meeting than cricket!

Posted by sk12 on (March 11, 2013, 16:34 GMT)

oh boy.. If Flether had done somethign similarly, he would ve been sacked next day and duly deported back. But then, there are so many mistakes by Oz in the first 2 games so whats the prob for these 4 players to just choose the 3 and test em?? 1) Batsmen avoid sweep shot until you have faced 45 minutes fo spin 2) Pepper Pujara and Dhoni with head high bouncers. Rest of the Ind batsmen wld struggle against consistent spin. 3) Drop/Rest/Send back Hughes, pick anyone else (even Lyon, he looked more comfortable than Hughes). There you go, I got these in 2 minutes. Pick me in the Aus team.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:33 GMT)

What about the players playing in their stead? If they perform badly then it's going to reflect as a poor decision that has ended up punishing Australian supporters, sponsors and the team. Hughes fails again, Smith coming in and being ineffective? Not so bad if they do well. But if the replacements fail, then there is going to be resentment and bitterness from everyone - the sacked players, the crowds, the sponsors and many Oz fans. There is a better than even chance that everyone involved will rue this decision.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:33 GMT)

Pattson - best fast bowler in this series... R u kidding me, n Khwaja????? not even got an chance........ n hughes??? whats he done ......

Posted by AamirAbuOzair on (March 11, 2013, 16:30 GMT)

Guys, I am not in favour of this decision. It is too childish and shows the nervousness of the team management.

At this time, you need to boost the morale rather than demotivate the players. I could expect this reaction had this been in U-13's but not at this level of professional cricket.

The whole approach of three things is funny and in my opinion non-productive. It would have been more beneficial had they done that in a Team-building exercise and divide the team into smaller groups and hold presentations followed by brain storming and putting up an action items for improvement.

I am unable to understand the behaviour of sliding the letters under the door or sending emails. Especially when you are asking the players who were not even part of playing 11. On a lighter note, it was their chance to drop only one point: pick me up in playing 11.....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:24 GMT)

the aussies sud learn 4rm indians... even aftr 8-0 whitewash the stood 4 each other.... the captain 2k all d responsibility!!!!! d aussies need a "serious" ATTITUDE ADJUSTMENT!!!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:19 GMT)

Ok Mickey, forget about bat and balls in the next Test versus India, and lets judge the wiiner of the series based upon skills in the classroom. Lets say, the team that comes up with the best essay is decleared the winner of the Gav/Bor trophy, and would also get their college fees paid in full by the losing Cricket Board, and don't forget to mention that they wil alsol get a full scolarship to Oxford University in England where they will participate in some cricket games in between their essay writing classes.

I think India will win this also, any bets???

Posted by yorkshire-86 on (March 11, 2013, 16:17 GMT)

What tosh the first features article is. Cricketers need to know they arnt playing just because they like it? It's their duty to represent their country to the best of their abilities? Sorry but 2 of the 4 players wernt even playing for Australia. What are they supposed to say? It's your fault mr selector for not picking me? And in the case of Watson 'pick a specialist batsman who averages over 40' and sacrifice his own place?

Posted by ada123 on (March 11, 2013, 16:10 GMT)

what total rubbish this is! this is mickey arthur's job, he needs to watch video and access these things, not the players to do the coach's job. another example of the arrogance that australians show - just like the declaration of michael clarke. these are not bold moves, these are portrayed to be bold moves...there's a difference. hoping for a clean indian sweep.

Posted by JustIPL on (March 11, 2013, 16:08 GMT)

Blessing in disguise for India as they can now play their bench strength to experiment like aussies are doing.

Posted by mensan on (March 11, 2013, 16:06 GMT)

But Usman and Johnson did not play. So how can they give input regarding improvement in their game.

Posted by FAB_ALI on (March 11, 2013, 16:04 GMT)

I m sure Satish Acharya has already started making a cartoon on the matter..... Really funny thing!!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:02 GMT)

What was the point of making players do this? Was Mickey going to collate the results and go with the most popular answer(s)??

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 16:01 GMT)

johnson and khawja missed the plot here i guess.. they should have simple sent a one line sms to coach 'get us baq into the team mate!' lolz..

Posted by Nobby21 on (March 11, 2013, 15:52 GMT)

It does seem rather petty on the face of it, but as mentioned in the article, a line has to be drawn. And these four are acting like children. I would give anything to play cricket for an English county let alone England. It's a privilege and an honour to play for your country (even oz, lol) they seem to think they have a right, therefore a lesson needs to be taught too these four, even if they are the best four players on planet earth. I have marveled at Oz players with their attitude and skills over the last 40 years, now, not so much.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:47 GMT)

Pattinson was the best player in the team other than Michael Clarke, how can he improve further? With regards to other players, there must have been other disciplinary issues besides not writing an e mail about imporvement. I wish that the Indian tema management could take bold decisions like this once in a while....!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:43 GMT)

This decision, at first, seems too harsh. But considered carefully, it is the right one. At the end of the day, it's about attitude. Australia has always been proud of its attitude and professionalism towards the game. This sends a strong message that although losing is pardonable, indifference is not; it's okay to fail but to not be ashamed is inexcuseable. Will it make a difference in the long run if Australia lose the Mohali Test? Will it make a difference in the long run if Australian cricket compromises on its professionalism? I think it was these two questions that prompted the team management to do what they did. Agreed, Cricket Australia isn't a multinational business company, and this wasn't the case of one of its 'employees' failing to follow 'business orders'. But all said and done, your attitude determines your altitude, and this applies to all walks of life.

Posted by Mohammad_Imran on (March 11, 2013, 15:36 GMT)

A ridiculous decision! The only bowler who looked like taking any wickets in the series has been benched... I think they wanted to do this so they at least have an excuse for losing the 3rd test... a line in the sand moment will result in a 4-0 whitewash

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:31 GMT)

Its leadership issue. Pup should have gone for one on one discussion instead of requesting for presentation. Presentation in any format is boring Michael. Just get them back and have a verbal discussion in some cricket ground. I am sure they will comply :)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:29 GMT)

Khawaja never even got the nod, Pattinson is easily their only effective bowler in this tour, Johnson has played 7 matches in india, and mickey doesn't even value his experience and for watson, picking him was sheer gamble. Looks like pup and mickey have stumbled in man-management. If they need to send anyone home, it has to be hughes, wade(because of injury) and 'millionaire' maxwell.

Posted by Omarrz on (March 11, 2013, 15:28 GMT)

Usman and Johnson didn't even play. That is very unfair! And Pattinson, did he need an explanation? He was the only one who performed!

Posted by mar2000 on (March 11, 2013, 15:28 GMT)

never ending SAGA of top players always in the negative press .

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:27 GMT)

Both the Mananager and the Coach should be fired and the Captain should have a real good explanation on why players were forced to do managements job.The Manager and Coach seemed to be incompetents when they resort to demanding from players suggestions and explanations as to failures and shortcomings in team performance Thats not the players role.In other words these officials are merely looking for scapegoats rather than admit their own failures.Pass the buck on to the unfortunate players.

Posted by Naren on (March 11, 2013, 15:25 GMT)

Looks like Clarke is playing favoritism. His run in with Katich is well known. Maybe he doesn't want Shane Watson. There is ample evidence as Clarke trying to say that Watson can only play as an all rounder. We all know how bad Clarke was playing when Ponting was captaining and as soon as he took over captaincy he hit purple form.

Posted by msdhoni123 on (March 11, 2013, 15:24 GMT)

would a teacher expel a student for not doing his homework. I rest my case

Posted by Alkais on (March 11, 2013, 15:19 GMT)

This is ridiculous. School boy stuff, nothing else. Arthur has to learn man management first. India's best coach so far, John Wright would take the players away and have word one to one about what he thought.. THis was sufficient for the players to pull up their performances. Arthur, its time to step down. So far, we were thinking Otis Gibson was the only coach who was dictating terms with players, now another coach joins that list. Pattinson was the best bowler so far in the series against whom indians struggled. Usman khwaja, hasnt played in any of the test. This is gonna clearly affect the morale of the team. Good news for India. If Australia loses the next test match, will the same exercise be followed, arthur will find another set of players, axe them for the 4th test. Arthur should be made as coach of Australian team for life long. Good news for other teams.

Posted by JonoD on (March 11, 2013, 15:15 GMT)

I have two thoughts about this. First, how is writing 3 points about how you can improve actually going to help anything. I can understand the desire to have players reflect on their performance and consider how to improve but three dot points presented to the coach is hardly the best way to do this. Secondly, what would Arthur and Clarke have done if another 2 or 3 players hadn´t submitted their dot points, forfeited the 3rd test because we don´t have enough players. Stupid way to address discipline issues, not remotely comprable to the Peiterson issue of last year.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:13 GMT)

Now India should try to win the test in 3 days without watson

Posted by Patrick_ on (March 11, 2013, 15:12 GMT)

Why would someone axe the best pace bowler in the tournament ? It is the worst decision unless the coach is hiding something from the media. Usually such drastic measures are taken for serious indiscipline like a fight between team mates. Given the available information this is one of the worst decisions in recent memory on par with that of Ross Taylor.

Posted by SarfBD on (March 11, 2013, 15:10 GMT)

That is silly! Every cricket playing nation used to respect Australians for their professionalism. But it seems they are determined to destroy that. At first a forced retirement of M. Hussy, the finest batsman of the last decade. And now dropping their top 4 players for failing to submit some homework. Childishness at its best...

Posted by Cricket316 on (March 11, 2013, 15:09 GMT)

This by any means cannot be an Improvement for Aus. The 4 Players that have been axed, just didnt see that comin, did they ? They"ll be mighty disappointed with CA. Pattinson was the best bowler in Oz Squad,hands down. And Watto, gotta feel bad for him. What a waste of Talent. 1st Management asks him to stop bowling and when he doesnt't do gr8 with bat, he's axed. I jst wonder, if he was still bowling, he'd be still in the Team.Dont forget he's an opener, that was asked to bat at 4. Khwaja n Johnson weren't given opportunities to perform,at all. The Ramifications of this "No Logic Axing" can be ugly. There are 3 players that needed to be Axed in my opinion- Maxwell(Struggles in limited overs, not a Test player by any means), Cowan(Has starts but always looked Rusty in all Innings) and Phil Hughes(Struggled the most against spin). This will be a huge blow to the morale of these players and the Entire Team. Mickey Arthur & Clarke's decision have done more bad than good for Oz Team here

Posted by bob.bee22210 on (March 11, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

Let the Oz coach take note of Andy Flowers words about the NZ v England 1st test. ""If you are asking about a trend, that is certainly something that I should be addressing myself," he said before the team travelled to Wellington. "I have some ideas on rejigging a couple of things in our preparation, in our management team firstly, and we'll see if we can do something about it.

"We always encourage our players to be honest with themselves, and each other. So then we've got to do the same. The coaches have to do that, and I'm the first guy that has to do it."

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:08 GMT)

I'm in total agreement with management's decision, I'll consider it bold one but not harsh. People need to stop making excuses for Johnson and Khawwja. There are seventeen players on tour, why did the other four that didn't play in the SECOND TEST wasn't dicipline, did they not fulfil what was require of them. They were given a legitimate task by they superiors and based on what I've read, they along with the other two players showed gross insubordination by not carrying out the order by the deadline and not giving a reason for not carrying out the order on or before the deadline. They should've participated in some way I'll give the same 4 the same task to be done before the start of the THIRD TEST.

Posted by gsingh7 on (March 11, 2013, 15:02 GMT)

patto due rest, watson and johnson are useless in india, khawaga is unknown intity. no big losses to aus. mickey wud be best spinner from aus side , who wud have thunk??

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 15:02 GMT)

Winnowing out vice captain and other good players at this point in time would affect the team's performance and take them down. I don't deny that the incident should be ignored, however Coach Arthur would have worked it out by giving a warning in public which obviously would have served his purpose in a balanced way if not in a stringent manner. God should help Aussies to cover their back now. Good luck fellas.

Posted by dhruvans on (March 11, 2013, 15:01 GMT)

As for how these players would improve team performances.

Khawaja/Johnson : pick us we ll do better than Hughes and Stark

Watto : i dont want to be picked because i would like time with my pregnant wife (fair enough)

Pattinson : is really the only one who this axing could/should be applied to.

Finally I hope Hughes in his address to the coach, wrote to Arthur, please drop me and choose another batsmen, that is the only way I can improve the teams performance on this tour.

Posted by Baundele on (March 11, 2013, 14:59 GMT)

So, the coach and captain have found the scapegoats. Job done!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:58 GMT)

Clearly Arthur is upset that his team are getting stuffed... so what does he do because 4 players don't play his stupid management game... debar them from selection...leaving himself only 12 players, one of whom is doubtful because of injury, to select 11 to put matters right...Sound like a really sensible plan to me.. !! A slapped wrist or a match fee fine might have been more appropriate... but no.. he had to have his pound of flesh. Talk about cutting your nose off to spite your face. Make the most of you moment of power Arthur... it might not last much longer... Although we Poms hope it does of course...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:55 GMT)

What a smart way to prepare for Ashes , by not exposing the best in your team

Posted by popcorn on (March 11, 2013, 14:54 GMT)

I see nothing wrong in Mickey Arthur's demand for answers on how each one would improve. John Buchanan, the BEST EVER Coach in World Cricket, asked his Players to raise their mental levels,write poetry, read The Art of War, and did wonders to the Aussie Team.Made us the World's best.

Posted by SG_Styles on (March 11, 2013, 14:54 GMT)

Players are meant to play d game - not to make presentations or submitting d notes! n also d timing of d decision is nt at all right. Australian team's already facing lots of problems. The focus of d team should b practicing hard, improvising - nt to make notes n ppts. I didnt expect such kind f stuffs frm a coach who's as experienced n successful as Arthur is. He's got it wrong. And c'mon, its nt a player's job to find ideas for - Coaches get paid for that. If he cant, its better for him n team to step down. N look at d players who're axed - Watson, team's vice-caption, Pattinson - so far their most successful bowler this tour. Johnson n Khawaja hadnt got even single game to play - how can one expect them for analysing d losses of which they werent even part of? Whatever discipline, team ethics they're talking, atleast for this tour n d postion in which Aussies are in, d axeing isnt justifying.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:52 GMT)

Winnowing out vice captain and other good players at this point in time would affect the team's performance and take them down. I don't deny that the incident should be ignored, however Coach Arthur would have worked it out by giving a warning in public which obviously would have served his purpose in a balanced way if not in a stringent manner. God should help Aussies to cover their back now. Good luck fellas.

Posted by Naresh28 on (March 11, 2013, 14:45 GMT)

Oz are panicking before Ashes series. The team needs to pick it self up before then and this is the result of their last two losses. Shane Watson and Pattison are their key players and now it will give India a chance to shut out a series win.

Posted by s_v_krishnan on (March 11, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

One cannot be good coach by just being strict guy!!! You have to go with the players mindset and it is just man management. Arthur is another Ian Chappel. Sorry to see Aussie cricket team go like this. As a Indian, I was expecting good competition cricket, Okay, I will wait until next series.

Posted by perl57 on (March 11, 2013, 14:35 GMT)

With great powers come great responsibilities. And for some it comes as a rude jolt. Like Dhoni in 2009 and 2010 T20 WCs. Like England, after winning #1 they were beaten like cr@p on a batting paradise. But this is something else. Australia already in a soup is under impression that they should do more strategy. If all players need to say what needs to done, then what is Micky doing? Cricket Australia, need to replace Micky with an Oz coach. Of course not Chappels but Man Managers. More than these disasters, CA needs to learn to protect their spoilt brats. Steve Waugh used to get away with his burts in the media, he was protected but not these guys. Ricky who was thrown out of bar in kolkata but was made captain, but fired someone like Andrew Symonds. That;s why with greater powers come greater responsibilities and if you misuse like CA then who an help them?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:32 GMT)

There is much more to this than we know. There must have been a lot going on behind the scenes. To me the seriousness of the one match suspension indicates that whatever offence was committed was much more serious than failing to complete a form. Perhaps with Watson it was also related to his public statements that he wanted to open the batting and by implication have either Dave Warner or more likely Ed Cowan lose his position in the team. This is seriously undermining the team. I cannot see who will be Australia's captain after Michael Clarke. None of the current players can be considered on their present form and that is a big worry. Australia need to win the next two tests - who can do it for us? Perhaps Haddin will help and perhaps Lyon in tandem with Doherty will make batting more difficult for the Indians. Can't wait for the 3rd test to start.

Posted by bob.bee22210 on (March 11, 2013, 14:26 GMT)

Seems to me a case of 'passing the buck'. It's the coachs job to sort out the team problems, that's what he's paid for. I am sure that Andy Flower would not have come up with such a stupid idea. The best way is for the players to sit down together and thrash it out between themselves, the coach acting as chairman to keep things in order! Will it next be "You failed to get a satisfactory score / You failed to take as many wickets as I would like. Write out one hundred times 'I must play to the standard that the coach demands"

Posted by nyc_missile on (March 11, 2013, 14:25 GMT)

Bit harsh on Pattinson and Mitchell as they probably were going to play the 3rd test and would have been ones to make an impact.Watson looked out of touch and Khawaja is an unseen product yet.But I salute Clarke and Arthur for this bold decision.You may argue with drastic nature of it and timing of it when you needed to win a match desperately but this is only after 2 matches?! We were smashed 10-1 8-0 first and 2-1 at home and moron Dhoni & useless BCCI management didn't do a thing..apart from retirements of RD & VVS.This is what separates the 2 teams in terms of ethics and professionalism.. cultures of both teams.Oz might take a while longer in their rebuilding but definitely there is promise with no nonsense decisions like these.We won just 2 matches at home and everyone have forgotten the humiliations abroad.So I say bravo Clarke & Arthur!

Posted by arvind.Kejriwal.AAP_A_Better_INDIA_ on (March 11, 2013, 14:22 GMT)

Now this is getting serious.

If someone has to go, it is Mr. Artur not Shane Watson. Cricket is Alive because of Top Cricketers like Watson. I understand, Watson and other three players didn't submit the report in time. But the punishment is indeed harsh. A fine or even a warning could have been given before taking such unnecessary step. And btw, Khuwaja and Johnson didn't even the play the matches.What would they write about their mistakes they made in the match ? Strange ! Players give 100% on the field, and if they fail, it is the duty (JOB) of the supporting staff/ Coaches/ mentors etc. to analyze what went wrong NOT players itself.

It seems CA have not learnt from KP-ECB and Gayle-WICB drama. You can't bully the Cricketers. I'm with Watson and other guys. They deserve to be on the field in Mohali.

- Indian Fan.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:20 GMT)

Utter nonesense !!!! This is simply a distraction from your lame perfromances as a coach so far on this tour. Continue like this and there will no players around for the start of the fourth test. I'm left scratching my head! How would Kawaja and Johnson make comments on how to improve their performances and those of the team? seeing that they haven't even played in a test. Should they advise you to drop current players and pick them instead? isn't that a kind of back stabbing their team mates ? is this what Australian Cricket all about? The more you bad mouth your team mates, the more you are in favour with team management. Lame excuese for poor coaching. Number one ? in which decade again? Watson,Kawaja,Johnson and Pattison can't write, but they can play cricket. Your job is to improve the players skill and morale on the field, and not to make them sit like a schoolboys and write eaasys to you ! You should go home ! This is disgraceful to say the least.

Posted by BOND_OO7 on (March 11, 2013, 14:19 GMT)

I think it's a great move by Arthur. Arthur makes it clear that players are bound to obey rules and carry out orders ,no matter whoever they are. It's an example of a fact that how to regroup and rebuild a team. I greatly appreciate this. This is the kind of decision that other countries dare not take. Other coaches should learn from Arthur.

Posted by gsingh7 on (March 11, 2013, 14:15 GMT)

last time england dropped kp for some tweets, the next test england suffered biggest loss in cricket history. also lost series 2-0 and were stripped of mace after 9 months of gaining it. then ecb bent backwards to take kp in. same is happening to CA, they will beg watson and pattison to come back if these 2 take extended leave.

Posted by Red_Stripe on (March 11, 2013, 14:14 GMT)

This is pretty shambolic stuff by the Aussies but really the root of the problem is a lack of ability on turning pitches, both with the bat and also with ball in hand. This approach will only create divisions to go alongside a shrinking talent pool. Poor all round from the coaching and management staff, difficult to see a team recovering from something like this.

Posted by Narkovian on (March 11, 2013, 14:13 GMT)

@Hamrony 11... I agree. Unfortunate name Mickey. Sums it all up in two words. Mickey Mouse. Complete joke. Facts are they just ain't good enough. Anyone can see that. I have a feeling MA will be gone within a few months. Maybe even before Ashes. Being English , I love AUS to be in a mess. But actually I would prefer them to be strong so that we can have a hard fought Ashes series. Strong AUS is good for cricket. What a ridiculous shambles.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

I totally agree with Inswing's featured comment.

It's rediculous to ask Patto who has been commited as hell and together with Clarke shown they are worthy of wearing the baggy green this tour. Kawaja and Johnson have not played so this only leaves Watson to tell us why he has been so rubbish.

Arthur is looking for ways a manager looks to cover his arse when the company he is in charge of is failing. I've lived it all. "You were 2 mins too long on your break", "Take down all your personal items from your desk because they distract you", "No talking with your colleagues unless it's a business matter", "As of Friday you will all change desks" etc, etc...They turn a blind eye to the competition selling a better product/ service, the product they company sells is no longer needed or has been surpassed or alternated by competitors

My intetion wasnt to veer off-course but Arthur must be held accountable for the shambolic and rash choices made after the 1st Test.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (March 11, 2013, 14:09 GMT)

While the idea of asking three points from each player is not a bad move, I wonder what Khawaja could possibly say on this matter? That dude hasn't played enough at this level and hasn't played in India at all. What could he say, when an experienced Captain himself finds it hard to make correct calls in India. Having said that, Khawaja should have said something. It doesn't have to be the best thing since sliced bread. Same with others. They should have said something as is required of them. I support Clarke completely on this issue. When you request something, lack of response cannot be taken for an amicable answer. Communication in any which way is paramount. It is sad that it had come to this.

Posted by Evangelyst on (March 11, 2013, 14:08 GMT)

I am sure its a trick by team Australia to make India complacent thinking that Watson and Pattinson will not be there. They will at the last minute spring a surprise and include Pattinson and maybe Johnson in the team. Team India stay focused and win the next two.

Posted by Ajanth-Kishaan on (March 11, 2013, 14:05 GMT)

In my view, the OZ and indian meadias have given enough reasons why the OZ team lost so bad.It is therfore the OZ coach and the mangement to look at them seriously and address them properly.

Posted by landl47 on (March 11, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

There are two issues here. One is the immediate issue of team discipline. I'd be interested to know whether anyone who is criticising the decision to drop the players would themselves fail to carry out what their boss at work asked them to do and expect him/her to do nothing about it? I'm guessing the answer is no. Once the players had been asked to do something, either they should have done it or expect the consequences.

The other issue is whether what was asked of the players is a good approach by management. The answer to that, as always, lies in the results. If Arthur can't get the results CA wants, then his methods aren't working and he should be fired. However, that's a decision for CA, not for the players. My own feeling is that players should be invited to contribute, not ordered to do so. That would not only likely produce better team morale, but would also indicate how committed players are. We'll see in the next test if Arthur's approach works.

Posted by HardusSA on (March 11, 2013, 14:02 GMT)

As a South African, I'm so glad we have moved on from the Mickey Mouse days. Treat players as adults and not bloody school kids and take some blame yourself. Not a fan of the Mickey's approach and his own attitude AND was pleasantly surprised when he got the job. CA must take some stick here as well.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 14:01 GMT)

Haha! This is just pathetic... Send home two of your strike bowlers and a potential top 3 batsman over "3 points to improve." Australia will continue to slide with radical and outrageous decisions such as this. How is this going to improve those players performances?

A better way to punish them would've been to make them do a big presentation in front of the whole team, coaching staff and support staff. Would've been beneficial for the whole team that way, including the parties involved.

What a poor decision on CAS behalf. Up there with the way Ross Taylor was treated with the whole captaincy issues.

Posted by timtom on (March 11, 2013, 13:58 GMT)

I`m sure the issues surrounding discipline must be bigger than these which have been building up for a long period now and which cannot be revealed to public. And these 4 were the first in Q. And do they have to get in a brawl or booze to be classified as indisciplined ... Mickey Arthur is a fine coach..SA team will teel that.. These things will lead to build a better team in long run...

Posted by pull_shot on (March 11, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

Feel sorry for pattinson who bowled his heart out in both test matches is sent back to home because he didnt write a letter ridiculous at its best.

Posted by cricpolitics on (March 11, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

This proves nothing but frustration of a losing coach and the captain.

Posted by SLMaster on (March 11, 2013, 13:56 GMT)

I always thought this is going to happen after Ponting left. There is a truth to what Arthur is trying to do. Culture, leadership, and commitment all went away with Ponting's exit. Under Pointing there was confidence is every player and players knew what Ponting was expecting and there weren't cutting corners. He was straight forward. Clarke is not the same. If Australia wants to play good cricket, they need a good leader. However, what Arthur is trying to enforce on players is not going to work.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:55 GMT)

Gosh Where is this guy comes from ...the office of the directorate for following procedures of a govt run statistics dept ? two players didnt play any matches on this tour /one is yet to play for Aus in a test ....It sounds almost like a sales conference slipping notes /emails /texts/presentations ??? I hope this coach brings in discipline by making the team wear a tie for the match ...as a longtime follower of test cricket ...was waiting to see the australian side stand up and fight with aggression and hardwork the ethics they are known for ...and the indian fans secretly admire and hope the Indian team and management do the same .....

I expect a special Rubber stamp being flown in before the test match for the coach to brand who played well and who didnt .....way to go ...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:54 GMT)

This extraordinary decision, while presented as being tough management, is actually a sign of weak and confused management. It seems to be more about Mr Arthur's ego than about helping the team to win test matches. Yes the team must respect their management, but you cannot build respect like this. If the only way that the management team can think of to get the players' attention is to take the 'nuclear option' of dropping people, then they have failed to create a proper atmosphere within the group.

Dropping players for trivial reasons makes Australia look foolish and just causes a total lack of respect for the coach - the opposite of the intended result.

Posted by TomLundy on (March 11, 2013, 13:53 GMT)

Three points, hey? Get rid of Arthur, Inverarity and replace the captain with someone who wants to play for Australia and not for himself. Unbelievable.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:53 GMT)

For a guy that once got throttled for wanting to bring forward the team song so he could do out with his missus, this seems like a crazy and harsh decision to agree to. Surely a gentle reminder of them before the deadline would have resulted in them writing down something on a scrap of paper and putting it under the door. As is they are going to get pummelled again in India (would have happened anywhere) and the teams togetherness will be severely tested.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:53 GMT)

Australia team is falling apart.

Posted by Emuny on (March 11, 2013, 13:50 GMT)

This is the WORST thing I have ever heard of happening in all my time of following Australian Cricket: weak

Posted by gsingh7 on (March 11, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

i do like mickey's attitude. apart from making CA the laughing stock of world , he is setting a precedent. no matter who u r , u should obey me. whitewash is certainly a formality now. hope indians thump australia into 4-0 loss. this will dent them ahead of ashes.i wonder when will patil or dhoni axe the master blaster. he is past his sell by date and hampering indian cricket now. god must retire ,NOW.bring sidharth kaul for ishant asap. indian team is ready to dish out a whitewash.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:47 GMT)

Makes me remember my school days.....i know the Aussies work differently, but this is absolutely ridiculous....Arthur is letting his frustration out by doing this. If anyone deserves to be kicked out; it's Arthur himself!

Posted by BRUTALANALYST on (March 11, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

Sounds like Mickey Arthur has an issue with Khawaja, why the extra words about him when he hasn't even played here ? The whole thing sound ridiculous unless there is more we are not being told . . . In my opinion if this is all there is too it there is only 1 person who should be sent home and that is Arthur !

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:43 GMT)

How could players do a coach's job??? Players are supposed to be good at field work not home work.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

Excellent move by Arthur.. The issue is not simply three suggestions. The objective was for each and every memeber of the team to be committed enough to sit down, think things through and jot their thoughts down in writing. Although the team does not say it, I think Arhtur felt there was a general lack of commitment in the team.... Not surprised that there were four who did not. Needed someone to take a stand on discipline and commitment. ..Great job Arthur...Wonder if the Indian team management can think and act this way...It is not only about great talent in the cricketers... The management is there for a purpose.. and this is the way management works.. So Indian team management... This is a wake up call for you... soon , you will be be in the same situation in SA, England,Australia... are you willing to learnfrom the Aussies?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

I dont know if this is absolute rubbish or hilarious! But this is definitely shocking on so many counts: How is Khwaja expected to write about how to improve himself when he hasnt played for long? he has never even played on such pitches, he hasn't tested himself in these conditions, how does he say where he is lacking? 2. How about a presentation from the coach about how he is going to have a new strategy? 3. How about a presnt. from Captain Clarke on ways of improving captaincy because that has always fallen short too? 4. If they think that wielding the stick like this will make them fall in line, and 4-0 will not have any bearing on their attitude and mental well being, that too just before ashes....i dont know what are they eating Or is this a new ploy by the Aus selectors by having an excuse "Ohh we fielded a weak/ B side" ?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

A little extreme, don't you think? Especially when you consider that 2 of these players are yet to play a test in this series and the activity they were asked to do was brought about by losses in the last two tests. To me it felt like one of those corporate activities that you do for the sake of doing it. I am all for a professional set up, process and all the other buzz words. I would love to see India adopt these and have the courage to discipline senior player when they get out of line (though I don't see it happening anytime soon). But this should have been handled internally with an appropriate punishment. This sounds like they used an iron rod when only a tap on the wrist was needed.

Posted by SkylaDark on (March 11, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

I think it's good that Australia is enforcing strong discipline; a team that isn't in order can't play well. Hopefully Oz can take back the series from India.

Posted by sitaram58 on (March 11, 2013, 13:34 GMT)

Recommendations for improvements: Khwaja - Play me in the 11 Watto - Make me the captain and Warnie the coach Patinson - Get the others to start taking wickets Johnson - Play me in the 11

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:33 GMT)

This is not a good move. The team in lowest motivation and need a booster. Axing players for a simple protocol they didn't follow is not the best solution. Cricket Australia is digging your own grave. It will spark a new crisis in the Australian cricket.

Posted by goldeneye075 on (March 11, 2013, 13:31 GMT)

wow I think Ausi Management have done a great job, and shown some basic standards to teams to follow. If you are not disciplined you should not be in any team, college or in any team. Disciplined in not in the sense in dressed up or some thing, but in actions. Well Done Australia, even if you lose , need to keep the head high.

Posted by India_ANY_track_bully on (March 11, 2013, 13:30 GMT)

Can't believe how childish this is. Coaching gone berserk!! The first thing I would do is to reduce the coaching staff to only 2 people... the Captain and the vice captain :) and maybe hire a secretary to look after any paperwork and admin. Let the boys play!!!

Posted by espncric123 on (March 11, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

This is hilarious. This got to be the joke of the year. But, I feel sad for the 4 guys who got punishment for not doing their home work. Micky Arthur should realize that he is managing a group of sportsmen who perform the best when they enjoy the game without any undue pressure. Micky Arthur should do the job of finding out reasons and action plan to correct them. Not the players. It only gets tougher from here on for Aussies keeping in mind that they have a huge mountain to climb in next one year. English and NZ cricket fans must be enjoying this now.

Posted by Selassie-I on (March 11, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

This seems a little full on, surely something deeper must be going on here, is it a case of Auther trying to regain some lost control over the squad?

Banning the VC for a game surely has to be something more serious than this?

Maybe Aus cricket has deeper depths to plunge to before rising again?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

Well, let's not feel too sorry for Khawaja and Johnson. They had 3 days to get a message to Arthur and Clarke. Even if they hadn't played in the first two tests, then they could have written "As I didn't play, I'm not in the best position to give advice". They could have written "pick me!" they could have had a word with captain and coach but they didn't. They knew the other players were doing something to respond and they didn't do likewise. If my bosses said they wanted feedback from me, even if I'm a fringe player, I'd do it. The rules have been set and you have to respect them.

Posted by heretic on (March 11, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

Uh-Oh...this is not going to help Australias in the slightest...imagine the Australian team moral now...kicking out players for something so silly!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

Very harsh on Khwaja and Johnson, who haven't played a single test. It is weird to see but Aussies are clearly panicking. They need to understand they are not that good. Their batting line up is average surrounded around one top class bastman. Their pacers can't do anything unless the pitch provides them assistance. You need swing bowlers to win in the subcontinent; they have one in Mitch Starc, they didn't play him.

Posted by oze13 on (March 11, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

Surely it should be management coming up with the solutions. Imagine, Warne, Ponting, McGrath or Gilchrist being sent home for not filling a form in. I think not. P.S I know Gilchrist would have completed his anyway.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (March 11, 2013, 13:26 GMT)

Australia's slide just got ten times worse. What were these 'infamous four' doing in their time off after the 2nd test? Another series whitewash for Australia looks certain now. This has to rank as one of the worst decisions Clarke has ever made, and he sure has been making more than a few of them recently. If a captain is to blame for poor selection and poor leadership, shouldn't it be the captain that takes the fall?

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (March 11, 2013, 13:24 GMT)

tick tick tick BOOM. Thats the sound of Australia Cricket imploding. Now if only Clarke trips over a cricket ball at the beginning of the ashes, it could be the biggest hammering we've ever given them. Anyone got a new set of bails to burn.....

Posted by A_N_I on (March 11, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

Arthur (Head Master) and Clarke (Class Teacher) had lost chance of winning the series by losing in last 2 tests. Now they have lost any possible chance of squaring it either. Surely the headmaster and class teacher thought its more important to do homework than to deliver when it matters most, the test :-)

Posted by HawK89 on (March 11, 2013, 13:23 GMT)

Do the players get detention for drop catches, being run out or bowling no-balls?

Posted by RaadQ on (March 11, 2013, 13:22 GMT)

Pattison needs rest, Watson isn't much use without his bowling, Johnson hasn't even played and probably wouldn't have, but Khawaja was the most likely to replace Hughes.... oh wait... he's just coincidentally been axed. Seems way too convenient... Now Australia can use the same excuse they did against Sri Lanka during ODI losses, "its our B team only, how could we make a comeback!" What's more shocking is 1. Khawaja/Johnson didn't play, so how could they evaluate their performance? 2. The biggest problem was with bad selection, result=talent*output. If the talent has been minimised, even with 100% output the result will still be below par! Maybe Mikey and co selectors should axe themselves! Would do CA a whole lot good!

Posted by Wild_Type on (March 11, 2013, 13:19 GMT)

Can't help but wonder if such measures would have been taken if Aus were 2 down in the middle of an Ashes series!

Posted by DanTas on (March 11, 2013, 13:17 GMT)

Sounds a bit like the actions of someone out of his depth. With no man-management skills. I agree, let's bring Lehman in to take over, with Justin Langer back as deputy. No co-incidence that WA's recent wins from impossible situations have been with Langer at the helm.

Posted by Gizza on (March 11, 2013, 13:14 GMT)

I always thought one of the best things about playing cricket as a career would be having no essays or reports to write. Turns out I was wrong. This could be a real cataclysmic moment in Australia cricketing history if MC and MA stay there at the top. Before this you couldn't imagine Australia diving as low as the West Indies did (or what happened to NZ recently with the Ross Taylor fiasco) but now it is a real possiiblitiy.

Posted by crindo77 on (March 11, 2013, 13:12 GMT)

Like Nathaniel Hawthorne's quote " Families are always rising and falling in America", the fortunes of cricketing nations are similar. Those in the jeering section ( read Vaughn, Flintoff et al) maybe are deliberately ignoring the recent and not so recent travails of other teams, including their own. The sickening fall of the mighty WI, England's recurrent humiliations,at the hands of Oz in the 90s and 2000s, and their general inability to win or even compete till recently, Pieter-gate 2012, India's 0-8 drubbing and SA's choking. Words used to describe have ranged from 'transitional' to 'downright shortsightedness' and 'lack of professionalism'. Every team has a unique style of functioning; while India's is "let sleeping seniors lie", others may be a tad more aggressive. People at the helm, while they are at the helm, should be allowed the courtesy of doing their job. And gloating at the other's misfortunes is always fraught with risk; for who knows what tomorrow might bring?

Posted by SirViv1973 on (March 11, 2013, 13:12 GMT)

Difficult to say whether this is a bold or stupid decision by Aus team Management given their current position in the series. Although discipline is paramount perhaps some sort of suspended punishment would have been more a appropriate. Pattinson & Khawlja would certainly have played Watson probably would have & serious consideration should have been given to Johnson since he took a 5 for there in 2010. If Wade doesn't make it then I guess Aus will just have to choose between Maxwell & Doherty for the 4th bowler spot.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:12 GMT)

So you are actually telling me guys like phil hughes who have done homework can stay in the team and potentially the guys who have performed better don't, seems like i can get myself a baggy green , i am good at assignments ;)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:11 GMT)

...So the team lost badly and now the leadership has 'mentally disintegrated....in the past, tours to India challenged teams physically, now it's mental, is it? Clearly, this is a poorly designed assignment because the coach/teacher had no plans as to what to do if the 'homework' was not turned in. He ought to know that the players had a right to know beforehand the consequences of not handing in their homework. I hope the players association get on to this ....this is incompetence of the highest sort masquerading as coaching and team building. Sad to see professional athletes having to endure such nonsense.

Posted by Harmony111 on (March 11, 2013, 13:11 GMT)

First of all it is really stupid of the coach to ask his players about how they can contribute to their team. Secondly, it is even more stupid of the coach to ask his players how the TEAM's performance can be improved. It looks like those times when a haggard mauled leader is short of confidence and focus and ideas and looks around with a "Hey bro, pls help me" look. Why is he the coach then if he can't come up with an optimal way to assemble his player into a team? Thirdly, poor Khwaja has not even played a match here and IIRC he hasn't played any match for Aus in a long time. How would he know what he can do when he hasn't even played? He would be still be unsure of himself. If he were to say he would get a 300 then they would call him cocky, if he had said he would get a solid 40-50 they would have called him sans-ambition. 4thly, was this such a huge issue that they were dropped? A reminder would have sufficed.

2001 - Dennis The Menace & 2013 - Mickey Mouse.

Posted by AK47_pk on (March 11, 2013, 13:09 GMT)

All this to keep khawaja out. Watson was going home. Pattison was going to have rest for ashes as this tour is done nd dusted nd johnson was on bench anyway. So frustrated khawaja fell in to trap. There are circles in team nd in board who dnt want to give chance to khawaja. Every bits nd pieces player like smith nd maxwel getting in so a proper batsman like khawaja must be angry nd frustrated nd a couple of good performances here wudve seal his place in team so they played this drama. Have we ever heard a coach asking players how to improve or wat shud we do nd thats too in writing? Wats team meetings for where players can stand up nd express their views. Politics take teams down nd australia are going down fast. Same like westindies went down.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:09 GMT)

What is so great about Australia ? I do not understand. Infact, they have taken measures to Johnson too, who has not played any test yet. Their intention is clear in bringing people and not considering them, like we do. Pattinson bowled well without any support from the pitch. He was also not wayward like indian bowler Ishant. Of course, sometimes, measures have to be taken but taking at a wrong time gives wrong signal. I don't know whether Watson will retire. Having given a vice-captain post based on his merit, now removing at the in-opportune time, is rediculous but high-handedness of the people at the helm only.

Posted by stumpedlloyd on (March 11, 2013, 13:08 GMT)

Pattinson has been the only bowler who seems dangerous on this tour. What was he supposed to write? "I need to pick up the slack of the other passengers on this team?" And what three points were Johnson and Khawaja supposed to jot down? "We'd like more comfortable chairs to warm our bums in the dressing rooms" or "We'd should trot out with more vigor when carrying drinks?" And why is the coach asking the players who come up with how to improve the team? Isn't that his job?

Posted by Bilbo on (March 11, 2013, 13:04 GMT)

You feel for Khawaja and Johnson particularly, as, for example, Khawaja's homework might have read: "Drop Philip Hughes, who is completely useless, and pick me!". Understandable a player might be reluctant to undermine a team-mate in an officially submitted form, and unreasonable for him to be expected to. Its also a bit rich for players who didn't play so far to be expected to basically criticise their peers for under-performing. After all - no one can criticise THEIR performances in these two tests as they didn't play. Overall, a joke!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:03 GMT)

How honest can these players be with Management on their views about what needs to be done. Obviously the number one problem is that the batsmen could not cope with the Indian spin and that reflects on Management' s inability to either select the right players for this tour and/ or ensure the proper preparation of the selected players. A very sad day for Australia Cricket.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:02 GMT)

This is ridiculous. Mickey Arthur's own list should include "I shall not issue absurd ultimata".

The only explanation that makes sense is that he is panicking a little, and overcompensating for feeling insecure in his job. If he thought that Watson and Pattinson were going to complete the lists, but just missed the deadline, then there's no reason why this needed to become a "line-in-the-sand" moment.

(And what were Khawaja and Johnson supposed to write? "The team could perform better if we were selected for the playing XI"?)

Anyway, this now leaves the team in a real pickle. Assuming that Wade can't play, and that Hughes needs to be dropped, the playing XI picks itself: Warner, Cowan, Clarke, Smith, Henriques, Haddin, Maxwell, Siddle, Starc, Lyon, Doherty

The Indian bowlers must be licking their lips; if they can just dismiss Warner and Cowan, then they are into a big juicy middle. And it's a weird attack for what is likely to be the most seam-friendly track of the tour!

Posted by reality_check on (March 11, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

What else could get worse for the Aussies. Oh wait, they could lose 4-0 :)

Posted by Goldking1 on (March 11, 2013, 13:01 GMT)

I bet the Indian team are well happy that James Pattinson and Shane Watson are not palying in the next match. Can't wait to see the line up on Thursday. BCCI, pease follow CA steps for the Future !!!

Posted by msdhoni123 on (March 11, 2013, 13:00 GMT)

how could kwajha and johnson make a good suggestionn. Apart from suggesting only reason Australia lost it because you dont have me in the team. This is biggest joke of the year. Players are getting paid to play cricket not to write some essays. If they wanted to write essays they would have chose to be a lawyer or something

Posted by nattuz on (March 11, 2013, 12:57 GMT)

imagine the indian team coach asking the senior pros to put their thoughts into writing and subsequently some of them refuse. do you think the coach and captain will have the guts to do what mickey arthur and clarke did. on the contrary the coach and captain could be dropped or unceremoniously kicked out!!

Posted by Mr.Lock on (March 11, 2013, 12:55 GMT)

My three points for improvement. 1- Remove Micky Arthur. 2- Remove selectors for not picking the best team 3- Follow Shane Warne's improvement plan.

Arthur looking for 3 points from team, what an absolute rubbish. What is he getting paid for if he can't generate ideas? If he was so eager he could have told them if this is not delivered to me culprits will face severe disciplanary action. Arthur has done something in AUS team that nobody has been able to achieve in decades: RIFT Time to go Arthur

Posted by Sir.Ivor on (March 11, 2013, 12:54 GMT)

I think Arthur made the mistake of thinking that Australians are South Africans who are far too different in attitude to the Aussies.I can understand that he would have been very disappointed with the way Australia lost the first two Tests but this does look a bit over the top even if the said players needed to admonished publicly. Maybe if they had been warned it may have served the purpose. It is a pity that this has happened mid series. Clarke seemed to have had everything under control with his batting having reached a very high level. Indiscipline is a virus which happens over a period of time and the Coach and Captain should have seen it coming. I get the impression that the four players involved here have been violating team discipline and that this incident is just a trigger being used to bring them to book. Not giving a written reply that had been asked for seems to be too trivial for this kind of punishment

Posted by meursault on (March 11, 2013, 12:54 GMT)

This has to stop. Khawaja hadn't even played and Pattinson had bowled his guts out.

Time to sack Micky Arthur.

Posted by docplays on (March 11, 2013, 12:53 GMT)

first "informed player management" and now "make a presentation to play in the team"....leave it to australians to revolutionise world cricket and they never fail to surprise.....

Posted by TomLundy on (March 11, 2013, 12:53 GMT)

Three points, hey? Get rid of Arthur and Inverarity, replace Clarke as captain. Unbelievable.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

Wish to see same kind of decisions from BCCI ...

Posted by JagSparrrow on (March 11, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

Respected King Arthur 3 points to save your coaching career: 1) Respect the game, its legacy and its carriers( their talents). Please do not PLAY with the careers, COACH the players. 2) Do not try any fancy stuffs just to satisfy your own EGO(or to draw out some kiddish hypothesis). 3) Last but not the least, please do not forward your resume to BCCI

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

And All these while I thought it was the job of the coach to chalk out strategies and plans and then tell the players what to do.This is like borrowing the stick from from Mr.X and then go on and thrash him with the same stick

Posted by Manush on (March 11, 2013, 12:51 GMT)

What a decline for the Ausrtalians.!!! We all know after the exit of Warne,McGrath,Gilchrist and Hayden, Australia lost its strength and later Ponting and Hussey, tried their best in rebuilding a team, but under pressure have to leave. Added to this they lost a very valuable player in Symonds for outside cricketing reasons. Currently barring Clarke and to some extent Watson and Warner, rest are all just average players. The current squad is ill equipped with technique and applications and make this paper tigers in home advantage pitches, big. Let us not forget how England and South Africa treated this bunch quite recently effectively.

Posted by bumsonseats on (March 11, 2013, 12:50 GMT)

its a silly exercise during the middle of a 4 test series. so school boyish. england have been in this position many times in the last 20 years,but by memory have never gone to this extreme. in saying this the players are the ones who have let their country down but its a game of cricket, i never saw in their play a lack discipline or will to win it can be hard in india when you know what you are going to get in the next test, which is very much of the same.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:50 GMT)

Who is the Aus Fast Bowler for Mohali Test... Stupid decisions.....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:50 GMT)

Its a big drama. Watson is on due to become father.so he was out. australian management don't consider kawaja & jo. hnson .They wanna give rest to pattimanon To hide the series loss pup & mickey doing a trick here.people will forget the loss after hearing this. watta play pup & mickey.

Posted by BJ21 on (March 11, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

I do hope that Chris Rogers is already getting a plane ticket sorted.

Posted by nulla on (March 11, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

Don't have any doubts about Clarke's involvement. He has said in the course of the summer Watson needs to bowl & prior to this tour, Watson wasn't a certainty for selection. That is. the vice captain a non certainty! Great solidarity especially when previous Aussie teams seemed to convey a harder to get out rather than harder to get in existence. Watson is learning the wrath suffered by Symonds & Katich.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

at the moment OZ need Ricky Ponting, not Arthur. Is Cricket Australia still in control or this coach is been given a free hand on all these things!!!! Captain should be in control not the coach. I don't think there will be any competition in the match. Khawaja and Johnson have not even played a match in this tour, how can they give suggestion! Was it for how to get the drinks and warm the bench more effectively????

Posted by dedel on (March 11, 2013, 12:49 GMT)

Unless there has been some internal issues, this is an absolutely ridiculous decision. The best coaches are always flexible (eg Ferguson putting his arm around Cantona) least of all when it comes to a minor aberration! If there was any previous indiscretions it should have been dealt with internally, where even dropping all four would have been acceptable. This Australian set-up (coaching) seems awfully inept with man-management and tactics. As an Indian cricket fan though, this team has provided a welcome distraction from India's own travails.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:48 GMT)

Team is above individual. All members including Captain are bound to follow the rules and regulations. Cric Australia had showed it before too by axing so many of its senior players, if they are not performing. An eye opener to other teams too.

Posted by wake_up_india on (March 11, 2013, 12:46 GMT)

Team Discipline is more important than any individual player. Can't imagine any Indian team doing this to itself, especially to the Gods in the team. That is the cultural difference between the two teams.

Posted by Jayzuz on (March 11, 2013, 12:45 GMT)

Well, I have long suspected there must be problems in the team, given the extremely poor nature of the administration and team selections during this last season, including the absurd rotation policy and the unbelievable selections within this touring team. This obviously goes deeper than an email not being sent. How can players possibly have faith in the admin with the madness of recent selections? They have obviously hidden it well, but now the cat is out of the bag, and we'll have to wait to see what further revelations come out of this.

Posted by prakdm on (March 11, 2013, 12:43 GMT)

Is Clarke a good leader??.. leadership is seen when things are down in the dump, not when u r winning 4-0, 3-0 etc etc.. definitely watto is not a bigger star than the ones they had earlier, or the ones we had.. Ricky and MSD managed them well to lead their teams to No. 1 rankings. miles to go Micheal!!

Posted by featurewriter on (March 11, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

Something else is going on here. None of this makes sense. Lyon was recently interviewed questioning the strategy and decisions of Arthur. Now we have four players - two of whom are well known as being highly committed athletes (Watson and Johnson) - being disciplined for not returning team and personal assessments. Seems more like Arthur is on an ego mission. He's not winning many friends back in Australia right now. Can we please look at making Justin Langer coach?! I've never been a supporter of foreigners coaching national teams. There are often too many cultural issues at play and too many questions about national loyalty. Arthur's selection choices on this tour have been comical at best. And I'm tired of hearing about the Ashes (from the coaching staff and selectors) - we're playing India. Let's get some focus.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

wow...

this is pushing it a little bit...

Posted by gularan on (March 11, 2013, 12:41 GMT)

Oh me god .I dont know whether to cry or laugh at the oxymoronic antics of the aussies. Instead of all this theatrics and innuendo why not just admit that this is one of the weakest touring teams to come out of australia and accept the inevitable white wash that is in the offing. It is high time that the aussies got their collective backsides whipped thoroughly and who better to do it than mighty india. geo mother india.

Posted by spaldo on (March 11, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

2 nil down, series on the line, yeah I know the best way to bring the team together is to rip the guts out of it, and create a media circus. Clap Clap Arthur, you are the smartest man alive.

Posted by durkheim on (March 11, 2013, 12:40 GMT)

Why was Michael Clarke OK with this? This is surely only going to create further tensions in the dressing room...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

till now aussie players didnt face a seamers pitch... the chance of getting an opportunity is now ended...for india this is a bumper time. ...becoz all players will get into form before entering ipl....so a lottery is waiting for alll ipl fans next month.... i think clarke will resign the job by this series end...becoz its not easy to make up the remaining tour. ....more presssure will be over clark's from now onwards.....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:39 GMT)

A good decision. Very poor from Watson as Vice-Captain. How much the group misses the professionalism of Punter and Huss. They need to get George Bailey over there as fast as they can. He is an Australian Captain, a leader, is just as likely to score as well as Khawaja or Watson would and can bat anywhere in the order. Bailey would also bring some stabilisation to the team.

Posted by robheinen on (March 11, 2013, 12:38 GMT)

I'll say it again: Take the influence of money out of the game & get back to the cricket again. There are too many irrelevant things made too important in cricket these days. So you lose a match. So you lose a series. It happens. So you're not the best cricket team in the world. It happens. The only thing you can do is is TRY to build a team with the odds stacked heavily against you being the best team in the world. There is only one team the best in the world the rest are not. I feel this style of break down build up of a team serves no other purpose than prolonging poor run the Aussie team is having right now. Be a man about losing. Stop being a spoilt child: I WANT IT AND I WANT IT NOW!!

Posted by xsSandy on (March 11, 2013, 12:38 GMT)

Is it an attempt to divert attention to other issues than blaming the team for such a poor performance?

Later on, losing one match can be dealt with this explanation of axing four important players. :D

Posted by Noboundary on (March 11, 2013, 12:35 GMT)

This team management is just crazy. Why they are not doing well is not a secret! They don't bow spin and left out the only good spinner they have, their batsmen do not apply themselves. If the coach cannot point out these things he should be kicked out not the 4 players.

Posted by rustylfc on (March 11, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

Not happy, Johnson hasn't had a chance, Pattinson has been the most effective pacer so far, and Khawaja needs the experience on the tracks in India. Looking like 4-0...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

Good decision by Author.A team will b successful only if all the members in it cooperate and improve themselves..

Posted by Praxis on (March 11, 2013, 12:34 GMT)

Is this for real? The must be more to this incident! A coach of Micky Arthur's experience & calibre could never do such ridiculous thing.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:33 GMT)

Micky Arthur what have you done? Dropping James Pattinson? For whatever reason, he needed to play... I bet the Indians love you right now. Disgraceful.

Posted by Redbac on (March 11, 2013, 12:33 GMT)

Sack Arthur. Appoint Darren Lehmann to the vacant post. His uncomplicated but astute style is what we need. Robbed as a player, Boof would be the ideal bloke to re-establish an AUSTRALIAN culture to the baggygreens.

Posted by mike_b on (March 11, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

I guess this is what happens when you have a headmaster as the head of selectors! It looks as though Mickey is trying to save his own skin and look good in front of the Headmaster. Mickey's been blaming Hussey and Punter for having the selfish gall to retire before actually reaching 40! Now he's blaming Patto, Watto, Glitch and Usman because they've not been doing their homework. How can he possibly be expected to work under such conditions? The poor dear! Maybe accepting responsibility for his own poor decision making/selections, and doing his own homework would help him. He needs to study the difference between short form cricket & Tests.Cricket history shows you need specialists in Tests and not guys that bat a bit & bowl a bit. You must be able to bat in the top 6, bowl in the top 4 or keep well. Go and do your own homework young Mickey, your modern memorised management speak is tiresome and ineffective.

Posted by Kunal-Talgeri on (March 11, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

So many things become clear after this incredible development. One, the Indian tour doesn't really matter with the Aussies in this deprived state. Neither does Shane Watson matter, who anyway cannot bowl for Australia anymore. Two, Australia doesn't need a coach. Three, they don't need Michael Clarke to be a selector. They simply need Clarke out there as captain with the best available team -- give him a chance to apply the kind of imagination he shows us in his batting. Let it be him in his elements, rather than complicating his thinking with coaches. Have a manager by all means. Four, bring back Michael Hussey for one last shot. Which brings me to #5: Focus on The Ashes!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:31 GMT)

Well, I dunno. Rulz iz rulz. But a bit tough on Johnson and Khawaja though. They haven't even been playing. How can they improve their performance? Mickey Arthur has a great record as a coach and seems like a down to earth guy. So hmm... maybe there was other stuff going on as well.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

I beg to differ and completely support the management decisions made by the Australian management team. It takes a selfless and hardline attitude to be the best in the world, and in the same vane as Sun Tzu's Art of War, there can be no exceptions amongst the ranks. Well played Arthur and team. Great standard set :)

Posted by Former_SJCC on (March 11, 2013, 12:30 GMT)

awesome. shows what professionalism is all about. its not about the mail but the principle behind it. as an indian i am sure many indians will feel that this is harsh. but to be the number one u need to take harsh decisions. dont know if india will reach such levels of professionalism ever.

Posted by niroopbhat on (March 11, 2013, 12:28 GMT)

Mickey and Michael might be trying to repeat what Simpson - Border did in late 80s, but the cricketing world has changed since then and players have to be handled in different way. Leaving out four main players who all looked set to play in Mohali is a really harsh decision. Mohali was probably the only chance Australia had in this tour, given the nature of the pitch, and now the Australian squad has only two fast bowlers going into the fastest pitch in India.

Posted by sydneyroosters on (March 11, 2013, 12:28 GMT)

How can Khawaja and Johnson write anything about improving their game when they haven't even played yet?

Posted by kapsy on (March 11, 2013, 12:27 GMT)

This has Clarke written all over it! Clarke was instrumental in sitting Andrew Symonds out of a match once - think it was in the NT. It's unbelievable how arrogant CA and their precious captain & coach are!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:27 GMT)

well i wish some of our(Indian) coaches and managers were able to take such bold and stern decisions...don't know for sure but i think this decision may help the team in the long run...

Posted by sitaram58 on (March 11, 2013, 12:27 GMT)

so they'll go into the Mohali test with TWO front line fastmen, two front line spinners and Henriques and Maxwell as back ups. I guess they have given up on the India tour and have started to look forward to the Ashes. Great opportunity for India to do the same and start prepping for the IPL Better still why not call of the next two tests and scedule a series of 12 T20 matches to be played all over the country

Posted by squarepeg on (March 11, 2013, 12:26 GMT)

This is absolutely unbelievable. Sure, discipline is important, but this is not as if these 4 have been drinking till the small hours and enjoying other fringe benefits. Neither did they lower the standing of the country in the public esteem or deal in drugs or match-fixing. Why can't there be counselling, one reminder with a little more additional time, or a financial ticking off.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:26 GMT)

When Arthur was appointed, I thought he would be good for the team. Now that he has our ranking dropping in all facets of the game, he should be sacked ASAP. He is not a coaches' bum.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:25 GMT)

What on earth is so wrong about Khawaja's attitude?

Posted by AHA-007 on (March 11, 2013, 12:24 GMT)

The problem of AUS is not a team but a poor Coch, look his past experience with proteas. and watch the current SA team without him!

Posted by Green_How on (March 11, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

I will give you 3 points Mickey - your batsmen are woeful and haven't got the technique to play spin, you have the worst spin attack in world cricket and your wicket keeper looks out of his depth. Why you needed your players to tell you this?!! I am sorry but from and England supporters point of view this is hilarious, roll on the summer and the ashes !

Posted by Gordo85 on (March 11, 2013, 12:23 GMT)

Why does this not surprise me at all? Poor Usman he can't have a trick, everyone talks him up and he was almost 100% certain to get a spot in the eleven for next Test but yet he slips up with something as silly as this. It is rather upsetting to have to see Phil Hughes play in the next Test since he hasn't made a single good score on this tour and I can't see it changing. He is the next Bradman so everyone has said for years now but he is only close to Bradman when it comes to ODI's. A typical Johnson though he just never learns.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:22 GMT)

Reminds me of school cricket, when Master in charge sometimes asks you to write an essay on cricket. Cant believe that it is happening to a Test Team and least of all to Australia. Whom we all thought was the most professional team of all test playing nations. A clear case of Coach becoming bigger than the team (of which he is only a part). This happened to India Under Greg Chappell. Now it is happening to Australia under Arther. After Mohali it will be 3-0 India. If the players missed training and team meetings they should be disciplined. But not for not handing over their home work.

Posted by InnocentGuy on (March 11, 2013, 12:21 GMT)

This seems to me like a classic case of "how to pass da buck". Of course they are going to lose the Mohali Test and the Delhi Test now and then Mickey can say, we lost coz players didn't do their "homework" <-- get it?? Coach Mickey, it is NOT, I repeat, NOT, the players job to identify strengths and weaknesses except to some extent. It's the coach's job to identify players' SWOT and come up with a plan to coach them accordingly. This is the most ridiculous thing I have ever seen from CA, or any other cricketing board actually.

Posted by Batesta on (March 11, 2013, 12:20 GMT)

The scariest thing is that we had to have a review to get to this position...... great job there!

I am hoping that this was purely a Mickey Arthur decisions, because if Clarke had something to do with this then he doesn't deserve the captaincy anymore - it is not an imperative that your best player is your captain and if this is the stupidity of his decisions then he doesn't deserve it.

Posted by umairasgharbutt on (March 11, 2013, 12:19 GMT)

discipline first game second.. other boards should learn from CA

Posted by Robin001 on (March 11, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

There is definitely something else going on here...the punishment is too harsh for not submitting the homework...are you kidding.... To me It feels like the team management did not wanted Khawaja to play..maybe due to some previous discipline issue. See what Arthur has to say about other three... "I wish it wasn't the vice-captain, I wish it wasn't Shane Watson and Mitchell Johnson, they are leaders within the team and are very professional"...." I've not ever been in a position to doubt Shane Watson the person or Shane Watson the cricketer. Usman Khawaja is different". I think they wanted to punish Khawaja and not let him play the third test but they could not do so as public opinion was strongly with him. This gave them an easy way out but they had to punish others as well who had not done the homework....Watto, Pattinson and Johnson just got dragged into it....Only time will tell if i am right or wrong !!!

Posted by kapsy on (March 11, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

This has Clarke written all over it! Clarke was instrumental in sitting Andrew Symonds out of a match once - think it was in the NT. It's unbelievable how arrogant CA and their precious captain & coach are!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:18 GMT)

agree with it 100% if the captain can do it everyone else can, if the team think its a good idea everyone should do it. If you have 4 people not do it and not be punished then in the future people wont do what they need to do to perform, and create a very lazy culture in the dressing room. This will turn heads, but it will make sure non of the players are ever lazy. It would take them tops 30 mins to do this, and watson as vice captain should of done a lot better. People who then dis arther, must remember this is a joint decision by the heirarchy on tour, coach captain and selector/manager. Can only be good for australian cricket to be tough, the players need the mental grit they had in steve waugh allen border ponting hayden langer, no one in the current team has the same determination as them, that needs changing.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:17 GMT)

Looks like a gimmicks from Australian side, If lose badly this will be nice excuse to show the world, "Look we took tough decision amidst bad series; we lost badly because the form players were out due to disciplinary actions. "" . A potential strategy for the aftermath?

Posted by ObjectiveCricketism on (March 11, 2013, 12:16 GMT)

Mickey Arthur has made Australian cricket a laughing stock with his silly rotation policy, strange team selections, and now this extraordinary axing of four players for failing to tell him what he should be telling them. The man seems incompetent and should be sacked before he does more damage. I do not know what current Australian cricketers think of Mr. Arthur in their hearts. But I cannot imagine former Australian cricketers taking kindly to a coach who treats professional cricketers like children.

Posted by VAGangal on (March 11, 2013, 12:15 GMT)

For me, it looks to be a drama. They had to drop them. They needed a reason and they managed well. They are trying to play mind games with India nothing else.

Posted by gauravm5 on (March 11, 2013, 12:14 GMT)

Had BCCI implemented this kind of disciplinary measures in the past (2002 - 2005), Sourav Ganguly would not have played for India after 2002. Same holds true for sehwag post world cup 2011. Both were very good in skipping warmup exercises (racing before the start of practice) and difficult fielding drills.

Posted by AdityaRavindran on (March 11, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

Sure Cricket Australia can boast about their importance for discipline, but they need to be prudent about when to execute it. Being 0-2 down in alien conditions with the team shaken mentally and having no clue how to get up and running, is not the best time to implement the punishment. They should either execute a different punishment or time this properly. Without Pattinson, the attack looks really weak. Definitely in hindsight, i'm sure the people responsible for this decision will regret it. I, being an Indian fan obviously welcome this move, but not as a cricket fan.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:13 GMT)

wonder what would have happened if 7+ of the squad didn't do their homework. Dont think it's that harsh a decision really though. Like Moody said, Bobby Simpson ended careers, Mickey's doing a decent job, not good or great, just decent. Although I do believe any coach who's in the spotlight too much is already failing. Gary Kirsten is a fine example of a leader/coach who allows the players to shine and front the media and take a backseat while making the decisions and getting the best out of his team. The dress up party that SA team have each year is a wonderful team building exercise, I know that when I'm having fun and getting along well with the boys off the field we have better bowling, and batting partnerships on it the field. The Aus players don't have much faith in their own techniques against spin and aren't valuing partnerships enough. If their were more players knocking the door down hungry for a place with performances to show for it would be ideal. sadly there's not

Posted by Big_Chikka on (March 11, 2013, 12:12 GMT)

sounds like 1. coach and captain out of ideas; 2. sun tzu management theory gone mad and; 3. indication of future selections.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:11 GMT)

Honestly, can't believe this is the real reason for the suspension. Though its just my speculation, I think it might be a deliberate attempt by the Australian team management to suppress the real reason.

Posted by AzizR_Lye on (March 11, 2013, 12:09 GMT)

I am a Pakistani.. This seems like how the Paksitan management would go about it. When they really mess up they will try to blame anybody else but themselves. In this case CA should regroup and get the best team and try to strengthen where they are weak, but instead they are making themselves even weaker and also now have added even more public pressure and not just from their own fans. The management really are making a mockery of themselves by making huge decisions based on some stupid opinions. If it was due to some players not turning up for some training to improve their bowling, batting or fielding then you can understand the decision. CA its not too late, take a U turn and admit you screwed up and take back the decision. Too much EGO is not good.

Posted by Sivashankar_XI on (March 11, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

Usman Khawaja and Mitchell Johnson would have given empty Notes as homework as they haven't played....

Posted by couchpundit on (March 11, 2013, 12:08 GMT)

This is Michael Clarke's decision delivered by Micky Arthur..... there can be no two ways about it.

The man who didnt have time for team song(& later ensured the player who pulled him up then never to play for australia) and ran to see his girl friend is making decisions about discipline. Way to go CA.

Micky Arthus is the scape goat here.

Posted by shripadk on (March 11, 2013, 12:07 GMT)

Yeah right! Tell use that his stupendous sacking from 3rd test had nothing to do with his decision to fly back home. Why wouldnt he be with his wife? Why would he sit there in the wings knowing he is already out. What is Australian cricket have come down to. They are playing against my team but my god, nobody wants to see it go down like this. I cant fathom even Clark allowed this to happen in the first place. Geez. The 3rd test just became a joke.

Posted by guptahitesh4u on (March 11, 2013, 12:07 GMT)

As an Indian, I was really worried with Watson. I thought he will really make a big score in the 3rd test and he usually does good against India. But Arthur has the solution to all the problems!! I really love it. It would be fascinating to see an australian whitewash!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

i think one man can't do anything (clark) , ponting should come to rescue aus

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

They should bring back Johnson otherwise they will not be able to take up a single wicket

Posted by KingofRedLions on (March 11, 2013, 12:05 GMT)

Seriously? "Gang of Four"? Who came up with that?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

Good joke by Australia. The coach wants the solution from players

Posted by DoubleKickDrum on (March 11, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

I'm sure those e-mail responses will help Australia to an innings victory in the next test...... not. This will not breed the hard-nosed confidence / arrogance of great players like Lillee, McGrath etc.

I think Johnson and Watson are already the finished article and don't need to be treated like school kids.

If there are issues with Khawaja's attitude, drop him.

I hope Australia are in a bit better place this coming summer otherwise they will be destroyed by England. I want to see some tough competetive cricket.

Posted by stormer1980 on (March 11, 2013, 12:03 GMT)

If he wanted that type of info , why not do it as a team then ... honest feedback from team mates is a much better way of doing it , you cause dissertion in a team with notes about maybe other players ... Do it in the open ... see if your team has accountibility ... This reminds me of SA Rugby teams Kamp Staal Draad , where the coach then , did a army like camp with plyers , humiliating them in the process ... All Mickey has done is make things worse for a team suffering defeat after defeat on the sub continent .. Gaining commitment Mickey is done by leading from the front ... Not putting professional sportsman thru a school like quiz ! Im a Saffa fan .. but im hating the way Cricket Australia is falling apart ... If CA is not careful , you could turn into the next Windies !

Posted by Vindaliew on (March 11, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

I'm sure a lot of people, especially Khawaja fans who were hoping to see him eventually get a game, are seething over this, but have some sympathy for Arthur. How hard can it be to just write down three points and send it to the coach? This man is trying to get feedback from the front lines as to what the players think is needed, and some people just couldn't care less. If you couldn't care less about just trying to think about what can be improved, then you cannot be relied upon to care less about trying to improve your game. It's drastic, and might not reap dividends, but it sends the right message. If Gary Kirsten had asked the same thing of the Indians or South Africans I'm sure he would have gotten all kinds of replies, some useful, some not, some downright ludicrous but everyone would participate. He's trying to avoid being an armchair leader like Buchanan, and that deserves some support from the players.

Posted by thinktank1 on (March 11, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

Well it's a good decision. They are planning to have a united team after such a bad performance.

Posted by mcj.cricinfo on (March 11, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

This raises serious questions as to the credibility of Mickey Arthur as Australian coach. A world class coach would not let a situation such as this eventuate. Yes, players have responsibilities, however dropping players for a minor misdemeanor is using a sledgehammer to crack a walnut. I thought things were going rotten with the selection of Doherty and Maxwell in the 2nd test. But that was just the tip of the iceberg. Mickey Arthur has failed here, and is punishing these players and Australian cricket as a whole for his lack of man management skills. Won't surprise me if he loses his job, doubt he'll be missed.

Posted by PACERONE on (March 11, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

Arthur should of asked them to pick their team for the next match.I think that he does not have any remedy for what is wrong with the team.Usman should have an attitude,he has not been treated fairly by CA.Clarke is a good player and captain,but seems to always be in situations that players have to be punished.he got rid of Symnonds.Australia has gone down hill since then.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:02 GMT)

unbelievable!!! despite being an IND fan...i am APPALLED at this, i'd have punched the coach in his face if i had been one of the four,if players come up with the ideas too what do we need the coach for??? Mickey is doing to Aus what Greg was doing to Ind...:( shameful day for Aus and world cricket..and to think i had cheeklily taunted watson & Johnson at the airport on their arrival saying"ur goin home empty-handed boys, good luck for the ashes"...")

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

Wonder what would have been happened if only 4 submitted presentations instead of 4 not submitted?

Posted by pratit on (March 11, 2013, 12:01 GMT)

At first, when I read the headlines, i thought it was for binge-drinking or a bar brawl. Cannot believe it is for such a trivial issue. Reactions from former players really say it all. While self-reflection is a good thing, there's got to be a better way to do it. I am sure all the players actually thought about their performances, maybe not in the way as how Arthur wanted them to write an essay. He could very well ask them verbally one-on-one what they thought- that would definitely have been better.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

How can Usman Khawaja and Mitchell Johnson be asked how they could improve when they didn't even play....

Posted by DaisonGarvasis on (March 11, 2013, 12:00 GMT)

What a Joke. It is the Coach's job to review and find out - on a player to player basis - what is going wrong with the player and what is the improvement required with the player. Now he asks the players to do his job. If the players are to deliberate and decide what are the technical deficiencies and what are the mental demands of each player why would the team need a coach? Yes, you can ask to contribute in team meetings and such but to axe a player for not doing the Coach's job is ridiculous!!! And the Coach says it was difficult decision to make!!! Of course it was a difficult decision - no other coach makes such decision!!! Cricket Australia is heading in the right direction.

Posted by Mitch1066 on (March 11, 2013, 11:59 GMT)

Australia doing strange things there punishing a player who carnt give feedback when he not played . Seam odd to me.

Posted by Barnesy4444 on (March 11, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

I wonder if administrators had to submit homework also? How about a packed schedule with some top order batsman having only none or only 1 tour match prior to a big test series?

Posted by ferrydxb on (March 11, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

Micky is trying to pass the bug. He and the whole team management is responsible for the losses but they are trying to find ways to get rid of this!

Where is the players' association? What's their role in this whole drama?

Posted by puneet_steve on (March 11, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

I think its just about playing the mind games as the Aussies have their backs to the wall.... watson and pattinson are the only few payers playing well in the series.....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:58 GMT)

I think the punishment's too harsh for the crime. Mickey Arthur needs to lighten up! This is not a school game, this is international cricket!

Posted by john53 on (March 11, 2013, 11:56 GMT)

Rofl...somebody tell the oz coach, he isn't a teacher of some primary school kids...

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (March 11, 2013, 11:56 GMT)

@ 2nd_Slip I m sorry mate bu what discipline you and everyone who is supporting this act are talking about ? It was not as if these players had missed practice sessions or were engaged in some late night bar and party and all that. Even then banning them for 1 test would seem harsh, maybe a fine of some percent of their match fees or anything like that. But now, this sort of harsh treatment has meted out to them for something very mundane and trivial. This is not discipline, it is dictatorial!!! You go my way or rather go out.

Posted by The Tall Guy on (March 11, 2013, 11:56 GMT)

Wow. Long live the naughty step.

These guys are professional sportsmen, and treating them like six year-olds is not going to improve their game.

I'm trying to imagine the result if this had been tried with Hayden, Warne, McGrath and Gilchrist.

Posted by Ram.N on (March 11, 2013, 11:55 GMT)

Huge defeats put teams in utter disarray & evidently the Australians haven't escaped that either

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

This is absolutely ridiculous Watson- A very good player of spin and who can dominate on his day Pattinson- Their Best bowler in the series so far Johnson- One of the all time greats of left arm fast bowling Khawaja- One of the bright futures of Aus cricket and hopefully their savoir when it comes to spin First of all they haven't selected a proper test team with Smith and Doherty in the squad and on top of that they are kicking out the best talent they have over an essay? Khawaja and johnson didn't even get a game so how can you expect them to write anything? Aus cricket these days takes one step forward and 2 steps back. Management has to be more professional, this is international cricket and not school cricket

Posted by applethief on (March 11, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

No to be too cynical about this, but could it be just a way of mitigating the performance for the rest of the series? Playing a second-string squad would make further losses seem more palatable, and a good excuse to try out some new players in India. All the same, I like the fact that the management doesn't take a soft approach with erring players, they are meant to be professionals and are treated as such. I wish the Pakistan would do the same, I'm sure we fans would like to see a bit more professionalism and discipline coming through, instead of the whiff of nepotism and declarations from people like Ijaz Butt saying they'e "eliminated player power"

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

Just reprimand the members and get on with the game. No wonder, Micky Arthur was not welcomed in SA. What will happen if any of the rest of members pick up an injury during practice in next 2 days and Aus will be left with 11 members and may be Micky will play himself. Most silly and stupid decision taking in to the situation they are in at present!!!

Nagendra

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

"They could do it in any way...". How about the coach talking to each of them and taking notes? Seems to me the leader did not stand by the players (or there is more to it than has been leaked out). Work with the team during the campaign. Once everything is over, then put in your report and initiate disciplinary action.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:54 GMT)

My 1st XI for 3rd test should be : 1. Warner 2. Ed Cowan 3. Hughes 4. Clarke 5. Haddin 6. Henriques 7. Maxwelll 8. Siddle 9. Starc 10. Doherty 11. Lyon

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:52 GMT)

What a joke. Get rid of Mickey Arthur. What are his suggestions? I really believe that this guys has something against Watson. All those silly comments like "Watson does not deserve a place in the team if he can't bowl". He is class act. There is something wrong with CA.

Posted by HRZV on (March 11, 2013, 11:52 GMT)

Why can't Mickey Arthur tell the team what is wrong their performance, after all he is the coach. OR may be he wants to collect ideas from players and put them forward as his own.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:50 GMT)

There were only 2 automatic selections for the third test - Clarke and Pattinson, and now he gets dropped for something rather silly. I thought Mickey Arthur might be a ok coach when they were hiring in 2011, but the last few months has shown he has added nothing but excuses. Watson, Johnson, Pattinson and Khwaja should just look up Shane Warnes document on how to fix australian cricket (Sacking Arthur is one of the things) and just give Arthur that. Just goes to show how lazy the coaching staff are in this preparation of the indian tour - What homework did they do? none, so they should be going home too

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:49 GMT)

I am waiting for Warne's tweets.He is going to blast the team management for sure.:)

Posted by rustylfc on (March 11, 2013, 11:48 GMT)

If Cricket Australia really wanted to win Test matches, they wouldn't schedule a money making Twenty20 league smack bang in the middle of one of the world's premier national first-class series.

Posted by PkZindabaad on (March 11, 2013, 11:48 GMT)

I still feel Kawaja is been discriminated because he is from pkn

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

Just imagine if all 16 had not submitted the papers................probably the aussie comentators & coaches & support staff would have then made up TEAM AUSTRALIA for Mohali.................but believe me, Dean Jones, Allan Border, Shane Warne & company would have put up a better fight than this team!!!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

Coach Micky Arthur should be sent home for 'Chucking'... Ridiculous expectations and Ridiculous decision. Discipline at the cost of morale of the rest of the players!!!

Posted by Mitch1066 on (March 11, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

Once again I'm annoyed see someone dragging England into this again . Well quite frankly most South African team part from veron are either from British or dutch stock so you could say that not importing anyone. Also you Australian mostly british stock . Now back to real important question it seam harsh to drop someone who was not part of less then standard display in. Australia performances. Arthur may of lead foundations to great sa side of today but they had lots of talents and quite frankly have even more coming through where at moment apart from some decent bowling talents such bird starc cummins pattingson you seam lack with only Clarke being class . Moises henriquez looks like he got future though. You got remember India rare.y lose at home .

Posted by peeeeet on (March 11, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

A bit too harsh in my opinion. Give the guys a slap on the wrist or something. It's not as if they went out partying, missed a team meeting or didn't turn up to training. I can only imagine what was going through Ussie's mid, in that he hasn't played a test on tour, hasn't played test cricket for nearly a year and a half, so what was he honestly going to contribute to this reflection! Now self evaluation and reflection is an important part of a lot of jobs, but in cricket I think this would be achieved in bonding sessions, team meetings and training. Not in a detailed PowerPoint presentation/email/SMS to the coach. Can't see any sense in this decision really, particularly given the situation of the series.

Posted by pvwadekar on (March 11, 2013, 11:47 GMT)

Mickey is just covering his bases, when they loose 4-0 (and they will), he will need some excuse.Now he can say "These 4 players were not serious, so we banned them and that's why we lost, so blame them." Suddenly, west indies & Indian, Sri Lankan teams look good. They are doing some positive things to rebuild their team. I think that Aussies cannot digest the fact that there are better teams then theirs, so this extreme reaction from their coach. How about Mickey tell us his suggestions and then the aussie team executes them and then if they loose, then fire Mickey.

Posted by bundybear55 on (March 11, 2013, 11:46 GMT)

It's about time someone drew a line in the sand. These guys are highly paid "professionals" so it's not unreasonable to expect them to behave as professionals would. Not only does it show a lack of respect for team management, but is also disrespectful of their own team mates..! Some of our on-field performances have been lacking in both discipline and application of late - now we know where it stems from. This is exactly the wake-up call some of these players need..!

Posted by lillee4PM on (March 11, 2013, 11:45 GMT)

The reason he asked for feedback is because he is clueless and doesn't know how to move the team forward. Get rid of Arthur and give the job to Darren Lehmann.

Posted by Apocalypse_EX on (March 11, 2013, 11:44 GMT)

I actually support the decision. The players are supposed to be ready to give their best and think about what they did wrong and how to improve. If they dont observe and take such a small matter seriously how will they observe and take their own game(batting and bowling) seriously. I mean look it says Khawaja and Johnson actually forgot about the whole thing. If they cant remember something so simple how will they remember the various strategies and playing styles suitable and required for each game? Such an task could take 15 minutes max. These guys took days. Discipline is a part of life in every possible way. Arthur cant be blamed for trying to implant it in the team culture.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:44 GMT)

An issue of breach of team discipline should not have made news headlines. It reflects Australian cricket in extremely poor light in the midst of a high profile series.

Posted by masterclass81 on (March 11, 2013, 11:43 GMT)

I like the no rubbish attitude of Arthur. When are people gonna HARDEN UP realise his motives for this team??? Consequences apply in anything in life. The playing group always need to be liable for their actions on and off the field and let's face it, as professionals, to complete a task like that in 5 days is simple. If it can't be done, do they get away with it and learn no lesson??? it would defeat the purpose right???? it's like anything in life.....GO MICKEY!!!!!

Posted by Xaks on (March 11, 2013, 11:42 GMT)

Arthur and Clarke already knew that they will gonna be thrashed once again in 3rd test, so they just created an artificial situation to justify threir 3rd loss... I am sorry Arthur, we being asian are well known to these stupid politics.

Is this a school cricket team? axed for not giving ideas to your coach is ridiculous!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:42 GMT)

Keep up your good work guys. Hope you guys do the same thing for 4th test also. - IndianFac

Posted by sonicattack on (March 11, 2013, 11:41 GMT)

I don't have a problem with players having to identify their own weaknesses (and those of the team) or indeed having to discuss them with other team members. However, if any player finds this difficult to do - and that is not uncommon in all walks of life - then if there is a supportive framework around the team he should seek and be given help and support. I suspect that this crisis is symptomatic of deeper issues within the Australian camp, and the fact that it is aired so publicly suggests that there is more to come.

Posted by JM_RSA on (March 11, 2013, 11:40 GMT)

During Smith/Arthur era, there were rumours about Smith making most of the decisions and that Arthur was sometimes just an "assistant coach" to Smith. So it comes as no suprise when i see OZ struggling.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:40 GMT)

Discipline is indeed key. But is this really a discipline issue? Forgetting to write a little note? Surely the coach could have just walked up to them and ask them about it?

If they were columnists, this would have been a "line in the sand" moment... but last I checked, they're not.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:39 GMT)

I think this is a super example of management blaming the team members for the failure. It can't be the 4 members fault, if they can't convey openly on what went/is wrong.

Posted by flyin2hytes on (March 11, 2013, 11:39 GMT)

Oh really? Is that so difficult to call for a team meeting and have strategies discussed for the upcoming test match? By sacking those four players, the manager inflicting more wound to the morale of the team which is already hurt. Starc is a doubtful starter due to his injuries and pattinson is always the best bet in the pace attack line up. I personally feel, the manager wanted to CA that he did something on his behalf, its because of indiscipline the team lost both tests. Get it right - they should've picked the right team before coming down to India.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:39 GMT)

So, we hired a guy who coached a team that failed at every major hurdle they faced, and talked a lot of smack along the way that all blew up in his face. Now the same coach is doing the same to Australian cricket.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:38 GMT)

"I have never ever doubted, not for one moment, the drive of Shane Watson," Arthur said. "Not for one moment. Shane Watson prepares well. He's very professional and he goes about his business in a very professional way. I've not ever been in a position to doubt Shane Watson the person or Shane Watson the cricketer. Usman Khawaja is different. This will be the catalyst I think for Usman Khawaja to realise we're pretty serious in the Australian cricket team. Yet he choose to drop Shane Watson and others,that is a stupid move!! The management should be disciplned too for the teams poor performance!! To answer the coaches request i would write let me play and give me a good run in the middle if i were Mitchell Johnson and Usman Khawaja !!

Posted by crazyworldthis on (March 11, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

One Word - HILARIOUS. I wonder if the coach wants everyone to be like him, then who will concentrate on playing. Coming up with plans and getting everyone on board is the job of the coach and captain. I wonder if Mickey wants to play the blame game so he doesnt get blamed after returning home. Anyway, very funny

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

With regards to discipline, Australian leadership team has done the correct thing by taking a no-nonsense approach...but i also agree that the coaching and management staff is paid for the pre and post match planning, analysis and action plan...then why are they enjoying a holiday while the players are strategizing for them? Clarke's statement that he wanted the players to look into the mirror and come back with ideas and plans is absolutely good.....but did the coaching staff also reflect upon themselves?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:37 GMT)

Punter, Haddin, Katich...McG and few more called in for cover...Tough Times for India as the Old Oz team returns..haha..

Posted by Arrow011 on (March 11, 2013, 11:36 GMT)

I have noticed that Australian cricket is good in punishing talented players with frivolous reasons, for example Andy Symonds who was blossoming as a test cricketer was shown the door for "Gone fishing" episode. Prior to that Warnie lost vice-captaincy due to SMSing an English nurse (Warnie was mentally strong so he still performed without any mental block of losing Vice captaincy), then this issue of not sending a presentation on time, in the last 2 incidents Micheal Clarke's hand is there. M.Clarke was the one who influenced Symo's ouster as then vice captain under Ricky ponting. Australian cricket needs be ruthless towards opposing teams but they practice against their own & lose out on talent. This time it will be 4-0 loss for sure. It is time India shows no mercy to the kangaroos.

Posted by mthw on (March 11, 2013, 11:36 GMT)

People here saying the players are adults not kids, for an excuse for the players not doing this.. In fact its the other way around, they are adults, and were asked to do a very appropriate task by the coach and didn't do it.. they are adult enough to know what is expected of them, and they should know its important, they are professionals for crying out loud... They just were humiliated in the last test a few days ago, I think its right they do some self assessment...

When will the public realise that its not all the coaches/selectors/captains fault that Australia keeps losing matches.. The players have to take personal responsibility themselves...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:35 GMT)

well India have left aussies with nothing..................they have almost made them to give up the leaders who almost ruled the world of test cricket are now traped in a cycle where there is no escaping only 12 players are left and if wade gets out its all over if they bring new players,they do not have any idea about the conditions......................the aussies are making a hole for themselfswith james pattinson and michel johnson out they have weakened their bowling on their own...........they dont have any varity now.....the indians have played all their bowlers and known their weaknesses..................a think the nightmare for the australians will danger even more

Posted by SettingSun on (March 11, 2013, 11:35 GMT)

Congratulations to Mickey Arthur on doing exactly what I thought he would do - making Australian cricket an absolute laughing stock. What next? David Warner suspended for an ODI for not balling up his socks correctly? Nathan Lyon fined for not liking Citizen Kane?

Posted by NS74 on (March 11, 2013, 11:34 GMT)

A contrarion view of the episode ; Except Khawaja, everyone has lucrative IPL Contracts. This is just the beginning of the IPL phenom. Batsmen and Bowlers are unavailable just prior to IPL and come IPL, magically everyone is fit.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:34 GMT)

Victory won't taste as great as it would have been facing Pattinson bowl his heart out on the Mohali pitch. And you don't feel much when you take the first wicket and see Hughes walking out into the middle. You're like - well, that won't take long!

The only good here is that Khawaja has Watson with him in this mess. Looks like these are the only four players who believed that homework assignments (to help do the coach's job) do not win Test matches. Players with heart do.

And still no Johnson, are you kidding me!

Posted by Mervo on (March 11, 2013, 11:33 GMT)

This has to be the end for the current management group. This is not a high school trip. For goodness sake Kawaja and Johnson did not even play, so how can they write 'three points' they can improve on on the second test performance? This is childish stuff and the selectors and management team have to go.

I for one - will not be following the next Test for this reason. I have followed all of Australia's Tests for 40 years. Johnson and Kawaja should both move to New Zealand where they would be playing and respected.

Posted by Big_Maxy_Walker on (March 11, 2013, 11:32 GMT)

Arthur says people have been cutting corners, pot kettle black. rotations? bad. selections? terrible. strategy? even worse. and why is khawajas attitude questioned, without quotations. I really do see there seems to be a push by the cricketing media to blame ussie for everything, even when he hasn't played a game. first his fielding and running between wickets are questioned when hughes, Watson and cowan and others are just as bad or worse. then hes only given one game or two at a time to establish himself when very mediocre players like cowan and hughes get test after test after failing more often than not. and now hes being singled out here, without a quote to prove it. not happy at all to be an aussie fan atm

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:30 GMT)

When will India do such a thing?????? Hats off Australia ..............I am sure you will get the bowlers to come back roaring at our flat track bullies. This is the attitude expected of world class sporting organizations be it German football or be it Aussie/ South African cricket. If this is not done then Australia will go the way of West Indies. Already this tour is showing Aussies as weak as maybe the Ashes series in 1978-79. It will not happen I am sure. Probable replacements: Hilfenhaus, McDermott, Bollinger, White, and Haddin to replace Wade, which was anyway expected. With the bat, why not give a chance to Shaun Marsh to open?

Posted by hycIass on (March 11, 2013, 11:30 GMT)

@SteveOlsen i share your frustration mate, what does Khawaja have to do a game, just 1 game. @mzm149 many folks are wondering the same thing as you. This is actually ridiculous and a sign that the coach is hopelessly all at sea with ideas on how to wrest back some cricketing form. Self assessment presentations? Cringe-worthy! The national cricketing side has for too long not allowed enough scrutiny of the senior managers and coaches for perfomance failures. The talent of the squad is indisputable - it takes a good manager to command the respect of the players, inspire confidence and get them to perform to their potential. This is the precise opposite of that. If Mickey still has the job after an already stillborn Ashes campaign - then I won't be alone is losing all confidence in Cricket Australia.

Posted by HatsforBats on (March 11, 2013, 11:29 GMT)

Firstly, Johnson & Khawaja haven't played, why ask them about personal/team performance? Secondly, isn't it the coaches job to identify & determine what is required to improve performance? It is painfully clear that Arthur is not up to the job (as most of us thought when he got the position). Lets not forget Michael Clarkes role in this fiasco: he believes it will be to the benefit of team unity and morale by dropping players from the squad for missing a homework deadline. Not match fee fines, not a public dressing down, not extra training sessions...no, in Clarke's mind nothing but the removal of 25% of the playing squad would send the right message. They have drawn the line in the sand, and they will rue their decision. I'm having flashbacks of a teary eyed Kim Hughes publicly acknowledging the disintegration of team support. Dark days ahead I fear.

Posted by o-bomb on (March 11, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

As Khawaja hasn't played yet in this series what could he have written as suggestions on how his personal performance could have been improved?

Posted by Booopathi on (March 11, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

Is this a new way of rotation policy by Australian team management. What happened if 5 or 6 players didnt turn in the report. Then they wont even have a playing eleven.

Posted by JM_RSA on (March 11, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

What did Pattonson do wrong? he picked up 6 wickets, he should be exempt from submitting silly homework!

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (March 11, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

A lack of discipline, a lack of skill. This is just the final straw for the most useless side ever to wear an Australian shirt. They might as well just get on the next plane home.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:28 GMT)

I think this is a super example of management blaming the team members for the failure. It can't be just the 4 members fault, if they can't convey openly on what went/is wrong.

Posted by tooty99 on (March 11, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

What a joke. Maybe the selectors should submit three reasons to justify there poor decisions. Get Jeff Lawson into ACB management. There's a guy who tells it how it is and knows how to deal with it!

Posted by FinalSayWithJJ on (March 11, 2013, 11:27 GMT)

Bout time we serious withthese over paid players think they are above the rules give some young guys a go who play for passion and spirit... we should send Faulkner, Joe Burns and Luke Pomersbach... And send Watson to the IPL for good we dont need him...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

wht rubbish iz dis johnson aus deserved bowler to play atleast 2 out of 4 has not played even one in 3 ridiculous.....

Posted by Simoc on (March 11, 2013, 11:26 GMT)

In retrospect I hope this is taken seriously By CA. Sack the incompetent coach now. Never liked by anyone but the media for his inane responses, he has given nothing to Australian cricket. Understandably since he is South African. Cricket tests need to be taken seriously and not on the whim of a coach, disliked by all and sundry. SA are a top cricket nation due to their players, Smith, Steyn, Amla etc. Mr Arthur just hasn't cut it with anyone but the interview brigade. He is weak, uninspirational and needs to coach teams like Ireland and Kenya to prove his worth.

Posted by Prashjain on (March 11, 2013, 11:25 GMT)

Such decisions should be taken to show that the team management is serious but they cannot be taken in isolation. If any player ever break the rules or not meet expectation should be banned/treated the same way.

Looks like Australian team will now have not much to do to select their playing 11!

Posted by Knibby66 on (March 11, 2013, 11:25 GMT)

What a good decision. The Aussies should realise that they are not at the top of the tree anymore. It's one thing being feisty and stubborn when you are winning but they are seriously underachieving at the moment. The sooner the players buy into both self and team responsibility, the sooner results will improve. The coach was giving them all an input rather than lecturing them, surely they should embrace that rather than just having their 3 day break and ignoring the teams underperformance. I think the Aussie backlash on here is purely because they have a foreign coach, open your eyes fellas, you REALLY need to listen and learn from him if you want the Ashes back...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

Yes, everyone is shocked and everyone wants to make a wise crack at this embarrassing incident. Can we move ahead now and figure out what went wrong and how to fix it? Were the players warned about the significance of this assignment, or were they informed about the punishment before hand? Going by the grave seriousness of this issue, it looks like there has been a divide between some of the players and the management. So why did they not try to fix it? I mean, how hard is it for a coach to go talk to a team member and sort out the issue? The management would have surely been wise enough to anticipate the repercussions, but still they felt imposing a punishment is the need of the hour? Wow, that just sounds like ego doing its job. Read this wonderful blog post on alpha male leaders, their positive and negative mindsets and their impact on the team by Paddy Upton, the mental conditioning coach for the Indian cricket team during the 2011 world cup.

Posted by gav007 on (March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

Hmmmm, if the coach wants the players to do all the thinking for him why is he there

Posted by JM_RSA on (March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

I am a Saffa and i have never regarded Mickey Arthur highly. He failed to win anything with Steyn, Ntini, Morkel, Kallis and Harris as the bowling attack. The batting attack of Smith, Amla, Kallis, AB & Prince has not changed much. That bowling attack is still better than any other (except maybe SAs current) and the batting is still the same, so i dont understand how OZ hired him. The only notable thing he done was to win a test series in OZ. Oz better get another coach fast if they dont want to slide down further down the rankings.

Posted by mondotv on (March 11, 2013, 11:24 GMT)

Starting with 1st test they mucked it up - you cannot rely on pace in India. What did they need to put on paper. You need to apply pressure from both ends with decent spinners. I'm not convinced Australia has 2 test class spinners in the country. Nathan Lyon couldn't bowl us to victory on day 5 in Adelaide - but he an Dougherty needed to be picked from day 1. Watson as vice captain needs to contribute, but guys that didn't even play the first two tests? I think the team has harder disciplinary issues to tackle like off and on field behaviour before "drawing a line in the sand" about things that every journo and commentator has already told them. You made selection errors and it cost you dearly and the momentum is gone.

Posted by gemmy123 on (March 11, 2013, 11:23 GMT)

Its probably way past time for Australian cricket to wake up to its realities. Listening to their media and some of the fans there is a massive assumption that there is some form of Aussie manifest destiny when it comes to cricket. Well, put simply, you had some fabulous players whose ability outshone their professionalism but those days are over, and the only way this generation will get to the top is through shedloads of hard work and tough decisions. Whether this move is going to help or not, i'm not to sure - but at least its the start of a process to 'Get Real' and rattle some cages.

Posted by Umair111 on (March 11, 2013, 11:22 GMT)

There is more to it.Watson has left India for AU.This is just appauling,like workplaces where there are meetings after meetings like dates.This is counterproductive & will bite Australians in the back.Whole world is laughing,I am from PK & I will be telling my friends.Discipline is one thing(Line in the sand) & modern day management is another.If the discretion was drinking or drugs related it is understandable but this is abhorent.The back to back Ashes lose starts from here.It has been 5 yrs since,there is NO spinner of Warne Calibre & transition for 5/6 yrs.Transition max. goes for 2 yrs!!!

Posted by py0alb on (March 11, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

Next we'll hear they didn't want to sing the Cricket Australia corporate song every morning over breakfast!

Posted by MrCricket_Eng on (March 11, 2013, 11:21 GMT)

Firstly @2nd_Slip What a silly comment saying the England Imported SA to make the successful. Not one of their bowlers are from SA the best batsman is not from SA soooo Time to rethink.

About the discipline I don't really have a problem with players getting axed for not doing what was asked of them. I wonder if everyone disagreeing with this just a sign of the times as discipline now day is seen as bad?

To play test cricket I would a 1000 page essay everyday.

Posted by palla.avinash on (March 11, 2013, 11:20 GMT)

Hahaha this is really going to be dhoni all Indian players and England fans and cricketers would be laughing .How can clarke agree with author he was part of make symonds and katich out of the team is he now trying to be monarch are what.Author it is your duty and other coach duties to find the players need to do and coaches need to improve test cricket.Presentation nonsense if the coach india ask our players our players would be wondering how to write a presentation than preparing themselves for next match with no pattinson pujara and openers will be scoring the runs from the first session itself.i cant stop laughing seeing at this clarke don't be so hard on players make them feel safe u cant be no1 team and players ponting or sachin or warne in a daynor week it will take couple of months to improve the skill level be patient and author stop this nonsense and do u work first properly

Posted by Hardy1 on (March 11, 2013, 11:18 GMT)

This is pathetic. Having a serious approach is one thing but a regular dressing down would do, & it's especially harsh on Watson, Pattinson & Johnson if they've never had attitude problems before, as Khawaja is alleged to have had. To be honest all four of those players should have been playing in the fourth Test, now they're going to have to play Hughes who's been the worst player on either team & Starc who got hammered in the first Test. Not to mention Watson's looked in good nick despite the absence of big scores so good luck to Australia I guess.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:18 GMT)

It's Simple"

COACH and CAPTAIN - Do not want to take blame of media or any pressure or unwanted comments from FANS, MEDIA and COUNTRY.....

So they made this plan.... I am Serious on this assumption !! Think from their perspective (Coach and Captain).. The best way to save one's **

If they lose next matches or if even one is drawn, Australia will lose the series... and at that time.. this will save them !!

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (March 11, 2013, 11:18 GMT)

@ 2nd_Slip I m sorry mate bu what discipline you and everyone who is supporting this act are talking about ? It was not as if these players had missed practice sessions or were engaged in some late night bar and party and all that. Even then banning them for 1 test would seem harsh, maybe a fine of some percent of their match fees or anything like that. But now, this sort of harsh treatment has meted out to them for something very mundane and trivial. This is not discipline, it is dictatorial!!! You go my way or rather go out.

Posted by SantoshNemani001 on (March 11, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

What if all of a sudden Indians loose there concentration and loose the 3rd match or 3rd day against some Disciplined Paperwork teams? Then Arthur will be praised and every team will follow him.

Posted by blink182alex on (March 11, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

When i heard indiscipline i thought they had been out boozing and turned up to the training session hungover or something. This is a load of rubbish, a presentation! Come on, if Arthur wants reasons as to why we lost in the 2nd test how about because you've picked the wrong team and the wrong squad for the tour.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

Incredible!.Professional sportsmen being treated like kindergarten children.Is it any wonder our cricketers are playing like under elevens in India.Micky(mouse) Arthur and the selectors on this tour should resign for the good of Australian cricket

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:17 GMT)

Well that's one less opener in the top 4.

Posted by gamespplplay on (March 11, 2013, 11:16 GMT)

Very very disappointing. My only question to the Aussie management is - Will you sack MC if you get thrashed in this series? You are already half way there!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:15 GMT)

I expect that the point of the exercise was that the players were supposed to have a good hard look at themselves. It was probably more about the self-awareness and willingness to contribute than the actual feedback. If they cannot be bothered to do the exercise then that does tend to show an attitude problem. It is not like they have to go to work in between training sessions and help get the kids to school. Four days to come back with three points is not much to ask. The punishment is probably over the top. Could they not have just made them carry everyone else's bags for a day or two, or clean their kit? The military is full of examples of senseless, somewhat childish punishment aimed at building teams and enforcing discipline, and they usually work.

Posted by shiv_mishra on (March 11, 2013, 11:13 GMT)

Wow!! You are going to bowl on Most Seam friendly pitch in India and you excluded your best bowler from the team. Great going coach! Now everone will know how ruthless you are expect the people who should ideally know, the Indian batsmen.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:13 GMT)

good mssge for indians as well,especaily sehwag and ishant,,now in 3rd test nathan lyon should play and steve smith can replace shane watson,,IND shuld not relax and make it 3-0 at mohali,dhoni's 200 ceratily changed the momentum,shikhar dhawan shuld get chance as an opener,jadeja shuld look in to his batting credentials,he cant be there only for his bowling,,mohali has been a pitch favoring fast bowlers,last time when these two sides met IND escaped with narrow 1 wicket win thanks to LAXMAN and ishant sharma for that 9th wicket partnership,,ojha can come in for harbhajan,considring in experience in the AUS batting line up..

Posted by Spike85 on (March 11, 2013, 11:12 GMT)

Arthur is the one that hasn't done his homework, time to stand him down before we become the laughing stock of the cricketing world- opps too late for that.

Posted by Sheikasif on (March 11, 2013, 11:12 GMT)

Khawaja shouldnt have been chosen in the first place. he doesnt deserve his spot. when selectors knew that Khawaja has attitude problem, they should never select him. look at India-they have dropped shewag and ghambiar coz of attitude and time will come when they will realise that team is bigger than attitude. Good decison by aust coach and team. you may lose the series but will become #1 in time to come. that is a great example of good decison making..Aussie Aussie Aussie

Posted by bobagorof on (March 11, 2013, 11:12 GMT)

1. Field better 2. Score more runs 3. Take more wickets

The dropping of Pattinson is a huge mistake. I understand that they feel they need to put their foot down, but dropping your leading wicket-taker because he didn't complete his essay on time (could he have asked for an extension, Sir?) makes the team look like a joke.

It's a good thing they clarified that Watson is going home to be with his pregnant wife, and not because he didn't do the homework - though he didn't do the homework, and "the team management was not prepared to accept such laxity". So that clarifies that... not!

Presumably this means that Steve Smith will be fighting Wade for a batting spot, as Haddin is almost guaranteed a position. Starc will also have to come in for Pattinson.

Posted by Evangelyst on (March 11, 2013, 11:11 GMT)

Might be a trick to make the Indians feel complacent. They will relax thinking world class players like Pattinson and Watson are out. Aus team management will then spring a surprise by pardoning them and including them in the team at the last minute as a compromise is worked out and Indians will be caught on the wrong foot. Don't get fooled India. Stay focused on winning the next test too.

Posted by Fan1969 on (March 11, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

LONG LIVE Mickey Arthur....may you become a legend for this.

Wow. Dropping James Pattinson and Watson in Mohali, the most suitable pitch for Aussies, for not writing an email in time!

I am not able to believe this. I pinched myself ....but then CA will create history.

Australia have never lost 4-0 or more except to South Africa's great team in 1970 (Barry Richards, Graeme Pollock, Eddie Barlow, Mike Procter etc). Even when England beat them heavily in any series, Australia always managed to win 1 test out of 5/6

To imagine that this Indian side with newcomers like Pujara, Kohli, Ashwin, Bhuvnesh, Jadeja, Vijay with struggling established players like Tendulkar, Harbhajan, Sehwag and Ishant will beat any Australian side 4-0 will be a moment to cherish for Indian fans. Even Dhoni's captaincy was under fire recently.

BTW India has never managed a victory margin of 4-0 or better. WHAT HISTORY!!

CLARKE's and ARTHUR's return gift to INDIA. Most Welcome, will take it gleefully!

Posted by kunderan on (March 11, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

Spot on Josh! Pattinson bowled his heart out under hot conditions which would have caused a breakdown in anyone not so amazingly fit and strong. I think Mickey should have had the courtesy to at least ring the players and ask 'what happened to your presentation?', at least in the case of Pattinson. He is also a very decent batsman and should come higher in the order. As an Indian supporter, despite the obvious relief, I do feel sorry for him. Watto is a dangerous player who looked good in every game till he got out!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:10 GMT)

All these measures could have been taken after they went back to Australia drawing a blank when they will have an Argus report to answer to.Arthur and pup have got their timing awfully wrong.Khawaja's career is over.Watto and James are already injury prone and now that this being done to them,Australian cricket is at the doldrums

Posted by vellupillai on (March 11, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

Watson,khwaja,pattinson,johnson could have told any of the indian scribe or even hotel waiter to do it for them,everyone knows a point or a THREE on how to improve Aus performance.

Posted by vvvvvvv on (March 11, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

I think Watson and Pattinson should also be suspended for the Ashes. And sent on a Windows course instead. If they really can't get their spreadsheet figures right, what place is there for them in a modern cricket team? My three suggestions would be: 1) Sack Mickey Arthur 2) Sack Mickey Arthur and finally 3) Sack Mickey Arthur

Posted by tofazzel on (March 11, 2013, 11:08 GMT)

Really found to be a silly and kidding situation after two defeats . 4 players of team Australia are conformist at time! Poor team management of the class 1 side . Just shocking. Bad signal for others

Posted by Edwards_Anderson on (March 11, 2013, 11:07 GMT)

This decision is not acceptable. I will be phoning Cricket Australia tomorrow and so should everyone else. This is the biggest mockery of all time. Touchy feely stuff. It's the coaches job to have the ideas.The coach has to go. He is an out and out wrong man for the job. I feel especially bad that Khawaja will not have a chance before the Ashes series. They dropped him after one ODI when he was run out unluckily, And then they didnt pick him again. Watson is coming home early and you can bet it has alot to do with this incident. Pattinson was our best bowler and now he is not playing.

Posted by drnaveed on (March 11, 2013, 11:05 GMT)

it should actually be the Aus selectors and coaches that should be dropped or should adopt a rotation policy , instead of the players. Aus team already under pressure in India, and their coach mr arthur is further adding pressure on the players, this is ridiculous. just look on selection matters ,a bowler of starc 's caliber was dropped from a playing eleven, and so was their number 1 spinner lyon. instead , coaches and selectors trying to get this stong Indian side out twice on their home pitches with spinners like maxwell , doherthy which have no class at all. but their is no one to ask from the Aus coaches and selectors for these blunders which they have so far made in the first 2 test matches , isn't so ???????.

Posted by VJ_Cricket on (March 11, 2013, 11:05 GMT)

this is hillarious to say the least. i honestly caanot see the logic of ppl who are agreeing with this...act!

having a clear mind to what to do in the field is one thing, asking for a players idea of game plan is one thing, but sending home 4 players, 3 potential match winners in them is beyong belief.

i know reactions have been pouring in from all directions, but leave the atheletes to do what they do best.... PLAY THE GAME!!!

Posted by ADARSH100 on (March 11, 2013, 11:04 GMT)

a good decision from mickey arthur..he had taken a good strategy to achieve the team's objectives rather than hammering HIS ideas on them... A team will b successful only if all the members in it cooperate and improve themselves... and Arthur needed that.. pity for those players.. Aussies will definitely lose the PACE of Pattinson..axing of Watson is good for team as he is out of form in batting and he wont bowl...

My team for Aussies is COWAN,WARNER,CLARKE,SMITH,MAXWELL,HENRIQUES,SIDDLE,DOHERTY,LYON,HADDIN,STARC.. except Hughes all players..

This team is immense in spin,pace and allrounders .

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

Discipline is the key factor for any Team Effort, and if they were not following what they have been asked for, I guess it's the good decision to axe 'em. And to do it publicly is better, so that other players will be watchful in future.

Posted by Batesta on (March 11, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

Line one of the essay - get rid of a ridiculous coach...... please JL help us out!

Posted by Bluenut on (March 11, 2013, 11:03 GMT)

What a joke, how can Australia expect to win the ashes with this management group. Their adults not kids. Maybe the coach should be working out why they under performed or pick a team that can win in the Indian conditions.

Posted by recycle-bin-is-empty on (March 11, 2013, 11:02 GMT)

As much as I dont want to see Australia the former superpower in cricket becoming another West Indies, it seems like Aus are already on their way and following their footsteps much more sooner than expected. Ridiculous selections, politics and now this!!! Follow the rules of coach, no matter how mundane they are or get sacked in the name of discipline. Poor Pattinson, the guy bowled such a beauty in the last two tests and yet gets dropped for not filling out a form!!! Johnson adn Khwaja have yet to play even a game! I think our Indian cricket is fortunate to not have a coach like him.

Posted by guptahitesh4u on (March 11, 2013, 11:02 GMT)

Mickey should also publish the list of improvements suggested by other players. It will be interesting to see what has been suggested by few "key" people like "hughes", "Doherthy" , "Smith" and "Lyon"!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 11:01 GMT)

I think Aussies have really succumbed to the media and former cricketers lambasting their perfomance .They just want to be seen as doing something .The bizzare thing is the players who have been axed for not doing their presentation Pattinson was the best bowler for Aus in this tour . I dont understand what exactly he needs to be presenting. Khwaja and Johnson have been carrying drinks . So do they need to improve carrying drinks better .

Watson has looked very good in each of the innings he has played so far . He has just got out in some unfortunate ways each time

This is the time for CA to step in and stop this nonsense going on .

Posted by wibblewibble on (March 11, 2013, 11:01 GMT)

Crikey! Did they have to do lines too, or was it just detention, I'm sorry, suspension?

Still, anything that gets Watson out of the team must only be a good thing for Aus. Shane was asked to become more consistent and reliable, so he now reliably either gets out for a score between 0-10, or consistently gives it away after getting a half ton.

There may have been a time Watson was good at test cricket, he seems to have more concentration and longevity playing a T20 innings than a Test one.

Posted by briandw on (March 11, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

What's the problem, they had 4 days to come up with 3 points of input as to how to improve their performances, people in real jobs sometimes have to justify their jobs on the spot or lose it. These guys will still get paid. The points of input they were asked for are as much a part of their professions as keeping fit, practicing their skills, drills and any other tasks they have to perform, such as public appearances. After the abject performances they have put in, I would have thought it wouldn't have been difficult to find areas to improve in. As with England in Australia 1986/87, "can't bat, can't bowl, can't field", there's three there.

Posted by PeteB on (March 11, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

Oh my, India will be trembling in fear at out bowling attack. Sehwag would kicking himself that he was dropped.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:59 GMT)

What non-sense.. making strategy and identifying weaknesses is coaching staff's responsibility, they are paid for it... players can contribute but assigning it totally to them shows non-seriousness of the coaching staff... very pathetic decision.. In fact, it looks like they want a cover up for their lousy performance in the sub-continent...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

Ridiculous in the extreme. Never knew why Aus needed a Saffer to coach them, in the first place. Imagine how the team must be feeling. Doing lines, indeed....dropping Pattinson is an outrage. Talk about demotivation!

Posted by SillyMidPavilion on (March 11, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

No Pattinson, no Johnson, no Khawaja, no Watson. No chance in hell of winning the Mohali Test. We'd get better coaching decisions from a panel made up of Gilligan, Franz Kafka, Homer Simpson, and Gaius Caligula.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:56 GMT)

This is definitely a line in the sand moment - Arthur needs to be sacked immediately!

Posted by phunny_game on (March 11, 2013, 10:55 GMT)

So all the young kids in Australia... always remember to do your homework on time... U never know when such habits may come in handy...

Now if India loses or only manages a draw, it will be a disappointment or a missed opportunity for sure...

Posted by Analyst_pisupati on (March 11, 2013, 10:55 GMT)

As a player, I am committed to do my best on the field irrespective of the situation without giving up. As a player, I introspect my game on a continuous basis regardless of success or failure on that day. This introspection includes, learning by seeing from other players of my team and from the opposition team. As a player, I am duty bound to suggest ways and means of negotiating tough moments on the field and / or in the nets to my partner/s. More than this, what need to be done or can be done to overcome disaster looming large or in the mid of disaster, has to be primarily the job of the Coach and Captain. The Coach can solicit the views of players in an informal or formal manner. But punishing them for not providing inputs on improvements is real silly and for me there is something beyond this suspension .

Posted by crikcinfo on (March 11, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

I feel this is just another cheap trick by AUS management to divert the attention of Indian players and distract them. Indians will now plan for the other players who might be in the playing 11 and I bet on anything, these guys will be taken back in the last moment, just to over throw the plans. This is getting cheaper, but dont think will work out.. Good try by the way :)

Posted by Tigg on (March 11, 2013, 10:53 GMT)

So that leaves a best XI of what: Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke*, Henriques, Haddin+, Smith, Maxwell/Doherty, Siddle, Starc, Lyon

With Wade for Smith if he recovers. What a terrifying batting line up. That said, it would be interesting if the Aussies won or drew the test...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

Well well well! This is absolute self-destruction!

The Aussies can hardly afford to drop Pattinson who has easily been their best bowler. Watson has been poor so far, but Steve Smith (who is now almost certain to play) isn't a tested batsman at this level. Khawaja would probably have struggled if he had played so that isn't a big loss, but I think Johnson would've been in the XI with Siddle struggling.

So effectively, Australia have dropped 3 first-team players and are down to 11 eligible players (or 12 if Wade is fit). Let's see what happens next!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:52 GMT)

What a joke. Common coach you are not school teacher

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:51 GMT)

non-sense....they aren't on any psychology assignment man...they are there to play cricket...what a waste of power !

Posted by Bigbanger666 on (March 11, 2013, 10:50 GMT)

@Josh Thomson & Damian Smith couldn't agree more. Aus cricket is becoming the joke of the cricket world.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

The coach and the captain have run out to ideas or is it any management professional office meeting am reading about. Players not selected for giving presentations!!!! Clearly this shows the Aussie team is out of sorts and a bird brain has been appointed as a coach.

Posted by mcj.cricinfo on (March 11, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

When I read that Pattinson, Watson, Johnson & Khawaja had been stood down because of team protocol, I never would have guessed it's because they hadn't completed a homework assignment. Am gobsmacked. Not sure what's going on when the coach has to resort to such heavy handed measures, but it seems to me he's closing the gate after the horse has bolted. This is poor management. The touring party chosen for this tour had showed bad planning. Smith, Maxwell and Henriques are fringe players of the ODI team, and picking them for one of the hardest test tours in the world is just hoping for dumb luck. Doherty is a capable T20 and ODI bowler who relies on the pressure of those formats. He bowls too low and flat and doesn't spin it enough to succeed at test level. His first wicket in the last test match was when India had scored 485 runs and had a 1st innings lead of 240+ and were going for the slog. That he ended up getting #8,#9 and #10 out made his stats look much better than his performance

Posted by abdulqadeer.wi on (March 11, 2013, 10:49 GMT)

This seems to be a case of being more than meets the eye. Perhaps Clarke read the Ian Chappell's article that was on this site a few days ago and is following the advices of Chappelli by being more ruthless. Those commenting about Arthur not being a good coach need to look at his brilliant record with South Africa.Hard decisions and a kick up the backside is what is needed, sometimes, to get a team back on track. The biggest loser of this situation is Khawaja as once again his attitude is being questioned by the management staff. Really hope that he learns from this.

Posted by KGY27 on (March 11, 2013, 10:48 GMT)

Keep treating the boys like school boys and you get issues. These guys are pros and maybe if the coach was doing his own evaluation of the team the guys wouldn't have jacked up. Get real CA. Isn't Aussie cricket in enough trouble without loosing our potential match winners???

Posted by mano.mcse on (March 11, 2013, 10:48 GMT)

I'm an Indian..it's a very great decision by Australian coach as well as captain...I'm really comply with you guys. if you want to win a match you want to be stand united....great job

Posted by Guernica on (March 11, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

I'm English but this is ridiculous and I actually feel sorry for the aussies. Discipline is fine but this just comes straight from some modern management manual. I've had a boss who was always doing this kind of thing and he didn't last because he couldn't get people on board. Why three things? Why not ten things, why not one? It's up to the coach to get the best out of each of his players - otherwise, what's the point in him being there? I can only imagine what Boycott would say about this.

Posted by 2nd_Slip on (March 11, 2013, 10:47 GMT)

What a shame!! Fans calling for the coaches head is not the right way to go. Aus suppoters shouldnt let their feelings get the better of them. Micky Arthur is no other tom,dick and harry, he laid the foundation working with the current world #1 ranked test team SA for over 5 years.You dont turn average cricketers like the ones at the disposal of Aus cricket at the moment into champion test cricketers over a couple of years you need time and discipline aswell. For qiuck results, do it the English way, export SA born players and chuck them in your setup.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:46 GMT)

If they didn't know how to do a presentation, they should have outsourced it to India.

Posted by Dangertroy on (March 11, 2013, 10:45 GMT)

Well, sounds like the team needs some discipline, but I'm not sure this is the best way to do it. I have a funny feeling that there is something deeper going on here. Perhaps they really, really wanted to drop Watson, and this is the only way they could do it. Shame he took a few others out with him.

So I guess the team basically picks itself now. One of the three spinners to sit out, and Haddin comes in for Wade unless he proves his fitness. Even then, Haddin's a strong chance to play as a batsman only.

Cowan, Warner, Hughes, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Henriques, Siddle, Starc, Lyon, Doherty.

Posted by PkZindabaad on (March 11, 2013, 10:44 GMT)

Ridiculous to say at least! Are these players school boys required to write home works and comply with the 'hostel' rules? Anyway it made my day! But I wonder if 10 players didn't write these home works will they get dropped and blood in new players? But whatever, it is very hilarious :-)

Posted by cosair on (March 11, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

Axing 4 players because they did not do their assignment is harsh and demoralizing to the rest of the team. Surely management has not thought of the consequences arising from such a decision. A pretty poor performance from management.

Posted by AvilashSharma on (March 11, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

And if some of these players stop playing international cricket for Australia and concentrate totally on T20 leagues like Ipl, what will the board do then? You just can't kick some of your best players out of the team. You have to remember your current position, not your glorious past. 5 years have passed and they can't still find a replacement for Shane Warne! And then they throw players like Watson and Pattinson out of the team!! I think it's high time to replace Mickey Arthur and the members of the selection committee...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

How convenient, the suspension of Watson and Khawaja means that Australia's worst performed player in the 1st two tests, Phil Hughes will get to play in the 3rd test. Wouldn't have anything to do with the fact that Hughes and Clarke are best buddies? Arthur is the worst coach we've ever had, clearly South Africa's success when he was coaching them had nothing to do with his ability.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:43 GMT)

What is this? Mickey what went wrong is your job. That's what you're paid to do. Khawaja was never going to be selected anyway.

Posted by satishchandar on (March 11, 2013, 10:42 GMT)

No Watson left the tour. You can't ban players for not doing your duty. And make it public and degrade their image. Black day for players management. The entire set of the terrible decision makers need to be fired without any second thought. If it Clarke was one of them, ban him for a game atleast. This is not the way you treat guys who are sweating it out for your team in the hot sun.

Posted by Damo_s on (March 11, 2013, 10:42 GMT)

Oh dear. Its clear that even the Australian team themselves think they are at minnow status if key players are missing important team meetings to do with the state of the team. How the mighty have fallen.

Posted by Jayco on (March 11, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

I guess it was a test to see who's really thinking about the team, not just going through the motions. Maybe it will help. Thing is though, some sportspeople peform better by just 'doing it', not thinking about it too much. Some players build their game by study and thought eg M.Hussey, some are better off following instincts, like KP, Mark Waugh or Doug Walters. I think Clarke and Arthur are trying to build that Border and Steve Waugh 'no compromises' attitude...interesting stuff.

Posted by ali1472 on (March 11, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

it may be tactics by the CA to pressurise indian team so that they go in for a pitch that suits the fast bowlers and at the last moment they come up with a decision to play with the suspended fast bowlers .. oh, we never know what's gonna happen lets wait and watch ?

Posted by mybatball on (March 11, 2013, 10:41 GMT)

funny rule in AUTest cricket.... what is happening in AU cricket? droping players to make 4-0 loss against india.. nice idea.... keep rocks AU....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:40 GMT)

Over reaction by a coach to be honest. He should be figuring out what went wrong and let the player practice and do what they do best - perform in the middle. You have made Mickey mouse decision Arthur boy. But as an Indian cricket supporter, I am not complaining :-)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:40 GMT)

Aussies seem to have hit the panic button. It's evident in the way they are over reacting to secondary issues. Some of these players didn't even play. It's just sad to see them being axed.

Posted by drdickdixon on (March 11, 2013, 10:39 GMT)

" I wanted three points from each of them technically, mentally and team as to how we were going to get back over the next couple of games" - but isn't that your job, Mickey, or have you run out of ideas?

Posted by chara17 on (March 11, 2013, 10:38 GMT)

Gentlemen's Game!!! Its all about attitude and discipline. Well done Aussie... You make the rules and this is a good example....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:37 GMT)

Ha ha...Really a childish activity from Arthur and Clark...Watson and Pattinson can could change any game at any time...I think they will reconsider the decision and put them in once again...

Posted by m0se on (March 11, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

I'm sure this homework issue is the straw that broke the camel's back. Something is rotten at the core of team Australia. Hussey's surprise retirement doesn't seem "surprising" anymore.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:36 GMT)

what Johnson and Khawaja could have said? They were not in playing 11. To ask what u brings to the side, is ridiculous. Does management not know, for what they are in squad? Do selectors pick blindly. Everybody knows what Johnson can do: can take wickets in bunch, which nobody from AUS was doing. What this reflects is you want to win as a machine not as a human in this gentlemen's game. How can a player "enjoy" his bat/bowl i dont know.

Posted by harshguy on (March 11, 2013, 10:35 GMT)

I wonder what Mickey Arthur was thinking. You have just lost two Tests very badly, the second one by an innings, and what do you do? You drop the second-most experienced player in the squad, the (only) bowler who has been getting you the wickets that matter, and decide that two other guys who could have made a difference will not be considered. Why? Because the guys didn't do their homework. Really? Just because they didn't write three points (they are cricketers, not schoolboys, mind you), doesn't mean you drop them. Make 'em train harder and longer, give them team errands, even make them do room service for a day if you wish, but dropping them? This is beyond ridiculous.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:34 GMT)

After being in controversy for their famous rotation policy in practice for quite some time now, Australia have done it again stunning one and all with this kind of absurd decision ! This is a bit too harsh on the players and the reaction to this might just come out to be a tad too sour afterwards. I don't know what do Arthur and Clarke want to prove through these hard and fast penalties. It might just backfire.Be prepared Australia as each action has equal and opposite reaction.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:32 GMT)

If Mr. Arthur & Co r waiting for Inputs from players to devise a strategy, Coach has turned to be a lame duck. D role of a coach, supporting staff hv to be much debated. There is more to it than wat is out....

Posted by noplay on (March 11, 2013, 10:32 GMT)

Let's suppose Indian players sledge as much as the Australians. I am having a field day with some of the comments when these guys finally play... a field day lol

Posted by RagTagTeam on (March 11, 2013, 10:32 GMT)

I can't see how this can be called "homework". They're professionals, and should be treated as such. If I turned up for work and hadn't prepared for a presentation or meeting, I'd get hammered for it and rightly so! This team is going to be excellent in a few years, exactly because of these measures. Well done CA/Arthur/Clarke - a throwback to Kerry Packers revival of PROFESSIONAL cricket?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:31 GMT)

Drop the bloke who bowled his heart out in every game he has played.

He shouldn't have needed to write anything other than 'Pick ten other blokes who are willing to put in what I am'.

Posted by Mary_786 on (March 11, 2013, 10:31 GMT)

There's no-way I would have submitted a reply to this on principle. These things are done over team meetings where folks get things off their chests, not through work type presentations . There was a better way to do this, & this certainly wasn't it.Sorry, it's the Irish coming out. Look, an absurd request like this deserves the response it got from these four guys. Apart from guys like Henriques & Maxwell, who understandably are just starting their careers which they don't wish to jeopardize, nobody else had the courage to stand up to this. Khawaja and Johnson are really good team players and their state colleagues will vouch for them plus i will repeat what most of you have said that they haven't yet played a match. They didn't get drunk, they didn't go our late, they didn't miss training, what's going on. I just read that Watson is leaving the tour, this can end up being really bad

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:31 GMT)

Tough on Johnson and Khawaja who didn't play in T1 or T2 - seems like a bunch of kids throwing the teddies to me - bereft of ideas on how to cope perhaps? Sad - but its good to see India playing well - wonder how the aussies will do in July when the urn is up for grabs?? No magic bowlers to hide batting failures behind and Clarke aside no magic batsmen Could be a long 12 months for the woeful Australian cricketers

Posted by heathrf1974 on (March 11, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

If this true, then it seems very harsh.

Posted by swift1987 on (March 11, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

Blessing in disguise - Australia will now have sense to play two spinners. Steven Smith is a fantastic athlete and will contribute in some way. Wondering here why Shaun Marsh has been left out, given his terrific IPL record in India and good batting technique suited for test.

Posted by nitsboy on (March 11, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

Aussies will now understand how it feels when u r down and out in the series....u will try to find all the types of excuses and take stupid actions..... same things happen to Indians when they tour down under....

Posted by Beertjie on (March 11, 2013, 10:30 GMT)

So since in the case of Johnson and Khawaja who hadn't been given opportunities, their failure to talk off the field leads to them being prevented from talking on it. Now their attitudes are likely to become worse for being omitted on these grounds. My question is on what grounds will the management be axed? Bring on a 0-4 result so we can see some changes at the top!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

Watson may be harbouring captaincy hopes. Johnson is not happy for being omitted in the first two tests. Khwaja is not happy for not being considered. James Pattinson is not happy because he tries so hard and bowls well but other players are not giving him a hand and Arther making mistakes like dropping Starc and Lyon. There isn't anything more to it.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

Another reason why Darren Lehmann should be the type of chracter the next aussie coach needa to be. Ian Chappell will love this!

Posted by smudgeon on (March 11, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

Tough call...but, I think it was probably right. A shame Patto had to get involved in this mess, but firm leadership is required. We have a bunch of excellent quicks, a ragged batting line-up, and players who have a habit of getting injured doing non-cricket-related activities. Interesting to hear this talk of Usman's attitude...first I've heard of it, I guess if the captain and the coach feel the need to send a message, Ussie - for all his potential - can either pay attention and rectify the issue, or he can turn his back and be yet another could-have-been. It's important that players never develop the attitude that they are bigger than the game. No-one is. To be honest, I see this as a blessing - they might not be world beaters, but Lyon and Doherty with support from Maxwell is as good a spin attack as we could field. Plus, Siddle (meh) and Starc (YES) with Henriques to trundle in for a few overs. Swap Sid for Patto and a shame (in hindsight) we didn't have this in the second test...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:28 GMT)

usmans a pilot by trade, doin lines omg

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

extremely rubbish to publish out this to press. Arthur, now everybody know who is the coach of CA.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

i did't thought i can even read this sort of news in cricket history!! this is Iconic news Lol!! Khuwaja & Johnson did't played yet in India so okay for them but Watson & Pattinson is always crucial member of Australia team and the way Patt. is bowling hes the only one looks like taking wickets till now!! Australia's Coach himself gutted them!!

Posted by mylife4cricket on (March 11, 2013, 10:27 GMT)

Well it seems like its going to be 3-0,anyway goodluck with it Mickey!

Posted by B.C.G on (March 11, 2013, 10:26 GMT)

They had 6 days i.e. 24*6=144 hrs.Couldn't they even spare a minute to text an SMS.

See it this way;after the terrible loss;the team had a serious,honest meeting & everyone promised to send in their inputs,plans,etc.Everyone including the big-show did so.It seems these 4 weren't serious abt it or just didn't care

If the big mouths feel they are very good at coaching;perhaps they should offer to coach the OZ cricket team.Lets see how many will put their hands up now.Lehmann,Warne will run to coach T-20 sides where the big money awaits.This transitional team is not their cup of tea.

Posted by Shasharankin on (March 11, 2013, 10:26 GMT)

You can't axe players because they refused to do the coach's job. Absolutely ridiculous! The coach is the one that needs to come up with 20 points in his presentation. It doesn't take a genius to know that only one point matters - THE BATTERS ARE JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:26 GMT)

I think Arthur wants to make sure a 4-0 loss, team is in deep trouble and they need the team to be united. Such decisions break the unity of team. And announcing these things in media before 3 days, will give the whole team wrong message. I don't think even the best Australian team had this kind of so called "DISCIPLINE". These kind of things should be asked in a meeting, if players have some suggestions they can give, u can't expect ideas from every player, it is also a skill and that is why team has only one Captain.

Posted by doubledeckerbaas on (March 11, 2013, 10:25 GMT)

Mickey Arthur got his job as South African coach on the back of an 'excellent powerpoint presentation'. So he has every reason to take a good PPT presentation very seriously. Perhaps he could forgive someone not including nice slide transitions, but if they couldn't even write an email then surely it's a sign that they are a danger to the team and can't play cricket

Posted by lesley95 on (March 11, 2013, 10:24 GMT)

If the players are supposed to give ideas how to improve their performance, why do they need a coach?? MA has to just put their thoughts into his words and take the credit if at all Australia manages to win

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

Back to school for the Aussie boys !! Aussies going the ECB way for enforcing discipline. Maybe they should have proffered a sick note from their moms for not doing home work.

Posted by HARCOURT_CUMBERBACH on (March 11, 2013, 10:23 GMT)

Discipline and Pride are concepts central to any of the great treams over the years, the really good teams were tough as much on themselves as they were on the oposition, its what makes winning all the more sweeter when you know you have left nothing in the tank on the park and off to give yourself the best chance to win. I see a worrying trend with this Aussie team, they seem to expect to win rather than be prepared to dig in and fight to win.

If any of us had a bad month at work and was asked by the boss to do a performance report, we'd just have to get in and do it. These blokes are professional sportsmen, they do nothing else, and to just ignore this team directive smacks of arogance and ill discipline. I wonder how Messers Chappel, Border and Waugh would react to a player ignoring team orders?

Posted by True_Indian_Raj on (March 11, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

ThankGod Michael Clarke had completed homework or else match would be finished by first day itself LOL :P

Posted by GreenDeviln on (March 11, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

If Arthur continues with this ridiculous attitude, no one can stop 4-0 whitewash of Australia.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:22 GMT)

This will become the good reason for 3rd Test defeat of Australia against India :)

Posted by DonChaminda on (March 11, 2013, 10:21 GMT)

No need to waste time here,some one from CA needs to step in and get rid of MA with in the next 24 hrs and let the players play.Mickey has got no idea what he is doing.

Posted by rohan34mca on (March 11, 2013, 10:20 GMT)

This is absolutely R.U.B.B.I.S.H.!!! Total mismanagement! One fine day when Sachin & Dravid were going strong in MCG, Clarke tossed the bowl to David Warner & I thought to myself - This bloke is learning the art of captaincy! I considered him a foolish choice for a skipper however he proved me wrong. Now I sit back & only be proud of my reading. Your management & leadership skills are tested when you deal successfully with people with controversial character. Mr Clarke: Doing this you have dug out a grave for yourself!

Posted by Farhan166 on (March 11, 2013, 10:20 GMT)

I think its not just Mickey Arthur and its much deeper. Seems Michael Clarke inflated ego has a significant input in it. Seems like Simon Katich and Mike Hussey he is not on good terms with Shane Watson also. He has said more than once in the past that Shane Watson has to prove himself to get selected given that he is one of the more settled player in the team. I also don't think that he likes Khwaja or has confidence in him. Khwaja's chances of getting a decent run in the test team under Clarke are also not bright. He did not selected Khwaja against weak bowling attacks of India and Sri Lanka and deprived him a chance to get settled in the team.

Posted by Fo4r on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

Watson and Pattinson can be understood....but, how come the players who didn't play?? Poor Usman and Mitchel...!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

Isn't everyone missing the point here. It is not about the essays me thinks. Like Dean Jones says, it is something deeper, more sinister. The cover-up is lame though... Aus team management could have come up with a more creative explanation.

Posted by JG2704 on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

Sorry Mr Arthur but I think you're losing the plot there.

Not sure if it's an ego thing or what but 2 of the players have played no part in the series so far. So on that basis - if they've played no part in either test - how can they write things down on how their performances improve the side. If they put what they honestly think down (about other players) it could also cause friction within the camp. If you want to drop players for their performances or for their attitude then that's fine , but for not filling in some sort of schoolboy test is ridiculous. Nothing against Australia but I'm starting to hope that India give them a huge hiding in the next test and Arthur loses his job.

Posted by Zaph on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

Probably the most ridiculous abuse of power on the part of a cricket coach in the history of the sport. The players deserve, at the very least, a right to appeal such a punitive, arbitrary, immature and ultimately counterintuitive decision.

Posted by Skott on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

The players were asked to think about how to become a better player and add to the team. Surely that's a good thing. This is something they should should have been doing already. it should have taken five minutes for them to write it down and pass it on.

And everyone is blaming Arthur. I don't like the guy (Rixon should've gotten the job), but Clarke would have had as much to do with this as the coach.

Well done guys.

Posted by cricket_wins on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

If common sense prevailed, this act of "non-compliance" could have been marked as a black dot against these 4 players for now. Allow them to finish the tour, put in their best for the remaining 2 tests and then get back to Australia. Then they could have taken this matter up in a meeting and given the players a talk. Why would you give your opponents an even bigger chance to white-wash you, on an away tour where you trail 0-2?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

Players need to be judged on their on-field performance and following regular laws off-field. Players being disciplined for not sending notes in time - seems just too much! Isn't strategy-making job of coach ?

Posted by markofcaloundra on (March 11, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

This should be the final straw - for Cricket Australia- the Board should over- rule this stupidity immediately.We have a weak enough team over there as it is.This is management gone mad. Arthur should be sacked immediately on his return to Australia after this tour. Even better recall him now and appoint Lehmann ASAP, put him on the same plane as Haddin. We could win this test with Patto, Watson and M Johnson in the side. This has to be the lowest point in Australian cricket, players being dropped for not writing a presentation, for God's sake!!!!We badly need a clean out at the top, Inverarity, Howard,Sutherland before the Ashes tour, indeed before we throw away a test in India we can win, because of this current cricket regime,which is on par with the British Generals in WWI and at Gallipoli.Not even England cricket would be this incompetant and stupid.No wonder M Vaughan is choking on his tweets.

Posted by CricketMaan on (March 11, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

Haha..the most funniest thing ive ever read. Now Satich cant wait to do his cartoon. I cant imagine such a thing in Indian team, i think the coach will be flooded with suggestions as even the fans will have suggestions and he will be totally lost!! ROFL. England 10-0

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

This is very sad. I don't think the players should be treated like this. The attitude of the coach is unacceptable. The Country's pride is at stake and they should keep these issues for further discussions after the series is over. Currently they have major problem in place and they should look in to it instead of behaving like this.

Michael Clarke should step in do something. Clarke earlier killed the carrier of Andrew Symonds like this and I hope he will not repeat the same on other emerging players.

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (March 11, 2013, 10:18 GMT)

Let's see..... The head coach asks the players who he's supposed to coach, on how they are to be coached. The wicket keeping coach is appointed to coach the spinners. The selection procedure of the spinners has followed musical chairs. They get thrashed by a team who are now no longer lions even in their own backyard. A rotation system which nobody on the continent understands except for the selectors. Yup, excellent preparation for the Ashes. Need to repeat what I'd said after the first test. The Oz ladies would do better, atleast they won a World Cup in India.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:17 GMT)

Is this really a sensible way of building the morale of a struggling team. It does not seem very pragmatic, I'm all for discipline but they are there to win matches and this decision hurts their chances of winning. This line in the sand talk just shows what a arbitrary decision it is. If Watson is a "model professional" and was going to talk to the coach about it they should have had that conversation before banning him, otherwise what is the point of banning a player who apparently has good discipline for a lack of discipline.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:17 GMT)

Given all we know about this issue is contained in this report, some of these comments are jumping-the-gun ridiculous.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Is it just me or does this feel like a futile attempt by the CA to save itself from further blushes by fielding a weaker team.....make excuses about the remaining two loses claiming that their best players were "suspended"

Posted by SRWatson on (March 11, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Mr. Arthur , Aussies are alrady 2-0 down in the series , if you can forget their not complying , Shane Watson , Mitchell Johnson and James Pattinson should be in . They must be in . You can put a fine on them but they must be in , in accordance to level the series .

Posted by MegaSix on (March 11, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

Pls. sack Micky and replace him with Greg Chapell!!!

Posted by Humdingers on (March 11, 2013, 10:16 GMT)

What a joke! Pattinson: "I should have taken all 10 wickets seeing how useless everyone else was" Johnson / Kawaja: "I could have warmed the bench a little better or ran the drinks out a little faster"

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

4-0 on paper aussies.just come n take it from india on march 26.thats all.come on arthur is watto a schoolboy to be punished at the do or die stage of the tounament.as a indian fan of watto i do want him in the playing eleven.wake up ca n put some water on arthurs face to wake him up...

Posted by Fleming_Mitch on (March 11, 2013, 10:15 GMT)

This decision is not acceptable. The Australian Cricket team is officially the biggest talking point in Australian sport even worse then what is happening to the sharks in league... Sacked for not completing a review? I'm all for drawing a line in the sand when it comes to team culture and discipline, but this is hardly the incident to make that stand... Fine them? Yes why not. But to throw away any chance we have of competing in the next Test, let alone winning it is simply lunacy. Khawaja must be thinking what he needs to do get a game, and Watson well how will he every get along with Clarke now.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

James Pattinson was most required specially on mohali pitch but I am loving it. Thanx Arthur.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

Massive over reaction, a fine or some other restrictions but to be denied to play in a test match because the coach can't do his job and you forgot to hand in a piece of paper... Australia just made it easier for India, well done Arthurs.... Worst decision ever...

Posted by t20-2007 on (March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

These 4 'Baby Greens' has not completed thr homework..so let them expel for this match...after reading the reason behind thr suspension...i just couldnt stop laughing...goshhhh..C'mon coach ..take a chill pill

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

Khawaja or Johnson did not play in the two tests that Australia lost. On what basis are they going to comment on improving their performances? As well, does a player have any right to comment on another player in the team with a view to improving team performance? Isn't that the coach's job? Clarke might as well have gone on facebook and asked Australian fans to give feedback to improve performance which would have been better than what Arthur has come up with. Warnie and Hayden are in India as part of the collective brains trust advising and encouraging players. However, Arthur wants individual players to come up with solutions! This guy is is a joke and most unfit for the job. Arthur should face the sack forthwith and let Clarke be the captain, coach and selector. Perhaps that may work. Indians must be loving every bit of the drama unfolding before the third test. Keep it up guys.

Posted by STRAIGHT_TALK on (March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

I may sound cynical here, but i strongly sense that Micky Arthur has got something more devious to this move to drop 4 players out of contention for the next Test match. In a leadership role, he has the primary responsibility to ensure that the existing resources are maximised and any player indiscipline is dealt with sternly and separately. How are Khwaja and Johnson expected to contributed 'technically' and 'mentally'? They didnt playe the first two matches !! The wrong selection of players for the second Test match, now dropping of 4 people and restricting the available squad to only 13......is the coach actually helping the Australian team?

Posted by atpoint on (March 11, 2013, 10:14 GMT)

A disappointing example of poor management and an over-reaction. This will do nothing to build team culture and confidence and will go down in Australian cricket history as yet another damaging and misguided decision. While none of us is privy to the machinations that caused these dramas, certainly the decision to punish so heavily and publicly stems of heavy handedness and ... a lack of management prowess. Many Australian cricket fans, already disappointed with performance and disenchanted with selection policies, can now add disbelief in management capability to their thinking.

Posted by ram5160 on (March 11, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

Am I reading Cricinfo or Dilbert? They are now selecting players based on how good their presentations are? But seriously, this is a ridiculous over-reaction. Maybe, just maybe the australians should concentrate on cricket rather than psycho-management-methods. I wonder how Arthur & co would have coped with things like the Gower incident, KP fiasco etc.. And I thought playing cricket was one excuse to put off doing homework!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

Fire the coach right now!!

Posted by Nerk on (March 11, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

I cannot believe it! Absolutely ridiculous. And to those people who actually support the decision of coach and captain, let me remind them that this is a national cricket team. The best XI should play. If they have a discipline problem, they have to sort it out themselves. If a player loses form, they should be dropped. But if they forget to do their homework? Such a hardcore, dictatorial approach will not improve things, only create a divide between captain, coach and players, which is exactly what is not needed. Treat men like boys and all they'll play like boys.

Posted by Fleming_Mitch on (March 11, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

@MattFrancis it seems that we always find a way to keep Khawaja out, first it was his fielding and running which we saw this season was fine and now this, he hasn't played a game yet, trains hard in the nets and now misses his first chance because of tihs. Should it not be the coach's job to tell players how they can improve? Presentations are for the corporate boardroom. Play more cricket at the nets for God's sake! Just proves that warnie was right about the Muppets and puppets

Posted by Sivashankar_XI on (March 11, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

james pattinson's absence will be felt in the 3rd test.

Posted by PANKAJ_GOGIYA on (March 11, 2013, 10:13 GMT)

strange...do a player need to write a essay to get selected in the team..

Posted by MegaSix on (March 11, 2013, 10:11 GMT)

You could have fined them for match fee or whatever amount, or given them suspended ban or make them write 'I am sorry' for 1000 times - axing your best bowler so far over such an incident?

Posted by sents2013 on (March 11, 2013, 10:11 GMT)

Good Pshychological trick to make indian team relax. I will say be careful India. All the 4 players are going to be in the playing 11. Don't them for granted.

Posted by CanTHeeRava on (March 11, 2013, 10:10 GMT)

Let us for once assume that half the squad didn't respond with a ppt presentation. What would Micky do? Let us assume that cricket Australia has no money to fly in 7 new players from Australia. Would Micky play a 6 member team in the Mohali test?

I think Dean Jones could be right in suspecting something more serious or something that has been happening for sometime. They may have chosen this moment to put a lid on it. Very sad for Australian cricket. Very damaging in the long run. I don't know why Clarke allowed this to happen.

After all this drama, if Micky can do one thing right, he should play all four players who have been sacked now in the Mohali test match. He might have ignited a fire in their belly and that could prove costly for India.

Posted by ozwriter on (March 11, 2013, 10:09 GMT)

asking for homework is in itself ridiculous. but for an individual to come up with solutions to the team failing is ridiculous. how do you improve?? the batters bat better and the bowlers bowl better.

Posted by D.V.C. on (March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT)

Stupid.

If two players forgot, and two were going to talk to the coach that day, did he stress the importance of the task at all? Did he remind them? Or just mention it once among many other things at a team meeting?

Posted by BBQ_Snags on (March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT)

At least we Aussies have a wealth of talent to select a team from so we can afford to leave out some of our best....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT)

i think it's a wonderful but necessary action against these players.

Posted by RA122 on (March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT)

Ridiculous indeed. Atleast as far as Khwaja is concerned. First you demoralize a person by not giving any chance and playing every other available person but him when he clearly deserves to play and then expect him to show enthusiasm and tell you what 3 thing he will improve. Why would he tell you that when it seems like a clear writing on the wall for him that you are not going to consider him to play as long as you have even one option available. What this inept team management is doing is to ruin a talent by not letting him play at all as in the present situation he is not even able to play domestic cricket.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:08 GMT)

Salutations to Mickey Arthur and Michael Clarke for making the tough decisions that need to be made to ensure this team does get back to the No.1 spots in Test Cricket, ODI and T20 Cricket.

It is discipline that takes you to the top!

Posted by divakaraj on (March 11, 2013, 10:07 GMT)

This is good news for India.. But i would also like to to laud Australia for their well held sense of authority and compliance.. Kudos and CA and Cheers to India

Posted by TJAPUKAI on (March 11, 2013, 10:07 GMT)

Duncan Fletcher is not this bad. At least he is not asking for presentations for poor performances .Reminds me of one of my Ex bosses,who knows nothing about our product,asked for these sort of presentations just to show off to his top management that he did his job.I believe it is that sort of an issue.Very childish . :)

Posted by rienzied on (March 11, 2013, 10:06 GMT)

al ussy and mitch should have said, is one slide each "pick me!"

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:06 GMT)

Ridiculous ...... NOT AT ALL ACCEPTED.... If they loose probably the blame will be that they were forced to leave out these players ....

Posted by Andy_Cricket on (March 11, 2013, 10:05 GMT)

Oh, how much I'd love to have Micky Arthur as a coach for Indian team. More than anything else, cricket teams need discipline. Ozs have been exemplary in punishing players for not complying with the rules. You won't find many coaches and captains who are willing to take input from all the players irrespective of their stature in the team. Imagine, what wonders can be done by getting inputs from players like Pujara, Rahane, etc. The new blood would definitely have many maverick ideas that can be implemented and taken advantage of. I am all for it!! Players gotta do some homework :)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:05 GMT)

LOL ROFL :) All hail the poms and Aussies!! The poms drop a player for sending texts and now Aussies drop players for not sending texts!! This is RIDICULOUS :) Sending the game away in a platter to Indians. We certainly don't mind a free Test match win!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:04 GMT)

Mickey - if you treat your players like they are in kindergarten , they will behave like that. The 4 were the only ones who had the courage not to bow down to this extreme level of silliness. Coach and management - do you job and let players play!

Posted by aaditya98june on (March 11, 2013, 10:04 GMT)

Is it the Australian Team that we are talking about ? Guys being axed for not writing homework. Even England of say 1900S would not have been this stupid. Wonder how the Australian Public is going to take it? Hope not lying down?

Posted by mzm149 on (March 11, 2013, 10:03 GMT)

It seems as if players are 12 year old residing in a boarding school. Why does Khawaja always become victim of not being selected is dubious.

I think it might be Australia's tactic to fool India.

Posted by Okakaboka on (March 11, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

Okay, enough! This Yankee business crap has to stop....NOW!!! It is ruining Australian business, it has stuffed our hospital system, our education system, etc, etc. It is straight out of the "Where are you now? Where do you want to be? and, how are you going to get there?" It is childish and has no place in sport. Geez, if I was a cricketer in the Australian team and had to answer that question I would have responded with 'Get a better coach!' Message for Mickey, from Okakaboka.... An A Grade Tennis Coach...."GROW UP!!!!

Posted by asimzf on (March 11, 2013, 10:02 GMT)

Might be relevant here :P

Posted by MegaSix on (March 11, 2013, 10:01 GMT)

As a coach, shouldn't you sit down with everyone face-to-face and discuss those "3 points" in person, rather than asking them to email/text/note under door/presentation? Anddd...how can I comment how I can improve my own game if you do not let me play a test? There is some other strong reason behind this!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 10:00 GMT)

Old mind does not work with young mind often. I personally think they have given up. Different ploy to minimize the severe criticism. Restraints imposed on four players, two of them were not a part of first 2 test. Khawaja & Johnson missed the first two tests, they didn't face the music & yet management need their opinion on improvement. To me that's the most interesting aspect of all this. At the end Clarke got a great excuse before another defeat. Micky Arthur helped Clarke for his post 3rd test match presentation remarks.

Posted by ODI_BestFormOfCricket on (March 11, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

good chance to lead the series 3-0

Posted by NotU on (March 11, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

Ludicrous!

I don't need the rest of my 25 characters.

Posted by _Sid on (March 11, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

Micky you and people who are involved in this has made a blunder!!!!!

You forgot something here "Things should not go out of the dressing room" and just look what you have done...

This will only "HURT Cricket Australia"...

Be ready to pack your bag....

Its time for Steve Waugh or may be Darren Lehman to Coach the team Aus...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

Does Arthur wants us to believe the reason he has given? He could have kept quiet and dropped the only two who cd hv been dropped for the Test - Watson for being not in form and Pattinson for not being fit. Obviously there is more to it and his reference to KP episode is a clue to some internal bickerings.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (March 11, 2013, 9:59 GMT)

Unbeliveable, Australian cricket is literally in freefall. Now Arthur is taking punitive measures against a few but it's all part of the same maliase and there's just too many people to hold responsible for what has already happened already in te first two test matches. 2-0 down and still two to play - things look like a battle ground in the Aussie camp. As is well documented (and is reported in the Australian press every day), the talent pool is empty, the cupboard is bare. It's time to give a couple of shield bowlers a try out at test level, they'll feel right at home in Australia's test team.

Posted by santhoo24 on (March 11, 2013, 9:58 GMT)

Interesting decision, if not a smart one. Just gives players like Hughes and others who are under pressure for not performing. Cricinfo plz post.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:58 GMT)

I'm with the 'rebels'. Typical self analytical nonsense. Sack Arthur and get a proper coach in. The world has gone mad

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

Cricket Australia and coach Arthur are doing it right. Agreed that it's the job of the coach to provide advices in crunch situation and not that of the players to invent it themselves, but the players should also show their intent for going ahead in a coherent manner. The Australian team might bear the brunt of such disciplinary actions as of now but they will surely reign supreme if they follow the right discipline consistently over a period of a few years. Even the rotation policy of Cricket Australia is a good one. In a matter of 2 to 3 years, they'll produce a pool of 10 batsmen, 15 bowlers, 10 all-rounders and 5 wicket-keepers with an international experience of at-least 40 ODIs, 15 Tests and 30 T20Is each if they carry on with the existing policy. Atleast 80% of them will be fit, adequately experienced and constantly keen to deliver at any point of time after 2 years or may be even before that. Australia will be the team to watch out for in World Cup 2015 and Ashes after that.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:57 GMT)

Mickey Arthur makes Mike Hesson look like a masterful man manager by comparison. This is an utterly ridiculous move, especially for Khawaja, what was he supposed to write "deliver the drinks shaken, not stirred'?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:56 GMT)

with or without them india will win..but its bit too harsh..they r spoiling there own chance of winning

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:56 GMT)

The last time some did this to me was when I was in the first standard

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

This is preposterously childish! Looks like kids being punished for not completing their homework assignments! I guess when nothing goes right, even sanity deserts u! India will now white-wash the Aussies n this will b a brand-new-shiny all-time low for the baggy greens!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

The beatings will continue until morale improves!

Posted by CandidIndian on (March 11, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

This incident looks a bit dramatic to be honest.First of all it was not at all difficult or time consuming to write few points in 4 days,secondly if it was not done,how-come suspending players from next test will not worsen the problems further.Dropping Starc and Lyon for Doherthy and Maxell had been a surprising selection and its very much possible that more surprising selections will happen before third test.Its very much possible that on the morning of third test we might see the news that all four players regret their action and assured that they will give their 100 percent ,so all four are playing.Indian team management should make sure that players should not get distracted and take things easy because of this news.However to be fair,even if this is a tactic or a real incident ,atleast Aussies coach and captain are trying to get things right instead of going for go karting or watching Eng premier league like India's tour of England.

Posted by nacool89 on (March 11, 2013, 9:55 GMT)

How did CA select the squad without knowing what each player has to offer??

Posted by Nightwing32 on (March 11, 2013, 9:54 GMT)

@Ajeesh Ferdin Damn Maxwell I can't think of a reason. Doherty cause Beer got injured and has done good in ODI, so yeah....

Posted by Wefinishthis on (March 11, 2013, 9:54 GMT)

What??? the... Dear oh dear, the wheels have really fallen off now. It's clear that the selectors have now lost their minds after having already lost the plot. Who would want to represent Australia when the players are treated like schoolchildren on a year camp who haven't done their homework? This is supposed to be the Australian test cricket team! There is such a lack of respect for the players, how can they be expected to perform when they have such low confidence as this knowing that the opposition are mocking them for failure to adhere to the ridiculous demands of the regime? I think the highest honours for an Australian now are to win the Shield. Playing for the test side has become a demotion. Clarke is too good to be there. The players should go on strike until there's some sense to selections. I'd like to put forward myself, Meety and hyclass. I think we could argue out a great side and we certainly couldn't do any worse than this lot!

Posted by waza1234 on (March 11, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

Absolutely ridiculous decision. The coach and the selectors are as much to blame as the players for Australia's poor performance on this tour. They have picked stupid teams with so many bits and pieces players and players batting out of position.

Posted by scarab666 on (March 11, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

I've been saying for quite a while now that Australian cricket has not hit rock bottom yet, and I'm right after this latest debacle. Mickey Arthur has to go......South Africa didn't want him...gee I wonder why ? Replace him with Darren Lehmann...... A local boy who is working miracles with Queenslands kids. We will sink even lower after we get our arses kicked during the Ashes. Btw the selectors need to be replaced as well or at least get rid of that CA muppet called Inverarity. Morale is another issue.......

Posted by screamingeagle on (March 11, 2013, 9:53 GMT)

Well, wonder what Khwaja, who did not play either tests, could have contributed for individual, mental or w/e. It is not a line in the sand moment, it is a head in the sand moment.

Posted by gmsjgmsj on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

Exemplary professional standards! Playing no team at all or a team with inexperienced no-hopers on a whim of a cranky idea sets back Aussie cricket by several years. Its not that the players were out in the night binge-drinking. C''mon if you want ideas from the team, then better highlight it in a way that will be complied with. These are professional cricketers and Arthur should show more professionalism than axing players in the middle of an already forgettable series. What does Arthur want - pride in performance or pride in doing some twitchy errand? We are not accustomed to the latter brand of Aussie cricket.

Posted by Mitty2 on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

Regardless of a pretty decent win loss since the ashes.. The management has been appalling. Selectors have been the worst, as usual, but this, this is the tip o the iceberg. Way to instil confidence in your players.

I have never been this frustrated from cricket before, and I watched the previous ashes series. Steve smith, doherty and Maxwell will be in the same team.. I just can't even. This series has been a disaster. A fiasco, but this just makes everything worse.

For once, I'm going to have to agree with warne. Get rid of inverarirty, he is hindering our chances in all games (Perth, chennai, Hyderabad) by consistently shocking selections. Naming a team 2 days out, really? Get rid of Arthur, there's a reason he was kicked from SA. McDermott needs to be bowling coach, a SPIN BOWLER needs to be spin coach.. And langer should be batting coach. There are millions of options of main coach, just make it an Aussie. We have the cattle, but management is ruining our chances.

Posted by Paul_Rampley on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

Very dissapointed for Khawaja and Johnson who haven't played a game so far, training hard in the nets and because of this now miss their first chance in the series.

Posted by cheenar-khan on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

This is just a disgraceful decision by the coach. Isn't it the coach's job to come up with ideas on what needs to be improved rather than the player's job. The players job is to make runs and get wickets, not meeting high school presentation deadlines. I think mitchel johnson and Usman Khwaja would have had only one point to make which they couldn't for obvious reason was that they should have been in the playing team. Its time for micky arthur to produce a presentation on how to improve the team before the deadline of being axed

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

Looks utterly silly. What is this, is this a sport or a corporate sales team meeting. Give me three reasons to improve the market share, customer satisfaction, user experience etc etc ??

Bat better, bowl better, field better ....practice, practice, practice ......that's all they need.

Even in the corporate meetings these kind of *top three reasons* are resented by the most of the *action* guys. I shudder to think this has been permeated to the sports management too .....

Go to the ground, get your hand dirty .....that's all the need to do ...

Best thing CA can do is to sack Micky Arthur and warn Clarke to be more hands on ............

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

Sack Clarke and Arthur. There, I said it.

Posted by Ananth83 on (March 11, 2013, 9:52 GMT)

Very curious to know what Mickey would've done if more than 6 or 7 players didn't complete their task by Saturday night. Play with 9 or 10 guys on the field ? Absolutely ridiculous, we are not dealing with school kids here.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

Management has finally lifted their performance up to absurd. Not content with playing ODI specialists Henriques, Maxwell, Smith and Maxwell in the test squad; they proceed to suspend 4 players = practically ensuring that all four play.....Selection has finally disappeared up its own bottom. Time for Arthurs to go and get a job as the school Headmaster he clearly desires to be. It is almost like he is sabotaging the team on purpose.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

As a cricket fan, I simply don't know how to react to this. This is just plain stupid. And weird. And what were Johnson and Khawaja supposed to write on how to improve their game? "1. Be in the XI 2. Get to bat 3. Get to field/bowl." Almost all four should have been playing this test. Pattinson and Johnson could have gotten a lot of help from the pitch.

Posted by TripleCenturian on (March 11, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

It's easy to blame management but ultimately its the players who need to take responsibility and accountability for their performance not Arthur. If 12 players managed to do it then why could these four not do so? It's attitude and if you think you have made it when you get to the top then you are mistaken. The hard part is usually staying at the top, not getting there as others beneath you are all working hard to get your place. Whilst not on a par with Vettori, Patel, Coles and Stokes for drinking indiscipline, the Aussies here have shown a lack of respect and discipline of another kind. Lets face it, the way they have played recently should have given them plenty to go at of three areas of improvement. Arthur could have asked them to list ten areas and they would still have had to decide which ones to leave off the list.

Posted by raj_n on (March 11, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

Cricket is moving from being a simple sport to a study in management. There is only one reason for Australias showing i.e. the conditions. No point in dropping these players. Looks like Mickey is trying to save his own pants. These silly measures deprive the paying public of value for money. My 3 questions for Mickey are 1. How did you prepare for the conditions before the tour ? 2. Did any of the players give less than 100 percent in the games Australia played ? 3. Which management books have you been reading ? It is especially unfair on a person like James Pattinson who has visibly given more than a 100 percent. How is he supposed to come up with 3 points by which he can perform better ?

Posted by _Sid on (March 11, 2013, 9:51 GMT)

I guess this is the part of their game plan... "To make Team India a bit complacent" by dropping the big names like Shane Watson and James Pattinson from the team. but, I dont think this will work.

Try something else Aussss!!!

May be bring back Waugh's, McGrath, Warne!!!!

Even then India would win the series 4-0!!!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

Now aussies will surelly leran from their mmistskes

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:50 GMT)

It is beyond me how Australia expect to get back to number 1 if they (1) don't play their best available XI every game (2) keep a united front and (3) don't have the talent (crucial that). Until number (3) rectifies itself the captain and coach must focus on (1) and (2).

Posted by Umair111 on (March 11, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

Lol,what about if they want to right to sack Mickey Aurthur(Coach),but were reluctant to write on paper?AU at it's lowest point in history,didn't learn from Argus Review anything.Making a decent coach like Darren Lehman/Steve Waugh/Mark Waugh/Gilchrist/Ponting/Hussey etc.The money they are taking is NOT funny by CA.It's not school cricket/street cricket or an exam,where teacher punishes you not doing well in exams.AU will lose India series by 4-0,with whitewash to back to back Ashes in UK & AU.Whatever the players say with making statements in pre match conference but doing nothing in the middle(ground)!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:48 GMT)

Old mind does not work with young mind often. I personally think they have given up. Different ploy to minimize the severe criticism. Restraints imposed on four players, two of them were not a part of first 2 test. Khawaja & Johnson missed the first two tests, they didn't face the music & yet management need their opinion on improvement. To me that's the most interesting aspect of all this. At the end Clarke got a great excuse before another defeat. Micky Arthur helped Clarke for his post 3rd test match presentation remarks.

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (March 11, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

That ridiculous. How hard is it to point out three ways the aussies could improve? I can think of about a hundred. Still, if you dont hand your homework in, your gonna get caned.

Posted by TrueLankan on (March 11, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

Well.Australia should just surrender the next match. They can't win without their second best batsmen and their best bowler in India. Mickey Arthur needs to go back to where he came from. Get Darren Lehmann in to the role.

Posted by wix99 on (March 11, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

I don't know whether this means the Australian team management is incredibly serious or incredibly stupid....

Posted by abhijeet65 on (March 11, 2013, 9:47 GMT)

A good time for Pragyan Ojha and Vrender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir to defect to Australia..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:46 GMT)

what? Coach asked 3 points from the players..I thought it is simply his job..

if Coach has asked Dhoni..I am sure sure Dhoni would have said it is your job...

Posted by kmgnath on (March 11, 2013, 9:45 GMT)

Australia wil defenitely miss Shane Watson, James Pattinson and Usman Khawaja (usually subcontinent origin perform well against India) for rest of the series. But at the same time Arthur wants disiplain in the team and clear cut tasks assigned to them, this might be tough team to beat. Arthur is good coach, he has done well in the past with proven records. CA is a coach based team, so they will perform well.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:45 GMT)

What some people on here don't understand is that 2 out of the 4 players are younger players. If they don't get a lesson taught right now, they will probably end up having more attitude problems later on in their career. It is a very brave call on the side of CA.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:45 GMT)

April still a few weeks away.....are you sure this is not an April Fool prank?

Posted by BigDataIsAHoax on (March 11, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

Is this for real? Why not have a one-on-one with each player and get it over with than give a homework! Makes zip sense to me. Arthur is not gonna be around for long. 4-0 against India followed by a sure loss in the Ashes. He is just trying to cover his back and making a miserable attempt at that.

Posted by Nokesy on (March 11, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

Even if wade is not injured, the Australians will have to play haddin due to the lack of batsmen

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

How the circle of cricket changes, a year ago team india was in shambles in australia, now a total reversal.

To all impatient aussie fans, pls keep in mind that you have a young/inexperienced team (hughes, cowan, wade, patto, starc) - barring a couple of changes here and there (example, playing hughes as opener and bringing in khawaja in place of cowan) not much can be done, this is the truth about the current state of affairs. The best lott of aussie players are in india. Keep in mine even the great SK Warne has struggled in India, dont expect too much out of lyon or doherthy (swann and panesar was an aberation in india) --- go back to your strengths, win with faster men, get jhonson in the team, play patto, siddle and starc(you really dont need to play a spinner) and you will stand a decent chance of competing. Lets not be so fickle and hasty in our judgement - these boys like all of us will learn their trade through experience.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:44 GMT)

This is rubbish a good excuse to keep Khawja out of the team . The same thing was done to drop Andew Symonds for Watson . Please pick players on merit . I have my 3 points for the coach, 1- Mike Hussey should have retire after the Indian tour, 2- Pointing too and 3 the series was lost once Hussey and Pionting were not in the team you do not groom a team against India in India, maybe that can be done against Zimbabwe or perhaps Bangladesh. The Micky Authur more than 3 points. you just cannot carry water in a Basket. Michael Clarke should open the batting and be an Allistiar Cook for Australia , that would make a huge difference, at least England won with Cook at the top of the order, do you still need more points

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

OMG What is this? Can't agree with such a method by coach. If the coach have to apply discipline then conceal this matter withthin their dressing room and punish them. Why to make it in the public? If these 4 goes then who will play for Aussies? Michael Clarke or Moises Henriques? Whatever happened is bad and something silly.

Posted by boingo on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

Hmmm...we are talking about grown men here who are more disciplined than the average man on the street by a long shot. What is the problem with talking to them at training. I have no problem with the side losing in India. It wasn't long ago they hammered SL and pushed SA to the limit at home. The performances have been really good for the last year. This is no way to put up a better performance in the 3rd Test. I predict a win inside 3 days this time around.

Posted by guptahitesh4u on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

The punishment seems to be very harsh...were the player informed that "failure to submit the assignment on time might result in their axing from the team"... I think, player should have been warned first..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

How the mighty have fallen. Australian cricket is in disarray. The ACB should send the full selection panel over with some additional players. How about Chris Rogers, Ashton Agar, M. Hogan and Steven O'Keefe? Pack the bags of M Arthur with a vote of no thanks and send home Steve Smith, Mitchell Johnson, Matthew Wade, Shane Watson and Mitchell Starc. I have had enough with this terrible selection drama.

Posted by PV916 on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

This reminds me of the story when David Lloyd was in charge of the England team in the 90's and set a similar task - only for Robert Croft to write his presentation entirely in Welsh...

Posted by satishchandar on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

Ok. Let me complete the home work. Three points for the players. Bat well, Bowl well, Field well. For support staffs. Nurture the skills of players, Pick correct players, Give them enough security to reduce pressure. From the first two games, first two were not evident from the support staffs.. They killed the third one now. Who will axe u guys.. If the players were dropped on performance issues, welcome. If they drink and brawl, it is fine. Ideally a coach shouldn't have asked the likes of Khawaja/Johnson for comments itself as they didn't play the game.. Pattinson didn't evne rise to a place where he can comment on the things needed for the team. Still a kid to the team need not indulge in these stuffs. Watto is a culprit given his experience. He should have been more careful.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:43 GMT)

This is how Aussies Play and react, If players did not want these things they should have communicated to Captain and Manager..At the same time Coach or Captain should have interacted again for the same and whosoever did not respond is are the culprit. it is Australian National Cricket Team guys.. no place for Indiscipline..thats the way best teams do...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:42 GMT)

They have officially lost the plot. Mickey Arthur has got to be sacked NOW. Never have I heard something more ridiculous than this. What would Ian Chappell say of this nonsense? What is Mickey Arthur thinking to treat them like school boys? Treat adults this way and they will act like school boys. Morale must be at absolute rock bottom. Cricket Australia must act right now - please.

Posted by rubz10 on (March 11, 2013, 9:42 GMT)

this is actually a gr8 news for Indian team. i was seriously worried about pattinson and Mitchell Johnson in mohali. if India win the toss, and decide to bat in mohali... I am sure,they would have surrendered to aussie fast bowlers-pattinson,starc, Johnson within 4 session. i have to say, this Australian team management have a great way to put pressure on India lol..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:42 GMT)

Clarke's selections have been atrocious since day one. He should be stripped of that privilege. Mickey Arthur's plan to put the Aussies back in line is the same as anyone in power who can't afford to have fingers pointing at him: put all the blame on everyone else, and sack anyone who doesn't fall in line.

Posted by RoJayao on (March 11, 2013, 9:42 GMT)

Cant believe this. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot, or blowing it off completely! Yeah bad attitude by the players, absolutely slack and not forgivable for either veteran or novice. But that is completely gross overreaction by management and tells me all is not well in the Australian camp. A divided team is a weak team and by gosh haven't the wheels fallen off. I'm absolutely gutted as an Aussie fan. Smug India are loving this and England are just laughing themselves silly! I want bloody answers for these ongoing disgraces.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

I think Mickey Arthur is just taking the mickey out of these players as an early April Fools joke :-D

Posted by straightdrive88 on (March 11, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

This is outrageous! Discipline is one thing and need of the hour is another! I am sure there are some other undercurrents to this incident. And all this talk about Shane Watson preparing well. Maybe he got so involved in preparing that he forgot to write a report on how bad he was! Even the Indian team would feel bad about having to compete against such a depleted attack! I have never felt sorry for the Aussies! And I am an India fan!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:41 GMT)

wow! kudos to arthur nd clarke! even though dey r 2-0 down stil dey tak such risk to ensure discipline! wish indians wer willin 2 tak such risks, we wud nvr hv hd sehwag dhoni controversies

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

a very strange move by Aussies especialy when they are 2-0 down. We fully repsect Auther and clarke point of views and it happens to any team when they loose games but how can you dropped your two best players Watto and Patti. They can turn the game to Aussies favor at any given day. They could have handle this situation in a different way. Very poor profesionlism by Auther and co.

Posted by kickittome70 on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

All of these players should have been picked in the team for the Mohali test - maybe Mickey Arthur should reflect on his performance - though Watto's lack of following this up is clearly a relection of his arrogant attitude. The idea of dropping Patto is mad - he is easily our best bowler - weird times in Australia's coaching ranks. I wonder if there is a rift between Clarke and Watto?

Posted by Sunil_Batra on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

@Michael yes another reason not to pick Khawaja. From the other thread… It seems April 1st comes around faster every year…This is surely a far bigger story than players getting dropped for late night drinking. For not doing their homework???? I'm all for team discipline, the coach running teams, not the players, and agree with Brett that even if they thought the exercise was waste of time. But…. this will make Australia an even bigger laughing stock. Would love to have been at a bar alongside Ian Chappell when this broke. I heard Mickey Arthur interviewed on ABC radio yesterday afternoon. Must say he sounded very hesitant and unconvincing. Noticed that Border came out voicing his concerns on this decision too.

Posted by DocBindra on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

Food for thought...what does the management expect from Khawaja and Johnson? They haven't even played yet!!!!!!!!!! 1)You should have played me. 2)The reason you are 0-2 is because I should have played. 3)We have no chance of winning without my inclusion in the playing 11.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

this is ridiculous... two nil down and letting this get in the way of selecting the best team including a player that hasn't even played? Media is gonna tare Clarke, Arthur and old man to shreds. I saw Clarke's doing in this too, like his snide comments about Watson not being an auto selection now he's not an all rounder, which on premise is fair enough, but to talk like that publicly about someone in the vice captain position to me reeks of instability.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

Wow. I'm embarrassed as an Australian supporter. A horrid overreaction and shows a side to Clarke and Arthur that is a genuine surprise. I was optimistic about the team improving ahead of the back to back ashes but I can feel the bad morale from here in Finland. Way to go Clarke, what a stupid thing to do. Talk about picking B teams again. 2-0 down in a test series? You show those players! What about our cricket team and the supporters? Can't remember ever being angry about cricket but I am now.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:40 GMT)

@SIVA KUMAR iif this is game plan then entire australian team has lot of scope on daily tele soap on Indian Television.................

Posted by Abhi1230 on (March 11, 2013, 9:39 GMT)

CA is really making India look stronger! SA and ENG are way ahead of rest

Posted by Spike85 on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

Ridiculous - management gone mad!!

Posted by USMANRANDHAWA on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

That's the attitude missing in Pakistan.That is a very brave and accurate decision made by Australian team management.some one says "One stitch in time is better that nine"

Posted by Edassery on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

This is only the tip of the iceberg. I get a feeling that there's some kind of rift within the team on captaincy matters. After Punter and Hussey exited, there's absolutely no support given to Clarke by senior players like Watson.

In pacer friendly Mohali, they are going in with an even weaker team. Pretty bad state of affairs for CA.

Posted by Longhopper on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

So the entire series will be lost because 4 guys didn't do an e-mail or a note? Seems to me that there has been something else going on behind the scenes for a while. It's most likely that Arthur has lost the dressing room and that can only spell disaster for the remainder of this series and the up and coming Ashes trip. You can't really use the KP example as that was a totally different situation to this one.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

Is this an Australian schoolboys team touring India that they have an off-field assignment to provide inputs on how to improve? Isn't that what the coach is paid to do? And how on earth are people like Usman Khawaja and Mitchell Johnson supposed to contribute to this when they played no part in the first 2 Tests?

As an Indian, I'm ashamed of the BCCI for not adopting the DRS (going against all logic) but if I were an Australian, I wouldn't know where to look because this really takes the cake!

Posted by inthebag on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

Sacked for not doing their homework? Absurd.

Posted by PSSidhu on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

Well, now if India don't win the series 4 - 0, each and every player should write a 20,000 words essay on how they messed it up.

Posted by ShanteshRow on (March 11, 2013, 9:38 GMT)

Their bowlers are being punished by the Indian batsmen. Their batsmen are being punished by the Indian bowlers. And now we have their management punishing them for not writing notes. Arthur is pulling a Mickey on a once-collosus of the cricketing world. Maybe next time, India should have one of their support staff camped outside of Arthur's room, so if an Aussie player slips a note below the door, he can pull the same out and we could have the delicious possibility of just Arthur and Clarke being available to play the next test.

Posted by Webba84 on (March 11, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

Bit harsh on making the guys who havent even played a game do it but a nice idea after all. If these guys cant do a small thing like send a text well how will they manage with the big things? Most fans seem to think the Aus teams problem is that the wrong people are playing, maybe it isn't. Maybe the right people are playing but they have the wrong attitude.

Posted by tickcric on (March 11, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

Adversity reveals character. This Australian side under rebuilding phase is facing severe challenge in India and are 0-2 down and they are talking about being the best team in the world! Australia may not do well in the short term - let's face it, right now most of the players do not have the experience or the skill to succeed around the world. But if they keep up with the tough professional work ethics which Arthur is maintaining here, they will rise again. Considering how Australia played in the last test match, Australian cricketing legacy and culture & their future goal as a team, I think, it was tough but a right decision made.

Posted by Saffer_13th on (March 11, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

Lol hilarious. So now the players are making flow charts and pie diagrams to prove their worth. Thats new. Here I thought the coach and captain would decide what they need to win a match and then they'd pick those players who could provide what they needed and that would be proven on the field, not on a piece of paper on an e-mail. Ozzie cricket is in shambles. Grown men being given homework.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

Reminds me of schooltime when teachers punished us by making us stand outside the class for not doing the homework :) (not that we hated standing outside ..)

Posted by baskar_guha on (March 11, 2013, 9:37 GMT)

Such draconian moves are usually a sign of team management trying to show who is boss as reaction to dissension of some sort. Without Pattinson and Watson, it will be much harder for the Aussies to make a comeback into this series. If the Aussies dont win a test in this series, Mickey Arthur will be under tremendous pressure to keep his job.

Posted by PANKAJ_GOGIYA on (March 11, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

what sort of crap is this...Australia is not in a position to do all this non sense..they should focus on winning the games...not this petty issues...games are won by practicing hard on the field..not by completing this unnecessary task..its hardcore cricket not a reality show like big brother or roadies....

Posted by pandez on (March 11, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

No cricketer is bigger than the sport, this is the example which the Australian cricket team is setting and I feel its great for the game, hope this kind of attitude would have been showed by Indian cricket. Don't go gaga over these Indian wins, there real test is about to follow when they tour abroad thrice starting later this year, there will be questions too, In India any one can score runs lets see how Murali Vijay copes on green and fast track and so the other batsman, including our captain kooool.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

Arthur should run a school and not a cricket team, just homework can only be punishable in schools and colleges. I think they need to hire someone who knows cricket. He should have personally met the players and discuss their thinking process. Most player probably skipped higher education because they might hated all this writing. I want to see what Chappell brothers think about this move

Posted by Naren on (March 11, 2013, 9:36 GMT)

The headmaster and class teacher have penalized the students for not doing their home work.. Just because the coach and captain was lost for ideas they drop their best bowler. Let them do so at their own peril. Mitch was the only other option they had. If they did this with Shane Watson, no issues because as a vice captain it was his responsibility to give his inputs.

Posted by GRVJPR on (March 11, 2013, 9:35 GMT)

Well! Is that a joke of the century??? Good for India and Indian experts who keep crushing the young cricketers in India saying " We have no becnhstrength", We will see benchstrength of Australia now.

Posted by MashuBhagat on (March 11, 2013, 9:34 GMT)

This is ridiculus.... but We Indiand dont mind at all :-D

Posted by StarveTheLizard on (March 11, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

Were the four informed that there would be consequences? Have there been similar exercises before?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

im baffled with flabbergastment!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by tao_warrior1 on (March 11, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

Heat and Dust in India does weird things to the mind ... another example of self-sabotage except to Mickey it might seem as drawing the line. I think the Aussie team has imported Self Hate here ... thought it was owned up by us in India a lot more. I cannot believe that they would do this to themselves ahead of Mohali - a paradise for pace and swing.

Posted by PointFielder on (March 11, 2013, 9:33 GMT)

Arthur is passing the blame on to these players and shrugging off responsibility.

Posted by raja.assasin on (March 11, 2013, 9:31 GMT)

We need to look at this from both sides. I am sure that no team in the world can ever achieve success, let alone greatness without some semblance of discipline and team spirit. That is the reason why large corporates spend fortunes over team building exercises.So punishing people when they take these exercises lightly is correct. However the quantum of punishment should be directly proportional to the mistake committed.Dropping a player from the side for not writing a summary seems to be a huge exaggeration. It seems to me as if the coach is trying to prove to everyone that he is proactive. I dont know how that will impress people if this Australian team becomes the first team to loose 3 test in a series in India.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:31 GMT)

Micky was expecting players to help him out....pathetic....This is the lowest point in Australian Cricket. Sack this man or forget B-G trophy and the Ashes.

Posted by Green_and_Gold on (March 11, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

Hmmm... I wonder if any of the players that did submit the 3 points had said that the team could be stronger and play better if they excluded 4 members of the squad. Im sure there are better punishments than being excluded for a game. I only hope that the consequence of not doing this work was explicitly clear (i.e. you will be dropped if you dont do it) before the decision was made. I guess the selectors are also out of play for this test with only having to make one decision.

Posted by SRK666 on (March 11, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

One general point: it is quite reasonable for the coaching staff to demand more responsibility from players with regard to tactics and technique. Especially from the vice-captain.

The more specific point is that something smells a bit funny. Arthur asks them for a presentation on how to improve, and sets a deadline; some players don't meet this deadline, and they are not considered for selection. Did Arthur try to contact these players when they hadn't met the deadline? Did Arthur tell them of the possible consequences of not getting the presentation in by the deadline? Why did Arthur want them to submit this presentation in text form, why couldn't he just talk to them?

Mostly, this comes off as Arthur just trying to look hard and tough because Australia have suffered two bad losses. Of course it depends upon their personalities, but one wonders how Khawaja + Johnson will take this, given that they've arguably been unfairly overlooked for this tour so far.

Posted by raja.assasin on (March 11, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

We need to look at this from both sides. I am sure that no team in the world can ever achieve success, let alone greatness without some semblance of discipline and team spirit. That is the reason why large corporates spend fortunes over team building exercises.So punishing people when they take these exercises lightly is correct. However the quantum of punishment should be directly proportional to the mistake committed.Dropping a player from the side for not writing a summary seems to be a huge exaggeration. It seems to me as if the coach is trying to prove to everyone that he is proactive. I dont know how that will impress people if this Australian team becomes the first team to loose 3 test in a series in India.

Posted by Haleos on (March 11, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

Ruthless culture does not make a best team Mr Clarke. You should have handled this internally rather than making such a big circus. Cricket is a team sport and everyone has to contribute. yes. But why did you not have a meeting and make each one stand and put forth his thoughts. Why should each one send a text/email/notes etc.? Nonsense. If you are more concerned about forming a team surely having everyone together is the best thing to do.

Posted by VJ_Cricket on (March 11, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

am lost for words, have not read the whole article as am at work. but aussies are self destroying. or as the hindi saying goes 'pair kulhadi pe maro'!

indians will be defo giggling bout the whole matter, two serious pace bowlers and a decent player of spin gone, one cant help to think how the poms will be reacting to this.

Posted by dr_drick on (March 11, 2013, 9:30 GMT)

Ahem...who is someone suppose to comment improving their individual performance when they haven't played a game..

Posted by vinayjain_cric on (March 11, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

Woo !! schholboy stuff...reminds me of schooldays when you are told to stand out o the classroom for not completing homework :) these 4 players are made to stand out of the cricekt field !!....Now not just haddin, Aussie may have to send 4 more players :):)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:29 GMT)

what a joke.... Coaches play god with the teams moral

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:28 GMT)

Mickey Arthur is set to do what lot of other players / team all over the world could not do............Demolish Austraila

Posted by Fleming_Mitch on (March 11, 2013, 9:28 GMT)

Seriously, if the NSP are so desperate not to play Khawaja they should just come out and say so. No need to go to all this trouble. Watson is our Vice captain, the relationship between the captain and VC will never be the same again and this will hurt us in the ashes. Their words were "They need to take ownership of the team and the own skills shortages so the team unit can achieve its set short term goals"…blah blah management speak, management speak.I have seen this sort of approach several times in my career in a field where it doesn't not belong and every time it has failed. This sort of tripe is served up by people who don't have the respect of the group they are trying to lead, can't communicate to that group and generally have no idea how to get the team to take the approach you want them too.Yes the players should have done the uselesssaassignment, but that they need to resort to this style of leadership shows this management group has no idea how to lead a national cricket tea

Posted by CricketFollowers on (March 11, 2013, 9:27 GMT)

I am very surprised to hear this. But i would have appreciate the board if they would have sacked them for some other reason. First of all why the coach needs a coaching skill from his own players?. If he really wants to fix things setup a meeting or have a one on one with each player. Why do you ask Usman Khawaja for reason, his obvious reason would be his exclusion. I dont wonder why SA didnt reached the top spot under his regime.

Posted by sablue on (March 11, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

The four in question could've posed the following:We are respectively Qld,Victorian and NSW Sheffield Shield Cricketers;We have also have played Test cricket for our country;Now tell me how a second class cricketer from Transvaal gets the coaching gig when Lehmann is waiting in the wings?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

I am all for discipline. But, this is too much. These are players, and not coaches. Not even analysts. Worst part is asking those who didn't even play, to suggest how can they improve... what... sitting on the bench?... carrying the drinks?... What?. Even those who played, for example, Pattinson, is just a pace bowler. He neither has the training / experience as a coach / analyst, to do such a job That's passing the buck, Mickey. That's your job. You are paid for it.

Moreover Pattinson is too young and new to give suggestion, say for example, how his senior Siddle should improve (pace bowling is all what Patty knows!). This is ridiculous!

This is like, say getting an English Teacher to train a bunch of non-English speaking Indians from different parts of the country with command over only their local lingos, as to how to speak English 'more' fluently. Teacher is lost, as how to do it. So, he asks the natives to come up with 3 suggestions. in 5 days. Can't do it? Then, get out! Wow

Posted by ankit_daga on (March 11, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

This has to be a joke . Australians have lost it . They are doing nothing but shooting themselves in the foot .

Posted by VinodGupte on (March 11, 2013, 9:26 GMT)

Q why did watson not do the homework? A because he is NOT playing at home

Q why did watson not do the homework? A he did not have enough paper at his disposal. p hughes took all the paper to write a book on improving his own performance.

Posted by vikart on (March 11, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

So Hughes gets one more chance, and we might see 3 or even 4 spinners playing for AUS . What a joke :))

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

What is the Aussie coach expecting.Are these players or business consultants to give presentations in power point.

Posted by CandidIndian on (March 11, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

This incident looks a bit dramatic to be honest.First of all it was not at all difficult or time consuming to write few points in 4 days,secondly if it was not done,how-come suspending players from next test will not worsen the problems further.Dropping Starc and Lyon for Doherthy and Maxell had been a surprising selection and its very much possible that more surprising selections will happen before third test.Its very much possible that on the morning of third test we might see the news that all four players regret their action and assured that they will give their 100 percent ,so all four are playing.Indian team management should make sure that players should not get distracted and take things easy because of this news.However to be fair,even if this is a tactic or a real incident ,atleast Aussies coach and captain are trying to get things right instead of going for go karting or watching Eng premier league like India's tour of England.

Posted by arun_gga on (March 11, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

If Australian coaches can do this to their own Australian cricketers, then I wonder why there was so much hullaho what an Australian coach did to a cricketer who is not even their own. Not everybody is as lenient as Johnny the Right. Hence, we have to take it for granted there was something wrong with the 'victim' himself. Anyway, all that it may turn out is, Australia may return with a big bang and prove everybody wrong. However, my best wishes are with Dhoni and his men (sans Sehwag). God bless them.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:25 GMT)

Mr.Arthur cricket is a game which should be played in the Cricket field and not in board rooms. You are a coach and you go on asking the players about their ideas to win a test match. Man are you not paid by the CA to formulate plans to win a test match?? Cricket Australia to quickly intervene and scrap this idiotic decision. As a Indian fan I always like the hard fought matches between India and Australia. If players like Watson, Johnson and Pattison are not playing then why should we watch the remaining matches.

Posted by Nervewrecker on (March 11, 2013, 9:23 GMT)

This is an unbelievable level of Mindgame. By declaring that these 4 players won't play the next test, Australia wants to fool the Indian think tank into not planning strategies for these players. On the morning of the Mohali test, they will declare that all 4 have apologized and so, have been picked in the playing eleven. Indian batsmen might not even be ready to face the pace of Pattinson and Johnson and their bowling strategy might also be thrown haywire by the selection of Watson and Khawaja. Cricket is not only about outthinking your opponents on the field, but also off the field.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

One other pint - Steve Rixon coaching the spinners? I'd do a better job!

Posted by LillianThomson on (March 11, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

Let me get this right.

Arthur and Clarke ignore the evidence from the recent England tour and go with a single Plan A, to blast India out with pace and part-time spinners. It fails.

They then turn on their own players, and tell them to do the leading and strategising themselves. When some of them don't (and how were Khawaja and Johnson meant to find three points for improvement - "I will hold the drinks tray slightly higher next time"?) they are publically ostracised and humiliated.

I've been watching cricket for 40 years. I know what happens next. A psychologically broken team capitulates 4-0, Chappelli and Warne rubbish the leadership group in public, the whole Inverarity-Arthur-Clarke triumvirate loses their jobs.

As a psychiatrist, I recognise an act of mass suicide when I see it.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

Leaving out Pattinson??? Yes, that is one real way to improve.. :P Aussies have totally lost it...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:22 GMT)

I think its an over reaction. Really usman khwaja and mitchell have not even played a game and how are they to improvve themselves? sounds a little ridicules but as Indian fan its just another interesting controversy.

Posted by Paul-in-Finland on (March 11, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

@ maverick77 : very true. Mark of true Professionalism! Hats off to the CA heads. A line in the sand moment.

Posted by VinodGupte on (March 11, 2013, 9:21 GMT)

shouldn't they have asked p hughes and s watson to write about a hundred points (or a book) on how to improve their performance?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

Looks like this is game plan to make Indians even more relaxed.

Any how we have to wait, until the playing XI is announced on 14th morning.

Posted by Potatis on (March 11, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

It would have been a very simple assignment to do, and 5 days is plenty of time to think of something. There must be an underlying issue somewhere. I can't imagine what damage this has done to team morale, and being publicly shamed as not fitting into team culture must also create some resent and bitterness. I'd say the Clarke (c)/Watson (vc) relationship can't be too strong right now, which can't be good since they are the leaders and should be working together. I'm disappointed that Pattinson has been dropped in this way.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

@Nightwing 32, mate thats why maxwell aka bigshow and dohrety aka x-man are in team(I mean really they have earned baggy green???)...mate Aus batting and spin bowling bench strength is sooooo weak thats why I guess.......

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:20 GMT)

Only 1 thing can be told . This is a joke I guess this is what happens when the team is not plaing well . Micky has lost it completely .

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

Thats Rubbish. What good that would do to Aussies. Frustration of loss I guess.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

This current setup is a disaster and responsibility starts at the top. The ACB needs to take a good hard look at itself - the chair must resign and take inverarity and arthurs with him. Australian cricket has become complacent. Junior cricket is terrible and it all stems from there. Need to look to the strength - cricket is competitive and is designed to be won - it is NOT about the feel good participation rubbish. People like Lehman (coach), Warne, McGrath, Langer, Hayden, Gillespie et al.need to be more directly involved. Admin is a joke, selection is a joke and this rotation rubbish needs to go out the window. A complete restructure from the bottom up is required. This is where the WI went wrong after their dominant years.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

He really has *no* man-management skills at all. Is Mickey Arthur really in post for the next year as well? Because if so, thanks for the double Ashes, Oz!

Posted by Nautika on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

This is psychological tactic from Australia, giving India a comfort zone and prepare for the game plan as per current team. Wait till the day of the match, they will all be back in the team and India will have no game plan. WOW...

Posted by yogi.s on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

To me this seems to indicate a lack of respect for the coach's methods.

Posted by Hammond on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

Well done Mickey, you've just given RandyOz the best possible excuse about how Australia got whitewashed by India. The first two tests have already been forgotten.

Posted by rohanbala on (March 11, 2013, 9:19 GMT)

The punishment meted out to Watson, Khawaja, Johnson and Pattinson, has given a new lease of life to Philip Hughes and Xavier Doherty in the batting and bowling departments. Phil Hughes will be under pressure more than before and unless he scores a fifty in each innings of the Mohali Test, he can consider himself playing his final test for australia. Doherty on the other hand will get the opportunity to share the spin load with Nathan Lyon.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

"The four players failed to meet a deadline of Saturday night to provide feedback to Mickey Arthur on how the side can improve after being thrashed in the first two Tests."

Maybe MA should ask the coach what should be done?? Oh that's right .... Arther is the coach .... and he obviously has no idea how to bail out this sinking mess.

Here's my new conspiracy theory .... The ACB will do anything possible to prevent Khawaja from Captaining an Australian Cricket Team. Look at the top six in the batting order. Of those six players who would you guaranty would be in the Australian Cricket Team in six years time. I look and see no certainties If Khawaja was selected for the Indian Tests he probably would have had a great experience .... Marsh would have played a few Shield Games .... gone to WI .... then played SL. Khawaja could have settled in nicely and by now would have to be considered a potential Captain ..... but not anymore.

Posted by T-Ahmed on (March 11, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

I am actually worried who will carry the drinks in the next match ???????

Posted by Tova on (March 11, 2013, 9:18 GMT)

This is just ridiculous... The Australian Cricket team is officially the biggest joke in Australian sport... Sacked for not completing a review? I'm all for drawing a line in the sand when it comes to team culture and discipline, but this is hardly the incident to make that stand... Fine them? Yes why not. But to throw away any chance we have of competing in the next Test, let alone winning it is simply lunacy!

Posted by yogi.s on (March 11, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

Very poor handling by team management. If they didnt show up for practice may be but surely sending in a report is not that important. Atleast it is not worth a match ban. The most silly part is khawaja and johnson didnt even play the tests to tell the coach how they can improve their performances.

Posted by nlight on (March 11, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

This is so reminiscent of the worst of British business management when clueless managers seek to delegate blame to their underlings. Of course, you're meant to pretend and go along with it, rather than point out the farcical futility of it.

The truth is that a test series in India, particularly for an inexperienced side, is always going to be a very different proposition to playing them at home. I wonder if Duncan Fletcher would have dreamed of insulting the Indian players in this way after their poor showing down under. I suspect not.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:17 GMT)

Presentations???What they playing cricket or just trying to go 'dandy ideas' like the corporates.The world's in enough trouble already because of the darned presentations....God knows they were the dumbest idea ever. What's up with Mickey???Trying to bring discipline into the team,this is not the way to go. I am sure the four players axed just found the essay thing just incredible,hard to believe and plain unreal. I hope better sense prevails and someone steps in to stem this.This is a martinet gone out of hand right now kinda situation.Discipline is the most important thing in any sport,but this is surely an excessive response.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

What a joke. What 3 revolutionary ideas was Arthur going to get from the team, that he himself could not think of, and which would turn the tide for good? If he wanted to test their attitude, then best do it by adding extra practice sessions and judging them on the field.

How's this for an idea.."let Pattison bowl on the Mohali track"

Posted by inefekt on (March 11, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

Mickey Arthur is killing Australian cricket. The man needs to be given his marching orders.

Posted by boston_pride on (March 11, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

This is total farce... Arthur has to go... Dropping Pattinson is worse than the Gayle- WICB fiasco... Come on man... Drop players for not performing... Dont drop them because they dont do your schoolboy homework... This is not a concentration camp... THis is a cricket team

Posted by TheBeard on (March 11, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

MJ wasn't being lazy, it's just that it's taking him a long time to whittle down his list to just three.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

I dont like this tactics from mickey arthur dropping the crucial player at crucial time.When aussies almost won 2nd test at adelaine against proteas match was drawn by amazing batting display from du-plessis and right in the next test match they drop both siddle and ben hilfenaus and here dropping watson and pattison oh boy thats hurts a lot they might have something to offer in next match.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:16 GMT)

Ridiculous. Team discipline is one thing and probably a great thing to follow. But this looks more like dictatorship. Reprimanding the players for not submitting three points on how to improve the team's fortunes by dropping them in a test match, in a series which is already down in the dumps is pathetic.

Posted by jonesy2 on (March 11, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

now i am dead set sure mickey arthur has been assigned from south africa to bring down australia from inside and this confirms that. how is clarke letting this happen? why was arthur hired in the first place? sack him immediately and hire boof lehmann as the coach, IMMEDIATELY!

Posted by Mark_Hurst on (March 11, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

Amazing story. Australia head coach trying to mirror Andy flower but going three better by chopping 4 players!

Appauling show by AUS cricket. Get the board room coaches out of cricket and focus on playing!

Posted by tao_warrior1 on (March 11, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

The Aussies are in the Sandpit with punitive teachers and management, and the sulking quartet right out of it. This is incredible and unbelievable. Micky and Company have no idea how to get out of the situation especially since they have singled out all match winners and kicked them out. I believe Johnson and Pattinson could have really troubled the Indian batsmen, and Shane Watson knows India so well.

Posted by CricketGoat on (March 11, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

Mickey Arthur and Michael Clarke have shown poor judgement here, as have the four disciplined so harshly. Hard to know what's happening behind closed doors but it indicates that there is a very unhappy team at the moment. I don't blame them either. Pretty poor employers the Aussie cricketers have to put up with at the moment.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:15 GMT)

What is this high school first XI cricket? Well if this is how they try to rebuild a team atmosphere then I must say I am dissapointed. Only recently was Mitch playing some of his best cricket and he is dropped for not sliding a note or sending a text message... ? Forbid having a conversation like normal

Posted by I-Like-Cricket on (March 11, 2013, 9:13 GMT)

How could Khawaja and Johnson improve? Run the drinks out better?

Posted by PFEL on (March 11, 2013, 9:13 GMT)

I wonder what they expected from Khawaja . . . "Point 1: I would score more runs if i was playing" "Point 2: we should stop not picking me" "Point 3: the team would be better with me in it"

Posted by Edwards_Anderson on (March 11, 2013, 9:12 GMT)

Completely disagree with this decision. The reality is almost certainly that they thought it was a dumb exercise and a waste of time.Heaven knows how many of these kinds of exercises the management have been foisting on them over time. If I had to guess, I'd say Watson (as the VC) finally cracked and called them on their BS, and these guys have backed him up. Khawaja hasn't had a crack this series and has been training his bum off as per Arthur's comments last week and something like this leads to him not playing. Johnson and Pattinson would have been our spearheads this match, i just can't understand this decision.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:12 GMT)

Pick the best team, and team morale will improve. Don't drop players to "work on technique" or improve their attitude. This simply will work against individual and team performance. The best training is playing.

Posted by AshD on (March 11, 2013, 9:12 GMT)

This is rubbish.... Please make Darren Lehmann coach... He will bring up these young kids and show them how to perform like real aussies....

Posted by gptnitesh on (March 11, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Its really pathetic, I think each team member should respect the captain and Coach decision and should do whatever they are aksing to do. Because end of the day captain is the person who is going to take all kind of blames when team fails. But I think, this can not be punishment because australia is already missing good players like ponting and hussey who can win match for them. Now Watson and pattinson will not be part of third test, I do not know what Australian team management want.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

LOL...what to say?Is this is a sport or some english exam.Teacher punishing students for not doing homework.Australian cricket in tatters..These sort of things are done at domestic competitions or under 19 level ,not at this stage.They are making matter worse for themselves by taking out important members of the side.

Posted by bhanuma_nagadeep on (March 11, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Totally debatable incident!!! If the players are helpless, coach should provide the assistance on what needs to be done. ...here, coach is asking the team for future plans and axing them for not replying

On the other hand, players at international level should be aware of the circumstances they are in and should be working on what needs to be done to perform better. ..there is no excuse for not doing anything

A crunch situation for CA... They should look into it deeper...the team is having issues in ownership. ..I think coach also is a faulty

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:11 GMT)

Intriguing......two batsman and two bowlers.......what if the four players would have been ....say.....Warner Cowan Watson and Hughes.....what would they have done.....? Try and make a team with them out......

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:10 GMT)

What on earth is going on. Coach asking the players for advice? I thought Arthur has been employed to come up with a strategy to win games. not the other way around. Has Arthur run out of ideas?

Ananada Amaranath , Sydney, Australia.q

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

i wonder if the four of them had given a thought of axing mickey arthur, as one of the three points but were hesitant to put it down on paper..

Posted by vish57 on (March 11, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

Australian Team management is crazy to consider dropping Watson and Pattinson for non cricketing reasons; the other 2 did not play in either test. Looks australian cricket is a divided house now.

Posted by venkatesh018 on (March 11, 2013, 9:09 GMT)

C'mon Chappelly. Waiting for your response on this nonsense from the Aussie camp.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

These guys aren't over there because they're good at writing essays. They're over there because they are athletes, and nominally the best at what they do in the country. If this was some sort of five-day poetry slam battle I could possibly understand such a stance, but with the team as it stands this is ridiculous. Hughes and Smith are guaranteed places in spite of the fact they are near dead-certs to fail - not based on their performance, but on their ability to pander to a condescending coach. 4-0. No doubt now.

Posted by swauzzie on (March 11, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

hmmmmm I can understand it, but I don't really like it. Taking out our best wicket taking bowling bowling options that we have right now is not doing the team any favours 2-0 down. Taking out Wattto - good idea. Was looking forward to Usman going out & grinding down the Indian attack - he probably won't get a chance at all now. Surely they can send out Harris & Hilfy with Hadds? Please? We can't go inte the 3rd test with only Sids & Stark. Neither have "showed up2 as yet on tour as yet. We can't go in with Hughes JUST because he did his homework! Please ACB, give us a chance to win the game give us 6 batsmen & 4 bowlers that are up to standard! Not just the nerds who did their homework :(

Posted by ihaq1 on (March 11, 2013, 9:08 GMT)

u shud not box yourself into an even bigger corner than u are already in ...however that leaves the team only one decision which one spinner to leave out...anyway i think on tour punishments for a job that is teh captains and coaches essentially is a bit harsh...it would be better for everyone to sit together and discuss what team to play...rather than write down what they think...one liners are really not an appropriate part of a cricketers job...for example those three might think that teh coach and captain are not doing their homework but writing that down is something that could get them into trouble for the rest of clarkes captaincy

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

I couldn't help but laugh at this. Setting homework as to how the team could improve? Here's one for you Mickey, the pitch just doesn't suit Australia and the batting has been very frail. It doesn't require a think-tank or players to talk about their individual or team performances to figure that out. But of course, lets watch Arthur and his cronies gut the Australian Cricket team further.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

Mickey is doing to Team Aussy, what Greg did to Team India. Ensure that team do not have any motivation and then .... no one needs to guess what happens next.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

I believe the team should collectively ask Michael Clark and Mickey Arthur to write an essay on how they have been faring from the time he has been the Coach? what is he school teacher to tell international players like pattinson that he is not giving enough effort to win when he has been the best performer when it comes to bowling in these dry and barren conditions.

Sack the coach CA

Posted by Jacobite on (March 11, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

I don't blame the players. These are hard questions to answer. How can this Australian possibly improve, collectively or individually? They should not be punished for not finding answers to questions that don't have any answers. On the other hand, a bit of tender, loving therapy might help them.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:07 GMT)

Agree with sbansban here. I opened the article dreading what they would've done, while thinking what will happen to the attack sans Pattinson. If Arthur was so desperate to get ideas from players (what should've come from him in the first place) he could've just made them sit together and talk about it. Or just let the captain talk to the team and then discuss with the captain and the manager. Not sure how's he planning to replace the only successful bowler - Pattinson. And feel really bad for Usman; he should've just written "Take me" on the note.

Posted by Nightwing32 on (March 11, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

Everyone should watch the press conference by Mickey Arthur. It is pretty fair, it shows more team morale issues than anything else. They deserve it, kudos to CA. The Australian Cricket Team is one of the prestige teams, you have to earn the Baggy Green. You can't do a simple task which was important, they deserve it. No sympathy.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:06 GMT)

Can anyone say what bigshow, x-man and phill might have written in their presentation ??? I guess drop us and send us home.....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

Mark of true Professionalism!Hats off Team Aussie

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

Good joke why these player did not answer to Mickey Arthur. I think answer is simple bring quality spinners and improve batting skills on spinning tracks and I think its quite impossible for Australia this time better to ask grounds men to prepare hard and bouncy tracks also not possible so another big inning defeat is waiting for Australia in Mohali test

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

This is pathetic from Arthur and co. What are they? School kids? If they are supposed to tell you how to improve, what is your job Mr. Arthur? What are you being paid of?

Posted by yorkslanka on (March 11, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

wow, players being dropped for not completing their homework?whatever next. didnt realise this was a school assignment, here i was thinking they were playing international cricket??Pathetic..obviously, i am not an Aussie and despite that I am fuming at this stupidity, cant think how the Aussie fans must feel...isit me or is it getting like Sri Lanka where the administrators are holding back the team?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:05 GMT)

Surely this is a joke. Usman Khawaja and Mitchell Johnson did not even play any games how are they suppose to give suggestion on their improvements.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

childish ... cannot figure out which party is more spoiled.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

Wow, this is going to be interesting. Pup's had it out for Watson since the Katich dumping. Arthur and Pup have got only themselves to blame for their terrible selections and inconsistency since then, they're going to get zero sympathy from the Australian public for this one, as 99% of the comments here can attest.

Now they're going to be the ones responsible for selecting a test XI with Steve Smith, Glenn Maxwell, Xavier Doherty and Moises Henriques to save the series!

Posted by Busie1979 on (March 11, 2013, 9:04 GMT)

Mickey Arthur has to go. Clarke is out of control. This is ridiculous. Khawaja and Johnson weren't even playing. No wonder the team is not performing and morale is down. This does nothing to encourage up and coming cricketers to play test cricket instead of chasing IPL contracts. Would anyone seriously want to play under these guys with this kind of errant behaviour?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:03 GMT)

So these 4 have been dropped because they did not let Mr Arthur know how this Australian team can be improved. I understand why the management is not happy with these guys but to drop them on this count?? Feel free to shoot yourself in the foot Mr Arthur. As an Indian fan it is amusing to see the roles reversed :-)

Posted by steveg on (March 11, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

Four of Australia's best cricketers dropped for... not being administrators? That's outrageous. I want my coaches to coach, my physios to physio and my cricketers to play cricket. I really don't care if Watson et al can't use PowerPoint.

Crazy, crazy, crazy.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

Hahahaha...No homework no selection!

Posted by Siva_Bala75 on (March 11, 2013, 9:02 GMT)

It can't get funnier. Looks like those wrote a 4 page essay have been selected and those who know only how to bowl or bat have been dropped. Phil Hughes would have written a 40-page essay!

Posted by heartbreakerz on (March 11, 2013, 9:01 GMT)

this is poor stuff from d Oz management, these guys are not school children they are international cricketers n their job is to practice n improve their game at nets during d break between matches they are not there to write reports n notes about their game ...that's d job of d coaching staff.... n why would Johnson n Khwaja write about something when they were not even a part of it

Posted by hycIass on (March 11, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

Arthur has alot to answer for in making this decision, already alot of dicussion about Khawaja not getting the opportunity he deserves and now this will look like another reasonnot pick him as he hasn't played a single game this tour. 4 players stood down. Pattinson (who would have been rested anyway), Johnson (who wasn't going to play), Watson (likely to be dropped anyway) and Khawaja (wasn't going to be picked??). All failed to do their homework, note homework had nothing to do with batting, bowling or fielding. Hmm wonder if these 4 were the players that weren't going to play in the 3rd test anyway. I was a fan of Arthur but this decision is an absolute joke.

Posted by vswami on (March 11, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

The captain is to blame. The Pup ate the homework.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

Forgot to do their homework..... you are kidding!

Posted by cricket_frenzy on (March 11, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

respect the decision of the coach and captain. They may want to bring about a kind of culture which they thought would benefit the team. So players who would have taken it light have now been given a rude awakening.........Or .....or ..(on the lighter side) is it just to give an excuse that a weak team was the reason Aus lost(which will be happening soon) the 3rd and 4th test.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 9:00 GMT)

First Simon Kaitch literally thrown out, then Ricky Pointing eased out, then Hussey's bolt from the blue declaration that is difficult to believe, coming as it is from "Mr Cricket." Then Chris Rogers, (who averages 50 as an opener for the last 9 seasons), Brad Hodge (who has experience), Tim Paine (who was one of the few successes during the last tour to India)... all left out... now Khwaja & Pattison, along with the Vice Captain Watson thrown out..... in the meantime, the goody-goody babies are certified failures such as Huges (who has got out four times without scoring a single run in his last 36 deliveries against spinners), and a proven failure in Ed Cowan..... it is not by accident or fate that Clarke is now indispensable and the only talent in the team.

Posted by DocBindra on (March 11, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

I'm all of team discipline and all but this seems a bit harsh as the "supposed" crime doesn't merit the punishment. The test in Mohali was probably Australia's best chance of winning a test but this will surely hurt their chances. Pattinson is clearly their best bowler and apart from Pup, Watson their most experienced player. There has to be more to this story because it doesn't make sense...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

Dropping 4 key players? like this Australia will loose the next one too. All I can say is that its a ridiculous excuse as a coach for performing badly. You don't need to drop your ace players like that. All four should be in the squad. just because a player didn't answer a few freaking questions and is mentally upset because of the loss, you are further toiling him, so that he gets mentally deranged for the coming matches as well. Mickey Arthur seriously needs to be removed. What a psychopath! And I hope cricinfo publishes this.

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (March 11, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

What is this - back to high school or something? Two of the players didn't even play in the last game, so how can they comment on "individual performances"? For "how to improve the team" were they supposed to write 'PICK ME!'

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:59 GMT)

This seems no less pathetic than our performances on the pitch to date. Shakespeare would have loved this pathos!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

amazing stuff. they were clearly gunning for Watson, siding with cowan against him, and Wattos' form gave them succour. now this. Khawaja never gets picked and Pattinson was due a rest, and they aren't keen on Johnson long term and neither am I, so a mass dropping gets rid of Watson, likely ends his career, gives Clarke the vice captain he wants (Warner?). great stuff.

if it were footy, a true team game, I could understand. why Arthur could not sit down with everyone, individually, is beyond me. it's phoney tough. chest puffed out sort of stuff.

bizarrely, maybe for the best in the long run, but surely selectors can do what needs to be done without all this macho posturing and Buchananism?

Posted by MrKricket on (March 11, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

Someone just mentioned Mickey Arthur as Aus cricket coach is like having Robbie Deans as Aus rugby coach! A double agent indeed!

This is weird. At least Aus cricket has this to look back on as its nadir. "Thing can only get better." Clarke will sack himself as a selector I think.

Posted by Behind_the_bowlers_arm on (March 11, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

I think the management is right to crack down on this slovenly attitude and disinterest. It involved a task that might take 15mins jotting down three points personally and for the team. My other curiousity would be to see Phil Hughes points!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

"The four players failed to meet a deadline of Saturday night to provide feedback to coach Mickey Arthur on how the side can improve after being thrashed in the first two Tests."

Meanwhile Faulkner gets a petty fine swearing in the face of Gayle and Maxwell gets nothing for yelling abuse at Jayawardene. Maybe Matt Cleary should shift focus from the worst Australian Cricket Team to the most worthless, pathetic, utterly incompetent management group that Australia has ever had.

Sorry MA your worthless management is bearing fruit and you grasp at straws hoping that the players can solve your problems. What did you want??

Pattinson would say, "I will bowl faster and straighter, and when I take two wickets in three overs maybe Clarke should let me bowl a fourth?"

Johnson would say, "I can bowl, I can bat and I can field!!"

Khawaja, "Pick me!! Pick me!! PLEEASE PICK ME!!!"

I reckon I know what Wade's first suggestion was, " Get Haddin on a plane!!!"

UTTERLY INCOMPETENT!!!

Posted by Chris_Howard on (March 11, 2013, 8:58 GMT)

Geez, how hard is it to write 3 dot points? Don't these four like admitting there's anything wrong with their game? Well done, Mickey and Clarkey, the Aus team needs some discipline, and it starts off-field.

Posted by SudharsanVM on (March 11, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

What if two more players had not submitted assignment. It would have left only 10 players available for selection depending on WADE's availabilty.

Posted by joseyesu on (March 11, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

Seems silly and a public humilation for all 4 and more to CA. That too Khwaja and Johnson who not figured in any of the match. Is this the way "emailing and texting" to increase the performance. This shows lack of transperency among the players and coach.

Posted by Charlie101 on (March 11, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

If I was Usman Khwaja my suggestion would have been to play me rather than carrying the drinks . Aussies tend to stand up and play well when their backs are against the wall so we shall see what happens in the 3rd test.

Posted by mfarraz on (March 11, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

they are on tour for playing cricket, not for this work giving to them by coach. nice way to distract media from what happened in last 2 tests

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:57 GMT)

Really? Thrown out of the team for not completing a task? Would really want to know from the coach, how many of the players that submitted the 'task' would be able to say they truly believed in it. MY WAY OR HIGHWAY!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

Looks Cric. Australia (CA) wants to give rest to important players for coming 'Ashes series' as CA understood that India is gone. Better to save important players from injuries.

Good Strategy.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

Good that now, Aussies are feeling what other team's dressing rooms used to after crushing defeats.

This will surely cost Oz their chances at - The Ashes.

Posted by Busie1979 on (March 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

The problem with the team is becoming clearer with this mediocre performance by team management. This is outright bullying. Great for morale that one. Here's my three points as to how managers can improve their performance: 1 - Start treating the players like adults 2 - Build (and do not undermine) confidence and trust between players and management 3 - Put responsibility for team performance on the individuals actually playing, rather than the guys carrying the drinks.

Cricket Australia - if you read these blogs, come on... this is pretty amateurish behaviour from Clarke and Mickey Arthur. If you want respect from fans, you CANNOT let this bullying go on.

Posted by jamaku_jamajam on (March 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

Well, is this a strategic ploy from the ever shrewd Aussies to thwart India's preparations ? will they really stand on this decision ?

Posted by ram7708 on (March 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

School students saying forget the home work in the home madam.But truly speaking India team needs this type of punishment for team developing to No.1test team.

Posted by abhijeet65 on (March 11, 2013, 8:56 GMT)

The alibi for loosing the next Test has already been made !! Expect another few not doing their homework for the 4th Test and a few of the supporters getting the Baggy Green..

Posted by PSSidhu on (March 11, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

India should be careful and not get taken in by these Aussie mind games.

Posted by sachin_and_others on (March 11, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

Quest for becoming the best???? Surely its the quest for letting out frustration.....And the saddest part is its a collective decision of three people....How can three people peak their insanity levels at a time?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:55 GMT)

Mickey Arthur must be sacked now!! This is beyond a farce!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:54 GMT)

4-0 anyone? Man of the series for India: Mickey Arthur!!!

Posted by Thyagu5432 on (March 11, 2013, 8:54 GMT)

School kid stuff from Mickey. May be, he forgot to hand over answer sheets to them. Anyway, there is still 3 days to go, these 4 will be asked to stand on the bench for 8 hours and this action will be negated and all of them will be available for selection for the 3rd test.

Posted by straightbreakbowler6 on (March 11, 2013, 8:54 GMT)

Wow this is what it has come to, the poor team selection in not playing horses for courses on the different pitches encounted highlights the lack of clues these selectors have. Things seem to have fallen apart under the Clarke captaincy. He might be a great player but doesnt seem to be able to lead as a captain. There are some serious problems in the Aussie camp and I think that Clarke and the selectors are loosing control of the team as it spirals out of control. Eventually they will run out of players to blame and then they will be in the firing line - Selectors, coach and then the golden boy who seems untouchable. maybe the Clarke generation of being an individual is not the man who can unite a team to have them play as one unit as previous captains did.

Posted by ozwriter on (March 11, 2013, 8:53 GMT)

ask your self this questions, if the 4 players were cowan, hughes, wade and clarke, would mickey have made the same decision? NO, because this kids are his 'friends'

Posted by MenFromMarts on (March 11, 2013, 8:53 GMT)

It isn't about the homework. Most people are missing the point. It is about one thing and one thing only ATTITUDE. It was a test of conviction and commitment. And Watson, Pattinson, Khawaja and Johnson FAILED. We don't know what goes on in that inner circle - they were tested for a reason. Good on Arthur and Clarke. These boys have been acting like boys then - well - treat them like boys.

Posted by AncientAstronaut on (March 11, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

I can't believe I'm reading this. Dropping your best players because they didn't give a business-like presentation is outrageous! I can see India winning this series 4-0 and England winning the Ashes already.

Posted by Mary_786 on (March 11, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

I am sorry but i can't for the life of me the logic behind this decision, they didn't go for a booze, they didn't stay out late, they didn't miss training, they were on a break for the last 3 days and now have been ruled out because they failed to make a presentation on their worth to the team, is this high school again, someone like Khawaja hasn't even played a match yet, Pattinson is our best bowler and Watson is our VC, Arthur will find that this might cost him his job.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

can it be the mind game of aussies to make india think about a quick pitch in mohali and then come back with all pace attack...something seems fishy there

Posted by jmcilhinney on (March 11, 2013, 8:52 GMT)

We obviously don't know everything that went on but I certainly hope that there was far more than just what has been reported because, while I can see what they are trying to achieve, it sounds, on the surface, a bit like cutting off your nose to spite your face. If the instruction was given more than once and the players concerned acknowledged that they needed to comply and still refused then I can see grounds for the disciplinary action but you'd hope that every effort was made to achieve that compliance before such drastic action was taken. If these players knew what was expected of them and just didn't bother then they don't deserve their places. If they outright refused then there's a bigger issue and that is basically a vote of no confidence in the hierarchy and the coach in particular and that won't be fixed quickly or easily. Given the severity of the action taken, it's hard to see how Watson could be considered worthy to maintain the vice-captaincy.

Posted by VicPride on (March 11, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Watson out: OK, he hasn't been doing much. Johnson/Khawaja out: That's fine as they hadn't been used. Pattinson out: NOT GOOD! Only paceman to have had an impact so far from either side!

Posted by BozoSri on (March 11, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

This causes more division within the team rather than actual team building. Pretty sure there was something else behind this and this essay/presentation story is just a cover. Maybe they got boozed up and had a bar fight. Now that would be a line in the sand.

Posted by PYC1959 on (March 11, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

Hahahahaha did not do their homework, naughty boys go stand in the corner and you are not allowed to go outside to play!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:51 GMT)

And we thought handling of the KP saga by ECB or that of Gayle by WICB was ridiculous...

Posted by Shaggy076 on (March 11, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

Not a bad time to instill discipline with the players. Hopefully it has an effect on everyone now to follow team orders whether it is on the field or off the field. The only one that is going to hurt is Pattinson the rest are replaceable and Pattinson was probably due a spell after the number of overs he bowled in the first two tests.

Posted by Aditya.Singh on (March 11, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

For not giving a presentation..... LOL.....

Posted by Pixar6 on (March 11, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

Hey ppl, this is a pure mindgame played by the coach.

I don't think, we need to give too much attention into this matter.

Anyway, the truth will be out in 2 or 3 days...

Posted by shayad on (March 11, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

1.D Warner 2. E Cowan 3. P Hughes 4. M Clarke 5. B Haddin 6. M Henriques 7.S Smith(ls) 8. M Starc (lfm) 9. P Siddle (rfm)10. X Dhoerty(sla) 11. N Lyon(os)

like this means 5 differnt types of bowler in playing 11 plz dont bring maxwell useless spin bowler so called allrounder clarke has no option now after nu. 4 wk then no pure batsman

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:50 GMT)

Hysterical. It's the worst form of naughty boy nets imaginable.

"After the loss inside three and a half days, the coach Mickey Arthur asked every member of the squad to let him know three points on how their individual performances and those of the team could be improved."

...and because some people didn't do their homework, they're out of the side. Can't wait for Warne's reaction to this.

One now has to wonder about Michael Hussey's sudden departure from Australia. Coach related> Quite feasible.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

What utter tripe. These are grown men, not school boys.

The only thing Australia can do to improve their performances in India is to knuckle down with hard work and practice. They need to remain focused - they don't need the distractions that this incident will cause.

Posted by tokoloshe on (March 11, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

"Not doing their homework" is not the point here. Its a matter of respect and all pulling in one direction. Shame on the 4 who could not be bothered to write three lines on a piece of paper and send it to the coach. Why could the rest do it and they could not be bothered and although Khawaja wasn't playing he was part of the squad.

Posted by 158notout on (March 11, 2013, 8:49 GMT)

although one significant piece of collateral damage from this fallout is that Hughes probably won't be dropped. At least there is a silver lining there for India and England.

Posted by TheCricketeer on (March 11, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

When rumours first surfaced that Mickey Arthur was going to coach the Aussies I laughed. As a South African my respect for Australian cricket could not bring me to believe they would hire this guy. When they did I had to rethink my opinion on Mickey Arthur. Maybe I had it wrong. Australian Cricket only work with the best surely?

Now it seems I am reconsidering my view on Australian Cricket. When will they get rid of this clown.

Posted by Aristotle01 on (March 11, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

Ooooh my God...What do my Aussie friends gave to say to this? I would love to hear your opinion! I am really keen to know what you guys think of this decision! This is serious as I dont think the team management can now backtrack on their decision and include these players as they have already said to the media that this will be final! They canot backtrack on their decision now as it will make them look weak and powerless. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR FEEDBACK!:):)

Posted by Mitty2 on (March 11, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

Well, on the positive side.. At least we have a ready made excuse for when we lose!!!

Just when there's reports that its possible for pace, we lose our two best bowlers for Indian conditions. Patto for pace an johno for his record. This series is just getting better and better.

Feel so bad for khawaja though, how is he meant to succeed hussey when he can't make the team? When he so obviously should be in it? He is a much better batsmen to Watson and Maxwell. this will only dent his confidence further.

Clarke needs to bat at three now, and what's horrible is that Hughes cannot be dropped now. What's even worse is that Steven smith will be back. This management and selection panel is killing our team. Oh, and our keeper will bat at 5..... If Maxwell gets selected i will lose the plot.

XI: 1 Cowan 2 Warner 3 Clarke 4 Hughes 5 Haddin 6 henriques 7 smith 8 siddle 9 starc 10 Lyon 11 doherty

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

If the reason being floated around is true, then it is totally pathetic.. It is Mickey Arthur who must know what they add to the team... If he wanted them to realize that, he should have talked with them.. These players are here to play... not to make presentations or send out self-analysis mails... Missing a match practice or missing a team meeting can be considered as disciplinary excess... but not making a presentation.. I think it is high - handed and over the top.. It's Mickey Arthur who said their batsmen would attack Indian spinners... It's he who had put added pressure on them... If at all a presentation is to be made, it is he who should make a presentation for why he is still the coach of the team...

Posted by phunny_game on (March 11, 2013, 8:48 GMT)

People were expecting pace at mohali... Guess what, only two fast bowlers available for aus now...!!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

lol can't stop laughing Australians fire players for not doing their homework

Posted by Siva_Bala75 on (March 11, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

This is ridiculous. In less than a minute, my home work would have been completed. Would have just texted my 3 points: One…Bat well, Two…Bowl well and three…Field well.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:47 GMT)

Dropped for not doing their homework. You are kidding CA.

I'm so glad football season has started here. I can't handle this nonsense from CA anymore. They have absolutely lost the plot.

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (March 11, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

Hahaa! I was already having a big laugh after Wade reportedly "twisted" his ankle/knee after playing Basketball and now CA has shot "4" bullets in its own foot by this un-pragmatic decision.

Yes, discipline has its place every where, but you musn't shoot yourself in the foot.

Posted by 158notout on (March 11, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

darn it, the more i read all these weird tales of woe the more convinced I am becoming that Australia will regain the Ashes. I mean come on, it has Hollywood written all over it - team faces adversity and internal struggles, but the male lead pulls them all together and takes the team to the most unlikely of victories in spite of lack of quality individuals and a massive amount of outsider meddling. Gah.

Posted by mthw on (March 11, 2013, 8:46 GMT)

This isn't a "piece of homework"... This is these guys careers and while they are on tour they should be focused 100%... Hey, I not sure if a 1 match suspension is necessary. But I cant believe firstly, that the vice captain didn't complete this pretty simple task, it shows obviously how focused he is... Then secondly I cant believe MJ and Ussie weren't the first to complete the task and get to the coach.. If I had been standing on the sidelines watching my team mates being thrashed in the first 2 tests I would have been hammering on the coaches door selling my strengths to get a game.

Posted by pvsanand on (March 11, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

I have heard that Australians have a weird sense of humor. witnessing it for the first time!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:45 GMT)

everyone seems to be saying how shocking it is that they are dropped for something so little, but really, how easy would it be to complete this task! It shows a complete disregard for basic instruction, no wonder they cannot apply themselves in the middle.

Posted by Yuji9 on (March 11, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

Ha ha so the next XI is a team of teacher's pets! But I wonder what they said about eachother? Three cheerrs and free beers for Watto, Patto, Johnno and Ussie!!! True Australian spirit and solidarity in refusing to comply with Arthur's ludicrous idea of team building! The dislike the team has with Arthur is so blatantly obvious I bet the whole squad is feeling as frustrated with the idea of Arthur determining Australian selection policies as the rest us of back home - Free the 4!

Posted by maverick77 on (March 11, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

MJ and UK had no excuse, they could have finished the essay in one sentence - "play me if you want to win!!!!"

They ought to be pinished...:)

Posted by Sunman81 on (March 11, 2013, 8:44 GMT)

May be they don't have any points... lol seems bit harsh to drop a player for failing to provide a presentation...

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (March 11, 2013, 8:43 GMT)

I now know why they were axed and have to say that that is absolutely completely and utterly disgusting. They weren't out drinking, they weren't out late, they weren't swearing at anyone - they just didn't do their homework. What on earth? Why does it matter if they did their homework or not? What does that have to do with playing cricket? Cricket Australia, wake up to yourselves! Set your priorities straight. If you want to punish players, make sure it is for a real reason, not something like this. You have now lost your best bowler in the series, Pattinson, as well as the only man who could have replaced him, Johnson, and 2 others that were likely to feature in the 3rd test. Now you have nobody to pick from.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

The last time management tried the whole discipline thing the ECB sacked KP. We all know what happened and who won. I hope CA comes back to its senses and stop this heavy handedness.

Posted by Cric_god_Sachin on (March 11, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

What a SHAME !! This must be embarassing for the Kangarooz...They are just not ble to put a fight..A Lot more was expected from this 'wana b # 1' team...Pathetic show so far..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:42 GMT)

It's easy to attack the selectors, but look at it this way. These guys are 2-0 down and they need to make sure every player is on board with the situation, so by giving them this very simple instruction they can address which players are more desperate to play and which aren't. By not submitting this these four players are basically saying to the selectors that they aren't focused and dedicated to the team. If you hand in work after a deadline in an office job you suffer consequences, why should this be any different?

Posted by zenboomerang on (March 11, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

Slightly amused that the players couldn't fulfill Mickey's demands :- "The four players failed to meet a deadline of Saturday night to provide feedback to coach Mickey Arthur on how the side can improve after being thrashed in the first two Tests"....

Answer:- Mickey, select players that can actually bat or get wickets... Or ask the captain & chief of selectors why they give you a B grade team for Indian conditions...

Posted by abhitupe on (March 11, 2013, 8:39 GMT)

I think with just possible 13 players remaining, whoever does not make to the XI, it would hamper the morale of those 2 players significantly. But their policies are much better than some rubbish ECB policies. I think at this point they would be helpless to take this harsh stance. You may just witness one of the finest comebacks, when things are not going their way, their resolve just gets stronger.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

Well that means Australia has to choose 3 players from Steve Smith, Glenn Maxwell, Nathan Lyon and Xavier Doherty to play at Mohali, bad luck for Aussies, and good luck for India, as all four i.e Watson, Khwaja, Pattinson and Johnson would have played at Mohali. Now India will only have to worry about Siddle and Starc, so the Australians will be forced to play, Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Henriques, Haddin, Smith, Maxwell, Siddle, Starc, Lyon, leaving out Doherty and the injured Wade

Posted by MonkeyBooBoo on (March 11, 2013, 8:38 GMT)

The question is why didn't they fill in their homework. Sounds like dissention in the ranks. Then again maybe the dog ate it.

Posted by vatsap on (March 11, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

Amazing from Australian cricket. I never thought they would have punished Andy Symonds the way they did. Except for Shane Warne/Mark Waugh getting away with a mild rap in the 90s the Aussies seem pretty tough on discipline. Other teams need to learn. Discipline matters.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:37 GMT)

Blistering barnacles!!!!! I thought BCCI was the craziest board around..!!!

Posted by muthu4664 on (March 11, 2013, 8:36 GMT)

Hats of you Cricket Australia. Wonderful Gesture for Arrogant & indiscipline Players.Ths not even can be Imagined with other Cricket boards.

Posted by JoieDeVivre on (March 11, 2013, 8:35 GMT)

Very hard to believe this. Incredible, I mean is the game of cricket not simple? Score more runs then your opposition and take 20 wickets. All this talk of presentation, mental toughness is codswallop to say the least. You pick cricketers based on their ability to bat, bowl and hold on their catches. Don't believe Shane Warne and Steve Waugh were best of buddies nor were MS Dhoni or VVS Laxman and quite frankly you don't need to be. You are selected to play the game and do a silly presentation. This is now going to become a massive joke in India to start with and wait for English media and the cricketers to join in the fun. I don't what this sort of thing does to team building and team culture the coach has been talking about. Really feel sorry for the 4 cricketers.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:34 GMT)

If ABC's right -- this is ridiculous! So Arthur's run out of ideas, he wants the players to write an essay on how to improve by Saturday night! Like Micheal above has said, fine them or give them fifty push ups each while carrying Arthur on the back..... Him and selectors thus far have blundered by failing to put the best 11 on the field. You couldn't have expected 2 spinners who average over 40 in the shield to come and take wickets against the best batters of spin in the world. the formula worked for England coz they do have decent spinners. South Africa on the other hand have done well in India on the strength of their pace. May be this "disciplinary action" automatically solves their headaches now, as there is now no selecting to do! Is it possible to concede a test before it starts?

Posted by Nightwing32 on (March 11, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

Surely it isn't hard to do notes in 5 days right? They deserve it. Has to be something else as well to add to this. Team Morale must be low because Clarke has to make the decisions as well.

Posted by stormer1980 on (March 11, 2013, 8:33 GMT)

Well Done Mickey Arthur .. trying to be strict and all that nonense ... LOL .. glad u left SA ... Aurthur is a almost did it kinda guy ... and then does silly things like this ... Instead of roping in experience from guys like Warne , Waugh , McGrath and co , you got them doing homework ? ... Then they give Gary Kirsten flack for giving his boys a few days off on tour to go out and do what they feel like doing to relax .

Posted by sbansban on (March 11, 2013, 8:32 GMT)

OMG - when I first read this I thought they must have done something really serious - like getting on the wrong side of local law enforcement or something to force the team management to inflict such a serious blow to their own chances in the third test, but when I read that it's for not submitting a very silly-sounding essay (!!!!!) - I can scarcely believe what I am reading. This entirely unnecessary, ego-driven self-inflicted damage by the coach and the team management is the very definition of going from the sublime to the ridicuous. The world used to look up to Australian cricket and their cricket management with awe - but now they both are fast becoming the laughing stock of the world!!! Other than perhaps England, I can't think of any other team in world cricket that could act so strangely.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:32 GMT)

This is just pure rubbish. I actually thought when this news first came through that these players were out partying or capsizing pedalos or boozing on the streets of Chandigarh. Not submitting three points regarding what they bring to the team? Thats rubbish. I cannot imagine cricketing brains like Pup's to come up with such utter garbage. Actually, I am pretty sure that no cricketer came up with this. This looks like the handiwork of someone with a management degree and not an iota of idea about what goes on on a pitch. Out there, you need to play cricket. Grit your teeth, and fight it out on the pitch. What the hell has writing reports got anything to do with it? Australia are losing matches because most of their players lack the technique, the skill and the stomach to really put up a fight. Writing reports won't help the state of said stomachs, or their techniques. Discipline is good, but discipline without purpose is pedantry, and it doesn't serve any purpose.

Posted by satishchandar on (March 11, 2013, 8:32 GMT)

So now, i read the reason for ousting 4 players. Not submitting how to improve? Will you ask inexperienced Khawaja and Pattinson on how to improve? Or Johnson who didnt play any game? Then why do u pay for all the bunch of support staffs for? Do agree with Watson as he is a senior pro in the team..

Ideally, CA should come in and axe the guys whoever took such a silly decision. Were the decision makers working as drill masters in lower schools?

Posted by Rotormaster on (March 11, 2013, 8:32 GMT)

We are are already the laughing stock of world cricket, this just confirms it, bring on Lehmann as coach !

Posted by shovwar on (March 11, 2013, 8:31 GMT)

Australians are losing their head now. It has been a huge drop from greatness and now staring at a whitewash. Clearly understandable...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

Does that mean if i give a strong presentation I'm in !! Gettin my powerpoints ready guys ,,,, lol this is hilarious stuff from the aussies !!

Posted by amvm on (March 11, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

I doubt if it is just discipline I would rather term it dictatorship or showing their frustration with such an immature decision making the team even more vulnerable. If the Management were ever so concerned about discipline they wont have let their players show one of worst behaviour on field.

Posted by AvilashSharma on (March 11, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

And so Aus are going to get whitewashed here...good thing for India though...

Posted by Shivang_sen on (March 11, 2013, 8:30 GMT)

Atrocious! School boy stuff! Usman Khwaja did not even feature in any of the tests, why should he be writing a 'thrashing memoir' at the very first place! Aussies need to get their act together here..

Posted by ContentmentISGood on (March 11, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

How come they did not get away with a warning or a match pentalty? Seems pretty harsh on those players. Would CA have taken the action if more than 6 players had not submitted the assignment? It just seems the selectors are so frustrated with themselves, they don't know what they are doing.

Posted by Narbavi on (March 11, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

And for those of you who don't know what smh is, its the 'sydney morning herald' they are talking about

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

I just read the article on the SMH and I don't think this is as simple as punishment for not doing your homework.

It sounds like there is an attitude issue in the squad and the management team are trying to break it down. I guess one of the consequences of all the money these guys make is they start feeling like rock stars and then the games become more about them and less about the team. Watching the unravelling of the team in the first two tests seems to back that assertion up. Really poor shot selection and a lack of patience has plagued the Australian batting.

The fact that the management likened it to the Andy Flowers/Kevin Pietersen breakdown means it is a lot more serious than homework IMHO.

Posted by PYC1959 on (March 11, 2013, 8:29 GMT)

Suspended for not doing a written review on the last test I hear. Come on CA This is not U13's these are grown men who need to be practising in the nets not writing essays, no wonder Australian cricket is going backwards.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:28 GMT)

shocking.. Australian cricket at its lowest ebb.

Posted by Yuji9 on (March 11, 2013, 8:28 GMT)

Enough is enough - Arthur must go!!! This is the biggest joke in the history of the Baggy Green and it is coming about because of a South African control freak with no idea of what he's dong!!! This should never have been allowed to happen and this bloke is ripping the team apart - What more evidence do we need that our players blame him for this mess - ARTHUR MUST GO!!!

Posted by slogtocowcorner on (March 11, 2013, 8:27 GMT)

Australian cricket is going down the slippery slop a lot faster then we all feared. We need some positive direction and action at the helm. We want Warnie, We want Warnie!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:26 GMT)

Dropped for not doing their homework. What a joke. Series already lost so the selectors dont mind throwing their weight around. I hope all this discipline is worth the humiliation that we will suffer after the next test

Posted by GeoffreysMother on (March 11, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

It sounds very much like there is a breakdown of trust between players and management. I would be surprised if they four failures to report were isolated. Following the on field punishment of the squad after the last test, the public humiliation of the number one spinner, and the surprise retirement of Hussey there seem to be some real underlying issues - perhaps with Arthur but also with Clarke's off field captaincy. The fact that this involves young players such as Pattinson and Khawaja make this particularly worrying. I expect Pattinson to invoke his Grimsby roots and be playing for England in the Ashes by the summer!

Posted by vivekrathee9792@gmail.com on (March 11, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

Good to listen that there is still one team in world which is maintaining or trying to maintain discipline in team but bad news in the shape of exclusion of pattinson and watson as Mohali track was the best for their liking,But still all the best to Oz team and hopefully they will come out with something good in this match.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

4-0 fr sure nw.If Australian selectors has some sense then they could bring Shaun Marsh & Voges back in squad as cover.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

forgot to write homework....

Posted by Acetone on (March 11, 2013, 8:25 GMT)

Mickey Arthur is quite a easily frustable teacher. Glad he wasn't my teacher back in school.

Posted by MartinC on (March 11, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

Comedy gold!

Dropping them for not completing a questionnaire (if true) seems a bit harsh. Fine them - make them clean boots for a couple of days but to leave them out? Maybe a bit more to this story than just what is being suggested. That said Pattinson is the only one they will miss.

I guess they HAVE to play 2 spinners now ......if only they had two .....

Posted by jwayong on (March 11, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

Australian selectors have no clue what their own players bring to the team! sack the freakin selectors! this is the funniest joke ever! i was double checking my calendar to ensure this is not 1st of April 2013!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:24 GMT)

With available players the team looks more balanced with 2 seamers , 2 spinners, and 3 all rounders than the one picked for 2 test. Though clarke will face the heat to shoulder the batting line up, in absence of watson but given the form of watson, that should not bee a problem. Also with hadding flying in the batting seems strengthened. Major concern is Pattison missing out who looked to take wickets every time he came to bowl.

Posted by Sachit1979 on (March 11, 2013, 8:23 GMT)

Australians are here to dig their on grave and everything is going as per plan right from the team selection to practice to plan for the match and eventually results so far in the series. Indians are just helping them achieve their objective.

Posted by Bhrams on (March 11, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

Me thinks its a ploy by the Australian management to deceive their Indian counterparts, only to spring a surprise on the first morning by playing all four. Not as incredulous as it sounds, eh?!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:22 GMT)

Well this makes complete sense, sure drop the boys for "miss-conduct" if that's what they've did! But honestly really Watson must of done something unthinkable to cause selectors make such a call! Watson is important, runs or no runs his experience along with Clarke and hopefully Haddin for the third test would of really put the boys a step closer to at least competing!

Posted by satishchandar on (March 11, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

Pattinson axed? Johnson axed? So how are you going to play the next game? With all the non performers grouped together? Or flow in your replacements in same plane along with Haddin? Pattinson will be certainly missed and Johnson i think was in decent form and might have made difference to the team. How stupid Khawaja would have been to do such a thing when he is almost certain to make it to the team after this much hurdles. Wade is almost certain to be out due to injury. Among the 12 available for selection, we got two players who were dropped last game and three players who were almost certain to be dropped for next game in Hughes, Doherty and Maxwell. Who among the 12 will miss out? I assume either Smith or Maxwell or Doherty.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

Its a disaster for Australia....Now there is a huge burden on Clarke

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

It's a joke. Management asked for opinions and these four remained silent. What a joke. And I am an Indian fan.

Posted by sanjeevmukherjee2006 on (March 11, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

Wat was the breach? Please can any1explain

Posted by Apocalypse_EX on (March 11, 2013, 8:21 GMT)

Pattinson's name in that list will hurt the Aussies big time. Khawaja's too. Phil Hughes should try buying a lottery ticket today.

Posted by Vivekaks on (March 11, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

Wow...I think OZs can forfeit the last 2 tests and hand over the border gavaskar trphy to india. Watson, apart from Clarke was the only other batsman to instill any sort of fear among indian bowlers. now he is gone too. So India is going to win the FOUR match series FIVE-NIL....such will be the void left by these two....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

what is going on? hoping this punishment fits the crime..what could have these 4 possibly done?..13 players to choose from ...4-0 looks like a real possibilty..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

its a good decision by the management. Atleast BCCI should learn how to manage arrogant and callous players

Posted by Meety on (March 11, 2013, 8:20 GMT)

Wonder who will be the vice captain? I thought Watto was heading home after the 3rd test anyways? Pity one of the 4 players wasn't Doherty & SO'K could of been sent over. My side of what remains 1. Warner, 2. Hughes, 3. Clarke (c), 4. Smith, 5. Henriques, 6. Maxwell, 7. Wade/Haddin, 8. Starc, 9. Siddle, 10. Lyon, 11. Doherty. 12th Cowan. == == == Personally, if it is a significant breach - send them home, if not fine them & let some play. MJ has a pretty good record for discipline, so I'd excuse him. Then again this is based on ZERO knowledge of what went on. == == == I would prefer that IF the breach was minor, they just not get selected - rather than being "axed". If the publicity machine wants to go to the trouble of announcing ill-discipline - then name what it was they did wrong.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:19 GMT)

Perhaps they had trouble in using powerpoint..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:19 GMT)

how does it matter?? Wato and pattinson played in last 2 test and didnt impress a lot and i dont know what M.johnson is doing in the team? He is just an ordinary bowler who can take wkts only in perth Feel bad 4 khawaja though

Posted by gbh250 on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

If the news reports are right, this is an absolute joke. Punishing them for failing to respond well to being treated like naughty children. If "getting feedback" was so important to Micky Arthur, why didn't he just sit down with them and have a chat?

I've completely lost confidence in Arthur. Poor results, and now this. Time to go.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

Totally ridiculous, regardless of the protocol, you don't "axe" 4 shoe-ins(as far as im concerned) for the playing XI... unless they committed some sort of crime. I hope this is the end of the Selectors and their mates-first selection criteria. All 4 should be playing, I hope they are starting to rebel against these idiots in charge of the team.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

This sums up why Australia is a second-rate cricket team. It's a Test cricket team being run like a backwater government office. Two best bowlers and two of the best batsmen sacked for not answering emails - are you serious?

Posted by Kernas on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

they were suspended for not submitting a review on how terrible they are, and what the coach has to do to improve the culture - this is my paraphrasing of the coaches statement. the coach obviously doesn't know the answer to the teams failures (he doesn't have a mirror (Shane can lend you one of his). Seems a bit severe for not writing a report. Bad to worse with this coach. No comment needed about Watson.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

Disipline 1st even if its nothing to do in the feild. Weldone CA. SLC should learn from these.

Posted by Jimmyrob83 on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

I'm done with supporting Australian cricket.

Posted by mrpfister on (March 11, 2013, 8:18 GMT)

Absolutely pathetic. To be left out of a Test match for not having done a piece of homework is just unbelievable. It seems even cricket can't escape the tide of management nonsense sweeping the world. It's the team management that should have been sacked, not the players. I am seething, and I'm an England fan!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

Disipline 1st even if its nothing to do in the feild. Weldone CA. SLC should learn from these.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

Nothing to worry ab aussie., Now its cool., henriques and smith(my favouryt duo) in the middle., opening will give chance to hughes to regain., bowling is the only department to worry,. without two known fast specialist johnson & pattinson., Anyway aussie can try with lyon in or starc.,. Coming to india., dhawan & vijay opening are most awaiting situatn ., ishant needs a break., can anyone occupy his place please.,

Posted by maverick77 on (March 11, 2013, 8:17 GMT)

Courier Mail Asutralia says: "In a landmark day for Australian cricket, coach Mickey Arthur revealed the quartet have been stood down for one match for not taking part in a written review following the side's heavy innings defeat in the second Test".

This sounds silly and harsh....

Posted by matchfixerpkn on (March 11, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

doesnt mind..win or loss.. discipline is first priority...well done board australia..this is best lesson what arrongatn players can learn..

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

Anything to keep Khawaja out of the team.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:16 GMT)

this is very bad....now surely aus will loose next match...but what a chance to maxwell,huges,henriqes,and may be steven smith.all happn for a reson........al d best auses.......

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

play wade as a bat and give haddin the gloves or other way round

Posted by Ozcricketwriter on (March 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

This reminds me of the over-reaction to Mitchell Marsh being out drinking the night before practice, which led to him dumped from the international squad, and then later when he did the same thing in the Champions League, he and others were dumped from the Western Australian squad. A similar thing even happened to Dan Christian, which prevented him from being in the Australian squad. This is absolutely absurd. These guys might be frustrated at how badly the team is going but to punish them is just shooting yourself in the foot. Did it help when they did it to Mitchell Marsh? Did it help Andrew Symonds? Punishments can help but only when they are fair and work in favour of the player and the team. This is not an appropriate punishment, not at all.

Posted by CricketZone.in on (March 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

with wade doubtful and haddin flying in... aus in deep trouble. Pattinson and watson were a must for the third test

Posted by SlipsGlance on (March 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

According to the ABC site: "The four players failed to meet a deadline of Saturday night to provide feedback to coach Mickey Arthur on how the side can improve after being thrashed in the first two Tests."

!!!!!!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:15 GMT)

We have to have the worst selectors in the world righ now.

Posted by Raja_Udhayasuriyan on (March 11, 2013, 8:14 GMT)

Good job CA! Well done! Discipline before victory is fine, but axing for not answering a team questionnaire...hmmm.... Now is where India shouldnt take them lightly..... If India think they ve won the match even before its played its foolishness and they ll lose wickets to the likes of Maxwell and Smith..If India play sensibly, we ll see a rare whitewash involving Australia on the wrong side of the scoreline!

Posted by SherjilIslam on (March 11, 2013, 8:14 GMT)

R U FOR SURE????????? Steve Smith is going to play the next match, would be the biggest joke of the year so far!!! I hope Haddin brings some luck and performance with him to save the Aussies from further humiliation.

Posted by Bonehead_maz on (March 11, 2013, 8:14 GMT)

ROFL - well that's one way to give Hughes another game this series !

Inventive stuff :)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:13 GMT)

Is Micky Arthur serious? Would he apply the same punishment if it left not enough players to fill a team? Of course not!! Fine them their tour fee, make them peel oranges, clean the spikes of the other players but you can't damage the AUSTRLIAN TEST TEAM by banning a quarter of your squad. This team represents the people of Australia and by putting in a diminsihed team it dishonours our history and our opposition. If you are going to ban them from the test - send them home and fly in replacements. Its the management of this team that needs to change.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:13 GMT)

SMH says they were suspended for not turning in their homework... i am not even joking

Posted by JHAXI on (March 11, 2013, 8:13 GMT)

Now, what have they done to get penalized like this. Waiting eagerly for the details. Without Watson(Whatever form he is going through) and Pattinson, it seems CA has decided to lose the series by third test comprehensively.

Posted by teabreak on (March 11, 2013, 8:13 GMT)

What is the reason? All 4 of them were definitely going to be in the team for the next match. This is a huge blow. Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Haddin, Henriques, Maxwell, Siddle, Starc, Lyon, Doherty. This is the possible line up now. Looks weak both in batting and bowling.

Posted by RaadQ on (March 11, 2013, 8:12 GMT)

Hmmm... The (pseudo) science department prob wanted to rest pattison to prevent injury, watson is performing poorly with the bat and cannot bowl, johnson wouldn't be selected anyways and Aus have always treated khawaja's test career poorly. I'm waiting on the details to see what did these guys actually do...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:12 GMT)

it's time to axe the selectors as well

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:12 GMT)

No idea what happened but this is just another kick in the teeth for a pathetic tour. We gain from axing Watson, we lose massively from axing Pattinson. Pattinson gone means the only dangerous bowler is removed and hence will most likely mean another couple of innings defeats. At least squad selection is far simpler! Of the twelve available players take out Doherty (who should never ever play the international long form game again) and job done.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

and the best part is Phillip Hughes is not among them :D

Posted by Masoodabbas on (March 11, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

Arthur said Watson and Pattinson, as well as Usman Khawaja and Mitchell Johnson, had failed to deliver a presentation which management asked all players to complete following the embarrassing innings defeat in Hyderabad last week. Players were asked to outline three points on what they bring to the team by email or in person, and given five days to complete the task. The four players did not complete the assignment by the given deadline.

Posted by saurabhgreenc on (March 11, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

This is what.....we can't do in India.....we should take a lesson from them......

Posted by Shaxhome on (March 11, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

From today's SMH... "Australian vice captain Shane Watson and fast bowler James Pattinson are among four players sensationally dumped from calculations for Thursday's third Test against India for a breach of team discipline.

Coach Mickey Arthur and team manager Gavin Dovey made the stunning announcement on Monday afternoon as Australia continued preparations for the third leg of the series, which they trail 2-0.

Arthur said Watson and Pattinson, as well as Usman Khawaja and Mitchell Johnson, had failed to deliver a presentation which management asked all players to complete following the embarrassing innings defeat in Hyderabad last week.

Players were asked to outline three points on what they bring to the team by email or in person, and given five days to complete the task. The four players did not complete the assignment by the given deadline."

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:10 GMT)

Mohali and Delhi will miss Pattinson and Watsong for sure....

Posted by Timmuh on (March 11, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

What did they do? It must have been serious for Pattinson to get excluded. Watson should be gone anyway; plus wasn't he supposed to be coming home for his child's birth; and Johnson should never have been on the tour. Khawaja should have been in the team but won't be, and as the selectors seem to hate him anyway he probably would not have played no matter what. It was headed for 4-0 anyway, but now Smith is liely to get picked. Shocking squad selection going awry yet again.

Posted by abhinav218 on (March 11, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

For the record - A whitewash looms... yippie... can't wait for 4-0...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

I make that as Aussie down to 13, 2 of which are keepers and one's carrying an injury:

http://www.espncricinfo.com/india-v-australia-2013/content/squad/602856.html

Michael Clarke Ed Cowan Phillip Hughes David Warner

Brad Haddin Matthew Wade

Steven Smith Moises Henriques Glenn Maxwell

Peter Siddle Mitchell Starc

Xavier Doherty Nathan Lyon

Posted by HowdyRowdy on (March 11, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

I hope that the following news states that the selectors have also breached protocol and are being suspended for the rest of the tour.

Posted by sixers_98 on (March 11, 2013, 8:08 GMT)

It's good for india that johnson and pattinson and watson are not playing cause johnson is the one who swings the ball along with starc and the mohali pitch favours pace a little more than spin. Pattinson has speed but he is not swing baller like johnson, kulasekara, malinga.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:07 GMT)

"Players were asked to outline three points on what they bring to the team by email or in person, and given five days to complete the task. The four players did not complete the assignment by the given deadline." Hahahahaha most ridiculous thing ive heard in a while...

Posted by drewhoo on (March 11, 2013, 8:04 GMT)

The smh says they "had failed to deliver a presentation which management asked all players... outline three points on what they bring to the team by email or in person"

What an absolute joke, fire them for one little primary school assignment that has no bearing on their ability as a cricketer... and in the case of johnson and khawaja, they havent even played yet so have nothing to answer for yet.

Yeah really good strategy to win a third test... sigh

Posted by SirBobJones on (March 11, 2013, 8:02 GMT)

SMH says they didn't write something they had to do by a certain deadline, something about outlining what they bring to the team. Sounds like punishment for not doing some homework, how ridiculous.

Posted by bilalshak on (March 11, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

good news for hughes though

Posted by Engr.TahirShah on (March 11, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

What a "BROKEN" News. This is great on behalf of CA and its tour management. Feel very sorry these players will not play in the next test, but what a lesson. Discipline comes firs, is a good rule. Well done CA.

Posted by ozwriter on (March 11, 2013, 8:01 GMT)

phil hughes must be the happiest man in the world now. he has gone from must drop player to being in the team if watson and khawaja aren't there

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 8:00 GMT)

I do not consider this to be a big issue for Australia. Adhering to code of conduct is important and non-negotiable. This is same as any professional workplace, why should it be different for cricket team?

Posted by ozwriter on (March 11, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

this is rubbish. since mickey arthur in charge we've only heard ridiculous selections, training methods and now it seems 'protocols'.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

Oops I'm sorry Watto, I was coming to see you at Mohali :(

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:59 GMT)

So, there's one team which is built on discipline, hard work and character and the management has "Zero Tolerance" for rubbish behavior. They get dropped from the next Test.

On the other hand we have a lazy, irresponsible and totally out of form Opener, who gets dropped after infinite chances from the team and People make fuss about it.

The difference--

Posted by bighit14 on (March 11, 2013, 7:58 GMT)

What happened exactly? Will someone throw some light on this?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:58 GMT)

Geez....This team can break all records for sure......Just the one record that they cannot break is a 5-0 whitewash....Guess why?????only 4 tests in this series...thats why.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:57 GMT)

Watch out for the wounded team... It will surely come hard against India... If not this Aussie team will miss out on the glamour and the steel that is well known off them... Adversary brings the best from a tough warrior/team.. lets hope for the best..Go on Clarke and co.... Dhoni and co beware off this lot... Any how best wishes to my team India...

Posted by Big-Dog on (March 11, 2013, 7:57 GMT)

They should just send the whole miserable lot home. Australias selectors ensured they would fail anyway.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:57 GMT)

what the hell is going on with the aussies

Posted by ooper_cut on (March 11, 2013, 7:57 GMT)

I would say all 4 of them were picking themselves for the next test. How bad could this be to axe them ? Feel very bad for the Ozzies.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

What on earth!? What did they do? Australia can't afford to lose Pattinson AND Johnson in their pace departments. Siddle + Starc doesn't look great in the subcontinent, and I really thought they'd play Johnson in the next game. And no Khawaja and Watson? Joy, at least we'll get to see Hughes again. What fun. Perhaps they should blame the whole thing on Hughes and do the team a favour (Have nothing against the guy, he just seems a bit rubbish in our conditions is all)

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

Oz will struggle in third test for sure without key players

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

What was the breach? What actually happened there?

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

The Ausies break everything but the jinx of winning ....

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:56 GMT)

This tour is a debacle. Phil Hughes' coach comes out and slags the preparation. Blokes arrive at different times. One tour match which some Test players didn't play in. Too many players twiddling their thumbs when they would be better playing Shield cricket. No plan by the selectors. Typical ill discipline all-round. Should end a couple of careers here......

Posted by scottyg on (March 11, 2013, 7:55 GMT)

phil hughes will be a relieved man- one more chance now

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:55 GMT)

Australia will miss Pattinson. Others not that important. Watson is useless if he is not going to bowl.

Posted by DiamondMohit on (March 11, 2013, 7:55 GMT)

what team orders they fail to comply...?

Posted by Aristotle01 on (March 11, 2013, 7:54 GMT)

Ooooh my God...What do my Aussie friends gave to say to this? I would love to hear your opinion! I am really keen to know what you guys think of this decision! This is serious as I dont think the team management can now backtrack on their decision and include these players as they have already said to the media that this will be final! They canot backtrack on their decision now as it will make them look weak and powerless. PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR FEEDBACK!:):) The Aus managment is big on team discipline to the extent that they actually ban players from playing in TEST!??? LOL... What the hell did they actually do? This is interesting!!!! HOW CAN YOU BAN 3 KEY PLAYERS??? this means that Hughes will still play!!???

Posted by BatsmanWhoBowls on (March 11, 2013, 7:52 GMT)

That's it. That's just it. I cannot believe it. I couldn't care less about Watson in his current form and with his incredibly up-himself attitude (generally a necessary trait for an international sports player but just over the top with no substance at the moment), but Khawaja should have been in the team from Chennai day one, and short of actually killing someone, Pattinson should be untouchable, he and Cummins are probably the best blooded young talents in Australian cricket. Steve Smith and Glenn Maxwell will each need to take a very economical five-for or score a double century for me to think their positions (I assume they'll both be chosen unfortunately) are justified. Then again, the players have been treated so poorly (especially Khawaja), being forced to look over their shoulders with the rotation policy and other such events, that it was just a matter of time before something like this happened. Words cannot express my fury, anger and the other similar emotions I now feel.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:52 GMT)

why

Posted by tintaman on (March 11, 2013, 7:51 GMT)

Oh fantastic. Smith gets another bloody undeserved game on the basis that there is literally no-one else to play (actually if Wade is fit they could play Haddin?). Basically forces them to play two spinners again with Siddle and Starc the only fit fast bowlers. Not sure if I want this to be something that deserves such a penalty (indicating a long-term issue) or not (indicating an inflexible system).

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:50 GMT)

omg without these players match will not be so good to watch...

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:50 GMT)

that might be a big blow to aussies considering its mohali not delhi where they r going to play next test which is known for good fast bowling

Posted by guptahitesh4u on (March 11, 2013, 7:47 GMT)

NOw thats really a breaking news!! specially pattinson's name in the list is surprising...waiting for more details!!

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:47 GMT)

Australia trying really hard to hand over white wash I guess

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 7:45 GMT)

What did they do, this is breaking news

Posted by Simoc on (March 11, 2013, 7:45 GMT)

Just what we needed. All probable starters ruled out.

Posted by Sushant_EC on (March 11, 2013, 7:44 GMT)

Salt to the wounds for the Aussie, apart from Jhonson the rest should have played third test

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