England in India 2012-13

'India need Tendulkar now more than ever' - Dravid

Siddhartha Talya

November 27, 2012

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With the series against England level at 1-1, and following the poor performance in Mumbai, India need Sachin Tendulkar now more than ever, former captain Rahul Dravid has said, and he has backed him to perform in the rest of the series.

Tendulkar has not scored a half-century in his last ten Test innings and has managed just 29 runs in the three innings he's played against England so far in which he's been dismissed each time to spin. Dravid, however, said Tendulkar looked better than he did in the previous home series against New Zealand, and "who better than Sachin" to deliver in the next two games.

"I thought he was a little scratchy and looked a little under-prepared against New Zealand," Dravid said of Tendulkar, who prepared for the England series with a century for Mumbai in their opening game of the Ranji Trophy against Railways at the Wankhede Stadium. "Here, I know it seems strange to say after he's had three failures, but he's actually looking quite good.

"He's played a couple of straight drives, he's played a couple of shots that when I was playing with him, you knew he was playing well if he was playing those shots."

Tendulkar, Dravid said, had also been a little unlucky in this series. "He'll be disappointed with the shot he played to get out in Ahmedabad on a relatively flatter wicket, and then to see other people score runs. Here, he was a bit unlucky: the first ball that really spun on the first morning was the one that got him. Until then there weren't too many balls spinning. And then he played for the spin in the second innings and the ball straightened on a track on which every ball was spinning.

"India need him now more than ever. At 1-1 in a tight series, it's going to be very important for senior players to stand up and who better than Sachin to do that."

India went in with three specialist spinners for the Mumbai Test, on a surface that turned from the outset, but Dravid said, given that the conditions in Kolkata would be different, India would be better off with a combination of two spinners and two seamers.

Sachin Tendulkar fell lbw to Monty Panesar, India v England, 2nd Test, Mumbai, 2nd day, November 25, 2012
Sachin Tendulkar has played ten Test innings without a half-century © BCCI

"It's a different kind of soil, it does not break up," he said. "It's black soil, red soil [like in Mumbai] tends to deteriorate very quickly and if you leave it dry, it can turn and bounce a lot more than the black soil does.

"I think that's a blessing in disguise from India's point of view. They might have to work harder for the wins but it'll also give their batsmen a chance to be able to put up big scores, and to be able to show they are good players of spin."

Dravid admitted Dhoni had problems using his spin resources in Mumbai, especially with the availability of two other part-time options. "He's going to have to re-look at his combination, simply because it's going to be difficult to manage three spinners and especially having Yuvraj Singh and Virender Sehwag in the side who can also bowl spin.

"The combination they had in Ahmedabad was the best one, where they had two seamers and two spinners. Hopefully we'll see a normal Kolkata wicket. India have a great record in Kolkata, we've had a lot of success in Kolkata, because it is a typical subcontinental wicket. As it starts off, you can play your shots, there is something in it for the fast bowlers but it does spin."

Umesh Yadav will miss the Kolkata Test due to injury, and Ashok Dinda has been included in the squad having been named as cover last week. Should Dinda be picked in the XI, Harbhajan Singh, who bowled the least number of overs among India's spinners in Mumbai, may be left out.

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Posted by hhillbumper on (November 30, 2012, 22:59 GMT)

cricket is a team game.Unfortunately Tendulkar is the ulitmate individual and does not seem like the interests of the team are top. Is this a symbol of the fact that the individual is more important in Indian culture and has Tendulkar become the ultimate symbol of where the cricket culture of India has gone wrong.I mean look at the IPL.IS it really cricket or just an excuse for Bollywood stars to be seen.

Maybe you get what you deserve within your team

Posted by Tamil_SL on (November 30, 2012, 21:32 GMT)

This article has more comments than any other. It only goes to show what impact Sachin has had on Cricket globally.

Posted by dr.achandra on (November 30, 2012, 19:45 GMT)

" ... And then he played for the spin in the second innings and the ball straightened .." Mr. Rahul Dravid, that is a left arm spinner's classic wicket taking delivery .. Nothing to do with the batsman being unlucky, he just did not read it !

Posted by Nadeem1976 on (November 30, 2012, 18:54 GMT)

i just want sachin to keep on playing. these fans are foolish they don't know what legend is and how important it is for test cricket to have legends otherwise no body will watch test cricket at all. ah i still miss the legends of 90s and 80s. test cricket is nothing without legends.

Posted by Al_Bundy1 on (November 30, 2012, 18:30 GMT)

Sachin is a walking wicket these days. I can't believe even Dravid sold out to Sachin's promoters. A batting average of 15 - even tailenders like Ashwin and Pathan have better batting averages. I am sure that if given a chance, youngsters like Rahane and Tiwary can average much more than that.

Posted by   on (November 30, 2012, 9:49 GMT)

Ponting had dignity, every employee in life works till a certain age, contributes his part, and then becomes a mentor and lets some young blood take hold of charge for the country's future, every one did it, vivian richards, brian lara, inzamam, shane warne, McGrath, etc.... so does sachin, He has been on the limelight for more than 20 years, its time for a young boy to come and play for his country now, I hope Mr Sachin reads this and decides to let a youngster fight for india, Chapter Sachin needs a closure just like we are seeing Ponting retire today. Thank you for the memories Ponting, Sachin is next !!!!

Posted by maa_veeran on (November 30, 2012, 5:54 GMT)

If i am the captain of indian side i would make sachin to open the innings which could provide sachin his own time to regain his formbcoz no.4 position is not giving him time i feel. Either as in 1st test 1st innings where pujara and sehwag scores mounted pressure on him which would have made him to play risk shots.whereas in mumbai all indian batsmens failed. Will wait and watch for next game. I am sure sachin should open the innings with gambhir to answer his critics.

Posted by S-Matrix on (November 30, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

Some master batsmen who have played till ages older than Tendulkar's, owing mainly to technical robustness: Bradman, Hobbs, Gooch, Stewart. On the other hand, some other great batsmen who could not survive so long, perhaps owing to reflex weakening: Hammond, Ponting, Richards. There are both possibilities, and going by Tendulkar's technique, I would be tempted to put him on the first list.

Posted by   on (November 30, 2012, 3:45 GMT)

legendary performer of a cricket need 2 gain back form soon and shock england

Posted by Angry_Bowler on (November 30, 2012, 2:21 GMT)

Sachin is scared of Jacques Kallis, who will break all of his test records that's for sure. And his ODI records no one will care. Moreover, he is not a T20 player and which is the future. So, once he retires, he will be treated like another sunil gowasker. People will stop calling him GOD.

Posted by MasterClass on (November 30, 2012, 1:20 GMT)

The Sachin of 2012 is not his career average on paper. I can name you a dozen or more youngsters who can do far better than 29 runs in 3 matches, non-fielder, non-bowler. Sadly the description above IS the Sachin of TODAY, not his 52 run average. Does anyone think the Sachin of TODAY is irreplaceable?

Posted by Vik2660 on (November 30, 2012, 1:06 GMT)

Sachin is cricket God. We should let him play as long as he want because he has created records. He can open with his son in 5 years let him play please even he starts making ducks because he is leagent .

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

Its amazing how 200+ comments talk about Sachin when Dravid was 'also' talking about team and game as a whole. The Wall has played with Sachin - I think i trust him when he says, 'Sachin is looking good'. For better or worse, Sachin still continues to play, Still continues to sway our moods, Win or break our hearts everytime he is on field. Some arguments say he should retire, some say he should stick. Things are more grey than they look. The person we dote-Sachin-is a better judge than anyone else. I cannot believe that Sachin is misinterpreting such an important juncture of his life. Till he makes a decision, happy fighting for the cause- in which ever you believe. From teams point of view, I dont think BCCI or selectors have found a replacement for number 4. Yuvraj still struggles. Even in the top order Gauti is shaky as ever. Its only foolish to talk about sehwag's batting form and derive a pattern out of him. I think the good thing which has come out of all this is Pujara.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 19:15 GMT)

i would choose to agree with VSGCS , yes sport is a talent, it fades away with age, similar things happened with Michael schumaker, etc.... there comes a time in everyone's life when they just have to call it quits, this is life, life has to go on, the world will not end with sachins retirement, so be brave sachin, let alone ur selfish desires, and think of india's future, u are not 20 , u are going 40, so please, have some dignity and retire, i dont want to waist more of my time convincing u, thank u. All the best for ur new life after cricket.

Posted by xylo on (November 29, 2012, 18:09 GMT)

Having spent so long with VVS in shielding Sachin's weaknesses, but witnessing all accolades being directed to the little "master", it is only fair that Dravid gets to watch the master's true "skills", and have a good laugh over it. He deserves it, in fact.

Posted by NP_NY on (November 29, 2012, 18:00 GMT)

@sibiburhan: I don't get your point. You want to keep Sachin in the team because he USED TO BE good? I like Sachin too, but he is not bigger than Indian cricket! If he stops contributing to India's success (he is almost 40 and has failed in his last 10 test innings, at home no less), then he should retire.

Posted by Gaurav_Trehan on (November 29, 2012, 17:54 GMT)

sachin is the only reason I started to watch cricket 23 years ago. I still back him to get in form & Bow out on his own terms. Currently he is hitting ball well but unfortunately he is getting the ball which gets him out very early in his inning; Need a bit of luck.

I still believe youngsters so called MASTERS OF T20 perform only while playing against each other in IPL they even CAN NOT perform against fellow international players in Champions league. Forget if they will be any better T20 International player. Test player is only in their DREAM if they want to be.

Posted by buntyj on (November 29, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

and its likely that sachin's most uncompromising fans are between 25-45. its understandable. each generation has its hero. but no one can or should try to go on beyond their shelf life. and its true we don't have a replacement for sachin, dravid, vvs, viru and indian cricket may well be in for a phase of mediocrity and perhaps for ultimate decline unless remedial steps are taken asap which doesn't appear likely; too many vested interests; bcci will likely go down in history as a rich board but a poor steward of the game. and yes while i think pujara plays movement (spin, flight, swing, cut, seam) as well as dravid n vengsarkar and unlike them may also score big on flat decks, i believe he will be found out on bouncy tracks vs tall fast bowlers. and it remains to be seen whether he will then show at least vengsarkars courage (tho not many runs) or better like dravid convert a weakness into a mere limitation (dravid's record in oz was sub-par tho not bad n in rsa was well below par)

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 17:14 GMT)

This is why I was saying right from the start, Dravid and Laxman irresponsibly retired from International cricket. Yes, I do not want Sachin to go that way either. Dravid and Laxman should have been gradually replaced one by one one series after another making way for youngsters. Pathetic display (of temparment) from the so called next generation i.e. Yuvraj, Ashwin and Kohli (nothing personal about them or the skill level, but their application on home soil in the 2nd innings was disappointing). Remember, Pakistan were exactly in this position in the second test and Asad Safiq and the other guy put a lead of 175. Youngsters should show application in hard Test Cricket. Then they can ask the seniors to go away when the team is settled. As it is, Indian youngsters need to be taught how to play quality spin bowling by a Saffer (greatest irony of all times)!!!! BRING DRAVID & LAXMAN back. And remember, Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly shined in their first away series when and where it mattered

Posted by buntyj on (November 29, 2012, 17:04 GMT)

even after he is no longer in the team?

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 17:01 GMT)

I say this with a lot of pain, anguish and disgust. But I see India losing this series. Desperate circumstances require desperate measure. The squad for Australia's tour that I have in mind: 1. Virendra Sehwag (Captain) 2. GautamGambhir (Vice Captain) 3. Cheteshwar Pujara 4. Virat Kohli 5. Ajinkya Rahane 6. Manoj Tewari 7. Dinesh Karthik 8. R Ashwin 9. Pragyan Ojha 10. Umesh Yadav 11. Zaheer Khan 12. Ishant Sharma 13. Harbhajan Singh 14. M Vijay

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 16:39 GMT)

I think Dravid, The Politician is speaking here!! Sachin WAS one of the great player of our times...No Question about it...But time has come to move ahead without him in Indian team now...This aspect is forgotten by most here..Some fans(may be blind) ask where is the replacement of him? What I would like to ask them is that if there is no replacement for Sachin are selectors going to play him till he is 50 years? You have to use your available resources and compete..It happens in only places like INDIA where past laurels are considered for selection and not the current performance....Tendulkar might score CENTURY in Kolkata test and announce his retirement...But still his timing to announce will be WRONG & LATE...Because his place in the team is questioned....Most Great players have announced their retirement when they were least expected to...Cricket Fans than asked " Why you going?" But here fans are asking "Why you not going?"...Mr. Dravid you have mishit the point...

Posted by cricisme on (November 29, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

@DELHISANKAR, You live in the past. You must still be listening to 70's music and watch black and white films. Past is past, please move on or you will be left behind. Sachin is old glory......period.. Sachin made millions, made records but still not satisfied.... what is enough for this guy - such a selfish man.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 15:24 GMT)

Legends are rarely born in cricket!!..specially legend like Tendulkar, Kapi Dev, Gavaskar, Kumble, Dravid...but it is a bitter truth that everyone has an expiry date...even legends do, and it is evident that with every passing day Sachin is getting older, his reflexes are getting slower & one day he will ultimately retire. Though he can delay his retirement time by his EXCEPTIONAL SKILL which god has given only to few people, but ultimately that will come...& it completely depends on Sachin that when he wants to call it-off....till then we need good batting from Sachin. ALL THE BEST FOR NEXT TEST MATCH!!

Posted by Solid_Snake on (November 29, 2012, 15:20 GMT)

Sachin please just leave already..Go & work in Bollywood movies or do something else.Cricket is over for you

Posted by TRAM on (November 29, 2012, 15:03 GMT)

Dravid the great player is the worst YES MAN ever for the BCCI management. He was also least aggressive captain it looked like.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

There is an old saying in Kerala, in its local language Malayalam; the closest translation of which may go something like this... "Painstakingly draw water from the well for the whole day to fill the big earthen pot, and then break it in the evening; don't do that!"

Posted by buntyj on (November 29, 2012, 14:05 GMT)

will anyone stop sachin from coming to india dressing room in tests to provide moral support to the team and encourage youngsters

Posted by buntyj on (November 29, 2012, 14:02 GMT)

the best time to retire is when most people will ask 'why?'. you know you have left it too late and somewhat tarnished your image for posterity when in increasing numbers people instead ask 'why not?'. Sachin's well wishers will do well to read the opinions (some unkind and even unwarranted) here and elsewhere and give sachin the best advice. unfortunately, sachin (and indian team, selectors, bcci, critics, fans) have been in unreal denial of much that is wrong in indian cricket from the tour of england and thereafter.

Posted by sirviv on (November 29, 2012, 14:00 GMT)

There's too many Sachin sympathizers here. I'm not going to post stats or try to justify his selection/inclusion in the team. Rather, on what basis does a player get selected. "Way back in the day" performances or recent outings (please read 29 runs in the last ten innings for example). Secondly, hes not like Kallis, who has taken 240+ test wickets, so his only contribution is from the willow. He will "drag" out his career because he has the support network, as is typical in India. He is a brand name and his performances (or lack of) dont mean squat. This is the man India want to see, whether he scores or not. Its hard enough to draw a test crowd, and if you take away a legend, then you lose that handful as well. Cheers

Posted by sibiburhan on (November 29, 2012, 13:12 GMT)

A person dedicated his whole life for indian cricket..why the people are not realizing that.! Some interviews with sachin was forcing him to retire! its his love to the cricket and his love to the nation.People should review his ability and he tried his best on 2003 world cup.its unfortunate we didn't get at that time!.Plz see below stats! Sachin vs Netherlands - 52 [india score : 204] - india won the match Sachin vs Australia- 36 [india score : 125] - india lost the match Sachin vs Zimbabwe- 81 [india score : 255] - india won the match Sachin vs Namibia- 152 [india score : 255] - india won the match Sachin vs England- 50 [india score : 250] - india won the match Sachin vs Pakistan- 98 [india score : 250] - india won the match Sachin vs Sreelanka- 97 [india score : 292] - india won the match Sachin vs New Zealand- 15 [india score : 146] - india won the match Sachin vs Kenya- 83 [india score : 270] - india won the match! Its easy to say retire,tough to build a real legand!

Posted by Thyagu5432 on (November 29, 2012, 11:19 GMT)

The longer Sachin stays the more damage it would do to his reputation. I still cannot forget those two great innings he played against Australia in Sharjah. The first one he launched on the Aussie attack and would have resulted in an India win, if not for a howler from the umpire. And then the next match, the finals, where he scored big and won the cup for us. I still have memories of all those great innings he played in Aus, when all others struggled to even reach double figures. The Sachin that we are seeing today is a Shadow of what we have seen in the past. The more he stays what will stay in our mind is the struggle that he is going through now and not those great innings he played those days. For his own sake and his fan's sake, he should make way for somebody else and be a collegue to Dravid and Ganguly in the commentary box. Amen!

Posted by bumpu on (November 29, 2012, 10:50 GMT)

Much as I admire and respect Dravid as a cricketer and a gentleman of the game, I think the time has come for Tendulkar to call it quits. Take a leaf out of Ricky Ponting's book, Sachin!!!

Posted by UsmanAnsari on (November 29, 2012, 10:33 GMT)

Sachin should learn something from Ponting.. retire with grace..

Posted by Saibhai on (November 29, 2012, 10:31 GMT)

Dear DelhiSankar, and all Sachin lovers. It is not a record breaking contest for which we should want Sachin to somehow hold his position in team just for sake of playing cricket. Its Cricket a sport with matches won by team efforts, not sacrificed for individual record s & performances. Sachin gave his best when he was full of energy. Today Sachin is full of devotion, no doubt but the energy and importantly CONSISTENT performance is rapidly disappearing.

THINK ON IT !!!.. Its a choice ... TEAM represneting INDIA winnig matches or only SACHIN playing for records ??

Posted by Saibhai on (November 29, 2012, 10:22 GMT)

Hey Guys, Sachin's retirement does not mean he should sit back at home. He can help generate a much more powerful cricketing generation under his guidance, with his experience. There are million Talented young Sachin's who are waiting for an Opportunity. Perhaps SRT can help few to join theIndian Team. India has produced World's finest players in cricket history.

Sachin's retirement will obviously hurt million hearts. But if his retirement comes at a stage where people will remember him for his poor performances, than that will be the worst Fare-well for this greatest cricketing Legend.

Posted by DELHISANKAR on (November 29, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

Only the young people (below25 to 30 years)and rtired eleder cricketers having jealouse are talking out Sachin's retirement. Also SACHIN is the only one cricketer who has been appreciated when he made centuries and criticized when he is not scoring century. This clearly indicates that the fans of Sachin will never talk about retirement. Everyone loves Sachin's batting and expecting him to score 100 in all the innings which is not at all possible. He was playing well, made more records, we appreicated him now he is in poor form and will soon recover. We should wait and watch. He should not take hasty decision and it is not new to Sachin about criticizm. He come across such things so many times in his carrier. East or West - SACHIN IS THE BEST FOR EVER.

Posted by Saibhai on (November 29, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

Sachin Played for 20 Yrs, made and broken records, won matches, and still playing. You cant rewrite the Legends Glorious History nor we can imagine anybody to reach closer to his landmarks in distant future. BUt why do we foget we cannot expect Sachin to play the same way he use to play in his early career. We cannot expect him whopping, leaping and roaring like a Lion performance where ballers use to have nightmares dreaming Sachin as a ferocious batting Maestro. It is a gone era when Sachins Glory did scripted in Golden Letters with his performances. We cannot grab hold a running sand. People are shouting that millions wil stop watching cricket if SRT retires. The FACT is CRICKET made Sachin. Sachin did not made Cricket. But his glorious era did made millions of people enjoy the most wonderful era of cricket.

Posted by Ganapati9 on (November 29, 2012, 10:05 GMT)

This must be the joke of the year.Sachin has become an albatross around Team India's neck.It is sad none of the past players wants to call a spade a spade.Sachin is not India's future.He has never put team's interest above his.Unless one gives opportunities to youngsters how can one say that there is none to replace Sachin?When you do not give opportunities at the right time to budding players the chances are they fade away.How long can this team carry Sachin.His saying that he would play as long as he enjoys his game is nonsense.Can an employee say this to his boss in any organisation?He should understand that he should play as long as the spectators enjoy his game.They have stopped enjoying it three years ago.He should take inspiration from Ricky Ponting and retire soon after Kolkata Test .

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 10:04 GMT)

Anybody can go through rough patches in their life... I know Sachin is making error and error & letting their fans down but he is class player...n once Sachin gets his rythms right then nobody can stop him...!!!! Hope Sachin will probably perform well in next match....!!! & brings some cheers for their fans... !!!!!

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 9:41 GMT)

Please respect Dravid a little - he is not saying this out of loyalty or friendship. If Sachin leaves now, you're looking at a vacuum no newcomer can fill. Sachin should leave only when at least 6 solid batsmen are available in the team. Right now we have three and a half (Sehwag, Gambhir, Kohli and Pujara, who remains untested overseas). These 3.5 batsmen cannot come close to a team that had Gambhir, Sehwag, Sachin, Dravid, Ganguly and Laxman playing together. The balance, experience and value Sachin adds to the team is priceless (with him in, we have 4.5). I'm all for testing newcomers, and that's what should be done with Yuvraj's spot, and perhaps also through a system of rotation. When TWO *first rate* test batsmen are competing for Yuvraj's spot, *then* will be the time for Tendulkar to make space for them both. Right now, Rahane, Raina, Sharma, Chand etc, are not nearly in the same league (in TEST cricket).

Posted by DELHISANKAR on (November 29, 2012, 9:38 GMT)

Why Sachin should sacrifies his place to youngsters why not other team members ? even the youngsters are not proving themeselves and getting out cheaply. Take a survey of recent youngster's performance and commitments. If we all talkng about giving youngsters chance in indian cricket team then Sehvag, Zahir also to retire and give their place. Very soon Sachin will bounce back and start playing his own beautiful classic cricket. I am wondering how the elder cricketers also taking about Sachin's retirement? (jealous). SACHIN IS THE ONLY ONE MAN IN THE WORLD WHO GOT THE OPPORTUNITY OF MAKING RECORDS AND HE HIMSELF BREAKING HIS RECORDS AND GOING ON AND ON.... we should proud about this and instead of criticizing about him we should keep ourselves mum and watch his play. Let us pray for him and wait for his good innings. Its because of media such debates are being going on. What Dravid stated about Sachin is 100 % correct and fact. All the best SACHIN. You can do well.

Posted by Sachinisgr8 on (November 29, 2012, 9:33 GMT)

I think Most of the people who want Sachin to retire are all in the age group of 18-25 i think. Which means they have been following cricket at best fr0m lets say 15 years back or so at best.

They have surely not seen India play Australia in 1992,2004,2007 ( were you guys awake at 3.00 a.m. in the morning to see India play ?????). They must Surely have not seen India play SA or England in their own country.

All these new players whom you admire so much (The Rainas / The Tiwaris / The Kohlis / The Rahanes / The Pujaris ) are playing cricket only because of Sachin. Many young boys picked up the bat only because Sachin made it popular. Otherwise god knws where these ppl would have been. So my point is whats the problem in Sachin being littlselfish ?? earning some money ??

You guys have forgoten Sachin's contr. in the WC that India won because he did not score in Finals, go and check your stats. As far as reflexes are concerned , sure he has slowed dwn, but he will bounce back

Posted by gnanzcupid on (November 29, 2012, 9:25 GMT)

For all those who call for sachin's retirement, I have a question for you..Can u replace Sachin in Team India? Do you have an equivalent or atleast half the equivalent batsman to fill in his shoes??

Posted by buntyj on (November 29, 2012, 9:01 GMT)

ps- i will stick my neck out here- even if sachin , unlikely as it seems, scores a few runs in the rest of the series or season in remaining tests, can he go on the series of overseas tours commencing at end 2013 with rsa confident that he can at least maintain his average. if he's not completely confident wouldn't it be most selfless and in the greater interest of indian cricket overall if he retired now and the selectors could try others and see who they could take to rsa?

Posted by buntyj on (November 29, 2012, 8:59 GMT)

its a pity that likely out of friendship and loyalty dravid made this remark. the penalty for such talk and of sachin's that he felt he was batting as well as ever in eng and oz last year but was unlucky is that in later years when looking back at their career stats they and their supporters shouldnt be allowed to say ignore those last couple of years please and judge his place in history when he was at his best those who cling on know they risk deteriorating stats and less adoring judgement by posterity than by their peers. so be it. its abundantly clear that age has caught up with sachin

Posted by Saibhai on (November 29, 2012, 8:57 GMT)

Hey Guys, We all know that Sachin is a Great Legend and we are all greatful that we witnessed him playing all these years. He is a living legend because he played an era flly dominated by his batting performance. Everybody fades one day. Retiring does not means humiliation. Its time for Sachin to encourage new Youngsters to fill his place. It wont be easy but thats why he should retire so he can groom a new talent. His performances made him legend and again his lack lustre performances are questioning his selection in team.The selectors cant drop him becz of his Legendary status. We cannot overlook teams interest. Its TEAM INDIA we should look at and not only SACHIN INDIA. The team is above all. Sachin plays for India. Indian Team does not play for Sachin.

Every Legend be it Lara, Steve Waugh or Ricky Ponting retired so they can offer places for new energetic youngster. Therefore Sachin should also keep his Legacy with a timely announced retirement.

Posted by vpk23 on (November 29, 2012, 8:52 GMT)

One RT just retired. The current RT should now realistically set some goals & the timing before exiting gracefully. We all would love to see that. That is If one believes if Fairy tale Endings!!!!

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

Dear Sachin, Have you read / seen / heard the news from Perth? AboutRicky's decision? Does it inspire you to introspect and arrive at a decision, which is right for you, Indian cricket in general, and the future of Indian cricket in particular?

Posted by xsSandy on (November 29, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

I follow espncricinfo immensely and if this comment is also not published then I will stop writing.

I believe it is the captain who inspires. Dhoni has inspired enough in one day cricket but he can't inspire bunch of new n few old lads in test team. I see Cook crafting Compton into a supreme batsman. This is the role of captain. Take all the burden, pressure and ease off your mates. Inspire them, stand by them and teach them. But I do not see any of these qualities in Dhoni. technically he dsnt possess temperament and class for batting, keeping and leadership in test matches.

Its been a long debate now. India not performing, lets blame Sachin. Sachin not performing, lets call him selfish. There are enough problems in structure of Indian cricket and few God gifted lads (Sachin, Wall, VVS, KAPIL) will not win for India all the times against all other teams with competent coaching, technical staff and competent talent management struct.

Posted by ramli on (November 29, 2012, 8:22 GMT)

Dravid ... be specific ... India needs a "performing" SRT ... gone are the days when his mere presence would motivate youngsters ... at that time he was performing and setting an example ... nowadays he seems to be very resigned to himself ...

Posted by AswinSP on (November 29, 2012, 7:43 GMT)

This is the problem with us Indians. If we like someone a lot, regardless of how pathetic they are (for their own standards), we'll continue to support them. Statistically Sachin is among the poorly performing players in Indian cricket over the past few months. His selection in the team does not make any sense. The argument that he will be a guidance to the young players is also not true when he himself has a dismal performance. Still, many people continue to support him. Sad.

Posted by Aashish_goyal on (November 29, 2012, 7:42 GMT)

Sachin is the all time best batsman in Tests and ODIs,His records are the proof how much he has given to the world of Cricket, People talk about his retirement but i dont see any replacement from any part of world for his slot,On ICC Test Batting ranking,he is still number 1 from India. Those people are stupid who say that he is selfish,every run he scored went to team total and its not his fault that others were failing when he had all the burden on his shoulders,100 international centuries (20 against the best side of his era -Australia compare to Dravid's 02) is not a joke but is a fact.An avg of above 40 in tests against all countries,Highest run getter in almost all the world cups for India,Avg of more than 40 for almost 20 years in ODIs. He has always given his 100 % for team India. And another fact -Sachin is the REASON for popularity of Cricket after the 90s,I believe millions of people will quit watching Cricket once 'Sachin the legend' stop playing cricket.

Posted by FATEHALIHYDERI on (November 29, 2012, 7:32 GMT)

dear all, its really sad to listen about words for sachin, he is great player ever, from our childhood to young age, he is our ideal from his first-class career till now, ups and downs are the parts of life, what he did we have to consider, if mother not feed us milk now and wife giving us food its not mean we blame on mother, its life dear, be realistic and give more support to him for better cricket he play for all of us, insha allah he said do more then ever ................ our prayers with him, 100 years take become sachin............. love u all

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (November 29, 2012, 7:29 GMT)

Some of the comments on this site are truly amazing. If people cannot recognise a Great player when they see one they have no business following the game. I fully agree that Sachin should retire now but those who question his credentials as this country's greatest ever batsman to date don't know much about the game or else are just following it for the last few years. I also don't understand why one player has to be maligned so badly for another to be appreciated . Yeah Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_selfishkar that one's for you. As far as Im concerned Sachin, Dravid, Laxman, Kumble, Ganguly and many others are all players who have done India proud and u dont have to pit one against the other. Show some respect to a truly Great player

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 7:12 GMT)

The God should do well in Kolkatta. He will answer the critics with a brilliant innings. We are going to see the old aggressive Tendulkar and we are going to enjoy it. Who knows him better than the wall.

Posted by sibiburhan on (November 29, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

Sachin is a real legent! Dravid was the real wall for indian cricket.His analysis on sachin's play is really appreciative. Thier was a time when sachin started,if he took atleast 50,india used to win the matchs! if these young players got the chance in indian cricket , its because he made more passion in indian cricket for his 20 years. their was such situations, no one was thier to take shooting incharge in indian cricket. He did for our country for long time..scored many runs also with his small legs.!our concern he has to play till his mind loves to play and his health allows to play . thier should not be a deadline for him.We always loves to see him scoring runs.Come on sachin..as early..you can do it! nothing gone down!

Posted by sharidas on (November 29, 2012, 6:40 GMT)

There is every chance that Sachin will come back with good scores. But, I am sure that he will announce his retirement at the end of the series, in the wake of Ricky Pontings'

Posted by nareshreddy2212 on (November 29, 2012, 6:02 GMT)

why are people un necessarily criticize sachin for the loss of match.they are many other problems with our bowling(england spinners have taken wickets but our bowlers are not)and also dhoni batting.sachin should be there for at least 1 more year so that young guys like pujara,rahane,manoj thewar they will settle down.

and remove dhoni from the test team and give in a chance to dinesh karthik he is better keeper and batsmen than dhoni in test. first we need to find some better spinners and fast bowlers.zaheer is not able to maintian fitnes and he is poor fielder we need some good young fasr bowlers in the team.

Posted by sony_sr on (November 29, 2012, 5:52 GMT)

Its not more about india, but its for tendulkar himself I want him to retire. I simply can't tolerate people talking about him like this. This man has toiled hard for 23 years for a nation of 1 billion and deserves some respect.

Please don't try to compare him with every tom, harry and dick, if anyone had to face the expectations people had on sachin in the 90's and 2000's, they would have died of cardiac arrest.

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (November 29, 2012, 5:29 GMT)

@siddhant328, thanks for quoting me. You said, "he is not loving the game now, and stretching his career for uninterpretable reasons". Uninterpretable reasons? You sure? Do you think Boost, Toshiba and others of the ilk will let Statchin to announce his retirement without their permission, that too after they spent crores on him? It's Statchin's involvement in the murky waters of endorsements that pushed him into this ignominy. He just lost it. It's too late now. The legacy he is leaving behind is pretty tasteless. Had he retired sometime in 2010, his legacy would have been completely different for his fanboys. Had he not over-stayed, none of his fanboys would have had these horrendous memories of his pincodes. But then again, he himself said to retire on a high is selfishness. Who can help him? But he can't retire now (endorsement money!!!), though he has pincodes to show. My only concern is Team India. His greed for money is taking Team India down. Obviously, I hold him responsible.

Posted by drsambit on (November 29, 2012, 5:22 GMT)

Sachin has to be given a chance of going out on his own terms. He is a legend and can't be just thrown away from team. We love you Sachin.

Posted by sanmaha on (November 29, 2012, 5:20 GMT)

Sachin Please Retire end of England series u simply wasted 23 long year you have not played for India you have played for record and your selfish player like Gavaskar see Pointing he announced its retirement whole India is waiting for your retirement .

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 5:19 GMT)

Well, for the first time I couldn't agree more with Rahul Dravid. Sachin was unlucky during these 3 innings. Yes, he was under prepared against New Zealand but now he is getting out by some of the unplayable deliveries, which can take wickets on any soil leave Mumbai or subcontinent.

He will come back soon with a GOOD score but PLEASE don't pressurize him .. Indian MEDIA is doing their bit and let me tell you they are bunch of idiots nothing else, who have never played "Gully" Cricket now talking about Sachin and asking him to retire. WHAT A PITY.

Posted by TheTraveller on (November 29, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

He will be back. He should go like a champ.

Posted by jithun on (November 29, 2012, 5:11 GMT)

sachin dont want too retire from test cricket becz if he do that jack kallis will break his most centuries record in test in less than 1 year he is in supreme form since last 2 years and he is just 37 years old,,,,,,,,,,,,wake up sachin

Posted by gnanzcupid on (November 29, 2012, 4:38 GMT)

Subcontinent pitches are the best in the world. It help the batsmen who bat sensibily, it assists the technically sound seamers at some patches and it helps the spin bowlers towards the end. What a perfect mix. Im loving it

Posted by sagarjere on (November 29, 2012, 4:35 GMT)

why Everyone Questioning only on Sachin's Performance?? why Everyone blaming only Sachin ? Who is Playing well in the team Except Poojara who is Just New Comer(World doesn;t knw his weakness) ???????? Why?Why?Why? if its about performance then blame everyone not Only Sachin....Sachin is the only person becoz him Cricket is having meaning still.... So Plz Stop blaming Sachin,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Posted by bhrangi on (November 29, 2012, 4:20 GMT)

@g.narsimha: Cheers mate., i dont know why other team fans concern about Sachin's retirement. @Sachin bashers: Crow how much you want, sachin is not going to retire LOL

Posted by IndCricFan2013 on (November 29, 2012, 4:02 GMT)

Sachin will not retire before playing 200th test. 8 more to go. For that to happen he will go to South Africa. Sachin will not retire from ODI until he gets his 50th ODI hundred. Look at Dravid, Look at Ponting, just announced his retirement, Laxman, waited but still called a day before the start. Sachin says he left to the selectors and selectors would pick him again and again. I think he will score another 100 in Kolkatta and will make SA trip. That is the way things are in indian cricket.

Posted by HURRICANE.Sehwag on (November 29, 2012, 3:50 GMT)

I think Dravid made a typo. His thoughts are " India needs Tendulkar 'to retire' now more than ever". :D

Posted by g.narsimha on (November 29, 2012, 3:24 GMT)

immi2711-i cant understand the personel enimity u people have with our players particularly SACHIN, SAHWAAG , its our is uues, as u like . admire u r players we love ours no body compels u to accept ours are great , we never indulge in this sort of things on u r players , why u always in search of negitivities on ind cricket , pl concentrat on u r team , we are more than enough to take of ours .

Posted by GCGuru on (November 29, 2012, 2:22 GMT)

Don't compare SRT with KP or anyone pls.. Have you seen SRT's 51 centuries in Tests. Have you seen his first Century in perth?? Have you seen Sachin playing with Back pain for a century against Pakistan in Chennai? Have you seen SRT winning the match for India against England in that last time when they toured India? These are the small things which everyone remembers. But there are lots of things which no one remembers or just ignores when he doesnt score. He was the only person who is contributing with Bat till 1999 series in SA,Eng,Aus series..when he batted no one supported him and as it is a loosing match everyone started gaga saying like if he scores century we will loose..Check the stats till 1999 In each and every Tour, he was the top scorer for India. But with the Dravid,laxman and ganguly coming in, they shared the work load of SRT and he got some support, u can say even when he is not performing,other three takes care of it. Nw,India loses => SRT didnt play well. Is it ryt?

Posted by KarachiKid on (November 29, 2012, 0:42 GMT)

I think Dravid is just being a nice guy and a good friend. Tendulkar is past his sell by date. Dravid and Laxman were wise enough to call it a day without having been told to do so. In fact Dravid is still a more solid and reliable players than Tendulkar ever was, now or in the past !!!

Posted by here2rock on (November 28, 2012, 23:26 GMT)

No, India need someone who can score runs. Tendulkar has lost it, you can see it in his batting, getting bowled and LBWs almost every time. It is time bring in someone with fresh mind and liven things up for India. When you are constantly under the scanner then you are not going to perform. He is well beyond his use by date.

Posted by mansman on (November 28, 2012, 23:08 GMT)

@Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_Selfishkar, your hatred for SRT exceeds your love for RSD. What a wasteful way to live ones life where hatred towers above all.

Posted by Aashish_goyal on (November 28, 2012, 22:47 GMT)

Here people need to know that Sachin is still number 1 batsman from India in ICC Test rankings even though he is not in form for a year now.That just shows his CLASS.Chapter closed.

Posted by Raj12345 on (November 28, 2012, 22:35 GMT)

People talk about Vijay's 4 test failure, Mukund 4 test failure, Dhawan few ODIs failure, Badri's 2 test failures, etc etc. But they never talk about Tendulkar 10 test failure and shewag 2 years failures. We will run the show based on past.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 22:24 GMT)

those wanting sachin to retire, only shows tht even having the crickets god in our country,few dnt know anythng bout cricket..u and me are no better judges of the game than the greats such as dravid and sachin...sachin knows what is right for him..he knows when to perform,if u want watch the game or dont watch.. .stop blaming sachin and ask the openers and the spinners to perform so that we win the revenge series against england.. good luck sachin!!!

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 22:04 GMT)

@cricinfo- please block people who talk rubbish abt the game and the legends of the game.. @uksar - well, how can someone forget his match winning 155* against australia in chennai? or the 241* against australia in australia? you people celebrate when he succeeds, and critisize while he fails.. He is a legend and he knows more than what we do..

Posted by StatisticsRocks on (November 28, 2012, 21:42 GMT)

@Zain Khan, Your comments are 100 % true. In our countries we treat sports persons as heroes and no one in the selection committee or BCCI has guts to say no to Sachin. Australia will say no To Punter but no way this is going to happen in India. Retire with dignity Mr. Sachin. I am surprised to see the Wall supporting Sachin. Common Dravid speak your mind and not what people want to hear. Leave that to Politicians. No one, I repeat No One is more important than the country.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 21:41 GMT)

@ immi2711

HAHAHAHA...Nothing significant in 8-10 years...are you asleep? Who won INDIA the world cup? Sachin, Yuvraj, Virat and Gautam.. Your so called UNSKILLED PLAYERS.. Man..why am i even commenting on your accusations?? You have no knowledge of cricket..

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 21:22 GMT)

i agree its not an issue on sachin but also others batsmen like dhoni,kholi,...... etc not performance well, sachin would continue with odd matches also so that he get confident about his innings & matches he get rested for odds n calling back to test....y couldn't dhoni cum n play at no 3 yea 4.......

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 21:06 GMT)

The way sachin is playing now, a new person following cricket for the first time will raise his eyebrows and say 'is he the one who made 100 centuries' :):):)

Posted by Nampally on (November 28, 2012, 20:55 GMT)

England spinners got 19 out of 20 Indian wkts. in the Mumbai test after Dhoni asked for a spinning + bouncy wkt. from Day one, whilst Indian spinners gave away 500 runs to capture 10 England wkts. Huge contrast! Dravid needs to be honest in his comments with these stats.staring at him. This team needs customized changes to make it work. There is absolutely Zero Accountability. Players don't care when there are no penalities for failures. This happens only in India. It is more than Tendulkar's failure in batting. Ashwin was poor - Harbhajan was waste. Only Ojha bowled well whilst Yuvraj was mysteriously not used! The Selectors need some serious soul searching. Who is accountable for the Indian team's poor show? Yes, the Team Selectors. The expected results from each player need to be matched to their performance & failed guys swiftly replaced. Cost of failures must be Raised!.India has at least 20 fine young players waiting their turn. How can they get in when failed guys remain intact

Posted by Alexk400 on (November 28, 2012, 20:47 GMT)

I am viciously against any innocent punished because of some political issues. Sachin do not deserve his adulation. This is what happen when a country has no athletes and they try to find someone who they pour their love even if it is over the top. Sachin do not deserve anything except just record breaker. he is not a hero or role model (tax evader). He has done nothing to any one (no chairty.. no buidling houses for poor..nothing of the sort) except me me. I think society is corrupted when the people are praising a guy who do not deserve not single adulation from his country man. I think sachin did his job just like every other team mates. He is not great at pressure...what india need is young blood who is impervious to pressure...only thing young knows show off their new skill and power and we should allow 21-24 players to get chance. Keeping old horse for the sake of political correctness is really bad for the game. Bad for the moral. If you don't perform perish except for sehwag :)

Posted by immi2711 on (November 28, 2012, 20:21 GMT)

@Shiv Shankar Dayal > are you kidding me!!! obviously you have been watching cricket with your eyes closed. Being a Pakistani...and have watched play various teams, that is one thing I always marvelled about Indian players, there mental strength... Your top 5 or 6 batsmen through history have always been good. You are mixing yourself with god given talent/skill against someone who learned and mastered their skill. Players like Dravid & Laxman are players who learned and mastered there skills playing the games...and believe me Laxman is hands down better than Sachin will ever be. It is sad the Laxman & Dravid did not get their dues. Sachin/Yuvraj/Virat...these guys are not skilled players, they are natural instictive players, and they know only a certain way of style. You throw at them some talented bowlers like Monty/Ajmal/Steyn...these guys crumble. Sachin is good...but I think he is over-rated. He has not done anything significant in the last 8-10 years...

Posted by cricisme on (November 28, 2012, 20:13 GMT)

Mr. Dravid, I admire you very much but this is probably your first nonsensical statement I have heard from you. So either you are falling the pray of what a laymen wants to hear or trying to please your former partner. Anyone who knows a little or lot about cricket will tell you that Sachin is wasting time and keeping youngsters from making their careers. If you and he are so concern why don't you guys take a coaching role in Indian cricket and help the young lads instead. Any comments on that Mr. Dravid? Please next time don't shoot crap as people have now become smarter than you think.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 19:56 GMT)

@uksar: FYI , Sachin's first ever century at manchester was a match saving one . 119* at the age of 17 in english pitch . A new comer making adapting to foreign conditions and playing in the fifth day to save the match along with 7th wicket partnership isn't easy . Don't evr compare GODS and Legends !!! Please grow up!

Posted by sjashish on (November 28, 2012, 19:29 GMT)

Giridharan Jagannathan and mrcric32 : Seems like you ppl have lost it all.Either you have started watching cricket recently or the amount of matches you have seen till date are all in vain. Should we give you the detailed list of Sachin's innings and tel the most important fact that INDIA to reach the finals of any major tournament or to level a test series or to save the team's ass from a sarcastic defeat the master was always there and he has helped the team do that.Why would people like Dravid support him ? Do you think they are getting paid any better if they say things pro sachin ? Dont waste your time writing things which dont carry any weight-age here. He might be out of form, not playing well, not concentrating but above all you pessimists do the talking and he does the batting. wait for the kolkata test to start all you morons will stop blabbering.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 19:25 GMT)

I see a bunch of people with no knowledge of cricket bashing this guy now..

Sachin--retire and make way for new talent...! Are you serious? Is the talent which is currently in the team justifying itself? PUJARA did..but Did Virat and Yuvraj make a statement?? Virat, part from 2 big innings has failed miserably in TESTS..yea, he did wonders in ODIs but as all of you say, TESTS are different than ODIs and you all are bashing Sachin for not being a match winner in tests and all.. And YUVI..Such an inconsistent player..Go over the stats of all the players who represented INDIA from 1990-2000..you'll see so many players playing just 3-4 tests and thrown out of the team..it doesn't happen now..otherwise YUVI could have been out of contention for the no. 6 spot by now..

When your no.5 and no. 6 are not permanent, why are you WHINING about no. 4 only and asking him to get out and make way for no.4 only?? WHY only no. 4?

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 19:10 GMT)

@ Giridharan Jagannathan-- Are you serious??

Dravid, Ganguly and Sehwag have played in a team which has been shadowed by Tendulkar.. But Sachin, for the first half of his career played for a team which was shadowed by Below average batsmen, Gentle medium pace bowlers and LAZY fielders.. Out of his 100 centuries, India have lost only 25 matches..Rest are Draws or Wins..and one more thing..If India had an attack like the Saffers do and if they ad a fielding unit like Aussies do., India would have won way way more matches in his presence.. REMEMBER 1998 CHENNAI?? Second Innings classic, Sachin played with back pain and almost took the team to win but unfortunately,, after he got out, other 3-4 batsmen failed to make even 15 runs..He never got any support from his team in his initial years and when he started getting support, he took the Indians to WC final in 2003 single handedly and won the WC 2011 with a collective effort..

Posted by Aashish_goyal on (November 28, 2012, 18:58 GMT)

SRT will come back soon because legends cant have too long lean patch.

Posted by mobileqweass on (November 28, 2012, 18:57 GMT)

I was reading the comments....also I have listen to bishan singh bedi's comments.what they are talking I think they have lost all their senses;they are just keeping on insulting the one whom we call god of cricket.don't ever forget he is there till this age bcoz team requires him..and people want to see him playing. its is due to him and kapil dev that people in India are mad about cricket not becaz of bedi first achieve that level and then comment about him.

Posted by PMKKR on (November 28, 2012, 18:40 GMT)

India need Sachin in the dressing room as a batting coach and occassionally play some matches if captain wants him to play in eleven.

Posted by uksar on (November 28, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

Mr. Dravid pls. speak up the truth and don't try just to please your former team mate. I am also a cheap SRT fan as he can make century so often. But look at Petersen's last century; not a single of SRT's 51 centuries can be comparable with this one. Even in his 23 years carrier he could not pull off a victory/draw by scoring a good century, what will he do at this age? when the pitch is challenging or the match is in the pendulum, he resigns early always.

Posted by Nampally on (November 28, 2012, 17:10 GMT)

@Harshad K Trevedi: I was questioning why Yuvraj was not used while the Mumbai & even Ahmadabad Tests were in progrees almost on each day of the Tests in my Cricinfo comments.Mind you Yuvraj took 5 for --- vs. England in the first match!. Sehwag was rated as the best off spinner in India by Bedi even when Harbhajan was at his peak. So these 2 are not part time bowlers but good spinners. Dhoni's selection of XI + on field tactics are always irrational. No one seems to question him. Einstien's quote about insanity applies to Dhoni. He never learns from Mistakes & is a huge liability. My 2 questions to Dravid are how can the same batting cope with Panesar given the possibility of similar pitch at Kolkatta? Also has India got a new bowler with lot of bounce & spin to counter Panesar? I have 2 suggestions: Replace Harbhajan with Rahul Sharma to counter Panesar + Bring in Tiwary to replace one of top 7 batsmen. This makes sense to have special batsman when Yuvi is not being used as a bowler.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

@Mike_Tyson No one in this world can counter the fact that Sachin is one of the greats. And if someone does then he is ignorant. There cannot be a comparison of performances between greats and ordinaries. MSD, Gambhir, Yuvraj are merely ordinary players. I will exempt Sehwag from this list because he belongs to different class than these. MSD has different problems. He has more mental problems than anything else.

I have seen cricket for last 20 years and found that Indian players do not possess mental strength. Even Sachin has rarely fought with tooth and nail. Dravid was strong in defence. The way you play your natural game contributes a lot to your mental strength. Sehwag can possibly never bat at 40/4.

The point is Sachin is a great player and he is not playing like great and that is a big cause for worry.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 16:33 GMT)

Who knows SRT better than Dravid? The senseless media may talk nonsense, but that doesn't change the fact that form is temporary, but class is permanent..... Hats off... :-)

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 16:25 GMT)

Unlike Dravid or Laxman or even Shewag and Gambir, Sacin has not won any match for us. He may have played very well but not under pressure. Maybe once in a blue moon he has. But take a look at the test history and it will be obvious that there are no 2nd innings classics or any partnerships with tai lenders or a great counter attack. Yes he has played when India were in a good position or when all was gone. So a straight on drive alone is not enough. A far lesser batsman like Faf did a great job. We need fighters not great lovely 20s. He may add value in the dressing room but a quiet 80 is better.

Posted by mrcric32 on (November 28, 2012, 15:59 GMT)

just can not understand why these people like Dravid and Gavaskar advocate for Sachin so much? Sachin was never a backbone of the indian batting and would never be. He shouold have retired a long time ago. He's unnecessarily occupying a place which can easily go to a yougster who can serve india for another 10-15 years. Sachin cant score on swinging surfaces, he cant score on seaming conditions and NOW he cant score on spinning tracks. Make some flat tracks where he can score some runs and say good bye. He really needs to step down and make room for some promising youngster. Stop advocating for him if u really need india to win. Please post.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 15:32 GMT)

I wonder if many Indian fans will stop watching Cricket when he's gone.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 15:26 GMT)

Its surprising that Dravid keeps on talking about Yuvraj and Sehwag being there as optional spinners and also Dhoni had said Sehwag was a good spin bowler, after Ahmedabad Test, but Dhoni did not even try him once in Ahmedabad or Mumbai...specially when Ashwin was not effective at all.And when he, Ashwin, looked like getting into his rhythm with the wicket of Cook he was removed from attack and new ball taken with Zak and shared with OJha not Ashwin who had just struck ? There definitely is Captaining issue here ! What would Dravid like to say about that ....can you guys pop a question ?

Posted by Mike_Tyson on (November 28, 2012, 15:02 GMT)

@ Shiv Shankar Dayal, You need to read my post again. My post was in response to the other poster, I never said Sachin is batting great now. He is struggling, everyone can see that. My post was mearly in response to someone saying he has never produced outside the SC and against bowlers like Donald, Walsh and Ambrose. I'm not here saying he should or shouldn't retire but it's annoying when "fans" make inaccurate statements just because the guy isn't batting well at the moment. Btw why just sachin, why is there not as much talk about the retirement of MS, sehwag, gambhir, yuvraj?? What have these guys really done in the test arena the last 2 years??

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 14:37 GMT)

Wanna see Afridi, Misbah, Ponting, Sachin, Sanga, Mahela playing for another two or three years.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 14:28 GMT)

Sachin is the the first player who got all (batting)records in both test & ODI matches.some of his records are unbreakable.We should be proud of sachin.

Posted by hard_hitter_guy on (November 28, 2012, 14:21 GMT)

I think Dravid is little bit diplomatic here with his comments about a good friend and a long time dressing room mate. We cannot hide the fact that Sachin is struggling bit with his eye sight, which will happen to any great player, due to ageing. That is why he is frequently getting out to incoming balls. In his prime he will dispatch those deliveries with ease through on side. But now he is missing the line frequently and falling over it, getting bowled. Now he can start considering about retirement from a career that was extraordinary and inspirational.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 14:03 GMT)

I agree with Mr. Mayan, he may have the most runs but not a match winner, when compared to players like Lara, Gilchrist, Richards, Steve Waugh, jayawardena, pieterson. Kumble, Srinath, Dravid Laxman & Ganguly have all contributed equally to indian cricket just like Sachin as did. Not sure how is he different from these class performers and the board be so biased. India need a coach like Greg Chappell who had the guts to ask the captain to sit out on a abroad tour due to non performance. System needs change if not next world cup would victory would take another twenty five years, number one status in tests would take thirty years. I love indian cricket's success as i am true indian. Cannot bare my country losing because of selfish cricketers like Tendulkar

Posted by brusselslion on (November 28, 2012, 13:59 GMT)

It's sad to see a former great hanging around too long. Dravid went out close to the top. All SRT is doing at the moment is tarnishing his reputation (and lowering his average!).

Posted by EverybodylovesSachin on (November 28, 2012, 13:47 GMT)

Sachin is the most watched player in the history of the game. Every stroke and inning he plays is being scrutinized and Sachin is responsinble for that having set his standard very high since the beginning of his career. He is truly a master of the batsmanship..

Posted by InnocentGuy on (November 28, 2012, 13:45 GMT)

I think I'd rather take a not-so-super-talented-but-hard-working Manoj Tiwary over a (once) talented player like Sehwag. Because Tiwary knows that he is never assured of a place in the team and has to constantly perform to be selected, especially since he isn't a star or a prodigy. Better a hard-worker than a prodigy, seriously. Sachin, Ganguly, VVS etc were all players with special talent. While they had their days and brought fame to the team and the country, the downside is what we are witnessing now. Not only is SRT in denial, but all his fans (including the selectors) are in denial, that they just can't let him go. We want to keep giving them chances even if they keep failing because the few times they do succeed, it is magical! But is it not better to have an unglamourous winning team than a magical inconsistent team? I'm sure I'll be as happy if Rayudu were in the team and hit a century and beat England as I would be if Sachin did.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 12:52 GMT)

oh god.. hats off to him the way he deals with this kind of huge and unreasonable expectations and.. the pressure that comes along with it.

Posted by RaviNarla on (November 28, 2012, 12:51 GMT)

I don't know how many of us here played cricket at highest level or at least club level. To score like Sachin will take forever to achieve that. I would not say he is the best among the greatest but he is one among them. For a player of his caliber to have NOT scored 20 in last 4 innings, 50 in last 12 innings, 100 in last last 27 innings is an aberration. Hope he overcomes and end his career on a high note.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 12:46 GMT)

@Peter_Jones2012 are u joking...Donald was classically assaulted many times in SA by SRT....See SRT test century in SA when every Indian batsman were struggling....and he has exceptional record in overseas....Get your stats clear...Walsh and Ambrose too tasted blood against him...I think u r following cricket for last 2 years only. Don't be zealous...Learn to respect gr88 cricketers. @Sriram Somasuntharam Bad analysis bro...pent off your anger to yourself..

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 12:45 GMT)

@Mike_Tyson Agreed but that was past. 2002 you are talking about. That time Sachin was 30. I do not take age in account but consider a young player. Will you give him such series of failures of 2-3 years. Look at Sachin's record. Terrible. If I were Sachin I will prepare harder than ever remind everyone of the same Sachin which was 16 year old at some point of time by thrashing this ordinary English attack compared to Sachin's standard and say goodbye to cricket.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 12:37 GMT)

From the readers' comments, one has to sift the grain from the chaff. There are some who question Sachin's contributions to Indian cricket in general (absurd) and to Indian victory in particular (exaggeration). Those comments are just chaff. Bot don't ignore the comments requesting Sachin to retire gracefully, for the future of Indian cricket and to protect his hallowed image in the minds of millions of cricket lovers in India and abroad (those comments have more than a grain of truth, and genuine concern)

Posted by Nandu_Athadu on (November 28, 2012, 11:48 GMT)

its funny when people say that SACHIN perform only on batting conditions and say that he has never won a test match for India...please check the records of him away from india (sub continent)...when they say he has never won a test match for india...go check out the 2008 chennai test match with England...people will forget the basic thing is that Cricket is a team game and no one can single handedly won the game...

Posted by A.Ak on (November 28, 2012, 11:43 GMT)

This article just shows how good Dravid was in his mindset and his attitude which is always positive. Sachin is a great too. He had to perform to show his pride and retire after. Only think I am not sure is, Does he still have the fire that destroyed every bowler he played against.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 11:41 GMT)

Many people say that Sachin should end his career in a high note. But how should he? When he scores a century or wins a world cup he thinks he is now licensed to play another 20 tests. In the process he starts doing low scores again that prompt fresh demands for his retirement. So, the problem is when he is on a high he retires not, and when he is on a low he wants to be on a high to retire.

Posted by vish57 on (November 28, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

No cricket present, past can ever comment about Sachin Tendulkar as he is a phenominal player for India, more so contempories like DRavind,VVS, Ganguly,Kumble will not make any negative comment as they played more than 100 tests together

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 11:33 GMT)

he may have most runs but definitely not the best batsmen,

Posted by Narayan.Shastri on (November 28, 2012, 11:21 GMT)

A few weeks ago, I read expert comments by Sunil Gavaskar saying that Sachin often gets out to fuller-length deliveries - either bowled or leg-before-wicket. You may recall that, in the 1996 World Cup quarter-final in Bengaluru, how India exploited Javed Miandad's ageing factor by frequently bowling full-length deliveries to restrict his scoring. Javed scratched around for some 40plus runs with a low strike rate. New Zealand bowlers too executed the similar plan successfully against Sachin, who was bowled in all three innings.

Even if Sachin thinks he want to make the highest Test score record, it appears highly impossible as of now. He should gracefully retire without delay, else he might lose goodwill of admirers worldwide.

Posted by Mike_Tyson on (November 28, 2012, 11:14 GMT)

@ Peter_Jones2012, one average series against England doesn't mean he hasn't done well against Eng bowlers. Please look at overrall records before making silly remarks, I was at Headingly in 2002 when he hammered our attack, I also watched the 1996 series in Eng at the grounds when he smashed us everywhere. As for Donald, Ambrose Walsh, take a look at the centuries in SA 1996-97 aganst that very Donald who didn't have an answer as well as 100's against Walsh and Ambrose in the WI. Also Walsh and Donald have said Sachin was the best they have bowled to, I would take their word over people like you.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 10:59 GMT)

Dravid has hit the nail on its head. Sachin is actually playing well but has been unlucky...I feel that Sachin should keep playing until its is time for him and maybe after the Australia series next year is something he can think about....having said that it is totally upto him....Sachin is my all time fav person (besides sports as well)....i just pray that he contributes in the next 2 matches and keep doing so going forward....Nice to hear Dravid still supporting Sachin...love that man too....Sachin, u can do it.

Posted by Baber_Baloch on (November 28, 2012, 10:36 GMT)

There one only player in Cricket History..Imran Khan He left the game at his peak and with great respect....same respect also he has now...People want just win ,,after some downfall people & meidia make player Hero to Zero.....So in historu forever Hero is Imran Khan

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 10:34 GMT)

Every1 wud agree with 2 facts: 1. In the last 10 yrs or so, except for VVS, Dravid and to some extent Viru, India haven't had great players of spin bowling. With due respect to SRT, he hasn't been great against good spinners - Ajmal, Saqlain, Murali, Ray Price(??), Monty, Swann,......... 2. After Kumble retired, India haven't had good spinners - Ash and Ojha are decent if not good bowlers - they need a spin spearhead to follow which unfortunately we dont have. Both these problems will never solve by themselves in the next 5-10 years as they both are heavily linked to the status of the domestic pitches and matches played on them - these as we know, will nnnnneverrrrrr change. Probably MSD needs to understand these facts and ask for pitches like Motera where we can botch up a huge score and make the opposition suffocate. If it is like Wankhede, we are going to struggle for sure.

Posted by Kirk_Levin on (November 28, 2012, 10:34 GMT)

Amusing to see Indians going crazy over this player, who wouldn't be get selected in a county side. He hopelessly failed when he toured England and showed little fight against our bowlers. In fact, throughout his career, Tendulker never did well against ambrose, walsh, donald etc. Just good for playing at home in good batting conditions.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 10:09 GMT)

Abosuletly ,as virat said after the WC final "Sachin has carried the burden of nation for 22 years" ,he as a nation has given us many moments over his carrer to celebrate . We have celebrated every century he has scored,every magical knock of his as its our own .Now when he is going through a rough patch ,we must stand by him and support him ,if you cant dont celerate too .

Posted by anver777 on (November 28, 2012, 10:08 GMT)

Great players like Sachin should always end his career in very high note........ every Sachin fan will love to see, him get few big knocks in the remaining 2 tests, silence the critics & then think about the retirement in a more respectable manner !!!!

Posted by sks_1984 on (November 28, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

Wise comments from Rahul. I was also thinking SRT should retire , but Rahul does bring up good points. One has to respect his insights as a player. His comments about soil conditions and Sachin's innings can only come from an experienced player.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 10:06 GMT)

y we all are talkin abt sachin's retirement..but we dnt talk abt dhoni..he is also doing nothing rather than complaining the bowlers....

Posted by prabachris on (November 28, 2012, 9:51 GMT)

well india need is not only winning this series.they have to groom young batters & bowlers for the future series .even though i am fan of india, i deperately need india to lose to get rid of the past glories like sachin, sehwag,zaheer,harbajan etc AND this will happen only if india lose this series badly 1-3 AND for the well fare of indian Cricket this time we need to lose other wise these former best players of the world will sail an another few yearsby playing and will block the chance for the young upcoming players.

Posted by UAETigers on (November 28, 2012, 9:45 GMT)

dead tract, flat track and most suitable track for Indian batsmen now to score runs!! Dravid and VVS scored all over the world. did they were offered their favorite track all the time?

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 9:38 GMT)

As an opposition please tendulkar don't retire...you can hurt us

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 9:30 GMT)

don't agree with Rahul, cricket is not a game of if and but, he need to be more realistic these if and but can apply everytime, if SRT was not save by DRS in world cup semi final India might not win the world cup 2011. SRT is a great cricket not question about it, but sorry Mr. Rahul Dravid his time is up.... :(

Posted by 777aditya on (November 28, 2012, 9:22 GMT)

This is nothing but hero worship, and I wrongly assumed that people of Dravid's stature would be above such things. This is the opportune time to breed youngsters. Sachin may well score his 101st century, but it would be much more important for India's future if Rahane scores one. Sadly, Sachin is undoing the selfless retirements of Dravid and Laxman. I remember in the past Manjrekar calling Sachin 'selfish' - but now he too has fallen in line. I hope even Sachin acepts that home test series is the best time for a youngster to establish himself.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 9:19 GMT)

We all say Sachin should retire; few say it good way few bad way.. But lets face it who do we have to replace Sachin position and add it with a backup player for all 3 middle order. We already cannot fill the position of Dravid&Laxman. Kohli had been inconsistent and victim of his over selfconfidence, Yuvraj has been patchy, Mukund has failed whenever given opportunity, Raina can only be effective in sub continent pitches or limited overs, Rohit has been waste of god gift, Rahane who knows how well he ll peform, Tiwary has not been tried. We need some one like Pujara in wings for few season n ready to be replace the legend. Which unfortunately is not happening in Sachin case. I would Sachin to play alternate tests but be with the team. Interact with youngsters and get them blended in international scene. In short there is no immediate replacement for Sachin and he should carry on for few more tests.

Posted by stFleming on (November 28, 2012, 9:18 GMT)

Another man came in Sachin's support...Sachin Tendulkar is a genius and truly a great batsman...But he is not a GOD...He is a human being and his time to retire from cricket has come...Every batsman in international cricket had suffered this downfall at the end of their careers...Rahul Dravid himself is a big example...He is supporting sachin but he had forgotten how his career ended this year in January...Its time now for Sachin to retire or else his average might reduce to 50 in near future...

Posted by BDforever on (November 28, 2012, 9:14 GMT)

In consideration of Sachin's poor form in last few years we could see many better batsmen like Tamim Iqbal, Umar Akmal batting better than him. But if you consider those players career performances Sachin is still ahead I guess.

Posted by bhrangi on (November 28, 2012, 9:08 GMT)

@ramli: I am not taking Sachin anywhere., I am talking about current team, is it valid to compare sachin with lara ?? Now discussion is about sachin's place in playing XI, I asked what other 10 players are doing in the squad? I asked what Dhoni is doing., is it because of Dhoni's past glory, then why cant sachin play for the same??. every time INDIA fails whole world point out at sachin and leave others. About the IPL auction, it is you own imagination.

Posted by vvsquare on (November 28, 2012, 9:05 GMT)

Sachin has to stay there for India....In the absence of Dravid & Laxman, India have a depleted batting lineup which ws exposed badly...& as of now we dont have a real replacement for sachin....( please dont mention rahane & rohit sharma as his replacement and raina shud take voluntary retirement from test cricket :D )

Posted by Ram-i on (November 28, 2012, 8:44 GMT)

1st..@Ultimatewarrior..know your facts mate. Pujara was injured (knee) during IPL and was out of cricket for almost year and half. He is playing competitive cricket only since 2012 April...He is back in the fold as soon as he was healthy. Why do seniors retire? No transition happens smoothly. If SRT retires, someone new will come up. It might not happen very next day. What we currently are is in a transition phase where Dravid and VVS retired, so two positions are being filled in for.If SRT was performing through all this, it is a different ball game but even he is not performing which leaves a big hollow in the Indian Middle Order. And all people can do is blame MSD. SRT does not have the reflexes..MSD should be axed, Indian spinners did not bowl well...MSD should be axed, Indian selectors dont have guts,,MSD should be axed. Grow up fans of India! Let them play a game, as if satisfying Indian fans was a small task.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 8:34 GMT)

Can't understand these comments of Rahul "It's a different kind of soil, it does not break up," he said. "It's black soil, red soil [like in Mumbai] tends to deteriorate very quickly and if you leave it dry, it can turn and bounce a lot more than the black soil does. "I think that's a blessing in disguise from India's point of view. They might have to work harder for the wins but it'll also give their batsmen a chance to be able to put up big scores, and to be able to show they are good players of spin." to me this sounds like if the wicket is not turning enough, we can show that we are good players of spin.... cricinfo! please publish....

Posted by Asric on (November 28, 2012, 8:13 GMT)

we all are talking abt sachin's retirement..but we dont talk abt dhoni.In last two tests what dhoni did.He scored only 50 or 60 runs..

Posted by mano.mcse on (November 28, 2012, 8:08 GMT)

Tendulkar has not scored a half-century in his last ten Test innings and has managed just 29 runs in the three innings he's played against England so far in which he's been dismissed each time to spin. Dravid, however, said Tendulkar looked better than he did in the previous home series against New Zealand, and "who better than Sachin" to deliver in the next two games.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 8:01 GMT)

Sachin is among the good batsman of the last 2 decades , but I think he should have retire on a high after winning the world cup. Now with the poor form he is running more critics will come . He should have retire on high like Dravid , Ganguly , Hayden , Adam Gilchrist though these players have cricket in them but they left place for new generation players like Kholi , Raina & now Pujara , on Auses side Hussey brothers , Clarke , Brad Hiddin. All that done in past is history now , cricket now is so fast with the concept of Survival of the fittest .

Posted by Wacco on (November 28, 2012, 7:59 GMT)

Sachin's batting has now become a matter of research than effectiveness. Its beyond imagination, how India is going to rebuild. India's way of rebuilding is giving more opportunies to the aged and the much tested players. I have no clue on the basis of what performace Yuvraj gets into the test side. Its no wonder India are not elite in cricket anymore.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 7:55 GMT)

It actually looks like a sadistic uproar when people shout without any analysis.

Posted by bleedblue_sach on (November 28, 2012, 7:33 GMT)

People always wants Sachin to perform and he delivered his class most of the times... There were times when Indian cricket has been an ONE MAN ARMY with Sachin.. every other bowler main target is his wicket... And even now, if the legend delivers one more classy innings, all these folks who are criticising will again praise him...this is happening since very long ofcourse!

As any other Master's fan, eagerly waiting for that perfect Master's Cover Drive, that calssy century again from his weapon... Good luck Master!!!

Posted by rtruth90 on (November 28, 2012, 7:25 GMT)

Statschin Tendulkar plays for records. He will not retire until 2023 world cup

Posted by bhrangi on (November 28, 2012, 7:25 GMT)

@johnathonjosephs : Agree with you., As an Indian, i felt ashamed on my fans behavior. But there are few haters who always waiting like a eagle for his failure. I don't know may be they are regionally separated or something else. I wonder why no one talk about Dhoni. They will say he is world cup winner, if that so Sachin is 2 time WC man of the series, in last WC he put considerable performance. Among VVS and Dravid, Sachin is consistent performer outside INDIA. If we calculate from 2011, then what Dhoni, sehwag and Gambhir did in that period. @Sachin haters : you can crow here how much you want, nobody cares

Posted by Narayan.Shastri on (November 28, 2012, 7:09 GMT)

Whatever Rahul may have said here, Sachin should retire gracefully, like Rahul, when the runs dried up. Else people will definitely compare Sachin's story to that of "The Emperor's New Clothew".

Posted by ravi-1967 on (November 28, 2012, 7:06 GMT)

Not denying that he is not playing well. But who is? Nobody talks of Sehwag who has become a complete liability to the team. His attitude is definitely questionable. Like Sunny said India have the ODI mentality while playing test. I have been iterating this for quite a while, IPL is definitely killing Indian Cricket.

Hope and pray that things turn around for the great man and the team in Kolkata.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 7:03 GMT)

Past is past....all of us respect him what he has done to CRICKET...but based on his past glory, place in the team could't be given.....he is old lad let him take rest..!

Posted by drsambit on (November 28, 2012, 7:02 GMT)

now sachin should answer all his critics by his bat as he has done all his career. It would be exciting if this happen

Posted by mlkt on (November 28, 2012, 6:49 GMT)

dont ask for his retirement...its upto him to decide...bt what we can ask is that atleast he should contribute to the team cause.....and he can help it even if he is not scoring heavily...ie by encouraging and promoting youngsters......eg. when pujara came back and was given no3 spot, kohli was demoted to no5, and u can see that kohli's performance has dipped at that spot......no doubt pujara has proven to be good at no3....bt the point is that VIRAT KOHLI EVEN IF HE WAS DROPPED DOWN ORDER SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN NO4 SPOT BECAUSE HE WAS THE BEST PERFORMING INDIAN BATSMAN AT THAT TIME.....bt he was not given no 4 spot because sachin even if not performing cannot be asked to drop down......

Posted by ultimatewarrior on (November 28, 2012, 6:48 GMT)

I will be sound very tough if I say Rohit Sharma / A Rahane / Manoj Tiwari are better than Kohli / Raina / Yuvraj but its very much true in TEST(long form) at least....Earlier MSD had resisted for atleast 2-3 years to not giving enough chances to C Pujara whose control over technical cricket and performances were continuously calling for his inclusion but he was mostly left in favor of Raina/Yuvraj ultimately team paid the price and Dravid/Laxman who are still better than Raina/Yuvraj had to Retire little prematurely...And today the same theory is being applied to make SRT Retire...God knows when our selectors will dare to call a spade a spade...I guess India is having enough population to have 6 specialist team for all 3 forms of cricket(test/odi/T20) and 2 types of pitches(fast/spin)...

Posted by skumar77 on (November 28, 2012, 6:47 GMT)

Not sure if India needs Sachin or Sachin needs India more.

Is Dravid considering the mental angle? Is Sachin really that geared up to perform and even if he is, is his body willing?

It is sad to see a great cricketer play this way.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 6:46 GMT)

Sachin as always will play in IPL but will not play in T20 for India. He is clearly eying 200 Tests cap. However he prolongs his career maybe 20-30 tests he should remember one day everything has to come to an end and his end will come too. I do not say that he should retire but if he plays he must make runs else I do not need to remind what happened to his idol Vivian Richards. He can play 10 tests more by the weight of his runs and contributions maybe 20 what after that if he does not contribute. How many tests can he carry himself on those runs scored in past?

Posted by Romenevans on (November 28, 2012, 6:43 GMT)

Mr. Tendulkar is having a nose dive after reaching the peak of his career in 2010-11 and it is becoming quite embarrassing and im afraid if he won't retire now he will be facing more embarrassment similar to what happened to Ganguly. Greed can spoil the hard work of 23 years....

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 6:35 GMT)

if sachin plays ... advantage to england

Posted by PSYGangnam on (November 28, 2012, 6:29 GMT)

Dravid, your are excatly right 'India need Tendulkar now more than ever' but you did not finish mate should read 'India need Tendulkar now more than ever' TO RETIRE !!

Posted by Gladkick on (November 28, 2012, 6:24 GMT)

@ johnathonjosephs - Mate, I couldn't agree with you more. Indian fans must be ashamed of themselves for torturing this guy to this level. The haters just do not have any respect for what he had done to their country. It shows how narrow minded these hatters are. Its just that they are so adamant in believing that its a team game with 11 players in it and NOT JUST SACHIN TENDULKAR. This is the time as a nation you guys need to support Sachin to perform well and end it on a high note instead of demotivating him and pulling him down. Afterall, the fans were the biggest motivation for him all this time!!! Shame on you folks.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 6:19 GMT)

I think it's nice that he's sticking up for his mate, but India could probably recall Gavaskar and he'd get about as many runs. However, I feel Tendulkar has earned the right to be the first man to 200 Test caps (which is clearly the only reason he hasn't retired) plus for each game he plays England know they have at least two easy wickets.

Posted by BeatTheChamps on (November 28, 2012, 6:03 GMT)

Batting averages of the India 'regulars' in the last 10 games: Gambhir: 30, Sehwag:35, Kohli:44, Dhoni:35, Sachin:30 Nobody seems to be performing well except Kohli to a certain extent. No point in blaming Sachin alone. (haven't considered Pujara here as he has just come back into the team)

Posted by Akshita29 on (November 28, 2012, 6:02 GMT)

He is not getting any younger . He is almost 40 now . He is an absolute liability on the field . He can still score some runs with the bat though or may be even a century in the next match who knows . But he is not going to stay till 2013 SA tour ,he would be 2 old to face styen in SA by then and we need to groom a youngstar for that series unless we dont want to see another 0-4. And the thing is Sachin has achieved everything he wanted . May be the only thing is that he wants to play an magical destructive innings in foreign soil on a greentop and then retire . But thats not going to happen . He is too old for that . Punter on the hand wants to play one more Ashes and have let his known known in public. He is already dropped 4m ODI version and if he fails in Perth I have no doubt he would be droped for sure . As for India we always go for emotion rather than result and professionalism . Sachin would never be dropped and if he scores a half century in the next few innings he would not retire . The only thing is that he would continue to lose fans specially among the younger generation of India .

Posted by dadasupporterNO.1 on (November 28, 2012, 5:51 GMT)

no one has anytihng against sachin eveyone knows how much he has done for indian cricket...he may even score hundreds in following matches....but den hw our younger generation will get to play against good attack? i think dis is d best time to call it day not bcoz he can't play anymore but coz players like rahane,vijay,tiwary will get chance to play against quality attack of aussies. and den we can hope for good performance by them in AWAY series....

Posted by YorkshirePudding on (November 28, 2012, 5:40 GMT)

I do feel that SRT has reached the twilight of his career, and hes intimated as much over recent months. He has been a great servant of Indian cricket over the last 22 years, and has the respect and admiration of fans from around the world, however batsmen need to perform at the wicket, and having scored (from memory) 1 test century since the SA tour of 2011, shows hes not performing to his exacting standards.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 5:31 GMT)

Sachin Tendulkar may have had a great record against spinners and as Dravid says, who better than Sachin to stand up and deliver when the team needs it. But what Tendulkar should remind himself is that he made that great record for himself by dominating bowlers and not by scratching around. Dominance is a mental thing and I am not talking about the silly mind games he tries nowadays by playing chips over the in-field and other cheeky shots. I am talking about the kind of dominance he showed against Shane Warne and Co. in the memorable home series in the late 90s and early 2000s. If he does that successfully for a few overs against Swann and Panesar, he will have won most of the battle!!!

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 5:31 GMT)

Its gud to c DADa un Wall backing sachin !!! :D :D they know s caliber un strength..

No 1 n the team is performing enough.. so cant blame sachin alone.....

sachin concntrate un break this debate on ur retirement...

Posted by VivtheGreatest on (November 28, 2012, 5:24 GMT)

Dravid was a great cricketer, one of the best India has ever produced, but being diplomatic and politically correct isn't the right thing now. I've seen Sachin playing from his first series in Pakistan in 1989 against an awesome bowling attack. Still cant forget the way he hammered a bowler of Abdul Qadir's calibre in a one- day match at the age of 16. Having dominated some of the greatest bowlers ever seen through the 90's and early part of this century he is now getting out regularly to much inferior bowlers who he would have slaughtered in his heyday. He has nothing left to prove and should call it quits now with dignity. His performances over more than two decades ensure that he is the finest batsmen ever produced by this country, whatever people on both sides of the debate feel

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 5:19 GMT)

Indian team should totally change their XI

Posted by rashmi4cricket on (November 28, 2012, 5:15 GMT)

Dear friends, most of the players have been failed in the current England series. Are we talking about the retirement of all those players? No na, So why we are talking about the retirement of sachin. Is it the solution to Indian cricket??? Lets don't talk abt sachins retirement and hope that team will play good @calcutta to lead the serie and hope our master come strongly.

Posted by cuteabu on (November 28, 2012, 4:59 GMT)

My super star mind in lot of disturbance and confusions. Dut ot lack of form and confidence. He has to spent more time .That's only possible to play straight , straight and straight. Keep the bat down for 4 or 5 overs. The above techinques he knows better then you and me. But My recent fears continues ...Everytime When Sachin went to bat the first 20min I pray My ALLAH , sachin should play AS straight as possible. But last few failures of Clean Bowled and LBW due to cross batted shot or mistiming.Peopeles started crticise Sachin..Our Love and Respect is only this much to Sachin...? The value is this much only we have for sachin ?I am really tearing dears,,,,, My sachin is compelete man...may be he is disturbed deeply because of recent failures. People of India and Fans, Co players & Commendators should have faith on him and should not comment and advise him like Junior Player. He is the Master batsman. Sure My ALLAH give him more concentration and Confidence .I need 70 atleast in 1stin

Posted by arun_gga on (November 28, 2012, 4:59 GMT)

One of the most balanced comments I have seen about Tendulkar. We all know what Tendulkar is going through. Dravid has neither blamed or protect him. He has perhaps just put the facts in perspective. He is not talking like Sourav who just wants Tendulkar out because he is not there. Same thing with Dhoni. Sourav etc want him sacked, but Dravid has put it so nicely that if Dhoni improves his balance between his instinctiveness and reality, he will come out as a much better captain. I saw the 2nd days play at Wankhade and cannot really understand why our bowlers allowed the 3rd wicket partnership to accumulate so many easy runs. Dhoni never tried to slow down the game which is also required. What was the reason to bowl so many extra overs on that day. India were bowling as if India had scored some 600 runs and if we do not get adequate no of overs, we will not run out of time. We were careless not to defend our 300+ score and kept attacking like spending without having an eye on bank a/c

Posted by gkhur on (November 28, 2012, 4:58 GMT)

If his presence is necessary, make him the mentor...He is being very selfish by continuing. Youngsters are not getting enough chances just because he is not retiring

Posted by SamRoy on (November 28, 2012, 4:52 GMT)

@UglyIndian Thanks for the best quote in the comments column in a long time. Couldn't have said it better myself.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 4:47 GMT)

Sachin is the the Greatest batsman in the world , but he should take retirement before people start syaing that sachin you should go , I dont want the bad end for my favourite batsman , as great people have great ends .

Posted by amitramani55 on (November 28, 2012, 4:36 GMT)

Anyone should not force to retire from Cricket for Sachin Sir, It's time to enthusiast to play more Cricket for Sachin atleast for ODI & Tests.

It's time to be have atleast in India Test Cricket Team, Players with most Experience, Passion & to have ability to play big innings in Test Cricket as follows :

Sachin Sir, Dravid Sir, Laxman Sir & Ganguly Sir

I think we should recall to play atleast Test Cricket. Right now India having no any special Test Players from any of young stars.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 4:31 GMT)

I have celebrated, danced, enjoyed, partied, discussed and had a ball when His swashbuckling knocks won matches for INDIA. So isn't it my duty to stand by His side and support Him when He goes through a rare lean patch? Those who don't care to stand, don't dare to enjoy.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 4:26 GMT)

i would like to see sachin to paly next 2 test and i do blieve that sachin will make a hundred .

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 4:25 GMT)

@Ram Kumar Sharma - Are you not Indian as well? What's the "You Indian..." for? :S

Anyway, Tendulkar remains the only player in our team who has seen India play so badly before - remember the Australia series at home in 2004? He's the only one who can inspire the team to lift themselves up from the hole that they've dug themselves into.

Posted by Sooryan_Indian on (November 28, 2012, 4:16 GMT)

I think you should retire from cricinfo comments. Your comments are neither thought provoking, nor genuine. Do not try to create negativity on any particular player in public forum so badly. Especially sachin, as we didn't even achieve 1% of what sachin did. It is easy to talk, difficult to do. Did you complain when India won the world cup in 2011 without dravid? Also did you criticize sachin by that time for winning the world cup along with the team?

Think about the past. Leave sachin's retirement to himself., Try to comment which should develop good thoughts among people. Do not use this commenting option just to criticize any individual so badly. It's a request

Posted by hnlns on (November 28, 2012, 4:13 GMT)

I think it is the gentle nature of Dravid that makes him say these soothing words about the little master who has become flop show master for quite some time now. But RD will know more than anybody that SRT's time has come to call it quits because Dravidl himself quit under pressure because he got out bowled so many times towards the end of his career, which was most unlike the "wall" and he knew that his rock solid defence was no more with him and his technique was faltering. Same is the case with SRT now and it is only appropriate that he should follow what Dravid did with such grace.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 4:07 GMT)

Tendulkar days are gone. one must realise that. every dog has his day.same with Pointing. go for youngsters.give them a chance.no one lives forever. sio let's face reality and get reed of old folks

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 4:03 GMT)

I dont know what Rahul Dravid found encouraging in Sachin's batting. I watched his 2nd innings at Mumbai, he was almost stumped and barely escaped. He was beaten a couple of other times and looked very tentative. Except for the straight drive for 4 there was nothing encouraging. Monty has the measure of Sachin for now!

Posted by BDforever on (November 28, 2012, 3:58 GMT)

Though Sachin failed in his last few innings he's still a better batsman than most of Indian batsmen who are not consistent as Sachin. If Sachin can get some runs while keeping his fitness he can even play untill 2019 WC. Age doesn't make any sense.

Posted by sachinanddravid on (November 28, 2012, 3:53 GMT)

Now all are talking about the form and retirement of the Master.I ll read all of your comments after the retirment of master that if Sachin will be there then the result of the match ll be different,that days are not too far.all need to know that when sachin is in very bad form he is used to come with big scores and he used to close the mouth of the peoples who commented about him.like he did in cb series finals against australia. He need to be there in the playing 11 to give some tips to the youngesters who just started to play test matches.

see the commitment of him when he was fielding.eng was just short of 15 odd runs but he was chasing the ball,not like yuvi.and see the way gauti batted its totally selfish innings. ponting is in same form like sachin and they have some prooved players for that position but still they are backing ponting. but at the moment there is no youngster who can replace sachin in india.and why we are all talking about his retirement.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 3:51 GMT)

As all know that cricket is a team effort, not individual, the people who are talking about retirement of Sachin, according to me they were right when all team members perform and team wins but only Sachin was not able to perform, looking at the scenario we all are forgetting the poor effort of our bowlers who fail to get wickets like there counterparts and the other batsmen of team India who failed to get runs...

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 3:45 GMT)

In recent time sachin is sure out of form. He should retire and give chances to youngsters.Even his 100 th century came after long time only with bangaladesh.He can`t play long game now as he is too aged. Pls resign country is important than indivdual performance. You will get great reward if you retire within this series.

Posted by ADI_GUNGALIYA_FANTASY on (November 28, 2012, 3:38 GMT)

Totally agree with dravid, Sachin has been very unlucky in this series.

Sachin is also needed to motivate youngster to how approach test matches especially kohli & yuvi.

Dravid understand the indian cricket better than anyone i think .

Posted by Anwaruzz on (November 28, 2012, 3:29 GMT)

Sorry Dravid !! I cannot agree with you. As this is a tight series moreso IND needs to rope in new performing players like Rohit Sharma, etc., instead of SRT. SRT is a genious one sees in a lifetime but like everyone else they gradually fade. I hate to see the sad spectacles when he is beaten or bowled by ordinary bowlers these days. All 100% of his dismisal shows he lacks the mobility needed in the crease due to advancing years. SRT please retire and let us remember the brilliant you foreever.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 3:19 GMT)

Now the time is for young batsman.You Indians always talk about Sachin why not about rest.Days of Sachin are gone. Pujara,Kohli,Yubraj,Raina should play good cricket for India and there should be penetration in balling to win the match.

Posted by mdreddy on (November 28, 2012, 3:13 GMT)

Indian fans are over reacting about the team combination,especially questioning about sachin place in the team.look at the ponting form, also great aus selectors giving the faith on him. I hope Sachin may be thinking with graceful stage to retire,deserved for that, especially team failed to deliver the best in the match. Dhoni need to re assess his career as player in the test squad.Selectors need to take the decision on future,I hope team can perform better in the remaining matches.

Posted by sureshkanagala on (November 28, 2012, 3:03 GMT)

lol. India needs Dravid and Laxman more than ever. Their absence was clearly felt in the Mumbai test.

Posted by Sooryan_Indian on (November 28, 2012, 2:49 GMT)

Sachin is like a volcano waiting to erupt. As most people say FORM IS TEMPORARY, CLASS IS PERMANENT. Likewise this lean patch that sachin is going through is temporary and he is the man who has faced many such situations and overcomes it as he is a masterclass batsman. Sachin has nothing to prove to anyone as he has done it all in this game. As THE WALL rightly says, it is sachin to whom we should obviously look at if we have to perform and win in coming matches.

People started criticizing him for not retiring. retiring is something of his own wish. He started it all, so he will end it all as well.So lets not interfere on that and support him to perform. Now that will show our support to a true champion. That is what THE WALL is doing here. I would like to say one thing, There is no replacement for sachin the batsman and sachin the cricketer. because he offers more than his batting on the field. His presence in any match is a huge knowledge database along us on the filed.

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 2:45 GMT)

For all of your information Sachin has most no of man of the matches along with all the other major records..one more thing a batsman can't win a test match single handedly unlike bowlers , look at his records abroad and compare with any one else s record abroad you will see the difference. But no pointing in telling those to guys who are jealous or don't know much about cricket, make no mistake during most of his carrier he played for a team who is below per and Indian bowling is so poor that any one can prepare a bowlers paradise and win against india, this strategy won't work for other teams with good quick bowlers , so in his era he probably played in adverse condition than any one else. But u people are so biased

Posted by siddhant328 on (November 28, 2012, 2:41 GMT)

@Dravid_Gravitas_Statchin_Selfishkar : I think you hate Sachin more than you love Dravid. I have been reading your comments for quite long period. You have always been a critic of Sachin and an ardent fan of Dravid but this is a new thing I have discovered...that you have written "Shame" for Dravid just bcoz he is backing Sachin in latter's tough period. I too, don't like the proceedings of Tendulkar after World Cup as he is not loving the game now, and stretching his career for uninterpretable reasons, but here Dravid has said whatever he feels about Tendulya. Dravid knows Tendulkar's game much better than you and me and it would be wrong to say that Dravid stated all these things only in emotions. Don't worry, Tendulkar will retire some day for your pleasure.

Posted by IdleSpectator on (November 28, 2012, 2:33 GMT)

What a complete contrast between SA vs Aus and Ind vs Eng matches; in one Faf engineered a draw where as in the other Gauti could not even last one session!

Posted by deepak_sholapurkar on (November 28, 2012, 2:24 GMT)

Unfortunately Dravid and Ganguli are becoming next pair of Shastri & Gavaskar :(

Posted by sohaibahmad on (November 28, 2012, 1:33 GMT)

England should bowl slow half volleys to the 'unlucky' Tendulkar, hope he doesnt miss those and get bewled

Posted by   on (November 28, 2012, 1:18 GMT)

It is ridiculous for people like Gavaskar and Kapil Dev to demand retirement of Sachin Tendular, even on just fall of his hat. Indian team really need someone to cheers them up. To me, his mere presence in the dressing room is a big morale booster for the likes of Pujara and all. The youngster can really get some tips and lessons on field from the master. That is a big contribution to the game. It is not necessary to just reflect on the board always, but the way Sachin is encouraging them all as a model cricketer to play as per the rules, without any tarnish on such a long career; the BCCI must let Sachin be there on the field for this very purpose. I fully support the inclusion of Sachin in the Indian Team.

Posted by mysecretme on (November 28, 2012, 0:55 GMT)

There is an element of truth to what Dravid says. I for one feel Sachin was looking very good in second innings before he got out.

Even Gambhir was looking good, but he lost his confidence when others got out. Despite him being a very good player of spin, I think he never batted with the tail before and got lost in those concerns.

The players I am worried about are Dhoni, Yuvi, Kohli and Sehwag.Yuvi did not look good at all. Sehwag and Dhoni went to play unnecessary defensive shots when they could not reach the pitch of the ball and Kohli got out playing shots to fultosses. Sachin atleast got out to good balls.

These guys are getting out to half trackers and meat balls.They need to put their head down and play long when they get in.

Especially, Sehwag and Dhoni should forget defense. Instead, they can concentrate on hitting the ball into gaps, like they do in LOI's.

Posted by vrn59 on (November 28, 2012, 0:52 GMT)

Although this will not go down well with several Indian fans, Dravid is right: Tendulkar is the final pillar of the famed Indian middle order of the last decade and he needs to stay in the team for at least another year, if not more. Although some of the younger batsmen do look promising, they are not bringing the house down either and there is easily room for Tendulkar, who should be treated as just another batsman who is temporarily out of form. Gambhir and Sehwag are a decent opening pair at home, and Pujara and Kohli are key to India's long-term goals. Dhoni's Test captaincy is abysmal and should be awarded to Gambhir immediately. His keeping and batting should be scrutinized and his place in the Test side should be questioned. Rohit Sharma is a better bet than Yuvraj at No. 6. Apart from Ojha and Yadav, the entire bowling attack has lacked bite and nip. Zaheer is unfit, but is still bowling decently. Ashwin has too many T20 variations and Harbhajan bowls too flat. Terrible!

Posted by johnathonjosephs on (November 28, 2012, 0:40 GMT)

Indian fans are the most ungrateful fans in the world. Never even dreamed of seeing the day where the fans would talk against Tendulkar but I guess I have seen the day. Everybody falls out of form here and there, but to talk against players who formed the backbone of the country's team and who broke almost every single batting record that exists? No player should endure this torture. Why aren't people directing fingers at Dhoni instead who asked for a spinning wicket and who's batting is so bad, that even Ashwin has a better Test Record/Average than Dhoni? But yes, of course, blame the old warhorse instead of the hyped up horrible captain

Posted by Subbs_97 on (November 28, 2012, 0:30 GMT)

A sad commentary on indian cricket, isn't it, when a highly respected former batsman syas that a 39-year old batsman is "needed" to shore up india's batting! When will this stop? Enough is enough. We all love and respect Sachin, but he is blocking youngsters from taking responsibility and being groomed for the future. Look at Pujara....he has stepped in to fill Dravid's shoes with aplomb, maybe there is someone younger and more hungry to do the same with the #4 spot...In any case, waht India needs now are good bowlers more than batsmen...we have spinners who cannot spin the ball, medium fast bowlers who move in the field as though they were on a Sunday afternoon stroll, fast bolwers who keep gettign injured...the lsit goes on. IPL has fashioned bowlers to simply last 4 overs- defensively. Why bother to go on longer? There is no money in it...

Posted by Farce-Follower on (November 28, 2012, 0:08 GMT)

RD - please don't sacrifice your professionalism. To say he has been unlucky is the worst form of defence. You are bigger than your Indian audience. The rest of the world rates your judgement highly. Don't become another Gavaskar or Shastri. Your credibility will be doomed for ever.

Posted by moscowman on (November 28, 2012, 0:00 GMT)

I do not know why a lot is being written on Sachin? He had played,earned unheard of amounts and has set records. Now it is time for him to go,ON HIS OWN ,soon. It is said .."GO WHEN EVERYONE IS ASKING 'WHY" AND NOT "WHY NOT". I t is time for him to go instead of dragging on agonisingly, .And Dravid need not give out any such statements. India has to build on youngsters instead of depending on about to retirees,hoping they may click. They have to retire some day,is it not? WHY NOT NOW?

Posted by Alexk400 on (November 27, 2012, 23:36 GMT)

Dravid stop speaking for yourself . start speaking for team needs future...enough of the nonsense of duncan and dhoni. They lost 8-0 nothing happened. Now they lost in mumbai in india...its was stinging stinking defeat for india. People need to start doing stuff...BCCI grow some brain do something...I know chopping every time we lose is bad but what about 14 test? When we lost 8-0 , dhoni said same thing....if you do not change when you lose , you are not learning from defeats...This is what happen you keep depending on luck...hoping you get lucky soon out of blue moon...not happening. All non performers has to go except sehwag. :)

Posted by Alexk400 on (November 27, 2012, 23:32 GMT)

Dravid the politician speaking now!. Talking politically correct when he needs favor. People should stop listening to dravid...his methods never worked when he was capatain. How it will work now...i am fan of dravid as a player. He put team infront of everything. Truly team man. But his advises may look good in the outset but its a bad strategy. We need young blood with full of explosive energy to burst..not old dead horse...time to dump sachin along with duncan fletcher and dhoni...if BCCI is smart ...ask sachin to retire on his own end of this seres...DHONI is done if he lose this test series.

Posted by Naeem578 on (November 27, 2012, 23:10 GMT)

Now this is dilema! a professional like dravid who was always upfront on the call of his country in tough situations supporting someone who has always let his country down on big days and who is only a god of stats and records and not the god of fight n courage. Dravid plz don't get emotional rather you should have reminded 'srt' that its time for him for the sake of your country.

Posted by Nampally on (November 27, 2012, 22:23 GMT)

Dravid has been making some really odd comments for a Cricketer of his status. First he praised Dhoni as Captain & we saw a royal screw up by him with mouth talking but poor battong & WK &captaincy.Now comes the second pronouncement backing Tendulkar. SRT has been dismissed bowled in 3 previous test innings to seamers & now he has 3 outs to spinners!. Is Dravid waiting for 3 runouts next? SRT is at sea both against spin & Pace.Clearly he is past his best & he must retire gracefully.Time & Tide wait for none. SRT's time has come to call it a Day. All Fans will miss him but that is Life!. SRT, ZAK, Harbhajan must announce their retirement. Sooner the better. I also strongly urge Dhoni to retire from Test cricket. His WK & Captaincy are poor. His batting technique & footwork is all wrong. He should just focus on ODI & T-20.Clearly these 4 are hogging youngsters spots in XI. Pujara must be the skipper, Saha the WK, Tiwary for SRT & Rahul for Harbhajan, Yadev for ZAK. Encourage Youth!

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 22:10 GMT)

There were 5 other front line batsmen in that collapse. Aussies didnt need Ponting's contribution to post that mammoth total against SA. They did it without him. Someone else needs to step it up in order to take over the mantle from Sachin. Pujara did well. Besides him the youngsters have been a disappointment. Kohli has had a forgettable series as has Yuvraj. Same with Gambhir. Before bringing Sachin down, India needs to build another capable batsman to take his place. Kohli, Yuvi are getting plenty of chances to show up. Time for them to deliver in tests. Otherwise drop them from tests and keep them for shorter formats and try out other youngsters to take their place. India is yet to find a stable no 6, since Ganguly's retirement. And now we need to find replacements for Laxman and Dravid. Pujara shows promises. But we need more to replace the trio.

Posted by aby_prasad on (November 27, 2012, 22:02 GMT)

BREAKING NEWS, did u guys hear!! ??? sachin finally tells selectors that its up to them to take a call on him being in the side and that he isnt making enough runs to confidently say he wants to play!!!!! check link http://www.hindustantimes.com/News-Feed/Chunk-HT-UI-IndiaVSEngland2012-TopStories/I-m-not-getting-runs-now-it-s-your-call-Sachin-to-selectors/Article1-965244.aspx

Posted by gestapo on (November 27, 2012, 21:46 GMT)

@joby george,,i can't agree with u more,,u summed it up...dhoni is not test class,,severely exposed. I don't think any indian captain inc. sachin would have lasted this long to be the captain after that 0-8 drubbing,,he's a great T20,Odi player.

Posted by haq33 on (November 27, 2012, 21:21 GMT)

He is just sounding like dhoni now, lots of words without actually imparting any kind of magical information, notwithstanding the contradiction.....so Calcutta will turn and bounce less and at the same time, this will be an opportunity for the Indian batsmen to show us how well they play spin?? Sorry Dravid, Mumbai was that chance and kp and cook showed you how well they play spin. I wish pundits would say fewer words but actually make sense.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (November 27, 2012, 21:10 GMT)

Dravid, in his analysis of why Tendulakr got out, can't even bring himself to say that superior bowling got him out. "And then he played for the spin in the second innings and the ball straightened on a track on which every ball was spinning." - Maybe that's because Monty Panesar tricked him with the straight 'un Dravid? Just maybe you might open your eyes Raul, don't make a joke out of yourself.

Posted by Front-Foot-Lunge on (November 27, 2012, 21:07 GMT)

Just keep playing Sachin, keep playing. There's a whole lot so of English bowlers looking forward to bowling against you in the next test.

Posted by SanjivAwesome on (November 27, 2012, 21:04 GMT)

I disagree with Dravid. I accept I don't have the credentials of Dravid. As a fan, the potency of Sachin's capabilities as he ages and as oppositions study his slo-mo videos is such that he is now a liability to Team India. Of course he is a great and much admired player. And he will always maintain that accolade.

Posted by UglyIndian on (November 27, 2012, 21:03 GMT)

To quote Harvey Dent - "You either die a hero, or live long enough to become the villain". Tendulkar could have retired as a hero, if he had hung his boots after India won the WC. But he chose to drag along....and has now, well and truly lived long enough to become the villain of the piece.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (November 27, 2012, 20:37 GMT)

It is very seldom I find myself in disagreement with the great & gentlemanly Rahul Dravid. I'm just not sure what his agenda is here. Expressing confidence in a player of SRT's stature should never be necessary! It's almost as if RD is bolstering SRT's lack of runs or form with kind & encouraging words. The very act of so doing tells its own story. So this, I think, is the subtext: you are a great player & just occasionally a stroke of yours reminds me of the player you were. We (all Indian supporters) so desperately want you to re-find your form. Please do it! In other words RD is expressing faith based on memory & little current evidence that his idol can roll back the years & do it all again. The truth is SRT hasn't fired for a while now & his eyes must have lost some of their eagle-like sharpness & his reaction speed is falling away. It's called getting old, & it happens to everyone; it's just that RD & SRT haven't quite realised it. He gets more mortal by the day, as do we all.

Posted by crktcrzy on (November 27, 2012, 20:30 GMT)

All Dravid gained from a comment like this was lose some of the enormous respect I had for him. I saw a similar comment about Ponting earlier in another column. We know when these veterans have their buddies speak out for them, they are just trying to catch at a straw. You ruled for too long King Tendulkar, your time is up. Period.

Posted by luks on (November 27, 2012, 20:14 GMT)

I think Dravid is a little bit wrong about Tendulkar. Dravid is a little bit of a nice guy and he won't speak against Tendulkar even a little bit, to make sure he doesn't antagonize anyone. If only Dravid was a little bit less diplomatic.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 20:01 GMT)

@Jordanmacmillan88 - your comment is hilarious mate. just wait for kolkata and kanpur and the series will end at 3-1. your doubts will soon be cleared.

Posted by sportofpain on (November 27, 2012, 19:56 GMT)

Well said Rahul! In Mumbai we sorely missed VVS - he was the kind of person who always delivered when the chips were down and turned the game around with his fluent strokeplay. The value of experience is in situations like this. There is a reason Sachin is still in the team - because he is good enough and still has the desire. He will fire. And so will Yuvi - expect a different Indian in Kolkata. @Dravid-Statchin - your dislike of Sachin is apparent to all. Perhaps that clouds your judgement. England would like nothing more than a crack at India without Sachin. Not happening. Look for a rousing performance from the team in Kolkata. Want Bhajji to play as well given his outstanding track record there. En of day if choice is between Bhaji and Dinda or Ishant, the records speak for themselves..

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 19:12 GMT)

Dravid India needs you more than ever, You were the back bone of our test team, come back you can play 10 more years. You are the man !

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 19:08 GMT)

Rahul Dravid is the best Test batsman and a Mr. Perfect cricketer India had ever produced.We respect you, you contributed lot to indian team without being selfish. You kept wickets, batted as opener and was ready to adapt to any situation. Its sad to say that this Indian team is below standards. I think India are well behind AUS, ENG, SA, SL, PAK and NL. In which part of the world will some selectors select Zaheer Khan? he is not at all fit and cant even field. Also, for the betterment of the Indian test side and for the well being of our future spinners, give a full stop to Harbhajan Singh who still plays just because of ind-aus home series in 2001-2002. Dhoni is not apt for Test cricket, poor Technics (agree that he is a great ODI captian and he is one of the best ODI player and so is Yuvraj). Gambhir is class and has caliber to play test cricket. Gambhir, Pujara and Kohli are the only players who deserves to be in this test side also with Ojha and Ashwin, the pick from the bowler

Posted by mukesh_LOVE.cricket on (November 27, 2012, 19:04 GMT)

its high time we rebuild this Indian test team , for a start sachin , dhoni and sehwag , harbhajan HAS TO GO ,its that simple really ,bring in a opener who can survive the new ball , karthik as wicket keeper & rohit sharma for tendulkar, he will not do any worse than sachin in current form and is promising in the long term.. also gambhir can be the test captainand may be give duncan fletcher a more active role in team selection tactics and policies

Posted by Dravid_Pujara_Gravitas on (November 27, 2012, 18:18 GMT)

Where's the consummate professional in Dravid here? I must say, I'm very disappointed in Dravid for talking through his heart and not being able to see the obvious - Statchin is scratching around for pincodes. What an eye-sore he has become! What utter drivel from my idol! This is extremely disheartening to see a cerebral cricketer like Dravid getting emotional. Shame!

Posted by JasonWoodsworth on (November 27, 2012, 18:13 GMT)

never really understood why indians go berserk over this player. he has never been someone, you could rely on to win you matches during key situations. he has failed so many times but everything is forgotten when he scores runs against lower ranked teams. i always rated dravid higher than tendulker. carry on with the good form kp, cook and swan. even if the indian side gets a flat pitch in kolkata, england will still end up wining.

Posted by cricketsage on (November 27, 2012, 18:09 GMT)

I can recall only one game (a ODI at that) where batting second, Sachin won the game for India. His record in helping his team win or more appropriately, save a Test, is dismal.

Posted by bumsonseats on (November 27, 2012, 18:08 GMT)

im not sure he batted long enough in the game to say was looking better. mind what do i know if RD says it then it must be true. more importantly though whens his 40th birthday maybe he wants his career to include full decades before he think of ending. wait on a minute you don't think he thinking of going on till 50. im joking ain't i

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 18:07 GMT)

You all guys are making me laugh out here.. Sachin still has in him to score 5-6 hundreds in both forms of the game.. Look at Jayasurya.. He played till he was 43 and scored 100's when he was 39 and 40..

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:56 GMT)

To all indian fans. please don't criticize your players too much. one day you say them god, and at the same day you throw them into dust. try to encourage them, what have you got so far from them.sehwag just made a century, and people still criticizing him. will he make century at every innings please?. and about sachin, please leave him alone, so that other teams can get a free wicket. but i am sure, he will come back. be patient with him. please try to realize you are not too bad at home. you can win , if you play well. just accept, you are not good enough to win any match at aus-eng-saf and you are also not good enough to win every match at your own backyard.

Posted by SamRoy on (November 27, 2012, 17:55 GMT)

Now SRT please get everyone to sing praises for you now that your greatest ally (Gavaskar) has started to question your place in the team.

Posted by seantells on (November 27, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

this is just a emotional based comment from dravid no indication of professionalism there

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:46 GMT)

Yet to see that match-saving second innings from Sachin. If Duplessis can, Sachin could have too in the 2nd test. But the real problem is after 2011 wc India have been losing everything in sight. It is alarming and no one seems to take any serious measures. India only won the 4 ODIs in SL but after 2011 wc and an ok outing in WI, they lost to England, Aus and did not dominate the kiwis in India. They lost in bdesh and also the wt20. I think they will lose this series to Eng. which might be good in a way.

Posted by AlexPalmer90 on (November 27, 2012, 17:41 GMT)

Bring it on. I want Sachin to be part of the Indian side when we beat you blokes in this series, just like 4-0 previously. Indian fans are known to be delusion, so it will be fun to bring you guys back down to earth :)

Posted by GlobalCricketLover on (November 27, 2012, 17:36 GMT)

@Sreeram Krishnamoorthy, ya he deserves a good send off but he blew that chance by not retiring when we was still going good.. or at least after 2011 WC.. His time is up, just as Ponting's is. I am sure Sachin wont dare to tour SA given how he is strugglingto buy a run even in the flat beds of India. They will have him for b'fast in SA. So either he wil have 'fitness' as an excuse or retire before that tour. Even if he makes some runs in the next two tests people will remember his poor performances in the last 10 innings and how he couldn't stop his stumps from flying (even against NZ). Not taking away any credit to what he has done to Indian cricket, but he just couldn't hold the temptation to hang on when he should have let it go.

Posted by IbrahimKhan2012 on (November 27, 2012, 17:32 GMT)

Retire from test cricket and solely focus on ODI and the IPL. Test cricket requires stamina and excellent physical conditioning, which at the age of 39 is a tough ask. I wonder if Sachin plans to take part in the 2015 World cup!! Hope so.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:27 GMT)

I think persisting with Tendulker at this stage of his career seems more like a emotional decision, than practical. In the subcontinent (India, Pakistan, SL etc), such practices are the norm. Anyway, no individual is bigger than the game and at some point, all great players have to call it a day. I wish Tendulker all the best and hope he does well. Good luck.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:24 GMT)

Well, India needs Sachin to retire more than ever!! And Dhoni and Sehwag to start counting...Dhoni hasn't shown any performance recently with the bat and is in a poor form in keeping also. Sehwag is so lazy, his casual attitude can be so contagious, it can kill killer instinct in others also. Dhoni - when England should have been made to struggle for at least 2-3 overs to get off the mark, he let them off the hook on the very first ball with a gift of 4 byes. Sehwag - his body language is so poor that he stands straight instead of standing in a bent position, keeps his palms at waist level instead of ground level and is sleeping in the field instead of expecting catching opportunities. There were so many opportunities that did not even look like dropped catches because he never attempted them!! This attitude can rub on others and dilute the will to win and this negative effect far outweighs his occasional contributions with the bat.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:15 GMT)

I read somewhere that Suresh Raina might have been dropped from test squad as a punishment for playing a lofted drive against New Zeland and losing his wicket. Sachin played a similar shot at Ahmedabad and got out at a crucial time, yet people try to justify him. Sachin is great but Raina is???

Posted by Satyam_max on (November 27, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

I wish Sachin all the best for the upcoming test matches . And also I appeal to all not to hit the panic button immediately . It was just a test match for India which did not go well. That does not mean that the team has become ordinary overnight ! As Dravid rightly mentioned , this Mumbai test match is a timely wake up call for the team . Have faith ... India will bounce back !

I only wish they include a leg spinner ...maybe Rahul Sharma with his fastish leg breaks can be a handful ....

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:13 GMT)

I like Rahul but with all due respect Sachin has to retire...he is way past his time

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 17:08 GMT)

there are no signs that sachin will fire in the next couple of games. He looks awful at the crease. Selectors should drop him if If India are to make a comeback in the series. he should be dropped in the interest of the team. Past performances do not matter.

Posted by 402_Navata_Complex on (November 27, 2012, 17:00 GMT)

Honestly speaking, I think Sachin is embarrassing himself in every game. He is no longer standing in the slips, not bowling, and not batting like he used to. In addition, he is being dispatched to fielding near the boundary line, so he is not even getting a chance to contribute to MSD's strategy. He reminds me of Kapil Dev - another Indian Legend during the fag end of his career - when every batsmen started playing his bowling with ease and began thrashing him to all areas of the park. In the end, Kapil was even "dropped" from the test squad. Hope Tendulkar learns from this, and does not embarrass himself further.

Posted by drnaveed on (November 27, 2012, 16:56 GMT)

no player is going to stay in the team for ever, and this goes for the little master also. no doubt , he was a champion batsman, a great entertainer, and infact, one doesn't have words to speak about his greatness in the game, gives more than 100 percent efforts on the field.he is a thorough gentleman .yes, he deserves a graceful send off, but , it is he who should decide and inform the bcci about his decision.i think, he should leave the game at his peak time rather than after recurrent failures.

Posted by Kirk_Levin on (November 27, 2012, 16:53 GMT)

Most overrated player in Modern Cricket. Never performed when it mattered or did well on non-flat wickets. Only capable of playing at home against minnows on concrete like pitches. Kallis, Clarke etc more reliable than this fellow.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 16:50 GMT)

Sachin should retire now, and should give chance to new people, INDIA may need a senior batsmen for the Team sake, but VIRU and gambhir can handle that, SACHIN should retire like what LAXMAN did. GIVE chance to the juniors

Posted by InnocentGuy on (November 27, 2012, 16:46 GMT)

Is that what we are going for now? "A couple of straight drives"? With all due respect to Sachin, despite being a huge fan of him, I think he's long past his due. I think he is in denial. It is true that as long as a player can perform, age shouldn't be an issue at all. But fact of the matter is, he hasn't been performing. Even if he does score a century or two in the next 2 games, would it be fair to lock down a spot just because you are a star and you only perform once every 10 games? Shouldn't you have to constantly earn your place in the team? Playing for the country is a privilege that has to be earned and you only get to be in the team based on how good you are at the moment and not how awesome you were in the past.

Posted by Dhanvanth on (November 27, 2012, 16:33 GMT)

rahul's comment on sachin is utter flattery! He clearly has to rethink wat he had said! Sachin's contribution in this test has been nothing but NIL. he is there in the team just for pride thats all. Its a waste having him in the squad. The sad thing abt India is that great ppl have all the backing they want!

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 16:30 GMT)

Dravid was a great player,but I dont accept him supporting Sachin. One ball spun, one straightened is all not answers in international cricket. Sachin has caught up with age. He should retire immediately or BCCI should drop him. Importance should be given to team not for individuals. Rahane should be included in next test. BCCI are such cowards they dont have guts to drop a player under performing for many tests in a row now.

Posted by counterpoint87 on (November 27, 2012, 16:28 GMT)

if india lose this series, dravid will say "who better than sachin to rebuild the team from scratch"

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 16:24 GMT)

Being a devotee of Sachin, I'm desperate to see Sachin's couple of big knocks (80+), before he actually calls it a day.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 16:23 GMT)

Yes, I agree with Dravid about Sachin, Mainly team is facing problem with middle order with lack of Experience.Finally Dhoni has to agree losing & winning doesn't depend on green or spin pitches Its all about Team performance & how the captain maintains unity,Team performance decreasing after WC, BCCI should focus on this.In my view Gambhir, Yuvraj should be dropped from test squad, Gambhir out of form and playing selfish cricket and Yuvraj, excluding his fitness he is not a good one against spin particularly in spin pitches, Dhoni has to give a chance to Rahanne.

Posted by   on (November 27, 2012, 16:16 GMT)

I wish Sachin rock the next two test and gracefully retire. He has done so many things for indian cricket and feel bad when people talk bad. I agree past performance doesn't give ticket for somebody to pile on without performing but this genius deserve a graceful send off.

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