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Tredwell to join England squad

George Dobell

November 28, 2012

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James Tredwell lured JP Duminy out of his ground, England v South Africa, 4th ODI, Lord's, September 2, 2012
James Tredwell has performed well for England in recent ODIs © PA Photos
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James Trewell, the Kent offspinner, will fly out to India and join up with the England Test squad on December 1.

The 30-year-old Tredwell, who was appointed captain of Kent earlier this month, was not selected as part of the England Performance Programme - who are currently in India playing their first match on tour - but he will join the Test squad as back-up for the first choice spinners, Monty Panesar and Graeme Swann.

With England now committed to playing two spinners in the remaining two Tests in the series, the team management decided it was wise to ensure there was cover for illness or injury.

"Tredwell has performed really well for us," Andy Flower, England's team director said. "He can make a real impact as a spin bowler. He is arriving in Kolkata as cover. We have some spinners with the performance programme but Tredwell is our senior spinner and will stay with us for the Tests."

Tredwell has only represented England in one Test, but he made a favourable impression in it - claiming six wickets in the match as England defeated Bangladesh in Dhaka in 2010 - and has continued to perform decently as a fringe member of the ODI side.

He took 4 for 48 in England's crucial victory over West Indies at the 2011 World Cup and last summer took 3 for 35 at Lord's, doing the majority of the damage in victory over South Africa.

The strength of his recent ODI performances saw him named as England's premier spinner for the T20 and ODI series against India either side of Christmas. Swann has been rested from both series.

England do have the option of calling on left-arm spinner Simon Kerrigan, legspinner Scott Borthwick or offspinner Azeem Rafiq, all of whom are currently in Mumbai as part of the England Performance Programme. But none have the experience of Tredwell.

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Posted by Whatsgoinoffoutthere on (December 1, 2012, 16:14 GMT)

@blenheimfs - one of the other issues is that Tredwell plays for Kent and when I think Kent I don't think rank turners or big totals (especially last season). Darren Stevens' medium pace got more overs than Tredwell in 2012 (although getting that many overs out of Charlie Shreck without landing him in intensive care must be a record).

I reckon they like the look of Tredwell's three first-class centuries and batting average in the mid 20s as well as the bowling (although he doesn't have much to show in limited overs games). He's a good, safe player to use until one of the youngsters looks ready.

Posted by CamS71 on (November 30, 2012, 18:31 GMT)

@ Lmaotsetung - spot on. Furthermore Tredwell is a very solid pro who won't mind largely just hanging around. Better to keep the youngsters going as planned.

Posted by SDHM on (November 30, 2012, 17:59 GMT)

@CricketingStargazer - Rashid is only 24. It's hardly as if he's wasted his talent, I'd argue he's still got plenty of time to develop. Anyway, England have to blame themselves for his stagnation - they took him on tour for two consecutive winters and he did nothing but carry the drinks, what did they think was going to happen? With Borthwick, I'd give him time - he may have rolled over a weak batting line-up in the second innings of the EPP game, but he was also spanked around at 5 an over in the first and only picked up 1 wicket, compared to Kerrigan's 4. Leg-spin is a difficult art - don't rush them and risk harming them before their career has barely started.

Posted by bumsonseats on (November 30, 2012, 16:02 GMT)

would not worry for him to be selected as 3rd spinner. i would put englands 3 up against any 3 from india. now that would be good. win the toss bat play 3 spinners after only playing 1 in the 1st test .its about time the asian block maybe got abit of their own back by preparing 4th day track for 1st day tests.so if its a spinning track play3.

Posted by Munkeymomo on (November 30, 2012, 11:10 GMT)

@landl47: I agree with SamuelH, Briggs is not the best, doesn't turn the ball or bowl with flight. In 2020s/ODIs yeah sure he is a better bowler than Rafiq, Kerrigan and Borthwick, but in FC cricket... not a chance. Tredwell probably won't even get a game, but, if he does, I'm sure he'll do well.

Posted by roflrofl60 on (November 30, 2012, 0:58 GMT)

No! No! No! Give him some young spinner the chance to train and watch Swann and Monty. Bringing back the old fish is not the future. Let's bring back Shah and Solanki while we're at it then. Briggs, Kerrigan and the rest are the future. They're young they will make mistakes but dear god, give them a chance to bowl!

Posted by bleedingice on (November 29, 2012, 22:35 GMT)

Good move, but i would also bring in briggs, perfect conditions to try out some spinners

Posted by Herbet on (November 29, 2012, 21:00 GMT)

People are making it sound like England have brought John Emburey back. Tredwell his 30, hardly old, and about prime for a spinner.

Posted by JG2704 on (November 29, 2012, 20:12 GMT)

Good move I'd say. There are arguments for Kerrigan for sure but maybe he is still a little raw. Tredwell - in shorter formats - seems to come in and do a decent job every time but rarely gets any praise. He could probably have done a good job in the T20 WC. If pitches remain similar I'd love to see them play him alongside Monty and Swann whether it be part of a 3 man or 4 man attack. I seem to remember a certain veteran spinner doing well on a tour to India not so long ago and as it has already been pointed out Swann came on later in his career.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 18:53 GMT)

Indian's T20 Squad should be very different and give chance to young players my pick would be 1.Shikar Dhawan 2.Rahane 3.Robin Uthappa 4.Kohli(capt) 5.Manoj Tiwari 6.Dinesh Karthik(WK) 7.Jadeja 8.Ashwin 9.RP singh 10.Varun Aaron 11.umesh yadav/Dinda

12.Ashok Meneria 13.Unmukt chand 14.rahul Sharma 15.Ishant Sharma

Posted by blenheimfs on (November 29, 2012, 18:53 GMT)

I think the decision to bring Tredwell into the England party is correct. He's the obvious replacement for Swann but largely because the off-spinning cupboard is so bare. Tredwell's performances in the County Championship over the past 5 years have been particularly moderate and it is 4 day cricket that is the most reliable yardstick for Test Match Cricket. 2008 - 24 wickets @ 51.00 each 2009 - 69 wickets @ 26.36 each 2010 - 37 wickets @ 29.67 each 2011 - 42 wickets @ 27.97 each 2012 - 19 wickets at 39.57 each

With the exception of 2009, by and large, he's been disappointing in domestic cricket and has generally been at his best on the one day stuff. However, spinners are at their best later in their career than other bowlers and, as he's in simply as cover for Swann, I wouldn't worry too much. If he gets to play, he won't let them down in the field either as he's a good slip catcher too.

Posted by 2.14istherunrate on (November 29, 2012, 17:23 GMT)

I do not see England playing 3 spinners without it being a leggie-Borthwick took 6 wkts today to raise the interest. I think if your spinners take 19 as a pair, unless they are feeling it too much then they can repeat it and in all probability would rather like to. Though Broad did less than nothing except get posted about, England would rather the second seamer- Finn in all probability, though I would consider the skiddier Meaker. I am not sure of the use of bounce here by quicks. Patel may go but surely they will play a batsmen and auxiliary spin can be provided by KP who is not the worst.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 29, 2012, 16:25 GMT)

Scott Borthwick has just added another name to the list of candidates for the Test team by rolling over the Academy side for 87 in taking 6-38 today. Some of these players will never fulfill their promise (think of Adil Rashid), but suddenly spin bowling options for the future are appearing when, even 3 years ago there appeared to be none at all.

Posted by boycottsmum on (November 29, 2012, 16:04 GMT)

I just wonder if England would unleash 3 frontline spinners - with Tredwell in place of Samit - in Eden Gardens, that would be interesting, considering how the Indians struggled against Swanny and Monty in Mumbai.

Posted by   on (November 29, 2012, 15:21 GMT)

With him, you selectors Tried-Well in the past. He also Trode-Well. Yet, Tredwell now? When other younger ones are being tried well in the Performance Programme?Is that the best way to stride well into the future? Is that, what you guys are saying; Erebus26 & landl47 ?

Posted by SDHM on (November 29, 2012, 11:18 GMT)

Overall, Nutcutlet makes an excellent point - the reason the young spinners are out with the EPP is to learn & hone their skills in conditions they've not experienced in order to further their development as future England stars, not to provide cover for the Test team. I'd be much more comfortable if Swann picked up an injury seeing Tredwell, as opposed to Kerrigan or Rafiq, stepping in. He's an under-rated bowler for me; bowls with good flight, loop & changes of pace, & he doesn't mind batsmen coming after him, in fact he relishes the challenge. He would have been a useful bowler on the wicket in Ahmedabad more so than the Mumbai one due to his slowness through the air, so it's something to think about at least if England come across a similar one in Kolkata or Nagpur.

Posted by SDHM on (November 29, 2012, 11:12 GMT)

landl47 - can't agree with your point about Briggs - he's clearly a bowler who's learned to bowl in limited overs cricket and it shows; negatives lines, no real flight & loop, not much spin. That Hampshire barely played him in the Championship this season, although partly down to the weather, tells you that they don't think he's a first class bowler, at least not yet - there is plenty of time for him to learn & develop. Compare him to Kerrigan, who Lancashire have shielded from 40 over & 20 over cricket, & it's almost chalk & cheese. I do agree with you & Nutcutlet about Tredwell though - the obvious choice to replace Swann if there's an injury (a possibility with his elbow like it is); solid, experienced & a canny operator. The likes of Borthwick & Rafiq most certainly aren't ready for Tests (Rafiq is another who is a better LO bowler at the moment) & to chuck them into a crunch game would be madness. Kerrigan is the closest of the 3, but I'm happy with Tredwell coming in over him.

Posted by CricketingStargazer on (November 29, 2012, 11:06 GMT)

@Nutcutlet, my thoughts entirely. My first instinct was to ask why Simon Kerrigan wasn't called up. My second was to realise that if you have Monty or Graeme Swann going lame on the morning of a match you need someone dependable who can step in at a moment's notice. Better that Kerrigan stays with the performance squad getting experience than taking a punt on him in an emergency in a Test and having him spending most of his time kicking his heels in the nets with no action in the middle. Tredwell is no Jim Laker, but he won't let anyone down either.

Posted by landl47 on (November 29, 2012, 5:57 GMT)

Tredwell's a good reliable choice as cover. He's not the future of England's spin attack, but the lads in the performance squad are still very raw and need more experience before being thrown into the test arena. Actually, of the young spinners, the best is Danny Briggs, who isn't even on the Performance Squad Tour. Tredwell likely won't play, but if necessary he can be drafted in and he won't let England down.

Posted by Nutcutlet on (November 29, 2012, 5:07 GMT)

Erebus26: I see your point, but I think that Tredwell, who - as you say - has a lot of experience is the finished article & could step straight into the Test side should Swann (or less likely, Panesar) not be fit for the 3rd & 4th Tests. Swann esp. has got through a huge amount of work in two matches carrying a chronic condition to do with floating bone in his elbow & I'm surprised that he's stayed fit & bowled exceptionally well thus far. Tredwell is the obvious cover for Swann. This is just not the time to introduce a rookie, no matter how promising. Tredwell is actually ahead of Kerrigan in the pecking order anyway. Perf. Prog. players are youngsters about whom more needs to be known - it's not that that they have been passed over & not one of those spinners would expect to step ahead of a battle-hardened pro like JT, so there would be no resentment/loss of confidence whatsoever. Kerrigan's time will come soon enough, but he's much more likely to replace Monty for obvious reasons.BW

Posted by SamRoy on (November 29, 2012, 2:33 GMT)

Tredwell is a fine off-spinner from the limited over matches I have seen him bowl in.

Posted by Lmaotsetung on (November 29, 2012, 1:38 GMT)

@ Erebus26 - Look how long it took for Swanny to be the player he is today. Same can be said of Monty. Eng don't need to rush the youngsters atm and they have a lot to learn before reaching international caliber.

Posted by aniketabhima on (November 28, 2012, 23:18 GMT)

How he single-handedly won that West Indies game in the 2011 WC I can never forget.

Posted by Erebus26 on (November 28, 2012, 22:19 GMT)

I understand that Tredwell has a lot of experience but it doesn't say a lot for the lads who are participating in the England Performance Programme. Are these young spinners not worth the pick? Kerrigan seems quite a handy slow left-armer and picked up four wickets in a recent game. Why not give him a go? It just seems counter-productive to go and pick somebody like Tredwell over the heads of these young lads as it may lead to a loss of confidence and resentment amongst the latter.

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