Australia in India 2012-13 March 12, 2013

Inexperience rife for Australia in Mohali

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There were 16 Australian players at training in Mohali on Tuesday but as few as 12 might be available for the Test starting on Thursday. James Pattinson, Mitchell Johnson and Usman Khawaja wore sheepish looks as the team gathered for its on-field meeting before the practice session began. Brad Haddin was there, newly arrived from Australia as cover for Matthew Wade, who walked without any obvious signs of pain from his sprained ankle but did not train.

Australia will not rush a decision on Wade's place in the side but he is running out of opportunities to prove his fitness after hurting his ankle while playing basketball on Saturday. The team has only one training session left, on Wednesday afternoon, and given all the crouching and quick footwork required of a wicketkeeper in Test cricket, Wade would need to go through a rigorous test before he was ruled fit to play.

Should Wade sit out, it will mean the inclusion of Haddin for his first Test since January last year and his presence would provide some valuable experience to the side. Haddin flew out of Australia on Monday to provide cover for Wade and could nearly have crossed paths at Singapore airport with Shane Watson, who departed Chandigarh the same day to be with his pregnant wife, Lee Furlong.

But Watson's departure had more worrying undertones, for it came hours after he, Pattinson, Johnson and Khawaja were told they would not play the Mohali Test for failing to complete a task set by the coach Mickey Arthur. His comments about considering his cricket future have raised questions over whether he will remain a Test player, but for now the only thing that is certain is that Australia will not have his experience to call on in Mohali.

That leaves Michael Clarke in charge of an extremely green outfit in which the second-most experienced Test cricketer will be either Haddin (43 Tests) or Peter Siddle (39). Should Wade be passed fit and Haddin left out, Australia would be in the remarkable position of Phillip Hughes (22 Tests) being their third most capped Test player, with Nathan Lyon (20) fourth if he is included.

With that in mind the selectors might consider Haddin as a batsman only, to add some much-needed experience to the XI. The make-up of the attack is the other question, for the sidelining of Pattinson and Johnson leaves Siddle and Mitchell Starc as the only frontline fast bowlers on the one pitch of this tour that might offer some pace and bounce. That means two of the three spinners in the squad - Lyon, Xavier Doherty and Glenn Maxwell - will have to play.

The other question is where Clarke will bat, after his announcement following the Hyderabad loss that he would move up the order from No. 5. On Monday, he once again confirmed that he would bat higher but said he would not decide on whether to come in at first drop or second drop until he had discussed it with the selector, Rod Marsh, who joined the squad on Tuesday, and Arthur.

"I don't know if I'm going to bat four or three but I'm not going to bat five," Clarke said. "If it's best for me to bat three, give me a go. Get me up there. I want to have a good chat to Rod and to Mickey, to think what our best team is and then we work out what's the best batting order."

That conversation has been complicated by the absence of Watson and Khawaja, which means Phillip Hughes will probably retain his place despite his struggles against spin in the first two Tests. On a surface where pace could play a role early, Australia would prefer for Hughes to come in as high up the order as possible, which could mean Clarke bats at No. 4.

Possible team: 1 David Warner, 2 Ed Cowan, 3 Phillip Hughes, 4 Michael Clarke (capt), 5 Steven Smith, 6 Brad Haddin/Matthew Wade (wk), 7 Moises Henriques, 8 Glenn Maxwell, 9 Mitchell Starc, 10 Peter Siddle, 11 Xavier Doherty/Nathan Lyon.

Brydon Coverdale is an assistant editor at ESPNcricinfo. He tweets here

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  • Chris_P on March 12, 2013, 20:58 GMT

    Haddin, for those who care looking at stats & form, is probably one of the most in-form batsman currently in the Sheffield Shield. He currently is averaging 52. @Capt Meanster, understand your point re: Sehwag & Singh, but they came late after injuries & without playing cricket, unlike Haddin. As far as his ability to play spin, the SCG is his home track & having watched him bat a number of occasions, this guy is more than a capable player of spin, in fact, he is probably right up there as one of our better players of it. Is he a long term solution, nope, probably not really that short term either, but this squad is lacking experience & someone who has a calming influence as well as being a solid support for Clarke. For this situation, a good selection.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on March 13, 2013, 11:08 GMT

    Inexperience, poor leadership, and a lack of skill to compete at this level are the afflictions of Australia right now. Dropping their only test-level seamer Pattison for not doing a Powerpoint presentation is symtematic of Clarke's desperation at his own ineffectual leadership and frustration at having a group of players at his disposal who just aren't up to the task. Australia, this doesn't bode well for the B2B Ashes.

  • Bonehead_maz on March 13, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    Why do test batsmen need experience before they can play well? Clarkes debut looked ok, Ponting's too, Greg Chappell and Neil Harvey went ok on debut, even someone like Doúg Walters - an obvious non toe the team line type.

    When did people stop being able to bat BEFORE they got a test match ?

    I suppose Pattinson has shown his inexperience this tour. Probably thought they mean that rubbish for those that aren't busting their guts ?

  • ygkd on March 13, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    Although Haddin's batting record in the sub-continent is hardly great, we should perhaps also point out that Wade has thus far exactly the same average there without ever facing the likes of Anil Kumble and Zaheer Khan.

  • CricketMaan on March 13, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    I have a wierd feeling that Aus is going to WIN!!!!

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    @Chris_P... Better go back over the records - Gilchrist was a specialist batsman for NSW...

  • ygkd on March 13, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    After 11 Tests, Haddin had a higher average, a higher strike rate and a much higher score than Wade has at the same juncture. At this point, saying that Wade's career is already better than Haddin's is decidedly premature. Wade has only played one quarter of the Tests Haddin has. Wade has however, one more century and two more half-centuries for the same number of Tests, which perhaps indicates correspondingly more low scores. The problem lies with the second dig. Wade averages 16 and 12 in the third and fourth innings. By comparison Haddin's full-career averages there are 28 and 41 and that's after his much publicised batting woes. Perhaps we can say that Haddin figures show him to likely be a more consistent player of spin. Haddin also had more keeping dismissals than Wade has after 11 Tests.

  • Trotski83 on March 13, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Get Alex Doolan over there immediately. An inform no 3 batsman would be handy. Maybe even add Chris Rogers for experience (definitely needs to be on ashes tour). I don't understand the Australian selectors obsession with 'looking to the future' Look to the PRESENT, you might actually do alright.

  • Beertjie on March 13, 2013, 9:48 GMT

    @balajik1968 (March 13, 2013, 2:18 GMT) You ask why Haddin wasn't in the original squad. Most respondents on this site took the view that "the original selection was crazy in the first place". As for why Oz didn't want to use Haddin's experience, the answer can only be surmised. My guess is they wanted to back youth and didn't want to use Wade's failings behind the stumps as a justification for dropping him and picking Haddin! And they have the hypocrisy to speak about an inexperienced squad! Hussey and Bailey were rightly not considered because their batting form in Shield cricket this season was poor. But Doherty (as bowler) had comparably poor figures and he was selected ahead of O'Keefe. Maxwell too was picked on short form, so I must conclude that these are players Pup himself wanted (since he is a member of the NSP). For my money, Arthur is taking the flak for him. But the whole management culture seems problematic to outsiders, which is not to say the 4 should not be punished.

  • sachin_vvsfan on March 13, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    I fear haddin (as batsman) most among wade, paine. I remember Tim pain scored some 90 odd runs last time but he had his share of luck and often edgy.

  • Chris_P on March 12, 2013, 20:58 GMT

    Haddin, for those who care looking at stats & form, is probably one of the most in-form batsman currently in the Sheffield Shield. He currently is averaging 52. @Capt Meanster, understand your point re: Sehwag & Singh, but they came late after injuries & without playing cricket, unlike Haddin. As far as his ability to play spin, the SCG is his home track & having watched him bat a number of occasions, this guy is more than a capable player of spin, in fact, he is probably right up there as one of our better players of it. Is he a long term solution, nope, probably not really that short term either, but this squad is lacking experience & someone who has a calming influence as well as being a solid support for Clarke. For this situation, a good selection.

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on March 13, 2013, 11:08 GMT

    Inexperience, poor leadership, and a lack of skill to compete at this level are the afflictions of Australia right now. Dropping their only test-level seamer Pattison for not doing a Powerpoint presentation is symtematic of Clarke's desperation at his own ineffectual leadership and frustration at having a group of players at his disposal who just aren't up to the task. Australia, this doesn't bode well for the B2B Ashes.

  • Bonehead_maz on March 13, 2013, 10:52 GMT

    Why do test batsmen need experience before they can play well? Clarkes debut looked ok, Ponting's too, Greg Chappell and Neil Harvey went ok on debut, even someone like Doúg Walters - an obvious non toe the team line type.

    When did people stop being able to bat BEFORE they got a test match ?

    I suppose Pattinson has shown his inexperience this tour. Probably thought they mean that rubbish for those that aren't busting their guts ?

  • ygkd on March 13, 2013, 10:47 GMT

    Although Haddin's batting record in the sub-continent is hardly great, we should perhaps also point out that Wade has thus far exactly the same average there without ever facing the likes of Anil Kumble and Zaheer Khan.

  • CricketMaan on March 13, 2013, 10:45 GMT

    I have a wierd feeling that Aus is going to WIN!!!!

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2013, 10:41 GMT

    @Chris_P... Better go back over the records - Gilchrist was a specialist batsman for NSW...

  • ygkd on March 13, 2013, 10:36 GMT

    After 11 Tests, Haddin had a higher average, a higher strike rate and a much higher score than Wade has at the same juncture. At this point, saying that Wade's career is already better than Haddin's is decidedly premature. Wade has only played one quarter of the Tests Haddin has. Wade has however, one more century and two more half-centuries for the same number of Tests, which perhaps indicates correspondingly more low scores. The problem lies with the second dig. Wade averages 16 and 12 in the third and fourth innings. By comparison Haddin's full-career averages there are 28 and 41 and that's after his much publicised batting woes. Perhaps we can say that Haddin figures show him to likely be a more consistent player of spin. Haddin also had more keeping dismissals than Wade has after 11 Tests.

  • Trotski83 on March 13, 2013, 10:01 GMT

    Get Alex Doolan over there immediately. An inform no 3 batsman would be handy. Maybe even add Chris Rogers for experience (definitely needs to be on ashes tour). I don't understand the Australian selectors obsession with 'looking to the future' Look to the PRESENT, you might actually do alright.

  • Beertjie on March 13, 2013, 9:48 GMT

    @balajik1968 (March 13, 2013, 2:18 GMT) You ask why Haddin wasn't in the original squad. Most respondents on this site took the view that "the original selection was crazy in the first place". As for why Oz didn't want to use Haddin's experience, the answer can only be surmised. My guess is they wanted to back youth and didn't want to use Wade's failings behind the stumps as a justification for dropping him and picking Haddin! And they have the hypocrisy to speak about an inexperienced squad! Hussey and Bailey were rightly not considered because their batting form in Shield cricket this season was poor. But Doherty (as bowler) had comparably poor figures and he was selected ahead of O'Keefe. Maxwell too was picked on short form, so I must conclude that these are players Pup himself wanted (since he is a member of the NSP). For my money, Arthur is taking the flak for him. But the whole management culture seems problematic to outsiders, which is not to say the 4 should not be punished.

  • sachin_vvsfan on March 13, 2013, 9:34 GMT

    I fear haddin (as batsman) most among wade, paine. I remember Tim pain scored some 90 odd runs last time but he had his share of luck and often edgy.

  • on March 13, 2013, 9:18 GMT

    drop hughes andplay the rest. my line up will be cowan warner,maxwell,clarke,Haddin,Wade,Henriques, smith,Siddle, Starc,Lyon.if Wade sits out then it will Doherty who should come in. this could lend more options for clarke and variety in bowling. Hughes is a good for nothing and should not be persisited with.

  • Clarko_92 on March 13, 2013, 8:47 GMT

    sick of hearing people bag wade whats he ever done wrong? could play as just a batsman in the test team

  • yorkslanka on March 13, 2013, 8:25 GMT

    Good to see Haddin back in as Wade is the weak link in the batting order. Personally I would play Smith and Doherty in the starting eleven. I hasten to add I am a SL so looking at this as a neutral...

  • HansonKoch on March 13, 2013, 8:22 GMT

    What about Fawad Ahmed: how hard would it be for Johnny Howard to get this bloke's passport expedited?

    http://www.espncricinfo.com/australia/content/story/605811.html

  • partha19 on March 13, 2013, 7:24 GMT

    Feel bad for this Aussie team. Lack of experience & now the axing of 4 major players. Well, I still feel they need somebody like David Hussey who is a very capable Batsman against spin & more than useful bowler , He also has adequate experience to inspire the team. Clarke should come in No 3, Hughes 4 & David Hussey 5, Henerique 6,Haddin 7, Maxwell 8, Starc ,siddle & Lyon to follow. Mohali should be the turining point for this team as it would favour the pace & bounce.

  • Chris_P on March 13, 2013, 7:21 GMT

    @FREEMONEY. Doherty doesn't do anything better than SOK based on current form, career form & my observations of watching them at the SCG, Doolan should have have been picked based on form. I cannot answer why they were not & Doherty, Watson & Maxwell were. Re: England, we have little to no hope over there, our chances will be better down here.

  • Chris_P on March 13, 2013, 7:18 GMT

    @FREEMONEY. I'm sorry, I must have gone to the SCG and watched another game. And here i was thinking that the matches I saw the pitch was actually spinning & SOK was taking wickets. There are figures & there are stats. All I commented was that THIS season, Haddin is averaging 52 & looked good against spinners. You are talking about past performances, which in the present context, means squat.

  • Big-Dog on March 13, 2013, 7:09 GMT

    Haddin is over the hill. Sending him to India is just another example of the incompetent administration that now runs Australian cricket. Paine was the obvious replacement. Not only is he a better keeper than Haddin, but he has had more recent success in India than Haddin. The biggest hurdle Australia has to overcome, however, is to find a way to get rid of Mickey Arthur.

  • satishchandar on March 13, 2013, 7:08 GMT

    Haddin merits the place in the 11. You can't have the same 11 which got pasting for 2 successive time. After all, they can't act like India down under - put in the same 11 which will again lose formidably. They guys who MUST go is Hughes. Bring in Smith even at 3 if needed. Warner, Cowan, no.39might have opted for Khawaja but now, Smith), Clarke, Haddin, Henriques, Wade, Siddle, Starc, Lyon and either Maxwell or Doherty.. I think they would opt for Maxwell.. Looks very thin team on paper.. What this lineup might do is, to take away the offie against leftie theory by India.. If they still get in Bhajji in the team ahead of Ojha, the number of right handers can negate that threat.. For Dhoni who bravely opted for Bhajji ahead of his best spinner last series simply for no. of lefties, i strongly believe Ojha will get the game now. One offie enough for 3 out of touch lefties.

  • righthandbat on March 13, 2013, 6:18 GMT

    Australia should have: * Haddin for the remainder of the Indian test series, battng at 6. * Steve O'Keefe to get on a plane and bowl in tandem with Lyon. * Getting Clarke to bat at 3. * Keeping Warner and Cowan as the opening combination for now. * Giving Doolan a baggy green (after getting him on a plane) and slotting him in at number 4. * Dropping Hughes down to 5. * Siddle and Starc to bowl as the two quicks for the remaining two matches.

  • binu.emiliya on March 13, 2013, 6:17 GMT

    During inda's disastrous Aus tour last year Aus media trying to fabricate a rift between Dhoni and Sewag, now the real thing happend here,If you are winning everything will be allright , else there will be lot of issues...!

  • LALITHKURUWITA on March 13, 2013, 6:16 GMT

    They should have sent a couple of spinners along with haddin.

  • zenboomerang on March 13, 2013, 6:10 GMT

    Wades recovery seems remarkable considering the original diagnosis from Kountouris, but he's a tough lad & doesn't call in sick for minor things like fractured cheek bones, etc...

    With the squad thats left most positions are filled "if" Wade is fit... The exceptions being the no.5 batting spot (Smith v Haddin) - & 1 bowling spot (Lyon v Maxwell)... Both Smith & Haddin play at the SCG so both slightly more comfortable with spin - so it may fall back to experience plus any lingering doubts on Wade... Though I like Maxwell in OD cricket I still feel he is 1-2 years away from Test standards - like to be proven wrong, but I'd like Lyon for his level headness when under pressure...

  • FREEMONEY on March 13, 2013, 6:06 GMT

    @Chris_P Haddin averages in Sri Lanka 18.00 , vs Srilanka 18.00 , in India 27.16 vs India 27.66 , vs Pakistan 14. He struggles against teams with spin! the SCG does not spin every match most of the damage is done by quicks these days .

    If Australia was fair dinkum about moving forward and playing the best Xl they would have sent over their best batsmen in the first place not a molly cock side that they did.

    How can any of the selectors justify the non - existance of Doolan on this tour? There is your batsmen in form (for the last 2 seasons). Dont even get me started on Okeefe missing out ahead of Doherty.

    Tell me 1 thing that Doherty does better then Okeefe, One thing!?

    Out only hope come the ashes in the UK is the fact Swan is injured and Broad is on the cusp of breaking down.

  • Chris_P on March 13, 2013, 5:35 GMT

    @balajik1968. Good question. I can only surmise that NSL wanted to go with Wade for the future & so Haddin's preference was for a back-up. Why wasn't he considered as a batsman? Any number of reasons, perhaps they thought with Watson & MJ they had enough experienced players & continued with their youth policy. Also Haddin's recent efforts have come since the initial selection, although he was in pretty good form beforehand. Perhaps they don't believe keepers should be picked as specialist batsmen? Gilchrist wasn't selected earlier as a batsman & he was easily amongst the best 6 about. Haddin is now the only other player with more than 25 tests experience so this could also be the reason. All I was stating that Haddin's selection isn't the straw clutching effort many paint it out to be. Good question to ask though.

  • Someguy on March 13, 2013, 5:30 GMT

    @balajik1968 - Chris is right, Haddin is in good form and is one of the better players of spin in Australia. I think the only reason he was left out of the original squad was because the selectors were "looking to the future". His absence is far from the most questionable selection choice. Bringing Doherty and Smith for example. Not bring O'Keefe, for another.

  • on March 13, 2013, 5:22 GMT

    Oh dear, what turmoil! Forget the off-field dramas and let's focus on what is right in front of us now. Don't be tricked into selling Brad Haddin short. With what we've seen on tour so far, he could make the Test side on his batting alone. The fact that Watson and Khawaja won't be considered doesn't suddenly make the miserable form of Phil Hughes any better! Cowan, Warner, Clarke, Smith, Haddin, Wade, Henriques, Starc, Siddle, Lyon, Doherty doesn't look all that bad a line-up. If Wade is fit to keep, Haddin plays as a specialist batsman. If not, he fields in slips and Haddin keeps. I've seen worse sides take the field for Australia.

  • Bishop on March 13, 2013, 4:48 GMT

    If both Haddin and Wade both play, Haddin should keep wicket. Not only is he the much better gloveman (his dropping from the test side had more to do with lack of runs than keeping ability), but if Wade is recovering from an ankle injury, keeping will be the last thing he needs. Steve Smith is not a test batsman, and Lyon should absolutely play.

  • on March 13, 2013, 3:51 GMT

    Haddin is always a much better batsman than Wade more so in Indian conditions.

  • balajik1968 on March 13, 2013, 2:18 GMT

    Chris_P if Haddin is one of the better players of spin and is having as fine a domestic season as you say he has, why was'nt he in the original squad? Let me say this; I am not questioning your stats, I don't follow Aussie domestic cricket. This basically means the original selection was crazy in the first place, Oz could surely have used Haddin's experience. I mean there was no Hussey, Watson was feeling his way back after injuries, an experienced player would have contributed a lot to this Aussie team. Right now this team is looking lost, and it will be really funny if there is some sort of turnaround helped along by Haddin. Won't it make the team management look a little daft for not selecting him in the original squad?

  • on March 13, 2013, 1:37 GMT

    I also like Haddin in the team. He brings loads of experience, and provides an old hand that can support Clarke. I'd prefer him as our keeper instead of Wade to be honest, he's matured over the past year since he was dropped and needs to go to England.

  • popcorn on March 13, 2013, 1:35 GMT

    I hope Rod Marsh, Mickey Arthur and Michael Clarke pick Brad Haddin to play - whether as a batsman or a wicket keeper, he MUST Play. He is the MOST Experienced of the Team, next to Clarke, and Clarke is going to need his stability and advice.My Team would be: Cowan, Warner,Hughes,Clarke,Haddin, Wade,Henriques,Siddle,Starc,Lyon,Doherty.

  • Lankan_Pride1981 on March 13, 2013, 1:31 GMT

    Haddin must play i guess how abo0ut brad hodge

  • redneck on March 13, 2013, 1:25 GMT

    i dont agree that its only if wades injured that haddin will play. id say he would be selected regardless, hell he'd almost be vice captain already given the lack of other options. dont see smith getting a gig unless they swap one useless allrounder in maxwell for the other in smith!!! the rest selects itself as we have no one else in india. @siddhartha87 i was thinking the samething until the captain and coach kicked 4 players out of the team over stupid homework!!! AB was tough as nails, would love clarke to pick up that trait!!! espechally the not talking to your opponents ala borders 89 ashes team. the ipl has made us too chummy with the indian team. great that they get along but id rather they keep the friendships strictly off the field!!!

  • on March 12, 2013, 23:49 GMT

    Very Disappointed that Usman Khawaja is not going to play this test match. I think Australians needs a calm no. 3 batsman but Hughes biggest weakness is no temperament against spinners. And i don't see Maxwell as front line Spinner.

    1 David Warner, 2 Ed Cowan, 3 Michael Clarke (capt), 4 Steven Smith, 5 Glen Maxwell 6 Brad Haddin (wk), 7 Moises Henriques, 8 Mitchell Starc, 9 Peter Siddle, 10 Xavier Doherty, 11 Nathan Lyon.

    I don't think so Maxwell can contribute with the bat at number 8 so its better of dropping Philip H and playing Maxwell at no 5 So they will have 2 front line spinners and 1 part time spinner Maxwell and same as 2 front line fast bowlers and 1 economical fast bowler Henriques.

  • Ashwin1989 on March 12, 2013, 22:23 GMT

    My XI for Australia would be (if Wade is not fit): 1. Ed Cowan 2. Philip Hughes 3. David Warner 4. Michael Clarke (capt) 5. Steven Smith 6.Brad Haddin (wk) 7. Moises Henriques 8. Mitchell Starc 9. Peter Siddle 10. Nathan Lyon 11. Xavier Doherty

    My XI for Australia (if Wade is fit) 1. Ed Cowan 2. David Warner 3. Michael Clarke (capt) 4. Steven Smith 5. Brad Haddin (wk) 6. Matthew Wade 7. Moises Henriques 8. Mitchell Starc 9. Peter Siddle 10. Nathan Lyon 11. Xavier Doherty

  • boehj on March 12, 2013, 22:12 GMT

    Wow, Lyon is one of the senior players now.

  • Hyderabadi_Nawab on March 12, 2013, 21:21 GMT

    I really do not understand how Bailey is never even in the reckoning as a Test selection. He seems the most competent batsman against any sort of bowling (save Michael Clarke of course) in Australia. Ridiculous selecting Phil Hughes and Usman Khwaja ahead of Bailey, just looking at the way Hughes plays, the way he cuts he just throws the bat at the ball, no footwork nothing...Bailey at least seems sure-footed, he handled Herath particularly well in the ODI series. He also can be an able deputy to Clarke what with him being the T20 captain. If anything Bailey should be out of the T20 squad and selected only for ODIs and Tests. The less said about Khawaja the better. Steve Smith's selection as a frontline bat is a JOKE, so is Maxwell's as an off spinning all rounder. I hope Australia gets drubbed 4-0, go India....

  • Green_and_Gold on March 12, 2013, 20:45 GMT

    Why not open with hughes as he plays the quicks better anyway. Open him with cowan and have warner at 3 and clarke at 4.

  • on March 12, 2013, 20:04 GMT

    As soon as Watto had left Australian selectors should have immediately flown in a middle order batsman ( bailey for example ) to add strength to the squad.

    Also having Haddin as covers makes no sennse!!! Where in Tim Paine????

  • Thefakebook on March 12, 2013, 19:41 GMT

    Tell you what that possible 11 looks really really good if you kick G.Maxwell out and play Lyon instead.Maxwell will never win the game with ball Lyon can (yes he can to all his haters)on seaming pitches.Xavier should have another go,he was not bad in last game and can take wickets if the fast men build enough pressure!

  • on March 12, 2013, 18:34 GMT

    Having Haddin as a specialist batsman in India is like playing Harbhajan Singh as a specialist batsman in South Africa. Haddin is pathetic against spin, I mean quality spin, not Shield cricket spinners like Lyon. His temperament is among the worst for a test batsman, and his only way to bat is to "hit out", which fails more often than not. His wicketkeeping earned him a loving nickname of "Bad Hands". If Haddin is their replacement, it looks like the way back rather than a way forward. Gilchrist would be a better bet even with his age and slower reflexes. Really bare cupboard except for fast bowlers, arent we?

  • Kapil_Choudhary on March 12, 2013, 18:20 GMT

    Even if Wade is fit, I don't think picking Hughes over Haddin would be the right decision considering the nightmare Hughes has had. I mean 39 balls, 4 outs, 0 runs against spinners are just unheard of statistics. I say play Wade as a pure batsman and let Haddin keep. Staying off keeping would ease pressure on Wade's ankle and he has definitely been much better than Hughes so far.

  • on March 12, 2013, 17:59 GMT

    May be Australian Cricket board should have called all the 16 players back home.

  • ihaq1 on March 12, 2013, 17:54 GMT

    i think clarke should decide that he has made his point and end teh suspension so as to create a realistic team...since teh fast bowlers maynot fireup even though starc has ability the team management should look to play two spinners and two pacemen and maxwell and moises as alrounders so that they can have three spinners and three pacemen for all kinds of situations...both maxwell and moises are capable batsmen...that leaves space for four top order batsmen and a wicketkeeper...that would make seven batsmen and the management should make sure that maxwell and moises know that they will have to bat as batsmen

  • Cpt.Meanster on March 12, 2013, 17:52 GMT

    @ siddhartha87 : Is it so Mr. Soothsayer ? Well could you kindly predict my future please.. I am thinking of a change in careers. Also, how about predicting India's future as the next no.1 team in test cricket hmm ?

  • Cpt.Meanster on March 12, 2013, 17:49 GMT

    I knew the Aussies were in turmoil following the Hyderabad drubbing. But, I didn't know they were fools of the highest fallacy. So they bring in Brad Haddin, who would have been on vacation in some paradise, all the way to India and expect him to bat, wicket-keep flawlessly. WOW ! Expect him to FAIL big time guys. It's never easy to arrive in a new country and start performing in a test match from day 1. We all saw what happened with Virender Sehwag and RP Singh back in England in 2011. Both were brought in specially to fill in injury problems and both failed miserably. Haddin may have toured India before but it's never easy to come in straight from a break and play a tough test series. Gosh, I cannot believe these Aussies.

  • on March 12, 2013, 17:39 GMT

    Australia cricket is going too dramatic just because of loss of two tests, apart from England in India (that to when Indian team is in its worst state of past 10 yrs) no other team has been able to capitalize India in India ,What all say was a dream team of Aus few years back was also humiliated by Ganguly boyz when they had visited India.....This is just im-mature politics where it should not be ,bring in the experienced and India will again fall like crumbling sand !!!

  • on March 12, 2013, 17:27 GMT

    If Wade's ankle is looking iffy, I wouldn't be surprised to see him picked as a specialist batsman, with Haddin keeping. And I really can't see them persevering with Hughes. In which case:

    Warner, Cowan, Clarke, Wade, Smith, Henriques, Haddin (wk), Maxwell, Siddle, Starc, Lyon

    ...although possibly with Doherty in for Maxwell, if they decide that the bowling is an even bigger problem than the batting.

  • on March 12, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    So barring clarke....this batting line-up is worse than bangladesh n new zealand i shud say. No one averages over 35 exept clarke n warner

  • Ashwin1989 on March 12, 2013, 17:20 GMT

    The fact that the 4 players recently dropped from the Australian squad are wearing sheepish rather than angry looks indicates that they regret what they did and have accepted their punishment, meaning what Clarke,Mickey Arthur and Co. did was not wrong

  • anuajm on March 12, 2013, 17:09 GMT

    And the anticlimax is that Australia will comprehensively defeat India in the third test, all will be forgotten including Watson and Khwaja and Arthur and Clarke will be hailed for their efforts in bringing the team out of the ruins!!

  • InsideHedge on March 12, 2013, 16:44 GMT

    In a strange way, all the pressure is now on India as they'll be expected to win easily. Cricket is a funny old game, some of these Oz replacements may have a very good game. Haddin looks good when he bats aggressively, the Indian bowlers historically wane when facing a batsman who's going hammer and tongs.

  • on March 12, 2013, 16:22 GMT

    Agar is too good a talent to waste with this mob.He took five wickets in the last shield game and once again took part in a winning last wicket partnership. He is more mature at 19 than most of our test cricketers.

  • on March 12, 2013, 16:17 GMT

    I do not as such agree to with Clarke/Arthur decision, but we never know this might end well for the aussies, the Aussie will have it back against walls, the expectations willl be low from them and I believe team spirit good (all the people who dont do well for the team according to Arthur and Clarke are out of the team) and India generally has a habit of taking foot of pedal when they lead in the series, wat say we might get a good match in Mohali, personally i would love to see aussie fightback

  • on March 12, 2013, 16:08 GMT

    Steven Smith at five!!!!!!!!! Australia is doomed for sure................

  • ROXSPORT on March 12, 2013, 15:58 GMT

    I would rather drop Hughes than shatter his confidence fully, which another failure will do. Push Pup up to 3, Haddin at 4, Henriques at 5, Wade/Maxwell at 6, Steven Smith, Mitch Starc, Siddle, Doherty & Lyon to follow. If Wade is not able to make it, then Haddin keeps & Maxi plays instead.

  • siddhartha87 on March 12, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    this australian team is similar to that Boreders team in mid eighties. This means good times are coming for the aussies.

  • Barnesy4444 on March 12, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    I think administrators need to do some homework too. When a young team is playing a big test series in totally foreign conditions, give players more than one 3 day tour match before the first test. Please!

  • ram4crictheory on March 12, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    Okay, now its high time to see ahead of the decision taken by the Arthur/Clarke two days ago.

    Looking at the team for third test in Mohali, it is not looking as bad as many are assuming except for one player Pattinson.

    I have read plenty of comments asking to drop Watson as his starts and lack of big scores are not helping team in anyway compounded by the fact that he is not even bowling.

    So, the available team is also a capable one and who knows Starc and Siddle may raise their game in the absence of Pattinson just to grab the limelite.

    I am really hoping this to happen, so that I can watch a good test match for five days.

    I am also a bit worried for the fact that if this happens, we may end up seeing such ridiculous decisions in the world cricket more frequently, which is not good for cricket.

    Let us wait and see what follows next. Hoping for the best

  • Ozcricketwriter on March 12, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    At least there won't be many disappointed people at being dumped. Everyone gets to play!

  • Edwards_Anderson on March 12, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    We are really going to miss Pattinson who is our best bowler and KHawaja who would have come in to top order for this match to add some grit that's been missing. Its at least good to know both these guys will be avaialble for the last test and we will need them. Alot of responsibilty will lie with Starc and Siddle if we are to get 20 wickets and its time for Lyon to show what he can do.

  • evebathowsai on March 12, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Suspending 4 players?!? Buchman was doing these sorts of processes when he was around but look at the team back then, hayden, langer, pointing, lehmann, katich, warne, macgill, kasperwich, gilliespie, mcgarth, lee.... list goes on and on!!! You cannot do this to an Australian team in transition and yes they are in transition. Its good with what they have achieved, 3rd place in test cricket but by no means are they even as tough or as skilled as South Africa and England (afraid to say it). Whats needed is match practice, go back to the basics (practice/live matches/core skills training). Australia 4-5 years ago were legendary which means to unveil the extra firepower within them you might have to try different methods.

    My team for the next test would be. (forget about suspension punish them with extra training!) Warner, Cowan, Hughes (can't drop him, he needs experience!), Clarke, Haddin, Khwaji, Henriques, SOK (would be selected in my books), Johnson, Pattinson, Lyon. Sids as 12th man

  • on March 12, 2013, 13:34 GMT

    Aus in a complete mess - Australia A top 7 batting looks better than this!

    My preferred lineup from whats available: Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Haddin, Wade, Henriques, Starc, Siddle, Lyon, Doherty -Left and Right arm spin, Left and Right arm pace, Medium pace and a little experience in the middle order

    Ponting and Hussey please come back!!!

  • Manu_reddy on March 12, 2013, 13:14 GMT

    During 1st test against sl starc was reverse swinging d ball at good speed n some of his balls were going towards batsmen in banana shape but he failed to do so in 1st test vs india so can some1 explain me how to do reverse swing n y its not possible to reverse d ball on all surfaces...

  • din7 on March 12, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    what to say aus themselves have ruined their chances of winnin atleast 1 test which was possible in mohali given the conditions here did suit fast bowlers to some extent..and they have dropped johnson and pattinson who could have been dangerous on this track...nobody could help whenthey themselves dont want to win.it would certainlt be 4-0....so mickey and clarke will be responsible for mohali loss..come delhi its quite a slow track and fasters would have no impact whoever they may be!

  • on March 12, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    Bad team. From the batsmen's 1 to 8 at least 5 of them will need to makes 50 + to even have a chance with 2 of them making a big score. It doesn't look like any1 will make a hundred besides Clarke and Maybe Warner. They might as well put Ashton Agar the spinner for the 3rd test just to bring a surprise attack and get lucky.

  • on March 12, 2013, 12:56 GMT

    Bad team. From the batsmen's 1 to 8 at least 5 of them will need to makes 50 + to even have a chance with 2 of them making a big score. It doesn't look like any1 will make a hundred besides Clarke and Maybe Warner. They might as well put Ashton Agar the spinner for the 3rd test just to bring a surprise attack and get lucky.

  • din7 on March 12, 2013, 13:13 GMT

    what to say aus themselves have ruined their chances of winnin atleast 1 test which was possible in mohali given the conditions here did suit fast bowlers to some extent..and they have dropped johnson and pattinson who could have been dangerous on this track...nobody could help whenthey themselves dont want to win.it would certainlt be 4-0....so mickey and clarke will be responsible for mohali loss..come delhi its quite a slow track and fasters would have no impact whoever they may be!

  • Manu_reddy on March 12, 2013, 13:14 GMT

    During 1st test against sl starc was reverse swinging d ball at good speed n some of his balls were going towards batsmen in banana shape but he failed to do so in 1st test vs india so can some1 explain me how to do reverse swing n y its not possible to reverse d ball on all surfaces...

  • on March 12, 2013, 13:34 GMT

    Aus in a complete mess - Australia A top 7 batting looks better than this!

    My preferred lineup from whats available: Warner, Cowan, Hughes, Clarke, Haddin, Wade, Henriques, Starc, Siddle, Lyon, Doherty -Left and Right arm spin, Left and Right arm pace, Medium pace and a little experience in the middle order

    Ponting and Hussey please come back!!!

  • evebathowsai on March 12, 2013, 13:35 GMT

    Suspending 4 players?!? Buchman was doing these sorts of processes when he was around but look at the team back then, hayden, langer, pointing, lehmann, katich, warne, macgill, kasperwich, gilliespie, mcgarth, lee.... list goes on and on!!! You cannot do this to an Australian team in transition and yes they are in transition. Its good with what they have achieved, 3rd place in test cricket but by no means are they even as tough or as skilled as South Africa and England (afraid to say it). Whats needed is match practice, go back to the basics (practice/live matches/core skills training). Australia 4-5 years ago were legendary which means to unveil the extra firepower within them you might have to try different methods.

    My team for the next test would be. (forget about suspension punish them with extra training!) Warner, Cowan, Hughes (can't drop him, he needs experience!), Clarke, Haddin, Khwaji, Henriques, SOK (would be selected in my books), Johnson, Pattinson, Lyon. Sids as 12th man

  • Edwards_Anderson on March 12, 2013, 13:55 GMT

    We are really going to miss Pattinson who is our best bowler and KHawaja who would have come in to top order for this match to add some grit that's been missing. Its at least good to know both these guys will be avaialble for the last test and we will need them. Alot of responsibilty will lie with Starc and Siddle if we are to get 20 wickets and its time for Lyon to show what he can do.

  • Ozcricketwriter on March 12, 2013, 14:10 GMT

    At least there won't be many disappointed people at being dumped. Everyone gets to play!

  • ram4crictheory on March 12, 2013, 14:15 GMT

    Okay, now its high time to see ahead of the decision taken by the Arthur/Clarke two days ago.

    Looking at the team for third test in Mohali, it is not looking as bad as many are assuming except for one player Pattinson.

    I have read plenty of comments asking to drop Watson as his starts and lack of big scores are not helping team in anyway compounded by the fact that he is not even bowling.

    So, the available team is also a capable one and who knows Starc and Siddle may raise their game in the absence of Pattinson just to grab the limelite.

    I am really hoping this to happen, so that I can watch a good test match for five days.

    I am also a bit worried for the fact that if this happens, we may end up seeing such ridiculous decisions in the world cricket more frequently, which is not good for cricket.

    Let us wait and see what follows next. Hoping for the best

  • Barnesy4444 on March 12, 2013, 14:19 GMT

    I think administrators need to do some homework too. When a young team is playing a big test series in totally foreign conditions, give players more than one 3 day tour match before the first test. Please!

  • siddhartha87 on March 12, 2013, 14:40 GMT

    this australian team is similar to that Boreders team in mid eighties. This means good times are coming for the aussies.