England in India 2011

'I'm back on track' - Patel

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October 6, 2011

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Samit Patel during England's training session, Hyderabad, October 6, 2011
Samit Patel's talent has never been in question, but he's only got a second chance with England after taking the team's work ethic on board © AFP
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England allrounder Samit Patel has admitted that his fitness problems are not behind him yet, but insisted that his work ethic has changed and he's headed in the right direction.

Before he was recalled this summer, Patel had been out of the England set-up since their last tour of India in 2008. It was made clear by the England management that it was his attitude to fitness that was keeping him out of the side, and there was always the feeling that he had the talent to be an England cricketer if only he take on board the team's strict work ethic.

"If I did the right stuff I was very confident of getting back and I had good vibes from the management," Patel told reporters in India after England's arrival for their limited-overs series. "I knew my cricket wasn't the issue, it was the other stuff."

There is no place for complacency in the England team under coach Andy Flower's tutelage, and the attitudinal shift to accept the mantra of constant self-evaluation and improvement has been perhaps the hardest challenge for Patel. "It's a big one really," he added. "To be willing to do the work and show the attitude to do it was a big thing for me. I hope I've overcome that now. Not fully yet. It doesn't change overnight, there is a long way to go."

"It's a combination [of things], training harder, doing the hours. The willingness to train was probably one of the issues, but attitude-wise I'm back on track and going in the right direction.

"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink. But things are going quite well. I've lost a bit of weight and attitude-wise, training is the big one for the ECB and England, the willingness to do the work. Maybe I didn't show that but now I'm doing it."

Patel's change in direction did not come in time for him to win a World Cup place with England earlier this year, however, and he admits there is no-one to blame for that regret but himself. "It was huge, very disappointing," he added. "The fact that I should have been there was so disappointing. But I can't blame anyone else but myself."

Despite spending much of the last three years in the international wilderness, Patel was kept informed by the England management and always knew what was required of him. "They always kept me in the loop and told me what to do. They wouldn't have picked me in the summer otherwise."

The issue of discipline will not apply only to Patel as England seek to extend their successful summer overseas. The bowling attack will be without James Anderson and Stuart Broad, and there will be plenty of pressure on a young seam attack featuring Tim Bresnan, Steven Finn, Jade Dernbach, Chris Woakes and the uncapped Stuart Meaker.

Bresnan, who has built a reputation for metronomic accuracy with the new ball, will have to take up to role of senior bowler in the absence of Anderson and Broad. "It's obviously different bowling in England than in India," said Bresnan. "In England, you may gather some seam when the ball is new. With wickets playing different in India, I view it as a challenge.

"We have to bowl very tightly with the new ball. We have to bowl very accurately and very straight. Otherwise, you will be hit for runs. We have young bowlers who have a lot of talent. If we bowl well, we can pick up early wickets.

"It's a fresh start and a new challenge for us. We are going into this series with exactly the same mentality with which we won in England. We are still looking to improve and looking forward to the challenge."

© ESPN Sports Media Ltd.

Posted by   on (October 7, 2011, 21:12 GMT)

"I knew my cricket wasn't the issue, it was the other stuff." - the two dropped sitters in the last ODI of this summer suggest otherwise.

Posted by 5wombats on (October 7, 2011, 18:37 GMT)

The usual GARBAGE... india only lose because they field a C or D team, or because they lose the toss. What UTTER RUBBISH. I'm going to soo enjoy watching England beat the do do out of india again in the next few days.

Posted by bumsonseats on (October 7, 2011, 15:46 GMT)

justk. we know how to lose we have been doing it for years and in fact we are quite good at it. so just let us have our time in the sun. my friend if you have 100s of the mentioned types, my advice is play them because the 1s u sent for the test and 1 dayers did not play as they should have maybe u need to did deeper into that list. dpk

Posted by   on (October 7, 2011, 15:18 GMT)

@5wombats you get your facts right. SINCE 2004,INDIA HAVE WON ODI SERIES IN AUS, NZ , SRI,(THRICE) PAK,(TWICE),WI(TWICE ,GAYLE MISSED LAST SREIES) WITH INEXPERIENCED,A-TEAMS.ONLY AUS CHALLENGED INDIA AT HOME. ZIM TEAM WAS INDIA-D TEAM YOU DIDN'T SEE THAT?

WHEN DID ENG WIN IN NZ , PAK ,INDIA ? STOP LYING. YOU LOST TO NZ AT HOME LOL. INDIA (LIKE PAKISTAN)HAS NOT PLAYED WITH FULL STRENGTH TEAM SINCE FEB 2009, NZ TOUR IN ODIS.YOU UNDERSTAND WORLD CUP WAS THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THIS? YOUR BOWLERS GETTING SMASHED MOST OF THE ODI ON GREEN PITCHES (EVEN AFTER INDIA WERE 58/5 ,LOL THEIR ONLY GOOD PERFORMANCE) AND THEY WERE MARGINALLY BETTER THAN INDIANS ,TOSS ALSO HELPED THEM, ENGLAND FANS IGNORING THIS ARE PLAIN BIASED(INDIAN BOWLERS WERE TERRIBLE THOUGH).

Posted by voma on (October 7, 2011, 14:55 GMT)

@ RandyOzz . England have won 3 out of the last 4 Ashes series , just thought i would remind you of that fact ! .

Posted by Emperor_Selassie on (October 7, 2011, 13:43 GMT)

I can't help but feel that Adil Rasheed could have done well witha little more focus on him, especially seeming as the set up have given Patel all the time in the world. Maybe even a bit more competition between the two for a place would be good.

Posted by justk on (October 7, 2011, 12:55 GMT)

@english supporters: one series and they think that they are on top of this world..and on that world cup debalce, the score of 325 was not suffucient against ireland itself because of that road called bangalore..last time in CL T20 215 was chased down..and you guys are banking on kieswitter india have 100s of kieswitter type players and they will never make the cut..this is the difference..the quality of the players who will make it there..and winning and losing is part of a game..need to look how well the team shapes up..and lastly, england will find it very tough and will not even give a fight..where as indian team atleast gave a tough fight in england..only the rains made things worse

Posted by 5wombats on (October 7, 2011, 11:25 GMT)

@Karthik Raja - you need to get your facts right; England did just fine the last time they played ODI in Sri Lanka (they won) and in South Africa (they won). Conversely it is india that is " not so good in other tracks". Given india's hopeless away record I would say that thr is not much for india to boast abt.

Posted by bumsonseats on (October 7, 2011, 10:08 GMT)

randyoz. the ashes defeat must have hurt u bad. nice to find your writen words never changes. im also pleased that i could never think of that great australian team after those thrashing they gave us during that time that i could or would write similar. dpk

Posted by   on (October 7, 2011, 9:00 GMT)

@jagatr "Our bowling will come apart at the seams on flat tracks - I'll never believe they can defend a total below 400". If you have this view i must say you should watch Eng-Ban match in the WC. Eng managed to score only 225. Naeem,Abdur,Shakib were enough for England. Imagine what we can do with Ashwin,Rahul and Jadeja. I dont think this England side has the experience to play in India. We made a lot of difference in the last two ODI's played in England with two spinners. In the 4th ODI we almost won and in the 5th Eng needed a very special performance to win. But they still have very good players Bell ,KP, Bopara, Bresnan and Swann. Bell and KP can play spinners well. Bresnan and Swann can bowl well even on flat tracks. Other than that there is not much to worry about. The selectors could have picked Ojha instead of Rahul. But yes Rahul offers variety to the attack.

Posted by 5wombats on (October 7, 2011, 9:00 GMT)

@rahulcricket007; LOL. You are joking right. Despite your claim that;" india is almost unbeatable at home" - a tired England were ONE RUN away from beating a fresh fit india team in india in the WC recently. Perhaps you forgot, so please don't call your india team so great especially in odis away from home (remember Zimbabwe last year?). You clearly don't follow cricket as you say; "just one odi series win at home that too". Dead wrong. In fact, since 2007 England have won ODI series against West Indies, South Africa, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Australia, Sri Lanka and India. Our last away ODI series in Sri Lanka and South Africa resulted in England series wins. If you knew anything about cricket - then you would know this. @ RandyOZ; your comments about England bench strength are so ridiculous that they do not require a reply, except to say that if Australia had any bench strength then half of the team would be long gone. LOL. please publish.

Posted by   on (October 7, 2011, 8:55 GMT)

@landl47.. What u hv comfortable forgotten is all the mentioned series were played in England(except SA).. In the same period, they played in Aus(lost 6-1) in subcontinet for WC(we knw d result) , WI(won 3-2), Ind(lost 5-0).. they also lost to AUS @ home 6-1.. So, get ur facts right.. While.. England have won @ home, they r not so good in other tracks.. Same applies for all current TEAMs.. My point is.. thr is not much for ENG to boast abt it..

Posted by shishir7 on (October 7, 2011, 8:25 GMT)

India have a chance to regain their lost pride. Wake up India !!!!!!!! It will be a tough series. For me it is 50-50. Athough England have beaten India comprehensively in England but still it will be a tough series. You do not have players like Andrew Flintoff who can change the things around.

Believe me Indians are very good in flat tracks.

Posted by 122AKSHAY on (October 7, 2011, 8:24 GMT)

he is saying this because shewag is not in the indian team . hope is will not remember last tour of india.

Posted by jagatr on (October 7, 2011, 7:49 GMT)

I'll be there in every match, cheering for India - and I must add that I fear I'll be cheering for the losing side. Our bowling will come apart at the seams on flat tracks - I'll never believe they can defend a total below 400, unless on a dusty spinning track. Which is exactly what we should prepare - its a home series and we should play to our strengths. We are greeted with fast green tracks when we travel overseas - its only fair to greet our visitors with slow, under-prepared dust bowls where the ball turns square. And no, Swann isnt a problem....its the faster guys who pose the real threat.

Posted by jezzabel on (October 7, 2011, 7:34 GMT)

@ Sri Tej Ravi: "If we had played our best team in England it would have been a lot different" -- that's a very big 'if'! Looking at it another way, you did play your best team in England because so many were injured, ill-prepared or both and couldn't step up. England could only play the team that showed up -- the record will show that India fielded the best they had available, and it wasn't good enough.

But I do agree with you -- England will face a much tougher task against India at home -- and and India hungry for revenge . . .

Posted by Gupta.Ankur on (October 7, 2011, 6:13 GMT)

Is he back on track to "gain" weight?

Posted by RandyOZ on (October 7, 2011, 5:59 GMT)

English will get torn apart in India. They are a very average side with little to no bench strength who have had a good couple of years. Whoop de do we had a good couple of years for the last two decades!

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 7, 2011, 5:57 GMT)

@front foot lunge. i think you forgot that india is almost unbeatable at home. so please don't call your england team so great espeecially in odis by just one odi series win at home that too against a third grade indian team.

Posted by landl47 on (October 7, 2011, 5:49 GMT)

Some interesting comments here, although some people don't seem to follow the game very closely. In the last 2 years England have won ODI series against West Indies, South Africa, Bangladesh, Pakistan, Australia, Sri Lanka and India. They get the label as not a very good ODI side because they have lost two post-Ashes series to Australia and they didn't have a great World Cup, but all three of those losses were because of poor scheduling by the ECB. When they played Australia in a stand-alone series they won and they've just beaten both WC finalists in 5-game series. They do have weaknesses, principally a genuine #6 who can bowl; they're looking at Stokes for that role, but he's not ready yet. They also need another spinner who can bat, which is where Samit comes in, but he's a bit lightweight (as a bowler, that is). Borthwick might be the answer down the road, but he's only 21 with a handful of matches played. This tour will be good experience for him.

Posted by   on (October 7, 2011, 4:55 GMT)

@Front-Foot-Lunge "India have a long way to go to get to where England are" LOL. Which team in the recent past was beaten by both Bangladesh and Ireland? If you are rating this England team by their performnaces at home, you are not being fair to the other teams. India is already a very good team. If we had played our best team in England it would have been a lot different. In India,England can expect slow wickets and a three spinner attack. Ashwin,Jadeja and Rahul Sharma are good enough for England. Batting in the subcontinent wont be a problem for our batsmen. Remember we batted second in the England ODI series in all the matches. The wet conditions played a big role for our spinners who could not turn the ball. I dont want to say anything more. Eagerly waiting for the Oct-14 Hyd ODI.

Posted by Guernica on (October 6, 2011, 21:11 GMT)

Blackwell, Dalrymple, Yardy - is Samit just another one in this sequence of decent batters who bowl tidy-but-not-particularly-threatening spin? I hope he can become more than that. They were all decent players to be honest but were just not quite good enough - although I think Blackwell should have been given more of a chance at the time.

Posted by Patchmaster on (October 6, 2011, 20:20 GMT)

I dont think he brings much to the team, and he seem to go against everything that ENG stand for now, i.e. work ethic, fitness and agility etc etc. He has been run out at least once in his short career by his sluggishness and has dropped a sitter or two in the outfield. I say he needs to prove his fitness and 'new look' on the County circuit. ENG must have the same rule on fitness and attitude to everyone, and they shouldn't make exceptions for him.

Posted by fabilox on (October 6, 2011, 20:00 GMT)

It would be nice to see him play but my guess is he will not make the final 11. Happy to see peiterson back in the squad even if is by default. go england. cant wait to see you play against the west indies again

Posted by 5wombats on (October 6, 2011, 19:28 GMT)

@landl47 - perfectly put, dead right, right down to the comment about eating the free lunch (which made me roar with laughter!). I enjoyed watching Patel bowl recently - he was a revelation, cool batting too! England have history of picking so-called "bits and pieces players", Collingwood being a good and effective example. To be honest - I think Patel is another one of these. ODI/50ovs seems to be the format where a bit of everything is required and Patel fits the bill - bowls a bit, bats a bit, and he's looking like the right man for the second spinner/extra bat role in india. Monty Panesar only bowls a bit, and that's all. It's good that Patel is in the frame. In this England regime - which demands considerable commitment, Patel has done well to get this far. If he is wise - he will keep working at his game, and we'll finally see just how good he actually is. Go for it Samit.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (October 6, 2011, 18:54 GMT)

England enforce the higest standards because they are the best in the world. Samit Patel has been on the recieving end of the application of these standards as he has never had the application that every other member of the team has had with regards to fitness and training. It's one of the main reasons England are the world number 1. When Indian fans on here bring up Swann and words like 'untested' in the same sentence it makes me laugh: India would kill for a bowler like Swann, the world number 1 spinner and has been for the last couple of years quite frankly. Thinking about it, they'd kill for the likes of Anderson (don't forget he's world number 1 amongst fielders/bowlers as well as the best with Steyn). You must have had the most eye-opening last few months India, England answered the argument as to who's the better team with one of the most decisive series win in the history of the game. India have a long way to go to get to where England are.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (October 6, 2011, 18:18 GMT)

@Deepfreezed - You mean how Swann became the #1 spinner by playing half his matches in unfavorable spin condition in England with the Oval being the exception?

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (October 6, 2011, 16:56 GMT)

They need Patel when the pitch require 2 spinners. It's plain and simple. People need to understand that ODI format need 5 bowlers so for teams without decent all rounders, this lengthen the tail as opposed to Test format where you only need 4 bowlers. India for years have gone with 7 batsmen and 4 bowlers in ODI relyiing on part-timers like Ganguly, Yuraj, Tendulkar to fill in the other 10 overs. Ofcourse having a Jacques Kallis simplifies it but a Kallis don't grow on trees. England's method has always been to find bowlers who can bat a bit like Broad, Bresnan and Swann which is why they have been trying to push the likes of Ben Stokes and Chris Woaks. Borthwick is the other spinner who can bat a bit but it looks like Samit is ahead of him atm for the 2nd spinner spot. Rashid seem to have fell off the radar, terrible season this year and they tried Tredwell last time. It's still a work in progress as far as the 2nd spinner is concerned just like the batting for the #6 spot.

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (October 6, 2011, 16:29 GMT)

In ODIs England need a competent attacking lower order barsman who can bowl good quality spin. Come in Mr Patel your number is up...

Posted by Deepfreezed on (October 6, 2011, 16:13 GMT)

let hold judgment of Swann's brilliance till he gets through the Indian tour. It is one thing to huff an puff at home, but another thing to really perform.

Posted by bumsonseats on (October 6, 2011, 16:05 GMT)

as to rising stars this is a 50 overs game and although home games, we can be ok i dont expect us to win, maybe 1 - 4 india. as to panesar he does not tick all the boxes to gain entry to 50 overs games, other than his bowling. samit patel has lost some weight but not all. so his batting potential and fielding is much better than monty .i expect us to score runs but not as many as india.perhaps we could do with some rain. dpk

Posted by   on (October 6, 2011, 16:05 GMT)

Why would England play Samit again!?? they have good all rounders in Bresnan, stokes, bopara, swann is a good spinner, pietersen can bowl a bit. Samit is a waste. Get in Good young players

Posted by SDHM on (October 6, 2011, 14:57 GMT)

@boris - I think half the problem is that he plays a different role for England that he does for Notts. He's expected to come in down the order for England and immediately start spanking the ball around, whereas he comes in at four for the Outlaws and gets a chance to bat longer. He's a better player than a lower order slogger, but there are too many players attempting to cram their way into that England top five for him to get up there. I feel he's in the one day set up for his bowling mainly, even though it's not his stronger suit.

Posted by Gizza on (October 6, 2011, 13:42 GMT)

If only India had enforced similar rules we wouldn't have seen a fat Zaheer, Sehwag and Gambhir among others enter a Test tour unfit. Such lack of discipline is a serious hurdle for subcontinental cricket in general.

Posted by allblue on (October 6, 2011, 13:35 GMT)

If the Indian team management took the same view as the England regime, half of their team would not have toured last summer. These days top level cricketers, particularly Indian and English ones, earn superstar wages. They don't just make a living, they become wealthy men from the sport, so it is not unreasonable to expect a dedicated, professional approach from them. Away from the cricket field they have to live an athlete's life, make certain sacrifices in return for the rewards. Samit should have been an established important member of the England ODI set-up by now, but he's had to learn the hard way. As an England fan I'm delighted he is making the effort because he has a lot of talent, and if he keeps working at it he has a good, albeit delayed, international career in front of him.

Posted by cyclist00752 on (October 6, 2011, 13:23 GMT)

I am surprised they need Samit Patel so much, I mean England already has decent all-rounders in Bresnan and Broad and a brilliant spinner in Swann. If they want a left arm spinner then they have Monty Panesar, nothing against Samit Patel, but he should count himself extremely lucky that he is not forgotten!

Posted by landl47 on (October 6, 2011, 13:14 GMT)

There are no free lunches in this England side (which is just as well or Samit would probably have eaten them). I think many people misunderstand Flower's attitude; he's not concerned about Samit's weight so much as what it represents. England these days want players who are determined to be the best that they can be, because those players have the fortitude to perform under pressure. Samit, by his own admission, has found that hard, but hopefully he's now grasped what it takes to get into the England side. He's a very gifted cricketer, he just needs the work ethic of a Bresnan or Cook to become a top player. It would be interesting to ask Flower about the players he admires most in other countries' teams; my bet is that people like Rahul Dravid and Mike Hussey would top the list over more naturally talented players like Sehwag or Gayle. Dravid and Hussey will give you everything they've got, every game, and they do the work necessary to make sure they can. Samit, take note.

Posted by boris6491 on (October 6, 2011, 12:59 GMT)

In all honestly, I haven't seem much of Samit Patel but for his sporadic appearances for England where his performances haven't been eye catching. His record for the Notts speaks for itself but this will be a keen test for him. Albeit the fact that they aren't playing tests, this series will prove whether England are truly rising in international cricket or whether they remain home ground bullies. Their record in ODIs, prior to the India series at home, hasn't been the best.

Posted by PiyushD on (October 6, 2011, 12:53 GMT)

It will not be easy for England in India, only fall is that India is depleted and the captain is out of form and out of luck.

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