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Chappell: Australia lack confidence in second spinner

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell analyses Australia's eight-wicket loss to India in the first Test in Chennai and also paves a way ahead for both teams (00:00)

Interviewer: Daniel Bretting

February 28, 2013

Posted by gregjones on (March 1, 2013, 16:29 GMT)

The problem is not about not having 'World class' spinners.One does not need to be a Shane Warne to pick wickets. Panesar was not known to be world class but he did the job required of him of winning the series in India. What more does one need from a bowler.Australia have very many such fine players who are neglected for average ones.Lyon has been given too many matches for him to become a regular in the team.He might be the only spinner in the world today who struggles to pick wickets during the fourth and fifth days of a test match which he has been achieving quite regularly in the last 6 to 7 test matches. Lyon was the main reason why Australia could not win the first 2 test matches against South Africa being the lone spinner, where he could not take wickets in the final days of both tests. If such a spinner cannot be replaced then I suppose that there might not be another spinner playing in the Australian domestic circuit.

Posted by gregjones on (March 1, 2013, 16:23 GMT)

@ Matty82A First thing is, I would never had picked Lyon in the first place to endure his average bowling which, as Geoff Boycott says, would have been played with ease by his Grand mother.That is why I said that tactics count more than machoism.Almost everybody should have known by now that Indian batters are not comfortable at all against left arm spin.The perception that Indians play spin comfortably is nonsense.Just have a look at the last series of England & India.Swann was negotiated easily in the 1st test and the Poms lost badly.Next test Panesar takes 10 wickets and England win easily and was instrumental for England winning the series.Only after Panesar's entry did Swann started bowling with confidence.If you do not have fine spinners then select the next one.No use continuing with Lyon who has no variation and hardly spins the ball.Keefe or even Doherty would have been handful on that Chennai pitch.

Posted by VivGilchrist on (March 1, 2013, 7:48 GMT)

The problem is Australia's best spinner was not selected. If he was, they would have faith in playing 2 spinners. Doherty isn't even Tasmanias best spinner, that why there's no confidence. OKeefe should be there. His bowling would be perfect for India.

Posted by Klgn on (March 1, 2013, 4:42 GMT)

Whether India goes to Australia or Australia comes to India, situation is similar for both. It's all about temperament of the team. Indian have feeling bouncy tracks, and swing story at aussie wicket, difficult conditions for Indians. Weather is also cold and breezy in auss. Other hand, Aus team feeling spin and humid, hot environment. Are you really cricketers?? Look the Army of any country going for battle in any field, how they are mentally strong with the conditions. Sometimes, thinking that if I could be the cricketer i could make a difference rather than the current ones!! You should just go and performed no matter what is the situation. Be a sportsMAN!

Posted by   on (March 1, 2013, 2:51 GMT)

Bhujo, you do realise they have a squad over in India, half the players you name arnt in the squad so how do you expect them to get selected. Smith hardly bowls so how can you pick him as your main allrounder. How you could consider hilfenhaus and mckay better bowlers then whats over there is beyond me, they could play the next 3 tests and they would be lucky to get a wicket between them.

Posted by Matty82A on (February 28, 2013, 22:53 GMT)

@gregjones, it's all well and good for you to criticise Clarke in regards to his handling of Lyon.Would you hazard to offer any suggestions as to how you would have handled the situation or who you would have selected?

The problem for Australia is that we do not have any world class spinners. In my opinion the main oversight made by the selectors was not taking Steve O'Keefe on the tour, but in saying that I am by no means suggesting that O'Keefe is a world class option.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2013, 22:08 GMT)

That Australia didnt want a 2nd spinner would definetely hurt the confidence Xavier Doherty. Remember Michael Beer was selected but he got injured, hes a fairly decent spinner.

Posted by Klgn on (February 28, 2013, 21:51 GMT)

Agree with the legend Ian Chappel,that Aussies has good chance to bounce back and win from second test. Just a few changes I am looking for, Include one more spinner, doherty or somebody. Include, George Bailey batman, Clint Mckay, Michelll Johnson,Ben Hilfenhaus,and Smith-Allrouder!! Aus is good for pace attack but still require some mix of spin, pace and medium pace, part time spinners!! Batsman should work on straight bat practice like Alasteir cook. Need to get advice from the players who already played in India whether it is IPL or other format. These players are the key in India. Australia should seek advice from great Shane Warne as he can give best advice as he knew/read the condition than any body else!!!

Posted by Hardy1 on (February 28, 2013, 19:14 GMT)

I think Gambhir will come in for Sehwag but I'd be surprised to see any other changes. I really think Ojha should come back for Harbhajan though, why he was even dropped is beyond me. Jadeja & Vijay both need to be given the entire series before judgement can be passed (even though I'm hesitant about both players to be honest) but otherwise the team is well settled.

Australia really need to bring in another spinner along with Lyon who's probably low on confidence & can't be expected to take the burden of all of the overs of spin that should be bowled in somewhere like Hyderabad. There were certainly positives, including Henriques, Clarke & Pattinson obviously but most of the Australian batsmen got starts at least so that bodes well for them.

Posted by gregjones on (February 28, 2013, 18:25 GMT)

Clarke's bravado of revealing the Aussie side 2 days before the test has fallen flat on his face. It is one thing being brave and another thing being clever in selecting your team.You see a dustbowl at Chennai and you go gloating that Aussies will not copy the English by selecting 2 spinners.If you are not going to pick 2 or 3 spinners on an obvious turner or you have no confidence in your second spinner (Anyway how can one be even 10% confident with what Lyon is bowling), then why take 4 spinners on the tour? England have proved to be more skillful and intelligent than Australia by playing to win unlike Australia who want to show to the world that they play their own brand of cricket. Whole load of rubbish!!

Posted by gregjones on (February 28, 2013, 18:12 GMT)

Clarke is a fine captain but his handling of his spinner(s) has been woeful to say the least.Lyon is nothing but average which is proved even further by his 1st class record which is rubbish.Why the hell have they taken Doherty, Ashton Agar and Smith along?The only notable bowling from Lyon was his debut match where he got 5 wkts on a turning pitch.Just like that, he has been selected for the next 10 years.The Aussie selectors are even worse than the Indian ones.Clarke had said that talk is cheap but he already talked cheap when he said that the Aussies cannot play like England to win in India.But the fact is that only "WINS' count.England are easily ahead of Aussies by miles because they played to a specific plan and executed it brilliantly.Even Gilchrist had a plan against India in 2004.He totally dried the runs by posting fielders at the boundary for specific shots and the Indians fell prey to it.But Clarke does not seem to have any plan whatsoever and the OZ are paying for it.

Posted by   on (February 28, 2013, 17:27 GMT)

problem in ACB he cant groom any spinner.,.,.

Posted by jiten1 on (February 28, 2013, 15:57 GMT)

Very good analysis by Ian Chappell. As an Indian fan, I would tend to be more biased towards India. I think he is right about Ashwin he bowled consistently in one area and concentrated on his off spin. I think he should completely forget about the carrom ball, bowl it about once every 10 overs. But the bigger problem about that ball is that he tends to pitch around middle and leg to the right handers, and that is easy pickings to get off strike. The other variation to the left handers however, the arm ball, should be used sparingly though, as this is a more attacking delivery and can put doubts in to the mind about the off spinner. All in all, Ashwin should be bowling the off spinner 95% of the time, concentrating on pitching it full in one area, just short of a half volley length.

Posted by Webba84 on (February 28, 2013, 10:19 GMT)

@farkin, Not any spinner mate, just the aussie ones.

Posted by farkin on (February 28, 2013, 7:52 GMT)

Australia lacks confidence in any spinner

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