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Chappell: 'I can't imagine how it's going to help team morale'

Former Australia captain Ian Chappell discusses the axing of key Australian players from the third test against India in Mohali (05:39)

ESPNcricinfo staff

March 11, 2013

Posted by   on (March 13, 2013, 8:07 GMT)

Well done Arthur, He made India's 3rd victory easier....

Posted by Vasi-Koosi on (March 13, 2013, 2:48 GMT)

There was a period after the Allen Border the Taylor/Waugh era where there were a few folks who did not know what it was to lose a test match. The mantra was that just show up and win; a lot of folks thought that literally. The forgot, the kind of bowlers/batsmen who were on show and the kind of work ethics these guys had. Not to mention the man management skills of the captains. All this changed when McGrath, Warne, Gilli, Haydo and Langer retired; Ricky Ponting for all his greatness, has to take the blame a lot more than anyone else. 1st casualty was Bret Lee, then came along Andrew Symonds, the last one was Simon Katich. For all the professionalism that CA has been touted for, handling of Simon was one of the most unprofessional things. This started the rott, not to mention the dropping of Hussey for the Indian tour. The selectors have forgotten that players cannot just showup and win for Australia any more. The sooner they get back on track it is better

Posted by JackFlash on (March 12, 2013, 23:43 GMT)

Ian Chappell was one of the great cricket thinkers and without doubt one of our best ever Captains. He is absolutely correct here and the question must be asked of Clarke as Captain? First there was Symonds, then Katich, then Hussey abruptly retires now we have this fiasco with 4 players being axed and Clarke appears to be the motivating force behind it. Arthur should have nothing to do with writing reports or any team selections and all of these matters should be in the hands of the Captain and the Captain currently believes that his recent run of good form places him above the team and has a do as i say attitude. That's okay if you are solely responsible for the team and it's on field performance. Bart Simpson type of homework and punishment just wreaks of elitism. Ian Chappell was concerned only with his team's on field efforts and he built that national team into a side that regained the Ashes, defended it and then beat the mighty West Indies 5-1 in 1975/6.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 14:04 GMT)

What does Mickey Arthur knows about test cricket or any level of international cricket? He didn't even play a single match in international level.

Posted by landl47 on (March 12, 2013, 13:48 GMT)

Ian Chappell isn't one of the great cricket thinkers. He was lucky to have Lillee, Thompson, Walker and Mallett, one of the best Australian attacks of all time, and his own brother, one of the great batsmen, in the side when he was captain. His side wasn't well-disciplined and quickly fell apart, leading to one of the poorest stretches for Australian cricket between 1977 and 1989.

Had he taken team discipline seriously, Aus would have not fallen into that trap (yes, I know WSC came along, but the damage was done by then). These comments show that he still hasn't learned that great teams don't loll about failing to follow team orders, they take playing for Aus seriously. Comments like his, giving the malcontents something to feed on, don't help the team.

Posted by kmgnath on (March 12, 2013, 11:35 GMT)

When there is crisis, Things (teams) do fall apart. CA never was in this situation in recent past. Sometime its really tough, where do you draw the line. In current scenario, Reality might be different , than what is on paper. I still believe Aus cricket team is more of Coach centric, so its good many ways to controle the team, otherwise it will be different. India should be carefull for the third test match, because each and everyone in the aus team will put more than 100%, India shouldn't relax the guard, to let them take over. India has to soffocate tham, so Aus team crumble like pack of cards, Otherwise they will comeback strong.

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 10:54 GMT)

Pup forgot his performances under Ricky Ponting. What was his scores except in the last year. Very poor. It was even felt that he may not hold his place in the side. All players go thru a bad patch. It sure looks more like discipline related than performance related. Anyway good luck pup. In any case in my opinion Shane Watson was no great cricketer. I feel sorry for Patti and Osman.

Posted by thinktank1 on (March 12, 2013, 8:31 GMT)

@kulaputra: you don't have anything else to say?

Posted by Kulaputra on (March 12, 2013, 8:11 GMT)

Can we have better quality from the questioner - a bit more preparation and fluency in questions and brevity. Let the expert talk more and don't lead him. It would have been wonderful to get Ian Chappel's reaction to 1. if he was a player being axed 2. If he was a player not being axed 3. if he was the captain

Quality helps !!!

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 6:17 GMT)

When Australia have people like Shane Warne, and Tom Moody who can be great coaches, why import someone from South Africa who just can't do the job. Poor decisions all the way through..

Posted by donaldbadman on (March 12, 2013, 4:59 GMT)

valid questions.without being being rude, perhaps the accent could be worked on?

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 3:15 GMT)

The Interviewer seems to be a lot tensed. Better presentation/homework (lol) will be needed both by the interviewer and the Australian players ....

Posted by   on (March 12, 2013, 2:42 GMT)

Chappell is right. This could do more damage to the morale of the team. It should have been handled more diplomatically. Military discipline does not work in sports.

Posted by KhanMitch on (March 11, 2013, 23:43 GMT)

I can see maybe what they were trying to do with this self reflection, but it is a bad method of improvement.Honestly, it they wanted the blokes to spend some time thinking about things, I wouldn't give them texting, or leaving a message as an option to report in. It would be a detailed written report.I mean a text saying "How you are going to contribute"? Play well? Not get out? What did they expect to receive in these reports. It is a token, pathetic gesture.On the other hand, if the boys refused to do it because it is so pathetic, different story than two blokes forgetting to do it, and the other two going to see the coach the day after they were meant to hand it in. Johnson and Khawaja must be scratching their heads wondering how they got caught in this given they didn't play a single ball yet. Pattinson is our best fast bowler and what the hec does this tell him. Don't even get me started on the second in charge leaving the tour. Border and Lehman are speakinga lot of senseHow did

Posted by mcj.cricinfo on (March 11, 2013, 21:30 GMT)

I agree with sportofpain. With 16 people you have to use man management skills. Mickey Arthur doesn't have the skills required, and the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Maybe this is why Mickey Arthur fell out with Graeme Smith. If Pup had been captain longer then likely he would have found a way around this problem.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 19:08 GMT)

I think the answer to Chappelli's point is that it probably won't help morale, at least not in the short term. But it will help discipline, immediately.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 18:53 GMT)

Would be good to understand the actual questions - they should have been scripted.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 17:50 GMT)

Clarke is such a prefect.. and he has made sure he's got runs on the board before 'wielding his power'. Worst captain Australia has ever had.

Posted by sportofpain on (March 11, 2013, 16:48 GMT)

On this subject of discipline, different players are different - man management is the key here. The team should be motivated to perform - why ask them to write stuff down - that isn't how they got picked to play for Australia in the first place. It's the Coach and team managements job to figure out what is going wrong and turn the tide. Asking players who were not even in the XI to write about how to improve seems unfair - they didn't get a chance to perform so how are they going to improve? And how do you ask Khwaja to writhe about how the team should improve? He is a young player - if he suggested something, it could be so easily misconstrued as a young person showing up some senior players - Don't put thse players in these uncomfortable positions. You only do that if you want them to fail. And now so much dirty linen in public - wow

Posted by kriskingle on (March 11, 2013, 15:30 GMT)

What abiggs says is very sensible and practical, but the fact that these people did not hand in their three points for improving their game does not mean they are not thinking about improving at all. These are professionals, they realise that it is up to them to identify what is wrong with their game and what adaptations they need to make to it. The fact that these players didn't give in their inputs also points to the fact that there is a lack of communication between the top tier and the players, maybe even cliques within the team, because I cannot imagine that players who have come up through the strict coaching system would rebel so openly. If I were Mickey Arthur, I would look at the problem of communicating with players, which to my mind is the bigger issue here.

Posted by Peter_Walters on (March 11, 2013, 14:52 GMT)

Does not essay means trying :-)

Posted by abiggs on (March 11, 2013, 14:36 GMT)

Why can't people grasp the fact that this wasn't an essay Arthur was looking for, it was literally three dot points on what the team could do to improve and how each player could contribute. That's not even a half an hour job, and when you're being paid as much as these guys are, you do what you're asked. Introspection and goal setting is a vital part of sports psychology and this has shown that Clarke & Co. are dead serious about what they want to achieve. More power to them.

Posted by Hiteshvara on (March 11, 2013, 13:57 GMT)

Slightly disappointed that Interviewer is very nervous and is not asking questions in the correct way..Could have been lot better..Clearly chappell is very disappointed but is controlling his emotions..

Posted by rollyko on (March 11, 2013, 13:35 GMT)

With Pattinson we haven't been getting 20 wickets either. Ian Chappell ran a very undisciplined team during his day. One that underacheived in spite of enormous talent. He is hardly one to comment.

Posted by Haleos on (March 11, 2013, 13:28 GMT)

@Sunil_Batra - whats so special about khwaja? He should have atleast written a nice easy in the free time. He could have written - I will carry drinks faster next time without spilling.

Posted by   on (March 11, 2013, 13:05 GMT)

Please stop the verbose questions. The interviewees and we the followers understand the context. Let us hear the interviewee. And if he doesn't answer the question, then ask a follow-up question. Please :)!

Posted by Sunil_Batra on (March 11, 2013, 12:45 GMT)

Chappell as usual makes alot of sense. This decision is not right. My son said to me that when i'm older I want to play cricket for Australia, so .......I can write me some good essays. Seriously this decision doesn't make sense. I've been watching cricket for over 40 years. this season is the first time i've felt like giving up on the Australian cricket team i want to see the best 11 players playing. the rotation policy is a joke,then they want the fans to pay heaps of money to watch the second 11 players play, guys like Khawaja can't get a single game with some excuse found, Watson goes home when we need him most because he hasn't done an essay. Wihtout Pattinson we won't get 20 wickets.

Posted by shankyvar on (March 11, 2013, 12:42 GMT)

A piece of advice to the interviewer here. When talking to experts, keep your questions short and to the point. I mean it was sounding a bit irritating at times. I can understand that u might be new at this. Still you need to get your homework done before interview someone of the caliber of Ian Chappel. Take it as a positive criticism. Cheers!

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