India A v England XI, Mumbai, 1st day

Abhinav, Tiwary make it India A's day

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October 30, 2012

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India A 369 for 9 (Tiwary 93, Abhinav 73, Bresnan 3-59, Swann 3-90) v England XI
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Tim Bresnan celebrates after taking a wicket, India A v England XI, tour match, Mumbai, 1st day, October 30, 2012
Tim Bresnan took three wickets, including the key ones of Ajinkya Rahane and Manoj Tiwary © AFP
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Tim Bresnan and Graeme Swann took three wickets apiece to help England XI cut through India A's top order on day one of the tour match in Mumbai, but it was still the hosts' day. Firstly, fast bowler Steven Finn experienced a niggle in his right thigh, for which he required a scan, and then India A forged a comeback led by a determined Manoj Tiwary. They ended the day on 369 for 9, with the last pairing of Vinay Kumar and Parvinder Awana knocking off quick runs.

Finn felt a pain in his thigh while chasing a ball within the first hour of play at the Brabourne Stadium, after bowling just four overs. Being a bowler down, however, didn't prevent England's bowlers from leaving India in some trouble at 190 for 6. India scored rather quickly all through, with opener Abhinav Mukund and Yuvraj Singh, getting to half-centuries, but none of the batsmen could kick on. It needed a 110-run seventh-wicket partnership between Tiwary and Irfan Pathan to lift them to a competitive score.

After choosing to bat on a greenish pitch, India lost opener M Vijay early through a run-out; Bresnan effected the run-out and followed it up with the wicket of Ajinkya Rahane for 4. But the other opener, Abhinav, did not back down, scoring 73 off 83 deliveries with 16 boundaries.

At 57 for 2, he was joined by Yuvraj. After being dropped first ball by the square-leg fielder, Yuvraj stuck around, sharing a 56-run stand with Abhinav. Once Abhinav fell - rather unluckily caught by Ian Bell at short leg while flicking - Suresh Raina could not make his chance count. When wicketkeeper Wriddhiman Saha departed in the 47th over, India had slipped to 190 for 6.

Then Tiwary and No. 8 Irfan began the repair work. They batted for 28 overs, carrying their team to 300 before Irfan fell four short of his half-century. Offspinner Swann had by then taken three wickets.

Tiwary batted differently to Abhinav; while he did play some fluent strokes, he was disciplined and patient, willing to bide his time. Four overs before close of play, Bresnan removed Tiwary, as he played over a yorker. Bresnan got No.10 Ashok Dinda off the very next delivery, but the last pair went on to add 22 and make sure England XI would have to come out again on day two.

England will play two more warm-up games after this one, against Mumbai A and - it was confirmed on Tuesday - Haryana, before the first Test begins in Ahmedabad on November 15.

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Posted by Htc-Android on (October 31, 2012, 15:44 GMT)

what joke. they are saying it was a greenish wicket, but only one wicket was taken by an indian fast bowler

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 15:00 GMT)

@Sayak Bhattacharyya on (October 31 2012, 08:22 AM GMT) Roger maybe was a little optimistic but the scorecard didn't turn out to be AS grave as you obviously thought it would when you typed your balanced words

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (October 31, 2012, 13:00 GMT)

India A team batted better than India's test team. Our test team comprises of 2 and half batsmen - Kohli, Pujara, and Dhoni. The 2 and half men can score 150 to 200 runs. The seniors - the poker, the joker, and the easily bowled one, can add maybe 50 to 100 runs. India's test team would be hard pressed to cross 300 runs. India A team has done much better in terms of batting.

Posted by brusselslion on (October 31, 2012, 12:06 GMT)

@Haleos: You have obviously been watching too much one day cricket! If England are 286-4 in reply to 369 at stumps on Day 2 of the 1st Test then it will have been a reasonably good day's work.

When are some Indian fans going to accept the fact that India performed so badly in England in 2011 purely because of factors within their own control? The BCCI agreed to the schedule. If more warm-up matches were needed, I'm sure that most counties (plus Ireland, the MCC, the universities, etc.) would have willingly accommodated them. Matches against touring teams may not be the money spinners that they used to be, but they still offer county/ younger players the opportunity to play against (supposedly) superior opposition and therefore it's in the counties' best interests to host such matches.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 11:17 GMT)

@Haleos 'Yuvi, Raina and Tiwary have bowled more over than Swann and have been more effective.' How is their combined 3 for 116 more effective that Swann's 3 for 90?

And the ODI mindset is more like to result in 250 all out in 2 sessions than 500 in a day and a half.

Posted by NickeyT on (October 31, 2012, 10:58 GMT)

Wouldn't India do better picking all the players of India A for the Test squad, and maybe add Ashwin & Dhoni ? It looks like this A-team is very promising with a lot of talents needing to prove themselves internationally ! They will all try to hit double centuries to prove they are professional players. And most of them are able to do that ! So from now on, no more Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar, ... Their generation is over ! Having said that, I'm an English supporter, and I'm happy to see Cook & Patel racing along. I'm sad Compton didn't make it, I really hope he'll do better & show what he's able to do soon. So... I know you don't make conclusions on one innings, but is Patel the 6th batsmen for the Test squad then ? He seams toe be doing well, and his bowling can be usefull from time to time... It's a shame for Bairstow & Morgan... Must be so hard for the selectors to choose. I'd love to add Chris Woakes to the equation, but it would be even tougher to choose...

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 10:42 GMT)

Well Done Cook and Patil.......You are the Saving Grace for England!

Posted by ThirteenthMan on (October 31, 2012, 10:31 GMT)

Pietersen CAN play left arm spin!

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 31, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

YUVRAJ COULD HAVE GOT HIS 3RD WKT BUT SAHA DROPPED COOK WHO WAS TRYING TO CUT YUVRAJ .

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 9:01 GMT)

What is this? 55 overs, Raina has bowled 12 overs till now.. more than 4 mainstream fast bowlers & 2 regular part time bowlers.... pathan 10 awana 8 dinda 8 vinay 7 yuvraj 8 tiwari 2...... Is this a good captancy? IT LOOKS LIKE HE IS DESPERATELY TRYING TO MAKE A POINT TO SELECTORS THAT HE SHOULD BE SELECTED AHEAD OF YUVI

Posted by Haleos on (October 31, 2012, 8:48 GMT)

@ Rogerunionjack - If we score 500 in day and half with ODI mindset thats better than crawling at 2.5 rpo for 3 days. You guys still are living in 19th century. You already have too many warm up as compared to what we got.

Posted by Haleos on (October 31, 2012, 8:47 GMT)

All those English and non-indian fans crying about England being deprived of spin practise - here is a little stat alert. Yuvi, Raina and Tiwary have bowled more over than Swann and have been more effective. That should be enough practise. When India tours england they dont put front line bowlers for India to practice. So stop being cry babies and if you are so good perform in actual matches.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

@Meety on (October 31 2012, 01:02 AM GMT) Fair point , but really it's still 6/1/4 as it is. Patel is definitely more of a batsman who bowls a bit. At the moment he's 26 not out so we'll see if he does anything with the bat. Yes KP started as a spinner although long before I 1st saw him play. I don't think it was a good day at all and now we're 150 odd for 4 it's not looking great. Sad for Compton too as he has been magnificent all year. Hope he gets a run like they have done with other batsmen.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 8:37 GMT)

@maddy20 on (October 31 2012, 00:56 AM GMT) No one said it's anyone's fault . It was just pointing out that with one bowler only able to bowl 4 overs you can hardly call it a full strength pace attack.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

@Rogerunionjack : 320/3 at the end of the day isn't it mate? See the score now and we haven't yet unleashed our regular spinners. Pray to the lord to have mercy on your team in the coming days.

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 31, 2012, 8:02 GMT)

@indian fans - there is lots of batting talent in India resulting in players jostling for positions. I feel the new selectors should aim to get an INDIA and INDIA A team together that is good enough to compete overseas. We need to search for more bowling talents in India. We found a YADAV so why look hard for more.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 7:54 GMT)

Worrying Signs for England.....if they cannot handle Yuvi and Raina, how they are going to handle Ashwin and Ojha on a turning pitch ??

Posted by sachin_vvsfan on (October 31, 2012, 7:52 GMT)

@spadda you have a point. Hope they play on completely different pitch in Ahmedabad for practice match. I doubt Monty panesar will even play in these practice matches (he avoided last time he toured and got sachins wicket in actual matches)

But as usual vaughn will shout about the spirit of the game.

Posted by himohan007 on (October 31, 2012, 7:47 GMT)

@Haleos though I am die hard CSK fan, I also think as u. He has serious attitude problem. Hope he doesn't selected for India because of some domestic performance because will fail once again miserably.

Posted by criclogics on (October 31, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

To all those English gentlemen who feel India have been unfair in not playing spinners in the opening game. You dont understand India's hospitality. Had India played regular spinners England would have lost badly denting their confidence even further. So India is being extremely nice in not playing spinners and allowing the English batsmen to flower(pun intended).

Its a different matter that English batsmen cant play the spin of Yuvraj and Raina either!

Posted by himohan007 on (October 31, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

Guys Tiwary's 93 is useless because Super Talented Rohit Saharma scored mighty century against nets inside net yesterday at another part of Mumbai. LoL

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 7:41 GMT)

I agree with Ignatiuscric. Rohit was given too many chances while players in good form where watching. Stupid selectors! Yuvaraj is a great player and now he is matured as a man....which means we can expect more from him. Tiwary could do even better if he has a few more varieties in shot selection.He is one of the few Indian players who are good in playing onside.

Posted by sandeepgla on (October 31, 2012, 5:08 GMT)

@Hassan Khalid i am a great fan of Irfan Pathan and i think he is way ahead in terms of talent in comparison from vinay kumar, praveen kumar etc hope he bowls well we need a bowling all rounder when touring places like England, New Zealand etc.

Posted by GRVJPR on (October 31, 2012, 4:56 GMT)

Most South Indians are jumping for Badrinath. To be fair, he looked too nervous while facing quality bowlers. Plays well on flat chennai wicket agains India B bowlers

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 3:26 GMT)

why dont they give a chance to badrinath or saha, saha performed well in australia gambhir, sehwag are out of form hopefully they dont put raina in the test team

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (October 31, 2012, 3:24 GMT)

Lots of comments congratulating the A team for scoring runs at over 4 an over against a full strength attack. Fair enough. But the way we see it, this is a warm up for a test series, and we got nine wickets on the opening day. Maybe the Indian mindset is still towards limited overs, if we were batting first, we'd rather be 320 for 3 than 369 for 9. Absolutely no complaints about the hosts line up (no spinners), that's your prerogative, we can only play against whom we've been asked to. The real test will be when we bat. Fortunately, we also have two more warm ups to iron out any deficiencies.

Posted by satish619chandar on (October 31, 2012, 3:01 GMT)

I always felt the likes of Rahane and Tiwary might add more value to the test team than ODI specialists like Raina or Yuvi. No disrespect to Raina and Yuvi but still, Tiwary and Rahane don't get chances in ODI because they might not score as fast as a Rohit or Raina. It is understandable. But if they are not going to get chance in tests too where their technique is better than flamboyants, then how are they going to utilise the form of some good players? So a Tiwary or Rahane will end up their career as Badrinath or a Akash Chopra in the domestic cricket? I honestly feel it will be a kill of talent if they don't get their much deserved chances.

Posted by AMAZINGFAN on (October 31, 2012, 2:21 GMT)

ENG FUTURE IN TEST CRICKET LOOKS BLEAK......EVEN IND SECOND STRING SIDE CAN BEAT THIS MEDIOCRE ENG TEAM.......

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 2:19 GMT)

really want to see irfan pathan bowling well and making a come back in test cricket as well

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (October 31, 2012, 2:15 GMT)

Manoj Tiwary deserves a place in the Indian test team ahead of Yuvi. Raina is not a test caliber prayer. He should forget about tests and concentrate on ODI and T20. I don't think our selectors have the guts to drop 10dulkar, but they should drop one of the non-performing openers - either Viru or Gauti. That will create an opening for Mukund or Dhawan. 10dulkar will retire after getting clean bowled a few times in his 20s. At that point Kohli can rightfully claim the no. 4 spot.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 1:29 GMT)

Too much is being expected of Patel, really he's a batting allrounder/part timer and asking him to bowl more than 10 overs in an innings asking for trouble. I think if the balls going to spin much then Monty and Swann should be playing, Monty bowled pretty well in the UAE.

Posted by Meety on (October 31, 2012, 1:02 GMT)

@JG2704 on (October 30 2012, 21:39 PM GMT) - I was referring to 6/1/4 as opposed to Patel as such. He did get a good wicket, but he didn't seem to have applied the pressure needed. I think they should make sure KP is bowling in the nets, as I have always thought he was a better spinner than his stats say - although I find it hard to believe he started off as a spinner! Bad luck about Finn, I thought he could do a bit of damage against the Indian line up. I actually don't think the day was too bad - given its the first hit out. The bowlers took top order wickets, & the difference between a good day & slightly sub-par is being down a bowler.

Posted by maddy20 on (October 31, 2012, 0:56 GMT)

@JG2704 Hey its not our fault he was injured!Besides, Finn or no Finn would not matter to us though. An impressive Aussie pace attack was blunted 2-0 twice in India, the second one being a whitewash. The side that has better spinners and can play spin better will win here.

Posted by Ignatiuscric on (October 31, 2012, 0:49 GMT)

Everyone keep talking abt Raina or Yuvraj's inclusion, i dont know why Tiwary has been sidelined for ODI and Tests when he has been a consistent performer at domestic level as well as regular run getter when given opportunity from those here n there ODI opportunities. Had he been given half the opportunity what Rohit Sharma got, he would have cemented his place in ODI team and would have been first choice ahead of Yuvraj, Raina or Rohit or whoever in tests.... Most of the times he sits out carrying drinks when he is in the squad... Hopefully he gets his chance after this yet another good knock... Keep performing Tiwary

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 31, 2012, 0:15 GMT)

A good day for BOTH teams IMO. It's only a 3 day show ! so who cares. The Indian batsmen attacked and played positively. They are out to WIN this one. England also did a fair job picking up all those wickets regularly. It's a shame these tour games are not even available in the form of highlights. I also expect England to make some runs. The Brabourne is a sporting wicket and NOT a totally placid pitch as some people here have mentioned. So that would make for some exciting red ball cricket for you purists.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 23:48 GMT)

Raina needs to step back and work things out both mentally and technically. God, his stance and grip on the bat (soooo freaking high) make him look like an out and out slogger waiting to heave the ball over midwicket. His lack of footwork is also another concern....all hands....just plays from the crease. I cant even think of a time where he has played a proper cover drive, square cut, forcing shot...everything is on the up with that ridiculous bat swing. Talent wise he is an absolute GUN...just not their mentally/technically.

Posted by markatnotts on (October 30, 2012, 23:30 GMT)

Oh how funny this gets. England have a bad day, and lo and behold the 2 0 result SA, over 3 Tests is now converted to a 3 0 white wash by RandyOz. Or am I wrong and my TV didn't show the correct result? Oh well emotion over fact is common place on this site. Next I will hear that England bowled even worse today than they did, and the score was 600 for 3. Anyway I hope Finn recovers quickly and England pull themselves together. Then again Oz in their own eyes already have the beat bowling attack in the world so why bother with this series?

Posted by mikey76 on (October 30, 2012, 23:25 GMT)

Erm Randy don't know where the slide is here, first day of tour! And we weren't whitewashed by SA. Other than that you're spot on as usual.... (tongue firmly in cheek).

Posted by Patchmaster on (October 30, 2012, 23:16 GMT)

@ RandyOZ we still have a long way to slide before you'll be able to reclaim the Ashes, our Be team could keep hold of the Ashes from AUS....he he......

Posted by Htc-Android on (October 30, 2012, 23:06 GMT)

Tiwary should play ahead of Yuvi and raina. Tiwary can atleast score 10 or 15 runs with the bat. as a bowler he can bowl better than ordinary bowlers like Ashwin and Bhaji.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 22:57 GMT)

I am very happy how India A have done but very honestly, minus Kohli and Pujara the Indian Test 11 seems much more fallible than the A team. Schoolboys can get Gambhir and Sehwag out, the indian media and fans have created enough pressure on Tendulkar and no idea how Dhoni will play!

Won't be surprised if the England bowlers do better against the First 11 than these guys.

Posted by jb633 on (October 30, 2012, 22:51 GMT)

@RandyOz- for once I agree with you but I wouldn't boast just yet when you are about to witness Ed Cowan facing up to Steyn and Morkel lol. I am not suprised by this day and must say congrats to the Indian players for obviously batting well and at a high tempo. For England this is a poor but unexpected bad start to the tour. For starters why is Samit Patel in this side. He adds absolutley nothing with the ball. I have never actually seen him move one off the straight and against Indian batsmen this will be cannon fodder. It is a timid selection to involve him in this side and it says to India that "we are worried about our batsmen". Monty had a bad test match in the field against Sri Lanka but an excellent tour of UAE before that. He has also done reasonably well against India in the past and I know a few of their commentators rate him. Fingers crossed that Finn is not to badly injured or that would be a disaster for England.

Posted by spadda on (October 30, 2012, 22:51 GMT)

well India missed the trick here. sth africa wanted to play there warm up match somewhere closer to brisbane but they were denied by CA . instead they r playing there warm up in sydney on some flat track. the point is why should India give England a four day warm up game in Ahmadabad , the venue for first test match. where is the advantage in that.

Posted by Raj12345 on (October 30, 2012, 22:09 GMT)

Don't select Yuvi based on one good innings, This is been done many times by Tiwary, Mukund, Rahane & Pujara. Funny people talk just knock and forget the rest.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (October 30, 2012, 22:01 GMT)

@maddy20 - tell that to Sunil Gavaskar about the no excise thing....

Posted by JG2704 on (October 30, 2012, 21:53 GMT)

As an England fan , it's a disappointing day although maybe I shouldn't get too disheartened as we only bowled 3 proper bowlers for most of the inns. Well played the Indian batsmen , several of who are making a case for the full 11. Not sure what the pitch is like but I dread seeing the scorecard when I wake up tomorrow. I hope my Somerset man Nick does the business although it's a case of "be careful what you wish for" in a way as a good tour might lead to Somerset losing his services next year. Sorry for Finn , but I suppose pace bowling is something we have more depth in than in other depts. Also I would like to see all our bowlers given at least a game each in the warm up games. I had Broad or Bres in my starting 11 and was surprised how Bres has done - i thought Eng missed a trick not letting him play in the CLT20 and he might be undercooked/rusty - but maybe he could be the sort of bowler who will do well out there. Too early to tell I guess

Posted by RandyOZ on (October 30, 2012, 21:41 GMT)

And the slide post the South Africa and Pakistan whitewashes continues. England are in deep, deep trouble.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 30, 2012, 21:39 GMT)

@Meety on (October 30 2012, 20:53 PM GMT) re "England would be better off with a specialist batsmen & use the useful spin of that man KP! (sorry jg2704!)!" - What are you sorry for? Patel would unlikely make my first 11. I said about playing him in SL (at the time) as a batting all rounder (he is not a bowling all rounder by any stretch) but that was because all our batsmen were in such poor form. I wanted him in for Bell who was awful (bar 1 inns) in both tours but they put him in for Monty which I felt/still feel was a backward step. KP can actually tweak the ball a bit so you're right there.I'd have Monty in there ahead of Patel for sure. The other think they could have done was had Tredwell out there who is better than Patel with the ball and can hold a bat

Posted by kc69 on (October 30, 2012, 21:32 GMT)

Yuvi and Monoj Tiwary are lot better than Raina in Test Cricket Format.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 30, 2012, 21:30 GMT)

@maddy20 on (October 30 2012, 19:55 PM GMT) That full strength pace attack includes Finn in your eyes then?

Posted by sachinisawesome on (October 30, 2012, 20:58 GMT)

People say u should not be in the team for your past performances. Tiwary's 93 was also yesterday so it is also past now. I mean people are saying drop sehwag, gambhir and sachin. Please luk at the team after that it is so thin. yes they are not going strongly for sometime but they have won so many matches for us so it is stupid to discard them. Specially when dravid and laxman has just retired. plz have some perspective. And @ eyballfallenout plz don't talk about spirit of the game. I remember when Ian bell was given out by the umpire in england Andrew strauss and u r coach went to MSD's room to ask him to overturn the decision and MSD obliged. Was it in the spirit of the game to beg to overturn a decision.

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 30, 2012, 20:57 GMT)

At least this INDIA A team has crossed the 300 mark. Only time will tell with the rebuild exercise. It is time for some of the senior players to stop using the media to gain a position in the team. Let the BAT DO THE TALKING!!!!

Posted by Meety on (October 30, 2012, 20:53 GMT)

I would of selected Patel as a quality back up bowling allrounder, but I think he has to improve a lot - if this is anything to go by. England would be better off with a specialist batsmen & use the useful spin of that man KP! (sorry jg2704!)! All in all, a good hit out for England's bowlers, overcoming the Finn injury. The real test will be batting - but given there is not much spin to face - it won't really (or shouldn't) be a test!

Posted by Haleos on (October 30, 2012, 20:52 GMT)

@ perl57 - perfectly true about Vijay. Why do selectors keep selecting such uselss talent. all attitude no substance. He thinks he can blast any bowler. Plays one day cricket in tests and vice versa.

Posted by Haleos on (October 30, 2012, 20:49 GMT)

@ squarepeg - please no more Vijayi. Enough of him.

Posted by PACERONE on (October 30, 2012, 20:35 GMT)

India A was scoring at over 4 per over against England's top bowlers on a green top wicket.Even with the fall of wickets regularly they kept scoring.Looks good, keep pressure on them and they will falter.

Posted by CandidIndian on (October 30, 2012, 20:30 GMT)

India A batting looks stronger than team India's batting.Sehwag has been a sitting duck since SA tour in tests, Gambhir's form is poor too,Tendulkar is just the shadow of himself ,while Raina and Dhoni has always struggled in tests.Will new selectors take some tough decisions? only time will tell.Eng have the upper hand in my opinion

Posted by Naresh28 on (October 30, 2012, 20:24 GMT)

INDIA has plenty of batting talent. There will always be controversies to due one preference or the other. It is time for the NEW SELECTORS to identify the correct players for the TWO types of pitches and different format games. At the same time it is time up for the older players who failed overseas. So yes we are in REBUILD mode. We must not forget that the likes of CHAND, MENARIA, MANDEEP ,RAYUDU have already performed well overseas. It also looks like - YUVI, MUKUND and TIWARY have put their cases forward. Dhoni should also be replaced by Dinesh Karthik as a trial. A new captain should be elected for TESTS.

Posted by maddy20 on (October 30, 2012, 19:55 GMT)

@Lmaotsetung There will be no excuses if India lose this series. While there is no denying that the team is in transition phase, these are the pitches the fringe players grew up playing on. I suggest you get your excuses jotted down as England is in for a serious fight here. A second string batting 11 has scored at over 4 runs an over against a full strength pace attack. And tomorrow they will face the left arm spin of Yuvraj and most likely Tiwary's leg spinners!

Posted by Nampally on (October 30, 2012, 19:43 GMT)

Good batting by Mukund, Yuvraj, Tiwary & Pathan carried India A to a good total. India A team is normally a test of potential candidates for the Test XI. There are lessons to be learnt here. Mukund batted responsibly as did Yuvraj & Tiwary. All 3 are fighting for test batting spots. Strictly speaking they shld. all be in XI. But the Selectors have reserved spots for Sehwag, Gambhir & Tendulkar. This unfairly eliminates both Tiwary & Mukund- for 3 seniors who are all out of form & struggling!.The selectors hope 3 seniors will get into top form magically & score. England are weak against spinners. Tiwary is a useful leg spinner & will add another dimension to Ashwin, Ojha & Yuvraj's spin trio.So it is a tough call for the Indian Selectors - Form Vs. Past record. Sehwag & Gambhir have to eliminate their reckless batting overnight & shoulder responsibility! SRT has to get a big score at #4. Can they do it is anybody's guess. It is unfair selection when Form & Performance doesn't count!

Posted by maddy20 on (October 30, 2012, 19:42 GMT)

Irfan's good batting form is a new headache for Dhoni. It would be interesting to see if he will play 6 batsmen(Tiwary replacing Sehwag), 4 bowlers(Ashwin, Umesh,Ojha Zaheer) and 1 allrounder(Irfan). It would be great if we can play Yuvi too but, thanks to oldman Sachin(who is likely to score 10s and 20s in all the innings) an inform batsmen who can also double up as a valuable left arm spinner has to miss out.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (October 30, 2012, 19:39 GMT)

Drop Viru or Gauti, SRT, and Raina and play Mukund, Yuvi and Tiwary in their place. Mukund can take Viru or Gauti's spot, push Kohli to no. 4 position, Tiwary and Yuvi can take no. 5 and 6 positions. That's a team for present and future. Viru and 10dulkar will be gone in 6 months anyway. Why not groom a youngster in their place?

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 19:28 GMT)

Why is England getting 3 warm up games when India got only 1? How is that fair? Also play Unmukt Chand instead of Murali Vijay in the next warm up game.

Posted by Rushikey on (October 30, 2012, 19:08 GMT)

@eyballfallenout, This was a practice match and they wanted to test all available openers (3) on bench. Also for your kind information wickets here favors spinners as oppose to English pitches and weather. Nothing disgraceful in that.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 19:04 GMT)

Dont worry England. You guys will do much better against the first XI. Gauti and Viru are walking wickets. And Sachin is a shade of his old self. No Laxman or Dravid to dig us out of holes which the openers create. :(

Posted by chokkashokka on (October 30, 2012, 19:03 GMT)

An India A team makes almost 400 runs against the No. 1 test side in a day - how is this an English assault? Perhaps the charge of the light brigade was an english assault as well then.

Posted by Rahulbose on (October 30, 2012, 18:46 GMT)

Eng doing well with preparation, while Indian XI are not even having a training camp. Unless Ahmedabad produces a real flat track, I see the result of the first test already

Posted by grizzle on (October 30, 2012, 18:45 GMT)

Good day for Mukund, Tiwary, and Yuvraj, and the England camp as well. They've not done too shabbily given that they landed in India about 48 hours ago! A professional outfit. Also, 360/9 in a day in a test match! Looks like it was an entertaining day's cricket.

Posted by Raj12345 on (October 30, 2012, 18:43 GMT)

Dhoni never overlooked anyone because of Raina. The truth is Dhini never looked around, always thinks that, himself and raina can play for ever. Someone should drop Dhoni then rest fall in the way and you can see Rahane, Tiwary, Badri & few mores in team. Untill Dhoni being captain, it is only dream to see these players.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 18:43 GMT)

@Haleos - you might not have got a rank turner in the UK, but Swann's 208-9 at the Oval compared pretty favourably with Mishra's 170-0...... @SquareTurner - blame the BCCI and the players for only 1 warm up in the UK, it's up to the touring team to request them. And why did they request 1x3 day, 1x2 day, two 45 over games and a T20 to warm up for a test series? Hardly the ECB's fault!

Posted by Street_Hawk on (October 30, 2012, 18:42 GMT)

If Tiwary plays well then it's a placid track (even if the article says that it was a greenish track), if Nohit Sharma plays well then it's most vicious pitch that even "God" (Tendulkar) has seen...grow up people and give credit where it is due...Mukund, Yuvi and Tiwari played well...although you will see a whole different England attack in the actual test matches

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

And Dhoni will still not pick Manoj Tiwari, or pick him right after a long jetlagged flight, wonder what he has against Tiwari.

Posted by xylo on (October 30, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

I am hoping this makes Gambhir/Sehwag a bit nervous.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 18:19 GMT)

Ashwin, Irfan Pathan both scored hundreds in test matches. Even Zaheer Khan can bat if he bats patiently. so why 7 batsman + 4 bowlers formula? Always 6 batsman + 2 bowlers who can bat + 3 genuine bowlers formula is good for any formate in cricket. Then bowlers work load & injuries will be reduced. Also selection should be according to the opposition team. For that team should have a good bench players with rotation policy.

Posted by brittop on (October 30, 2012, 18:08 GMT)

@SquareTurner: It's the choice of the touring team's board to request the amount of warm-up games it wants. The ECB takes test cricket more seriously than the BCCI, so wants more warm-up games for it's team.

Posted by Stateside_Steve on (October 30, 2012, 18:07 GMT)

Correction - My number 6 in the 11 is Yuvi, auto correct made it as tubing.

Posted by torsha on (October 30, 2012, 17:48 GMT)

Well where is England's assault here? Why they are putting heading as if it was England's day? lol

Posted by Stateside_Steve on (October 30, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

Finn's injury is a major concern hope it isn't serious. Good to see the second tier batsmen score at a fast clip against a mostly full strength England attack. My playing 11 for the first two matches. 1) Viru 2) Gauti 3) Pujara 4) SRT 5) Kohli 6) Tubing 7) MSD 8) I Pathan 9) Ashwin 10) Zaheer 11) Ohja

Posted by Wynand80 on (October 30, 2012, 17:28 GMT)

@eyballfallenout, the series has not even started and the whining has started in all glory. What does spirit of cricket have to do with India playing 3 spinners. It is a bit childish and self-centered to view these practice games as practice games for England only. India are beginning their rebuilding process and India would therefore like their second string players to have a feel of playing in pacy pitches against top notch fast bowlers and Indian second string pacers to have a chance to bowl in pacy pitches at home versus top quality batsmen used to playing in such pitches. This practice will ensure that when India tour abroad its second string players would have this invaluable experience rather than learning on tour. Insofar as England are concerned, they are getting three tour matches and as I can see in the second tour match they will be facing a leg spinner and in the third I think they will be facing A Mishra, former Indian spinner, please dont expect Ashwin and Ojha for now

Posted by SquareTurner on (October 30, 2012, 17:23 GMT)

"England will play two more warm-up games after this one, against Mumbai A and - it was confirmed on Tuesday - Haryana, before the first Test begins in Ahmedabad on November 15." I don't understand, when India tours Eng/Aus/Sa, they get one odd warm up game. Here England gets three warm up games.

Posted by Haleos on (October 30, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

@ street_smart - not only indian team. Any team in the world. Lets having rank turners and make poms do some hip hop. That is the home advantage. Do we get spinner friendly pitches in england?

Posted by Zuber44 on (October 30, 2012, 17:06 GMT)

Tiwary and Yuvraj deserve the chance after this performance.....

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (October 30, 2012, 17:00 GMT)

England is in a no-win situation in this series. If they lose it's all the same thing regurgitated a million times (can't play spin, can't play on flat tracks, can't play in sub continent, blah, blah, blah) and if they win it's because India is in transition and a much weaker team than previous series and Eng can't win without KP.

Posted by squarepeg on (October 30, 2012, 16:54 GMT)

Good showing by Mukund, Yuvi and Tiwary. The No. 6 spot seems a toss-up between the latter two, with yuvi the better bowler and Tiwary much the better fielder. Soon Indian selectors will face the need to replace one of the openers and also Sachin. With Pujara, Rehane and Murli Vijay in the wings, past performance someday must yield to current form and future.

Posted by simon_w on (October 30, 2012, 16:53 GMT)

England and India are warming up for the coming series, and so am I :) It's going to be exciting, I think. As an England fan, I'll be happy enough if we're properly competitive, and we get a tight series. I wouldn't rule out either a narrow England win, or an Indian clean sweep, which I reckon are about equally likely!

Posted by Tigg on (October 30, 2012, 16:49 GMT)

I'd like to see Onions get a runaround in the next warmup. His aggression, wicket-wicket line, and swing should pose problems.

Posted by raghavan88 on (October 30, 2012, 16:31 GMT)

Brabourne is one of the few Indian pitches to assist Fast Bowlers early on.369 runs on day 1 is high,but the English got 9 of our batsmen as well.Let us see how they bat tomorrow against dibblers dobblers Vinay and Dinda.Would have liked to see Umesh getting a warm-up this game.

Posted by premclement on (October 30, 2012, 16:26 GMT)

@eyeballfallenout, why would India play spinners on a greenish top? It is a disgrace, it is wise decision to player 3 pacers on this pitch.

Posted by rustyryan on (October 30, 2012, 16:17 GMT)

It would be better to have Mukund to open the innings with Viru and Gauti as one down. Pujara can play in the sixth position. Viru and Gauti, both being aggressive ,offer more chances to the bowlers at the top of the order. Need someone to block one end...

Posted by PrasPunter on (October 30, 2012, 16:07 GMT)

@ eyballfallenout , tell something that is not obvious and the world doesn't know !!

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 16:03 GMT)

Tiwari made 93. 7more runs (century) would have made it so much better. However, it would be funny, if Rohit Sharma gets selected again in place of Tiwary because Rohit looks so much more elegant :-) .....Selectors have done it in past. Kaif was not retained in the test squad in spite of making best of his chances in the test matches; because, other players looked more elegant than him :-)

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:55 GMT)

god knows why SHIKHAR DHAWAN DIDNT OPEN ALONGSIDE MUKUND WE HAV TO GET RID OF SEHWAG ,GAMBHIR, SACHIN AND RAINA.. M VIJAY DOESNT HAVE D TECHNIQUE TO SURVIVE FULL PITCHED SWINGING DELIVERIES

BATTING ORDER FOR 4 TESTS SHOULD BE ; DHAWAN, MUKUND, PUJARA, MANOJ TIWARY, KOHLI, YUVRAJ, D KARTIK OR SMIT PATEL( U 19 ),

Posted by InsideHedge on (October 30, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

The wicket must have been placid AND the England seam attack listless if Mukund could score almos a run a ball 70-odd.

Posted by Rudrajit on (October 30, 2012, 15:45 GMT)

Its ridiculous that Tiwary is not in the regular XI in all 3 formats. He bats consistently, he is electric on the field and is a more than capable t20 player. But then, people will keep giving chances to Rohit, Raina, an unfit Yuvi and anyone else who walks on 2 legs and can spell cricket.

Posted by cricket-is-passion on (October 30, 2012, 15:45 GMT)

@Neeta: good write up not sure who did you know Saha padded when there was no telect or no ball/ball commentory. @eyballfallenout: India is playing with pacers including Irfan, Awana, Vinay, and Dinda along with part time spinners Yuvi, Raina, Tiwary so not sure how you got teh count as 3 for pacers unless you don't consider Irfan as pacer :). Any ways it seems like India A is playing well and I really wanted Rahene perform well as he has good technique and temperment and Tiwary is a good option as well based on whatever he had proved in domestic cricket. Also hoping getting a chance to our talented batsman (thats what everyone says) Rohit in atleast Mumbai A team to prove his temperment. And ofcourse Yuvi played well but couldn't capitalize much to continue to post a big knock. Again Eng didn't play their other strike bolwer Broad not sure if its a tactic here. Hope India A bowling dept especially Irfan comes out well ...

Posted by karthisun on (October 30, 2012, 15:38 GMT)

@eyballfallenout: every team has its own right to pickup their squad and playing 11 ,How comes this affect the spirit of cricket that too in a practice match when selectors try different combination to judge players performance to pick the main squad.

Posted by Triple_A on (October 30, 2012, 15:37 GMT)

Nice start to the tour - India XI scored at a good clip and the England bowlers got a bunch of wickets. I still don't think Tiwary can command a place in the test eleven. India HAS to have a left hander in the middle order, and Yuvraj should be the man. Not to mention, Yuvraj's bowling is significantly better than Tiwary's long hops. I am all for Tiwary in ODI - having all the potential in the world should not keep Rohit in the team - but he will not work out in the Test XI at the moment. Also, nice score by Mukund at the top, but he seems really poor at rotating the strike...take out the boundaries and we have 9 runs from 67 balls...not good!

Posted by perl57 on (October 30, 2012, 15:25 GMT)

It is a very good thing Vijay failed. Even if he would have scored a 50 he would have taken opener's role. A useless batsman, worst fielder, and someone who does not play but dance all the time. I feel based on this match the xi should be, Viru, Abhinav, kohli, Sachin, Tiwari, Dhoni, Raina. For batsmen. Zaheer, Irfan are a good bet for fast bowlers. Ashwin, Mishra and Bhajji. Gauti has flopped more than he clicked. So it goes as a warning. Mishra and Bhajji because they have ability to conbtribute 20 odd each while batting which Ojha cannot. Raina because if he clicks for 30 minutes he can score a quick fire 50. It is just a matter of finding feet. And he can bowl and field.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:22 GMT)

In Wat Channel This Match Is Telecasted???

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:21 GMT)

@eyballfallenout - India A has spinners in Raina, Yuvraj, Tiwary. Trust me - English batsmen will find even these spinners too hot to handle.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:18 GMT)

WOW... One match in which tiwary scores 90 and the whole world says tiwary should be in 11... No1 cared about this guy a couple of days ago. He has been performing whenever provided with an opportunity, but still he is never the first option on people's mind... He is one of the best batsmen in india... And i mean mentally... Any other guy who has been out of contention for so long despite performing well would have given up... I can only remember gautam gambhir, who could break into the indian team after being ignored for so long.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:13 GMT)

So England leak runs against a 2nd string side at more than 4 runs per over and there are people congratulating them for exceeding expectations and being professional??!! Surely that must be a sign of things to come!

Posted by nix_moviefreak on (October 30, 2012, 15:06 GMT)

As there is not a live telecast of this game, we can judge their performances based solely on the scoreboard and it praises english seamers. They did pretty well on the first day. Hope Finn gets some action in the remaining match.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:05 GMT)

Dhoni should get over his obsession about Raina and Rohit and start looking at Tiwari. He may not be best technical batsman but he has determination which is most important of all skills. Tiwary deserves a fair chance. If Dhoni is still persistent then selectors should have a word with Dhoni, otherwise Tiwari will get disheartened and demoralized. He has been consistent for a long time still Dhoni has overlooked him.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 15:05 GMT)

@Rogerunionjack, did u read this article? The article says " After choosing to bat on a greenish pitch"...

@eyballfallenout, India was given with the flattest pitch for tour game in England India ... And India A has all seam attack since it was a green track...

Posted by Sri.Smiles on (October 30, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

I am sure england would bowl better in the tests. W can not go with what they have done here especially as finn also did not bowl for a long while.

Posted by eyballfallenout on (October 30, 2012, 14:45 GMT)

india are a disgrace, playing 3 medium pacers is childish. Indians cant talk about spirit of cricket anymore.......

Posted by karthiksiram on (October 30, 2012, 14:41 GMT)

hi England! welcome to India! :)

Posted by Neeta on (October 30, 2012, 14:36 GMT)

Really wish that there was a live telecast of the game. It seems that Vijay was unlucky to get runout while Mukund batted well but didn't rotate the strike well enough which is so critical even in test matches. Yuvraj looks in good form inspite of getting dropped on his first ball faced. Tiwary looks in good touch again and both Yuvi and Tiwary should make the first test squad with Suresh Raina looking good as a one-day and T20 player only. The mode of dismissal of Wriddhiman Saha by padding upto a reverse inswinging delivery doesn't look good and personally I find Dinesh Karthick a much more compact batsmen even if he is not as good a keeper as Saha. Pathan again showed his credentials with the bat and would be nice if he continues with the bowling form he showed in the ODI's. Rahane after having been on the bench for so long looks out of touch and should be allowed to go back to domestic cricket to get his touch back. All in all a good day's play for India-A against England.

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (October 30, 2012, 14:36 GMT)

No.6 spot must goes to tiwary..if not tiwary then it should be yuvraj atleast for his bowling(sure kp will be his bunny)..PLEASE NO MORE RAINA IN TESTS PLEASE..

Posted by QingdaoXI on (October 30, 2012, 14:24 GMT)

Tiwary Should be included in playing Xi, as it will also give us option of Leg-spin bowling. Hard luck Rahane and Vijay, hope you will grab your second chance in next innings.

Posted by street_smart on (October 30, 2012, 14:20 GMT)

everyone go on saying that Tiwary has problem with short ball... can you tell me who doesn't? In Indian team, only Tendulkar & Dravid could handle short ball & no one else....

Posted by sandeepgla on (October 30, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

baring his short ball problem Tiwari could be safe bat for No-6 spot and more than useful part timer for 4-5 legspin bowling.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (October 30, 2012, 14:09 GMT)

This is India's 2nd XI. at 360 for 9 against our first string bowlers. The headline should have read "Once hype ends and play starts, England's inevitable fade starts in the warmup match...". Honestly, those bowling figures are embarassing.

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (October 30, 2012, 13:54 GMT)

Well done England, it was a good work out. And to dismiss nine Indians on fairly placid pitch exceeded expectations. Pity about Finn though, let's hope all turns out well. It seems the aggressive mindset of the Indians was their undoing. Happy about all our bowlers going about their job professionally. The real test though will be when we bat tomorrow, even though India have an all pace attack.

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 30, 2012, 13:51 GMT)

Sorry Tiwary, Dhoni won't pick you rather you will be carrying drinks. I suggest go and play for Bengal, at least they will benefit from your form. Such is life!! and for Mukund, you keep piling runs just like Badri did and find yourself ignored for the next 10 years. I hope Rahane does not turn to be 'Rohit in disguise!!' Raina needs a mental coach (Dhoni??) and not batting coach. Yuvi, you are turning out be a saga, how i wish you show the same form in TESTs. Over to slow trundlers and pie chucker tomorrow.

Posted by   on (October 30, 2012, 13:46 GMT)

Tiwari should be included in playing XI....!!

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