India A v England XI, Mumbai, 2nd day

Cook and Patel lead strong response

ESPNcricinfo staff

October 31, 2012

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England XI 286 for 4 (Cook 112*, Patel 82*) trail India A 369 (Tiwary 93, Abhinav 73, Bresnan 3-59, Swann 3-90) by 83 runs

Alastair Cook drives through the covers, India A v England XI, tour match, Mumbai, 2nd day, October 31, 2012
Alastair Cook finished the day on an unbeaten 112 © Associated Press
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England's batsmen had a good day out at the Brabourne Stadium in Mumbai, replying strongly to India A's 369 with captain Alastair Cook leading the way with a century. Jonathan Trott made a half-century and Samit Patel, promoted to bat at No.6, gave Cook good support, finishing the day unbeaten on 82.

Patel has played in two Tests, both in Sri Lanka earlier this year, and his innings added weight to his case win a recall against India. He is likely to face competition from Jonny Bairstow and Eoin Morgan, though Patel's ability to provide support to Graeme Swann as the second spinner could give him the edge.

"There's a few more games to go yet. It's obviously great to get a start and a good score in the first game and I feel great but there's still a lot of work to do," Patel said. "I thought Cookie played brilliant, out of his skin, to bat all day is a great effort. I'm getting better at my role and the more games I play the better I'll be."

India A had done well on the opening day and their innings lasted just one delivery on the second, as R Vinay Kumar was trapped in front by James Anderson. England suffered an early blow in their response, with Nick Compton edging to the wicketkeeper off Ashok Dinda in the second over. Cook and Trott, though, built a steady stand before the part-time off-spin of Suresh Raina accounted for Trott, breaking a partnership of 95.

A left-arm spinner, once again, brought about Kevin Pietersen's downfall, as he was caught and bowled by Yuvraj Singh for a quick 23 that included three fours and a six. When Yuvraj dismissed Ian Bell for 5 in the 38th over, England were in a difficult situation at 133 for 4.

Cook continued accumulating runs and Patel gave him good support, the pair batting 49 overs till the close to add 153. England finished the day on 286 for 4, just 83 adrift.

After the close of play, Patel praised Cook's effort and said that England's plans for the tour would involve emulating the approach of their captain and keeping the opposition in the field for as long as possible. "Chef's character and work ethic are outstanding and that shows in his batting," he said. "One of our things is to grind and grind and grind and work hard as a unit and keep India in the dirt."

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Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (November 2, 2012, 21:09 GMT)

@gsingh7 (post on November 01 2012, 11:50 AM GMT): Very original as usual... Yet interesting that you admitted on another thread that India are only good in their own back yard. I'm guessing we can all look forward to such knowledgeable words of wisdom throughout the series... *^^*

Posted by Meety on (November 2, 2012, 6:19 GMT)

@Akshita29 on (November 01 2012, 11:29 AM GMT) - words of wisdom! I wish that was the attitude of ALL fans on this site, with just a bit of GOOD NATURED ribbing here & there! Well said matey!

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (November 2, 2012, 1:54 GMT)

Things are not looking good for India. We have 3 walking wickets in Gambhir, Sehwag, and 10dulkar. We can't expect Kohli and Pujara to score 200 plus runs in every innings. Expect Dhoni, mysterious no.6, and Ashwin to take up more batting burden. Sure, Ashwin and Ojha will do well with the ball, but the batsmen still need to put a decent total. It's time we drop Sehwag and 10dulkar, and give a chance to young batsmen like Dhawan and Tiwary.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 1, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

My guess, JG, is that they'll give Nick Compton all three games unless he really looks at sea in the second match, but that will mean Alistair Cook either missing a game or dropping down the order so that Joe Root can play... just in case.

Posted by JG2704 on (November 1, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

@CricketingStargazer on (November 01 2012, 11:46 AM GMT) I'm disappointed as a Somerset fan for Nick as he has been by far the best domestic batsmen out there this season. It'd be nice if they could jiggle it around so they all get a couple of games but that may be tough and I guess if they give Root the next game and he fails then do they move someone up the order and bring in Morgan or and Jonny? Also Root could come in and get a score in one inns but it doesn't mean he's more likely to succeed in the tests based on 1 inns. They've given other batsmen a few matches so hopefully they'll do the same with Nick

Posted by JG2704 on (November 1, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

@Akshita29 on (November 01 2012, 11:29 AM GMT) - no worries.

Posted by himohan007 on (November 1, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

@Sachin_Pankaj : I like the first team which is good. But the second team is highly over-rated it shows u r a typical Mumbaikar who wants his MI players in Indian team lol.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (November 1, 2012, 11:51 GMT)

India go COOKED. Way t go Cookie, you can hear India's excuses already being prepared.

Posted by gsingh7 on (November 1, 2012, 11:50 GMT)

whitewash of overrated english team is on the cards, hope viru scores his 3rd triple century on 16th nov

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 1, 2012, 11:46 GMT)

Both sides can take some positives out of this match. A good match for England with bat and ball. The biggest negative was Nick Compton's failure: does he play the two remaining matches with Alistair Cook standing down to give Joe Root a game? Or do England play Joe Root straight away in the second match? Overall Nick Compton would be my pick for the Tests, but he will need some runs first.

Posted by yoohoo on (November 1, 2012, 11:43 GMT)

I don't know what people are talking about flat tracks and stuff. They played the match at Brabourne in Mumbai!! the next match against Mumbai-A is at DY Patil in Mumbai too. And the final warm-up is in Motera, Ahmedabad, which is also the venue of the first test. Also, one of the four tests is in Mumbai.

Can you tell me how many teams get a practice game at the same venue as the first test of the series??

Regarding the pitches, Indian pitches are not like in SL. They are not rank turners (whatever english batting makes it look like). They usually turn only on day-4 and day-5 in India (there are one or two exceptions but none of those exceptions are being played on in this series). Indian pitches are batting flat tracks (as many people have been reminding us on these forums all these years), and any decent batsman should be able to hit centuries here on the first 4 days. Otherwise they are not international grade. Simple.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 11:42 GMT)

After the ist friendly game over for Ind-ENG series in IND, Any body including some of the players from the team - Would they be interesting in revising the forecast for the outcome of this Series?

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 1, 2012, 11:29 GMT)

@jg2704 ok may b I am wrong . So lets make it peace . Lets just enjoy the series .

Posted by satish619chandar on (November 1, 2012, 11:24 GMT)

I would rather say Samit had cemented his place in the 11. what i wouldn't like to see is, him grabbing the place of Monty. Monty was very good in UAE but unceremoniously dropped in further games probably, they went for long tail in the form of Swann. But he MUST play in SC tracks. Samit could be a good No.7 with Prior batting at 6. He already showed he is good enough against INdian bowlers in the 5-0 loss in ODIs in India and also in T20 WC and now. He can surely be depended on than a Bairstow or a Morgan.

Posted by QingdaoXI on (November 1, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

Indian Playing XI for First and Second test: Rahane, Sehwag, Pujara, Tendulkar, Kohli, Yuvraj, Dhoni, Ashwin, Zaheer, Ojha and Umesh. 3rd and 4th test Gambhir, Rahane, Pujara, Rohit, Kohli, Yuvraj, Kartik, Ashwin, Awana, Ojha and Umesh. As assuming Tendulkar and Zaheer will bid adieu in front of home crowd and Sehwag too after completing his 100 test will retire and Dhoni becuase of bad performance will be dropped, Gambhir, Rohit, Kartik and Awana will come in with good performances in Ranji. It will be real rebuilding of Team.

Posted by Selassie-I on (November 1, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

Not bad for the 1st match, happy with the boys' performance. Although they scored 360 int he 1st inns, we did have a frontline bowler injured, the bowler who looks like our best sub-continent quick. We batted strongly with a couple of 100s and took some wickets at the end! Not like this was a poor team to face as well, it is the Indian 2nd string line up so no complaints at all about the team selection and we got a bit of a look at Yuvi and Raina, one of whom we will surely be facing in the test series.

Posted by satish619chandar on (November 1, 2012, 11:16 GMT)

So, with the first warmup game, it would be safe to say that Raina is out of contention for the No.6 slot. 5 bats in Gauti, Viru, Pujara, Sachin and Virat picks themselves and same with WK and spinners. Now comes the problems. For No.6 : There are three options. 1. Bring in Yuvi as a third spinner and a No.6 bat. 2. Bring in Tiwary for a settled No.6 bat an occasional 2 overs part time spinner. 3. Bring in Rahane as opener and move Viru to middle order(The toughest decision to make but still worth a try given Viru's bad form at top order. We can use him more as a bowler too). Knowing the captain, he will be going for option No.1. Challenge for the selectors is to convince the captain on the pace bowlers. Dhoni might prefer Zak-Umesh or Zak-Ishant for sure. If selectors want the zip from Dinda or all rounder in Irfan, they need to convince the captain much i assume. Personally, i would prefer Zak-Umesh pair.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 10:41 GMT)

Patel is the decent all rounder. He is idol for England in India at no.7.Series would be belong to india from score 2-1.cric info please publish.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (November 1, 2012, 10:24 GMT)

@GRVJPR on (November 01 2012, 09:55 AM GMT) Nonsense. Next you will say that Hashim Amla is Indian. He is not Indian either. It is just a small point but - if you are born in britain, go to school in Britain, hold british passport, play all sport in britain, play cricket for England - this does not make you Indian? No convince is required here. Samit Patel is British plain as day.

Posted by gsingh7 on (November 1, 2012, 10:20 GMT)

if only this proved anything is that part time spin cud win india matches vs england , now only a matter of whether its 2-0, 3-0 , or whitewash. who says patel is not indian origin, he has gujrati roots, millions patels in india and he may be born in england but definitely indian roots

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 1, 2012, 10:03 GMT)

Samit Patel is an Indian and a neighbour of Munaf Patel :)

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 1, 2012, 9:55 GMT)

Some people from britain @Charlie101 , @Vacant-slip , trying hard to convince me that Patel's are not Indians. Appeal to all 'Patels' Come in thousands at stadiums and defend your origin.

Posted by Charlie101 on (November 1, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

@GRVJPR plse tell me what you are taking as I would like to try some !!! The game is pretty even at the moment and looks to be heading for a draw. Patel is born and bred in the UK and certainly is not a tail ender - if you do not believe me ask the Indian A team.

Posted by A_Vacant_Slip on (November 1, 2012, 9:13 GMT)

@GRVJPR - this may seem hard for you to understand, but Samit Patel was born in Leicester, England he has held british passport all his life. DO NOT try to claim Samit Patel as Indian. He is British - as british as Stilton Cheese and bulldog.

Posted by JG2704 on (November 1, 2012, 9:09 GMT)

@ Akshita29 on (November 01 2012, 00:55 AM GMT) re "And he fails in one Test match and there would be many calling for Kp's head" Rubbish. Obviously I could point out loads of comms who say England can't do Jack without KP , but I don't think I've seen a comment in the last year which has said KP should not be in the England side (not for what he has done on the field). Actually , tell a lie after UAE , I even questioned his place in the side. I didn't say he should be dropped but I also said Bell should have definitely been dropped after that series but that was 6 inns in a row on top of the 2 warm up matches where the 2 player combined average was less than 20.

Posted by JG2704 on (November 1, 2012, 9:09 GMT)

@maddy20 - Meety's comms are spot on. You would have said that you could bet your last buck that India wouldn't have got beaten 4-0 in England bearing in mind that were the number 1 side in the world and England had a poor record vs India even at home and look what happened? Surely you would then have said there was no way an Oz side who had just been held vs NZ at home could do the same ? Why not for once tone all the big noises down a bit? Most English fans inc those you are responding to aren't saying Eng are going to win or anything so what's the point?

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 1, 2012, 8:53 GMT)

Some wishfull thinking below (almost clutching at straws). England's front-line batsmen manage 2x100 and 2x50 in their first innings on tour, the side posts over 400 and to look at some of the comments you would believe that they had been shot out for 150 instead of making India A bat out time.

Posted by cricket9lover on (November 1, 2012, 8:51 GMT)

India must start mentoring a young wicketkeeper who can bat well after dhoni that must be Smith patel and two new openers dhawan and rahane/mukund,also pacers like unadkad

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 1, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

@GRVJPR Since when has a number 6 who averages 40 in First Class cricket a tail-ender? And didn't one of the openers score 100? Some rescue by the tail!

Posted by redgunner99 on (November 1, 2012, 8:17 GMT)

@GRVJPR. what was more surprising was that last year the number 2 ranked team in the world turned up in England looking like they didn't have a clue how to play in English conditions, Dravid aside. A most disappointingly one-sided contest. I'm hoping India will be showing a bit more determination at home. And as for remarking that Patel is a tailender, well....oh, and an Indian? the clue there is that he's playing for England, and was born in Leicester

Posted by Des_65 on (November 1, 2012, 7:45 GMT)

On flat track, Yuvraj took 5 wickets. Good for Yuvraj but bad sign for England when they will play test matches on sporting (turning) wickets with regular spinners.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 7:39 GMT)

there is any option to transfer players from other countries?then india should bring michel hussey and mithcel starc to the side

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (November 1, 2012, 7:37 GMT)

yuvraj picked wkts of bell , kp , prior , patel , anderson . yuvraj should be selected in test team as a fifth bowling option (and first bowling option against kp ).

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 1, 2012, 7:26 GMT)

Brilliant performance by Yuvraj Singh. It's not a joke to take 5 wickets against a recent number 1 team after cancer. Dhoni might not play him because of personal reasons but he has done enough to get selected in the squad

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 6:49 GMT)

Borad should Schedule some First class 5 Days Matches like List A: Challenger Trophy ; In two or three team should play for each other and participation should be a must for all Indian National team players. How about a match between , current Indian Squad and Second best XI: (Probables): 1.Dhawan 2.Mukund 3.Rahane 4.Badrinath 5.Manoj Tewari 6.Robin Bisht 7.W.Saha/N.Ojha 8.Amit Mishra 9.I.Abdulla 10& 11 Ishant/Dinda/Mithun/Shami Ahmed/Vinay Kumar..ppl would love to watch and Selectors and Players will have real time assesment and complains:)

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

I dont expect England to win this series (although I would love to see it). I think it will most likely be a drawn series, however with the Indians out of sorts of late it only takes one slip. Good luck to both teams for the tests, looking forward to a hard fought series :)

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 6:39 GMT)

Best India XI but only for 1st test: 1.Sehwag,2.gambhir,3.Pujara,4.Tendulkar,5.Kohli,6.Yuvraj(IfFit)/Tewari,7.Dhoni,8.Ashwin,9.Ojha,10.Zaheer,11.Yadav;..There should be a close eye on Rahane, Tewari, Badri, Mukund , Dhawan and Robin Bisht; Bowlr: Ishant and Amit Mishra by giving maximum chances to bench stregth for Second test..leave Sewhwag and Gambhir if they will not perform in next 2 tests bcz they hasnt been performed since a long time..Tendulkar was Okay in Australia; Dhoni's performnce as a player should scruitniz, Naman Ojha, Saha are ready for Tests..INDIA should find 2-3 Genieun Pace Bowler, Should try Shami Ahmed, Mithun, Pankaj Singh, and can try Irfan for number 6/7 spot.

Posted by csr11 on (November 1, 2012, 5:26 GMT)

I am really hoping that the likes of Raina, Yuvraj and some of the other indian bats look at Cooks innings and learn from it.. this is in their own backyard.. They have to learn that batsmanship in test cricket is all about attrition, and the slow choke is a much more appropriate weapon than the heavy mace.. patience, grit more important than pomp and elegance.. As some of my fellow indian fans have said.. this is the time for the young brigade to focus, learn and build a test team.. India will start as underdogs

Posted by GRVJPR on (November 1, 2012, 4:43 GMT)

Brilliant performance by young and inexperienced INDIA - A to restrict england without spinners on a non-spinning track. Considering that england was a recent number 1 team (surpisingly) this is a good performance. It needed their tail ender Samit Patel (an Indian) to rescue them. Overall It's all India so far in this game. England finding it very very tough indeed

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 4:22 GMT)

The worst thing is that India A side contains players who are not going to play test except Mrs Suresh Dhoni,,,, Does anyone in this side who takes the sport seriously?? I have not seen anyone,, Viru, Gauti,,MSD, Raina, plays game as if they are doing big favour to the country,,,,

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 3:52 GMT)

All is well that ends well, however, the best in any player is reserved and is not on display in practice matches. I think the teams are evenly matched and am looking forward to a great test series. Not so concerned about who wins, but I would like to see great matches being played.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 3:30 GMT)

Beside cook century i think indian bowler done well . I think we shud nt wrry abt cook as Zak can always get a left handed bats when he want . So in all this is just preview of how this series gonna procede

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 3:16 GMT)

I would like to sir ravindra jadeja. i am sure, he will all out england in 2 overs. bowling figure 2 over, 2 maidens 11 wkts. ops! 10 wkts. India will trash englang. 100 %. if we open with vajji and greatest all rounder irfan pathan.

Posted by Rogerunionjack on (November 1, 2012, 3:14 GMT)

Decent job by our batsmen to be only four down at the end of the day, this is exactly the workout one would expect. Cook & Patel were sensible not to get carried away and match the Indian's run rate. This is a preparation for the the test series, no point in being over aggressive and losing wickets. We have two more warm ups for Bell, KP & co. to get in more practice. Our bowling is fine, we just need to pay attention to our batting. Finally to address some ridiculous comments from both sides - it doesn't matter what happened last year (4-0 in tests & 0-5 in ODIs) or even before, it's the present that counts.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 2:50 GMT)

@Cpt.Meanster Totally agree about the lack of need for trash talk. Its going to be an interesting series as two good, but flawed, teams who have had some recent slip ups both have a point to prove. Not sure that keeping England under 300 in a day is important, England are playing this like a test and I really don't think they were trying to force the pace, pretty much the prototype England innings is the top order scoring at a steady rate then Prior will come in and try to raise the run rate a bit.

Posted by RodStark on (November 1, 2012, 2:06 GMT)

One good thing that has come out of this game for England is that it may have helped with the selection issue. I've always wondered why Patel is considered mostly as a batting bowler for England when he is actually a bowling batsman. His innings here along with his last inings in the T20 suggests that his batting may finally have arrived at the international level, so he could well be the best candidate to bat at six and allow England to continue their 6-1-4 balance. Without Patel, that balance would have left England very vulnerable in what are likely to be hot, dry conditions. However, now it may be that Patel's batting gets him in as one of our top six, and we finally have what's been missing--batsmen who can help out with the bowling.

Should be a great series, and I really enjoy the intelligent comments I've seen from both sides.

Posted by   on (November 1, 2012, 1:53 GMT)

I think England team can beat India in India. Cook seems to be in great form and he is a fine player of spin. He started his career in India with a century. On the tour of Australia, Cook scored more than 700 runs. .....Indian bowling seems to be in a really bad shape. Bowling was the main reason, India lost first two tests in England - England's tail-enders scored lot of runs in first two tests. .....On the batting side, apart from Kohli, virtually everyone is seriously out of form - Sehwag, Gambhir, Tendulkar. Others like Pujara are too new and unknown. ......England did lose test against Pakistan, however, India has no one like Ajmal.

Posted by subbass on (November 1, 2012, 1:17 GMT)

Lots of talk about the Injuns setting a trap. Well that is a mark of respect in truth. Still the best I could see England doing is a 1-1 draw and there would probably have to be some weather involved for this score. But who knows, at some point England will win a series in India again. :p

Posted by maddy20 on (November 1, 2012, 1:14 GMT)

@Valavan I wonder how you missed the comments of bobmartin and juice of the apple. More often than not, its the English fans who thrashtalk on these forums. Also the three catches were dropped by the keeper. I would like you to rummage through the cricinfo forums and tell me when was the last time Dhoni dropped 3 catches in the same innings.

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 1, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

@JG2704 if Kp was not there and England won even the warm up there would have been many comments like " we could win without him and we absolutely don't need him " . And he fails in one Test match and there would be many calling for Kp's head .So it's not like comments come only from Kp lover faction . And regarding Morgan I still feel he would be a beter bet to come off in india than Bell. But Bell is an automatic selection and we wont see Morgan in the 1st test unless Trot opens . So lets see how Bell goes . Hope he fires and then there would be no need to talk about bringing anyone else .

Posted by jb633 on (November 1, 2012, 0:42 GMT)

@CptMeanster- I agree the trash talking from both sides is really dull and gives nothing to the reader. Would always rather read something insightful and that might actually be of interest.

Posted by Meety on (November 1, 2012, 0:15 GMT)

IMO (as I said on another article) - really hard to guage this match. I think England toiled hard on Day 1 being a bowler short & did not let India get away from them. Assuming the pitch was flat, it was then an outstanding effort. Day 2, I think England would be slightly worried that 3 key batsmen failed, but Patel stepping up will be a welcomed "headache" for selection purposes. The batting performance must be taken with a small grain of salt - as it would appear the Indian bowling wasn't overly menacing. Apart from the Turbanator (questionable though, whether he is over the hill?), though - I am not sure that there are any other trump cards that India's attack ahs - other than maybe a "dustbowl". So all things considered, I think England is building some momentum, I am not so sure that an Indian series win is as bankable as before. As an Ozzy - past experience says that India SHOULD win, but not sure that India have the goods anymore!

Posted by CoorparooMaverick on (November 1, 2012, 0:03 GMT)

a good effort from the SA reserves, pity their new boy made a duck, might need a few more nets in Natal before he is ready..

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 31, 2012, 23:21 GMT)

@bobmartin: Indians talk about spin because that's traditionally been our strength. Just as how England talk pleasantly about pace, swing and bounce etc. Speaking of thrashing, I do agree England beat India fair and square 4-0. However, that doesn't mean some English fans come here and talk trash about Indian cricketers. Our second string bowling attack managed to keep your front line batsmen down under 300 in a day's play and that too on a solid batting track. I think that begs some appreciation from you all.

Posted by jb633 on (October 31, 2012, 23:20 GMT)

@maddy20- seriously just let cricketers do the talking and save everyone the boring trash talk. Everyone knows that India are going into this series as huge favourites and that England struggle against spin. However your comments are embarassing as if you have forgotten the troubles India have been going through in the last few years. I enjoy watching Indian cricket but you must be honest with yourself that whilst you may win this series the holes appearing post IPL are to big to paper over with this trash talk. I am hoping for a good contest, expecting an Indian win, and praying our players will have learnt some lessons of how to play spin.

Posted by samincolumbia on (October 31, 2012, 23:18 GMT)

Cricinfo falied to mention that Saha dropped not one, but THREE simple catches. Two were off Yuvraj's bowling and the batsmen reprieved were Cook and Patel. If those catches were held, Cook would have been out in the eighties and England would have been all out at the end of the day!

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 31, 2012, 23:17 GMT)

@maddy20: Maddy, relax buddy. This is only a tour game. It's obvious India are setting a trap big enough to trap a mammoth. If I were an English fan, I wouldn't be overly excited at England's batting so far. In fact our second string bowlers kept them to under 300 in a day's play which is OUTSTANDING in my opinion. The remaining 2 tour games will also be played on similar 'ODI' pitches. This is by no means acclimatizing. Giving the English 3 rank turners and making them sweat it out is what's known as acclimatization. Still.. a good interesting tour game. I am just focussing on our Indian players. How the English players fare shouldn't be our concern.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 23:16 GMT)


Well the odd ton here and there for Indian batsmen in the midst of what can only be described as an appalling Indian team performance over the last 18 months has saved them from the axe - including lets be fair Sachin So why wouldn't Cook do it? DC, Bali

Posted by yorkshirematt on (October 31, 2012, 23:16 GMT)

@Akshita29 and JG As you'vo probably gathered i'm not a huge fan of Pietersen. @JG Yes it's nice to see the "england are nothing without KP he's their best player of spin" brigade are quiet for now

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 22:41 GMT)

any one can bet me on this - India will win 3-0, 1st test draw and remaining India will win

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 22:37 GMT)

So when England loose 4-0, cook can talk about this warm up ton as a saving grace to prolong his captaincy tenure:)

Posted by Valavan on (October 31, 2012, 22:34 GMT)

@maddy20, did you see if any england fan blowing here. are you showing some scary melodrama here. do you know india never was a brilliant fielding side, so a few more catches might be dropped in the real games, if and else cases is only applicable in schools, watch the game instead showing your ignorance because of being desperate. enjoy the game.

Posted by maddy20 on (October 31, 2012, 22:33 GMT)

@ bobmartin And you can bet your last GBP that India would not be blanked 2-0 by any visiting team including SA( let alone drub us for the largest margin between batting and bowling averages in the history of test cricket) . Besides after so many thrashings in the last one year starting with 3-0 in UAE, if England lose this 4-0, then they are better off playing tests with the associate nations! Unless rain intervenes the possibility of India thrashing England 4-0 drubbing is on the cards. ANd if you can talk about India's weakness against seam bowling then we sure as hell can talk about your weakness against spin, more so after the comedy show(AKA Eng vs Spin) we have treated the world to, in the T-20 worldcup!

Posted by bobmartin on (October 31, 2012, 21:54 GMT)

Spin .. spin... spin... You Indians talk more spin than Alistair Campbell did..If that's all you can offer..oh and of course Yuvraj cleaning up Pietersen... then I don't think I shall lose much sleep over England's chances... The trouble with you guys is you can't forget the thrashing we handed out on your England tour.. and one thing you can bet your last rupee on is that England won't be thrashed 4-0...Mark my words...

Posted by VillageBlacksmith on (October 31, 2012, 21:49 GMT)

Bell fails YET AGAIN... this has been an atrocious year for Bell, how does he keep his place??? especially against spin... ave 8 vs PAK in UAE and Peterson getting Jelly Belly out for fun vs RSA and now Yuvraj today... with Patel now looking better @ 6 Jelly Belly must be jettisoned in place of some backbone in the form of Morgan or Bairstow... ASAP

Posted by maddy20 on (October 31, 2012, 21:30 GMT)

@Juiceoftheapple England were 135-4 against a second string bowling attack , on a green wicket against a bowling attack which does not comprise of any frontline spinners. If not for the three Catches dropped(of Cook and Samit) by a rookie wicket keeper, The scoreboard would have read something like 250-7 or something, which would have been embarassing. Wait till Yuvi bowls alongside Ashwin and Ohja. You will then see which of the two sides is really "average".

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (October 31, 2012, 21:29 GMT)

Somebody talking about strikerate here.. What a non sense!!why england need to improve the strike rate in these practice matches..they are practising in our pitches for the real test matches which starts on nov15..

Posted by maddy20 on (October 31, 2012, 21:13 GMT)

@ Juiceoftheapple "I wouldnt play him against an attack like SA's but he seems well happy on subcontinental pitches against average bowlers." Forget Samit Patel,Wait and watch to see how long your top order batsmen last against our frontline bowlers. Yuvraj bowling his first spell in a million years managed to snaffle Bell and KP easily, on a "flat" wicket as was claimed by English fans yesterday. Unfortunately for you he is probably the only player from this India A that will make the cut to bowl alongside Ojha and Ashwin!

Posted by Juiceoftheapple on (October 31, 2012, 20:47 GMT)

Nice work by Patel. I wouldnt play him against an attack like SA's but he seems well happy on subcontinental pitches against average bowlers. Just hope the rest can adapt as well. Surely there is a way in for Onions in the England team, he was easily the bowler of the county season imo, wicket to wicket radar with just enough swing, he could be our Philander.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (October 31, 2012, 20:00 GMT)

This is the first match of a challenging tour. A result is not in prospect & there are too many personal agendas (staking claims to Test places in both teams) for this match to be regarded as much more than practice in the middle. It is an acclimatisation process as much as anything else. I'd like to see Cook retire overnight & Samit, should he reach his ton, can do the same. In two week's time, with the first Test underway, this outing will be no more than a footnote in the tour's progress:the breadstick to crunch before the waiter comes to take the order...

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (October 31, 2012, 19:59 GMT)

@Murali, each side negotiates the matches that it thinks that it needs with the home Board. Plenty of eyes were raised at India's lack of need for preparation, but it's the schedule that the BCCI requested. Accepted now that most sides want shorter tours, but the typical thing was to offer as many as four First Class matches before the 1st Test: there is no shortage of counties willing to host popular tourists like Australia and India. I'm pleased with the start. It makes some of the comments made yesterday look pretty silly. England bowled with just 3 front-line bowlers and a batsman who bowls, so restricting India A to 369 on an obviously flat pitch was not a bad effort: better to have a hard workout and earn wickets than have a side that rolls over and no one can say that India A were not motivated and realistic opposition... at least with the bat. The nice scenario for England would be a declaration in mid-afternoon with a decent lead and to knock over a few wickets.

Posted by Akshita29 on (October 31, 2012, 19:09 GMT)

@Selassie-I thanks for pointing out my mistake . I got the stats messed up . I sincerely apologize for my mistake . But still I feel Bell is weak against spin . Anyways he would be an automatic selection in the 1st test . So we will get to know how good he is actually. I cant wait for the series to start . I hope England really perform well in the series and hoping to See some firework from KP . KP need to play out yuvraj or any other left arm spinner and he would be okay ..

Posted by GRVJPR on (October 31, 2012, 18:41 GMT)

For all those who are criticizing Indian selectors for not fielding front line spinners against england will get their answer on 15 november. I bet you, england batsmen might have spend time on crease here, they won't spend much when real test match starts

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 18:34 GMT)

@Murali Krishna on (October 31 2012, 15:47 PM GMT) Was it definitely ECB who only allowed one practice match. Personally I think the Indian players were so confident it bordered (maybe crossed that border) on complacency and felt they only needed 1 warm up match. 2 or 3 matches is the norm

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 18:20 GMT)

@Akshita29 on (October 31 2012, 14:47 PM GMT) Yes because Morgan looked magnificent against spin in UAE and has been knocking really hard on the door in our domestic 2012.

Posted by 10Devils on (October 31, 2012, 18:00 GMT)

Be positive!! guys! India will win 2-0. Have faith , don't doubt on their ability.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 31, 2012, 17:54 GMT)

@subbass: Agree but don't get carried away. This is nothing more than a trap set by the Indians. 3 tour games on batting tracks and BOOM, the first test on a rank turner. England could be caught with their pants down. But England are still a better team in test cricket so it will be interesting how they handle every situation thrown at them. I am already looking forward to the limited overs leg of this tour because India are miles better than England in ODIs and being world champions and all it's a no brainer. But the test team is a different story.

Posted by Cpt.Meanster on (October 31, 2012, 17:51 GMT)

Well played Cook and Samit. Samit must play in that first test as ONE of the spinners. Plus, he can bat at 6 or 7 which is a valuable thing to have. Over all I am happy with the performances of both sides. India A batted well and bowled decently well. To keep England to below 300 for the whole day without any real spinners is a PRETTY GOOD job. It's only a 3 day game. I expect England to declare at some point and put the Indians in so that the English quicks can have some practice on what's a good batting wicket. I seriously can't see similar pitches during the actual test series because this could be a tactical move by the Indians to mislead England. I expect some turners throughout the series because this time MS Dhoni was very vocal about it.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 17:34 GMT)

Somnedy remind Murali Krishna that this is a 3 day practice game. If Cook makes a big hundred at a s/r of 44 that is excellent preparation for the test matches where such a score might enable England to bat only once and win by an innings. Somebody also remind him that with England 4 down for 133 it would have been very silly for Cook to increase his strike rate and maybe soon be rejoining his team-mates in the pavlion.

Posted by Yevghenny on (October 31, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

India say they had a flat track for their warm up, well Somerset bowled them out and could have enforced a follow on!

Posted by Selassie-I on (October 31, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

Posted by Akshita29 on (October 31 2012, 14:47 PM GMT) I'm afraid Ian Bell has scored 100s in both Pakistan and Bangladesh, has good averages in these places and not aweful in SL. He had a torrid time in India last time although that was 5 years ago and he's a different player mentaly now (With the Mumbai attacks ont he last visit and the team going home etc. I would forgive him for not being in the right mental place) He's one of the best batsmen around at the moment and he spanked India in England last year so i'd take him 100%! No chance i'd be taking an inexperienced player who's never performed in tests (other than once)(and the longer form of the game, even at 1st class level) over a player who averages nearly 50 and has toured everywhere over the world in 80 tests!

Posted by subbass on (October 31, 2012, 16:58 GMT)

Very happy with the start. England already playing miles better than India did when they toured England, got a feeling Cookie is gonna score heaps of runs - as the Aussies would say - seems the type to lead from the front.

Posted by warneneverchuck on (October 31, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

2-0 my prediction now guys guess which team will win 2 Tests upto u guys

Posted by S-A-M-1994 on (October 31, 2012, 16:10 GMT)

for sure future of india's cricket Looks bleak oH poor india

Posted by Sanawana on (October 31, 2012, 15:48 GMT)

I'm a neutral fan from Pak and these are my observations. India WILL go with Yuvraj because they need to contain KP and cash on his vulnerability against left arm spinners. I'll say Finn and Broad have a major impact and they being missing out must have allowed India A to score that many runs but even if they had restricted them to say under 300, the score would have been good enough for India considering they will play with R. Ashwin on turning pitches in the real matches. England should play Morgan in Compton's place! he's not an opener?? well this is subcontinent. I'll say India is the favorite unless KP does not strengthen his weakness or Trott and Bell do not start making big scores!

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 15:47 GMT)

3 practice matches r too many why did bcci agreed to this while india played 1 match only

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 15:42 GMT)

somebody remind cook that it is 3 days match come on sr 44

Posted by sheldor17 on (October 31, 2012, 15:37 GMT)

well said navinkumar....the guy is none other than suresh raina.

Posted by InsideHedge on (October 31, 2012, 15:23 GMT)

@Shyam Pushpanath: I have to agree with your analysis. It's pretty obvious that India is relying on rank turners, a flawed strategy in itself. I remember after India's tour to NZ in 2002/3 where we were presented with the greenest wickets seen in NZ, the Indian players wrongly assumed that on NZ's return to India, they would face deadly, unprepared wickets offering nothing but hazardous turn. Instead, what we got was THREE consecutive dead, dull, boring draws played on the flattest wickets imaginable. One of those Tests was played at Ahmedabad, the venue of the 1st Test in this series. There's also a Test slated at Nagpur, another notorious flat track. There's an assumption that the groundsmen will be preparing what the players want, and history shows this isn't always the case.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

Daddy Hundred, he will never score fast atleast in the flat tracks

Posted by bigdhonifan on (October 31, 2012, 15:14 GMT)

Batting track and No spinners... England is still not realizing that this is a trap.... Wait and see 1st test match will be a turning track with 3 spinners.

Posted by Charlie101 on (October 31, 2012, 15:04 GMT)

I do feel if England bats carefully and does not try and dominate and score at 4 plus an over we will be able to cope against the Indian spin attack come the first test. Get rid of the stupid careless shots and grind the runs out .

Posted by Akshita29 on (October 31, 2012, 14:47 GMT)

@yorkshirematt Kp never scores in a warm up match . His weakness against yuvi is a bit of concern though. He should look to not to attack the left arm spinners much but his ego wont allow it so it would be an exciting contest for kp against the spinners. So plz wait till the 1st test atleast before making any skeptical remarks about his return. I would say bell should make way for Morgan. Because if you look the stats he is abysmal against spinners . Have never scored even a century in the subcontinent and may b 2 half centuries in totol. Morgan is a better bet .

Posted by i_witnessed_2011 on (October 31, 2012, 14:46 GMT)

At one hand todays score shows depth of fast bowling resources for India. We can call Zaheer a spent force, Ishant and Sreesant have been given undesering chances. But it looks like they are the best in the small pool available. On the other hand, If Engalnd struggles (at one stage) against spin bolwling of Raina and yuvraj then they will have serious problem against quality spin bowling of India in coming tests. But at the end of day, It is more sad to see quality of fast (? or medium pace) bowling of India.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 14:43 GMT)

@Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_Selfishkar on (October 31 2012, 13:02 PM GMT) Daft comment there. Why do we need to score at a higher RR in a warm up game and don't forget this is our 1st match of the tour so A - Our batsmen are very used to the batting conditions and B - Your bowlers are more used to bowling conditions. If we can match/overtake the A side's score , it will be a fair start for us IMO.

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

@yorkshirematt on (October 31 2012, 12:11 PM GMT) To be fair it is just a warm up game and he still scored better than Compton and Bell - however I wonder how many fans would have said "You can't play without KP" if he had scored a ton?

Posted by JG2704 on (October 31, 2012, 14:42 GMT)

After being 133-4 , I'm quite happy with today's play. While it would be nice to score at a faster rate it's not the be all and end all. Well done Patel and Cook. Disappointed for Nick but hopefully he'll get a run

Posted by mikey76 on (October 31, 2012, 14:36 GMT)

Love all the premature comments about England's so called ineptness. First match of a tour. There is gonna be some ring rust. Hopefully we'll build a nice lead and give Swann some overs on wearing pitch. Patel will cause a conundrum now, horrible bowling but good batting. Who'd be a selector.

Posted by Solid_Snake on (October 31, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

Cook played really well against Pakistan recent test matches. Dont take England team lightly.India might need to reconsider about preparing totally Spin friendly pitches.England got Swann who hiim self is a big headache.Dont know if Monty Panesar is also playing or not.He too is a deadly spinner.Hope for a good series

Posted by NavinKumar on (October 31, 2012, 14:01 GMT)

What is the role of P.Awana in this match? He is an upcoming fast bowler. It might have been better had he bowled some more overs (8 in 87, and bowling at 5, after Yuvi and others) against the international batsmen.

How are we going groom players like him? It appears some people wanted to get the No 6 slot by showing all-round skills.

Posted by GRVJPR on (October 31, 2012, 13:52 GMT)

India has arguably the best bowler to left hander in world Zaheer Khan. It is likely that he will get Cook out early and then it will be Indians who will cook some english curry with their spin attack

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 13:48 GMT)

The weak explanation given by the selectors not to include a specialist spinner to play this game, i.e. not wanting to give England a sighter of the "trial by spin" that awaits them, just does not wash. There are plenty of Indian spinners on the fringe of the Indian team e.g. Rahul Sharma who would have added increased venom to this pace bowling attack without serving as an audition for the English batsmen. Case in point is that 3 of the 4 wickets to fall so far have fallen to the part-time spin of Yuvraj Singh and Suresh Raina. Now, the English will gain valuable batting momentum whereas they could have easily been put under the cosh from Day 1 of this tour. Opportunity missesd - massive oversight!

Posted by Arrow011 on (October 31, 2012, 13:46 GMT)

Already 2 part time spinners have accounted for 3 of 4 wickets shows what frontline spinners can do to England. Yuvraj is a must at No. 6 for Indian test eleven, even if he fails he can spin & get KP's wicket for sure. Just for KP's cheap dismissals Yuvraj should be in the 11.

Posted by big_al_81 on (October 31, 2012, 13:44 GMT)

Spin trap? Yawn, yawn, yawn. When India have some really good quality spinners again there might be a 'spin trap' but if England fail to give a good account of themselves on this tour it won't be because of brilliant opposition bowling but hapless England batting. That's entirely possible with the disappointing year England have had but if dull comments on the perils of spin are all we have to look forward to over the next few weeks it'll be a shame. I hope we see a competitive series won by good performances rather than lost by inept ones...

Posted by MandarSathe on (October 31, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

This is called a 'good performance' in warm match....Didn't watch it but I guess Cook should have been a picture of bat out whole day is amazing and best possible practice...... Compare this to a session or two's batting by Indian Test hopeful and media calling headlines like 'staking claims for no.6 slot'....based on half centuries...... I hope selectors don't get sucked in to these claims...... and moreover hope Rohit or some other youngster plays a long long innings like Cook's innings in next few games leading upto the Tests to really stake any claim for no.6 slot..... One thing is for sure Raina has lost that spot... so the spot is definitely up for grabs..... my bet wud be Yuvi primarily due to his double hundred inning recently....

Posted by CricketMaan on (October 31, 2012, 13:38 GMT)

Loads of preditcable events. Cook scoring 100 may be BIG DADDY!!, KP succumb to left arm (no matter who bowls), an player struggling to hold on to his place in first XI(Samit today) goes on to make history and a permenanet spot against India, Indian trundlers (so called next in line) huff and puff for nothing..and a lot more to come tomorrow!!

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (October 31, 2012, 13:37 GMT)

it's not altogether unsurprising that Cook made a ton,or that KP got out to Yuvray-I do not think he gets out to really top leftarmers,and Yuvraj is not that. Less expected though patel 's 82*- an early bid for that no.6 position?

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 13:28 GMT)

3 wickets to part time spinners??

Posted by Damo_s on (October 31, 2012, 13:25 GMT)

Yes one feels that cooks form will probably determine whether England get totally thumped or manage to get at least 1 result somewhere. England have always done well when the guy at the top manages to bat through. I still say doom though. Not sure why the Indian fans keep going on about how we are going to face a spin barrage. we know that. everyone knows we arent much good against spin. stop banging on about it. no one cares. I just hope we put in a better performance than last time we were there.

Posted by TomCalder on (October 31, 2012, 13:22 GMT)

40 wickets in 3 days? Surprised this wasn't a 15v15 game with batters batting and a few more bowlers given a run out. Not sure why Root wasn't given a chance as he is a natural opener and would be a sensible replacement. Finn is a concern though

Posted by PACERONE on (October 31, 2012, 13:13 GMT)

Looks like Cook is the one giving support to Patel.Good to see Patel performing.He will not get too many chance if he does not perform well.There will be an excuse to drop him.

Posted by vrn59 on (October 31, 2012, 13:11 GMT)

Cook and Trott's form is good news for England! Samit Patel batted really well: he's making a real case for the No. 6 / No. 7 spot. Compton's duck would have resulted in a loss of confidence, but he'll be hoping to score some runs in the next two warm-up matches to cement his place in the Test XI ahead of Root. My ENG XI: Cook (C), Compton, Trott, Pietersen, Bell, Prior (wk), Patel, Broad, Swann, Anderson, Panesar. I might have considered Finn if he was fit and available, but he's not. Anderson and Broad are an established new-ball pair who have both had success in the UAE and Sri Lanka earlier this year. Swann is one of the best spinners in the world, and Panesar bowled fantastically in the UAE and has a good record against India. Patel can provide some backup in the bowling department as well. He is a good No. 7 batsman too as he has shown today, although he batted one position higher than that. This English side actually looks quite good! Depends on how they tackle spin though ...

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (October 31, 2012, 13:07 GMT)

Cook shows his quality in India, hopefully he won't succumb to the captains run-making curse that blighted Strauss's captaincy.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas_Atheist on (October 31, 2012, 13:02 GMT)

While this India A bowling unit is not expected to do wonders, what's the matter with the Brits scoring at 3 an over for the whole day? I thought that was very slow against this bowling attack. Day 1 and day 2 both clearly won by India A.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:58 GMT)

This seems to a good batting practice for English batsmen! Rather than facing good spinners like piyush chawla, amit mishra and getting out cheaply with hardly any time in the middle, English batsmen are getting to face part-time slow spinners like yuvraj singh and suresh raina and fast spinners like irfan pathan and vinay kuma who will allow them enough time to gauge the wickets.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:57 GMT)

well payed cook :) although you made century but there is spin department . if we are talking about other player they are trap by part time spinners . its not down under but its a tour of india :) this time indian selector are playing crucial role in the series , its a big question for them that who are in or who are waiting for their chance .

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:56 GMT)

Bell is the one player that worries me. He looks brilliant against pace but he is a little stiff and angular against spin. KP will not be a major force in this series, he is Englands 3rd or 4th best player of spin these days. Cooke and Trott are 1 and 2, and the stats in tests over the years, Compton is also excellent and also Prior. But Bell..I'm not sure at all about Bell and spin.

Posted by Selassie-I on (October 31, 2012, 12:55 GMT)

Looks like we might have to play patel as he can actually bat against spin!

Posted by Valavan on (October 31, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

How dare Cook scores a 100 in india? Shouldnt he struggle for indian spinners and humid climate. as Joyal Augustine said, spin trap awaits England, India is going to thrash England, England cant handle Ojha and Ashwin (both have already in the leagues of Warne and Murali), Zaheer will show how to move the ball in dry conditions, Sehwag, Kohli will score big hundreds (mostly they score now with their mouths), did i miss anything here that shows England is worst and India is best. Funny comments, but i keep supporting Cook and Co nevertheless. Hope other batters play sensible in other warm ups and get used to conditions. cricinfo please publish.

Posted by roarster on (October 31, 2012, 12:54 GMT)

The Piechucker Strikes Back!

Posted by jb633 on (October 31, 2012, 12:44 GMT)

@Joyal Augustine- it can hardly be called a trap when everyone in this world knows whats coming

Posted by RednWhiteArmy on (October 31, 2012, 12:41 GMT)

India are too old to win this series

Posted by rahulcricket007 on (October 31, 2012, 12:38 GMT)

even in bowling yuvraj has proved better than suresh raina . although i won 't be surprised if dhoni picks raina in team .we all know there are players like jadeja , rohit sharma , vinay kumar , raina who gets many chances as they want .

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:30 GMT)

India have already inferred that they will be preparing different pitches for the test so I am not sure how much these warm up matches will tell us

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:28 GMT)

yuvi vs raina..??????/ best for no.6???????

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:19 GMT)

I'd have to agree with Joyal. Interesting to see that England warmed up against the only team in the subcontinent without a spinner. A nice draw wicket too....

Posted by Rajesh_india_1990 on (October 31, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

Cook played well for his century..but his serious threat will be ashwin...

Posted by yorkshirematt on (October 31, 2012, 12:11 GMT)

A fine return for the "great" KP. A quick, and completely useless 23, before, surprise surprise falling to a left arm spinner. And a part time one at that.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 12:10 GMT)

england where patchy....india scored in brisk space........they cannot even handle the spin of raina or yuvraj

Posted by i_witnessed_2011 on (October 31, 2012, 12:07 GMT)

At one hand todays score shows depth of fast bowling resources for India. We can call Zaheer a spent force, Ishant and Sreesant have been given undesering chances. But it looks like they are the best in the small pool available. On the other hand, If Engalnd struggles (at one stage) against spin bolwling of Raina and yuvraj then they will have serious problem against quality spin bowling of India in coming tests. But at the end of day, It is more sad to see quality of fast (? or medium pace) bowling of India.

Posted by nthuq on (October 31, 2012, 12:03 GMT)

Cook is looking in good form, he'll need to lead from the top for England to have a chance. A pity we won't get a result out of this game bar some incredibly hopeless batting.

Posted by   on (October 31, 2012, 11:59 GMT)

Spin trap awaits England.

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