England in India 2012-13 November 26, 2012

Injured Umesh Yadav out of third Test

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Fast bowler Umesh Yadav, who was ruled out of India's second Test against England due to a lower back injury, will miss at least the third Test of the series too, which starts in Kolkata on December 5.

Yadav, the most effective of India's pace bowlers in the series-opener in Ahmedabad, will not recover in time despite there being a prolonged break ahead of the Test. "The injury is more serious than it was thought to be, so the team will have to make do without him for at least another Test," an insider told ESPNcricinfo.

It was learnt that Yadav, who has been advised "at least 10 days' rest" by a specialist in Mumbai, will get a short break along with his team-mates. While England will remain in Mumbai before leaving for Kolkata on November 30, India's players have been given time off and have been asked to report in Kolkata on December 2. Yadav will join the squad in Kolkata to be monitored by physiotherapist Evan Speechley*.

As a result of Yadav's injury, the national selection panel will have another reason to ponder over the bowling attack when they sit down, on Tuesday, to finalise the India squad for the remaining two Tests and the two Twenty20 internationals that follow before England fly home for Christmas.

After Yadav was ruled out of the Wankhede Test, on the eve of the game, the team management chose to ignore Ishant Sharma and Ashok Dinda, who was called in as late replacement for him, and played all the three spinners in the XI instead. However, the trio of Pragyan Ojha, R Ashwin and Harbhajan Singh was outdone by England's Graeme Swann and Monty Panesar, meaning changes are on the cards.

Sandeep Patil, India's chief selector, and his colleagues will have to decide whether one of Piyush Chawla or Amit Mishra, the legbreak bowlers who have proven their fitness in the Ranji Trophy, is a better choice than Harbhajan as the third spinner. Returning to Test cricket after a 14-month break, Harbhajan returned match figures of 23-1-84-2, with lower-order batsmen Stuart Broad and James Anderson his only victims. Harbhajan, though, is one game shy of becoming the tenth India cricketer to have made 100 Test appearances. Dinda is set to remain in the fifteen.

There are unlikely to be any changes made to the batting line-up, despite the top order's failure at the Wankhede.

With India having failed to impress for the third consecutive time in the World Twenty20, in Sri Lanka in September-October, it will be interesting to see the new selection panel's T20 combination. These selectors are set to pick a squad for the shortest format for the first time, and it might not be a surprise if there is a major shake-up to that unit, which failed to make it past the Super Eights stage at the World T20.

*18:19GMT, November 26: This article has been updated

Amol Karhadkar is a correspondent at ESPNcricinfo

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  • Naresh28 on November 29, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Lets face it. RAHANE AND TIWARI are test class players. They should be in the team for next two games. The selectors promised us before the series started. Yet we see the same failure faces in TEAM INDIA. DINESH KARTHIK is defenitelty a better bat than DHONI. RAHUL SHARMA and MURALI KARTHIK should be spin options.

  • vikram246 on November 29, 2012, 6:31 GMT

    I think yuvi and kohli not made for test so give also rest and Zahir not effective bowling so change three player and give chance to Rahane, Murli vijay and Ishant Sharma

  • on November 27, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    Dinesh karthik has been in good form and was the opener in the test series we won in England last time.I have seen him bat recently and is as good a player as anyone you can find in the domestic circuit.Only if our captain has as much interest in team building as the fans seem to have

  • Raggie on November 27, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Bringing out Yuvraj due to emotional decision back fires. Everyone knows that he is not a test material and his test career is gone long. WHy do they keep picking him and raina instead of giving chances for Rahane, Bist, Rohit, Tiwari, Dhawan etc

  • DaisonGarvasis on November 27, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    Well even though I am a die hard Sachin Fan, I must say every game Sachin "clings on" to playing without performing he is losing respect. I dont know if he is continuing for one more "record" of playing 200 tests!!! If he is performing all this wouldnt have come in to picture but he is playing poorely and is denying the opportunity of youngster who could play these games Sachin is wasting and get the experience of International Cricket. I will be sad when Sachin retire but everything has a time and I think its time for Sachin to retire.

  • analyseabhishek on November 27, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    Rahane in for Yuvi is a tough decision but a logical one. Raina is an equal bunny for Swann as Yuvi is. Rahane is a technically correct batsman and adept in these conditions. Plus he is a player for the future as well. Bring a wrist leggie as a third spinner is no doubt a good appraoch. The only problem is that both of India's leggies. Mishra and Chawla, are inconsistent and one never knows which side of the bed they get up from!

  • on November 27, 2012, 7:19 GMT

    Let Dinda play this test. Home ground, good peace, young and energetic. He isn't a bad choice at all...

  • HARISHGUDRY on November 27, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    No any major changes are expected as always, plz don't select any player just bcoz of one or two good performance in domestic cricket - just like Yuvaraj Singh. He's been tried n tested material at test level n never succeeded so far, same thing with M.Vijay, no idea what made the selectors to pick Harbhajan without even a good domestic show. That's Indian cricket. Why don't we an opportunity to Badrinath? He's much more experienced & talented player but never given the handful opportunity... so sad...

  • neerajprasher on November 27, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    Sehwag out Rahane in,Gambhir out M Vijay in,Zaheer out Ishant in,Yuvraj out Kaif in,harbhajan out Pathan in.Chwala and Mishra is not even doing anything special.pick the team according to Ranji Performance.

  • on November 27, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    Spin department is a major concern for India. Indian spinners are playing more shorter format cricket and not bowling right lengths and lines in test match cricket. We are also not having options to replace Ashwin and Harbajan. If we rank our Indian spinners surely they are not at top 5 or 6 in the world. We need to produce world class spin bowler else we can't win test matches.

  • Naresh28 on November 29, 2012, 7:03 GMT

    Lets face it. RAHANE AND TIWARI are test class players. They should be in the team for next two games. The selectors promised us before the series started. Yet we see the same failure faces in TEAM INDIA. DINESH KARTHIK is defenitelty a better bat than DHONI. RAHUL SHARMA and MURALI KARTHIK should be spin options.

  • vikram246 on November 29, 2012, 6:31 GMT

    I think yuvi and kohli not made for test so give also rest and Zahir not effective bowling so change three player and give chance to Rahane, Murli vijay and Ishant Sharma

  • on November 27, 2012, 22:53 GMT

    Dinesh karthik has been in good form and was the opener in the test series we won in England last time.I have seen him bat recently and is as good a player as anyone you can find in the domestic circuit.Only if our captain has as much interest in team building as the fans seem to have

  • Raggie on November 27, 2012, 12:06 GMT

    Bringing out Yuvraj due to emotional decision back fires. Everyone knows that he is not a test material and his test career is gone long. WHy do they keep picking him and raina instead of giving chances for Rahane, Bist, Rohit, Tiwari, Dhawan etc

  • DaisonGarvasis on November 27, 2012, 11:28 GMT

    Well even though I am a die hard Sachin Fan, I must say every game Sachin "clings on" to playing without performing he is losing respect. I dont know if he is continuing for one more "record" of playing 200 tests!!! If he is performing all this wouldnt have come in to picture but he is playing poorely and is denying the opportunity of youngster who could play these games Sachin is wasting and get the experience of International Cricket. I will be sad when Sachin retire but everything has a time and I think its time for Sachin to retire.

  • analyseabhishek on November 27, 2012, 7:26 GMT

    Rahane in for Yuvi is a tough decision but a logical one. Raina is an equal bunny for Swann as Yuvi is. Rahane is a technically correct batsman and adept in these conditions. Plus he is a player for the future as well. Bring a wrist leggie as a third spinner is no doubt a good appraoch. The only problem is that both of India's leggies. Mishra and Chawla, are inconsistent and one never knows which side of the bed they get up from!

  • on November 27, 2012, 7:19 GMT

    Let Dinda play this test. Home ground, good peace, young and energetic. He isn't a bad choice at all...

  • HARISHGUDRY on November 27, 2012, 7:18 GMT

    No any major changes are expected as always, plz don't select any player just bcoz of one or two good performance in domestic cricket - just like Yuvaraj Singh. He's been tried n tested material at test level n never succeeded so far, same thing with M.Vijay, no idea what made the selectors to pick Harbhajan without even a good domestic show. That's Indian cricket. Why don't we an opportunity to Badrinath? He's much more experienced & talented player but never given the handful opportunity... so sad...

  • neerajprasher on November 27, 2012, 7:13 GMT

    Sehwag out Rahane in,Gambhir out M Vijay in,Zaheer out Ishant in,Yuvraj out Kaif in,harbhajan out Pathan in.Chwala and Mishra is not even doing anything special.pick the team according to Ranji Performance.

  • on November 27, 2012, 7:08 GMT

    Spin department is a major concern for India. Indian spinners are playing more shorter format cricket and not bowling right lengths and lines in test match cricket. We are also not having options to replace Ashwin and Harbajan. If we rank our Indian spinners surely they are not at top 5 or 6 in the world. We need to produce world class spin bowler else we can't win test matches.

  • Edassery on November 27, 2012, 7:06 GMT

    A total revamp is necessary here. Bring in Manoj Tiwari, Badarinath and Rahane instead of the non-performing big names. Bring in Pankaj Singh who bowled his heart out in Ranji trophy in bad flat wickets. Amit Mishra 'could' be a spin addition.

    Drop Sachin, Yuvraj, Zaheer and Harbhajan immediately - Despite playing so many tests together they still don't seem to understand their role in the team - more than poor performance itself. Totally irresponsible people!

  • tushcmi on November 27, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    my test team for next 2 matches...

    G Gambhir > V Sehwag > C Pujara > S Tendulkar > M Tiwary > I Pathan > M Dhoni > R Ashwin > Z Khan > I Sharma / S Sreeshant > P Ojha

  • PhaniBhaskar24 on November 27, 2012, 6:33 GMT

    Time for some leg spin...no point having all Off spinners & see what happens..drop Bhaji & take chawla, who could be reallly testing these poms

  • on November 27, 2012, 6:25 GMT

    if aswin is playing as a batsman not a spinner ...why he is in the team ?....it will b better if another good batsman ll play in his palce......

  • crindex on November 27, 2012, 6:22 GMT

    We should go with the same bowling combination we did for Mumbai. Experience and a less bouncy pitch in Eden Garden will make them succeed.

  • on November 27, 2012, 6:08 GMT

    plz bring IRFAN back to the place of an allrounder in tests

  • on November 27, 2012, 6:03 GMT

    Can Dhoni retire from Test Cricket and just focus on the two shorter formats? Can Sachin gracefully ride into the sunset? Can Sehwag play FOR THE TEAM, or opt out? Can Ashwin bat more like VVS (which he certainly can try) than try to play like Sehwag? Can Kohli regain the form he seems to have lost ever since this series started? Can Ashwin bowl like Swann, focussing on his strengths, than try to be an inventor of new things? Can Ojha, who already proved his worth, get turn & the accuracy like Monty? Can Mumbai Indians keep Sachin, Bhajji, & Zak exclusively to play for them? Can selectors show guts? Can they ignore history & reputation and select based on the current form & fitness? Can they blood in at least ONE youngster, in every forthcoming test? There are 6 more tests coming up to be played in India. Can...? Can...? Can...? Too many questions. Answers, most probably will be : Can't!... Can't ...Can't....! Waste of my mental energy, & tapping on the key board!

  • on November 27, 2012, 5:41 GMT

    I believe in dhoni and his team...Team India has the potential to win the series...If dhoni want a similar track in kolkata too than our selector should select RAHUL SHARMA instead of BHAJJI.He s got mare pace than PANESAR.He s got hieght.He can bowl wherever he wants.He can turn the bowl too. And IRFAN is also a good option instead of UMESH as he is injured.IRFAN can swing the bowl and able to take wickets with the new bowl..

  • N.SHURESH on November 27, 2012, 5:25 GMT

    Indian team missing a bowling allrounder for a long time. Why selectors cant give an opportunity to players like RISHI DAWAN & BHUWANESH KUMAR. Presently their in good for in batting & bowling.

  • BCCI007 on November 27, 2012, 5:22 GMT

    You need thinking bowlers against class batsmen of England. Zak lost his teeth, Ashwin lost his mystery ball, Harbhajan useful for nothing..

  • on November 27, 2012, 5:15 GMT

    Selectors, Get some young blood for the team ... at least for a fast bowler place...

  • vish57 on November 27, 2012, 5:10 GMT

    Select bowlers who can take wickets and bastmen who can bat long with patience, not on reputation and history of performance. We have seen during many years, we had one match heros, one series heros or even 1 season heros who all vanished later. We need to try new players against weaker opponents such as Bangaldesh, New Zealand, Sri Lanka and West Indies not against Australia, South Africa or England.

  • on November 27, 2012, 5:09 GMT

    though i am a great fan of Yadav, one test and he is gone.. i would seriously like to see if Siddle plays the next test for Aus after he was almost dead yesterday trying to win the match for his team

  • on November 27, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    Cook & Pietersen is a big head ache in upcoming test matches also for India, really our Spinners had to do something different & have to get these batsman early to win the test match & series. Also we have to drop bajan & bring Amit Mishra for next 2 Test & alos zaheer should be dropped & ishanth has to come for next 2 test.

  • on November 27, 2012, 5:01 GMT

    Harbhajan should make way for Amit Mishra. A leg Spinner would bring in variety. Yadav being unfit, would like to see Ishant Sharma get an opportunity against the poms. The confidence with which the England team tackled our spinners on Wankhede augurs well for them going into the 3rd test@Kolkata. Our batsman as well as our bowlers, especially the spinners need to pull up their socks on turning tailor made tracks.

  • TheOrestes on November 27, 2012, 5:00 GMT

    Give just one valid reason for not choosing Irfan Pathan for this test series ...

  • N.SHURESH on November 27, 2012, 4:55 GMT

    India looking for an allrounder for a long time. Why cant give an opportunity to Rishi Dawan & Bhuwanesh Kumar?

  • nkoch on November 27, 2012, 4:54 GMT

    Hope common sense will prevail and Harbhajan will not play test cricket again. Not expecting any wholesale changes in the squad but Yuvraj is completely out of sorts against spinners and should not be playing 11. Hope they'll have Manoj Tiwari back or play Rahane as opener with Sehwag batting in middle overs. Also, please, please, please no murali vijay please.

  • Worried on November 27, 2012, 4:34 GMT

    Is it time? The three premiere batsman/cricketers are facing that time. That is Ricky Ponting, Jacques Kallis and Sachin T. Jacque is playing a blinder in Australia even though he is 300 days younger than Ricky, Ricky, the day is coming and Sachin T is it time to think of the team? Many years Sachin ago would not have got out to Monty on a million days of Sunday. He did not look good. Has old man time finally caught up? Remember, Sachin, the day will come, but like Ricky P who knows his time is close, does Sachin understand it. For the sake of cricket and I hope he knows...

  • on November 27, 2012, 4:25 GMT

    Bring back Irfan pathan, he can swing the ball so effectively that he can take out some wickets in his first spell ... throw away the bowlers like Piyush chawla directly .. they are hell for team india

  • on November 27, 2012, 4:14 GMT

    My Sqaud for remaining tests : Sehwag, Gambhir, Rahane, Kohli, Pujara, Manoj Tiwary, Dhoni, Naman Ojah, Irfan Pathan, Sachin, Sandeep Sharma, Dinda, Pragyan Ojah, Ashwin, Zaheen Khan

  • on November 27, 2012, 4:13 GMT

    I hate this... India has only a few genuine pacers and injuries are not helping the team in anyway... :(

  • on November 27, 2012, 4:03 GMT

    Where is Irfan Pathan? How they are neglecting the most in form bowler.. strange.

  • Meety on November 27, 2012, 3:57 GMT

    Real shame, I like this bloke. Hopefully he'll be right for the 4th Test.

  • Surya_RX100 on November 27, 2012, 3:56 GMT

    How about Sandeep Patil calling up Dravid and Laxman, and persuade them to play in these last 2 test matches? Now who they should replace, if thats a possibility? Simple. Dravid in place of Sehwag and Laxman in place of Yuvraj....

  • on November 27, 2012, 3:52 GMT

    Harbhajan has always done well in Cal so give him a chance on past record if not on current form. Ashok Dinda might get debut on home turf as he is bowling well, but even Zaheer is looking very rusty and inept.

    Monty and Swann are bowling really well, specially Swann who has now won tests abroad for England. Probably the best since Derek Underwood. Also lets not forget that when Pakistan beat England in UAE, at least in two tests England had a very strong showing and might have beaten Pakistan as well.

  • landl47 on November 27, 2012, 3:45 GMT

    I'm really surprised that Praveen Kumar, who bowled very well in England, has been ignored ever since. I know he has had injury problems, but I believe he is now fit. One seamer and three spinners is not a good combination. I'm not sure what 360review is talking about, test cricket is regarded as the premier form of cricket by most players and fans. Of course, there are people who don't understand the game who prefer T20, but they are not real cricket fans. Certainly not many cricketers except those who don't like hard work would rather play T20 than tests.

  • Scratchingtendulkar on November 27, 2012, 3:44 GMT

    @360review - HOHOHO! I was just waiting for the latest set of excuses to come from Indian supporters. Others might think that too much meaningless T20 is to blame for your demise. Test cricket is and always be the ultimate pinacle of the game - the hardest format to play and the standard by which you measure yourself against other countries. I say that 'if you can't stand the heat, then get out of the kitches', because it seems to me that India do not have the strength or appetite to compete in this ultimate 'test' against the rest of the World and only want to play the watered-down simple formats of the game. Okay, go ahead and let the serious test playing countries only compete (Australia, S.Africa, England, Pakistan) because your excuses are getting boring!

  • sheenu on November 27, 2012, 3:43 GMT

    It will help India if they select a legspinner like Amit Mishra or Piyush Chawla, since English players don't have a very good legspinner and they may not feel very comfortable against a legspinner. On the other hand, if India picks on ly Ashwin, Bhajji and Ojha, they will be in for another rude awakening in Eden Gardens. This is because English batsmen practise against Monty and Swann, who are far better than Ojha, Ashwin and Bhajji.

  • on November 27, 2012, 3:10 GMT

    Irfan Pathan needs to be brought back, and i think its time to bring young talent and Drop zaheer Khan.

  • Sinhaya on November 27, 2012, 3:01 GMT

    @360review, yes I agree with you. I think tests still has a lot of value when the big 4 to 5 teams play (Aus, Eng, Ind, SA and Pak). Injuries are the main problem especially for pace bowlers. But dont forget that some pace bowlers like Steyn, Morkel, Anderson, Rampaul to even former greats like Vaas, Walsh, Ambrose, Wasim, Waqar etc were not injury prone. I think test cricket will die out and only ODI and T20 will survive. Also T20 is the best way to globalize cricket by promoting it in Europe and Africa etc.

  • on November 27, 2012, 2:49 GMT

    @Front-Foot-Lunge: Yadav was not potent in the first test? Which game were you watching sir? He was the most impressive fast bowler in the first test by a long way...

  • raghvender on November 27, 2012, 1:55 GMT

    i thnk they should rest zaheer and bring some swing bowlers like sandeep sharma and irfan...in case of spinners i thnk they will playwith ojha and aswin so even if they take new spinner he wont be a part of 11.

  • on November 27, 2012, 1:54 GMT

    changes on the card should be gambhir replaced with rahane, sachin with manoj tiwari,yuvraj with badrinath, harbhajan with rahul sharma & yadav with bhuvneshwar kumar

  • on November 27, 2012, 0:56 GMT

    Please get in Varun Aaron.... He has genuine Pace...!!!

  • on November 27, 2012, 0:31 GMT

    One way of neutralizing the English spinners is attack them from the start, but why not strengthen the batting order? Time to send Tendulkar, Sehwag and Harbhajan packing...

  • spinkingKK on November 27, 2012, 0:19 GMT

    Indian selectors made a huge mistake before, when they kept picking Ganguly when he wasn't performing and then Dravid when he was completely gone. Those were precious time wasted on nurturing Yuvraj Singh and Pujara respectively. Now, they are doing the same thing with Tendulkar. A bold selector like Vengsarkar is what is required for India. Whatever spin combination India pick for the next test, I can't see them beating England anymore on the strength of their spin bowling. Only way India can win is, if at least two of Pujara, Kohli, Yuvraj or Sehwag make huge centuries in quick time.

  • on November 27, 2012, 0:02 GMT

    The following players in my opinion are not suitable to play for India in Test cricket. We should not be counting on past laurels for the sake of it and kept loosing the matches even at home and on the surface tailored made for the spinners, shame on you guys the way they batted in 2nd innings,

    Virender Sehwag, Sachin Tendulkar, Yuvraj Singh, MS Dhoni, Zaheer Khan, Harbhajan Singh

  • on November 26, 2012, 23:34 GMT

    What about L Balaji...He is amongst the wickets in Ranji Trophy.....

  • SanjivAwesome on November 26, 2012, 23:13 GMT

    Harbhajan must be selected so that he can tick the 100th test match on his resume - that is what really matters, is that right, Mr Patil and selectors?

  • Naresh28 on November 26, 2012, 23:12 GMT

    @reverseSweepIndia - yes I agree Sandeep Sharma is a definitive good move. He takes wickets but is too young. Murali Karthik could slot into spinner role quite easily. India needs to remove at least 5 passengers in the team. Tiwaru and Eahane need to be in the 11

  • on November 26, 2012, 22:39 GMT

    Ishant Sharma and varun Aaron should be as the seamers in the team, unmukt chand should be for yuvraj and rahane for tendulkar, intact in place of ashwin can have piyush or rahul Sharma, otherwise team gone a loose all the remaining matches,and this should be last ultimatum for gambhir ,dhoni and Fletcher ,the team is playing with the imotion of the whole nation from quite a while now ,and with Innovating thoughts nothing gone change as they are taking it forgranted now shame on the whole team ,selectors and the way they performed and reacted on this loss and I am a big fan of alaistor cook now,he has owned the Indian team in their own den.

  • TexanStar2 on November 26, 2012, 22:37 GMT

    The player whom India really missing in this series is: VVS Laxman.

  • ashes61 on November 26, 2012, 22:30 GMT

    360review: Test cricket fading? Not in England it isn't! We still have guaranteed sell-outs for all Tests whether the England Test team is successful or not, except on cold, wet days in May against Bangladesh. Even during the years of our regular Ashes defeats to Australia in the 90s and after, our Test grounds were packed. Our grounds are generally sold out 6 months in advance, even at very high prices. It may surprise you to know that Test cricket has never been more popular here. ODIs and T20 internationals also draw sellout crowds but Test cricket is undoubtedly still acknowledged as the pinnacle of the game & the most iimportant element. Our players' highest ambition is to appear in the Test side - regardless of injuries, and we get as many of those as other countries do. The average English pro plays much LESS cricket than, say, 30/40 yrs ago - and the Eng international far, far less than his earlier counterpart. So Test cricket is very healthy indeed here thanks!

  • on November 26, 2012, 20:47 GMT

    very dissapointed like any other indian.... please bring back Praveen Kumar even the batting changes have to be made .

  • on November 26, 2012, 20:09 GMT

    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH.....Mishra n Chawla as replacements ??? BCCI n Selectors playing very cruel joke on all fans seriously...Swann n Panesar will do a repeat of this match jus wait n watch....time for Selectors to be a LITTLE PROACTIVE n get proper FRESH Talent in ...we need a left Arm spinner and there are few guys who can do the job ie HArmeet Singh is one a raw u19 lad but wud be more effective thn a Bhaji tht i can guarantee

  • Jagadeesh.V on November 26, 2012, 20:07 GMT

    Wt abt Irfan. We need to change captaincy...

  • Chapel on November 26, 2012, 19:50 GMT

    bring back MURALI KARTHIK he is far better than harbhajan

  • richardror on November 26, 2012, 19:42 GMT

    Can anyone explain to me what happened to Praveen Kumar? Last I saw him was in the tests in England where he was by far the most effective of India's bowlers and it seemed, the only one who put in any effort. Did he get injured?

  • richardror on November 26, 2012, 19:41 GMT

    @360review

    I agree that many players are playing IPL cricket and some even choosing to play it over the long game. This however is due to one reason - money. As a friend of a professional cricketer who has played in the IPL it is clear that the players do not care a shot about the result of the game, as long as they get their paycheck! Whereas, they do care about test cricket a large amount. I find this sad because they get a lot more money playing tin-pot cricket which they don't care about at all, despite a lot of the fans taking it as a genuine competition.

  • on November 26, 2012, 19:31 GMT

    It doesn't matter if Yadav is injured or not as Dhoni does not utilize the so called pace bowlers like any cricketing nation. One mentality - direct to spin. Even Zahir Khan should be left out to include another spinner or another batsman so India won't get out cheaply!!! When will the mindset of Indian cricket change?

  • itsthewayuplay on November 26, 2012, 19:22 GMT

    'There are unlikely to be any changes made to the batting line-up, despite the top order's failure at the Wankhede.' Is it safe to say the first 2 tests have not made Sachin reconsider his position. This is the time for wholesale changes. Sehwag Gambhir Tendulkar Yuvraj Harbajan.

  • itsthewayuplay on November 26, 2012, 19:19 GMT

    The key has to be long term planning. Forget about winning / losing the series and start giving opportunities to the next generation of players. Let them play and and learn but give them a chance.

  • on November 26, 2012, 19:06 GMT

    @360review - if playing test's was so detrimental to bowlers fitness, why is it only over the last couple of years that bowlers have been having fitness issues. It never used to be a problem. Arguably they are spending too much time on strength and conditioning, and not enough time actually bowling. That, and too many short spells of bowling in 1 day cricket.....

  • ashutosh.p on November 26, 2012, 19:00 GMT

    Give a try to young Rshi Dhawan. He is looking a very good pace allrounder. bring Rahane in place of Yuvraj. Yuvraj has been given opportunities in past and never looked a test metarial. Include one leggie.

  • seantells on November 26, 2012, 18:40 GMT

    drop tendulkar,drop shewag n gamble on ashwin coz he's not a talented n intelligent bowler just a lucky bowler, and bring a left arm seamer for zaheer

  • RaviNarla on November 26, 2012, 18:25 GMT

    Instead of getting Amit Mishra or Piyush they could go for Rahul Sharma. The point is he extracts more bounce and is fast in the air.

  • vpk23 on November 26, 2012, 18:07 GMT

    We need to keep in mind that if Eng bats which will be right combination of seamers will suit the conditions. It would be ideal somebody who is good with the old ball. Ofcourse not an other turner. A sporting wicket should be it. Rest said application will be the forte for the results.

  • on November 26, 2012, 18:04 GMT

    Dinda is best among the pacers named above as far as form and effectiveness are concerned.

  • srisri on November 26, 2012, 18:03 GMT

    Idea. Replace Bhajji with a quicky and prepare "pace" pitch to surprise English team;)

  • vpk23 on November 26, 2012, 18:02 GMT

    Keep Yadav safe... Get in Varon if fit.. or Give Sree a go if he fit too. though ideally Irfan is the best bet. He can bit a wee bit if necessary lol

  • inswing on November 26, 2012, 17:58 GMT

    Selection is essentially immaterial. High bounce pitch means England win, low bounce pitch will guarantee India win. Tendulkar needs to go, but it will take several more failures before there is enough pressure on him to retire. He will make one 50 and that will prolong his presence, unfortunately.

  • on November 26, 2012, 17:40 GMT

    Better Bring back Irfan Pathan.. or somebody like Sandeep Sharma or Praveen Kumar. It was a bad choice to play 2 off spinners. Should be one off spinner, one leg spinner and one left arm spinner. When Ganguly was captain he used sachin as a useful part time bowler 'coz he can turn the ball very well. Anyway its all upto the captain and team management. Best wishes.

  • Cpt.Meanster on November 26, 2012, 17:26 GMT

    Well, the Indian selectors should think outside the den. It's pathetic to even read the names of our 2 backup spinners - Chawla and Mishra, who are average bowlers even in Indian conditions. Our fast bowling cupboard is made to look bare in spite of having many good quicks in our domestic circuit. If politics and regional bias is going to dictate terms in Indian cricket, then as fans we should be in for a shocker for the next 2 to 3 years. I cannot see India climbing up the test rankings any time soon if such an attitude is displayed by the selectors. As far as turning pitches go, the joke is on India now. They have shown the world they CAN be beaten even on turners with a little bit of bounce. Ahhh.. the magic word is BOUNCE. Seam, swing or spin, as long as the pitch is bouncy, the Indian batsmen are in trouble. So what now ? another slow, low turner or a flat track with ZERO assistance to either discipline of bowling ? Tough questions for India ahead of Kolkata.

  • Al_Bundy1 on November 26, 2012, 17:19 GMT

    Shami Ahmed of Bengal deserves a chance, especially considering that the next match would be played on his home ground. He can swing the ball at lively pace. He was very successful in India A's tour of West Indies. Recently he took 7 wickets, including a hat trick in a Ranji Trophy match.

  • samincolumbia on November 26, 2012, 17:17 GMT

    Harbhajan should play in Kolkata since he is very effective on that pitch. India should have learnt the lesson back in 2004 and not used this pitch for the test match. This is one of the pitches where Indian spinners have been largely ineffective. Order will be restored (i.e. England thrashing) when the match starts in Kolkata.

  • on November 26, 2012, 17:12 GMT

    Players are too finely tuned these days thats why they get injured often @Rishad bowling in ODIs is different from bowling in tests in tests a bowler needs some degree of pace how fast is Aron? India seem to think miilitary medium bowlers like Ashish Nehra are a good pick they arent these days

  • moera on November 26, 2012, 17:03 GMT

    Indian Test team is going through rough patch. Its time to look for new faces to fit into the shoes of Rahul, Laxman, Sourav,Kumble. The place for zaheer and sachin are also a big concern considering their current form. Our openers are failing consistently. Spinners are failing to grab wickets. Its better for Dhoni to concentrate on shorter format. He is the best in shorter format as batsman as well as captain... but better wicket keeping batsman like saha, karthik, U kaul are available to to replace Dhoni in longer format. Big change is desperately needed.

  • on November 26, 2012, 17:02 GMT

    Irfan shud be in a team ....kaif & Raina also deserve because of their Ranji secession

  • on November 26, 2012, 17:01 GMT

    Irfan and VArun Aron are injured,so Buwanwsar Kumar and Rishi Dhavan should be in the team considering their form

  • tanmoysarkar1985 on November 26, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    We want Ashok Dinda.He is the superb bowler and perfomance is good.In his home condition india will get help.

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:57 GMT

    Only India chooses one dimensional bowling attack, i.e. spinners as all weather option. What is wrong with our selectors in ignoring all our quickies and why not normal wickets? Why do we go for turning tracks in the hope that England are weak against spin bowling. Please go by the famous WI captain Clive Llyod. Pick your best four bowlers whether pace or spin and play on normal indian wickets. Making a deliberate turner betrays your lack of self confidence in the team's ability to contest on equal terms. It is self defeating and I am happy that India did not win at Mumbai on a turning track. It is the wrong way of winning and amounts to cheating. I do not appreciate Dhoni. He has already lost 8 test matches in England and Australia by not going in for raw pace but relied on medium pace of Praveenkumar. Now yadav is out. No Ishant & no Sreesanth.

  • Nampally on November 26, 2012, 16:56 GMT

    I was expecting Tendulkar to announce his retirement. But it doesn't appear likely! So India is forced to keep him in the XI. I prefer Tiwary to replace him as a batsman + part time leg spinner. Both Sehwag & Gambhir appear to have retained their spots. If Yuvraj cannot fulfil his all rounder's role - he bowled just 4 overs in Mumbai Test - then Irfan Pathan should take his spot. Dhoni has been an all round failure in WK, Batting & Captaincy.Let Dhoni focus on short format & bring in Saha as WK/batsman. Pujara should lead India. I still think Rahul Sharma with fast leg breaks is the best choice for the third spinner, whether Dhoni likes him or Not. Chawla & Mishra are too slow to be effective- both tried & failed. M.Kartik even at 37 is superior to Harbhajan. For seamers Sandeep Sharma, Shami Ahmad, Ishant Sharma are all good choices. ZAK must be better utilised instead of wasting the New ball on Ashwin/Ojha. It seems pointless to have Yadev & ZAK but not exploit their talent.

  • BetterReading on November 26, 2012, 16:37 GMT

    Gambhir, Kohli, Yuvraj, Sachin and Harbhajan should be dropped from the current squad.

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:33 GMT

    Who cares? How capable this man is evident from his records. The most expensive on any given day and wickets come to him as occasionally as rain in Rajasthan. He is another over rated player along with Rohit Sharma. Talent minus performance. Why not bring Varun Aaron, who is equally fast and proved whenever given the opportunity! Wonder what has been forcing selector to choose him over Aaron!!

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    It was the most embarrassing test defeat for team India. The masters of spin bowling caved in like a pack of cards. Sachin tendulkar, oh yet again could not stem the rot as usual. When will you learn to bat under pressure cooker situation. You are at the end of the career, yet we have to watch an innings from you in crisis when team India needed you very badly. What is the use of scoring tons of runs in docile flat bed wickets. Sachin, time to go in respect or else the fan will drag you out of the team since BCCI is handicap to dump you for good. Sachin go, go and leave team India to upcoming players

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    Dont hold your breath...nothing earth shattering expected from Indian selectors....

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    Please get Rahane in for Yuvi and its better to play with 2 spinners rather than a "waste" 3rd spinner....Not sure how Chawla or Mishra is going to make a difference until and unless they are in some "form" to take wickets against England

  • TheRisingTeam on November 26, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    He's an average fast bowler even Sharma who's also average can bowl better than him.

  • 360review on November 26, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    What's happening to cricket players these days. I see constant news that some player is injured. Just look at SA/AUS test series, compare it with Eng/Ind test series. Lot of players are injured between these 4 test playing nations. It brings up the point that test cricket (including playing cricket all year) is detrimental to players fitness - especially bowlers. No wonder test cricket is fading, not just amongst fans but also with players.

  • 777aditya on November 26, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    too bad selectors are ignoring Irfan - he can quite a handful in tests

  • on November 26, 2012, 15:27 GMT

    bring back ishant..or bring varun aron..he performed well againt english dnt forget the ball he bowled againt cook during the last oneday international he played..

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 26, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    Yadev wasn't that potent anyway and the English spinners, now proved far superior to India's spinners, should be the difference again between the teams.

  • ReverseSweepIndia on November 26, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    lo there goes any chance of saving this series. If selectors are daring, they should go for Sandeep Sharma of Punjab. Young and swings the ball both ways, Praveen is good option too, but he become ineffective after ball become old

  • SamRoy on November 26, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    Well then, England will win the third test too. Apart from Umesh, only Ojha has been good. Ashwin has been bad and Harbhajan is hopeless. Zaheer has zero impact. Suggestion: drop Harbhajan and bring in Rahul Sharma, drop Tendulkar bring in Rohit Sharma, drop Yuvraj bring in Tiwary and let Ashwin bat ahead of Dhoni (he is far better than Dhoni technically). Ashwin has to be treated as a bowling allrounder henceforth.

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  • SamRoy on November 26, 2012, 15:09 GMT

    Well then, England will win the third test too. Apart from Umesh, only Ojha has been good. Ashwin has been bad and Harbhajan is hopeless. Zaheer has zero impact. Suggestion: drop Harbhajan and bring in Rahul Sharma, drop Tendulkar bring in Rohit Sharma, drop Yuvraj bring in Tiwary and let Ashwin bat ahead of Dhoni (he is far better than Dhoni technically). Ashwin has to be treated as a bowling allrounder henceforth.

  • ReverseSweepIndia on November 26, 2012, 15:10 GMT

    lo there goes any chance of saving this series. If selectors are daring, they should go for Sandeep Sharma of Punjab. Young and swings the ball both ways, Praveen is good option too, but he become ineffective after ball become old

  • Front-Foot-Lunge on November 26, 2012, 15:15 GMT

    Yadev wasn't that potent anyway and the English spinners, now proved far superior to India's spinners, should be the difference again between the teams.

  • on November 26, 2012, 15:27 GMT

    bring back ishant..or bring varun aron..he performed well againt english dnt forget the ball he bowled againt cook during the last oneday international he played..

  • 777aditya on November 26, 2012, 15:40 GMT

    too bad selectors are ignoring Irfan - he can quite a handful in tests

  • 360review on November 26, 2012, 15:47 GMT

    What's happening to cricket players these days. I see constant news that some player is injured. Just look at SA/AUS test series, compare it with Eng/Ind test series. Lot of players are injured between these 4 test playing nations. It brings up the point that test cricket (including playing cricket all year) is detrimental to players fitness - especially bowlers. No wonder test cricket is fading, not just amongst fans but also with players.

  • TheRisingTeam on November 26, 2012, 15:52 GMT

    He's an average fast bowler even Sharma who's also average can bowl better than him.

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:02 GMT

    Please get Rahane in for Yuvi and its better to play with 2 spinners rather than a "waste" 3rd spinner....Not sure how Chawla or Mishra is going to make a difference until and unless they are in some "form" to take wickets against England

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:08 GMT

    Dont hold your breath...nothing earth shattering expected from Indian selectors....

  • on November 26, 2012, 16:21 GMT

    It was the most embarrassing test defeat for team India. The masters of spin bowling caved in like a pack of cards. Sachin tendulkar, oh yet again could not stem the rot as usual. When will you learn to bat under pressure cooker situation. You are at the end of the career, yet we have to watch an innings from you in crisis when team India needed you very badly. What is the use of scoring tons of runs in docile flat bed wickets. Sachin, time to go in respect or else the fan will drag you out of the team since BCCI is handicap to dump you for good. Sachin go, go and leave team India to upcoming players