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'We still average 53 as an opening pair' - Gambhir

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October 25, 2012

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Virender Sehwag and Gautam Gambhir with their pads on, Mumbai, November 21, 2011
Gautam Gambhir has defended his opening partnership with Virender Sehwag, saying they are still the best choice for India at the top of the order © AFP
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Gautam Gambhir and Virender Sehwag haven't put on a century stand in Tests in nearly two years raising questions over the pair's future but Gambhir has insisted they are still the best openers in India.

Gambhir and Sehwag have been among India's most durable Test opening pairs, and one of only five combinations to put on more than 4000 Test runs at the top of the order but their form has dwindled over the past couple of years.

"We still average 53 as an opening pair, which I think is one of the best when it comes to opening the batting in world cricket," Gambhir told PTI. "There are not many opening pairs who have played for such a long time and have an average of 53 per innings. And if 53 is not good enough, I don't know what is good enough.

"As an opening pair, you average 50 per inning and if you are giving 50 runs start in every innings, you can't do more and if people talk about not contributing, I will suggest them to look at the stats."

While their overall figures are still pretty good, the pair are under scrutiny due to their performance on India's abysmal tour of Australia last season, when Gambhir and Sehwag's highest stand in eight innings was 26.

Gambhir also hasn't scored a Test century in nearly three years, though he insisted that shouldn't be the criterion by which a batsman should be judged.

"It's not about scoring a hundred every time, it's about contributing when you are opening the batting. It's not only me, a lot of other people have also not scored tons.

"People only discuss about scoring a hundred, I don't know why. I got 93 in South Africa, 85-odd in Australia...15 or seven more and people would not be discussing my hundred."

Gambhir and Sehwag are expected to be India's openers for the home Test series against England which starts in mid-November.

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Posted by kanevs11 on (October 28, 2012, 18:05 GMT)

what we should do is to find a new pair not FLAT TRACK BULLIES!!!!!!!!!

Posted by cricket9lover on (October 28, 2012, 8:58 GMT)

In present situation I would like to see shikhar dhawan and rahane opening and including ishant,yadav & awana/pathan as pacers,ashwin ojha bhajji as spinners if selectors really think to do some good to indian cricket then select them for test cricket when selected then only will we know which pair is good gambhir sehwag or dhawan rahane,mind it rahane and dhawan are good puller and hooker good signs to succeed overseas.Though gambhir and sehwag are still good in one dayers.

Posted by mylife4cricket on (October 27, 2012, 9:58 GMT)

i think it has been a long time since i have seen India-100/0! i think they both are putting pressure themselves by going for some ridiculous shots and getting out,and i dont understand why?because they have played together for more than 5yrs and know each other very well.BCCI should take this seriously because its openers responsibility to provide a good start for the team and INdia's strength is their batting. For the last 3 years openers are not performing and middle order is feeling the pressure and in the end, team is losing.Lets wait and see against England!

Posted by ajeeshferdin10 on (October 27, 2012, 5:07 GMT)

steve finn will tear you away gambhir and your partner viru will be fried by swing of anderson...he he he...INDIAN

Posted by Atticus100 on (October 27, 2012, 4:46 GMT)

Hilarious! Gambhir, you rock!! You dont deserve a place in the Indian team based on your performance in the last three years. If it is past records that is the criterion for selection today, then we should bring in back Sunil Gavaskar as opener. As per Stats, he is the best Indian Opener of all time without a shadow of doubt!!

Posted by joseyesu on (October 27, 2012, 4:43 GMT)

Ofcourse they were the best and not now. Sehwag is more like afridi now and gambir in wanting to maintain a strike rate, is getting out early. I will not be surprised if they score 100 or more runs here. It is in overseas they left out the pride.

Posted by maximus1982 on (October 27, 2012, 4:06 GMT)

gambir is a nut shell. look at he average outside india and see how you and Shewag has performed...........

Posted by FRRR on (October 26, 2012, 22:05 GMT)

First the focus should be on getting rid of Tendulkar. Then sehwag and Dhoni should go ,,,,

Posted by Cricketfan101 on (October 26, 2012, 15:51 GMT)

Rohits turn to say that gambhir and sehwag are the best in the nets

Posted by SasiGladi on (October 26, 2012, 14:53 GMT)

Yes Viru and GG were most prominent openers for India, but GG you forgot ur technic both against fast and spin bowlers was so perfect thats the main reason for u to sustain such long time but you strenght is fading way u r getting out is because of bad technic....we do remember u have scored most consecutive fifties......but forget about centuries we havent witnessed any fighting innings from you after WC final...it is agreed u guys still deserve to open against ENG but please recall your strength and work on it.......

Posted by   on (October 26, 2012, 14:19 GMT)

I am wondering why "overseas" stats do not come into the picture...."Who cares your average when you one good game and play 9 bad games"....Sorry for Viru and Gautam :(

Posted by   on (October 26, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

It smacks of the old Indian entitlement mentality. I am astounded that GG did not claim that since his grandfather had scored 79 runs in 41 innings in street cricket 65 years ago he is entitled to open (up?) the Indian batting till hos grandson takes over in 2045.

Posted by indianpunter on (October 26, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

It is this attitude which has led to his downfall. Non performance is one thing, arrogance and lack of insight is quite another. I am glad that the new selection committee has picked 3 openers in the A team. Pressure squarely on "Outam" Gambhir.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (October 26, 2012, 11:47 GMT)

Gauti and Viru are still there because of SRT. Drop SRT from the team to send a message to every body - perform or perish

Posted by npunks on (October 26, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

this is the difference between INDIAN and AUSTRALIAN...warner is also not performing bt they always kept him in playing 11 coz they know that he is a match winner...so sehwag and gambhir are match winner for india so bcci should give a chance to them...if they want to become no. 1 team once again..

Posted by   on (October 26, 2012, 9:48 GMT)

Will someone tell Mr. Gambhir to shut his big mouth up, and go and make some runs? When people gloat about what they have done in the past, it is only an indication of how defensive they are currently in their mindset. Perform or perish, Mr. Gambhir. Good luck!

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 26, 2012, 9:45 GMT)

gambhir should learn a thing or two from sachin or dravid . when sachin is out of form then people ask him to take retirement but he never say anything arrogantly about them . he just give the answer to his critics with his bat . remember aus tour of 2008 when chapell was saying that sachin should retire now but sachin made centuries at sydney & adelaide & the same chapell was praising him . GAMBHIR GIVE ANSWER TO YOUR CRITICS BY YOUR BAT NOT BY YOUR MOUTH . BY YOUR ARROGANT INTERVIEWS YOU R ONLY INCREASING PRESSURE ON YOURSELVES .

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 26, 2012, 9:37 GMT)

just checked that in the tours of australia & england our opening partnership averaged only 15 . now i ask gambhir " IF 15 IS NOT BAD THEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS BAD?

Posted by Johnny_129 on (October 26, 2012, 9:17 GMT)

Gambhir's sentiments epitomizes everything that is wrong with Indian cricket - he is pointing out stats that are skewed significantly by historical data. In other words, same as resting on ones laurels - this is exactly what hinders long-term success! If Gambhir was to delve deeper into the stats and study recent and oversea's form, the story is very different!! At the end of the day it does not matter whether it is Sehwag or Rehane or Vijay or Badrinath batting for India, they are all capable of doing well - whether they choose the right practices and motivational methods is up to them. Selection is only an issue when there is a lack of talent in the country - India does not have that problem. Indian fans idolize their players like no other country and that is part of the problem....players need to be reminded that they need to give 100% every time!!!

Posted by   on (October 26, 2012, 7:06 GMT)

time to go you were best but now you need to rest.....

Posted by GlobalCricketLover on (October 26, 2012, 7:01 GMT)

Gambhir, what your partnership's average overseas? sorry, can you be a bit louder?

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 26, 2012, 6:39 GMT)

@TRAM thanx for reminding all of stats of from just a few days ago. These are the sort of players India should ring in. Together with the ones from NZ tour like Menaria, Mandeep and others. Better we fail with youth than seniors. Really we are losing badly in tests and time to change things in order for result change. Gone are the days when India could win even with seniors. The U19 tournament in OZ won by Chands team highlight this.

Posted by timtom on (October 26, 2012, 5:12 GMT)

Come on selectors ...show ur strength ...drop GG and Sehwag and pick VIjay/Rahane as their replacement for eng series....Anycase matches are in India...They dont have to fear swing/bounce/pace...and these two are in terrific domestic form..They cannot do worse than GG/Sehwag....This will also release pressure of middle order or precisely Sachin to get to his groove...

Posted by timtom on (October 26, 2012, 5:06 GMT)

GG and Sehwag has to salute the seniors....the focus has been on them for last 2 years and these guys escaped so long but now its turning on them...Still Sachin is there to cover their back...If Sachin hits form next series then these guys will be thrown out...no doubt...GG has still some fight left but Sehwag has completely lost it.. In all probability he will be the next immediate senior cricketer to retire from internationals very soon ..whether he likes or not...

Posted by Shridharan.S on (October 26, 2012, 3:47 GMT)

Ganbhir and Sehwag should be given a chance.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (October 26, 2012, 3:02 GMT)

The new selection committee should drop these 2 openers and 10dulkar. The 3 non-performers can go back to Ranji Trophy and prove themselves there. In the mean time there's no shortage of talented batsmen in Rahane, Dhawan, Mukund, Badri, Murli, Karthik, etc.

Posted by a133936 on (October 26, 2012, 2:59 GMT)

Gauti and Sehwag may have averaged 53 since day 1 but here is the problem.... since Jan 1, 2010 they average only 30.25 and reason could be that their S/R is one of the HIGHEST among all pairs since that time. Why do both have to score at such a high S/R...which a lot of time contributes to their down fall... specially Sehwa?

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;filter=advanced;orderby=fow_average;partnership_wicketmax1=1;partnership_wicketval1=partnership_wicket;qualmin1=200;qualval1=fow_runs;spanmin1=30+dec+2010;spanval1=span;template=results;type=fow

Posted by TRAM on (October 26, 2012, 2:00 GMT)

Mr. GG, 53 for openers together? If you + Sehwag score 53, that means you scored 13 and Sehwag scored 40. Are you ok to get out at 13 ?? MVijay made 2 century partnerships with Sehwag in his first test chances. In November 2008, M Vijay, in association with Abhinav Mukund, added 462 for the first wicket in a Ranji game for Tamil Nadu. They fell two short of the record. He came in when you were banned for one match. Vijay scored 33 and 41 in that match. And Vijay failed in one match abroad when you cowed out & you didn't even dare to play in pacy pitches.

(1) India B 356 for 3 (Vijay 155, Pujara 79) beat India A 217 (Rahane 64, Dhawan 61, Binny 3-26) by 139 runs.

(2)Rajasthan 253 and 43 for 1 trail Rest of India 607 for 7 declared (Vijay 266, Rahane 81, Pujara 78, Karthik 56, Badrinath 55) by 311 runs.

(3)Chennai Super Kings 222 for 5 (Vijay 113) beat Delhi Daredevil.

Just tell us in what what way you are superior to your replacement players?

Posted by gpindian on (October 26, 2012, 1:21 GMT)

A lot of people keep saying that these 2 are selfish to be putting themselves above the country. I wonder how many people would their country above their own needs. It's the job of the selectors to get the best 11 in; you cannot expect players to back out when they are out of form.

Posted by   on (October 26, 2012, 1:15 GMT)

On current form Gambhir will have to admit that they have failed for quite some time in all forms of the game. For that matter, even the great Sachin has been going through a bad phase. A player is judged on their present form and past records are nice to remind one of good days. They will have to show better temperament as they do have the ability.

Posted by abhay8157 on (October 26, 2012, 0:08 GMT)

Arrogance Mr.Gambhir is for someone who is in form and can maintain it...

Neither you nor your Delhi teammate deserve to be in the Indian team based on your current record...

Posted by cricketfannik on (October 25, 2012, 23:27 GMT)

Shame on Gauti making such excuses. I was fan of gambhir the way he played in world cup and in finals always scoring some 50s or 60s but from past 2 years he is really struggling only because of his attitude. cant belive he is saying we still avg above 50 and few ppl have commented so nicely really funny and true. either he wants to be captain coz of his success as odi cap in absence of dhoni and success of IPL is getting into his head. Sehwag is a biggest burdern in indian team, rather than playing CL league should have been playing domestic season or county atleast. Dhoni wants them out but he is unable to do so and these guys doing nothing. someone has to take a call atleast for time being throw them our dhoni their attitude is so poor cant believe he made these statements

Posted by dinuhebbar on (October 25, 2012, 23:13 GMT)

I thought Gambhir is educated and good at Maths. The 53 runs average he is talking about is the residue of gud performances way back in 20th century may be. After belting minnows He and Veeru would have piled up so many runs that even after failing for 100 more matches the average comes down in a trickle. Let Gambhir keep his hand on his heart and say the same again after going through his recent performances. Indian cricket fans may not be as educated as he is, but they are not fools to hear whatever he says.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (October 25, 2012, 20:26 GMT)

@jonesy2. Predictably you did not answer my question of how many 100 run opening stand Australia make against England in recent Ashes series in Australia. You do not answer because you know perfectly well answer is ZERO. England on the other hand score TWO 100 run openning stand against Australia. Not bad considering that England didn't even have to bat twice in THREE of their game against Australia! Thank you for drawing attention to plight of Australia cricket we all look forward so much to visit of Australia to England next year where the medicine dose will be repeated..... looking forward to reading your many excuse.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 20:05 GMT)

Oh.. by that logic.. i guess you should be replaced by Sunil Gavaskar, who has a better average.. my foot.. he played two good knocks the gritty century in NZL and the 85 against SA in SA in tough track.. otherwise just like Sehwag, he has been a flat track bully..

I am sure he will score runs now in easy conditions and will keep boasting for the next few years.. being out of form or short of runs is ok... but not this kind of arrogance..

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 20:02 GMT)

he is out of form for atleast 2+ years then why on earth he played in clt20 instead of playing domestic matches now also he is not in india A squad remember strauss played in eng vs india warm up games to get use to the indian bowling when not in the best of form.

Posted by cricisme on (October 25, 2012, 19:56 GMT)

I was the biggest fan of Gambhir but he has been on the downward path for the past year or two. Further he is making a fool out of himself by making these comments. Mr. Gambhir you are better than that please refrain from stupid comments and focus on your batting AND let the selectors decide if you are the best opener. I personally think there are better batsman, like Rahane, Pujara, M Vijay and Badri that definately deserve another chance.

Sehwag is so unreliable batsman at the top of the order like Srikanth should be dropped immediately unless he changes his attitude toward cricket. If Dhoni is a problem for these guys that BCCI needs to resolve them ASAP.

Posted by Nampally on (October 25, 2012, 19:46 GMT)

After seeing the performance of Gambhir & Sehwag in the CLT20 cricket matches, I understand that these 2 guys put their own interests above that of the team. They continue to make the same mistakes & keep getting out poking at the balls outside the off or play reckless shots. It does not matter what their opening stand was in the past. But the past 18 months show that both need to retire as they are no longer the same players as they were 2 years ago. They totally lost their credibility in all formats of the game thru their immature attidue. Let the new team with the 4 strong openers - Dhawan, Vijay, Mukund &, D.Karthik, be tested instead. At least they will put the team above themselves. New Selectors should start with a clean slate & best way is at the opening spot. It will also do justice to Kohli & Pujara to follow 2 responsible openers. It is heart breaking to follow cavaliar openers who are not performing.

Posted by grizzle on (October 25, 2012, 19:27 GMT)

I was a huge Gambhir fan --- until England last year. Since then, he's been full of excuses and way short on performance. He needs to show the same steel that he did when he saved a Test for India in NZ. Sehwag, though, is utterly incorrigible. Unprofessional in his attitude to the game and to his fitness, he is a disgrace to the Indian cricket team. Moreover, his devil-may-care attitude no longer fits at the top of an Indian batting order that has now been deprived of its middle-order steel. He needs to be dropped pronto and Rahane/Mukund brought in in his place.

Posted by ansram on (October 25, 2012, 19:24 GMT)

"And if 53 is not good enough, I don't know what is good enough."

Gambhir, you are trying to rest on past laurels. Donald Bradman would have averaged 50+ even if he scored dozens of zeroes in a row after his 52nd test. And how would you like it if Bradman scores 30 zeroes in a row and says "If 50 is not good enough, I don't know what is good enough".

The point is if you were not good enough over the past two or three years, you don't deserve an automatic spot in the team anymore and you and Sehwag must earn your spots through hard work and by playing good cricket at the domestic level.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 19:03 GMT)

@Raj12345 cant see how Badri and Vijay are better than Rahane and Pujara. Lets try the latter two for 10 tests and then decide.

Posted by test_cricket_is_real_cricket on (October 25, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

likewise, tendulkar has an average of 55 in test matches.... if he gets out on 0 for the next 28 innings, he will still average over 50... so, according to gauti, that is acceptable... and about scoring hundreds, Mr. gambhir, you average less than 30 in the last 2 years... its a senseless argument to save his place in the team... the selectors should change one of the openers and bring rahane in.... sehwag can be pushed to no. 6 and tendulkar to 5..... raina should be thrown out... at home, india will continue to win irrespective of their openers' performance, but the real problem will arise overseas, and rahane has to be groomed from now itself for south africa... THERE IS NOT A SINGLE OTHER PLAYER WHO DESERVES A PLACE IN THE INDIAN TEST TEAM... please dont make the mistake of bringing back yuvi, vijay or badri...

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

No one can agree with Gambhir, they are NOT among the best in world at the basis of current form.

Having said that, I don't think current Indian captain deserves to captain Test side. Remove him from test captainship and one might notice change in form for Indian Openers

Posted by AbAdvani on (October 25, 2012, 17:45 GMT)

Gambhir -please look up the stats and see how much you and sehwag average in the subcontinent and outside the subcontinent. Sehwag has shown that he is a sub continent bully but can barely score on bouncy and seaming pitches. Unless you improve your footwork and technique, you appear destined to follow in Sehwag's footsteps -"The Tiger at home that becomes the lamb outside".

Posted by krv954 on (October 25, 2012, 17:27 GMT)

nice try gambhir trying to fool everyone with your 50+ average quote. Since March 2011 , your partnership average is 31.05. What do you have say about that Gambhir. Check the link below

http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/engine/stats/index.html?class=1;spanmin1=01+Mar+2011;spanval1=span;template=results;type=fow

Posted by xylo on (October 25, 2012, 17:21 GMT)

If we were to only point to numbers that do not take current form into account, we might even have Gavaskar and Shastri opening the innings. If you do not admit having a problem, I do not see how you would go about overcoming it. I am hoping this came as a last resort after Gambhir getting a clue that he was going to be dropped by the selectors.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 25, 2012, 17:17 GMT)

This series will decide whether these two will ever play for India again. I mean, both of these guys are living in past glory. Gambhir still feels he's in form just like all those yeas ago when India were no.1 in test cricket. I guess somebody needs to refresh his memory and bring him back to reality. Sehwag, well he's a reckless maniac who cares very little about the team situation. He throws his bat around and could be an easy wicket for England even in Indian conditions. So it's fair to say that India would ultimately depend on Kohli, Pujara, Dhoni, and the rest to score runs for them. This is why I feel England can still surprise India from time to time. Our opening pair is simply not good enough to bring confidence.

Posted by Angry_Bowler on (October 25, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

The truth is, if you considered the fitness alone, these guys (Sehwag and Gauti) are just unfit to play even club cricket and if you look at their past two years of runs scored (especially in England and Australia) you just have to forget about them playing International Cricket. Living on past glories is not new to Indians and same with Sachin.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 17:11 GMT)

someone remember him ganguly and sachin...

Posted by Musfer on (October 25, 2012, 16:59 GMT)

Eng will tonk India...mark these words.

Posted by muski on (October 25, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

Bench both these jokers- bring in Rahane and Rayadu and give them a chance to open . Let us see how they fare.

Posted by akshathdorai on (October 25, 2012, 16:45 GMT)

In the last two years on overseas tours, this pair has put on 320 runs in 14 innings @ an average og 22. Take away their 137 in SA and their next best score has been 27 with 40% of their scores less than 9. I love this pair but I dont think this is the right time to talk bout averages Gambhir

Posted by Unmesh_cric on (October 25, 2012, 16:25 GMT)

hmmm...Gambhir cleverly avoids talking about their partnerships during the last year or two. I see a bit of arrogance in Gambhir's statements. He does not seem to be concerned about their abysmal performance in England and Australia.

Posted by Rahulbose on (October 25, 2012, 16:24 GMT)

Indian fans have forgotten the times before Sehwag started opening. Indian team used to go though opening pairs like disposable utensils. The main concern now is with Sehwag and Gambhir whether they are motivated enough to work on their fitness as they get older. Or how high test cricket is on their priority given all the Tamasha 20 cricket they play.

Posted by Raj12345 on (October 25, 2012, 16:20 GMT)

Thank god. 90% fans agree both openers are not doing anything last 2 years. Please look Sachin & Raina record too in last 2 years and say some comment.

Why Vijay should not be given chance when Yuvi will be given chance after one 200. In fact Vijay is not fully tested. When raina getting 8 tests in Row and why not M Vijay & Rahane. When we talk about Jaffer, why not Badri poor fellow not given one test series chance to prove his skill.

As of now only one cricketer Kohli deserve to be in team and rest just count.

Posted by balajeev on (October 25, 2012, 16:18 GMT)

Its atrocious that Gautam Gambhir is hiding behind averages, all he's done in text cricket in the last 3 years is poke at balls outside offstump and get out.

Posted by IndCricFan2013 on (October 25, 2012, 15:29 GMT)

@K.A.K, LOL!!! Mermaid Man & barnicle Boy!!! The Boy, I do not know why he always gets in to the controversy. The Man is old, done and dusted. If VVS says, I will get out, what is the point in playing and scoring runs in India and let young one take it over, it applies to the Mermaid Man more than any one else. Mermaid Man will only play well in sub continent. I think the boy can stay bit longer if he starts focusing on this job.

Posted by rajattiwaari on (October 25, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

I am really surprised by the utter shamelessness displayed by GAUTI . His and VIRU's performance in SA,ENG and AUS tour can only be termed as miserable. Where is the accountability? But i think not many will disagree that gauti-viru is the best option as far as opening is considered. It does not boast much about their ability but it does sums up dearth of high quality opening batsmen in our cricketing setup.

Posted by AdityaUpadhyay on (October 25, 2012, 15:22 GMT)

yes u can play til 2015 when ur average will change from 53 to 35 or even worse & India will be number 9 team in Test cricket even behind Bangladesh . This sick attitude I am observing from the day India won the WC 2011. All players think they have achieved enough to play for another decade that is evident from the body language of each & every player. If that is the case then Australia should have stopped playing after the 1987 WC triump, Michael Schumakar should have hanged his boot after first Grand Prix win or Roger Federer after he broke Pete Sampras. Only in India cricket is still being played on past laurels, you play good for 2-3 years earn some endorsements , make a living for your coming 2-3 generations, stop working on ur game & FITNESS & enjoy a long streak in the team for a decade. Clearly evident from overweight Zaheer, ever injured Gambhir, most stubborn Dhoni , my way or high way attitude Sehwag & a system which empowers these players.

Posted by real26_03 on (October 25, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

Gambhir bro u serious?? You still think You and Shewag are good enough?? You guys had enough chances... I wanna see Wassim Jaffer and Rahane/Mukund as the new opening pair...

Posted by npunks on (October 25, 2012, 15:12 GMT)

recent performance in test (innings) ; SEHWAG vs DHONI SEHWAG :- 33 55 55 38 37 60 67 7 30 4 0 10 18 62 47 43 38 DHONI :- 74 17 3 0 0 144 8 13 6 23 57 2 12 2 73 62 48

just see who is more consistent..

Posted by AsherCA on (October 25, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

The India team I would give England at the start of the series - Gambhir, Rahane, Kohli, Sehwag, Pujara, Yuvaraj, Dhoni, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Umesh & Arun / Pragyan Ojha. Since he shamelessly refuses to retire so Toshiba can pay him modelling fees, Dhoni should start by getting rid of Sachin. In case any of the top 6 are unable to score, Manoj Tiwary / Irfan Pathan / Rohit Sharma on standby. In case bowlers are unable to get wickets, Rahul Sharma & Ojha / Arun on standby.

Posted by DONNNNNNNNNNNNNNN on (October 25, 2012, 15:01 GMT)

i recon that gambhir and sehwag are still the best openers for india....

i could not see anybody else replacing them as of now.

the kind of start they provide us is the vital and if they stay on the crease for an 1 hrs they take the match away from the opponent.

india's best line up for the test 1. Sehwag 2. Gambhir 3. Virat Kohli 4. Sachin Tendulkar 5. Suresh Raina 6. Rohit sharma 7. Dhoni 8. Ashwin 9. Harbhajan 10. Zaheer 11. Umesh Yadav

12. Yuvraj Singh 13.Ishant Sharma 14. Ajinkya Rahane

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:47 GMT)

Vinod Kambli still averages 50+ as a Test batsman. Does this mean he should still be in the side?

Posted by Mann123 on (October 25, 2012, 14:43 GMT)

If past scores (that too more than two years old) no good player will ever be dropped. If you work in private sector, can you say that you showed your worth 2 years back so keep paying me. No. They will kick you out, you have to perform on consistent basis. A place in team is not your private property, other talented players have equal right as well. You do have first right, if you perform you keep it, if no let others take a shot. I think its time we start rewarding strong Domestic performers like Dhawan, Vijay, Robin Bist etc.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:43 GMT)

@Rumi1: Agree with most of the players you mentioned... except Ishant. any bowler who has played 45 tests for just over a hundred wickets doesn't deserve a place in the test team. It doesn't matter how special he is.

Rather play Irfan and Praveen Kumar. They are worth a couple of wickets with the new ball at least!!! And Irfan is a handy all-rounder who, at the very least would outscore Raina!!!!

Posted by 100_rabh on (October 25, 2012, 14:41 GMT)

Is he serious when he says stuff like this. If Sachin gets out for single digits in his next 20 innings, even then his average will remain >50 but he will be the first one to admit that his standards have dropped. Why these openers are given such a long rope is beyond my comprehension. Where do guys like Rahane and A Mukund go from here?

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:31 GMT)

its been three years since gautam made a useful score in test cricket what happened to him is he the same guy who draw the match in new zealand in 2009

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:29 GMT)

Living on past glory like many things in INdia...they might shine here and there but time to give Rahane a shot at the top....

Posted by SnowSnake on (October 25, 2012, 14:18 GMT)

Average is looking back. What about recent average in last 10 tests of which India lost 8? That shows trend that both are pretty much useless batsmen.

Posted by Neeta on (October 25, 2012, 14:14 GMT)

ROXSPORT: Exactly bro, one needs to see that this has been the best opening pair for India over the years. I agree with your selection and batting order as Sehwag himself has been wanting to come down the order in Test Matches. Gambhir is a very gritty guy and you need to have players like him in the team. When the going gets tough, the tough gets going. Napier, Cape Town, T-20 final WC knock, 2011 WC final knock. If these knocks had not been played by GG, then India & Dhoni wouldn't have any WC wins to boast about. That NZ series which we won would have been a draw at 1-1. SA would have won that series 2-1. As for the others, we saw what Dhawan, Rahane, Mukund did on that WI A tour. Mukund didn't perform that well even on NZ tour while Chand got starts and got out. M.Vijay is a flat track bully and we all could see him struggling once he played outside his comfort zone for CSK in CLT20 in SA. SO THE POINT IS THIS IS THE BEST PAIR WE HAVE GOT AT THE MOMENT ALONG WITH RAHANE AS RESERVE.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

Mr G GAMBI i can agree with ur veiw point!!!!!! however, what u have done to come out from your lean patch playing 20-20 !!!!! great man !!! what an effort for test match cricket!!!! keeep going india will be served better. ha forgotten have you heard that india still have domestic cricket and by the way which team u have represented last time.

Posted by Last_ride on (October 25, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

Talk your mate kallis. He will tell you everything about Carting this english attack everywhere.Oh hang On Hashim Amla i forgot about him.He made this Englands Bowling attacks look club like that too in England. Gambhir in India will have no trouble against this attack which couldnt even get wickets in England against South Africa.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 14:03 GMT)

Sehwag is arguably the best opener in the last 20 years.. The most destructive Batsmen I have ever witnessed. I guess when your that good media has to scrutinize you. I call that the LeBron James Effect.

Honestly I dont care who opens anymore I want better structure in Cricket. Players can't preform when there is a tournament every second month.

There has to be a League for Cricket. All team sports have it besides Cricket. Its's like Cricket is on some high horse and wont create a League where all the talen in the world can play togeather. That will minimize injuries, fatigue and most of all fans wont be switching off the tv because there sick of watching constant meaningless cricket!!!

Posted by K.A.K on (October 25, 2012, 13:55 GMT)

Reminds me of Mermaid Man & barnicle Boy from Spongbob Squarepants. You ain't need to blow your own horn buddy. We love you anyways.

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 25, 2012, 13:53 GMT)

Gambhir and Sehwag need to be kicked out of the team. They have played enough on reputation- almost a year and a half. Time now to recall Wasim Jaffer - the best opener in India today. Ajinkya Rahane also deserves a chance at the top. Come on MrPatil do some justice. the previous selection panel had a bunch of jokers who kept ignoring talents like Jaffer who is 33, Kaif who is 32, Badrinath who is 31. All these three deserve to be in Test team come what may. And so does Harbahjan. I don't understand why Bhajji is being ignored again and again. Ashwin is a Ranji level offie with a carrom ball. He stands sorted out by international batsmen. He needs to go. Raina is another one who needs to be let go. No more Tests for him. Yuvraj deserves to regain his fitness and he shouldn't play longer version for at least a year. Duleep trophy is one thing and an international Test match against top ICC Test team is another.Ishant Sharma and Umesh Yadav deseve another comeback too. Ishant is special

Posted by sukku88 on (October 25, 2012, 13:50 GMT)

Come on Gauti..!! Just Don't tell stories like a loser.. Indian team is deprived of good opening stand from a long long time, because of you guys and stubborn MSD who no longer do any experiments with lineup.. If you are so sure, then show us in the field, At least in our flat tracks... We no longer have the services of 'dependable' Dravid & Laxman to depend upon when u guys play rash shot and get out... All the best anyway..

Posted by SAperspective on (October 25, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

Sachin there is no doubts unles you r deranged. I must say that Gambir and Sehwag are talented but their physical capabilities are a problem. sehwag is not a fighter eg. in south africa were the wickets r hot he behaves like a timid dove. His dive the other nite in durban exposed how an Indian cricketer can hide behind soft wickets in India and get exposed in front of a south african crowd when fielding.

Gambhir is talented on Indian tracks, overseas he is all at sea. As a captain of Kolkata knight Riders he cannot insist on a physical effort when he is a small fielder who makes no impact when fielding.

The problem not there physical attributes but that they do not make any effort in bringing up their fitness levels or showing courage.

compare them to the Japanese womans soccer team. who are small in stature but have not given an inch in effort and courage.

Posted by AzAb12754 on (October 25, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

Not an Indian but this is the perfect time to play Unmukht Chand give him a chance he's very exciting player to watch at least 1 test match.

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 25, 2012, 13:42 GMT)

India needs an academy dedicated to TEST cricket players. A lot of observations by overseas analysts have said that Indian players only favour the shorter format as opposed to TEST. Speacialist test batsman should be remunerated more than the ODI/T20 players.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 13:42 GMT)

So another one wants to stay in the team for his past laurels, if at all their are any? To all those upto No good Seniors - Why Not? Indian National Team is your Mom-Pop shop!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

gauti and viru always proud of indian team.............. both are u best

Posted by TRAM on (October 25, 2012, 13:40 GMT)

If "average" is the criteria, Gavaskar should come back and play for India. And of course Bradman should be in the 11 for Australia. Stop talking about average and look at the scores in the last 2 years. More importantly look at the way you got out. Even kids now know what to bowl to Gautum - on or just outside off stump, away going / incoming deliveries. For Sehwag, no width, on the off stump, length ball again alternate between away going and straighter/incoming ones. Go figure what to do about it.

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 25, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

INDIA's continous failures overseas is because of LACK OF GOOD OPENERS. Two gutsy players needed at the TOP. Gone are the days when we had openers averaging 70 - before the 1st wicket falls. We need two tall, strong , gutsy players at the top of the order.The other area of concern is the pace bowlers who are 130 and below. It seems the opposition loves this GENTLE speed. Umesh and Aaron are welcome relief to our team together with Ishant.

Posted by ProdigyA on (October 25, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

Hey GG, I love you man, you have played many great innings, most importantly your 97 in the WC final. Personall, i think you will make a better captain than MS in tests. But i love Team India more than you, so pls stop giving excuses like MS. If you cannot perform then you can contribute to Indian cricket by giving a chance to somebody worthy enough and there are plenty of them. Stop living in past glory, perform or perish simple as that, this is not a govt job.

Posted by PrinceLokesh on (October 25, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

Dear Mr.sachbol

Scoring 100 in every match is not possible,and anything less than 100 can not be considered as flop.scoring consistently since 20year plus is not an easy thing..sachin never be liability to team,because he scored consistently in tests during 2010-11 we got no.1 position.

And he will get big scores again,may be a small gap.may be that LEGEND knows when to go out.

After sachin's debut,there r tons of people who debuted and made no mark.he is a god and THE TRUTH EVERY BODY KNOWS across india.

Pls do not talk like this.

Posted by anton111 on (October 25, 2012, 13:24 GMT)

What has Wasim Jaffer done wrong? The guy has a 50 plus average in first class cricket. If Tendulkar is not too old then Jaffer is not too old either. Come on Indian selectors, Jaffer can make a better contribution than Gambhir and Sehwag combined

Posted by Nampally on (October 25, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

Gambhir should focus more on performing on the field than indulge in idle talk. India has failed miserably in England & Australia mainly because of terrible let down by Gambhir & Sehwag.Gambhir has been attrocious poking consistently at balls outside the off stump & consistently getting caught in the slip cordon. Sehwag has been reckless & irresponsible - never learning to keep his head down & play a big innings. India definitely needs a new opening pair. S.Dhawan, Vijay & Murali have been knocking at the door putting up so many centuries between them - consistently. However I feel the new selectors will not be bold to drop them in the first 2 tests against England. So Mr. Gambhir put your money where your mouth is & start scoring.India has plenty of openers challenging for the opening spots. I would like to see the Selectors dropping either Gambhir lower down & using either Dhawan/Vijay/Mukund at the other spot. This way they will make a organised change. If both G & S fail, drop them

Posted by SudharsanVM on (October 25, 2012, 13:19 GMT)

GG u will have tough time against Finn and swann

Posted by electric_loco_WAP4 on (October 25, 2012, 13:18 GMT)

Gambhir is right about their avg as openers being pretty good and up there when compared to other teams.That is only part of the story-the reality being that they have been spoilt piling on the runs on placid flat home pitches for a couple of years and in the instance when they had to play abroad ,got exposed badly.If he is happy citing runs scored at home ,well it's up to him. But he can't argue against getting labelled a subcontinent only batsman and so hit partner.Anyways he's got the chance to back the talk with runs in the coming home series.Question is ...will they? and how well...?

Posted by DINESHCC on (October 25, 2012, 13:15 GMT)

It is time for infusing some young blood in Indian Cricket. Try with U.Chand, A.Rahane, S.Dhawan, V.Kohli, C.Pujara, Yuvraj, D.Karthik / R.Uthappa, Shami Ahmed, U.Yadav, Harmeet Singh and R.Ashwin. Even if this team lose to England and Oz, they will make a mark in the 2013 SA Series.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

This is all rubbish..... Gambhir has shown his grit to atleast stand at the crease.... But sehwag has shown his irresponsibility. u have to just keep 3 or 4 slips and pack off side and bowl gentle outswingers...... Considering the overseas tour of SA in 2013 we should start partenring gambhir with rahane or even unmukt chand.... Youngsters should come in

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

Gambhir is out of form. He is just trying to live by the edge of Past History and Records. Every Day is a new day and records are meant to be broken. Lets give someone else a chance. Who knows he might count that.

I agree scoring a century is not that much imp. but thing is Mr. Gambhir You havn't scored good runs though. Century for you is far away. first of all you need to score runs. atlst cross 40 runs. but you guyz just couldn't handle pressure now days.

Posted by NYer on (October 25, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

Gauti, Let the bat do the talking. I hope out of form batsmen like Veeru, Gauti and Sachin actively participate in this year's Ranji trophy and gain some form back.

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (October 25, 2012, 13:10 GMT)

gambhir is ok as an opener for now , but sehwag should be kicked out as soon as possible.. the guy is a walking wicket on any pitch with a hint of assistance to pace bowlers ,and even more frustrating is his attitude to the game , i mean how long should we keep saying 'that's the way he plays'..

Posted by AjaySridharan on (October 25, 2012, 13:09 GMT)

This is typical LOSER TALK. Can Cricinfo please post an article analyzing their stats? - their runs and averages by opponent and in which country it was scored in, and when. If the last 2 years are no indication, what is?! Would Gambhir invest his money in a stock that has been on the downhill in the trailing 24 month period...just because it was once a high flying stock?

Posted by J_kamal on (October 25, 2012, 13:06 GMT)

you guys cant rely on your past performances ..show some zeal man ..hunger to success is lost ..find it ..or its too late for you n viru

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 13:05 GMT)

i will write what harsha bhogle has tweeted ,what do u expect gambhir to come and say i am not good enough ,i should be dropped ,before commenting plz see what question the media asked him . Hmm yes their performances have been bad over the last 2 years ,yet no youngster has done enough to stake claim that they are better than these two ,yes maybe rahane but no one else ,ohh now plz dont say dhawan ,i saw how good he is in the 'A' tour to WI

Posted by Htc-Android on (October 25, 2012, 13:03 GMT)

ARROGANT SPEECH FROM AN ORDINARY BATSMAN.

Posted by Yevghenny on (October 25, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

@jonesey2 - why didn't australia think of that last ashes series?? Instead they persisted with Hughes and Watson!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

Completely agree with SachbolBhai.. this has been the problem with the Indian team, no rotation policy, not enough training for the new players and still struggling youngsters.. This is not a team that Dhoni won the T20 worldcup with..

Posted by Stateside_Steve on (October 25, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

Gautam I am huge fan of yours, and I still remember your valiant knock in the WC final unlike others. So you do deserve additional time since you have proved yourself when it mattered the most. If I were you I would refrain from making comments like this in public. This is a "what you have done to me lately" society, a perform of perish arena. Keep your focus on the field and leave all the noise by the wayside. Good luck to you come good in the England series .

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 12:48 GMT)

I am a big fan of test matches. To me winning a test match against a good side is equal to winning 20 ipl matches. People started to loosing intrest in IPL matches because of it's long schedule...India's failures in tests can easily be attributed to IPL.

coming to our openers, I still believe they are main reason for India's Success when we moved to No 1 in tests.Whenever we get good opening stand we won mant matches. but when we dont, it's nightmare and we even struggled to cross 300 run mark.. In recent times our openers are failing again and again and we lost 8 tests in succession....They should keep egos aside and should play for teams sake...

Posted by Cricketfan101 on (October 25, 2012, 12:23 GMT)

sehwags problem is he tries to hit to many boundary balls espicially to the spinners and not enough blocking or leaving the ball if look at sehwag stike rates they have gone in test cricket over the years and gambhir problem is down to too much one day cricket and playing one shots like running the ball down to third man because that would be a safe one day cricket beacuase there are max 2 slips but test cricket you can up to 4 or more silps so he needs to play proper shots not one day shots

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (October 25, 2012, 12:18 GMT)

Gambhir's argument is flawed by the fact that stats do not take into consideration consistency. What player would you prefer in your team: (1) Batsman with consecutive scores of 53, 53, 53, 53, 53; or (2) batsman with a run of scores 5, 210, 30, 0, 20? Before everyone gets the calculators out, I can assure you the average for both is 53... Now I have only used a mere 5 games here; think about the variation from many more games!

Posted by usernames on (October 25, 2012, 12:17 GMT)

Ha, what arrogance!

The batsman is out of form if he keeps prodding outside the off stump every other bowl. He needs to go back, play for Delhi and then make a case for the national side. Right now, there are more than enough players on the fringes good enough to replace him, who are in form too.

Posted by spinkingKK on (October 25, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

People have this tendency to take two people when they want to bring one down. Gambhir has been good and as he said, he has been scoring 90's and 80's. Even in Autralia, he put a lot of effort and batted better as the tour progressed deep. Sehwag, definitley, seems to have lost the motivation and committment. I don't know what went wrong. But, he seems to be out of everything. Please don't ask Gambhir to come along if you want to bring Sehwag down.

Posted by krishroxx on (October 25, 2012, 12:05 GMT)

whats with that prodding outside off,dude???

how many times will you get out in the same fashion???? enough is enough.. i wonder what mr. fletcher is doing??? having nice indian food and patting his belly..

indian cricket has gone down remarkably after gary left.. damn you duncan!!

Posted by SpeedCricketThrills on (October 25, 2012, 11:58 GMT)

Averages (53 in this case) are misleading. 'Trend' is 'King' and 'Recent Trends' is the 'SuperKing'

Posted by nilesh91 on (October 25, 2012, 11:57 GMT)

@ Shareef Sehuribas: Are you sure people are not talking about SRT ? Wake up, Sachin is always in news whether he is playing good cricket or not. Not sure what Indian News Channel and critics will do after his retirement.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 11:54 GMT)

see friends they are all time best opening pair for India.so friends plz be careful about ur comments.don't say that a school child can take them .u say they are not good but there is no opening pair in the world as theirs.see no one can play consistently every time. is dhoni getting as much runs as sehwag who averages 50.64 and gambhir who averages 44.35 while dhoni averages around 38-39.friends plz dont disrespect this pair

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (October 25, 2012, 11:43 GMT)

LOL. Both Gambhir and Virender "King Pair - it doesn't count because it's not in India" Sehwag are both well past sell by date. Like most of rest of India team. They were thrashed in England and thrashed again in Australia. Notice India doing plenty of talking. Talking, talking, talking - this is all they seem to be good for. LOL @jonesy2 on (October 25 2012, 10:35 AM GMT) - how many opening stands of 100 did Australia put on when England were last in Australia? We are all dying to know.....

Posted by VJGS on (October 25, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

He, like the rest of the Indian team, is going through a rough patch ever since WC2011 ended. But claiming he is the best is getting too cocky. I think the IPL victory has inflated his ego to an unprecedented level. He is the reason why Rahane, Manoj Tiwari are warming the bench and when they are finally given a chance, they are out of practice and become a flop-show and are sidelined forever - same thing happened to Uthappa

Posted by kamal1212 on (October 25, 2012, 11:22 GMT)

GG - Please let us know your avg while England and Australia tour also... and when India won or atleast saved Test match because of your batting?

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 11:20 GMT)

its old news mate do you have some thing new to tell? since world cup your form is poor and same story with your opening partner. do some work on your self mate because since IPL you have best form in words and off the field only not on field.

Posted by zoot on (October 25, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

Gambhir averages under 35 over the last twenty-five tests spanning nearly three years. He is very lucky to be in the side.

Posted by SOBIA11 on (October 25, 2012, 11:16 GMT)

India should try new openers in the future series, as a build up to champions trophy i think.

Posted by nilesh91 on (October 25, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

Indian supporters please back our team in this difficult time. Look at England supporters, even after 0-3 at UAE, a difficult draw against SL and loosing no 1 spot at home and not managing to win even any one out of the format against SA, loosing 3 out 5 matches in WCT20 while defending their title, "we hate but we need you KP" most importantly " Team has highest priority than player" saga. Please take some positive characteristics from these fabulous England supporters. I mean it.

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (October 25, 2012, 11:09 GMT)

@everyone a lot of of discussion around GG and sehwag on the verge of being dropped. 8-0 away and nothing of significance against last 2 home series nz and wi so that 4 series without scoring. don't understand what there is to talk about? these guys have earned enough from cntral contracts and ipl and its time to let them go back to domestic cricket if they want to. forget the results and invest in the future now. it's no good dropping rohit and keeping these two and the others. even they score big in this series they have not done enough to justify inclusion in the squad.

Posted by ROXSPORT on (October 25, 2012, 11:08 GMT)

To all those Gambhir bashers, let me remind you about Napier, New Zealand. How have you forgotten that ??? Or do you have selective amnesia ??? Fact of the matter is that Gambhir is the best opener available to India at the moment. I would agree to a certain extent on Sehwag. Over time, his reflexes have slowed down & he is no longer the force that he was. So, what is the solution??? Pick Ajinkya Rahane to open with Gambhir, Pujara, SRT, Kohli in the middle order, Sehwag at 6, folowed by Dhoni, Ashwin, two medium pacers (I would rather go with Umesh Yadav as the lone quick to partner Zaheer), Pragyan Ojha & 12th man to be Murali Vijay (only for his fielding, mind you).

Posted by arvind.Kejriwal.AAP_A_Better_INDIA_ on (October 25, 2012, 11:05 GMT)

Well I do remember once even Sehwag had said that he is the best opener India have. It can be seen from two angles - 1) Sehwag is beating his own chest (So lets bash him !) 2) What he said at that time was right too. Same in this case. We all might bash Gauti for his self-appraisal but what he is saying is true too.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 11:05 GMT)

ya they are the best, on flat tracks!!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 11:02 GMT)

Also Mandeep Singh and Unmukt Chand should have been given a chance in the India A game, to compete for a place in the squad in place of Gambhir. They have done fell against genuine pace, often in testing conditions and have shown a lot of maturity for their age. Yes, it might be a gamble but it will be a calculated risk, and let us face it, Gambhir is a walking wicket anyway.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 10:57 GMT)

Even a couple of school children can get Gambhir out. Gambhir has shown a lot of mental weakness, especially in the last 18 months - can't see any of the grit that made him such a successful opener. Gambhir has to go.

Sehwag,even more than his form, is his attitude. Serious lack of commitment - it is so apparent in his fielding. This series is going to be a hard fought one, and India rests it's hopes on Kohli, Pujara, Ashwin, Yadav / Ishant and hopefully one of the new boys stand up and make themselves count!

Posted by ssshNevo on (October 25, 2012, 10:56 GMT)

WAKE UP GHAMBIR , ITS OVER MATE YOUR DONE

Posted by sandy_bangalore on (October 25, 2012, 10:55 GMT)

The stereotypical Indian cricketer: Tons of runs on flat and slow pitches, clueless abroad(except for some runs in flatbeds in napier and hobart), arrogant attitude and living on past records and some IPL b-brade bowler bashing! Its only Virat Kohli who walks the talk. Shuddder to think what would happen to India when they tour SA next year!

Posted by NishuB on (October 25, 2012, 10:47 GMT)

Excuses..excuses...excuses...!! Veeru is finished... Gauti is not far behind... I have no patience or time for either unless they PERFORM !!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 10:47 GMT)

gambhir must be dropped from the test team...he scores his last test 100 in jan,2010...his avg is below 25...winning an ipl cant make him a good player..we need young bloods lyk rahane now...

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 10:43 GMT)

Yes I agree both are in form players but sehwag should come down the order as he likes and requested many times that he would like to come at no 6 or 4 instead of opening. So gambhir need to open with badrinath so then indias opener problems may get resolved and middle order gets strengthened and we will have enough depth in batting down the order.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 10:38 GMT)

truth is that Indian openers were struggling in ENG & AUS, but i still believe we dont have better openers right now for those conditions & even in Indian condition sehwag can hit a 300 at any time at any form. As far as Rahane is concerned, he should b allowed to play in middle order at 5 or 6 around kohli in the current series. pls dont bring in yuvi or raina at no. 6..... give this place to poor rahane who is out for no reason....

Posted by jonesy2 on (October 25, 2012, 10:35 GMT)

against englands bowling they could put a couple of local school children as the openers and they would probably still get a 100 run opening stand

Posted by ComeIndiaNo1 on (October 25, 2012, 10:34 GMT)

Dont make us laugh.. joker..

Posted by SachbolBhai on (October 25, 2012, 10:19 GMT)

Biggest problem with our Players and selectors is that once someone Performs for 5-6 years then he becomes Permanent Liability to This Country. Unfortunately Today Sachin is the Biggest Liability to the Team .Rather than helping the Team Cause he is also denying opportunity to some other young players.He should think what would happened to his career if some of the seniors in 1988 should have stuck with the team like he is doing it now.(Yes there were Players whom Board would not have sacked if they have not left themselves)

He says He has cricket in him.But where is the Performance??

You can not Claim for a Master's degree Because you Scored good in 10th, 12th and Graduation Level.May be you were very good at That time.I was A gold medalist in 1979. But Not Now.

You Have to always Score Consistently To Demand a Place In The TEAM and Country should come first AND not Someone's exaggerated Self assessment.

Same applies to all ALL Stuck Up seniors.

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Posted by nilesh91 on (October 25, 2012, 10:15 GMT)

@rahulcricket007 and others: I think Gambhir's claim in media is clear indication that they are worried about their place in playing 11. same goes for SRT with he giving hint about his retirement plan. Actually all Indian fan should be happy that 3 out of 4 under-performing seniors(SRT,RD,VVS,Bajji) are replaced with 3 young and most importantly talented players (kohli,Pujara,Aswin). Give 1 test to Sehwag n Gambhir and bring Rahane in next match replacing one of them not scoring in first test. also give 6th number spot to more deserving player than Raina.

Posted by keecha on (October 25, 2012, 10:04 GMT)

You really think you are the best opening pair? Think about Haynes- Greenidge, Hayden - Langer.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 9:57 GMT)

Does he mean 53 between both of them? or 53 each?

Posted by itsthewayuplay on (October 25, 2012, 9:52 GMT)

if you'd averaged 53 in eng and aus you may have something to say. in any case averages in cricket can be misleading - it's all about the context in which runs are made. you may have made an 85 but did india win or even draw the test. what was your average in eng and aus. 'Gambhir and Sehwag are expected to be India's openers...' - on what basis? how many chances are these guys going to get? a lot of talk about spin etc but neither of these openers has a clue against the short pitched stuff. if eng has done the homework i'd expect finn to bounce out these two.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 9:48 GMT)

He is the No.1 poker outside off stump in the world cricket. He should be called INSIDE EDGE/OUTSIDE EDGE GAMBHIR. On how many occasions this bragging cricketer been caught at SLIPS or PLAYED ONTO THE STUMPS. Unbelievable. This guy doesn't have any clue to tackle Pace & Swing in overseas conditions. All of a sudden he scores bucket of runs on dead Indian pitches and people tend to forget everything. The way he speaks as if he is the most technically correct batsman ever. No one can change Indian Cricket's fate.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 9:37 GMT)

GG is not sensible... MSD should bravely drop GG... stil GG always talking abt statistics, he s better to be in score board section of playground.. i hate england team... but still england paceman are pure quality..they ll knock out GG

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 9:36 GMT)

GG always talks non-sense and rude thinking he is indispensable. Instead of revealing his poor batting failures outside sub-continent in the last 2 years, he is trying to hide behind averages scored on batsmen friendly conditions that too several seasons back. You and ST should go immediately based on last two years form. Shewag probably the last series. GG procalimed himself to captain test side after winning IPL - what a joke :-) Bring in U Chand - if anyone watched him in AUS W19 finals fully not highlights, there won't be any Qs what so ever how he played swing & pace on bouncy wicket so beautifully. Very impressed with that lad - Don't bring Vijay or Mukund though Vijay may get favor on his double on batting friendly conditions in local matches (fyi, I am from Chennai)

Posted by cric_freakNo2 on (October 25, 2012, 9:29 GMT)

i dont think INDIA can never ever get back to TOP of the rankings in test, unless they take some bold desicions. 1.Never guarentee a place to any player irrespective of who he is. 2.Try to maintain team unity and management holds full responsibility. 3.Players consistently performing in Ranji should be taken to National team as soon as possible, otherwise they may loose the hope and confidence of getting into the team.. 4.any player should not be allowed to talk to media other than captain, unless otherwise required. 5.Get some Pace n Bouncy tracks in india so that players can practice on them and bowlers can gain confidence.

Posted by AMAZINGFAN on (October 25, 2012, 9:29 GMT)

GAMBHIR IS ARROGANT.......DON'T KNOW WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME HE GOT 50 IN TEST MATCH...HE IS KEEP GETTING OUT IN THE SAME MANNER.....WE NEED NEW OPENERS....

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 9:27 GMT)

BOTH GAMBHIR'S AND SEHWAG'S PERFOMANCE IN TEST CRICKET HAS NOT BEEN CONSISTENT. BUT THEY HAVE DONE WELL IN ODI CRICKET. SEHWAG'S FORM IN BOTH THE FORMATS OF THA GAME HASN'T BEEN THAT GOOD WHEREAS GAMBHIR'S PERFOMANCE IN ODI CRICKET HAS BEEN BETTER THAN SEHWAG IN ODI CRICKET. IN TESTS I THINK BOTH THESE PLAYERS MUST GET A CHANCE SO THAT THEY CAN PROVE THEMSELVES AND REGAIN SOME GOOD FORM AS GOOD OPENING PAIR. BUT FOR THAT THE COACH MUST SHOW SOME TRUST ON BOTH THESE PLAYERS AND MUST MAKE THEM WORK HARD FOR THE NEXT TOUR OF SOUTH AFRICA IN 2013.

Posted by S.Seshachalam on (October 25, 2012, 9:24 GMT)

Real rubbish talks. High time to discourage stardom in cricket!! Only performance should talk. All passengers like Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar and Zaheer Khan deserve immediate axe! Greetings to new chairman of selection committee. Mr Patil hope you are seriously observing and will take the right step for Indian cricket to survive....

Posted by menon.vinod8 on (October 25, 2012, 9:16 GMT)

Everybody can play in the subcontinent. Look at the record of our opening pair outside the subcontinent (for the past 2 years) Innings - 14 Runs - 320 Average - 22.86 with just one century stand and everything else below 30. 14, 26, 24, 4, 18, 0, 17, 22, 3, 8, 27, 19, 137, 1 First of all, prove outside the subcontinent. We don't need your stats in the subcontinent.

Posted by HK_Sachin on (October 25, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

Gautam should stop apologizing, making comments, making remarks and focus on BATTING.

Anger doesnt get you far.

Posted by gopi.sachein on (October 25, 2012, 9:12 GMT)

'We still average 53 as an opening pair' - Gambhir... Yes. I agree... but this doesnt help you now Mr. Gauti... Both should be dropped as yuvi dropped in ODI series before the 2011 WC.. and let them come back with gud form as Yuvi came back in WC.... Rahane and Pujara should be given chance.. Rahane and Virat should open the bat followed by Pujara, Sachin, Yuvraj, Raina, Dhoni, Ashwin, Zaheer, Harbhajan, Ishant.. The man who couldn't get the quick single is gauti.. OMG.. i cannot see his running between the wickets. let them take a break and come back with gud form.. All the best gauti!!!

Posted by cric_freakNo2 on (October 25, 2012, 9:07 GMT)

same old GG. your partnership avg is certainly 53,but dont forget it would be around 70 in home conditions & less than 20 outside subcontinent. Also that 53 avg has consistently dropped from 70(overall) and it will not take more than this england series to fall below 30(i bet). Trying to get a spot in the team just because of past glory when u clearly know that there are a lot of better guys out there who deserve a chance is such a selfish,self-centered act.if u r such confident about u being the best opening pair still around,show it in ranji,open for delhi(shikar & rahane will take care of india), score tonnes of runs and shut our mouthes. But i bet u wont be able to score there too .

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 9:00 GMT)

Just keep talking gambir...

Posted by bluebloodripper on (October 25, 2012, 8:14 GMT)

i think is high time players who arent consistent get the boot. Current form is what's most important and India winning every match. Currently Sehwag and Sachin don't look like they'll make runs. Everyone wants to hang around in the team based on records. We can't drop superstars from the team so we rather lose the match. Bhajji, Sehwag, Gambhir, Rohit need a kick up thier back side. I think a stint with the local teams will help. As for Sachin he needs to be serious and play all cricket(ODI and Test) India decide to play or he should retire. This 1/2 hearted attempt of extending his career is messing up the team's batting order. Missing international tours and then showing up to play the IPL and Champions league is complete crap. Zaheer Khan can't go on forever so lets get Umesh, Varon, Isahant and a few more back in the test squad and give them a run. Its also high time we start looking beyond chawla,mishra,ojha and co. for new spinners..

Posted by sosaman on (October 25, 2012, 8:10 GMT)

these players can let their bats do the talking... will be much better for indian cricket. rahane has been knocking the door for a long time now..... he deserves a chance if these 2 fail in this series. also, watch out for shikhar dhawan as well.... he has been scoring big this season

Posted by robheinen on (October 25, 2012, 8:05 GMT)

Results from the past are no guarantee for the future.

Posted by pranay_bangalore on (October 25, 2012, 8:03 GMT)

When Dhawan,Vijay,Mukund,Rahane and co are making runs for fun , and you dont replace a struggling pair for years, then for sure indian cricket is going to dogs.

Not sure about sehwag, but if GG gets dropped now, he will never make it to indian test side again. With huge home season, the selected chaps are sure to make a mark and will keep Gambhir away for long.The main problem with pseudo seniors like GG,Viru and Bhajji is that they think they are irreplaceable and can afford to be lazy in all aspects of cricket. Bene to couple of test matches in India and i can safely say GG is the most aloof guy on field. he rarely talks to fellow players, rarely comes to appreciate the bowler or fielders who just took a wicket. Such a self-centered guy. Thanks god , he will never captain india. The longer Sehwag,GG and Bhajji are away from the team, the better will be india's chances of winning.

Posted by harrdstone on (October 25, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

People need not worry.With long stretch of home series coming,they will pile up more runs on dead wickets and able to brag about more about their averages.But, Sir,who will score abroad?in spite of your "phenomenal "average as openers(even that is mostly due to home series)India lost the number ONE spot in test rankings.So better let your bat talk,preferably on foreign grounds as well.look what happened to Indian teams in CLT20 in SA.In India they would have made mince meat of the oppositions.

Posted by SoverBerry2 on (October 25, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

The guy can't play swinging deliveries...PLEASE DONT EVER PLAY THAT SHOT TO THIRDMAN...

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 7:57 GMT)

Gambhir and Sehwag to me are still a solid combination in all formats... Yes form has been a concern but I still believe they have a lot of good cricket left in them.. Lookin statistically.. they are 5th in the test ranking for most runs by an opening pair... Everyone goes thru lean patches and purple patches... I think if you look at recent performances of our batsmen(in all formats)....apart from Virat Kohli.. there hasnt been any player whose been consistent enough and found good form.. they have all just been playing their bit along with kohli.. and manage to put up or chase a score.

But yes.. pressure should be on Gambhir n Sehwag.. they should know and keep in mind that there are guys like Rahane , Mukund are raring to go. And I think this pressure will should get the best out of them.

Good luck!

Posted by guppys_classmate on (October 25, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

Lol! If 53 is a decent opening partnership in tests, even Ashwin can score it! What an argument from Gambhir!!!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 7:54 GMT)

'Smugness' is the word. A bit of introspection would/should help.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 7:50 GMT)

Simon Douall said in one of his commentariies that in any other country Gambhir would have been dropped..Ian Chappel agreed..Gambhir is hiding behind his Paki KKR coach and firing bullets ..His over ambition for captaincy caused the seniors vs Juniors rift in the team.Viru took the blkame,that is all..Drop Gambhir and India will play like a team again.Also drop SRT and ZK and go for a new look team..SA gave captaincy to Smith at age 23..Do our mamas(selectors) have the guts to giive it to Virat????????????

Posted by Nightwing32 on (October 25, 2012, 7:48 GMT)

I don't think Gambhir is the issue here. I think Sehwag is, Sehwag has been riding for some time. He is a great player and if he does fire...anyway I think India needs a new opener with Gambhir and just move Sehwag down the middle order. Considering Laxman and Dravid are gone, you can slot in Manoj and have a Pujara as well.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 25, 2012, 7:45 GMT)

it seems like he is satisfied with his performance in last 5 years & he has lost his hunger to make runs . selectors should select some new players who had passion & hunger to perform .

Posted by uvasStraightDrive on (October 25, 2012, 7:38 GMT)

Its time for Indian selection panel BCCI to make some hard and logical choices. Dropping player is not and never a solution but If India is going to be any where near defending there World Cup they should start thinking of the line up right now. Its not about openers, captains or bowlers for that matter. It should be about a TEAM and each player should recognize that they and their egos or not bigger than a TEAM INDIA. If there have differences, sort them and if they don't contribute to team, replace them. Specially when you know that there are pool of players are just waiting to get a chance. As much I want my favorite player(s) to succeed , I can not jeopardize a TEAM who above all not me everyone wants to succeed. Also whats up with this extended stay on Rohit , If selection panel have given so many chances to Sanjay india would have been known to have two wall along with Dravid.

Posted by analyseabhishek on (October 25, 2012, 7:34 GMT)

It is actually Gautam Gambhir who is under greater scrutiny. Virender Sehwag frequently uses the ruse that he plays the way he plays. But what about Gambhir? He is expected to lend solidity but his dismissals outside the offstump are getting increasingly predictable.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 7:30 GMT)

Gambhir oh Gambhir!! U r talking abt stats to ppl who are so knowledgeable when it comes to cricket.. U guys average 53 at the top of the order.. Thats fine.. But, what does the same stat say when you split it up?? An average of 30 since 2011, with highest of 89, looks great to you?? Come on.. You are not kidding, are you?!?! Problem with these guys is that, they know that there is no one in queue to take up their place in the team, and also, the selection committee doesnt have the guts to try anyone else.. So, they take their place in the team for granted..

Posted by justanotherfan13 on (October 25, 2012, 7:30 GMT)

nothing has changed over the years. Delhi boys are still arrogant, India keep losing in overseas and the captain (even though he won the world cup) is to blame!you cant expect them to win in both green/bouncy and slow-low pitches.

Posted by jjamie15 on (October 25, 2012, 7:29 GMT)

When players start quoting statistics to justify their selections, you know they're feeling the pressure. I notice Gambhir hasn't mentioned their impact on recent games - a far more salient argument to make when people are questioning your selection. He's making a rod for his own back - he's underperformed for a couple of years after a promising start. He needs to get in the nets instead of in front of the mikes...

Posted by v_singh on (October 25, 2012, 7:28 GMT)

As somebody rightly pointed out below (stormy16) - India have 2 yrs of home fixtures in test cricket and it may happen that Sehwag/Gautam score well on dead pitches.. we may start talking about them in a big way and then when oversea(s) tour come up, the very same pair fail miserably.. Sehwag had a few good innings overseas but is now a liability (poor fielder, consistently poor scores and minimal or no bowling).. Hope the selectors try out new faces on home pitches and also have the guts to ask the master to hang his boots.. His replacement would be tough but would be easier to do on home pitches... India team : Rahane (bat), Gambhir (bat), Pujara (bat), Sachin (bat), Virat (bat, part time bowler when main bowlers need rest), Yuvraj (bat/bowl), Dhoni (Bat), Ashwin/Bhajji (bowl/bat), Ojha (bowl), Yadav (bowl), Ishant (bowl)...

Posted by Rumy1 on (October 25, 2012, 7:28 GMT)

Gambhir's assertion is a baloney and is simply ridiculous. He is just trying to save his and Sehwag's place in the team. Gambhir clearly knows he has been lucky enough despite woeful performances at the top in Tests. Just look at performances of Sehwag and Gambhir in tests over last two years. Sehwag's avg in Tests over last two years is 37 and Gambhir has a poor 30 in Tests in these two years. Sehwag has only one Test century in last two years and Gambhir doesn't even have one Test century in last two years. Do these guys deserve to be in the Test team now by any means. The answer is loud and clear. NO!! People were after the lives of players like Dravid or Laxman for having failed in Australia. Why are they not looking at these two openers. For how long these guys will play on reputation and continue to negatively impact the team's performance and succes. Is anybody listening there?? Wasim Jaffer and Ajinkya Rahane deserve a chance now. And no more Ashwin please. Get back Bhajji, pls

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 7:27 GMT)

This fellow is audacious. Averaging 53 is no big deal. He seems to be resting on his past laurels. It is about the present, the last 12 months or so. Yes, he and Sehwag might have averaged above 100 previously so this 53 is largely helped by their previous good run. But that does not mean they have the liberty to go into hibernation for so long. This series could well be the last for this opening pair unless they score bucketful of runs. Sehwag might find some way to score runs, but with Gambhir I doubt. He has this ugly habit of poking outside off stump, which is slowly but surely pushing him to his own demise. If a cricket fan like me, can pinpoint his weakness, think about the bowlers. Lastly, do not ever think him as a captain material. Instead Kohli would be a better choice.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 7:20 GMT)

I was never a fan of Gambhir but, there's no doubt that Sehwag and Gambhir are the best openers in modern day test cricket. Individually, Cook and Andrew Strauss were strong but, as a pair these two have done wonders for India. I am pretty sure that these boys will enjoy English pace on their own soil.

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 25, 2012, 7:09 GMT)

HE SAID I GOT 85 IN AUS . BUT HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT IT WAS THE ONLY 50+ SCORE HE MADE IN THAT TOUR . HE DIDN'T MENTION THAT EVERY TIME HE WAS GETTING OUT BY POKING OUT SIDE OFFSTUMP DELEVERIES . THIS IS PURE ARROGANCE , I THINK IF FINN PLAYS THEN GAMBHIR WILL BE A BUNNY OF HIM .

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 25, 2012, 6:59 GMT)

LOLZ BUT IN LAST 2 YEARS YOU ARE AVERAGING 30 . IN 2010 YOUR AVERAGE WAS 52 NOW IT HAS DROPPED TO 45 . . AND INDIA 'S BEST OPENING BATSMEN WAS SUNIL GAVASKAR NOT YOU .

Posted by WishW on (October 25, 2012, 6:59 GMT)

Ghambir living in a world of his own...please seperate these facts to home and away...this openign pair is the reason why India can never win away..I dont know how he can even say that after failing miserably for over 2 years now

Posted by srinideva on (October 25, 2012, 6:40 GMT)

Look at the those words...Peoples considering him as a captain to replace Dhoni..What a joke? Look how well he lead the KKR in SA...Mind blowing...

Posted by Mali-T658 on (October 25, 2012, 6:26 GMT)

People get to talk about numbers when they hang up their boots. Not when they still have the chance to meliorate those numbers. Sack these two already and give chances to players like Wasim Jaffer, Ajinkya Rahane. On the same note, no Murali Vijay, please. The guy can't play swinging deliveries for crying out loud.

Posted by munibkhan on (October 25, 2012, 6:14 GMT)

Batting partnership stats for Gautam Gambhir & Virender Sehwag (from Statsguru): Avg Inn Runs High Career : 53 81 4110 233 Over the last 24 months: 44 27 1144 160 Over the last 12 months: 34 16 548 89 For 2012: 24 9 217 77 Cant keep resting on the laurels of the past. An opening partnership of 24 is nothing to brag about.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 6:13 GMT)

i agree.. centuries are not the criteria to judge a player. no one can score a century on every outing.. also sehwag and gauti are not the ones who will give you a stand of 15- or 200 everytime infact no one can do that but they are the ones who mill make 70-80 generally but those 70-80 runs are in such a manner that the opposition bowlers will be in pressure.. they lay a strong foundation for others to build on. not to forget that both sehwag and gambhir have topped the test batsman rankings some time ago so they can bounce on that.. a small patch of inconsistency doesn't mean that they cannot play well.. thay are undoubtedly one of the best opening pairs in world cricket.. and everytime its not a hundred which is required in a match many times an effective 50-60 runs can change the complexion as sehwag showed when last tym england toured india.. target of 387 runs was put by england for india and it was only sehwag's quick innings og 83 which made it possible for india to win..

Posted by Vish213 on (October 25, 2012, 6:12 GMT)

"15 or seven more and people would not be discussing my hundred."-- Its not about scoring exactly 100, its about playing big innings(MORE than a 100). There are currently two big problems with team India- One they are not united as a team. Team is divided into two parts- Dhoni, Raina, Ashwin, Rohit Sharma on one side and Sehwag, gambhir, Zaheer and Bhajji on the other. This explains why Rohit Sharma and Ashwin are always preferred over others(OK Ashwin's selection can be justified,but still). Secondly, Dhoni is not exactly the captain we expected. I thought he was of type who will always believe in giving chances to youngsters, but he is exactly going throught the same phase Ganguly went once- He has became so dependent on Raina, Rohit Sharma and other (now) non-consistent players that he does not feel secure in playing without them,like Ganguly felt without Dravid and others. Comeon, we once again need new team with new strengths to be a champion. Otherwise,keep getting humiliated.

Posted by smithluv on (October 25, 2012, 6:05 GMT)

Gambir, starting 2010, your average is 30.4... Stop yapping and start playing better cricket.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 6:01 GMT)

"We average 53, we're still the best opening pair." What an arrogant thing to say. I mean, really? Best opening pair? What does average have to do with anything? The fact is, they've been failing miserably for a long time now, and need to be replaced. It's frustrating being an Indian cricket fan. None of the members in this team, NONE of them want to accept any responsibility for their mistakes. They lay off the blame on others or play the stats card to get away with any and all of their shortcomings. Pathetic.

So, will Ajinkya Rahane have to wait till one of these two retire from test cricket, to get his chance? What a waste.

Posted by stormy16 on (October 25, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

India have two years of home test cricket with no overseas tests - all numbers problems relating to the lack of runs will be resolved on flat pitches where the opening bowlers have nothing to work with. It's highly unlikely that a visiting spinner will ever cause a problem for India so watch this space and lets revisit in 2 years.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:56 GMT)

Gambhir says he and Sehwag still best India openers

But Currently Gambhir and Sehwag is d vast opening pair in international cricket compare to past indian few years of cricket n compare to other countries current opening pair

Posted by Vkarthik on (October 25, 2012, 5:54 GMT)

Sehwag , Vijay averages 64 . So they are the best?

Posted by Chetan007 on (October 25, 2012, 5:50 GMT)

What's the overseas average in nearly 2 years. That hasn't past 30. These players seems to have taken their place as granted. Better to drop one of them and let him play Ranji and then comeback if impressed. Dropping one of them will send a strong message to other players that their place is also not guaranteed if they will not perform. This is period we need our experienced players to something for their country not for their clubs like what Shewag did. I think he should be dropped from the side for always preferring Clubs before country.No one has forgot what he did last year. He played for the IPL with injury and went for the surgery only after his side didn't make it to the semis. The result we didn't have a full fit team for the England series and we lost.

Posted by Liquefierrrr on (October 25, 2012, 5:46 GMT)

Their last 20 innings as a partnership has had a highest of 89, an average of 30.25 and only 5 x 50 stands. So they are only reaching that 50-run partnership mark 25% of the time. Prior to this they had scored 3551 runs at 59.18, with 29 of their 63 innings being converted into at least 50 run stands, with 10 of those 29 being 100+ stands. So their recent efforts are about half of what it used to be. To pretend that this isn't an issue is incorrect. Gambhir has been on the slide for some time now.

Posted by Liquefierrrr on (October 25, 2012, 5:46 GMT)

Gambhir is focusing on the overall numbers, and as it is his position in question that is understandable. The facts are as follows: In his last 38 innings (with 1 not-out) he has only hit 8 x 50s, scored 4 of his 5 ducks, and hit no 100s. He has scored 1010 runs in 37 dismissals at 27.29 in his last 21 tests. This is poor. Similarly Sehwag has scored 756 runs in his last 14 tests (26 innings, 0 not-outs) at an average of 29.08. In this time he has hit only 6 x 50s, 0 x 100s and 4 x ducks. That's 1766 runs in 63 innings at 28.03 combined. Stuart Broad has 1578 test runs at an average of 26.74 to put things into perspective. Gambhir's average has fallen from 57.50 to 44.35 in this time and Sehwag's from 54.71 to 50.64.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:43 GMT)

they are hoping to get away with long home season. He is not ready to agree that he is keep jagging outside offstump .hope selectors step in if they fail in first test.

Posted by Asokkumar on (October 25, 2012, 5:43 GMT)

Indian pitch definitely Gambhir and Sehwag will score runs but same time we need to consider on giving opportunity to Rahane & Murali Vijay currently in tremendous form. New selection members need to select the Indian team based on players current form and not on there stats. Sehwag informed many time on interview, he wish to bat down the order. Gambhir & M.Vijay can open the innings followed by Pujura, Sachin, Kholi, Sehwag, Dhoni, Ashwin, Pathan/vinaykumar, Ohja and Yadav

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:43 GMT)

It seems they are getting too big for their shoes...if contribution is what counts, then the lower order also does that wout scoring hundreds....so all it takes for 1 is to get a non-zero score and they deserve their spot in the team!!!!The selectors should definitely look for new blood in every department of the Indian team

Posted by sandeepgla on (October 25, 2012, 5:41 GMT)

If past performance is a yardstick of picking the players than sunil gavaskar should open. whats say?

Posted by masoodali150 on (October 25, 2012, 5:41 GMT)

Both are great player, Ups and Down in cricket tenure, has no matter. Give them one more chance or if you have better one choice then come with them.

Posted by TeamAB on (October 25, 2012, 5:41 GMT)

Fallacious argument - what matters is the moving average (with a window of 1 yr) and not the aggregate average. As much as I might be rooting for India, it's such nonsensical arguments that make me wonder how these top players think!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:41 GMT)

Very poor reaction by Gambhir! Never expected such kind of arrogance from a player of his stature! Whatever of their form, is he expecting to occupy the position until he will retire?

Posted by nkoch on (October 25, 2012, 5:38 GMT)

come out of glory of the past Mr. Gambhir and score some runs. Sunil Gavaskar was India's and probably world's best opening batsman. That does not mean he'd play in that position forever. Get some runs or else get booted out. Others are waiting in the wings.

Posted by thedreamer on (October 25, 2012, 5:37 GMT)

Dear Gambhir, please understand that you're doing no good to yourself when you say "...a lot of other people have also not scored tons." What is asked of you in Tests is to play consistently at the top, which you haven't done in the past 2 years, and yet you ask to take a look at the stats. You say 53 is good enough, whereas it is JUST about good. Your pushing and proding against short pitched stuff is an embarassement. Set your game in order and please stop commenting about your teammates' performance. This child-like crib is not captaincy material if you aspire to become one.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:36 GMT)

Break up your average over a timeline Mr. Gambir... You are averaging out your lifetime achievements... Please put it for last 2 years. Be bold enough to accept that you both need to work on something which might be missing and BCCI will be kind enough to give you time or whatever. 8 straight loss in test is not possible if Openers come good.

Posted by akbaassu on (October 25, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

They both will score centuries in the upcoming england tour of india.... don't miss to see that

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

As per this logic Someone averaging above 50 should never be dropped till the average falls to below 40. Such logic based on law of averages is amusing. Performance in last 1 year should matter and thats where Ganbhir and Sehwag has been below average and should consider themseves on the edge of being dropped.

Posted by Riderstorm on (October 25, 2012, 5:32 GMT)

We know that gambhir is in a wrong place as a batsman and he starts talking about averages.

Posted by SASANK360 on (October 25, 2012, 5:31 GMT)

The fact is that they were averaging around 70 just a couple of years ago. Now it dropped to 53.Individually Viru's career avg. was 54(2010) and now 50(2012).Similiarly Gambhir's avg in 2010 was 52,now it is 45. This suggests they have had numerous failures atop the order and that is the reason why India failed abroad.When was the last time they both posted 100-run opening stand.This clearly suggest they need to improve their batting abroad. Also when it comes to sub-continent even Mukund-Rahane pair can score big hundreds and win matches for India. The reason you are sent in to open is that the team and selectors believe you are the best in the lineup to handle new-ball efficiently. But they have been sacrifical lambs in their last away tours(Eng,Aus). So they must stop thinking about averagest and start pursuing quality abroad. Opening is not just about scoring runs or averaging 53, it is about absoring the pressure and soaking the new-ball heat. Anyway Good Luck form an Indian fan.

Posted by landl47 on (October 25, 2012, 5:28 GMT)

Gambhir's claim that he and Sehwag still average 53 an as opening pair is meaningless. When did they make all their runs? Certainly not in the last couple of years. Hobbs and Sutcliffe averaged 87 as an opening pair, but they haven't done much recently. It's been 30 innings since Sehwag scored a century and 40 innings since Gambhir reached the 100 mark. If neither opener is able to play a significant innings in a test match, then the openers aren't doing their job. A few 50 partnerships doesn't hack it, as India's test results recently have shown.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:27 GMT)

yup!!!they r the best opening pair for india,,i agree with gautham

Posted by satish619chandar on (October 25, 2012, 5:25 GMT)

Come on Gauti. You are known for calling a spade a spade. You and Viru are woefully out of form and are depending much on dropped catches to score some runs. And you defend yourselves with a average? What is the average in last couple of years - when the team is sliding? As openers, you guys are the ones who kick start the slide. 93 in SA - One in 6 innings, 85 odd in Australia - One in 8 innings and a forgettable England series with nothing to show up, not much in home series against NZ/WI too. Worst of a lot is, the entire faliure happened with all the seniors available. Be realistic and show your toughness on the field rather than in press conference!

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

It is ridiculous of Gambhir to say that. As fans, we do not expect you to win every game that you play let alone score a century. 93 in SA is a thing of the past. How long will you keep saying that? On 85-odd in Australia, that was in just one innings. what about the rest of 7 innings? Acknowledge that you have not been playing as well as you would have liked. It is so sickening to hear players like him still believe that they are the best in the business. I look at the stats, it says 0-8 to England and Australia. One of the reasons, you and Viru have not laid a strong foundation. Sandeep Patil should make hard decisions like dropping SRT, Gambhir, Sehwag, Dhoni and other co-passengers. I would not mind losing again to England and Australia with youngsters in the side rather than with non-performing seniors.

Posted by krishroxx on (October 25, 2012, 5:23 GMT)

then that gives you the license to bring india to 53-2.. right???? make your 53 run partnership and disappear both of you..take rest in the air conditioned dressing room..

i think one of the guys need to be dropped and poor rahane should be tested.. who also has a better technique as compared to these fellas..

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:18 GMT)

Are they really averaging 53 in last two years????? can anyone please tell the stats for this opening pair contribution in the last two year, because Gambhir only told that ".....if people talk about not contributing, I will suggest them to look at the stats."

Posted by Sunman81 on (October 25, 2012, 5:17 GMT)

Seems like Gambhir knows the truth but unable accept it... good Stats are evolved out of performance...but everyone knows we can't survive purely on stats... ppl blame Gambhir for his poor technique exhibited against pace bowlers... he would do well to work on improving it rather than suggesting ppl to look through the stats...

Posted by mcsdl on (October 25, 2012, 5:13 GMT)

These 2 been rubish for nearly 2 years now. Its time to make a change

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:12 GMT)

I strongly accept Gauti's comments. Viru is the only another opener except Gavaskar having 50 plus average in test. These two are the best opening combination India ever produced. They didn't play well in England and Australia apart from that still they are deserved to play as a openers. SRT failed so many times in abroad even he was completely out played against second fiddle kiwis during the last tour. People are not talking about that.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:10 GMT)

Gambhir and Sehwag are the best opening pairs India has even seen. They are instrumental in pushing India to No 1 in Tests. Now if we stop obsession with hundreds and start rebuilding the team around these two experienced players, we can regain number 1 again.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:07 GMT)

Gauti - Viru partnership avearage 53 runs per inning ... So what the fuss all about??!

Posted by yohandf1984 on (October 25, 2012, 5:01 GMT)

Blowing their own trumpet . Cant expect anything better from MINNOW GAMBHIR .

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 5:00 GMT)

We dont need any history/stats of Gambhir-Sehwag opening partnership. Currently both of them are not in good form. Especially Gambhir lacks techniques/foot work.......It's a superb opportunity for BCCI to try youngsters for opening pair rather relying upon the history !!!!!

Posted by Suresh_Joseph on (October 25, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

Ah, another number-driven argument in favour of a long lease of life in Indian cricket... 53 counts for squat when you look at another very pertinent set of numbers... like 8-0. Time to look towards the future... which I doubt the selectors will do.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 4:53 GMT)

Gambhir taking refuge in statistics to cover up for non-performance, why doesn't he accepts that their performance as a pair has not been upto the mark, that will be a positive step towards improvement, simply denying the truth is not going to help. No centuries from either of them in the last 2 years & no century stand, can't be very good M/s Gambhir & Sehwag, Just because you guys were very good, you are still there, else would have got the boot much earlier.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 4:51 GMT)

Gambhir confuses consistency with statistics. Oh well!

Posted by vatsap on (October 25, 2012, 4:49 GMT)

Yeah sure , why not. Get back Don Bradman he averaged 99.94. Gambhir's really got attitude after going thro flop tours in England, Australia.

Posted by ssshNevo on (October 25, 2012, 4:49 GMT)

are you serious? the time has come for both to be shipped off back to club cricket, its time for India to blood young and talented batsmen , Unmuky chand and rahane should be given the job now. the batting line up should be built around Kohli and pujara. aaron and yadav should be the spearheads and that young 17 yr old bishan bedi look alike H. singh should be in the team. It's time for india to wake up and realise what a joke they are when travelling overseas. The local india media and fans are only concenred with IPL. WHAT A JOKE YOU ALL ARE, they don't realise how ashamed we(aussie-indians) were/are when they toured here last . WHAT A JOKE. its time to GO . SEWHAG DHONI GAMBHIR ZAK. the only concession i can make is to put Sehwag down the middle order

Posted by akshay1994 on (October 25, 2012, 4:46 GMT)

Surely they can't be that in denial? They are both in terrible form, surely they must know that?

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 4:42 GMT)

Apart from the 93 and 85 against SA and Aus respectively what else has he contributed in recent times to indian cricket. It appears that success has got into his head and he does not want to rectify/analyze his game. Time to dump him and look for a more suitable guy committed to indian cricket.

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 4:41 GMT)

Poor gauti.. is frustrated by these critics!.. Please gauti and viru, shut the mouth of all your critics, give some awesome performances! :)

Posted by   on (October 25, 2012, 4:41 GMT)

im js assuming tht sehwag an gabbhir will pound england on those flat indian decks unless fin comes out all guns blazing or jimmy gets som swing or movement .

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