England in India 2012-13

Broad can't go on being 'promising'

Having played for England since his was 20, Stuart Broad is now at a crossroads and needs to fulfil his potential or remain a perennial prospect

George Dobell

November 21, 2012

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Stuart Broad was among the England bowlers to suffer, England v India, World Twenty20, Group A, Colombo
Despite his poor run of form, being appointed Twenty20 captain and recently Test vice-captain suggests England believe in Stuart Broad © Getty Images
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Which seam bowler has taken the most Test wickets in world cricket this calendar year? And which seam bowler has the best match figures in a Test this year? Who was England's Man of the Series the last time they played India and who claimed the best innings and match figures of their Test career only a few months ago?

The answer to all these questions is Stuart Broad. Not only that, but Broad has a Test century and nine Test half-centuries to his name and his batting once moved Geoffrey Boycott to say: "There's a bit of Sobers in him."

So it might be somewhat surprising that some, including former England captain Sir Ian Botham, are calling for Broad to be dropped. But, after a disappointing performance in the first Test at Ahmedabad, there appears to be a growing number feeling that Broad has become just a little complacent in the England team and could do with a wake-up call. Such a reminder was administered by Twitter users, in response to whom Broad launched a rebuttal.

Broad was out-bowled by both Indian seamers, Zaheer Khan and Umesh Yadav, in Ahmedabad. He looked to have lost some pace and, as a consequence, lacked the potency to strike on pitches offering little. But most concerning was the impression that Ahmedabad was not a one-off poor game. Broad also struggled against South Africa, finishing the series with a bowling average of 39.72 and, despite showing rich promise with the bat when scoring 169 against Pakistan at Lord's in 2010, he has made only one half-century this year. Since June, his bowling average is 48.54 and his batting average is 14.

But the picture with Broad is far from black and white. While his recent form may be disappointing, his overall record is still good. And, aged 26, he should still have his best years in front of him. It is worth remembering, too, that until the South Africa series, Broad looked to be developing well. A hat-trick against India at Nottingham in 2011 had inspired the best form of his career. He bowled beautifully in the UAE.

Part of Broad's problem is that he promised so much. Fast-tracked into England's limited-overs team after just six List A appearances, Broad has been playing for England since he was 20 years old. He was elevated to the Twenty20 captaincy in 2011 and, at the start of this tour, was named as vice-captain of the Test squad. There are those who believe promotion came too easy for Broad. There are those who think reward preceded achievement. That he has never known the motivating power of being excluded. That a period out of the team would provide just the impetus he requires.

It is true that such a tactic has worked in the past. Matt Prior and Andrew Strauss were both dropped and used the pain of omission to drive them to make improvements in their game. The same could be said for former greats such as Graham Gooch and David Gower.

But there is equal evidence to suggest that continuity of selection brings rewards. Towards the end of the 2010 England season, Alastair Cook looked out of form and confidence and was struggling to justify his retention. The selectors maintained faith and Cook repaid them with a prolific Ashes series. He has hardly looked back.

Injury to Steven Finn, who is set to continue his rehabilitation by playing for the Performance Programme side next week, may well mean a reprieve for Broad in Mumbai. But, even if Finn had been fit, England would be loathe to drop Broad. It is not just that they have a naturally conservative selection policy and a new captain who, understandably, may be keen to avoid souring the relationship with his right-hand man; it is that England believe in Broad.

He was, after all, the man that produced the key burst at The Oval to clinch the Ashes in 2009 and produced the series-defining spell against India at Trent Bridge in 2011. Nor are there many obviously better cricketers than him in the county game: between 2009 and 2011, Broad played only six Championship matches, but claimed four five-wicket hauls, taking 37 wickets at 21.32. Broad's talent is not questioned, but England are not currently maximising it.

It is possible the pitch in Mumbai may suit him a little more. But, while its reputation suggests it will offer a little more bounce, it has been used previously, at the start of November, for a Ranji Trophy match in which Sachin Tendulkar scored a century. All the signs suggest the spinners will be to the forefront once again.

In time, we may come to see Broad as a victim of England's schedule. It may be that he and his fellow seamers are simply weary. Broad, in particular, plays all three formats of the game and, though he has been rested and missed games through injury, has appeared jaded in recent times. All the games and, just as importantly, all the training, may be taking their toll. International cricket is becoming a squad game and fast bowlers, especially, may require rotation.

Either way, Broad is now at a crossroads. He still has time to fulfil his potential but should be aware of other prodigiously talented allrounders - the likes of Chris Lewis - who remained promising for their entire careers. It is hard to escape the conclusion that time is running out.

George Dobell is a senior correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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Posted by hhillbumper on (November 23, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

I really thought Broad would go on to be a great player but at this point he just has not done it abroad. He is looking dangerously like this generations Chris Lewis, great potential but never fulfilled. Maybe it is time for someone else to have a go. Just lets not have another saffer shall we

Posted by R_U_4_REAL_NICK on (November 23, 2012, 12:14 GMT)

People say that stats don't lie... blah blah blah - so if you go by the first two paragraphs, Broad's the best bowler in the world now huh? Well sorry, but I think there's more to bowling than this, and Broad has been off the boil for the best part of this year. You need wickets in test cricket, and Broad just aint getting any of late; he's supposed to be able to bat a little as well, and he hasn't added anything of note for ages. England need to stop picking players on promise and try new tricks like Woakes and/or three spinners for Asian tracks. Where is Tredwell for example? He bowled beautifully in earlier series.

Posted by Sanjiyan on (November 23, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

Broad is overrated, his pace is little more than a medium pacer and as soon as things arent going his way he throws his toys out of his cot. He can be decent when hes on song but overall hes below average imo. Drop him, forget him and move on. When he's taking bags of wickets in county cricket then,and only then, should he be reconsidered. Its amazing how badly one has to perform to be dropped from the english team. If he was playing for any other country in the world, he would have been dropped 2 years ago...

Posted by BG4cricket on (November 22, 2012, 22:14 GMT)

PS - after watching the Aussies dismantle the SA bowlers twice with ease I would be very nervous about holding on to the Ashes next year

Posted by BG4cricket on (November 22, 2012, 22:12 GMT)

Broad has been average and down on form but so have most of his teammates. In 12 Tests this year only 1 batsman averages over 40 (Cook) with the next best being Prior at 7. With the ball all of the front line bowlers average over 30. In short most of them have been a long way below their best and it shows little sign of changing based on the evidence of 2012. Injuries to Finn and Tremlett have taken away options too and there are too many bits and pieces players there at the moment. If England are to compete here they need to bring in Bairstow for Bell, Monty for Bresnan and Morgan for Patel. The specialists should then be told to perform and do their jobs. England only need 2 seamers and 2 quality spinners and use KP and Trott for the rest if needed while this top 6 might be able to post a score - Patel is a no 8 at best and not a Test spinner.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 22, 2012, 21:20 GMT)

@Hardy1, sadly Chris Tremlett is unlikely to be considered again, in the same way that Simon Jones was not. He would have been an interesting weapon with his height. The nearest like-for-like would be someone like Reece Topley.

Posted by cricketcricket1987 on (November 22, 2012, 17:26 GMT)

I think everyone can agree that Broad performaces the last few months have not been up to his high standards but every cricketer that has ever played the game has suffered lapses in form. England didn't lose the first test match because Broad bowled badly, they lost the test because Panesar did not play and the batsmen could not handle the first innings pressure. Broad is a genuine number 7 batsmen and being giving some more responsibility with the bat will no doubt raise his performance levels with the ball too. Anderson and Broad were unbelievably good in the UAE and should they get a chance to bowl on a surface which has the slightest hint of any life, they'll rip through the flat track bullies of India.

Posted by Yevghenny on (November 22, 2012, 13:41 GMT)

Broad should not be t20 captain, is not a leader. His bowling is incredibly inconsistent. He can take wickets, but how expensive are they?

Posted by Narkovian on (November 22, 2012, 12:32 GMT)

I agree with some others. Broad has occasional flashes , but is basically over-rated. batting has gone to peieces, and bowling now down on pace and ineffective. Not to mention his volatile and at times unacceptable temperament. N

Posted by Tigg on (November 22, 2012, 11:11 GMT)

Broad gets wickets because of Swann and Anderson (or Tremlett when fit). They build pressure, Broad bangs one in short and wide and it gets hit to a fielder.

He's never been potent if they've struggled.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (November 22, 2012, 11:01 GMT)

I am in the same camp as those who is disappointed with Broad's progress especially with the bat. Remember his early days in the ODI squad...the partnership with Bopara to beat India? He used to hit 50s, 60s early in his test career but lately has been very disappointed and I see Woakes as the better option atm. I used to say Woakes was a poor man's version of Broad and Bresnan but he's starting to put his name in the hat for the #8 spot.

Posted by   on (November 22, 2012, 6:31 GMT)

Broad is an over-rated cricketer. Apart from having limited skills, where he scores least is having a poor temperament. For all those who have faith him, lets just say he will flatter to deceive. Hope he proves me wrong.

Posted by jmcilhinney on (November 22, 2012, 6:23 GMT)

It's fairly obvious to everyone that Broad has been generally down on pace for a while now. He and the rest of the England team and staff deny it but you can never trust that what's said in interviews and press conferences is what they really think. They need to be investigating and trying to rectify that. The same goes for Bresnan. They were both a bit inconsistent with their line and length in Ahmedabad but if they can both get back up to around the 140 mark then they'll be dangerous again. If their respective injuries and surgeries have made that impossible then they're both likely in for more pain. Even with the bowling troubles though, it's worth noting that England could well have won games 2 and 3 against SA and given up less than a 100 run lead against India if they could catch the ball. They're creating enough chances against new batsmen but are having more trouble against set batsmen, where the extra pace may previously have been the difference.

Posted by   on (November 22, 2012, 6:15 GMT)

His problem is that of arrogance. Just look at his twitter message. He should never have been, not ready to be given captaincy. He was a developing young cricketer with a chip on his shoulder. He has all his old man's arrogance about him. Drop him or anyone who cannot perform. Let them go back to the drawing board and back to basics. Prove themselves and only then should the stupid selectors consider them suitable. You need a decent set of selectors too. Forget the old tie brigade.

Posted by JustIPL on (November 22, 2012, 5:35 GMT)

It is Broad phobia actually. England should remain consistent in selection policies despite that fact that pitches are being doctored openly. It is not fair to compare Broad with the likes of Yadav and Zaheer. Lot of psychological pressure was already put by the media by promoting a slow and low wicket and later on India got the first use of pitch, their openers survived the slowness of pitch and Broad toiled a little bit. Zak and Umesh found batsmen under pressure and got some advantage. Therefore, there is not much evidence to drop the Golden boy of English cricket. With this England have Broad, Bresnan, Swann able to score 50-100 runs among themselved England can actually play Meaker as well in place of Patel with no Monty needed at all.

Posted by abbyk2 on (November 22, 2012, 4:31 GMT)

The England management are to blame for not giving Stuart Broad more responsability by putting him up the order. They still underate his batting. He is a front line bowler who bats a little according to the England seclectors.He should be batting ahead of Prior and told he has the ability to score 50 plus in at least one innings out of three. He just bats too far down the order hence he bats like a tailender.He has the ability to become a great allrounder. The selectors and captain have failed to get the best out of him.

Posted by trav29 on (November 22, 2012, 3:36 GMT)

would this over-rated weak link that everyone is talking about be the same stuart broad who has been england's top wicket taker in 4 of the last 5 series he took part in , the only one he wasn't was away to sri lanka where he only played in one of the two tests because of injury

unbelievable so many negative comments based on stuart broad the person rather than stuart broad the cricketer and completely ignoring what he has actually done on the cricket field

Posted by Rahulbose on (November 22, 2012, 2:48 GMT)

Some revisionist history in that article. Broad was not picked early in his career based on performance, unless getting caned for 6 sixes is a sign of a quality bowler. Early on he was very average. He did have a good run during the ashes and subsequent series played in Eng. His batting has never been good in sub-continent type pitches although he has bowled some decent spells on such tracks.

Posted by jackiethepen on (November 22, 2012, 2:18 GMT)

Why not run through the whole England team and ask for them all to be dropped apart from Cook and Prior? Cook really didn't end the summer well so there was an opportunity to consider him as well. There is such a feeling of negativity in the media that it is like a heavy blanket of cloud. The truth is that the England bowlers lacked sparkle against SA and it has not improved. It isn't only Broad. But if there is a malaise in the camp there is usually a deeper reason. Having a new captain with new blood coming in should make a difference but the coach seems tired and is making mistakes. The row with KP may have taken its toll. After all Strauss couldn't take any more. I wouldn't be surprised if Flower doesn't think the England job has become too stressful. The media are on the attack in one way or another every day. Even when we were winning triumphantly in 2011 against Sri Lanka and India, the team was told by the media that they had won against weak sides. No praise when you win.

Posted by phoenixsteve on (November 22, 2012, 1:18 GMT)

It's hard to know WHY Broad is down in pac? I rate the guy but maybe it's time he was rested - a reminder of selection mortality. My XI to face India in the second test would be; Cook, Compton, Trott, KP, Morgan, Patel, Prior, Swann, Onions, Anderson and Panesar. This Indian side is 'average' (at best) and we should be beating them with ease..... COME ON ENGLAND!!!

Posted by Hardy1 on (November 22, 2012, 1:13 GMT)

Tremlett's injury problems have been such a shame as well. Seems to me like England's reserves of Finn, Tremlett & Onions could probably do a better job than the starting 3 seamers! That said Panesar should play the next match really.

Posted by Hardy1 on (November 22, 2012, 1:02 GMT)

Steven Finn just has to be the first bowler on the teamsheet. Broad, Bresnan & Anderson are struggling a bit & England also have Onions who could come in, but not playing Finn is just criminal. Cook-Prior-Finn-Swann (although the last has been having a bit of trouble lately) is still a very good base to build your team around & they should be the first names on the team sheet. You worry about the rest later, no matter if they're vice-captains or have relatives in cricket ala Broad.

Posted by mush112 on (November 22, 2012, 0:28 GMT)

Why not Anderson sitting out??? he is of no use wen there is no swing...he is hardly lethal in Indian pitches and abt Broad why have we forgotten the second innings of second test against South Africa!!! Broad is much useful bowler than Anderson!!1

Posted by attilathecricketer on (November 22, 2012, 0:24 GMT)

Broad has done well and certainly far more consistently than the likes of Lewis. To me he has fulfilled expectations and will rightly be considered one of our better allrounders in history but I despair of his attitude and aggression. He should be dropped when not in form as at present. Hoggard was cast aside after one bad test. Give Finn or Onions a go.

Posted by yesfan94 on (November 22, 2012, 0:09 GMT)

Broad has had a good time in the team and yes his performance may not have been up to scratch recently but to be fair the performance of many of the team hasn't been the best since they became no.1 which led to their loss of the top spot maybe it is their large fixtures list they have and they just need a break. Basically why focus on one player when the whole team is having problems at the moment. To be fair I do quite like Broad in the team him and Jimmy make a good strong bowling line-up as well as the other pace bowlers they decide on and then Swann in for spin.

Posted by VillageBlacksmith on (November 21, 2012, 23:53 GMT)

When he can only get ponting and his hapless mates out one realizes how broad has dropped off in all parts of his game... He has been coasting and possibly doing a bit too much politicking over the last year & needs a spell on the sidelines to wake up and refocus.

Posted by RICK69 on (November 21, 2012, 23:44 GMT)

Broad is better on Twitter than he is at Test cricket.

Posted by shillingsworth on (November 21, 2012, 23:11 GMT)

@Barry Glynn - On what basis do you brand Finn a 'sick note'? These are the first tests that he has missed through injury since he made his debut over 2 years ago. In the same period, Broad has missed 4 tests and Anderson one. Your comments are hardly justified.

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 22:42 GMT)

What Indian bowlers faced in England is what Broad is facing in India. They are only good in their own countries as they are not used to the pitches in India. The best bowlers would be able to provide the positive results regardless of where and what conditions they bowl. T20 format he was clearly not at his best as he had given up 6 sixes against Yuvi. That tell it all

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 22:41 GMT)

England should hire Lennie Pascoe to sort out Broad. With Lennie as his personal coach, Broad would quickly learn the value of buckling down and respectful manners.

Posted by Mitcher on (November 21, 2012, 22:29 GMT)

Wasn't this to be the best England side ever? In fact, one of THE best sides of all time? Oh well... maybe next time...

Posted by yorkslanka on (November 21, 2012, 22:25 GMT)

imho broad really is the weak link in this engalnd bowling attaack and has been for some 12 months now..he should not be in the team and seems to be only there due to being vc. I would have had onions in his place instead as a bowler who has always perfomed when given the chance...good job i'm not on twitter or i might get a response from mr broad...

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 21, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

@clarke501, more to the point it is also probably libelous, which makes one wonder how the comment got through moderation. However, not withstanding such issues, I can only agree with the article. Stuart Broad has as much talent as any bowler in world cricket and could be batting at 7 and taking a bucketload of wickets. He has got a bit lazy and a bit complacent and probably requires his dad to apply a powerful impulse to his gluteous maximus. He has to run in fast and hard, bowl straight and apply control, using the short ball just occasionally as a shock weapon. His rebuttal to Ian Botham is not even entirely accurate. Who was it who scored a century and took 13 wickets to win the Golden Jubilee Test in India? Only a one-Test series, but...

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 22:10 GMT)

Broad has been down on pace for a year now, it's not a recent thing. His batting has always flattered to deceive. As for his 169, well there was a lot of funny things going on that summer. No point talking about Finn because he is another sicknote unfortunately like most of our seamers. Give Meaker a go, he is quicker than any of them including Finn who doesn't get it up past high eighties.

Posted by mrpfister on (November 21, 2012, 22:08 GMT)

Re: dropoutguy, No. Broad has never taken ten and scored a century in the same match. That has only happened twice in the history of the game. The main thing about Broad apart from his childish attitude on the field, is his accuracy. He can't bowl 6 balls in the same area in an over. He gets away with this at home because of the helpful conditions, but overseas he's useless. (Away Ave. 41.71). His contributions with the bat are few and far between, especially recently. He needs to be dropped to lose his big head and get back to fitness because if he thinks he's in peak condition bowling at 80mph, then he's deluded.

Posted by alurz on (November 21, 2012, 21:43 GMT)

He is ok but never be near to any top class seam bowler.

BROAD has the most wickets this year but look the stats of second best seamer PHILANDER.

M Inn Overs Runs Wkts Ave R/O Strike rate 10 18 406.1 1208 40 30.20 2.97 60.9 8 15 291.2 812 39 20.82 2.78 44.8

Posted by 200ondebut on (November 21, 2012, 21:07 GMT)

Broad could be a good player - but he needs to grow up as can be seen by his tweet and his on field antics. He has been sucked into the playground antics of Swan and Anderson and forgotten why he is there in the first place.

Broad is a good third seamer but I agree with Sir Ian in that if they go to two then he needs to be stood down.

Posted by dropoutguy on (November 21, 2012, 20:38 GMT)

Broad has the wickets and runs to demonstrate match-winning ability and he has produced them in Test matches. It is therefore not fair to refer to him as simply "promising" Having said this, he must remember that if he isn't scoring runs ( and he isn't this year ), then he will be judged by his bowling alone. His bowling is down on pace and less consistent than it might be. Consequently, there is a valid case for resting him. But how many other players are there in England who can take ten wickets and score a century in a Test match? Isn't he the first to both since Botham?

Posted by cabinet96 on (November 21, 2012, 20:34 GMT)

You've answered why he shouldn't be dropped in the first paragraph. Three tests ago he was England's best bowler and almost set up a victory against South Africa at Leeds.

Yes his pace is down, and it's worrying, but if they weren't going to drop him before India arrived last year, they won't drop him now. Also, England simply don't have the competition for places that they have then, when Bresnan was screaming out for selection because of his Ashes heroics.

I think Broad really just needs to go for it with his bowling come Friday. Don't worry about bowling the odd bad ball. Try and bowl fast and full and try to take wickets. 9-6 months ago I thought he was one of the best 5 cricketers in the world, now I'm struggling to fit him in the top 10 bowlers at the moment. Class is permanent though, and he's to hoping he'll come good this week.

Posted by Winsome on (November 21, 2012, 20:34 GMT)

It depends what people mean by promising. He's possibly over-achieving. Every young player's ability is inflated these days at the beginning of their career, it's a great bore to hear players labelled 'Sobers-like' and all that flannel. For his age, I think his test record is pretty good. Jimmy Anderson's isn't much better (with the ball) and he's meant to be the leader of the English attack.

Posted by liz1558 on (November 21, 2012, 20:33 GMT)

That's the difference between Broad and a great bowler. Steyn would never - has never - dropped in intensity or settled for medium pace.Finn deserves a place ahead of Broad. For all the talk of a long tail, Broad hasn't made much difference. Finn wants it more.

Posted by shillingsworth on (November 21, 2012, 20:18 GMT)

@makeshift - that's a very tired allegation. The fact that Gavaskar has also made it doesn't alter the fact that no one has ever provided either evidence of Broad senior exercising improper influence or reasons for other match officials being open to such influence.

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 20:12 GMT)

Who wrote this article? Broad crossroads? Broad not fulfilled potential? It takes a special player to win a test match. If it wasn't for Broad we wouldn't have won the Ashes in 2009 and we wouldn't have gone 1-0 up against India in 2011.

Broad is a quality bowler and can bat. Will always get into my England side.

Posted by Jaffa79 on (November 21, 2012, 19:56 GMT)

Getting compared to Chris Lewis! There can be few greater insults! To be honest, there is some truth in this article; some test players like Broad but there are plenty of others, play so few county/state games that they get cosy in the international set up. Broad cannot play all 3 format and I don't think he or anyone should to. Commit to the ultimate: Test cricket and play the hit and giggle stuff when you want to retire...

Posted by oze13 on (November 21, 2012, 19:33 GMT)

Has got a big opinion of himself, but hasn't delivered in a long time. Ditto, Bresnan and Bell!

Posted by mush112 on (November 21, 2012, 19:26 GMT)

Why only Broad!!!???? He can be very lethal at times but see our dear Jimmy Anderson who can become useless if there is no movement in air, he even lacks pace and attack of Broad. I dont know why commentators of many places are behind Broad and not seeing the biggest culprit of bowling failure ins Anderson. He hardly strikes with new ball now and when the ball is old he bowls like Jonatthan Trott. So drop Anderson not Broad.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (November 21, 2012, 19:21 GMT)

I find it difficult to warm to Stuart Broad. True, prior to this year, he's produced some match-winning performances, but he really hasn't fired with bat or ball for a while. but it's more than that. There is the body-language that betrays the man. He scowls, he teapots (I can't see him & fellow Notts player, Samit Patel, sharing many beers or jokes), seems not to know how to smile & is ultra-aggressive in his appealing, as almost as aggressive as when he is berating a team mate -- & Samit is his favourite whipping boy. There appears to be no humour in the man - and as I stop to read some of the comments here, I see that I'm not alone. And yet he is vice-captain! I sense that the England dressing room is a more edgy place these days & with SB throwing his weight around, it's little surprise. Then there is his fitness. He will state, with great emphasis no doubt, that he's in top form, but from what we see on the pitch, he's down on pace & accuracy. Needs to be put on notice by AF & AC.

Posted by milepost on (November 21, 2012, 19:14 GMT)

I think Broad is very overrated and keeps other players out of the team. His temperament has never been suited to leadership roles. Flower gets a load of praise but the results speak for themselves. Dipping a toe in at number one merely confirmed that they can't challenge top sides in top form

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 18:36 GMT)

Well well well....looks like there seems to be yet another volte face of opinion on Broad.When he first broke into the England team, I said he was rubbish and had a bad attitude which has been overlooked in some matches due to his dad being Chris Broad match ref. A lot of England fans and cricket experts called for his axing. What happened? He performed really well next match ensuring he was kept in the team. I still said he was rubbish. Several months passed with broad putting in a few poor performances. What happened then?a lot of England fans and cricket experts called for his axing. What happened? He then did the same again and put in a few good performances which saved his career. I still said he was rubbish. And now here we are again asking that age old question. Does this remind you of some vicious cycle? wash, rinse, repeat. The truth is Stuart Broad knows some powerful people...namely his dad. He's a hard man to drop.

Posted by shillingsworth on (November 21, 2012, 18:14 GMT)

@makeshift - bit of an old one that. Like Gavaskar, you provide no evidence of Broad Sr influencing other members of the 'panel', nor any reason why they should be open to influence. Which specific incidents of misbehaviour have you identified? Based on the ICC Code of Conduct, why would a suspension have been the appropriate penalty?

Posted by makeshift on (November 21, 2012, 17:35 GMT)

Sorry he is an over rated players. Should have on several occasions been suspended over his behaviour. The only reason he continued playing because his Dad was in the panel . I agree with Sunil Gavaskers comments

Posted by Dr.Vindaloo on (November 21, 2012, 17:31 GMT)

I think bringing him down a peg or two would do him - and England - a big favour. He's been promoted by his PR people as a 'celebrity sportsman' and it does seem to have gone to his head . A year playing country cricket would take him out of the England bubble and reconnect him with the fundamentals of the game as well as the realities of life. See you in 2014 Stuart, as a more mature individual and a hungrier, more accomplished cricketer.

Posted by philvic on (November 21, 2012, 17:18 GMT)

Broad is good when conditions are with him and he feels up for it. But his overall career stats are not those of a top class cricketer.

Posted by Harlequin. on (November 21, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

I just had a dream, it was Tremlett and Finn back to full fitness, bowling in tandem and terrorising batsmen around the world with a probing line and steepling bounce....but then I woke up and remembered Prior standing up to the stumps with our 'quicks' on, sigh!

Posted by Bamber on (November 21, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

The comments here are all good and valid but no-one has mentioned yet the Nasser Hussain favourite - character. I'm not a Broad fan and the reason is I don't believe he has the necessary character for International cricket. He has always acted as a petulant child and that was just reinforced with his displays in Ahmedabad, constantly arguing with the umpires, kicking the turf as well as glaring and cursing at his fielders. Admittedly the fielding was dreadful but Broad's attitude certainly doesn't help. Grow up Stuart, you're on the International stage representing your country not fighting over luchtime snacks at nursery school.

Posted by Uppercut07 on (November 21, 2012, 16:59 GMT)

Broad, Bresnan and Panesar r nothing but overhyped bowlers by English media. Always knew they wud struggle in subcontinent eventho they topup in helpful conditions. Only reason bowlers like them exists is there aren't enough class batsmen around (since Gilchrist, Jayasuriya, Hayden, Lara retired) to put them in their rightful place.

Posted by 158notout on (November 21, 2012, 16:45 GMT)

blueandroid - I really don't think Stuart Broads dad had anything to do with his selection. He was first picked at a time when England (limited overs) at least, were struggling to find decent bowlers - Jimmy had not come good yet and we were picking Liam Plunkett, Sajid mahmood and the like. That is why Broad was picked. I agree however on your variables, other than no.1 . I think he could play well overseas if there was a greentop and cloud cover!!! just like in England. ;-)

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (November 21, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

Who has had a good time with the ball in England colours in the last six months? it really is not constructive to limit the criticism to Broad. England were efficient against windies after the winter tour which really saw the bowlers do well-Broad took 14 wkts in 2 Tests-but not spectacular. Against SA the bowling swopped places with the batting- one might be forgiven for thinking that bowlers just went on strike as a reaction to the woeful batting of the winter-and Broad along with all of the others flopped big time. At Headingley he recovered his schutzpah for a brief hour but overall he was 10mph below normal speed, and looked spent.But the others were no better. Only Finn at Lords and KP at Headingley had good moments with the ball. In the first test I do not think he was too bad but obviously not right on the money. I do not actually think being dropped does anyone any harm and his batting needs bringing back, but I do not see Onions as a man for Bombay-more Wellington!

Posted by Dan9999 on (November 21, 2012, 16:43 GMT)

Very interesting opening paragraph that just reminds us that you sometimes have to stick it out with a player during the tough times if you want to reap the rewards in future. If Broad perhaps had a better attitude and public persona then the media and public would have more patience with him. In my opinion Sky pundits (especially Beefy) change their tune every week, so make up your own mind. Bresnan out, Panesar in, Prior up to 6.

Posted by 158notout on (November 21, 2012, 16:42 GMT)

alwaysindia - I think it is you that needs to grow up. At least until you can refrain from posting unless you have something useful to add. Petty baseless insults just undermine your side of the argument I am afraid.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (November 21, 2012, 16:39 GMT)

Broad annihilates the Aussies, but that admittedly isn't much of an achievement these days. Needs to find his form with both bat and ball, he seems to have lost his famous variations (slower ball & cutters) that he developed a few years back, and these days doesn't bowl them any more. Being dropped from the team will probably do him the world of good.

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 16:38 GMT)

Great observations as ever George. Broad is living on 2 defining series changing spells against Australia 2009 and India 2011. Has to up his game. Also no longer can we depend on a rearguard batting display. Needs rotating as you imply George.He will probably play a blinder now!

Posted by Harlequin. on (November 21, 2012, 16:30 GMT)

Yeah good article, his talent may not be in question (although I am not sure I like the suggestion that there is no-one who could take his place) but his attitude most definitely is. Seeing him have a strop on the pitch, having a go at umpires / ex-pro's, over-appealing and appealing for LBWs without turning to look at the umpire are things that usually only schoolboys are reprimanded for. Then there are also the suspicions surrounding his involvement in the KP fiasco which I don't think should be lightly ignored. With the stocks of high quality fast bowlers England have in their ranks - Finn, Onions, Tremlett, Meaker (yes I know some are currently injured) - who deserve another crack at the top, I think it is a good time to send him away for a while to do a bit of soul-searching and hopefully come back a more rounded person capable of winning games again and potentially leading England (which he is no way fit for at the moment IMO)

Posted by   on (November 21, 2012, 16:29 GMT)

His pace against WI and SA in the Englaish summer just gone was a long way short of what it was 12 months prior to that. People were comparing his pace with Tino Best before the series - but Broad was bowling closer to the speed of Darren Sammy during it. Likewise Bresnan, the entire SA series these two bowled a good 4-8 MPH slower than we have seen them. If England are just looking for 82-84 MPH dibbly dobbler bowlers then the county circuit has several more accurate and with more variation than Broad and Bresnan to choose from. If they can't hit the high 80's regularly and top 90 when England sniff a chance, then let them go. We had teams with 3 sometimes 4 trundlers in for all of the 80's and 90's - Fletchers legacy was to take us away from that "change the bowler - but not the dibbly dobbly bowling" mentality England had for 20+ years. And his batting...man has that gone south quickly.

Posted by shillingsworth on (November 21, 2012, 16:21 GMT)

Stupid comparison with Lewis. The reason Lewis was 'promising' for his entire test career was because he never achieved anything. Broad clearly has, notwithstanding his recent decline.

Posted by Front-Foot_lunge on (November 21, 2012, 16:11 GMT)

The time is not just running out for Broad. This is the best team we've managed to field in a decade, previous to that the 90's were a complete disaster. A 'forgotten decade' to borrow a phrase describing the stagnant Japanese economy. There are a few more players on notice. Bell, for one. Anderson, Swann also spring to mind. A couple of weeks at #1 had everyone cock-a-hoop at how great we were but reality has a great way of checking your ambitions and Broad, like the rest of the cricketers n England need to realise that our upward curve only happened because it coincided with a downward curve in other test playing nations. What were seeing now is that were moving to our natural place, around 4/5 in the test playing world as other teams come into contention. Perhaps we need to flash the pound a bit more in Africa and see if we can use the one-way advantages of our colonial roots to tempt a few players over here to bolster our stocks.

Posted by alwaysindia on (November 21, 2012, 16:08 GMT)

grow up mr dobell, it is not england , it is india where only GOOD bowlers will pick wickets. not your' conditional ' anderson nor BABY broad

Posted by Lara4life501 on (November 21, 2012, 16:05 GMT)

I am sorry. He has always been overrated for mine.No doubt he has the talent.However he has had more than his fair share of good fortune when it comes to being selected for England, I am sure it wouldnt hurt having your father continue to be involved in game at the highest levels either.Yes, his record is decent,however if you look at his record against the top quality sides (ie Australia and South Africa) his record is average to say the least.Test cricketers will always be judged on how they performed against the best.

Posted by Arrow011 on (November 21, 2012, 16:01 GMT)

Broad is not like Flintoff, but he is less injury prone than the giant boy. Broad tries his best always, he has also been quite responsive in sub-continent than other medium pacers.

Posted by the_blue_android on (November 21, 2012, 15:58 GMT)

He is a mediocre bowler when any of the below variables do not go his way. 1) play in england 2) Win the Toss and bowl 3) Green top wicket 4) A thick cloud cover. It's like me playing cricket in my backyard and I can assure you no one can get me out on my 8 yards pitch! England never introduces cricketers at 20. The only reason Broad got a break at such young age is his daddy. It's disheartening to see Steve Finn, easily the best bowler in England at the moment sit out for so many games. I understand he's injured now, but such an awesome bowler sitting out while dibbly dobbly bowlers like Bresnan, Broad and Anderson getting chances before him is a joke! I will go on and even predict what's gonna be in the future. Broad will never get dropped because of the same reasons he was picked. Broad is just like Viru Sehwag. Tiger at home, a cat in foreign conditions.

Posted by mikey76 on (November 21, 2012, 15:46 GMT)

Lets hope all the abuse and negative comments drive him on. He is capable of great things and we need him at his best right now!

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